lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:02
ubot5Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu - Release notes: https://ubottu.com/y/zesty - Want to upgrade? see https://ubottu.com/y/artful04:02
oerheksJtech .. should be the same in debian, or whatever ubuntu-fork04:12
oerheksoops wrong channel :-P04:12
lotuspsychjetroling us for days now04:13
oerheksreally, he mentioned .efi earlier, he does have an uefi motherboard.04:13
oerheks1:52 https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23ubuntu.html04:13
oerheks.. see ??04:21
oerheksstill i do not believe he wants to install xubuntu whatever04:22
lotuspsychjeim not gonna feed him anymore04:23
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^05:24
EriC^^hey lotuspsychje05:24
oerheksNoooooooooooooooo .... hi EriC^^ :-D05:25
EriC^^hi oerheks :D05:25
ubot5Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2017. See !eol and !eolupgrade07:03
lotuspsychje!info mrtg07:13
ubot5mrtg (source: mrtg): multi router traffic grapher. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.17.4-4ubuntu1 (artful), package size 323 kB, installed size 920 kB07:13
ducassegood morning, everyone07:25
oerhekshey ducasse07:28
ducassehi oerheks - how are you and drabber?07:29
oerhekswe have just walked the walk, and i have planned to go to a fleemarket later on07:31
oerheksyour missy is still in bed??07:31
ducassefleamarket sounds like fun :) the little lady is up, currently sitting in the windowsill looking out at the snow. i'll open so she can go out in a minute, but i don't think she'll want to.07:35
oerheksfirst i give drabber his flea-drops ..08:10
oerheksthen grab a bag with change08:10
oerheksglasses, check08:10
oerhekslist of goods to buy, check08:11
ducasseheading out? is there lots of snow where you live?08:11
oerheks1.5 A 12 volt adapter, intel nuc max 25 euro, nice pants08:11
oerheksno, i go +- 10:3008:12
oerheksneighbour is driving a nice warm car08:13
oerheksdrabber in a shoulderbag08:13
lotuspsychjebbl sea08:37
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BluesKajHowdy folks10:46
lotuspsychjegood afternoon guys15:28
lotuspsychjeoerheks: segmentation fault on synaptic aswell on wayland here15:28
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje15:29
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj15:29
pauljwhi lotuspsychje15:29
lotuspsychjehey pauljw15:29
oerhekssad to hear, lotuspsychje :-(15:31
BluesKajheh, just tried wayland on the laptop, i3 cpu and intel gpu, but some apps still crashed ...there were so many notifiers it was kind of comical ;-015:31
oerhekswell, we wait for an update, i hope before 18.0415:31
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: gnome or kde?15:31
lotuspsychjehey TJ-15:31
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: you feel like its lagging launches of programs?15:32
BluesKajlotuspsychje, all apps seem slow to load, yes15:33
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: my bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/174014615:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1740146 in mutter (Ubuntu) "System slow on wayland, lagging mouse and programs on 17.10 & 18.04" [Undecided,New]15:34
TJ-lotuspsychje: hiya :)15:34
TJ-Hmmm, how about dropping wayland for 18.04 :p15:35
lotuspsychjeits working on fedora smooth?15:35
BluesKajyeah, tried it on fedora , it ran well, but fedora is not kubuntu/ubuntu15:38
lotuspsychjejust had a white screen of death on wayland15:41
pauljwhopefully it'll be all worked out by 202115:42
pauljwthey could flush it along with systemd and it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.15:43
BluesKajhey pauljw , yup I agree...wouldn't miss them one bit15:46
lotuspsychjeanyone sees what time i got disconnected?15:47
pauljweastern time15:47
lotuspsychjei hope they get that light ubuntu feeling again on bionic final15:50
BluesKaji should have installed bionic on the ssd to compare it to artful, unfortunately it's on the spare hdd15:53
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: in this stage, i dont find much differences yet15:53
lotuspsychjejust different package versions15:54
BluesKajlotuspsychje,  ok, was thinking of dding the partitions over to the ssd , but i'll leave it for now15:55
EriC^^hey guys15:56
EriC^^what's cracking15:56
pauljwhey EriC^^15:56
EriC^^hey pauljw how are you?15:56
pauljwgood thanks, you?15:56
EriC^^good thanks15:57
BluesKajhey EriC^^15:57
EriC^^the weather's been pretty bad today here15:57
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^15:57
EriC^^hey BluesKaj how are you doing?15:57
EriC^^hey lotuspsychje15:57
lotuspsychjewe had sunny but cold at the sea15:57
EriC^^how'd the day go15:57
lotuspsychjegreat, distributed 100 more flyers15:58
EriC^^aha what did you mean by 'bbl sea' ?15:58
EriC^^fishing or like walking?15:58
lotuspsychjeyeah sea walk15:58
BluesKajgood here EriC^^ , juat another ordinary winter day here ...the deep freeze is fianlly gone15:58
EriC^^cant wait for the sunny weather here16:00
BluesKajmust be nice16:01
lotuspsychjewhere could i find this white screen of death?16:02
lotuspsychjeto bug it need to know what is was16:02
lotuspsychjevar crash doenst show16:04
TJ-lotuspsychje: anything in the wayland journal entries?16:08
lotuspsychjeTJ-: wheres that16:09
TJ-lotuspsychje: use "systemctl status" to discover the service name - might be gdm3 itself, not sure16:11
lotuspsychjeTJ-: im back on xorg atm16:11
lotuspsychje├─1294 gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-launch-environment]16:14
lotuspsychje490 wayland bugs16:19
lotuspsychjegonna affect me on few bugs16:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 1731102 in wayland (Ubuntu) "Poor performance with Wayland" [High,Confirmed]16:21
lotuspsychjeaffected tnx to oerheks https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/155195116:23
ubot5Launchpad bug 1551951 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "synaptic does not run over gnome wayland session" [Medium,Confirmed]16:23
alkisg18.04 will default to wayland? Poor lts users... :D16:24
alkisgMATE ftw! :D16:24
lotuspsychjealkisg: this aint good my customers16:25
lotuspsychjeneed something stable16:25
lotuspsychjegtg guys, dinner & movies16:41
pauljwalkisg, 16.04 is supported till 2021, no poor lts users.16:48
alkisgWith abandoned unity?! No thanks! MATE ftw! :D16:56
pauljwMATE runs on 16.04 too, just like xfce that i'm using.17:05
ubot5Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2017. See !eol and !eolupgrade21:46
daftykinsso long and thanks for all the fish21:48

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