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funyunhi. can anyone help me set up lacp? when i try changing my working /etc/network/interfaces (https://pastebin.com/RGtQqnL8) to https://pastebin.com/sWQjuvxG i am no longer able to connect to the internet. can anyone help?03:27
ellyachtI have a laptop with two drives installed a 256GB SSD and a 1TB HDD. I have ubuntu installed on the 256 and win10 on the 1TB. I logged into windows once and now I can't even see the 256 as a option to boot in UEFI any more...03:58
matsamanellyacht: you got a good link in #linux already03:59
duncanm_Hi. I am trying to setup kvm over Kubuntu 18.10. I did the bridged networking setup according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking . However the host says it is not connected to the Internet. Can anybody help?04:12
funyunhi. can anyone help me set up lacp? when i try changing my working /etc/network/interfaces (https://pastebin.com/RGtQqnL8) to https://pastebin.com/sWQjuvxG i am no longer able to connect to the internet. can anyone help?04:14
TerrorbirdJonesdoes anyone here have experience getting a program or exe to run in wine? i am getting an error message.04:20
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Lovepump@TerrorbirdJones some, but I am using steam/Proton. What are you trying to launch?04:28
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Rory_ScrumHi04:45
Rory_Scrum'failed to download repository information' ubuntu 18.04  no solutions i tried via google worked.  please advise04:47
Rory_Scrumcan anyone see my texts ?  this freenode is hard to figure out too04:48
tewardRory_Scrum: need the actual error message, not just the "failed to download repository information" bits04:48
tewardRory_Scrum: pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get update`04:48
teward!pastebin04:49
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:49
Rory_Scrumi tried that, but still get errors04:49
tewardi need to **see** the errors04:49
teward"failed to download repository information" is not a useful error - there's usually OTHER error messages that are visible04:49
tewardthat relate to it04:50
Rory_Scrumhttps://pastebin.com/9Zy4j68a04:51
Rory_Scrumdid the pastebin work ?04:51
tewardRory_Scrum: yes it did04:51
tewarduse `sudo apt update` and it should prompt you to continue/accept04:51
tewardyou want to say "yes"04:51
teward(Google changed the origin value on the repository so apt-secure is complaining)04:52
Rory_Scrum'5 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them'04:53
tewardRory_Scrum: so now run `sudo apt upgrade`04:53
tewardit SHOULD be able to complete the update/upgrade04:53
tewardand you shouldn't get any failed to download repository information errors04:53
Rory_Scrumi uninstalled something from software earlier, i was trying to follow a online fix.   wine something i unchecked.  do i need to put it back ?04:54
Rory_Scrumnope.. i still get the same error message04:55
Rory_Scrumwhy cant unbuntu sort this out04:55
Rory_Scrum'failed to download repository information'04:56
tewardthere's got to be more to that error04:56
tewardpastebin EVERYTHING you see when you run the command04:56
Rory_Scrumi did04:56
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: the user himself is responsible of his oww system04:56
lotuspsychje*own04:56
Rory_Scrumwe are expected to learn this level of debugging just to update?04:56
Rory_Scrumhttps://pastebin.com/udwxR6sk04:57
teward'failed to download repository information' - where're you seeing this exact error?04:58
tewardbecause if it had failed it'd show in the apt-get update04:58
Rory_Scrumsoftware updater04:58
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: you need to debug things because you added external ppa's, wich we dont reccomend/support04:59
Rory_Scrumi just followed online guides of 'what to do after installing ubuntu'05:00
Rory_Scrumeither way, how ot fix it? or just use windows ?  lol05:00
ruby32I'm on Ubuntu 16.10, i try to do apt-get update and it fails because some yakkety files are missing. What do I do? I can't install anything now.05:02
ruby32s/missing/404d05:02
Rory_Scrumyou should kow wat t odo yourself ruby lol.  seems the response here05:02
ruby32How should I know what to do?05:03
lotuspsychjeruby32: 16.10 is end of life now05:03
Bashing-om!yakkety | ruby32 : remove those gets:05:03
ubotturuby32 : remove those gets:: Ubuntu Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on July 20th, 2017. See !eol and https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety05:03
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: please dont do that to users05:03
Rory_Scrumcos everyone is supposed to be a linux master or they get basicallt told they are 'dumb'05:03
ruby32Sarcasm doesn't translate well over text... thanks for the help everyone05:04
ruby32I guess I need to upgrade my server after so many years05:04
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: we also dont reccomend following 'things to do after ubuntu install' randomly grabbed on the web05:04
Rory_Scrumthewy were pretty popular, maybe even official.05:04
Bashing-omRory_Scrum: Not at all .. We were all new at one time .. However, there is a learning curve to all systems .05:04
Rory_Scrumanyway.. how can it screw up my system so bad05:04
lotuspsychje!ppa | Rory_Scrum is why05:04
ubottuRory_Scrum is why: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge05:04
Rory_Scrumi dont want to lear nat this level - dont have to with windows.  im only trying to instal lupodates, not create a program05:05
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: its reccomended to install software from the ubuntu repos as much as possible05:05
Rory_Scrumok, so no fix ?05:06
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: try to answer what teward asked, he was helping you05:06
Rory_Scrumi did05:07
Rory_Scrumim using 'software updater'  and i gave the full terminal text in pastebin05:07
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: we did not see the errors you told us about05:08
Rory_Scrumi get the errors when i run 'sowftare updator'05:09
lotuspsychjeRory_Scrum: can you try to pastebin us: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please?05:09
Rory_Scrumoh.. now it says 'your softwarer on this computer is up to date'  so i guess it works now.. at least it thinks it works05:10
ruby32I fixed my problem by running sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*05:11
ruby32Then doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:11
ruby32I don't know why that worked tbh05:11
ruby32Seems like randomly deleting entire directories would be a bad idea, and that in 2019 there would be a better way to do this05:12
ruby32Idk..05:12
lotuspsychje!eolupgrade | ruby3205:12
ubotturuby32: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades05:12
ruby32Nevermind, it didn't even work05:12
ruby32Thank you lotuspsychje05:12
nick1234I am unable to login to my laptop (Ubuntu 18.04) since morning. I login it takes password then shows a black screen for a second nad then return back to login screen05:12
lotuspsychjeruby32: as an eol non-lts server, would you still trust your server security-wise?05:12
ruby32There's nothing on it that needs to be trusted05:13
Bashing-omruby32: Well, depending on what was in that sources.list.d/ directory. If only 16.10 sources .. all to the good - else time will tell :)05:13
lotuspsychjeruby32: not on production?05:13
ruby32I guess my last comment was technically incorrect. If someone could DDOS the server using a vulnerability from ubuntu16 it would be bad05:14
ruby32It is in production, this is definitely a bad look for me05:14
lotuspsychjeruby32: non-lts and not-updated is very bad way of running an ubuntu server05:15
lotuspsychjeruby32: if i was you, i would install and LTS fresh05:15
ruby32Yeah, this is a huge mistake05:17
ruby32You don't think upgrading is an option?05:17
ruby32I got up to the Update sources.list part in the guide you sent but I'm not sure what to do here05:17
ruby32Editing this file: /etc/apt/sources.list ?05:18
ruby32I've never really messed with aptitude before05:18
lotuspsychjeruby32: you 'can' update if you want05:18
lotuspsychjeruby32: but i would not trust my server anymore after all this time not receiving security updates anymore05:19
lotuspsychjeruby32: will you take the risk updating a compromised server?05:19
ruby32You're right05:20
ruby32I think if there was some malware on that server, even if there's no information on it that could be compromised, if users are connecting to it and someone can compromise their device it's my fault05:21
ruby32I wasn't really thinking about that....05:21
ruby32It is serving a webpage after all05:21
lotuspsychjeyeah ruby32 we smart and choose the lts way :p05:24
lotuspsychjebe05:24
nick1234I am unable to login to my laptop (Ubuntu 18.04). It takes password then shows a black screen for a second & then return back to login screen. I tried removing .Xauthority, I tried reconfiguring lightdm. purginng lightdm and reinstalling it, i tried using gdm instea of lightdm. But to no avail06:26
nick1234can any one help me06:27
Bashing-omnick1234: At the login screen ' ctl+alt+f2 ' Can you log into the sytem here ?06:39
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kalikatzdoes ssh in ubuntu 18.04 still suffer the problem with #ChrootDirectory %h where using it requires you to set the home directory to root:root, and not using #ChrootDirectory %h allows the user to cd .. ?07:17
tomreynkalikatz: is this a bug which was reported?07:23
nick1234Bashing-om, sorry for latereply yes i can login there07:26
Bashing-omnick1234: Great - now what shows for a driver in the configuration line from ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?07:29
nick1234Bashing-om, here: http://termbin.com/wt2p07:33
nick1234driver=i915 latency=007:33
Bashing-om nick1234: Well - so much for that thought ... Intel, and a driver is loaded .. is the GPU manager happy ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?07:36
nick1234gpu-manager.log here: http://termbin.com/dkqh07:37
Bashing-omnick1234: Hummmm " Number of connected outputs for /dev/dri/card0: 107:41
Bashing-omDoes it require offloading? yes07:41
Bashing-omnick1234: we get any hints from Xs log ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' ? ( placement of the log depends on the release )07:43
nick1234Xorg.0.log =>> Xorg.ohttp://termbin.com/k9ej07:46
nick1234theres Xosr.1.log and Xorg.failsafe.log also in the directory07:46
kalikatztomreyn: yes, but alot of random bits of none fully functioning ideas. Doesn't appear to be fixed. i dont know for sure. https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2009-May/027651.html07:47
kalikatzi wanted to use the sftp as its already implemented and ports established.  just having issues with one way, users unable to create folders to other ways that allow them to leave the home folder07:49
kalikatzdidnt want to but i guess i need vsftp07:50
tomreynkalikatz: can you point to the bug report?07:50
tomreynmy understanding so far is that the requirement for root:root on the chroot directory is not actually a bug but a requirement based on the design of the openssh patch which adds the ChrootDirectory functionality.07:51
kalikatzno, wasnt looking for bugs, was looking for solutions.  pointing to a but would force me to fall back into the pit, ive spent 3 hrs on this already. was just looking to see if anyone found using ssh's sftp just as frustrating as i did07:51
kalikatzyes i got that requirment as well. but then had issues making a simple dropbox usable by said ftpuser07:52
tomreynkalikatz: do you want to set up a user with a shell, or one which only has sftp access?07:53
kalikatzthe web has been helpful in pointing me to 2 undesirable sulloutions.  i need a 3rd, lol07:53
kalikatzhave alread ssh shells, work fine.  just has a friend outside my net want to ftp.  didnt want to complicate him, so enabling ftp should hae been a 3 mn job07:54
tomreynftp or sftp?07:55
tomreynyou're mixing things up.07:55
tomreynplease don't claim that bugs exist when you are not ready to point to a bug report.07:55
tomreynsetting up an sftponly user is very easy in current ubuntu versions07:56
Bashing-omnick1234: Above my skills to know if this is relevant, "ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1" but X is setting " (++) using VT number 8" .07:56
kalikatzi have ssh  so made sence to use the 'sftp'.  that has problems that i was unable to figure out in the past 3 hrs.   so option 3 is to install vsftpd to just use 'ftp'07:56
kalikatzdidnt say a bug existed, did I?07:56
kalikatzthe best case I had was once sftp logged in, I was able to cd .. and see parent folders07:57
nick1234you mean i run ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1 and tell you the result07:58
nick1234?07:58
tomreynkalikatz: you said that "ssh in ubuntu suffered a problem", which, to me, sounds like you're stating it is buggy.07:59
tomreynkalikatz: have you read the "ForceCommand" section in sshd_config ?07:59
Bashing-omnick1234: No, I just advising that I do not know where that change takes place - or why.08:00
tomreyn*sshd_config(5)08:00
nick1234oh08:00
nick1234so what could resolve my problem08:00
kalikatztomreyn: yes i used the forceCommand and chroot.  basically followed https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-setup-sftp-server-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-with-vsftpd.  but then found I couldnt create folders. I need the chrootdirectory to point to /home/ftpuser, except the ssh-server doesnt like that and responds with broken pipes08:05
tomreynkalikatz: why donjt you just use internal-sftp?08:07
Bashing-omnick1234: I honestly have no idea ... have you tried to activate a guest session ,, see if the issue then is in your user account configs ?08:08
kalikatztomreyn: yes tried internal-sftp as well and the one defaulted in sshd_config. remarking them back and forth to conclude either makes no diffrence.   On a side note, i just installed vsftpd and ftp into an account and also noticed i was able to cd .. and see the home folders.   this does not work either08:12
kalikatzmaybe vsftpd configs?  lol  you wuld think thats a default08:14
Bashing-omnick1234: Not that I want to leave you high and dry .. but I got to go to bed .08:18
nick1234it does not have guest access08:18
nick1234its ok Bashing-om . I appreciate your help08:19
nick1234anyone else want to help me ??08:19
Bashing-omnick1234: Might just verify that "you" have access ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' .08:21
tomreynkalikatz: i'Ve been using this in the past and it worked fine for me https://debian-administration.org/article/590/OpenSSH_SFTP_chroot_with_ChrootDirectory08:23
nick1234HEre : http://termbin.com/e8n808:25
kalikatzok, still having issues with vsftpd, ill give it another go, with your link, thanks so much, but i have to take a 10 min break.  i think its rumsies time :)  back in 1508:25
tomreynnick1234: is this system fully patched?08:39
nick1234by fully patched you mean all updates installed, then yes all the recent ones08:40
tomreynnick1234: yes, that's what i mean specifically, you should have all the default APT sources enabled, "sudo apt-get update" should report that update succeeded without warnings or errors, and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should exit without installing anything.08:42
nick1234just a min08:43
Rhaegar1982.ping08:51
tomreynRhaegar1982: do you need any ubuntu support?08:51
tomreynRhaegar1982: looks like your irc client is buggy, writing ".ping" into every channel you join after connecting.08:54
Rhaegar1982no tomreyn08:54
Rhaegar1982just testing someth08:54
Rhaegar1982there is a bug that response to .ping08:54
nick1234tomreyn, there are some updates i have started update it will take some time.08:54
nick1234i will let you know as soon as it finishes08:55
tomreynnick1234: i may not be around then, so please just re-state your question / summarize the issue again. be sure to post the latest (timestamp) X log, this can be in /var/log/ or (more likely) in ~/.local/share/xorg/ . please also discuss your hardware, and / or post dmesg and journalctl -b09:05
nick1234tomreyn, ok. Thanks09:08
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lotuspsychjenick1234: was this an lts upgrade or clean install?09:21
kalikatztomreyn: if your still about. i did finally get something working. i removed vsftpd and went back to configur sshd_config with your link . only think i was able to do was setup a dropbox folder instide the users that they will have to go into. not sure how to get it to log right into it everytime. bt i guess it ok this way. at least they cant backout of the chrootdirectory09:30
pragomerin ubuntu 18.04 gnome all windows and programs open on the wrong monitor: the right one should be primary, the left one secondary. it is defined like that, but windows open on the left one.09:39
pragomerhow can I fix this?09:39
neurrehi09:40
neurreI'm looking for video trimming software09:40
neurreone which can trim videos without re-encoding09:40
kalikatzpragomer: I dont have the second monitor currently, but I do recall a "default" option09:42
kalikatzpragomer: in the system settings -> displays is there a "primary display" or "set as default"?09:43
lotuspsychjeneurre: pitivi, or even vlc can record parts of movies withe the record button09:43
lotuspsychjeneurre: openshot or flowblade also video editing09:44
neurreall i need is trimming09:45
neurretrying pitivi first09:45
neurrethat did not go well09:46
neurrei got kicked out of my X11 session when I launched pitivi :D09:46
neurreokay so pitivi is not good09:48
pragomeryes, the right monitor is set as "primary", like it should be09:48
neurrei think it may try to use my gpu but driver is not good :/09:48
lotuspsychjeneurre: just installed & tested here, works like a charm09:49
neurreyeah will I have nvidia09:49
neurrei suspect it has something to do with that09:49
neurrealso my login screen is super sluggish09:49
neurrewhen I login to my desktop everything is fine09:49
neurrenot sure what that is all about09:49
neurrelike https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240006509:50
pragomermm, it now works normally.. could have been a temporary issue09:50
pragomerthanks in anyway09:50
lotuspsychjeneurre: check with sudo lshw -C video09:50
neurreproduct: GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 6GB]09:51
neurrethat is correct09:51
lotuspsychjeneurre: driver= at bottom?09:51
neurreno09:51
neurreconfiguration: driver=nouveau latency=009:51
neurreoh09:51
lotuspsychjeneurre: yeah switch to the nvidia driver, on gtx we reccomend the ubuntu graphics ppa09:52
neurredoh :D09:52
neurrei thought i had nvidia driver installed09:52
neurreapparently now09:52
neurrenot09:52
lotuspsychjeneurre: or ubuntu-drivers list09:52
neurreoh right i installed nvidia drivers on the laptop, not on this machine..09:52
lotuspsychjeneurre: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa09:54
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freakynlAnyone well versed in kernels / bootloaders here? Trying to solve an issue with an Apple iMac 18,1 not showing any display. If I use a stick with Ubuntu 18.10 ISO dd'ed onto it there's screen. If I take another stick, copy the grub bootloader (and shim), kernel and the initrd to another stick, grub will start loading the kernel, but there's no display any more. No clue what's going wrong there09:58
freakynlunfortunately :/. After loading the kernel and initrd into RAM and grub kicking off the kernel (at least I hope it does) there's no more output whatsoever09:58
lotuspsychjefreakynl: i tested 18.04.1 recently on different macs with success09:59
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lotuspsychjefreakynl: hitting the boot key combo, to see your ubuntu usb media, then try or install ubuntu fromt he live10:00
lotuspsychjefreakynl: i did not test 18.10 yet sorry10:00
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pagios hi all, i did a modprobe v4l2loopback and i got /dev/video0 how can i get /dev/video1 , 2 ,3 ,4 ?10:04
nick1234tomreyn, hi, all the updates are now installed and dist update exits without installing anything10:05
lotuspsychjenick1234: tomreyn might be afk for now, try to re-state your question to the channel please10:05
nick1234lotuspsychje, yes, sure10:06
nick1234I was unable to login to my laptop (Ubuntu 18.04). It takes password then shows a black screen for a second & then return back to login screen.10:07
nick1234it was running fine untill yesterday, I shutdown it last night, (I usually dont, i close the lid and it goes to hibernate) today i restarted and it is on login-loop10:07
nick1234so far i have tried changing lightdm to gdm and gdm to lightdm but problem still exists10:08
nick1234Xorg.0.log is here : http://termbin.com/6oyu10:11
nick1234dmesg is here : http://termbin.com/cse810:12
nick1234journalctl -b is here : http://termbin.com/7wk810:13
Triffid_Hunternick1234: ~/.xsession-errors would be more useful I think10:16
nick1234sure. just a min10:17
nick1234Triffid_Hunter, .xsession-errors is here : http://termbin.com/i3zy10:19
Triffid_Hunternick1234: cat not found? wow, something's very weird with your system10:20
Oolnick1234: do you need a graphical driver ? is it working ? Can you log in into a tty with access to your /home ?10:21
Triffid_Hunternick1234: I guess that script needs to include /etc/profile or something10:21
nick1234every time i restart it i have to manually export path /usr/bin etc10:22
nick1234yes i can login to tty and have access to my home10:22
Triffid_Hunternick1234: well whatever's broken your system environment seems to also be causing your X session to barf10:23
nick1234ok, now how do i fix it. Yesterday i installed one software(appimage) could it be the reason?10:24
Triffid_Hunternick1234: doubt it, but something has hosed your /etc/profile or wherever ubuntu puts system env10:25
nick1234cant i rewrite it?10:26
Triffid_Huntersure, go for it10:26
nick1234how?? (not an expert)10:26
Triffid_Hunternick1234: I'm no ubuntu expert, I guess you'd have to ask dpkg what package provides /etc/profile then ask it to reconfigure10:27
nick1234there is "etc/profile.d" not "etc/profile" BTW10:28
ducassenick1234: have you got /etc/environment?10:31
nick1234Triffid_Hunter, yes, you pointed me in the right direction. problem solved10:35
nick1234here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/381340/how-to-reset-profile-to-default10:35
Triffid_Hunternick1234: great! :)10:35
nick1234i recently installed flutter and android studio to machine and had to set some environment variables for it. I think somehow that messed it up. I had not restarted machine so it was working i shout it down last night and it stopped working10:36
nick1234anyways. Thanks a lot to you guys. Awesome community.10:37
tomreynkalikatz: set the users' home director to /dropboxpath (/ there is the chroot directoy)10:41
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BluesKajHowdy all11:35
azi`I have a .ssh file that links me to a remote server so that I don't have to use ssh logins. using this method I forgot the password on the rmeote server11:59
azi`is there a way to move the .ssh file to a third server so that I can access this remote server?12:00
freakynlazi`: I have no clue what a .ssh file is. Normally this works with a keypair and you need the private part. It's usually ~/.ssh/idrsa or newer ~/.ssh/ecdsa12:00
freakynl(or older ~/.ssh/dsa)12:01
azi`freakynl: I meant .ssh folder. I think I am on it yes12:01
freakynlazi`: sorry, file names are id_rsa, id_ecdsa, id_dsa and should be located under ~/.ssh/12:02
freakynlYou normally only need 1 if multiple exist, but you need the one from which the public part was put on the remote system12:02
freakynlAlternatively, just log on from the machine that has the keys and run 'passwd' to set the password to something new (so you know it).12:04
freakynlazi`: Did you manage to get it working?12:09
azi`freakynl: jup working =)12:10
freakynlYou might wanna run passwd as well if you don't know the password, but SSH can be configured to not allow password authentication. Several distro's do this by default for the root account.12:10
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azi`freakynl: i can't change the password though as I don't have it12:12
freakynlOh duh, my bad, I normally run passwd as root haha (don't need the current one then)12:17
BluesKajthere's nothing bad, it's just a mistake12:18
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jk^hi how can i open a cd on ubuntu?13:13
jk^lubuntu for the precision13:13
lotuspsychjejk^: terminal => eject13:13
jk^not eject13:14
jk^open its content13:14
lotuspsychjejk^: with the file browser on lubuntu13:14
jk^i don't understand how to do... it has some folders and an autorun.exe13:14
jk^an index.html13:14
jk^autorun.inf13:14
jk^dicomdir.inf13:15
jk^and an image13:15
lotuspsychjejk^: autorun is the automatic launch from windows, you could try that from wine13:15
lotuspsychjejk^: or open the html file with a browser13:16
jk^if i tru to open image it says: "couldn't recognize di image file format"13:16
lotuspsychjejk^: what kind of cdrom is it exactly? a game? a driver cd?13:17
lotuspsychjejk^: you could try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/autorun13:19
jk^^Hospital give it to me, it contains diagnostic results13:22
jk^^lotuspsychje,13:22
ioriayes, it's a radiology thing13:23
lotuspsychjejk^^: you can browse the html file with a webbrowser13:23
ioriajk^^, try with dicomscope or better install the gimp snap13:23
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lotuspsychjejk^^: do you see dicom files on that cd?13:26
jk^^in fact there is two file which is named "dicomedir" (image, but i can't open it, error file format) and dicomdir.inf13:26
jk^^what's dicomscope?13:27
ioria!info dicomscope13:27
ubottudicomscope (source: dicomscope): OFFIS DICOM Viewer. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.6.0-18 (bionic), package size 521 kB, installed size 731 kB13:27
jk^^gimp is already installed, gimp snap is a different one?13:27
ioriajk^^, yep13:27
ioriajk^^, more features, i mean13:28
ioriajk^^, first try with dicomscope or imagej13:28
jk^^it was installing wine, but it told me that's impossible to donwload some packages13:37
lotuspsychjejk^^: what was installing wine, and wich packages failed?13:38
jk^^in the index.html there'is person data and a link "Dicom viewer" i click it but "page is not found"13:39
jk^^it redirects to ..../viewerwin/eFILMlt.exe13:40
jk^^and it can't find it13:40
jk^^i guess the guy who create this cd is very idiot13:40
jk^^a link to an inexistent file?13:40
lotuspsychjejk^^: try this online: http://dicomviewer.booogle.net/13:40
lotuspsychjejk^^: one way or another, you can make this work on ubuntu, did this myself in the past13:41
Captain_Haddockjk^^: Check the folders in the CD to see what type the data files are.13:44
Captain_HaddockAnd did the hospital specify that your x-rays or other reports are on the CD or if it only contains a viewer.13:45
lotuspsychjeif i can recall, i just opened the xrays with the ubuntu image viewer13:46
Captain_HaddockIndeed. I doubt that they are in some proprietary format.13:46
Captain_HaddockThey're probably PDFs or TIFFs.13:47
jk^^Captain_Haddock, various folders and files13:48
jk^^.exe13:48
jk^^.dll13:48
jk^^.inf13:48
jk^^.dic13:48
Captain_Haddockjk^^: if you are familiar with the command line, go to the CD's root directory and run "find ." and copy-paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com.13:52
Captain_HaddockThis will list all the files on the CD.13:52
lotuspsychjegood idea Captain_Haddock13:52
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hexhaxtronCan someone help me make the Compose Key work?13:55
leftyfbnot within 30 seconds, no14:00
leftyfbsorry, 1.5 minutes14:00
CoolerZhelp please, i am trying to install docker ce on ubuntu 18.04 lts14:02
CoolerZbut i am getting this error https://paste.debian.net/plain/105777114:02
jk^^Captain_Haddock, ok i'll try14:03
tomreynCoolerZ: ppa:daniel.pavel/solaar does not (no longer?) exist - this is what "404  Not Found" suggests14:04
tomreynhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/daniel.pavel/solaar/ubuntu/dists/ doe snot list "bionic"14:04
CoolerZtomreyn, so do i remove it?14:20
CoolerZi installed a app called solaar that is supposed to manage logitech mouses and keyboard peripherals14:21
CoolerZthats the repo that is giving the error message14:21
lotuspsychjeCoolerZ: solaar is on the official ubuntu repos14:23
tomreynCoolerZ: the ppa serves no purpose, causes an error, breaks apt. most lilely removing it is a good idea.14:24
tomreynif you installed the package, you did so from ubuntu proper, not from the ppa.14:25
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CoolerZtomreyn, so what does that mean?14:31
CoolerZhow to remove14:31
CoolerZdo i have to uninstall the app and reinstall?14:31
tomreynCoolerZ: apt-add-repository --remove ppa:daniel.pavel/solaar14:31
tomreyn+sudo14:31
tomreynto find out where solaar is available from: apt-cache policy solaar14:32
PsychoBoBGuys14:38
PsychoBoBMy notebook dell using ubuntu 1814:38
PsychoBoBbut I have no sound14:38
PsychoBoBwhy ?14:39
jk^^jk^^: if you are familiar with the command line, go to the CD's root directory and run "find ." and copy-paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com.14:41
jk^^not so familiar14:41
jk^^how to go to cd's root?14:41
jk^^what have i to type?14:41
j0sephtype "cd /"14:41
j0sephThat should take you to root14:41
PsychoBoBjk^^, is it to me?14:41
j0sephBut, as for the CD's root directory..14:42
j0sephWell, what directory are you trying to look through, first?14:43
j0sephjk^^: ^14:43
PsychoBoBsomeone?14:44
PsychoBoBcan helpme?14:44
cryptodanPsychoBoB: did you have sound via live session prior to installation14:45
jk^^Captain_Haddock,14:46
jk^^j0seph, cd's root14:46
cryptodanyou would do cd /root14:47
PsychoBoBcryptodan,14:52
PsychoBoBi'm back14:52
PsychoBoBsorry i dont speak english native14:52
PsychoBoBcan i restart sound ?14:52
cryptodanPsychoBoB: reboot with your installation media and try sound there14:53
PsychoBoBcryptodan, I dont have the installer14:54
cryptodanrecreate it via redownloading PsychoBoB14:55
jk^^ok14:59
PsychoBoBcryptodan, have other way?14:59
PsychoBoBinstall other driers?14:59
PsychoBoBdrivers14:59
jk^^jk^^: if you are familiar with the command line, go to the CD's root directory and run "find ." and copy-paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com.14:59
PsychoBoBcheck what is my driver of sound?14:59
jk^^before typing "find ."14:59
jk^^how to go in the cd root?14:59
jk^^what have i to type?14:59
cryptodanPsychoBoB: you need to try via live session first as your sound may not even have support15:00
coz_jk^^,  cd /    I believe15:00
cryptodanjk^^: cd /root15:01
Captain_HaddockHe's inserted a CDROM and wants to list its contents using find.15:01
Captain_Haddockjk^^: It's usually within the /media directory IIRC.15:01
BluesKajdoes nautilus have a removeable devices list?15:03
BluesKajlike dolphin15:03
coconutjk^^: there has been some confusion threw time about folder... please forget the "cd /" advise above.15:03
TJ-jk^^: "lsblk" will show you what devices are present and where their file-systems are mounted, if at all. "sr0" is usually the first 'SCSI Read-Only' device15:04
coz_jk^^,  i would do a sudo -i first then the cd /   I think that might prove easier I guess15:05
TJ-coz_: that makes no sense at all, for listing a mounted CD-ROM !15:06
coconutcoz_: jk^^ got advise to ls the cdrom content because he needed to view some (in windows contented) files from hospital.15:06
coz_TJ-, I must have come in after thaat was mentioned, thinking it was a file15:06
coz_coconut, understood now thanks for the correction ")15:07
coconutwhich was just to see how to open some files15:07
coconut:)15:07
jk^https://pastebin.com/raw/KdtmBVCA15:07
TJ-jk^^: if the CD-ROM media was auto-mounted it'd be done by udisks, which usually mounts devices under the current user's control starting at /media/$USER/$MEDIA-NAME/15:07
jk^i joined from the other pc15:07
TJ-jk^: I see you find the 'root' of the CD's ISO9660 file-system mount15:08
Captain_Haddockjk^: Looks like the images are within the images/esame0 directory.15:10
Captain_Haddockjk^: There's also a bunch of HTML files there that probably embed them.15:10
jk^^i guess15:11
jk^^autorun.exe is the main file to open15:11
jk^^do i wrong?15:11
Captain_Haddockjk^^: Go to your file browser and navigate to this directory and try opening either the HTML files or the .jpg files that you can see.15:11
Captain_Haddockjk^^: The JPG files are ones like this: ./images/esame0/1.2.840.113564.19216821221.2018121017083846881/jpg/img1.jpg15:12
legreffiervieux ? https://twitter.com/Nag_FR/status/107651210381561446415:13
Captain_HaddockTJ-: Am I right in assuming that ddrescue will also copy empty blocks? Do these occupy space in the output file?15:14
legreffieroops, wrong window.15:14
coz_legreffier,  I was wondering why that was here %)15:15
TJ-Captain_Haddock: yes, and it depends (on whether you use the --sparse option, and the target file-system supports sparse files)15:15
jk^^i already tried Captain_Haddock15:15
Captain_HaddockTJ-: So if I run ddrescue on a 500GB drive, the output file will always be 500GB (without the sparse option)?15:17
jk^^some images i can open15:17
jk^^but i need to open the entire cd content15:17
jk^^maybe it's structured in a program15:17
jk^^in a software15:17
jk^^i see an autorun.exe15:17
lotuspsychjejk^^: autorun is for windows, i already told you before15:18
lotuspsychjejk^^: you can try with wine, or the autorun method on ubuntu as i linked before15:19
TJ-Captain_Haddock: correct15:19
Captain_HaddockTJ-: Cheers.15:19
Captain_Haddockjk^^: Are the images not the ones you want?15:19
jk^^i open them randomly15:22
jk^^i guess it contains many other info15:22
jk^^Captain_Haddock,15:23
Captain_Haddockjk^^: You can try opening the HTML files within the images directory. But it's up to you to make sense of this information.15:25
lotuspsychjejk^^: probably your cdrom contains also the self viewing software for all the images + the 3D turning for windows enviroment15:25
PsychoBoBguys15:25
PsychoBoBsomeone help me with sound of ubuntu15:25
lotuspsychjePsychoBoB: cryptodan was helping you15:26
PsychoBoBI dont have installar15:26
PsychoBoBmy net is slow15:26
PsychoBoB3G15:26
PsychoBoBI want to reset sound15:27
jk^^Captain_Haddock, index.html open a simple page with person's data15:27
tomreyn!sound | PsychoBoB15:27
ubottuPsychoBoB: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.15:27
jk^^but not any other info about the diagnostic exam15:27
jk^^just a link "Dicom viewer" but i don't know what it is15:27
lotuspsychjejk^^: the diagnose is only for your doctor, will mostly not include on the cdrom15:27
tomreynPsychoBoB: if your internet access is too slow / limited now, then download and prepare the live system some other time when you have better internet access.15:28
Captain_Haddockjk^^: There are other html files within the images/esame0 directory that you can try.15:28
jk^^i tried several of them, but it opens pages empty15:29
Captain_Haddockjk^^: Then your best bet is to find someone with a Windows system. But I doubt that there's anything more to the CD than these jpgs.15:30
tomreynPsychoBoB: in many places you can also find local ubuntu groups who will be happy to sell you an installer cd / usb stick. or you can buy it online.15:30
lotuspsychjejk^^: another idea could be let shotwell scan your new cdrom pictures15:30
lotuspsychjePsychoBoB: or a nearby wifi to download the iso15:31
jk^^ok tnx all15:32
jk^^how to let shotwell scan=15:32
jk^^?15:32
lotuspsychjejk^^: drag n drop your cdrom contents to your computer, then open shotwell15:33
lotuspsychjejk^^: or import from your cdroms folder15:34
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jk^^ok i opened shotwell15:41
jk^^but how to let it scan the contents?15:41
jk^^lo15:41
jk^^lotuspsychje,15:41
cryptodanyou navigate to the folders via file and open15:42
lotuspsychjejk^^: import==> choose your cd rom dir15:42
tomreynfirst option on the first main menu15:43
jk^ok15:44
americanwookie[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~15:50
lotuspsychjeamericanwookie: can we help you?15:50
americanwookieUh15:50
americanwookieSorry about that, I didn't realize it was going to the channel.15:51
americanwookieBut! If you're asking! Do you know anything about copymods? I asked yesterday, and wasn't able to find anyone who could help me understand why I needed it, and if I was using it wrong.15:51
TJ-americanwookie: -copymods is only needed when booting on a VM hypervisor that provides the kernel/initrd external to the gust15:53
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uniquewirehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GHhJrxdPNW/16:05
lotuspsychjeuniquewire: do you have unrar installed?16:08
uniquewirelotuspsychje: I have it installed, but the file I'm trying to extract is .zip, I can extract by opening the archive manager but not when clicking on the "Extract Here" on the menu.16:10
lotuspsychjeuniquewire: p7zip then maybe?16:11
cryptodanor apt install unzip16:12
AllanLinuxHey guys. I'm running a script to get files from a server to Linux, but I always get: scp: ambiguous target. The file path has no spaces, very strange.16:13
AllanLinuxsshpass -p "$PASSW" scp -v -d -t $USER@$SERVER:"E:/Backup/PortalComunicacao/PortalComunicacao_backup_`date +%d-%m-%Y`*.bak" /opt/Allan16:14
OolE: ?16:15
uniquewirelotuspsychje: It's also installed, I can extract the file just fine but only by opening the archive manager, I can't right-click on the archive and use "Extract Here"16:16
AllanLinuxYep, It is a Windows server. I'm on Linux pulling Windows backups with SCP.16:16
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AnnoyedGreetings16:30
AnnoyedI've just installed 18.04.1 server, and I can't seem to get netplan to configure my inside interface16:30
OolAnnoyed: https://netplan.io/16:31
AnnoyedThe outside interface works fine with the ISP, connection is fine, but I need to configure a 2nd card for the inside network (this is a server, head end for my inside network)16:32
Oollook the examples16:33
pragmaticenigmaAnnoyed: This might be a better question asked in the @ubuntu-server channel16:33
Oolyou can configure each nic16:33
pragmaticenigmaoops: #ubuntu-server16:33
AnnoyedOh, should I be in #ubuntu-server? I gather desktop uses one system and server another16:34
AnnoyedThanks, I'll try that.16:34
pragmaticenigmaAnnoyed: They are the same core systems, #ubuntu-server is more centered to server configurations16:34
AnnoyedI thought desktop used something called Networkmanager, which is a GUI16:36
TJ-Annoyed: you'd need to show us the netplan YAML and the list of interfaces you want to configure16:38
pragmaticenigmaAnnoyed: They each have different ways of configuring the network, but the underlaying network is still the same between the two16:38
TJ-Annoyed: NetworkManager is a system service, not a GUI. It has a gnome GUI tool called nm-applet for talkinf to the service to configure the network16:38
TJ-Annoyed: NM also has commandline (nmcli) and TUI (nmtui) interfaces16:39
AnnoyedTJ- This is my current attempt   /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml   It does not work16:40
Annoyednetwork:16:40
Annoyed    ethernets:16:40
Annoyed        enp3s0:16:40
Annoyed            addresses: []16:40
Annoyed            dhcp4: true16:40
pavlosAnnoyed: please pastebin the file16:40
TJ-!paste | Annoyed16:42
ubottuAnnoyed: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:42
Annoyedhttps://pastebin.com/8zz452tX16:42
AnnoyedThat does not work16:43
Annoyedifconfig shows the interface, but it is not getting the address16:43
Ooldont put addresses if dhcp on16:43
TJ-Annoyed: remove the "addresses: []" line16:43
TJ-Annoyed: you might also want "dhpc6: true" as an additional line16:43
Annoyedenp5s0 - DHCP is off16:44
TJ-grr, typo, "dhcp6: true"16:44
Annoyedenp3 is the outside, dhcp is needed there, and that works16:44
TJ-Annoyed: OK, sorry, I need to look at the pastebin :D16:45
TJ-Annoyed: so you've got "optional: true"16:45
TJ-Annoyed: does that interface get an address eventually, after boot?16:46
AnnoyedNo, it doesn't16:46
TJ-Annoyed: check what the systemd-networkd config generated by netplan is: look in /run/systemd/network/16:47
Annoyedhttps://pastebin.com/H3SXcFK116:51
Annoyedtwo files in there, contents in pastebin16:52
maarten62Test16:52
TJ-Annoyed: that looks correct, assuming there is an enp5s016:53
AnnoyedThere is. https://pastebin.com/wKH5kVwq16:55
TJ-Annoyed: is the NIC active and up? use "ip link show dev enp5s0" and also "sudo ethtool enp5s0" to check state16:56
AnnoyedOk, I think it shows down, but there's nothing plugged into it right now.16:59
Annoyedifconfig says its there though.. I haven't yet installed the DHCP server package, so it wouldn't be able to hand out an IP to a device connected to it.. I'm trying to configure the interface first17:00
TJ-Annoyed: you cannot configure it until there's a cable plugged in!17:00
AnnoyedYou could in the old system, /etc/network/interfaces17:01
TJ-Annoyed: well, technically *you* can (manually) but the system tools react to the interface being UP and online17:01
TJ-Annoyed: entries in /etc/network/interfaces is the same as /etc/netplan/*~/run/systemd/network/* - but that config won't take effect until the NIC comes UP17:04
locu128Annoyed: for something embedded i foolishly tried using networkmanager and could never get it to work write based on messing around with plan files, i suggest using nmcli17:04
TJ-locu128: what problem did you hit with that?17:05
AnnoyedOk, so if I plug something into that ethernet port just to get it to see a connection it might come up?17:05
TJ-locu128: I know that some netplan options are not supported in some renderers, most are noted in "man netplan"17:05
Annoyedor show as configured?17:05
locu128TJ-: same issue with the ip address without a cable connected, some software would connect to ip addresses like "192.168.0.1" but nm wouldn't give you that17:06
TJ-Annoyed: yes, once the link is up the config will be applied immediately17:06
AnnoyedOk, give me a few to try that17:06
TJ-locu128: pretty sane behaviour really :) an interface with an IP address usually infers some kind of connectivity17:06
TJ-locu128: I believe there are options to force a link to be set but that may only be in systemd-network17:07
AnnoyedOk, that seems to have worked.17:11
AnnoyedThe laptop I connected can't connect thru it, but that's cause the DHCP server software isn't installed yet. ifconfig shows it ok though17:11
locu128TJ-: this was busybox, things are strange there17:13
AnnoyedThanks, I never would have thought of that.17:13
TJ-Annoyed: For testing you should be able to assign an address manually with "sudo link set up dev enp5s0; sudo ip addr add 172.16.0.254/12 dev enp5s0"17:15
AnnoyedThat won't assign an  IP to the laptop; that laptop expects whatever it connects to to hand it an IP, and the dhcp server isn't installed yet.17:16
TJ-Annoyed: correct; this is for configuring this interface17:17
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TJ-in case you might want some system-service to bind to this specific IP address, rather than the 0.0.0.0 'all'17:18
AnnoyedI just expected that ifconfig would read what I set up in netplan regardless of anything plugged in or not17:18
TJ-ifconfig isn't involved at all, that is a legacy tool17:19
TJ-systemd-networkd does it all directly, and for userspace the iproute2 tools (ip ....) have been the standard for a long time now17:20
AnnoyedOne more stupid question.. there's a warning at the top of 50-cloud-init.yaml, https://pastebin.com/BnSn1ZHX   Is this going to get clobbered on a reboot?17:21
TJ-Annoyed: did you edit 50-cloud-init.yaml rather than create your own file(s) ?17:23
Annoyededited what was there.17:23
TJ-Annoyed: I'm not sure, but cloud-init is used when managing virtual machines, containers, etc, and is used by the host outside to create the network configuration inside17:23
Annoyedrebooting it now, see what happens17:24
AnnoyedOr should I create my own file anyway?17:24
TJ-Annoyed: so if you're working with a regular bare-metal install there is no external cloud-init mount, but the internal cloud-init tooling may re-write that file17:24
TJ-Annoyed: to be safe I'd create my own17:24
AnnoyedSeems to have survived reboot17:24
TJ-Best to have your own, else if you ever purge cloud-init (since it isn't needed) you won't lose your network config :)17:25
AnnoyedWhere would I put that? /etc/netplan/17:26
Annoyed?17:26
TJ-Yes, something like /etc/netplan/myethernets.yaml17:26
TJ-as long as the name isn't the cloud-init name17:26
Annoyedok, so it will read whatever is in that directory ending in .yaml ?17:26
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rollaehi17:33
rollaeI have several files, and generated sha256sums of those using the above cmd, and then I wish to create a sig and verify it17:33
rollaesha256sum -c --ignore-missing SHA256 ; signify -Cp /etc/signify/openbsd-XX-base.pub -x SHA256.sig miniroot*.fs; what's the gpg equivalent of verifying the hash files and then the taking the hashes of all the files and comparing with the hash files in a "single" gpg step, just like with signify.17:33
TJ-rollae: there isn't - gnupg is for signing/verifying signatures only17:34
pragmaticenigmaTJ-: doesn't GPG also have the ability to encrypt files?17:36
AnnoyedOk, TJ- & others, thanks. Seems to have nailed it.17:37
TJ-pragmaticenigma: rollae is asking about the sign/verify aspect17:37
rollaeok then how do I use gpg to verify this hashes as it's already "signed" https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/qubes/iso/Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso.DIGESTS look you said gpg cannot sign but it did sign the hash list17:38
pragmaticenigmaTJ-: Oh, okay, the "only" had a totality ring to it17:38
rollaeI know encryption part17:38
TJ-rollae: for detached signatures you'd do something like "gpgv SHA255.sig SHA256 && sha256sum -c SHA256"17:39
TJ-rollae: if SHA256 has an embedded signature you'd need something like "sha256sum -c <(gpgv --output - SHA256) - although I'm not sure how gpgv will behave if the signature check fails17:42
rollaebut above It's an attached signature look again https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/qubes/iso/Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso.DIGESTS17:42
TJ-rollae: so you'd need to use the --output style17:43
rollaeI wish to verify that, file , and also the hashes, how ?17:43
TJ-rollae: ^^^ see my example above17:43
rollaeYou misunderstood it's not openbsd file, it's a qubes OS file.17:45
TJ-rollae: what?17:45
rollaeI just gave an example that Openbsd does it with signify , similary how do I verify using gpg the Qubes OS file17:45
TJ-rollae: I've just shown you!!17:46
rollaebut I don't get you17:46
TJ-rollae: combination of gpgv and sha256sum17:46
rollaeis gpgv = gpg --verify ?17:46
TJ-rollae: see "man gpgv"17:46
rollaeI saw it17:46
rollaeand then asked17:46
TJ-The DESCRIPTION tells you: "This  program  is actually a stripped-down version of gpg which is only able to check signatures"17:47
rollaehttps://www.qubes-os.org/downloads/ I have digests I have signature and key, and iso , so how do I verify them.17:48
rollaeI dowloaded everything but can't verify17:48
TJ-rollae: this looks likely to work:17:48
TJ-wget -O - https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/qubes/iso/Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso.DIGESTS 2>/dev/null | gpgv --output /tmp/hashes && sha256sum -c /tmp/hashes || echo "Bad or unknown signature"17:48
rollaeI imported the public key. Now it says bad signature17:57
rollaeI have .DIGESTS .gpgv: Can't check signature: No public key17:58
rollaeBad or unknown signature17:58
rollaewhy does gpg --verify succeed, but not your cmd. I don't know if18:02
rollaegpg --verify .asc succedds18:02
OerHeksopenssl dgst -md5 Qubes-RX-x86_64.iso # is an other way18:03
OerHekshttps://www.qubes-os.org/security/verifying-signatures/#how-to-verify-qubes-iso-digests18:03
rollaewow I searched and couldn't get that link you people are way too clever to fetch all that data, I wish I was equally savvy as you :-)18:06
TJ-rollae: it'll depend on which keyring gpgv is using18:06
TJ-rollae: by default gpgv should use the same keyring as gpg does though18:07
rollaeI don't want to use gpgv but the full gpg command with option using other thing is still confusion18:09
bipul!logs18:12
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/18:12
rollaedon't log things, I am pro privacy18:14
lordcirth_rollae, it's a public channel with 1140 people connected, any one of whom could also log it.  There is no privacy here.18:15
itguysrollae: And most IRC clients log by default, so there's probably 1000+ copies of the log.18:17
rollaesha256sum --tag f1 f2 f3 -b18:22
rollaeSHA256 (f1) = 2c8b08da5ce60398e1f19af0e5dccc744df274b826abe585eaba68c52543480618:22
rollaewhy doesn't binary mode output in binary instead of text!!18:22
TJ-rollae: because you could kill the terminal with control codes18:22
ikoniarollae: are you doing this on ubuntu or bsd18:22
rollaewhat it does it mean to read in binary vs text ?18:22
ikoniaas you're asking the same problem in both channels18:23
ikoniawhich suggests based on your text in openbsd you're actually doing this on bsd18:23
rollaeon ubuntu , not bsd. sha256 -tag generates bsd checksum .18:23
rollaeikonia: obsd in vm18:23
rollaeI just download18:23
rollaeand qubes too in vm !!18:23
rollaeI just download18:23
rollaeI use multiple distros like any linux fanatic18:23
matsamanI use one like a sane person18:24
lordcirth_rollae, last time I tried to run Qubes in Virtualbox, it crashed the host18:24
rollaeBut what's wrong with using qubes ? qubes is a linux .18:24
lordcirth_Qubes requires virtualization support, can't do it inside a VM18:24
matsamansecurity through isolation? Sounds like a cop out18:24
lordcirth_Qubes runs Xen, and Fedora on top of that18:24
matsamanYou could just put anyting in a sandbox and it's in a sandbox18:24
matsamanwhy do you need a special distro to do that18:24
ikoniajoin #openbsd18:25
matsamanikonia: make me18:25
ikoniamatsaman: typo18:25
matsamansure sure18:25
lordcirth_matsaman, Qubes lets you effectively isolate things *and* still get work done.18:25
lordcirth_Anyone could run a bunch of VMs, but the UX would suck18:25
matsamanlordcirth_: as certainly qubes' does18:27
lordcirth_matsaman, it's pretty good UX, considering.18:27
matsamannot really though, you can run a guest without suffering visual problems18:28
matsamanbut it's still nonsense18:28
ikoniaI think we're probably straying a bit out of the ubuntu channels topic here18:28
matsamanKDE =P18:28
matsamanikonia: uh, you were just talking about openbsd! =P j/k18:28
bipulWhat is HWE kernel?18:30
ikoniahardware enablement18:31
misppbipul: newer kernel that you can install on LTS releases18:31
bipulSo how it is useful??18:31
matsamanfinally kernels that enable hardware instead of disable18:31
ikoniabipul: do you currently have a problem ?18:31
ikoniabipul: if not, stick with the standard kernel18:32
bipulAnd is there is a problem then??18:32
bipuls/is/if/18:32
ikoniathen you debug it and resolve it with the appropriate action18:32
bipulHow?18:32
misppguys, any way to properly hidpi scale Qt apps in ubuntu 18.10? mostly interested in qtcreator...18:32
ikoniadepends on the problem18:32
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bipulI have seen in most of the cases when there is driver issue, then we need to install hwe kernel18:33
ikoniabipul: it depends on the problem18:34
ikoniathe default position should not be to just randomly change the kernel18:34
ikoniait should be because research has been done, the problem understood and the solution is understood and ramifications of changing the kernel18:35
bipulikonia, okay :)18:35
coconutAre Nvidia Quadro laptop video cards supported well under ubuntu?18:41
matsamanyup18:42
matsamanyou got a specific model?18:42
coconutmatsaman: i consider buying a new dell laptop. (model is Precision 7730)18:43
coconutbut if it is supported i just might buy one :)18:44
matsamanwell with Dell you can return it if it isn't18:44
ikoniathat feels like a massive waste of effort for the sake of checking the chipset support under linux18:45
coconutoh... that's pleasing yes18:45
matsamancoconut: you can see Nvidia's own driver's model support here, which includes the two quadros you can get on the 7730: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/140135/en-us18:45
matsamanikonia: it's actually less effort than research, IMO18:46
matsamanit depends on your schedule what would be the best course18:46
OerHeksNVIDIA Quadro P3200 or P4200 ??18:46
OerHekshttps://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/precision-7730/spd/precision-17-7730-laptop/xctop7730hwus18:46
matsamanand your liquid cash18:46
OerHeksyou do have choise18:46
matsamanthey're both supported18:46
matsaman${lecture about buying giant multi-fan laptop pretending to be a desktop here}18:46
coconutOerHeks: well i don't know which gpu. But i rather have a silent system... so probably the smaller p3200 if that differs.18:49
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thrmoI get this error when trying to open an AppImage on ubuntu 18.10:18:50
thrmothere is no application installed for "appimage application bundle"18:50
coconutOerHeks: both have driver support right?18:50
thrmowhat do I need to install?18:51
OerHekscoconut, jups18:51
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coconutthnx :)18:51
OerHekschmod a+x exampleName.AppImage adn run it with: ./exampleName.AppImage or doubleclick it18:52
jwashhi everyone, I have a drive that disappeared, cmd line gave a i/o error then dead. reboot was unsuccessful. I removed from fstab in recovery, computer boots. fdisk -l doesn't see it, badblocks doesn't see it. Can anyone suggest what to do next?19:00
TJ-jwash: check the kernel log to begin with, see if the device even responses to probes19:01
EriC^^jwash: maybe it's a loose connection or bad cable just a thought19:01
ioriajwash, is it  a sata device ?19:02
jwashyea, sata, has been solid for years19:02
jwashcase sits in a rack and is never touched19:02
leftyfbjwash: check to see if it shows up in your BIOS. If not, I'm going to go with a bad drive. If it does, I would try the disk check in gparted from a live cd/usb. Either way, I'm going to go with it being a bad drive and you should just restore from backup.19:02
jwashyea19:03
jwashvery true19:03
ioriajwash, dmesg | grep ata[0-9]19:03
jwashDec 27 14:08:11 200 umount: umount: /stor/sdb1: target is busy.19:04
jwashhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JYCggz4f4Z/19:06
americanwookieTJ-: Sorry for the slow response. So this system is a iscsi netboot, but as far as I can tell, the kernel is still coming from the OS partition.19:08
americanwookie(context: I had the question about copymods from 4h ago)19:09
jwashhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2q7G7ST3Xd/19:11
pragmaticenigmajwash: in the second post, it appears that you mounted the drive? is that correct?19:12
jwashI tried, but it never actually mounted19:13
TJ-jwash: That's a RedHat kernel isn't it?19:13
jwashsorry19:13
jwashit is19:13
TJ-3.10.0-862.11.6.el7.x86_64 (builder@kbuilder.dev.centos.org)19:13
jwashi use ubuntu for desktop19:13
jwashits been a while since i had an issue with it so i went here, lol19:14
TJ-jwash: the important kernel messages have been lost by dmesg since it is a ring-buffer. Use "journalctl -b" to get them19:15
americanwookieTJ-: The problem I'm having with copymods is that everytime I reboot the server, I lose modules I need in /lib/modules like veth and iptables*. I've been slowly adding modules to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, but I'm getting to the point where every module I need is ending up in my initrd. This feels wrong.19:18
jwashhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RwBktf2F2y/19:19
rollaehey why can't gpg do what signify can do i.e. verify the hashes files against an attached signature- which gpg does, but then COMPARE the hash values in the attached signature with the hash value of the .iso file ?19:27
rollaeI wish to COMPARE them without using my eyes to check whether the hash values match.19:28
leftyfbrollae: make a script?19:29
TJ-rollae: we've already told you19:29
rollaegpgv Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso.DIGESTS19:31
rollaehttps://bpaste.net/show/665db4eb2e3c19:32
rollaeTJ-: I tried with gpgv but why does it fail ?19:32
rollaeI imported the public key too19:32
rollaegpgv is a strange program. as it can't even verify the digests19:33
rollaeI mean it's an 'attached' signature. is attached signature the right vocabulory to use19:33
pragmaticenigmarollae: questions like that, it would appear that maybe you need to look at the documentation for those tools more carefully19:46
TJ-rollae: did you sign your trust for the Qubes key? gpgv will only use trusted keys19:51
TJ-rollae: when gpg2 receives/imports keys they go into the pubring.gpg and if you list the key you'll note it isn't trusted (by you or any key you trust).19:52
Hackwarhi folks, I have Ubuntu Server and want to run a bunch of scripts on bootup in the background. I read that I can simply add & to the end and it moves the whole thing to the background, but I would want to some times get the output on the screen again. When running everything manually, I can switch between terminals with Alt+F1/2/3/... Is there a way to do this for such bootup scripts?19:53
technobiHello All, how do I change the console (tty) resolution without reboot?19:54
TJ-rollae: if you don't want to sign the Qubes key as trusted, you can trust it for the duration of the gpg operation only. For that you cannot use gpgv, but can use gpg2. e.g. " gpg2 --verify --trusted-key DDFA1A3E36879494 --output /tmp/hashes" && sha256sum -c /tmp/hashes  "19:59
pragmaticenigmaHackwar: there is not. if you're looking for the output of the scripts, you should set them up to log their output to a log file20:00
pragmaticenigmaHackwar: if you're unable to modify the scripts/programs to log output. you can redirect the output when they are launched20:05
TJ-Hackwar: or run them via a systemd unit file which will log output by default20:09
j4f-shredderhttps://github.com/aircrack-ng/rtl8812au/tree/v5.3.4  If I use the bash script to install the network interface, do I need to run the make command to build it asd well or that is an alternative method of using that bash script? I'm a noob20:17
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ikoniaj4f-shredder: why are you doing this ?20:18
ikoniaj4f-shredder: aircrack is in the ubuntu repos20:18
j4f-shredderI need to build awus036ach model to inject packages to my network and see if it's safe20:19
OerHeksi think he wants to build a rtl8812au driver, capable of doing noob stuff20:19
ikoniaj4f-shredder: no you don't20:19
j4f-shredderwith the one in the ubuntu repos I cant put the network interface in that mode20:19
ikoniaj4f-shredder: "I'm a noob" v "I want to inject packets into my network" are totally different ends of the spectrum20:19
j4f-shredderhey, I'm just reading tutorials, I don't have the money to pay to an ethical hacker20:19
OerHeksinject packages.. ??20:19
Hackwarpragmaticenigma: Thanks, after some more considerations, I will keep it simple for now...20:20
ikoniaj4f-shredder: you don't need to do that20:20
HackwarAlso thanks to TJ.20:20
j4f-shredderhey, could you just answer me if I need to execute the make command as well20:20
j4f-shredder??20:20
ikoniano20:20
ikoniaI'm not going to support that20:20
j4f-shreddersince most of the software for ubuntu don't need that anymore20:20
ikoniaI'll help you validate your network security20:20
j4f-shredderok20:20
ikoniaas would the guys in ##security20:20
j4f-shredderif you wanna do it for free you are welcome20:20
j4f-shredderof course20:20
TJ-j4f-shredder: if you use the dkms-install.sh method you do not need to do 'make' - DKMS takes care of it20:21
j4f-shredderdo you have skype?20:21
j4f-shredderTJ thanks20:21
j4f-shredderthese guys thinks I wanna do something malicious and refused to answer my questions20:21
ikoniaI don't think that at all20:21
j4f-shredderthey are not familiar with the ethical hacking practices20:21
ikoniaI stated what I think that your experience and requirements are at oposite ends of the spectrum20:22
ikoniaj4f-shredder: yes I am20:22
ikoniaand I don't believe you'll get a useful output20:22
j4f-shredderI don't understand why you refused to "support" my question then20:22
ikoniafor the reasons I've just said20:22
j4f-shredderI was really friendly asking it20:22
j4f-shredderoohh I see what you mean20:23
j4f-shredderI missunderstood you20:23
j4f-shredderyou only support ubuntu repositories20:23
j4f-shredderthat's ok20:23
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Maybe you asked the wrong question.  Generally the irc channels only support the default packages.  Building kernel modules is a bit off-topic, but I'm sure it's not hard to research.20:23
ikoniaagain, not what I said20:23
j4f-shredderI thought you were being unfriendly20:23
j4f-shredderyou speak with a really hard language...I don't understand your statements to be honest20:24
j4f-shredderyou should be more pedagogical20:24
TJ-DKMS is supported and is the preferred way to build/install/manage out-of-tree kernel modules20:24
j4f-shredderif you want people to leave windows behind...that's what I'm trying to do and this is quite intimidating20:24
OerHekssaying being a noob does not help either20:24
OerHeksgrinn20:24
j4f-shredderI'm a noob, I'm not afraid to admit it20:25
j4f-shredderI needed help and I asked for it20:25
j4f-shredderI don't see the problem20:25
TJ-I'm a noob and I've been here 14 years :)20:25
ikoniaj4f-shredder: I don't want people to leave windows behind20:25
j4f-shredderI don't understand the difference between managing it with dkms or installing it from that github20:26
ikoniaj4f-shredder: what I do what is for you to actually get an outcome that is useful to you20:26
matsamanj4f-shredder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Configure_script#Usage is the classic approach20:26
j4f-shredderwill I be able to get the same package from dkms?20:26
j4f-shredder5.3.420:26
j4f-shredderI need that specific version20:26
matsamanit's not usual you'd need aircrack source to get wireless working, though20:26
ikoniaand typing blindly commands from a tutorial won't help, hence why I offered a more specific channel that may get you help, or offered to help you myself20:26
ioriaj4f-shredder, dkms is for kernel updates (you don't need to recompile)20:26
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Other than "inject packets", what exactly are you trying to do?20:27
j4f-shredderwhy would this be a "kernel update"? Are driver installations considered kernel updates?20:27
j4f-shredderjhutchins: someone is getting handshakes from my network and I need to know if they can crack the password with a gpu20:27
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: You're talking about a kernel module.  Perhaps read up on that a bit.20:28
j4f-shredderit has happened 3 times already20:28
ikoniaj4f-shredder: how do you know this20:28
ioriaj4f-shredder, the module is build against your current kernel20:28
matsamanj4f-shredder: why does it matter? The solution is to make your password longer regardless of the answer20:28
leftyfb"handshakes from my network" uh....20:28
j4f-shredderthe whole network logs out from time to time20:28
ioria*built20:28
ikoniaj4f-shredder: how do you know someone is "getting handshakes"20:29
j4f-shredderioria: I never understood kernels and drivers...it's a mistery to me20:29
TJ-j4f-shredder: I think you're being confused by all the fuss. Ubuntu ships the DKMS system for the purpose of building/installing/managing out-of-tree kernel modules such as the one you want to build in the aircrack-ng repo. The instructions you linked to show they have a couple of scripts that call on DKMS to make(build) and install the module. So, we support DKMS itself, but can't support the specific repo20:29
TJ-and module you're wanting to work with.20:29
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: What you probably want is something like tcpdump and/or wireshark to analyse the traffic on your network.20:29
ioriaj4f-shredder, so you should not use external modules20:29
j4f-shredderbut I can't get the same functionalities from the ubuntu dkms20:30
j4f-shredderso that's why I need to install this20:30
j4f-shredderI'm talking to a lot of people in a network forum and they all use this driver for ubuntu20:30
j4f-shreddersince the default is useless20:30
ikoniaj4f-shredder: join ##security and explain the problem (not your solution)20:30
j4f-shredderto get into manage mode20:30
ikoniapeople will help20:30
ikoniayou're making a problem and I'm not convinced you actually have one20:31
j4f-shredderthanks and sorry for the missunderstanding sir20:31
ikoniano need for sorry20:31
j4f-shredderI just need to understand kernels and drivers20:31
TJ-j4f-shredder: right, for your purpose you need to use the aircrac repository, and that will call on Ubuntu's DKMS tooling to install that module20:31
j4f-shredderIt's a hard topic20:31
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557 <- basic troubleshooting.20:31
j4f-shredderthere should be a 5 minute video explaining that20:31
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: No, because what you're trying to do is not a basic "noob" task.20:31
j4f-shredderTJ how's that? should I clone that repo and run that command or how do I make use of this dkms thing?20:32
jhutchinsubottu: dkms20:32
ubottuDKMS is Dynamic Kernel Module Support. See https://launchpad.net/dkms for more.20:32
j4f-shredderjhutchins: I think it's easier to explain the community how to install drivers and how they relate to kernel versions, it's really confusing20:32
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Read that.  I still think you're headed down the wrong path.20:32
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: There's plenty of documentation on "linux kernel modules" - hit your favorite search engine.20:33
ioriaj4f-shredder, just for asking, are you using the repo rtl8812au-dkms   or the git version ?20:33
TJ-Just for context here, Ubuntu's own rtl8812au driver is actually a DKMS package. The aircrack-ng version has added monitor mode and other goodies.20:33
TJ-!info rtl8812au-dkms20:33
j4f-shredderthe git version20:33
ubotturtl8812au-dkms (source: rtl8812au): dkms source for the r8812au network driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.8.12175.20140902+dfsg-0ubuntu8 (bionic), package size 1089 kB, installed size 8697 kB20:34
ioriaj4f-shredder, yeah20:34
j4f-shredderjhutchings....so basically, according to that link if you install a driver not using dkms then if you upgrade your kernel you will be in trouble?20:34
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Not really, you just have to rebuild the module against the newer kernel.20:35
ioriaj4f-shredder, used this ? https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux.git20:35
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: dkms detects that the kernel has changed and rebuilds any modules it knows about.20:35
j4f-shreddereverytime I installed the updates on another machine I would have to install the network driver all over again, so maybe it's because of that20:35
ikoniaj4f-shredder: again if this is just a one off test you shouldn't need to maintain this20:36
j4f-shredderioria: I tried that one but doesn't work in ubuntu20:36
j4f-shredderin manage mode20:36
ioriaoh20:36
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Possibly something like that.  That's why it's best to stick with the official packages if possible.20:36
ikoniaj4f-shredder: and again - I believe you are approaching this whole problem totally wrong20:36
j4f-shredderthe one I provided is the only one20:36
leftyfbj4f-shredder: you still haven't told us how you know "someone is getting handshakes from my network"20:36
j4f-shredderI just want to put my network interface in managed mode to put it simply20:37
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: I think you should try some other things before you try building modules.  You can wreck your system pretty badly doing that without knowing what's happening.20:37
j4f-shredderand that is the only driver that works for ubuntu20:37
j4f-shredderotherwise I have to install kali linux20:37
j4f-shredderand I don't want to20:37
leftyfbj4f-shredder: how do you know "someone is getting handshakes from my network"20:37
ikoniakali runs from live media for pentration testing20:37
ikoniathis is the perfect situation20:37
j4f-shreddersince my network is deathenticating quite frequently20:37
j4f-shreddersomeone is messing up with my network20:38
ikoniahow do you know this ?20:38
leftyfb^20:38
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Not necessarily.  Wireless?20:38
j4f-shredderI have 7 machines and they all suffer the same20:38
j4f-shredderyeah, 7 laptops20:38
ikonia"suffer the same"20:38
leftyfbj4f-shredder: suffer what exactly?20:38
ioriaj4f-shredder, same chipset ?20:38
j4f-shredderthey lose connection and then regain it 2 seconds later20:38
leftyfbj4f-shredder: wireless? wired? both?20:38
j4f-shredderthis happens 10 times every 4 days20:39
ikoniaj4f-shredder: good lord !!!! that doesn't mean someone is messing with your network20:39
ikoniaj4f-shredder: you should not be penetration testing your wifi with no knowedge because your wifi is dropping out20:39
j4f-shredderleftyfb: just wireless20:39
leftyfbj4f-shredder: you more than likely have a junk router/AP20:39
j4f-shredderI already bought this interface so I want to try it out20:39
j4f-shredderI don't know what is the big deal, I just need to use that driver and put it in manage mode20:39
ikoniaj4f-shredder: people are trying to help you fix your problem20:40
j4f-shredderthe thing is that I don't know how to interact with this dkms20:40
ikoniaj4f-shredder: you're trying to force the wrong answer20:40
ikoniathat's the problem20:40
j4f-shredderis it the same as apt??20:40
ikoniaj4f-shredder: no20:40
leftyfbj4f-shredder: no, you don't. You need to figure out why your wireless is dropping. Nothing you are trying to accomplish with solve that20:40
j4f-shredderhow do you interact with dkms?20:40
j4f-shredderto install their drivers?20:40
ikoniaj4f-shredder: I suggest you readthe links provided to you20:41
ikoniamaybe re-read the scroll back of the channel20:41
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Why don't you read that link about it? https://launchpad.net/dkms20:41
leftyfbj4f-shredder: Would you like help troubleshooting why your wireless is dropping out?20:41
j4f-shredderI already read that framework description20:41
ioriaj4f-shredder, usually a Makefile.dkms is shipped in the pkg20:41
leftyfbj4f-shredder: because nothing you are doing is part of that process20:41
j4f-shredderbut there are no easy instructions to intearct with that framework20:41
j4f-shredderit's really counterintuitive to be honest20:41
j4f-shredderthe docs I mean20:41
j4f-shreddera video would be better20:41
ikoniaj4f-shredder: it's not an easy task20:42
ikoniaj4f-shredder: hence why at the start I said "this is different ends of the spectrum than you're knowledge"20:42
ikoniaj4f-shredder: no, it wouldn't20:42
j4f-shreddernow I understand what you said20:42
j4f-shredderit would have been better to say...you are trying to do stuff that you are not prepared for20:42
TJ-j4f-shredder: the instructions you originally linked to showed the exact commands to execute to install the module, what more do you want?20:42
ikoniaj4f-shredder: I did20:42
j4f-shredderTJ I already run them but then you suggested not to install that and to use dkms instead, and that's what I'm asking20:43
bpromptj4f-shredder:   maybe you should start off from the very beginning, and explain what is happening, so others can help you, instead of jumping to conclusions and asking on help on those conclusions, just saying20:43
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: The problem is far more likely to be the router or your link Telecom Argentina is not the most reliable provider.20:43
j4f-shredderbut they keep trying to persuade me not to install a driver for an interface I already bought and I need to try20:43
ikoniayou don't need to try20:44
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: We're trying to keep you from getting in over your head and wrecking your system.20:44
ikoniado you want to a.) solve your wifi problem b.) brag to your mates your a wifi cracker20:44
ikoniaas lets be honest, that's the reality here20:44
leftyfbyou're ;)20:44
j4f-shredderit's really hard to talk to you to be honest20:44
ioriahehehe20:44
j4f-shredderI already told you and you don't believe me20:44
ikoniaif I had a wifi problem like you, and people are offering to fix it for you, I'd be taking their arm off20:44
ikoniayou on the other hand don't appear to be interested in fixing it and just want to run an specific interface in managed mode with no konwledge20:45
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: What brand/model router do you have?20:45
j4f-shreddereven if that was the case, why would you care about my personal affairs(which, I repeat, I'm not a wifi cracker, connection here is like 20 bucks)20:45
TJ-j4f-shredder: no, i did not suggest not to install that. I was telling you to use the DKMS install method the link you gave documents. Ubuntu includes the DKMS system so it would  work. I do note however those instructions are incomplete on how to integrate into the Debian/Ubuntu way of doing things.20:45
j4f-shredderlink20:45
ioriahonestly  rtl8812au is troublesome on 18.0420:45
bpromptj4f-shredder:   you said what "you think is happening" and you're asking for help on what "you think is a solution", instead of letting others understand what's the original issue that prompted you on this20:45
j4f-shredderok, you wanna reduce the problem? I need to install a driver using the best possible way in ubuntu 18.10...forget about all the rest20:46
jhutchinsHardware that uses realtek chipsets is often shoddily built and unreliable.20:46
OerHeksDKMS needs no action .. but that is all explained in the wiki20:47
jhutchinsThe wholesale price on the chipset is usually well under a dollar.20:47
j4f-shreddernow that you awared me on dkms, I need to know how you usually install things with that stuff20:47
j4f-shredderso It's not that I'm not listening, I'm not getting the straight answers I need20:47
ikoniathere is no straight answer20:47
ikoniayou need to understand20:47
j4f-shredderthere must be a command or something like dkms install blabla20:47
j4f-shredderI just need that20:47
ikoniathis isn't a copy and paste situation20:47
OerHeksyou asked that already... dkms does the job when a new kernel is installed20:47
bpromptj4f-shredder:    that's not quite reducing it, since you're still running on the same track, so you never really went back to the original issue20:47
j4f-shredderok, so it's a background thing this dkms20:48
j4f-shredderI thought it was an interactive framework20:48
j4f-shredderwhere I could send directives20:48
j4f-shredderand install stuff20:48
ikoniayou're just saying random words20:48
OerHeksinstall & forget20:48
j4f-shredderthe docs should aware noobs on that20:48
ikoniaI think you need to either invest in some real learning/research20:49
ikoniaj4f-shredder: this is not a "noob" thing20:49
ikoniaj4f-shredder: as you've been told multiple times20:49
ikoniaj4f-shredder: if you're not prepared to invest the time in the learning (which is fine) you need to accept some things are out of your grasp20:49
j4f-shredderI know, but you think that people that doesn't know much just limit themselves not to do things cause they are hard?20:49
bpromptj4f-shredder:    seems to me, you need to unplug for 30 minutes, take a good lemonade drink, relax, and then come back :)20:49
j4f-shredderI prefer to hit a wall and try to jump over it20:49
ikoniahowever as I've said the guys in ##networking and ##security can help you with your wifi problem if you want to fix the reasl issue20:49
j4f-shredderthat's the way to learn20:49
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Did you try the instructions on how to install the driver with DKMS that are on https://github.com/aircrack-ng/rtl8812au/tree/v5.3.4 ?20:49
ikoniaj4f-shredder: then hit a wall20:50
ikoniaj4f-shredder: rather than keep asking people to do it for you20:50
ikoniaj4f-shredder: read/learn/test/play20:50
ikoniarather than "how do I do it !!!!"20:50
ikoniathis is getting tedious20:50
ikoniaeither put the effort in, use the other channels to fix the real problem or accept you can't do it20:50
jhutchinsThe instructions are pretty clear, install dkms, extract the driver files, run the dkms-install.sh20:51
j4f-shredderjhutchins I run that kdms command already, after that I saw the install the driver section and I run it as well20:51
jhutchinsOk, so reboot, you've got the new driver.20:51
j4f-shreddercause I didn't know if the command on dkms section alone would do20:51
j4f-shredderI run both  sudo apt-get install dkms  and then I cloned the repo and run sudo ./dkms-install.sh20:52
j4f-shredderso according to you I should just remove the 2nd script20:52
j4f-shredderand just execute again just the first20:52
jhutchinsNo,20:52
j4f-shredderhow does ubuntu manage the situation where you install something twice?20:52
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: It doesn't.20:53
OerHekslinux gives a nifty responce20:53
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: If you use the same method, you would just install it again.20:53
j4f-shredderI understood20:53
OerHeksbla bla.deb is already the newest20:53
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: How do you know you don't have the newer driver?  Did you follow the instructions to enable monitor mode?  How about the instructions to blink the LEDs?20:54
j4f-shredderthe network is working20:55
j4f-shredderthe interface I mean20:55
j4f-shredderafter running both sudo apt-get install dkms  and then I cloned the repo and run sudo ./dkms-install.sh20:55
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: yeah, you said that.20:55
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: So reboot and you should be on the new module.20:55
j4f-shredderI feel like a dumb mofo to be honest....but it's hard for me to understand the answers20:55
j4f-shredderI mean, the question is simple, are those 2 different methods of installing the driver or they are complementary?20:56
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: What was the output from runnng the script?20:56
j4f-shredder88XXau: Running module version sanity check.  - Original module    - No original module exists within this kernel  - Installation    - Installing to /lib/modules/4.15.0-42-generic/updates/dkms/  depmod...  DKMS: install completed. Finished running dkms install steps.20:56
TJ-jhutchins: "make" is the 'raw' way to build/install manually. "DKMS" wraps make and makes the whole process automated when newer kernel versions get installed so you don't have to manually build a module against the new kernel yourself20:57
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: First you installed dkms using the ubuntu package system (apt-get), then you built the module using the script to trigger dkms.20:57
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: What TJ said.20:57
j4f-shredderI mean was sudo apt-get install dkms just to install the dkms framework, and the script made use of that framework internally so they are just all part of 1 installation process?20:57
leftyfbj4f-shredder: so do you actually have any interest in resolving the fact that 7 laptops on your network drop off of wireless 10 times every 4 days?20:58
TJ-j4f-shredder: correct :)20:58
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Exactly.20:58
j4f-shreddergreat20:58
j4f-shredderleftyfb: yeah, I will head to security later, I don't want to bother you with this stuff, I feel like an idiot asking the same questions and I probably am, but I feel really noob and frustrated and that's why I need the most straight answers possible(even if there are none)20:59
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: You can read the script to see what it did.20:59
j4f-shredderyeah, there is a dkms-remove script as well20:59
leftyfbj4f-shredder: don't you think resolving your network issues is more important that playing around with aircrack?20:59
j4f-shredderso that's a good thing to undo all what that script did21:00
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: The problem is really that you're jumping into an advanced topic situation without knowing what's going on.21:00
j4f-shredderleftyfb: it's not that easy, perhaps for you it is21:00
leftyfbj4f-shredder: mind you, your wifi dropping more than likely has nothing to do with ##security21:00
ikoniait is that simple21:00
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: There is a removal script, I would use that if you think you need to remove the driver.21:00
j4f-shredderI mean, you have been training for 20 years to do this stuff, I just have 7 months using it consistently21:00
ikoniaj4f-shredder: right, so why are you not accepting peoples help fixing the problem21:01
ikoniaand insisting on doing it your own way21:01
leftyfbj4f-shredder: and yet, here you are, refusing the help and advice from everyone around you21:01
ikonia20+ years help v 7 months - I'd listen21:01
j4f-shredderjhutchins: what would happen for example if I need to install ubuntu 19 in 10 months...would this driver still work?21:01
ikoniaj4f-shredder: you wouldn't need that21:01
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: If all of the laptops loose the connection at the same time, it's nothing on your network.  Most likely your router is either loosing it's upstream connection or is dropping it's wifi signal.21:01
j4f-shredderwho told you I didn't listen...I did exactly as you commanded21:01
ikoniaj4f-shredder: you said this is a one time test to check your network21:02
ikoniaj4f-shredder: why would you need this in 7 months time21:02
j4f-shredderyou told me to sniff the network with wireshark21:02
ikoniaj4f-shredder: I'm watching you ignore help21:02
leftyfbj4f-shredder: you're not listening to anyone trying to help you with your wireless network issues21:02
ikoniaj4f-shredder: and focus on your own "odd" agenda21:02
bpromptleftyfb:  come on now, you're distracting him, he's too busy installing "dkms", about the wifi.... nevermind it I guess21:02
j4f-shredderthat's what I will do to see if there is and uncommon use of band21:02
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: That wouldn't drop the network like that.21:02
j4f-shredderI followed your advice 100%...but first I need to finish verifying the installation21:02
leftyfbjhutchins: why do you insist on "helping" him solve a problem that doesn't exist as opposed to his actual problem?21:03
j4f-shredderhe was very helpful actually21:03
ikoniahe is very helpful21:03
ikoniaas are %99 of the people in this channel21:03
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j4f-shredderhe explained to me core concepts about dkms21:03
j4f-shredderand linux kernels21:03
j4f-shredderthat's all I was asking for21:03
j4f-shredderand I repeat, I listened to you advice 100%21:04
leftyfbsorry, shouldn't have quoted the helping. I'm not debating that jhutchins isn't being helpful. Just that he should be aware that he's not solving an actual problem while j4f-shredder is ignoring help with the actual problem21:04
j4f-shredderI need time to put it in practice21:04
ikoniayou're wasting time on the wrong solution21:04
leftyfbj4f-shredder: no, you need to fix your wireless issues21:04
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Could you tell us what model router you're using?21:04
ikoniahence why "not listening" is being said21:05
j4f-shredderI can't change the router right know, you think it's the routing table that got full?21:05
j4f-shredderI used to have a router with that same issue21:05
ikoniayou don't need to change the router21:05
j4f-shredderbut it was 10 years ago21:05
ikoniayou need to debug the problem21:05
ikoniaand not make up random issues "routing table full"21:05
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: I wouldn't suspect the routing table.21:05
ikoniayou have no idea - that's ok, don't make up assumptions21:05
ikoniaask for help, listen, learn21:05
j4f-shredderyou think I'm not trying to do that? I wouldn't be here21:06
j4f-shredderasking21:06
ikoniaI'm sure that's not what you're trying to do21:06
jhutchinsikonia: It's possible that "monitor mode" is required to use something like wireshark.21:06
jhutchinstcpdump should work though.21:06
ikoniaas if it was - you'd be focussed on fixing the problem, rather tham some time wasting path you're going down21:06
j4f-shredderof course it's necessary21:06
j4f-shredderfor most forensic tasks21:06
leftyfbj4f-shredder: do you havr any devices that are hardwired?21:06
ikoniayou're not doing forensic work21:06
jhutchinsj4f-shredder: Once you get your current issue resolved, you might read up on tcpdump.21:06
ikoniayou're trying to fix a network config problem21:07
Mughal56j4f-shredder, what will happen once the driver is working?21:07
leftyfbjhutchins: tcpdump isn't going to help troubleshoot wireless dropping out21:07
* OerHeks handshakes21:07
j4f-shredderbut are you really expecting me to know that? I'm learning on the go...I can't forsee the future21:07
j4f-shredderI don't have the same toolbox as you have21:07
leftyfbj4f-shredder: do you have any devices that are hardwired?21:07
ikoniaj4f-shredder: people are TELLING YOU21:08
j4f-shredderso that's why sometimes I need to try things21:08
ikoniahence why you're not listening21:08
ikoniahow many times have people said "you don't need to do any of this"21:08
ikonianot once have you said "why" you've just kept saying " I need to do this "21:08
ikoniawhich is why I think you're just trying to brag to your friends or something rather than fix the problem21:08
j4f-shredderI needed it anyway since I bought this device that costed me like 100 dollars21:08
ikoniaas if someone offered to fix the problem I'd take their arm off21:08
leftyfbj4f-shredder: nevermind .... good luck with your ignorance21:08
j4f-shredderI won't leave it in the wardrobe21:08
Mughal56Some people learn by reading, some people learn by listening, others learn by just doing their own thing21:08
Mughal56j4f-shredder, once the driver is working, what will you do?21:09
j4f-shredderI will try to check the activity on the network21:09
ikoniapull up a gui that looks like the matrix and send screen shots to his friends that he's a hacker ?21:09
j4f-shredderwith some forensic tools21:09
ikoniaj4f-shredder: what are you talking about21:09
j4f-shredderand then check the router config21:09
j4f-shredderthat's all I can do21:09
ikoniaforensic tools ???21:09
j4f-shredderif I can't fix it I will call someone21:09
ikoniawhy are you troubleshooting a network drop with forensic tools21:09
Mughal56what will you run to check the activity on the network?21:09
ikoniamore so when you don't even understand the basics21:10
j4f-shredderthat wireshark sniffer21:10
ikoniathis is a waste of time,21:10
j4f-shreddersometimes all you need is a youtube video to start with21:10
ikoniano it's not21:10
j4f-shredderthen you can focus on mastering something21:10
j4f-shredderthat's the way I roll21:10
j4f-shredderI get overwhelmed otherwise21:10
Mughal56so you are expecting that the wireshark tool will show you what?21:10
j4f-shredderthere's too much information out there21:10
j4f-shredderif you are a noob21:10
j4f-shredderit will show me the traffic....I will turn down all the computers21:11
Mughal56everyone is a noob at something21:11
j4f-shredderand if there are still packages with different ips than mine21:11
TJ-For goodness sake people, this is Ubuntu - stop being so aggressive, let j4f-shredder chose their own path. If you don't want to help just don't respond!21:11
j4f-shredderthen someone is connected from the outside21:11
j4f-shredderI can even see that in the router configuration21:11
ikoniaj4f-shredder: you understand you could just see that from the connection table on the router21:12
ikonia90 seconds works21:12
j4f-shredderTJ thanks for the support...it's a shame that ikonia is so aggresive, next time I will think it twice before asking for help21:12
Mughal56Do you have wireshark installed?21:12
j4f-shreddernot yet, I had kali linux ready to be installed but I decided to do all of this in ubuntu21:13
ikoniaok - so as TJ- lets keep to the topic21:14
ikoniayou have your ubuntu support question answered21:14
ikoniathis is not the channel for network support, so lets leave it there please.21:14
j4f-shredderok21:14
ikoniaif j4f-shredder wants to go his own way, that's on him21:14
jhutchinsikonia: Why not help him get where he thinks he wants to be, realize it doesn't help, then troubleshoot the problem properly?21:23
jhutchinsikonia: He might learn something along the way.21:23
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Sven_vBI've gotta do lots of apt package operations, and I'd like to distribute them into time slots where I my prediction says the machine won't have much else to do. how can I make apt pre-calculate my installs, removes and update, save a list of independent blocks of operations, and then later apply one block?21:29
jhutchinsikonia: Personally, I think Telecom Argentina ++ cheap third-world consumer-grade router is an entirely adequite explanation.21:30
NTQHi. For some reason I can not use the VGA port on my docking station but the mini-DP + adapter to VGA on the laptop itself works without problems. Any idea how I can activate the VGA port on the docking station? specs: Ubuntu 18.04, Nvidia K2000M, Thinkpad W530. xrandr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TjVPxDmRX5/21:32
NTQI want to to use VGA-1-1 instead of DP-321:32
NTQAlso I've got bad tearing artifacts on DP-2 and DP-321:33
NTQI am using nvidia drivers in version 390.7721:34
jhutchinsActually, it looks like he's using a Linksys RV042 router, that should be decent enough.21:35
jhutchinsIt should have logs.  Possibly needs a firmware upgrade.21:37
pragmaticenigmajhutchins: the topic was closed, please stop21:38
jhutchinsD'Oh, that's the gateway.  Nevermind.21:38
pragmaticenigmaNTQ: tearing should be resolved by testing the Vsync settings. As for the missing VGA... sometimes the VGA outputs are disabled when the digital display ports are in use because of resource constraints21:40
coconutCan an Nvidia Quadro P3200 be primed under ubuntu, just like an GTX 1060?21:42
pragmaticenigmacoconut: can you explain what you mean by "primed" ?21:42
coconutwith primed i mean disabling the gpu and use only the intel one21:43
NTQpragmaticenigma: According to this the 4337 docking station should also be able to use the VGA port: https://support.lenovo.com/de/en/solutions/ht03760521:44
OerHekscuda on P3200 ..21:44
coconutfor heat and battery comfort usage21:44
OerHeksif you use your 2nd gpu too, heat and battery usage will not drop21:45
NTQWait... It seems I need the 4338 to be compatible with Thinkpad W530. I was completely overlooking that.21:46
pragmaticenigmaNTQ: The dock can only output to two displays simultaneously. have you tried only attaching a monitor only to the VGA port?21:46
NTQpragmaticenigma: Look for "quad Display configuration" on the site21:47
pragmaticenigmaNTQ: I take it you do not have the requisit laptop model for that configuration?21:48
coconutOerHeks: well, i want to fully disable the nvidia and continue with only the intel from the same session. (if that's possible)21:49
NTQIt's possible but they do not mention w530. I need the Mini Dock plus Series 3 4338-30x for that purpose. But in this case using the Mini-DP on the laptop itself is totally fine, because these docking stations are expensive.21:50
coconutor does only some part of the nvidia card get disabled?21:53
OerHeksnot sure you can disable it in your session21:54
coconutI think i am still fine if i don't need to reboot for it though. :)21:56
alekksanderis it normal that hdparm -t /dev/sda says read speed is about 250, while this is ssd? internet says it's capable of 400MB/s22:09
fooI forget, is there a way to cat or head a file that is .gz? I thought there was gcat or gzcat or such? or zcat? Hmm22:11
pragmaticenigmaalekksander: There are other factors that affect speeds, including the motherboard controller of the drive.22:12
OerHeksalekksander, test hdparm with these 2 commands, hdparm -Tt22:13
matsamanfoo: cat22:13
matsamanzcat, even22:13
OerHekscache and buffered22:13
foomatsaman: aha, zcat - now what package offers this... *investigates*22:13
matsamanfoo: gzip itself22:14
foomatsaman: oh, it's already here, whoops. ok, thank you!22:14
matsamanyeah very common22:14
pragmaticenigmafoo: zcat is just a wrapper... you can't read a compressed file without first decompressing it22:14
OerHekssudo cat /dev/sda | pv -r > /dev/null # gives a rt result, just reading22:14
foopragmaticenigma: zcat syslog.2.gz |head works fine22:15
pragmaticenigmafoo: zcat simply inflates the file and sends the output to stdout...22:15
pragmaticenigmathat's why that works22:15
foopragmaticenigma: nice, this is working for my purpose. thanks122:16
foo!22:16
alekksanderOerHeks: looks like 250 is max. i will test under different OS to compare, but i expect the same (probably other hardware limitation as pragmaticenigma mentioned)22:16
alekksanderthanks22:16
pragmaticenigmafoo: you're welcome, I just wanted to help you understand what it was doing :)22:16
foopragmaticenigma: yeah, that makes more sense now, I hadn't thought about it before22:18
foopragmaticenigma: before it was like... magic! :)22:18
pragmaticenigmaalekksander: It sounds like the drive might be attached to a SATA II port, you can easily look up the documentation of the motherboard or controller that you have attached the drive to, to verify this22:20
TJ-that info is available in the sysfs22:23
alekksanderpragmaticenigma: it is adata sp310 in mini PCI Express slot. chipset is „Intel B75 Express”22:31
alekksanderactually i don't see hardware limitation at all22:32
pragmaticenigmaalekksander: that is the drive/storage device... I'm talking about the how it interfaces with the motherboard... the data rate can be limited by the SATA (or in this case mSATA) controller on the motherbaord22:34
alekksanderrather than i/o scheduler?22:35
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virmahaHello. Whenever I start a shell and I do env | grep -i proxy, I find http_proxy being set. I checked my network proxy gui and it's set to None22:39
virmahaetc/environment doesn't have that, ~/.bashrc doesn't have it too22:39
virmahaeverytime I start a new shell, i see it there. How can I figure out who is setting that22:39
virmahalogout fixed it :S22:41
matsamanvirmaha: and if you use your proxy and cease to use it again?22:42
virmahamatsaman: I am confused. What do you mean22:42
virmahaI am mainly trying to figure out how it's being set22:42
TJ-alekksander: pragmaticenigma looks like you can identify the SATA revision (1, 2 3) with " cat /sys/block/sda/../../../../../../revision"22:43
matsamanvirmaha: you might start with: grep -Hir http_proxy / 2>/dev/null22:44
virmahamatsaman: okay doing.22:47
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pragmaticenigmaTJ-: Though I suspect that would be the devices capabilities... not the controller22:59
TJ-pragmaticenigma: no, that is the controller23:02
TJ-pragmaticenigma: if you use readlink you'll see the symlink backs off to the controller. In my case it becomes "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2"23:03
TJ-and "lspci -nn -s0:1f.2" => "00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI Mode] [8086:9c83] (rev 03)"23:04
TJ-pragmaticenigma: I tested it on another system that has a SATA-2 controller and it reported 2, so I think it is the SATA revision which equates to max-speed23:05
TJ-pragmaticenigma: I presume we can also get the actual link rate but I got lost in sysfs looking for it :)23:05
pragmaticenigmaTJ-: personally, I like lspci option more than anything23:07
TJ-pragmaticenigma: found the link speed: "cat /sys/block/sda/../../../../../link1/ata_link/link1/sata_spd"23:14
pragmaticenigmaTJ-: are those dots placeholders or reverse traversals?23:15
TJ-pragmaticenigma: 'parent-directory'23:17
murthyIs there a way to use Google hangouts with telepathy without using other google stuff23:17
TJ-pragmaticenigma: it'd need more generalising to account for different link numbers23:17
TJ-pragmaticenigma: found the link speed: "cat /sys/block/sda/../../../../../link?/ata_link/link?/sata_spd"23:17
TJ-pragmaticenigma: tested on 2 different systems, seems to reflect the link speeds23:18
pragmaticenigmaTJ-: odd... all the "parent directories" would lead me to parent directory to "/" and further above23:18
TJ-pragmaticenigma: no they won't23:18
TJ-pragmaticenigma: /sys/block/sda is a symlink to deep in the device path23:18
pragmaticenigmaTJ-: ah! that's what I'm missing... I was thinking we were in the /dev tree23:19
TJ-pragmaticenigma: :D23:19
TJ-This is why I get lost in sysfs frrequently, chasing the darned symlinks in circles23:19
TJ-It's almost impossible to used 'find' in it due to them causing circular paths23:20
TJ-/dev/ tree can be the same with /dev/mapper/ dev/disk/by-*/ and other symlinks too23:21
pragmaticenigmayeah, I'm familiar with /dev more than /sys ... that's for sure23:21
TJ-I love sysfs and try to master where to find things since it both exposes everything the kernel knows about devices and allows manual control of them, even when other tools are broken/missing/unavailable23:24
TJ-in sysfs, using "ls -l " is the key, to see the symlinks and what they point to23:24
alekksander_TJ-: pragmaticenigma here „cat /sys/block/sda/../../../../../link1/ata_link/link1/sata_spd” says „6.0 Gbps”23:33
alekksander_anyone having ssd to check their speeds with sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sdb ?23:37
alekksander_i'd like a confirmation if it's worth investigating23:38
pragmaticenigmaalekksander_: question, how full is the drive?23:40
TJ-alekksander_: "Timing buffered disk reads: 1534 MB in  3.00 seconds = 510.98 MB/sec"23:40
alekksander_pragmaticenigma: 43GiB available23:41
Bashing-omalekksander_: "Timing buffered disk reads: 558 MB in  3.02 seconds = 184.52 MB/sec"23:41
OerHeksif the specs claim 400 mb, and you get roughly 250, could that be genuine, data, overhead, and such ?23:42
TJ-It may include a drive-based RAM cache as well, which for larger reads/writes won't hold23:43
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alekksander_it get's flat at 29023:51
alekksander_https://i.imgur.com/amBpspU.png23:56

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