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naccroadkill: this works fine with Windows?00:00
roadkillyep00:00
naccroadkill: have you tried the OSI hacks to fake Windows in Linux? TJ has an article for it, iirc00:00
nacci wonder if it's an ACPI issue00:00
roadkillit simply doesn't show up in linux00:00
roadkillamerican megatrends bios. looks like the oem didn't block a single option.00:01
roadkillnacc: OSI hacks? Huh. No, haven't tried that00:01
naccroadkill: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html00:02
naccroadkill: i would try that, tbh; see if it makes any difference first00:03
roadkillrebooting.00:04
roadkillcouldn't find a single mention of wifi in the bios before. was looking for switch to disable bluetooth there.00:04
roadkilllsusb and rfkill list all still identical. hmm.00:05
roadkillyeah. no wifi still.00:07
roadkilladding the new intel iwlwifi firmwares. there aren't identical filenames in /lib/firmware00:10
naccroadkill: ... did you do what that page said?00:11
lotuspsychjeroadkill: how are your uefi settings, fastboot & secureboot?00:11
naccroadkill: or are you trying other things?00:11
tomreynfirmware update is here, if any http://www.teclast.com/en/firmware/00:11
roadkillnacc: I did what the page said. No difference. Already ran the osi script and rebooted twice.00:11
naccroadkill: oh ok00:11
roadkillCan't find the relevant download for this ID number! <--- device is too new.00:12
roadkilllotuspsychje: fastboot disabled. secureboot disabled.00:12
lotuspsychjeok tnx00:13
lotuspsychjeroadkill: still would liek to see a realtime tail please00:14
roadkillSouthbridge chipset options in bios even has an OS Selection field.00:14
lotuspsychjewanna see what this device does exactly00:14
roadkilllotuspsychje: what do I do to give you that?00:14
lotuspsychjeroadkill: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug out/plug in your device00:15
roadkillit's built into the motherboard.00:15
roadkillnot a usb stick I can unplug.00:15
lotuspsychjedidnt you say it was a stick?00:16
roadkillNo, I said it's a usb connected device built into the motherboard.00:16
roadkillas opposed to sdio.00:16
lotuspsychjeah kk00:16
lotuspsychjeroadkill: then just disable wifi, and enable again please?00:17
roadkillI wish it was just a stick: I could easily find a more linux friendly one to use.00:17
roadkillwifi doesn't show up. At all. Nothing for me to click on to disable.00:17
lotuspsychjeroadkill: even after a network-manager restart?00:17
roadkillDoesn't show up in the networking panel icon.00:17
roadkilli'll try that now.00:17
roadkill(I remember when having an all-intel device used to me pretty good luck in Linux distros. Heh.)00:18
roadkillsince adding intel firmware, still no wifi, module doesn't show when I grep dmesg, rfkill list all still only shows bluetooth.00:20
roadkillthis thread is about a lenovo device: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238268200:20
roadkillSo I wouldn't even know what to try blacklisting in this case.00:21
lotuspsychjethats weird even the network/wifi icon show00:21
lotuspsychjedoesnt00:21
lotuspsychjeroadkill: you sure you dont have a switch to enable/disable or so?00:22
lotuspsychjeroadkill: and when you installed ubuntu, did setup have an internet connection?00:23
roadkillupdated dmesg00:25
roadkillhttps://pastebin.com/K82QuY2v00:25
roadkilllotuspsychje: Setup did not have an internet connection until I plugged in my USB Ethernet dongle.00:25
roadkillBuilt-in Wifi was not found/usable during setup.00:25
roadkillThere is no physical switch for wifi on this system.00:25
roadkillThe hardware simply does not show up. Even when you run rfkill00:26
lotuspsychjeroadkill: did any ubuntu recognize your chipset before?00:26
roadkillNo. I have only owned this laptop for 4 days.00:27
roadkillWifi works in Windows10.00:27
lotuspsychjeroadkill: i would go for 2 tests, that firmware tomreyn suggested and perhaps play with !mainline higher kernel?00:28
lotuspsychjeroadkill: perhaps also consider a new !bug for this special case00:28
roadkillhttps://pastebin.com/HwK8gQre00:28
roadkillrat@Groundsel:~$ uname -a00:28
roadkillLinux Groundsel 4.15.0-33-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 15 16:00:05 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux00:28
roadkillThe link that tomreyn provided has no files for this device.00:29
roadkillIt's literally brand new. Released Sept 1st00:29
ecormierroadkill: what is the wifi card model?00:29
roadkillthough the chipset is a bit older than that you'd think it'd be supported if the same chipset in NUCs run fine.00:30
roadkillIntel Wireless-AC 316500:30
roadkillGemini Lake chipset/SOC00:30
roadkillecormier: Bluetooth and Wifi are on the same chipset, bluetooth works, wifi doesn't show up at all.00:30
tomreynput it in a drawer, go for holidays for a month or two, get it back from the drawer -> works.00:31
roadkilltomreyn: lol... I have done that before. ;) Unfortunately Bought this thing to use for the holidays due to its size.00:31
ecormierroadkill: did you read this: https://codeyarns.com/2017/02/04/how-to-make-intel-wireless-ac-3165-work-in-ubuntu/00:32
roadkillso I guess I'll have to use Win10 with it when I'm travelling.00:32
tomreynthen attach a wireless dongle or replace the minipci card, in case it's not actually soldered on.00:32
roadkillYep. Even manually updated the kernel to the newest. Wifi still doesn't exist.00:32
roadkillIt's soldered to the motherboard I'm afraid.00:32
roadkillso I guess I'll dongle it.00:32
tomreyndid you try the acpi experiments?00:33
tomreynmaybe it's really just exposed to windows00:33
roadkillThat's my fear.00:33
tomreynthen that's what you should try00:33
roadkillBios even has a southbridge chipset OS setting though. Linux, MSDos, Windows, Android...00:33
roadkillI ran acpi_osi.sh. No changes.00:34
lotuspsychjeroadkill: also weird bios doesnt show wifi settings, when its fixxed on mobo?00:35
tomreynwhat did you end up with in /etc/default/grub ?00:35
lotuspsychjeroadkill: mobo up to date also?00:35
roadkilllotuspsychje: there is no software available to download for this system. At all. None.00:36
roadkilltomreyn: I ended up with "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=" acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\""00:37
tomreynroadkill: maybe try an earlier one00:37
tomreynsudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort | uniq -c00:37
tomreyn| pastebinit00:37
roadkillthe 2015 setting is the only thing that the script seems to offer.00:37
tomreynroadkill: so the comand i just posted only returns a single line of output?00:38
roadkillhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d6kmVzYsPZ/00:38
roadkillwhen I run acpi_osi.sh, it only offers to add Windows 2015 as an option00:39
tomreynright, i twill only use the latest00:39
tomreynyou can manually try 2013, 201200:39
roadkillah. change the 2015 down then?00:39
tomreynright00:39
tomreynthen update-grub00:40
roadkillrebooting.00:40
tomreynthen reboot, check whether it applied (cat /proc/cmdline)00:40
roadkillchanged it to 201200:40
tomreynthen check whether you have new devices in lspci / lsusb00:40
roadkillproc/cmdline checks out. 2012.00:41
roadkillno change in lspci and lsusb00:41
tomreynso it says ... acp_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012"  ... , right?00:42
roadkillcorrect.00:42
tomreynwell, 2013 then, i guess. but that's all i can think of00:43
roadkillloading the module seems to work, hardware still seems to not be found.00:43
roadkillso weird.00:43
roadkillyeah. just gonna have to use Win10 on the trip then. blech.00:44
roadkillI think the 'put it in a drawer for a few months' might be the only way out of this. dunno if intel or the oem did something funky with old hardware in a new way to break it in linux.00:44
roadkillchanging the grub line to 2013 yielded no differences.00:45
tomreyn:-/ baaad luck.00:45
roadkillyeah. it's usually a safe bet when a device is all intel but... sheesh, not seen something like this in a long time.00:46
roadkillOnly other time I ran into something this unsolvable was when I bought a Sony Vaio P... Intel, Atom... but used PowerVR. The end result meant a screen with 30hz refresh and no acceleration.00:49
lotuspsychjeroadkill: doesnt make sense nothing shows anywhere, did you check textboot see what happens with network?00:51
lotuspsychjeroadkill: your bios hasnt got a 'last state' wifi option somewhere, i seen that block on ubuntu before and work on windows00:52
lotuspsychjeroadkill: or netboot options?00:52
rahulprodevHi if I create 3 partition on installing ubuntu, swap, / (boot partition), and home partition... If in future I have reinstall ubuntu again, Can I install it without disturbing home partition???00:56
rahulprodevI mean I don't want other partition data get deleted...00:56
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fltrzwould anybody outside of europe be so kind to let me ping them? Just mention IP + Continent or Nation. It's for scientific purpouses00:59
fltrzI can clarify why if necessary00:59
tomreynwhy dont you just do it and skip asking? :)01:00
tomreynit's just ping01:00
tomreynalso not related to #ubuntu support01:00
fltrzI had the impression it would be rude?01:00
fltrztomreyn, also, I wouldn't know what continent/nation?01:01
tomreyn/join #ubuntu-offtopic01:01
roadkilllotuspsychje: Sadly, no, not one wifi related option I could see in the bios. And they pretty much left every option unblocked.01:02
lotuspsychjeroadkill: F1 texboot see anything?01:06
gbellinoz@satrioirc am now!01:14
gbellinozThat was awhile ago.  Do you remember what was up?01:14
cim209so i upgraded from 16 to 18, no issues :D01:49
IcemanV9excellent. enjoy it. : )01:54
netkam2is it prefered to install things with snaps01:56
netkam2or use aptitiude01:56
netkam2what problem does snaps solve01:57
cim209what is the shortcut keys to open the panel that shows all the apps i installed?01:57
cim209i'm using cupertino panel01:57
cim209super + k activates some weird animation around my mouse02:17
tomreyn'mouse finder'02:20
cim209it shows stars as it fades away lol02:21
qwefytuoitytyAthlon X4 840 Quad Core, two modules 4 cores, fm2+. Need 4 or 2 control cores? https://screenshots.firefox.com/8PixeHdOSoIM3xct/null in image U-Mate. If the Intel processor with Hyper-Threading technology, it's clear to me. Control of logical cores don't need.02:44
madLyfeso i have 3 internal drives, sda(linuxOS), sdb(win10) and sdc(storage drive). my internal drives sdb and sdc were being auto mounted just fine and i was able to RW with them. today something changed and they are only mounted as RO. also weird is both of those have never shown up in fstab.04:06
madLyfeif i set the drives to RW with a remount, they go back to RO after a reboot.04:06
Ruzzylo04:12
RuzzyMy gnome-terminal text colours are non-default and I want to delete their configs but I can't find it in the usual directories04:12
RuzzyI'm on mint btw04:12
Bashing-om!mint | Ruzzy04:22
ubottuRuzzy: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)04:22
madLyfeturns out is was windows fast boot got enabled somehow. or it was always enabled and only now became an issue.04:46
bynarieRIP nkk7104:51
wendicoGood Morning. I tried to follow a guide to make a team of network cards for faster network transfers. No i have a Bond0 named network but it doesnt work. Can someone point me to a correct guide to team network cards? i dont even have conexion on the machine i tried and i always have to "if config bond0 down" to recover my conexion (even wifi connected at the same time and not part of that team but no internet). Thank you very much05:39
havenstancewendico, which version of Ubuntu are you running?05:40
wendicolast version full updated fresh install05:40
wendicoand i dont mind to install again05:40
havenstanceso 18.04.1?05:40
wendicoyes05:40
wendicoi need a team coz i only have a 100mb switch05:41
wendicoi cant get a 1gb for now05:41
wendicono my NAS transfers are to slow05:41
Ben64gigabit switches can be had for $1005:41
wendiconevertheless not only the switch, my cards are also 10/100 and remember of 3rd world please05:42
wendicoi promise i cant aford05:42
havenstanceso your teaming multiple interfaces on internal LAN?05:43
wendicoyes, i want to team 2 interfaces on 2 ubuntu fresh install machines05:44
wendicoi mean 2 on each machine of course05:44
wendicoenglish 3rd language05:44
havenstanceit's no big deal, I'm pretty good at deciphering lol nothing could be worse than my grandmother trying to text lol05:45
wendicoi followed a guide and resulted on having a "Bond0" network interface i can see on if config but i have not connexion, the guide must be wrong so i can start over no problem05:45
havenstancewendico, I've found a couple of guides, but keep in mind if this server is going to be serving DHCP or NAT it could cause issues having multiple interfaces trying to accomplish this at the same time05:45
wendicocould you point me to the correct guide? thank you05:45
havenstanceI'll paste the links I've not ever actually tried to create something like this but they look very well written and contain the steps I'd take if I were going to do this05:46
havenstancehttps://www.tecmint.com/configure-network-bonding-teaming-in-ubuntu/05:46
wendicohavenstance, dont worry,i want to team on the 2 clients, no server functions05:46
havenstancehttps://cli.pignat.org/server-18.04-network-bond.html05:46
wendicoThank you very much, reading on05:46
havenstanceI hope you're able to figure it out, my recommendation, when you find a guide that does work with whichever version you're using, bookmark it. Never know when you'll have to do something again lol05:47
wendicohavenstance: thank you very much again. i will do bookmark if working05:48
wendicobtw, so i dont need to start again on my test machine, would you mind to share a command to just delete the Bond0 not working inteface i created? Thank you, if not no problem dont worry i just plain install again and start over05:50
havenstanceto be honest, that's something I'm not sure about at all.05:52
wendicothank you, starting live to start again, dont worry i apreciate the help05:52
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wendicoOther cuestion. i installed ubuntu 18 fresh and updated in 2 laptops of my friends, but their "righ click" on the laptop pad dont work, works also as left click like if they have only one botton. Any clue to solve that? i encounter the problem in two diferent not so old laptops05:57
wendicoone of them i have with me so i could try here to solve it then repeat in my other friend. I must use the keyboard "right click key" all the time05:57
wendicoplugin an external mouse works correct, the problem only with the integrated mouse pad05:58
wendicoboth laptops are diferent brands even one is amd other intel but same problem, no right click on integrated laptop pad05:59
wendicoboth integrated pad buttons works as left normal click06:00
wendicoi enabled and disabled all options in mouse configuration windows to text if maybe "2 finger scroll" or any of the other options are messing with my right click but no solved, even if i set on that window my right button as primary i still have both buttons as primary click and i cant acomplish "right click" on my laptop pads06:03
hateballwendico: are you using wayland or xorg?06:04
wendicomy friends are just mad of that and they are trying to get me let them go back to windows06:04
wendiconot sure, reading on it, but i believe xorg06:05
wendicoi am not a profesional just an ubuntu fan06:05
hateballwendico: I just googled, dunno if this is relevant https://itsfoss.com/fix-right-click-touchpad-ubuntu/06:07
wendicoreading on it^^^  thank you let me see if is that06:07
hateballI don't use GNOME myself so I am not too familiar06:07
hateballalso there was a switch from evdev to libinput for touchpad in 18.04 I think? I seem to recall others having troubles with their touchpads with the newer solution06:09
wendicostill reading, im to old, read slow, ill share my findings asap06:12
wendicomeanwhile, why not use gnome? why do u preffer and suggest another desktop enviroment? maybe i should replace gnome aswell06:14
wendicoim installing gnome tewaks allready to try to solve the right click problems06:14
wendicohateball: right click problem solved with your link, bookmarked also hehe, thank you very very much06:20
lotus|NUCwendico: see also dconf-editor to tweak your things06:20
wendicolotus|NUC : installing dconf-editor anyways for more tweaks just in case. thank you for the tip06:22
wendicowow, by the way, i dindt realize is not a problem just a tweak about the right click, i did not know i could right click just by two finger tap, so im reverting the solution since i like even more to right click by two finger tap06:24
wendicoawesome ubuntu!06:25
wendicothank you mates06:25
someone_Hi06:26
wendicoi reverted that way so now i can even have mid click by 3 finger tap and my laptop have not mid click so it is awesome the new working mode,06:26
someone_I'm looking for replacement for redshift Is there any ?06:27
wendicomaybe ubuntu should explain that in the normal mouse configuration window06:27
lotus|NUCsomeone_: gnome has now nightlight on 18.0406:27
wendicoso everybody can notice the 2 finger and 3 finget tap without installing gnome tweaks06:28
ducassesomeone_: https://alternativeto.net/software/redshift/?platform=linux06:28
wendicosomeone_ you can activate nightlight by default on the screen settings no installations need it06:29
cim209hi, i installed a script using the pip install command. tried to run said script but it terminal says command not found06:29
cim209i'm installing this https://github.com/kfei/slack-cleaner06:30
cim209the command "pip list" shows slack-cleaner is installed06:30
blue1.06:33
mobile_chow do i get <keystone/keystone.h06:33
blue1mobile_c: normally that is part of the package you download -- it should be in the package you downloaded06:35
blue1mobile_c: where did you get the source files -- github?06:36
mohnish_Hey guys! I want install ms word on my Ubuntu machine, how do I do that?06:39
mohnish_I already have playonlinux and wine installed06:39
blue1mohnish_: i use libreoffice -- I wouldn't know -- did you try it with wine?06:40
mohnish_blue1: It tells me that I need some sort of file for it06:40
blue1mohnish_: what file?06:41
mohnish_Some iso file to install ms office06:41
blue1mohnish_: libreoffice can import ms word files.06:41
blue1ahh06:41
mohnish_I think is files are used to install distros right?06:42
blue1mohnish_: generally06:42
blue1iso files are normally burned to a dvd or usb -- however there are ways to mount an iso under linux - but in your case -- I don't know where you would find that.06:43
mohnish_Oh06:43
hateballwendico: cool, glad you got it fixed06:44
hateballwendico: I personally use KDE Plasma, I much prefer it06:44
blue1my recommendation would be to use libreoffice - it's free -- and works on linux, mac, and windows06:44
blue1and it can import ms word files06:45
blue1you can do a sudo apt install libreoffice       if you don't like it -- just purge it.06:47
wendicohateball: thank you very much, reading on kde plasma. i owe you a beer06:57
hateballwendico: just pay it forward :)06:58
rajivmarsguys, i am using xubuntu 18.04.1. I wanted to use cairo dock but whenever i am applying this dock then a horizontal transparent strip appears along the dock area. have anybody an idea what is that strip or whether its normal or not?07:02
Joralis it possible to have an ati card and an nvidia card running at the same time?07:02
mobile_calso how do i compile a source file07:09
mobile_cdownloaded by dep07:10
cim209the script i downloaded via pip is in ~/.local/bin but terminal says command not found07:12
cim209what am i doing wrong?07:12
mobile_c.dsc *07:12
mobile_ccim209: look at the first line of the script07:13
cim209#!/usr/bin/python07:13
mobile_cdoes that path exist07:13
cim209no07:13
mobile_cthen thats why07:13
cim209how do i fix this?07:14
mobile_cwich python07:14
mobile_cwhich python07:14
cim209regular, not 307:14
mobile_c$ which python07:14
cim2092.707:15
mobile_c._.07:15
ducassecim209: is ~/.local/bin in your PATH?07:15
cim209yes ducasse07:15
mobile_ctype "which python" in ur shell07:15
cim209mobile_c, i also have 3.6.5 installed07:15
ducasseis it set executable?07:15
cim209oh LOL mobile_c07:15
cim209it's in /usr/bin/python07:16
cim209i'll try that07:16
cim209ducasse, yes, i can run it using python script.py07:16
mobile_chow tf does that both exist and not exist07:16
cim209mobile_c, idk07:16
cim209probably the fact that i upgraded from 16 to 1807:16
mobile_c[17:13] <mobile_c> does that path exist07:16
mobile_c[17:13] <cim209> no07:16
mobile_chow is that even possible07:17
mobile_cdid u actually type "#!/usr/bin/python" itself in the shell07:17
cim209yeah07:18
cim209doesn't output anything07:18
mobile_cremove the #!07:19
mobile_caka type "/usr/bin/python"07:19
cim209i'm in the python terminal now07:19
mobile_cthen it SHOULD work07:19
cim209when i typed /usr/bin/python slack-cleaner, the command works07:20
cim209but not slack-cleaner by itself07:20
mobile_cpaste the output of ./local/bin/script.py07:20
mobile_cand "ls -l ./local/bin/script.py"07:21
cim209https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6q26rwmmXd/07:21
cim209ls -l ~/.local/bin/slack-cleaner07:21
cim209oops sorry lol07:21
cim209-rwxrwxr-x07:22
mobile_cr u using konversation07:22
mobile_cnvm /cmd doesnt post to usr output07:23
cim209idk what konversation is07:23
Aliekezhihi, do you know a good PDF editing software ?07:24
mobile_ccim209: type "ls -l ./local/bin/script.py"07:24
mobile_cfor example07:25
cim209-rwxrwxr-x 1 cim cim 219 Sep  7 00:25 /home/cim/.local/bin/slack-cleaner07:25
mobile_c-rwxrwxr-x  1 mobile_c mobile_c      46752 Aug 27 16:49  wrap07:25
mobile_c._.07:26
mobile_cof script.py, not of slack-cleaner07:26
cim209slack-cleaner doesn't have the .py extension07:26
mobile_cnvm -_-07:29
mobile_cjust join #python07:29
cim209hopefully someone is on07:29
vltHello. How can I determine what components of my Ubuntu desktop are using ghostscript when dealing with PDF files?07:47
obiwahnubuntu14.04> cat /etc/debian_version07:56
obiwahnstretch/sid07:56
Silmarlion_Can anyone recommend a better screenshoot app for Ubuntu 18.04? I would like to have the ability to select the area for which I want to make the screenshot.07:56
obiwahn#fail07:56
ikonia Silmarlion_ scrot ?07:57
obiwahnscrot --select ++07:57
cim209Silmarlion_, ubuntu mate has a screenshot app that does that07:59
cim209though it might be a general ubuntu app08:00
Silmarlion_ok, I will check it08:01
cim209Silmarlion_, the command for mate is mate-screenshot -i08:02
ne2kxenial desktop. what's a sensible way to save different "Screen Display" settings profiles (i.e. number of monitors, relative placement) and switch between them from the CLI? is this stored in a file or is it gconf or dconf or something? (I'm a bit behind the times with how GUI stuff works under the hood)08:15
ryuone2k: xrandr can be used to make changes, but i belive gsettings is how settings are managed now.08:15
ryuone2k: that command can be used to make settings changes, such as the GTK theme.08:16
cim209Silmarlion_, i'm just finding out about https://screencloud.net08:16
ne2kryuo, so gsettings monitor, then make the changes and see what happens, and then use gsettings set to do it programmatically?08:17
ne2khmm. what schema to use?08:17
ryuone2k: i guess, if that exists. you could also try to find the correct schema and key on your own.08:17
ryuone2k: no idea. it varies.08:17
ryuone2k: each DE uses a different one.08:18
Silmarlion_cim209, hm screencloud looks promising, and has possibility to store locally store which is good08:18
cim209ya08:19
cim209multiple sources too08:19
ne2kryuo, tried grepping gsettings list-schemas for display, monitor, screen, unity, and still not entirely sure...08:21
cim209https://imgur.com/fX8snLs08:21
cim209screenshot works like a macos08:22
Silmarlion_Downside is that it looks like it is not open source, so how can I be completely sure that it doesn't send the photos to some 3rd party site08:22
ryuone2k: what about xrandr?08:23
cim209Silmarlion_, i'm not concerned about where the images go08:23
ne2kryuo, I need to move the launcher placement too, so was hoping to do it by just automating the thing I currently do manually, rather than using something entirely different. was slightly concerned (from using xrandr before) that they might not play nicely together either, i.e. that doing low level changes with xrandr will confuse the gui part08:24
cim209Silmarlion_, it is open source https://github.com/olav-st/screencloud08:25
ryuone2k: i'm not an expert on unity. all i know is gsettings is how changes are normally applied to GTK environments.08:25
ryuone2k: you'd need to explore it yourself to figure out how it ticks.08:25
ne2kryuo, yup, I suspect it's in there, I'd just like to figure out which schema to look at08:25
ne2ksuppose I could just monitor all of them... !!08:25
cim209GPL208:26
ne2kryuo, gsettings list-schemas |while read schema; do gsettings monitor $schema >$schema.log & done # success! it's org.gnome.desktop.interface and com.ubuntu.user-interface08:31
swebhow can i convert all output to stdout ... i need to get stdout instead of stderr of command output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nWD7kGvvcp/08:37
ne2ksweb, 2>&108:40
swebne2k: did you see my pastebin ?08:40
ne2ksweb, I'm not sure what you're saying with it08:41
ne2kryuo, hmm. I think it's not storing it all there, unfortunately, the content of those files doesn't seem to be enough to be doing all the changes08:44
ne2ksweb, are you objecting to the fact that it gives a non-zero exit code while appearing not to print anything to stderr? you'd have to take that up with npm08:45
swebne2k: i will try, thnks08:46
ne2ktry what?08:48
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BluesKajHI folks10:11
iseneAfter an upgrade lately, my Xmodmap setup is gone after resuming from suspend-to-RAM (well, not quite - if I wait for a long time it actually works some 90% of the time - but if I hit any key within some 30 seconds after resume, it is killed). Then running xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap it does set my keys back to what I want, but for some strange reason it will not set this line: 'keycode  105 = Pointer_Button2' How10:20
isenecan I fix this? Or can I move to an alternative to Xmodmap - without changing any files outside my home directory?10:20
pandaadbHi. I have a relatively fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 (about a 2 weeks old now). I noticed when running upgrade I am getting this: https://pastebin.com/W7grRkMB11:04
pandaadbI am not sure what it means. I found a few suggestions of commands online to run to fix this, however running blind commands have gotten me into trouble before so I figured I'd ask :)11:05
pandaadbI also found a bug report about people having similar issues. It does not seem that that problem has any implication on the system (nto as far as I can see) so I am not sure if I should maybe just ignore it for the time being11:05
tomreynpandaadb: hi. it's good you bring it up, you shouldn't ignore such issues. these are apt dependency resolver issues, which can result in yet more packages (or package updates) becoming uninstallable and your system not getting (all) security patches.11:17
pandaadbIn that case I may need help fixing them :)11:18
tomreynpandaadb: can you run: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; echo '*****'; apt-cache policy 2>&1; )11:18
tomreyn!pastebinit | pandaadb11:19
ubottupandaadb: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit11:19
pandaadbtomreyn http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9JxqNjjSz/11:21
pandaadbpretty much the same problem i have. I like pastbinit though - that I didn;t know11:22
tomreynok, i haven't seen those TCSAFLUSH errors before, need to look them up11:24
tomreynpandaadb: can you post "dmesg | pastebinit" in the meantime?11:25
pandaadbto be honest, thouse are new i think11:25
pandaadbsure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gvdYkXDRph/11:26
* tomreyn looking11:31
pandaadbthanks!11:32
luckywhoalsa-lib_1.1.6-1.debian.tar.xz? how to install11:36
tomreynpandaadb: so TCSAFLUSH is about terminal functions, used when updating some of its properties. should be of no concern for now.11:39
pandaadbah, i am using terminator and noticed that it has sometimes issues as well11:40
pandaadbbut it had them from 14 to 16 to 1811:40
pandaadbso i reckon that's just a glitch that happens once a month11:40
pandaadbi could try rerunning your command on the default terminal though if that may make a difference?11:41
tomreynpandaadb: oh that's probably the source of these then, yes. so lets focus on the package issues. can you: sudo /bin/false; pastebinit <( sudo dpkg --purge grub-efi-amd64 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo dpkg --purge grub-efi-amd64-signed 2>&1; )11:42
tomreyn'that' -> terminator11:42
pandaadbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kd2Cpzf7KG/11:42
pandaadb(on the default terminal)11:43
pandaadbNot sure if relevant: I use snap whenever I can, and apt as the second choice. I also disabled secure boot on BIOS which I think was needed for the nvidia drivers to work11:44
tomreynpandaadb: can you: sudo /bin/false; pastebinit <( sudo dpkg --purge shim-signed grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-signed  2>&1; )11:45
pandaadbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RYQgRgq9zc/11:46
tomreynyes, disabling secureboot would be required unless you sign the nvidia modules yourself11:46
pandaadbooi what does `sudo /bin/false` do?11:46
pandaadbthe removal seems to have worked this time11:47
tomreynokay, this worked out for a change. /bin/false does exactly nothing. but i really meant to use /biin/(true, which does nothing and also doesn't set an error status. the idea of using sudo /bin/true there is just so you can enter your sudop password once before we redirect output to pastebinit11:48
pandaadboh okay, makes sense :)11:48
lyra2how can i install sedutil-cli?11:49
tomreynpandaadb: now to reinstall those packages: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt install shim-signed grub-efi-amd64-signed 2>&1; )11:50
pandaadbi think we need a -y11:50
tomreynpandaadb: this may be true11:51
lyra2anyone?11:52
pandaadbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/csWrHT5BFC/11:52
tomreynlyra2: what do you need it for, what does it do? it doesn't seem to be available in ubuntu11:52
pandaadbinteresting, the TCSAFLUSH came back. I executed this on the default terminal too11:52
lyra2tomreyn: it can list Opal compliant disks11:53
pandaadbso it seems to have reinstalled nvidia. I can confirm that nvidia is still my enabled driver11:54
tomreynlyra2: i assume hadparm can do so, too11:54
tomreyn* hdparm11:54
lyra2as i understand it does not support nvme11:55
tomreynpandaadb: yes, it uninstalled and resintalled the nvidia lkernel modules. and i think it signed it, too11:55
tomreynlyra2: for nvme, try 'nvme'11:55
pandaadbcool - shall i try the ugrade to see if the error is gone?11:56
pandaadbas in sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade11:56
markpieI really like the console under ctrl+alt+f4.11:57
tomreynpandaadb: i think the dependency issues were solved, too, let's verify: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; sudo apt-get -fy install 2>&1; )11:57
pandaadbhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qKz8TxRdkd/11:57
pandaadbyup looks good :)11:57
tomreynpandaadb: sorry for benig so slow. ;) still waking up here.11:58
pandaadboh no worries :) Thank you for helping11:58
pandaadbi'd give you a coffee and cookie if I could :)11:58
tomreynpandaadb:so you can probably run: "apt full-upgrade" now11:58
JimBuntu!cookie | tomreyn11:58
ubottutomreyn: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!11:58
pandaadbamazing :)11:58
tomreynthanks pandaadb, JimBuntu :)11:58
pandaadb!cookie | tomreyn11:59
pandaadbfrrom me too :)11:59
pandaadbi will run that after lunch - thanks! And a great morning11:59
* TJ- has stolen tomreyn's cookie for his lunch :)11:59
zetherooIn Ubuntu 18.04 how do you know what graphics driver is in use?11:59
tomreynthanks TJ-, my doc would appreciate11:59
TJ-zetheroo: for the hardware, or for X/Wayland ?11:59
zetherooTJ-: both?12:00
tomreynpandaadb: thank you, ttyl!12:00
TJ-tomreyn: I was literally putting a choc cookie in my mouth as that message appeared :D12:00
tomreyn:)12:00
TJ-zetheroo: for the kernel, it'll be listed via "lspci -nnk"12:00
JimBuntulyra2, If you find yourself in the position where you *need* sedutil-cli, you can get it right from the writers - https://github.com/Drive-Trust-Alliance/sedutil/wiki/Executable-Distributions12:00
TJ-weird issue with grub-mkstandalone - no matter what I do with --install-modules=... I cannot reduce the list to apoint where it doesn't report "error: core image is too big" !12:01
zetherooTJ-: Kernel driver in use: i91512:01
TJ-zetheroo: for X, quickest way is either 'glxinfo' or read /var/lgo/Xorg.0.log12:01
zetherooTJ-: ok, and Wayland?12:02
TJ-errr, "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"12:02
TJ-zetheroo: no ^&)^(&! idea :D12:02
zetheroook ;)12:02
jostHi! I had created a RAID with mdadm, but removed it again. Then I zeroed the superblocks on all devices in that array and ran update-initramfs. However, the system still tries to mount that device on boot (resulting in emergency mode)... How to debug and fix that?12:05
ikonia what is trying to mount it ? fstab ?12:06
TJ-jost: "mdadm --zero-superblock12:06
TJ-jost: you must have left something behind.12:06
jostTJ-: already did that to both disks12:06
tomreynjost: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.confmay still specify the array?12:07
josttomreyn: no, it's not in there12:07
jostbut it still was in fstab... though I had deleted it from there12:07
jostremoved it, now trying to reboot12:08
jostOk, machine is up... most stupid error ever :(12:09
TJ-jost:  :)12:09
dreamcat4hi there. if i'm on 18.04, then should i be using xmodmap, or xkb ?12:09
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TJ-tomreyn: can you think of a way to freeze a process in-place based on trigger text seen on its stdout12:11
tomreynTJ-: maybe with expect? i never did this.12:14
tomreynor maybe gdb + breakpoints12:16
TJ-tomreyn: gdb possibly; I'm trying to find a way to stop grub-mkstandalone deleting its /tmp/grub.XXXX/ so I can ivnestigate why the files its collected are too large for core image12:17
tomreynTJ-: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/265992/watch-tmp-for-file-creation-and-prevent-deletion-of-files12:21
tomreyni've run into needing this before, too, but never knew how to solve it.12:22
tomreyna WORM file system would also help, but i guess the inotify-wait method is actually better.12:23
tomreynthat's 'inotifywait'12:24
tomreynoh, this is still a race condition, so not a great solution12:25
tomreynwell then i guess it's gdb12:25
TJ-tomreyn: I like the chattr +a method... but this is tmpfs!12:28
tomreynoh, right, chattr +a is a good approach, too. if you dont like the file system you have there now, maybe put replace it?12:31
tomreyni.e. if you mount an ext4 to /tmp then there's be no more tmpfs there.12:31
TJ-tomreyn: I'll try putting a real directory over it, but there's existing programs got things there, not sure if it'll upset them :)12:33
tomreynyou can mount --bind the tmpfs elsewhere (i think) then mount the ext4, then cp -ap from the bind mount to the new /tmp12:36
tomreynstill not ideal...12:36
TJ-tomreyn: GRrrr! chattr +a worked.... for the /tmp/grub.XXXX/ dir, but NOT the files inside :!12:39
TJ-tomreyn: i wonder if theres a library I could insert with LD_PRELOAD that does null deletes?12:40
TJ-tomreyn: I've found an example 0- going to try it12:42
tomreynblack magic! sorry, i'm really not into this12:43
tomreyna pity about chattr +a not working recursively :-/12:43
xtronusing ubuntu 16 LTS, and my notification icon in upper right corner is not available, unable to get notifications? any idea how to fix?12:44
TJ-tomreyn: yeah; and it seems it's sidestepping my LD_PRELOAD so12:48
TJ-tomreyn: it worked; I had a failing match on the path to unlink12:51
left_beehi12:54
left_beeI don't know if this is the right place, but I cannot understand what com.canonical.unity is...12:55
pragmaticenigmawhere are you seeing that left_bee ?12:55
left_beeI was using this service to capture screenshots in a project12:56
left_beebut then I moved to xubuntu12:56
left_beeand now I cannot find the equivalent service12:56
left_beeSo I want to read up on this... but I am not able to find any good explanation12:56
tomreynTJ-: can you explain how you did it / point me to the example you found?12:57
leftyfbleft_bee: https://askubuntu.com/questions/449943/unity-tweak-tool-fails-to-start-with-the-error-com-canonical-unity-webapps-sche#comment1388057_65363412:57
leftyfbleft_bee: I found that by googling for "com.canonical.unity". It was the first result12:57
left_beeleftyfb: some apps fail because of com.canonical.unity, because it is the root of all operations on ubuntu12:58
left_beeit manages session and stuff, locking screen etc12:58
leftyfbleft_bee: please read the link I posted at the top12:58
left_beeI'm using this npm package https://www.npmjs.com/package/dbus-native12:58
left_beeleftyfb: yes, I'm reading12:58
ppf!info llvm trusty13:00
ubottullvm (source: llvm-defaults (0.21ubuntu1)): Low-Level Virtual Machine (LLVM). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.4-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 42 kB13:00
peter22222 hi folks... if i open a shell with Ctrl+alt+f4 and start desktop with startx, how can i close that session13:01
left_beetomreyn: this is the function I'm using https://pastebin.com/1LcqErmk13:01
pragmaticenigmapeter22222: To start with, you should not be using startx ... Once you close the desktop session you should return to the tty you started from where you can log out13:01
tomreynleft_bee: ok, but i think you wanted to tell someone else about it13:02
left_beetomreyn: oh, yeah, sorry about that13:03
leftyfbleft_bee: you're specifically requesting resources from the unity-webapps-service service without having it installed13:04
tomreynnp ;)13:04
pragmaticenigmaleft_bee: This is channel is not really intended for software development questions. You should seek out the correct channels like #programming or NodeJS channels. As for your original question, you should not be hooking directly into the desktop environment for your application. Look into using DBUS... that's what it's for.13:06
left_beeleftyfb: I have that package installed, and I think my question is, how do I make my function applicable to all linux distros, and not just ubuntu ?13:06
pragmaticenigmaleft_bee: see my statement above13:06
left_beepragmaticenigma: yeah okay, I understand. Thanks13:07
leftyfbleft_bee: not rely on services that are only available on certain flavors of ubuntu13:08
left_beeleftyfb: yes. I should read about DBUS stuff I guess.13:08
Chris56good evening13:13
smutjehello all13:13
peter22222pragmaticenigma sorry i had network problems...13:15
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peter22222does anybody know why ctrl+alt+f1-6 is working, but not f7-12..?13:16
ducassepeter22222: because only 1-6 is set up to run a getty, i suspect13:18
peter22222thank you ducasse ... i can switch to tty1-6 by ctrl+alt+f1-6, but if i want to switch back with ctrl+alt+f7 it doesnt work...13:19
peter22222so im stuck once i use tty1-613:19
Chris56peter22222 what if you try chvt 7 or 8?13:24
leftyfbChris56: that won't work if they haven't been setup in getty13:25
Chris56my bad13:26
Chris56I'm back for a problem from yesterday. I try to find a file and copy it to another path with no-clobber. The destination path is empty, but it is not copying anything. The file *is* found, and if the parameter no-clobber is removed it copies just fine13:27
Chris56find /mnt/s3-drive/backup/hanab1/data -type f -newermt "2018-08-31 00:00:00" ! -newermt "2018-08-31 23:59:59" -exec cp -n {} /mnt/s3-drive/backup/hanab1/monthly/ \;13:27
pragmaticenigmaChris56: I believe it fails with the no clobber because of the destination path or possibly something to do with what find is passing in for a source path13:32
pragmaticenigmaChris56: I'm trying to find documentation to support my hypothesis, but what I think is happening is this: No clobber is intended for a directory to directory copy. To avoid overwriting files that exist in the destination directory when doing a bulk copy.13:34
pragmaticenigmaChris56: what I would recommend looking into is "rsync" which is designed for your particular need. You wouldn't need to use find, instead you can use rsync stand alone. In it's basic setup, it can take any file from a source directory and copy it to the destination if it does not already exist there.13:36
peter22222Chris56 i tried ctrl+alt+f7-12... nothing worked13:38
brli_any idea why the ubuntu patch for firefox aka. the unity-menubar.patch has never get its way into upstream?13:49
adrian_1908brli_: have you tried a websearch? look to me like it might be introduced in a coming firefox 62 update?13:53
Chris56pragmaticenigma indeed. If I write the file name it works just fine.13:53
brli_adrian_1908: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-trunk.head/view/head:/debian/patches/unity-menubar.patch is still applicable to firefox source tarball with only 4 failure13:58
brli_adrian_1908: if you mean the dot release later on...maybe? I haven't read such news :/13:59
adrian_1908brli_: I honestly don't know man, I just saw e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+changelog which seems to mention the patch.14:02
brli_adrian_1908: okay, thx man14:05
brli_dunnu why they release a patch without pushing it first to their vcs system...14:06
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s10gopalubuntu 18.04 is unable to search bluetooth device ( it keeps searching)14:45
pragmaticenigmas10gopal: Is the device being searched for in Discoverable mode?14:45
s10gopalpragmaticenigma, yes14:46
pragmaticenigmaIs the device discoverable by other devices/computers?14:46
s10gopalpragmaticenigma, yes14:46
pragmaticenigmawhat is the device?14:47
s10gopalpragmaticenigma, mobile (LG Q6) and bluetooth speaker ( boat stone 200)14:48
leftyfbs10gopal: what device is ubuntu installed on?14:49
s10gopalleftyfb, HP ay008tx14:49
wron a ubuntu 18.04.1 to upgrade distro what would be command?14:51
lotus|NUCwr: upgrade to wich?14:52
wrlotus|NUC, lateste14:52
wrlotus|NUC, latest14:52
lotus|NUCwr: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade14:52
wrlotus|NUC, do release upgrade etc not anymore?14:52
pragmaticenigmawr: 18.04.1 is the latest version of Ubuntu14:53
s10gopalleftyfb, pragmaticenigma output of "lshw -C network" http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rFKPQP6Ymt/14:53
wrpragmaticenigma, omg, sorry, was updating a friends pc didnt touch it long time though new version was out but guess not14:54
pragmaticenigmawr: do-release-upgrade is still the valid command for jumping major versions of Ubuntu14:54
pragmaticenigmabut right now there isn't anything newer than 18.04. so it appears your friends machine is good to go14:55
gopal__pragmaticenigma, leftyfb , any fix?15:00
lotus|NUC!patience | gopal__15:01
ubottugopal__: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/15:01
ne2ks10gopal, can the ubuntu machine see any bluetooth devices at all?15:19
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ghostnik11hi my lubuntu 18.04 just crashed while it was doing system updates and it got to: update-grub-efi-32ia15:33
ghostnik11how can i tell it to check and correct errors that might have been damaged during software update and fix it via terminal15:34
Anthaas_Hi, so, I am having connectivity troubles on my machine - could someone help me? It keeps saying "Connection failed - Activation of network connection failed"15:37
Anthaas_(I'm currently tethering the Wi-Fi to my computer via my mobile phone)15:38
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: Is the machine actually able to connect despite the message?15:39
OolAnthaas_: I tried thetering too and not working with my 18.04 laptop, with 16.04 it was working fine15:40
Oolyou are not alone :P15:40
pragmaticenigmaOol: Please refrain from "me too" comments.15:41
Oolnot interesting to know if a bug touch a lot of people ?15:42
ne2kTHETERING15:42
ne2ksomeone changed the entire way that networking is configured from 16.04 to 18.04. I got right confused the first time I installed a 18.04 machine. had to learn fecking YAML just to set an IP address15:43
pragmaticenigmaOol: If you are experiencing an issue, then please bring it up as your own inquiry. The "me too" commentary tends to spark chat instead of productive support dialogue. The IRC chat room is not searched for bug reports. If you are experiencing a bug, then file a bug report15:44
pragmaticenigma!bug15:44
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.15:44
pragmaticenigmane2k: Please mind your language. Obfuscations or otherwise are discouraged.15:44
ne2kpragmaticenigma, obfuscations or otherwise?15:45
ne2kwhat does that even mean?15:45
pragmaticenigmane2k: obfuscation is to use replacement letters or words to imply a particular word with out spelling it outright15:46
Anthaas_pragmaticenigma: I don't believe so, no.15:47
Anthaas_The weird thing is, it does connect _sometimes_.15:47
Anthaas_For only a couple of minutes.15:47
ne2kpragmaticenigma, I know what obfuscation is. I was wondering what the "or otherwise" meant.15:47
ne2kpragmaticenigma, and, FYI, it wasn't obfuscation15:48
pragmaticenigmane2k: this isn't a forum for debate.. please stop15:48
ne2kpragmaticenigma, it's Irish English15:48
ne2know I remember why I never come on this channel15:48
biebI know this isnt the raspberry pi channel, but hopefully someone knows a way to fix this issue:  I have an Acer UT220HQL touch monitor connected to my pi, it is recognized fine, but the settings are off, and I am not sure where to adjust them. There is about an inch border around the desktop that is not used, how do I expand the gui to use the full monitor. This may fix my second issue.. which is the calibration of where I touch on the m15:49
biebonitor is not exact with the button or menu placement15:49
pragmaticenigmabieb: You're right, this isn't the Raspberry Pi channel... it's offtopic... please seek help elsewhere15:49
ne2kbieb, are you driving it at its native resolution?15:50
biebne2k: yes15:50
ne2kbieb, what connection is the video using? HDMI?15:50
pragmaticenigmane2k: Do you not understand that this is an Ubuntu support channel. Please stop, they need to find the correct venue for support15:50
biebne2k: yes, HDMI15:50
ne2kpragmaticenigma, I'm doing it just to annoy you15:50
pragmaticenigma!offtopic | bieb15:51
ubottubieb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:51
Anthaas_ne2k: Don't be petulant.15:51
m_i_k_e#raspberrypi15:51
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pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: Even without connection to the internet does the machine report that it is actively connected15:52
ne2kbieb, do you get the same border if you drive it at different resolutions? how about text mode? how about the rainbow boot screen? and do you get a border if you drive it from a different computer?15:52
pragmaticenigmaas in, it sees the wifi hotspot15:52
pragmaticenigma!ops | ne2k15:52
ubottune2k: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax15:52
Anthaas_pragmaticenigma: Yes - "Wired - Connected"15:52
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: You tethered via USB?15:52
Anthaas_Currently, yes.15:52
ne2kARGH! Oh No!15:53
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: That may be an issue with drivers for tethering via the USB. Are you able to get it to work via WiFi tethering?15:54
Anthaas_Sorry - I think I may have misconstrued my issue - that is entirely my fault, sorry.15:54
Anthaas_pragmaticenigma: My home router is in my living room, this machine is upstairs, and the two are connected via powerline adapter.15:55
Anthaas_My computer is currently connected via a USB tether to my mobile phone which is forwarding my house WiFi.15:55
ne2kwow, I haven't been called petulant for a while! gotta put that one in the diary15:56
Anthaas_Uh huh15:57
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: I haven't heard of that setup before. When connected to the mobile, are you also connected to the connection via powerline adapter too?15:57
Anthaas_pragmaticenigma: The mobile is only connected because I can't talk to you guys otherwise - it wouldn't usually be.15:58
Anthaas_The issue is that I am getting "Wired - Connected" when using the powerline adapter, but no internet connection.15:58
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: AH, okay... starting to get a better picture15:58
Anthaas_I'm sorry - I didn't explain myself very well.15:59
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: That's alright15:59
ne2kAnthaas_, does the connection work if you disconnect it from the powerline adapter and plug it directly into the router?15:59
Anthaas_ne2k: The two devices are on separate floors in the house - that isn't feasible.15:59
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: So, tricky thing with powerline, is there are lots of reasons it would have issues. Startign with whether or not the two rooms are on the same side of the distribution panel of your main breaker box16:00
Anthaas_pragmaticenigma: That I do know - they are.16:00
ne2kAnthaas_, do you have a portable device you could test first directly in to the router and then over the powerline?16:00
Anthaas_I know that on the basis that this connection _used_ to work perfectly.16:00
Anthaas_It has only recently stopped.16:00
Anthaas_I am hesitant to say the powerline adapter is faulty though on the basis that it sometimes connections for a short burst.16:00
Anthaas_connects*16:00
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: Do the powerline adapters have any reset/sync feature? possible they need to be re-paired together?16:01
Anthaas_pragmaticenigma: I have done that, too. I do have another machine downstairs which also uses a powerline adapter, and it has a great connection.16:01
Anthaas_(They have sync buttons on the front)16:02
ne2kAnthaas_, swap the powerline boxes on the two machines and see whether the problem follows the location or the box16:02
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: are there any fans or motors running in any of the rooms? anything new added to the house since it last worked properly?16:03
Anthaas_pragmaticenigma: The second machine was connected.16:03
Anthaas_Literally the only change.16:03
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: If you remove that second machine does this machine start to work?16:04
Anthaas_It is currently switched off, and the answer in this case is no.16:04
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: though the machine is switched off... is the adapter unplugged as well?16:04
Anthaas_I can do that and try now?16:05
Anthaas_I will brb - I will probably disconnect as a result of this.16:06
pragmaticenigmaokay16:07
pragmaticenigmabefore you go16:07
Anthaas_Yes?16:07
pragmaticenigmaOther thigns to try, swap the adapters between the two machines... if the troubleshooting machine starts to work, and other stops... then it's the adapters16:07
ne2kswap the adapters between the machines16:08
Anthaas_Yup16:08
Anthaas_Ok - trying now!16:08
pragmaticenigmaor rather an issue with the adapters...16:08
ne2k[17:02] <ne2k> Anthaas_, swap the powerline boxes on the two machines and see whether the problem follows the location or the box16:08
ne2kbut yeah16:08
pragmaticenigmabeyond that, I think were approaching the need to contact the manufacturer of the powerline system to see if they have more precise troubleshooting ideas Anthaas_16:09
ne2koh, sorry, sorry, must stop being a borrowed puppy or whatever it was. cat I got given for a bit. pet-u-lent16:09
ne2kI mean, this is all entirely to do with Ubuntu, isn't it16:09
ne2kand nothing to do with ethernet over powerline hardware16:10
ne2kbieb, I have to go. hope you get your monitor thing sorted16:11
biebne2k: thanks! have a good day16:12
ne2kbieb, I'm hoping to, but it's going to take me a while to calm down from my petulance so, you know, it's all a bit in the balance16:13
biebne2k: lol16:13
Anthaas_So, the other machine is completely disconnected.16:14
Anthaas_I repaired the two powerline adapters, and reset them, and I am connected.16:15
Anthaas_If I disconnect at any point, you'll know it died.16:15
pragmaticenigmaAnthaas_: I think the issue is within the powerline adapters then. I would get in touch with the manufacturer of those devices for further assistance16:15
Anthaas_TP-Link16:16
pragmaticenigmaWhat we've done is verified the issue isn't in the computer, so it falls outside of the channel's ability to help16:16
pragmaticenigmaHopefully TP-Link reps or support forums can help you out my friend.16:17
pragmaticenigmaI've gotta run16:17
madLyfeshould all of my internal drives be in fstab?16:20
JimBuntumadLyfe, if you want them to be mounted at boot16:24
madLyfewell they are auto mounted when i login and view them in file manager16:25
madLyfeis that what you mean by boot?16:25
Anthaas_He essentially means when your machine is turned on by "boot"16:26
madLyfebecause the only thing mounted in fstab is the OS disk/partitions and a manually mounted samba network share.16:29
madLyfefound it odd my other two drives were not in there.16:29
sangyhi, my SO has issues with ubuntu 18. Firefox takes like a minute to start and sudo takes a while to authenticate. Has anyone experienced this?16:32
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tomreynsangy: there are Ubuntu 18.04.0, 18.04.1 and soon there will be 18.04.2 and 18.10. !Ubuntu 18" does not and will never exist.16:33
Anthaas_I think it is clear that they meant 18.0416:34
Anthaas_Which patch version is most likely irrelevant to this problem.16:35
tomreyni disagree.16:35
tomreynbut more details would surely help either way.16:36
tomreyn!details16:36
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.16:36
sangyugh, sorry. It's 18.04.116:39
sangytomreyn: ^16:40
s10gopalmy machine is unable to see any bluetooth device16:43
tomreynsangy: standard gnome desktop? X or (x)waylaynd?16:43
tomreynsangy: can you run firefox from a terminal and post the output.16:44
sangystandard gnome desktop, X11 (as per XDG_SESSION_TYPE)16:48
sangyrunning firefox from the terminal, nothing shows up just takes a while to start16:49
sangythis is printed after closing it though. Not sure if it's related https://ptpb.pw/qT-o16:50
sangykinda surprised it says "chromium" in the path. It *is* firefox though16:50
sangyfirefox 61.0.1 to be precise16:54
tomreyncheck the bottom of dmesg (ignoring / stripping all upper case UFW lines) for errors17:02
sangyjust figured it out: after updating to 18 the hostname changed to mythinkpad, rather than the old thinkpad (probably naminng the computer was an update step?), adding 127.0.0.1 mythinkpad to /etc/hosts fixes it17:09
sangyI honestly have no idea why this happens, but saw that the strace of sudo was trying to resolve mythinkpad through the network which was rather odd...17:10
sangythanks though!17:10
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cluelesspersonwtf, download dialog boxes don't show up anymore17:16
moredrowsycan i ask kvm questions here or is there a better place?17:22
JimBuntumoredrowsy, if it's related to Ubuntu, you may get support17:23
moredrowsywell...its not only on ubuntu but it's a qemu virtual machine question on ubuntu.17:24
moredrowsyjust wondering when i change computers with ubuntu install, does the kvm still work on it when it does a passthrough to host17:24
cluelesspersongod, ubuntu 18 is so buggy17:25
cluelesspersonfatal bugs17:26
compdocmoredrowsy, if the cpu changes and you have one defined in the guest, you might have to edit that out of the xml file17:27
cluelesspersonwifi gui hangs, preventing settings menu from working17:27
cluelesspersonchrome downloads fail to show the download dialog, making downloads not work17:27
cluelesspersonI think that happens because I setup a user mount with CIFS17:27
cluelessperson(because nautilus GVFS/samba mounts are slow/ do not work)17:27
StabingtonEvenin gents17:27
moredrowsycompdoc, if i don't do host-passthrough would that increase compatability?17:28
compdocI dont use passthrough, but if you have it working properly on the new machine, i dont see why it wouldnt work.17:28
compdocyou might have to remove it then add it back17:29
StabingtonHaving troubles with sound... suddenly decides to down-pitch everything, and I'm hearing occasional static noises ;_;17:29
compdocmaybe remove it before the move17:29
moredrowsycompdoc, i haven't tried to move on the new machine yet. i'm doing it today for the school computers to boot up windows on linux (cause the professor wants us on it..)17:30
moredrowsyso im running a win vm17:30
moredrowsyjust wanted to make sure things work on the new machine17:30
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moredrowsycompdoc, do you know how compatible with a new install on old machine without host-passthrough (or default settings)17:31
moredrowsywork when transfering to a new machine?17:31
cluelesspersonrestarting ubuntu doesn't fix it17:31
compdocyou can only try17:31
moredrowsycause i just realized win10 is super picky with hardware changes17:31
compdoccopy the qcow file, or whatever, and keep the original.17:32
moredrowsyok thanks, will try and hope for the best.17:33
* katamo bionic == <3, but samba =/= <317:34
cluelesspersonkatamo: is bionic the nautilus smb driver?17:34
cluelesspersonbecause it can't even display large directories with lots of files/folders17:35
katamocluelessperson bionic=18.0417:35
cluelesspersonkatamo: it looks nice, but if it continues to have these fatal bugs, I will be forced to downgrade to 1617:36
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katamocluelessperson what hardware are you on? bionic + Dell 7720 has been a dream in my experience. I have only used samba shares in VM's though so cant speak to that.17:37
cluelesspersonkatamo: Thinkpad Carbon X1 3rd Gen17:38
* katamo hmmmmm, have seen several X1's in here for help17:39
katamocluelessperson do any of these bugs match your issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/bugtrackers/samba-bugs17:39
cluelesspersonkatamo: might've been me.  I've come in several times before reporting stuff. :P17:39
cluelesspersonkatamo: it's the nautilus samba extension that fails17:40
katamo:)17:40
cluelesspersonsamba hasn't been a problem for me17:40
cluelesspersonkatamo: it seems to mainly be the GUI user facing stuff.17:40
cluelesspersonWIFI menu freezes up (blocking), Nautilus Samba Extension (Blocking),  Chrome Download Dialog (Blocking)17:41
cluelesspersonall GUI stuff17:41
katamoOdd, i havent seen those issues but mine is a clean install too :/17:41
cluelesspersonkatamo: see, on 16, I occassionally had a system hang, but typically I could keep my laptop session running for weeks until something required a restart17:42
katamoI think bugs would be at this package then? maybe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-share17:42
cluelesspersonkatamo: thanks for linking me the bug trackers, I really should report them in the right places.17:44
cluelesspersonkatamo: the big deal right now is that chrome download dialogs aren't showing up17:45
cluelesspersonwhen I close chrome it asks if I want to halt downloads, even though none are running. :/17:45
katamocluelessperson its recommended to look for similar reports to what you are experiencing first and the chrome / wifi / samba thing all sounding similar-ish concerns me17:46
cluelesspersonkatamo: they sound like different bugs to me17:46
cluelesspersonwifi appears to be stuck waiting on the wifi driver to return data17:47
cluelesspersonchrome seems to hang on saving to a mounted filesystem17:47
cluelesspersonkatamo: they do sound like similar problems sorta actually17:47
katamoso chrome & nautilus behaviors could be the same root issue17:47
katamoand then whether the wifi issue is involved in the network filesystem is plausible17:48
katamocan you test the nautilus/chrome stuff over ethernet adapter?17:48
cluelesspersonkatamo: the wifi settings menu unfreezes when I enable airplane mode (disabling wifi)17:48
cluelesspersonSo, to get it to work, I open the menu, enable airplane mode, click the button, disable airplane mode, click the next button, enter the wifi passowrd17:49
cluelesspersonRE-enable airplane mode, hit okay, DISABLE airplane mode again, exit out quick before it freezes again17:49
cluelesspersonthen it connects in the background17:49
lovepopsickleanyone know of a reason why ubuntu has not upgraded thunderbird to 60 yet?17:50
katamocluelessperson personally I end up doing most of my wifi mgmt in nmtui simply because of my ssh addiction & odd use case but I do use the wifi-tui to do eap-tls testing regularly so I've seen it a lot17:51
s10gopalUbuntu 18.04 is unable to find bluetooth device17:53
s10gopalin bluetoothctl , getting error while using power on "Failed to set power on: org.bluez.Error.Blocked"18:02
katamos10gopal shot in the dark sounds maybe like hw button/hot key/bios setting?18:04
s10gopalkatamo, fixed the error by turning on bt in gui , but still not able to find bt device , it keep on searching18:11
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s10gopalkatamo, output of "service bluetooth status" http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/smJx6hFW87/18:15
katamos10gopal I'm stuck on another project rn, good luck :)18:15
tomreyns10gopal: rfkill is a command you can run18:15
s10gopaltomreyn, how to fix it?18:16
tomreyns10gopal: have you run rfkill, yet?18:17
s10gopaltomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jxmq6MxftG/18:17
tomreyns10gopal: okay, it says unblovcked, but the log you posted earlier suggested it was blocked by rfkill.18:18
cluelesspersonkatamo: rebooted ubuntu again after dist-upgrade, downloads work again18:19
s10gopaltomreyn, driver problem?18:19
tomreynmaybe Sep 07 23:34 is a while ago for you and you already unblocked the bluetooth device earlier.18:19
katamocluelessperson congrats!18:19
s10gopaltomreyn, the log was around a minute old18:20
cluelesspersonkatamo: thank you, wizard18:20
tomreyns10gopal: could be. this is pretty much all i know about bluetooth. never really used it. i think there are some control or  diagnostics commands for bluetooth which start with hci...18:20
katamocluelessperson not wizard, just broken things more times than I can count lol18:21
cluelesspersonkatamo: call us, the JACKHAMMER18:22
tomreyns10gopal: "one minute old" is unlikely. the paste says it was posted from gopal at Fri, 7 Sep 2018 18:14:16 +0000, and the youngest log message is Sep 07 23:34:29 (your local time), so it must have been at least 34+14=48 minutes earlier.18:22
katamocluelessperson as a girl I'll opt out of "jackhammer" as a nick name lol18:23
coz_jillhammer? :)18:23
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cluelesspersonkatamo: I don't understand how that's a sexist term. D:18:23
katamocoz_ alrighty lol18:24
coz_:)18:24
s10gopaltomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mxq4fjj8G7/18:24
coz_katamo, it flows from the lips just as well18:24
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cluelesspersonkatamo: is there any female character in all history that was a destroyer of worlds?18:24
katamo|aka_kathacoz_ cluelessperson <<newnic18:24
tomreyns10gopal:  meaning?18:25
coz_katamo|aka_katha, got it18:25
s10gopaltomreyn, service bluetooth status18:25
s10gopalcurrent18:25
katamo|aka_katha*kathammer :P18:25
tomreyns10gopal: right, but the log records it outputs are not recent.18:26
tomreyns10gopal: anyways, can't help, look into the hci... commands, good luck18:26
katamo|aka_kathacoz_ guess I ran out of charachters :(18:26
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coz_:)18:26
s10gopaltomreyn, Command 'hci' not found,18:27
coz_s10gopal, rfkill unblock bluetooth  systemctl enable bluetooth.service   systemctl start bluetooth.service    3 commands, was this suggested?18:27
coz_sudo^^18:28
tomreyns10gopal doesn't have bluez installed18:30
iceisfunI have a few Ubuntu 17.10 servers with static netplan addresses configured, somehow the interface ends up with no ip on it after some time and a netplan apply corrects the issue18:31
hans_when using btrfs as / why does the installer make a subvolume for /home/ ?18:32
iceisfunAll 3 of the machines that have lost their address are virtual machines on u17.10 using netplan18:32
katamo|kathammericeisfun journalctl output during @ time of connection loss would be interesting18:32
ducasse!eolupgrade | iceisfun 17.10 is eol, please upgrade18:32
ubottuiceisfun 17.10 is eol, please upgrade: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:32
iceisfunAll I have is bind errors for unreachable networks, the logs don't go back far enough18:34
tomreyniceisfun: dont waste time on debugging issues before you upgraded to a supported release.18:34
s10gopalcoz_, still same error18:38
coz_s10gopal, mmm let me check further18:39
migs123is there anyone here that can help me with broken packages18:40
s10gopalcoz_, my problem is ubuntu keep on searching for bluetooth devices18:40
coz_ok18:40
coz_migs123, do you have synaptic installed? << easier solution18:40
migs123coz_, yes. I have been trying it all morning. It says that The following packages have been kept back:18:41
migs123  gir1.2-peas-1.0 libpeas-1.0-0 qml-module-io-thp-pyotherside rdnssd18:41
migs123  ruby-byebug ruby-json18:41
coz_migs123, hold on18:42
tomreynmigs123: please post the url returned by:  sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get update 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; echo '*****'; apt-cache policy 2>&1; )18:43
coz_oops ^^18:45
hans_why would you sudo bin true?18:45
hans_oh right, short timespan where sudo doesn't ask for password18:46
tomreynexactly18:46
migs123tomreyn, sorry someone was at the door18:46
tomreynmigs123: thats fine18:46
migs123tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2MbkdKX8vz/18:50
hans_what does this mean? [    3.296154] print_req_error: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 018:51
cluelesspersonkatamo|kathammer: I'm getting general protection faults in ubuntu's syslog18:51
cluelesspersonthis laptop may have had it.18:51
hans_what is `dev fd0` ?18:52
cluelesspersonhans_: floppy disk?18:52
hans_maybe VMWare is doing something weird with floppy disk emulation18:52
hans_dunno18:52
tomreynmigs123: you have mixed xenial (16.04) and bionic (18.04) apt sources. you need to clean those up.18:53
migs123how do I do that18:53
migs123tomreyn,18:53
migs123ya cause i recently upgraded18:54
migs123tomreyn, I actually went into my repository list after I got that error when upgrading and selected some of them18:54
tomreynmigs123: run "software-properties-gtk --open-tab=1" and either remove or edit those which say "xenial"18:55
tomreynmigs123: you have not yet shown an error, just an informational message about packages not getting installed (kept back)18:56
tomreyn(...as the result of an unknown command you ran there)18:56
migs123tomreyn, yes but I actually interupted an upgrade through the terminal by accicdent I am wondering if that threw the system off18:56
jsieverst/f, no way in a crontab to launch something on alternate tuesdays w/out additional tests?18:57
tomreynmigs123: i couldn't tell, yet, but we can find out. but first of all, make sure you have 'bionic' apt sources only (you can keep 'bionic' PPAs).18:57
jsieverssuch as having to calculate out day number since 1st tuesday of epoch and then mod 1418:57
tomreynjsievers: how about 2/2 in the day of week field?18:59
migs123tomreyn, how do you disable the sources from 16.04?19:00
tomreynmigs123: <tomreyn> migs123: run "software-properties-gtk --open-tab=1" and either remove or edit those which say "xenial"19:00
jsieverstomreyn: but what about dsay of month field, docs say DOM and DOW are or'd19:00
tomreynjsievers: i'm not sure i got "alternate tuesdays" corrently. does this mean every 2nd tuesday?19:01
migs123tomreyn, all of my ppa's are xenial?19:02
jsieverstomreyn: yes19:02
tomreynjsievers: then just put * for month19:02
tomreynand for day of month, too19:02
tomreynmigs123: some of them. see what you posted to the pastebin19:02
migs123tomreyn, handbrake, airplayer smplayer all have xenial19:02
migs123ok19:03
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migs123tomreyn, I will checkagian soryr19:03
jsieverstomreyn: right but methinks cron going to launch it daily19:03
tomreynjsievers: can you quote the manual where it says tht DOM and DOW are OR'd?19:05
migs123tomreyn, so I really cant keep the xenial ppas? brightbox is for screencasting and i love smplayer...19:05
tomreynmigs123: maybe those ppa's provide the same software for bionic. try just editing these lines, replacing 'xenial' by 'bionic'19:06
JimBuntuI think tomreyn has it with 2/2, or possibly with tue/2. That should skip every other tuesday19:06
migs123o ok19:07
jsieverstomreyn: man 5 crontab then... The  day of a command's execution...19:09
jsieverstomreyn: confusing but seems to imply there's no purely crontabish way of doing it :-(19:09
JimBuntu"Step values can be used in conjunction with ranges. Following a range with "/<number>" specifies skips of the number's value through the range."19:10
JimBuntu^^ means you may not get away with using the tue/2 example as I was mixing names with steps19:11
tomreynjsievers: i would think that "30 4 * * 2/2" would run it on every second tuesday at 4:30 only. but if you also explicity specify DOM or month, you'd neeed to use the additional test.19:11
migs123tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vgqKjSXBGP/19:12
tomreynjsievers: i'm not entirely certain there, though, so i'd suggest testing it (by also setting hour = * and minute = NOW +1m)19:12
migs123tomreyn, but I am still getting the The following packages have been kept back:19:12
migs123  gir1.2-peas-1.0 libpeas-1.0-0 qml-module-io-thp-pyotherside rdnssd19:12
migs123  ruby-byebug ruby-json19:12
tomreynmigs123: as a result of which command?19:12
jsieverstomreyn  and trying to say tue/2 gives an error19:13
migs123when I do the sudo-apt get upgrade19:13
tomreynjsievers: my suggestion was 2/219:13
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migs123tomreyn, so those packages that are left back are ok? I tried to install them through synaptic but it said they are broken19:15
tomreynmigs123: what about: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:15
migs123tomreyn, same thing19:15
JimBuntuindeed jsievers , 2/2 isn't working in my simulations for day of the week, I use this for mins/hours frequently19:15
tomreynmigs123: please post the url returned by:  sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-get update 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get -Vy dist-upgrade 2>&1 ; echo '*****'; apt-cache policy gir1.2-peas-1.0 libpeas-1.0-0 qml-module-io-thp-pyotherside rdnssd ruby-byebug ruby-json 2>&1; )19:18
tomreynmigs123: note that this command wrapped onto two lines here19:19
pragmaticenigmajsievers: Looking for every other tuesday? this may work: 30 4 * * 2 [`expr \`date +\%s\` / 86400 \% 2` -eq 1] && /command19:19
migs123tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q9GJjspXCY/19:20
pragmaticenigmajsievers: or 30 4 1-31/2 * 2 /command19:22
pragmaticenigmaI have more confidence in the second one19:22
tomreynmigs123: so apparently ruby-byebug and ruby-json are no longer an issue?19:22
tomreynmigs123: please ignore this question19:24
migs123tomreyn, ok cause i wasn't sure what you meant lol19:25
ioriamispp, you still have xenial pkgs install ; try with apt install --reinstall or with   apt full-upgrade19:25
ioria*ed19:25
JimBuntupragmaticenigma, wouldn't that be basically every other day and every tuesday?19:25
funabashiwith apt-cache search tool. how can i see which version its?19:26
tomreynmigs123: please post the output of: sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( sudo apt-mark showhold 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get update 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get -Vy install gir1.2-peas-1.0 libpeas-1.0-0 qml-module-io-thp-pyotherside rdnssd ruby-byebug ruby-json 2>&1; )19:26
tomreynioria: were you addressing migs123? they already did dist-upgrade, which i think is equivalent to full-upgrade19:27
ioriatomreyn, yep19:27
pragmaticenigmaJimBuntu: No, it's every odd tuesday19:27
JimBuntuOh, I thought any day match would trigger it.19:28
tomreynfunabashi: i don't think you can (not sure though), but you can with apt-cache policy <packegname>19:28
cluelesspersonmy syslog is getting "general protection fault"19:30
cluelesspersonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_protection_fault19:30
cluelesspersonit's unclear if this is caused by potentially malicious / broken software, or failing hardware19:30
tomreynfunabashi: apt-cache(8) states that you can: apt-cache search --full <packagename>19:30
pragmaticenigmaJimBuntu: I think I have the asterisk in the right spot... I use a very similar one to trigger a download on the second wednesday of the month19:30
migs123ioria, I don't see any xenial packages19:30
tomreyncluelessperson: show the logged message in context, also have a look at (and possibly pastebinit) the 'dmesg' command output19:31
ioriamigs123, gir1.2-peas-1.0: 1.16.0-1ubuntu2 is Xenial not bionic19:31
funabashitomreyn: i want a newer version then i have, do you know how i can add this ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/artful/amd64/openvas/9.0.019:31
tomreynfunabashi: artful is 17.10, end of life, no longer supported.19:32
migs123tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/srDrwWqJ6V/19:32
pragmaticenigma!latest | funabashi19:32
ubottufunabashi: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.19:32
tomreynfunabashi: are you saying you are trinyg to install openvas 9? on which ubuntu version?19:33
funabashitomreyn: 17.1019:33
tomreyn!eol | funabashi19:33
ubottufunabashi: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:33
tomreyn!17.1019:34
ubottuUbuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) was the 27th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 19th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2018-July/004483.html19:34
migs123ioria, tomreyn == should I just unistall those packages via synaptic?19:34
migs123or is there a bionic equivalent19:35
ioriamigs123, i'd try to reinstall     sudo apt install --reinstall gir1.2-peas-1.0 libpeas-1.0-0 qml-module-io-thp-pyotherside rdnssd ruby-byebug ruby-json19:36
cluelesspersontomreyn: https://ghostbin.com/paste/cfmhh19:36
tomreynmigs123: you will need to purge ruby (and optionally reinstall it) and install libpython3.619:37
ioriamigs123, the problem might be that libpython3.6 is not from repo but from a ppa19:38
cluelesspersontomreyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/178732819:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1787328 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "smb/cifs support triggers general protection fault" [High,Confirmed]19:38
cluelesspersonmight be that19:38
migs123tomreyn, ioria so I can't install libpyton3.6 from the terminal?19:40
cim209i got detached a channel from hexchat, how do i re-attach it?19:41
tomreyncluelessperson: i agree, looks related. i'd subscribe to the bug and not use cifs omunts for now, if possible.19:41
tomreynmigs123: i dont see why not?19:41
ioriamigs123,  that pkg is only from ppa,if you updated it should work19:42
tomreyncim209: select from the menu of the detached window: hexchat -> attach19:42
funabashitomreyn: if u can install it on ubuntu 16.x you must be able to do it in 17.10 but thanks anyway for help19:43
migs123tomreyn, ioria I do see libpython3.6 in synaptie19:43
ioria!info libpython3.619:43
ubottulibpython3.6 (source: python3.6): Shared Python runtime library (version 3.6). In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.5-3 (bionic), package size 1423 kB, installed size 4823 kB19:43
cim209tomreyn, oh wow i didn't see that. i'm using the cupertino mate panels and i just seen two menus that says hexchat19:43
tomreynfunabashi: end of life releases are not supported here19:43
ioriamigs123,  ok19:43
migs123tomreyn, ioria I tried to install it from synaaptic and it says there are broken packages19:44
tomreynfunabashi: (and i have a feeling we told you so before?)19:44
cluelesspersontomreyn: ugh. :(  nautilus smb mounts are slow as hell19:44
tomreyncim209: there's also #hexchat btw.19:44
ioriamigs123,  probably olso ruby is outdated   - apt-cache policy ruby | pastebinit19:44
cim209tomreyn, thanks i didn't know19:44
tomreynioria: ruby is from xenial based on its version string19:45
ioriayes19:45
tomreyncf. lines 27-28 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/srDrwWqJ6V/19:45
migs123ioria, yes I uninstalled and reinstalled it19:45
ioriamigs123,  apt-cache policy ruby | pastebint19:46
ioriamigs123,  apt-cache policy ruby | pastebinit19:46
migs123ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pzB3xpYtRx/19:46
tomreyncluelessperson: you could try using smbclient instead for now (until this apparent kernel bug has been solved)19:47
ioriamigs123,  that is ok19:47
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: I think you tagged the wrong person19:47
migs123ioria, what is ok19:47
ioriamigs123,  ruby version19:48
tomreynpragmaticenigma: where?19:48
pragmaticenigmanm tomreyn19:48
migs123ioria, ruby 2.5.1p57 (2018-03-29 revision 63029)19:48
migs123ioria, tomreyn how can i install the libpython19:48
tomreynpragmaticenigma: i tend to, though, thanks for keeping an eye on it :)19:49
cluelesspersontomreyn: I for one believe and subscribe to my ubuntu overlords.19:49
ioriamigs123, wait... it's  not 2.5.1p57 it's 1:2.5.1   why you wrote that ?19:50
tomreynioria: this will be --version output, i yould think19:50
migs123ioria, sorry I just did ruby --version in terminal I see that it is differetn in the pastebinm19:51
tomreynmigs123: sudo apt purge libpython3.6; sudo apt install libpython3.619:51
ioriamigs123, that ^19:51
migs123tomreyn, I got "The following packages have unmet dependencies:19:52
migs123 libpython3.6 : Depends: libpython3.6-stdlib (= 3.6.5-3) but 3.6.5-5~16.04.york1 is to be installed19:52
migs123"19:52
tomreynmigs123: use "dpkg -l <packagename> | cat" or "apt-cache policy <packagename" (and look for the version preceeding "/var/lib/dpkg/status")  to determine the package version19:52
ioriamigs123, told you , you still have xenial pkgs installed19:53
tomreynmigs123: geez, your dependencies are all messaed up because you had those xenial ppas. try my script to list all those non bionic packages... https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts/#foreign_packages19:53
tomreyn...where "xenial packages" means "package versions from xenial"19:54
migs123tomreyn, what do i do after that19:57
tomreynmigs123: you either "install" (upgrade to) the proper package versions from bionic (see apt-cache policy <packagename> to get those versions), or you purge those packages which you con't actually need.19:58
migs123tomreyn, so I can just purge the gir1 and reinstall20:00
migs123?20:00
migs123tomreyn, ioria so I tried to purge the gir1.2 pease20:01
migs123peas20:01
migs123I tried to reinstall it but I got the dependency issu20:01
tomreynmigs123: example for finding bionic version and upgrading to it: find bionic version number for bash: "apt-cache policy bash" (the 'Candidate' one is that from bionic, or from your PPA for bionic). to install (upgrade to) the proper bash version: "apt install bash=4.4.18-2ubuntu1"20:04
tomreynso this is how it can be done without purging.20:04
tomreynmigs123: with purging, you can use "dpkg --purge <packagename>" instead of "apt purge <packagename>" since dpkg is more forgiving when you create dependency issues. and if you just purge, then install (this time using apt) a package this will resolve the dpeendency issues the purge caused.20:06
migs123tomreyn, I just purged all of those packages that were held back, is that wrong?20:08
tomreynmigs123: not if you'll reinstall them, or they're not neede3d.20:08
migs123tomreyn, are those packages important?20:09
tomreynmigs123: apt will complain if so.20:09
tomreynmigs123: can you hsow the output of the foreign_packages script?20:10
tomreynmigs123: also: apt update; apt -f install20:11
tomreyn+sudo20:11
migs123tomreyn, i will pastebin it20:12
migs123http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/x96fVDbWYQ/20:12
tomreynlol, not a short list20:12
migs123haha20:13
migs123tomreyn, now I can see some of the xenial packages20:13
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tomreynyes, this is what this script helps you with20:14
migs123great20:14
migs123tomreyn, thanks it is very helpful20:14
tomreynmigs123: note that not all of these lines of output end with ": No available version in archive", some end with " newer than version in archive"20:15
AnkhersWhen using the zip command line utility, does anyone know if it is possible to specify a directory, but have its contents be at the top level of the archive?20:16
migs123tomreyn, so what does no available version mean in this circumstance pertaining to my issue?20:17
tomreynmigs123: what you need to do now is to purge all those which end with ": No available version in archive", and to downgrade (or dpkg --purge  and apt install) those which end in " newer than version in archive"20:17
migs123tomreyn, really? all of them?20:17
tomreynmigs123: ": No available version in archive" means that you currently have no apt source active which provides this package in any version.20:17
tomreyni.e. it's a leftover package from some ppa you used to have, or maybe a package you manually installed, not from an apt source.20:18
migs123tomreyn, they all have "no available version" except for youtube-dl at bottom20:18
migs123So I guess I have to reinstal smplayer youtube-dl and the ruby 2.0 dev for screencasting20:19
tomreynmigs123: no, 12 of them are "newer than version in archive"20:19
migs123ok20:20
tomreynlibpython3.6-minimal:amd64 libpython3.6-stdlib:amd64 linux-generic-hwe-16.04:amd64 linux-headers-generic-hwe-16.04:amd64 linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04:amd64 python3.6:amd64 python3.6-minimal:amd64 ruby-dev:amd64 smplayer:amd64 smplayer-themes:all smtube:amd64 youtube-dl:all20:20
tomreynthose20:20
tomreynmigs123: you probably dont want linux-generic-hwe-16.04 and linux-headers-generic-hwe-16.04 and linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04   - those are just the packages which provide the bionic kernel on 16.04. but since you're now running bionic you dont need those.20:22
ramsub07Hi, how do i start teamviewer from SSH?20:22
ramsub07I am connected to a system through SSH but it's at my office and I need teamviewer to see terminal outputs20:23
migs123tomreyn, is there a way to just select the package and not the "no available version"20:23
migs123like a python script or something20:24
tomreynAnkhers: you can change to the directory above the files you want to add, so that the (remaining) path to the files is the same as you want them to appear on the archive. once there, be sure to specify the path to where the zip file should be created while runnign the 'zip' command.20:25
migs123tomreyn, i am just going to purge the packages you pasted up there and then do the installing again20:26
tomreynmigs123: ./foreign_packages | grep ': No available version in archive$' | cut -d ' ' -f1 | xargs echo20:26
migs123tomreyn, I have to go for a run20:27
migs123oh ok20:27
migs123thankd20:27
pragmaticenigmaramsub07: This is an old article, not sure if it will help. This channel doesn't support teamviewer, you will need to find a teamviewer specific help forum for further assistance: http://www.tonisoto.com/2013/07/launching-teamviewer-remotely-throught-ssh/20:28
tomreynto prevent all this trouble you're in now next time you upgrade ubuntu to a new release, be sure to ppa-purge20:28
tomreynmigs123: ^20:28
ramsub07pragmaticenigma: that, I've tried. Doesn't work anymore20:28
ramsub07at least in 16.0420:28
pragmaticenigmaramsub07: Then you will have to seek help in a TeamViewer support forum20:29
pragmaticenigmaramsub07: Or contact your employers help desk20:29
migs123tomreyn, thanks so much20:29
tomreynwelcome20:29
cognitionHi, I have a 14.04 system and the security scan on it showed many vulnerabilities20:30
migs123wow that is a really cool tool20:30
tomreyncognition: what is "the security scan on it"?20:30
migs123tomreyn,  thanks for all your help!20:30
cognitionhttp://pastebin.com/vxajcJzZ20:30
tomreynmigs123: you're welcome! :)20:30
tomreyncognition: this helps, but doesn't answer my question.20:31
migs123tomreyn, one last question is there a way to export this chat ?20:31
pragmaticenigmacognition: what tool are you using and you will have to provide more details20:31
cognitionI think nessus20:31
tomreyn!irclog | migs12320:32
tomreyn!irclogs | migs12320:32
ubottumigs123: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/20:32
tomreynmigs123: those logs are a bit delayed, by 20 or 30 minutes, i think.20:32
pragmaticenigmamigs123: Note that the logs are delayed by up to one hour20:32
cognitionso would an os upgrade help? it is a web server, would anything break?20:32
migs123!irclog | migs12320:33
pragmaticenigmacognition: if you use the official ubuntu upgrade tools, it should be fine. if this is a production environment at a company... stop... you should build a migration plan and build a new server, transfering things over20:33
cognitionk, ty20:34
tomreyncognition: most likely something related to your web applications will break when you release upgrade. and maybe other things, too. release upgrades on production systems need to be planned and tested carefully.20:34
cognitionk, ty20:34
tomreyncognition: be sure you have complete and reliably restorable backups. if you don't mind (maybe days of downtime), you can upgrade directly and fix what breaks. if downtime is an issue, then you should clone the system and test upgrading it on a the clone, and take notes of anything you needed to do to make it work. and only then apply these changes on the production system.20:36
migs123tomreyn, how do you do the grep for "new version in archive" I replaced the "no available version" but didnt work20:39
tomreyncognition: the very most of these issues reported by your scanner can be overcome by configuration changes. but some of them do indeed require upgrading.20:39
tomreynmigs123: ./foreign_packages | grep 'newer than version in archive$' | cut -d ' ' -f1 | xargs echo20:40
tomreynmigs123: the colon (:) is only present in the other message, easy to miss20:41
tomreyn"$" means "here's the end of the line"20:41
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TOOG13624I'm having a hell of a time getting samba working after a do-release-upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04.20:46
TOOG13624Even with an absolutely fresh configuration, as soon as I add a share I can no longer browse the server shares - it asks for a un/pw and fails even with a user set with smbpasswd20:47
TOOG13624After completely removing everything samba (apt autoremove --purge samba*) and installing fresh, I can browse the (nonexistent) shares on the server as expected20:51
TOOG13624as in, I can browse to the samba server from Windows 10, and it shows the empty list of directories20:51
TOOG13624I can then add a directory share20:55
TOOG13624but as soon as I add a user with smbpasswd, I can't authenticate as guest or as the user20:56
ramsub08is there a recommendable RDP for linux?20:57
ramsub08client*20:57
RabidWeezleI use remina20:58
katamoramsub08 ditto RabidWeezle20:58
RabidWeezleI might have spelled that wrong20:58
katamoor use guacamole as html5 client but it takes work to build20:58
RabidWeezleworks great on windows server and ssh :)20:58
katamoremmina i think20:58
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RabidWeezleFound that on accident one day on like elementary's software store20:59
TOOG13624Even with a completely stock config file, the moment I add a samba user with smbpasswd, I can no longer connect in any way to the smb server. Can't list shares, can't authenticate.21:06
ghostnik11every time i run: sudo dpkg --configure -a it freezes when it gets to: installing for i386-efi platform and my lubuntu system crashes21:06
funabashican anyone be nie and tell me why i cant be able to install this program with apt-get  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bkbYc4NGS3/21:28
katamofunabashi what distro/version?21:29
katamofunabashi did you add a repo that supplies those packages?21:30
funabashi Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS21:31
funabashiyes i did add sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mrazavi/openvas21:31
katamofunabashi i'm testing it on bionic real quick for funzies21:32
funabashi;);)21:33
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hggdhfunabashi: did you run apt update before trying to install?22:03
funabashihggdh: yep22:13
ablil4khello world22:18
ablil4khello friend22:31
katamofunabashi sorry i fell off the radar. just did the ppa install, apt update, then apt install openvas9 and its installing now on a clean bionic lxd container22:38
tomreynapt-cache policy openvas9 openvas9-manager openvas9-scanner openvas9-gsa openvas9-cli22:43
tomreynnote that openvas is also in bionic22:44
tomreyn!info openvas bionic22:45
ubottuopenvas (source: openvas): remote network security auditor - dummy package. In component universe, is extra. Version 9.0.2 (bionic), package size 10 kB, installed size 54 kB22:45
katamotomreyn fair enough22:48
katamoI hadnt come across that package before22:48
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EnglishInfixI'm having an issue installing packages rpl and krb5-user on 18.04. I am following the official documentation for SSSD for 18.04 and have tested it before a few weeks ago and had it work. Now apt-get returns that the package is no longer avaliable. It worked a few weeks ago and now it doesn't, even on a fresh install. has something happened to these packages?22:50
tomreynEnglishInfix: which package is reported to be no longer availale?22:50
EnglishInfixkrb5-user and rpl22:51
tomreyn!info rpl bionic22:51
ubotturpl (source: rpl): intelligent recursive search/replace utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.7-1 (bionic), package size 8 kB, installed size 34 kB22:51
tomreyn!info krb5-user bionic22:51
ubottukrb5-user (source: krb5): basic programs to authenticate using MIT Kerberos. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.16-2build1 (bionic), package size 104 kB, installed size 385 kB22:51
tomreynlooks available to me.22:51
EnglishInfixit's strange, I was able to install it a few weeks ago and it work fine, but now whenever I try, even on a new system, but I get an error claiming that the package is "not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"22:53
tomreynthis can be due to bug 178312922:53
ubottubug 1783129 in subiquity "Only "main" component enabled after install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178312922:53
EnglishInfixi will check sources.list and see if universe is not enabled22:54
EnglishInfixtomreyn: it does appear i was missing the default repos. what a bug. thanks for the help :)23:09
pr0tHas anyone ever used cobbler to mirror Ubuntu apt repositoiries?23:40
pr0tI'm having some difficulties myself23:40
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katamopr0t, i've only used apt-mirror personally23:42

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