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lordievaderGood morning07:11
CrazyTuxcan we install timeshift on Kubuntu? would you recommend it?08:40
m_tadeuhi...I'm having problems with my vpn...NM is not updating resolv.conf with the vpn dns09:16
Captain_HaddockIs it possible to have a dual monitor setup with one connected to my Nvidia 1030 and another to the onboard graphics?10:17
hateballCaptain_Haddock: Not without some levels of pain, at least10:34
ylel9hello11:13
BluesKajHi folks11:24
buttros_Hello! I'm new to Kubuntu and I have a problem with Kmail...11:49
buttros_Whenever I delete a message in Kmail, it does not delete it but rather it archives it11:50
buttros_I'm talking about Kmail and Gmail account11:51
buttros_any suggestions?11:51
ylel9jamisnemo:11:52
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IrcsomeBot<griphook> Hey guys I am on Kubuntu 18.10. How can I get the new kde 5.14 installed? I see that I could do it using backports but I don't know how to do it.14:11
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @griphook, Currently in a backports testing PPA. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports-landing14:13
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> They are tesing packages, so should only be used on that basis.14:13
BluesKajthink I'll wait14:15
IrcsomeBot<griphook> ok so its not stable?14:15
IrcsomeBot<acheronuk> @griphook, it's a .0 plasma release. which means it will have 5 future bugfix releases. I would not say it is unstable for use, but it will have things that need fixing. i.e. new release = new bugs in most cases14:18
IrcsomeBot<griphook> ok14:32
IrcsomeBot<griphook> thank you14:32
kinghative played with it on neon. seems fine. only light testing though.15:49
kinghathow do we get to kubuntu cosmic already?15:49
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Captain_Haddockhateball: Thanks.16:23
BluesKajkinghat, here, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/HEADER.html16:38
kinghatBluesKaj: does that provide an upgrade path?16:50
kinghat18.10 is just around the corner isnt it?16:50
BluesKajkinghat, depends, which version are you running now ?16:53
BluesKajthat url is the daily image , not an upgrade unless you you have sepearate / and /home partitions16:54
BluesKajit's the cosmic image/iso16:55
BluesKajkinghat, if you are on 18,-04 bionic then update and upgrade your existing packages, then run sudo do-release-upgrade -d16:56
BluesKajkinghat, the release date for cosmic is the 18th16:58
kinghatBluesKaj: tyvm. have you played with 18.10 yet? seems pretty solid?17:04
BluesKajkinghat, i'm testing it as we speak...it's quite solid atm. depends on your HW and drivers etc of course.17:05
kinghatis `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` the same command that would be run if 18.10 were publicly released? or does 18.10 get pushed to everyone automatically?17:12
geniiAll releases become available to do-release-upgrade when they reach x.x.1 point release usually around 3 months after initial release, when the -d is no longer needed17:17
geniiSorry, LTS-LTS availability is what I meant there on the point release. Regular release to next regular release without -d is when the team adds it's details to the metarelease pages at https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/17:26
* genii squints around for the coffeepot17:26
kinghatso you were correct though because 18 is LTS?17:27
geniiWhich is where do-release-upgrade looks for what's available17:27
genii18.04 is, yes17:27
kinghatand that wouldnt work for 19?17:27
geniiSo it's default setting would be LTS-LTS17:28
geniiWhich can be changed in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades17:29
kinghathmm maybe ill try the upgrade here in a bit. but to get plasma on 18.10 you still need backports?17:29
geniiThere usually isn't a backports for a fresh release right away17:37
geniiIt might exist, but empty usually17:37
geniiWhatever was in the backports repo of your previous version will normally be in the regular repos of the most current version17:38
kinghatya i think i put the backports on this 18.04 install17:40
geniiAlso if you have something like an older LTS, maybe 16.04, stuff will get backported to LTS before interim releases like 16.10.17.04.17.1017:41
genii..sometime interim releases get no backports all, in fact17:41
lolcat-007why the battery widget on kubuntu disappear how can i solved that17:41
lolcat-007?17:41
kinghatnot sure if this is the backport im using: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu bionic InRelease17:43
kinghatgenii: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bd0ca34a/17:44
geniikinghat: That's the official kubuntu one, yes17:45
kinghatare you talking about the backport i posted or the paste of me trying to run the upgrade to 18.10?17:52
pedahzur(Please feel free to point me to a forum post or other doc). With the new release of Plasma out, are there plans to publish packages for Bionic in the back ports?18:08
kinghatwe've just been talking about that. unless you wernt here.18:10
pedahzurkinghat: Sorry, I was not.18:10
pedahzurIs this channel logged? I can go read scroll back.18:10
kinghatnot sure.18:11
kinghatpedahzur: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bbd69b02/18:12
pedahzurkinghat: Thank you!18:14
acheronukhttps://irclogs.ubuntu.com/18:21
acheronuk5.14 will be in backports for 18.10. for 18.04 that may happen, but it depends on new Qt for 18.04, so is not a simple task18:22
kinghatis there a way to force 18.10 upgrade onto 18.04 atm?18:24
acheronukkinghat: currently these instructions would work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CosmicUpgrades/Kubuntu18:35
pedahzuracheronuk: As I understand it, it would require backporting the new Qt to 18.04 as well?18:41
acheronukpedahzur: yes18:41
pedahzurOh...I'm sure that's loads of fun.18:41
pedahzurThat's one dependency tree I really don't need to see today. :)18:42
kinghattyvm acheronuk. what do the `-m` and `desktop` flags do over just using `-d`?19:11
acheronukhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html19:13
kinghatty acheronuk19:19
kinghatacheronuk: is there anything special i will need to do to go from the beta to the public release or will it just get upgraded to public when its released?19:34
acheronukkinghat: installing updates as they arrive will get you to the release version by release day.19:36
kinghatthis just came up on the upgrade: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yyM0gtzD/image.png19:39
acheronukkinghat: have you changed your samba config from default?19:42
geniiSelect one or the other with tab key or arrow key, and hit enter19:42
genii( is how you navigate these parts since they do not respond to the mouse )19:43
acheronukif you are not sure, you could copy that .conf file somewhere to back it up, and let it configure automatically. then you have the old .conf if needed to restore some settings19:43
kinghati added a share locally via fstab and have a .smbcredentials file but im not sure i change the default smb file locally though. i definitely did on a server hosting the share though.19:44
kinghatok ill do a backup19:45
kinghathttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/a9FQztDo/image.png19:57
kinghati think its because i removed all the commented stuffs in a samba config file. i just kept the local one.20:01
kinghathmm: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OjURNn4C/image.png20:03
kinghatnot sure about that one20:14
pedahzurkinghat: I've sometimes run in to that even with files I've never touched. I think either post-install or other utilities manually edit those files.  If it's something I know I've never touched, I usually ignore it.20:16
kinghatso install the package maintainers version?20:17
kinghathttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/V7VFNmEJ/image.png20:20
kinghati just selected the maintainers version20:22
kinghatguess i need some help setting up my shares again. not sure what happened.20:39
kinghati have the mounted share in fstab still but it doesnt appear to be mounted.20:39
kinghatlooks like the samba dir changed?20:44
kinghathaving trouble even finding a samba dir through search.20:51
kinghatalso, not sure why i cant just add sftp/ssh network place in dolphin because i can ssh in via terminal just fine.20:52
kinghatalso not finding my .smbcredentials file20:54
bpromptkinghat:   run a find, no?   find / -name *smbcredentials;21:02
kinghatim just using the find in dolphin. isnt it the same thing?21:03
bpromptkinghat:    kinda, yes, only thing is that in find you can do wildcards, I don't think you can in Dolphin, you can in Kfind though21:04
bpromptkinghat:    but yes, also as suggested at #ubuntu, run a "dpkg -L PACKAGENAME" to see where everything was put at21:05
kinghatdpkg-query: package 'samba-common' is not installed21:06
bpromptkinghat:   run a "dpkg -l samba*"   for "anything with samba" installed, and check what's there21:07
kinghatbprompt: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/709fe2b6/21:08
kinghatdoes that mean it was removed or something?21:10
bpromptkinghat:   seems so21:13
kinghatjust `sudo apt install samba`?21:14
kinghatbprompt: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xBo47Dtg/image.png21:20
bprompthmmmm21:25
bpromptkinghat:   that's an error for sftp.... so you're trying to install it on a remote machine?21:26
kinghatsorry i was just trying to setup the sftp connection to my server locally in dolphins side panel.21:27
bpromptkinghat:   locally, you can always try installing it in the Software section, under System, is called.... dunno, in 16.04 Software Center21:29
kinghatacheronuk: should i enable the sources that were disabled on the upgrade? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9snA0aIg/image.png21:54
kinghatbprompt: looks like something was jacked with my ssh known hosts file. i commented out everything and then tried to log into everything again and that seemed to work.22:11
bpromptkinghat:   from an upgrade?22:12
kinghatya. not sure why the upgrade messed with the keys. but the new keys generated are not very similar in structure either.22:12
kinghatty for your help btw22:13
bpromptyw22:13
kinghatim still new to nix so when stuff like this happens i tend to freakout a bit because im not sure exactly how to work the problem.22:14
kinghatthere really isnt a day where im not doing something new.22:14
bpromptyeah, one never knows with a newer version app, new distribution often times replaces it by some other or such22:16

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