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| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers! | 06:01 |
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| jamesh | Hi oSoMoN | 06:05 |
| oSoMoN | hey jamesh | 06:10 |
| didrocks | good morning | 06:19 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:19 |
| === maclin1 is now known as maclin | ||
| jibel | morning | 06:29 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN, salut jibel | 06:32 |
| jibel | salut didrocks, ça va? | 06:41 |
| didrocks | ça va bien, et toi ? (catchup de pas mal d'emails) | 06:55 |
| jibel | didrocks, ça va. quiet week end, I drove the kids to their grand parents place. 1 mo and half of holidays for me \o/ ;) | 06:58 |
| didrocks | ahah, enjoy and celebrate :-) | 07:00 |
| didrocks | we are at my parent's house for a couple of weeks to retrieve fresh air | 07:01 |
| didrocks | first time ever the baby sleeps for 12h in a row | 07:01 |
| jibel | it's always fresh here. 15°c and raining this morning | 07:01 |
| didrocks | not the same story in Lyon (but it seems better this week) :) | 07:06 |
| duflu | Heh, it's winter and warmer here :) | 07:16 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks, jibel | 07:17 |
| duflu | and morning oSoMoN | 07:17 |
| didrocks | hey duflu! ;) | 07:18 |
| jibel | hi duflu | 07:29 |
| Laney | how do I work this thing??????????????????? | 08:02 |
| === maclin1 is now known as maclin | ||
| didrocks | welcome back Laney! How were your holidays? | 08:04 |
| didrocks | enough to forget how to type on IRC it seems :p | 08:04 |
| didrocks | (so, sounds like excellent holidays!) | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey didrocks! | 08:08 |
| Laney | yes, they were great thanks! | 08:09 |
| Laney | walking, beach, swimming in the sea, cake, restaurants, pub | 08:09 |
| Laney | & sun | 08:09 |
| Laney | got a little bit pink in some areas on wednesday :-) | 08:10 |
| didrocks | great weather thus I guess? | 08:10 |
| Laney | was pretty good | 08:10 |
| Laney | probably 25 max | 08:10 |
| willcooke | ahoy | 08:11 |
| didrocks | winter compared to what we had here :p | 08:11 |
| Laney | so not too hot but still sunny enough to go swim in the sea | 08:11 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, had good holidays? | 08:11 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:11 |
| didrocks | yeah ;) | 08:11 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 08:11 |
| Laney | didrocks: how was your week/weekends? | 08:11 |
| Laney | hey seb128 hey willcooke! | 08:11 |
| oSoMoN | welcome back Laney | 08:11 |
| willcooke | wb Laney | 08:11 |
| Laney | seb128: yeah, not too many pings on IRC but I just saw that I have 47 emails in the work inbox | 08:11 |
| * Laney screams | 08:11 | |
| Laney | how are you? | 08:11 |
| Laney | willcooke: you good? | 08:12 |
| didrocks | Laney: really good! Got some nice progress in work in our dismantling strategy. However, quite warm/hot during the whole week (35-38°C), was hard | 08:12 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks, had a mostly relaxing w.e and a good night | 08:12 |
| Laney | hey oSoMoN, thanks, how's it going over there? | 08:12 |
| oSoMoN | good morning chrisccoulson, have you followed bug #1702407 ? there are updated packages for trusty/xenial/yakkety in https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage/+packages, I’d need you to promote them asap | 08:12 |
| ubot5 | bug 1702407 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Startup crash after upgrading to 59.0.3071.109 on trusty/xenial/yakkety" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1702407 | 08:12 |
| Laney | yeah that sucks :/ | 08:13 |
| Laney | go get a place in the forest | 08:13 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, good, been busy moving houses over the week-end (not quite done yet), and getting ready for holidays next week | 08:13 |
| didrocks | that's what we did :) | 08:13 |
| Laney | oSoMoN: ah, good luck with the move | 08:14 |
| * Laney hates moving | 08:14 | |
| Laney | meh, I expired from backporters over the last week | 08:14 |
| oSoMoN | it’s amazing how much cr^Wstuff one can pile up in a relatively small flat | 08:14 |
| Laney | launchpad isn't very holiday friendly | 08:15 |
| didrocks | why? | 08:15 |
| Laney | 5 day warning -> gone | 08:15 |
| didrocks | ah | 08:15 |
| didrocks | you got kicked from some teams? | 08:15 |
| Laney | oSoMoN: you sending stuff to the charity shop? | 08:15 |
| Laney | yeah | 08:15 |
| didrocks | I found as well the period to be really short | 08:15 |
| seb128 | hey oSoMoN | 08:16 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 08:16 |
| Laney | some old school names on the admin list https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-backporters/+members#active | 08:16 |
| didrocks | waow, indeed | 08:16 |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, congrats on the new house :-) | 08:16 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, some to charity, some to trash | 08:17 |
| oSoMoN | thanks seb128 :) | 08:17 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: the important question is: do you have the Internet in your new house already? :) | 08:17 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, I wish… I signed up for it last week, and they were supposed to call me to set it up within 48hrs, but that never happened | 08:19 |
| oSoMoN | Spain. | 08:19 |
| Laney | /o\ | 08:19 |
| didrocks | well, ISP providers + Spain, what could happen? :) | 08:19 |
| oSoMoN | I'm also going to be downgraded from fiber to ADSL, going to take a hit :/ | 08:20 |
| oSoMoN | but the new house is worth it :) | 08:20 |
| didrocks | ;) | 08:20 |
| * Laney imagines that every house in Spain comes with its own pool | 08:21 | |
| seb128 | oSoMoN, is it in the country side? | 08:21 |
| didrocks | eth45 slot in the pool? (aka the Trevinh_o way) | 08:21 |
| oSoMoN | no pool, but on the edge of a forest, it doesn't really qualify as country side as it's a 5min drive from densely populated areas but it manages to be very quiet | 08:23 |
| oSoMoN | just got a call from the phone company, they’re coming to set up my internet now \o/ | 08:30 |
| seb128 | nice | 08:33 |
| willcooke | Anyone know anything about themeing gdm? | 08:47 |
| willcooke | I'd like to have a play with it | 08:47 |
| willcooke | maybe next week while I'm sprinting I can spend a few hours tinkering | 08:47 |
| seb128 | what sort of changes do you want to do? | 08:48 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure you can theme much atm :-/ | 08:48 |
| willcooke | In other news: I tried building the help videos from "getting-started-docs". I started the rendering on Friday afternoon and by Sunday afternoon it was still going with no obvious end in sight. I'll kick something off on a canonistack instance and just leave it running | 08:49 |
| willcooke | seb128, I was thinking of changing a few colours etc. | 08:49 |
| didrocks | changing background and themes color are like any gnome session (for the gdm users) | 08:49 |
| didrocks | unsure you can move widgets and do more though without rewriting a greeter | 08:49 |
| willcooke | I had a very quick look over the weekend, and there seem to be a few downloadable themes, so I'll start with those | 08:49 |
| seb128 | k | 08:50 |
| rbasak | On upgrade I got asked what display manager I wanted, but it defaulted to lightdm. For the switch to GNOME, shouldn't the default have been gdm3? | 09:04 |
| * oSoMoN is now connected to the intertubes from his new house | 09:10 | |
| willcooke | didrocks, see rbasak's comment ^ | 09:18 |
| didrocks | rbasak: yeah, that's the goal and kenvandine[m][m] did some work there/tested it on a vm | 09:19 |
| didrocks | rbasak: so apparently, not all cases are covered. I guess having your upgrade logs would help | 09:19 |
| didrocks | normally, you get a new ubuntu-session package setting a lag | 09:19 |
| didrocks | flag* | 09:19 |
| willcooke | didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-desktop-schemas/+bug/1703326 | 09:20 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1703326 in gsettings-desktop-schemas (Ubuntu) "Lock screen wallpaper is a plain blue screen" [High,Confirmed] | 09:20 |
| didrocks | so, knowing the order things got unpack/configured would help | 09:20 |
| didrocks | willcooke: thanks! | 09:20 |
| seb128 | rbasak, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/gnome-session/ubuntu_lightdm_gdm3_transition/revision/403/debian/ubuntu-session.postinst | 09:24 |
| didrocks | I really wonder if packages are configured in the correct order. Not the first time I see complains on this since Friday | 09:25 |
| seb128 | rbasak, maybe you can file a bug and see what is going wrong in that snippet for you? | 09:25 |
| seb128 | didrocks, that postinst shouldn't be impacted by the order? | 09:26 |
| didrocks | add your apt logs including that upgrade | 09:26 |
| seb128 | it just greps accountsservice files | 09:26 |
| didrocks | seb128: does having it by default prevent the debconf prompt still? | 09:26 |
| didrocks | seb128: or could we have gdm3 configured because that ubuntu-session postinst is trigger? | 09:27 |
| seb128 | I think having default should prevent the question | 09:27 |
| didrocks | but yeah, you may be right, could not be an ordering issue but just something with the script | 09:27 |
| seb128 | I might be wrong, I didn't try to debug much | 09:28 |
| seb128 | in any case you are right, apt log is useful | 09:28 |
| didrocks | I would still like to have apt logs to ensure that one those users ubuntu-session was configured first | 09:28 |
| seb128 | rbasak, ^ can you file a bug with your upgrade log and maybe the result of the grep command from that postinst snippet? | 09:28 |
| * didrocks wonders why grep -q wasn't used instead of storing it in a variable | 09:29 | |
| didrocks | oh | 09:29 |
| didrocks | RET=`grep 'XSession=ubuntu' /var/lib/AccountsService/users/*` | 09:29 |
| didrocks | 13TRANSITION=$? | 09:29 |
| didrocks | it's wrong | 09:29 |
| didrocks | the script is set -e | 09:29 |
| didrocks | so, if you don't have ubuntu session set as a default anyway, the upgrade script fails | 09:29 |
| didrocks | (independently of the current reported issue) | 09:30 |
| seb128 | well the intend is to set default if you have "ubuntu" as a session before upgrade no? | 09:30 |
| seb128 | or what do you mean? | 09:30 |
| didrocks | you don't have ubuntu set as default | 09:30 |
| didrocks | the grep fails (exit != 0) | 09:31 |
| didrocks | the script stops | 09:31 |
| didrocks | the upgrade stops on postinst failure | 09:31 |
| Laney | it also misses #DEBHELPER# | 09:32 |
| Laney | and I would only do any of this stuff on upgrade from an old version | 09:32 |
| didrocks | yeah, it will reoccur on any upgrade | 09:33 |
| didrocks | so if you set back lightdm as default | 09:34 |
| didrocks | it will reforce you with gdm on next upgrade | 09:34 |
| Laney | ah well | 09:34 |
| Laney | that's what alphas are for! | 09:34 |
| didrocks | I can fix it after lunch, unsure that's what rbasak got though | 09:35 |
| Laney | the question was also about the default being lightdm not gdm3, maybe that's something to fix too in any case | 09:35 |
| * Laney isn't sure | 09:36 | |
| didrocks | Laney: wdym in "the default being lightdm"? | 09:36 |
| didrocks | ah | 09:36 |
| didrocks | adding that check | 09:36 |
| seb128 | we should really have peer reviews for landing such changes | 09:36 |
| didrocks | yeah | 09:36 |
| didrocks | (and yes) | 09:36 |
| didrocks | or at least pointing to the commit before uploading | 09:36 |
| Laney | I suppose it's preferring to show you the one you have chosen already | 09:37 |
| Laney | that's probably fine | 09:37 |
| Laney | oh, the MIR got approved | 09:39 |
| Laney | nice | 09:39 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's the default, a lot of cleanswap happened (but still more to do :)) | 09:39 |
| Laney | did the indicators drop off like we hoped? | 09:39 |
| didrocks | almost all | 09:40 |
| didrocks | still 2 left | 09:40 |
| didrocks | I did demote ~70 binary packages from main last week | 09:40 |
| Laney | \o/ | 09:40 |
| didrocks | hum, seb128, the commit you pointed at isn't the last revision | 09:41 |
| seb128 | oh sorry | 09:41 |
| seb128 | awesome bar fail | 09:41 |
| didrocks | it's still wrong though :p | 09:41 |
| didrocks | RET=`grep -c gdm3 $DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER_FILE || true` | 09:41 |
| didrocks | if [ $RET -gt 0 ]; then | 09:41 |
| didrocks | # Nothing to do | 09:41 |
| didrocks | exit 0; | 09:41 |
| didrocks | fi | 09:41 |
| didrocks | will always exit 0 | 09:41 |
| didrocks | so nothing to do :p | 09:41 |
| didrocks | so no transition | 09:41 |
| * didrocks wonders how that worked on a vm | 09:41 | |
| seb128 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/gnome-session/ubuntu_lightdm_gdm3_transition/view/head:/debian/ubuntu-session.postinst | 09:42 |
| Laney | if grep -qs ... ;then | 09:42 |
| Laney | that's my usual invocation | 09:42 |
| didrocks | yep | 09:42 |
| * Laney has a VM in clean pre-swap state | 09:43 | |
| * Laney tests it | 09:43 | |
| Laney | (the archive state) | 09:43 |
| didrocks | yeah, better to test | 09:44 |
| didrocks | but anyway, as you told, it should be conditioned by: lightdm as the default (our previous default) + version to only happen once | 09:44 |
| Laney | yeah I got prompted | 09:46 |
| didrocks | Laney: was ubuntu-session configured before gdm? | 09:48 |
| Laney | wait | 09:48 |
| didrocks | (just to confirm at least it's not order related) | 09:48 |
| didrocks | but really that unconditional exit 0 | 09:48 |
| Laney | hmm this is worse than I thought | 09:48 |
| didrocks | ah? | 09:48 |
| Laney | the question is asked when apt does "Preconfiguring packages" | 09:48 |
| Laney | that is before any maintainer scripts have run | 09:49 |
| didrocks | do-release-upgrade or just apt? | 09:49 |
| Laney | apt | 09:49 |
| * Laney doesn't know how that works actually | 09:49 | |
| Laney | something to do with debconf I guess | 09:49 |
| didrocks | I thought we only downloaded the debconf prompts on release upgrade via our tools | 09:50 |
| didrocks | that's maybe hooked into apt itself now… | 09:50 |
| didrocks | but ken got it working | 09:50 |
| didrocks | maybe better to wait for him on this to not reash the whole thing thus? | 09:50 |
| Laney | I think it's basically that the gdm3.config file is run in a first pass after the debs are downloaded | 09:53 |
| didrocks | yep, probably | 09:54 |
| didrocks | actually, we did the switch the other way around in 2010 | 09:54 |
| didrocks | would be interesting to just look up at how we did this at the time | 09:55 |
| * didrocks doesn't remember that far :p | 09:55 | |
| Laney | yeah let's wait for ken | 09:57 |
| willcooke | didrocks, sorry for the rubbish screenshot, but: http://imgur.com/a/24qv7 | 10:22 |
| willcooke | stupid reflective screens | 10:22 |
| didrocks | willcooke: nice tee-shirt! :) | 10:23 |
| willcooke | :D | 10:23 |
| didrocks | liking the theming as well | 10:23 |
| didrocks | maybe the selector box should be orange instead of blue? | 10:23 |
| didrocks | (or aubergine) | 10:23 |
| willcooke | It seems you have to embed the wallpaper inside the gdm compiled resource, a full path to a wallpaper on disk was not enough | 10:24 |
| willcooke | yeah, I'll tweak the colours and fonts etc if I can | 10:24 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's a gresource, so compiled | 10:24 |
| willcooke | that was just to see if it's even possible | 10:24 |
| didrocks | but shipping a theme for the gdm user makes sense | 10:24 |
| willcooke | now I know what to do I will play with it some more next week | 10:24 |
| didrocks | (maybe not patch the default one, just shipping another one) | 10:25 |
| didrocks | heh :) | 10:25 |
| didrocks | travel-duties | 10:25 |
| willcooke | yeah, shipping a new one probably makes most sense | 10:25 |
| * willcooke finally gets that cup of tea | 10:25 | |
| didrocks | we can thus let people revert to "default experience" | 10:25 |
| didrocks | waow | 10:25 |
| didrocks | should be really cold now | 10:25 |
| willcooke | I'll start over again :) | 10:25 |
| willcooke | didrocks, seems the default is still to use xorg - is that right? | 10:29 |
| willcooke | on this newly installed machine ubuntu is the default, ubuntu on wayland is available | 10:29 |
| willcooke | intel machine | 10:29 |
| didrocks | willcooke: right now yeah, we default to xorg until we take a decision | 10:31 |
| didrocks | but remember that we discovered that ubiquity isn't wayland's compatible | 10:31 |
| willcooke | ya | 10:32 |
| willcooke | and jibel reported a few issues with wayland. My gut feeling is that wayland isnt ready yet. But lets do some more playing | 10:32 |
| didrocks | yeah | 10:33 |
| didrocks | still good in any case to provide the other session type | 10:33 |
| willcooke | +1 | 10:33 |
| jibel | willcooke, agreed, on a live session at least apport and ubiquity are crashing on wayland | 10:33 |
| jibel | seems like core components to me :) | 10:33 |
| willcooke | :) | 10:33 |
| didrocks | depends, if you switch to wayland, as apport doesn't work, no automated crash report from ubiquity | 10:34 |
| didrocks | sounds like a win :-) | 10:34 |
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| * duflu fades into the night | 10:37 | |
| === clobranox is now known as clobrano | ||
| willcooke | found a missing icon in the bluetooth speaker test dialog - where should I log that? | 10:42 |
| jbicha | good morning | 10:46 |
| didrocks | hey jbicha | 10:47 |
| jbicha | I think the problem with Wayland is that if you want it to be default in 18.04 LTS, we ought to make it default in 17.10 too, right? | 10:47 |
| didrocks | depends, if we have enough feedback from the pre-testing + optional sessions, it's still doable, but yeah, if the decision is to switch it on by default on 18.04 LTS, I guess switching it one session earlier would make all of us more confortable | 10:49 |
| jbicha | yeah, obviously it's not a hard requirement since we have made major changes in the LTS dev cycle before without doing them in LTS-1 first | 10:55 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey | 10:56 |
| seb128 | jbicha, that's sort of true, but I don't think we replied to the question on whether we want it default in 18.04 yet | 10:57 |
| jbicha | we sort of told people months ago that we were going to do Wayland by default in 18.04… | 10:59 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey, did you see my ucc branches? | 10:59 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, no | 10:59 |
| Trevinho | seb128: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2855 | 10:59 |
| seb128 | jbicha, where did we say that? | 10:59 |
| Trevinho | seb128: i forgot to push these commits in my previous branch -_- | 11:00 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, that's a bileto not a branch? | 11:00 |
| jbicha | I'm not opposed to us making the right decision with Wayland, but maybe we need to be more cautious before making announcements like that in the future | 11:00 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I don't think we commited anywhere at making wayland default for the LTS | 11:00 |
| jbicha | https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/04/18/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t17:11 | 11:01 |
| jbicha | and based on that happening during a somewhat-well-advertised meeting, the media reported it as confirmed too | 11:01 |
| seb128 | typical example of medias not doing their job correctly | 11:02 |
| seb128 | you can't pick up an IRC line from a discuss and make it look like it's a formal announce or commitement | 11:02 |
| jbicha | I really don't think the media is to blame here when the Desktop Lead makes a pretty plain statement when asked at an event where third parties are invited | 11:03 |
| jbicha | it was like a press conference | 11:03 |
| seb128 | lol | 11:03 |
| seb128 | we don't have the same view from what IRC is | 11:03 |
| jbicha | that wasn't a normal weekly meeting | 11:03 |
| seb128 | I didn't speak about meeting | 11:03 |
| seb128 | but about IRC | 11:04 |
| jbicha | that was the 2nd meeting that we invited others to attend | 11:04 |
| seb128 | IRC has never been a platform where we do any kind of announcement | 11:04 |
| seb128 | it's one were we have discussions | 11:04 |
| seb128 | and state intends | 11:04 |
| seb128 | that line should read as "we are working on making wayland default" | 11:05 |
| seb128 | which isn't a commitement but an intend | 11:05 |
| seb128 | if we think it's not working out for some reasons we keep the option to go with plan B | 11:05 |
| jbicha | the media is not at fault here | 11:06 |
| jbicha | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/ubuntu-will-run-wayland-default | 11:06 |
| seb128 | let's agree to disagree | 11:06 |
| jbicha | https://twitter.com/8none1/status/854413979766181889 | 11:06 |
| jbicha | you just said that the media should have confirmed the news before reporting it; that was actually done here | 11:07 |
| seb128 | no, I'm saying that they should know better than making news from IRC discussions | 11:07 |
| seb128 | we have proper lists and website were we do announcements | 11:07 |
| jbicha | or twitter? | 11:07 |
| seb128 | does Ubuntu has a twitter? | 11:08 |
| jbicha | https://twitter.com/8none1/status/854413979766181889 | 11:08 |
| seb128 | and even if twitter, from the Ubuntu account | 11:08 |
| seb128 | that's a personal account | 11:08 |
| seb128 | not a project one | 11:08 |
| jbicha | willcooke: pinging you since we're talking about your statements… | 11:08 |
| willcooke | jbicha, o/ | 11:08 |
| * willcooke reads | 11:08 | |
| willcooke | well, that was a long time ago | 11:09 |
| willcooke | It looked like we were going to use it, but based on the data we now have, we can change that | 11:09 |
| seb128 | jbicha, what I'm saying is that there is more consideration and carefulness done in making official announce than there is in having people stating something on their private account | 11:09 |
| willcooke | 17.10 would have to be Wayland if we are planning to ship wayland only in 18.04 | 11:10 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I don't think anyone would consider making a commitement before evaluating the technologie and starting using it | 11:10 |
| jbicha | I'll repeat what I said at the beginning: I'm ok with us making the right decision regardless of previous decisions, but let's try to be more careful | 11:11 |
| seb128 | I don't think we ever had a *decision* | 11:12 |
| jbicha | about these kinds of statements in the future before we're certain | 11:12 |
| seb128 | we stated an intend | 11:12 |
| seb128 | but yes, I agree with you than more can be read in those statement that it should be | 11:13 |
| seb128 | and that it would be better to be less direct/let the door open for changes next time | 11:13 |
| jbicha | the statements were not worded as goals or intents or "we'd like to" or "we'll try to" | 11:13 |
| seb128 | right, they should have been | 11:13 |
| jbicha | ok | 11:13 |
| seb128 | but it's IRC, it's not a media were you carefully craft your messages | 11:13 |
| seb128 | it's one where you type as people comment | 11:14 |
| seb128 | which is why I say it's not a proper media for announce | 11:14 |
| willcooke | Once we *know* I'll do an insights post | 11:14 |
| willcooke | moving on, I think... | 11:14 |
| seb128 | +1 | 11:15 |
| willcooke | seb128, u-o-a on X... I can't even click "add" to try and add a u1 account | 11:15 |
| jbicha | seb128: do you know what's up with LP: #1703010 ? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+source/gnome-shell/+pots/gnome-shell | 11:15 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1703010 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell is not translated into Hebrew in Artful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703010 | 11:15 |
| willcooke | maybe I broke something | 11:15 |
| seb128 | willcooke, u1 isn't working I think | 11:15 |
| jbicha | Hebrew should be about 86% translated https://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-shell/ | 11:15 |
| seb128 | jbicha, let me have a look | 11:15 |
| willcooke | seb128, ahhh - so your comment on the trello card was that online accounts itself is used in those places, not u1. Gotay | 11:16 |
| willcooke | *gotya | 11:16 |
| seb128 | willcooke, yeah, my usecase is, as written in the bug, to add a google account to UOA and have my events listed in the indicator and my calendar in gnome-calendar | 11:16 |
| willcooke | seb128, nod. thx | 11:16 |
| seb128 | yw | 11:16 |
| seb128 | sorry if that was not clear | 11:17 |
| seb128 | the framework was used on the phone as well | 11:17 |
| seb128 | and I think the u1 plugin was only working on touch | 11:17 |
| willcooke | seb128, nw. So are you +1 on removing u-o-a from Artful? | 11:17 |
| seb128 | yes | 11:17 |
| willcooke | and allow U7 session people to add the account manually | 11:17 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah, branches are linked | 11:17 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, k, let me look | 11:17 |
| seb128 | willcooke, it's less good than it was but it's part of that game, we lower maintainance cost but the session is degrading in result | 11:18 |
| jbicha | willcooke: it's already half done; UOA has been dropped from Empathy, Shotwell, e-d-s and the Unity lens and there's already a removal bug for UOA stuff | 11:18 |
| willcooke | jbicha, ack, thx. Just making sure I understand the complete story ;) | 11:19 |
| willcooke | (for a change ;P ) | 11:19 |
| jbicha | the Unity story for Online Accounts is a bit rough like Seb pointed out on his last comment to the Trello card | 11:20 |
| jbicha | Unity itself doesn't need Online Accounts but it would be nice if they had some way of setting up Online Accounts for GNOME apps they might use | 11:21 |
| willcooke | On the topic of settings - do we need to add software sources in to gnome settings? | 11:22 |
| jbicha | no :) | 11:22 |
| willcooke | oh | 11:23 |
| willcooke | I found it | 11:23 |
| willcooke | in Software | 11:23 |
| willcooke | humm | 11:23 |
| seb128 | right | 11:24 |
| willcooke | thought is: all the existing docs in the world will point users to settings. But also, this is a new world, and so those docs can be considered out of date. So... dunno what's best here | 11:24 |
| willcooke | just throwing it out there | 11:24 |
| jbicha | update-manager also links to "Software & Updates" | 11:26 |
| seb128 | I think it's easy enough to find, you can open it from the dash or from update-manager or from gnome-software | 11:26 |
| willcooke | oki, thx | 11:27 |
| jbicha | if someone wanted to integrate that into gnome-control-center, I think that would be nice but I don't like it as a 3rd-party non-modal popup like it is in u-c-c | 11:27 |
| seb128 | willcooke, I would vote for not changing g-c-c for that one, it's not something users need as a basic need, it's sort of advanced users and it has enough entry points | 11:27 |
| willcooke | nod | 11:27 |
| jbicha | LP: #1690964 is the tracking bug if someone did want to integrate it | 11:29 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1690964 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "All Settings in Gnome Shell is missing 'Software & Updates' icon" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1690964 | 11:29 |
| willcooke | thx jbicha | 11:35 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, reviewed, thanks for the changes | 11:37 |
| Trevinho | seb128: thank you | 11:37 |
| seb128 | yw | 11:37 |
| jbicha | seb128: there was other reported artful translations issue LP: #1702759 I didn't look into that one | 11:42 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1702759 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution is not translated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1702759 | 11:42 |
| jbicha | *one other issue* | 11:42 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 11:42 |
| jbicha | are artful language packs going to be updated weekly now or is that still manual? | 11:42 |
| seb128 | still manual but I'm going to set up regular cron updates this week | 11:44 |
| seb128 | bah, I hate evolution | 11:44 |
| seb128 | jbicha, evolution is the usual "upstream pot name includes the version" and you uploaded a new serie in artful | 11:45 |
| seb128 | I'm adding to my list of things to fix | 11:46 |
| seb128 | that's annoying, I don't remember why we didn't patch that out of upstream to just use "evolution" as domain name | 11:46 |
| seb128 | we should | 11:46 |
| seb128 | hum | 11:47 |
| seb128 | that's not enough | 11:47 |
| seb128 | they moved to cmake as a bonus | 11:47 |
| seb128 | need to look at that | 11:47 |
| seb128 | which reminds me of that bug you opened on dh_translations not handling GNOME direct use of gettext | 11:48 |
| seb128 | which is also on my list | 11:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, I'm going to sort those out, thanks for reporting | 11:48 |
| jbicha | yeah, the cmake conversion was a pain, it took a lot more work to do the 3.24 updates than normal :( | 11:49 |
| seb128 | jibel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1703010/comments/2 | 11:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1703010 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell is not translated into Hebrew in Artful" [Undecided,New] | 11:53 |
| seb128 | jibel, sorry was for jbicha | 11:53 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ^ looks like an upstream bug and not fixed yet in git | 11:54 |
| seb128 | jbicha, same issue with the es.po file, added a comment about that | 11:55 |
| jbicha | ok, I can fix those upstream in git | 11:55 |
| seb128 | thanks | 11:56 |
| jbicha | Spanish has been broken a lot, I told the translator and he said that it was a bug in his software, hopefully that bug was fixed! | 11:56 |
| seb128 | do you know what software he uses? | 11:56 |
| jbicha | gtranslator | 11:58 |
| jbicha | it just adds the current year to the end and if the line is too long, I guess it gets wrapped which breaks things | 11:59 |
| jbicha | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtranslator/tree/src/gtr-header.c#n682 | 11:59 |
| seb128 | right | 12:02 |
| rbasak | grep 'XSession=ubuntu' /var/lib/AccountsService/users/* # exits 0 (finds a match) | 12:03 |
| rbasak | Incidentally, I'd use -q in the postinst | 12:03 |
| rbasak | I'll file a bug for upgrade logs. | 12:03 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:03 |
| seb128 | rbasak, the url I gave was incorrect, code changed since, it's http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/gnome-session/ubuntu_lightdm_gdm3_transition/view/head:/debian/ubuntu-session.postinst now ... but yeah can/should be improved | 12:04 |
| seb128 | jbicha, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771765 | 12:05 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 771765 in Parse engine "Problem with 80 character lines and header comments" [Major,New] | 12:05 |
| jbicha | thanks | 12:07 |
| seb128 | yw | 12:12 |
| rbasak | seb128, didrocks, willcooke: bug 1703358 | 12:15 |
| ubot5 | bug 1703358 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Display manager defaults to lightdm on upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703358 | 12:15 |
| seb128 | rbasak, thanks | 12:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, es.po is having the same issue in gnome-software gnome-session tracker ligdata | 12:17 |
| seb128 | you should tell that guy to check for those errors | 12:17 |
| seb128 | jbicha, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/+imports?field.filter_status=FAILED | 12:18 |
| seb128 | if you want to keep an eye on such errors in the futur | 12:18 |
| jbicha | I emailed him about it in early September :| | 12:21 |
| didrocks | rbasak: thx! | 12:22 |
| jbicha | ok, those es headers are fixed now in git | 12:29 |
| jbicha | too bad he's so prolific, I've probably fixed up dozens of those by now :| | 12:30 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 12:36 |
| seb128 | k, I'm starving, time for a late lunch | 12:40 |
| didrocks | enjoy seb128 | 12:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, 'ci ;-) | 12:43 |
| jibel | seb128, willcooke for app that don't work properly on wayland do you use a specific tag? | 12:48 |
| jbicha | jibel: I've been using the 'wayland' tag for those https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=wayland | 12:54 |
| jibel | jbicha, okay, thanks | 12:59 |
| kenvandine | rbasak, just commented on bug 1703358 | 13:04 |
| ubot5 | bug 1703358 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Display manager defaults to lightdm on upgrade" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703358 | 13:04 |
| kenvandine | rbasak, your ubuntu-session version in that upgrade was from before the migration script | 13:05 |
| kenvandine | rbasak, your's was actually several revisions behind. 3.24.1-0ubuntu8 vs 3.24.1-0ubuntu11 which had the migration script | 13:05 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: hey, how are you? | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | hey didrocks | 13:06 |
| kenvandine | good and you? | 13:06 |
| didrocks | excellent! getting a lot fresher :) | 13:06 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: we discussed 2 modifications that should be done in the script though: the migration should be done only once, depending on ubuntu-session version (here, it will be every time, conditionnally no?) and only if lightdm was set as default. Making sense? | 13:10 |
| kenvandine | it should only happen if gdm isn't set to the default | 13:10 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: but it means, I select lightdm as default | 13:11 |
| didrocks | next ubuntu-session upgrade | 13:11 |
| kenvandine | true | 13:11 |
| didrocks | it will retry to reset it, correct? | 13:11 |
| didrocks | hence the "depending on version" and maybe only if lightdm is default, as we only migrate our defaults | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | checking version isn't great though, there could be lots of revisions before users upgrade | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | perhaps we leave a file behind once we've run it once | 13:13 |
| kenvandine | so it doesn't happen again | 13:13 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: version before your migration script was in? | 13:14 |
| didrocks | that should cover all non ppa case, even if we continue upgrading on xenial? | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | this script isn't in any ppa or xenial | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | it's in the ubuntu-session package for artful only | 13:15 |
| didrocks | yeah | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | that's why we put the script in ubuntu-session | 13:15 |
| didrocks | that's why I mention you can just add the version check to "before I added that postinst" | 13:16 |
| kenvandine | should really limit the exposure for flavors, etc | 13:16 |
| didrocks | also you need to have #DEBHELPER# ;) | 13:16 |
| kenvandine | whoops... i guess the other postinst scripts in that package didn't have that :) | 13:16 |
| kenvandine | i copied it from another as a template :) | 13:17 |
| didrocks | :) | 13:17 |
| didrocks | autotools way :p | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | anyway... | 13:17 |
| didrocks | (just checked, the .postinst and .prerm had them though) | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | so add a check to see if the version we are upgrading from was older than the version we added it | 13:17 |
| kenvandine | i might have copied it from gdm3, can't recall which | 13:18 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: yeah, I think like 3.24.1-0ubuntu10~ should be good | 13:18 |
| didrocks | that + checking lightdm was default | 13:18 |
| didrocks | otherwise, I just tried on a vm, works well! | 13:18 |
| kenvandine | oh, it's like 2/3 of the way through the file in gdm3 :) | 13:18 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, i already check to see if gdm3 is the default and exit if it is | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | isn't that the same thing? | 13:19 |
| didrocks | no | 13:19 |
| didrocks | I would say we only change people who had lightdm by default | 13:19 |
| kenvandine | right | 13:19 |
| didrocks | like, if they switched to another display manger | 13:19 |
| didrocks | (even not gdm) | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | oh... like not gdm | 13:20 |
| didrocks | we don't force over them | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | got it | 13:20 |
| didrocks | yep | 13:20 |
| kenvandine | so opposite | 13:20 |
| didrocks | so that we only migrate "our" defaults | 13:20 |
| didrocks | if people wanted another combination, let's not upset them ;) | 13:20 |
| didrocks | (even if in practice, apart if someone has installed kde with the kdm-replacement) and have a test user with the default, I don't see a lot of that happening) | 13:21 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hi, fyi, I am looking into libreoffice 5.4.0~rc2 this week | 13:35 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25061324/ | 13:37 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: hum, I don't think you should exit like this, you can imbricate the if and only do the action if all matches. Imagine you have something to be done later on or in #DEBHELPER# | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | oh right in DEBHELPER | 13:39 |
| kenvandine | ok | 13:39 |
| didrocks | also, dpkg --compare-versions $2 gt 3.24.1-0ubuntu10~ | 13:39 |
| didrocks | then if [] doesn't work | 13:40 |
| didrocks | as you are in set -e | 13:40 |
| didrocks | so, it will stop and errors if dpkg returns != 0 | 13:40 |
| kenvandine | ugh... right :) | 13:40 |
| * kenvandine handles that | 13:40 | |
| willcooke | didrocks, do you still use your x220? | 14:10 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, thanks, please keep me posted with your progress | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/25061451/ seems to work well | 14:11 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, I’m particularly interested in what you’ll do wrt bug #1700953 | 14:11 |
| ubot5 | bug 1700953 in cppunit (Ubuntu) "Sync cppunit 1.14.0-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1700953 | 14:11 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, noticed that, also xmlsec needs to be merged | 14:14 |
| didrocks | willcooke: I still do, yeah | 14:16 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: lgtm | 14:17 |
| Laney | hey kenvandine | 14:17 |
| willcooke | didrocks, I /think/ I'm ok without that > 100% patch - but gonna do a little test | 14:17 |
| willcooke | didrocks, if we can avoid it this cycle I think we should | 14:17 |
| didrocks | willcooke: the volume is really low on my laptop for instance without it | 14:18 |
| willcooke | didrocks, oki, lemme test | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | welcome back Laney! | 14:18 |
| didrocks | and we got tons of users complaining | 14:18 |
| willcooke | I assume its the same here :) | 14:18 |
| Laney | kenvandine: you good? | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | Laney, yup, and you? | 14:19 |
| Laney | pretty goooooooooooddddddddd | 14:19 |
| Laney | spent lunch hanging out and putting away washing /o\ | 14:20 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: after a second look, I didn't spot anything either, sounds way better :) | 14:20 |
| Laney | post holiday chores | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, thx | 14:20 |
| Laney | wait | 14:20 |
| * kenvandine waits | 14:21 | |
| Laney | laney@nightingale:~$ dpkg --compare-versions "" lt 1 && echo yes | 14:22 |
| Laney | yes | 14:22 |
| Laney | laney@nightingale:~$ dpkg --compare-versions "" lt-nl 1 && echo yes | 14:22 |
| Laney | laney@nightingale:~$ | 14:22 |
| Laney | I think you should use lt-nl to not do this on new installs | 14:22 |
| kenvandine | good catch | 14:22 |
| Laney | and | 14:23 |
| Laney | what about doing "if grep -qs pattern file; then ...; fi" instead of capturing the return code? | 14:24 |
| Laney | AND (the worst bit) | 14:24 |
| Laney | for me the prompt was shown before the postinst | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | shouldn't be... | 14:24 |
| Laney | when apt does "Preconfiguring packages" to show all the prompts up front at the start of the run | 14:24 |
| didrocks | Laney: just did a do-release-upgrade on a vm and didn't get anything asked though | 14:24 |
| Laney | ok, well I got it | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | i did the same | 14:25 |
| Laney | ... | 14:25 |
| didrocks | which is weird | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | as well as a dist-upgrade | 14:25 |
| didrocks | but maybe apt vs do-release-upgrade | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | seemed good | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | dist-ugprade worked for me | 14:25 |
| didrocks | weird | 14:25 |
| Laney | you want a screencast or something? | 14:25 |
| rbasak | kenvandine: thanks, but I think that's a red herring. See my comment in the bug. | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | rbasak, oh, i thought term.log was your terminal output from a single upgrade | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | Laney, i'll run through it again | 14:28 |
| Laney | kenvandine: https://asciinema.org/a/msclHbv7NhCFogcDSiLde5nxZ | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | Laney, irt the grep, i'm not catching the return code i'm getting the count | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | either works though | 14:30 |
| Laney | but all you care for is if there's a match? | 14:30 |
| willcooke | rebooting in to a live Artful session - brb | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | Laney, it was just my way of dealing with set -e :) | 14:33 |
| Laney | nod | 14:33 |
| Laney | anyways that's my feedback | 14:33 |
| Laney | the thing in the screencast I think is the most annoying one | 14:33 |
| Laney | because that has to be fixed in gdm3.config afaics | 14:33 |
| Laney | and you can't rely on deps there | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | which means this really needs to be done in gdm3 not in ubuntu-session like we thought | 14:34 |
| kenvandine | Laney, oh... i did a apt-get dist-upgrade as well as an apt-get install gdm3 ubuntu-session last week | 14:37 |
| kenvandine | your video doesn't actually configure ubuntu-session at all | 14:38 |
| kenvandine | what versio of ubuntu-session do you have? | 14:38 |
| Laney | no I didn't upgrade that | 14:38 |
| Laney | I was showing you that the prompt appears before any package is configured | 14:38 |
| Laney | earlier today when I noticed this for the first time I did get the upgraded ubuntu-session | 14:39 |
| kenvandine | i'll run through it again, but i tested those two scenarios last week and didn't get the prompt | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | Laney, and your user session is set to ubuntu right? | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | not gnome? | 14:40 |
| Laney | yeah, XSession=ubuntu | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:41 |
| Laney | so, you can do something like | 14:41 |
| Laney | dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, put it back as the default | 14:41 |
| Laney | apt remove gdm3, apt install gdm3 | 14:41 |
| Laney | to reproduce what I just did more or less | 14:41 |
| Laney | erm, apt install ubuntu-desktop (maybe that wouldn't matter) | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | but the script runs on ubuntu-session configure | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | not gdm3 | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | ls /etc/X11/def* | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | that would leave a file there | 14:42 |
| Laney | wait a second, I'll just record a new one with ubuntu-session removed | 14:45 |
| Laney | it's the same because gdm3.config is the first thing being run, but at least that'll remove any confusion | 14:46 |
| Laney | https://asciinema.org/a/EB9VrjTcVZMmNK27lQ0JCTME9 | 14:48 |
| willcooke | didrocks, > 100% exists for me in A! I agree it's good to have there, it is a bit low otherwise | 14:48 |
| didrocks | willcooke: it does exist, but you can't override it so that volume +/- keeps you above 100% | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | Laney, wtf... i just reproduced it too | 14:53 |
| willcooke | didrocks, ohh, I see. | 14:55 |
| seb128 | didrocks, below you mean? | 14:56 |
| seb128 | or I'm not sure to understand what you describe | 14:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, you can't override the settings to tell "keep me above 100% if I press volume +" | 14:56 |
| seb128 | oh right | 14:56 |
| didrocks | if I set manually to 110%, then use the media key "volume +", it resets at 100% | 14:56 |
| seb128 | so purely g-s-d to change I guess? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | g-c-c is fine | 14:57 |
| didrocks | depends, we added a settings to say "allow above 100%" and didn't make it the default, correct? | 14:57 |
| didrocks | (and that's g-c-c, sound panel I guess) | 14:57 |
| Laney | kenvandine: sucks eh | 14:59 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure how the upstream panel works | 14:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks, k, so yeah it looks like they don't have an equivalent, the UI is slightly misleading that it have the mark and let you go over it from the settings panel | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | Laney, i sure wish i had the older debs available to test with :/ | 15:02 |
| seb128 | but yeah they don't let key go over by choice | 15:02 |
| seb128 | so we probably want to add back that change | 15:02 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, I had the same trouble with the marker | 15:03 |
| didrocks | yep | 15:03 |
| seb128 | talk to Bastian about it over a beer :p | 15:03 |
| seb128 | but I guess it's going to be a no | 15:03 |
| jbicha | seb128: save your beers for Rui ;) https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2017-May/msg00160.html | 15:04 |
| didrocks | yeah, I don't have any hope on that one going upstream due to past discussions we tried on this | 15:04 |
| jbicha | new maintainer so it's worth trying again :) | 15:05 |
| Laney | kenvandine: I got the old ones from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/3.24.1-0ubuntu10/+build/12909913 | 15:05 |
| seb128 | jbicha, right :-) | 15:06 |
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| kenvandine | Laney, https://asciinema.org/a/DBboeNKanQsBQvT5izEZtJOeY | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | Laney, that's the dist-upgrade, doesn't show the prompt | 15:35 |
| * kenvandine wonders why that would be different | 15:35 | |
| kenvandine | oh wait, that had the older version of gdm installed | 15:36 |
| * kenvandine does that again :) | 15:36 | |
| oSoMoN | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/new-libreoffice-beta-snap-testing | 15:36 |
| jbicha | how does it "distinguish the snap version" ? | 15:38 |
| oSoMoN | not really sure, but one improvement in that snap is that the dash will display proper icons for the apps, where it previously a generic icon for all the apps | 15:39 |
| oSoMoN | maybe that’s what that person meant? | 15:40 |
| Laney | kenvandine: did you set your display manager back to lightdm? | 15:44 |
| Laney | when I tested it I removed and reinstalled gdm3 | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | Laney, if i install the old versions of gdm and ubuntu-session | 15:45 |
| kenvandine | set the default back to lightdm, then do a dist-upgrade it doesn't prompt | 15:46 |
| Laney | using dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 right? | 15:46 |
| kenvandine | but indeed if gdm3 wasn't installed at all it does prompt | 15:46 |
| Laney | nod | 15:47 |
| Laney | well I was trying to get close enough to the upgrade experience | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | i had done this from a ppa and a fresh install though | 15:47 |
| Laney | which is a new install of gdm3 | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | and i did a do-release-upgrade from zesty as well | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | after the desktop seed was updated | 15:48 |
| Laney | mmm | 15:51 |
| jbicha | fossfreedom: new mutter SRU for zesty LP: #1690173 could you check if Budgie still works fine with it this week? | 15:53 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1690173 in mutter (Ubuntu Zesty) "Update mutter to 3.24.2" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1690173 | 15:53 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, going to upload 5.4.0~rc2 for a first pin this night | 15:55 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, ack, when you do please share the link to the PPA | 15:56 |
| kenvandine | Laney, so do you think i should move all this logic into gdm3.postinst or gdm3.config? | 16:00 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, it should appear in ppa:ricotz/red for artful | 16:01 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, I will hold back the git branch for now | 16:02 |
| Laney | kenvandine: gdm3.config I think if it can be done there | 16:02 |
| Laney | it'll have to be a delta but I don't see how we can get around that | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:03 |
| Laney | meh | 16:06 |
| Laney | sorry for not realising this at first | 16:06 |
| * Laney didn't really know about this preconfigure stuff before | 16:06 | |
| jbicha | didrocks: can I upload the ubuntu-meta language changes now or should I wait a few more days? | 16:07 |
| didrocks | jbicha: I think now it's fine, feel free to go ahead, we can compare before/after | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | Laney, no worries, me either | 16:08 |
| jbicha | jibel: when I tried reproducing your update-manager wayland bug LP: #1703365 , apport pointed me to LP: #1676339 | 16:46 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1703365 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager:AttributeError:<lambda>:on_settings_button_clicked:show_settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703365 | 16:46 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1676339 in mir (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with AttributeError in show_settings(): 'GdkMirWindow' object has no attribute 'get_xid'" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1676339 | 16:46 |
| jbicha | I think you can mark one as a duplicate of the other | 16:47 |
| seb128 | have a nice evening desktopers | 16:50 |
| Beret | seb128, cheers | 16:51 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, you too! | 16:55 |
| jibel | jbicha, not sure they are duplicate, mine is with wayland the other with mir | 17:00 |
| Laney | night | 17:03 |
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| oSoMoN | good evening everyone | 17:23 |
| jbicha | jibel: except that I was using Wayland, not Mir; the problem is it's trying to call an X-specific function | 17:57 |
| ricotz | jbicha, hey, are you involve with boost? | 17:59 |
| jbicha | ricotz: no | 18:23 |
| ricotz | jbicha, ok | 18:26 |
| willcooke | jbicha, hey! I put a brach up for consideration. Should I add you as a reviewer as well? | 19:22 |
| willcooke | *branch | 19:22 |
| willcooke | oh, this is for the gdm / pulse audio issue | 19:23 |
| willcooke | https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/gdm/ubuntu/+merge/327161 | 19:23 |
| willcooke | I'm afraid debian changelogs are a bit alien to me, I think I got it about right | 19:24 |
| jbicha | willcooke: please propose against https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu instead | 19:26 |
| jbicha | also, there was a bit more from Debian that doesn't look like it made into your version | 19:26 |
| jbicha | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu | 19:26 |
| jbicha | in other words, maybe use the Debian proposal instead | 19:27 |
| jbicha | it was reverted in Debian svn (temporarily?), I believe because they wanted to make sure it didn't cause problems for a11y | 19:28 |
| willcooke | jbicha, do you have a link to the debian version? | 19:36 |
| fossfreedom | jbicha - certainly will test budgie with the new zesty mutter. Will update the bug-report. thanks | 19:36 |
| willcooke | jbicha, anyway +1 to use the Debian version | 19:41 |
| willcooke | I'll re-propose anyway, just in case | 19:41 |
| jbicha | it's difficult to link to the Debian version since it's only in an old svn commit | 19:43 |
| willcooke | jbicha, could you copy and paste the diff to paste.u.c? I'm interested to know what I missed | 19:43 |
| jbicha | svn diff, hmm | 19:44 |
| willcooke | if it's a pita don't worry :) | 19:44 |
| jbicha | it's a very reasonable request :| | 19:45 |
| jbicha | willcooke: here's the reverse diff: https://paste.debian.net/975780/ | 19:48 |
| willcooke | jbicha, thanks | 19:49 |
| willcooke | oki, so they're installing the file in postinst and mine does it in rules | 19:50 |
| willcooke | but otherwise they're the same | 19:50 |
| willcooke | and can change mine to do it the same way if preferred | 19:50 |
| jbicha | let's use Debian's approach | 19:53 |
| willcooke | jbicha, humm.. line 25 of that diff - if /var/lib/gdm3/.config/pulse doesn't exist, that will fail - and I can't see where it gets created | 20:01 |
| willcooke | I've got to go EOD and get the kids in bed, I'll pick it up again tomorrow | 20:08 |
| willcooke | (or I might be back a bit later, lets see) | 20:09 |
| jbicha | feel free to ping big_on about that since he made the change in Debian | 20:14 |
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| jbicha | robert_ancell: sil2100 wants you to add a tracking bug for the new version update to your gnome-software/xenial SRU | 21:01 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, snapd-glib or g-s? | 21:02 |
| jbicha | at least gnome-software in particular, mentioned earlier today/yesterday in #ubuntu-release | 21:03 |
| robert_ancell | oh, the 3.20.5 release? | 21:03 |
| jbicha | yes, it is a fairly big update :) | 21:04 |
| robert_ancell | jbicha, I opened bug 1703461 and uploaded 3.20.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.3 | 21:45 |
| ubot5 | bug 1703461 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update to 3.20.5" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1703461 | 21:45 |
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