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kronos003has anyone else seen this? https://linux.slashdot.org/story/18/10/28/1859245/ibm-to-buy-red-hat-the-top-linux-distributor-for-34-billion ? wonder how many folks will jump ship to ubuntu00:12
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aFeijohi folks, I have 2 files that are from my user, I've set it to chmod 7777, and yet I cannot move nor remove them. It is a VPS shared account.00:30
aFeijohow can I kill those bastards?00:30
dbff2My HDMI external display is not identified in my laptop00:43
dbff2I am using Nvidia-Driver 39600:43
dbff2help?00:44
dbff2Ubuntu 18.0400:44
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MrokiiHello. After trying to update 18.04 to 18.10 my system doesn't start anymore. I can't even get to the grub-menu. I started from a live-CD and tried to use chroot, but I didn't get that to work. The first question is: Is it normal that grub and grub2 is installed in the system? I thought it would be only one of both.02:18
MrokiiAnd I wonder if this is the root of the problem.02:18
Mrokiiafter using "dpgk --list | grep grub" I get five lines as output, including "grub-common" and "grub2-common".02:21
MrokiiOr can somebody help with trying to use grub-install properly? Maybe that is all that is needed.02:23
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snowveilI'm running 16.04 and trying to upgrade to 18.04 or 18.10...Software Updater crashes when I try to run it, and the command "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" produces the following error...any thoughts?  https://pastebin.com/6Mkd6jeZ02:42
cryptodansnowveil: delete the duplicate repos in software sources02:43
MrokiiI'm trying chroot now and the instruction shows me a "debootstrap"-line. However it uses "i386" for "--arch", but I have an AMD-CPU. what do I need to use for that?02:48
cryptodanif amd 64 you can use amd64 or x86_64 I think02:48
UBUXUBUhow much ram do u have02:49
UBUXUBUAMD support is still not completely reliable in Linux, although much work has been done in recent years. A general rule is that most modern AMD processors will work as long as you donโ€™t need any AMD-specific features.02:54
UBUXUBUi am using amd64 cuz that 64 bit and im running a 64 bit intel platform02:55
cryptodanits not so much the processors they work fine generally but the newer ryzen ones need some modern kernel support and their amdgpu drivers need work02:55
cryptodanamd64 is the nomenclature for 64bit support02:55
UBUXUBUsome of the oterh ones ran some really whacky dual graphics stuff that need a very specific driver from the computer manufacturer02:56
UBUXUBUand u had to use it even if it was way out a date and the manufcturer wasnt updating it02:56
Bashing-omMrokii: IF MBR partitioning, I can help with installing grub. Please pastebin - from the liveUSB - ' sudo fdisk -lu ' so we know the target.03:00
cryptodanwouldnt sudo parted -l be better?03:02
Bashing-omcryptodan: either will work for what we need to know .03:03
kantlivelongtrying to figure out a kerberos issue. get this rpc.gssd[405]: ERROR: No credentials found for connection to server xxxxxxx03:09
kantlivelongbut i have the appropriate spn03:09
kantlivelongand if i remove the spn it mentions that it cant find it03:09
kantlivelongno issues w/ fedora client03:09
kantlivelongssh auth works fine03:11
adam4567what recommendations for a desktop recorder? simplescreenrecorder is the first one that I notice. Need sound too I guess. Ant recoomendations? Ubuntu 16.0403:38
adam4567any recommendations, I mean ..03:38
Ben64adam4567: that's the best one i've found03:39
adam4567Ben64: Really? simplescreenrecorder? OK. Will PPA and give it a try. Small dual-core desktop here. Beaut.03:42
MrokiiHello. I have tried to ues chroot to to update the grub config on a non-booting drive. However when I try to issue update-grub I get "grub-probe: error: can't find a device for / is /dev mounted?)"03:43
MrokiiAny hint on what could be wrong? I did mount /dev afaik.03:43
bz-is anyone aware of ubuntu 18.10 having issues with vmware?03:44
clacketyMrokii, what exactly do you mount before you chroot? do you have separate partitions or just a single root partition?  does the system boot using uefi?04:10
Mrokiiclackety: I have one boot-partition and one home-partition, and there is a third (actually the first) partition on this HD with shows up as "unallocated" (around 9 MB big).04:16
clacketycan you put your fstab in a pastebin or something, Mrokii04:18
clacketythe fstab of the non-booting setup i mean04:18
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Mrokiiclackety: One momnet, I'm trying something atm.04:29
RefractiveIndexHi, Is anyone having choppy video problems with Intel HD 520 in Ubuntu 18.0404:36
RefractiveIndex?04:36
RefractiveIndexAs in 1080p videos both online and on the PC.04:37
MrAureliusRis it a system with two GPUs?04:42
MrAureliusRfor example, my machine has the Intel iGPU and an nVidia GPU separately04:42
MrAureliusRI used to get choppy video because the drivers weren't set up correctly04:42
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Mrokiiclackety: This is my fstab: https://pastebin.com/q2reMZ9h05:17
clacketyMrokii, mount / in /mnt, /home in /mnt/home, chroot to /mnt, and you should be able to update grub05:18
clacketyi usually mount by /dev/sdX in this case cause i don't even recall how to mount by uuid lol05:19
Mrokiiclackety: okay, I will try that, thanks.05:20
Mrokiiclackety: Do I have all that stuff again, with mounting/link dev, sys and such?05:20
clacketythe message you were seeing before, makes me think you weren't in the chroot environment correctly.  seemed like an error grub would throw when you try to update from the liveusb environment.  I could be wrong.05:21
Mrokiiclackety: It looks as if update-grub is working now...05:37
clacketygood sign Mrokii05:44
MrokiiI guess the next thing to try is to restart.05:45
* clackety crosses fingers05:50
Mrokiiclackety: *sigh* That didn't help... Still the same problem.05:51
clacketywell, what specifically is the problem05:52
Mrokiiclackety: right after the bios-screen a blinking white curosr appears. No grub-menu, nothing.05:57
Mrokiiclackety: It happened at the first restart after upgrading von 18.04 to 18.1005:57
MrokiiSo I assume that was the cause. That, or just coincidence, I don#t know05:58
clacketyah, I haven't used 18.10.  does bios show the ubuntu/grub option in the startup selection?05:58
Mrokiiclackety: It shows the HD (at least on the bios-boot-menu, but not the boot-partition specifically, I think.05:59
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Mrokiibrb06:00
clacketyi have to crash, I have class in like 6 hours :/  good luck, sorry I couldn't help further, Mrokii06:00
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | Mrokii06:02
ubottuMrokii: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter06:02
Mrokiilotuspsychje: I will check that out asap, thanks.06:02
Mrokiiclackety: No problem. Good night. And thanks.06:03
Mrokiiaway for about 15 minutes.06:03
Mrokiilotuspsychje: The black screen/white cursor thing happens right after the bios-screen. Could this problem happen so early?06:20
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lotuspsychjeMrokii: blinking cursor at left upper corner?06:34
lotuspsychjeMrokii: that sounds like bad uefi settings06:35
Mrokiilotuspsychje: lotuspsychje yet.06:39
lotuspsychjeMrokii: are you singlebooting or dualbooting?06:39
Mrokiilotuspsychje: But why would these appear after an upgrade of Ubuntu? I haven't changed anything in the bios.06:39
Mrokiilotuspsychje: Single.06:39
lotuspsychjeMrokii: is fastboot and secureboot disabled?06:40
Mrokiilotuspsychje: I don't know, I haven't done anything in the bios for years. I need to check at the next reboot.06:41
MrokiiI assumed that I had disabled these though. But I could be wrong. Plus, I was able to boot right before I upgraded.06:42
lotuspsychjeMrokii: this happened after upgrade 18.04 to 18.10?06:42
Mrokiiyes06:43
lotuspsychjeMrokii: can you still enter grub?06:43
Mrokiino, it doesn't seem so. I've tried holding down shift to get the grub menu, but the blinking cursor appears right away.06:44
Mrokiilotuspsychje: Fastboot is disabled in Bios. Haven't found secure boot yet.06:45
lotuspsychjeMrokii: even on borked installs you should be able to enter grub06:45
lotuspsychjehence why i think uefi06:45
Mrokiilotuspsychje: Is "Secure Boot" = "Trusted Computing"?06:46
lotuspsychjeMrokii: you should see things like uefi or legacy06:47
Mrokiilotuspsychje: I have something called "storage boot option control" with "legacy only" chosen.06:48
Mrokiilotuspsychje: Ah yes, there are two options for this, "UEFI" or "Legacy". And the latter is chosen.06:48
lotuspsychjeweird, sounds like their set correctly06:49
MrokiiI might give that kernel-option a try and see if that helps anything.06:49
lotuspsychjeMrokii: kernel option you need to enter grub06:49
dragerI just installed awesomeVM on my ubuntu 18.04 and when I open a terminal it's slow to type. Really laggy actually, any ideas?06:50
lotuspsychjedrager: system up to date?06:51
Mrokiilotuspsychje: okay, here's something new. I just tried booting from the HD again, holding shift and now I get "GRUB" and a blinking cursor behind. No menu though.06:51
lotuspsychjeMrokii: can you test, if you can boot from an ubuntu liveusb to bypass that?06:52
Mrokiilotuspsychje: yes, booting from live CD works.06:52
MrokiiThat's how I used chroot to try to update the grub options.06:53
MrokiiI guess I could use the same procedure to change that nomodeset-option. Or maybe even try to reinstall the nvidia drivers.06:53
lotuspsychjeMrokii: no way you could tty neither?06:54
Mrokiinope, the key-combination doesn't work. Nothing I can do when I boot from the HD.06:55
dragerlotuspsychje: Yup, all the latest. If I use default ubuntu "gnome" all works fine. So not sure if it's an issue with awesome or not.06:55
Mrokiiif all else fails I will make a backup of both partitions and just install 18.10 again. Home is on a different partition anyway.06:55
dragerBut haven't had this issue with awesome on other distros though06:56
lotuspsychjeMrokii: upgrade might be borked06:56
MrokiiMight be, yes.06:57
lotuspsychjedrager: can you check if your gfx drivers are installed correctly?06:57
lotuspsychjeMrokii: how about booting an ubuntu usb and try to rescue your existing install06:57
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lotuspsychjeMrokii: like installing 18.10 next to 18.04, keeping your /home06:58
Mrokiilotuspsychje: I thought it would be possible to just use the current boot-partition to install Ubuntu again, plus using the existing home-partition.06:59
lotuspsychjeMrokii: you can try that too06:59
MrokiiI mean, booting from the live CD and let it install the system cleanly on the existing boot-partition.06:59
MrokiiAnyhow, I will give the nomodeset-thing a try first.06:59
dragerlotuspsychje: What would be the easiest way to do that?07:00
dragerI have configuration: driver=nouveau latency=007:03
lotuspsychjedrager: ubuntu-drivers list07:13
Mrokiilotuspsychje: Sorry to disturb you again, but for some reason I can't access the internet from within cnroot, even though I did a "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf" . Do you have any idea why that might not work?07:13
Mrokiiso I can't install the nvidiad-drivers.07:14
lotuspsychjeMrokii: think your system is bad scrambled07:18
MrokiiPossibly.07:18
dragerlotuspsychje: That gives me: nvidia-driver-39007:19
MrokiiI have (hopefully) activated the nomodeset-option and see what it does.07:19
Mrokiinope, didn't work. So I guess it's backup-time. I don't have any clue what else could check. :-(07:21
lotuspsychjedrager: hmm ok, perhaps its an awesome issue07:23
lotuspsychjedrager: maybe ask in the awesome channel?07:24
lotuspsychjeMrokii: i would go for the uubntu setup trick, takover your existing /home07:25
dragerlotuspsychje: Yeah will do, thank you for the help!07:25
Mrokiilotuspsychje: That's what I planned on doing, as soon as I've done a backup.07:26
pragomerwhen using vinagre to connect to my windows-pc (tightvncserver) it works perfect. but when checking the box to save the password vinagre just hangs and does not (never) connect.07:26
pragomerany ideas what could be wrong?07:26
lotuspsychjepragomer: be carefullw ith vnc, its a big security flaw these days07:27
lotuspsychje!vnc | pragomer07:27
ubottupragomer: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX07:27
pragomerits just in an internal LAN, not internet-connected07:27
lotuspsychjepragomer: ok, alternate you could try the remmina app07:28
pragomerwill try different apps, no problem.07:29
pragomerI just remember that it worked on many distros with vinagre, but had this issue once before 1 year but dont knkow the solution07:29
pragomermm... does remmina only know ssh?07:30
radkosif i want to send logs (filtered by program name) to external central rsyslog server do i need to define this into clients server or in central server 'programname, isequal, myprogram -?dynmyprogtemplate' is enough?07:57
randominternetusI have a really annoying issue on ubuntu 18.04 and gnome fallback. Problem is I think somehow on top priority of windows got screwed. sometimes I click on a window to show up and it doesn't cause another window blocks it.08:23
EriC^randominternetus: can you run "gsettings list-recursively | grep focus | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here?08:25
randominternetusEriC^, http://termbin.com/3sak08:26
EriC^this seems odd, "org.gnome.shell.overrides focus-change-on-pointer-rest true"08:27
EriC^sounds like it's supposed to focus if you rest the mouse over a window, does it do that?08:28
grek69hi i have in raid status active, degraded what is this ?08:28
randominternetusEriC^, and reset here means?08:28
randominternetusoh rest08:28
randominternetusnope.08:28
randominternetusit doesn't.08:28
EriC^oh08:28
EriC^did you try the guest session or another user?08:28
randominternetusNo.08:29
randominternetusand I can't logout right now really.08:29
EriC^oh ok08:29
randominternetusCan't find anything related in gnome-tweaks either.08:31
randominternetusIt might happen on pycharm only. I'm not sure.08:32
EriC^mmk08:34
EriC^open another program and see if it does it?08:36
geodb27People : hi ! I run a kubuntu 18.04 laptop, which has systemd. How can I identify a service that would clean-up /tmp after a certain service has been started ?08:50
clobbiesi am executing a script as www-data, which is supposed to create a directory in a www-data owned dir, with normal 755 perms. But after the script runs the perms are d-wxrw---t?08:56
EriC^clobbies: paste the script09:02
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radkoshow can i read third program's log using rsyslog the version is 8.24 and imfile is not available module09:18
radkosi want to send this log to centralized log server09:18
clobbiesEriC^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qvNxjfxcyH09:34
clobbiesEriC^: currently it dies in line 84, caused by the incorrect directory perms set in line 8309:37
MrokiiHello. I have an HD with two partitions (system-boot and home). Is it possible to use the installer from the Kubuntu-live disk to install a fresh System while also pointing it towards the existing home-folder?09:44
hexer22YeP09:44
tomreynMrokii: yes, this should work. you'll need to choose "something else" on the partitioning step and  then assign the existing partitions and make sure you set the /home one to not be formatted (alternatively you can not assign home at all there and change it after installation, but this is not as easy).09:47
Mrokiihexer22, tomreyn: Thank you. I am just starting from the CD and trying to make the necessary adjustments.09:48
hexer22Mrokii: plz inbox09:50
asdfghapt update ---> FATAL -> Failed to fork.    WTF ??09:50
asdfgh(hello everybody)09:50
eviladminMrokii: what is a "system-boot" partition?09:53
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Mrokiieviladmin: I was just expressing that this is the partition that contains the "old" system I booted from.09:55
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Mrokiieviladmin: Probably redundant to say it both. :)09:56
hexer22eviladmin: something like ntfs , not mentioning partition format09:56
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hexer22Mrokii: do u have a windows system ? For making a bootable drive09:58
Mrokiihexer22: Hm? Why would I need that? I have the regular live-CD.09:59
hexer22Mrokii: To install with a better options09:59
Mrokiihexer22: I think/hope the regular Kubuntu-installer will be fine.10:00
hexer22Mrokii: Well hope so10:02
hexer22Mrokii : when can we start ?10:02
Mrokiihexer22: What do you mean?10:03
hexer22Mrokii: I am a bit busy 2morrow10:03
MrokiiI already found the manual-options and chose the partitions. I think I'll be fine, thank you.10:03
MrokiiJust one more question: It's probably recommended to install the boot loader on the same disk, right?10:04
hexer22Yes10:05
hexer22I prefer grub10:05
hexer22Well no problems for the first para10:06
Mrokiihexer22: Thanks again.10:08
hexer22Mrokii: No problem10:09
radkosany idea on how to escape ^M kinda characters in rsyslog10:11
radkosany rsyslog option to enable/disable?10:11
eviladmindon't put them in there to begin with10:12
eviladminaka don't use \r\n line endings10:12
radkosi am not the program by itself is10:12
radkoswhile sending thru omrelp newlines are being preformatted with such chars10:12
damexhello, is there some known date when we might get HWE for 18.04 ?10:12
radkosis there any way to do other than making the output based on template10:13
Ben64damex: july10:13
Ben64wait, maybe november10:14
damexhmmm... november?10:15
Ben64yes10:15
tomreynfebruary from what i read :)10:15
damexi am planning when to upgrade kernel on my ubuntu boxes, if it is november - i might hold off10:15
Ben64might show up in -edge next month10:16
damexis there some wiki page or something with a plan related to adding HWE?10:16
Ben64what problem are you trying to solve here10:16
clobbiesfound it, perl mkdir takes a 4 digit permission parameter instead of a 3 digit one10:17
tomreynBen64: you know anything better than the "Feb 2019" here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=18.04.x+Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.svg10:17
Ben64that would be for the normal hwe10:18
tomreynBen64: as in not --wdge?10:18
tomreynBen64: as in not -edge?10:18
Ben64right10:19
tomreynmakes sense, thanks.10:19
MrokiiSo far, so good. My desktop is back like it was before. :) A lot of apps need to be installed but all the data seems to be there.10:20
Ben642018-04-13 12:00:26 install linux-image-4.15.0-13-generic:amd64 <none> 4.15.0-13.14~16.04.110:21
Ben64according to the chart, i shouldn't have had 4.15 until August10:22
tomreynyes it'd be great if this chart and the ReleaseSchedule documents could get updated more regularly.10:26
tomreyn(esp. in regards to hwe)10:27
Ben64tomreyn: they're editable :D10:30
tomreyn"Please do not edit"10:30
tomreynhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule10:31
Ben64that's editable too10:31
tomreyn:-P10:31
Ben64if one has some definitive info to add to it i can't see why not10:31
Ben64the hwe page is very 16.04 centric, might need to fix that soon10:32
* tomreyn has no definitive info to add10:32
CoolGuyHi there10:33
Ben64i have a few pages on my list to edit, just need time10:33
tomreynsure, didnt mean to complain ;)10:33
tomreynhi CoolGuy10:33
CoolGuyHi Tom10:34
CoolGuyI need help please10:34
tomreyn!ask | CoolGuy10:35
ubottuCoolGuy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:35
CoolGuyI wish to download a complete website on my hard disk to offline reading. I tried with wget. It worked fine but it is not downloading after resuming 3/4t h time even by using -c flag. Is there any web ripping utility which have pause and resume feature please?10:36
attiehi. I turned off my machine and now it won't boot again. How can I show the boot log? removing the quiet and splash options from grub menu does not help, they take effect too late, it seems my boot hangs earlier than that.10:39
gpunkwget is the best, but you might find FF extension that do that10:39
tomreynCoolGuy: i'm not certain whether httrack offers this but it has a more scraping like feature set.10:39
gpunkbut many times, websites are secured o you cant do that10:39
hexer22gpunk: hi10:41
gpunk:)10:41
CoolGuytomreyn: Yes i have played with httrack too, but its functionality and GUI is bit complex. I tried too with it by pause and resume, but failed to download the site.10:41
deadcyph3rhttrack it worked fine for me10:42
tomreynCoolGuy: as gpunk suggested this can be due to restrictions the website maintainer enforces, such as rate limiting.10:42
tomreynCoolGuy: scraping is a matter of much debate. some websites declare what's acceptabe to them.10:42
deadcyph3rbut httrack doesnot download https sites10:43
CoolGuydeadcyph3r : so, is there any utility to download https sites please?10:45
tomreynattie: normally with quiet and nosplash removed you would get to see output. alternatively, you can boot into recovery, drop to a root shell and review journalctl + dmesg10:47
attietomreyn: recovery boot only gives me an aubergine screen too10:47
deadcyph3rso i didn't tried anything like that10:47
tomreynCoolGuy: https://www.httrack.com/html/faq.html#QT310:48
tomreynattie: which ubuntu version is this?10:48
attie17.1010:48
tomreyn!17.10 | attie10:48
ubottuattie: Ubuntu 17.10 (Artful Aardvark) was the 27th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 19th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2018-July/004483.html10:48
attieyes, I know10:49
tomreynattie: well it'd be kind to point out that you're asking about a non  supported release when requesting support here.10:49
hexer22Oh no10:49
Mr_Pan!eol10:49
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:49
attiepretend it's 18.04, what is the magic word to print the boot log?10:49
deadcyph3rhey it says it works with https too10:50
deadcyph3rsorry i was not updated10:50
attieit's not like I can update if it doesn't boot10:50
CoolGuyThank you tomreyn10:51
tomreynattie: you can try recovering it from a booted 17.10 installer / live iso's by chrooting into the existing installation (i have no plans to guide you through this) or you can install a supported ubuntu release.10:53
attietomreyn: 16.04 is supported?10:55
CoolGuyToday i will retry with httrack for pause and resume10:57
tomreynattie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases10:57
tomreynalso shown graphically here https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle10:58
quemhey10:59
quemjust upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04. now quite a bit of my console is outside the display. any idea?10:59
tomreynquem: can you take a photo and share it online?11:00
gpunkquem: to you have a button on your monitor that says "autio" ?11:01
gpunkauto*11:01
BluesKajHi all11:01
quemgpunk: yeah, i've tried that. doesn't help unfortunately.11:02
tomreynquem: also discuss your the parameters you pass to the kernel (and modules) and your hardware (architecture, graphics card, special parts)11:02
gpunkand monitor model/make if applicable11:05
quem01:00.1 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200EH11:08
quemmodel name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1610T @ 2.30GHz11:08
quemBenQ G2420HD11:08
quemBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-38-generic11:08
gpunkmaybe mga is not supported anymore, and it is falling back to vesa11:14
gpunkcan you run this please lshw -C display ?11:14
gpunkit is better to use https://paste.ubuntu.com , for the others to see it too :)11:19
tomreynquem: you may need to comment in WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf11:20
quemthere's no /etc/gdm3, which makes sense i guess, since i don't use any graphical interface on the machine11:25
quemgpunk: ah. :)11:25
gpunkyou can try rebooting with modeset=off11:28
gpunkmgag200.modeset=0 to be precise11:30
gpunkas a kernel command line ...11:31
quemgpunk: that did the trick. thank you for your time! :)11:52
gpunk;)11:52
vincenzomlHi there. Is there a way to make the mouse scroll wheel a bit faster? I'm getting tendinitis12:10
vincenzomlIn ubuntu 18.1012:10
guestin mouse settings you can change the number of lines scrolled per "click"12:17
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vincenzomlguest which mouse settings? In gnome-shell I only have mouse speed and it's also disabled.12:32
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gcHello! I'm trying to install ubuntu server 16.04 on an OpenBSD vm; this is fairly equivalent to a qemu installation. The installation is via serial console, which I achieved by editing the .iso as shown in (https://github.com/ynkjm/ubuntu-serial-install). Now, in the installation process, after partitioning the disk, I get stuck at "Install the system"; the error: "The failing step is: Install the system" is unhelpful, and so are Google r12:59
gc(e.g., https://askubuntu.com/questions/972917/ubuntu-server-16-04-lts-installation-step-failed). Any help on how I can debug this?12:59
m1chaelI was using VirtualBox yesterday on Linux Mint 18 (understandably not ubuntu exactly). the PC froze immedietely after starting the VM. The computer now will not boot without going in to BIOS and manually selecting the drive to boot. (the boot process also looks differently now, larger logo, strange looking) but the PC does end up booting correctly. any ideas what might went wrong and what i can do to fix this? when the PC doesn't13:03
m1chaelboot right, it stays at a black screen13:03
tootoffifeeare you all robot?13:05
blackflowyes.13:06
tootoffifeelol13:06
blackflowm1chael: did you perchance give the VM your actual disk partitions as disk image? and where does ubuntu come into play here?13:06
m1chaelbackflow, no, virtual box uses the default dynamic file disk. the issue is the main host PC now will not boot. (linux mint 18)13:08
blackflowm1chael: in which case probably unrelated to the VM?13:09
blackflow(and for mint issues please see their respective support channel)13:09
m1chaelunless i choose the hard drive specifically in bios (the hard drive is set as a default boot disk).. nothing has changed.. the only thing is that this issue came up after virtualbox froze and i reboot13:09
m1chaelOK.13:10
tomreyngc: it's not clear which installer you're using exactly.13:17
tomreyngc: installations are logged, if you can switch to a tty and have a look at /var/log or /target/var/log should get a better idea of what is failing.13:18
BluesKaj!mint  | m1chael13:18
ubottum1chael: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)13:18
gctomreyn: "normal" installer (as opposed to "live") -- or I'm not sure what you mean by which installer. /target/var/log doesn't exist. /var/log/syslog gives "error: exiting on error base-installer/no_codename", but again Google doesn't help13:22
tomreyngc: what's the name of the installer iso file you downloaded?13:24
tomreyndid oyu verify its checksum?13:24
gctomreyn: ubuntu-16.04.5-server-amd64.iso, but I had to modify it to get serial console installation (https://github.com/ynkjm/ubuntu-serial-install) so the checksum will probably fail13:25
solsTiCecan I open an ecryptfs volume with just the password I used to use to login ?13:25
vincenzomlhey I just tried to write a file larger than 4gb to a vfat device. Ok, it said "file too large" but then the cp process also hanged, and the only way to get rid of it was to reboot the machine... how is that.13:26
vincenzoml?13:26
tomreyngc: you can still do a 'media test' from grub menu (not sure you can access it via serial with the modifications you applied)13:27
tomreyn'check disk for defects' or something13:27
gctomreyn: "Check the CD-ROM(s) integrity"? Yep, it fails "is not a valid Ubuntu CD-ROM"; I suppose that's because of the changes I made (e.g., checksum will always fail), or does it depend on something else?13:29
solsTiCeonce I have recovered my encrypted home data to another encrypted luks partition. What steps do i need to take to clean the ecryptfs stuff. removeing .ceryptfs and .private is enough ?13:30
tomreyngc: i have to admit i'm not sure what it does exactly. i was thinking it validated checksums of many files and compares them against a list which comes with it. so i guess one of these files is one of those you edited, then it's indeed not useful.13:31
tomreyngc: you can try asking in #ubuntu-server, maybe you can get more insight there.13:32
gctomreyn: thanks for your help:) I will13:32
tomreyngc: note also that https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s03.html states "If you are booting with a serial console, generally the kernel will autodetect this."13:32
gctomreyn: true, but unfortunately it does not, or at least nothing shows on my serial console before changes :/13:35
solsTiCehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Mount%20Passphrase all I needed13:36
Someguy123ugh13:43
Someguy123I can't unmount a partition for some reason13:44
Someguy123I have /dev/sda1 mounted onto /proxmox/boot/efi13:44
Someguy123for whatever reason, that folder disappeared, and now umount refuses to unmount it13:44
gpunkdo fuser /dev/sda1 and fuser /proxmox/boot/efi13:44
Someguy123umount: /proxmox/boot/efi: not mounted.13:44
Someguy123gpunk: both return nothing13:45
tomreyngc: also note that the debian-installer (which i the installer you're using is based on) has a menu option to 'store debug logs'. you may need to hit escape a couple times from within the installer to get to the topmost installer menu where you can choose this option.13:45
gpunkrecreate the folder13:45
Someguy123I did13:45
Someguy123that didn't help13:45
Someguy123nor did mounting it again and trying to unmount it13:45
Someguy123it shows up clearly in `mount`13:45
Someguy123but it's adamant that it doesn't exist13:45
Someguy123using -f also offers no assistance13:46
tomreyntime to reboot, Someguy12313:46
gpunksnif13:46
Someguy123lsof shows no signs that the folder is actually used by anything13:46
Someguy123nor the physical device or partition13:47
Someguy123yeah something seeming went horribly wrong and I feel like I'm going to be forced to reboot, and then reset up my chroot13:47
Someguy123it's a live ubuntu recovery environment13:47
tomreynmaybe you mounted something inside the chroot but something else outside of it13:48
Someguy123tomreyn: nope, I chcked inside the chroot13:49
tomreynand didnt ensure this would cater over to the other side.13:49
Someguy123it's not mounted13:49
Someguy123that was the problem13:49
Someguy123I was trying to unmount boot so I could mount it within the chroot13:49
Someguy123and it complained boot didn't exist13:49
Someguy123I then figured out it was related to the efi folder13:49
Someguy123so I tried to unmount that, with no luck13:49
Someguy123both show up within `mount` so I have no clue why it's upset13:50
Someguy123possibly a bug with vfat or something13:50
tomreynwhatever happened, it'll be better to do it again from a clean slate.13:50
Someguy123yeah, it seems something is horribly wrong with the boot mount, so I guess I'll reboot and try to re-do the chroot13:50
tomreynif you can reproduce it, note down the details.13:50
Someguy123I had used debootstrap, installed grub (maybe that wiped out the efi folder or something) from chroot,13:51
Someguy123DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS"13:51
Someguy123it's the ubuntu recovery environment from MAAS13:52
Someguy123so it might be a little outdated, I'm not sure13:52
bfdi533I have a Dell Precision 7710 and am trying to install Linux.  I keep getting hardware lockup issues.  I think it is the video driver as the second monitor detection also causes a lockup.14:15
bfdi533Additionally the screen lock causes a hardware lock up.14:16
bfdi533I have a what Dell calls a hybrid video setup and the second (discreet) video gpu is an Intel.14:16
bfdi533Can anyone point me in a direction on how to get proper kernel/video driver setup so I can keep the system from locking up?14:17
bfdi533BTW, trying to install 18.04 LTS.14:17
antimatroidI'm trying to test how many clients can connect to some tcp server code I am using. I need a new process for each client connecting, and I'm hitting a limit of 16048 clients connected before I can't open any more processes. Is there a way to increase the number of processes I can have open? I've tried editing /etc/security/limits.conf for both root and user to increase nproc both soft and hard..14:17
gpunkbfdi533 , do the installation with one monitor14:18
antimatroidI'm going to hit a limit with memory once I get to about 23000 clients on this machine anyway though, but would be nice to test up to there.. I have been able to connect more clients from another machine as well to check that the 16000 limit is definitely from the machine the clients are connecting from, not where the server code is running14:18
bfdi533gpunk, I have done the install with single monitor.  it is after install that I get the lockups.  about 25% of time I connect external monitor I get a lockup.14:19
bfdi533gpunk, also after a) system runs some time with inactivity or b) screen sleeps then I also get a lock up.14:20
gpunkyou have and intel gpu + ? gpu14:20
OerHeksthat 7710 gives a touch screen14:21
OerHeksQuadro M3000M14:22
bfdi533gpunk AMD radeon14:22
bfdi533OerHeks, no touch screen on Precision 771014:22
bfdi533AMD radeon is the onboard GPU and the Intel is secondary14:22
bfdi533gpunk, precisely I have a) Intel Pro P580 and AMD Radeon HD 8890M14:24
gpunkwhat ubuntu are you on ?14:26
acresearchhello people, since yesterday i have been trying to install ToupLite: http://www.touptek.com/download/showdownload.php?lang=en&id=28     which installs successfully but does not run,,,   anyone knows how i can fix it, if i can find it in a more reliable format, or an alternative?14:26
bfdi53318.04LTS14:26
leftyfbacresearch: you'll have to contact Touptek for support. Since their software is not available in the official Ubuntu repositories, it is not supported.14:27
gpunkbfdi533: can you run this ? lshw -C display14:29
bfdi533gpunk, yes, just a minute.  AFK for about 5 minutes and I will then provide output14:32
alephnullI'm trying to get cosmic on an old x61s. I have created a bootable USB drive using unetbootin, dd and bootiso and I cannot get the disk to boot.14:32
OerHeksacresearch, yesterday i gave you an URL with more recent debs, thier code is old and needs heavily tweaking14:32
OerHeks!logs14:32
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/14:32
alephnullI can see a flash of isolinux and then a boot failure.14:32
bfdi533gpunk, here is output:14:37
bfdi533  *-display                         description: VGA compatible controller        product: Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: 83        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller cap_list rom        configuration: driver=radeon latency=0        resources14:37
gpunkand "ubuntu-drivers" ?14:38
gpunkubuntu-drivers list i ment14:39
gpunkthen ubuntu-drivers  devices14:39
bfdi533The two drivers are:14:42
bfdi533       product: Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]14:42
bfdi533       product: Iris Pro Graphics P580        vendor: Intel Corporation14:42
bfdi533"ubuntu-drivers devices" produces no output14:42
gpunkhmm seams like your GPU is supported by amdgpu driver14:46
gpunkbut your ubuntu doesnt say it14:46
acresearchleftyfb: i contacted them, but no answer till now14:49
leftyfbacresearch: ok. Good luck.14:50
acresearchOerHeks: yes, but i could not find any of them in the apt repos14:50
g105bI'm looking for a DE that doesn't take up an inch of space at the top of my screen. Unity (R.I.P.) did this very well and I'm not aware of another DE that works in this way. Unity style local menus with a top bar that doesn't take up space when a window is maximised. Suggestions?14:51
gpunkxfce ?14:52
acresearchxfce is good, but needs heavy tweaking, and i don't know of a way to backup the environment after it is setup14:52
rorygpunk: Come chat in #ubuntu-offtopic - I would recommend MATE for your purupose.14:52
acresearchgpunk: gnome is similar to unity from my point of view in terms of screen space too14:53
rorygpunk: download and try out Ubuntu MATE - it has a tool called MATE Tweak which has a few preset panel arrangements - one of them will likely suit you. If not you can manually rearrange14:53
gpunkit s not for me , but for g105b acresearch14:53
rorysorry14:53
acresearch^ g105b14:53
roryyour names are so similar and also the same colour on my end14:53
acresearchand both start with G making tab autocomplete confusing haha14:53
gpunk:)14:54
g105bI ain't no punk14:54
gpunki aint no number14:54
g105bacresearch: when I maximise anything in gnome there is a top bar, then the application's title bar, then the file-edit-view menu before the window contents... I don't like that.14:55
g105bIf anyone could suggest how to tweak gnome, that'd be great, but I can't figure out how to even start.14:57
acresearchg105b: i personally hide the menu14:58
acresearchfrom view14:58
acresearchi don't think i can do that on all application, but at least the applications that i use 90% of the time  (fire fox, gedit, terminal, files)14:58
g105bI see. Can you hide the top bar too?14:59
acresearchg105b: some applications yes,   yes for terminal and firefox14:59
acresearchi firefox mght get buggy if you do (from experience)   or it may not behave as expected15:00
acresearchtry and see15:00
g105bI mean the top bar of Gnome, with the clock and indicators?15:00
acresearchg105b: hmmm i am not sure15:02
bloonyI've got a server setup where I can only login with key pairs on ssh and I havn't set a password.. but when I try to run chsh to switch to zsh I get a password prompt.. tried just hitting enter, but getting PAM: authentication failed15:02
acresearchyou can in xfce, you can right out delete15:02
acresearchit15:02
g105bI might try xfce but it looks a bit like 2003.15:02
acresearchg105b: and behaves like that too, but some people life the retro feel,  it is not exotic, but dam well functional15:03
g105bI'll give it a try, but I've grown out of editing config files all day.15:05
g105bSo I have little patience.15:05
acresearchg105b: the problem with xfce is the lack of config files,,,, config files you can edit and backup to restore when you updgrade/reformat,   but here everything is GUI which is very difficult to backup15:06
acresearchi can share with you my setup, it is a bit stylish so will not look like 199915:06
g105bHow can you share the setup if there are no config files?15:07
acresearchg105b: the steps15:07
g105bOh I see. Surely they are stored somewhere?15:08
acresearchg105b: https://hastebin.com/ihicanabej.md     mind you these notes are for myself,    so X mean "off" and / means "on"15:12
acresearchthe first line are one big single command15:12
spacemanspiffI'm having trouble booting into Ubuntu (or any modern distro) on my HP ProDesk 400 G4. Legacy boot is the only option available. When I create an 18.04, Debian 9, Fedora 28 USB stick using 'dd', my computer will not see the drive. The only thing I've been able to get to work is CentOS 6. Has something changed in modern images that would cause legacy boot to break?15:15
g105bThanks, I'll give it a try and see how it feels. I think what I'm looking for will inevitably come down to qualitative rather than categorical functionality.15:16
acresearchspacemanspiff: try antergos15:16
acresearchg105b: i agree15:16
gpunkhttps://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/   :)15:18
gpunkif you wanna stay/try gnome315:18
gpunkor search "top bar" at https://extensions.gnome.org15:20
gpunkgnome-shell-extension-autohidetopbar is available natively in ubuntu15:23
spacemanspiffNo luck with the Antergos USB. The system sees my SDD with CentOS 6, but not the USB.15:35
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ioriaspacemanspiff, probably has to do with some disks setup (dynamic/raid vs basic/ahci)15:36
g105bthanks gpunk15:38
gpunk:)15:38
spacemanspiffioria: Wouldn't disk setup fail for every distro?15:39
ioriaspacemanspiff, yes15:39
ioriaspacemanspiff, i mean...  idk how Centos installer works and what is able todetect15:40
ioriaspacemanspiff, i suggest a bios settings checkup15:42
gpunkand/or bios upgrade if possible15:44
cyp3dis php7.2 ever going to be available in apt on ubuntu 16.04?15:54
cyp3dseems that php7.0 is the only one and is EOL in December.15:54
OerHekscyp3d, no, so use a trusted ppa, or upgrade to 18.04 perhaps?15:55
vltcyp3d: Security related fixes usually get backported to earlier versions in LTS.15:56
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cyp3dso the php7.0 default in the LTS will be getting further fixes even past php support?15:57
vltcyp3d: You could check the version history of that package. The name might still be "7.0" but not the same version anymore.15:58
OerHeksfixes yes, features no, if i understand LTS right15:58
vltcyp3d: Yes, OerHeks described it well. If you want *features* of 7.2 you'd have to install explicetely that. If your main concern is security after 7.0's EOL you should be fine. Double-check the package history.16:00
vltcyp3d: There's `ubuntu-support-status`.16:01
OerHeksondrej gives 7.2 or 7.3 rc4 https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/+index?field.series_filter=xenial16:03
cyp3dthanks guys I think security is our main concern atleast at this point so this is reassuring16:04
lolcat-007hello, how can i change the netflix region? i mean how can i watch american netflix?16:24
gpunkgo to america :p16:24
tewardlolcat-007: only way would be a VPN or proxy into the US, but most of those VPNs are known and blocked by Netflix.16:24
gpunkthey probably filter IPs16:24
tewardAlternatively, go to the USA.16:24
lolcat-007hahahaha16:25
gpunkif you have a freind there, he could make for an improvised vpn server16:25
lolcat-007so is not possible to change region16:25
lolcat-007?16:25
tewardlolcat-007: not really, no.16:26
OerHeksyes, but that would be illegal16:26
gpunkno16:26
tewardlolcat-007: any other method to bypass that is so deep in the grey area of legality that it'd be ill adviseid to attempt.16:26
jinkOerHeks: "hahahaha"16:26
cyp3dfind someone with a gigabit connection who will do openvpn for u :)16:27
tewardand you'd need someone US-side on, say, a residential IP to run a VPN gateway/proxy for you to connect through, and that has its own 'problems' as well16:27
cyp3dthe biggest problem is that most ISPs are limited on upload, usually like 30 mbps bandwidth16:27
lolcat-007wow, it is very complicated16:29
lolcat-007back in the day it wasnt like that16:29
gpunknot complicated but heavy16:29
lolcat-007gpunk: by the way gpunk do you listen to punk music16:30
lolcat-007?16:30
gpunkno really16:30
gpunki listen to this www.ancientfm.com16:30
lolcat-007gpunk: i mean if you like punk music16:30
teward!offtopic | lolcat-007, gpunk16:31
ubottulolcat-007, gpunk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:31
lolcat-007cause i do16:31
gpunki dont sorry :p16:31
lolcat-007:)16:31
josefiggood morning, I have a doubt, I'm trying to install ltsp-server-standalone but I'm getting this error like umet dependencies but I don't know how to solve it, this is the log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDDT8yBxj3/16:35
gpunkjosefig: ubuntu version ?16:37
gpunkwhat if you install explicitly openbsd-inetd ?16:37
josefiggpunk: Ubuntu Server - bionic 18.04 LTS16:38
tgm4883josefig: Do you have the universe repository enabled?16:38
tgm4883https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu16:38
josefigtgm4883: let me check16:38
npriceRunning 18.04 server and I'm having an interesting behaviour - moved some NICs around and updated my netplan config to reflect the change. When I boot the machine, the new interface gets the correct static IP, but the moment I plug the old interface into *anything*, it immediately takes over that IP and routes change accordingly. I've tried also assigning the old interface a static IP, but it16:40
npricestill behaves the same way as soon as the link comes up. Anyone have any ideas?  Looked at /etc/network/interfaces as well, but it's all empty.16:40
npriceThe IP from the new interface is literally removed and added to the old interface the moment the link comes up16:40
npriceEven if it's already got a static IP16:40
josefigtgm4883: Thank you, that was the problem.16:41
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tgm4883josefig: yw16:41
kylefoxI just ordered a Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition and am very excited to make the transition from macOS to Ubuntu. But I'm wondering โ€” is there actually anything special about the "Developer Edition" that enables Ubuntu?16:49
kylefoxIt looks like the hardware is the same as the normal (non-developer) XPS models. Anyone know?16:49
TJ-nprice: when you move the NICs about are you hot-plugging, or doing a reboot ?16:50
TJ-nprice: netplan causes config files to be generated under /run/systemd/network/ on boot, so if they're still there that might explain it16:50
TJ-kylefox: I think it is supposed to signal that all the hardware is supported by F/OSS drivers16:51
kylefoxYeah, for sure. Which is a big selling point for me. But it kinda looks like it's the same hardware in all the models anyway ๐Ÿ˜‚16:52
kylefoxI suppose the difference is that if I buy the one with Ubuntu pre-installed, they're more willing to support Ubuntu-related issues I might encounter.16:52
npriceTJ - even with a static IP assigned, it looks like dhcpcd had a cached address for that interface in /etc/dhcpcd.conf - netplan and cloud-init were working properly but dhcpcd was overriding everything16:53
npricegrepped everything in /etc for the interface name lol16:53
TJ-kylefox: a few years ago a couple of the Dell Linux devs used to be quite active in Ubuntu packaging and IRC but I've not noticed them recently16:53
TJ-nprice: it wouldn't be in /etc/ it if is being generated by netplan; it'll be under /run/16:53
npriceTJ- like I said, it wasn't netplan after all though16:54
npricehaha16:54
npricedhcpcd gone rogue16:54
TJ-nprice: Oh, sorry, I totally missed your comment!16:55
katamokylefox I can answer questions on Dell Sputnik but my knowledge is ~1yr out of date16:58
katamokylefox they make a point to keep the windows & linux hardware configuration identical except for blacklisting biometric devices on linux OS(es) and pushing intel wifi over atheros etc more often16:59
kylefoxRight, the fingerprint reader is not present on the linux config17:05
TJ-kylefox: i've never seem much use in the FP reader; the only sane use of it is as a replacement for typing/selecting your username. It's not secure as a password substitute17:06
kylefoxYeah, I have one on my MacBook Pro. The only thing it's been useful for, really, is unlocking my computer from sleep and unlocking 1Password after boot. But I can easily live without both of those uses.17:07
TJ-kylefox: I prefer something less obvious for multi-factor; I quite like the pam-bluetooth module; a particular BT device has to be within range for PAM to authenticate (e.g. BT + password, or BT + yubikey)17:11
kylefoxyeah, that's cool.17:12
TJ-It's shame most PCs don't have NFC because the YubiKey Neo with NFC is very convenient17:12
TJ-I bought a USB NFC dongle especially but it's a bit of a kludge and unweildy for ultra-portables17:13
Rockwoodi wanna setup GCC/MSVC toolchain on my ubuntu17:18
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GumaI just reinstalled my server and desktops to 18.04. I was wondering if there is a way to point all my desktops to my server for updates? The ideas is that I want all my desktops update to latest what is on server in order to keep my desktops on same level.17:50
lotuspsychjeGuma: think the #ubuntu-server channel might be more of help on that17:52
Gumalotuspsychje Thank you. Will take it there17:52
josefigHi, I have installed Ubuntu server 18.04 for LTSP server, I already installed everything but there's left the dnsmasq  someone has information how to set it up with 2 NICs ?17:55
lotuspsychjejosefig: join #ubuntu-server mate for better/specific help17:56
josefiglotuspsychje: oh I didn't know there was a server channel, thanks!17:56
lotuspsychjejosefig: welcome ; )17:57
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nacc_cyp3d: what was your question re: php?18:21
cyp3djust about support for php7.0 in ubuntu1618:22
nacc_cyp3d: ah ok, i think your questionw as probably the same as https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php7.0/+question/675535 ?18:22
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OerHeksfixes, not features, unless there is a valid SRU https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates18:25
naccOerHeks: and, tbc, given there aren't going to be a lot of bugfixes, security fixes only most likely once 7.0 goes eol upstream18:26
gdibassAnyone have experience getting Ubuntu 18.04 on a Touchbar Macbook pro?18:37
lotuspsychjegdibass: i recently install 18.04 on a macbook pro, working like a charm18:37
gdibassYeah?  No issues with the trackpad or anything?18:37
lotuspsychjeeverything was working gdibass18:37
gdibassAwesome, even bluetooth?18:38
gdibassdid you use bootcamp?18:38
lotuspsychjegdibass: i advice you to test a liveusb first18:38
gdibassthat's a good idea haha18:38
lotuspsychjegdibass: no bootcamp, install worked right out of the box18:40
gdibassso wait are you using only ubuntu?  I wanted to keep my OSX partition18:40
lotuspsychjegdibass: just hit the key combo to get your ubuntu usb to load18:40
lotuspsychjegdibass: ah, thats another story i singlebooted indeed18:41
gdibassyeah I'd want to keep both18:41
lotuspsychjegdibass: i dont do dualboots myself, so ill let someone else help you on that18:41
gdibasslol18:41
gdibassfair enough18:42
lotuspsychjeEriC^: ^ one for you :p18:42
gdibassWell it sounds like it's worth messing around with at least18:45
lotuspsychje!uefi | gdibass might start here too18:45
ubottugdibass might start here too: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI18:45
gdibassYeah my desktop runs UEFI18:46
pi0what is the name of x windows that ubuntu 18.10 runs19:48
ducassedo you mean the desktop environment?19:49
ducassethe x implementation is x.org19:50
ducassethe desktop is gnome 319:50
pi0yes19:51
pi0oh ok x windows is -> x.org19:51
pi0window manager is gnome 319:51
pi0that is the proper way to say it?19:51
ducassenot window manager, desktop environment19:51
pi0oh ok19:52
ducassenot sure which wm gnome uses19:52
pi0which wm does gnome use?19:53
ducasseas i said, not sure19:53
pi0ducasse: sounds good, sorry so many terminalogies19:54
pi0not sure how to properly call something19:54
ducassemutter, it looks like19:54
pi0thanks19:58
pi0ducasse: do you recompile your kernel for optimization?20:17
leftyfbpi0: please take non ubuntu support questions to #ubuntu-offtopic20:18
coffeeguyhi i've installed ubunut 18.04 and haven't been able to adjust resolution after installing the nvidia drivers20:19
coffeeguyeven after i go back to xorg drivers20:19
pi0whooops kernel recompile is not ubuntu?20:20
coffeeguyseems like a common problem20:20
coffeeguyis there a quick fix or do i have to reinstall ubuntu20:21
leftyfbpi0: Are you asking how to compile your kernel or for opinions? Opinions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic20:21
pi0oh i was actually asking how, but i see how i worded it20:22
pi0leftyfb: yes, sorry, how do do you do it20:22
leftyfbpi0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel20:23
coffeeguywhat's weird is that the display dialog doesn't recognize my monitor after i switch too nvidia drivers or after i switch bavk20:24
pi0that does not seem too bad20:24
pi0does it matter what type of laptop i have?20:24
OmcseszHello, everyone!20:29
OmcseszI have a question regarding boot from 18.04 DVD20:30
OmcseszI get the following error: disk error 80, ax=425720:30
OmcseszDoes anyone have an answer to that?20:31
guivercOmcsesz, sounds like a disk error to me, faulty-write, download error written to disk thus disk is bad, or dvd-drive having issues with disk media - but I've not seen it before so this is mostly-guess20:33
__andrea__Hi, I'm trying to setup a diskless client; dhcp, tftp and kernel boot are fine, but I can't mount the nfs root filesystem (although I can mount it from a running linux)... any hint?20:35
guivercOmcsesz, i looked online - the most likely cause I saw was a bad-burn, ie. written too fast a speed (usual fix is slow down write)...20:36
pi0leftyfb: are you there20:40
nacc__andrea__: does the client have networking (not the bootloader, the OS) when it tries to mount the nfs root?20:40
__andrea__nacc: how do I check that?20:41
ioria__andrea__, you might need the -o nolock  option to mount : mount -t nfs -o nolock server-ip:/nfsroot /mnt20:45
__andrea__ioria: / is not yet mounted, so I can't access the mount command20:48
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ioria__andrea__, check your /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf20:49
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JadedJWhat is the simplest way to extract a zip file in ubuntu terminal20:53
JadedJunzip command?20:53
leftyfbJadedJ: why are you asking?20:55
JadedJbecause I want to make sure the directory inside the zip file is extracted properly20:56
leftyfbJadedJ: and have you found using the unzip command to extract a zip file incorrectly?20:58
__andrea__the  /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf seems ok, someone else has some hints?21:03
__andrea__I have " kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz" on the kernel boot messages,  is it right or it should also have the options specified with APPEND ?21:05
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nacc__andrea__: that's all that is on your commandline?21:21
nacc__andrea__: you would need to tell the system to, at least, obtain an ip over dhcp21:21
__andrea__nacc: ok, but how do I do it? note that in tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default I have the following line21:23
__andrea__PPEND root=/dev/nfs initrd=/initrd.img nfsroot=192.168.1.97:/srv/nfs/root,tcp ip=dhcp rw nfsrootdebug21:23
__andrea__APPEND21:23
__andrea__however I'm under the impression that the APPEND line is not being considered21:23
se-sm-cais there a way to see the console?  should print out the command line first21:24
naccse-sm-ca: good point21:25
nacc__andrea__: if you are doing network boot, you really want a console21:25
nacc__andrea__: on the tftp server, do you see the default file being loaded?21:26
se-sm-caI don't have much context, but this post has a lot of words matching: https://askubuntu.com/a/101064621:27
naccyes, it does start to matter if there are multiple devices, etc.21:27
__andrea__se-sm-ca: I only have a single network card - for the moment I'm using virtualbox for testing purposes21:28
se-sm-cais it NAT or bridged?21:29
__andrea__bridged, it works fine, i get the address from dhcp, I downlaod the vmlinuz via tftp, it boots the kernel and then it fails to mount the root nfs21:30
nacc__andrea__: that doesn't rule out a networking problem in the guest itself21:31
se-sm-cayea something in the dhcp set up in the OS is broken it seems21:31
se-sm-capxe dhcp's, releases all control to the kernel which has to dhcp again21:32
naccnot the kernel, per se, but userspace in the guest, yeah :)21:32
nacctypically handled by initrd-packaged bits21:33
se-sm-ca~many layers of fun~21:33
tomvolekHI guys, I just installed Ubunt 16.04 on an older Hp DL 365 server with 32G RAM,  desktop comes up , but it is exremly slow.  Top does not show any process hogging memory.  Any suggestions ?21:34
nacctomvolek: what graphics adapter?21:34
tomvoleknacc: How can I check ?  this is a server built in 2009 .  its HP DL365 proliant21:35
tomvolekmayeb I should have installed Ubuntu server vs Ubuntu desktop. but still should be performing a lot better.  Typing is very very slow , etc.21:36
se-sm-calspci | grep -i VGA21:37
nacctomvolek: `lspci` should list it, i think21:37
nacctomvolek: do you actually want a desktop on your server?21:37
tomvoleknacc, I am going to use these for servers, mostly installing things like kafka, spark, jenkins, trying to setup a cluster.21:40
nacctomvolek: yeah, you don't need a desktop21:40
tomvolekdo i need to reinstall ? :)21:41
nacctomvolek: not necessarily, you can just ssh into the server21:44
nacctomvolek: alternatively, you could drop to a tty if you want to use the local keyboard/monitor (ctrl+alt+f2 iirc)21:44
tomvolekI mean my install now is a desktop. If I reboot it will always start up window mangers, etc.  even if i dont have a screen attached to the video port ..21:45
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nacctomvolek: yes21:45
nacctomvolek: well, actually, i forget if that is probe-based or not, but it will probably be running the greeter process at least21:46
quemi need a laptop that is ~13", fairly powerful, thin, light and ubuntu friendly. what do you guys recommend?21:46
tomvolekI think this is a window manger issue with the graphic card.  I am still trying to get VGA output from lspci output :(  its very slow21:46
se-sm-caoof21:46
nacctomvolek: you can also just remove packages from the desktop install21:46
nacctomvolek: even if you drop to a tty?21:46
se-sm-caquem: purism?21:46
tomvoleknacc :  VGA compatible controller: Advance Micro Devices Inc. [AMD/ATI] ES1000 rev 0221:47
quemse-sm-ca: sounds intriguing. do tell more.21:48
tomvolek@nacc I am still on the desktop.  How do I drop to tty ? sorry forgotten21:48
EliteGodctrl+alt+f221:48
se-sm-cahttps://puri.sm/products/librem-13/21:48
nacctomvolek: what EliteGod said21:48
quemahhh. i forgot an important factor, battery life.21:48
__andrea__nacc: se-sm-ca: I've found the issue, it wasn't what you suggested, I had to add an INITRD line to pxe config file: the initrd in the APPEND line was ignored21:49
tomvolektx, let me try ... I am also looking for AMD ATI ES1000 to see if I can find appropriate driver for it.21:49
__andrea__now it runs fine, thanks :)21:49
quemi really like the concept though.21:49
nacctomvolek: that's a pretty old card, i really just don't think it can keep up with modern desktop. You might try a more limited deskopt (lubuntu, xubuntu)21:49
se-sm-casuprisingly close post here https://askubuntu.com/a/865935, so yea, good idea to remove the heavy desktop environment from a server21:49
nacc__andrea__: ah well, that's related. ip= options aren't parsed if youdon't haven an initrd21:49
se-sm-cawellp that makes sense21:50
__andrea__what is confusing is that the initrd was indeed specified in the APPEND line of the config file...21:50
nacc__andrea__: right, but APPEND is passed to the kernel21:51
nacc__andrea__: you need to load the initrd over the network *first*21:51
se-sm-ca+121:51
nacc__andrea__: the kernel doesn't know what an initrd is, really :)21:51
tomvolek@nacc   cool, on tty its fast  , so its the darn graphic card and window manager. Unfortunalty these are some old serves which my work was throwing out . I brought them home to setup a cluster :)21:51
se-sm-caand /initrd is local to the kernel that just loaded21:51
se-sm-cacontext in pxe switches a lot21:52
nacctomvolek: yeah, so i think it might be easiest to reinstall with server than to remove stuff21:52
nacctomvolek: will just be a simpler base at least21:52
nacctomvolek: in my cursory reading, that card has no actuall acceleration, so it's really not suitable for gnome :)21:52
tomvolek@nacc thanks. at least I am at tty now .. shoudl i just remove the desktop from here ?   So if I boot it comes out at tty21:53
ducassetomvolek: ypu can try removing the desktop task, 'apt purge ubuntu-desktop^' (npte the caret)21:54
nacctomvolek: what ducasse said21:54
tomvolekperfect ... I give it a try , worst case I reinstall the Ubuntu server ...21:54
nacctomvolek: yep :)21:55
ducassetomvolek: if you want the default server tools, just do 'apt install ubuntu-server^'21:56
tomvolek@nacc @ducasse  I ran into a problem with Ubunu18.04 with gnome also it woudl not come out, screen would go blank. I had to add a no splash flag to the grub :)21:56
tomvolek@ducasse  I am doing now .. thanks21:56
nacctomvolek: yeah, i think expecting this old of a server to run GUI desktop (the default one) is just not reasonable21:57
tomvolekremoved the desktop, and adding ubuntu-server .. then I try to upgrade to ubuntu 18.04 ...21:58
tomvolek@nacc @ducasse   once I remove ubunut-desktop , if i boot , it should come up on tty , right ?21:58
ducasseyep21:58
tomvolektx guys21:59
nacctomvolek: yw21:59
ducasseyou might need to do an 'apt autoremove'21:59
naccducasse: good point21:59
tomvolekwhat does that do  ?21:59
nacctomvolek: it removes packages not explicitly required any more22:00
nacctomvolek: by removing the desktop task earlier (ubuntu-desktop^) you removed some set of packages. But they may have dependencies installed in turn, whihc are no longer ncessary22:00
tomvoleksounds good22:00
nacctomvolek: autoremove will go find those, ideally22:00
OerHeksincluding kernels22:00
naccOerHeks: yes, true; avoidable by manually specifying them as installed, if that's a concern :)22:01
tomvolek@ducasse @nacc  running apt autoremove says 0 upgrade 0 remove 0 installed22:03
tomvolekI ran apt purge ubuntu-desktop  , apt install ubuntu-server , apt autoremove22:03
ducassedid you include the carets?22:05
tomvolekno :(22:05
apawlI'm noticing a lot of squeezed packets, especially if I'm downloading large files. Like, I can't even SSH in. I've set net.core.netdev_budget rather large with sysctl, but not noticing any improvement. Anything else I should be looking at?22:08
tomvolekapt install ubuntu-server^     says unable to locate pacage ubuntu-server^22:08
apawlI'm running 18.04 and using an Intel X540-AT2 network interface with the ltest drivers.22:09
tomreyntomvolek: i would really recommend you install fresh. using the new server installer it is a really fast and user friendly process (unless you need to add full disk encryption).22:09
tomvolektomreyn: sounds good ,, clean slate22:10
tomreyntomvolek: i'm saying this because there are some not so obvious and some more obvious differences (defaults) between server and desktop installations. and you want those server defaults on a server.22:11
tomvolekfair enough... thanks gents22:11
tomreyntomvolek: and while oyu're at it consider 18.04.1 instead of 16.0422:12
tomvolekexactly :)  downloading 18 now22:13
tomreyni assume you mean 18.04 lts22:13
tomreynthere is not "ubuntu 18", since it just means 'an ubuntu released in 2018', and there are two of those, 18.04 lts and 18.1022:14
tomvolekyes downloading 18.04 lts .22:14
tomreyn:) good choice.22:14
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JustAPersonJust installed nvidia-drivers-410, now my computer won't boot. If I launch into the recovery prompt, about 2 minutes later there are some messages about timing out trying to read /dev/disk-by-id22:40
dedzeHi, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and firefox updated itself in the background today to version 63 and since this time, the color of the highlight of the URL bar has change from light blue to orange. How can I revert it back to light blue please?22:48
spudpndsHeya, I have a question about doing "apt-get upgrade". Let's say that it upgrades the OpenSSL library, do you know if my currently running programs linked against the old shared library get restarted, or is that on me to do?23:08
tomreynspudpnds: most of the time, this is on you to do. the "needrestart" package can help you determine those processes.23:10
tomreynalso "checkrestart"23:10
spudpndsOh very cool, I'll check that out, thanks for the tip!23:11
tomreyn(from package 'debian-goodies')23:11
spudpndsI'm looking at setting up unattended security upgrades on some servers, wondering if it's totally unattended or if I need to bounce nginx from time to time.23:12
tomreyni would assume nginx will get restarted by default, but it depends on decisions the packager has made regarding default and regarding whether you'll be prompted23:13
spudpndsMm, I should try it out and see what happens.23:14
tomreyn(also whether you can technically be prompted matters obviously, with unattended upgrades you cannot)23:14
spudpndsSo I found "needrestart" which I think is the same thing. I should probably just reboot at this point :)23:17
tomreynspudpnds: with unattended upgrades you probably want to use batch mode https://github.com/liske/needrestart/blob/master/README.batch.md , in case you use nagios for monitoring see https://github.com/liske/needrestart/blob/master/README.nagios.md23:21
squarecirclehm23:28
squarecircleOhai, where should I try debugging, when the framebuffers are actually there and the max_resolution also is correct, but xrandr does not show me providers and gnome does not show additional screens?23:28
flynn16Are Guile bytecode files platform independent, and how to package them? `guile-2.2-libs` has bytecode files (*.go) in /usr/lib, whereas `guile-json` has bytecode files in /usr/share, whereas `guile-cairo` does not provide any bytecode file.23:39
squarecircleOhai, where should I try debugging, when the framebuffers are actually there and the max_resolution also is correct, but xrandr does not show me providers and gnome does not show additional screens?23:55

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