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jadaseller wants $140 for it, but it looks really good on pictures00:00
oerhekshmm hd-ready, but it can have 8 gb00:01
qwebirc68455hey all, i'm having quite a time trying to install openjdk-8-jdk on Ubuntu 18.04, and i'm wondering if some kind soul could help me out00:04
qwebirc68455`sudo apt install openjdk-8-jdk` fails with a "Connection failed" when trying to fetch from security.ubuntu.com00:05
qwebirc68455but i'm able to ping the IP address just fine00:05
oerheksopen software & updates, change your mirror to 'main' and try again?00:07
Rojolahi00:11
RojolaI have a problem00:11
qwebirc68455@oerheks i reset my "Download from" to "Main server" instead of "Server for United States" and it still failed after an `apt update`00:11
RojolaI am on a relatively new installed Ubuntu 18.04 and just installed various things.   "postfix" automatically got installed as dependency00:12
Rojolahowever, I got the following errors:00:12
Rojolahttps://dpaste.de/g3Qc/raw00:13
Rojolawhat can I do?00:13
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Bashing-omRojola: Any additional hints ' dpkg-reconfigure postfix ' ?00:22
RojolaBashing-om: I just checked the "term.log"00:22
RojolaIt says:00:22
Rojolainstalled postfix package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 7500:22
RojolaBashing-om   # dpkg-reconfigure postfix /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: postfix is broken or not fully installed00:23
Bashing-omRojola: I have no idea of what status 75 may indicat4e :(00:24
Bashing-omRojola: ' apt install --reinstall postfix ' .00:25
Rojolaok I try it00:25
RojolaBashing-om: https://dpaste.de/mxka/raw00:26
RojolaBashing-om: https://dpaste.de/rzwV/raw00:27
Bashing-omRojola: Hummm ... " E: Internal Error, No file name for postfix:amd64" : think'n ....00:28
Rojolawe are getting somewhere!00:28
Rojolahold on, I paste it00:28
RojolaBashing-om: https://dpaste.de/1LPk/raw00:28
RojolaBashing-om: my machine's hostname is "linux"00:29
RojolaBashing-om: that's also the name I entered when configuring postfix00:29
RojolaBashing-om: is there a conflict with that?00:29
Rojolaha!00:31
RojolaBashing-om: in the "main.cf"  (postfix's config) it says:00:31
Rojolamyhostname = linux..name00:31
Rojolathat cannot work00:31
winsoffMy lightdm, on first boot, takes forever to actually pull up my window manager. It does this for both awesome and MATE, and it's upon first boot, or seemingly after I've moved my mouse around a bit.00:32
winsoffI've narrowed it down to lightdm only because it seems that every other method to launch does so basically instantaneously. Sometimes it's a dozen seconds, sometimes it's five seconds.\00:32
Bashing-omRojola: Never used postfix myself .. just do not know what it expects in the config files . maybe try and purge it and then install again of it is really needed .00:32
RojolaI solved it somehow00:33
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RojolaBashing-om: I changed "linux..name" to "linux.name"00:33
winsoffHowever, lightdm's logs say that it's launching the command only .3 seconds after I log in, so it makes no sense to me.00:33
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Bashing-omRojola: Well ! wonders never cease .. I would not have thought it for sure a config issue .00:34
Luxray5474okay so00:35
Rojolathank you Bashing-om !00:35
RojolaI am leaving now in order to reboot00:35
Luxray5474I'm in a predicament00:36
Luxray5474I'm trying to run UnrealIRCd00:36
Bashing-omRojola: You did all the work :)00:36
Luxray5474it can ONLY run in NON-ROOT00:36
Luxray5474But i need root to cd to its dir, which is in /root/00:36
Luxray5474the only two ways i can access that is using sudo cd or sudo su then cd00:37
Luxray5474sudo cd doesn't work so sudo cd00:37
Luxray5474sudo su* then cd00:37
Luxray5474but then i'm in root, and when i exit root, i'm shot back to the the default dir for the user.00:37
Luxray5474how do i start it00:43
Luxray5474I mean i know how to start, but i can't because it needs me to not have root privs.00:43
compdoc_Luxray5474, I dont know your program, but surely you only need to configure it then stay out usually?00:49
Luxray5474i'm seeing if it'll work if i move it to my unrealircd user's home dir00:50
tomreynLuxray5474: you should most definitely not run this or any irc server as root. just create a new user with a home directory, and move the files there, and (recursively) chown them to the new user.01:04
Luxray5474i did that now01:05
tomreynalso, i'm not sure what the state of unrealircd is nowadays, but last time i looked at it it didnt look very actively developed. you might want to use a software that is.01:06
tomreynokay, i was wrong there, it looks active01:07
Luxray5474tomreyn: this is driving me nuts. I have to be in root to run 'make' successfully in order to install unrealircd.01:10
Luxray5474but, i have to not be root when i run it.01:11
Luxray5474but, I have to be the same user that installed it to run it.01:11
tomreynLuxray5474: you should probbaly be on the unrealircd support channel to ask about this.01:11
Luxray5474but, being root is different from being the same user.01:11
tomreynit's not really an ubuntu issue.01:11
Luxray5474oops lol01:11
Luxray5474i'll ask there, thanks for the correction :P01:11
qwebirc32244Hey guys01:14
qwebirc32244Is anyone willing to take a stab at a network problem I've been having01:15
tomreynqwebirc32244: do you have some more details?01:15
Vic2I apologize, as this is probably not the place to ask but ... can anyone tell me where to obtain libdvdcss or what it has been replaced by?  it seems that the videolan repository does not have it ...01:16
Vic2Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:16
Vic2This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:16
Vic2is only available from another source01:16
qwebirc32244I have this - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rpKsF322jj/01:16
qwebirc32244Also, Vic2, that happened to me with libssl1.1, I had to download the debian from sourceforge or something01:17
tomreynVic2: sudo apt install libdvd-pkg01:17
qwebirc32244So for my network problem, if you scroll down to the bottom of the the paste, there's a dmesg output where wlp2s0 keeps deathenticating01:18
Vic2tomreyn: E: Unable to locate package libdvd-pkg01:18
qwebirc32244deauthenticating* - And that keeps causing me to disconnect and then I have to restart network-manager to connect again01:19
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tomreyn!info libdvd-pkg01:20
ubottulibdvd-pkg (source: libdvd-pkg): DVD-Video playing library - installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1-1 (bionic), package size 14 kB, installed size 79 kB01:20
tomreynVic2: "component multiverse", be sure you have this activated01:20
qwebirc32244Vic2: I googled the package name and I think you should run this - deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ / (from https://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html)01:20
qwebirc32244If what tomyren said didn't work01:21
Vic2tomreyn: sorry no clue what "component multiverse" is ... will you please elaborate?01:23
nacc!components | Vic201:23
ubottuVic2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.01:23
Vic2and how would I make sure that it is 'activated' ? tomreyn01:24
tomreynVic2: did you read the page nacc / ubottu pointed you to?01:26
tomreynsee "Managing Repositories"01:27
tomreynqwebirc32244: i'm probably not the best candidate to help you diagnose this. :-/01:27
qwebirc32244It's ok, in the meantime I'm learning a lot from those links you made ubottu post01:28
tomreynqwebirc32244: have you checked how well your hardware is supposed to be supported? are oyu running a mainline kernel in hopes to make it work?01:29
qwebirc32244I have 4.17 right now, have not yet upgraded to 4.17.201:29
qwebirc32244And I know it can't be purely a hardware issue because I dual boot windows and windows does not have this problem01:29
tomreynok, i didnt suggest it was a hardware issue, i'm just just wondering whether this hardware is known to be well supported on linux or not.01:30
Vic2Ok, thanks for the links ... I knew the basics but not the specifics ... in short, multiverse is activated.01:31
tomreynVic2: then you should be able to install the package01:31
tomreynqwebirc32244: something i'd try is to set iwlmvm's power_scheme to active (1) for a while just to see whether ti fixes it.01:32
Vic2tomreyn: I agree, I should be able to ... let me repeat the steps again just in case ...01:33
tomreynVic2: sudo apt update && sudo apt install libdvd-pkg01:33
archpcfagAnybody knows a good command line to install Java / check if Java is installed?01:35
archpcfagHi all. How is everything down here.01:35
archpcfagCan anybody read me?01:36
Vic2tomreyn:  I used sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg the first time and your command line the second time ... same result....01:37
Vic2E: Unable to locate package libdvd-pkg01:37
tomreynVic2: maybe something's still amiss on your aptt repositories: apt-cache policy | nc termbin.com 999901:38
Vic2let me note that I am using 14.04 LTS01:38
tomreynVic2: oh, that's a good point. this package is indeed not available there.01:39
Vic2compaq@HP-Compaq-8000:~$ apt-cache policy | nc termbin.com 999901:39
Vic2http://termbin.com/zq5u01:39
tomreynhttps://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libdvd-pkg01:39
Bashing-omtomreyn: Vic2 14.04 .. maybe libdvdread4 ??01:40
tomreyn!dvd01:40
ubottuUbuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:40
Vic2Sorry I didn't mention that earlier.  So any packages for 14.04 which include libdvdcss01:40
tomreynso, yes, what Bashing-om says: sudo apt-get install libdvdread401:40
Vic2ok ty Bashing-om will try that.01:40
Vic2Hmm, seems I already have it ...01:41
Vic2the problem is that Handbrake is complaining ...01:41
Bashing-omVic2: tomreyn Now try ' sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ' .01:43
tomreynwhats the exact error message?01:43
tomreynindeed, this nees to be done as discussed on the wiki01:44
Vic2Bashing-om Yes, that helped.01:46
tomreynVic2: now for the bad news. your ubuntu release will loose support in ~ 10 months01:48
Vic2tomreyn ... maybe I misunderstood what Handbrake is supposed to do ?  I have a directory (VIDEO_TS) which has .vob .bup and .ifo files ... and seemingly Handbrake is the tool to turn this into a viewable video file ... but this is not working.  Any suggestions?01:49
Vic2and yes tomreyn, I know I need to upgrade ... thanks for the reminder. :)01:49
tomreynVic2: i don't think i ever used handbrake, and the last time i touched optical media is years ago.01:50
Kali_Yugawhat is the "UVM" process and the "bioset" process I'm seeing? both running under root... I don't think I have seen them before. can't find much on google either01:51
tomreynVic2: try this? https://handbrake.fr/docs/en/latest/introduction/quick-start.html01:52
tomreynKali_Yuga: UVM is a virtual memory manager, initially developed for openbsd01:55
melanihi01:56
Kali_Yugatomreyn: ok you know anything about the bioset process because I have so many of them01:56
Kali_Yugahttps://www.xup.in/xtrans.php?up=YToxOntpOjA7YToxMjp7aTowO3M6ODoiNDUzNjM0NjUiO2k6MTtzOjMwOiJTY3JlZW5zaG90XzIwMTgwNjIwXzE5NTQyNy5wbmciO2k6MjtkOjAuMDI7aTozO3M6MzoicG5nIjtpOjQ7czozNjoiL2hvbWUveHVwMS9zdG9yLzIwMThfMDYvNDUzNjM0NjUueHVwIjtpOjU7czoxODoiMjEuMDYuMjAxOCAtIDAzOjU0IjtpOjY7czowOiIiO2k6NztzOjEwOiI0ZTI1NjI3ZGFkIjtpOjg7czoyMDoiMjAxOF8wNi80NTM2MzQ2NS5wbmciO2k6OTtpOjQzMztpOjEwO2k6NDMzO2k6MTE7YTowOnt9fX0=&a01:56
tomreynKali_Yuga: "bioset" is part of block device handling.01:56
Kali_Yugalbum=YTowOnt9&email=&vb=001:56
Kali_Yugathats a little long sorry01:56
Kali_Yugahttps://www1.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=4536346501:56
Vic2thanks for that tomreyn ... looks like I will need to troubleshoot with them to figure out what is going on. :(01:56
tomreynKali_Yuga: which ubuntu version and kernel version is this?01:56
Kali_Yugawrong link anyway01:56
tomreynVic2: good luck!01:57
tomreynhi melani01:57
Kali_Yuga16.04, 4.4.0-12801:57
tomreynKali_Yuga: is anything not working properly, though?01:58
Kali_Yugahttps://www1.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=45363465 <- thats why I'm asking because there so many of those01:58
Kali_YugaNo everything seems to be working as usual01:59
tomreynthen i would not concern myself with it01:59
Kali_Yugaokay guess i'm paranoid02:00
Kali_Yugabb02:00
Kali_Yugathx02:00
jerryHello02:07
VoltronDikzHi anybody could help me identify if java is well installed.02:35
VoltronDikzI have 2 jar scripts that I am unable to run.02:35
VoltronDikzThe GUI does not load up and clicked load with java8runtime02:36
VoltronDikzthank you in advance.02:36
VoltronDikzHope everybody is hydrated and lifting weights during breaks02:36
GlenKhi there.  so from my debian experimentations I know there are a number of different ways to keep your software updated.02:39
GlenKis there a canonical way to do it with ubuntu?  since I'm running the desktop version, 14.04 to be exact, what's the route I should go?02:39
GlenKthe gui thing?  apt-get?  something else?02:40
WoC-apt is sufficient, apt update || upgrade || dist-upgrade02:40
GlenKI'm not so worried about media codecs or something like that, but chrome perhaps as I may need flash for a class02:40
VoltronDikzJust wanted to verify proper version was installed via command.02:40
stack_over_flowsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:40
stack_over_flowset it as a cron job02:40
stack_over_flowelse auto update is a thing02:41
stack_over_flowsoftware updater will do it for you02:41
VoltronDikzsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade >>>> Is this it?  Basically sudo to upgrade and check.02:41
WoC-also; do-release-upgrade02:41
stack_over_flow^02:41
VoltronDikzSomewhat software updater was no go. Java not found.02:41
GlenKstack_over_flow: upgrade won't take me off 14 will it?  because I'm pretty sure I need 14 for this class I'm taking02:41
stack_over_flowno02:41
stack_over_flowit won't02:41
GlenKk, thanks02:41
sonicwinddon't do "do-release-upgrade" Glen... that WILL upgrade your 14.0402:42
FurretUberI'm having a pretty annoying issue: I'm trying to set Nautilus as the default file manager, but once I set Nautilus as default, it no longer open files. It opens only directories, .desktop files and executable files02:42
geniiI usually sudo -i and then issue: apt-get update && apt-get -y dist-upgrade && apt-get -y autoremove&& apt-get -y autoclean && sync ..if there were kernel upgrades then also add shutdown -r now02:42
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GlenKha, me, I'll probably just make a root account active as while I realize sudo has its uses, it's rather silly for my laptop02:43
FurretUberI am using Xubuntu 18.04. I think the issue is related to exo, as if I set Thunar as default again, Nautilus start to work properly02:43
stack_over_flowyus... for the kernel upgrades you must restart02:43
VoltronDikzWhat could stop a jar script from running?02:43
stack_over_flowthat's important to note02:43
Guest80687my desktop disk icons are not launching on ubuntu 18. What should I do?02:44
VoltronDikzIf Java is up to date, etc.  I checked run as ALLOW AS EXEC02:45
tomreynVoltronDikz: whats your ubuntu version, how did you install java, how are you running the jhar, and what's the output?02:48
VoltronDikz18.0402:48
GlenKso this is unity I suppose.  seems similar to the gnome thing they do these days.  I would like a list of installed apps.  and maybe open a terminal02:48
VoltronDikzOutput should be a little program with a GUI.   When selecting jar and clicking open in java 8 runtime a folder opens / no GUI02:49
GlenKbarring that I'm not sure how ctrl alt f1 will work in a vm, but lets give it a shot02:49
tomreynVoltronDikz: run it from a temrinal using java -jar /path/to/my.jar02:49
VoltronDikztomreyn      when typing that command is there any dir I should be in or from my user is fine?02:51
VoltronDikzAm still learning how to use command.02:51
VoltronDikzs02:51
GlenKis 14.04 unity?  seems very gnome like but different.  at any rate, if anyone could help me to throw a terminal launcher over on my side thingy, that would be cool02:51
tomreynGlenK: to list installed debian packages, you do, in a terminal, "dpkg -l". to list installed snapos, you do, in a terminal, "snap list"02:52
GlenKor should I just give up and do kde ubuntu or something?  maybe everyone hates unity?02:52
Guest80687My any external drive icon on desktop does not launch. I always have to open them by opening files each time. What should I do??02:53
tomreynVoltronDikz: the easiest way is to use your graphical file browser to access the directory where your jar file is, then right-click to open a temrinal there (may or ma ynot work)02:53
GlenKtomreyn:  ha, the problem with that theory is I'm seeing no way to even open a terminal.  and given it's a vm, ctrl-alt-f1 and the like takes me back to my other junk02:53
tomreyn!terminal | VoltronDikz02:53
ubottuVoltronDikz: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:53
tomreynGlenK: assign a different host key if this is virtualbox or vmware workstation/player. using the context menu key (next to the right ctrl key) tends to work well.02:55
GlenKk, got it now.  hit that little ubuntu icon thingy at the top left.  then it gives you a menu of sorts at the bottom02:55
VoltronDikztomreyn The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:  * default-jre02:56
VoltronDikz * gcj-5-jre-headless     * openjdk-8-jre-headless    * gcj-4.8-jre-headless02:56
VoltronDikz * gcj-4.9-jre-headless    * openjdk-9-jre-headless   Try: sudo apt install <selected package>02:56
VoltronDikzMissing the java...02:56
VoltronDikzI have been going nuts to make java works.02:56
tomreynGlenK: ctrl-alt-t should spawn a terminal02:57
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VoltronDikzShould I run >>> sudo apt install <selected package>02:57
Guest41589my desktop disk icons are not launching on ubuntu 18. What should I do?02:57
tomreynVoltronDikz: is this a computer with a graphical desktop?02:58
VoltronDikzMe? or Guest41589?02:58
tomreynVoltronDikz: you02:58
VoltronDikzGraph desktop I guess. Running Ubuntu 18.0402:58
tomreynVoltronDikz: ubuntu desktop, not ubuntu server, right?02:59
VoltronDikzYup.02:59
VoltronDikzDesktop.02:59
tomreynVoltronDikz: sudo apt update; sudo apt install openjdk9-jre02:59
Guest41589please give my solution please on shortcuts not working on desktop.02:59
VoltronDikzWhat would be the right command to install those packages?02:59
VoltronDikzsay I want to install again or I guess install proper these03:00
VoltronDikzThe program 'java' can be found in the following packages:  * default-jre03:00
VoltronDikz<VoltronDikz>  * gcj-5-jre-headless     * openjdk-8-jre-headless    * gcj-4.8-jre-headless03:00
VoltronDikz<VoltronDikz>  * gcj-4.9-jre-headless    * openjdk-9-jre-headless   Try: sudo apt install <selected package>03:00
VoltronDikz* default-jre       is that even a program?03:01
VoltronDikzrunning >>>> sudo apt update; sudo apt install openjdk9-jre    now.03:01
tomreynVoltronDikz: i just provided a command to install a package which provides the 'java' command. but you better use this: sudo apt update; sudo apt install default-jre03:01
VoltronDikzon it. Thanks you sir.03:01
tomreyn!paste | VoltronDikz03:02
ubottuVoltronDikz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:02
VoltronDikzroger.03:02
Guest41589please give my solution please on shortcuts not working on desktop.03:04
guivercGuest41589, please be patient waiting for a response. If someone knows the answer they'll respond.  If using Ubuntu 18.10 you should be using #ubuntu+103:04
VoltronDikztomreyn   it installed.    Do I need a reboot?03:04
tomreynVoltronDikz: no03:05
VoltronDikzLooks like V8 is still running. No update.03:05
tomreynVoltronDikz: run your jar from a terminal (using the "java -jar" command as discussed previously), and  post the oputput, and we'll have a better idea of what is not working03:06
VoltronDikzOn it.03:07
VoltronDikzTried running the java 9 command.   landed with : E: Unable to locate package openjdk9-jre03:07
VoltronDikzSomething is not having a good day in java land.03:07
VoltronDikzLet's try the command.03:07
tomreynyou are mixing up package names and commands they provide03:08
VoltronDikzSame thing. It does not find the packages.03:08
tomreynwhat is "it" and what are "the packages"?03:09
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VoltronDikzThe program 'java' can be found in the following packages:  * default-jre    * gcj-5-jre-headless   * openjdk-8-jre-headless   * gcj-4.8-jre-headless   * gcj-4.9-jre-headless    * openjdk-9-jre-headless    Try: sudo apt install <selected package>03:11
VoltronDikzfull message from terminal.03:11
tomreynVoltronDikz: when you run which command?03:12
tomreynVoltronDikz: we're not watching over your shoulder, you'll need to tell us what you typed, and what was returned03:12
VoltronDikzWhen I run exec java.   via >>>   java -jar  etc.03:13
VoltronDikzjava -jar /home/Voltron/Documents/SSE Linux/SSE_FileEnc/ssefencgui.jar03:13
VoltronDikzThat command returned >  The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:  * default-jre    * gcj-5-jre-headless   * openjdk-8-jre-headless   * gcj-4.8-jre-headless   * gcj-4.9-jre-headless    * openjdk-9-jre-headless    Try: sudo apt install <selected package>03:14
VoltronDikzdoing my best tomreyn.03:14
tomreynokay, so apparently the java package installation did not succeed. please show the output of: dpkg -l '*openjdk*' '*java*' | grep ^i | nc termbin.com 999903:15
VoltronDikzJesus. That is quite a line. On it.03:17
Rojolahi03:17
Rojoladoes anyone else experience problems installing Apache2 on Ubuntu 18.04 ?03:18
RojolaI get these errors:03:18
Rojolahttps://filebin.net/tadb529i0baujr8s03:18
VoltronDikzCommand results in >>> http://termbin.com/jvcf03:18
Rojolahere is the entire paste (in black-and-white)03:19
Rojolahttps://dpaste.de/Oye2/raw03:19
Rojolathe screenshots (see 1st link) are easier to understand03:19
tomreynVoltronDikz: when you type "which java", what does it return?03:20
VoltronDikzwhere was I supposed to type wich java?03:21
VoltronDikzYou lost me there03:21
tomreynVoltronDikz: on a terminal window03:22
tomreynRojola: indeed, text is preferred. do what it said here: 'Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.'03:23
VoltronDikztyped : which java     nothing returns.03:24
Rojolatomreyn, thank you for talking with me!  I already looked at "systemctl status apache2.service".03:25
Rojolatomreyn, the output is similar to the initial error message03:25
Rojola"journalctl -xe" does not say anything about apache03:25
Rojolatomreyn, https://dpaste.de/bLfx/raw03:25
RojolaI guess this is the reason:03:26
RojolaAH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message03:26
VoltronDikztomreyn.    No biggie. I am giving up.     It should not be this complicated to install java.03:28
VoltronDikzI am moving on. I'll eventually do something else.03:28
tomreynVoltronDikz: hmm thats strange, since you have the openjdk-8-jre-headless package installed which provides this command.03:28
VoltronDikzI know. Look something is really wrong. Something and java went really bad.03:28
VoltronDikzWould deinstall all java and reboot fresh a good idea?03:29
VoltronDikzI just don't want to suck you into this. It has been hell for weeks now.03:29
VoltronDikzI need those lil apps and I can't make them work. The java is the main issue.03:29
tomreynVoltronDikz: you could try this. if, for example, you manually moved files around previously this would explain it.03:29
VoltronDikzNo files moved. No java moved. I don't really understand stuff. So I am doin basic things. Other folks tried helping me but in vain. I also suspect some nice folks gave me wrong commands to destroy my own system.03:30
VoltronDikzHad a bunch of hostile folks at spotchat that I thing where just trolls03:31
tomreynVoltronDikz: here's how you can try to clean up: sudo apt purge openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless openjdk-9-jdk ca-certificates-java java-common03:31
tomreynand once it's all gone you do: sudo apt install default-jre03:32
VoltronDikzon it.03:33
tomreynRojola: maybe, it looks like it's a non critical warning, but you should be setting the servername03:35
Rojolatomreyn, to me it looks like errors03:36
Rojolatomreyn, and apache is not running03:36
tomreynRojola: i'm going to run the same command on a fresh install shortly03:37
Rojolatomreyn, in my /etc/hosts is the following server name set:03:37
Rojola127.0.0.1       localhost03:37
Rojola127.0.1.1       linux03:37
tomreynthats fine with me03:38
tomreyn#03:38
VoltronDikzYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS03:39
VoltronDikzYes!03:39
VoltronDikzAMEN to tomreyn03:39
VoltronDikzVIIIIIIIIIIICTORY!03:39
VoltronDikzHow do we send beer to you?03:39
VoltronDikzKING OF JAVA INSTALL >>> tomreyn03:40
VoltronDikzThank you so much mate. It works.   I need to figure out how to create "launcher from these scripts now.03:40
VoltronDikzAny idea how to do that?03:40
VoltronDikzIssue is to treat the jar as a program...  Thinking how but no real clue.03:41
tomreynVoltronDikz: i'm not too great with desktop stuff.03:41
tomreynyou'll need to create a custom launcher (somehow) which runs the "java -jar /path/to/your/file.jar" (where "/path/to/your/" is the file system path to your jar file, and "file.jar" is your JAR file)-03:43
tomreynRojola: i got a very similar result03:43
Rojolatomreyn, I believe I know a solution but i must test it first03:43
Rojolatomreyn, solved03:44
Rojolatomreyn, do you want me to guide you through?03:44
VoltronDikzbasically the same command we entered in terminal. Man you genius.03:44
tomreynRojola: my output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bdfRhDttm7/03:45
Rojolatomreyn, what I did is:03:45
RojolaI opened /etc/apache/apache2.conf and added:03:45
RojolaServerName localhost03:46
Rojola^ above the inclusion of the vhosts03:46
Rojolathen I ran:03:46
Rojolaapt purge apache203:46
Rojolaapt install apache203:46
Rojolathen it worked....03:46
Rojolanote: the "apache2.conf" got overridden by a totally different config-file but now it works03:46
tomreynhmm, i'm not sure i 'm getting why this woud have fixed apache not starting. but i'm glad it works for you.03:49
VoltronDikzHey tomreyn... entering the java -jar command in the launcher did not work.  Possibly bc java has decided to kill us lately.03:49
VoltronDikzAny "" or else I should be using while entering the command inside a launcher?03:49
tomreynreviewing my log i see it starts successfully a couple times during the installation, also priting the servername warning, but then suddenly fails to start.03:50
tomreynVoltronDikz: does it work on a temrinal, though?03:50
tomreynalways try that, first03:50
tomreyntheissue with launchers and desktops is they often dont tell you that and moreover why something failed.03:51
tomreynso better make sure it's actually working on a terminal first, then do the launcher03:52
VoltronDikzlaunchers don't.   Look you made it.   It works. The launcher is a luxury I can pass on.03:54
VoltronDikzThank you so much. Going to work on that app.03:54
VoltronDikzWhere do i send you the beer?03:54
tomreynRojola: indeed, it works after purge + reinstall of the apache2 pacjage here, too. i guess i'd call this a bug.03:55
tomreynVoltronDikz: your local linux folks is fine. ;)03:55
Rojolatomreyn, postfix also had a bug03:55
RojolaI had to change the hostname in main.cf before it worked03:56
VoltronDikzhttps://cdn.totalfratmove.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/b44533b18b30e3b1fc45a2b3f1e0ed40-714x400.jpeg03:56
VoltronDikzThe beer!03:56
VoltronDikzThanks tomreyn. really.03:56
VoltronDikzWish you were really local i would spoil you right now.03:56
tomreyn:) welcome VoltronDikz03:56
VoltronDikzkilling it bro!03:56
VoltronDikzGnite. Will be back.03:57
VoltronDikzTop notch folks here.03:57
VoltronDikz5stars03:57
VoltronDikz;-)03:57
tomreynsee you!03:57
VoltronDikzSame.03:57
tomreynRojola: hmm, fresh install, too?03:57
tomreyndid oyu just apt install postfix?03:57
Rojolatomreyn, a fresh install, and I installed "trinity desktop"  (KDE3 fork)03:58
Rojolapostfix got installed along with it03:58
RojolaI was prompted to provide my hostname, which I did03:58
Rojolapostfix added ..name to it and entered it into the main.cf file03:58
tomreynRojola: which configuration template did you choose for postfix? the default is "internet site"03:58
Rojolaso the hostname was "linux..name" which could not work03:58
Rojolatomreyn, I used the configuration template "local"03:59
Rojolaso, end of the story, I had to change "linux..name" to "linux.name" manually in "main.cf"03:59
Rojolatomreyn, from:03:59
Rojolamyhostname = linux..name03:59
Rojolato:03:59
Rojolamyhostname = linux.name03:59
Rojolain "/etc/postfix/main.cf"04:00
Rojolaagain, template was "local"  (_not_ internet site)04:00
tomreynRojola: can't seem to reproduce this here. do you have a search domain configured in /etc/resolv.conf ?04:02
Rojolatomreyn, nope04:03
Rojolatomreyn, did you install trinity desktop?04:03
tomreynRojola: no04:04
tomreynbut i dont see how this would be related04:04
Rojolabut I really had this issue04:06
RojolaI entered "linux" as name when postfix promted me during the installation04:06
Rojolaand I've chosen "Local"04:06
Rojolaand my "main.cf" ended up with "linux..name" as myhostname04:06
Rojolathe double .. was the issue04:07
tomreyni dont doubt that you ran into this issue. i assume it was a temporary local dns misonfiguration which caused it, though.04:07
Rojolai see04:07
tomreyni.e. your dhcpü server sending a search domain of "..name"04:07
Rojolathat makes sense04:08
Rojolawell, I mean, it doesn't,  but it would explain why postfix got confused04:08
* tomreyn sleep, ttyl04:09
Rojolagood night tomreyn04:10
shwouchkHi04:11
shwouchkI can't build dkms modules on 1804. Tries for spl, zfs, and nvidia-headless-390, with both the standard as well as `lowlatency`kernels (4.15.0-23). Every time it appears to hang (after the message `building initial module for X`, nothing appears to happen for a while, at least until I `pkill dkms`. If I look at resource usage, it is practically 0 (in terms of CPU, at least). Help?04:15
bigMouthCommiedoes anyone understand why gnome might be using 50% of my cpu all the time?04:40
bigMouthCommiegnome-shell is legit using half my laptops cpu.04:40
lotuspsychjebigMouthCommie: gnome3 is known for resource/heavy taker overall04:44
bigMouthCommieis there a way to optimize it lotuspsychje04:45
lotuspsychjebigMouthCommie: yes, tweak your system overall with: bleachbit,preload,swappiness,trim down your starting services,add more ram,install and ssd,..04:45
bigMouthCommiewell i can't swap out my components on this POS. idk how to breach the case...04:47
bigMouthCommiebut i can look at starting svcs and such... it's just that gnome-shell legit takes 50% of my cpu04:47
bigMouthCommietop04:47
bigMouthCommiemischan04:47
bigMouthCommie 1359 user      20   0 3453668 256272  40916 R  64.8  6.5   2745:38 gnome-shell04:48
bigMouthCommie64% of my cpu04:48
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lotuspsychjebigMouthCommie: what are your system specs mate?04:51
bigMouthCommieis there an easy way to pull them for you in ubuntu 18.04?04:52
lotuspsychjebigMouthCommie: hastebin.com an inxi -F04:53
bigMouthCommiehttps://hastebin.com/buquwinuda.sql04:57
bigMouthCommiebtw, pastebinit is broken. lol.04:57
lotuspsychjebigMouthCommie: ok intel celeron with intel graphics is not really a monster, for gnome304:58
bigMouthCommiei just want video framerates not to drop in the browser04:58
bigMouthCommiealready installed gnome-flashback, about to switch, i think04:59
lotuspsychjebigMouthCommie: consider a xubuntu/lubuntu as test?04:59
bigMouthCommieok, well the thing is i like super to start the search, and i want to be able to use kdeconnect. do you know if those are supported on either of them?05:01
enduserbigMouthCommie you could try ubuntu mate I think it has the super key launcher, although you might have to play around with the mate tweak tool to get it (advanced menu) and as far as kde connect I could be wrong but I think as long as you install the kdeconnect package you should be able to use it also the tweak tool ubuntu mate has allows you to take a lot of load off your system05:10
lotuspsychjeenduser: +105:12
bigMouthCommiethank you enduser05:17
Remboamd64-microcode (2.20131007.1+really20130710.1 => 3.20180524.1~ubuntu0.14.04.1) does this patch required reboot?05:20
lotuspsychjeRembo: best with drivers add, take a quick reboot05:22
tony__help05:29
tony__connect05:35
valiBmorning05:44
SuperLagAm I crazy for thinking I can still have sharp and clear fonts with a 32" screen @ 4K resolution?05:52
SuperLagI have scaling set to 200%05:52
SuperLagthat's probably part of it, I'm sure... but I don't know if it's possible to set it at a custom value05:53
SuperLagI'm on an Intel NUC, and I think the i915 driver is the one in use.05:54
lotuspsychjeSuperLag: perhaps take a look into dconf-editor, it might have some screen options there06:00
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valiSuperLag: your crazy06:04
SuperLagvali: how come? :)06:04
valijust so06:07
valithinking you can have nice behaving drivers & tools.06:07
valiI can make this kind of crap work ok even on windows.06:08
valis/can/can't/g06:08
valiwell..had to try..06:08
SuperLag:)06:10
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pinkoshi is anyone running a ryzen 5 2400g machine?06:22
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klarkklhi, i installed xubuntu and neither lightdm nor gdm can get to the login screen. sddm works. lightdm can't bring up the login screen but I could use a tty to see if there's any useful log but nothing. gdm freezes the entire computer. Has anyone run into this problem?06:26
zenofpythonI am trying to be sure I have everything right. I have a domain and would like go to www.domain.com to see content displayed. I have setup hostname from my vps and a record cloudflare but am not sure all is done correctly after several youtubes i can’t get it to work what am i doing wrong? Please see content of each relevant /etc/ files edited if am making a mistake http://pastebin.centos.org/858731/56172715/06:32
klarkkldoes anyone know why abduco is missing from 18.04's repositories? it was in the repos of the previous releases.06:35
ducassezenofpython: which os release is this?06:36
zenofpythoncentos06:36
ducassezenofpython: so, why ask here?06:36
csierra_Is it possible to have mpd on one system (my fileserver) and use an mpd client (ncmpcpp) on another system (my desktop) to play music on that system (the desktop)?06:36
zenofpythonducasse: /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname are same everywhere right/ centos people wouldn’t help06:37
ducassecsierra_: mpd will play the music on the system mpd is running on06:37
csierra_ah ok. thanks ducasse06:38
ducassezenofpython: well, we only support ubuntu.06:38
osa1I installed a bunch of packages yesterday and it seems like they somehow caused problems in chromium; it started flickering. is there a way to see changes done yesterday so that I can revert?06:38
osa1this is Xubuntu 18.0406:39
ducasseosa1: see /var/log/apt/history.log06:39
zenofpythonducasse: no problem racism is everywhere… white don’t support blacks - humans, ubuntu don’t support centos - OSes, God don’t support Devil - Supernatural… Live is doomed!06:41
ducassezenofpython: yeah, whatever. try #centos again06:48
osa1ducasse: thanks. I see some wayland-related packages, is is possible that I've switched to wayland by accident? do you know how do check this?06:53
ducasseosa1: if you're using xfce that doesn't support wayland06:55
herrahi. if i want to mount new disk to /home/user/. how should i procede?06:55
herrai want to preserve all files.06:56
ducasse!movehome | herra07:00
ubottuherra: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving07:00
herraubottu: ty very much07:05
ubottuherra: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:05
herraducasse: ty very much07:06
ducasseherra: np07:06
TomyWorkI'm trying to install ike-qtgui on trusty and I get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!  ipsec-tools"07:06
TomyWorkthat's the only one with "sec" in its name... kinda fishy :)07:06
TomyWorkthe only dependency*07:07
qwebirc64322Anyone help me for GUI interface for Ubuntu 18.0407:09
qwebirc64322If possible, offline app07:09
TomyWorkseeing as you use a browser irc client, you already have a gui working. what is your problem exactly?07:09
qwebirc64322I am new to this, so i am not able to setup the irc client.07:10
TomyWorkoh you want an irc client07:10
TomyWorktry hexchat07:10
qwebirc64322Thank you <TommyWork>07:11
pinkoshi, anyone running darktable on a Ryzen 5 2400g ?07:11
TomyWorkand my issue was solved by a simple "apt-get update" -_-07:16
AnthaasEvery so often when I log in, my terminals don't give me a prompt, only a flashing block cursor.07:28
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AnthaasThis is even the case in TTYs07:28
V7Hey all07:31
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V7Ubuntu 18.0407:31
V7Directory exists in /mnt/somedir, but /etc/fstab with "/dev/sda1 /mnt/somedir ntfs-3g..." gives "ntfs-rg-mount: bad mount point "/mnt/somedir": No such file or directory07:32
V7Although, "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/somedir" works well07:32
memphistoV7: have you tried manually mounting it07:53
jsqkldhfhi,07:54
jsqkldhfwhy is Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS supported until Apr 201907:54
jsqkldhfwhereas Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS is support until HWE Aug 2016 ?07:55
jsqkldhf(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases)07:55
memphistojsqkldhf: https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life07:56
ducassejsqkldhf: the hwe kernels are only supported for a limited time07:56
jsqkldhfwhat's 14.04.2 LTS HWE btw? i never heard of it07:58
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lotuspsychje!hwe | jsqkldhf07:58
ubottujsqkldhf: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack07:58
lotuspsychjejsqkldhf: its best to keep your system up to date at all times, meaning also for point releases07:59
osa1is this channel logged? I'm looking for a file name someone showed me about an hour ago07:59
osa1lost my chat history07:59
lotuspsychje!logs | osa107:59
ubottuosa1: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/07:59
osa1thanks08:00
jsqkldhflotuspsychje: I personnally have Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS08:00
jsqkldhfwhich is supported until 201908:00
ducasseosa1: /var/log/apt/history.log08:00
jsqkldhfwhat is the recommended way to upgrade?08:00
osa1ducasse: thanks :)08:00
jsqkldhfshould I format my server and reinstall a new Ubuntu 18.04 LTS?08:01
ducasseosa1: yw :)08:01
jsqkldhfor is there a easier way to do it?08:01
lotuspsychje!upgrade | jsqkldhf08:01
ubottujsqkldhf: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade08:01
osa1ducasse: I can't easily copy package names from this file to `apt remove` command, any tips?08:02
lotuspsychjejsqkldhf: i think you confuse alot of things, update/upgrade/release upgrade08:02
lotuspsychjejsqkldhf: if you want to stay on 14.04 update system to 14.04.508:03
jsqkldhflotuspsychje: what are the diff btween update/upgrade/release upgrade08:03
lotuspsychjejsqkldhf: if you want to goto 18.04 you will need to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 first08:03
ducasseosa1: not really, other than running it through sed or something08:03
jsqkldhfwhat is update and upgrade and release upgrade?08:04
jsqkldhf14.04 to 16.04 is a "release upgrade" right?08:04
lotuspsychjejsqkldhf: yes and an LTS release upgrade08:04
lotuspsychjejsqkldhf: updating means, you keep your packages up to date to latest on your current ubuntu version08:05
lotuspsychjejsqkldhf: perhaps you can consider enabling unnattended upgrades, aka automatic updating of your system08:06
LopeDoes anyone know how to `startx` (or whatever you need to do to start a full KDE-plasma DE session) over SSH? I've got X11 forwarding setup, and I can run firefox as the user or as root remotely with it displaying on the client. But when I `startx` as the user it says "/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg.wrap: Only console users are allowed to run the X server" if I `startx` as root it crashes: "Xorg: ../../../../dix/privates.c:385: dixRegisterPrivateKey:08:07
LopeAssertion `!global_keys[type].created' failed."08:07
LopeI have "X11DisplayOffset 10" in sshd_config (and have restarted SSH since changing the config)08:08
caxxoncelloHi everybody!08:13
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?08:14
ducasseLope: 'startx' is used to run a *local* x server08:15
Lopeducasse: wow, that's deep. Never knew that. Thanks.08:16
Lopestartkde is what I was looking for.08:16
caxxoncelloIs it common that ubuntu can never format usb pen drive? I tried on 16.04 across multiple computers and with multiple pen drives of different manufacturers08:16
ducasseLope: if you want the clients to display remotely, start your x server, ssh to the other system and run them08:16
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: not common, no but depends of your stick is broken, or the tools you use to format?08:16
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: gparted is very usefull to format, is that what you want to do?08:17
caxxoncelloI was thinking about it was a common bug, because I tried to format different pen drives on different computers in a lot of time frame.08:17
caxxoncellogparted usually works08:18
caxxoncellobut the embedded "Disks" software of ubuntu always crashes08:18
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: any errors you get?08:18
caxxoncellocontacted you in private08:19
lotuspsychje!pm08:19
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.08:19
caxxoncellook08:19
caxxoncellothe program crashes, i get the error report08:19
caxxoncellostack trace i guess08:19
caxxoncellobut no "human" error08:19
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: try to hastebin us the error, or check syslog at same time, or tail -f /var/log/syslog in realtime08:20
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: also from wich format to wich format do you try to wipe? fat32 to ntfs for example/08:21
caxxoncellook, at the moment i can not, but i will come back when i am at my computer08:21
caxxoncellothe pendrive is usually a macos partition08:21
caxxoncellomaybe is this the error08:21
caxxoncelloi try to put it fat3208:21
caxxoncellobut with no success08:21
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: try to find out next time, wich format your usb is originally08:22
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: some devices cant format to another format layout08:22
caxxoncellookay08:22
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: if gparted cant do it properly, something is going or hardware broken08:23
caxxoncellogparted usually works08:24
caxxoncelloin fact i use it08:24
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: you can also try running disk-tool from terminal, to see usefull errors on it08:25
caxxoncellothat's great08:26
caxxoncelloi never thought about it08:26
lotuspsychjecaxxoncello: good luck on it, if you cant find it, come back to us ok08:27
caxxoncellothank you!08:28
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sadoHello :)08:44
sadoCan I instal in WSL from a official extracted iso like 18.04 ?08:46
Saviqpopey: this looks like a spam bot https://community.ubuntu.com/u/brendakshi - or *almost* at least08:57
popeyDone08:59
steve_guys, i have a server B behind proxy server A, where A is connected to internet but B is behind firewall and is only allowed to connect to A. Is there anyway i can install packages for B?09:01
sadoyeah you can make a trigger with a secure tunnel09:02
CalicoFlowsI have an external monitor connected to my laptop, can I create a separate virtual desktop and assign it to it?09:08
CalicoFlows(I am on KDE if that makes a difference)09:09
ducasseCalicoFlows: try asking in #kubuntu09:12
CalicoFlowsDo you know if it could be done though?09:13
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ducasseCalicoFlows: i'm not sure, hence my suggestion09:14
ducasseCalicoFlows: i think the desktop on one screen follows the other(s), though09:16
CalicoFlowsI tend to find ancient answers on Google, but there only seems to be work around solutions, none that are easy to setup. I'd rather continue moving windows around... I can't risk messing with my x server and whatnot09:20
CalicoFlowsthnx09:20
matmal01Hi there, I'd like to set one keyboard to be US layout and all others to be GB. On another distro I did this with config files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ that match with `MatchProduct`. In Ubuntu 16.04 this isn't working, though Xorg.0.log shows that Xorg configures my US keyboard as I expect, the keyboard layout ends up as GB anyway and I have to use `setxkbmap us` to force all keyboards to US.09:43
matmal01Does anyone know of some daemon or default setting that might be reverting the Xorg settings?09:44
sylarioHi. I am Using tilmix with ZSH and the scrollback does not work. It's like some invisible command was non stop making me return at the prompt09:55
sylario*tilix09:55
sylarioAnd if I start a GUI softare scrolling works again until I close it09:56
boredtodeathWhat sorta software do you use for video grabbers? OBS Studio should be allright or it lacks some userspace feature ?09:56
boredtodeathgot an 0438:ac14 Advanced Micro Devices "notonlytv LV5HD" grabber09:57
JontaOBS10:01
boredtodeathit recognizes my camera but I couldn't find the video grabber10:01
boredtodeathmaybe it creates a /dev/ device gonna check10:02
boredtodeathnope10:03
boredtodeathAMD Cali TV card10:07
boredtodeathhttp://termbin.com/zp2x10:07
Triffid_Hunterboredtodeath: google says you need the dvb-usb-af9015 kernel driver10:07
andreascan you help me10:09
andreasto install10:09
andreasa program?10:09
boredtodeathTriffid_Hunter, the package for this firmware is in the repo?10:09
Jonta!ask | andreas10:10
boredtodeathit does sound like it's for a different chipset ,but I might be wrong10:10
ubottuandreas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:10
andreashttps://github.com/camrein/EzGraver10:10
andreasthis program10:10
andreas:/10:10
Jonta!enter10:10
ubottuPlease try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.10:10
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Jontaandreas: Ask your question here in the channel10:17
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luxioWhen I use -S on git commits to sign using GPG, it opens a dialog box within GNOME that asks for my password and blocks the rest of the screen. The problem is, my password is in a password manager and I can't get to the password manager if the screen's blocked. Is there a way to get it to ask me for the password inside of the terminal?10:19
u0_a134hello10:20
JontaHi10:20
u0_a134leave10:20
Jonta/part10:20
Triffid_Hunterluxio: https://git-scm.com/docs/gitcredentials might be relevant10:22
* XxX4LON3XxX hello gays10:23
Truk_hello i want to test if a string contains a substring10:25
* XxX4LON3XxX gays10:25
Truk_https://pastebin.com/uEk4JTPs10:25
TimeDoctor!ops10:25
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax10:25
JontaTruk_: Doesn't look like the best of error messages10:26
DalekSecXxX4LON3XxX: Please quit playing around, this is a support channel.10:26
Truk_yes it's a test10:26
JontaAnd is probably better suited to a different channel10:26
JontaStill10:26
Truk_but it says the two strings are different10:27
Truk_whereas they are the same10:27
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JontaWhat strings?10:27
Jonta2 and 9 differ10:27
Truk_"${CI_JOB_NAME/services}" and "$CI_JOB_NAME"10:27
Truk_when CI_JOB_NAME="deploy:test"10:28
Truk_"${CI_JOB_NAME/services}" = "deploy:test" too10:28
JontaYou're running 2 ifs10:28
JontaNot an if/else10:28
Truk_yes, it's a test10:29
Jonta10:29
JontaAgain: Probably better suited for a different channel10:29
JontaAnd I don't understand your question10:30
tomreynTruk_: here's a good reference for bash parameter expansion / string manipulation http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/pe10:31
BluesKajHey folks10:32
tomreynhi10:32
tomreynTruk_: there's also #bash10:32
tomreynluxio: git config --global core.askpass ""10:35
luxiotomreyn: thank you, i think that's what i was looking for10:35
uno_help10:54
jinjuuno_: wats the problem ?10:54
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ghostroothi11:32
JontaHi11:32
ghostrootje viens de rejoindre le groupe11:32
Jonta!fr11:32
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.11:33
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hfpIs there a way to access the machine via it's external IP the same way you can access it internally with localhost? Something like externalhost that would resolve to its external IPv4 so that the traffic comes "in" through the external address rather than 127.0.0.1?11:59
hfpI'm not talking about the public IP, I mean whatever IP the network card has got assigned12:00
JimBuntuhfp, Do you mean by using the assigned IP... such as 192.168.1.5 or something along those lines?12:02
strivehfp: I believe NAT does all of the work for you?12:03
strivehfp: Great question for #networking12:04
tomreynhfp: you seem to assume that every system will have no mor ethan a single ip address assigned to its single(!) (non loopback) network interface.12:05
HyP3rHello I'm searching for ubuntu server a good tool which is autoremounting samba shares. I have the problem that our Windows File Server sometimes reboots and then my mounted shares are not mounted anymore12:08
Jonta!server12:09
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server12:09
HyP3rJonta: well you could have this problem also with ubuntu (desktop) but I'll ask in server thanks12:09
sadobye12:09
HyP3rHello I'm searching for Ubuntu server a good tool which is auto remounting samba shares. I have the problem that our Windows File Server sometimes reboots and then my mounted shares are not mounted anymore. Last time I had the problem that the Ubuntu server booted and the Windows File Server was not running. In this case it would be cool if the server is retrying to mount the share consistently12:14
HyP3rOk sorry wrong channel :D12:14
plasmoduckFor some reason, my pc wont boot wthout the installer usb plugged in, gets boot error12:16
JontaWhat error?12:17
plasmoduckI just ran grub-install /dev/sda and rebooted, but stil same thing12:17
plasmoduckThe error that my Bios can't find a boot loader12:17
plasmoduckI have to have the installer usb plugged in for the computer to boot12:18
plasmoduckI suppose it acts as a kind of security fob key, but it's kinda annoying12:18
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dreadkopphey guys. i am using firefox 60.0.2 on ubuntu 18.04 . i've got two problems: 1. printer select / options window is only partially localized 2. custom paper size is not saved . any ideas how to fix that ?12:34
tomreyndreadkopp: if the papersize is a system wide issue: man papersize, edit /etc/papersize12:42
dreadkopptomreyn not sure if systemwide issue. there is not much more on that machine besides firefox and herbstluftwm :P12:43
tomreyndreadkopp: you will know when you inspect the /etc/papersize file or run paperconf12:44
tomreynif the default paper format is what you think it should be, then keep it, otherwise change it.12:44
dreadkopppaperconf returns a4. however i need some custom size for a label printer12:45
tomreynbut generally, a4 is fine?12:45
dreadkoppi guess :P12:45
tomreynread the ENVIRONMENT section of paperconf(1)12:45
dreadkoppcups has the printer configured correctly, testpage is in correct size. printing from chromium for a test works fine as well12:46
linux_noobHey all. I'm trying to wrap my head around how much free space I have on my ubuntu 16.04. Here's what I get when I type in free -h: https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPkkQWADqCY Now,  when trying to install android studio from flatpak, here's the error I'm getting: https://thepasteb.in/p/Z4hPwwZKBpgSG I'd love a pointer or two to make sense of this :)12:46
JimBuntulinux_noob, try using `df -h` instead12:47
matmal01linux_noob: `free` shows RAM usage not disk space12:48
linux_noobso when I hit df -h I get this: https://thepasteb.in/p/98hR66yJPOwTk12:48
tomreynlinux_noob: you have 8.6 GB free in /home, which is where your user operates in (desktop, documents, downloads is all there)12:49
JimBuntuI would have to re-read your other pastes, as df seems to report enough space12:49
tomreynlinux_noob: but you have 392 GB free on /, so for the ubuntu system. which is a lot more than it needs.12:50
dreadkopplinux_noob ' df -h' shows you used space per partition. 'baobab' shows a nice diagram which folders / files eat up youtr space12:50
tomreyn!files12:51
ubottuAn explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier12:51
crandonHi! I'm seeking for a brief help. I decided to use yaml formatted inventory for ansible, but no matter what I do (ie copy paste the examples from ansible docs (https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/2.5/user_guide/intro_inventory.html#hosts-and-groups) I get back a pretty much empty list when testing the file with ansible-inventory.12:53
linux_noobthis is the exact full error I'm getting when trying to install android studio https://thepasteb.in/p/lOhO33JNXy3FB I don't really understand the error - why is it saying I have only 259.6 MB available, when df -h tells me something different? df-h output:  https://thepasteb.in/p/98hR66yJPOwTk12:54
Oollinux_noob: soft want space into /var not directly /12:56
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Oolwell perhaps not only in /var12:56
linux_noobah I see, thanks for the input. What's the easiest way to get around this?12:57
Oolbut yours /var is almost full12:57
Oollinux_noob: grow /var or put all into your huge /12:58
crandonNevermind, I sorted out. It seems no 'empty' host: and vars: declarations are allowed12:58
Oolbut not so easy after install12:58
linux_noobOol: hm I see. I guess I'm stuck in a bit of a pickle here :/12:59
tomreyncrandon: most likely a question for #ansible (if it exists, have not checked)13:03
linux_noobOol: I tried du -h --max-depth 1 and I got this output: https://thepasteb.in/p/j2hlwwLW7KoHP13:09
linux_noobI'm trying to figure out how it fits in with this error: https://thepasteb.in/p/Z4hPwwZKBpgSG13:09
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rhokshi13:16
rhoksvlc crashes my whole system if I pause a video, why is that?13:17
oerheksrhoks, is this with all videos?13:17
rhoksyes13:17
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oerheksremove the ~/.config/vlc/ folder, and see if that helps?13:18
rhoksoh13:19
rhokslet me see13:19
Guest74285Hey guys, any thoughts on Ubuntu 17.0 vs 14.04?13:21
oerheksGuest74285, hi, this is technical support, not a poll channel13:22
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FurretUberI'm having a pretty annoying issue: I'm trying to set Nautilus as the default file manager, but once I set Nautilus as default, it no longer open files. It opens only directories, .desktop files and executable files. I am using Xubuntu 18.04, I think the issue is related to exo, as if I set Thunar as default again, Nautilus start to work properly13:23
Guest74285Lol... Technical support and information on technical matters bear some similarity13:23
OolGuest74285: 14.04 is the oldest LTS , 17.x are not LTS13:23
Oolbetter to look 16.04 or the new 18.0413:24
oerheksGuest74285, good, ask a technical question then13:24
Guest74285cool, can you tell me about 16.0413:24
oerheks!16.0413:25
ubottuUbuntu 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) was the 24th release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes13:25
oerhekseasy to find, releasenotes with what is new/changed13:25
Guest74285Not interested in reading....just wanna have a few insight, for instance: should I upgrade?13:26
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oerheksFurretUber, how did you set nautilus as standard?13:26
urgodfathergood morning all, would it be considered out of scope or off topic in regards to my server upgrade. Everything is working fine, I run unifi controller on it. When i do an upgrade, everything gets jacked up. I have tried various approaches, and every time same result. Im at an ends on identifying the issue and looking for direction. ##ubnt has tried to help but that too has been exhausted.13:26
blackflow"not interested in reading" ..... joins IRC ...      win.13:26
FurretUberI have opened Preferred Application and changed the default from Thunar to Nautilus13:26
urgodfathercurrently running 14.04 and trying to upgrade to 16.0413:27
Jonta!server | urgodfather13:29
ubottuurgodfather: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server13:29
leftyfburgodfather: it would be helpful to define "jacked up". There's no resolution for "jacked up".13:29
urgodfatherJonta not ubuntu serer, ubuntu desktop no gui13:30
urgodfatherits a web server13:30
urgodfatheron a VPS13:30
urgodfatherleftyfb to expand.... jacked up in a sense that the service runs and it appears that it crashes and restarts. i suspect mongodb to be part of the issue and i do know that it relies on jdk 813:31
urgodfatherone of the symptoms is that java service stops, then restarts13:31
leftyfburgodfather: you installed Ubuntu desktop on a VPS just to remove the GUI?13:32
skinuxAnyone have a clue what's up with these errors? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/0c7c1d84a0ec52b6d7667f3f9cd8ed1913:32
leftyfburgodfather: also, what's the point of running Unifi on a remote server with no access to your local equipment?13:33
oerheksFurretUber, you might need to tweak more than that, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager --- https://sites.google.com/site/installationubuntu/tweaking-ubuntu/change-default-filemanager13:33
Oolskinux: did you install nodejs ?13:33
rhoksok so removing vlc config directory didn't work oerheks. I believe I don't have hardware acceleration available plus this laptop is very slow13:36
rhoksso when I pause a video it just starts stuttering and if I have several programs running like 2 browsers plus vlc then it keeps stuttering for hours13:36
rhoksif I only have 1 browser with a couple of tabs then it only stutters for a few minutes and continues playing the video it doesn't even pause it13:37
oerheksrhoks, oke, most likely it is the specs of your videocard, see if you can give it more memory in the bios, else, try mpv as player13:37
oerheks!info mpv13:37
ubottumpv (source: mpv): video player based on MPlayer/mplayer2. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.27.2-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 952 kB, installed size 2328 kB13:37
Guest74285Have you tried a new updated version of Vlc?13:37
skinuxHmm. Seems I have borked my system by merely upgrading from 16.04 to 18.0413:38
oerhekssnap vlc gives 3.x .. still heavier than mpv13:38
rhoksapt-get install vlc should update it right13:39
Guest74285VLc has more capabilities compared to other media players, I would stick with it and find ways to resolve the issue13:40
rhoks"vlc is already newest version (2.2.6-6)"13:40
FurretUberoerheks: It didn't work, it's setting the default in exo to Nautilus that makes Nautilus don't open files. Very recently Nautilus was working fine13:41
rhoksyeah the shortcut keys for vlc video jump navigation is priceless for me13:41
rhoksI got used to it13:41
rhoksI hope mpv has that13:41
Guest74285Have you tried updating the video driver?13:41
rhoksI'm googling how to do that Guest7428513:42
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Guest74285Great ! If not, look into hardware13:43
FurretUberWhen I try to open a file with Nautilus as the default, the window blinks13:43
FurretUberAs if the window was updated13:43
urgodfatherleftyfb its a preconfigured enviro (minimal) and its sole purpose is to serve as a web server running the unifi controller software which manages our 100+ sites13:43
FurretUberoerheks: I'm wondering if Nautilus is trying to open the files, instead of using the mime defaults13:44
leftyfburgodfather: tried uninstalling Unifi, upgrading the OS the reinstalling?13:44
urgodfatheryep13:45
urgodfathertried that13:45
rhoksdoes mpv have shorcut keys though13:46
FurretUberhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/968857/xubuntu-17-10-nautilus-doesnt-open-files This is the same issue, but nothing there solved it13:46
leftyfburgodfather: when you remove unif, are you purging all of mongodb and /var/lib/unifi?13:47
urgodfatheri did not purge mongodb13:47
urgodfatherbut i did for unifi13:47
leftyfbyou should13:47
urgodfatherleftyfb ill give that a whirl, thanks for direction13:48
leftyfburgodfather: also, what did the journal messages say as to why the service is failing?13:48
urgodfatheri cannot remember off hand13:48
skinuxIs Ubuntu Mobile still available?13:48
rhoksdo I have  to add its own repository to setup mpv? oerheks13:48
skinuxI mean, the install Ubuntu on phones thing?13:48
* urgodfather would like it know about ubuntu mobile too13:48
leftyfbskinux: available, probably. Supported and still developed, no13:48
oerheksota-4 just arrived13:49
urgodfatherskinux i do know that some have created custom enviros of desktop for phones13:49
leftyfboerheks: who's still developing it?13:49
oerhekssee #ub-ports13:49
leftyfbnah :)13:49
skinuxurgodfather: I'm not sure what that means...it's either desktop or it's not.13:50
leftyfbwas slightly curious, not enough to follow it13:50
skinux#ub-ports doesn't exist13:50
leftyfbprobably ##ub-ports13:50
urgodfatherskinux it means it is desktop, on their phone13:50
oerhekshttps://ubports.com/nl_NL/blog/onze-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-rc-ota-4-14813:51
FurretUberWell, Nautilus from Debian is working (its package installed many dependencies) but now Ubuntu is updating it13:51
oerheksFurretUber, i have no clue there, is seems not that easy to find/change all mime types13:51
oerheksthat is why snaps are the future packages, even though linux should easily remove/switch applications13:52
skinuxIT doesn't sound stable yet.13:52
oerheksit exists, i am in it.13:53
oerheksoh, #ubports it is..13:53
ericusInstead of going for Ubuntu MATE I could just install MATE Desktop, right?13:53
oerheks!info mate-desktop13:53
ubottumate-desktop (source: mate-desktop): Library with common API for various MATE modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.1-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 22 kB, installed size 83 kB13:53
oerhekssure13:53
ericusor maybe XFCE, I like that13:56
oerheksadding desktops is no problem, removing one can be interesting13:57
ericusI'm gonna go for a reinstall oerheks13:58
vas_tappendagekeep getting freezage at boot Ubuntu 16.04 "reached target mail transport" then dead any ideas?13:58
oerheksvas_tappendage, is this bare metal or a VM?14:02
FurretUberI have reported a bug against Nautilus: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/177806914:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1778069 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus don't open files if set as default file manager" [Undecided,New]14:03
vas_tappendagekeep getting freezage at boot Ubuntu 16.04 "reached target mail transport" then dead any ideas?14:05
linux_noobhow can I tell if my /var is split off my root?14:06
leftyfb!repeat | vas_tappendage14:06
ubottuvas_tappendage: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/14:06
linux_noobroot directory that is14:06
oerheksvas_tappendage, not sure what tries to send a mail, disable it ? sudo update-rc.d sendmail disable14:08
mgedminlinux_noob: run 'mount' or 'df' in a terminal, see if /var is a separate row there14:08
mgedmin('mount' output has more garbage so 'df' might be better)14:09
linux_noobmgedmin: ah cool, thanks :)14:09
oerhekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/161984414:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1619844 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[Xenial] shutdown/reboot hangs at "Reached target Shutdown"" [Critical,Confirmed]14:09
oerheksoops wrong14:09
linux_noobmgedmin: so I'm facing issues with my /var being too small. When downloading android studio form flatpak, it complains that I don't have enough space in my /var. Here's the specific error message: https://thepasteb.in/p/Z4hPwwZKBpgSG14:10
mgedminyeah14:10
linux_noobmgedmin: I've asked around and I guess the solution is to merge /var with / using a resuce disk?14:10
linux_noobrescue14:11
mgedminperhaps, if you've enough free space in /14:11
linux_noobyeah I have lots of space in /14:11
mgedmin(ubuntu by default does not create a separate /var partition for this reason)14:11
rhoksler14:16
rhoksoerheks, thanks a lot man, mpv is GREAT! I can now pause the video on it with no problems. Now I just gotta learn some shortcut keys to navigate 10sec and 60sec forward or backwards14:17
rhoks:D14:17
mdihhi sorry noob question. is it possible to increase the /dev/shm size permanently? tried to search it over the net and found that it could be done through fstab. but am a bit confuse which FS to use. is it "shm"? or ?tmpfs"?14:21
oerheksrhoks, have fun!14:22
* rhoks winks and thumbs-up14:23
urgodfatherleftyfb should i do apt-get remove then purge or just purge?14:23
leftyfburgodfather: sudo apt-get remove --purge14:24
mgedmin'apt-get purge' exists as well14:24
mgedmin(and 'apt purge' for that matter)14:25
oerheksmdih, something like:  tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid,size=100M 0 0  https://askubuntu.com/questions/108135/how-do-i-set-the-default-size-of-dev-shm14:25
urgodfatherok im confused... i did a service stop but it appears to still be up14:25
urgodfatherthe webgui is still up14:26
mdihoerheks: thanks, hmm am just a bit confuse since when I invoke "df -ah", seems like some info are blank "tmpfs              -     -     -    - /dev/shm"14:26
mdihthere are info for shm though "shm             512M   71M  442M  14% /dev/shm"14:26
urgodfatherhow to drop back down from sudo -i14:27
urgodfatherto regular shell14:27
leftyfbexit14:27
leftyfbCTRL+D14:28
linux_noobso I need to merge my /var into /. What's stopping me from simply mv-ing /var to /?14:28
mgedminthere are programs that keep open files in /var (such as rsyslogd)14:28
linux_noobah okay, I guess that's why one would need a rescue disk14:29
mgedmin'fuser -vm /var' can list them all; systemd is one of them -- and you can't really shut down systemd on a working system14:29
urgodfathersubprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 12814:29
urgodfatherwhat does that mean?14:29
mgedminhey actually that's my user systemd instance, not the system one; you could shut that down presumably14:30
leftyfburgodfather: read the logs14:30
urgodfathersub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code14:30
urgodfatherwhere would the log be?14:30
ne2kI'm trying to pass a USB bluetooth device (btusb driver) through to an unprivileged container. I believe all I have to do is lxc config device add CT btusb usb vendorid=xxx productid=xxx. I've also set the mode to 666 as an article suggested it. the /dev/bus/usb node has appeared in the container, but if I run hcitool it still finds no devices and says invalid device: address family not supported14:30
ne2k found lots of references to bind mounds adn cgroups and stuff, but they seem to be old articles. the impression I get is that with LXD 3.0.0 which I have, none of that should be necessary14:30
mgedminurgodfather: pastebin the entire thing14:30
leftyfburgodfather: aren't you doing this for a company? Getting paid for it?14:30
urgodfatherthe company i work for14:30
urgodfathermy employer14:31
mgedminlinux_noob: the usual procedure for merging partitions is (1) boot a livecd or something, (2) mkdir /mnt/root /mnt/var, (3) mount your root partition on /mnt/root, (4) mount your var partition on /mnt/var14:35
mgedminlinux_noob: (5) mv /mnt/var/* /mnt/root/var/ (6) ls -la /mnt/var/ in case there are hidden files; move them over (7) edit /mnt/root/etc/fstab and comment out the /var mount line with a #14:36
mgedminlinux_noob: I forgot step (0) make sure you have good backups in case something goes wrong14:37
mgedminlinux_noob: final step is (8) umount /mnt/root; umount /mnt/var; reboot14:37
BootableUSBHi!14:38
mgedmin(my /var contains no hidden files)14:38
ne2krsync?14:38
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BootableUSBI want to create a bootable windows usb using a bootable ubuntu usb. What do I do?14:39
oerheksBootableUSB, take a read https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/create-bootable-windows-10-usb-ubuntu14:40
oerheksbut i guess that would be very slow, as it all happens in system memory, no swap available14:40
urgodfatherhttps://pastebin.com/UNPPgj8214:40
urgodfatherleftyfb did you see the pastebin14:43
leftyfburgodfather: what you posted isn't really helpful14:45
urgodfatherthats the log from /var/log/dpkg.log14:45
lahlforsOn an ubuntu server with no MTA currently installed, I'd like to arrange it so that regular users cannot send or receive mail, but UIDs < 1000 can send email to root (and only to root) which will be forwarded to an external address via a specified SMTP relay.  What MTA would make this easiest to achieve?14:45
BootableUSBoerheks: Sorry, I got disconnected. Did you say something in the interim?14:46
oerheksBootableUSB, nope14:47
BootableUSBoerheks: What would you recommend I do?14:47
leftyfblahlfors: try #ubuntu-server14:48
urgodfatherleftyfb interesting note, unifi was installed while bash... i.e. sudo -i14:48
oerheksBootableUSB, read that url and work it out?14:48
urgodfatherthats why the service was still running after i did a stop14:49
lahlforsleftyfb, thx will do14:49
BootableUSBoerheks: I've read that. It doesn't work on a bootable USB14:49
urgodfatherhad to do by sudo -i to actually kill it14:49
oerheksBootableUSB, then no go, find a windows/mac/linux pc14:49
oerhekspreferrably windows i guess :-D14:50
BootableUSB:/ Thanks14:50
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alireza<slie z.a dls>15:10
dman777I did the minimual xenial install of Ubuntu. When I plug in my usb drive, it is not recognized. Does the kernel not have all the options available? I don't see it in dmesg being connected15:10
rmah1hello... I have a question about systemd and heavy loads15:10
alirezaok15:10
Jonta!ask | rmah115:10
ubotturmah1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:10
rmah1I was running a test of rabbitmq15:11
Jonta!enter | rmah115:11
ubotturmah1: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.15:11
rmah1after a few hours of this, the system lost network connectivity.  so I explored and found that the syslog said...15:11
rmah1Stopping User manager for UID 1000...15:11
rmah1Stopped target Default15:11
rmah1then Stopped target for Basic System, Timers, Sockets, Paths15:12
rmah1all messages came from systemd15:12
mgedmindman777: do you see it in lsusb?15:12
rmah1I suspect I hit some sort of watchdog threshold15:12
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rmah1but I don't know where to look15:12
dman777mgedmin: oh wow...ya, it is there15:12
dman777Western Digital Technologies, Inc.15:12
dman777why doesn't gparted or fidsk show it?15:12
mgedmindman777: does it show up in /proc/scsi/scsi?15:13
dman777mgedmin: ye15:14
dman777yes15:14
mgedminis there a device for it in /dev?  (or /dev/disk/by-path/ or something?)15:14
dman777mgedmin: I think so http://dpaste.com/0HGQ4HK15:15
mgedminyeah, that's totally a usb drive with two partitions15:16
oerhekswhat filesystem is on that usb?15:16
mgedminif you ls -l that directory you'll discover the short name (like ../../sdb)15:16
mgedmintools like lsblk might be more convenient, but I was trying to diagnose the problem at intermediate levels15:17
mgedminso far it looks like everything's working?15:17
john_ramboHi, Is there a tool similar to SHUTTER ? Which has EDITING capabilities ?15:20
nokiomanzHi all, I installed 18.04 and upon boot I have wifi working. But wired network is not. I added a new wired connection via networkmanager. Upon reboot the device does not get dhcp address. If I do a dhclient enp1s0 i get an address. Why would that be ?15:20
Jontajohn_rambo: What's "Shutter"?15:21
john_ramboJonta, Its a screenshot tool15:21
john_ramboJonta, http://shutter-project.org/15:21
JontaWhat more tools do you need? http://shutter-project.org/wp-content/uploads/shutter-drawingtool.png15:23
k_Hey how can I set unprivledged LXC? Followed the tutorial checked my users subuid and subgid and it is in 100000-65536 range15:25
k_followed the wiki15:25
k_https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html15:25
k_I'm on a desktop version tho15:25
k_if that matters15:25
dman777orgasmix: ext415:36
dman777mgedmin: wow...there is a /dev/sdb which I think it is it15:36
dman777mgedmin: woe...it showing up now in fdisk -l. It's like I had to prime it15:39
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dman777mgedmin: why do think I had to do those steps to make it work like that?15:41
mgedminnoidea, check dmesg?15:45
tomreyndman777: none of what was suggested you could do here would have made a change, it was all informational. so apparently the device did not get detected for a long time.15:47
MibixFoxis there a good way to back up my whole linux partition to an external drive so in the event of a failure I can just restore it from the backup drive?15:50
tomreynMibixFox: lvm snapshotting, dd (gddrescue), clonezilla15:52
tomreynfile system backups are faster, though.15:53
dman777tomreyn: true15:55
tomreynMibixFox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem15:55
tomreyndman777: a common cause of erratic usb device behavior is insufficient power supply to cover all of the attached power drawing devices.15:56
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tomreynand sometimes other devices attached to the usb just misbehave and break communication to the device you are actually interested in.15:58
MibixFoxtomreyn:  clonezilla can only do imaging outside of ubuntu i thought15:58
tomreynMibixFox: you didnt state "inside of ubuntu" (which i assume means "while the system to be backed up is running"?) as a requirement previously.15:59
MibixFoxahh sorry16:00
MibixFoxi would like them to be scheduled while the system is running16:00
MibixFoxit looks like lvm might be able to?16:00
tomreyncloning partitions which contain mounted file systems will likely result in inconsistent backups. if those are journalling file systems this may or may not be too much of an issue. but it's not ideal.16:02
MibixFoxi mean in windows i could just do it with acronis very easily16:02
mgedminthere are backup tools like dejadup but I'm sadly unfamiliar with them16:03
tomreynthere is probably some commercial solution for linux which does it all for you, too. or you could build one yourself, but this requires understanding what the fallacies and pits are. i.e. research.16:05
leftyfbMibixFox: clonezilla / https://github.com/rear/rear/16:05
MibixFoxleftyfb:  clonezilla cant do snapshots inside of ubuntu16:05
leftyfbMibixFox: none of them do16:06
leftyfbMibixFox: you want a filesystem that supports snapshots16:06
leftyfbMibixFox: or just use rsync and build from scratch. It isn't that difficult16:06
leftyfbMibixFox: Also containers16:07
qwebirc93162heloo16:07
MibixFoxso basically no easy way of doing it while the server is live16:07
leftyfbMibixFox: not unless you have a filesystem that supports snapshots or the "server" is running in a container, no16:08
MibixFoxi can switch ubuntu to run on a filesystem that supports snapshots?16:10
leftyfbMibixFox: you can install ubuntu on a new filesystem. You're not switching the filesystem out from under a live OS16:10
qwebirc99992Hi I'm verify the iso I downloaded and I need a bit of help understanding the output from gpg --verify SHA256SUMS . gpg SHA256SUMS, I'm getting 'BAD signature' for ID FBB75451 gpg and key ID EFE21092, any help would be appreciated16:10
leftyfbMibixFox: the amount of effort you're putting into a raw image backup is pretty pointless given how easy it is to just start over, reinstall a list of packages and rsync over you're files/configs16:11
mgedminqwebirc99992: you need to tell gpg to use the ubuntu keyring16:11
mgedminqwebirc99992: https://github.com/mgedmin/ubuntu-images/blob/master/Makefile#L2216:11
MibixFoxwouldnt i have to redo all the groups/users/permissions too?16:12
MibixFoxi dunno as you can tell im a bit of a noob to all this16:14
qwebirc93162Hello, please, I still learn about Kubuntu, I need to install some programs for examples : ifconfig, pstree and so on. Where find information about licences of this programs on ubuntu.com?16:14
tomreynMibixFox: those can be backed up in a tar archive.16:14
qwebirc99992<mgedmin> thanks, this is the first time I've used ubuntu so I'm picking it up as I go along16:15
MibixFoxtaken me weeks to get it to what i want and im just scared to do it all over again if it crashes heh16:15
MibixFoxive seen my friend just run a script and it pretty much restores everything for him but im not quite on his level :p16:15
tomreynMibixFox: if you are worried about having to do it all again then you lack automatation or at least documentation.16:15
tomreynmore practice will help, too ;)16:16
qwebirc93162Hello, please, I still learn about Kubuntu, I need to install some programs for examples : ifconfig, pstree and so on. Where find information about licences of this programs on ubuntu.com?16:16
MibixFoxlack automation?16:18
MibixFoxshould i have been setting up a script to do everything i did as i set it up?16:18
MibixFoxhaha half the time i wasnt sure if it would work :p16:18
tomreynyou can automate a full installation, that's not too difficult. and you can then reinstall the applications you had installed, and restore file system backups you made previously.16:18
tomreynhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem16:20
naccqwebirc93162: you can find that out by looking at the upstream source, or downloding the source package and looking in debian/copyright. Possibly the software center can tell you.16:20
memcorrupthello, I've got ubuntu 14 and firefox on it, but I can't stream videos inside Firefox, is there any package that I need to install? if yes, then what packages?16:23
oerheksgrep '^' /usr/share/doc/*/copyright > i-am-going-to-read-some-hours.txt16:25
LarsNdo any of y'all know if it's possible to take a single x11 window, encode it and stream it as a live H.264 stream over http/https?16:25
LarsNuse case would be an application running on a VM, that I'd like to be able to view the display output of that window, as a web page.16:25
tomreynMibixFox: see the link above. there are more, and (dpending on your needs quite likely better) options than partition imaging to backup your running system. just backing up all the non-standard files (plus the partition table and boot sector) can get you a fully restoable backup, consuming much less space than images do, and allowing for incremental backups.16:26
tomreynmemcorrupt: what kind of videos can't you stream? by streaming, you probably mean segmented downloading and watching videos, not publishing videos?16:27
naccqwebirc93162: please don't pM16:28
qwebirc93162Hello, please, I still learn about Kubuntu, I need to install some programs for examples : ifconfig, pstree and so on. Where find information about licences of this programs on ubuntu.com?16:32
LarsNqwebirc93162: the apt command, coupled with search will help.  I believe there is a gui tool as well although I admit I've not used it.16:34
LarsNqwebirc93162: example would be:  apt search ifconfig16:34
LarsNlicenses, is I guess a slightly different question,  sorry.  I overlooked that part of the request.16:35
hehsecAy16:35
oerhekslook in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/copyright16:35
hehsecFor anyone here working with their firewall16:35
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LarsNhehsec: thanks, you beat me to it. :)16:35
hehsecI just learned a new trick that UFW has for managing rules16:35
hehsecUse ufw status numbered16:35
hehsecMakes deleting rules so much nicer16:35
LarsN... Does anyone have any clever ideas for how to stream an application's output over http/https?16:36
oerheksor check out launchpad, ifconfig would be part of nettools https://launchpad.net/net-tools16:36
JontaLarsN: What application?16:36
hehsecoerheks: fight me.16:36
LarsNJonta: in my case it would be xastir.  Which would run as an x11 app on the gui.16:37
srulican i put source and destination ip in a iptables rule? "iptables -I FORWARD -i p4p4 -o ppp+ -s 192.168.1.15 ! -d xx.xx.xx.xx,xx.xx.xx.xx -j DROP" would this rule work to block all traffic from src excluding the dest ip? cant really find online...16:37
LarsNJonta: I don't care about being able to interact with it over http.  Just displaying the output.16:38
JontaHow about just a videostream?16:38
LarsNJonta: that would be fine.  I'm16:38
LarsNI've been failing to come up with a how and or tools to do so though.16:38
JontaTwitch.tv? YouTube? Facebook?16:38
LarsNJonta: ah, I guess that could be made to work.  I hadn't thought about that.  Thanks!16:39
Jonta:)16:39
LarsNJonta: "live stream linux" actually got me a lot further than I had been16:40
Jonta^^ - Always great when solutions are much easier than imagined16:40
LarsNJonta: Looks like maybe vlc + flowplayer/jw player might get me there.16:41
coconutCan i just use any type cat-cable on a lan?16:41
MibixFoxtomreyn:  i set deja dup to backup / weekly heh16:41
LarsNJonta: goal is to connect a 2m Transceiver to a vmware server.  Do RS-232 pass through to the vm from the physical host.  Xastir will receive APRS transmissions in my area, and plot the data on a map.16:42
MibixFoxat least ill have my databases and my docker containers16:42
MibixFoxand confs16:42
Jontacoconut: Depends on requirements for distance, amongst other things16:42
LarsNJonta: I'd love to be able to view that map, in real time.  But not necessarily be connected to the VM. :)16:42
tomreynMibixFox: your databases and docker containers may well be in an inconsistent state unless you take extra precautions this way.16:42
LarsNhttps://gallery.lnoldan.com/upload/2016/08/28/20160828144445-cc032788.png (screen grab from an early prototype with a very poor antenna.)16:44
MibixFoxlol they need something that does this automatically :p16:44
MibixFoxor you know raw snapshots ;)16:44
coconutJonta are combinations of patch and crossover cables at the same network legal?16:46
JontaDunno16:46
hehsec>docker16:46
hehsec>not lxc16:46
nacccoconut: i think you want a different channel16:46
hehsecdisgusting.16:46
nacc!who | hehsec ?16:46
ubottuhehsec ?: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)16:46
hehsecnacc: ...16:47
coconutyes ok, i will...16:47
Jontacoconut: ##networking16:47
Guest70083hi16:53
JontaHi16:53
Guest70083hello every116:53
Guest70083this is my first time on irc with ubuntu newly installed , testing out it features16:53
JontaWe can read what you're writing, Guest7008316:54
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Guest70083u know i have installed os just to chat16:54
JontaWell that wasn't necessary, but now you're here: Enjoy exploring the features. :)16:55
Guest70083i thought i have install software , but its already installed.16:55
Guest70083yahooo , i am gone mad happy.16:56
Guest70083lol16:56
tomreynenjoy it then. over here, we only do support, though. so if you have a support question, you are welcome to ask. anything else should probably go elsewhere.16:56
Guest70083ok sir.16:57
Guest70083sorry for making disturbances.16:57
JontaThat's okay. We were all newbies once16:57
Guest70083i have an query , plz help16:58
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SimonNL#ubuntu-offtopic16:58
JontaA query?16:58
Guest70083apt-get not working in ubuntu mate , raspberry pi edition16:58
SimonNL^  use as link Guest7008316:58
Guest70083plz solve16:59
Jonta!textspeak16:59
Guest70083what16:59
JontaWhat's your problem more specifically, and do stop using txtspk16:59
SimonNLapt-get -h17:00
Guest70083what is txtspk17:00
JontaWriting "u" instead of "you" etc.17:00
Guest70083you know apt-get command line tool17:00
shiroininjai smell a troll17:01
Guest70083that is not working on ubuntu mate , raspberry pi version17:01
JontaWhat happens when you try?17:01
Guest70083its says error in downloading17:02
Jontahttps://paste.ubuntu.com/ - put the full command and error messages there17:03
Guest70083i am very new , plz do a favor , please find online do apt-get works on ubuntu mate raspberry pi edition17:03
Guest70083ok17:03
Guest70083brother , sorry i think i have now fixed , i updated the kernal17:04
JontaNice17:05
Guest70083it is now working , i think so17:05
Guest70083yes , it worked , thank you guys.17:06
Guest70083Jonta , do you use weechat17:07
JontaWhy do you ask?17:07
Guest70083Jonta , do you use weechat , a irc Software17:07
JontaYes17:08
Guest70083its a CUI IRC Software.17:08
Guest70083nice , can you help me in that , brother ?17:08
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Jonta#weechat can help you17:09
Guest70083ok brother17:09
Guest70083thanks , and bye17:10
qwebirc22589Heloo, I still learn Kubuntu, I have a question: where find on Ubuntu.com the licences of program which I want to install, for examples: ifconfig, pstree and so on. Maybe is prohibited to install some programs with sudo apt install xxx programs? Do you consult the licences of this programs before you install them with "sudo apt instal"? How do you do?17:10
Jontaqwebirc22589: I don't17:11
JontaIf I want to know a license, I google the software's name17:11
qwebirc22589why? All these programs is free?17:11
DimeCadmiumhttps://www.ubuntu.com/licensing qwebirc2258917:11
JontaI'm confident that the package maintainers etc.have checked17:11
Guest70083Jonta what is  #weechat :Cannot send to channe17:12
FuchsGuest70083: Fuchs #weechat q $~a sinisalo.freenode.net 1515782744  << the channel quiets unidentified users17:13
JontaYou'll need to register with Freenode17:14
Guest70083ok17:14
Guest70083so i have to come with my registered id17:14
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Jonta!nickserv | Guest7008317:15
ubottuGuest70083: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.17:15
DimeCadmiumanyone else have issues on 18.04 with your display setup being lost every time the monitors are blanked (i.e. when you lock the screen)? i have one monitor attached via HDMI (4k but running at 1080p) and one attached via DP-DVI adapter (1280x1024). when I come back after locking my screen, the DP-DVI monitor is fine but the HDMI monitor remains blank. if i turn off/on or unplug/plug back in the HDMI17:16
DimeCadmiummonitor, it comes back up but with a max res of 1280x800 until I reboot.17:16
naccDimeCadmium: sometimes; sometimes it works fine. Have you tried toggling the software state (e.g., on my thinkpad it's fn+f7)17:17
naccthat seems to restore it each time17:17
DimeCadmiumno such thing on mine17:17
JontaDid it work in previous versions of Ubuntu?17:17
naccDimeCadmium: i suppose it's possibly to do it with xrandr17:17
DimeCadmiumi had an occasional similar issue in 17.10 but now its literally every time17:17
DimeCadmiumxrandr also reports 1280x800 to be the max17:17
Guest70083Jonta did u saw my actual ip ?17:17
naccDimeCadmium: mine is still only occasional, but I also am not idle that often17:17
naccDimeCadmium: ah that's weird, seems like a probing/edid issue17:17
Guest70083sorry , Did you saw my actual URL?17:18
JontaDon't think so17:18
Guest70083Jonta , are you from Paris?17:20
DimeCadmiumnacc: yeah the next step is going to be grabbing another monitor to try with17:21
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DimeCadmiumjust odd that it works at first boot :)17:21
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naccDimeCadmium: right, i think you'll want to scroll through the logs; did you make sure your system is fully up to date?17:22
naccDimeCadmium: is the system a laptop or desktop?17:22
DimeCadmiumyep, update && upgrade'd when it did it earlier today. desktop-ish (Intel NUC7i7BNH)17:23
DimeCadmiumhttps://bpaste.net/show/051521b22861 this is in journalctl several times.17:24
naccDimeCadmium: ok, so it sees the high resolution17:25
nacc3840x216017:25
DimeCadmiumalso, just realized - if I change the primary monitor back to the HDMI monitor (because it also forgets that setting), 1920x1080 shows up as an option, but if i select it and apply it flickers the monitors but doesn't change.17:26
DimeCadmiumye indeed but even now the highest it lists is 1920x108017:26
naccthere is a way to reprobe, but i really don't recall, sorry17:27
urgodfatherhello i got a odd question. does ubuntu have a "factory reset" command?17:36
curlyears**YOW**17:36
urgodfatherthat will blow out all config mods, installed apps etc17:36
hggdhurgodfather: no, there is none17:37
urgodfatheri figured, just thought id ask17:37
oerheksyou *could* make a fresh account, that would have basic settings of all apps17:40
leftyfboerheks: only apps that save their settings in your home directory17:41
leftyfbas opposed to /opt or /etc/17:41
geniiAlternately, make a list of all installed packes, uninstall them with --purge option, then reinstall them17:41
geniipackes/packages17:41
geniiWhen you use --purge it wipes any config files in /etc or other system places17:42
genii( but not user specific ones in your home directory)17:42
urgodfathergenii i keep getting errors when i try to uninstall with purge17:43
leftyfbgenii: or so they say :)17:43
urgodfathersomething isnt jiving right17:43
phoenix_firebrdgenii: purge doesnt remove user config files?17:43
naccurgodfather: pastebin?17:43
naccphoenix_firebrd: no, purge only removes the system config files17:43
naccphoenix_firebrd: as in the stuff apt/dpkg know about17:43
naccphoenix_firebrd: user config files are generated at runtime, in contrast often17:44
geniiphoenix_firebrd: It would have to have some way of knowing about the names of all the users on the system, etc17:44
Jonah_Hello17:44
curlyearsleftyfb:   I did what you advised, I tried to do a clean install fromthe 18.04 DVD.  Problem is (no, this is not an ubuntu problem) the machine refuses to boot.   It swon't boot from a DVD that DOES boot on thi1s  l,aptop.  I t won't boolt from the aa.reADH JUNSGTA..ED VERSION O1 Hard disk , and it won't boot from a bootable USB thumb I crerated(and yes, gthe nogteboook will. boot from the USB thumb.17:45
phoenix_firebrdnacc: so if some how a corrupt config file in /home/<user>/ for kate that causes it to crash on startup, then purging the kate package wont delete the config?17:45
urgodfatherhttps://pastebin.com/UNPPgj8217:45
Jonah_Knock Knoc17:45
leftyfbcurlyears: try that again in English17:45
Guest70083Jonah17:45
naccphoenix_firebrd: correct17:45
phoenix_firebrdnacc: o_O17:45
naccphoenix_firebrd: if you want to test if it's a user config issue, create a dummy user17:45
Jonah_Knock Knock17:45
naccJonah_: please stop that.17:45
urgodfatherwho's there17:45
Jonah_Mom17:46
Guest70083Who's there?17:46
naccurgodfather: you as well.17:46
urgodfathersorry17:46
Jonah_Yes lol17:46
urgodfathernacc17:46
Guest70083ohh welcome back!17:46
Jonah_Bye!17:46
Jonah_lol17:46
naccurgodfather: that won't be the output that matters, the output from purge17:46
Guest70083nope.17:46
urgodfathernacc im reverting snapshot now17:46
phoenix_firebrdnacc: ya i know17:46
naccurgodfather: i mean it does matter, but it doesn't show the error itself17:46
Jonah_hello17:46
Guest70083So how many for today evidenced yoga, today.17:47
naccGuest70083: this is the ubuntu support channel. Do you have an ubuntu suport question?17:47
Guest70083I mean yoga Day17:47
naccGuest70083: please use #ubuntu-offtopic, if not17:47
Guest70083nope.17:47
Guest70083ok17:47
oerheksGuest70083, keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks17:47
Guest70083I understand17:48
phoenix_firebrdI am getting abuse from someone by pm, should I call the ops?17:48
naccphoenix_firebrd: i'm notifying17:48
Guest70083sorry for disturbances17:48
naccphoenix_firebrd: it's a repeat offender17:48
geniiphoenix_firebrd: When this happens please report it in #ubuntu-ops channel17:48
curlyearsleftyfb:  the damned machine keep;s dropping me into a screeen which lists a bunch of "blocks," including my storage devices.17:49
phoenix_firebrdnacc: oh17:49
leftyfbcurlyears: what?17:49
phoenix_firebrdgenii: ok17:49
hggdh/grep Howardz17:49
Jontacurlyears: "aa.reADH JUNGSTA..ED VERSION 01 Hard disk"?17:49
urgodfatherhggdh he's gone now17:50
curlyearsleftyfb: was I unclear in some way?17:50
JontaWoops scrollback17:50
hggdhyep17:50
leftyfbcurlyears: you are always unclear. Your first post today was in no way English and your last post has no context.17:50
urgodfatheri guess his feeling got hurt when he pm'd me talking trash for no reason17:50
curlyearsoh.  Soeey. an exhisting installed HD17:50
urgodfatherany op's in here17:51
leftyfbcurlyears: Step #1, get your machine to boot to some Ubuntu installer. Step #2, install Ubuntu. If you cannot get past step #1, try reading the documentation for your hardware or try #hardware.17:51
hggdhurgodfather: if you need ops, please go to #ubuntu-ops17:52
Jonah_hi17:52
naccJonah_: do you have an ubuntu support question?17:53
Jonah_how do you disconnect17:56
naccJonah_: from what?17:57
Jonta/disconnect17:57
oerhekswe don't disconnect.17:57
Jonah_thx jonta17:57
curlyearslefty:  except for tbe sequence referring to the "previously installed hard drive,, it wAS IMMENENTLY READABLE AND DECIDEDLY IN eNGLISH.  stop exagerating the "intenskty" of my errors.   I see you making errors every day17:57
Jonah_hi17:58
naccJonah_: again, do you have an ubuntu support topic?17:58
leftyfbcurlyears: sorry. I told you before, I will only respond to you asking questions in clear English.17:58
leftyfbcurlyears: if you have a support question, feel free to take your time in typing it out to make sure there aren't multiple typos and words that do not exist in the English dictionary.17:59
Jonah_hi17:59
leftyfbJonta: you've been told multiple times. This is a support channel. Please stop posting random banter.18:00
Jontacurlyears: I understand having neuropathy and problems typing, but you are dealing with people volunteering their time. Could you perhaps have someone help you with that part of it? Or look over what you type before sending? It's also a bit discouraging when questions we ask go unanswered18:02
qwebirc22589Heloo, I still learn Kubuntu, I have a question: where find on Ubuntu.com the licences of program which I want to install, for examples: ifconfig, pstree and so on. Maybe is prohibited to install some programs with sudo apt install xxx programs? Do you consult the licences of this programs before you install them with "sudo apt instal"? How do you do? With google search is at your own risk.18:04
curlyearsleftyfb: n you cN BE VY HELPFUL,.JUT *GEEZE* you can be a real bitch, you know.  Do you demand your money back when you discover a  misspelling in a published book?  Get the hell off it, dewd.  I *AM* trying to improve my typing, and I *AM* improving considerably18:04
Jonta!repeat | qwebirc2258918:04
ubottuqwebirc22589: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/18:04
Jonta!swearing | curlyears18:05
ubottucurlyears: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:05
oerheksqwebirc22589, you have been answered many times18:05
ikoniacurlyears: calm down if possible please, I undersand it must be frustrating if you have language problems when typing18:05
ikoniacurlyears: just take your time, better to send out a good clear message with a bit of time / thought than rush and get no useful response back18:06
curlyearsJonta:  I am alone here.   KI do trty to remember to edit my ikn;uy, as well as to remember tag my comments.  Sometimes, especiALLY WNHEN ki GET ANXIOUS OR AM FEELING PILED UPON,, i  FORGET.18:06
ikoniacurlyears: no-one will pressure you for time, just say "I'll answer you clearly as soon as possible"18:06
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urgodfatheronce this snapshot is restored, i will try to purge again. which log would you like for me to get?18:10
Jonta!cookie | ikonia18:11
ubottuikonia: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!18:11
curlyearsikonia:   no one will pressure me for time?   Example;  yesdterday, I was busily cofrrecting the mistakes in a long, complex posgt,and leftyfb asked me several times if I wdere ignoring him.18:12
hggdhcurlyears: just take your time18:12
ikoniacurlyears: ok, so just say "I'm just typing, I'll get to you as quickly as possible"18:12
ikoniacurlyears: that way they know you have seen their help and will respond as best possible18:12
hggdhyes, better18:12
ikoniacurlyears: have that as a cut and paste if you need it18:13
ikonia(or write something pre-prepared)18:13
curlyearsi found this to be very srong "prressure"ikonia:  how can I say "I'm typing" if I am in the middle of edjtting a post for typos?18:15
JontaArrow-key down, type "I'm typing", hit enter, arrow-key up twice, continue typing18:15
ikoniacurlyears: then either ignore it, or thank him for his help offer but decline18:15
ikoniacurlyears: or say in advice, thanks for the help, I may be a bit slow in responding as I'm not a quick worker18:16
urgodfathernacc did you see my last comment?18:16
ikonialots of options, doesn't have to be a problem18:16
urgodfatherikonia may i pm for a sec?18:17
urgodfathernot for help18:17
ikoniaurgodfather: ok18:17
leftyfbcurlyears: yesterday I gave you a suggestion (of which you have still yet to confirm or deny). 35 minutes later you responded that you weren't ignoring me and that you were busy removing your media card reader which you never told anyone you were doing or that it was internal and took longer than simply unplugging a usb cable.18:18
curlyearshggdh:  yes,, you are quite correct.  I am underf a log of tension,  as this destop has been essentaly non-functional  fvpr pvefry 5 weeks, ever since I tried to upgrade it to 18.04.   I am EXTREMELY frustraed,18:18
leftyfbcurlyears: did you check the BIOS for secure boot/fastboot/UEFI settings like I told you?18:20
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qwebirc17767hey everyone18:22
JontaHi18:22
EriC^^hey qwebirc1776718:22
qwebirc17767now i want to install Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on an Intel i3 x64, but when i download ubuntu, it automatically downloads the amd64 version, im intel5318:23
qwebirc17767intel64*18:23
leftyfbqwebirc17767: it's the same thing. It will work just fine18:23
qwebirc17767one more question18:23
qwebirc17767will be i3 M370, 3GBs of ram, Intel HD graphics, snappy for ubuntu?18:24
EriC^^it'll run fine18:25
EriC^^ram is kinda low but depends on what you want to do with it18:25
qwebirc17767does it slow down with time like windows?18:25
leftyfbqwebirc17767: won't know till you try it18:25
EriC^^qwebirc17767: ive not noticed that with my ubuntu18:26
qwebirc17767alright, thx18:26
Jontaqwebirc17767: DE/wm likely matters more than your distro18:27
metrumHi! I want to set up an email account for my desktop client. I tried Geary and Evolution, but both of them cannot connect to my Gmail account. How Can I solve this?18:27
Jontametrum: Any error messages?18:28
leftyfbmetrum: Configure them with the correct settings/credentials18:28
JontaDo you have a specific client you want to try?18:28
curlyearsand all this hassle about minor typos is B*******T.  sure, if I am ACTUAL LY mangling my post  into unreadability, I should be held accountable.  But all this  hassle over minor typing errors is damned irritating.  (and yes, I am getting slower and slower, as I become increasingly incensed, my typing is being severely affected towRD THE18:28
metrumleftyfb: Evolution says HTTP error: Unauthorized18:28
leftyfbmetrum: incorrect credentials18:29
curlyearstoward the negative.18:29
leftyfbcurlyears: did you check the BIOS for secure boot/fastboot/UEFI settings like I told you?18:29
metrumsame at geary.. both of them says wrong username or pwd but they are correct, so its not a mistype18:29
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leftyfbmetrum: it is 100% a problem your settings/credentials. What email provider?18:30
oerheksmaybe you need to authorize a client in gmail settings > connected apps18:31
metrumGmail18:31
leftyfbmetrum: did you enable POP/IMAP in your gmail settings?18:31
metrumPOP is disabled, IMAP is enabled18:31
leftyfbum18:31
leftyfbhm, ok. They split it out now apparently18:32
urgodfatherok here is a pastebin of the purge https://pastebin.com/zE7vmQd618:32
curlyearsleftyfb: Once again,  Yes, I did.  *AND* I have disabled as many boot devices other than the DVD that I am allowed to  and i hardware chevks on both RAM and the HDD (bubilt in tests in my BIOS)18:32
leftyfbcurlyears: Is "Secure Boot" Enabled or Disabled?18:33
urgodfatherif you want more logs i will pull them18:33
leftyfbmetrum: what do you have as your server for gmail in your email settings?18:33
curlyearsleftyfb: m  *DISAQBLED,', as  it has been for 2 years.  I couldn't have been booting and runnin g 16.04 if it were not18:34
leftyfbcurlyears: incorrect. Do you have UEFI enabled or disabled? Maybe set to Legacy?18:34
leftyfbmetrum: https://support.google.com/cloudidentity/answer/6260879?hl=en18:34
leftyfbmetrum: actually, that's not it. Right setting, wrong place to set it. Hold on18:35
curlyearsleftyfb:  enab,ed, as  it has been for thre pasxt two years.  Again, I coudn't b oot wiythit disabled'18:35
leftyfbcurlyears: also incorrect. But thank you for answering18:35
cipta_gelarhi broo,18:35
leftyfbcurlyears: So at this point, you need to boot a CD/DVD/USB with the Ubuntu 18.04 installer. Can you do that?18:36
curlyearsI am talking about physically failing to boot, not somde "theory" I picked up off the intrrnet18:36
leftyfbmetrum: https://myaccount.google.com/security?utm_source=OGB&utm_medium=act#connectedapps18:37
cipta_gelarok bosss, i undertand18:37
leftyfbcurlyears: So the answer is no, you cannot "physically" boot to external devices. That is your #1 goal at this point. You should read the documentation for your hardware or seek help in #hardware. Once you do that and have Ubuntu installed, feel free to continue to seek support here.18:38
curlyearsleftyfb:   I try always to frespond..  Since you require absolute perfection in  mytyped responses, I am ovften delayed considerably by tHe ;poj tless editing that you  AREforcing upon m/e18:39
metrumleftyfb: nothing shows other than Thunderbird which I also tried to set up a month ago. But now I enabled the option that allows less secure apps to connect for gmail, and now Geary works.18:40
leftyfbcurlyears: I have never forced you to type at any speed. I have in fact told you multiple times to take your time to type out in clear English and to not press enter to post until after you have read over what you have typed and fixed any issues18:40
metrumI also turned it on afternoon, but it seems that wasnt very effective. Now its on.18:41
cipta_gelarwhy install tor browser in ubuntu, quite difficult18:41
leftyfbcipta_gelar: contact tor for support with tor and it's browser18:42
metrumcipta_gelar: with Tor, you can set the exit node, so you can freely choose IP from all over the world18:42
cipta_gelarok thank18:43
curlyearsyikes.   I don't know whatt key sequences I am typing that ird, as jsauses that.  Various "useful tools" will pop u;p on my scfreen, or I will find myself closed out of thunderbird18:45
nokiomanzHi all, is it possible to see what the ubuntu installer does? I am trying to find where the file /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml gets created.18:48
curlyearsalso, the cursor n this laptop is WAY too small, and I keep "losing" ijt on the screen.   And sometimes,, the cursor fades ,llyou top being  virtua18:48
curlyearsDamned Keyboard18:49
curlyearsit doesn't help any that this laptop keyboard is small and crampt18:50
no_gravityHello! How do I know if my CPUs are running at full speed or if the lowered the clockrate because they are getting to hot? Does 'top' tell me something about it?18:51
leftyfbno_gravity: cat /proc/cpuinfo18:52
no_gravityleftyfb: Let me see... it shows me something about 8 CPUs. Those are my 8 cores I guess.18:53
syb0rgspecifically cpu MHz in the output of that command, no_gravity18:53
syb0rgyou can see the frequency of each core there18:53
no_gravitysyb0rg: It says 1599.992 for all of them.18:53
syb0rgand what speed is your proc "supposed" to run it?18:53
syb0rgthat information means little on its own18:54
curlyears1.6 GHz18:54
no_gravityThere is a line 'model name' : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz18:54
no_gravityDoes that mean they should run at 3.4 GHz?18:54
syb0rgso your CPU is running well below that speed, but it is not necessarily throttling18:54
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syb0rgit might be power saving because there is no load18:54
no_gravityThere is load. I have 2 browsers rendering something.18:54
syb0rgtry running something processor intensive and see if it spike up to 34oo MHz18:54
syb0rg*340018:54
no_gravitytop tells me 2 cpus are running at 100%.18:55
leftyfbno_gravity: while true; do cat /proc/cpuinfo |egrep -i "processor|mhz" ; sleep 1 ; clear;done18:55
syb0rgthat does sound like throttling to me18:55
no_gravityleftyfb: Shows 1599.992 for all of the 8 cpus.18:55
syb0rgwait, I thought you said 2 CPUs18:55
syb0rgokay, back to what I said about running a heavy load and seeing what happens18:55
freezer_is Linux better than Windows?18:56
no_gravitysyb0rg: 2 CPUs are at 100% in 'top'.18:56
leftyfbno_gravity: It should not show 1 number for clock speed. It should change.18:56
leftyfbfreezer_: that is not an appropriate question here. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic18:56
no_gravitysyb0rg: It is running heavy load on 2 CPUs.18:56
syb0rgunderstood18:56
freezer_leftyfb, you no fun18:56
no_gravityHow do I get it to up the CPUs to 3.4GHz?18:56
curlyearsfreezer_   Many linux users believe so very fervently.18:57
Jonta`yes`, iirc18:57
syb0rgfirst try running leftyb's command and increasing the load18:57
oerheksfreezer_, no flamewar here, thanks18:57
curlyearsoerheks:   I didn't see anythhing even approac hing a "flame wat"18:58
curlyearsoin fact, I vdery deliberately made a very neutral statement, rather than express MY opinio n, which could have triggefred a fla,de war18:58
syb0rgcurlyears, this is an english speaking channel18:59
no_gravitysyb0rg: I did with no load and with high load. Always 1.6GHz. Maybe my machine is turning 1 real CPU into 2 virtual ones?18:59
curlyearsin the meantime, my desktop is stilll ;sittting there like a pile of rusty junk.18:59
oerhekscurlyears, yeah sure18:59
syb0rgit probably is if you have a newer, decent CPU no_gravity, but that would not change the frequency it shows19:00
curlyearsoerheks;   may I /msg you?>'19:00
no_gravityI wonder how to get my full 3.4GHz.19:00
syb0rgno_gravity, is this a laptop? Does it behave the same when plugged in?19:00
leftyfbcurlyears: You issue is not currently Ubuntu related. Please seek support from the manufacturer of your hardware or try in #hardware (3rd time I've suggested)19:00
no_gravitysyb0rg: It's a desktop machine.19:01
curlyearsleftyfb:   Thanks,  I gjuess I eas so focussed on complaining about bein g ;picked jupoon that I didn't see hyour  commengt to that edffect.  Sorry'19:01
curlyearspicked upon19:02
natriumarmno_gravity: turbo speed should be even 3.90 GHz19:02
syb0rgok no_gravity, try installing cpufrequtils19:02
Guest70083hi19:03
Guest70083any good app on linux19:03
syb0rgthen run cpufreq-info19:03
curlyearsif I am not mistaken, there are no 3.9GHz based notebooks.  They would obliterate any battery pack light enough to carry19:04
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no_gravitysyb0rg: That gives me this: https://pastebin.com/raw/thHaE7Yf19:04
curlyearsanyway, apologies for any angst caused, thank you very much for the help you guys offered.  much appreciated.19:05
syb0rgso no_gravity, it does say that your CPU frequency is set to run between 1,6 and 3.9 GHz depending on load19:06
syb0rgwhat were you using as a heavy load earlier?19:06
no_gravitysyb0rg: A rendering software that runs in the browser.19:06
Jontano_gravity: Tried `yes`?19:07
no_gravityJonta: What's that?19:07
JontaProgram19:07
JontaCLI19:07
syb0rgno_gravity, let's install a cpu benchmarking utility and see what happens when you run it19:07
oerheksno_gravity, why too hot, it can run up to 105'C https://ark.intel.com/products/65719/Intel-Core-i7-3770-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz19:07
syb0rgtry sysbench19:07
no_gravityJonta: The one that spits out 'y'?19:07
JontaYes19:07
syb0rgand have leftyfb's earlier command on when you run it19:07
no_gravitysyb0rg: Why would that change anything?19:08
syb0rgbecause it might give a heavier load than you were experiencing before, no_gravity19:08
curlyearsagain, thanks,  I'll leave you in peace.19:08
syb0rgI don't know what software your browser was running or how intensive it is19:08
syb0rgI do also see  you are using the powersave governor, which by the name I assume tends toward lower frequencies19:09
no_gravitysyb0rg: I ran the browser task in two browsers and it maxxed out two CPUs.19:09
syb0rgno_gravity, you have more than two CPUs.19:09
no_gravitysyb0rg: How do you change that governor?19:09
syb0rgcheckin' on that, I've never had to19:10
urgodfatherwill someone point me in the right direction to find out why this purge fails. TIA https://pastebin.com/zE7vmQd619:11
leftyfburgodfather: sudo killall unifi && sudo apt purge unifi19:12
syb0rgI did just come across some info saying that Ubuntu will switch governors on the fly depending on load, so the powersave governor probably isn't an issue anyway19:12
urgodfatherleftyfb no proccess unifi19:13
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leftyfburgodfather: got an output of the commands I just gave you? Also ps -ef |grep unifi19:14
leftyfbah19:14
urgodfatherunifi: no process found19:14
urgodfatherthats it19:14
leftyfburgodfather: the command I gave you had the purge at the end as well19:15
leftyfbthat should give you an output as well19:15
urgodfatherit appears it didnt do anything19:15
leftyfburgodfather: sudo killall unifi && sudo killall java && sudo apt purge unifi19:15
urgodfatherunifi: no process found19:16
urgodfatherthats all i get19:16
leftyfbno19:16
leftyfbpastebin please19:16
leftyfbthe whole command and output19:16
syb0rgok no_gravity, you can try this command. I am not sure if it is persistent, but you can run it and see what happens: sudo cpufreq-set -g performance19:16
natriumarmleftyfb: "unifi: no process found" -> false19:18
syb0rgIn fact no_gravity can you give the output of: sudo cpufreq-set -g performance && cpufreq-info19:18
no_gravitysyb0rg: Still 1.6GHz under load.19:18
leftyfbnatriumarm: ?19:18
niooki got no problem with ubuntu19:19
no_gravitysyb0rg: syb0rg It's the same as I pasted it. Nothing changed by cpufreq-set -g performance.19:19
natriumarmleftyfb: && won't run the next command if the previous one returned false19:19
leftyfbugh, you're right19:19
niook0 gravity19:19
leftyfburgodfather: sudo killall unifi ; sudo killall java ; sudo apt purge unifi19:19
niooksudo kill ubuntu19:19
no_gravitysyb0rg: Strange that cpufreq-info still talks about 'The governor "powersave"'.19:20
urgodfatherhttps://pastebin.com/VTbJWLc619:20
rud0lfsudo murder nm-applet19:20
niooksudo purge *.deb19:20
syb0rgno_gravity, did you run the two commands chained with &&?19:20
leftyfburgodfather: sudo killall unifi ; sudo killall java ; sudo apt purge unifi19:20
syb0rgI suspect ubuntu might quickly revert the governor to its normal settings19:21
niookyea do this sudo purge *.deb19:21
syb0rgbut with the && we might be able to see if it temporarily switched since the commands run one after another with little delay19:21
no_gravitysyb0rg: "powersave" even when chaining.19:21
leftyfbniook: can we help you with something?19:21
syb0rgHmm, Ubuntu is not playing nice.19:22
coconutIs there any easy command to check whether files in two separate folders are a match?19:22
Jontacoconut: diff19:22
syb0rgcoconut, if they are both text files diff19:22
leftyfbcoconut: diff /path/to/file1 /path/to/file219:22
syb0rgotherwise shas256sum both19:22
syb0rg*sha256sum19:22
syb0rgif they output the same sum they are identical19:22
niookleftyfb cool19:22
urgodfatherrut row, that cleared my screen and then all i have is rsi@ubuntu-rsi-controller:~$ sudo killall unifi ; sudo killall java ; sudo apt pE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)19:22
niooksudo help19:23
leftyfburgodfather: type reset and try it again19:23
coconutJonta, syb0rg, leftyfb, files are no txt files19:23
syb0rgno_gravity, what version of ubuntu are you on?19:23
leftyfbcoconut: it will work19:23
urgodfathersame19:23
leftyfbniook: this is a support channel. Please stop posting useless banter19:23
syb0rgcoconut, then like I said, sha256sum. Or apparently diff will work anyway according to these guys =P19:23
coconutok, i will read on diff. thanks!19:24
niookleftyfb sudo df19:26
syb0rgno_gravity, I still think it was worth trying a benchmark program. That will stress your CPU to its max and then we will know for sure if Ubuntu is limiting your CPU to what it thinks is correct given the load, or really refuses to run it at full speed.19:26
urgodfatherleftyfb same output again19:27
leftyfbniook: trolling is offtopic. Feel free to go to #ubuntu-offtopic19:27
urgodfatherE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)19:27
ioriaurgodfather, for what ?19:28
niookleftyfb sudo gedit /etc/sources.lst19:28
leftyfburgodfather: sudo journalctl -xeu unifi19:28
leftyfbniook: please leave19:28
urgodfatherfor the purge19:28
ioriaurgodfather, of what ?19:28
urgodfatheri dont have journalctl19:29
urgodfatherunifi19:29
ioriaah19:29
ioriaurgodfather, remove for good,are you sure  ? if so,    sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/unifi/data  /usr/lib/unifi/logs   && sudo apt-get purge unifi19:29
leftyfburgodfather: what version of ubuntu?19:29
urgodfather14.0419:29
niookleftyfb sudo uname -a19:29
urgodfatherioria for good is fine. i have a backup19:29
leftyfb!op | niook19:29
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ioriaurgodfather,  sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/unifi/data  /usr/lib/unifi/logs   && sudo apt-get purge unifi19:30
urgodfatherim trying to clean it out and upgrade and fresh install19:30
drasicahi all, I'm getting this error with a fresh ubuntu 14.04 install: "Gave up waiting for root device....ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist."19:30
leftyfburgodfather: Does this machine have any purpose beyond running Unifi?19:30
leftyfbdrasica: why are you installing 14.04?19:30
urgodfathernone19:30
urgodfathersole purpose19:30
drasicawe have a research project tht requires 14.0419:31
leftyfburgodfather: ok, then why not reinstall Ubuntu with something a bit more modern and without any of these issues? Take you 15 minutes. You've been at it for hours now.19:31
urgodfatherioria https://pastebin.com/jDv4QU8K19:31
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urgodfatherleftyfb i want to!!! thats the thing, i dont have admin to the DO account so i cant blast it19:32
niookleftyfb sudo apt-get install gufw.deb19:32
syb0rgdrasica, you are probably gonna need to boot to a live USB to fix this (easily, anyway), can you do that?19:32
drasicaI am booted in19:32
leftyfburgodfather: DO account?19:32
syb0rgcool, what does lsblk say19:32
syb0rgand also cat /etc/fstab19:32
urgodfatherdigital ocean19:32
urgodfathersorry19:32
syb0rgactually rather than lsblk, give me lsblk --output NAME,UUID19:32
syb0rg^ drasica19:33
urgodfatherto make things better the "admin" is the one who caused this mess19:33
drasicasure, just a sec19:33
minnesnota1I installed Ubuntu 18.04 last night and my desktop orientation (3 monitor setup) and the application windows didn't open up at the size or location I last used them. Additionally, my login screen will occassionally appear on a different monitor other than the one I have set as my Primary. Can anyone help me out with this?19:33
urgodfatheri was instructed to fix it one more time and get my departments stuff off and on my own server19:33
niookleftyfb sudo apt-get install  rubyonrails19:34
ioriaurgodfather,  can you paste the output ? dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq --dry-run unifi19:34
drasicasyb0rg: it has sda and 3 partitions, sdb (the liveusb) with 1 partition, sr0 and loop019:34
drasicano uuids19:34
syb0rgso an MBR install then? Ick. =P19:35
urgodfatherhttps://pastebin.com/jDv4QU8K19:35
syb0rgcan you mount /dev/sda1? (sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt)19:35
urgodfatherthats not the newest19:35
leftyfburgodfather: does anything show up with:   ps -ef grep unifi19:35
niookdrasica try fdisk -l19:35
drasicaniook:  that has nothing19:36
ioriaurgodfather,   this:    dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq --dry-run unifi19:36
drasicathe fstab has overlay, tempfs and /dev/sda5 (swap)19:36
urgodfatherioria here is the newest and leftyfb i will find out about ps19:36
syb0rgdrasica, actual output, please19:36
syb0rguse pastebin or the like19:36
XLVanyone ever tried installing ubuntu 18.04 32bit on an atom 270 gm915 chipset netbook? it halts here on the ubuntu loading screen .. i have issued the gfxpayload=test kernel boot parameter19:37
drasicahang on I have to get an ethernet cable for the laptop19:37
urgodfatherleftyfb syntax error19:37
leftyfbughi19:37
leftyfbdoing too many things at once19:37
leftyfburgodfather: does anything show up with:   ps -ef | grep unifi19:37
ioriaurgodfather,  sy, i don't see the output of my cmd19:37
syb0rgfyi drasica, not sure if you know, but to copy from your terminal emulator use ctrl+shift+c and to paste to it ctl+shift+v19:37
urgodfatherleftyfb your's give syntax error19:38
XLVspecifically its a lenovo s10-219:38
niookleftyfb sudo shutoff19:38
drasicasyb0rg: iird ubuntu channel requires auth'd users19:38
leftyfbikonia: ?19:38
leftyfburgodfather: pastebin please19:38
drasicaI'm only auth'd on a separate machine19:38
urgodfatherioria https://pastebin.com/Ju8xxvqq is from the dry run19:38
XLVanyone got any thoughts on other kernel boot parameters that could help? none ( other than gfxpayload=test in 17.10 ) was needed before19:38
syb0rgdrasica, I don't believe it does actually19:38
ioriaurgodfather,  maybe with sudo ...19:39
syb0rgyou can try from the webchat and see what happens19:39
drasicasyb0rg: oh, ok I'll check it out19:39
urgodfathersudo dpkg or ps?19:39
RearchSesultshow should i partition my hdd's for a home server on which i will run regular old Ubuntu?19:39
ioriaurgodfather, dpkg19:39
RearchSesultsi have been told /tmp is mandatory, and /usr and /home are good too19:39
urgodfatherioria same warning19:40
leftyfbRearchSesults: you don't need to set any partitioning. Just do the guided install.19:40
syb0rgnone of those are mandatory at all, you can have for UEFI as little as an ESP partition and a root partition and for MBR just a root partition RearchSesults19:40
urgodfatherioria permission denied error not present with sudo19:40
syb0rgand if you aren't picky and will use the whole disk, yeah, just do guided19:40
leftyfburgodfather: can you pastebin the output of   ps -ef | grep unifi19:41
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syb0rgalso I like your nick RearchSesults =P19:41
urgodfatherleftyfb  that only gives a syntax error19:41
syb0rgalthough for a moment I thought I was having a stroke19:41
RearchSesultsty19:41
RearchSesultsty syborg19:41
urgodfatheri lied19:41
drasica_syb0rg: fstab https://bpaste.net/show/ef12e220965e19:41
urgodfathernoticed the difference19:42
urgodfatherrsi       3335  2524  0 19:41 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto unifi19:42
RearchSesultsSo if I were to partition however and giving seperate partitions to /tmp i heard increases stability preventing crashes when the server is "full"19:42
leftyfburgodfather: can you pastebin the output of   ps -ef | grep unifi19:42
leftyfbRearchSesults: it does not19:42
RearchSesultsI have been told that /usr makes sense if you have a lot of users, but on this one i think it is only gonna be me and my gf19:42
RearchSesultsfor now19:43
syb0rgwell drasica, there is indeed no entry there for your root partition. I'm not sure why your boot process complained about no /dev/sda1 when it was not even referenced though19:43
leftyfbRearchSesults: again, you do not need any particular partitioning scheme19:43
syb0rgso is /dev/sda1 your root partition drasica_?19:43
RearchSesultshow do i work in a samba share?19:43
urgodfatherleftyfb https://pastebin.com/1bGbFue119:43
drasicayes, but this is the fstab of the liveusb, is it not?19:43
syb0rgif you aren't sure we can find out easily enough19:43
leftyfbRearchSesults: so we're onto another completely different support question now?19:43
RearchSesultscan i just format a partition in ntfs or what would you do?19:43
syb0rgheh, I should have specified19:44
ioriaurgodfather, i don't think it's running ...19:44
syb0rgI meant your actual fstab drasica, that is my bad19:44
drasicasure, lemme mount the drive19:44
leftyfbRearchSesults: your filesystem does not need to be NTFS in order to share files to Windows users over samba19:44
syb0rgoops =P19:44
RearchSesultsleftyfb well the other one has been answered several times "you dont need a partitioning scheme"19:44
RearchSesults:) leftyfb19:44
urgodfatherioria did you see that last pastebin for leftyfb ?19:45
ioriaurgodfather,   sudo    dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq  unifi19:45
leftyfburgodfather: ok, that's not a syntax error. There's just nothing running. (btw, please include the command in all future pastebins)19:45
urgodfatherwill do19:45
drasica_syb0rg: fstab on /dev/sda1 https://bpaste.net/show/da8f6e8eaa9019:45
urgodfatherioria same warning as before19:46
drasica_it's a little weird looking?19:46
RearchSesultsleftyfb so can a samba share be ext4 journaling mode?19:46
leftyfbioria: time to modify info files?19:46
leftyfbRearchSesults: yes19:46
RearchSesultsleftyfb what would you partition it as?19:46
iorialeftyfb, honestly, i don't know19:46
urgodfatherleftyfb ioria would you prefer me to pastebin even when its one line output and/or same result?19:47
drasica_it has /dev/sda1 mentioned in a comment, but just UUID in the actual fstab lines19:47
syb0rgnot weird looking, drasica_, but I wish we could verify the UUID is correct. Annoying that lsblk did not show it19:47
leftyfbRearchSesults: I would use the guided partitioning like I told you19:47
syb0rgyeah I noticed that drasica_19:47
drasica_syb0rg: the uuid is correct19:47
ioriaurgodfather,   but dpkg reports still installed ?19:47
urgodfatherioria correct19:47
ioriaurgodfather,  dpkg -l | grep unifi19:47
leftyfburgodfather: yes, with the command19:47
RearchSesultsleftyfb while you are in chat: if i want to have a second copy of all files and also of a number of client systems...tablets, laptops, android-phones, desktop-pc, and the server itself backed up19:47
drasica_I went to /dev/drive-by-uuid or something like that earlier to verify19:47
RearchSesultshow would you go abotu it? rsync?19:47
drasica_(forgetting the exact path, closed the webtab)19:47
syb0rgok drasica_19:48
leftyfbRearchSesults: personally, yes19:48
urgodfatherhttps://pastebin.com/vHeind5v19:48
syb0rgI guess you can try regenerating your mkinitrafs, but since this is a fresh install it seems unlikely that got messed up19:48
urgodfathersorry ioria https://pastebin.com/vHeind5v19:48
RearchSesultsleftyfb and my gf's macbook can just be rsynced to the samba share of my ubunti server?19:48
syb0rginitramfs rather19:48
RearchSesultsmy laptops and dekstops etc all run ubuntu so there is no problem there...19:49
ioriaurgodfather,  looks correctly removed19:49
leftyfbRearchSesults: if you mean, using the mac to run rsync to your server, yes19:49
RearchSesultslefty oh ok but i cant do it server side.. i see....19:49
leftyfbioria: not if he's still getting the error19:49
ioriai see19:49
RearchSesultsleftyfb thanks for your kindly helping!19:50
urgodfatherioria then why do i still get this error Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code when i try purge19:50
leftyfbRearchSesults: if you're running rsync from the server hosting the samba share, the samba share doesn't matter. The directory is local19:50
RearchSesultsleftyfb would it make sense to have back ups on a seperate partition?19:50
ioriaurgodfather, sudo dpkg -P unifi19:50
syb0rgso drasica_ when you say fresh install, did you mean you saw this error on your first time ever booting? Or did it successfully boot at some point before this?19:51
RearchSesultsJust so if i mess with the system it wont ruin the rest of it?19:51
leftyfburgodfather: mkdir ~/tmp-files && sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/unifi* ~/tmp-files/ ; sudo apt-get remove --purge unifi19:51
leftyfbResearcher-: sure. Though personally I use external drives19:51
leftyfboops19:51
drasica_syb0rg: there was an existig 14.04 installation I didn't install19:51
leftyfburgodfather: wait19:51
drasica_it was a disaster19:51
leftyfburgodfather: mkdir ~/tmp-files && sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/unifi* ~/tmp-files/ ; sudo apt-get remove --purge unifi19:51
drasica_so I made a liveusb and reinstalled it19:51
syb0rglol, ok. So this particular install has never successfully booted though?19:52
drasica_syb0rg: correct19:52
urgodfatherhttps://pastebin.com/kwDcc0Ku19:52
drasica_after the my attempts to install it has not booted...19:52
urgodfatherleftyfb https://pastebin.com/kwDcc0Ku19:52
syb0rghow old is this machine, drasica_?19:52
coconutWhen copying a large amount of files with "cp -va /path/from /path/to". Is there any way for an % bar?19:53
leftyfburgodfather: sudo rm -rf /etc/init.d/unifi* ; sudo apt-get remove --purge unifi19:53
leftyfbcoconut: rsync19:53
leftyfbcoconut: gcp19:54
drasica_syb0rg:  pretty old ummm not sure how to tell for sure19:54
syb0rgif it is kinda an old machine, maybe it would be happier with an install in MBR mode?19:54
drasica_syb0rg: yes, is there a menu option for that?19:54
oerhekspv instead oc cp https://askubuntu.com/questions/17275/how-to-show-the-transfer-progress-and-speed-when-copying-files-with-cp/1727919:54
urgodfatherleftyfb https://pastebin.com/930Mtnse19:54
oerhekscp*19:55
syb0rgthe way to be sure is to go in the BIOS and change the settings to boot in BIOS mode, if possible19:55
leftyfburgodfather: it's going to be quicker, easier and cleaner to just reinstall ubuntu19:55
urgodfatherleftyfb ioria ty for assisting, i need to step away for a few mins19:55
coconutleftyfb: rsync i will read on, but what is gcp?19:55
leftyfbcoconut: apt-cache show gcp19:56
drasica_syb0rg: I thinkl it is booting in bios mode?19:56
drasica_it's not uefi19:56
urgodfatherleftyfb i agree, i dont have access to the management portal in digital ocean. only the "admin" who just so happens to be the same that jacked up this install does....19:56
syb0rgbut there are UUIDs in your fstab, which is a GPT thing and normally goes along with UEFI19:56
leftyfburgodfather: ok, then get them to login and reinstall ubuntu19:56
drasicayeah that's just what the installer does19:57
urgodfatheri was ordered to fix it by my direct supervisor, get our stuff off and let him ruin his own stuff19:57
syb0rgmaybe try making an MSDOS partition label on the hard drive, then reinstalling?19:57
rivynSo I've had a couple bugs filed on launchpad for a few weeks now, with zero response.  Is there some way to appropriately pester an appropriate person to respond?19:57
ioriaurgodfather, sudo dpkg -P unifi    what it says ?19:57
syb0rgI think that will make Ubuntu default to BIOS install19:57
syb0rgadditionally if you manually partition with no ESP partition it has no choice19:57
drasicainteresting19:57
drasicayeah the19:57
drasicasorry19:58
syb0rgthat pesky the19:58
drasicaok I'll try manually partitioning19:58
drasicathe bios is definitley not in UEFI mode19:58
drasicaand it is in ACHI mode (not IDE)19:58
syb0rgyeah it might be a GPT partiition label with BIOS mode, which I know some machines do not like19:58
urgodfatherioria did as root this time https://pastebin.com/riKSbe7M19:58
syb0rgno clue if that is the source of your issue but hey19:58
urgodfatherleftyfb ioria ty for assisting, i need to step away for a few mins19:59
syb0rgworth a shot19:59
drasicayeah19:59
syb0rgyou could check the current partition label though19:59
syb0rgbefore even bothering with a reinstall19:59
syb0rgerr not partition label, but you know what I mean.19:59
drasicaI was really expecting this to be more starightforward, but something weird was going on with the bootloader in the old install (which is why I reinstalled)....so in hindsight not too surprising :-/20:00
syb0rgtry sudo parted /dev/sda print20:00
syb0rgyeah maybe not a shock in that case lol20:00
syb0rgtoo bad you are stuck on oldbuntu20:00
drasicayeah I might try and convince them that we should just try the latest LTS20:01
drasicawe're compiling a custom kernel eventually that has some special wifi drivers for our research, and my partner thinks it will not work well with 18.0420:02
drasicabut at this point, no reason not to try, because this is terrible20:02
syb0rgTrue, but once you figure out the issue it should be straightforward in the future to reinstall if needed.20:02
syb0rgdid parted say if it has a gpt label currently?20:03
drasicasyb0rg: doesn't look like20:03
drasicapartition table is also already labeled as msdos20:04
urgodfatherim back20:04
RearchSesultsleftyfb20:04
syb0rgok. then so much for that theory20:04
RearchSesultsleftyfb one final question: I have two hdd's one will contain the filesystem and such, and the samba share partition and swap and so forth... and the other i want solely as a back up.. can i turn the second hdd just into a /home partition?20:05
drasica_syb0rg: the full output https://bpaste.net/show/9e508c75af9020:05
RearchSesultsleftyfb I mean does that make sense? or what would you do regarding the hdd for the backups?20:06
syb0rgdrasica_, I still have no idea what the issue is, but are there alternate 14.04 images you could try? Like the mininal installer, or server edition?20:06
syb0rgmaybe one of them will work better20:07
leftyfbRearchSesults: that only buys you space if the 2nd HDD is bigger than the first20:09
urgodfatherleftyfb / Ioria im making another machine to migrate from before blasting this one. should i cloud it or just on my vmware?20:10
leftyfburgodfather: you know you can put Unifi on a Raspberry Pi right? That's how it's running at my house20:11
urgodfatherof course20:11
urgodfatheri dont think the pi is suitable for 100+ sites though20:11
urgodfatherpersonal use, yes20:12
leftyfburgodfather: the controller really doesn't do much other than be used to configure things. But sure20:12
urgodfatherleftyfb  it does if you have guest access configured20:13
urgodfatherif i understand correctly20:13
RearchSesultsleftyfb I mean i am using one hdd for all my files to be served and to run some services on a ubuntu system and in that system also there is a a samba share... can i basically use the second same sized hdd to back up all the stuff on the first hdd with rsync?20:23
RearchSesultsleftyfb as what would i format these second purely backup disk?20:23
RearchSesultsleftyfb /home?20:24
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Baakohi guys i want to create an iso to install ubuntu on my laptop. where can i get iso from 18.04 plz thans20:36
naccBaako: did you look for it? prtty sure it's quite clear from ubuntu.com20:36
tomreynBaako: how do you mean "create an iso"?20:36
naccurgodfather: sorry i had stepped away earlier, just the output from apt was what i was after20:37
nacctomreyn: oh good point :)20:38
INeedInstallatioI need to create a windows 10 installation media using a bootable ubuntu drive. Woeusb doesn't get installed. What do I do?20:38
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: install woeusb20:39
INeedInstallatioleftyfb: You can't install woeusb on a bootable ubuntu usb20:39
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: did you try?20:40
INeedInstallatioI did20:40
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: and what error did you get when you tried?20:40
INeedInstallatioleftyfb: https://pastebin.com/2ifPjUf620:41
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: sudo apt-get install -f20:41
urgodfatherleftyfb so i put up a new vps installed unifi and imported a backup... now it appears that mongodb and java are starting up then crashing... same issue that ive had while trying to upgrade from 14 to 16 to get unifi from 5.6 to 5.720:41
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: if that doesn't work, enable universe and multiverse repos20:42
Baakonacc and tomreyn let me explain why i ask, maybe you can help me please. I have just remove the ram and hard drive from my broken laptop into an old toshiba laptop. I created a iso for ubuntu yeesterday. The issue i have is that when the laptop boots up and i press f12 and pick usb. I get the ubuntu install screen, when i pick install ubuntu, the laptop reset.20:42
INeedInstallatioleftyfb: It didn't work20:42
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: what won't work?20:42
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: again, please pastebin errors20:43
naccBaako: that sounds like flaky hardware20:43
tomreynBaako: i'm with nacc there.20:43
Baakowhat do i do?20:44
tomreynstabilize the hardware, then come back.20:44
naccBaako: run memtest (iirc this is available on the live usb), and maybe smart test?20:44
INeedInstallatioleftyfb: https://pastebin.com/acP2fQQH20:45
RearchSesultsI want to run all kinds of stuff and differing partitions on one large hdd on my ubuntu server and i want to put backups from there to another hdd... what ought that second hdd be partitionied as? ext4 /home?20:45
RearchSesultsi already have a home partition on my first hdd20:45
leftyfbINeedInstallatio: did you try enabling universe and multiverse repos and running sudo apt-get update first?20:45
INeedInstallatioleftyfb: It's working now that I have enable universe and multiverse. Thank you so much!20:47
tomreynRearchSesults: in the end it will depend on how you'll be doing backups.20:51
tomreynRearchSesults: if you'll create file based backups, then any stable and supported modern file system which you will be able to restore from, ideally a journalling file system, should be fine. i'd go with ext4 then.20:52
tomreynif you were looking for a good mount point, maybe /var/backups, or one you setup under /mnt20:52
Baakonacc, i install memtest on usb but the laptop keeps reboot. its freaking out20:54
naccBaako: it sounds like very unstable hardware, which does make it hard to test. Did you verify both the hdd and ram from your broken laptop are compatible with your toshiba?20:59
testerbetaHi21:00
urgodfatherhi21:01
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testerbetawhat videoeditor should i use (cinelerra is nice af but it has a very hard text editor)21:01
testerbetafor made vids like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_-ysz5LSiY&index=10&list=PLKqj_1NIajETvyCUpntkZk65v3kpjOfHY21:01
testerbetamusic lyiric/subs21:01
Baakonacc, the laptop is a toshiba satellite pro C650 and the broken laptop is a lenovo G500, the ram is sharetronic ddr3l 1600 SM322NW08IAF and hard drive is WD BLUE 1.0 TB WD10JPCX21:03
tomreyntesterbeta: i don't actually have first hand experience, but openshot and shotcut have been suggested to me.21:03
tomreynBaako: i guess diagnosing hardware is kind of OT here (ubuntu is just an OS), so you could maybe get more help in ##hardware. i could at least suggest a logical approach at identifying the source of the problem there.21:12
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memphisto+1 openshot21:14
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izaberahi, i don't use ubuntu, but i need a quick info21:27
kenranHi guys, I just installed ubuntu 18.04 on a new convertible notebook, but the touchpad is not working. When searching for this problem, I can find lots of info, but usually installing xserver-xorg-input-synaptics fixes the issue. Doesn't do it for me unfortunately :/21:27
izaberacan someone tell me any package that uses libxkbcommon?21:27
kenranCan you point me in the right direction on how to proceed?21:27
izaberamuch appreciated thanks21:27
oerheks!find find libxkbcommon21:28
ubottulibxkbcommon is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, 21:28
oerheks!find libxkbcommon21:29
ubottuFound: libxkbcommon-dev, libxkbcommon-x11-0, libxkbcommon-x11-dev, libxkbcommon021:29
oerhekssee launchpad for the package details21:29
izaberathanks but on launchpad i'm not sure how to find any package that uses it21:29
oerheksubottu gave you 4 examples21:30
ubottuoerheks: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:30
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izaberano that's not what i meant21:30
izaberai want programs that use it21:30
izaberanot other libraries that package it up in various ways21:31
oerheksxkb tells me keyboard21:31
kenranoh, and by "not working" I mean21:31
kenran"doesn't do anything". It's not the right-click bug I keep reading about.21:31
oerheksizabera, https://xkbcommon.org/21:33
izaberayes i promise you that i've done some basic googling and i found the launchpad page and the project's homepage21:33
tomreynizabera: so which of the two packages's reverse dependencies are you interested in? libxkbcommon-x11-0 or libxkbcommon021:35
naccizabera: you want the `reverse-depends` utility or `apt-cache rdepends`21:35
tomreynkenran: this probably doesn't help you much, but just in case it does: the 18.04 release notes state "Although libinput is the default driver for mice and touchpads, it is now possible to use the synaptics driver with the Settings app. Support for the synaptics driver will be dropped in a future Ubuntu release." (And there is libinput which will probably replace it in the future.)21:36
tomreynnacc: may not be available on a non ubuntu system21:36
nacctomreyn: true, but why do they care then? :)21:37
tomreyndunno, wasn't told.21:37
nacctomreyn: yeah, i know -- izabera why do you want to know?21:37
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kenrantomreyn: I'll try around some more, but it didn't seem to work. I just got rid of libinput and will see what that leads to. Strangely enough, Ubuntu was the only distro I could even really get to boot, even though this is not a "new" notebook per se.21:39
izaberai had a bug report that something crashed in xkb_keymap_ref in libxkbcommon under some environment that i ship21:41
tomreynkenran: i'd also check dmesg -T, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, ~/.xsession-errors  to maybe get a beter idea of what's failing how.21:41
oerheksizabera, but not on ubuntu ..?21:42
oerheksubuntu is good21:43
izaberaenvironment in this case doesn't mean os21:43
kenrantomreyn: oh, one more clue maybe: it didn't even work when I booted the live system from USB. Thanks for the command, I21:43
naccizabera: what does your bug report have to do with ubuntu?21:43
izaberanothing21:43
izaberai was hoping to find some package that uses that library21:43
naccizabera: then why are you asking the ubuntu support channel?21:43
izaberato try and reproduce it21:43
izaberabecause you're very fine people :)21:44
kenranI'll check that later, first I have to repair the system ;)21:44
naccizabera: but the original error did not happen on ubuntu?21:44
izaberai don't know21:45
izaberaanyway, thanks :)21:46
tomreynkenran: often firmware updates help with adding compatibility for higher capacity and different dimms21:51
tomreyns/often/sometimes/21:51
montecaHi. I was wondering if Ubuntu 16.04 still recieves software updates or if I have to upgrade to 18.04 to get the latest software?21:51
montecamore specifically graphics drivers, etc.21:52
naccmonteca: it does get updates (for bugfixes).21:52
naccmonteca: which graphics driver do you mean?21:52
tomreynmonteca: you are discussing two different topics there. software updates are not the same thing as security patches21:52
montecanvidia21:52
montecacool21:52
tomreynend of life is discussed here https://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life21:53
Helomhttps://tinyurl.com/ya79dnx521:53
tomreyn!latest | monteca and software updates here21:54
ubottumonteca and software updates here: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.21:54
montecalet me reframe my question21:54
tomreynHelom: are you still gathering ip addresses of ubuntu users?21:54
montecaDoes 16.04 use the same nvidia graphics drivers that 18.04 uses21:54
naccmonteca: there are multiple versions of nvidia, afaik, but nvida-390 appears to only be available in 18.0422:02
naccdunno what the default is as I've never used it22:02
naccBashing-om: --^ do you know?22:02
skinuxMy system goes back to login after login. I've done a complete distribution upgrade.22:05
skinuxLightdm log has a couple things about session stopped22:06
naccskinux: how did you do the upgrade? from what to what?22:07
skinuxI upgraded to 18.0422:07
skinuxIt was 16.04.122:07
tomreynshould probably have upgraded to 16.04.4 first. 16.04 -> 18.04 is also not a supported upgrade path, yet22:08
skinuxOkay. So, what do I do to fix this system?22:09
skinuxThere has got to be a way to fix it.22:11
naccskinux: canyou tell if wayland is running? I had this problem when I had that situation.22:12
naccskinux: alternatively, add a new user and login as that user22:12
naccskinux: it might be a local config file issue with your user22:12
skinuxI already tried that22:12
skinuxHow do I check for Wayland?22:12
naccskinux: ps aux | grep -i wayland22:13
naccskinux: so your dummy user also fails to login?22:13
skinuxWell, there is an entry, so I assume it's running22:13
skinuxYes, dummy user fails as well22:13
naccskinux: just one?22:14
skinuxJust one entry yes22:14
nacci think there is alwyas one, but it matters as to which your default is using; do you have an option at hte login screen?22:14
nacca little gear, iirc22:14
skinuxI can goose DE if that'd what you mean22:14
naccskinux: yeah, i suppose it is (choose, i think you mean?)22:15
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skinuxYeah...22:15
skinuxI tried the Wayland option, went back to login again.22:16
naccyeah, i meant *don't* try the wayland option, make sure you're using xorg22:17
linux_noob4ubuntu can install, as a usable OS, to usb, right?22:19
tomreynlinux_noob4: to a usb mass storage device, yes22:20
skinuxSorry irc crashed22:21
skinuxSo, Wayland went back to login. So, how do I fix this? Or is it even possible?22:23
naccskinux: yeah, i meant *don't* try the wayland option, make sure you're using xorg22:23
naccskinux: so when you select xorg, it also does the login loop?22:23
skinuxNone of the DEs work. They all go back to login.22:24
naccskinux: using lightdm? not gdm?22:24
naccskinux: can you pastebin the exact log (use tail -f) when you try to login?22:25
skinuxLightdm is default22:25
naccskinux: not in stock ubuntu22:25
nacc(anymore)22:25
skinuxI just configured for gdm and rebooted22:26
skinuxIt's a black screen.... Well see..22:27
linux_noob4tomreyn, what would cause windows to fail when doing so? i dd'd my windows install to usb so i can use that ssd for linux stuff. it gave "inaccessible boot device" after loading a while22:29
tomreynlinux_noob4: dunno, i'm not as much into windows, and this is #ubuntu22:30
joey_hey how can i get that new theme for ubuntu?22:30
linux_noob4i think you can install windows to usb if you have enterprise edition but just curious what the limit is, is it artificial? as in windows not loading usb drivers earlier?22:30
qwebirc55354hello, i want to create a bootable ubuntu iso into a usb stick, should it be fat32 or ntfs?22:30
joey_i always use dd to make the bootable usb22:31
ZPQqwebirc55354: fat32 on the USB-stick22:31
naccqwebirc55354: your question doesn't make sense22:31
tomreynqwebirc55354: how are you going to create it?22:31
guivercqwebirc55354, i use `dd` too; and to my knowledge any formatting is overwritten...22:31
skinuxStill black screen.22:31
naccqwebirc55354: there is no filesystem on the disk you are writing to22:31
nacc(or the filesystem doesn't matter, rather)22:31
qwebirc55354yeah sorry, my english is bad22:31
ZPQqwebirc55354: if you are using unetbootin or similar program22:32
naccno tool should care what filesystem is on the usb stick already if you're writing an ISO to it22:32
skinuxnacc it's hung trying to get to login.22:32
naccskinux: hrm :/22:32
naccskinux: actually hung, or just not progressing? can you get to a tty?22:32
qwebirc55354dd image mode or iso?22:32
skinuxIt's hung22:33
naccqwebirc55354: what do you mean?22:33
ZPQnacc: if I remember correct I've got some complains about it with unetbootin22:33
naccZPQ: sounds like bad software to me :)22:33
qwebirc55354https://imgur.com/a/GfnXIf922:33
skinuxI guess this means a full system repair?22:34
ZPQnacc: or else it's working fine22:34
naccqwebirc55354: so you're using rufus? why didn't yuou just say you were using rufus?22:34
naccalso isn't rufus deprecated?22:34
joey_for dd if youre in linux type lsblk first to see what disk you write to sdb or sdc or something but make sure you have the right one cause it wipes any disk you type then just type dd if=youriso.iso of=/dev/sdwhatever22:34
qwebirc55354well i didnt know it will matter if i told or not22:34
naccjoey_: i'd recommend passing a bs as well22:35
joey_ah ok. i never got that technical22:36
qwebirc55354hmm so what should i do?22:36
naccjoey_: will typically speed up the write22:36
qwebirc55354should i select dd or iso?22:36
joey_ah cool. yeah dd takes like 5 minutes or something without22:36
naccqwebirc55354: i don't know, sorry, i've never used rufus. I woudl suggest dd22:36
joey_just make the filesystem thing in rufus fat3222:37
guivercqwebirc55354, i don't know your program, but I'd suggest ISO image.. (when I said I use `dd` I meant the command, I didn't know it was a image mode to some program sorry)22:38
guivercqwebirc55354, at last resort; if whatever mode you use doens't work, use the second one next try :)22:39
qwebirc55354what program should i use for burning an ubuntu image?22:39
qwebirc55354i wanna start all over again22:39
qwebirc55354now tell me a program which u know and use, so i can burn it properly22:39
guivercqwebirc55354, sorry if I confused you - ignore me (too many cooks spoiling broth; sorry)22:40
skinuxNacc: I got to a shell, but nothing graphical works.22:41
eyeohqwebirc55354: what operating system are you currently using?22:41
qwebirc55354im using win7 x6422:42
skinuxnacc: given that nothing graphical works.. Am I looking at a full install?22:45
qwebirc55354any support here please?22:47
joey_just use rufus man22:47
qwebirc55354I dont know what to use, DD or ISO?22:48
joey_iso22:49
joey_dd is something different its not even in rufus22:49
joey_where it says create bootable disk using select the ubuntu iso22:50
qwebirc55354https://imgur.com/a/GfnXIf922:50
qwebirc55354but when i press start it tells me this22:50
dwigtonI installed 18.04 on a gen6 x1 carbon last night. It worked fine, today (after many gnome tweaks and tool chain set up) when I close the screen and reopen I get a little square of pixel noise in the upper left, the rest black and have to reboot.22:50
joey_any one should work then22:50
joey_but just use iso recommended22:51
qwebirc55354alright22:51
qwebirc55354thanks22:51
tomreyndwigton: here's the question you've been waiting for: does it also happen without the 'many gnome tweaks and tool chain set up'? also, does it happen every time?22:53
naccskinux: sorry, was on the phone22:54
dwigtontomreyn: I removed the tweaks and it still seems to happen. I mentioned it in case one of the extensions I tried did not unistall cleanly.22:55
naccskinux: honestly, i'm not sure; i need to step away too. Hopefully someone can help you diagnose what is going on, because honestly I don't know. You could try doing a live usb boot and see if it works?22:55
qwebirc55354woah, that "filesystem.squashfs" is the most of image, its over 1.7gigs22:55
tomreyndwigton: so you installed gnome extensions, what elese did you do?22:56
dwigtontomreyn: most of the tool-chain setup is stuff you would expect. build-essential, git, etc. I added a powermanagement utility which I suspect. I just need to remember what it was called.22:57
tomreyndwigton: hmm, a power management tool could very well interact with acpi.22:57
tomreyndwigton: if you think you didn't make changes which may have impacted a new user account then i'd say give that a try: create a new user account, try to reproduce it there a few times.22:58
dwigtontlp I think22:58
skinuxOkay, well, I managed to login to Ubuntu using the kernel entry after the third recovery option. The DE I have shows the Activities menu, not sure which DE I'm in.22:58
dwigtonThough all I did was install tlp. I did not change any defaults. since I need a kernel module for it to work on the thinkpad first.22:59
naccskinux: that's gnome22:59
skinuxOkay. Well, I had to login with my dummy account though.23:00
skinuxI need to fix it so I can get to my actual account.23:00
skinuxOr, at least move over application config and data23:01
naccskinux: you can backup ~/.config and ~/.local of your user and then try to login23:01
naccskinux: that is usally the problem23:01
skinuxYou mean back them up, also removing them under that name, and then login?23:02
badhola gente23:02
tomreyndwigton: you could also review syslog and Xorg.*.log at the time when it happened23:02
tomreyn!es | bad23:02
ubottubad: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:02
dwigtontomreyn: I disabled tlp and am trying to reproduce the error. no problems so far. But I am not sure if time was a factor. needs to be closed for 10 min or somthing.23:05
tomreyndwigton: i see. being into development, you will know what this means - until bugs are reproducible, it's difficult to handle them.23:10
tomreyngood luck getting it to reproduce, though! (and good night, i'm  heading to bed now)23:12
dwigtontomreyn: thanks. I am mildly hopeful that was the issue.23:12
qwebirc1045hello23:14
qwebirc1045im currently trying ubuntu :)23:15
qwebirc1045can i create partitions before installing?23:15
linux_noob4qwebirc1045, yes, using gparted or gdisks23:15
dwigtonyes, it is part of the installation process if you want it.23:15
guivercqwebirc1045, yep.  i use gparted for my partitioning; then install always with 'something else'23:15
qwebirc1045how can i open "gparted"?23:16
qwebirc1045i have no linux experience23:16
dwigtonjust select "something else" when it asks what kind of install you want.23:16
guivercit should be there in the menu's (you haven't said what version so we don't yet know your DEsktop)23:17
ntdtype "gparted" in a console, or "sudo gparted", "gksu gparted"23:17
ntdif it's installed at all23:17
qwebirc1045i want to dual-boot, ubuntu has automatically detected My other os (win7)23:18
qwebirc1045im 18.04 lts23:18
qwebirc1045but woah, how is wi-fi working? doesnt it need drivers?23:19
dwigtonit has drivers. They are in the kernel that is running off your usb stick.23:19
qwebirc1045oh well nice, anyways, i will install ubuntu soon23:20
guivercdrivers [kernel modules] are handled by kernel; if the wifi isn't detected then you need to add the kernel.modules (drivers) for your hardware (chip more than brand/model of wifi card)23:20
qwebirc1045how can i take a screenshot?23:22
qwebirc1045hello? some support please?23:24
guiverchttps://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html  (i don't use gnome [default DE in 18.04] so haven't used it)23:24
guivercqwebirc1045, please be patient - we're volunteers & most do other things; supporting people when we can23:25
linux_noob4qwebirc1045, windows key (super) + app (your case, type screenshot)23:25
qwebirc1045oh well23:26
qwebirc1045cant i display the partitions as drives (letters on them)23:27
qwebirc1045just like windows23:27
qwebirc1045instead of sdax23:27
guivercqwebirc1045, you decide where you want to mount the 'drives' - its a *nix based system, doesn't use floppy-drive-letters like cp/m,mesdos..23:28
qwebirc1045but how would i know if this partition is drive d or e or c?23:29
qwebirc1045i dont want to mess up23:29
linux_noob4qwebirc1045, depends on the file manager you use. Dolphin for KDE can give you a free space view of folders. In Nautilus (Files) go to "other storage" or something, forgot, and see how much free space you have. tons of ways to do it in linux23:30
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guivercqwebirc1045, why would you want to know... for installing I take note of sizes/drives-partitions on an envelope taken from recycling, always reading before install, then just use my envelope as my guide during install23:30
oerheksqwebirc1045, make free space from within windows, then let ubuntu detect that free space, easy and safe23:30
BudgiiAnybody know how to encrypt a USB drive? I did a search and found a program to download.. preferably would rather do it myself if it's possible.23:30
qwebirc1045ok ok, now how would i open the drives? i meant, just navigate through the files and so?23:31
qwebirc1045and is "System Reserved" ubuntu?23:31
guivercyour 'ubuntu' will be sdc or a different letter being your thumb-drive I bet; the system-reserved if on your hdd/sdd will be a restore-partition by manufacturer; or eufi (if very small) partition possibly - this is all guess23:32
linux_noob4qwebirc1045, nautilus (files) on ubuntu, or use terminal, whatever. or you can install a different filemanager if you want like dolphin, thunar, etc. and "system reserved" is likely windows23:32
qwertgreetings! :)23:33
qwerti change the default location of document folder,it works,but after reboot,they are back to default23:34
oerheksqwert, so how did you change the default location?23:36
linux_noob4qwert, if nothing else works you can symlink23:37
oerheksnormally one would edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs23:38
MibixI just repartitioned an ntfs drive and formatted it as ext4 and now i cant get it to mount23:39
Mibixtried restarting, tried creating a partiton table and restarting, no dice23:39
Mibixusing gparted23:39
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Mibixyou know what23:39
Mibixi might be an idiot hold on :D23:39
Mibixno still cant get it to mount23:40
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Nordohello um, im was quepirc or something like that in this irc23:49
Nordoi named myself23:49
linux_noob4Mibix,  mount /dev/yourgf /dev/me should work. it always does for me23:50
Nordoanyways, im was about to install ubuntu, soo when i came to "installation type" there is "install ubuntu alongside with windows 7" so, does ubuntu install itself on the unallocated space on the hdd?23:50
Nordo..when i select that option?23:51
linux_noob4Nordo, i believe it resizes your ntfs then creates an ubuntu partition23:52
Nordowell i already sized my partitions in order to keep some space for ubuntu23:53
Nordoshould i go with something else then create a partition with that unallocated space then install ubuntu on it?23:53
oerhekslet windows make that free space23:53
linux_noob4Nordo, i usually do manual install. ubuntu really could use better descriptions and notes when doing these things. it's scareh23:54
oerheksit is fine described.23:55
linux_noob4Nordo, you can do a manual install, make that partition / (root) and make sure that it's checked to create the mbr on that drive23:55
oerheks!fud23:55
ubottuPlease do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt23:55
linux_noob4fud is not giving proper descriptions and clarity when doing something as important as installing an os23:56
linux_noob4ubuntu really needs to say what exactly it's going to do when given the option to install alongside windows. when you click next you're not sure if it's going to give you more options or just go ahead23:57
oerheksoh you missed the warning, "if you continue, the changes are written to disk" like any other ordinairy OS23:59

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