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NickNickI edited firefox's launcher to start in private, but it does not start in private. Can anyone else test to check the issue? Ubuntu 18.04.100:02
TheoMAfter the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/00:07
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noobyboobywhat's the deal with PPAs? if I add one that doesn't have a Release file, I can't update my system at all? what?00:32
Bashing-om!ppa | noobybooby00:33
ubottunoobybooby: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge00:33
noobyboobythanks that has nothing to do with my question00:34
noobyboobywell except for maybe the last part. haha.00:34
noobyboobystill, seems kind of silly... these are 3rd party things that may be unreliable, so let's let them easily break updating all software00:34
Bashing-omnoobybooby: Jst that a PPA is what someone else did .. and ubuntu has no control over them .00:35
noobyboobybut surely they have control over how apt works?00:35
Bashing-omnoobybooby: Nope . How ever the author sets up .. is how it is .00:35
guivercnoobybooby, why do some homework before adding the ppa - ie. ensure it supports your release of ubuntu (it takes only seconds, and saves more than that in grief if it doesn't support your release in my opinion)00:37
noobyboobyI don't think you understand what I'm asking about Bashing-om,00:37
noobyboobyright okay00:37
noobyboobythanks guys00:37
noobyboobyis there some easy way to list installed ppas?00:38
Bashing-omnoobybooby: ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* '00:38
noobyboobyguiverc: FWIW, this one said it supported the version I am using00:38
Bashing-om noobybooby: As the source list "should" be in that 3rd party directory .00:39
noobyboobyno kidding!00:40
noobyboobyBashing-om: thanks, and to remove any given item that command returned?00:41
noobyboobyppa-remove or something, right?00:41
noobyboobymaybe it's time to install pacapt. I wonder if it supports PPAs00:41
Bashing-omnoobybooby: Depends on the end goal .. consider ' ppa-purge ' or ' sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/<package> '.00:43
padarcnoobybooby, if you want it the GUI way, just use synaptic ... it lists your ppas, you can activate/deactivate/remove them etc :)00:46
noobyboobypadarc: oh nice. yeah I can't be arsed to do this via cli00:47
noobyboobyI guess GNOME Software is shipped by default now? I had to install synaptic00:48
padarcsadly, yes.00:50
noobyboobynow that I've uninstalled packages from most of the PPAs I've added, how can I remove the PPAs themselves in synaptic?00:51
noobyboobyor do I have to do that manually?00:51
tomreyn!ppa-purge00:51
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html00:51
noobyboobywhere repository name and subdirectory is all the PPA's url?00:53
noobyboobyor something like webupd8/icons00:53
padarcnoobybooby, its under settings > package something ... then in the window that pop ups just go to other settings ... something like that (my synaptic is not in english)00:53
noobyboobypadarc: which language?00:54
padarcpadarc, other programs, not settings ^^00:54
padarcnoobybooby, mine is in german00:54
noobyboobytell me the German please00:54
padarcnoobybooby, einstellungen>packetquellen00:54
padarcnoobybooby, in the window that pop ups then > andere Programme00:55
noobyboobythanks :)00:55
noobyboobyer, dankeshurn00:55
noobyboobynot sure if I spelled that correctly00:56
tomreyn"software & updates" is the gui to manage it00:56
noobyboobyI am trying to remove a package in a PPA, and it wants to remove xubuntu-desktop to proceed. package is: numix-gtk-theme00:57
noobyboobyppa is: LP-PPA-numix/now00:57
noobyboobyalso it wants to remove xubuntu-core, lol.00:57
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tomreynppa-purge ppa:LP-PPA-numix/now01:00
noobyboobyWarning:  Could not find package list for PPA: LP-PPA-numix now01:00
noobyboobyI miss pacman :(01:01
tomreynindeed, this doesn't exist01:01
tomreynthis ppa, i mean01:01
noobyboobyyeah01:01
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noobyboobythat's, um... odd01:01
noobyboobywelp time to install Arch I'm done with this01:01
tomreynapt-cache policy | pastebinit01:01
Nightwalkerkgtomreyn: I managed to fix the AMD-Vi issues, but found a new issue due to the MOBA. Found this thread. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/135504401:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1355044 in linux (Ubuntu) "[MSI A88XM-E35] Ubuntu 14.04.1 constant reboot without nomodeset" [Low,Triaged]01:02
NightwalkerkgIt's for 14.04 but seems they found a specific fix for MSI mobas.01:02
burzosThe best thing about Arch is that they didn't use systemd like everyone else.01:02
noobyboobyum01:02
noobyboobyyeah they did01:02
noobyboobywhere have you been? lol01:02
noobyboobytomreyn: https://ptpb.pw/-PBu01:03
Nightwalkerkghttps://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?h=linux-3.16.y&id=0c78a44964db3d483b0c09a8236e0fe123aa9cfc01:03
NightwalkerkgThis commit is the specific one.01:03
burzosNo they didn't.01:03
noobyboobyI remember somebody saying this before...01:04
noobyboobyPPAs: easy to install, have fun removing them!01:04
noobyboobyeasier to just install a different distro I think01:05
tomreynNightwalkerkg: 'MOBA' as in 'mainbaord'? or something else entirely?01:05
NightwalkerkgMotherboard.01:06
noobyboobymsi makes motherboards, so01:06
noobyboobythat would make sense to me01:06
NightwalkerkgMOBO is correct. \01:07
NightwalkerkgMy bad.01:07
tomreynthats fine, i just wasnt sure you mean thtis or some bios feature i didnt remember01:07
NightwalkerkgNow, how would I check if bapm is enabled.01:09
BlackDalekHelp! I've got a broken 16.04 LTS system. I don't know what happened. We did sudo apt upgrade and after reboot and log in = No dash menu. No top of screen menus. No windows. No terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T does nothing). No wifi. How do I get this working again?01:11
BlackDalekAll I get is folders and files present on the desktop screen.01:12
tomreynNightwalkerkg: i'm afraid i would not know. you could ask in #radeon01:17
NightwalkerkgSeems the issue is with the motherboard.01:17
Nightwalkerkghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/174635701:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1746357 in linux (Ubuntu) "Boot loop MSI A88XM-E35 AMD APU A8-5600K (Aruba HD7560D)" [Low,Triaged]01:17
Nightwalkerkghttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10496301:17
ubottuFreedesktop bug 104963 in DRM/Radeon "MSI MoBo A88XM-E35 GPU Trinity A8-5600K (Aruba HD7560D) Boot loop without radeon.dpm=0" [Normal,New]01:17
tomreynwe knew that already didnt we01:18
tomreynthose ACPI errors are a clear indication of it.01:18
NightwalkerkgYeah, i guess it will work like this until I get some new hardware. :D01:18
BlackDalekI can get a terminal with right click - open terminal. How do I get unity working again?01:18
tomreynNightwalkerkg: i have no better suggestions.01:18
tomreynBlackDalek: you can switch to a text login propmpt by pressing ctrl-alt-f201:19
tomreynBlackDalek: there, you can inspect the situation. i can help you review the state of your system a little if you're willing to post a couple command outputs online and to post the http addresses here01:21
BlackDalektomreyn, I'd love to, but this machine has no network connection as a side effect of it being broken01:22
tomreynso you tested this already? how?01:22
BlackDalektomreyn, so first I need to at least get a network connection working. Tested by trying to ping or run any apt-get command. No network connection01:23
tomreynBlackDalek: what type of network interfaces do you have there?01:23
tomreynethernet / wired, or wireless?01:24
tomreyndo you have the "nmcli" command available?01:24
BlackDalekonly wifi. Ethernet/wired is not an option - no access to plug a cable in01:24
BlackDalekit says "disconnected"01:25
tomreynso you seem to have nmcli?01:25
BlackDalektomreyn, yes01:26
BlackDalekhow do I get the wifi interface back up?01:27
tomreynso "nmcli c" lists your wireless connection?01:27
tomreynand "nmcli d" lists your wireless network interface?01:28
BlackDalekhold on... it seems to have come back up by itself.01:29
BlackDaleknow it lists my wifi network in green01:29
BlackDalekand I can ping again01:30
BlackDalektomreyn, ok. The wifi connection seems to be back again somehow.01:30
tomreynBlackDalek: ok nice01:31
BlackDaleknow how do I post output from the terminal to a pastebin?01:31
tomreynalias p='nc termbin.com 9999'01:32
tomreynsudo apt update 2>&1 | p01:32
tomreynthen tell me the http address returned01:32
tomreynif you have asecond computer, you can ssh to the comnputer we are diagnosing. then you can remote control it and also copy and paste the urls (instead of typing them)01:33
tomreynBlackDalek: ^01:34
BlackDalektomreyn, wait... gone to type stuff on the broken computer01:35
tomreynthus ... ssh01:35
BlackDalektomreyn, ok.. I'll try ssh to it from this computer01:36
tomreynthis will only work if the broken computer runs an ssh server, though01:36
BlackDalektomreyn, it does. It had openssh installed previously. OK, I have ssh login access from here now.01:37
BlackDalektomreyn, now what?01:37
tomreynBlackDalek: my wishlist is unchanged, do i need to repeat?01:37
BlackDalekthe apt update command you gave me returned errors about failure to resolve01:38
hellslinger /join #plasma01:39
hellslingeroops sry01:39
tomreynBlackDalek: it would have posted those to the pastebin01:39
BlackDalektomreyn, let me try again01:40
tomreyn"alias p" should currently return "alias p='nc termbin.com 9999'". can you confirm this?01:41
BlackDalektomreyn, all it is saying is "nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: Temporary failure in name resolution"01:41
tomreynok01:41
tomreynso we have a dns issue01:42
tomreynbut ping to 1.1.1.1 still works?01:42
BlackDalektomreyn, it does return the alias. Yes, I can ping 1.1.1.101:42
tomreyndoes "ping ix.de" also work?01:43
BlackDalektomreyn, no. "Temporary failure in name resolution"01:43
BlackDalektomreyn, it can't seem to resolve names.01:44
tomreyncorrect: please do:  alias p='nc 5.39.93.71 9999'01:44
tomreynthen: cat /etc/resolv.conf | p01:45
BlackDalektomreyn, it worked. results at http://termbin.com/dmll01:46
tomreynsystemd-resolve --status | p01:47
BlackDalektomreyn, unrecognized option --status01:48
tomreynhere, too, obviously that message was wrong01:49
tomreynsystemctl status systemd-resolved.service | p01:49
BlackDalektomreyn, http://termbin.com/64ks01:50
tomreynBlackDalek: can you ping 192.168.1.101:51
BlackDalektomreyn, pinging the router works, yes.01:52
tomreynBlackDalek: are you manually typing the commands, or do you copy and paste?01:52
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BlackDalektomreyn, copy and paste, but that time i just typed ping command.01:53
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service01:54
tomreynBlackDalek: ping -c3 ix.de01:54
tomreyndoes it work?01:54
BlackDalektomreyn, no01:55
BlackDalektomreyn, ping: ix.de: Temporary failure in name resolution01:55
radensHello, I have an ubuntu VM and another distro host and I would like to download the kernel debug symbols for the VM so I can debug it. How can I do this?01:55
tomreynBlackDalek: host ix.de 192.168.1.101:56
tomreynBlackDalek: does 'ix.de has address ...' ?01:57
tomreynor is the command 'host' not available?01:57
BlackDalektomreyn, do you want that piped to the termbin?01:57
tomreynBlackDalek: works, too01:57
tomreynhost ix.de 192.168.1.1 | p01:57
craigWHen I pop a cd in, where is it in the filesystem? Used to be /dev/sr0. It's an audio cd01:58
tomreynradens: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages01:59
BlackDalektomreyn, http://termbin.com/cw5001:59
radenstomreyn: I don't have apt on arch linux :(01:59
tomreyncraig: eject cd, run "dmesg -w"; insert cd, press ctrl-c02:00
tomreynradens: you do this on ubuntu, that'S the only thing we support here also.02:00
craigI was hunting in /var/log/messages, and forgot there's no such thing any more...02:00
radenshm I don't have enough disk on the guest. It's massive02:01
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo systemctl stop systemd-resolved.service02:01
tomreynBlackDalek: echo -e "nameserver 192.168.1.1\nnameserver 9.9.9.9" >> /etc/resolv.conf02:02
BlackDalektomreyn, the broken computer just put itself into some kind of suspend mode. I had to go and press its power button to get it to come alive again02:02
tomreynBlackDalek: ok :-/02:02
tomreynits strange that it would do this while you are working on it via ssh02:03
tomreynwell, it may be normal02:03
BlackDalektomreyn, yes... the terminal just locked up and I went to the other room to check it and it was suspended02:04
tomreynwe can stop X, i assume this will prevent it from shutting down02:04
BlackDalektomreyn, -bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied02:04
craigtomreyn, nothing new happening. This was sitting there: `[119834.491148] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16` but I'm not sure from when. I tried running soundjuicer to see if that was what was maybe kicking an error, but nothing new.02:04
tomreynBlackDalek: you made a typo02:05
craigAre audio CDs iso9660?02:05
BlackDalektomreyn, I copy and pasted02:05
tomreynBlackDalek: oh, sorry, my bad02:06
tomreynBlackDalek: echo -e "nameserver 192.168.1.1\nnameserver 9.9.9.9" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolv.conf02:06
tomreynBlackDalek: do you know what your display manager is? lightdm, gdm, ssdm, ...?02:07
BlackDalektomreyn, it accepted that. It output two lines02:07
tomreynok02:07
tomreynsee above02:07
BlackDalektomreyn, lightdm02:08
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo systemctl stop lightdm02:08
BlackDalekI assume lightdm is the default for 16.0402:08
grumble227After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/02:08
grumble227"All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."02:08
tomreynBlackDalek: it is02:08
tomreynBlackDalek: how are you coming?02:10
BlackDalektomreyn, the broken computer's gui is now off.02:10
tomreynBlackDalek: good. do we still have internet access? ping -c3 abc.de02:10
BlackDalektomreyn, that worked02:11
tomreynsudo apt update 2>&1 | p02:11
BlackDalektomreyn, it never said anything about temporary name resolution fail that time02:12
tomreynBlackDalek: at which time?02:12
BlackDalektomreyn, for the ping command02:12
tomreyni'm not sure what you're saying, or how it is now relevant. maybe i'm misunderstanding. did you run the apt command, yet?02:13
BlackDalektomreyn, I mean before, if I tried anything that needed a name resolved, like ix.de then it couldn't reslove it, but numerical addresses worked.02:14
BlackDalektomreyn, anyway here... http://termbin.com/550i02:15
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tomreynokay, ip addresses don't require the resolver to work, that's expected.02:15
pppingme16After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/02:15
pppingme16"All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."02:15
tomreynBlackDalek: let's do the same again with apt-get: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | p02:16
tomreynBlackDalek: then: sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1 | p02:18
BlackDalektomreyn, it looks like the output got stuck half way... http://termbin.com/embs02:18
tomreynthis can be okay.02:18
BlackDalektomreyn, I would have expected something to follow after "reading package lists..."02:18
tomreynno i think its fine when we pipe it into another command02:19
BlackDalektomreyn, ok. And here is result of the last apt-get command - http://termbin.com/ym0vj02:20
tomreynBlackDalek: Initially you said "Help! I've got a broken 16.04 LTS system." But your apt sources point to bionic, which is Ubuntu 18.04. what did really happen?02:21
BlackDalektomreyn, I don't know. We tried to do-release-upgrade, but that wouldn't start. I can't remember the error, but it appeared to not be able to connect to the download server. Then I told it to sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade, and that ran for about 1 hour then we rebooted and it was broken.02:23
BlackDalektomreyn, the owner of the computer told me they had not run any updates on it for months02:23
tomreynBlackDalek: i see. it would have been a good idea to mention the failed release upgrade initally.02:24
BlackDalektomreyn, ok.. sorry. I wasn't sure if it had even started.02:25
tomreynBlackDalek: you also just mentioned that there is an owner of the computer who is not you. are you a freid, helping them out, a system admin working for them, another user on the same computer?02:26
tomreynfreid -> friend02:26
BlackDalektomreyn, the computer is owned by my wife. She gets me to help her fix it, so I am her admin.02:27
tomreynBlackDalek: ok. you have three options now: (1) try to see whether we are still mostly on 16.04 and whether a downgrade is possible / needed. (2) try the upgrade to 18.04, which is not yet supported, again. (3) backup any data as needed and install 18.04.02:28
BlackDalektomreyn, how does option 1 work?02:28
tomreynBlackDalek: we'd change all apt sources to point to xenial again, not bionic.02:29
BlackDalektomreyn, let's do that then.02:29
tomreynthen we'd use some script to check whether you have packages installed which are not from xenial02:29
tomreynthen we'd decide whether it's worth the effort trying to fix it by downgrading packages, or whether you should install fresh02:30
tomreynBlackDalek: my favourite is actually the last option, backup (if needed) and install 18.04. can you discuss why it's not yours?02:30
tomreyni forgot option (4) backup (if needed) and install 16.04 fresh. but this is not so attractive, i'd say.02:32
BlackDalektomreyn, actually installing 18.04 is probably better as there were issues with her sound card not working properly under 16.04.02:32
BlackDalektomreyn, and what did you mean by 18.04 is not supported? isn't that the current stable release?02:32
tomreynBlackDalek: 18.04 is supported. upgrading 16.04 to 18.04 is not yet.02:33
BlackDalektomreyn, oh....02:33
tomreynyou must have used some development option to try to start the upgrade earlier02:33
tomreynsuch as do-release-upgrade -d02:34
BlackDalektomreyn, no I just did do-release-upgrade (without additional options).02:35
Bashing-omBlackDalek: Expect the path to open next week : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html .02:35
tomreynBlackDalek: what's the output of: grep -i ^prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades02:37
BlackDalektomreyn, prompt=normal02:38
tomreynBlackDalek: i see. you're right then, i hadn't expected that to happen.02:39
BlackDalektomreyn, what happened?02:40
tomreynBlackDalek: the system was configured to upgrade to the next available release, not to the next long term support  (LTS) release. if you try to upgrade like this, today, it will actually carry out an upgrade from xenial to bionic.02:41
tomreynwhich makes sense since ubuntu 18.04 is the next ubuntu version after 16.04 which is not end of life02:42
tomreynbut then your computer encountered dns issues, and this apparently made the upgrade fail.02:43
BlackDalektomreyn, yes... in software updates it was set for "notify me of new ubuntu version = Any new version"02:43
tomreynas a result you cancelled the upgrade, or it did itself, and you ended up with updated apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list*02:43
BlackDalektomreyn, that makes sense.02:44
tomreynBlackDalek: if it was set all the time like this, then your wife will have seen a lot of upgrade pormpts during the past two years02:44
tomreynor maybe you changed the setting these days to see whether this woudld enable an upgrade to 18.04, and it did.02:44
BlackDalektomreyn, yes. She told me that it had been prompting her for upgrades for a long time but she ignored it.02:45
tomreyni see. you should probably set it to "for long term releases only" for her next time then02:45
RayzrShrpcan anyone tell me how to get xterm-256 working securecrt with ubuntu 18?02:45
RayzrShrpit only seems to ever support xterm with 8 bit color02:46
tomreynBlackDalek: this makes esne if the goal is primarily a stable desktop experience and not so many upgrades.02:46
BlackDalektomreyn, yes. A stable desktop is primary goal for now.02:46
BlackDalektomreyn, do I need to somehow fix the source.list entries...?02:47
tomreynBlackDalek: we can try, yes02:47
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo sed -i 's/bionic/xenial/g' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list02:48
tomreynBlackDalek: tell me if there's any output02:48
BlackDalektomreyn, what is sed? anyway, it output nothing02:49
tomreynBlackDalek: explaining sed is a bit like explaining the universe. roughly spoken, it's a text editor.02:50
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | p02:50
BlackDalektomreyn, ok... that listed a bunch of xenial sources http://termbin.com/c1v202:52
tomreynBlackDalek: do you know any command line interface text editor, such as vim, emacs, nano, jed, pico?02:53
BlackDalektomreyn, I usually use nano02:54
tomreynBlackDalek: actually, don't bother just yet, we can use sed again: sudo sed -i 's/^deb-src/#deb-src/' /etc/apt/sources.list02:55
tomreynBlackDalek: then, again: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | p02:55
BlackDalektomreyn, ok. Done sed and apt-get commands. Result here - http://termbin.com/a80p02:57
tomreynBlackDalek: ok. now: sudo apt-get --assume-no dist-upgrade -V 2>&1 | p02:58
BlackDalektomreyn, what do those apt-get options do?02:59
tomreynBlackDalek: -V lists the versions a dist-upgrade would bring us from and to, --assume-no answers 'no' to any prompts.03:00
BlackDalektomreyn, I see03:00
tomreynBlackDalek: dist-upgrade will prompt whether you want to do this upgrade, and it will assume you answered 'no'03:00
BlackDalektomreyn, there is a lot of output Look here... http://termbin.com/shhw03:01
tomreynthat's usefulö since i only want to see what it would upgrade03:01
tomreynBlackDalek: this system has been going without upgrades for a good while. but on first sight, it's still a xenial system. i need to look some more, give me up to 5 minutes03:02
tomreynBlackDalek: okay for all i can tell, we can continue to downgrade this to xenial.03:06
tomreynBlackDalek: or you can do a fresh 18.04.1 installation, still03:07
tomreyncontinuing on the downgrade path should take another 20 to 30 minutes unless new issues arise.03:07
BlackDalektomreyn, I have all day.03:10
tomreynthe 18.04.1 installation would probably take about as long, plus preparatory time (making the installaer usb), plus re-installing packages03:10
tomreynBlackDalek: i don't ;-) but you get to make this choice.03:11
BlackDalektomreyn, if the downgrade to xenial is easier and will get a stable system again, I'd do that03:11
BlackDalektomreyn, how do I start this 30 minute downgrade?03:12
tomreyni think installing 18.04.1 is most likely easier, after all you can just do it yourself. although i don't know about /home, we'd need to see whether it needs to be backed up.03:12
tomreynBlackDalek: this downgrade is a process, which involves more chatting with me. that's why it takes so long ;)03:13
tomreynBlackDalek: i think you're still leaning towards the downgrade, so lets do it.03:13
BlackDalektomreyn, ok.03:13
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -V03:14
tomreynand this time you answer yes03:14
BlackDalektomreyn, ok.. it's doing something03:15
konradoshellooo. I did something not - very - wise. I wanted to install newest krusader software on my ubuntu xenial, google directed me to a page telling me to add ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and then install krusader, and I then just confirmed... and now I see it did things like "Removing unity-tweak-tool (0.0.7ubuntu2) ", "Removing webbrowser-app" and now I don't have these packages... not that I need them, but ... why did it remove them?03:15
tomreynBlackDalek: what this does is actually not a downgrade, but installing the many pending security (?) updates which should have been installed during the past year or so03:15
tomreynall for xenial03:15
BlackDalektomreyn, ok.. it looks like that is what it is doing now.03:15
tomreynBlackDalek: the downgrade we'll need to sort out afterwards. does it say how much longer it will take?03:15
BlackDalektomreyn, there is no progress indication03:16
tomreynBlackDalek: okay, is it still downloading or configuring?03:16
tomreynBlackDalek: alternatively, do you know how fast your download is, and does this computer have an ssd?03:17
BlackDalektomreyn, many scrolling lines... ok.. it finished now.03:17
tomreynokay, question solved03:17
tomreyncd /tmp03:18
BlackDalektomreyn, the disc is not ssd03:18
tomreyncd /tmp; wget -q https://raw.githubusercontent.com/tomreyn/scripts/master/foreign_packages03:18
tomreynchmod +x foreign_packages03:18
tomreynsudo apt install apt-show-versions03:18
tomreyn./foreign_packages 2>&1 | p03:19
BlackDalektomreyn, is that script download for me?03:19
tomreynBlackDalek: i did n o t just write this script for you, if that's the question03:20
BlackDalektomreyn, I mean did you intend me to download it...03:20
tomreynBlackDalek: it's a script to tell us which package versions you have installed which should not normally be there03:20
tomreynBlackDalek: the commands i wrote will download it for you03:21
tomreynBlackDalek: if you feel unsafe about runnign this script you do not know or do not know you can trust (that would be understandable), you can review it befor you run it03:22
BlackDalektomreyn, I downloaded and ran your script03:23
tomreynokay, what's the url?03:23
BlackDalektomreyn, ok.. it didn't run. Wants me to run it as root03:23
BlackDalektomreyn, shall I sudo it?03:24
tomreynBlackDalek: okay, did you run all the other commands as listed above?03:24
BlackDalektomreyn, yes03:24
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo ./foreign_packages 2>&1 | p03:24
nanoakSomeone used Budgie? I have a problem with the shortcuts03:25
BlackDalektomreyn, weird... it never returned a termbin url that time. just went back to the command prompt03:26
tomreynBlackDalek: does this create any output? sudo ./foreign_packages03:27
BlackDalektomreyn, yes.. many many pages... here - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6D6YgkZ2qt/03:29
tomreynBlackDalek: if so, please post to https://paste.ubuntu.com03:29
tomreynok03:29
tomreynBlackDalek: turns out the upgrade to 18.04 did happen to a relevant degree03:31
tomreynBlackDalek: i suggest you install 18.04.1 from scratch.03:31
tomreynBlackDalek: do you have an additional storage where we can backup to?03:32
BlackDalektomreyn, there is a external hard disk somewhere. Give me a minute to find it.03:32
tomreynBlackDalek: please also run: sudo lsblk -o +LABEL,MODEL | p; blkid | p; df -h | p; cat /etc/fstab | p03:35
mattfly1hi03:38
mattfly1how to get the package python-rsvg on 18.04 ?03:38
tomreynmattfly1: it's not available from ubuntu, maybe from a ppa03:39
mattfly1okay03:40
BlackDalektomreyn, I found the drive and plugged it into the broken machine.03:40
tomreynBlackDalek: very well, how is it connected? please also see the above commands03:41
BlackDalektomreyn, it connects via a USB port.03:41
NyanCat27After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/03:42
BlackDalektomreyn, http://termbin.com/ft9s http://termbin.com/eh3h http://termbin.com/7k0f http://termbin.com/0pvp03:43
tomreynmattfly1: i assume you found this by now - but maybe not https://stackoverflow.com/questions/10393675/rsvg-with-python-3-2-on-ubuntu03:43
tomreynBlackDalek: there's a lot of data on the disk, and not enough on the external disk. do you have backups of this computer already somewhere? such as in the cloud?03:46
tomreyn*not enough *space* on the external disk03:46
BlackDalektomreyn, the external disk can be formatted. I think it is a 120Gb disk. There should be less than 120gb of user data on the broken system.. I am not sure. How do I check how much user data is needed to be backed up?03:48
BlackDalektomreyn, there is no cloud backup03:49
tomreynBlackDalek: it's bad to not have backups if the data on this system has any value.03:49
tomreynBlackDalek: please do yourself and your wife a favor and fix this in the future03:50
tomreynBlackDalek: according to http://termbin.com/7k0f there is a single partition and file system on the 'broken' computer. it has a total capacity of 909 GB, of which 554 GB are in use. ubuntu and installed applications will not be using more than 30, maximum 40 GB. the rest must then be user data.03:51
tomreynso we're dealing with a minimum of 500 GB of user data here03:51
BlackDalektomreyn, hold on.. I might have a larger drive somewhere...03:52
nanoakSomeone used Budgie? I have a problem with the desktop shortcuts03:55
lotuspsychje_nanoak: see also #ubuntu-budgie03:58
nanoakI've tried but there isn't too much people there now03:58
BlackDalektomreyn, got a 1TB drive connected now04:01
tomreynBlackDalek: is it empty? can data on it be overwritten?04:02
BlackDalektomreyn, I think it is not empty, but it can be overwritten04:03
BlackDalektomreyn, http://termbin.com/pnvo http://termbin.com/74lv http://termbin.com/ic42 http://termbin.com/lmcn04:03
tomreynBlackDalek: do you want to make sure about this? we may also be able to keep some data there is needed.04:03
BlackDalekthe 1TB external drive has no critical data and can be wiped.04:04
BlackDalektomreyn, the 1TB external drive has no critical data and can be wiped.04:04
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newtmewt"All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."04:05
tomreynBlackDalek: as you wish. sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb obs=1M count=204:06
BlackDalektomreyn, what is /dev/zero?04:08
tomreynan infinite source of zeroes04:09
BlackDalektomreyn, ok.. so this is formatting the drive with  zeros?04:10
tomreynBlackDalek: just the first two bytes of it, destroying its partition table, and a bit more than that04:10
BlackDalektomreyn, ok... that must be why it took no time at all04:11
BlackDalektomreyn, partition table now destroyed.04:11
tomreynsudo parted /dev/sdb mklabel gpt04:11
BlackDalektomreyn, it says "Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab."04:12
tomreynsudo parted /dev/sdb mkpart backup 1 100%04:15
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo parted /dev/sde print | p04:15
tomreynBlackDalek: both of the above please ^04:16
tomreynBlackDalek: actually the second one is wrong, make this: sudo parted /dev/sdb print | p04:16
tomreyn(no harm done if you did the other one first)04:16
BlackDalektomreyn, ok04:16
BlackDalektomreyn, http://termbin.com/6jd604:17
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tomreynBlackDalek: sudo partprobe; sync; sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb104:19
BlackDalektomreyn, it's warning me that /dev/sdb1 contains a vfat file system04:20
BlackDalektomreyn, shall I allow it to continue?04:20
tomreynBlackDalek: the toshiba disk is the external disk, right?04:21
tomreyn1TB04:21
tomreynBlackDalek: it's got to be correct, continue04:22
BlackDalekit is doing something04:23
BlackDalektomreyn, it claims to be done04:24
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo parted /dev/sdb print | p04:24
BlackDalektomreyn, it looks like this now - http://termbin.com/of2904:25
tomreynBlackDalek: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt04:26
tomreynBlackDalek: do you have different, faster and slower, usb ports on this computer?04:27
BlackDalektomreyn, it has several USB ports but only a few are working. I believe only the USB 2.0 ports04:28
tomreynokay, then the second part of the backup will take a while04:29
BlackDalektomrey, I expected as much04:29
tomreynsudo tar -cvpzf /mnt/etc.tar.gz --one-file-system /etc04:29
BlackDalektomreyn, that one is finished.04:30
tomreynsudo tar -cvpzf /mnt/home.tar.gz /home/04:31
BlackDalektomreyn, this is going to take longer...04:31
tomreynBlackDalek: this one is going to take looong.04:31
tomreynBlackDalek: this roughly describes what we're doing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR and how to restore data form it04:32
Moc:( I think one of my app are in 'unresponsive' mode with the Wait or Kill screen, but machine went to lock screen, so I can't unlock my machine anymore !04:32
BlackDalektomreyn, yes... the home directory is being read. Very slow as expected.04:34
tomreynBlackDalek: so we've created a modern GPT partition table on the external toshiba drive. and an ext4 (linux only) file system on it which spans the entire disk. we have mounted (made available at some previously existing file system path) this file system at /mnt/.04:35
BlackDalektomreyn, that sounds correct04:36
tomreynthere, we have created a gzip compressed tar archive file which contains all of the current systems' /etc directory. this is where system-wide configurations are stored, as well as all information about user accounts on this system, their passwords etc.04:36
tomreynBlackDalek: this archive file is etc.tar.gz. and now we're creating home.tar.gz which will contain all that is in /home - which is hopefully all of your wifes' (and maybe yours, if you had a separate user account, too) personal data.04:38
BlackDalektomreyn, ok04:39
tomreynBlackDalek: there *could* be some other places where data which may still be needed might be stored. such as /opt or /srv or /var/backup or /var/www or /var/lib/mysql etc. but going through this would take too much time now, unless you know that there was such?04:40
tomreyni noticed that an apache http (web) server was previoiusly installed, so there might be custom data at /var/www - but that's all i know04:40
BlackDalektomreyn, I don't think she would have any essential data store outside her home directory. IF there was anything in /var or elsewhere it shouldn't be important data.04:42
tomreynBlackDalek: that's what i hope, too. this uncertainty should serve as a reminder to have proper backups of the next system you will setup.04:43
tomreynBlackDalek: when the current backup process ends, do the following: sudo umount /mnt; sync; sudo eject /dev/sdb04:43
BlackDalektomreyn, she has the habit of storing nearly everything she regards as important in folders ont he desktop04:43
BlackDalekon the*04:43
tomreynBlackDalek: *only* once this is done you can safely unplug the external drive.04:43
BlackDalektomreyn, ok04:44
tomreynBlackDalek: data on her desktop will be part of this large backup which is currently running.04:44
BlackDalektomreyn, yes.04:45
tomreynBlackDalek: you can already prepare the usb installer for ubuntu 18.04.1 desktop on another computer in the meantime.04:45
BlackDalektomreyn, does it need to be a USB installer?04:46
tomreynBlackDalek: no, dvd-rom should also work. but usb is usually more convenient + faster.04:46
BlackDalektomreyn, good because I don't have access to an unused USB stick04:48
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tomreynonce you have ubuntu 18.04 installed, you will need to reinstall the applications that were previously installed. if you want to generate an imprecise list of software packages which were probably manually installed on the current computer, you can run this on it (before you reinstall): comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u) | nc termbin.com 999904:49
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tomreynBlackDalek: when ubuntu 18.04.1 is installed and you are ready to restore the data, come back here to get help with restoring the home.tar.gz backup.04:50
BlackDalektomreyn, ok04:50
tomreynthe etc backup should not be restored, it is only there for reference.04:50
tomreyngood luck, an i'm off to bed04:51
BlackDalektomreyn, ok. Thanks.04:51
tomreynBlackDalek: one last thing: i'll be around here tomorrow (and could help more), but others around here will be help you restore this backup, too. they can also provide suggestions on a backup strategy for the new system.04:54
tomreyn!logs | BlackDalek04:54
ubottuBlackDalek: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/04:54
tomreyn^in case you want read up on our chat later04:55
* tomreyn gone for good04:55
BenderRodriguezIn this day and age05:17
BenderRodriguezwhy do package managers still require only one installation run05:17
BenderRodriguezwith no concurrency05:17
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qwebirc65984I cant connect to wifi by netshare app i have changed my proxy setting but still no luck05:44
ljc_hey i'm a networking noob, trying to set up a bridge+tap for a qemu vm, but when i do `sudo ip link set wls3 master br0` i get: "Error: Device does not allow enslaving to a bridge"06:20
ljc_are there any workarounds for this?06:20
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focuswriterhi06:43
qwebirc29005Hello, I'm installing ubuntu on a windows 10 laptop and I end up listing only one drive, even though I have one drive with non allocated disk space. Any suggestion?06:56
brahmanaHi.. What is the right way to force a clock sync with ntp in Ubuntu 16.04 (server) ?07:03
brahmanantpdate and ntpd are not found. Do I have to install ntp related packages explicitly? I thought it came preinstalled with in Ubuntu server07:04
brahmanaOk.. found the relevant docs : https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/NTP.html.en07:06
Austin___hi all, my USB PCI (not PCIe) card is recognising ports as usb 1.1. A usb TV tuner i just added requires usb2 bandwidth. do i need to configure the PCI card in any way?08:05
stoopidhi. I tried to get my backlight keys to work, and now my computer cannot boot. I also found this link https://askubuntu.com/questions/476664/cannot-change-backlight-brightness-ubuntu-14-04 where the third answer gives the same suggestion i did. In the comments, its also thst it made his computer not boot09:04
stoopidwhat should i do? Can i just boot from usb and delete the file?09:05
stoopidI added /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf this file09:05
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brainwashstoopid: and that prevents your system from booting? can't you switch to TTY?09:08
stoopidbrainwash: i cannot get past the black screen09:08
stoopidi am currently downloading an ubuntu image, so that i can boot from usb09:08
brainwashyou could boot into rescue mode (select it from the GRUB menu)09:09
stoopidbrainwash: i cannot get to the grub menu...09:09
stoopidits just a black screen after the power button is pressed09:10
stoopidhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/762764/cant-change-brightness-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts09:10
stoopidsecond anser here, is what i did09:10
brainwashnow it's the second one?09:10
brainwashanyway, that change would not have such an impact09:11
stoopidits a different answer, with complete instructions i followed09:11
stoopidit is the only thing i did though...09:11
brainwashyour system should still reach the GRUB bootloader09:12
brainwashdo you know how to display its menu?09:12
stoopidwhat can i do to fix this? Can I boot from usb, delete the file, revert grub file, and go from there?09:12
brainwashI assume that it's hidden by default during boot09:12
stoopidbrainwash: usually it just showed09:13
stoopidbrainwash: what should i do to display it09:13
brainwash"Menu will appear if you press and hold <Shift> during loading Grub."09:14
west89Hello09:14
stoopidok, i tried thst09:14
stoopidi will try to boot from usb and delete the files09:14
brainwashsure09:14
stoopidis there anything else i can run?09:14
stoopidto fix09:14
brainwashit's still not clear what you've changed09:15
west89Is it possible to write the terminal result / output of a command in a file?09:15
stoopidok, i will write everything now09:15
lotuspsychje_!pastebinit | west8909:16
ubottuwest89: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit09:16
stoopidin the /etc/default/grub file i changed the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"09:16
stoopidthan i added this file /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf09:17
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brainwashso, I would open the grub menu during boot (Shift key holding), and revert the altered line09:18
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stoopidbrainwash: if i hold the shift key after i power on, it does nothing09:24
stoopidi get only blackscreen09:24
brainwashdid you try to open the bios/uefi settings yet?09:26
brainwashdoes that also result in a black screen?09:26
stoopidi will do that now. I hear the machine working, like its booting, but the screen is black09:27
west89@ubottu, But I need a terminal result / output of a program09:28
stoopidbrainwash: ok, if i go to bios menu, the screen works fine09:32
stoopidbrainwash: I HENCE THINK THE PROBLEM IS THAT FILE09:32
stoopidcaps***09:32
stoopidin the recovery mode09:33
stoopidor, when i get to the boot menu09:33
stoopidwhat should i select? In the recovery mode09:33
stoopidthere are many options (resume, clean, ..., grub, root,...)09:33
lotuspsychjewest89: start the program from terminal09:36
stoopidbrainwash: if i go too root, in the recovery-menu, i cannot delete the /usr/share/.... file, it says read-only file system. But i am now sure that this is the file causing the problems09:37
cfhowlettthat is NOT the way to fix this, stoopid.09:37
stoopidcfhowlett: how should i fix it?09:38
west89lotuspsychje,09:38
west89yes to have a result output for an error analysis09:38
stoopidi can get to the boot and bios menu. but when i try to boot into the system, i get the black screen. It is because i added the file /usr/share/..../20-intel... as i found now online that other people got that too after they added the file09:39
stoopidcfhowlett: so i think i have to delete this file09:39
west89lotuspsychje,09:39
west89what the program does.09:39
west89Have problems with the Minecraft launcher and forge09:39
cfhowlettstoopid, that makes sense.  can't hurt to experiment09:42
stoopidcfhowlett: i think it worked. I booted up now, after deleting the file09:44
cfhowlettand the backlight??09:45
stoopidcfhowlett: i could not adjust the brightness before, and i cannot do it now. The problem is that the keys do not register09:46
stoopidcfhowlett: i can adjust the files conftrolling the backlight, and it changes09:46
stoopidbut the keys, fn+f5, are not registered09:47
stoopidif i run acpi_listen09:47
stoopidthey dont registers. all others do09:47
ice9whats the best and safest way to remove old kernel versions and their modules to freeup disk space?09:48
west89Do you creep out the terminal output at startup program not out?09:51
Austin___how do i check that my PCI USB card supports USB 2.0?09:51
Austin___any port i use will connect with USB 1.1 only09:52
ubuntu-matedrivers or properties idk09:52
Austin___in dmesg i get "device must be connected to a high speed USB 2.0 port", but AFAIK, the card supports 2.0 on all ports09:57
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ubuntu-mateno clue09:57
DudelyHow to connect an ext4 style partition on my ubuntu 18.04 server as a fileshare in my ubuntu 14.04 linux style lapto?09:58
Dudelylaptop09:58
Austin___FWIW, the USB device im plugging in, works on other machines at 2.009:58
Dudelyi was able to mount samba share on the very same server09:58
thinktankhello good morning09:58
Dudelynow i want to add a gnu/linux style share09:59
ubuntu-matewhat are you doing dudely09:59
thinktankwhere i get ubuntu on dvd free09:59
ubuntu-matei cant think of any uses for that stuff09:59
ubuntu-matethinktank, make one09:59
Dudelyubuntu-mate: i want to mount a dedicated partition of my server running ubuntu on my lapto also running ubuntu09:59
thinktanki cant09:59
Dudelybut not through samba but i want to do it the gnu/linux way10:00
Dudelyntfs?10:00
Dudelynfs10:00
thinktankno disc flash drive10:00
thinktankno money10:00
ubuntu-materob dollar general for a flash drive or something10:00
ubuntu-mateor go to a library10:01
ubuntu-matesee if they have old writable disks10:01
ubuntu-matefor free10:01
thinktankwhat happen to 11 lts is it still around maybe i can install thru window and update10:01
ubuntu-mateis the live version usually this slow10:02
ubuntu-mateor is it my pc/ubuntu10:02
Dudelyubuntu-mate: Any suggestions?10:02
thinktankhttp://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/10:02
Dudelywhat should dudely do?10:03
ubuntu-matemaybe some sort of virtual machine or something idk man10:03
ubuntu-matethat sounds a bit weird10:03
ubuntu-mateor maybe something like teamviewer could give the same effects10:03
adroit_machineIs CPU-G a good alternative for CPU-Z? Can I install it? Although, it is not in the offical ubuntu repository. Is it safe?10:03
thinktankwubi will work?10:03
thinktankill try virual machine10:04
thinktankrecommend one?10:04
ubuntu-matei dont know many for linux10:04
ubuntu-matebut a quick surf of the web would help you better than i could10:04
thinktankok ty10:05
Dudelyubuntu-mate: Any suggestions?10:09
thinktanki found virtual box10:10
thinktankby oracle an open source one10:10
Dudelyhi i want to mount one of my servers partitions on a laptop both run ubuntu10:11
thinktankhttps://www.howtogeek.com/howto/22518/how-to-mount-a-remote-folder-in-ubuntu/10:12
thinktanki got vitualbox running says error10:17
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forgotmynickhello do i have to "make" this or can I just use the file php-malware-finder/php-malware-finder/phpmalwarefinder after cloning git and installing yara (I have 3.4)? https://github.com/nbs-system/php-malware-finder/tree/master/php-malware-finder10:30
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lotuspsychjeforgotmynick: yara is on the ubuntu repos if you like, for the git package contact the maintainer of the git10:51
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kjjymy sleep button doesn't work10:59
Austin___my usb2 devices connected to a PCI usb card are only picked up as usb1.1. why might this be?11:02
Austin___dmesg shows the pendrive being attached successfully, but lsusb -t shows it linking at 12M11:03
Austin___the other is a usb DVB converter and dmesg shows it requires a usb2.0 card11:03
Austin___i have tried all ports, changed cables out11:03
Austin___both devices work at usb2.0 in another machine11:04
kjjy!test11:07
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...11:07
Dudelytechmagus:11:13
Dudelythinktank try virt-manager11:14
kjjyalso, it is safe to delete unuzed timezones?11:20
lmaozedongguys11:26
lmaozedongthis channel has ligma11:26
kjjyor at least hide problematic choices in the installer11:30
kjjylike splash screen, language, keyboard layout11:30
kjjyunfortunately, I still need to let select the timezone, but I want to cull the wrong options11:31
kjjyeula screen also must go11:31
DbuggerWhat are the general rules that one should follow, when partitioning a HD for Ubuntu?11:36
DbuggerRight now I have just a huge Ext4 partition, and not sure if I should make changes to improve performance11:37
SlashLife29After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/11:37
lotuspsychje!partitioning | Dbugger11:38
ubottuDbugger: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap11:38
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, I do not have Windows in the HD. That link seems to be for having both OS co-exist together11:39
lotuspsychjeDbugger: for normal use, you can also let ubuntu setup auto-partition for you11:39
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, the system is already installed since long ago. I do not wish to re-install the whole system.11:40
lotuspsychjeDbugger: you have an existing partition layout from wich ubuntu version?11:44
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, not sure I can remember. Maybe from 17.04...11:44
lotuspsychjeDbugger: and wich ubuntu version are you going to install how?11:44
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, I am not going to install anything11:45
DbuggerI was just looking at my SDD and I was wondering if that is a good way to partition11:45
lotuspsychjeDbugger: did you partition manually yourself on 17.04?11:45
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, that is something I cannot remember :/11:46
lotuspsychjeDbugger: so..you asking a question your not going to use from a layout thats end of life that you dont remember anymore oO11:47
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, why not use? Partitions can be changed without re-installing the OS, no?11:48
lotuspsychjeDbugger: but you say your not going to install a new version, so your sticking to 17.04?11:48
DbuggerI am now not in 17.04. I have upgraded to last LTS, 18.0411:49
DbuggerWhen I installed the OS from scratch, it was 17.04 (I think..)11:49
lotuspsychjeDbugger: you should have mentioned this at the start..11:49
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, apologies. I didnt know it was relevant11:49
lotuspsychjeDbugger: feel free to share the output of your partitioning in a hastebin, we can have a look for you?11:50
Dbuggerlotuspsychje, here https://i.paste.pics/3k339.png11:51
lotuspsychjeDbugger: looks good for an ssd11:52
EriC^^Dbugger: do ssd's actually matter where the data? there's no disk spinning or mechanical parts for data to be congruent or at the start of the disk to be better, i think11:53
DbuggerI wasnt sure. With the default scheme, there is usually a swap partition, I think11:54
DbuggerSo I was not sure if I should have one11:54
EriC^^Dbugger: if you want hibernation then you need a swap partition11:55
EriC^^otherwise it's not really needed with the ram we have these days, unless there's a special use case11:55
DbuggerEriC^^, I think I have a swapfile11:55
EriC^^Dbugger: yeah, newer ubuntu uses a swapfile, it's basically the same thing11:55
Dbuggerso then, it is all ok?11:56
EriC^^yeah ;)11:56
Dbuggeroh good then :)11:56
DbuggerThanks11:56
DbuggerNow I need to make sense of my other SSD with Windows =P11:56
EriC^^Dbugger: no problem :)11:56
DbuggerThat one is a true monster of partitions =P11:56
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srirachihey there, I was wondering if there's a way to use iptables in order to proxy forward a packet to two different hosts simultaneously(preferably with iptables or anything that does not require a lot of maintainence)?12:03
someplaceEriC^^: there's some block caching effects on the ssd itself12:04
lotuspsychjesrirachi: perhaps a question for #netfilter ?12:05
srirachilotuspsychje: thanks, asked there too but didn't receive any info yet12:09
lotuspsychjesrirachi: ok, its sunday so play the idle game a bit :p12:09
srirachilotuspsychje: true that12:10
marduk19121After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/12:12
BlackDalekI've got a motherboard with built in audio which doesn't work in ubuntu.12:18
bodie_> trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/swarm', which is also in package swarm 2.2.2+dfsg-112:20
JimBuntubodie_, What about it?12:23
bodie_uninstalled ethereum and swarm.  reinstalled ethereum.  got ethereum-swarm.  solved12:23
bodie_seems packages were broken12:23
JimBuntusolved = Ok12:24
bodie_if the package dep tree is messed up, it should not remain so :)12:24
BlackDalekIs this built-in audio card unusable in Ubuntu? Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)12:37
aaronsnobelQuestion: I accidentally ran a apt-get remove command with a trailing ^ and apt-get went awol and started deleting all sorts of packages.. including gnome/ubuntu-desktop.. how should I recover?13:06
TellMeMoreHi aaron13:11
TellMeMoreCan you boot the machine? Get to a console?13:11
aaronsnobelyup13:11
TellMeMore\/var/log/apt/history.log should have the damage report13:12
TellMeMore /var/log/apt/history.log should have the damage report13:12
aaronsnobelthe problem is that i have no ethernet 'drivers' now. so I cant run apt-get not sure how to fix that13:12
TellMeMorethat makes it only a tiny bit more difficult :)13:12
TellMeMorehave you ever used a system within a chroot?13:13
aaronsnobelhm once when i did a bootloader repair.13:13
TellMeMorethis is similar13:13
TellMeMoreyou basically, you'll see the deleted packages in the apt-history log13:14
aaronsnobelso chroot will essentially make the root be the installed system vs live system..and can then run apt-get commands?13:14
TellMeMoreyou can boot from a thumb drive, and mount your ubuntu installation drive, and run apt from there13:14
TellMeMoreor13:15
TellMeMoreyou could download the .deb files that are missing, and install them locally13:15
TellMeMorei don't know which solution is quicker, but both will work13:16
TellMeMoreyou could download just the network bits so you get to connect, then run apt-get locally13:16
TellMeMorebtw, it's weird that you don't have network, the drivers shouldn't have been deleted13:16
TellMeMoremaybe it's just the Network Manager?13:17
TellMeMoreyou can set up your network card manually maybe? how do you connect? ethernet or wifi?13:17
aaronsnobelhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yGcYvDSqqY/ is the removed packages. root of install is luks encrypted.. just mounted and tried a chroot on it.. is it the dev dir or mount point?13:19
TellMeMorefor apt you'll need /dev, /dev/pts, maybe /proc13:21
TellMeMoreand you'll need to set up /etc/resolv.conf13:21
TellMeMorewrite 'nameserver 8.8.4.4' into /etc/resolv.conf if apt can't find the servers13:22
BlackDalekMy sound card doesn't even show up as a device in the Ubuntu's sound settings, so I can't choose it as the audio output device, but it does show up in alsamixer. How do I fix this? Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)13:22
TellMeMorebefore you chroot, run mount --bind /dev /${chroot}/dev13:22
TellMeMore(the ${chroot} thing is where you put the path of the directory)13:23
TellMeMore^should have mentioned, sorry13:23
obinoobI'm trying to install windows xp from terminal with qemu but I'm missing some critical step here13:40
compdocwhat happens?13:40
obinoobcompdoc: installation aborts at earlier stage13:42
compdocwhy not try virt-manager?13:43
obinoobcompdoc: I am at ubuntu server13:43
obinoobcompdoc: only have terminal available13:44
compdocyes13:44
compdoci use ubuntu server too, but I install a minimal desktop just so i can run virt-manager, and others13:44
obinoobcompdoc: I'm short on ressources13:44
obinoobcompdoc: ram is out13:45
compdocuses almost no resources when youre logged in, and none when not13:45
obinoobcompdoc: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?13:47
pizzaburgerHello everyone! I have  a Dell OptiPlex 980, booting live Linux Mint 19 x64, and I got no sound. Any usefull commands I can use to troubleshoot the issue? Thank you!13:47
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octo_I have a mouse that is one big peice with the buttons built in. I cant keep my finger on the lower left area for tthe button, and be able to move the mouse at the same time.13:49
octo_Is there a way to disabe part of the touchpad?13:50
octo_Ive tried synclient AreaBottomEdge  , but that still detects my finge there and scrolls rather than let me move the mouse cursor when I have two finger in ontact13:51
octo_If I cant figure this out, that means Linux is completely useless on computers with one big mouse pad13:52
atomicthumbs18After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/13:54
atomicthumbs18"All told, Handshake aims to give $250 worth of its tokens to *each* user of the websites the company has partnerships with – GitHub, the P2P Foundation and *FREENODE*, a chat channel for peer-to-peer projects. As such, developers who have existing accounts on each could receive up to $750 worth of Handshake tokens."13:54
rctgamer316After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/13:55
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BiessieHey gang! When i login to my ubunutu server i always get this - *** System restart required *** . but i have not done an apt-get upgrade command since my last restart 2 days ago.14:05
tomreynBiessie: maybe you didnt reboot two days ago, or have unattended-upgrades installed?14:07
Biessiehmmm maybe so.14:07
Biessieill see about the auto upgrades14:07
tomreyn'w' or 'uptime' will tell you when it was last rebooted. "dpkg -l unattended-upgrades" will tell you whether the package is installed.14:08
Biessieyou're right it is installed14:09
Biessie:) ill reboot just to be safe14:09
tomreynmakes sense, there was a relevant security update which requires a reboot recently14:09
Biessierebooting now. since the last few updates my X session hasnt been so hard on my CPU lately either14:10
BiessieI have an OLD OLD laptop running my server14:10
tomreynX server, didn't you say it's a server?14:10
Biessiei use the GUI every now and then, through VNC14:11
tomreyni see. if this system has both a cpu integrated graphics unit and a discrete graphics card, you could pass the latter through to a VM and run X there.14:12
Biessieroger that. yea it has integrated and a nvidia card on it. I have the driver to enable the nvidia card full time.14:15
Biessieproprietary driver14:15
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BlackDalekWho wants to help fix non-working audio device issues?14:25
BlackDalekhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/67208714:25
tanuki20After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/14:27
AeyesiHi people, anyone good with networking ? I need to bridge Wlan1 and wlan0 on raspberry pi but can't really,14:42
Aeyesinot sure if I should make NAT or not (cuz I dont need to really, right?)14:43
revi10After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/14:44
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damolimaWhere are xorg log files in 18.04?14:55
ryuodamolima: did you try checking in /var/log?14:57
tomreyndamolima: dpeends on the files you're looking for. system logs files are still in /var/log (where they've always been). the kernel ring buffer log is available using the dmesg command. and X + wayland + DM logs should be in your home directory.14:57
ryuotomreyn: they moved them? I thought only your session was logged there.14:58
lotuspsychjedamolima: perhaps also mention what your end goal is?14:58
tomreynryuo: i think there were some architectural changes needed to allow wayland to work14:59
ArthurHello15:01
ryuotomreyn: thought they were still using X.Org in 18.0415:01
ryuoHm.15:01
damolimalotuspsychje: to find out which graphics driver it's using15:01
damolimaryou: yes, there's no Xorg* files there15:02
lotuspsychjewelcome to ubuntu support, Arthur how can we help you today?15:02
tomreynryuo: yes, Xorg is still default in 18.0415:03
lotuspsychjedamolima: to see wich driver ubuntu is using from a terminal: sudo lshw -C video at bottom driver=..15:03
ryuoOk.15:03
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Arthurlotuspsychje, I'm fine thank you, just showing off IRC to a friend15:03
tomreyn(or again, rather, depending on what you compare to)15:03
lotuspsychjedamolima: to see the list of drivers your system uses from a terminal: ubuntu-drivers list15:04
lotuspsychjeArthur: what a splendid idea, and welcome to the community both!15:04
tomreyndamolima: have a look at ~/.local/share/xorg/15:06
sonicwindhmm.. I just did ubuntu-drivers list on my system and it returned no results... ??15:06
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ryuosonicwind: evidently it only lists packages such as intel microcode.15:06
sonicwindok15:06
damolimatomreyn: thank you, there it is15:08
lotuspsychjeryuo: thats not true, it should also list other drivers like graphics15:12
ryuolotuspsychje: that's all it did for mine.15:12
ryuothen again i'm still on 16.04 here.15:12
lotuspsychjesonicwind: check sudo lshw -C video15:12
ryuolotuspsychje: then again this thing only has intel GPU.15:14
lotuspsychjeryuo: yes depends on the chipset the user uses also15:14
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sonicwindyeah I knew aboug lshw -C... ubuntu-drivers command was news to me15:15
damolimalotuspsychje: ubuntu-drivers list produced nothing here too, running it as root didn't make a difference15:15
ryuoi presumed ubuntu-drivers was about proprietary drivers.15:16
damolimaMy end goal is to make my laptop stop oveheating when playing video in totem15:17
ryuodamolima: Some ideas for that; install hardware video decoder drivers if your hardware supports that.15:18
damolimaThe laptop is an asum N56DP with Radeon HD 7660G integrated and Radeon HD 7730M dedicated15:19
ryuodamolima: other ideas; disable turbo boost and/or cap the maximum frequence. tweak the perf bias if intel.15:19
ryuodman7_: or cap the GPU maximum.15:19
ryuoerr15:19
ryuodamolima: ^15:19
ryuodamolima: i only suggest the performance limiters as a last resort.15:20
ryuodamolima: i'd suggest installing vainfo and vdpauinfo to see if you have any support, which you should.15:20
damolimaryou: what would the package name for hardware video decoder be?15:21
ryuodamolima: depends on the hardware, it may already be installed.15:21
ryuoseems you can install va-driver-all and vdpau-driver-all15:22
ryuoif you don't know.15:22
ryuodamolima: though from the GPU names, those were most frequenly used in 2012/2013, before H.265 or VP9 hardware support was common.15:23
ryuodamolima: if the video you play isn't one of those, this won't do any good.15:23
damolimaryou: I don't know what to look for in the vdpauinfo output: https://pastebin.com/ytwMMw7X15:23
ryuodamolima: Ok... seems you have H264 support.15:24
ryuodamolima: what videos are you playing that overheat the system?15:25
ryuodamolima: specifically, what are they encoded with... if it's H264, it can be offloaded to hardware. that should cut down on heat.15:25
damolimaryou: I think it worked better on 16.04, vlc doesn't work at all now15:26
ryuodamolima: that still doesn't answer my question.15:27
damolimathe videos are youtube videous downloaded with youtube-dl. the extension is .mkv because it merges two formats15:27
ryuodamolima: It's probably using VP9.15:27
ryuodamolima: try requesting h264.15:28
ryuodamolima: youtube-dl --format h26415:28
ryuodamolima: that should help.15:28
ryuodamolima: if it does, you can make the workaround permanent with either a shell alias or config file.15:29
damolimaryou: --format h264 fails with error  requested format not available, without it says formats incompatible for merge15:30
ryuoHm...15:31
ryuodamolima: well. not much you can do then i guess. the problem is that VP9 is very cpu intensive.15:31
ryuodamolima: probably why it's overheating.15:31
tomorrow__any advantages of using ubuntu server over debian besides the kernel live patching service that canonical offers?15:31
ryuotomorrow__: packages? Debian at least still doesn't offer LXD natively.15:32
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amosbirdhi, I cannot change my cursor back to arrow somehow . It remains like this https://la.wentropy.com/zC8C.png15:33
ryuodamolima: wait a minute...15:34
* ryuo facepalms.15:34
ryuodamolima: try --format mp415:34
ryuodamolima: i had it wrong.15:34
ryuoit's been awhile.15:34
tomorrow__ryuo: anything else noteworthy besides LXD? Debian has newer packages for redis in their backports repo for example15:34
damolimaryou: vlc says it's h264 though: https://pastebin.com/JLGX55p015:34
ryuodamolima: i don't believe so. that's just an error message.15:35
damolimaryou: --format mp4 works15:35
damolimaryou: or at least doesn't give the same error15:35
ryuodamolima: More problems?15:36
AeyesiYoutube loves VP8 and VP9 but even with H265 there is NO hardware acceleration so, 4K 60 is insanely tasking for CPU15:36
AeyesiMy i7 is having a hard time decoding it15:36
ryuoAeyesi: what gen?15:36
ryuoAeyesi: the 5th gen and newer should have HW acceleration available.15:36
Aeyesi3770k overclocked to 4.5 Ghz15:36
ryuoAh. That's why.15:37
ryuoYea, the HW support exists, but only in Intel 5th gen or newer, or latest AMD Ryzen.15:37
AeyesiI'll get Ryzen eventually, for now it makes little reason to since it holds up pretty well15:37
ryuotomorrow__: no, i can't really think of any. Ubuntu I mainly use because I already use it for desktops.15:38
damolimaryou: how to make vlc work? I'm certain it worked in 16.0415:38
ryuodamolima: i'd check your HW drivers. otherwise I don't know really. i don't use VLC anymore.15:38
ryuoi usually use mpv.15:38
Aeyesivlc? vlc always worked15:38
damolimaryou: in any case, thank you thank you, thank you15:39
ryuodamolima: did it fix your issue?15:39
ryuodamolima: i think the issue stems from when youtube changed the default format they send.15:39
ryuodamolima: i've been forcing h264 so i can use HW acceleration still.15:39
damolimaAeyesi: vlc plays the audio but flickers black and repeats this error: https://pastebin.com/JLGX55p0 and freezes the system after a while15:39
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AeyesiWhat video is that?15:40
Aeyesih264 huh15:40
AeyesiI think that by default it has HW acceleration disabled, its tricky to enable that15:41
damolimaryou: that's possible, I'll test with an old download15:41
tomorrow__ryuo: I wish ubuntu had a wider selection of packages in their backports repo15:41
tomorrow__this is really one of the huge strengths of debian15:42
Aeyesiyou bassicaly sorta need to do this https://fossbytes.com/enable-hardware-acceleration-vlc-windows-linux-os-x/15:42
Aeyesihttps://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_GPU_Decoding/15:42
tomorrow__sometimes I just can't stay 2 years on the same version of a package. redis is a good example, it's a very stable software and new versions are released with major new features15:43
konradosHi! Something (terrible?) happened, and now when I click start button -> logout the screen goes darker and... nothing happens, I can just use the computer as nothing happened, like now I'm typing in this question in irc o.O What should I do now? It's KDE. Btw I know I could logout from terminal, but that wouldn't solve the problem really :)15:43
awc737is this a good place to ask if NAT / bridge / or iptables is most appropriate for my scenario?15:44
tomorrow__in ubuntu you face the dilemma of staying behind or compiling the software yourself, neither of which are ideal15:44
lotuspsychjeawc737: more for ##networking or #netfilter maybe15:44
awc737thanks, kind of slow over there. it's relative to LXD which I think is Canonical?15:45
lotuspsychjetomorrow__: please foxus on support, more offtopic goto #ubuntu-offtopic please15:45
lotuspsychjefocus15:46
tomorrow__lotuspsychje: sorry, newbie here15:48
damolimaAeyesi: telling VLC to use VPAU fixed it. Thank you.15:52
ryuoawc737: ?15:54
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Guest49289Hello! I have a question about a keyboard layout changing. I've installed Russian keyboard layout, the indicator is showing up at the notification bar, pressing Win+Space changes from en to ru... But whatever layout I choose -- it comes out only English! (Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS 64 bit). Help!16:11
ryuoGuest49289: that should be normal, but i've never used a foreign language keyboard. they usually have english plus foreign letters that become available when alt-gr is used.16:12
dnivraHello everyone! I'm using Firefox 61.0.1 64 bit on Ubuntu 16.04.5. I'm trying to install addons from the addons website. When I click on "Add to firefox", the address bar changes to show the addons icon but no notification is displayed and as a result, I can't install the addon.16:15
dnivraHere's a screenshot of address bar after I click on "Add to firefox": https://imagebin.ca/v/4Bx9PIuif1et16:15
dnivraI tried clicking on the puzzle icon but nothing gets displayed. I even refreshing my firefox installation(as specified in https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings) but I'm still unable to install addons.16:16
dnivraCould someone help outo here?16:16
oerheksdnivra, and what addon is this?16:17
dnivraI tried for two multiple addons and both had same issue so I'm not sure if it's addon dependent.16:17
* oerheks still waiting16:23
dnivraoh sorry. I tried installing keepassxc-browser and ublock origin. Both of which I was using before the refresh.16:24
dnivraIf needed, I can try installing other addons I was using too.16:25
sonicwinddnivra, you might also try asking on the mozillazine forums16:27
konradosPeople, please, I can't logout from my ubuntu.... nothing happens, is there a log somewhere?16:30
oerhekstons of pages with uBlock Origin16:30
konradosI can't even see the 'confirmation' dialog16:32
dnivraoerheks: I'm attempting to install addons from addons.mozilla.org and nowhere else16:33
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oerhekswithout proper info like the urls, you make it a trivia question/schooolwork, though you started with good info about your system...16:36
oerheksthere are tons of fake plugins16:36
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dnivraoerheks: Ah sorry. I thought you were suggesting I probably was trying to install a fake plugin. Here's the addons page for ublock origin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/16:37
oerheksdnivra, right, once asked to install, the menu to -Add does not appear.. maybe clean your ~/.mozilla folder and restart firefox fixes this16:40
oerheksand ~/.cache/mozilla16:41
lilkuz2005any deluge users in here ?16:41
dnivraoerheks: closed firefox, deleted ~/.mozilla and ~/.cache/mozilla and opened firefox. no change in behaviour.16:45
edi-linux-ubuntuhey guys16:48
brainyello16:48
edi-linux-ubuntuanyone here familiar with overthewire.org?16:49
FreeBDSMhi. I need to install some pacakges (`sudo apt-get install bison libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev libxml2-dev libzip-dev`) to build another one, but I don't want to make them get marked as non-automatic, what should I do?16:51
lotuspsychjeedi-linux-ubuntu: only ubuntu support questions here please16:54
edi-linux-ubuntuok16:54
lotuspsychjeFreeBDSM: tell us your end goal please, what are you trying to get working?16:55
BenderRodriguezmy ubuntu VM is incredibly slow16:55
BenderRodriguezand I need to find out why16:55
FreeBDSMlotuspsychje: https://github.com/andmarti1424/sc-im/wiki/Ubuntu-with-XLSX-import-&-export16:55
lotuspsychjeBenderRodriguez: virtualbox or vmware?16:55
FreeBDSMif I execute those lines - the packages like bison will be marked as non-automatic16:56
FreeBDSMbut they are probably not runtime deps, but build-time only deps16:56
lotuspsychjeFreeBDSM: ask the maintainer of the git perhaps16:57
lotuspsychje!rootirc | root16:59
ubotturoot: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.16:59
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Guest65711oh the patronizing17:00
Guest65711I wanna be root17:01
HomelessSantaHey all, I installed the PyCharm program through a 'snap' problem is I can't seem to find the icon to use it.17:01
HomelessSantaMy terminal says: pycharm-professional 2018.2.1 from 'jetbrains' installed17:01
lotuspsychjeHomelessSanta: can this help you? https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/documentation/17:04
HomelessSantalotuspsychje, I doubt it I seemed to have got it working I had to type: pycharm-professional; at the terminal which I find odd should of created it's own icon.17:05
HomelessSantaWithout the semicolon of course.17:05
lotuspsychje!yay | HomelessSanta17:05
ubottuHomelessSanta: Glad you made it! :-)17:05
HomelessSantalotuspsychje, Hooray for easy retrieval of files. :P17:06
HomelessSantalotuspsychje, I appreciate the help indeed. :)17:06
lotuspsychjeno sweat17:06
damolimaFreeBDSM:  run aptitude markauto bison libncurses5-dev ... after installing them, (but that requires installing aptitude)17:08
HomelessSantaI'm off, swoosh... :P17:15
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ca-on-adamGood day :)17:22
bocadillodeatunwhy need invitated to Linux Channel?17:26
bocadillodeatunits new that?not?17:26
ryuo... ok?17:26
spinningCatis there a problem in ubuntu about broadcam wireless?17:27
bocadillodeatunbetter distro than Ubuntu is....?17:29
spinningCatdebian17:30
compdocspinningCat, what sort of problem?17:33
spinningCati was mistaken there is no problem17:34
OldHatAnyone know how to troubleshoot intel graphics ?  I get this error "org.gnome.Nautilus[2099]: libva error: va_getDriverName() failed with operation failed,driver_name=i965" but everything else says I am using i915 not i96517:34
sergedx<bocadillodeatun> better distro than Ubuntu is....? --> LFS :p17:46
OldHatcustom fit17:48
ryuoOldHat: i965 is what the vdpau/vaapi driver is called I believe.18:00
OldHatryuo, Yeah, but Nautilus is looking for i965 when i915 is what system is using.  Something not set right it seems. vdpauinfo says "No protocol specified"  vainfo says "error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment."18:03
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ryuoOldHat: Uh... sounds like something is odd about the environment.18:06
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fretegimorning18:08
OldHatryuo, Right but I am hoping for a fix that wont break everything.18:14
EriC^^OldHat: are you using xorg stuff on wayland or something?18:16
OldHatEriC^^, Yes I am using wayland.  I dont see why nautilus wouldnt be ready for wayland18:16
ryuoOldHat: Uh... no wonder. those other tools tend to be tied to X.18:17
OldHatryuo, I installed those tools to research the problem.  Maybe that is why they weren't installed to begin with.18:18
ryuoOldHat: honestly i would advise sticking to X, unless you know that everything you need will work on Wayland.18:19
ryuoOldHat: perhaps someone else here can help you. I know nothing about Wayland.18:19
OldHatryuo, most things working here on wayland.  I have more problems with nautilus crashing than anything else though18:23
OldHatAnyone know how to troubleshoot intel graphics ?  I get this error "org.gnome.Nautilus[2099]: libva error: va_getDriverName() failed with operation failed,driver_name=i965" but everything else says I am using i915 not i965.  I am using wayland18:24
fretegimorning18:28
fretegiso i need to add instructions to the reboot and shutdown process of ubuntu 18.04.  any thoughts as to the best way to do that?18:28
OldHatfretegi, systemd probably.  What "instructions" ?18:29
fretegiOldHat, morning.  I need to simply issue the command 'umount -a -t cifs' prior to the shutdown process for both run levels 0/618:30
fretegiapparently cifs mounts confuse ubuntu 18.04 at shutdown and it goes from a 10 second reboot to a 5 minute one18:30
fretegiwas thinking i could make a script, place it in /etc/conf.d and symlink the run levels to it.  but that seems like a dirty hack and i wasnt sure how to make sure the script is the first action taken18:31
OldHatfretegi, haven't had to do that but trying to find systemd targets related to it shutdown18:38
fretegiOldHat, thanks for the help.  admittedly i am a bit more clueless on ubuntu.  generally use gentoo and much more familiar with openrc ha18:40
fretegiOldHat, im finding that the ways ive been fixing weird stuff, usually have a dif way that workds cleaner in systemd18:40
OldHatfretegi, https://askubuntu.com/questions/952363/how-do-i-properly-run-this-systemd-service-on-shutdown  seems to have similar problem18:41
fretegiOldHat, that runs right along the lines of my issue18:42
fretegino replys to his post tho ha18:42
OldHatfretegi, is this not there ?    /usr/lib/systemd/system/umount.target18:43
freteginope18:44
ioriamaybe /lib/systemd/system/umount.target18:44
fretegiOldHat, no system sub directory within /usr/lib/systemd18:44
OldHatfretegi, locate umount.target   (probably in a different place on my system)18:45
lilkuz2005hey guys, i need some help setting up deluge on my home server running ubuntu 18.0418:45
fretegiOldHat, ioria nailed it..  nice work.  its at /lib/systemd/system18:46
ioriaOldHat, probably archlinux ?18:46
OldHatioria, fedora18:46
ioriai see18:46
fretegiwell its, there.. what shall i do with it18:47
freteginot much to configure inside18:47
fretegiappears this unmounts everything18:48
OldHatfretegi, according to mine "Description=Unmount All Filesystems"18:48
fretegiyup here to18:48
fretegibut unless i manually umount the cifs stuff, system hangs18:49
freteginot nearly like ubuntu 16.0418:49
fretegiand i can always just manually invoke that command... but would rather the shutdown button worked properly ha18:49
gartralhey all, got a weird issue with a laptop here, the cursor is clicking "under" the active window18:49
OldHatfretegi, does it need to be unmounted from a network first ?18:49
fretegiOldHat, well thats what im doing.  so I have my fstab set to automatically on boot mount a few cifs network shares18:50
fretegiOldHat, if those shares are not first unmounted, the shutdown process hangs18:50
OldHatfretegi, My idea was that maybe something is accessing drive which prevents them being unmounted.18:52
ioriafretegi, seeing the fstab cifs mount optins might hel p18:52
ioria*options18:52
fretegi/server/Media /mnt/Media cifs vers=3.0,uid=1000,gid=1000,credentials=/home/tom/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,x-systemd.automount  0 018:53
fretegiioria, ^18:53
ioriafretegi, already tried  _netdev   ?18:54
fretegiioria, have not.  what shall i do with that?18:54
OldHatdoes automount    remount auto ?  0 0 means it wouldn't ?18:55
fretegisystemd.automount ended up being required as systemd would try to mount it before the network was up.  not sure what exactly it changes but no mount issues after that addition18:56
ShunkHi guys18:59
ShunkCan anyone help me with resizing a partition on windows?19:00
Shunk*ubuntu19:00
prariedog!list19:00
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OldHatfretegi, I was looking at the problem incorrectly.  So this file system is remote and your system is a gateway to it ?19:00
fretegiOldHat, just a LAN network share that i connect to19:01
fretegithis computer is not serving anything, just accessing those files in a file server fashion19:02
ShunkCan someone help me with resizing my partition on ubuntu through GParted?19:02
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bvargo2Hi, i'm trying to update my DNS servers and I cannot seem to figure out which way to go since I cannot access the "unmanaged" wired connection via the GUI network manager.  16.04 LTS19:04
bvargo2isn't there some sort of pastbin script?19:05
bvargo2https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sH62MMs22F/19:05
OldHatfretegi, Is there something running off the fs that is still running ?  Do you need to shutdown luks or something ?  I know if I have a terminal open to a external drive it refuses to umount it19:06
fretegiOldHat, nope.  i mean i could certainly make that mistake.  but no i close everything before the shutdown command19:06
bvargo2nvm, it's |pastebinit19:07
fretegiOldHat, those mounts are simply file storage.  so the only way they are utilized is if i manually nvaigate to the in a terminal or whatever to use the shares.  i shut all applications before shutdown19:07
bvargo2https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sH62MMs22F/19:08
OldHatfretegi, What about firewalld ?  I sometimes get a long shutdown because it has a job running ?  The other one is LVM job running but happens less often these days19:11
fretegiOldHat, could be.  all i know is EVERYTIME i manually umount the cifs shares, shuts down without a hitch19:12
OldHatfretegi, frustrating19:13
OldHatfretegi, Logs dont show errors ?  Just fails silently19:13
bvargo2so if my /etc/resolv.conf has nameserver 1.0.0.119:17
bvargo2nameserver 156.154.71.2219:17
bvargo2and those are the dns servers I want, am I done?19:17
bvargo2ThainBBdL:  did not edit /etc/resolv.conf directly.19:18
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bvargo2ThainBBdL:  did not edit /etc/resolv.conf directly.19:18
bvargo2hmmm...19:19
OldHatbvargo2, what does ip say ?19:19
bvargo2nameserver 1.0.0.119:21
bvargo2nameserver 156.154.71.2219:21
bvargo2nameserver 1.0.0.119:21
bvargo2nameserver 156.154.71.2219:21
bvargo2http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B3BXhCFnH3/19:21
bvargo2No idea why there are two different clipboards.19:21
bvargo2i.e., shift-insert puts in one thing, right-click paste puts in a different one.19:22
bvargo2anyway, what args should I use with ip?19:22
bvargo2https://i.imgur.com/y3hM3NM.png19:24
freteginope no errors19:25
bvargo2at some point, i had a working OpenVPN server which presumably explains why the bridges exist19:25
OldHatbvargo2, nmcli -p -f IP4,IP6  device show DEVICE_NAME | grep -i DNS19:26
xp_prghi all, I am in trouble with my ubuntu, it always says fix-with-missing when I try to install something :<19:26
bvargo2it stopped working and I haven't had the time or interest to get it working again...especially since I don't know where the problem is (i.e. server or windows client or, likely, both)19:26
bvargo2do you want DEVICE_NAME to be the enp...19:26
bvargo2?19:26
OldHatbvargo2, nmcli c19:28
bvargo2the list of options [tab] displayes is enp6s0      help        lo          tun0        virbr0      virbr0-nic19:28
bvargo2http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DrTN6pMMmd/19:29
bvargo2those wireless options are nonexistant.  i'm not sure how/why they are there...19:30
bvargo2there's no physical wireless adapter on this computer so far as I am aware.19:30
OldHatfretegi, if you had to tell systemd to mount after network then is it killing network early.  Reading one here that says problem was wifi shutdown first19:31
OldHatbvargo2, i have virb ones too.  They bridge to devices.  Tun is vpn i am guessing.  Not sure how you are connected19:32
bvargo2well, i'm connected through enp6s0 wired to 192.168.1.1 through a switch or two19:33
bvargo2i mean physically, back to the router.19:33
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OldHatbvargo2, why is that not showing in nmcli c ?19:34
bvargo2http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j6GFmhRSfF/19:35
bvargo2it is showing in nmcli d19:35
OldHatbvargo2, nmcli c     shows what is actually connected so should be one of those19:36
OldHatbvargo2, d is all devices19:36
OldHatfretegi, is the fs luks?19:37
fretegiOldHat, no sir19:37
bvargo2well if it is connected to the bridge, could the bridge be using the enp-whatever?19:37
bvargo2enp6s019:37
OldHatfretegi, do you see “stop job running for” on shutdown ?19:38
bvargo2i'm fairly sure that ndiswrapper is on this machine... could this be a potential solution:  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213925019:38
OldHatbvargo2, on my system both the bridge and the en are showing connected19:39
gareth__26After the acquisition by Private Internet Access, Freenode is now being used to push ICO scams https://www.coindesk.com/handshake-revealed-vcs-back-plan-to-give-away-100-million-in-crypto/19:39
fretegiOldHat, not sure, lemme look again.  ill reboot shortly19:40
OldHatfretegi,  you dont have any systemd custom service running for shutdown ?19:43
OldHatbvargo2, nmcli -p -f IP4,IP6  device show DEVICE_NAME | grep -i DNS, where DEVICE_NAME is any thing you want to test.  There wont be a DNS listed unless it connected.19:45
madLyfeanyone here dual boot between win10/ubuntu? efi with secure boot?19:46
OldHatmadLyfe, no dual boot but i am using UEFI19:46
bvargo2so if I enter "nmcli -p -f IP4,IP6  device show" and hit [tab] the results are enp6s0      help        lo          tun0        virbr0      virbr0-nic19:46
qwebirc412help19:47
qwebirc412help19:47
OldHatbvargo2, the one(s) with DNS are showing what is connected AND which DNS they are using19:48
madLyfeim about to move win10 to a new drive and use the old drive for ubuntu. wanting to set it all up with efi and secure boot. never done full efi and secure boot so not sure what to expect. i was told to install win10 on the one drive first.19:48
qwebirc412help19:48
qwebirc412stuck at installing ubuntu.19:49
Tecancan someone with ubuntu 18.04 run gimp for me and see if the file menu is there ?19:49
bvargo2enp6s0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hHnPJJXTsV/ vibr0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NSkK3XDy7s/ vibr0-nic http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xpVP2NXh8g/19:49
Tecanon mine its missing19:49
OldHatmadLyfe, I havent used windows in 15 years but I often hear to do windows first.  Also, make sure when you boot install media it is installed as UEFI or dumb stuff happens19:49
Tecaneven tried removing the .gimp2.8 folder from ~19:49
madLyfeOldHat: does it not default or force it to install as uefi if it is set to only uefi in the bios and secure boot is enabled?19:51
OldHatbvargo2, you could've just did show without a device name and got all of that in one screen19:51
OldHatmadLyfe, Not sure because I am not dual booting but I had to selected EFI version of fedora at boot or it wouldnt complete the UEFI partition19:52
madLyfewhat about if im not partitioning but each OS on its own drive?19:53
bvargo2so I could... if I knew what I was doing, I wouldn't be asking for help!  :)19:53
OldHatmadLyfe, your going to need to put grub on the main drive for sure.  These are both installed or is one external ?19:54
madLyfeboth installed. i figured when i installed ubuntu it would 'take care of that'?19:55
OldHatmadLyfe, also had to make efi partition manually but if windows is there first then you will/can reuse19:55
OldHatmadLyfe, "both installed" ?  already ? then ?19:55
madLyfewell i havent put the second drive in yet but i will be soon. i will then install win10 and then ubuntu. i havent done anything yet im just mapping it all out.19:56
OldHatbvargo2, so without a specific device which one shows a DNS ?  since you are connected somehow19:57
bvargo2so in my internal network, I always use the 192.168.1.2 but if I ssh 192.168.122.1 (from the local host) it also works19:57
bvargo2OldHat:  I don't you mean.19:57
OldHatmadLyfe, so you installed them separately  and not frankensteining to system together ?19:57
bvargo2the only one that shows any DNS is vbrbr0 and it is IP4.DNS[1] of 8.8.8.819:58
madLyfeOldHat: i havent installed anything yet.19:58
madLyfei will be installing win10 on one ssd and ubuntu desktop on another. ubuntu second.19:58
bvargo2oldhat, which is somewhere between 75 and 175% *slower* than 1.0.0.119:58
bvargo2how to i access keybindings in bitchx?19:59
OldHatbvargo2, nmcli -p -f IP4,IP6  device show           will show different "Device details" for each connected.  the one with  IP4/6.DNS  shows what is connected and its DNS entries19:59
OldHatbvargo2, then virbr is how you are connected and your DNS is google19:59
OldHatbvargo2, pretty sure google is not going to be slow LOL.  But who wants google.20:00
bvargo2oldhat, so the 192.168.1.2 on enp6s0 is bridged to virbr0?20:01
bvargo2if that is how it is working, whatever, i don't care...how do i modify the dns that virbr0 uses?20:01
OldHatmadLyfe, "both installed. i figured when i installed ubuntu...."20:01
madLyfeoh. both installed drives, as in not external drives. if thats what you were referring to?20:02
OldHatbvargo2, not sure how to do that to a vir bridge.  Are you running a VM then through a tunnel ?20:02
bvargo2uhhh...20:03
bvargo2can I pretend I don't have any idea what that means because the answer is "I'm not sure but sort of...though not right this second."20:04
OldHatbvargo2, my notes show     nmcli con mod $DEVICE ipv4.dns 8.8.8.8 ipv6.dns 8.8.8.820:04
OldHat.20:04
OldHatmadLyfe, that is what you were referring to but not what I understood, LOL.20:05
bvargo2alright so I have a few VMs.  one is windows 10 and the other is peppermint 9.20:05
bvargo2oldhat, currently, Oracle VM VirtualBox is not running I believe20:06
bvargo2I have been using rdp to connect to those machines from other ones.20:06
bvargo2but I didn't do anything specific to set them up other than enable it in the VM settings.20:06
OldHatmadLyfe, after installing both the grub update for efi is different.   On Fedora  sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg.   That should detect windows and put it into grub menu20:07
madLyfewhat about ubuntu? im pretty new to nix so not sure about grub and commands.20:08
OldHatbvargo2, maybe your carrier is supplying the DNS automatically.  In NetworkManager you can set DNS automatic to off then add all the DNS you want there20:08
OldHatmadLyfe, havent used ubuntu or mint in a while. Then they were on systemV.   Seems grub2-mkconfig is probably the same except the -o (output) might be a different location20:10
OldHatfret must have gone away.  Hope he figures it out20:12
madLyfeok tyvm. ill just get it going and see what i run across and go from there.20:12
BenderRodriguezlotuspsychje: qemu/kvm20:13
BenderRodriguezlinux20:13
smacktalkI'm trying to set up kodi on my new ubuntu studio box...all the ports are closed such that I can't access the web page20:13
smacktalkhow do I open the ports?20:13
bvargo2comcast is not supplying 8.8.8.820:13
OldHatmadLyfe, if you windows is going to be clean install, ie empty then I wouldnt worry much20:14
madLyfeya its going to be a fresh install20:15
OldHatmadLyfe, find out the dir structure ubuntu uses and follow on how to update EFI grub20:15
tomreynsmacktalk: any application that needs to will listen on the ports they need to listen on. works fine unless it's ports 1-1024 in which case they'd need to run / start as root to do that. maybe you have a firewall getting in the way.20:15
OldHatmadLyfe, also since two different drive = less problem20:15
OldHatmadLyfe,  just need to boot from one with EFIgrub20:15
madLyfethats another thing someone mentioned. separate drives = win.20:16
OldHatmadLyfe, else you will have to load two drives each time20:16
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tomreynsmacktalk: ..or a lack of routing / NAT / port forwarding20:16
OldHatmadLyfe, boot on linux one.  You will learn to forget window LOL20:16
bvargo2oldhat, fwiw, the primary carrier-provided DNS is 71.242.0.1220:17
bvargo2no...20:17
Skateboardhello im have one problem20:17
bvargo2oldhat, fwiw, the primary carrier-provided DNS is 75.75.75.7520:17
madLyfesomeone was saying you can just load that windows drive into nix?20:17
SkateboardI have a memory problem, ram who can help me?20:17
OldHatbvargo2, maybe Distro default.  Anyhow, with all the VMs you have going you must know some IP stuff. IDK what rdp is even20:17
tomreynSkateboard: hi. probbaly a lot of people here can help, but only if you'll provide more details.-20:18
OldHatbvargo2, my notes show     nmcli con mod $DEVICE ipv4.dns 8.8.8.8 ipv6.dns 8.8.8.8    = pick the device and change 8.8.8.8   to  your DNSs   seperated by ,20:21
OldHatmadLyfe, you might be able to VM the windows drive but that is not going to work well unless you have fast and capable processor and a LOT of RAM20:22
smacktalkI enabled 8080 on the ufw native firewall20:22
Skateboardhello friend, im have one problem20:22
SkateboardI have a memory problem, ram who can help me?20:22
tomreynBenderRodriguez: did you just respond to a question asked in response to your first question 4 hours ago? :)20:22
smacktalkzenmap says no ports are listening for the whole box20:22
bvargo2oldhat, maybe that needs a sudo?20:23
smacktalkI don't think I need NAT when it's all in the same subnet20:23
smacktalknot accessing from outside20:23
tomreynBenderRodriguez: helping you diagnose kvm issues may seem difficult at this rate20:23
OldHatmadLyfe, gnome-boxes can do that I guess, but I havent tried it20:23
tomreynSkateboard: <tomreyn> Skateboard: hi. probbaly a lot of people here can help, but only if you'll provide more details.-20:23
Skateboardtomreyn:  not have ram https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YRx72cTsJ9/20:24
Skateboardtomreyn: he tells me that I have no ram, and he closes everything suddenly.20:24
tomreynSkateboard: df stands for 'disk free', refers to unallocated space on file systems, not 'RAM20:24
tomreynSkateboard: run this, paste the http address here: dmesg | pastebinit20:25
OldHatbvargo2, uh, probably.  also probably want to do that offline so when connects again it uses correct dns  IF FORGOT TO ADD ipv4.ignore-auto-dns ipv6.ignore-auto-dns     or it will use carrier defaults20:25
tomreynSkateboard: if you dont have pastebinit, use this instead: dmesg | nc termbin.com 999920:26
Skateboardwait20:26
OldHatbvargo2, that is I not IF FORGOT20:26
Skateboardtomreyn:  sorry im italian https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vjtCqMp5N3/20:26
Skateboardtomreyn:  not have space20:27
bvargo2so if you look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vWmjkSMWDQ/20:27
OldHatSkateboard, no Post then ?  Beeps when turn on maching then hangs/dies ?20:27
bvargo2it shows that ipv4.dns is 1.0.0.1 but if you look at the bottom, IP4.DNS[1] is 8.8.8.820:27
OldHatSkateboard, if you have ZERO RAM system will not boot20:28
tomreynSkateboard: your root file system ( "/" ) at /dev/sda2 is full, right.20:28
SkateboardOldHat: no, it turns on, but it crashes after a while, I can not turn on anything, even firefox20:28
bvargo2and if I try to modify IP4.DNS[1]:  Error: invalid or not allowed setting 'IP4': 'IP4' not among [connection, bridge, 802-3-ethernet (ethernet), ipv4, ipv6].20:28
tomreynSkateboard: run: export LANG=C; free -m | nc termbin.com 999920:29
Skateboardtomreyn:  impossible full, just formatted20:29
tomreynSkateboard: i'm not sure what you mean to say20:30
ryuoif it's full, it's full. somehow it got filled up.20:30
Skateboardwait tomreyn20:30
tomreynSkateboard: oh you're saying that the file system should not be fully allocated, yet, because this is a fresh installation.20:30
Skateboardtomreyn:  http://termbin.com/dgkx20:30
tomreynokay so RAM is not an immediate problem20:31
tomreynjust disk space20:31
Skateboardtomreyn:  yes im have 500 HDD and memory 4GB20:31
OldHatbvargo2, I had said IDK about doing this on vir device. Also needs to be offline because that changes config directly which is use on connection load.   Also it is " ip4.dns " etc.  It changes the by tags in the paste you just sent, although doesnt seem to need capital letters20:31
OldHatSkateboard, do a memory test at start.  Also could be RAM overheating20:32
Skateboardtomreyn: what's the command to see the system?20:33
OldHatbvargo2, man nmcli20:33
SkateboardOldHat: how you do it? : D20:33
OldHatSkateboard, inxi -m20:34
Skateboardnot installed OldHat20:35
Skateboardnot have ram OldHat -.-20:35
OldHatSkateboard, you CANNOT even post without RAM.  My guess would be it is overheating and "passing out"20:36
OldHatSkateboard, install inxi20:36
OldHatSkateboard, also, gnome setting -> details will show ram20:37
SkateboardOldHat:  and so what is it? firefox closes automatically giving errors20:37
OldHatSkateboard, if ram i problem then whole system will die, not just firefox20:37
SkateboardOldHat:  -.-20:38
OldHatSkateboard, also, please try another paste site as that one seems insecurely setup20:38
SkateboardOldHat:  wait20:38
OldHattomreyn,  I didnt see the paste.  Is a swap thing maybe ?20:39
tomreynSkateboard: alias p='nc termbin.com 9999'; export LANG=C; sudo du -sht1048576 /.[!.]* /*|sort -hr|p20:39
tomreynOldHat: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YRx72cTsJ9/20:39
bvargo2alright, thanks for the help20:40
Skateboardwait OldHat20:40
tomreynOldHat: free output http://termbin.com/dgkx20:40
tomreyn* free -m20:40
OldHatSkateboard, your efi is and root are full.  Time to do some cleaning LOL20:41
tomreynSkateboard: firefox requires disk space to work., your disk is full.20:41
Skateboardtomreyn:  OldHat rejoin ok? wait20:41
OldHatSkateboard, tomreyn some home doesnt have a separate partition ?20:42
OldHattomreyn, how many efi installs does skate have ?!20:43
tomreynOldHat: Skateboards' home is not on a separate partition, that's correct. a common setup for desktop installations.20:45
tomreynOldHat: i dont know what you mean about their number of 'efi installs'20:46
tomreyni assume they have the default of one efi nvram, and one ESP.20:46
tomreynbut i don't (yet?) see how this is relevant here20:47
OldHattomreyn, nvm the efi part.  I read that as space left, not space used.  I always have a separate home personally20:49
tomreynOldHat: i see. the only, but relevant, issue is /20:49
Morpheus90tomreyn:  and OldHat they are helping me in the Italian channel, if I can do some command I will write to you20:49
OldHatskateboard is out in the atlantic by the timezone20:49
tomreynapparently Morpheus90 == skareboard20:50
tomreyn!next20:50
Morpheus90si tomreyn OldHat im skateboard sorry,20:51
tomreynno problema, good luck.20:52
edmooreis there a list of issues with the .1 release that means it's not being pushed to ltsupgrades yet?20:52
edmooreit's been like 3 weeks, i don't remember it ever taking so long, but i don't always pay attention20:53
Morpheus90tomreyn:  and OldHat https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/24FCgk3HxB/20:53
tomreynedmoore: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html20:54
OldHatMorpheus90, you need to clean the hard drive are that will crash all the time when you try stuff.  Copy video and large pictures to external backup so you have "room to move"20:55
edmooreperfect thanks tomreyn20:55
edmooreso it might happen this week20:55
Morpheus90OldHat:  impossible that I have no space, I have nothing ...20:55
tomreynedmoore: this / next week, depending on whether you're american or sane. ;-P20:56
fretegiOldHat, so just gives a message about 'stop media running' and then lists all the mounts20:56
OldHatMorpheus90, not impossible if that is what your own system says20:56
fretegiOldHat, after timing out, then they umount and shutdown finishes20:56
edmooretomreyn: now to now+7days20:57
OldHatfretegi, that is what firewalld and lvm do to me on occassion but LVM less so now.  I dont want to mess with firewalld part, LOL20:57
tomreynedmoore: yes, i'm just mocking about how there are places where the next week starts on a sunday, not on a monday.20:57
Morpheus90OldHat:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xYR32fGPkF/20:57
OldHattomreyn, what the hell is sane anymore ?20:58
edmooretomreyn: yes, hurts my brain. time and timezones are complicated20:58
fretegiOldHat, well i do have firewalld running, but as i said, if i umount the shares prior to the shutdown, smooth as butter ha20:58
OldHattomreyn, LOL  Didnt see that coming20:58
prolyricsguyHello, l am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs20:59
prolyricsguyType one of the folIowing commands to dispIay the Iyrics of that song20:59
prolyricsguyAvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up)20:59
arunz!rickroll20:59
prolyricsguy Now l'm singing in a channel, please wait20:59
tomreyn!ops | prolyricsguy20:59
ubottuprolyricsguy: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax20:59
OldHatfretegi, when you unmount manually the log should show the process. Maybe there you can see some service priority that operates differently on shutdown20:59
prolyricsguyWe're no strangers to Iove20:59
prolyricsguyYou know the rules and so do I20:59
prolyricsguyA full commitment's what I'm thinking of21:00
prolyricsguyYou wouldn't get this from any other guy21:00
tomreyn!ops | arunz21:00
ubottuarunz: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax21:00
prolyricsguyI just wanna tell you how I'm feeling21:00
prolyricsguyGotta make you understand21:00
prolyricsguyrefrain begin:21:00
arunz  Tomreyn: problems?21:00
prolyricsguyNever gonna give you up21:00
prolyricsguyNever gonna let you down21:00
arunzIt's not my bot21:00
prolyricsguyNever gonna run around and desert you21:00
tomreynOldHat: you didnt see what coming?21:00
prolyricsguyNever gonna make you cry21:00
prolyricsguyNever gonna say goodbye21:00
prolyricsguyNever gonna tell a lie and hurt you21:00
prolyricsguyrefrain end21:01
prolyricsguyWe've known each other for so long21:01
prolyricsguyYour heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it21:01
prolyricsguyInside we both know what's been going on21:01
pauljwlol21:01
prolyricsguyWe know the game and we're gonna play it21:01
OldHatMorpheus90, you really should back up large files off your drive.  Stuff like .iso, videos, large picture files21:01
prolyricsguyAnd if you ask me how I'm feeling21:01
prolyricsguyDon't tell me you're too blind to see21:01
prolyricsguy~REFRAIN X2~21:01
prolyricsguy(Give you up)21:01
prolyricsguy(Ooh) Never gonna give, never gonna give21:01
prolyricsguy(Give you up)21:01
prolyricsguyWe've known each other for so long21:01
prolyricsguyYour heart's been aching but you're too shy to say it21:02
prolyricsguyInside we both know what's been going on21:02
arunzNext-gen rickroll21:02
prolyricsguyWe know the game and we're gonna play it21:02
prolyricsguyI just wanna tell you how I'm feeling21:02
prolyricsguyGotta make you understand21:02
prolyricsguy/REFRAIN X2/21:02
Morpheus90OldHat:  ok resolved21:02
arunzRip21:02
prolyricsguyI'm done, you can run commands now21:02
Morpheus90OldHat:  this 400 gb  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qPZQg4dwnG/21:02
OldHatSo how this song is lost without visuals or a voice21:02
arunz!despacito21:02
prolyricsguyNow I'm singing in a channel, pIease wait21:02
prolyricsguyHay21:03
prolyricsguyFonsi!21:03
prolyricsguyDY21:03
prolyricsguyHoh21:03
prolyricsguyOh n0, oh no21:03
prolyricsguyOh yeah21:03
prolyricsguyDiridiri, dirididi Daddy21:03
prolyricsguyGo21:03
prolyricsguySí, sabes que ya llevo un rato mirándote21:03
prolyricsguyTengo que bailar contigo hoy (DY)21:03
prolyricsguyVi que tu mirada ya estaba llamándome21:03
prolyricsguyMuéstrame el camino que yo voy (Oh)21:04
prolyricsguyTú, tú eres el imán y yo soy el metal21:04
prolyricsguyMe voy acercando y voy armando el plan21:04
prolyricsguySolo con pensarlo se acelera el pulso (Oh yeah)21:04
prolyricsguyYa, ya me está gustando más de lo normal21:04
prolyricsguyTodos mis sentidos van pidiendo más21:04
prolyricsguyEsto hay que tomarlo sin ningún apuro21:04
OldHatum, WTF.  Where a boot when you need it21:04
prolyricsguyrefrain begin:21:04
smacktalkis there a native fw in place with new ubuntu installs?21:04
prolyricsguyDespacito21:04
prolyricsguyQuiero respirar tu cuello despacito21:04
prolyricsguyDeja que te diga cosas al oído21:04
prolyricsguyPara que te acuerdes si no estás conmigo21:04
prolyricsguyDespacit021:05
OldHatsmacktalk, firewalld maybe but doesnt come with a gui by default21:05
prolyricsguyQuiero desnudarte a besos despacito21:05
prolyricsguyFirmo en las paredes de tu laberinto21:05
prolyricsguyY hacer de tu cuerpo todo un manuscrito (sube, sube, sube)21:05
prolyricsguy(Sube, sube)21:05
prolyricsguyQuiero ver bailar tu pelo21:05
prolyricsguyQuiero ser tu ritmo21:05
prolyricsguyQue le enseñes a mi boca21:05
OldHatsmacktalk, sudo firewalld status21:05
prolyricsguyTus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)21:05
smacktalkzenmapping from another system is coming up with all ports blocking21:05
prolyricsguyDéjame sobrepasar tus zonas de peligro21:05
prolyricsguyHasta provocar tus gritos21:05
prolyricsguyY que olvides tu apellido21:05
prolyricsguyrefrain end21:06
prolyricsguySi te pido un beso ven dámelo21:06
prolyricsguyYo sé que estás pensándolo21:06
prolyricsguyLlevo tiempo intentándolo21:06
prolyricsguyMami, esto es dando y dándolo21:06
prolyricsguySabes que tu corazón conmigo te hace bom, bom21:06
prolyricsguySabes que esa beba está buscando de mi bom, bom21:06
prolyricsguyVen prueba de mi boca para ver cómo te sabe21:06
prolyricsguyQuiero, quiero, quiero ver cuánto amor a ti te cabe21:06
prolyricsguyYo no tengo prisa, yo me quiero dar el viaje21:06
prolyricsguyEmpecemos lento, después salvaje21:06
prolyricsguyPasito a pasito suave suavecito21:06
prolyricsguyNos vamos pegando poquito a poquito21:07
prolyricsguyCuando tú me besas con esa destreza21:07
OldHatsmacktalk, firewall-config.noarch  for a gui21:07
prolyricsguyVeo que eres malicia con delicadeza21:07
prolyricsguyPasito a pasito, suave suavecito21:07
prolyricsguyNos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito21:07
prolyricsguyY es que esa belleza es un rompecabezas21:07
prolyricsguyPero pa montarlo aquí tengo la pieza21:07
prolyricsguy~REFRAIN~21:07
prolyricsguyDespacito21:07
prolyricsguyVamos a hacerlo en una playa en Puerto Rico21:07
prolyricsguyHasta que las olas griten "¡ay, bendito!"21:07
prolyricsguyPara que mi sello se quede contigo21:08
prolyricsguyPasito a pasito, suave suavecit021:08
OldHat...and this jukebox it lame.  Play some honky-tonk while I go get a beer21:08
prolyricsguyNos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito21:08
prolyricsguyQue le enseñes a mi boca21:08
prolyricsguyTus lugares favoritos (favoritos, favoritos baby)21:08
prolyricsguyPasito a pasito, suave suavecito21:08
prolyricsguyNos vamos pegando, poquito a poquito21:08
prolyricsguyHasta provocar tus gritos21:08
prolyricsguyY que olvides tu apellido (DY)21:08
prolyricsguyDespacito21:08
prolyricsguyI'm done, you can run commands now21:08
arunzProfessional jukebox21:09
smacktalkfirewalld not found...it's not installed21:09
tomreynsmacktalk: what is it that you're trying to do there?21:09
arunz!rickroll21:10
prolyricsguy Now l'm singing in a channel, please wait21:10
tomreynbtw. everyone might want to: /ignore *!~lyrics@*21:10
prolyricsguyWe're no strangers to Iove21:10
smacktalktrying to get kodi's web interface to be reachable21:10
tomreynsmacktalk: from where, and where does kodi run?21:10
tomreyni'm not asking for ip addresses, but for an explanation of your network layout21:11
tomreynyou probably have some client accessing some server running ubuntu, with kodi installed. kodi will be listening on some port, probably tcp, which one?21:12
tomreynwhat is between the client and the server?21:12
smacktalk808021:13
tomreynare you able to access kodi form the server itself, using netcat, curl or wget?21:13
tomreyn*from21:13
smacktalkno21:13
tomreynso if you run "nc -vv localhost 8080"  on the server it says connection refused?21:14
smacktalki have it turned on, bu just grepped for 8080 with netstat and it's not there21:14
smacktalklemme try that21:14
smacktalksays connection refused21:14
smacktalkdang21:15
smacktalkguess it's not running21:15
smacktalkshooooot!21:15
tomreynit may be only binding to your servers' external ip address21:16
tomreynone of these, probably: ip a | awk '/^ *inet/ { print $2}'21:16
prolyricsguyHello, l am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs21:19
tomreynsmacktalk: for ip in $(ip a | awk '/^ *inet/ { print $2}' | cut -d/ -f1); do nc -vvnzw1 $ip 8080; done21:19
tomreyn...to 'scan' all ip addresses on all interfaces21:20
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qwebirc37243Best way to create a bootable Win10 USB in Ubuntu, GO!21:21
projukeboxHello, l am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs21:21
smacktalki did a zenmap scan21:22
Guest32517ssh'ed to a to a box and the session periodically hangs for 10-90secs or so... nothting in the syslog ... thoughts on how to find root cause?21:22
smacktalknow trying to make sure kodi is listening on 808021:22
projukeboxHello, l am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs21:23
projukeboxHeIIo, l am yrics professional bot. I am work-in progress, so, expect bugs21:24
Exterminadorhello guys. suddenly, I'm having some errors denying access from the correct user with correct permissions to a file. the errors are in lines from 14 to 17: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8rVqYdZkzT/21:26
Exterminadorany ideas are highly appreciated (the output is from kern.log)21:27
tomreyn!rootirc | root____21:28
ubotturoot____: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.21:28
root____leave21:28
sonicwindqwebirc37243, this link was shared earlier in #ubuntu-discuss - http://www.webupd8.org/2017/06/tool-to-create-bootable-windows-usb.html#more21:28
musicguyHeIIo guyz, l am yrics professionaI bot21:29
musicguyType one of the folIowing commands to display the Iyrics of that song21:29
musicguyAvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up), !stilldre21:29
musicguyHeIIo guyz, l am yrics professionaI bot21:30
musicguyType one of the folIowing commands to display the Iyrics of that song21:30
Tin__manto bad you can't ban pippo, and his bot21:30
musicguyAvaiIable commands: !despacito, !rickroll (never gonna give you up), !stilldre21:30
Tin__manthe killing every min. is tiresome21:31
pippoIm pippo hello21:31
Tin__manpippo, go play with your bot somewhere else..21:31
pippo?21:31
musicguyHeIIo guyz, l am yrics professionaI bot21:32
musicguyType one of the folIowing commands to display the Iyrics of that song21:32
ryuolol21:32
pippoHey im pippo21:33
tomreynExterminador: why would quassel read a postgresql admin password from /root ?21:33
paip!stilldre21:40
paip!despacito21:41
musicguyNow I'm singing in a channel, pIease wait21:41
musicguyHay21:41
musicguyFonsi!21:41
musicguyDY21:41
musicguyHoh21:41
musicguyOh n0, oh no21:41
Tin__manyea21:41
paipHey21:41
Exterminadorwell, I've installed it via a PPA, and usually the working directory and stuff belong to quasselcore user, group quassel21:42
tomreynExterminador: this doesn't answer my question, though. why would an irc client access a postgreql password file in the /root directory?21:42
Tin__manglad to see some authority on board21:43
Wild_ManIndeed21:43
Exterminadorperhaps because I've set the .pgpass file over there?21:44
Exterminadorfor adding/removing users from the database, as there's no way from doing it from the client. as quasselcore acts like a bouncer21:45
tomreynExterminador: okay, so apparently this is acceptable to you. i would be owrried if an irc client would be access any password files in roots' home directory.21:45
tomreynExterminador: maybe quasselcore should have its own postgresql password and user to access the datanbase it needs to access, instead of grating it full authority?21:46
tomreynit's uncommon (and usually unsafe) for non root user owned processes to access files in /root21:47
Exterminadorit does have that. only that I've made that hacky shell script for easily add users from command line21:47
Exterminadorin this case it's me (as root) that is accessing quassel database faking myself as Quassel user21:48
tomreynExterminador: i guess it's like this: read root's password as root, or the restricted users' password as the restricted user, and it'll be fine.21:51
Exterminadorgotcha21:52
Exterminadorheh. su quasselcore then executing the command to add an user worked. :x21:55
Exterminadorthanks tomreyn!21:56
tomreynwelcome, glad oyou worked it out21:56
Exterminadorwell, next time I'll leave files in the place/user they belong, instead trying to act like a smart guy. xD22:00
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qwebirc51524http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/proftpd/ is currently empty.. anyone know anything?22:12
someone_How can I make older kernel the default kernel ?22:13
Ben64qwebirc51524: doesn't exist22:14
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qwebirc51524Ben64: but why?22:17
Ben64because it doesn't22:18
Ben64oh, there's a proftpd-basic22:19
qwebirc51524i see reference to proftpd-basic but don't see it in the repository nor can i install it from apt-get22:23
Ben64what's the output of lsb_release -d22:24
qwebirc51524Description:    Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS22:25
Ben64!info proftpd-basic22:25
ubottuproftpd-basic (source: proftpd-dfsg): Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon - binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.5e-1build1 (bionic), package size 2016 kB, installed size 4618 kB22:25
Ben64you need universe repo enabled, but it's there22:25
qwebirc51524Thank you22:26
qwebirc51524That did it.22:27
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fluorineHey there!22:33
fluorineI'm having a bit of a problem regarding "freewheeling".22:33
fluorineWhen trying to start the program after apt-get install freewheeling, I get a huge log and "Did you run 'make install'?"22:34
fluorineexecuting the program simply won't work22:34
confluencyfluorine: what version of Ubuntu? And pastebin the entire error message.22:38
lapionSo ubuntu 16.04.4 still doesn't recognise 18.04.1 as LTS22:43
lapionand thus 16.04.4 doesn't offer the upgrade as of yet22:44
tomreynlapion: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-August/004556.html22:50
asdhello22:53
asdasad22:54
BenderRodrigueztomreyn: well22:54
BenderRodriguezi had to22:54
tomreynBenderRodriguez: looks like this situation keeps repeating22:55
tomreynI already forgot what you asked22:56
BenderRodriguezmy ubuntu VM is incredibly slow23:02
BenderRodriguezand I need to find out why23:02
transhumanisthi can anyone do me a favor and check and see if https://www.msnbc.com site under chrome comes up as "insecure"23:14
Computranshumanist: shows as not secure for me23:17
guiverc_dtranshumanist, i don't see a Ubuntu issue there, the site does NOT use ssl23:17
transhumanistinteresting23:17
transhumanistok just wanted to make sure my system wasn't the cause23:17
Compuye23:17
transhumanistIn the past I have had issues with ssl certificates giving warnings23:17
Compuif it was that u would get an actual warning, in this case the site is just redirecting from https to http23:18
guiverc_dtranshumanist, just copy the url & paste into a editor  (one that doesn't do anything fancy with links)23:18
transhumanistgood idea guiverc_d I have done that in the past, but on an older build I kept on getting issues with chrome and certificates when I launched chrome from a terminal, at the time I reported the issue, just wanted to make sure it wasn't happening again23:20
transhumanistthanks23:20
guiverc_d:)23:20
Compuif it's only from the terminal then maybe theres some launch options in the .desktop file that ur not using23:20
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Compuif that's the case and u don't wanna type in the launch options each time just make a shell script u can launch23:22
transhumanistthanks thats a good thing to check Compu23:22
transhumanistseems though with the latest chrome the terminal is now quiet23:23
Compu*shrug*23:23
transhumanistbefore it used to dump a lot of crap23:23
oryoishi , i have access to ubuntu shell , but i forget root password23:25
oryoishow can i rest it23:25
oryoisits on vm23:25
freedom325sudo passwd root23:27
oryoisfreedom325, idk root pass23:29
oryoisi forget it23:29
djapohow can i get grub to load kernel modules23:32
djapo?23:32
djapoat boot with options23:32
djapoIdeally im looking to add something to this line that would do what i want23:33
djapoGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet amd_iommu_dump=1 ignore_loglevel log_buf_len=16M"23:33
guiverc_doryois, try the command; it will ask for your sudo (user) password23:33
guiverc_ddjapo, if you want to test the params; you can hit <E> to edit the line at grub, and add them to `linux` line..23:34
djapoguiverc_d: i know that line works, I want to edit it to include kernel modules to lload23:36
guiverc_dlook at `/etc/default/grub` ..  ; an `update-grub` will re-create the grub.cfg file..23:38
oryoisguiverc_d, i did : sudo passwd root23:38
oryoisits ask me for a pass23:38
guiverc_dhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 djapo23:39
oryoisbut i forget the root pass23:39
tomreynoryois: it asks for your users' password there23:39
djapoguiverc_d: i know how to rebuild the grub.cfg .. it looks like what i was looking for is /etc/modules-load.d/23:39
djapoguiverc_d: ^23:39
tomreynoryois: so it's not asking for the root password.23:39
oryoiswhen i type sudo passwd root23:40
ryuodjapo: so you're wanting to include more modules..?23:40
oryoisits ask for password23:40
Flanneloryois: Correct.  It is asking for your current user password.  The user you're using to enter the command with.23:40
ryuodjapo: if you change anything related to modprobe or that, you may need to regenerate initramfs. see man update-initramfs.23:40
guiverc_doryois, yes, your password is required (assuming you have `sudo` privileges)23:41
guiverc_dsorry Flannel23:41
Flannelguiverc_d: No worries.  I'm not the first to say that, I'm hoping you'll be the last :)23:41
oryoisguiverc_d, Flannel , im logged in as a normal user with no privilge and i forget root password23:42
oryoisso im trying to get back to the root23:42
Flanneloryois: Is your "normal user" able to sudo for things?23:42
oryoisno23:42
confluencyoryois: sudo is asking for YOUR password, not the root password.23:42
Flanneloryois: Then you can't use sudo.23:42
oryoisFlannel, then how can i get my root back23:43
oryois?23:43
confluencyoryois: are you sure your normal user can't sudo?23:43
oryoisyes23:43
oryoisits ask for a password23:43
oryoisi did it23:43
oryoisits say wrong23:43
djaporyuo: it doesn't look like i woulld if i use that static files23:43
confluencyoryois: do you understand what sudo does in general, and what we're asking?23:43
Flanneloryois: If it said wrong, then that's not you not being able to sudo.23:43
oryoisconfluency, yes sudo is for root23:43
confluencyoryois: no.23:43
Flanneloryois: please paste (in this channel) the output of `groups`23:44
tomreynoryois: when you install ubuntu, it will setup a restricted user, and a password for this user. and it will setup a root user, without any password. did you change this configuration?23:44
oryoisconfluency, im using user welcome and when i type group its show welcome23:44
ryuodjapo: -shrug- sometimes config files get copied into initramfs because they need to be there in early boot for them to actually do anything, like module blacklisting.23:44
confluencyoryois: sudo is for temporarily elevating privileges *without* switching to the root user.23:44
Flanneltomreyn: "without any password" is technically true, but it sounds ominous.  Probably better to say "locked"23:44
oryoistomreyn, i forget the root and this is just a bash23:45
oryoisnot a gui23:45
oryoisim only can type on the machine as a terminal23:45
tomreynFlannel: i guess you have a point.23:45
Flanneloryois: GUI or terminal don't change the user situation at all.23:45
oryoisim trying to recover my root back23:45
Flanneloryois: If you're only in the group "welcome", then you won't be able to use sudo.23:45
confluencyoryois: what is this machine? A remote server? How did you set it up?23:45
djaporyuo: that happens i modprobe.d23:45
oryoisconfluency, a vmware machine23:46
Flannelanyway, looks like we've got plenty of cooks.  I'm going to bow out.23:46
oryoiswith somefiles23:46
oerheksconfluency, read back, he is on a shell, in a vm .. and forgot root password23:46
ryuodjapo: right... well, same could apply here.23:46
oryoisso how can i get my root back?23:46
oerheksoryois, use the !password factoid23:47
oerheks!password23:47
ubottuForgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords23:47
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oryois-bash !password : event not found23:48
tomreynoryois: just read what ubottu  told you23:49
oryoisubottu, thanks i did it23:49
ubottuoryois: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:49
oerheksnot sure the factoid is valid for WSL23:50
tomreyninit=/bin/bash still works on 18.04.1, just tested.23:52
tomreynoh but kernel panics if you exit23:54

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