| tomreyn | bambam: i didn't actually finish the installation, noticed it does a uefi installation which means it is going to work out fine. | 00:00 |
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| bambam | FXpro: my friend that's the globalism that was sold to us in the past 30 years. There's no more western companies, just multinationals who will sell out our jobs and souls to make an extra buck. | 00:00 |
| bambam | tomreyn: no problem, I'll do it now, and hopefully the result boots on the laptop | 00:00 |
| tomreyn | !irclogs | also see my earlier statements after you said you'd leave, bambam | 00:01 |
| ubottu | also see my earlier statements after you said you'd leave, bambam: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ | 00:01 |
| guiverc | if you mismatch your software & desktop (lubuntu pre 18.10 uses gtk+2) users often assume a lighter DE will be faster, yes it is, but sometimes no too, but wrong choice of apps can waste memory & another choice may be faster for YOUR needs - ie. if you do the hoemwork, you can work out what is fastest for you.. | 00:01 |
| guiverc | dar123: if you need example, just ask - i prefer working-out-myself (helps me remember/learn it) & assume others are the same.. | 00:02 |
| bambam | IRC logs are not real-time I guess. #ubuntu.txt 's last entry is half-way through our conversation before I left, when we were talking about GPT/MBR | 00:02 |
| bambam | nm, when I refreshed it got an extra hour | 00:03 |
| bambam | I guess it updates every hour | 00:03 |
| bambam | I saved your instructions, in case BIOS booting becomes a necessity one day | 00:04 |
| FXpro | lubuntu comes with java and wine? or if not it is easy to get it on there? | 00:05 |
| tomreyn | sudo apt install wine default-jre | 00:06 |
| FXpro | and bambam, yes that is correct. btw, they can eat a big fat bag of dks. no wonder they want to kill nationalist patriot trump. | 00:06 |
| FXpro | actually all those complainers over the president are simply cry babies who cant take heat. | 00:07 |
| FXpro | and the censorship stuff, that is going to lead to an antitrust situation to break up these people's monopoly on the flow of information and freedom of speech which they are violating. likely a huge drop in te FAANG stocks as a result. | 00:08 |
| tomreyn | so this channel is really just meant for ubuntu support. there are #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss (on topic discussion), also. | 00:08 |
| FXpro | *SHRUGS* just saying.... | 00:09 |
| === exojelly is now known as cosjelly | ||
| kumool | FXpro, pretty sure steamos comes with wine installed, so try that OS | 00:18 |
| kumool | FXpro, windows also comes with a version of wine installed as well | 00:18 |
| kumool | but its a weird one | 00:18 |
| kumool | It works with most things, which is bizarre for a wine clone | 00:19 |
| FXpro | hmmm, interesting. but i can just install wine onto lubuntu too so | 00:33 |
| audioburn | what replaced daemon.log in ubuntu 16.04? | 00:40 |
| welastevil | hi people | 00:40 |
| welastevil | Im trying to use compiz in my new ubuntu version | 00:41 |
| welastevil | but it seams impossible | 00:41 |
| FXpro | ubuntu mini?? | 00:41 |
| welastevil | dont know | 00:41 |
| FXpro | is that a thing worth trying or? | 00:41 |
| welastevil | yep! | 00:42 |
| welastevil | compiz is awesome | 00:42 |
| welastevil | but I just install the new version | 00:42 |
| welastevil | if you know a better version that feets better compus just say | 00:42 |
| Bashing-om | FXpro: "sysop@x1804mini:~/uwn$" I so do prefer a minimal install :) | 00:43 |
| bambam | tomreyn: unfortunately, despite installing to the USB drive from an EFI VM, the result won't boot on the EFI laptop. Same as before, it just fails to boot and goes back to UEFI, with no error message. I guess this might be more of a UEFI issue than laptop. Sigh... | 00:44 |
| FXpro | I saw it on the list of yumi which is what I am using to add these to a jump drive for testing. | 00:44 |
| Bashing-om | FXpro: The minimal install, ya get a kernel, booting and and wired connection .. the rest you have to add . | 00:46 |
| bambam | tomreyn: I think this might be a Ubuntu bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1173457 | 00:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1396379 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1173457 installer uses first EFI system partition found even when directed otherwise" [Medium,Triaged] | 00:48 |
| bambam | tomreyn: I can't even boot the USB in the VM itself. It just dumps me to a GRUB prompt. | 00:50 |
| FXpro | Bashing-om, not sexy enough for me. i just need something that works reliable and is functional. | 00:52 |
| FXpro | lubuntu for this old dell d630 I am hopeful will fit the bill. | 00:53 |
| FXpro | so far, mxlinux is working the best from what I have tested while distro hoping. | 00:53 |
| Bashing-om | FXpro: :) .. lubuntu is good - going to LXQT next release though . | 00:54 |
| welastevil | compiz whas my favorit thing in linux | 00:54 |
| welastevil | but can not run in my version | 00:55 |
| tomreyn | bambam: :-/ sorry to hear this. maybe installing with the alternative server installer will yield different / better results, but this would mean you'd have to partition manually. the server live installer is yet another option, and lastly there's also debootstrap. but neither of these (except for the server live installer, i guess) are easy to use. | 00:59 |
| djhd | hellos, I've just finished an upgrade to 18.04.1 LTS and I'm getting DNS errors constantly, immediately after the first reboot. deleting and setting up the Wi-Fi connection fixes it until the next reboot. anyone have an idea what might be going on here? | 00:59 |
| bambam | tomreyn: problem with manual partitioning is that I have no clue how to enable encryption on it, it's not for casual users from what I can see on the wiki. I think I'm gonna look for another distro, hopefully their installers don't have any issues. Thanks for your advice! | 01:02 |
| tomreyn | bambam: i'm afraid there indeed seems to be no easy (GUI/automated) way to do this at this time. encryption can be added later, but this, too, means fiddling with partitions and working on a terminal. | 01:05 |
| FXpro | crap, I got disconnected. | 01:05 |
| FXpro | so far the installer of lubuntu is identical to that of peppermint os. | 01:06 |
| tomreyn | bambam: so... good luck finding something better ;) | 01:06 |
| FXpro | I think peppermint os is simply a mod of lubuntu and the same crap :) | 01:06 |
| FXpro | ummm, crap, problems again | 02:17 |
| ZaZaQR | I just got a System76 Oryx Pro. It has a nvidia 1060 graphic card. I can't get the system76 drivers to install. I can get the graphic card to be installed in the repository, but it still freezes on me. Such as reboot and homepage after typing in my password | 02:18 |
| cluelessperson | Question. on a remote server there are a TON of files in some directories | 02:21 |
| cluelessperson | instead of trying to mount directories locally in what seems to take forever to get a list of files | 02:21 |
| cluelessperson | is there a way to open a file, from the server, n a way it shows up on my machine? | 02:21 |
| cluelessperson | basiclaly, open the file, and have that one file communicated back | 02:22 |
| Bashing-om | ZaZaQR: What release and what desktop ? Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' to see if a driver is loaded . | 02:31 |
| ZaZaQR | ah, i'm using pop os right now | 02:32 |
| ZaZaQR | its the only stable working OS that works on this machine | 02:32 |
| ZaZaQR | the system76 drivers won't load | 02:35 |
| ZaZaQR | http://dpaste.com/3K1Q5ZD | 02:35 |
| Bashing-om | ZaZaQR: Sorry, no experience with system76-driver-nvidia, I can not say . | 02:37 |
| ZaZaQR | sudo apt install nvidia-driver-396 | 02:38 |
| ZaZaQR | got me the graphic drivers | 02:39 |
| ZaZaQR | but the system still freezes on me. when i restart, shutdown and login | 02:39 |
| kk4ewt | ZaZaQR, try something other than the gnome desktop | 02:40 |
| ZaZaQR | I got the Pop OS which comes with the nvidia and system76 drivers installed | 02:41 |
| ZaZaQR | it jsut works | 02:41 |
| ZaZaQR | I tried Linux Mint, same issue. | 02:41 |
| ZaZaQR | It I got the 64 bit Cinnamon | 02:41 |
| ZaZaQR | I even tried the beta Ubuntu 18.10 | 02:42 |
| === theology is now known as audioburn | ||
| ariyasu | hello | 03:09 |
| ariyasu | is there anyway to see which version of gcc, was in each version of ubuntu? | 03:09 |
| Bashing-om | ariyasu: Sure, See: https://packages.ubuntu.com/ . | 03:11 |
| guiverc | ariyasu, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc will tell you the package versions (supported versions + artful anyway; some versions have multiple versions of gcc available) but aren't sure of way to see specific version of gcc default in each without manually looking | 03:12 |
| ftmh17 | hi | 03:14 |
| ftmh17 | anybody here | 03:14 |
| ftmh17 | for help | 03:14 |
| guiverc | nope :) | 03:14 |
| ftmh17 | there is life | 03:14 |
| guiverc | ask your Ubuntu Support question, and if someone knows the answer they will respond | 03:14 |
| ftmh17 | k | 03:14 |
| ftmh17 | how do you use Socks5 for global settings on Lubuntu 18 | 03:15 |
| ariyasu | thanks Bashing-om | 03:15 |
| Bashing-om | ariyasu: :) | 03:15 |
| ftmh17 | windows has Proxifier , why is Ubuntu so hard to figure out . i have tried redsocks dante, and i cannot get nothing to work | 03:16 |
| ftmh17 | it is driving me insane , i have been trying for allmost 2 weeks | 03:16 |
| ghostnik11 | hey for ubuntu budgie, if you have a device that has only 2gb ram, 32gb hard disk space and has a 64bit cpu. should i put 32bit is on it or 64bit iso. because on download page it says: 64bit should be for computers with 4gb ram and those with uefi csm support. my system is uefi | 03:17 |
| guiverc | ghostnik11, I wouldn't run budgie (gtk+3 is too heavy in sources in my opinion for 2gb), and would opt for 32bit because memory-addressing (non-local) is two bytes smaller... the 32bit difference isn't that great, but every bit helps in my opinion. try & see; more than just DEsktop would be used in what was right for me (eg. if you love gtk+3 apps, budgie is fine..) | 03:21 |
| ghostnik11 | guiverc: no i am trying to see if it will run okay on my baby 2 in 1 tablet that currently has lubuntu 18.04 and want to maybe just give it a test try. but i don't want the device to lag much when i used it to study. its the same asus t100ta model with 2gb ram and 32gb built in hard disk space on motherboard (mmcblk types) | 03:23 |
| ariyasu | ok i got ubuntu running in vm | 03:24 |
| ariyasu | how do i minimize an application | 03:24 |
| ariyasu | and also, how do i run a terminal? | 03:24 |
| ghostnik11 | guiverc: i think one guy over at google plus asus t100 ubuntu group has it. will ask and see how performance is | 03:24 |
| guiverc | sorry ghostnik11 i misread your question. | 03:24 |
| guiverc | ignore my last question, my misread meant my answer was unhelpful sorry! | 03:25 |
| ghostnik11 | guiverc: oh, okay. so i can go with 64bit iso? | 03:25 |
| guiverc | s/my last question/my last response/ | 03:25 |
| * guiverc puts his glasses back on! | 03:26 | |
| ftmh17 | how do you use socks5 for global settings on lubuntu | 03:26 |
| ariyasu | https://i.imgur.com/SHImH9M.png | 03:26 |
| ariyasu | i see no minimize/maximise/close buttons in firefox :| and no start menu/program menu where i could load a terminal from | 03:27 |
| ftmh17 | ghostnikill hey man i also have lubuntu 18, Do you know by chance how to set socks5 on it ? | 03:27 |
| guiverc | yeah I believe if cpu is x86_64, bios/uefi is 64 bit then 64bit will work.. i'm told memory loss (due to memory-address word size difference) is minimal anyway | 03:28 |
| tomreyn | ariyasu: to resize the window, try double clicking its title bar, or right click on its icon on the panel and see if there's options for resizing there. | 03:28 |
| ariyasu | thanks tomreyn, that worked | 03:29 |
| ariyasu | any idea how i can get a terminal running / pin one to the title bar | 03:30 |
| tomreyn | ariyasu: the top left panel icon leads to the 'desktop menu', you can then type the name of an application, such as 'terminal' | 03:30 |
| tomreyn | once it's running, you can right-click on it the panel icon and pin it. | 03:30 |
| ghostnik11 | guiverc: i will download iso right away then put it through linuxium and give it a go. i want to see if its okay to use b/c it has touch screen support that allows my device to be used like touch screen on smart phone which would be better than the mouse pointer touch screen that i have in lubuntu currently | 03:31 |
| ariyasu | thank you very much tomreyn :) | 03:31 |
| tomreyn | ariyasu: pressing alt-f2 should also bring up a window to launch commands from, and a terminal can also be started by pressing ctrl-alt-t | 03:31 |
| tomreyn | welcome. this is ubuntu 16.04 with the unity shell / desktop. it is supported and will be for another three years. the current ubuntu release is 18.04, which builds on gnome 3 and gnome-shell. | 03:33 |
| tomreyn | ftmh17: are you trying to send *all* traffic througha socks proxy? | 03:36 |
| tomreyn | i see | 03:37 |
| cluelessperson | I'm confused. `dir` works, but `ls` hangs trying to look at a mounted directory | 03:45 |
| cluelessperson | spoke too soon, both hang now | 03:46 |
| ftmh17 | hello | 03:50 |
| ftmh17 | socks5 setup on Lubuntu 18 please help ? | 03:50 |
| ariyasu | does the terminal have some equivilent of the "cls" in windows? | 03:53 |
| tomreyn | cluelessperson: journalling file systems can grow very slow when they're nearly full. other reasons would be much concurrent throughput to this disk or others on the same controller, and disk defects (see 'dmesg -w') | 03:54 |
| tomreyn | ariyasu: reset | 03:54 |
| ftmh17 | socks5 help , | 03:55 |
| === Blade is now known as jakcyyy | ||
| tomreyn | ftmh17: there is "settings -> network -> network proxy -> socks", but i'm not convinced this will redirect all traffic through the proxy. making all traffic flow through a socks 5 proxy may be difficult and you may need to go to length such as these folks did for tor on tails: https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/Tor_enforcement/Network_filter/ | 03:56 |
| ftmh17 | im here | 03:56 |
| tomreyn | ftmh17: an easier approach is to use a vpn (but be sure to test it for dns leaks if that's a concern) | 03:57 |
| ftmh17 | yeah i have nordvpn | 03:57 |
| ftmh17 | why is ubuntu so hard to run network socks5 and on windows proxifier is so simple ? | 03:57 |
| tomreyn | if you are discussing application level traffic redirection through a socks proxy, then thats actually not difficult to set up at all | 03:59 |
| tomreyn | you probably want one of redsocks, tsocks, shadowsocks, torsocks then | 04:02 |
| ftmh17 | i have been on redsocks for like 2 days now | 04:02 |
| ftmh17 | and i cannot get it to work. | 04:02 |
| tomreyn | the above list was missing proxychains4 | 04:03 |
| ftmh17 | i have read the instructions up and down , | 04:03 |
| dyyno | im gonna jump in on this discussion about VPNs, because it seems like you guys know much more than I. Is it possible to access my clients connected to my VPN provider (PIA) as if they were on the same LAN? | 04:03 |
| ftmh17 | i just am not understanding something, and then on top of that. there is only a handfull of instructions and they dont go into detail either | 04:03 |
| ftmh17 | i guess i will keep trying with redsocks, i will come back should i need to get assistance | 04:05 |
| ftmh17 | I love Linux (ubuntu) i mean i will never go back to Windows ever. but i shure do miss how simple windows was | 04:05 |
| tomreyn | ftmh17: can't help with redsocks, never used it. but this and proxychains4 (the '4' is relevant) seem to be your best options nowadays. | 04:06 |
| ftmh17 | ill try | 04:06 |
| tomreyn | simplicity comes at a cost | 04:06 |
| ftmh17 | i know, | 04:06 |
| ftmh17 | Linux 4 Life.. : ) | 04:06 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | havign trouble getting rw mount of multiple disks have 22 disks and sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/disk1 /dev/sda yields bad option | 04:10 |
| tomreyn | ftmh17: this is not supported here, but (not having actually reviewed the source code) i would expect this to be a good utility to handle your proxy and vpn connections: https://ipredator.se/netsplice | 04:10 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | 1@1-1:~$ fdisk -l fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Permission denied fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: Permission denied fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc: Permission denied fdisk: cannot open /dev/sde: Permission denied fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdd: Permission denied fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdf: Permission denied | 04:10 |
| kk4ewt | AlwaysLEarning11, sudo fdisk -l | 04:11 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | i can mount the didsk in read only by opening the disk usage analyser | 04:11 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | but ir readonly | 04:11 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | kk4ewt: i know it is sudo for that i just wanted listing | 04:11 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | the sudo thing just fills the sscren | 04:11 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | trying to get the mount command correct | 04:11 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: which ubuntu verison is this? | 04:12 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | newest looking now beaver | 04:13 |
| tomreyn | !18.04 | 04:13 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) is the 28th release of Ubuntu and the current LTS release. Download at https://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes | 04:13 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | 18.04 lts | 04:13 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | if you really want the long form from fdisk i can send it | 04:14 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: can you: sudo lsblk -o +LABEL,MODEL | pastebinit | 04:14 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | but 22 hdds is alot of text | 04:14 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | installing now | 04:15 |
| tomreyn | actually do: sudo lsblk -o +LABEL,MODEL 2>&1 | pastebinit | 04:15 |
| tomreyn | that's a lot of disks. is it a storage server? | 04:16 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QN4hxZ5FZG/ <--- i trimmed it down some as some drives had companyt name | 04:17 |
| Goop | Just out of curiousity, I've been wanting to make a website for making articles on settings things up and understanding tech more. Do any of you think it would be successful? | 04:18 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: that's just 6 disks now. does your PSU provide enough current to handle all of those disks? | 04:18 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | they all show up as readonly just fine | 04:18 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | even if i have to go through them 6 at a time its fine | 04:19 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: are you mixing up disks with file systems? | 04:19 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | my task is consolidate and destroy | 04:19 |
| tomreyn | where do your HDDs show up as read-only? | 04:19 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | if i go to the disk usage analyser and i go down the list clicking them all they mount | 04:20 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | but they mount as read only | 04:20 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | then show up on the desktop /media | 04:20 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | etc | 04:20 |
| tomreyn | when something "moounts", then it is a file system | 04:20 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | each drive should have 1 main partition | 04:21 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | so then i mean 22 drives | 04:21 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | and 22 filing systems | 04:21 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | wish there was a nice gui for all this | 04:21 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | i have a feeling im goign to be typping a while | 04:21 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | and also fixing my sticky keys from coke | 04:22 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | a bad mix | 04:22 |
| tomreyn | so on what you posted we have 6 drives, one of which is an SD/MMC card. another one is an ssd, which this system was booted from. which leaves 4 HDDs, two of which have 2 partitions on them , the others just one parition. | 04:23 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | tristam correct | 04:24 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | all i care about is the main partitions not the boot or the 128M ones | 04:24 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | im just throwing all the data onto two drives then tossing them in the trash | 04:25 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | them=others | 04:25 |
| Rouner | Hey, My Ubuntu was stoped when my WiFi aborted , but the mouse can move . ctrl+alt+f3 didn’t work。what should i do | 04:25 |
| Rouner | Only reboot? | 04:26 |
| tomreyn | !sysrq | Rouner | 04:26 |
| ubottu | Rouner: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 04:26 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: normally, you should be able to mount these file systems using the graphical file browser | 04:27 |
| tomreyn | (which is called "nautilus") | 04:28 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | currently they are mounted | 04:29 |
| tomreyn | Rouner: i'd also try some other TTYs, though, just to be sure. ctrl-alt-f4,5,6 | 04:29 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | i just cant delete anything | 04:29 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | or write | 04:29 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: which file system is it? "mount" will tell | 04:30 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | went to properties->permissions | 04:30 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | ntfs | 04:30 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | ima ssumign whatever i just changing is gonna take a while as it just froze as i set everyone to read and write | 04:31 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | wow that is bad, sorry for my disaster of a typing job. | 04:31 |
| Rouner | ubottu: it will restore the process following that way? | 04:31 |
| ubottu | Rouner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 04:31 |
| tomreyn | !ntfs | 04:31 |
| ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 04:31 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 04:33 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SmWTRG8zZY/ | 04:33 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: ntfs is a badly documented file system with a gazillion corner cases and without a full open source implementation. it has been mostly reverse engineered but if the file system was modified by linux or was found to be unclean or was ejected uncleanly by any OS, it will have the dirty bit set, and there is no way on linux to fully recover from that. | 04:34 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | sigh, ok | 04:35 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | so boot into windows | 04:35 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | and just uise that | 04:35 |
| ariyasu | how can i elevate gui applications? | 04:35 |
| tomreyn | when the dirty bit is set, linux will only mount the file system read-only | 04:35 |
| ariyasu | i need an elevated text editor to edit a file | 04:35 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | im assuming then best solution is to install windows and go from there? | 04:36 |
| guiverc | ariyasu, elevated? as in elevated permissions, you can use `sudo gedit ..` from terminal if that is what you mean (assuming X and not wayland) | 04:36 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: you could run ntfsfix, which can handle some but not all causes of ntfs becoming 'dirty', it can be sufficient to make it writable again. | 04:36 |
| ariyasu | it's wayland im currently trying to disable guiverc | 04:36 |
| ariyasu | thanks i will try that | 04:36 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bK63yQqby4/ | 04:37 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: the best way to work with a not fully specified OS dependant file system, is to work on the OS it is supposed to be sued with. | 04:38 |
| tomreyn | *used | 04:38 |
| Rouner | ubottu: when I reboot with holding down the keys, it is nothing changed @_@ | 04:38 |
| ubottu | Rouner: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 04:38 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: are you sure that /dev/sda1 (one of the 128 MB partitions) hosts an NTFS? | 04:38 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | erm ill look | 04:39 |
| tomreyn | ariyasu: gedit admin:///etc/fstab | 04:40 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | tomreyn: yes tried on all of them | 04:40 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | same message on all | 04:40 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | seems im off to um...legally torrent windows | 04:41 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: well, i guess that's where you turn to the proprietor of your file system. | 04:41 |
| ariyasu | hmm moving on, i installed xfce4, when i log out to select it, then enter my pwd to log back in | 04:41 |
| ariyasu | it just keeps prompting me to enter pwd again | 04:41 |
| ariyasu | if i go back to ubuntu insted of xfce4 session, my pwd works again :| | 04:42 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | one last q | 04:42 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | in the future what is the most ubunut friently file system | 04:42 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | that can deal with large files | 04:42 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | >20gb | 04:42 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: if you want journalling, either ext4 or zfs, i guess. | 04:43 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: xfs may provide better performance with large files | 04:45 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | tomreyn: any change files on a xfs can be read from windows.? | 04:46 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | cross compatability would be nice | 04:46 |
| AlwaysLEarning11 | but i may be asking for a unicorn | 04:46 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: since windows is not really great at supporting many file systems, and microsoft not great at documenting their file systems, your options are limited. there are some attempts (by third parties) to provide, on windows, read access to file systems commonly used on linux systems. and there is this mostly but not entirely complete ntfs implementatio on linux. | 04:49 |
| tomreyn | AlwaysLEarning11: as you may know there is the 'windows subsystem for linux' with the 'ubuntu bash for windows'. it can handle the same file systems ubuntu can. | 04:50 |
| tomreyn | other than that there is FAT32, which works on both windows and most if not all linux distributions (and probably many other OS, too). it lacks most features of a modern file system, however. | 04:51 |
| FXpro | where are the wine apps located? | 04:52 |
| ariyasu | fat32 has filesize limits too | 04:52 |
| ariyasu | exfat would be a good cross compatible file system | 04:53 |
| tomreyn | what makes you think so, ariyasu ? | 04:53 |
| ariyasu | well everything nativly supports it | 04:54 |
| ariyasu | and it doesn't have the 4gb filesize limits of fat32 | 04:54 |
| tomreyn | linux doesn't support exfat natively, no | 04:54 |
| vegombrei | hi'ya'll | 04:54 |
| ariyasu | oh | 04:54 |
| ariyasu | my bad | 04:55 |
| vegombrei | my firefox doent let me save pictures everytime i right click and save image as it fails why does this happen? | 04:55 |
| vegombrei | ah it started after some major updates my computer did online | 04:56 |
| tomreyn | vegombrei: did you restart firefox after those updates? if not, try again once you did | 04:56 |
| vegombrei | tomreyn: yeah i did also removed all the ad onns and plugins thought they were responsible but | 04:57 |
| vegombrei | videos i can save just images it fails | 04:58 |
| tomreyn | vegombrei: is this on every website page or just some? | 04:59 |
| tomreyn | vegombrei: for example, could you save this? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Swami_Vivekananda_Jaipur.jpg | 05:01 |
| vegombrei | tomreyn: nope | 05:01 |
| tomreyn | vegombrei: how exactly do you try, and what happens when you do? and which ubuntu version and firefox version is this? | 05:01 |
| vegombrei | whats the sudo apt-get command to remove firefox? i wanna try reinstalling it | 05:07 |
| vegombrei | im new i dont know this so well is it sudo aot-get remove firefox? | 05:07 |
| Ben64 | try a new profile | 05:08 |
| cim209 | try sudo apt remove firefox | 05:09 |
| vadi | My UEFI Dell system is refusing to boot with a security access violation after my Ubuntu 18.04 laptop ran out of battery power after it installed a kernel upgrade (I didn't have a chance to reboot). How can I make my computer usable again? | 05:11 |
| tomreyn | vadi: can you get the exact error message? | 05:13 |
| vadi | The message is - ERROR Verification failed: (0x1A) Security Violation | 05:14 |
| vadi | And something about start_image failed verification, no bootable medium found. | 05:14 |
| vadi | Googling that error message reveals just one other person who had it, on a Lenovo system, with Ubuntu again: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-U-and-S-Series-Notebooks/Cannot-change-boot-mode-from-UEFI-Lenovo-ideapad-U330p/td-p/4064777 | 05:16 |
| vadi | What can I do to make my system usable again? | 05:16 |
| tomreyn | is this a 32-bit uefi you have there? | 05:17 |
| vadi | I don't know, how can I check? | 05:17 |
| spaceninja | Hi, in older versions of ubuntu there's a "wifi broadband" option for the internet connection , but this is missing in 18.04, maybe duo to gnome. How do I enable it? I've search around, for a solution trying to get a huawei visible in the menu to be able to connect to it. | 05:17 |
| tomreyn | you would know, if so. | 05:17 |
| tomreyn | vadi: i sueggest you look for a bios upgrade | 05:17 |
| vadi | It also allows me to perform MOK management - enroll key or hash. I have no idea what that means. | 05:18 |
| billybigrigger | is there a way to fix this broken dns issue on a fresh 18.04 install? | 05:18 |
| vadi | UEFI came by default on this machine, I just didn't disable it. I didn't do anything special to enable it,. | 05:18 |
| vegombrei | so i figured out the problem .. i think when i upgraded to the latest lubuntu it reset everything and the external drive is fat32 i think it cant save to that drive coz when i try and save it locally it works | 05:18 |
| vegombrei | how to fix that? | 05:18 |
| tomreyn | vadi: mok management is for managinge 'secureboot' certificates. 'secureboot' is a uefi functionality which is meant to ensure that only 'trusted' operating systems and drivers / modules are loaded. | 05:19 |
| spaceninja | huawei 4g broadband | 05:19 |
| vadi | So it thinks the kernel image isn't trusted then, hence it skips it? | 05:19 |
| tomreyn | vadi: some uefi firmwares enable it by default, some dont allow to disable it. | 05:19 |
| tomreyn | vadi: i think you'd get to see a different error message if this was the case | 05:20 |
| vadi | Why? It does say "verification failed" | 05:21 |
| vadi | So supposedly verification of something, perhaps the system Ubuntu should be booting | 05:21 |
| tomreyn | vadi: hmm, maybe its a uefi error message, this may be. | 05:22 |
| tomreyn | vadi: does grub load, though? | 05:23 |
| tomreyn | hold down shift during boot | 05:23 |
| vadi | No, it does not get to grub at all. | 05:24 |
| tomreyn | vadi: this suggests that either grub was overwritten, the secureboot certificates were modified, or there is a hardware failure | 05:27 |
| vadi | OK | 05:27 |
| tomreyn | (or a mix of these) | 05:27 |
| tomreyn | vadi: unless you have another OS installation which is bootable already installed, you'll need to boot off a live / installer iso (usb stick / cdrom) | 05:28 |
| vadi | I don't, no. What should I do with it? | 05:29 |
| vadi | I have Ubuntu 16.04 on a USB stick. | 05:29 |
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| tomreyn | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD | 05:30 |
| vadi | I found a menu in F12 that says UEFI Boot: "ubuntu" "ubuntu" "UEFI: Samsung SSD" "UEFI: Generic Flash Disk" | 05:31 |
| vadi | ShouldI try any of them? and yeah, ubuntu is listed twice. It also says boot mode is set to UEFI and secure boot is on. | 05:32 |
| tomreyn | !fixgrub | 05:32 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 05:32 |
| tomreyn | vadi: you can try booting the 'ubuntu' ones, one by one | 05:33 |
| tomreyn | F12 will be your 'boot menu' for overriding the default boot device order | 05:33 |
| tomreyn | delete, F2 or Fn-F2 should enter the uefi configuration menu. | 05:34 |
| vadi | ОК, I will try it out. | 05:38 |
| K1rk | Is the ntfs implementation still incomplete? It's been a few years since I noticed any glaring issues with NTFS support on Linux | 05:46 |
| tomreyn | K1rk: man ntfsfix | 05:50 |
| Jonno_FTW | hello I have a problem with apt | 06:12 |
| EriC^^ | !details | Jonno_FTW | 06:12 |
| ubottu | Jonno_FTW: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 06:12 |
| Jonno_FTW | I installed amdgpu-pro and now I get a low graphics warning http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DYyqhZrMVJ/ | 06:14 |
| Jonno_FTW | I tried sudo apt-get install -f -y and got the above | 06:14 |
| Jonno_FTW | I'm on ubuntu 16.04.3 lts | 06:15 |
| vadi | I disabled secure boot and I was able to boot Ubuntu. How can I restore boot with secure boot again? | 06:16 |
| EriC^^ | vadi: use the shimx64.efi file | 06:17 |
| vadi | Use how? | 06:18 |
| EriC^^ | vadi: type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here | 06:18 |
| vadi | http://termbin.com/mj1f | 06:19 |
| EriC^^ | vadi: the first entry is using shimx64.efi so it should work with secure boot | 06:21 |
| EriC^^ | if it doesnt i think you'll manually have to add it | 06:21 |
| vadi | it doesn't work, it says security verificiation failed and refuses to boot | 06:22 |
| kristenbb | hello, when I select two video files and open them through the Files manager, it opens two vlc instances, even though I have /usr/bin/vlc --started-from-file %U in /usr/share/applications/vlc.desktop. Is this a known bug in 18.04 ? (it worked in 16.04) | 06:25 |
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| EriC^^ | kristenbb: i dont think the .desktop file would affect the file manager | 06:28 |
| EriC^^ | nevermind | 06:29 |
| vadi | EriC^^: is there any way I can re-sign shimx64.efi? | 06:42 |
| EriC^ | vadi: yeah i think there's a way to get it to work, why go through the trouble though imo? | 06:43 |
| vadi | because it doesn't work? | 06:43 |
| vadi | with secure boot on, my laptop does not boot anymore due to a security verification failure | 06:43 |
| EriC^ | does it work with secureboot off? | 06:44 |
| vadi | Yes | 06:44 |
| EriC^ | so why not disable it | 06:44 |
| vadi | Because I need the security? | 06:44 |
| EriC^ | if somebody has your pc secureboot isnt stopping him from getting your stuff, what's the point really? | 06:44 |
| vadi | Thanks but this is a work laptop so I'm not going to argue there's no point in security with IT | 06:45 |
| * cfhowlett thinks "They don't need to know." | 06:45 | |
| vadi | They will if something happens, then it'll be on me. | 06:46 |
| EriC^ | alright, it was just a thought, personally i'd just turn secureboot off, it's totally up to you | 06:46 |
| vadi | Then Ubuntu won't look very good in their eyes either. | 06:46 |
| cfhowlett | vadi, you have windows on that device? | 06:46 |
| vadi | no, no windows | 06:46 |
| cfhowlett | ... I was going to suggest windows + virtualbox + ubuntu | 06:47 |
| vadi | I removed Windows and put it in Virtualbox instead on native Ubuntu | 06:47 |
| cfhowlett | and now buntu doesn't work. | 06:47 |
| vadi | it did work for about a year | 06:47 |
| vadi | until this weekend. | 06:47 |
| cfhowlett | 16.04 is still supported. | 06:47 |
| vadi | I'm using Ubuntu 18.04, 16.04 was just the USB stick. | 06:48 |
| vadi | So is there any way to re-sign shimx64.efi? | 06:49 |
| EriC^ | vadi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/Testing | 06:50 |
| vadi | thanks! | 06:51 |
| ducasse | vadi: you would need to make keys and add them to your firmware | 06:51 |
| ducasse | vadi: if your firmware has no options for doing that, then no go | 06:51 |
| EriC^ | vadi: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/237279/how-can-i-secure-boot-any-linux-grub-loader | 06:52 |
| EriC^ | this explains stuff and isn't so huge too , look at the bottom https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Secure_Boot | 06:52 |
| tomreyn | my guess is just that vadi removed the default trusted keys and thus also the one which the grub shim is signed by. and that just reinstalling the default key set would suffice to make the system boot again. | 06:55 |
| tomreyn | i doubt that this issue was only introduced by apt updates, as previously stated. | 06:55 |
| cfhowlett | agreed | 06:55 |
| vadi | how can I reinstall that default key set? | 07:09 |
| learningphase | how to permanent set nameserver for a vlan? | 07:27 |
| Serdar | hello | 07:33 |
| Serdar | I have some issues with my software raid1 I did years ago (and never touched) | 07:33 |
| cfhowlett | !raid | Serdar | 07:35 |
| ubottu | Serdar: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto | 07:35 |
| Serdar | for some reason is one partition not in the not linux_raid_member but ext4 | 07:35 |
| Jonno_FTW | anyone? | 07:38 |
| vkolchev | cfhowlett, wow, that is really an ancient doc on ubuntu's fake raid) | 07:45 |
| cfhowlett | I was unaware as I don't do raid. If things have changed significantly, an edit to the wiki might be called for. | 07:46 |
| hurdman | hi | 07:51 |
| hurdman | i try to use a webcam with gstreamer : gst-launch-1.0 -v v4l2src device=/dev/video1 ! video/x-raw,framerate=30/1,width=1280,height=720 ! xvimagesink | 07:51 |
| hurdman | but : | 07:52 |
| hurdman | https://pastebin.com/xDkBHKTe | 07:52 |
| hurdman | any idea ( i can see the video using "cheese" ) ? | 07:52 |
| cfhowlett | hardman if the video shows cheese, then this is not a hardware issue. likely your command is formatted improperly. | 07:54 |
| cfhowlett | suggest you consider vlc | 07:55 |
| hurdman | cfhowlett: do you know what is wrong with my command ? | 07:56 |
| cfhowlett | nope, otherwise I would have happily stated so | 07:56 |
| hurdman | a simple : gst-launch-1.0 -v v4l2src device=/dev/video1 ! xvimagesink | 07:57 |
| hurdman | doesn't work | 07:57 |
| hurdman | but : gst-launch-1.0 videotestsrc ! xvimagesink seems ok | 07:57 |
| hurdman | perhaps, there's a v4l2 issue ? | 07:57 |
| Jonno_FTW | Can I expect this to work with ubuntu 16.04.3? https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-prorad-lin-18-30 it says it works with 16.04.5 | 08:08 |
| hurdman | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/899748 | 08:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 899748 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) "gstreamer v4l2src fails with device=" [Undecided,New] | 08:08 |
| hurdman | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer1.0/+bug/1174492 | 08:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1174492 in gstreamer1.0 (Ubuntu) "gstreamer cannot open v4l2 video capture device" [Undecided,New] | 08:09 |
| hurdman | it seems , i 'am not alone | 08:09 |
| chaosfisch | All videos I'm playing in my browser (chromium from apt) freeze if I "stop moving" my mouse. How can I fix that? | 08:14 |
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| vadi | tomreyn: how can I reinstall the default key set? | 09:01 |
| lotus|NUC | vadi: its possible tomreyn is afk atm, re-ask your issue in the channel perhaps? | 09:03 |
| hans_ | how can i add ipv6 to a ubuntu 18.04 system? most google searches say `edit /etc/network/interfaces` , but that file says it has netplan, so i assume those guides are out of date.. what is the ubuntu 18.04 way? | 09:07 |
| hans_ | err, says it has been replaced with netpla * | 09:08 |
| hans_ | netplan** x.x | 09:08 |
| hans_ | apparently by adding the ipv6 address to the `addresses` parameter of /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml | 09:14 |
| lotus|NUC | !netplan | hans_ can this help? | 09:14 |
| ubottu | hans_ can this help?: Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/ | 09:14 |
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| bubblegum0014 | hey all | 09:23 |
| vadi | lotus|NUC: I'd like to know how to reinstall the default key set that would get the grub shim signed again | 09:24 |
| ducasse | vadi: enter your firmware setup and confirm if they are there or not first | 09:27 |
| [twisti] | im trying to (temporarily) do the following: on ubuntu server L, i am running a VPN client that allows me to connect to an ftp server F on 192.168.... now, on windows client W, on the same network as L, i would like to connect to F. ideally, i would like to set up L so that W can ftp connect to L as if L was the ftp server, without ever needing to know about the forwarding (because in reality | 09:28 |
| [twisti] | we got lots of Ws that we dont want to configure if we dont have to) | 09:28 |
| lotus|NUC | [twisti]: join #ubuntu-server please, they are used to this | 09:29 |
| [twisti] | thank you very much | 09:30 |
| lotus|NUC | [twisti]: also be carefull with ftp, choose a more secure protocol is a danger to use these days | 09:30 |
| [twisti] | lotus|NUC: like i said, its behind a VPN tunnel, and its not our call, its a client that has this horrid setup | 09:31 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: then on L you need to "sudo iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d <IP_OF_L> -p tcp --dport 21 -j DNAT --to <IP_OF_F>" | 09:31 |
| vadi | ducasse: the keys? | 09:31 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: then W can connect to ftp://<IP_OF_L>:21 | 09:31 |
| TvL2386 | forgot one thing | 09:31 |
| ducasse | vadi: yes | 09:31 |
| [twisti] | TvL2386: how do i turn that off/remove it once im done ? | 09:32 |
| vadi | How do I know what I'm looking for - what are their names? | 09:32 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: you also need to masquerade the traffic on L: "sudo iptables -t nat -o <inteface_facing_F> -s <IP-OF_W> -j MASQUERADE" | 09:32 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: by replacing "-I" (insert) with "-D" (delete) in those lines | 09:33 |
| [twisti] | thank you very much | 09:33 |
| ducasse | vadi: just see if there are any keys there at all, there should be one microsoft key and possibly one by canonical | 09:33 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: you ubuntu server L will also start functioning as a router | 09:33 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: so you need to make sure you have sysctl: net.ipv4.conf.all.forwarding = 1 | 09:34 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: good luck, I hope this works since I'm doing it from the top of my head. There may be more thinsg required. If you got a strict firewall, you may also need to allow this natted traffic (iptables -I FORWARD -s <IP_OF_W> -d <IP_OF_F> -j ACCEPT) | 09:36 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: please note I'm not being really strict in my rules and adapt to your situation please :) | 09:37 |
| TvL2386 | this should help you get started :) | 09:37 |
| [twisti] | it definitely will. i cant test it right now, but ive written it down and will read up a bit to make sure i understand the basics | 09:39 |
| lotus|NUC | +1 TvL2386 | 09:39 |
| nerb | I have a virtual server running 18.04.1. I want to install python3-venv, but get the following message: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 09:45 |
| nerb | python3-venv : Depends: python3 (= 3.6.5-3) but 3.6.5-3ubuntu1 is to be installed | 09:45 |
| nerb | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 09:45 |
| nerb | " What are my options to get python3-venv installed? | 09:45 |
| lotus|NUC | nerb: did you add external ppa's to your system? | 09:48 |
| TvL2386 | hmmzzz.... internet died... | 09:50 |
| TvL2386 | [twisti]: sorry :) | 09:50 |
| lotus|NUC | TvL2386: you didnt miss anything | 09:50 |
| nerb | no i havent lotus | 09:50 |
| lotus|NUC | nerb: can you hastebin us: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please? | 09:51 |
| TvL2386 | ack thx | 09:52 |
| vadi | ducasse: I don't know what are they called, so I don't know what is a microsoft key and what is a canonical key | 09:54 |
| ducasse | vadi: they would be listed with those names, at least they usually are | 09:55 |
| nerb | https://pastebin.com/1JKdvRqb | 09:55 |
| vadi | hm, okay. | 09:55 |
| nerb | and this is the full error from apt when i try to install it: https://pastebin.com/q2LpEKwU | 09:57 |
| TJ- | What's the usual/recommended VNC server package? I don't see any in the 'main' component | 09:58 |
| lotus|NUC | TJ-: vino? | 09:59 |
| lotus|NUC | nerb: try to purge python3, then sudo apt autoremove, then install python 3.6 | 10:00 |
| lotus|NUC | !vnc | TJ- | 10:01 |
| ubottu | TJ-: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 10:01 |
| nerb | ok I've been hoping to avoid that, but I'll give it a whirl, thanks lotus | 10:02 |
| lotus|NUC | nerb: why's that, did you install python3 manually or so for a reason? | 10:03 |
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| nerb | just don't want to break anything; got handed this server under the condition of not requiring IT support; all good though | 10:08 |
| lotus|NUC | nerb: Python 3 has been updated to 3.6, from the 18.04 releasenotes | 10:10 |
| TJ- | nerb: what does this report? "pastebinit <( apt-cache policy python3-venv python3)" ? | 10:13 |
| Lavinho | good morning | 10:17 |
| Lavinho | mymaga class max | 10:17 |
| Lavinho | no wifi and no sound | 10:17 |
| Lavinho | help me please | 10:17 |
| Lavinho | mymaga classs max | 10:17 |
| lotus|NUC | Lavinho: ubuntu version? chipset? driver version? | 10:18 |
| Lavinho | ubuntu 18.04 | 10:18 |
| Lavinho | no drivers available | 10:18 |
| Lavinho | alsamixer locks channels sound | 10:18 |
| lotus|NUC | Lavinho: hastebin: sudo lshw -C network && sudo lshw -C sound | 10:18 |
| Lavinho | I do not have the pc with me | 10:20 |
| nerb | TJ- https://pastebin.com/mwC99JPV | 10:22 |
| lotus|NUC | Lavinho: please come back when you are on the computer so we can help you a better way | 10:24 |
| TJ- | nerb: right, it looks like your PC's local idea of what packages are available has got out-of-date for python3-venv. Compare yours to my output of the same command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z9B48hkqJb/ | 10:24 |
| Lavinho | opk thank's | 10:25 |
| TJ- | nerb: you'll notice on mine "python3-venv" 3.6.5-3ubuntu1 is avaible from bionic-updates/universe | 10:26 |
| nerb | ahhh... bear with me a sec... | 10:26 |
| TJ- | nerb: try "sudo apt update" and then "apt-cache policy python3-venv" again - in theory that should ensure the local PC's list of packages is correct | 10:26 |
| nerb | Well I feel like a bit of a tool. ...had to add universe to bionic updates, that's why it wasn't picking up the right version. Thanks very much TJ-, I wouldn't have solved it without your input. Cheers. | 10:29 |
| TJ- | nerb: I love the easy solutions :) | 10:30 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 10:50 |
| neure | hi | 11:11 |
| neure | Any reasons why I cannot switch to VT with keyboard? Ubuntu 18.04, intel graphics driver | 11:12 |
| neure | is VT switching no longer enabled by default, or has that something to do with session manager or .. something ? | 11:12 |
| BluesKaj | ctrl+alt +F2-F6 no longer works? | 11:13 |
| neure | yes, that is the issue | 11:14 |
| JimBuntu | F1 and F7 have swapped, but I think the others should still be working in 18.04.x | 11:14 |
| BluesKaj | caps lock perhaps? | 11:14 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 11:14 |
| neure | I am not at that machine right now so I cannot test :( | 11:15 |
| TJ- | neure: does it switch, but to a black screen, or not leave the GUI at all? if the latter, I'd suspect something has remapped the keys | 11:16 |
| neure | latter | 11:16 |
| BluesKaj | yes, the others should work, i can't think of why not...never heard of that issue before | 11:16 |
| neure | but what would remap the keys? | 11:16 |
| JimBuntu | neure, Is it on a laptop... could the function key be required? | 11:17 |
| TJ- | neure: it's the obvious cause. Maybe try creating a new user account and logging in to that. See if the problem exists there or not. That'll tell you if it is a per-user or system-wide issue | 11:17 |
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| neure | Not a laptop | 11:18 |
| neure | wired logitech g pro keyboard | 11:18 |
| deadrom | greetings | 11:36 |
| EriC^^ | hello | 11:37 |
| deadrom | 18.04 LTS server, cloned VM, manually altered /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml. after reboot old IP from clone master is up again. wrong file? wrong place? wrong format? | 11:37 |
| TJ- | deadrom: has the 50-cloud-init.yaml got the 'new' (not used) IP address in it? That file hasn't been replaced by one matching the master's ? | 11:42 |
| deadrom | TJ-: it's been swiutched from static to dhcp. funny thin is when I run netplan apply it complains about the line ens32: saying: | 11:51 |
| deadrom | "Invalid YAML at //etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml line 10 column 0: found character that cannot start any token" | 11:52 |
| TJ- | deadrom: has it been edited on a non-linux system, and got CRLF line-endings ? | 11:52 |
| TJ- | deadrom: pastebin the file so we can check the basics | 11:53 |
| ioria | or maybe a tabulation instaed of spaces | 11:53 |
| deadrom | tabulations quite a few. baaad? | 11:54 |
| deadrom | http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PgZNXZKFk2/ | 11:54 |
| TJ- | ioria: is YAML sensitive to that? sounds like another python - invisible whitespace is syntax! | 11:54 |
| ioria | TJ-, i remember so | 11:54 |
| deadrom | augh, seriously? pythin indention will be the downfall of mankind | 11:55 |
| deadrom | augh, seriously? pythin indention will be the downfall of mankind# | 11:55 |
| * TJ- shoots the programmers! | 11:55 | |
| TJ- | deadrom: try "hexdump -c /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml" see if there's 09 tab codes in there | 11:56 |
| TJ- | deadrom: also, 0d0a CRLFs | 11:56 |
| TJ- | deadrom: oops, "-c" should be "-C" | 11:56 |
| deadrom | TJ-: found it. had one tab in it. replaces with space indention, netplan apply goes through... | 11:56 |
| TJ- | deadrom: Grrrr! I'm sacking YAML from my systems! | 11:57 |
| Galactor | Hello! I want to know how to reinstall a program via terminal. How do I go about that? | 11:59 |
| deadrom | whow... all new in 18.04, how do I restart netowrking? | 11:59 |
| EriC^^ | Galactor: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> | 12:00 |
| JimBuntu | sudo apt-get install --reinstall ... oh nevermind, EriC^^ beat me | 12:00 |
| EriC^^ | deadrom: sudo service networking restart or network-manager restart | 12:00 |
| Galactor | hey thats super simple aha. Thanks guys! | 12:00 |
| EriC^^ | *sudo service network-manager restart | 12:01 |
| deadrom | Failed to restart networking.service: Unit networking.service not found. | 12:02 |
| deadrom | 18.04 default nm = systemd? | 12:02 |
| ioria | deadrom, in your case, try sudo systemctl restart systemd-networkd | 12:03 |
| deadrom | ioria: did it, thanks | 12:04 |
| ioria | ok | 12:04 |
| deadrom | hm, cloned VM. old lease. could be MAC | 12:10 |
| deadrom | ok, I don't get it: ifconfig -a says I'm on IP 10.153.81.77 but syslog says dhclient[1734]: DHCPOFFER of 10.153.81.129 from 10.153.81.1 | 12:18 |
| deadrom | and it accepted that, so so why is the interface not on .129 | 12:18 |
| albech | Still no way to overwrite the DNS when connecting to an OpenVPN server? I have tried to overwrite the DNS settings in the connection profile, but with the new way resolving works it simply ignores this :( In 16.04 I could fix this by disabling dnsmasq. | 12:23 |
| TJ- | albech: openvpn has a resolvconf script to do it, see /etc/openvpn/update-resolv-conf | 12:27 |
| Magissia | Hello, getting "make[3]: *** [scripts/mod/empty.o] Error 127" when trying to compile kernel following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild using ubuntu-cosmic git repo | 12:27 |
| TJ- | Magissia: have you installed build-essential packages? | 12:31 |
| Magissia | TJ-: Yes | 12:34 |
| Magissia | TJ-: "sudo apt install build-essential" says there's nothing to do. (0 updated, 0 installed) | 12:34 |
| Magissia | TJ-: Since I followed the guide, i did "sudo apt-get install git build-essential kernel-package fakeroot libncurses5-dev libssl-dev ccache" before trying to make | 12:35 |
| deadrom | "date" gives me UTC, shouldn't. what to do about it? | 12:38 |
| |subz3r0| | hi | 12:42 |
| |subz3r0| | any idea why I should reboot my desktop system even if LivePatching is enabled? This makes this feature absolutely useless when its not doing its work to upgrade kernels in live mode | 12:43 |
| sentiment | hello. How this version is read? 1:7.0+35ubuntu6.1 | 12:46 |
| sentiment | I don't understand the colon | 12:46 |
| sentiment | is the package version 7.0? | 12:46 |
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| TJ- | Magissia: I suspect you've not installed some other dependency, but without seeing the exact 'make' log leading up to the error it's difficult to guess. try "make |& tee /tmp/build.log" then when it fails "pastebinit /tmp/build.log" | 12:50 |
| Magissia | TJ-: http://termbin.com/eaazw | 12:59 |
| Magissia | Error is different depending on kernel version I try to build, but there's always ubuntu-reptoline script error before | 12:59 |
| TJ- | Magissia: are you cross-compiling? I see that HOSTCC is fine, but CC fails | 13:01 |
| Lavinho | good afternoon | 13:02 |
| Lavinho | mayaga no wireless card and no sound | 13:02 |
| Magissia | TJ-: I'm building from x86_64 for x86_64 | 13:03 |
| Lavinho | alsamixer detect sound card but no sound | 13:03 |
| Magissia | TJ-: using march=native | 13:03 |
| Lavinho | help me please | 13:04 |
| === Richard is now known as Guest59033 | ||
| hateball | Lavinho: for the wireless, have you checked in Additional Drivers if you need to install some firmware to make it work? | 13:05 |
| Magissia | TJ-: KCFLAGS="-march=native -mtune=native -O2 -pipe" KCCPFLAGS="-march=native -mtune=native -O2 -pipe" make-kpkg -j 2 --initrd --rootcmd=fakeroot --append-to-version=-archphenix --revision=3.0 kernel_image kernel_headers modules_image | 13:05 |
| Lavinho | i have checked adition drivers but no drivers available | 13:05 |
| TJ- | Magissia: try without "-march=native" | 13:11 |
| antranigv | hey all, I'm trying to setup Ubuntu for my friend, everything works like a charm in recovery mode (After doing resume in the rescue menu) but when doing normal boot it hangs after GDM tries to run Gnome. I'm assuming GPU kernel module issue. anyone has any suggestions? | 13:11 |
| Magissia | TJ-: removing both mtune and march doesn't change the result (albeit seeing the error quicker) | 13:14 |
| TJ- | Magissia: OK, that's at least ruled out some weird gcc problem | 13:14 |
| jonux | antranigv: Probably way off here, but, have you tried logging in to another account from gdm (to rule out error in user config)? Never mind. Guess this is a comptletely new and untouched install. | 13:15 |
| Magissia | TJ-: which cc gives /usr/bin/cc, dkpg-query -S /usr/bin/cc says there's no package associated to the file | 13:16 |
| Magissia | TJ-: I do not have any other cc binaries in $PATH | 13:16 |
| Magissia | TJ-: Don't know which package is supposed to install that, but I can reinstall if found | 13:16 |
| Magissia | If that's build-essential, I already reinstalled it | 13:17 |
| === Class7_ is now known as Class7 | ||
| TJ- | Magissia: that's a symlink; use "update-alternatives --display cc" | 13:21 |
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| Magissia | reinstalled gcc package, still same error | 13:22 |
| TJ- | Magissia: notice "Failed to create a ./debian directory: at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 970." | 13:23 |
| TJ- | Magissia: has the system run out of free space/inodes on /home/ ? "df -h; df -i" | 13:24 |
| Magissia | TJ-: http://termbin.com/zt9z | 13:26 |
| Magissia | and debian directory already exist as it exist on git | 13:26 |
| Magissia | "-%" are 94% | 13:27 |
| Magissia | (effective 13,6Gb) | 13:27 |
| Magissia | TJ-: http://termbin.com/h7ue | 13:29 |
| TJ- | Magissia: is the /home/ file-system not ext? It looks like it might be something like FAT since it doesn't report inodes | 13:30 |
| Magissia | TJ-: It's BTRFS | 13:30 |
| === gr33n7007h is now known as al2o3-cr | ||
| TJ- | Magissia: hmmm, well, the lack of inodes count looks odd! I've not messed with BTRFS though so not sure what's going on, but it does look like an FS issue if the ./debian directory fails to be created | 13:31 |
| Magissia | TJ-: If I do a mkdir myself it works | 13:31 |
| Magissia | TJ-: And the directory debian already exist | 13:32 |
| TJ- | Magissia: but where is it trying to create it, the debian build scripts usually create a build directory under <kernel-base-dir>/debian/ | 13:34 |
| TJ- | Magissia: have you done a "fakeroot debian/rules clean" and then retried with "fakeroot debian/rules build" ? | 13:34 |
| bunnyapocalypse | Are there any mirrors still up that I could use to dist-upgrade from my 17.04 install? | 13:34 |
| bunnyapocalypse | Or am I just stranded here now because I was lazy | 13:35 |
| Magissia | TJ-: As i'm using make-kpkg, I did not try these commands, i did run make clean itself tho | 13:35 |
| Magissia | Second part throws error : /usr/bin/fakeroot: 175: /usr/bin/fakeroot: debian/rules: not found | 13:38 |
| pzn | Ubuntu 18.04, how to configure for NOT cleaning /tmp on boot? | 13:39 |
| diddly | hi i'm trying to install on a machine w/o optical. unfortunately the only stick I have doesn't fit the 18.04 iso, but can boot systemrescuecd. Is it feasible to download the ISO, and install within live systemrescuecd? | 13:45 |
| EriC^^ | diddly: did you try the mini iso? | 13:46 |
| EriC^^ | it doesnt support uefi though | 13:46 |
| diddly | EriC^^: wasn't aware, but UEFI would be required on this machine i think | 13:46 |
| diddly | i have other machines on network, is tftpboot an option? | 13:47 |
| TJ- | Magissia: ahhh, so you're not using the standard Ubuntu build method. OK, that makes more sense | 13:57 |
| Magissia | TJ-: I copied "ubuntu-retpoline-extract-one" from "/usr/src/linux-headers-4.15.0-34/scripts" to "./scripts" and it compile... now... why doesn't the file exist in ubuntu's git ? | 13:57 |
| Magissia | TJ-: Using make-kpkg is not standard ? | 13:57 |
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| lotus|NUC | !eolupgrade | bunnyapocalypse | 14:03 |
| ubottu | bunnyapocalypse: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 14:03 |
| Magissia | TJ-: Is the "standard method" somehow creating this retpoline file at some point ? | 14:03 |
| TJ- | Magissia: that and others are copied in from the debian/rules Makefile - see for example line 133 of that file | 14:04 |
| TJ- | Magissia: I've not needed to do a git build of an Ubuntu kernel in a while; check with the guys in #ubuntu-kernel for the precise workflow when building from git | 14:04 |
| Magissia | TJ-: I'm doing it to remove modules and have the march=native because my computer sucks and it works better that way, sadly | 14:06 |
| === jakcyyy is now known as Dreaman | ||
| Magissia | TJ-: Thanks for all anyway | 14:07 |
| ilias_gr | hi all. could you please advise me which distro is recommended for an intel duo core processor desktop pc with only 2 gb ram. 32 bit or 64 bit. Now i am running 16.04.5 32 bit xubuntu and i am considering to clean install 18.04.1 xubuntu. Is it recommended to install 64 bit or will I have ram problems instead of 32 bit version which maybe will have a better ram management on this old pc? | 14:28 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: if your hardware is capable of 64bit, install 64bit | 14:29 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: the flavor is the users choice really, lightweight can be lubuntu/xubuntu/mate | 14:29 |
| ilias_gr | actually it is capable for 64 bit version | 14:29 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: ubuntu 18.04 has also a minimal option in the setup, for saving space | 14:30 |
| ntd | but the install media no longer fits on a cd-r? | 14:30 |
| ntd | ironic | 14:30 |
| lotus|NUC | ntd: usb to the rescue | 14:31 |
| ilias_gr | my worry isn't the hd space( I have 250 gb hd available). it is ram only and i cannot upgrade it to 4gb because 2gb is the max for my motermoard | 14:31 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: i ran ubuntu-desktop fine on 2gig ram also..so you can choose alot of flavors | 14:32 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: we usually advice to test your hardware from a liveusb first, if you like it==>physical install | 14:33 |
| ilias_gr | Xubuntu is familiar to me. I run it at least since 14.04 | 14:33 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: sure thing, xubuntu 64bit try it out | 14:34 |
| ilias_gr | but i have already installed i18.04.1 on my other pc with 4gb on it and i realized that in idle need the double memory than 16.04.5 | 14:35 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: ubuntu-desktop 18.04 is indeed slower then on 16.04 unity | 14:35 |
| ilias_gr | so i am wondering if 32 bit has a better ram management because it is designed for old pc's. I am not sure if this is right indeed. | 14:36 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: but you can do alot of tweaks to speed things up | 14:36 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: if your cpu is capable of 64bit, use 64bit, then 32bit is a dying support | 14:37 |
| ilias_gr | the desktop pc is old enough. It came with win vista on it. | 14:37 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: for your case, i would go personally lubuntu or xubuntu 64bit | 14:37 |
| ilias_gr | cpu is 64 bit capable actually . I checked through terminal | 14:38 |
| ilias_gr | i prefer xfce environment | 14:39 |
| ducasse | ilias_gr: a 32-bit install will actually use less memory, but not very much. it may or may not be noticeable. | 14:39 |
| ilias_gr | ducasse: oh ok. that is what i doubt about. | 14:39 |
| ilias_gr | so 64 bit is the only way. | 14:40 |
| ducasse | ilias_gr: another thing to consider is that certain applications are now only available as 64-bit, like chrome | 14:40 |
| ilias_gr | but why uses double ram memory in comparison with 16.04.5 . That is a problem for users with old pc's | 14:41 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: if your talking about gnome3, it eats more resources then unity | 14:41 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: users with older pc's==> lubuntu & xubuntu & mate | 14:42 |
| ilias_gr | 270 for 16.04 , the double for 18.04 in idle position, i mean just after boot, and with the same apps on startup choice | 14:42 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: you cant compare ubuntu versions with each other, years of differences | 14:43 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: technology evolving and more demanding | 14:43 |
| hateball | lotus|NUC: actually... Lubuntu is not targeting older hardware any longer https://lubuntu.me/taking-a-new-direction/ | 14:43 |
| ilias_gr | i understand. Just wondering. | 14:43 |
| hateball | That said, it should probably work. It's just not the main focus. | 14:44 |
| lotus|NUC | hateball: yeah ive readed that part, still tested a lubuntu 18.04 minimal, still works on alot of old specs | 14:44 |
| ilias_gr | so it is maybe time to consider to upgrade the hardware | 14:44 |
| hateball | lotus|NUC: I'm just saying it's a change from a "should work" to "might work" :D | 14:45 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: if your system still works..use it | 14:45 |
| hateball | ilias_gr: 2GB ram is a bit little by todays standards, visit a modern website with a modern browser and it's all used up | 14:45 |
| ilias_gr | it's really a very stable usable system under 16.04.5 . But the time counts down | 14:46 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: few years | 14:46 |
| ilias_gr | April 2019 is only 8 months ahead | 14:46 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: april 2021 it is | 14:47 |
| ilias_gr | is it any chance for 16.04.5 to be supported after April 2019? | 14:48 |
| ilias_gr | I running xubuntu distro | 14:48 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: read what i just said | 14:48 |
| ilias_gr | End of support apr 2019 isn't it? | 14:48 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: read what i just said | 14:49 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: 14.04 is eol on 2019 | 14:49 |
| deadrom | the main repos is maintained 5yrs. does not go for universe/multiverse necessarily. | 14:50 |
| deadrom | there is a script flfoating around which will tell you which packages on your installation are maintained yet and which are not anymore | 14:51 |
| ilias_gr | https://xubuntu.org/release/16-04/ | 14:51 |
| lotus|NUC | !lts | ilias_gr | 14:51 |
| ubottu | ilias_gr: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. | 14:52 |
| ilias_gr | End of Life April 21, 2019 | 14:52 |
| ilias_gr | https://askubuntu.com/questions/967169/why-does-kubuntu-and-xubuntu-16-04-lts-support-end-sooner-than-the-official-ubun | 14:54 |
| ilias_gr | what does exactly mean? | 14:55 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: don't worry too much, when one version goes end of life, your system asks to upgrade to the next | 14:55 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: in that matter choosing an LTS version is mostly a good idea | 14:56 |
| ilias_gr | that;s good news. | 14:56 |
| ilias_gr | even if i have not choose 'notify me of a new Ubuntu version' under Updates/Software&Updates | 14:58 |
| ilias_gr | ? | 14:58 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: its the user's end responsability to keep his system up to date | 14:58 |
| ilias_gr | sure it is | 14:58 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: if you choose no LTS upgrade warnings, you need to maintain yourself | 14:59 |
| ilias_gr | is in't a difference between of an available LTS and a life end of an older one? | 15:00 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: not sure i understand that question | 15:01 |
| ilias_gr | i mean that will the system automatically remind that an LTS ends its life and prompts for an upgrade or it just notifies about the option of an upgrade to the new available LTS ? | 15:03 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: the system does not warn when its going end of life, instead it will report there's a new version available | 15:04 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: when you get an upgrade window, its time to move up | 15:04 |
| Vic2 | I am not sure that I can properly articulate myself atm ... I am running 16.04 LTS and I have an application that is being opened multiple times and each time it creates a separate icon ... I want to 'stack' those icons so that they take up just one space. I ran xprop WM_CLASS and got the result ... I know that I need to update a .desktop file ... question is which one? in ~/.local/share/applications there is a desktop file for my application but when I try to | 15:05 |
| Vic2 | open it I get the error Untrusted Application Launcher ... any ideas? | 15:05 |
| ilias_gr | ok, that is what i understood too | 15:05 |
| ilias_gr | between xubuntu and mate which is lighest on your opinion? | 15:07 |
| ilias_gr | light=less ram use | 15:07 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: in theory xubuntu is lighter, but that depends how the user has tweaked his system | 15:07 |
| ilias_gr | ok. thanks. | 15:08 |
| lotus|NUC | ilias_gr: how about you actually try one now, think your options are wide now right? | 15:08 |
| ilias_gr | yes but still i am not sure what i will do with the desktop with only 2 gb on it. | 15:09 |
| === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk | ||
| ilias_gr | i am consindering about lubuntu too, but i am not sure if i could setup my display adapter | 15:10 |
| ilias_gr | what will happen with sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade commands if distro's life ends? | 15:12 |
| === Richard is now known as Guest97380 | ||
| Magissia | Hello, when I open a docx document with LibreOffice, I have an AppArmor notification telling me it prevented libreoffice from reading my firefox keychain | 15:16 |
| Magissia | Why would LibreOffice do that ? | 15:16 |
| Magissia | Sep 11 17:17:15 Marshmallow kernel: [14058.541653] audit: type=1400 audit(1536679035.349:55): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="libreoffice-soffice" name="/home/Trololo/.mozilla/firefox/mwad0hks.default/key3.db" pid=19330 comm="soffice.bin" requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000 | 15:18 |
| mauroc | Good evening, I have a problem when i try to connect on my server with ssh. This is the error: shell request failed on channel 0 | 15:30 |
| mauroc | How i can solve? | 15:30 |
| mauroc | How can I solve? | 15:30 |
| skinux | Anyone know if there is a current tool for building a custom Ubuntu ISO? There used to be one that ran on Windows for doing that. | 15:31 |
| leftyfb | mauroc: what version of ubuntu is the server and client running? | 15:33 |
| lotus|NUC | !info uck | skinux | 15:34 |
| ubottu | skinux: uck (source: uck): Tool to customize official Ubuntu Live CDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.7-0ubuntu2 (bionic), package size 145 kB, installed size 384 kB | 15:34 |
| leftyfb | mauroc: you're not going to get help here now since you cross-posted and are being helped elsewhere | 15:35 |
| mauroc | leftyfb: the client is ubuntu 18.04. The server i don't know. But the server works well, i can connect from other client | 15:35 |
| leftyfb | mauroc: you're being helped elsewhere | 15:35 |
| mauroc | leftyfb: i didn't received help.. just an hint, but didn't works | 15:36 |
| Vic2 | there is an elsewhere? Maybe they know a solution to my problem... | 15:36 |
| leftyfb | mauroc: What do the logs say on the server? | 15:37 |
| lotus|NUC | Vic2: ? | 15:37 |
| JimBuntu | Vic2, ##linux | 15:37 |
| mauroc | leftyfb: i can't see the log.. i can't connect | 15:37 |
| Vic2 | I am not sure that I can properly articulate myself atm ... I am running 16.04 LTS and I have an application that is being opened multiple times and each time it creates a separate icon ... I want to 'stack' those icons so that they take up just one space. I ran xprop WM_CLASS and got the result ... I know that I need to update a .desktop file ... question is which one? in ~/.local/share/applications there is a desktop file for my application but when I try to | 15:37 |
| Vic2 | open it I get the error Untrusted Application Launcher ... any ideas? | 15:37 |
| mauroc | and i don't have now another client to connect | 15:37 |
| leftyfb | mauroc: try putty as your client on ubuntu | 15:38 |
| mauroc | leftyfb: ok, i will try | 15:38 |
| Vic2 | ok, so a generic linux channel ... thanks for that headsup. | 15:38 |
| lotus|NUC | Vic2: patience is a good deed, how about you give us more details like..wich packagename? | 15:38 |
| lotus|NUC | Vic2: 'an application' we cant do much with that | 15:38 |
| Vic2 | it is a standalone flash player being ran under Wine | 15:39 |
| leftyfb | Vic2: sounds like a wine issue | 15:39 |
| Vic2 | no issue running ... runs fine on 14.04 ... still a Wine issue? | 15:40 |
| leftyfb | Vic2: does it happen if you do the same with other non-wine applications? | 15:41 |
| Vic2 | on 14.04 the icon shows wine windows program loader ... on 16.04 it shows Adobe Flash Player 11 | 15:42 |
| Vic2 | Honestly, I have not tried any other app. | 15:42 |
| leftyfb | Vic2: On 18.04, does it happen if you do the same with other non-wine applications? | 15:42 |
| leftyfb | Vic2: try it | 15:42 |
| leftyfb | or 16.04 | 15:42 |
| Vic2 | 16.04 ... and I will try now | 15:42 |
| mauroc | leftyfb: putty didnt'works.. | 15:43 |
| leftyfb | mauroc: ok, so it doesn't sound like a client issue but a server or auth issue. Both require you to get the logs from the server | 15:43 |
| mauroc | ok, i try to contact the support | 15:44 |
| mauroc | tnx | 15:44 |
| Vic2 | libre office and the file manager work fine ... they all 'stack' on one icon. | 15:44 |
| leftyfb | Vic2: then it's a wine issue | 15:45 |
| leftyfb | Vic2: try #winehq | 15:46 |
| Vic2 | Ok thanks ... do you know the room name ... ty! | 15:46 |
| Magissia | skinux: Unpacking the iso, chrooting and repacking won't do the trick ? | 15:52 |
| === davor_ is now known as davor | ||
| retrojeff | I have a question regarding uid=99(nobody) can I allow it to read a file inside of /home/user/foo/bar ? | 16:20 |
| MarkB2 | I have an application that, under normal use, spits out quite a bit of information that I don't need to keep. When I start this application from a desktop icon, that output is routed to /var/log/syslog . This tends to create megabyte syslog files. How can I route that output to /dev/null ? | 16:20 |
| retrojeff | nevermind I solved my issue | 16:26 |
| JimBuntu | MarkB2, maybe redirect via 2>&1 ? | 16:39 |
| MarkB2 | JimBuntu: I did put that into the Exec= line in the Desktop/Program.desktop. It wasn't re-routed. | 16:45 |
| === capella is now known as capella|away | ||
| MarkB2 | I was thinking of writing a fork()/exec() with stdout and stderr routed to /dev/null.. but thought maybe Gnome would have a better way. | 16:46 |
| JimBuntu | Oh, interesting. I figure desktop files may require different use... possibly the output isn't 'standard output' | 16:46 |
| JimBuntu | MarkB2, https://askubuntu.com/questions/873799/how-to-redirect-stdout-and-stderr-in-desktop-entry | 16:47 |
| === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL | ||
| leonardus | software for viewing ppt? | 17:05 |
| tomreyn | libreoffice impress | 17:06 |
| MarkB2 | JimBuntu: Just returned to the keyboard. Thank you! I'll take a look. | 17:11 |
| MarkB2 | JimBuntu: !! Looks like the Ticket!! Great catch, great call. Thanks! | 17:12 |
| JimBuntu | MarkB2, You are welcome, glad to be of some help. | 17:12 |
| === kevr is now known as nvidia | ||
| === nvidia is now known as nvidia- | ||
| pragmaticenigma | JimBuntu: In response to MarkB2 eariler... some programs may send output to Terminal when launched from termianl, and syslog when launched from gui. it would be an application specific option that would be in the documentation of the application. | 17:27 |
| === katamo|away is now known as katamo | ||
| metabsd | Hi, I want to know if Ubuntu really use /etc/bashrc file. Thank you! | 17:53 |
| pragmaticenigma | metabsd: Can you be more specific? | 17:53 |
| markpie | Could please anyone give me an advice where to change the font-size in latest ubu 18.04 kernel? After the reboot I've lost my console text size setting. | 17:54 |
| metabsd | If i create a file named /etc/bashrc and add couple env variable. Those variable will be set to all user using bash ? If those user don't overwrite them. Thx! | 17:54 |
| compdoc | markpie, it boots to a text only console? | 17:55 |
| markpie | compdoc> It boots to multi-user init level. And it's intended behavior. | 17:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | metabsd: I don't believe /etc/bashrc is used by Ubuntu | 17:56 |
| pragmaticenigma | metabsd: /etc/bashrc is not used in Ubuntu... see "man bash" under the section FILES for more information | 17:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | metabsd: The current setup in Debian/Ubuntu is that /etc/bash.bashrc is read before ~/.bashrc ... which means a user can override settings in /etc/bash.bashrc | 18:01 |
| metabsd | ok thx! | 18:01 |
| markpie | Sorry about that. False alert. TTY1 booted into small font size. TTY2, TTY3, TTY4 unaffected. TTY5, TT6 in small font-size. This is weird. | 18:05 |
| andai | when i mount an ext4 partition, the owner of the directory where it's mounted is root (the other directories in /media/andai are owned by andai) and i can't write to it (it's mounted as rw though) | 18:23 |
| bahamat | I'm using ubuntu 16.04.3 with cloud-init 17.1-46-g7acc. I can't get the users section to work. | 18:27 |
| bahamat | The only thing I can get to work is user-script | 18:27 |
| bahamat | Am I doing something wrong or is this version broken? | 18:28 |
| pragmaticenigma | bahamat: If you are running 16.04.3 you have a large number of updates waiting to be installed... it's possible one of them is a fix for that issue | 18:28 |
| Edisto | how do you reinstall a kernel? in particular after installing amdgpu-pro 18.3 i can't boot into kernel 4.15.0-34 but 33 works fine. | 18:28 |
| ftmh17 | howdy | 18:40 |
| bahamat | pragmaticenigma: I updated cloud-init, but it's still not working like I expect. | 18:41 |
| coz_ | ftmh17, hey guy | 18:41 |
| bahamat | The file /var/lib/cloud/instance/user-data.txt *is* populated, but the defined user isn't created. | 18:41 |
| Furai | Hey, so for some reason night light doesn't sunset to sunrise settings. It's like the data for that never get pulled. Is there a way to debug it? | 18:46 |
| Scytale89 | Furai, have you checked privacy settings to allow access on geolocation? | 18:46 |
| Furai | Scytale89, let me see. | 18:47 |
| leftyfb | night light? | 18:48 |
| Furai | The built-in f.lux/redshift. | 18:48 |
| leftyfb | oh, neat. Didn't know about that. I'm still on 16.04 and run redshift | 18:49 |
| Furai | Is there a way to give that information to night shift without changing that privacy setting? | 18:49 |
| jmgb4 | Hey fellas, I am on ubuntu 18.04 and something is up. I rebooted my machine and I get a couple of errors thats preventing me from booting. I can boot in safemode right now just fine. Curious where I can look to try and figure out whats causing the normal boot to error | 18:51 |
| Furai | Boot loop? | 18:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | jmgb4: first place to look is the last thing you did before having this issue | 18:52 |
| Furai | Nvidia drivers? | 18:52 |
| jmgb4 | pragmaticenigma, upgraded the kernel but I switched back and it didnt fix it | 18:52 |
| Furai | If you have recently updated kernel and didn't have dkms module for nvidia drivers you need to reinstall them. | 18:52 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | i'd like to set an environment variable, globally at boot, even for noninteractive shells. but i need to to equal the output of a command. e.g. foobar=$(/usr/bin/something) | 18:52 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | is that even possible? | 18:52 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | /etc/default isn't gonna work, since that only takes simple static assignments. | 18:53 |
| jmgb4 | Furai, Its not an nvidia error, seen those before. | 18:53 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | tried /etc/profile.d/something.sh, but that only applies to interactive shells. | 18:53 |
| Furai | jmgb4, have you looked at /var/log/syslog? Did you try looking at dmesg ? | 18:54 |
| jmgb4 | Furai, dmesg is for hte current boot right? | 18:55 |
| Furai | yeah | 18:55 |
| jmgb4 | Im in safemode or recoverymode, whatever ubuntu calls it right now | 18:56 |
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| jmgb4 | ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed \_SB.WMIV.WVPO, AE_AML_OPERAND_TYPE (20170831/psparse-550) | 18:57 |
| jmgb4 | Thats one error I found | 18:57 |
| pragmaticenigma | NoImNotNineVolt: Might want to check in one of the programming or bash specific channels. | 18:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | jmgb4: The recent kernel patch is supposed to fix an issue with ACPI | 18:58 |
| jmgb4 | pragmaticenigma, Im not even sure if thats the issue though. Im not seeing any other errors | 18:59 |
| jmgb4 | I think the best option right now owuld be to try and roll back the kernel | 19:01 |
| jmgb4 | But wait, selecting the old kernel form the bootloader didnt do anything. So hmm | 19:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | jmgb4: can you successfully boot to one of the older kernels? | 19:02 |
| jmgb4 | pragmaticenigma, No, I just answered my own statement really. Guess I am digging thorugh the systlog more to see whats up | 19:02 |
| jmgb4 | Im not finding any other errors though | 19:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | jmgb4: could disable the GUI boot mode and switch it to terminal to see if anything flashes up on the screen | 19:03 |
| jmgb4 | It wants to drop me into maintenance mode | 19:03 |
| jmgb4 | Is dmesg then the best option? | 19:04 |
| jmgb4 | ..to see whats going on | 19:04 |
| jmgb4 | MODSIGN: Couldn't get UEFI db list. Theres a couple of those errors | 19:05 |
| jmgb4 | Alright I guess so. Ill be back hopefully | 19:07 |
| Natalie | I'm getting a "Aborted (core dumped)" error, but I can't seem to track down what's killing it. | 19:11 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | pragmaticenigma: merely asking that in #bash got me +q'd. | 19:17 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | they feel [strongly] that it's an os question. | 19:17 |
| Natalie | I think it's caused by some resource limit. Is there somewhere in particular I can look to see if something has been killing my process? | 19:17 |
| TJ- | Natalie it'd help to tell us where you're seeing this, and for what process | 19:22 |
| jmgb4 | Alright it looks like its that acpi error and its on both kernels. | 19:22 |
| jmgb4 | I dont even know how I was able to boot back here.. I was about to give up and go to another machine to reinstall. Really dont want to though | 19:23 |
| pragmaticenigma | NoImNotNineVolt: It's not a support question either though. Read !topic ... and ask in #ubuntu-offtopic | 19:23 |
| ioria | jmgb4, if acpi is the problem... easy to test : acpi=off | 19:24 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: The ACPI message you reported earlier shouldn't be critical; it indicates a firmware/BIOS bug | 19:24 |
| Natalie | TJ-, Okay. It's a bit an epic tale. | 19:24 |
| solsTiCe | hi. I want to read smart value for an usb hdd. smartctl wants me to specify the usb brdige type. how do I know thta ? | 19:24 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, thats really the only error I can find. | 19:24 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | pragmaticenigma: in what sense is it not a support question? | 19:24 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: instead of warning/error messages, can you tell us what the symptoms are? I wasn't around if you described them earlier? | 19:25 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, I just updated my machine. Pretty sure the only update was the kernel. I then rebooted and ubuntu wants to force me into maintenance mode now. | 19:25 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, I am looking in the syslog, really nothing interesting or "critical" | 19:26 |
| Natalie | TJ-, I'm running Jenkins, inside of PM2. Jenkins is triggering a build job of a node.js project. The build script runs "bower install" which then promptly dies with "Aborted (cord dumped)". As far as I can tell there is no other relevant logs or errors. | 19:26 |
| Natalie | I've tried rearranging some of the build tasks, and different things seems to unexplicably die. | 19:27 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: OK, have you first tried starting in multi-user mode but without enabling the GUI? | 19:27 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, if I go down again I dont think its going to come back up | 19:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | NoImNotNineVolt: "man bash" has the answer you seek. check in the "FILES" section | 19:28 |
| jmgb4 | MODSIGN: Couldn't get UEFI dbx list is the only other error I can find currently. | 19:28 |
| ioria | jmgb4, i got that too; not your issue | 19:28 |
| TJ- | Natalie: sounds like an Out Of Memory (OOM) issue - possibly due to virtual memory being over-committed by default. does the kernel log report the OOM killer pruning processes? | 19:29 |
| jmgb4 | I am clueless then. This log doesnt have what killed my boot then | 19:29 |
| ioria | jmgb4, boot in recovery mode and check 'df h' | 19:30 |
| Natalie | TJ-, I've been digging through all the logs and I haven't found any mention of OOM. I tried everything in /var/logs, and dmesg. Is there somewhere else I could check? | 19:30 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: try without the GUI, temporarily change to TTTY-only with "systemctl set-default multi-user.target" then reboot. If it still fails you've reduced the problem area considerably. To restore the current setting "systemctl set-default graphical.target" | 19:30 |
| ioria | jmgb4, df -h | 19:30 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, check hd space? | 19:30 |
| ioria | yep | 19:30 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, Im not full.. | 19:30 |
| Natalie | Also, would there be some setting somewhere that disables the OOM messages? I'm not sure where to check for that. | 19:30 |
| ioria | jmgb4, df -i | 19:30 |
| TJ- | Natalie: those would be usualy places. Have you looked for a core dump you can examine in /var/crash/ ? | 19:31 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, I dont get what you are getting at | 19:31 |
| Natalie | I'll check | 19:31 |
| ioria | jmgb4, just run it | 19:31 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, if I go down, I probably wont come up. ubuntu doesnt even get through the entire boot process. It seems to want to fsck but then craps out | 19:31 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, at boot or now | 19:32 |
| ioria | jmgb4, do you have a shell ? | 19:32 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: well there's a BIG clue! | 19:32 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, yes.. | 19:32 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, oh is it? | 19:33 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: are you on the affected PC now? | 19:33 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, yeah | 19:33 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: and did it have problems during this boot too? | 19:33 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, Yes. It wont boot normally unless I go into backup mode or recovery mode or whatever its called in grub. I just cant remember what ubuntu refers to it as | 19:35 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: I've seen instances where the rootfs is damaged, fsck fails (underlying disk starting to fail), rootfs is mounted read-only, and so many boot tasks cannot complete due to being unable to write to disk | 19:35 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: can you show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -xb)" | 19:35 |
| Natalie | TJ-, Well, I've found one file in /var/crash from 3 ago that might be related. Not really sure what info I can get from it. | 19:36 |
| TJ- | Natalie: usually the name and timestamp gives a clue as to whether it is relevant. if you think it us there are toools to examine it | 19:36 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FMZsGFVVfY/ | 19:37 |
| Natalie | It's datestamped to the time of my first failed build. So I think it's from that. | 19:37 |
| Natalie | But I would have expected more recent dumps? I'm not sure if something is preventing them from being created. | 19:37 |
| TJ- | Natalie: this link will give you an intro into how we can locally examine a crash dump: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 19:39 |
| ioria | jmgb4, old kernel with nomodeset ? why ? | 19:39 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, Dont remember the exact error but it stopped dmesg from being spammed | 19:40 |
| TJ- | Natalie: Natalie the crash file itself is, if I recall correctly, a text file, with binary data base64 encoded, so you can read some of it with a text viewer/editor. I don't have a crash file currently to check, though | 19:40 |
| Natalie | So, this isn't my program, so I'm not really sure how much useful information I can gather from debugging it? I don't have the source, and even if I did, I can't see how it would be useful. | 19:41 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, I dont see anything thats screaming "this is why I cant boot" | 19:41 |
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| ioria | jmgb4, i'd start running fsck from the recovery menu | 19:43 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, Do you see anything? | 19:47 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, Thats my next step | 19:48 |
| jmgb4 | ioria, Trying to remember how I can do it before everything gets mounted | 19:49 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: I've got to line 3000 without finding anything critical; but I need to go eat dinner. Maybe someone else can carry on from there - not sure how long I'll be | 19:49 |
| madLyfe | it doesn't look like chrome removes it's software source when I removed it via terminal | 19:50 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, I made it to like 4k and nothing | 19:50 |
| madLyfe | is that normal? what else did it leave behind? | 19:50 |
| leftyfb | madLyfe: huh? | 19:52 |
| jmgb4 | Alright ill be back, hopefully | 19:52 |
| madLyfe | chrome installs a software source when you install it. | 19:52 |
| madLyfe | if you remove chrome it leaves the software source | 19:53 |
| Devrim | What are the chances my headless ubuntu server is gonna get fucked if I do a 16.04 -> 18.04 upgrade | 19:53 |
| madLyfe | what else does it leave behind when you remove it? | 19:53 |
| Devrim | remote headless that is | 19:53 |
| jmgb4 | Strange. No errors found and it booted just fine | 19:54 |
| leftyfb | madLyfe: what software source? Google Chrome is not open source. | 19:54 |
| nacc | Devrim: please watch your language; and in general it depends on how far you are from stock Ubuntu | 19:54 |
| leftyfb | Devrim: always have your data and configs backed up and a plan to rebuild from scratch if need be. And downtime. | 19:55 |
| jmgb4 | I wouldnt call that a bug but wow that needs to be fixed | 19:56 |
| leftyfb | madLyfe: oh, you means the sources.list repo. Those repo's will stay there until you edit/remove the file manually or use something like ppa-purge | 19:56 |
| madLyfe | tyvm | 19:56 |
| Devrim | leftyfb I have backups and don't care about the downtime but having to reconfig/install everything is a pain in the ass lol | 19:58 |
| Devrim | Last time I had to do a full reinstall, took me a day to do it al :( | 19:58 |
| leftyfb | Devrim: again, please watch the language. But yes, running a server entails this type of administration | 19:59 |
| kludge | It's easier if you install it once, make a snapshot with clonezilla or something, and then copy that snapshot everywhere. | 20:03 |
| Natalie | I can't get apport to work. It's complaining about a lack of Package field. | 20:03 |
| Natalie | *apport-retrace | 20:04 |
| Natalie | Is there anywhere I can enable the OOM log messages? | 20:05 |
| TJ- | Natalie: OOM is an in-kernel mechanism; if it happened, kern.log / dmesg would report it | 20:07 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, Did you see what happened? | 20:08 |
| TJ- | Natalie: were the node, etc., tools not installed from the ubuntu package archive? that'd explain a missing "Package:" field | 20:08 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: reboot and it works? | 20:08 |
| TheAvatar | Hey. I did dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb (over ssh though), but sdb wont boot. Am I missing something? sda was a running system | 20:08 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, No, I forced a fsck and no errors found, then it booted fine. I dont get it., | 20:08 |
| Natalie | TJ-, No clue. I didn't install them. They're running in /usr/bin though. | 20:09 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: hmmm, strange in deed. But don't knock it - just keep an eye on the logs in case something else transpires. I'd suggest checking the disk SMART logs *now* in case a storage device is on its way out - and ensure you have your data, and configuration, backed up | 20:09 |
| TJ- | Natalie: you can usually prove it by searching for a known file with the dpkg tool, as in "dpkg -S /path/to/known/file" - if that came from a package that is known it'll tell you which | 20:10 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, I have nothing important on this machine. All items that are important are not local . But either way - I wouldnt call it a bug but I am going to highly suggest somewhere on ubuntus site that that be fixed - if the system wants to fsck but it cant so it stops the boot. | 20:11 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: if there was a transient data error (caused by mass storage, or failing RAM module even) it could be intermittent | 20:11 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, Could be. | 20:12 |
| jmgb4 | When I am ready to go home Ill bounce the box again to see if another error is thrown | 20:12 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: you should be able to find logs of the fsck jobs via journalctl - not sure how many boots back that'll record though, not had to do it | 20:12 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, No idea. I hate systemd and everything with it so I never look deep into the ctl stuff | 20:13 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: as in "journalctl -u *fsck*" | 20:13 |
| madLyfe | not sure how to remove everything chrome and start fresh? | 20:14 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: mine go back to start of August | 20:14 |
| jmgb4 | Same | 20:14 |
| jmgb4 | \o/ | 20:15 |
| madLyfe | i did `sudo apt remove google-chrome-stable` and `sudo apt auto-remove` and `sudo apt purge google-chrome-stable` and then went to install it again and showed it remembered a profile from the previous install on this computer. | 20:15 |
| jmgb4 | madLyfe, scary what some things stick around | 20:16 |
| jmgb4 | what => that | 20:16 |
| TJ- | madLyfe: *user* profiles won't be touched, only system config info. I cannot think of any package install/remove/purge that is allowed to touch user home directories | 20:17 |
| leftyfb | madLyfe: ~/.config/google-chrome | 20:18 |
| leftyfb | madLyfe: to be honest, removing/reinstalling the package really shouldn't do much | 20:18 |
| leftyfb | madLyfe: if you've got a problem with your profile, wiping the ~/.config/google-chrome is what usually fixed issues | 20:18 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: aha! line 4940: "Sep 11 14:23:44 garcia kernel: EXT4-fs (sdb): error count since last fsck: 1" | 20:18 |
| Eightynine | Do you have any problems with YouTube? Intel Xorg driver: YouTube stucks sometimes, takes up to 137% CPU. Modesetting driver: It took 33-40% of CPU right after removing Xorg driver and then started to behave same as it did before switching to modesetting driver. The worst thing is that Wayland session is absent, when I tried to check if I have this option I logged off and then logged in and my system completely froze. I'm using Gnome. | 20:19 |
| madLyfe | just delete that folder? | 20:19 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: so the pastebin did hold a clue, there's a few lines at that point describing the issue | 20:19 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, But why would that force a failed boot? | 20:19 |
| leftyfb | madLyfe: maybe rename it, but sure | 20:19 |
| Natalie | TJ-, I manually added the appropriate Package line. I was able to run apport-retrace, but I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking for. It shows "Signal: 6", which is SIGABRT? I'm not sure how to determine what caused that signal. | 20:19 |
| TJ- | madLyfe: generally applications create either a $HOME/.<application>/ or $HOME/.config/<application> and/or $HOME/.local/share/<application> | 20:20 |
| Natalie | The last node-looking call appears to be to spawn a new process. | 20:20 |
| TJ- | Natalie: apport-retrace, if you install all the dbgsym (debug symbols) should be able to generate a stack-trace which would help pinpoint what process/thread/function had the problem | 20:21 |
| Lavinho | good night | 20:21 |
| Eightynine | Help me please to install correct drivers and fix tearing. | 20:21 |
| Lavinho | help me please | 20:21 |
| jmgb4 | I dont expect you to konw TJ- but still, it shouldnt force a failed boot _or_ if it doesn force an unmount and fsck | 20:21 |
| Natalie | I'm staring at a stack trace. It just seems to go from "Spawn new process" to "SIGABRT", with no explanation as to why. | 20:21 |
| kludge | Natalie: it got an abort signal from the other process? Perhaps you want the trace of the other process. | 20:23 |
| Natalie | I have no idea what this other process was. | 20:23 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: well it depends on what file-systems are on failing, if they're listed in fstab as auto-mounts then I would expect that to fail since the system init has to assume it is vital to get the system started | 20:23 |
| Lavinho | grub error install ubuntu 18.10 | 20:25 |
| TJ- | Natalie: hmmm, afraid I can't be of much more help. maybe the PM2 stuff could be run under some kind of resource monitor - trying to rack my brains to think of something suitable | 20:25 |
| Lavinho | help me please | 20:25 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, I get what you are saying but its a catch22.. if its vital i get the system booted and its vital i unmount it root fs to fsck then its vital i throw a error? I mean its like shooting yourself in both feet to see what will happen | 20:25 |
| nacc | Lavinho: 18.10 is supported in #ubuntu+1 | 20:25 |
| nacc | Lavinho: it's not yet released, you know that, right? | 20:25 |
| TJ- | jmgb4: the init can't win, and sometimes it may have insufficient data to make a decision or report anything useful. it just knows it finds an error count that should be zero | 20:26 |
| jmgb4 | TJ-, I guess I ned to look into why the init cant win. But either way I think we are getting off topic a bit | 20:26 |
| nabblet | Hi, I made an account for launchpad long time ago and now i try to log in to comment on a ticket and it start going on about ubuntu one accounts (seems to be compulsory to use launchpad /bugs.launchpad.net/). Is that correct` | 20:27 |
| nabblet | ? | 20:27 |
| jmgb4 | I dont think theres going to be an answer I like down the rabbit hole though | 20:27 |
| nacc | nabblet: yes, you need an ubuntu one account | 20:28 |
| nabblet | nacc: thanks for the info. Not really the answer I hoped for though :/ | 20:29 |
| * kludge has been spending his afternoon fighting ubuntu package installers. Anyone have any clue about this? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52279917/dependency-issue-with-ubuntu-18-04-libjpeg-turbo8 | 20:30 | |
| TJ- | jmgb4: well the error reported was "sdb: initial error at time 1535132960: ext4_orphan_get:1284" so first identify where that FS would be mounted, and if it is in fstab or not. I'm guessing not since I cannot find an fsck@ unit for it | 20:30 |
| kludge | Installing libjpeg-turbo8 does not seem like a big deal. | 20:31 |
| midgetspy | hey guys I have a server that was running an ancient CentOS which I just reformatted and put Ubuntu 18.04 server on it. It's pretty standard hardware but has some SATA expansion cards and about 20 HDD. Since the reformat it has completely frozen up twice (all services non responsive, monitor displays no errors of any kind but is frozen, can't even ctrl+alt+delete). After I power it off and back | 20:31 |
| midgetspy | on how should I go about debugging this? Is there likely to be any logs anywhere that might help? | 20:31 |
| midgetspy | (it never had any stability issues with the old CentOS install so I'm assuming it's not just bad hardware) | 20:32 |
| tomreyn | midgetspy: have a look /var/log/syslog* | 20:33 |
| tomreyn | midgetspy: look for the latest messages logged before you power cycled it. | 20:34 |
| TJ- | midgetspy: do you have a record of what kernel version it was using with CentOS ? | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | !sysrq | midgetspy if it happens again, this is better than power cycling | 20:34 |
| ubottu | midgetspy if it happens again, this is better than power cycling: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 20:34 |
| midgetspy | ubottu: never heard of that, thanks, I'll try that next time | 20:35 |
| ubottu | midgetspy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 20:35 |
| TJ- | midgetspy: also sometimes of use, a remote ssh network session - sometimes the console can freeze up but a remote session not. | 20:35 |
| kludge | midgetspy: No dumps, it just silently locks up? You have a console with errors or you are booting with quiet? | 20:35 |
| johnjay | hi is it possible to give a custom wget command to apt-get to use? i have unreliable internet and apt-get commands frequently fail for me | 20:36 |
| midgetspy | TJ-: I can get it, I have a copy of the original boot drive I could put back in. It was ancient (2.4.? IIRC) | 20:36 |
| tomreyn | midgetspy: also, before the system froze, was the monitor displaying a TTY or a GUI or sorts? | 20:36 |
| midgetspy | kludge: my SSH sessions died and the local terminal was frozen | 20:36 |
| johnjay | ideally i want to instruct apt-get to continue retrying forever if a file fails to download | 20:37 |
| kludge | midgetspy: Anything in the system log from when it happened? | 20:37 |
| midgetspy | tomreyn: the local terminal was just displaying a login prompt (with some extra stuff that it printed to the screen on boot) | 20:37 |
| midgetspy | kludge: I'm waiting for it to boot up again and I'll take a look | 20:38 |
| tomreyn | midgetspy: ok, then chances are nothing related will be in syslog either. but it's still worth a look, only critical issues would be poste don the TTY. | 20:38 |
| TJ- | midgetspy: wow, very old! I'm wondering if there were any special kernel command-line options being used to help pacify the hardware. Might be worth checking on the old boot drive | 20:39 |
| TJ- | !info vlc-nox | 20:39 |
| ubottu | Package vlc-nox does not exist in bionic | 20:39 |
| kludge | He's right, disabling the gui is a good plan for something like this so that you can actually see whatever is appearing on the console when something goes badly wrong. You still might not see anything, mind you. | 20:40 |
| bambam | is it just me or is it way harder to run Linux off USB nowadays? | 20:40 |
| Eightynine | When will be Ubuntu updated to Gnome 3.30? | 20:40 |
| leftyfb | !latest | Eightynine | 20:41 |
| ubottu | Eightynine: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 20:41 |
| TJ- | hmmm, anyone know what happened to vlc-nox? seems it disappeared after 16.04 (still shows up via apt-cache on my 18.04 system though!) | 20:41 |
| leftyfb | TJ-: it'll still show up as being an installed package in your cache if it's still installed. But won't have any source | 20:41 |
| mojtaba | Hello, Do you know how can I print to PDF all of the emails that I have received with a specific criteria? like from a specific sender? (I am using Thunderbird, but I am not bound to it.) | 20:41 |
| * ExoUNX uses CentOS 3 for stability | 20:41 | |
| jmgb4 | ExoUNX, lol Im sorry | 20:42 |
| leftyfb | ExoUNX: please don't | 20:42 |
| ExoUNX | but it's old, so it must be super-duper stable | 20:42 |
| TJ- | !info vlc-bin | 20:42 |
| ubottu | vlc-bin (source: vlc): binaries from VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-1-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 52 kB, installed size 366 kB | 20:42 |
| ExoUNX | I don't mind distros locking package versions, but some use older packages than the distro release date with the excuse of stability | 20:43 |
| ExoUNX | but anyways, will Ubuntu 18.10 have OpenSSL 1.1.1 in it/ | 20:44 |
| midgetspy | TJ-: found it, it was running a custom-compiled kernel 2.6.32-358.11.1.el6.SiL3826.x86_64. the custom compile was because there was a patch for the Sil 3286 sata port multiplier (which as far as I could tell was now in mainline, I'm trying to find it again) | 20:44 |
| leftyfb | !ubuntu+1 | ExoUNX | 20:45 |
| ubottu | ExoUNX: Cosmic Cuttlefish is the codename for Ubuntu 18.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 | 20:45 |
| lowkeycoat1 | i used an sd card as a boot device, it didnt work, and now it wont register on ubuntu at all ( im using 16.04 ubuntu, my sd project was pi | 20:45 |
| jmgb4 | ExoUNX, I do question some of ubuntus reasons for holding back packages. I dont remember what it was that I was trying to figure out was held back to a package that was released in 2008 | 20:46 |
| lowkeycoat1 | i want to format an sd card that wont show up, even in dmesng | 20:46 |
| ExoUNX | jmgb4, python2 lol? | 20:46 |
| jmgb4 | ExoUNX, No but it is funny you bring that up. a lot of ubuntu is based off old old OLD python2 scripts that theyre refusing to update. But thats neither here nor there and off topic | 20:47 |
| ExoUNX | jmgb4, well, that's the struggle pretty much every linux distro | 20:48 |
| mojtaba | Hello, Do you know how can I print to PDF all of the emails that I have received with a specific criteria? like from a specific sender? (I am using Thunderbird, but I am not bound to it.) | 20:48 |
| BarnabasDK | ExoUNX, just joined what was the problem | 20:48 |
| jmgb4 | ExoUNX, Not ones that stay up to date lol | 20:49 |
| ExoUNX | BarnabasDK, I was curious if OpenSSL 1.1.1 would be available in Ubuntu 18.10. I doubt it because it's so late to the game and the release is probably frozen | 20:49 |
| ExoUNX | jmgb4, well I'm sure Fedora 28 uses py2 somewhere still, and that's probably the most cutting-edge mainstream distro | 20:50 |
| BarnabasDK | ExoUNX, are you used to fetching source and building your own stuff? | 20:50 |
| jmgb4 | ExoUNX, Pretty sure my Gentoo box uses mostly py3 | 20:50 |
| BarnabasDK | in that case - you can have any version of OpenSSL you need | 20:50 |
| ExoUNX | I'd rather not risk breaking Ubuntu 18.10 | 20:51 |
| BarnabasDK | arh .. you don't have to :-) | 20:51 |
| midgetspy | hm, in my syslog there are 400k+ lines from ureadahead saying "Ignored relative path" (I was running a snapraid fix at the time, maybe it's nothing?). nothing else suspicious | 20:51 |
| BarnabasDK | you do not have to install the libs as hostlibs /usr | 20:51 |
| BarnabasDK | just keep it withing your user space /home/<username> | 20:52 |
| Eightynine | Why not use the latest LTS kernel in LTS Ubuntu? | 20:52 |
| ExoUNX | BarnabasDK, or good ol /opt | 20:52 |
| BarnabasDK | ExoUNX, yah | 20:52 |
| BarnabasDK | I just have to ask why you feel that particualar version of SSL is what you need? | 20:53 |
| ExoUNX | TLS 1.3 testing | 20:53 |
| BarnabasDK | ah | 20:53 |
| BarnabasDK | well if it is a black/white test with regards to fixes made to ssl an older verion of the libs makes perfectly sense | 20:53 |
| tomreyn | TJ-: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/v/vlc/unstable_changelog says: "vlc (2.2.5-2) experimental; urgency=medium: Remove vlc-nox binary package." Not very telling. But as you already seem to have found out, apparently vlc-nox was then somehow redone into vlc-bin | 20:54 |
| BarnabasDK | I would check out the old version, build it and then install them in either a folder under the test user /home/<testuser> or in /opt/<somethingsomething> | 20:54 |
| BarnabasDK | and then update the LD_library path for that specific test task | 20:55 |
| ExoUNX | It's appealing that ~63% of the browser share supports TLS 1.3 now, worth banking in on the performance increase | 20:55 |
| BarnabasDK | TLS now faster than regular http | 20:56 |
| BarnabasDK | statefull connection vs per ressource connection | 20:56 |
| ExoUNX | with http/2 it is | 20:56 |
| ExoUNX | TLS over http/1.1 vs plain http/1.1 you still have overhead that http/2 mitigates | 20:57 |
| ExoUNX | but TLS 1.3 also optimizes further, reducing trips | 20:57 |
| BarnabasDK | I am not a frontend wizz I mostly work with backend stuff / os / integrations etc | 20:58 |
| ExoUNX | well, http/1.1 over TLS to be exact | 20:58 |
| BarnabasDK | but it sounds interesting | 20:58 |
| ExoUNX | thanks, ttyl, heading home | 21:00 |
| BarnabasDK | https://www.wolfssl.com/differences-between-tls-1-2-and-tls-1-3/ | 21:01 |
| BarnabasDK | the serverhelo crypt is sweet | 21:01 |
| TJ- | tomreyn: yeah, I figured it out, the various vlc binaries are prefixed with a letter (c,n,etc.) and are shell-script wrappers to get the main vlc binary to do the right thing. I'm setting up a camera stream reflector on a server in a remote office | 21:03 |
| midgetspy | TJ-: OK I have looked back through my notes and confirmed that the only deviation from a stock 2.6.32 kernel was a kernel patch which is now in the mainline (https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/ata/libata-pmp.c#L296) so it shouldn't be that. There is nothing in my syslog. sigh | 21:04 |
| TJ- | midgetspy: usually, hard lock-ups suggest a problem with temperatures or similar, I'm wondering if it could be ACPI related. Can you show us "pastebinit <( dmesg )" | 21:09 |
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| midgetspy | TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zy58r4JqjR/ | 21:18 |
| midgetspy | I do see some ACPI warnings in there, though I have no idea what they mean :0) | 21:20 |
| skinux | Anyone have any experience with CoasterCMS? Is it really very good? | 21:24 |
| nostrora | Hello everyone, i have ubuntu 18.04.1 and when i close my laptop and reopen it. ubuntu ask for password. how can i disable this feature ? | 21:27 |
| nacc | nostrora: is it the login prompt? that's presumably just the screensaver? | 21:28 |
| nacc | it seems like generally a bad idea to disable that, given that then anyone could steal your laptop and then do whtever they want to it | 21:28 |
| nacc | (specifically access your account data, etc) | 21:29 |
| nostrora | nacc: i don't know, i just know when i reopen my laptop there is an password prompt. this prompt is different than the "cold boot" login | 21:29 |
| nostrora | nacc: my disk isn't encrypted so anyone can do anything with my laptop if he steal my laptop | 21:29 |
| BarnabasDK | nostrora, are you booting secure boot? | 21:33 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: i believe they left | 21:43 |
| BarnabasDK | ah | 21:44 |
| BarnabasDK | nacc, well | 21:44 |
| BarnabasDK | secure boot requres registration of the boot keys on the boot sector .. thats where it ususally goes wrong | 21:44 |
| BarnabasDK | if anyone ever reads the transcripts of this channel | 21:46 |
| BarnabasDK | with the right indexing it would make a hell of a robot to query | 21:47 |
| BarnabasDK | is this channel still the official support chat btw? or has it moved somewhere "modern" | 21:50 |
| BarnabasDK | like facebook | 21:50 |
| TJ- | midgetspy: apart from a the final few log entries about missing (overlay) file-system mount options and the like, the dmesg looks good | 22:04 |
| armu | how do i print lines from file 2 that contain column1 in file 1? | 22:08 |
| kludge | armu: do a man on cut and join | 22:10 |
| BarnabasDK | kludge, +1 | 22:12 |
| ddelony | !WSL | 22:14 |
| ubottu | Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide | 22:14 |
| BarnabasDK | subsequently - why would you do that .. | 22:15 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: yes, this is the official support channel. Did you read /topic ? | 22:17 |
| nacc | armu: you probably wanted various scripting channels, not this one. | 22:17 |
| BarnabasDK | nacc, I did, and I have to ask, why would you run linux kernel mode under indows | 22:17 |
| BarnabasDK | in place of other alternatives | 22:18 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: it doesn't say anyting about "kernel mode" | 22:18 |
| BarnabasDK | well I belive that is how it works now in win 1+ | 22:18 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: if you would like to discuss it, the faq tells you where to go | 22:18 |
| BarnabasDK | I would rather be free | 22:18 |
| nacc | BarnabasDK: please stick to support topics. Chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic. | 22:19 |
| BarnabasDK | check | 22:19 |
| armu | awk 'FNR==NR{a[$1]=$0;next} {for (k in a) if (index($0, k)) print a[k], $0}' file1 file2 this does work but a number "1" in file 1 matches a number "10" in file 2 .. because it contains a 1 .. how do i stop this please? | 22:32 |
| armu | how do i find matching lines in file 2 , of column1 in file 1? and echo the matches on one line? i have an awk command that works but it matches "1" to "10" .. i need complete matches or to terminate the match character | 22:37 |
| BarnabasDK | armu, stayng true to the purpose of this channel as stated before, how is this related to ubuntu? | 22:39 |
| nacc | armu: you want an awk channel | 22:45 |
| Jordan_U | armu: While your question is on topic for this channel, as long as you're actually using Ubuntu to do this, you're much likely to get a good answer from #awk than from here. | 23:05 |
| Mylon | Hi. My laptop recent gave up the ghost. I'm trying to recover my data off the hard drive, but when trying to open the hard drive using a Manjaro live boot, I'm prompted for a password. | 23:06 |
| Mylon | The root password for my old computer doesn't seem to work. | 23:06 |
| Mylon | How do I open the hard drive? | 23:06 |
| Jordan_U | Mylon: First, please use an Ubuntu LiveUSB or ask your question in ##linux. | 23:08 |
| Mylon | I don't recall ever choosing to encrypt the hard drive. | 23:09 |
| Talsin | hello. I have a network interface configured to use dhcp. It works fine, however I want to use a nameserver different from the one provided by dhcp. I have added dns-nameserver 1.1.1.1 to my /etc/network/interfaces file, which works, but the bad dns server is still there /etc/resov.conf contains both nameserver 192.168.1.1 | 23:11 |
| Talsin | nameserver 1.1.1.1 . How can I replace the dns server instead of just adding another ? | 23:11 |
| Mylon | Does Mint count as Ubuntu? | 23:31 |
| nacc | Mylon: no, it's a fork | 23:31 |
| nacc | !mint | Mylon | 23:31 |
| ubottu | Mylon: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) | 23:31 |
| nacc | Talsin: are you using Network Manager? | 23:32 |
| Mylon | Alright. I'll stick with the official Ubuntu for my live boot. | 23:34 |
| Talsin | but really yes mint is ubuntu for most things, just dont tell anyone and you wont get the boilerplate disclaimer | 23:35 |
| Talsin | nacc: i have no idea, it's a very clean ubuntu 16 server install | 23:37 |
| Mylon | What's yaourt? | 23:38 |
| Mylon | Oops, wrong channel. | 23:39 |
| nacc | Talsin: please don't advise people to lie. | 23:40 |
| nacc | Talsin: server, then no NM, most likely. | 23:40 |
| nacc | Talsin: https://askubuntu.com/questions/63160/how-to-override-the-dhcp-provided-nameserver ? | 23:42 |
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| tsglove | Hello. What is the gd library? | 23:49 |
| tsglove | I am trying to configure nginx, and it's throwing this error: ./configure: error: the HTTP image filter module requires the GD library | 23:49 |
| Talsin | nacc: thanks that looks like it, saved me from some ugly scripting hacks | 23:49 |
| dar123 | hey guyz i want to do tail -f file1 | grep -v 'word1 word2' | 'word3 word4' | 23:52 |
| xamithan | its a php library, installed by using your package manager | 23:52 |
| xamithan | If you are using php7 then apt install php7.0-gd | 23:52 |
| dar123 | cant get the or condition for grep to work | 23:52 |
| Talsin | dar123: egrep -v "word[1-2]" | 23:55 |
| rfm | dar123, problem is the ! is being taken as a pipe symbol. try grep -v -e "word1 word2\|word3 word4" | 23:57 |
| rfm | dar123, or with egrep, egrep -v =e "word1 word2|word3 word4" | 23:58 |
| dar123 | Thanks guyz | 23:58 |
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