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Krennici install ubuntu budgie but looks a litler laggy even though i like this ubuntu flavor i dont see to find a channel for ubuntu budgie00:00
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johnnyfiveHowdy. I'm still trying to figure out what causes apt to download various Translation files for a repo. Anyone have a clue?00:23
treehug88johnhmay http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/apt.conf.5.html  and Languages: "The Languages subsection controls which Translation files are downloaded and in which00:26
treehug88           order APT tries to display the description-translations"00:26
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johnnyfivetreehug88, awesome, exactly what I was trying to find. Thanks00:28
ainzHello. So I just ran an "apt autoremove" and I'm getting quite a few things. And I don't know if getting on with it is safe or not because I feel like it is trying to remove a lot. The reason I found myself here was that I removed Hexchat but some dependencies still appear like "Hexchat - Python3 Plugin" and when I tried to remove those dependencies a lot more popped up. More than I expected. Here's what appears: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KRY8YbKBgF/00:36
dman777https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2403368 I can't get 18.04 LTS server edition to run fsck on root. Is this a bug?00:37
tomtom-I actually have the same issue, I tried a couple of things like updating my grub config, but it still didn't run.00:39
tomtom-I haven't looked into this any more, but I think I will now.00:39
dman777it's really important.... I can't keep my fs healthy without it00:41
dman777going crazy from it00:41
tomtom-Should probably open a bug report about it since we both are experiencing this.00:43
dman777ok, I will go ahead00:44
tomtom-I tried 'sudo touch /forcefsck' as well.00:44
Bashing-omdman777: What results when you run fsck from a liveUSB ?00:44
tomtom-After the reboot the file was gone.00:44
dman777Bashing-om: I haven't00:48
dman777I don't believe /forcefsck will work becuase of systemd, right? I had used tune2fs with no success00:48
dman777tomtom-: but same here... I tried it anyways and file disappears00:49
Bashing-omdman777: I have experienced where the force fsck from grub is ineffective, where a more in-depth repair from the liveUSB(DVD) worked !00:49
tomtom-Bashing-om: That's not an option for people running instances on AWS and other cloud services.00:50
Bashing-omdman777: I have heard it both ways, the skinny: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html00:51
dman777tomtom-: can you file the bug? I don't think I can do it accurately00:52
dman777man, I never thought Ubunutu would be more broken than Gentoo00:53
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tomtom-dman777: Have you tested on other systems than 18.04 server edition? I haven't, but I'm sitting on a 18.04 locally here, but it's Xubuntu, but I'll give it a go anyway.00:56
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tomtom-Seems to work locally.01:01
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dman777tomtom-: I have not. So you have it fsck working?01:14
tomtom-It works on my laptop yes, but not on my servers.01:14
dman777I'm running lts on a ryzen 501:16
dman777no cloud01:16
tomtom-I'm filing a report, ok?01:18
dman777ok, please do01:18
dman777if you have the link I can post my specs on it also01:19
tomtom-I'll post the link here once filed.01:19
tomtom-I'll just do a couple of more tests on my server.01:23
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dman777ok.... xset s blank; xset s 5 isn't working ethere....screen saver never kicks in :(01:37
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tomtom-dman777: You ran 'sudo update-grub' of course? Did you check if fsck was present in /boot/grub/grub.cfg afterwards?01:41
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dman777tomtom-: yes and no. I ran it, it didn't place it in there. So I edited grub.cfg directly and placed it on the kernel command line. I also used tun2fs and set the mount count to 1 and rebooted many times01:48
dman777no success01:48
tomtom-I needed to add it to /etc/default/grub.d/50-cloudimg-settings.cfg in order for update-grub to pick up the changes (on EC2).01:49
tomtom-But still no success.01:49
tomtom-So I'm finishing the bug report now.01:49
tomtom-Ffs, Timeout error02:05
tomtom-When filing, and I forgot to copy all the text I wrote.02:05
tomtom-And it disappeared when going back.02:07
tomtom-Phew, it showed up again when I started entering the summary agian.02:10
dman777whew02:12
tomtom-https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/179728202:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1797282 in Ubuntu "fsck not running on reboot when fsck.mode=force is set" [Undecided,New]02:12
dman777tomtom-: thanks! I will add on to that tonight before I go to bed02:12
tomtom-Great.02:12
dman777Could you change the title to it not running at all? Since it won't run with tun2fs ether? They might count it as a grub issue instead02:13
OhPieyah that dissection is fun02:18
tomtom-Yes, I'll change it.02:19
dman777thanks!02:24
tomtom-Which kernel are you on?02:24
dman777tomtom-: not sure PC is in the other room.... I just replied with a comment though with all the info02:30
dman777I also did a upgrade tonight and still did not help02:30
evilytwistedhello02:30
evilytwistedany of you guys know how to fix wine where itll actually load up world of warcraft battle.net launcher? mine keeps stating it needs libcef.dll02:31
cim209i thought there was a wow native linux client02:32
evilytwistedis there?02:32
evilytwistedplease do tell.02:32
TimeDoctorthere isn't02:33
TimeDoctorwell, there was02:33
TimeDoctorbut that was before the game launched02:33
cim209evilytwisted, check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZVkfp_frs02:33
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evilytwistedty cim20902:36
k_sze[work]input methods in ubuntu (and I guess linux in general) is such a mess.02:37
k_sze[work]fcitx is just weird.02:37
cim209evilytwisted, good luck02:38
k_sze[work]I can't type with Canadian Multilingual layout, even though I've added it to the fcitx's input method config.02:38
alazyworkaholicI have a failing hard drive. I have a backup of a few months ago. Since it temp-fails quickly and works a little after a reboot, how can I copy all files modified this year to a drive on another folder, skipping bad ones, and preserving directory structure?02:39
alazyworkaholic*skipping old ones02:40
gpunkrsync?02:49
evilytwistedcim209:  if you dont mind me bothering you? i did the command for wget, and this is the output gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.02:49
evilytwistedi copied and paste the whole wget.02:49
dead_morozis xubuntu considered official flavor?02:58
tieinvhttps://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours03:02
evilytwistedcim209:  TY for suggesting lutris03:04
dead_morozRight. So I'm on Xubuntu 18.04 with compton and I'm experiencing weird freezes. I noticed that in VLC and Skype. During video playback, the image freezes, but the sound keeps playing. When I move the window around, the image unfreezes. Same with Skype, sound is fine, but image freezes randomly.03:08
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patz0rhi is there a way to install ubuntu server without all the cloud stuff like cloud-init ?04:37
patz0ror is there a better installer to use if I just want a very minimal ubuntu install without any of that extra stuff?04:38
lotuspsychjepatz0r: try #ubuntu-server mate, all the experts over there04:40
patz0rthanks lotuspsychje04:41
k_sze[work]Hi guys, according to `man cron`, it's possible to configure the logging of the cron daemon via /etc/default/cron. But where do I find the syntax?04:41
lotuspsychje!cron | k_sze[work] can this help mate?04:42
ubottuk_sze[work] can this help mate?: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto04:42
k_sze[work]lotuspsychje, no, not really. That page doesn't talk about the syntax in /etc/default/cron either.04:49
k_sze[work]or /etc/init/cron.conf and /etc/init/cron.override.04:49
EriC^^k_sze[work]: cat /etc/default/cron says it's been deprecated and to use /etc/init/cron.conf see "man 5 init"04:50
EriC^^hmm nothing there about cron though04:50
EriC^^k_sze[work]: this might help https://askubuntu.com/questions/966194/16-04-how-do-i-make-cron-create-cron-log-and-monitor-it-in-real-time04:53
k_sze[work]A bit.04:54
k_sze[work]EriC^^, I wish I can tell cron to directly send the logs to rsyslog on a remote host.04:55
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k_sze[work]So I don't need an rsyslog on the local host just to forward the logs to our central log server.04:55
EriC^^k_sze[work]: https://www.rsyslog.com/sending-messages-to-a-remote-syslog-server/04:56
EriC^^oh ok04:56
dead_morozRight. So I'm on Xubuntu 18.04 with compton and I'm experiencing weird freezes. I noticed that in VLC and Skype. During video playback, the image freezes, but the sound keeps playing. When I move the window around, the image unfreezes. Same with Skype, sound is fine, but image freezes randomly.04:57
EriC^^dead_moroz: did you try running vlc from a terminal to see if it gives any relevant warnings or error messages04:59
EriC^^what's compton btw?04:59
dead_morozCompton is a window compositor. Replaced my xfwm4 due to tearing05:00
EriC^^compton or compiz?05:01
dead_morozCompton05:01
EriC^^oh ok05:01
dead_morozRunning VLC right now, let's just wait for the freeze05:02
dead_morozWeird. Now it doesn't freeze05:20
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usualriseWhich laptop should I buy now? I use ubuntu only.05:48
usualriseI am using ubuntu from last 2 years. I want a full ubuntu complaint laptop.05:48
EriC^^usualrise: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/models/?category=Laptop05:49
dead_morozEriC, I just had a minor freeze, but nothing popped up in my terminal05:53
EriC^^dead_moroz: does anything get listed about it if you type "dmesg" in the terminal?05:54
EriC^^dead_moroz: are you using the recommended graphics driver? "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" might list it05:55
dead_moroz"sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" doesn't give any output. Nothing special in dmesg also05:57
EriC^^dead_moroz: are you using the latest kernel? everything up to date?05:57
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EriC^^sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:58
dead_morozDownloading 70MB of updates05:59
EriC^^that sounds promising, any linux-image updates?05:59
dead_morozNo linux-image updates06:00
EriC^^ok06:00
dead_morozDone upgrading. Should I reboot?06:01
EriC^^dead_moroz: yeah06:02
dead_morozrebooted06:04
slicktux0.o06:09
hashracki reported a bug a few hours ago, it was marked new and undecided. when I logged in again on launchpad, my bug report is no longer there. it was deleted. why?06:23
lotus|NUChashrack: devs can decide what to delete or not, are you sure its not there anymore?06:24
MagicNumbershi, when i want to join my ubuntu chans i'm redirected to ubuntu unregged, but i'm registered and i can join my chans manually. is there some bugs ?06:25
cfhowlettno bugs.  channel trolls = high security.06:26
cfhowlettMagicNumbers, just /msg nickserv identify [your password here]06:26
lotus|NUCmorning cfhowlett06:26
cfhowlettyowza ^3 lotus|NUC06:26
hashracklotus|NUC: its not there. i just checked my email, it says its a duplicate bug  report on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1656100. i checked the link, bug exist since January 13, 2017. and it still hasn't been fixed?06:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1656100 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Unable to remove signing keys using gnome-software-properties" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:28
MagicNumbershi cfhowlett i got this command in hexchat for my freenode network but i have to join my chans manually$06:28
cfhowlettyep, same here, MagicNumbers06:28
cfhowlettexcessive action trolls is the reason why06:29
MagicNumbersoh ok06:29
lotus|NUChashrack: duplicates can get removed06:29
lotus|NUChashrack: thats why before creating a bug, it asks at bottom if it already exists or not06:30
thanosQ: I'm assembling a new system for use with ubuntu in the next week which will have an m.2 SSD. I'm confused as to if I need a swap file or not (will it contribute to drive wear). I see "swapiness" is something that can be set in the OS and wonder if I should tinker with this at all as well. I have 16GB of ram coming for this build.06:30
lotus|NUCthanos: i always let ubuntu choose partition, even on ssd's06:31
thanosI would assume with 16gb it shouldn't need to swap much anyway, right.06:31
lotus|NUCthanos: the users choice mate06:32
hashracklotus|NUC: i saw it exist, but it was over a year ago so i decided to create a new one06:32
lotus|NUCthanos: i always let auto partition, install preload, swappiness=10, fstab relatime06:33
lotus|NUChashrack: if the 'older' bug is still active and relevant for your bug, add yourself affected to the existing bug06:34
thanosI don't know anything about fstab yet. :\   I'll look it up. thanks.06:34
thanosI'm honestly more existed about just building a linux systme than anything I've done in computers in the last decade.06:35
thanosexcited*06:35
lotus|NUCthanos: welcome to the ubuntu community, where the magic happens :p06:35
cfhowlettubuntu is a gateway drug06:35
Elec_AHi, has anybody faced issues with Nvidia Optimus drivers and ubuntu 18.04 ? I haven't been able to fix it despite of using Google. Did any method work for you ?06:36
lotus|NUCElec_A: first check, try ubuntu-drivers list, to see what your system reccomends for your card06:36
MagicNumbersi got an old computer and it could be cool to build a linux system too06:36
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Zi0nEl591Anybody Have Anything On this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/834132/updated-ubuntu-16-04-now-im-running-kali06:51
Zi0nEl591Just Realized my 18.10 Ubuntu is kali rolli06:52
Zi0nEl591Thus Explain Why Postfix Noy Work And am Have Package inst PROBLENx .06:53
Zi0nEl591Cant Use They solution Cause This an server enviroment06:53
atralheavenHi, I'm looking for a simple bootloader that just works, and supports efi and windows/linux dual boot. I have a 500MB fat32 partition with efi flags on for it, I also have the windows and linux efi files. which bootloader do you recommend? and how can I set it up? Thank you06:54
kraiskilatralheaven, have you looked into grub?06:55
atralheavenkraiskil: yes, but I couldn't set it up...06:56
atralheavenbtw my / partition is encrypted06:57
atralheavenand my distro is not Ubuntu, I asked here because there are people to help, I don't think the distro itself makes any difference when the problem is about the bootloader06:58
kraiskilAh, ok. I fear the answer is still grub ... but hang around, perhaps someone else has a better suggestion :)06:58
atralheavendo you know how can I set it up, so my laptop can recognize it when it's turned on?06:59
Ben64atralheaven: this channel is for ubuntu, if you want general support, ##linux exists07:00
guivercZi0nEl591: apt tools update to the latest package available; if you add kali sources (debian sid/testing) to an older Ubuntu system, you'll end up switching & no-longer running a clean Ubuntu system. Katoolin (spel?) is not from a Ubuntu source (no packages by exist by that name on Ubuntu sources; it's a git script); it turns the OS into a non-Ubuntu & off-topic in my opinion here & on ask.ubuntu07:00
hashrackatralheaven: what specific distro?07:02
atralheavenand, is there any advantage if I use refind instead of grub?07:02
Zi0nEl591guiverc, i Never install That But Am having same problem Was running ubuntu, i Did a Network install over ssh with chroot and did dist-upgrade Fro-14.- To 18. And soneplace along The way am Now running kali07:02
atralheavenBen64: even if the problem is not distro related?07:02
Ben64atralheaven: right07:03
atralheavenhashrack: manjaro, I think I should use another channel07:03
atralheavenBen64: ok, I will ask it on ##linux :) thank you for mentioning that07:04
hashrackatralheaven: did you try to ask in #manjaro?07:04
Zi0nEl591guiverc, KINDLY read 1st Respond on That Link All The Way THROUGH PleASE "Yes, you are now using Kali...."07:04
Zi0nEl591And i Don't Have their archive07:05
atralheavenhashrack: not now, but based on my experience, it's not as active as here. anyway, it seems that ##linux is a good place for my current problem :)07:07
guivercUbuntu 14.04 LTS is only tested to upgrade to 16.04 LTS; to release upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS requires two jumps using Ubuntu tools.07:07
abhigenie92hi07:10
abhigenie92Laptop: Dell XPS 13; OS: ubuntu 18.04; Issue: My keyboard on laptop has repeated key strokes, but when I connect external keyboard, the external keyboard works fine.07:12
Zi0nEl591aright Well APPARENTLY Another User i Have on this Box DID install That script Anyideas On How To Change It Back? Cause It i just edit the /etc/lsb-release To The incorrect version And update grub Don't Know What Expect !07:14
kraiskilabhigenie92, same machine, I had the opposite issue: external keyboard could do that when the USB on the device crashed (HW/FW failure). Do you happen to have a DELL docking station attached when this happens?07:15
guivercZi0nEl591: myself, I would clean install & improve security so users can't do strange things if it's a production machine.  Ubuntu 18.10 questions should be in #ubuntu+1, as the latest released version of Ubuntu is 18.04 LTS;  I'd look thru history/logs, sources etc & see wht was used, dpkg -s etc to find how much came from non-Ubuntu sources to access damage and see if a fix would be easier than re-install07:17
guivercs/access/assess07:17
abhigenie92kraiskil, no I don't have a dell docking station07:19
abhigenie92kraiskil, what is your bios version?07:21
kraiskillatest as of a month ago07:23
kraiskilabhigenie92, ^07:23
kraiskilabhigenie92, othervise the laptop works ok (Dell original Ubuntu 16.04 installation), but he TB16 dock kills all USB stuff twice a day.07:24
Zi0nEl591sudo apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop | grep '[ |]Depends: [^<]' | cut -d: -f2 | tr -d ' ' | xargs sudo apt-get --reinstall install -y07:26
Zi0nEl591Would Fix a desktop Enviro, But Noy Trying To put desktop packages on server07:26
Zi0nEl591sudo apt-get --reinstall install base-files/bionic-updates && sudo reboot  Any Body Been Followed That and have anything To Say Bout this?07:27
g105bHi all! Ubuntu 18.04. When I double click a .ppt or .doc, I have WPS Writer and Presentation set to launch. When I launch them, often the icon in the left-hand Gnome launcher menu thing combines with something else that is running, such as Slack. Any idea of how to fix?08:09
JediMasterHey all, I've got Ubuntu 18.04 running on a low powered Intel HD 630 graphics (CPU & motherboard based), with dual 4k monitors. It successfully detects the HDMI 4k monitor, sets it to 4k, but only at 30 Hz (runs at 60 Hz in Windows 10), however the second monitor, connected to the displayport connector only gets detected at 1024x768 (ugh). I've got the xrandr commands to set up the second monitor, on DP, to 4k @ 60Hz, but how do I make this permanent?08:32
JediMasterAlso how come there's no 150% DPI scaling, 200% is horrible, 100% is a little difficult to read08:32
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Elec_AHi, How can I find the source of this issue: https://pastebin.com/Av0My0Da There is no such a thing as "alias * off" in modprobe.d config files.09:44
hashracki run sudo apt update and it says "1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it." i tried sudo apt upgrade but didn't upgrade anything. nor does sudo apt full-upgrade. i tried apt list --upgradable and it shows "shim-signed/bionic-updates....." how can i apply this update?09:47
TJ-hashrack: is it currently "held back" - which means other packages it depends on are not yet avaiable in the archive09:48
hashrackTJ-: oh,ok. thanks. first time encountering this09:49
TJ-hashrack: I'm guessing - you would see that message when trying to do "apt {full-,}upgrade" if so09:50
hashrackTJ-: no, it just say "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."09:51
TJ-hashrack: hmmm. I think you need to show us. Do "pastebinit <( lsb_release -r; apt list --upgradable; sudo apt upgrade )"09:52
hashrackTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JT4frtDQWb/09:56
blackflowthat bionic updates has been hanging about for a month or three now. I see it in the update popup but shows no details.10:00
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TJ-hashrack: According to the big-tracker there are a lot of problems with that package currently due to dependency failures, so I suspect it may have been temporarily withdrawn from the archive10:02
TJ-grrr, bug-tracker!10:02
TJ-hashrack:  See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim-signed/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=010:02
TJ-hashrack: Seems like the problem is the latest package declares a versioned dependency on a previous version of "shim (= 13-0ubuntu2)" (that should be "shim ( = 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1)" as far as I can tell10:06
hashrackthere were a few updates with it, grub, but they we're installed. but not that one10:06
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hashrackgtg10:08
hashrackTJ-: thanks10:08
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airwindhello, what actions in a linux like Ubuntu will contribute to gathering system entropy?10:44
airwindsome programs recommend using keyboard, mouse, other articles mention network activity, etc10:44
airwindIs this correct? What are some other factors?10:45
TJ-airwind: learn from the horses-mouth: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=655025610:48
TJ-airwind: short answer: the fast-mix pool10:49
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gt_So I'm still having boot problems... Ubuntu was installed and working fine, then I LUKS encrypted my root partition in place, and created a separate unencrypted boot partition. I've tried setting grub up correctly, and grub starts, but upon selecting Ubuntu it takes a minute or so and eventually shows this error: https://i.imgur.com/LYQ6peB.jpg without prompting for the decryption password. Blkid and all the configs are here: http://termb10:54
blackflowgt_: can you repeat the second link please?10:56
gt_the second link? http://termbin.com/kq2j10:57
gt_not sure what you mean10:57
blackflowgt_: yes, that it got cut off10:57
TJ-gt_: did you re-run "update-initramfs -u" in the encrypted rootfs so it adds the required tooling to the initrd.img? Also, did you add an entry to /etc/crypttab ?10:58
gt_yes, `update-initramfs -u -k all` and `update-grub`10:59
gt_crypttab is http://termbin.com/xqwy10:59
TJ-gt_: Did you update the rootfs UUID/node reference in /etc/fstab too? In other words, does UUID d1cd53c7... exist?11:00
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blackflowgt_: why did you put that cryptdevice thing in the command line? it's not needed for regular ubuntu's initramfs, are you using some other tool for it, like dracut or something?11:00
blackflowTJ-: yes UUID are correct, I checked yesterday from that list, and thta's why I'm confused why it wouldn't work. UNLESS it has something to do with EFI.11:01
TJ-gt_: blackflow Secure Boot is enabled I'm guessing (from the PKCS#7 messages)11:02
gt_TJ-: d1cd is the UUID of the filesystem inside the encrypted luks partition11:02
blackflowI don't have any special setup for root on zfs on luks. ti configured it automagically, from chroot mounted in correct order11:02
TJ-gt_: is LVM in use in the stack from raw disk to LUKS container?11:02
gt_blackflow: desperation, i set it up on arch also, wasnt sure if ubuntu needed it or not11:02
gt_no LVM, just LUKS11:02
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blackflowgt_: nah I think that's for dracut11:02
gt_ok11:03
blackflowfor the error you have, initramfs'  init script has no idea it has to unlock the LUKS containers before it tries root.11:03
TJ-gt_: do you have a list of what is in the initrd.img ?11:04
TJ-gt_: I'm assuming you'er manually unlocked and booted it, is that correct?11:04
gt_would that be `cat /proc/modules` from inside initramfs11:04
gt_?11:04
nisankhindiasomething weird happend after recent update https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DFbtw79BfK/11:04
TJ-gt_: no, from a booted OS use "lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r)"11:05
blackflowgt_: you don't even get the passphrase prompt, right?11:05
gt_i've been chrooting into the partitions from a liveusb11:05
gt_no prompt, no11:05
TJ-gt_: Or even better, regnerate the initrd and capture the verbose log with "sudo update-initramfs -vu |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log"11:05
TJ-gt_: I'm guessing the cryptsetup tools, and/or the ./conf/conf.d/cryptroot file isn't there11:06
gt_TJ-: http://termbin.com/bk2u11:06
blackflowgt_: you know what I think? you're not even using the initramfs it is creating, but something left from somehwere else / before11:07
gt_strange, I completely wiped /boot earlier, including the contents of /boot/efi, and set it up from scratch11:07
blackflowyah see, no cryptsetup in that list. Are you 100% sure that's from mounted /boot?  mounted from /dev/sda3 ?  Not a remnant from before when /boot was part of root?11:08
gt_maybe the update command is updating it somewhere else, but the reinstall of the kernel is adding to the right place?11:08
blackflowgt_: mount | grep boot11:08
TJ-blackflow: that sounds plausible, and a frequent gotchya!11:08
blackflowTJ-: been burned by that a few times :)11:08
gt_that's the result of `lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-36-generic`11:09
gt_i will check it's from sda3 for sure11:10
TJ-gt_: in your current chroot, did you mount "UUID=d4579df8-2760-41f1-8249-e9638d4d209c /boot" ?11:10
TJ-gt_: when I use a chroot, from the host I bind-mount proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf and then once inside the chroot I do "mount -a" to ensure all fstab entries are correctly mounteed11:11
blackflowgt_: this is how it should look with cryptsetup available:  https://dpaste.de/Bahq11:11
blackflowgt_: but make sure it is, with a  mount | grep boot   afterwards. this doesn't seem like it is11:12
gt_initrd is definitely on sda3, i unmounted everything else11:12
gt_how I've been setting up chroot is `cryptsetup open /dev/sda7 cryptroot; mount /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt; mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/boot; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi; for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do mount --bind $i /mnt$i; done; chroot /mnt`11:14
gt_should I do something different?11:14
TJ-gt_: that's OK - although I always recommend leaving the fstab mounts to "mount -a" once inside the chroot - that ensures you can detect errors/ommissions that can fail the /bootable/ system11:15
gt_what decides whether cryptsetup gets put into initramfs?11:15
blackflowgt_: I'd use -R instead:   mount -R /dev /mnt/dev && mount -R /sys /mnt/sys && mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc11:16
TJ-gt_: So, in your chroot grab us a verbose update-initramfs log11:16
blackflowbecause there's also dev/shm you forgot (not sure if that's the culprit) and there's submounts in /sys too (cgroups and friends)11:16
TJ-gt_: as in  "update-initramfs -vu -k YOUR_VERSION |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log"11:16
blackflowgt_: initramfs hooks do from autodetecting layers under root11:16
blackflowgt_: oh one more thing... when you chroot, make sure /etc/mtab is correct or symlinking to /proc/self/mounts11:17
blackflowthat's what's checked against for current mount data, in chroot11:17
TJ-gt_: One thing I can imagine is this: if the liveISO boot uses an oolder kernel and you do not specify which kernel version then 'update-initramfs -u' (with no -k X) would build for an older kernel that is likely not the default used by GRUB11:19
blackflowgood catch!11:19
TJ-gt_: did say "-k all" was used at some point though11:19
blackflowand grub.cfg menu entry seems correct too:    initrd/initrd.img-4.15.0-36-generic      (still good idea to make 100% sure)11:20
humblewolfhi guys , trying to install ubuntu 18 in 2nd hdd, windows in 1 ssd already installed , unable to boot into ubuntu ? boot-repair report http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WMkcCHtFJK/11:21
gt_mtab is symlinked outside the chroot, should i symlink it to proc inside the chroot?11:21
humblewolfefibootmgr op is : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rhhgPJRZbq/11:22
blackflowgt_: yes, to be 100% sure. iirc in the past mtab was used instead of /proc/self/mounts  and some tools might still be using mtab instead of procfs directly11:22
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blackflowgt_: but uh... it should already be linked, because in chroot, /proc is the bind-mounted proc11:23
gt_made a mistake, it's fine11:24
humblewolfany help guys11:24
gt_chrooted in with -R on /proc /dev and /sys, will get the initramfs log11:24
TJ-humblewolf: in what way does it fail? At what point? what do you (not) see ?11:24
humblewolfTJ- : first it does not show as uefi entry in firmware boot ment11:26
humblewolfmenu*11:26
LXVwhatsapp11:26
humblewolfTJ- : second there is an entry in legacy section of firmware boot menu which points to this hdd, if i select it there it shows no os found11:27
gt_initrd log: http://termbin.com/q6db11:27
TJ-humblewolf: if you don't see ubuntu in the PC's own boot menu then I'd guess it is related to Secure Boot options, and/or needing to manually "Trust" the grubx64.efi/shimx64.efi" files from the PC firmware Security menus11:28
TJ-gt_: "WARNING: missing /lib/modules/4.15.0-36" !!11:29
humblewolfTJ-: have u read the report ??? is it okay ??11:29
gt_i guess i ran it wrong, hang on11:29
blackflowand no crypto11:29
humblewolfTJ-: do i need to disable secure boot from firmware settings11:30
TJ-humblewolf: the bootrepair report doesn't seem to show any problems but it is easy to get lost there due to too much inconsiquential data11:30
gt_TJ-: http://termbin.com/wu3v11:31
TJ-humblewolf: Secure Boot will be fine *if* "shim-signed" package was/is installed. But if the "ubuntu" entry doesn't appear on the menu then you'll need to experiment with the firmware options11:31
gt_needed the `-generic` on the ond, didn't realize11:31
gt_surprised it even did anything11:32
BluesKajHey folks11:32
blackflowgt_: still no cryptsetup11:32
TJ-gt_: Better, but still no cigar! ^^^^ as blackflow says11:32
TJ-gt_: "apt install --reinstall cryptsetup"11:32
gt_at least it's narrowed down the issue now11:32
blackflowTJ-: yeah, all this time I forgot to ask if crypsetup is even installed in the chroot (assuming it's there because the countainer is mounting, so....)  lol.11:33
nisankhindiacan anybody explain what does it means https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SXxStpgPX5/11:33
TJ-blackflow: indeed :)11:33
gt_cryptsetup isn't installed in the chroot, that makes a lot of sense11:33
humblewolfTJ-: okay let me play with firmware settings, one more thing the efi partition has only 4 mb space usage , is it okay ???11:33
TJ-gt_: Doh!11:34
blackflowthere you go :)))11:34
TJ-humblewolf: yes, it doesn't need much11:34
TJ-humblewolf: bootrepair shows "/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi" so Ubuntu is installed to work with Secure Boot - so I'm betting there is a "trust" option in the firmware Security setup11:35
humblewolfTJ-: okay one more thing , which bootloader will be fired up , sda2 or sdb111:37
TJ-humblewolf: whichever is referenced in the firmware boot menu config. You can see in that efibootmgr shows "Boot0002* ubuntu HD(1,GPT,496e633e-35ce-4c57-ab1d-7c20b02ae10c,0x800,0x113000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi)" ( "HD 1" as opposed to "HD 2" for Windows) suggests different devices11:39
gt_blackflow: TJ-: brilliant, boots up fine(ish) now!11:41
humblewolfTJ-: it means my ssd is hd211:41
gt_ish being it's also in read-only mode11:42
gt_so I guess have to change grub config?11:42
blackflowgt_: thank TJ, he thought of it. I totally forgot to ask.11:42
TJ-gt_: in what way?11:42
TJ-gt_: you're not using an encrypted /boot/ so GRUB shouldn't need any changes11:42
gt_terminal complains that it's a read only file system when it tries to do anything in the booted up system11:43
gt_i noted there was "ro" in the grub.cfg but on my working machine it is "rw"11:44
humblewolfTJ-: one more thing , when does shimx64.efi comes into picture, ? bro i'm new to this bootloading thing11:44
humblewolfTJ-: sorry for asking noob questions11:44
blackflowgt_: ro is for initramfs. once pivoted, root is mounted normally11:45
gt_or would it be to do with fstab?11:45
blackflowgt_: possibly, can you pastebin it again, I lost the link11:45
TJ-humblewolf: for Secure Boot, since it is signed by Microsoft's CA cert. It contains the Canonical/Ubuntu public key, which is used to sign the kernel etc. So it goes UEFI > shimx64.efi > grubx64.efi > vmlinuz-$VERSION ...11:45
gt_http://termbin.com/cj7i311:45
blackflowgt_: no that's errors=remount-ro, which is normal. so, do you ahve some major error there?  can you `mount -o remount,rw /`  ?11:46
humblewolfTJ-: okay got it , thanks bro11:46
gt_ah, was in the process of rebooting into chroot again11:46
gt_can i do all this from the normal system i.e. not liveusb?11:47
blackflowgt_: should be possible yes11:47
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blackflowgt_: pastebin just `mount` from the booted system11:47
gt_seemed like disk needed "fsck"ing on reboot11:50
gt_i guess that was the error11:50
blackflowgt_: excellent!11:50
ylel9hello11:51
gt_all working! thanks so much!11:52
ph88anyone know a dummy command that needs sudo privileges ?11:54
TJ-ph88: any command can be run under sudo11:54
KhaoticTJ-, what's the link to your blog to change the grub entry for windows 2015 or whatever?11:55
TJ-Khaotic: for acpi_osi ?11:55
ph88can != need11:55
Khaoticyuip11:55
TJ-Khaotic:  this > http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html11:55
TJ-ph88: "sudo uname -a" maybe ?11:55
Khaoticthat's it. thanks!!!11:55
Khaoticgrub updated and i need to readd it i think11:56
ph88TJ-, uname -a does not need sudo rights to execute11:56
TJ-Khaotic: in theory if you added it to /etc/default/grub then there's nothing more you need to do11:56
kraiskilph88 'ls /root'11:56
ph88ah thx11:56
kraiskilI once ran 'rm -rf /lib' - I felt like a dummy :)11:57
Khaoticyou're right11:57
Khaoticit didnt change11:57
TJ-kraiskil: not as much as the system did :)11:57
Khaoticjust wanted to be on the safe side11:57
TJ-kraiskil: I once dealt with a server where the admin did that... it was surprisingly easy to repair11:59
kraiskilyup. but it does give a scare though.12:00
Atlantic778Hi! I have a very strange problem after kernel upgrade/system update/tweaking thermal settings. The problem is related to unresponsive gui, but it happens only with Xorg, and everything seems to be fine with wayland.12:19
Atlantic778I'm using integrated intel gpu. Tried reboot, previous kernel, disabling the thermal tweak but still no clue what's going on.12:20
Atlantic778RAM, CPU and the rest looks fine. The dmesg logs as well look fine. Any suggestions what to check next?12:21
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: can you provide us your ubuntu version/kernel please12:21
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: ubuntu 18.04, currently booted kernel is 4.15.0-36-generic12:22
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: did it work on .35?12:22
Atlantic778This is the new one, the previous one is -34. I don't have any other kernels installed.12:22
Atlantic778And I can't recall which one was booted when it was working.12:23
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: can you test it on 34 for example?12:23
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: I did test with 34, didn't help.12:24
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: so we can closeout kernel issue right12:24
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: what exactly did you tweak about thermal?12:24
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: I think so. I suspect it's X.12:24
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: the thermal fix is related to the problem with recent lenovo machines. It's this solution  https://github.com/erpalma/lenovo-throttling-fix12:25
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: effectively, it sets new values in the msr registers. If this is disabled / removed, everything should go back to normal after reboot. I can confirm that msr registers are set with this solution and they have the old values when I disable it.12:26
Atlantic778The old (original) vlue being 20, and the new one 5.12:26
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: before playing with the git, did you notice lenovo firmware updates from gnome-software?12:26
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: yes, I did, I have updated to the most recent BIOS for my machine and it fixed some problems (deep sleep for example).12:27
Atlantic778My current BIOS version for thinkpad x1c6 is 1.3012:27
Atlantic778BIOS/firmware whatever it's called these days. I did the update using fwupdmgr.12:28
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: you said this occured after updates, in wich stage did you have it working?12:28
TJ-Atlantic778: at which point is the GUI unresponsive? Login greeter, immediately after log-in, after some time or particular action?12:29
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: and your graphics card chipset/driver version might be relevant too for us12:30
Atlantic778Everything worked fine after the firmware upgrade for couple of weeks. Today I did system update (it was just 4 packages, can recall which ones, nothing serious). I wasn't sure if I rebooted after the last kernel update so I rebooted the laptop just to be sure.12:32
Atlantic778Before the reboot, I applied the thermal fix, and also wasn't sure if it was working, but GUI was responsive at the time.12:32
Atlantic778TJ-: the GUI seems to be responsive on the login screen. Once I start the regular session, after login, the cursor is responsive as before, but GUI doesn't respond quickly to clicks, and or to keyboard (for instance openning the terminal). Also, typing in the terminal is slow, but I would say that it is just graphics related.12:34
Atlantic778when I type in "sudo reboot" followed by the password, the command is not yet visible in the terminal, but the laptop will reboot instantly12:34
Atlantic778Also, this doesn't happen when I start ubuntu wayland session, which I am running now.12:35
TJ-Atlantic778: OK, so we have a chance of gathering logs whilst the issue is active. So, I'd suggest looking at $HOME/.xsession-errors (or copying that file somewhere safe) whilst a problem GUI session is active12:35
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: which numbers specifically would be helpful? I am not sure.12:35
TJ-Atlantic778: that file is recreated on each log-in so you need to copy it to preserve it12:35
Atlantic778TJ-: alright, let me reconnect from other machine and get the log. be right back.12:37
Atlantic778Thank you for your support! :)12:37
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Atlantic778well, I don't have the ~/.xession_errors file12:47
Atlantic778I have just rebooted it nad started an X session, I can connect to it through ssh but I don't have such file, or any similar12:48
sukram_184Hello12:50
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: sorry, can you tell me how to check graphics driver version?12:51
Atlantic778If it is the xserver-xorg-video-intel, then the version is 2:2.99.917+git20171229-112:52
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: sudo lshw -C video12:53
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rb8cYzrPMG/12:54
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: ok tnx intel driver loaded12:56
lotus|NUCAtlantic778: was this a clean install or an upgrade from another version?12:57
Atlantic778lotus|NUC: clean install12:57
Rich03Hi i am new to IRC, and i hope i am in the right place i could really do with some help regarding a canon LBP2900 Printer and Ubuntu 18.04 64 Bit.12:58
TJ-Atlantic778: did you mistype? It's $HOME/.xsession-errors12:58
Atlantic778TJ-: there is only .xinputrc, no other files starting with .x, capital or xmall x.12:59
Atlantic778TJ-: I have checked with ls -a12:59
TJ-!info printer-driver-cjet | Rich03 Have you tried installing13:01
ubottuRich03 Have you tried installing: printer-driver-cjet (source: cjet): printer driver for Canon LBP laser printers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-7 (bionic), package size 27 kB, installed size 75 kB13:02
TJ-Atlantic778: and it is definitely an X session? That is strange. Has the disk run out of space "df -h" ?13:02
Rich03Hi TJ it requires the CAPT driver from cannon, can i go ahead and tell you what i have already tried im not sure if this is a wait your turn kind of chat.13:03
TJ-Rich03: did you install printer-driver-cjet ?13:03
blackflowRich03: it's not, you can post whenever you want, but try to give all the info in as few lines as possible, use a !pastebin for multiline texts, and have patience to wait until someone responds, or you can re-ping your question after a while (dunno, 15-20 minutes?) if nobody does.13:04
Atlantic778TJ-: well, on the login screen I have two choices "ubuntu" and "ubuntu wayland". The first one doesn't work properly an the second one does.13:05
Atlantic778TJ-: is there some reliable way to check? I tried with ps aux | grep -i xorg, and I see this13:06
Atlantic778/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt2 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 313:06
Atlantic778But there is also this process: /usr/bin/Xwayland :1024 -rootless -terminate -accessx -core -listen 4 -listen 5 -displayfd 613:07
TJ-Atlantic778: hmmm, I'm not entirely sure! I don't use gnome or wayland. Maybe lotus|NUC or someone else is more familiar with that side13:08
Rich03I have followed tutorials from askubuntu and cannon themselves they tell you to install the cndrvcups-common and cndrvcups-capt drivers from their site, which i have done. Then add the printer with lpadmin -p LBP2900 -m CNCUPSLBP2900CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59787, and then register it in the ccpd daemon with ccpdadmin -p LBP2900 -o /dev/usb/lp0. I have followed multiple tutorials all with the same result printer installs shows its there i can click13:11
Rich03print it says its processing and nothing ever come out.13:11
howarthjwAnyone on a GTX 680 video card?13:12
pragmaticenigmahowarthjw: Please ask your support question, if someone has a potential solution, they will respond13:12
Atlantic778TJ-: I have just tried with i3, and it works fine. It looks like it must be gnome + xorg related.13:12
Rich03I am looking at TJ's suggestion on printer-driver-cjet i will let you know how it goes.13:13
howarthjwI would very interested to know if they can boot into runlevel 3 with ‘rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau 3' appended to their kernel options13:13
TJ-Rich03: have you tried using the CUPS local web-admin to configure / test the printer? ( http://localhost:631 )13:14
howarthjwOn a 2008 MacPro with a Mac ROM'ed GTX680, I am seeing no console text if I disable the nouveau drive in the kernel13:14
howarthjwthis is really surprising as I thought all graphic cards had minimal frame buffer driver support13:15
howarthjwOr do they really need the dedicated nouveau or nvidia drivers in the kernel?13:16
howarthjwhttps://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/ seems to claim that this isn't the case13:16
pragmaticenigmahowarthjw: Comparing Ubuntu to Fedora isn't going to give you an accurate answer. They are different in their setups that what is true in one, will not always carry over to the other.13:17
howarthjwwell this is a very generic question13:17
TJ-howarthjw: in the absense of the nouveau/nvidia drivers I'd have expected the vesa driver to be available13:17
howarthjwcan ubuntu on a Kepler card boot from the frame buffer driver13:17
howarthjwokay vesa13:18
pragmaticenigmahowarthjw: Given that the card has been flashed with a specific MacOS compitible rom, it is possible that the VESA drivers aren't compatible or Ubuntu us defaulting to an onboard graphics chipset instead?13:18
howarthjwWindows 10 has no issues13:18
pragmaticenigmahowarthjw: Again, apples and oranges... Windows is a completely different archetecture from Ubunt13:18
howarthjwneither does nouveau13:18
TJ-howarthjw: are you saying this lack of console is when using the nvidia driver? if so that is expected, it even prints a warning in the kernel log about that13:19
howarthjwdoesm13:20
howarthjwdoesn't look like there are many knobs to twist on vesa13:20
TJ-howarthjw: usually its something like "NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console"13:20
Rich03TJ: The CUPS local webmin says ... Idle - "ccp send_data error, exit"13:21
TJ-Rich03: it sounds like a Canon specific problem with their driver; you'd need to contact Canon I think.13:22
Atlantic778TJ-: lotus|NUC hm, this is interesting. It looks like it is related to powersaving. When I start glxgears in the xorg session everything suddenly wents back to normal, until I close the glxgears.13:23
bailroccrazy hearing about someone having video card issues still with xorg13:23
TJ-Atlantic778: in firmware setup, is "C3E" enabled? That can often cause problems13:23
pragmaticenigmabailroc: Please try to stay on topic. If you are not assisting someone, please refrain from adding commentary.13:24
Atlantic778TJ-: I'm not sure what that means. Can you give some additional hints?13:24
TJ-Atlantic778: C3E is the Enhanced C3 power state; known to cause problems on some systems. It's one possible avenue to explore (set in the PC firmware setup screens)13:25
TJ-Atlantic778: as the issue seems to have happened after an upgrade it's unlikey though13:26
Atlantic778TJ-: this thing? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(Gen_6)#Enabling_S313:26
TJ-Atlantic778: the other test you should do is create a new user account and log-in to that, see if that also suffers the same problem. if it does not that points to a user-specific config issue13:26
Atlantic778TJ-: did that with new user, nothing changed.13:26
TJ-Atlantic778: no, not S3; I'm talking about C3E13:27
howarthjwsigh, the vesafb documentation is rather stale (2010) and totally omits any reference to nvidia cards13:27
Atlantic778TJ-: ok, let me check the C3E13:27
TJ-howarthjw: an additional wrinkle may be if the system boots using the efifb if it is doing an EFI boot13:28
TJ-howarthjw: best thing to do is read the kernel log (via 'dmesg' )13:28
howarthjwI don't get that far13:28
howarthjwwell maybe13:28
howarthjwI'll have to double check13:29
howarthjwsurprised there isn't any ready examples on the web of a generic mode setting line for vesafb13:29
howarthjwto get a really generic 640x48013:29
TJ-howarthjw: is openssh-server installed so you can remote in to grab the log13:30
howarthjwhttp://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/boot-options.html looks promising13:30
howarthjwvideo=conn:res[M][R][-bpp][@refresh][i][m][eDd]13:31
TJ-howarthjw: it might help to set GRUB to use "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" in /etc/default/grub to prevent the bootloader putting the system into a non-text mode13:31
nisankhindiai am not able to change the ethernet speed from 10Mb/s , duplex half to 1000mb/s , duplex full13:38
ZeZunew updates broke nvidia drivers again?13:39
nisankhindiatried ethtool -s DEV speed 1000 duplex full autoneg on , but still no changes13:39
ZeZu[     5.584] (EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:01:00.0: -1913:39
ZeZu[     5.584] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory13:39
flask-I have a couple questions related to the coexistence of ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop on a single PC.  I originally installed the system from the Kubuntu ISO but ultimately installed ubuntu-desktop via APT and I've been using that happily for several months. Today after running an 'apt upgrade' and rebooting, my Ubuntu desktop is no longer defaulting to Nautilus when I double-click the folder icons on my desktop, instead they're open13:40
flask-ing in Dolphin.  I'd like to remove all traces of KDE from my system and get Nautilus back to the default file manager. Can someone help?13:40
TJ-ZeZu: check if the nvidia driver is built/installed for the current kernel version with "uname -r; dkms status"13:41
VladTheImplierHey all! My awk/sed lingo falls flat: I'd like to switch 2 Numbers in a file name: 7-23-9.jpg -> 7-9-23.jpg How would I go about this?13:41
TJ-flask-: that sounds like a local -per-user config change for the default file manager handler13:42
TJ-VladTheImplier: on the file system, or in a stream/file that contains filenames?13:42
flask-TJ-: any idea where that might be or why it would have spontaneously changed on me?13:42
VladTheImplierTJ: On the filesystem13:42
VladTheImplierTJ so some awk magick piping into mv13:43
ZeZueven switching to open driver didn't help, wtf13:43
TJ-VladTheImplier: you might find "file-rename" useful; it takes Perl RegExps. See "man file-rename"13:44
VladTheImplierTJ-: How would I even go about expressing a switch with RegEx?13:47
TJ-VladTheImplier: " rename 's/(.+)-(.+)-(.+)(.jpg)/$1-$3-$2$4/' 7-23-9.jpg "13:48
nisankhindiaflask-: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager .. any confusion revert back to irc13:48
VladTheImplierOk thanks13:49
TJ-VladTheImplier: see how I just swapped the order of the matches ?13:49
VladTheImplierTJ-: Holy Shit! Many thanks!13:51
VladTheImplierTJ-: I'll go and figure out how it works :D   it seems like pure magick13:51
Rich03TJ: Yep looks like ill have to try get some help from canon, thanks anyway.13:53
TJ-VladTheImplier: the regular expression "(.+)-(.+)-(.+)(.jpg)" captures 'groups' dot "." matches any character. "+" is a non-greedy match of 0 or more of the previous character. Therefore each "(.+) matches up to the next "-". We capture three groups ($1, $2, $3) and then the file suffix ".jpg" as $4. Then in the replacement we swap the order of $2 and $313:53
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nisankhindiaflask-: whats the out put of " cat /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop "13:55
TJ-flask-: nisankhindia how about "xdg-settings --list"13:57
nisankhindiaTJ: can get the seetings from DE , can do that also13:58
TJ-flask-: nisankhindia also this might be better: "xdg-mime query default text/directory"13:59
TJ-nisankhindia: much easier to give shell commands than describe how to navigate a GUI and need to relay what is seen14:00
nisankhindiaTJ: iam confiming the situuation so that user can do automated way , not any manual method14:01
A1ReconI am having problems with xrandr. It can't detect my video outputs (Usually they are LVDS-1 and VGA-1, if VGA is plugged in). The error I get is this:14:02
A1Recon"xrandr failed to get size of gamma for output default ubuntu"14:02
TJ-flask-: this might be even better: "xdg-mime query default inode/directory"14:03
TJ-A1Recon: Are you sure the desktop session is using Xorg and not Wayland?14:03
* ZeZu sighs14:04
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ZeZulinux is getting worse imo14:04
TJ-A1Recon: "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE"14:04
A1ReconTJ : It's a Ubuntu 16.04 system with just i3-wm added on top of it.14:04
ZeZuyou can't update w.o something breaking half the time14:04
TJ-A1Recon: OK ao is 'xrandr -q' reporting anything, or nothing at all?14:05
A1ReconTJ: The output for that is "x11"14:05
A1Reconthat == echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE14:05
TJ-A1Recon: yeah, I figured that out :)14:06
A1ReconTJ: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gZBJpWc3hq/14:07
TJ-A1Recon: As the GPU outputs are not listed by name I'm going to guess that the GPU driver hasn't loaded properly and it has fallen back to some safe mode. check the Xorg log file ( /var/log/Xorg.0.log )14:09
ZeZu| grep EE14:10
ZeZuIf you just updated, and using nvidia drivers you're prob in same boat as me :P14:11
TJ-ZeZu: you still didn't confirm what the results of the command I suggested 1/2 hour ago are14:12
ZeZuI'm confused as to how the binary  driver and the gpl driver are both having the same problem ... it's drm related14:12
ZeZuTJ-: i prob didn't see them,  konversation doesn't give me a back log from my znc properly14:12
TJ-ZeZu: if nvidia is installed, nouveau is blacklisted, which would explain that14:12
ZeZuI've rebooted numerous times, sorry?14:12
TJ-ZeZu: check if the nvidia driver is built/installed for the current kernel version with "uname -r; dkms status"14:13
A1ReconTJ: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JWcV4cjSSn/14:13
ZeZunvidia, 390.77, 4.15.0-36-generic, x86_64: installed14:13
ZeZuand i had purged nvidia fully before switching back14:13
ZeZuand then readded nvidia binary,  and it worked again for a single reboot but second monitor wouldnt' work ... then same issue after reboot14:14
ZeZuvery weird14:14
A1ReconTJ: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZkzdhQYsdS/  << This is the output of xrandr when everything was working fine and i had connected LVDS-1 and VGA-114:14
ZeZuA1Recon: [    23.981] (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied14:15
TJ-A1Recon: the issue looks like it's caused by "(EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied"14:15
TJ-A1Recon: the GPU is Intel so I doubt this is caused by nvidia drivers *unless* it's an nvidia-prime system with iGPU+discrete GPU14:16
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TJ-A1Recon: show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"14:16
ZeZu drm is failing to find card0 for both of us on new update...14:18
ZeZuOddly: it's not the kernel, as I boot prev kernel14:19
A1ReconTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JR5HcTbqQk/14:19
TJ-ZeZu: what does the 'dmesg' kern.log look like when it fails. Might be some clues from the nvidia driver14:19
nisankhindiaA1Recon: how you have installed the drivers for the hardware , using ubuntu repsoitory or using source14:19
TJ-A1Recon: yes that system has dual GPUs, the other is "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 630M] [10de:0de9] (rev ff)"14:20
ZeZuThere is nothing in dmesg14:20
ZeZunothing useful14:20
ZeZuonly the DRM fail in Xorg.log.014:20
TJ-A1Recon: please show us "apt list --installed nvidia*; uname -r; dkms status )"14:20
A1Reconnisankhindia: Using software and updates center  > External 3rd party softwares?14:21
TJ-A1Recon: we can determine the archive/repo used once we know what package is in use14:21
A1Reconhow do i know which package is in use?14:22
TJ-A1Recon: please show us "pastebinit <( apt list --installed nvidia*; uname -r; dkms status )"14:22
A1ReconTJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GQJRjS8d3b/14:24
TJ-ZeZu: which OS release and kernel is on your system?14:24
ZeZuDoes driver manager not remove the blacklist switching back to nouveau ?   and is it in it's normal spot ?14:24
ZeZubionic 4.15.0-36-generic14:24
TJ-ZeZu: so far as I understand, the nvidia .prerm or .postrm script should be doing that14:25
TJ-ZeZu: is your system an iGPU/discrete GPU too? If so you may be correct that A1Recon's issue is related to yours14:26
ZeZunope14:26
TJ-A1Recon: please show us "pastebinit <( dmesg )"14:26
ZeZuIf his is igpu14:26
ZeZuand the monitor he's using is on the intel port14:26
TJ-ZeZu: his is intel+nvidia14:26
ZeZuthen he needs to check his bios settings too14:27
ZeZuIE:  mine 'has' an intel chipset,  but iGPU is disabled ... with a laptop they are usually a frankenstein combo tho14:27
ZeZuLinux usually figures it out and by default it's enabled in bios tho14:28
nisankhindiaA1Recon: list all available drivers and paste the output " sudo ubuntu-drivers list "14:28
A1ReconTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vfPfKJsVZK/14:28
nisankhindiaA1Recon: than we will move to next steps , proper driver and module than setting up the nvidia - intel dual Graphics settings in system14:29
MacroManI've got an error from apt when updating grub-pc: https://paste.ngx.cc/785459358a4b663614:30
A1Reconnisankhindia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sYc9cjQKsN/14:30
MacroManI also got a terminal dialog saying that my computer may fail to boot (This is a remote server, so I can't risk anything)14:30
A1ReconTJ-: ^14:31
MacroManCan anyone let me know if the error I've received will actually be a problem or not?14:31
TJ-A1Recon: that is interesting; the nvidia driver loads fine, the intel driver loads fine, bbswitch disables the intel so nvidia is the primary GPU.14:32
ZeZubrbbrb14:32
compdocnever seen errors about embedding14:32
nisankhindiaA1Recon: lets go lammers way from the beginning again . use this " sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall  "14:32
TJ-A1Recon: sorry, I mistyped. bbswitch disables the discrete (nvidia) GPU14:33
ZeZuIs that the new vgaswitcheroo lol14:34
A1ReconTJ-: Isn't there something called NVidia Prime which allows to set which gpu to use between intel/nvidia ? I had set that to inel back when i was using Unity. Could this be because of that?14:34
ZeZuoptimus14:34
TJ-MacroMan: oh that is easy! someone has previously used debconf to set the default GRUB install device incorrectly as a partition, rather than a raw disk. do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and you should be able to see what was selected, and change it to the correct raw disk14:34
TJ-A1Recon: on your system you've got bbswitch (BumbleBee)14:35
MacroManTJ-: Ah, it was selected for all partitions. No wonder there was an error.14:35
MacroManThank you14:35
TJ-A1Recon: it's possible the prime change is related, yes. I've always stayed away from those hybrid systems so not personally familiar with it14:36
MacroManTJ-: How should it be set when I have a RAID0? On the raid mount point itself?14:37
TJ-MacroMan: if it is a RAID-1 mdadm mirror then you can select each raw disk that is part of the mirror (assuming the entire disks are mirrored, not just partitions)14:37
ZeZu xrandr --setprovideroutputsource modesetting NVIDIA-014:37
A1ReconTJ-: Also keep in mind that this problem(xrandr gamma not detected) doesn't happen all the time. But once it happens there's a good chance that it will only be solved if i restart the system.14:37
TJ-MacroMan: on the /dev/mdX device *if* the RAID covers then entire physical drive. If not, the underlying /dev/sdX14:38
ZeZuI think xrandr just says that if it's not connected to the driver14:38
nisankhindiaA1Recon: Check What Graphics Card You’ve Got : lspci -k | grep -A 2 -i "VGA" , Check What Graphics Card You Laptop is Using : system-settings - details , Install Nvidia Graphics Card Driver : software & updates window. Click the Additional Drivers tab. You can see what driver is being used for Nvidia card (Nouveau by default) and a list of proprietary drivers. . run command : nvidia-settings14:38
MacroManTJ-: It was on /dev/md0 that it complained.14:38
TJ-A1Recon: from the 'dmesg' output (at the end ) it shows the nvidia driver unloading because bbswitch is disabling the discrete GPU - that is likely the problem14:38
TJ-MacroMan: ahhh, so go for the underlying boot disk then. If you cannot identify it immediately Ctrl+C out and identify it by looking at the partition/boot layout/config14:39
nisankhindiaA1recond: select the GPU you would like to use ( if you are using unity )14:39
MacroManOK, I've got it now. Thank you14:39
A1Reconnisankhindia: $ pastebinit  <(lspci -k | grep -A 2 -i "VGA") http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ByMgDW8ZQ4/14:40
TJ-A1Recon: excuse me whilst i take delivery of a lorry load of Sheep :)14:40
nisankhindiaA1recon: open terminal and type command : nvidia-settings14:41
nisankhindiaA1Recon: open terminal and type command : nvidia-settings14:41
A1Reconguys i need to go outside for 30 minutes....its a medical emergency. Sorry. If you can hold on for 30 minutes. i will do that "nvidia-settings"14:41
A1Reconnisankhindia: it runs the NVIDIA x server14:43
A1Reconwhat info do you want from there?14:43
nisankhindiaNvidia X Server Settings from Unity Dash. Alternatively, you can issue this command to open it.  nvidia-settings , select Intel : sudo prime-select intel14:43
nisankhindiaA1Recon: switch to nvidia at any time command sudo prime-select nvidia / swicth to intel at anytime sudo prime-select intel14:44
ZeZuIf the driver didn't load,  he may not have those options14:44
ZeZuI only had general info and profiles14:44
TJ-ZeZu: have you solved your issue ?14:46
ZeZuMore sidestepped it,  got nouveau working14:46
A1Reconnisankhindia: TJ-: What should i do now? Should i remove bumblebee (bbswitch) since that might be causing the problem ?14:47
dwigtonAny idea where I can find the color values for the gnome terminal white-on-black theme? I want to use the same scheme on tty.14:49
TJ-A1Recon: not a good idea to blindly remove things. Better to identify the cas14:50
TJ-A1Recon: ... the cause and solve it14:50
nisankhindiaA1Recon: if you think so depending upon your system situation than please report a bug over here https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues14:50
nisankhindiaA1Recon: according to some details available in bumblebee developers talk and discussion when using Nouveau you don't need bumblebee14:52
ZeZuI thought he was using nvidia*14:52
ZeZuwhich is why he has the same drm/card0 not found,  drm/card1 can't open error14:52
nisankhindiaA1Recon: directly copy paste what they saying :: If you remove Bumblebee and install nouveau, you can make applications render on the Nvidia GPU by enabling PRIME. Can for example be done with:  DRI_PRIME=1 glxgears  That has less overhead than "optirun glxgears", technically it works in a completely different way. This "PRIME" rendering method is however not available with the Nvidia driver (Nvidia proprietary driver only displa14:52
TJ-A1Recon: lets check what is installed for the switcher: "pastebinit <( apt list --installed bumblebe* bbswitch* )"14:52
glitchdtrying to setup a particular sudo command to run without having to enter a password for it, but even after using "sudo visudo" and adding the command in the correct format, its still asking for a password. i had this setup and working perfectly in 16.04. and i made the exact same changes in this install of 18.04, but just cant get it to work. any advice?14:53
A1ReconTJ-: $ pastebinit <( apt list --installed bumblebe* bbswitch* )  WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HcfWwYxKqs/14:54
blackflowglitchd: pastebin the sudoers line?14:54
glitchdblackflow, sure 1 sec14:54
TJ-A1Recon: the core of your issue is, I think, "bbswitch: disabling discrete graphics" from dmesg14:54
glitchdblackflow, https://pastebin.com/cK8AkiC514:55
TJ-nisankhindia: do you know if the "bumblebee" package is *required* ? its contents look likely, but A1Recon doesn't have it14:56
nisankhindiaTJ: i have pasted the peice of IRC chat that bubblebee team told me14:56
blackflowglitchd: is there exempt_group set in sudoers? are you member of that group?14:57
TJ-A1Recon: show us "grep -E 'Remove|Purge' /var/log/apt/history.log"14:57
A1Reconi have googled about this problem. Couldn't find much on Ubuntu 16.04. Found a guy with linuxmint and ATI Radeon GPU having the same problem that was solved.14:57
TJ-A1Recon: ^^ wrap that in pastebinit <( ... )14:58
glitchd_trying to setup a particular sudo command to run without having to enter a password for it, but even after using "sudo visudo" and adding the command in the correct format, its still asking for a password. i had this setup and working perfectly in 16.04. and i made the exact same changes in this install of 18.04, but just cant get it to work. any advice?14:59
A1ReconTJ-: No matches for that command. So no output.14:59
EriC^^glitchd_: can you run 'readlink -f $(which upd)' ?15:00
blackflowglitchd: is there exempt_group set in sudoers? are you member of that group?15:00
glitchd_EriC^^, 'readlink -f $(which upd)'15:01
glitchd_readlink -f $(which upd): command not found15:01
glitchd_glitchd@probook:~$15:01
nisankhindiaA1Recon: what this says sudo systemd status nvidia-fallback15:03
evilytwistedi know this question isnt exactly ubuntu specific but i get my repos from ubuntu, im on linuxmint 19, whenever i do sudo apt-get install X i see Get:91 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe i386 libvulkan1 i386 1.1.70+dfsg1-1 [99.5 kB]15:06
evilytwisted why bionic? i thought ubuntu was canocal or something15:06
A1Reconnisankhindia: You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.15:06
TJ-A1Recon: nisankhindia I've been digging deeper. the "(EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied" is caused by an ABI mis-match in the nvidia driver vs the xorg server.15:06
A1Reconi was using pastebinit15:06
TJ-A1Recon: so... let's see what packages have been upgraded recently: "pastebinit <( tail -n 500 /var/log/apt/history.log )"15:07
glitchd_blackflow, i have no idea15:07
nisankhindiaBut i think ARecon is using unity ... and i am just carrying information to nvidia developer IRC chat room15:07
blackflowglitchd_: apparently, it is important WHERE in the sudoers file the line is. add below %sudo definition15:07
blackflowsudo sucks15:07
A1ReconTJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQQTSgN7DV/15:09
A1Reconnisankhindia: $ sudo systemd status nvidia-fallback Excess arguments.15:10
TJ-A1Recon: nisankhindia How about an apparmor issue? it could be blocking access15:10
glitchd_blackflow, ughh....now there is an error and i cant figure out where the error is15:10
blackflowglitchd_: ideally, add that to a standalone file in sudoers.d, chmod it 444 it'll work15:10
blackflowglitchd_: did you use visudo?15:10
glitchd_blackflow, yes15:11
TJ-A1Recon: can you show us "pastebinit <( grep apparmor /var/log/kern.log )"15:11
blackflowthen what error is it?15:11
blackflowglitchd_: then what error is it?15:11
TJ-glitchd_: can you show us the line added to sudoers?15:11
glitchd_blackflow, its saying there is an error on line 29 and 3115:11
nisankhindiaA1Recon: check if your nvidia package is : nvidia-driver-39015:11
blackflowglitchd_: oh visudo does?15:11
glitchd_TJ-, i just removed the line in an attempt to fix the sudoers file15:11
blackflowit won't commit sudoers file if there are errors15:11
tomreyn!mint | evilytwisted15:11
ubottuevilytwisted: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)15:11
qwebirc22283Greetings, My rail/app on Freerdp recently broke when it updated to 2.0.0-dev4; can anyone help me in reverting to 2.0.0-rc2?15:12
nisankhindiaA1Recon : if so than as Ubuntu launchpad details it requires few changes in configuration to work with15:12
TJ-nisankhindia: A1Recon it is nvidia-384, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GQJRjS8d3b/15:12
A1ReconTJ-: One thing that i have noticed is if i don't get the list of "[OK] xyz started " during startup then i encounter this xrandr problem15:12
glitchd_blackflow, yes, when i attempt to close the sudo file it tells me there is an error on lines 29 and 3215:12
evilytwistedYES im aware of that tomreyn  thats why i asked a very specific question.15:12
evilytwistedi thought ubuntu was canocal or however its spelled15:12
evilytwistednot bionic.15:12
blackflowglitchd_: right, it won't allow you to commit a faulty file. what's on line 29?15:12
tomreynevilytwisted: my point is you're asking in the wrong place if you're not using ubuntu. we support ubuntu users.15:12
glitchd_blackflow, here is my whole sudoers filehttps://pastebin.com/Lt8zcVwr15:13
glitchd_blackflow, https://pastebin.com/Lt8zcVwr15:13
blackflowglitchd_: yah that line 29 is wrong15:13
evilytwistedYes i get that, and i understand that. thats again WHY I asked a very specific question about UBUNTU15:13
evilytwistednot other os.15:13
blackflowglitchd_: 28 and 29 look like you half-pasted from somwhere, remove them15:13
nisankhindiaA1Recon: better suggested to rise an issue here https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/new15:13
TJ-evilytwisted: "bionic beaver" is the codename of Ubuntu 18.0415:13
evilytwistedTJ-:  thank you so much, see was that so hard?15:14
A1ReconTJ-: nisankhindia is it possible to get the output of this "[ok] xyz started... [ok] snap created" screen on terminal right now?I think its output from some kind of systems-check progra.15:14
TJ-glitchd_: line 32 should start with a #15:14
nisankhindiaA1Recond:  logs can be found at /var/log path15:14
nisankhindiaA1recon: cd /var/log15:15
blackflowglitchd_: that too15:15
TJ-glitchd_: line 29 should start with a % --- but that would cancel out line  2615:15
evilytwistedTJ-:  is ubuntu still canocal or however its spelled?15:15
A1Reconnisankhindia: what all command outputs should i include on that issue post, so that it becomes clear for any devs?15:15
TJ-evilytwisted: Ubuntu is a trademark of Canonical Ltd, the company behind Ubuntu distro15:15
glitchd_blackflow, TJ- line 29 is blank, what should be there?15:16
nisankhindiaA1Recon: just put the information that you have for now , later on they will guide you through the process15:16
TJ-glitchd_: look at your pastebin - line 29 has code15:16
evilytwistedah ty15:16
nisankhindiaA1Recon: Or you can go to devtalk nvidia portal too for forum discussion15:16
TJ-A1Recon: can you show us "pastebinit <( grep apparmor /var/log/kern.log )"15:18
blackflowglitchd_: talking about what you pasted. remove lines 28 and 29, and line 32 must start with #   so it must be   #include /etc/sudoers.d15:19
A1Reconhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TfQH2CY9tN/ TJ-15:19
qwebirc22283Greetings;  I pull xFreeRDP2-x11 from Remmina's PPA.  The most recent update pushed my freerdp version from rc2 to dev4 which broke it for me.  Anyone know how I can revert?15:20
nisankhindiaA1Recon: i can only suggest you at this position to rise an issue over there , not exactly this but similar issues has been resolved in past for fedora and opensuse etc works at https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/nisankh/altrepo_bumblebee/fedora-29-x86_64/15:20
nisankhindiaA1Recon: have a great time ahead ,time to go offline15:20
A1Reconnisankhindia: thans mate15:20
A1Reconthanks dhanyawad15:21
TJ-A1Recon: no signs of apparmor denied messages affecting /dev/dri there15:21
glitchd_blackflow, i got it. i just remembered that i added line 29.15:21
glitchd_blackflow, i was trying to get a particular command to run as sudo without needing to enter a password, the same way i had it in my previous install. i found that line while doing some research and trying different things.15:22
blackflowglitchd_: which one, 29?15:22
glitchd_blackflow, yes i believe so, unless im remembering wrong15:22
blackflowglitchd_: well that is wrong syntax. sudo group must start with %, and anyway that on itself does not allow passwordless sudo15:23
blackflowglitchd_: so anyway, you got that working?15:23
glitchd_blackflow, nope.15:23
tachikomasHello ubuntu channel. Having some issue with 18.04. It was a previous install in 16.04, french language, and i wanted to switch to english, and now, part of my system is in both language, unless i restart login trough systemd and it switch to english15:24
tachikomasany way i can fix this proble ?15:24
tachikomasproblem15:24
glitchd_blackflow, this is the line i added in my 16.04 install and it worked perfectly.15:24
glitchd_glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/update15:24
blackflowglitchd_: okay, put this   https://pastebin.com/cK8AkiC5    in  a file in /etc/sudoers.d/15:24
TJ-glitchd_: I set those up using multiple files in /etc/sudoers.d/ as in 'lvm' has "Cmnd_Alias LVM = /sbin/pvs, /sbin/vgs, /sbin/lvs, /sbin/pvdisplay, /sbin/vgdisplay, /sbin/lvdisplay" and 'tj' has "%sudo ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: LVM, APT, KERNEL, DD"15:24
blackflowglitchd_: right, put that line in a file in /etc/sudoers.d/   and   chmod 444 that file15:24
tachikomasA second thing is it dont detect the lidbutton on my laptop (ThinkPad X230), acpi always said open. But it's working fine on any other system ;)15:25
TJ-glitchd_: created using "sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/lvm" ...15:25
blackflowTJ-: why aliases? sounds a bit... convoluted15:26
TJ-blackflow: because I have many Aliases for different sets, makes it easy to deploy to multiple systems that use different sets15:26
blackflowI see15:26
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glitchd_blackflow, ok so i made the file in "/etc/sudoers.d/upd", and inside i put the line "glitchd ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd", but its still not working15:32
blackflowglitchd_: did you chmod it?15:32
glitchd_blackflow, im so confused as to why this worked without a hitch in 16.04 but refuses to work in 18.04.15:32
glitchd_blackflow, chmod it to what? 777?15:33
blackflowglitchd_: perhaps actually READ my posts to you? I mentioned it TWICE now. and it's written in the README in sudoers.d which I wholeheartedly recommend you to READ.15:33
EriC^^glitchd_: try 'readlink -f $(which upd)'  without the single quotes15:34
glitchd_blackflow, sry i completely missed that line where you said to use 44415:35
EoflaOEhi BluesKaj15:35
blackflowglitchd_: also read the README, it mentions there the reasons15:35
glitchd_EriC^^, :~$ readlink -f $(which upd)15:35
BluesKajhi EoflaOE15:36
glitchd_EriC^^, * :~$ readlink -f $(which upd)15:36
EriC^^glitchd_: ?15:36
glitchd_EriC^^, im not sure why its not pasting the whole line15:36
EriC^^paste the output only15:36
EriC^^it's not pasting cause it starts with a "/"15:37
glitchd_EriC^^, /usr/bin/upd15:37
EriC^^aha ok15:37
EriC^^thanks15:37
glitchd_EriC^^, sry about that..15:37
EriC^^no worries :)15:37
EriC^^i had an issue once where it kept asking for a password when the command was a link to another file, guess it's not the case here though15:38
glitchd_blackflow, so oddly enough, i just decided to run "sudo upd" and it ran the command without asking for a password15:38
glitchd_EriC^^, ^^^^15:38
blackflowglitchd_: oddly? :)  nah. this is proper set up15:38
glitchd_blackflow, in my 16.04 setup, all i had to do was type "upd" and it ran the command, whats different here?15:39
blackflowthe only odd thing actually is apparent order of entries in sudoers. for which I found no meaningful explanation in the manpage. in that if you define users before groups it won't work15:39
blackflowbut tehn root is defined before %sudo and %admin and I have no clue why that is then15:39
blackflowglitchd_: sorry what do you mean?15:39
blackflowglitchd_: passwordless _sudo_ requires "sudo" prefix on commands.     sudo upd   for example   (assuming upd is in PATH)15:40
blackflowif you only typed "upd" with no "sudo", then sudo isn't involved at all, or upd itself runs sudo commands inside (but then, what, calling itself?)15:41
EriC^^maybe you had an alias for upd, alias upd='sudo upd '15:41
blackflowgood catch15:41
glitchd_blackflow, ok, in my last install, which was 16.04, i had the line "glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd" as the last line in my sudoers file. when i ran the command all i had to type was "upd" and it worked, i didnt have to  type "sudo upd". what is different now?15:41
EriC^^note the space at the end is important there15:42
blackflowglitchd_: nothing is, read what EriC^^ just said. or there was some other setup.15:42
glitchd_EriC^^, i dont remember setting up an alias for it, but you may be right i guess.15:42
glitchd_EriC^^, i added that line to my ".bash_aliases" file and now it works without needing to type sudo. thank you very much.15:45
glitchd_blackflow, thank you also for all the help, much appreciated fellas!15:45
glitchd_EriC^^, just for knowledge sake, what is the meaning or purpose of the space at the end of the line that i put in the .bash_aliases file?15:46
EriC^^glitchd_: oh, i think i got stuff kind of mixed up, it's usually used so that if you have an alias it still works with sudo15:47
EriC^^it's used like alias sudo='sudo '   so that bash keeps on substituting the aliases after sudo15:48
EriC^^(more info here https://askubuntu.com/questions/22037/aliases-not-available-when-using-sudo )15:48
glitchd_EriC^^, gotcha, thank you again.15:48
EriC^^no problem :)15:49
glitchd_adios gents!15:49
EoflaOEI am on Lubuntu 18.04 LTS. I have a D-Link DWA-121 mini Wireless USB adapter, and it's using the rtl8192cu driver. The problem is that the blue LED is solid on instead of continuously blinking when there is activity or not. I went to 8192cu-fixes and it said that it's obsolete and that I should use the *new* rtl8xxxu driver that is initially introduced in Linux 4.4. How can I run that *new* driver instead of that buggy driver where the LEDs don't blink?15:57
lotus|NUCEoflaOE: your kernel version please?15:58
EoflaOELinux 4.15.0-36-generic15:58
lotus|NUCEoflaOE: ok tnx, any errors on your syslog branching your adapter?15:59
EoflaOENo errors. It connects find to my network and I can achieve at full speed16:01
EoflaOEfine*16:01
lotus|NUCEoflaOE: its just a led problem?16:03
EoflaOEYes. I want it to blink continuously16:04
tomreynEoflaOE: file a bug (if there isn't one already): ubuntu-bug linux16:11
EoflaOEtomreyn: I will file if I have tested the other rtl8xxxu.16:12
lotus|NUCEoflaOE: there are some realtek githubs out there to test firmware/drivers from aswell16:12
EoflaOElotus|NUC: Can you give me the most stable rtl8192cu driver that make the LED blink?16:14
lotus|NUCEoflaOE: follow tomreyn's advice, go for the bug help yourself and the community this way16:14
EoflaOEOk. THanks16:15
lotus|NUCEoflaOE: feel free after the bug, to link it here we can take a look, give advice16:15
EoflaOEOK. It's being filed.16:15
lotus|NUCthank you for taking your time EoflaOE16:16
EoflaOEYou are welcome16:16
coconutquestions about multi media remotes, can the be asked here too?16:16
coconuti am searching for an supported one16:16
tomreyncoconut: it's not just a matter of what the ubuntu OS (linux) supports, but also a matter of what the application(s) you plan to use can handle. Example for kodi: https://kodi.wiki/view/Remote_controls16:21
tomreyni'd start by deciding which applications to use, then find a remote (and remoting technology) they all support and you like best, then see whether it's supported by linux (by this point chances are it will be).16:22
coconutthanks tomreyn :)  i want to use on a media center, don't know which one yet, but as long as it's open source.16:23
coconutoh it will be even. Heh this is a shiny day today.16:23
EoflaOElotus|NUC: It's filed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/179742016:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1797420 in linux (Ubuntu) "rtl8192cu driver and D-Link DWA-121 USB WiFi dongle LED issues - Ubuntu 18.04" [Undecided,New]16:31
TJ-EoflaOE: I believe the driver you were told about is "r8192u_usb" which is in Ubuntu (comes from the kernel staging tree)16:36
EoflaOETJ-: Is that an appropriate driver for rtl8192cu WiFi USB dongles?16:37
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apawlI have a macbook and ubuntu running in a tower upstairs. Is there an equivalent of RDP I can run so that I can remote desktop into the ubuntu machine?16:42
apawl*An Ubuntu analogue for RDP, I mean.16:42
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TJ-EoflaOE: I'm not entirely clear, but that is a/the rtl8192u I think was referred to. Can you show us the USB ID of the wifi device via "lsusb" ? We just need the vendor:product ID hex numbers16:44
EoflaOETJ-: 2001:330816:45
TJ-apawl: freerdp2-shadow-x11 as a server will support RDP, or there is VNC via several packages. try "apt-cache search -n vnc" for a list16:49
TJ-EoflaOE: seems like that driver doesn't (yet) support your device: "alias:          usb:v2001p3301d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*" only shows 330116:50
TJ-EoflaOE: however it is possible to test it by manually binding the device to that driver16:51
EoflaOETJ-: Thanks. What about r8192cu_usb? Is it supported for my dongle?16:54
Vuurdraak_hi all, q: how do i install the source code of the (pre) installed ffmpeg package inside ubuntu 14.04, so that i can compile obs against it with nvenc support ?16:57
TJ-EoflaOE: Actually, there are TWO drivers that both claim the alias 2001:3308. Have you tried the rtl8xxxu driver by unloading the rtl8192cu driver and loading rtl8xxxu ?16:57
EoflaOEtj-: No. I will try that driver, but how do I load that driver instead of the rtl8192cu driver?16:58
tomreyn!vnc apawl16:59
tomreyn!vnc | apawl16:59
ubottuapawl: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX16:59
TJ-EoflaOE: "sudo modprobe -r rtl8192cu && sudo modprobe rtl8xxxu"17:00
TJ-EoflaOE: if you find that better you can 'blacklist' the rtl8192cu driver to prevent it being auto-loaded17:01
tomreynapawl: that's assuming the ubuntu runs with a graphical desktop, otherwise you'd just use ssh. if you'll go with the VNC protocol, have a look at the vinagre and vino client / server17:01
EoflaOEOK TJ-. I will see about that driver.17:01
Vuurdraak_oww i finaly found an awnser with a search engine :') -> Use the command apt-get source <package> (don't use sudo with it) to download the source of a package.17:02
TJ-Vuurdraak_: correct17:02
EoflaOEVuurdraak_: Right, but then you have to download "compile" dependencies by sudo apt-get build-dep <package>.17:03
TJ-Vuurdraak_: *but* that assumes that you've enabled the deb-src entries in /etc/apt/sources.list17:03
Vuurdraak_mmm :')17:03
TJ-Vuurdraak_: you can do that with "sudo add-apt-repository  -s universe"17:04
Vuurdraak_i have never bothered for the source of stuff until now17:04
Vuurdraak_k thanks17:04
TJ-Vuurdraak_: it is unusual to need it17:04
TJ-Vuurdraak_: are you aware how to build a debian/ubuntu package?17:04
Vuurdraak_i tried to compile obs against a self compiled ffmpeg and it sort of halve works but i dont get audio when i stream to twitch, and i see somebody say "hey nvenc is standard in the debian/ubuntu installed ffmpeg"17:05
TJ-Vuurdraak_: after installing the build-depends you should, in the base directory of the source, use "fakeroot debian/rules binary" that will create the .deb files in the *parent* directory (e.g. "ls ../*.deb" will show them)17:06
Vuurdraak_and he just compiled obs against the standard installed ffmpeg so i wanted to try to do that17:06
Vuurdraak_okay i will go try to mentioned steps17:07
r3r57ww17:07
Dbuggeris there a simple way to make Ubuntu auto-connect to a VPN on boot?17:08
EoflaOETJ-: Same LED not blinking with rtl8xxxu17:09
EoflaOEDbugger: Open "Network Connections" on "System Settings"17:12
TJ-Vuurdraak_: is the OBS in Ubuntu not good enough?17:13
Vuurdraak_no17:13
DbuggerEoflaOE, i do not see anything close to System Connections17:13
Vuurdraak_you need to compile it your self else you do  not have NVENC support17:13
Vuurdraak_iaw rendering of video by the gpu17:14
Vuurdraak_to stream17:14
Vuurdraak_or record17:14
EoflaOEDbugger: Which ubuntu version are you in?17:14
Vuurdraak_i get an error if i ask for ffmepg source :(17:14
Dbugger18.0417:14
Vuurdraak_E: Unable to find a source package for ffmpeg17:14
EriC^^Vuurdraak_: do you have the sources enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ?17:15
Vuurdraak_EriC^^, i did do a ""sudo add-apt-repository  -s universe"17:15
EoflaOEDbugger: Which VPN provider do you use?17:15
Vuurdraak_but i already had that repository, do i need to do something else ?17:16
DbuggerEoflaOE, IPVanish17:16
Vuurdraak_do i need to manulay edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?17:16
TJ-Vuurdraak_: you mean you have the NVENC libraries installed and obs-studio wasn't built to use them (no plugin) ?17:16
Vuurdraak_i have managed to build obs with nvenc support against a static self build ffmpeg17:16
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Vuurdraak_and got it properly working while recording to disk17:17
Vuurdraak_only when i stream i dont have adio17:17
Vuurdraak_audio*17:17
hggdhVuurdraak_: I can download it (via apt source ffmpeg). Did you run apt update?17:17
EoflaOEDbugger: Try following the steps on https://www.htpcguides.com/configure-ipvanish-openvpn-on-debian-ubuntu/17:18
Vuurdraak_soi did an apt update17:19
DbuggerEoflaOE, The problem is not connecting... I want it to connect ON BOOT17:19
DbuggerAuto-connect17:19
Vuurdraak_apt source ffmpeg gives: E: Invalid operation source17:19
TJ-Vuurdraak_: I'm just looking at obs-studio source; it should be trivial to enable building the nvenc plugin. As far as I can tell we already have the libraries it needs: "libnvidia-encode-390" etc17:20
Vuurdraak_ apt-get source ffmpeg17:20
Vuurdraak_Reading package lists... Done17:20
Vuurdraak_Building dependency tree17:20
Vuurdraak_Reading state information... Done17:20
Vuurdraak_E: Unable to find a source package for ffmpeg17:20
core7I just got my 2080 TI cards from nvidia - Ubuntu 16.04 - how do i install the 400 series drivers? Is there a PPA that can help?17:20
TJ-Vuurdraak_: "apt-get" not "apt" when using "source"17:20
Vuurdraak_yes the normaly installed ffmpeg from ubuntu already is compiled with nvenc support17:20
Vuurdraak_i checked that17:20
Vuurdraak_all sources are in the universe repository ?17:21
TJ-Vuurdraak_: strange why that nvenc plugin isn't built; the ffmpeg plugin is there ( " obs-plugins: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/obs-plugins/obs-ffmpeg.so " )17:22
EoflaOEVuurdraak_: Yes. Enable all source repositories including universe and update package lists using 'sudo apt-get update'17:22
EoflaOEDbugger: I am looking...17:22
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Vuurdraak_my problem at the moment is that when i compile obs i need the ffmpeg source code as it compiles against that @tj17:23
Vuurdraak_im searching for what other repositories might contain the ffmpeg source code as i gess its not in universe17:24
lolcat-007why i cant transfers files from my desktop to  the external hard drive it seeam permission issue17:24
lolcat-007any help17:24
lolcat-007?17:24
ioriaVuurdraak_, do you you this line enabled 'deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic-updates universe' ?17:25
blackflowlolcat-007: what's the error you're getting?17:25
ioria*have17:25
TJ-Vuurdraak_: the obs-ffmpeg plugin DOES contain the nvenc code17:26
lolcat-007blackflow: the drive is already mount it but when i try to copy file it doesnt let me17:26
TJ-Vuurdraak_: see the "plugins/obs-ffmpeg/CMakeLists.txt" file17:26
Vuurdraak_i got obs already running with nvenc, so i got all the nvidia stuff etc up17:27
Vuurdraak_only i got a problem with it streaming :D17:27
blackflowlolcat-007: do you know how to use the command line? can you pastebin the output of  `stat /path/to/directory/that/you/copy/INTO`  ?17:27
Vuurdraak_i think its missing stuff if i follow a script to build all of it, as x264 no longer works in my own build17:28
Vuurdraak_thats why i wanted to build it against the regular ffmpeg installed in ubuntu , but for that i need to install its source code17:28
lolcat-007blackflow: i new in linux and that command you suggest is advance to me17:28
Vuurdraak_mm deb-src command not found :')17:29
Vuurdraak_give me a moment i wanted to ad all the repositories brb17:29
EoflaOEI have to sleep. goodbye17:30
ioriaVuurdraak_, you need 'bionic-updates universe ' enabled17:30
Vuurdraak_how do i enabled that ?17:31
ioriaVuurdraak_, in souces.list17:32
ioriaVuurdraak_,    /etc/apt/sources.list17:32
Vuurdraak_k i think i got it some entries had a #17:34
Vuurdraak_lol :( noop no source for ffmpeg17:35
ioriaVuurdraak_, plase paste it17:35
Vuurdraak_past bin it ?17:36
ioriayes17:36
Vuurdraak_https://pastebin.com/StmcjWJh17:37
ioriatrusty ?17:37
Vuurdraak_yes im on 14.0417:37
ioriano ffmpeg on trusty , sorry17:38
Vuurdraak_:O17:38
Vuurdraak_xD17:38
ioriayou can use other sorces17:38
TJ-Vuurdraak_: In the ffmpeg source, ./configure, it seems to require the CUDA libraries/headers to build nvEnc support: nvenc_deps="cuda"17:38
Vuurdraak_so its the avlib mascarading as ffmpeg17:38
cyberspectreCan someone recommend a good step-by-step tutorial on how to enable image hotlinking via .htaccess file in /var/www/html?17:38
cyberspectreI thought it was as easy as creating the .htaccess file, but apparently, it isn't that simple17:39
Vuurdraak_TJ-, i have no problems with cudo or compiling ffmpeg my self, but i get a halve broken halve working obs, who does have nvenc support17:39
tomreyncyberspectre: can you explain "image hotlinking"?17:39
Vuurdraak_cuda*17:39
TJ- cyberspectre it depends what level of htaccess support you've enabled, as to whether .htaccess is read at all, or what statements in it are accepted17:40
cyberspectretomreyn, the machine in question is a server I'd like to use to host assets for a website (on another server)17:40
Vuurdraak_does ubuntu 18.04 have ffmpeg build in ?.?17:40
cyberspectrecurrently, it refuses requests from image tags, for instance17:40
Vuurdraak_maybe i should do an os upgrade idk17:40
TJ-Vuurdraak_: yes, the projects switched back to ffmpeg being the primary17:41
cyberspectreVuurdraak_, isn't ffmpeg part of restricted extras?17:41
TJ-!info ffmpeg17:41
ubottuffmpeg (source: ffmpeg): Tools for transcoding, streaming and playing of multimedia files. In component universe, is optional. Version 7:3.4.4-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 1567 kB, installed size 2266 kB17:41
ioriaVuurdraak_, i suggest asm + ffmpeg source17:41
Vuurdraak_its avlib i think on trusty pretending to be ffmpeg, but the package installs as ffmpeg or maybe not ? , maybe i should find the source for avlib ?17:42
tomreyncyberspectre: ".htaccess files" suggestyou are inquiring about apache httpd, correct? which ubuntu version is this? how are http requests forwarded to this webserver, or do they end up there directly from end users?17:42
TJ-!info libavcodec5717:43
ubottulibavcodec57 (source: ffmpeg): FFmpeg library with de/encoders for audio/video codecs - runtime files. In component universe, is optional. Version 7:3.4.4-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 4453 kB, installed size 13585 kB17:43
Vuurdraak_yeh my problem is i already compiled obs against a downloaded source of ffmpeg, only i was guessing cause its static, it somehow has a problem but i dont know what that problem ealy is, thats why i wanted to try to build against the standard ffmpeg in ubuntu hoping that obs then found other missing stuff17:43
cyberspectretomreyn, it's ubuntu server 16.04.5 LTS. Everything is stock, as installed, at the moment. All I've done is created the .htaccess file in /var/www/html17:43
Vuurdraak_as i got obs complete working with nvenc, but it crashes on using x26417:44
Vuurdraak_some somehow stuff is missing that i dont understand17:44
ioriaVuurdraak_, check the build log17:44
tomreyncyberspectre: by default (stock) no web server is installed, did you install one?17:44
Vuurdraak_if it only would have also streamed in nvenc with audio enabled im golden but it streams with nvenc but i got no audio on twitch when it does its realy strange17:44
TJ-Vuurdraak_: in 18.04 at least, ffmpeg's ./configure script indicates it'll automatically build in suport for nvenc if suda is available - which I'd think would then allow obs-studio to also work (as packages built from the Ubuntu archive source)17:44
Vuurdraak_true17:45
Vuurdraak_yeh maybe i got to first try to dig in to the build logs as there seems no source17:45
cyberspectretomreyn, oh, I think it comes pre-installed because it's an amazon ec2 server17:45
TJ-Vuurdraak_: I doubtt nvenc is responsible for the audio - surely that just offloads the video encoding side to an Nvidia GPU? what audio encoder are you trying to use/is required by twitch ?17:46
Vuurdraak_im guessing aac17:46
Vuurdraak_but not sure , when i download a twitch file the audio is called mp417:46
TJ-Vuurdraak_: might be a good idea to check that for certain; never guess :)17:46
TJ-Vuurdraak_: mpeg4 will be the container; check what is within it. something like VLC can show that17:47
Vuurdraak_oh no wait it does say MPEG-4 AAC17:48
Vuurdraak_so yeh twitch is aac17:48
Vuurdraak_i thought when i rec itas also aac though mmmm17:48
TJ-cyberspectre: do you have an "AllowOverride ..." statement in the apache2 default site vhost for the <Directory> ?17:48
Vuurdraak_i killed obs i need to rebuild it first and see what happens :'D17:49
TJ-Vuurdraak_: OK, so in theory, if you're recording using aac the audio should pass-through rather than being re-encoded17:49
cyberspectreTJ-, do you mean I should set "AllowOverride" to ALL under /var/www/html in the file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?17:49
tomreyn_cyberspectre: i just got disconnected, please consider repeating anything you may have posted after i wrote: <tomreyn> cyberspectre: okay, so what happens when you try to access an image file from a client which is remote to this server, using the http protocol?17:50
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TJ-cyberspectre: usually it'd go in the per-site conf file /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf17:51
TJ-cyberspectre: note it only works in a Directory context: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#allowoverride17:52
cyberspectretomreyn_, if I try it with an img tag (which I assume makes an http request), it shows up as a broken image and the dev tools console reports "net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED" on that item17:52
cyberspectreTJ-, the tutorial I was reading told me to do that in both places, though I couldn't see where I should do it in 000-default.conf. I'll take another look, hang on17:53
TJ-cyberspectre: it's better to do it on a per-site basis in that it keeps it modular. For a server with a single site it doesn't make that much difference, but as you'll likely only edit the site it makes sense to keep all commands in one place17:54
cyberspectreTJ-, https://pastebin.com/KypsvpB1 this is what the file looks like right now. Could you show me where I should enter new information?17:56
tomreynnet::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED suggests that no tcp connection to the server you are trying to make work could be established. what happens when you use a web browser to connect to the IP address of the webserver?17:59
TJ-cyberspectre: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TCNDX5wvRr/17:59
TJ-cyberspectre: are you trying to use a link to an image on ANOTHER SERVER in your HTML files? because the error tomreyn shows there is because the OTHER SERVER is refusing the connection - probably preventing the link because the HTML page isn't being served from the same server18:00
TJ-cyberspectre: that is a common defense against deep links18:01
cyberspectreTJ-, that is correct. The website is hosted on shopify. The ubuntu server is for assets only18:01
cyberspectreTJ-, tomreyn , accessing files from the web browser works fine18:02
cyberspectrethey just don't work in img tags18:02
tomreyncyberspectre: well, this erro message says that whatever web browser tried to connect to the webserver hosting the images wasn't abel to setup a TCP / HTTP connection to it.18:03
tomreynso it looks like a more fundamental issue.18:04
tomreyncyberspectre: note this could also be a configuration issue on the client / the network configuration at its site, it doesn't *have* to be a server side issue.18:06
lolcat-007blackflow: i fix the issue18:06
blackflowlolcat-007: great!18:07
lolcat-007blackflow: i just change user and group with chown18:07
blackflowlolcat-007: that's what I was aiming at, but starting with checking the uids via `stat`18:07
lolcat-007and then i was be able to write in the external hard drive18:07
cyberspectrehmm18:09
cyberspectreoooooh... that's interesting18:09
cyberspectreIt is a shopify problem. So there's nothing wrong with the server18:10
cyberspectrehttps://freakdesign.com.au/blogs/news/76831303-use-your-own-domain-instead-of-shopify-cdn-in-image-urls18:10
tomreyncyberspectre: this doesn't seem to discuss the use case you discussed here. but if it helps you, i'm glad you found a way forward.18:16
cyberspectretomreyn, I'm actually not certain it does18:16
cyberspectrebecause images from other domains do work18:16
tomreyncyberspectre: i kno't know how shopify works. i know how http and html works. but unless you're able / willing to share details i dont swee a way to help you there.18:18
tomreyncyberspectre: it may also be specific wnough to warrant asking your questions in #httpd (i think that's the apache http server channel, not certain)18:19
cyberspectreWell, images from at least one domain do work. Right now, I'm thinking it may have something to do with http vs https.  The console error says : GET https://ubuntuserverdomain.com/image.jpg  net:: ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED18:20
cyberspectrebut the ubuntu server domain is http:// not https://18:21
TJ-cyberspectre: well yes, if you haven't configured a TLS vhost on port 44318:21
cyberspectreyet the img tag in the html specifies http://, not https://18:21
TJ-cyberspectre: which browser?18:21
cyberspectreTJ-, chrome18:21
TJ-cyberspectre: I wonder if it is forcing upgrade to TLS18:22
TJ-cyberspectre: try with other browsers18:22
cyberspectreTJ-, here, this may help provide context18:24
cyberspectrehttps://nutrigold.com/blogs/articles/the-mighty-cranberry18:24
TJ-cyberspectre: shopify may be applying an STS header (Strict Transport Security)18:24
TJ-cyberspectre: is that your site? is this your http image link "http://nutrigold.info/avatars/ngavatar_paleobosslady.jpg" ?18:26
cyberspectreTJ-, yes18:27
cyberspectrethat is the image that's failing18:27
TJ-cyberspectre: I don't see any errors using Firefox18:27
cyberspectreTJ-, you see the image?18:27
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cyberspectreit looks like shopify does use HSTS, so would that cause the browser to request the image from my server via https instead of http?18:30
thanosit's a woman laughing.18:30
cyberspectreyes it's a woman laughing, but does it display correctly on the web page18:30
core7if i want to move /home from one disk to another - what is the easiest way to do this? Currently / has /home and is on one disk. I want to move all of this to another disk which is mounted on /data?18:32
cyberspectreAh. I just tried it on Edge and it does work in that browser. But firefox and any webkit browser (chrome, opera, vivaldi tried) don't display the image there. Maybe it has something to do with the way chrome deals with this HSTS18:33
TJ-cyberspectre: same with Firefox, it upgrades the request to HTTPS *but* if you request the file from the link shown in Page Info/Media, it displays it there18:34
JimBuntucore7, do you mean like cp -r /home /data ?18:34
cyberspectreTJ-, I really appreciate your assistance with this.18:34
stramwhat is the default sound server for ubuntu 18.04? Is it PulseAudio or ALSA? I uninstall pulseaudio* and now I seem to have no audio devices found in "Sound" under Settings18:34
TJ-stram: pulseaudio18:35
stramjesus christ18:35
TJ-nope, I'm just called God :)18:35
stramdocumentation is fucking awful18:35
TJ-!language stram18:35
core7JimBuntu: yes - but how do i tell ubuntu to now look at /data/home instead of /home - which i want to delete18:35
stramhttps://linuxhint.com/pulse_audio_sounds_ubuntu/ <-- i realize it's not an official article, but WTF18:35
stram"Ubuntu 18.04 LTS uses ALSA for sound management by default. You can easily replace it with PulseAudio sound server."18:36
tiggster79why would you uninstall pulseaudio?18:36
TJ-seems to be the blind leading the deaf !18:36
tiggster79didnt you check to see if pulseaudio was started before you blew it away?18:37
cyberspectreTJ-, so based on what I've learned here, I think the best solution is to use TLS on my ubuntu server. I will attempt to do that.18:38
JimBuntucore7, oh, I thought you were just moving the data, like into a new system. There are plenty of tutorials for migrating you /home in Ubuntu18:38
TJ-cyberspectre: looks like it, yes18:38
TJ-!info certbot | cyberspectre18:38
ubottucyberspectre: certbot (source: python-certbot): automatically configure HTTPS using Let's Encrypt. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.23.0-1 (bionic), package size 17 kB, installed size 51 kB18:38
core7JimBuntu: I first did a rysnc - so that i can copy /home into /data/home (used -av)18:40
core7JimBuntu: How do i tell ubuntu to not look at /home from "/" - and instead look at /data/home?18:40
TJ-core7: add an entry in /etc/fstab. Easiest if /data/home/ were a file-system in its own right. You'll have to bind-mount otherwise, requiring 2 entries in /etc/fstab18:43
JimBuntucore7, that would normally be done with usermod. Since you mentioned deleting, you would probably want to change the /etc/default/useradd file as well, so new users are given the new directory prefix, I'm not sure what else might need to be changed18:43
TJ-JimBuntu: oh, that's another way. Didn't think of simply altering the user $HOME :)18:44
TJ-JimBuntu: still going to need an fstab entry for mounting  /data/ though18:44
cyberspectreTJ-, done!18:46
cyberspectreThanks, pal. Certbot was cake.18:46
core7TJ-: in my case, I have another drive already mounted in which I am moving /home18:47
JimBuntucore7, right... but what happens when you reboot the machine?18:48
core7JimBuntu: I currently just copied the files - so it uses the /home right now18:48
rypervencheIt should just be an rsync and then a quick fix in fstab.18:48
rypervencheI would recommend not having a user logged in while you do it though, so you'd have to log out and log into the root user via a TTY to do that. And on Ubuntu you won't have a password directly to root, most likely.18:49
rypervenchecore7: I sent some useful info in a private message.18:51
TJ-easiest way is create another user, add them to sudo group, log-out as the regular user, switch to TTY, log-in as that (new) user, do everything that is needed, test, then delete new user18:54
lolcat-007where i can get a good ubuntu course tutorial18:56
lolcat-007?18:56
tomreyn!manual18:57
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/18:57
tomreyn^ doesn't exist for 18.04, yet (and it may never hapen)18:57
tomreynbut there is https://help.ubuntu.com/18:58
lotus|NUClolcat-007: the blue ? icon is also usefull for help on your system19:07
lolcat-007lotus|NUC: ok19:09
lolcat-007thank19:09
imarkanyone have much experience with snaps? I've installed snapd in ubuntu 16.04 installed the brave snap package and can't run it. Its not appeared in my menu and running brave from terminal draws a blank19:14
lotus|NUCimark: brave snap is pretty borked19:17
imarklotus|NUC, oh silly me, first install of snap doens't add /snap/bin to path, logout/in cycle fixed it.19:17
lotus|NUCimark: takes a huge time to startup and very unresponsive overall19:17
tomreynlast updated Oct 9 https://snapcraft.io/brave19:22
lotus|NUCtomreyn: 'browse fast..'19:23
NightMonkeyHowdy, y'all. I'm looking for a APT repo (PPA) that has Ansible 2.6.* version for Xenial.19:24
imarklotus|NUC, seems ok, not slow for me19:25
leftyfbNightMonkey: you don't want 2.7?19:25
leftyfbNightMonkey: did you try searching google for "ubuntu ansible 2.6 ppa"? It's the first result. Leave out 2.6 and you get the ansible ppa with 2.719:26
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MrPazpaz@PAZ:~$ python3 -m virtualenv venv19:45
MrPazRunning virtualenv with interpreter /usr/bin/python219:45
MrPazNew python executable in /home/paz/digital-cash/venv/bin/python219:45
MrPazTraceback (most recent call last):19:45
MrPaz  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/virtualenv.py", line 2375, in <module>19:45
MrPaz    main()19:45
MrPazhello19:47
nicomachus!paste | MrPaz19:48
ubottuMrPaz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:48
MrPazhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p4yft5bdBN/19:49
MrPazwhy does it fail?  and why does it use python2 when I specify python3?19:50
MrPazusing ubuntu subystem on windows1019:50
john38Hello does anybody know where the steam search history folder in is???19:53
john38is in??19:53
leftyfbjohn38: maybe try the steam help sources? forums? discord? irc?19:55
leftyfb!wsl | MrPaz19:56
ubottuMrPaz: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide19:56
MrPazok19:56
nicomachusMrPaz: as leftyfb points out, you'll need #ubuntu-on-windows for support. You may also try ##python19:56
john38i've tried doing search online no luck19:56
nicomachusor is it #python? whichever.19:56
dwigtonI noticed that I now have /dev/fb1 in addition /dev/fb0 is there any way to ascertain which is used for tty terminals?19:59
ezzieyguywufif I'm using bzr (so I guess dpkg?) to create a debian package, how can I have it adjust the cmake variables?20:00
Greyztar_hdparm reports trim is supported,but when fstrim i get not supported kingston ssdnow 60gb,anything i gt do or install in ubuntu to get it working?20:07
Greyztar_ubuntu 18.0420:07
cognition___I am trying to uninstall a package20:20
cognition___apt-get --auto-remove remove srvadmin-all20:20
cognition___getting an error20:20
hggdhcognition___: apt-get remove20:21
cognition___E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no package20:21
hggdhcognition___: and what happens when you tun apt-get -f isntall?20:21
hggdhs/tun/run/20:22
cognition___hggdh: I am hesitant to run apt-get -f install20:23
cognition___what will that do?20:23
tewardcognition___: it'll attempt to solve the dependencies problems.20:24
hggdhcognition___: no need to, apt is already telling you you *need* to run it20:24
hggdhcognition___: the error is "unmet dependencies", meaning you tried to install a package without its required dependencies20:25
hggdhcognition___: so the install of this package is now, well, in limbo, until you run -f install20:26
hggdhperhaps you tried to install with dpkg instead of apt?20:26
cognition___https://pastebin.com/9Wb9k2mn20:27
hggdhcognition___: so, anwering your question: -f install will look at the repositories, and download the missing dependency packages, install them, then finish the interrupted install20:27
cognition___hggdh: apt-get -f install is failing20:29
hggdhcognition___: yes, I see. Failure on unpack. Perhaps a bad download?20:29
thrmoDIMITRI!20:30
notmikeПривет20:30
coconut!ru20:30
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:30
notmikeDuh20:31
notmikeHow to take delivery of Ubuntu?20:32
coconutnotmike: delivery?20:33
notmikeYes, I am very much liking ubuntu20:33
Greyztar_seems trim is enabled by default in ubuntu 18,howver seems to be something new other than discard command idk20:34
coconutnotmike: you mean how to install ubuntu?20:35
notmikeNot sure . I've never really called it that20:35
coconutnotmike: i don't understand your question, can you be more specific?20:37
notmikecoconut: u like ubuntu, too? Know what I mean?20:37
notmikeUbuntu magnifico!20:37
hggdhnotmike: this is not a general chat channel.20:38
notmikehggdh: forgive me, English is not first language. Trying to get into ubuntu20:40
notmikeSpecific20:40
core7I am trying to create an entry in fstab so that my current home directory from "/" that has "/home" becomes irrelevant and a fresh boot /dataX/home becomes my /home system. Is this correct?  dataX/home /home bind defaults,bind 0 020:50
hggdhGreyztar_: at least on 18.10, fstrim is called once per week, with -av as parameters20:53
hggdhGreyztar_: and, just so we are in sync, there is no Ubuntu 18.20:53
SuntopK18.10?20:54
hggdhSuntopK: current Cosmic, future 18.1020:54
gt8ost4lcan anybody help me i am on ubuntu 18.04 not wayland when ever i click on krita (raster graphics program) it doesnt open can anybody help me?20:54
Greyztar_hggdh: yeah i saw fstrim.timer,however i cant see any entries in journalctl -u fstrim? yes im on 18.04.1 lts20:55
hggdhGreyztar_: fstrim.timer is just the timer, calling on fstrim.service20:56
Greyztar_hggdh: cant find any for fstrim.service nor fstrim either,im using lvm though also might that be why ftsrim -v root dir says unsupported?20:57
SuntopKnods20:58
hggdhGreyztar_: not sure. I do not have a 18.04 to test on; as long as your filesystems are under SSD, trim should work20:58
Greyztar_dmesg ata1.00: Enabling discard_zeroes_data21:01
Greyztar_seems it gets enabled atleast21:01
gt8ost4lBashing-om, do you know a solution for me?21:02
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: well, maybe no solution, what shows if you start krita from terminal ?21:04
gt8ost4lBashing-om, you kidding me i have to install it again?21:05
gt8ost4lBashing-om, this only happends with kde applications all other applications pass the start up test!21:07
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: HUH ? All you have said is that from the GUI there is an issue .. what results starting in termnial ?21:07
gt8ost4lBashing-om, yeah the gui doesnt start no kde applications start and no im not on wayland!21:08
gt8ost4lBashing-om, okay ill give it a test!21:09
gt8ost4lBashing-om, this is the output with another kde application that i wanted to start up!21:11
gt8ost4lkonversation: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Network.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory21:11
gt8ost4land here comes krita21:11
gt8ost4lkrita: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Widgets.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory21:13
Bashing-om!find libQt5Network.so.521:20
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 364 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libQt5Network.so.5&searchon=names&suite=bionic&section=all21:21
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: what shows ' dpkg -l libqt5network5 ' ?21:23
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gt8ost4lBashing-om, do you want the output on pastebin?21:24
Bashing-omGreyztar_: Yes. please show that output.21:25
Greyztar_Bashing-om: u mean all of dmesg or those discard lines? its repeated 3x times i guess since i got 3x ssd though21:26
Greyztar_Bashing-om: ahh prolly ment msg gt8ost4l21:27
Bashing-omGreyztar_: Sorry. lost me .. I have no reference for the nick Greyztar_ .21:27
gt8ost4lBashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CDkZbrBBqK/21:28
Bashing-omGreyztar_: Oh I see .. me and my fat fingering and not paying attention :( ..21:28
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: Hummmm .. not what I anticipated .. but try ' sudo apt install --reinstall libqt5network5 ' anyway .. see if there are any errors reported .21:31
Greyztarpesky idle tabs omegalul21:32
notmikeHow to get Ubuntu?21:33
Bashing-omnotmike: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop .21:34
Greyztarhmm someone says when u have an active lvm snap trim isnt working21:34
gt8ost4lBashing-om, still wont open do i have to restart?21:36
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: No errors with the re-install  then yes, try a restart and see what results ?21:38
notmikeThanks21:39
Bashing-omnotmike: :) .. you were specific to ubuntu. However ubuntu is not a good fit for all hardwares; your milage can vary .21:42
Greyztarok removing lvm snapshot was solution,now fstrim works21:46
R13oseHi21:54
electronoobUbuntu 18.04.1 LTS. E: Package 'ffmpeg' has no installation candidate.21:56
electronoobsigh21:57
R13oseI have an error come up in a dialog box that says Configure file "/home/Shawn/.config/kreadconfigrc" not writeable. Please contact your system administrator.21:58
Ben64electronoob: it's in universe21:59
electronoobthanks Ben6422:00
notmikeBashing-om: Ubuntu is like unto manna from heaven22:06
V7Hey all22:06
V7Could anyone suggest why integrated camera doesn't work?22:06
Bashing-omR13ose: who owns the file ' ls -al /home/Shawn/.config/kreadconfigrc ' ?22:11
R13oseGot same message for konsolerc and hitting okay opens terminal22:14
R13oseBashing-om: I don't see the file kreadconfig5rc.  Sorry I missed the 5 in the filename.22:17
Bashing-omR13ose: Looks like 3rd party stuff, where did you get kread from and how did you install it ?22:20
R13oseBashing-om: I don't know.  This is not the first time for the error.22:20
R13oseWhen I hit tab on terminal, I get the message "bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system." I get that twice.22:23
pavlosV7: type lspci or psusb to find its device22:23
pavlosV7: type lspci or lsusb to find its device22:24
Bashing-omR13ose: So is the file system busted ? .. what results ' touch test ' ?22:24
pavlosV7: there is a 'cheese' app to test with22:25
R13oseBashing-om: touch: cannot touch 'test': Read-only file system22:25
Bashing-omR13ose: Have we not been through this scene before ? Bad hard drive ??22:26
R13oseBashing-om: yes but I was able to fix this by doing fsck with a live usb on the hdd22:27
Bashing-omR13ose: Suspect bad drive or other hardware problems as this is what the 3rd time to fix the read only situation ?22:28
R13oseYes22:29
pavlosV7: there is also guvcview but you need to install some packages22:30
R13oseBashing-om: I did take out bad memory.  How do I figure out what hardware is bad?22:30
Bashing-omR13ose: Well, is the drive supportedb by 'smartctl' and what does the tool relate as to the drive's health - is one place to start troubleshooting . What do the logs say ?22:33
R13oseBashing-om: smartctl is not installed.  Which logs do I check?22:36
Bashing-omR13ose: ' sudo apt install smartmontools ; sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda ' . Log files: /var/log/syslog , dmesg .22:41
Bashing-omR13ose: But will have to either run 'smartctl' from a liveUSB, or fix the file system in order to install on the bad (??) hard drive .22:45
R13oseBashing-om: I couldn't install as read-only errors came up.  I did get errors in dmesg "systemd-journald[319]: Failed to write entry (28 items, 677), ignoring: Read-only file system"22:47
R13oseBashing-om: another error is "perf: interrupt took too long (4970 > 4953), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 4000022:49
R13oseBashing-om: are you saying I should reboot and run the liveUSB?22:50
Bashing-omR13ose: The "interrupt" you can ignore. // Will be best to check that drive from a live environment, yes.22:51
R13oseBashing-om: give me a few mins.22:52
Bashing-omR13ose: K; I be here for several hours yet :)22:53
gt8ost4lBashing-om, okay im stuck again!22:53
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: On what are you stuck ?22:54
gt8ost4lnow it says this This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb"22:54
gt8ost4lin "".22:54
gt8ost4land i already installed xcb22:55
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: 'apt policy libc6 libx11-6 libxaw7 libxt6 ' in a pastebin . see if all dependencies are met .22:56
gt8ost4lBashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jJRZFSz3qj/22:58
R13oseBashing-om: I am on liveUSB.  I installed smartctl, and did the command you asked.  Results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qtnXSYf9Q2/22:59
KhaoticTJ, bluetooth is down again :(22:59
Bashing-omR13ose: looking23:01
R13oseThanks23:01
Bashing-omR13ose: Un-Good: " Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       640" . Were me I would be replacing that drive . That is saying to me that there are now 640 bad sectors that the controller can not cope with.23:08
R13oseBashing-om: no way to fix them?23:09
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: Loks good to me .. what app is giving that problem ?23:09
gt8ost4lBashing-om, both23:10
Bashing-omR13ose: Maybe .. I have zero'd out a drive and the sectors are then found good . But that calls for a system re-install .23:11
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: Show me the command and the results in a pastie .23:11
R13oseBashing-om: no, I will lose everything :(23:11
Bashing-omR13ose: What do you propose then for a fix ?23:12
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R13oseBashing-om: will fsck not fix this?  If not, I am unsure but I don't want to lose everything23:13
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gt8ost4lBashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2sfgKcPdJm/23:13
Bashing-omR13ose: fsck will address software issues - what you have is hardware related. I can not see fsck as a long term solution . You have beem through this several times now .23:15
R13oseBashing-om: long term fix is new machine?23:16
rfmR13ose, just a new disk, not a whole new machine23:17
R13oserfm: let me look and see if I have one.  Yet, how do I get the current material off the old drive?23:18
Bashing-omR13ose: Long term fix might be as easy as a new hard drive . How old is this system ?... an SSD will do wonders for perormance over a slow spinning hard drive .23:20
rfmR13ose, depends on what's unique.  if it's just some of your data in /home, boot the liveusb and copy it off somewhere (you need another system on the net you can write to for this)23:20
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: what shows ' which xcb ' ?23:20
R13oseI have an old drive, I found that was in another laptop so I will try that23:21
gt8ost4lBashing-om, /usr/bin/xcb23:22
rfmR13ose, if you really want to save the system install -- i.e. you've made massive customizations, you need to get the new disk, connect it to the system, boot the liveusb, use dd to copy the whole disk over.23:22
rfmR13ose, since it's a 2.5" disk, I assume the system is a laptop and inevitabley has only one disk slot, right?23:23
rfmR13ose, so you'll have to get an external drive case to make the drive a usb external drive...23:24
R13oserfm: I have another usb, I can use.  Yet, I would like to see if I can keep the bookmarks, current tabs opened and passwords saved of Opera Browser.  Plus, save Filezilla sites, and the background of desktop.23:24
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R13oserfm: I feel this only had one slot.  It is a laptop23:25
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R13oseBashing-om: afaik this is 5 years old.23:27
rfmR13ose, all that is in your home directory (actually if you are using Opera's roaming profile, all the opera stuff would be stored safely up there..)23:27
R13oserfm: I don't think I was23:27
Bashing-omR13ose: Then I would expect the box to support AHCI, and I would install an SSD . The prices now are quite reasonable .23:28
R13oseBashing-om: I have another hdd right here, can't I just swap the two once I take the data off that I want23:30
R13oserfm: how do I get the data off of the existing HDD that is in the laptop?23:30
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: and is /usr/bin/ in your declared path : ' sudo echo $PATH ' .23:30
rfmR13ose, where do you want to move it to?23:31
Bashing-omR13ose: sure .. Just back up what data you want and do the re-install onto the other hard drive .23:31
gt8ost4lBashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Xzg8BzFMy3/23:32
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Bashing-omgt8ost4l: Yep .. it is good there too .. maybe do as the package manager advises and purge xcb and install again .23:34
hggdhcoffeestorm: canyou please stop playingwith nicks?23:35
gt8ost4lBashing-om, what is the command?23:35
R13oserfm: to the other usb drive which is not plugged in yet.23:35
coffeestormhggdh: roger roger o723:35
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: ' sudp apt remove --purge xcb ; sudo apt install xcb ' .23:36
hggdhcoffeestorm: thank you23:36
R13oseBashing-om: reinstall as in run liveUSB and choose install instead of use?23:36
Bashing-omR13ose: yepper, depending on your level of experience ( and desire ) is the install option that you then choose .23:37
rfmR13rose, then once you get the usb drive connected and mounted just copy over your whole home directory.  cp -r  would work, I'd probably use rsync (after re-reading the man page to figure out which options I wanted)23:37
gt8ost4lBashing-om, is a restart required?23:40
R13oserfm: Filezilla, background file and opera are all in home folder?  If so, how do I make sure the hdd is mounted safely?23:40
Bashing-omgt8ost4l: I would assume so .. I have not seen KDE in years and years so not at all familiar .23:41
R13oseBashing-om: there are different ways to install?23:41
Bashing-omR13ose: Many many ways - for the inexperienced there is " wipe disk and install ubuntu " .23:42
R13oseBashing-om: thanks.  Should I try to boot from the HDD first to see what is on this or just install over whatever?23:43
rfmR13ose, I don't understand what your concern is  (I don't know what it would mean to have a disk mounted "unsafely")23:45
Bashing-omR13ose: 4 installs all different: my system of 5 drives with 2 presently 'hot' : http://termbin.com/usa123:45
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R13oserfm: true.23:47
Bashing-omR13ose: You are to give careful thought as to what you want to save . copy what you want to save off the hard drive .23:47
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