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acheronukdon't recall testing them. maybe the main (official) ubuntu does00:01
valorieI think some people test them sometimes00:02
valoriebut in general if they boot and can be successfully installed, not much changes until closer to the alpha00:03
gsilvaptI see. Back to packaging then :) 00:03
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gsilvaptRegardind kstars, one issue is that the software b-d requires a higher version number than what exists and there's a patch in VCS but not llisted in VCS. These are both upstream fixes right? 00:17
gsilvaptThe version number of libindi-dev should be properly written maybe. And the patch might have been deleted 00:18
acheronukincreasing the libindi depends version to 1.4 would cause kstars to fail to build at the moment, and as it's only optional don't really want to do that. it will fix itself if/whe we get a new libindi into artful00:23
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acheronukclivejo: why was the stars patch disabled?00:26
gsilvaptWell, increase the version number would fail because the think doesn't exist yet :) 00:31
gsilvaptThe patch I worked on was on dolphin, not kstars, so I have no clue about that00:32
gsilvaptI thiink I'll migrate to pbuild for good. God dammit, sbuild is always troublesome installing00:32
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acheronukeek! 1:40 am here00:39
acheronukGoodnight all I think :)00:39
gsilvaptGood night 00:40
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lordievaderGood morning07:35
acheronukmorning07:49
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gsilvaptHello all o/ 12:18
santa_good morning/afternoon everyone12:27
santa_acheronuk: ping?12:27
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> pong?12:29
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> akonadi?12:29
santa_not yet12:29
IrcsomeBot* acheronuk got sidetracked12:29
santa_I would like in the first place to move frameworks 5.35 to the regular backports ppa12:30
santa_right now landing also provides krita12:30
santa_do you mind if I copy -landing to the regular backports ppa including krita?12:30
acheronukand plasma 5.10.2 in there as well12:31
acheronukfor xesty12:31
acheronuk*zesty12:31
santa_yes, may I copy everything then?12:31
acheronukkrita is a bugfix on what is already in there, so seems ok to me12:32
santa_I'm using -landing on my laptop for the record12:32
santa_zesty with -landing I mean12:32
santa_acheronuk: so, proceed (y/n)?12:33
acheronukyeah, so you have test the plasma update somewhat then12:33
acheronukI would say so12:33
santa_copying then. we can always fix issues later if we find any 12:34
acheronukTo be honest, I was wondering whether to ping you and ask if it worked ok for you, then copy this weekend. so you more or less just beat me to it12:34
acheronukif there are no anguished screams of breakage on forums and social media, I'll do a website post later12:35
santa_I'm going to copy frameworks 5.35 for xenial too (which was already tested, by me and got positive feedback from mparillo)12:37
acheronuksanta_: yes. there is additional stuff in landing for xenial. apps like konversation, krita again, krusader, kdevelop 12:39
acheronukfrom brief testing I *think* they are ok12:39
santa_ok12:40
gsilvaptI can help testing (I think) if needed :+1:12:40
acheronukI just built digikam 5.5 for xenial in staging-misc, but may want to test that and maybe wait for digikam 5.6. the release of which is imminent, as was tagged in git a few days ago12:41
acheronukgsilvapt: thank you. this is copying stuff in the backports-landing PPA to backport PPA for both Zesty and Xenial. If you have an install or VM of those, testing would be great12:42
gsilvaptWhat can we do regarding those packages that are now failing because we changed b-d and they do not exist in previous releases? kajongg, kmag, kstars for instance12:43
gsilvaptI have space for a VM, yes. I can install, test and uninstall if needed. However, I might need some guidance as I never did any testing12:43
acheronukfaling where? yellow is not a 'fail'12:43
gsilvaptDepends which one you're looking at. kajongg only has yellow warnings but kstars is actually failing because the b-d does not exist in Xenial. 12:44
gsilvaptActually it's the other way around12:45
acheronukLink to the 'failure' please?12:45
gsilvapt1 second, I'm trying to find them12:46
gsilvaptkmag has a different b-d in xenial: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/324314065/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kmag_4%3A17.04.2+p16.04+git20170616.2252-0_BUILDING.txt.gz12:48
gsilvaptWe discussed this last night. I was told the package had a different name for previous releases and thus it can't find the package in previous releases other than artful12:49
gsilvaptNow I'm looking at kajongg because there's clearly missing a dependency. Not sure if it exists in xenial or if I missed it12:49
acheronukoh. unstable kajongg needs a new twisted only found in artful. not going to mess with backporting that for now12:49
gsilvaptExactly, that's my problem. most of the game packages I've helped porting have packages that either do not exist in previous builds or had different names before. 12:50
gsilvaptbackporting may be hard but there's no way to figure out the name of the packages (AFAIK)12:50
acheronukmost exist. and can be found from cmakelists or the build output and a bit of detectivework12:51
clivejogsilvapt: want to refresh the patches for kstars?12:56
acheronukclivejo: looking at it, I think it may need a bit more than a 'refesh'. but no harm looking12:57
acheronukkmag is oddly still looking for some Qt4. weird12:57
santa_have you guys already fixed the thing with my dolphin patch?12:58
clivejoI "think" I just disabled them to get it to build12:58
clivejofixed the thing?12:58
santa_it was failing to apply in unstable because I got an upstream patch to fix a test12:59
clivejoyeah, I removed the patch12:59
clivejoin _unstable12:59
santa_thanks13:00
acheronuksanta_: your fuzzy compare patch for kstars??13:00
santa_?13:01
acheronukwould you mind taking a look to see if it is still relevant in unstable?13:01
clivejohow are apps 17.04.2 coming along?13:01
santa_I fixed ~4 autopkgtrollings yesterday13:02
acheronuksanta_: they made some changes to those lines I'm not 100% sure equivalent changes can be substituted in or are needed13:02
clivejoacheronuk: did you look at the seed after those new packages made it it?13:02
acheronukclivejo: they should already be in there from when I last updated the seed from a clone all13:03
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acheronukclivejo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.artful/revision/136013:04
acheronukthat commit, when it was apps 16.12 in git13:05
clivejocan we put that link on qa.kubuntu?13:05
acheronukcan put what we like on there if it's useful13:05
clivejobe useful to me, as I can never find that link!13:06
acheronukFirefox remembers for me....13:06
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blazeff is not for remembering links13:23
blazebut for constant segfauts and crashes :p13:24
acheronukfor me it does both13:24
acheronuksometimes.....13:24
acheronukgsilvapt: xenial seems to have an old version of libqaccessibilityclient which I think is too old and not pulling in some of the legacy qt4 depends that kmag seems to oddly need13:27
acheronukgoing to try building the zesty version for KCI build to test13:27
gsilvaptSorry, I was having lunch. I take care of that later, if that's okay. i only need to run quilt refresh in kstars?13:36
gsilvaptsanta_, I've made a merge request recently that should fix that. I'm not 100% certain it is done properly but... 13:36
acheronukquilt refresh won't do it, as the code to patch has changed. not just the it's context13:43
santa_I need to leave for a wile, I'll be back13:49
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BluesKajHi all15:19
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie I assume no meeting? I forgot again :/16:21
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Sorry wasn't at my computer16:41
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> might have to think of alternate times if we want to carry them on16:48
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> If there good weather I can't make it16:59
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie, you should be fine to be there for most of a UK summer then17:00
IrcsomeBot<CliffordTheBigRedDoggie> Lovely day today17:01
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> yep. nice cold beer is going down well17:02
gsilvaptTo "update" the patch issues in kstars (https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kstars/517/parsed_console/) should I remove the patch inside debian/patches? 17:34
gsilvaptIt was left out of VCS before17:34
gsilvaptRegarding the other package, the requirement is actually superior to what currently exists, even in artful. Should we ignore it for the time being?17:34
gsilvaptMy suggestion is we should keep the patch (in case it becomes useful anytime in the future) and propose a patch upstream to set the version number right of INDI package.17:41
[Relic]Hate to interrupt, but is there anyway to make a live usb boot very slowly (item by item?) so I can see where it is causing a kernel panic lock up (happens on 3 different usb drives)?17:44
acheronukgsilvapt: leave the patch for now. we can properly review whether to update it or ditch it. we have months to do that on the versions unstable branch is tracking17:53
gsilvaptok acheronuk, thanks! 18:02
gsilvaptAnyone  here uses sbuild? i'm having the same error in all packages and, as far as I remember, this is a configuration error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24882700/18:05
acheronukgsilvapt: on libindi we just need to update or wait for debian to update the libindi version in the archives. 18:05
gsilvaptBut I can't remember what it is and I've done the installation guide twice....18:06
gsilvaptHum, I see. I forgot to check upstream if the package has a higher version number 18:06
gsilvapt7back18:06
acheronukhttp://indilib.org/download/source.html18:07
acheronuk1.4.118:07
acheronuktried building that the other day, but there were issues with missing symbols compared to 1.2 so would need to see what debian (or pre-empt them) do on any library version bump18:09
gsilvaptspeaking of symbols, I need to read about those 18:10
acheronukso since it's only a non-essential optional build depend for kstars, just waiting to see for now18:10
gsilvaptokay, thanks for the tip!18:11
gsilvaptSorry for asking so many things but I just have to ask what's all this to understand what is going on and what can I do :) 18:12
acheronukgsilvapt: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/02/22/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t14:5518:14
acheronukon symbols ^^^18:15
gsilvaptOh, cool! A guide on this. Thank you, super useful!18:20
gsilvaptWow, this is a tad complex 18:28
acheronukYes, it takes the best of us some time to get our heads round that!18:30
gsilvaptThis is also an extensive walkthrough. I'd benefit from one of these as it is a hands-on experience.18:32
santa_acheronuk, clivejo: https://phabricator.kde.org/T6358 I'm not going to do it yet, since I'm working on apps and the Qt transition which is more urgent. feel free to do it or mentor someone else to do it before I have time for that19:37
santa_gsilvapt: the symbols files are with huge difference the most complex task you would have to deal wrt kde packaging19:38
acheronuksanta_: ack. it's not urgent19:42
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santa_acheronuk: regarding the akonadi fixing, if possible I will do that tomorrow, if so it's ok if I give you the dsc to upload the package? (I would handle the thing in git) and after that we could work with the release team to unblock the rest of kdepim19:45
acheronuksanta_: whichever is easiest for you19:46
santa_ack19:46
santa_regarding the qt transition, as you know I'm doing some test rebuilds to assess the thing. so far kdeframeworks is much better than expected only a couple of possible issues19:47
santa_in addition to the packages which may need some small adjustments (which we will do), this is imho what we should do in the kde packaging scope before artful gets qt 5.919:49
santa_1. get the current stuff in -proposed out of proposed19:49
santa_2. upload kde applications 17.04.2 (if that's possible to do in time)19:50
santa_note that 17.04.2 will need some binary-only new reviews19:52
santa_so probably we will have to that after qt 5.9 lands in artful19:52
santa_and this means that, unfortunately we may need to do some small fixes here and there for apps 16.12, which is not cool, but if there's no other way...19:53
santa_so to sum up I think the 1. is a "must have" and the 2. a "nice to have but only if it's feasible"19:54
santa_tsimonq2: ↑19:54
acheronuksanta_: all sounds reasonable20:22
tsimonq2santa_: Well my goal is to get Qt in and out of proposed ASAP20:43
tsimonq2santa_: I'd rather not have it stuck in there like glue for a month :/20:43
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> it's traditional. new Qt sets up semi-permanent residence in -proposed20:53
tsimonq2I'd like to prevent that now that we're shoving Unity 8 out the doot20:56
tsimonq2*door20:56
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mKQ4P7RF/Screenshot_20170617_170253.png21:03
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Unity8 is still alive btw21:03
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @ahoneybun, ??21:04
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> no idea how that keeps happening21:04
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> latte?21:05
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> yepp21:05
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> looks ok21:05
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> it's super small lol21:05
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> oh. I usually make panels and docks quite small, so it did not look odd to me21:06
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> you could do everything with latte and remove all other panels really21:06
santa_tsimonq2: I want the same thing, so I'm trying to figure things out to make that hapen21:07
santa_the same thing = get qt 5.9 into artful as soon as we can21:07
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> yes, if it going in, sooner = better21:08
santa_https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/qt-5-9-transition/21:08
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> within reason21:08
tsimonq2@ahoneybun: It's getting removed from the archive. If it ever comes back, it'll be in a different name and it'll be in Universe.21:13
tsimonq2santa_: Wonderful. Let's accomplish that. :)21:13
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> right21:13
tsimonq2santa_: Also, if you want me to get anything in the PPA (because mitya57 just has to press a button and it's all copied to proposed) that fixes a lot of the KDE * stack (that's broken after the Qt update), let me know.21:14
tsimonq2santa_: Just upload it to a PPA and I think we'll be able to just review it.21:15
tsimonq2santa_: But as long as you know that it's a possibility... :)21:15
tsimonq2Same goes for anyone else with Ninja or Developer status21:16
tsimonq2If Qt 5.9.0 breaks something and you have a fix, ping21:16
santa_tsimonq2: sure. wrt test rebuilds frameworks for i386 is about to finish so I'm going to schedule plasma/amd64 tonight, we will have the results in the morning, then I will continue with plasma/i386 tomorrow21:17
santa_inb4 my night and my morning, it's 23:17 here21:17
acheronukmparillo: ping?21:25
acheronukhttp://kubuntu.org/news/latest-round-of-backports-ppa-updates-include-plasma-5-10-2-for-zesty-17-04/21:25
mparilloPong?21:28
mparilloacheronuk: Good time to spread the good news?21:29
acheronukmparillo: It is :)21:31
mparilloNow which VM and which incognito browser did I use to insulate myself from facebook?21:38
tsimonq2santa_: ack :)21:44
tsimonq2acheronuk: Wow, that was a fast turnaround time for backports! Keep up the good work :)21:48
tsimonq2santa_, clivejo ^21:48
clivejohuh?21:48
tsimonq2clivejo: http://kubuntu.org/news/latest-round-of-backports-ppa-updates-include-plasma-5-10-2-for-zesty-17-04/21:49
clivejoI know, I'm getting pinged about that left, right and center21:51
tsimonq2acheronuk, santa_, clivejo: Ping, can one of y'all please join #debian-cd on OFTC and help test Stretch KDE images? They're having some errors when booting and I'm not sure how to begin diagnosing some of these things.22:14
tsimonq2And anyone else who is good at diagnosing Plasma things ^^^22:16
tsimonq2@acheronuk, @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie ^^^^22:17
DarinMillerHey all o/22:52
clivejohi DarinMiller22:54
clivejowhere you been?22:54
DarinMillerFYI for anyone using apt-cacher NG that also want to use wine staging.  Ensure to edit (or create) /etc/apt/apt.conf and add:Acquire::HTTP::Proxy::dl.winehq.org "DIRECT"; 22:54
DarinMillerI have not been far.  I mostly have been on in late evening when everyone else is in bed.22:56
clivejoawwww22:57
clivejostupid time zones22:57
DarinMilleryes,  big spinning rock we live on, hard to stay in sync with everyone.22:58

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