daxyes, and they don't do it here00:00
daxanyways, back to less boring topics00:00
ChunkzZhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed I done this + I've tried to edit interfaces but it says ifupdown is disabled because of netplan?00:01
Bashing-omChunkzZ: See: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan .00:03
MrPocketzMan. I'm struggling with  18.04.0200:12
MrPocketz18.04.2  *.   Trying to make the terminal transparent. Doesn't seem to be an option under preferences.00:12
migmolrodwhat terminal?00:14
neyderhi, i'm using an ubuntu-base with an old fedora-20 kernel (3.10) got to boot, also through chrooting i have installed ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard , it boots. But i have no networking, trough usb-ethernet adapter00:20
neyderhow to make ubuntu up interface , or wich packages will give me wireless00:21
jcottonkernel 3.10???00:22
jcottonyou do realize we're on 5 now right/00:23
neyderjcotton: sure, if you didn't know, OLPC was an initiative to bring One Laptop Per Child, here in Perú , we got 1M of those, and they are useless nowadays, I'll try to bring them a new life00:24
Quozlneyder: welcome.  i'm chief technology officer of OLPC.  i know how you feel.  i wish we could afford to engineer a new kernel and software stack above it.00:25
Quozlneyder: but to answer your question, you'll need the wireless card firmware on the filesystem, and i'm not sure how it is loaded given the changes in ubuntu kernels since have also changed user-space.  then you can use ifup, ifdown, /etc/network/interfaces, and even network manager.00:26
neyderQuozl: i know , I meet (past time) some sugarlabs engineers, like bernie and aleksey,00:27
Quozlneyder: there has been some recent work on linux kernel to get it to boot on XO, see posts and patches by lubomir rintel.00:28
neyderQuozl: also fedora droppend i386 support so that way isn't viable. Ubutnu xenial stills had life until 202400:28
Quozlneyder: yes, although even ubuntu xenial i386 won't work properly on an xo-1, because of missing instructions in the geode cpu.00:29
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Quozlneyder: we had to build webkit's javascript especially to avoid the i386 instructions that are missing.00:30
neyderQuozl: I think this is going to private chat00:30
neydersince we are going away fron ubuntu topic00:31
SrPxFor some reason, when I increase my resolution from 1920x1080 to 3840x2160, my TV (4k lg) turns greenish, as in, there is no red/blue at all, only shades of green. Any idea what could be causing it? Not sure if it is the OS, the HDMI, the TV... not sure how to figure out00:36
ryuoSrPx: sounds like a signal problem. it's possible your cable can't handle that much bandwidth.00:49
pepperon1I have a failed 16.04 -> 18.04 upgrade that's still boost as 16.04 but the desktop is kinda useless, however, I can log in just fine and work from there. I'm thinking it's best to try and stable 16.04 before trying another update. Any advice on how to clean things up?00:49
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Bashing-ompepperoni: Try as ' sudo apt autoclean ; sudo apt autoremove ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo dpkg -C ' .00:54
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pepperoniBashing-om: my apologies, as it turns out, it is 18.04, but it just didn't go cleanly, so I rebooted when it stopped. Just found the proper way to check, problem is, my desktop is not right, no menu bar or anything00:57
pepperoniit's just a background, thoughts on how to clean this up properly?00:57
Bashing-om!info ubuntu-desktop bionic00:58
ubottuubuntu-desktop (source: ubuntu-meta): The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.417.1 (bionic), package size 3 kB, installed size 47 kB00:58
Bashing-ompepperoni: As a shotgun approach maybe see what results ' sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ' .00:59
pepperoniBashing-om: here's what I get ... https://pastebin.com/pxNzFq1R01:01
pepperonianyways, i ran apt update, then apt upgrade, and ended up w/ this ... https://pastebin.com/8TcMYXmw01:04
Bashing-ompepperoni: Looking ^ .01:06
Bashing-om!info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat bionic | pepperoni01:08
ubottupepperoni: Package python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat does not exist in bionic01:08
pepperoniubottu: does that mean I should remove it?01:09
ubottupepperoni: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:09
Bashing-om!info python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat xenial01:09
ubottupython3-aptdaemon.pkcompat (source: aptdaemon): PackageKit compatibilty for AptDaemon. In component main, is extra. Version 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu14 (xenial), package size 22 kB, installed size 181 kB01:09
saber1after I upgraded to 19.04, my chinese input no longer works, sigh 😞01:09
pseud0nymhi everyone, I just upgraded to 19.04 and it looks great, however I can't seem to get the desktop icons to go away. I've tried gnome-tweaks to disable it but it's already disabled (toggled it just to be safe). Also tried poking in dconf but it's disabled there too, however I still have icons (I mean actual file icons, not just home/trash/network)01:10
Bashing-ompepperoni: Memme see what I can find out why python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat was dropped.01:10
pepperoniBashing-om: i appreciate the help01:11
mwsbpseud0nym: Click the little star button next to that "Desktop icons" toggle in gnome-tweak-tool, there's an option for size for the desktop icons, show the personal folder in the desktop, and show the trash icon in the desktop.01:12
Bashing-ompepperoni: As the package no longer exist .. may take me a bit to flounder through.01:13
Bashing-ompepperoni: All I can find is that upstream " the package is going to disappear unless someone takes it over and reintroduces it.". Will not hurt to "look" and see what might happen if we were to remove. ' sudo apt remove --purge -s python3-aptdaemon.pkcompat ' where the 's' switch is to 'simulate'.01:21
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pepperoniBashing-om: ok, thnx, working it01:22
oil_boiBashing-om, thank you01:24
newdimensionWhat is the correct source for debian docs? For instance, I'm trying to find the debian postgres docs01:25
Bashing-omoil_boi: All installed on the SSD now ?01:25
oil_boiYes yes, right now I'm just trying to do a virtual server on my laptop using NextCloud for the first time, but I'm having an issue where backup on ubuntu 19.04 just freezes when I try to use my user from my nextcloud server :T Bashing-om01:26
oil_boiIt's just time to try a restart01:28
Bashing-omoil_boi: Yukkie .. but sorry that is out of my experience range :(01:28
Bashing-omnewdimension: Have you looked in the /usr/share/doc/postgres directory ?01:30
newdimensionBashing-om: That directory only has two files changelog and copyright. But I also have a more general problem. I'm trying to find primary source for docs, am I correct in my understanding that I need to look for debian postgres docs? Since the packages get tailored for Ubuntu01:32
oil_boiA restart worked!01:34
oil_boiAww yiss, now I have a backup server that I can't mess with01:34
Bashing-omnewdimension: Ny goto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages and a search there gives https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL .01:37
Bashing-omoil_boi: \o/01:38
gambl0reanyone know any programs for blue light filters?01:38
oil_boigambl0re, redshift01:40
oil_boishould come up as a snap in the software center01:40
oil_boigambl0re, or, if you go to the settings manager and search "night" displays should come up and you just enable nightlight in the checkbox01:41
gambl0reoil_boi, im using kubuntu01:41
gambl0reis it called redshift or redshift control?01:42
Bashing-om!info redshit disco01:43
ubottuPackage redshit does not exist in disco01:43
Bashing-om!info redshift disco01:43
ubotturedshift (source: redshift): Adjusts the color temperature of your screen. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.12-2 (disco), package size 103 kB, installed size 589 kB01:43
oil_boigambl0re, redshift control installs redshift as far as I know01:44
oil_boiThat was the gui component of it01:44
jcottonI thought that didn't work with Wayland01:44
pepperoniso I successfully ran 'apt update' then 'apt upgrade', however, upon reboot, my desktop is still just a background w/ no tray, so I tried to install ubuntu-desktop and get this ... https://pastebin.com/4pfnk5x201:47
coelhoGood night, I just installed version 16 of the ubunto on my pc, I saw that the current version is at 18. I wonder if it will automatically att or will I have to do something ??01:50
Meadcoelho: you are in luck they just releasted 19.04 today01:51
coelhoas well ?01:52
tomreyn!yy.mm | coelho01:52
ubottucoelho: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle01:52
coelhothe version I installed was 16.04 LTS01:54
tomreyncoelho: i don't understand "I wonder if it will automatically att or will I have to do something ?" what does "att" mean there?01:54
jcb2016how do you troubleshoot video/audio being choppy?01:54
bazhangjcb2016, what codec is it01:54
tomreynjcb2016: system logs, i'd say.01:55
bazhangx265 or x26401:55
jcb2016bazhang, how do i know what codec to use. im using the chrome default browser to play a video01:55
tomreynchrome or chromium-browser?01:56
bazhangjcb2016, and what container is that video in01:56
bazhangjcb2016, how many tabs do you have open in chrome01:57
jcb2016bazhang, i only have one chrome tab open and im playing a youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0emttHwvCOw01:57
bazhangperhaps webm01:58
coelhotomreyn: att = update / att= PT-BR01:58
jcottonYT is vp901:58
bazhangparts are01:58
jcb2016bazhang, thats with any video though01:58
bazhangthey still have webm01:59
jcb2016bazhang, pick any youbue video and it does it01:59
tomreyncoelho: i see, good to know.01:59
bazhangjcb2016, either its streaming issue, ie internet connection, or on yt's end02:00
bazhangjcb2016, if you fully dl the video and play it with vlc or smplayer, is it the same02:01
jcb2016bazhang, can you give me a video to test that you know that works? i really think its on my side02:04
jcb2016tomreyn, chrome browser02:07
bazhangjcb2016, I just tested that link you gave us02:07
bazhangit becomes unwatchable about 17 mins or so in02:08
bazhangjust a picture of his face02:08
jcb2016bazhang, can you try this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtqtyyGZvXM02:09
bazhangno problemo with that one jcb201602:11
bazhangnext step would be to dl and play in vlc/smplayer02:11
bazhangand then a different browser02:12
jcb2016bazhang, im really trying to watch a serice from my church that keeps lagging in and out. thats why i think its on my side02:12
bazhangjcb2016, thus the different tests to make sure of that, those are all I can think of presently, apologies!02:14
ChetManlywhy cant I share a folder vbox02:21
jcb2016bazhang, ok cool thanks02:21
ChetManlywhere is the sf_downloads folder02:22
jcb2016has anyone installed mate desktop in ubuntu? i saw a guide on the interent but i don't think its right02:23
ChetManlyguest additions check, user added to vboxsf check, shared folder in vbox settings for guest check  ... folder empty... wtf02:24
ChetManlyi dont know how anyone uses that  DE environment in regular ubuntu....02:25
ChetManlyhow else besides a shared folder can I move a file between guest and host02:27
tomreynChetManly: did you mean to join #vbox by chance?02:28
tomreyn!ask | unsp02:41
ubottuunsp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:41
jamie_1okay, so i decided why not a moved to 19.04, so right now when i log in im getting a blank screen and i believe its related to the drivers for nvidia, which way is best to update them from the ttyl02:42
jamie_1issue to is im running on systemd boot so im not quite sure how to use no_modeset02:42
tomreynjamie_1: there's now a failsafe graphics opiton on the grub menu just for nomodeset02:43
jamie_1tomreyn: i dont have grub02:43
tomreynso how do you boot then?02:44
tatertotsgood times02:44
jamie_1systemd boot02:44
tomreynoh you said so, i didn't get that. i have no experience with systemd boot.02:44
jamie_1ooof.... neither do i up untill the last month or so02:45
jamie_1i guess ill go into the systemd boot menu and see if going to 4.19 kernal makes a difference... ill be back.. id go to pop!_os support but that requires a gui02:45
tomreynyou could try this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_parameters#systemd-boot02:46
jamie_1im on said laptop using irssi XD02:46
tomreynthe parameter is "nomodeset"02:46
jamie_1okay, thanks02:46
jamie_1ill be back hopefully with a working system after some tweaks lol02:46
tomreynalternatively, nouveau.modeset=002:47
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ScottbertWhat's the trick to IP printing in Ubuntu? I figured it out once before but I don't remember.02:56
Scottbertsocket://ip-address and ipp://ip-adress don't work02:56
tomreynScottbert: maybe the ip address is wrong, or cheanges?02:57
tomreynpart of the url needs to be the printer spool, too, so it's not just the ip address.02:57
ScottbertThe ip address is right; it's manually configured from front panel, everything else prints to it fine.02:59
ScottbertI don't actually know what a spool is; when configuring it in windows it just takes the IP and creates an IP printing port for it.02:59
ScottbertSo it's something on my computer? How do I get the name of the printer spool?03:00
doug16ka spool is a print queue03:00
tatertotswell it's safe to say your printer is NOT a Brother or HP brand03:01
ScottbertIt's an HP Laserjet 4+03:01
doug16ktypically printers are really really slow so the whole architecture in the OS assumes queuing is needed03:01
tatertotsyou're struggling with a HP printer in Linux?...why ...HPLIP man HPLIP03:02
Scottbertno manual entry for hplip03:02
doug16kand it is expected that 5 people may suddenly try to print at the exact same time, spool fixes that and puts them in sane order03:02
ScottbertI mean, it could just be that the printer configuration tool in linux is badly-designed, Windows always figured it out okay...03:03
ScottbertAll it should need is the IP of the printer.03:03
ScottbertWhat other information do I need, and where would I get it that Linux couldn't get it automatically?03:03
tatertotsScottbert: so you do NOT have hplip eh?....03:03
ScottbertNever heard of it.03:03
tatertotsi wonder how many times i have to use the term HPLIP before a person at least googles it03:04
ScottbertOh, HPLIP package is installed. I have drivers and everything03:04
ScottbertBut the drivers aren't the issue.03:04
ScottbertLinux just gives me an input for 'Connection:'03:05
Scottbertand so I give it ipp:// or socket:// or whatever03:05
ScottbertAnd that's all the information the OS should need from me03:05
tatertotsScottbert: HPLIP offers the end user to print test page after configuration03:05
ScottbertI don't understand. hplip is a package that's installed but it's not a command I can run03:06
tatertotsScottbert: sounds like this is the first time you're hearing of this, and you did NOT do any such thing, I don't think you even ran the hplip setup (my gut says you did not)03:07
tatertotsScottbert: good luck :)03:07
Randunehi all03:07
RanduneI am doing some research on a bug regarding the mouse wheel scrolling speed change not having any effect..03:07
ScottbertIt is the first time I'm hearing of this. I just looked in package manager and it says hplip and hplip-data are installed, though03:07
Randunebug 168219303:07
ubottubug 1682193 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Mouse acceleration significantly reduced after upgrade to 17.04" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/168219303:07
Randunethe mouse wheel scroll speed settings don't have any effect03:08
ScottbertSearching in the application launcher for hplip also turns up bupkis03:08
tatertotsScottbert: for GUI you'd need to install hplip-gui03:08
tatertotsScottbert: notice it has "gui" in the name of the package03:09
tatertotsScottbert: notice the one you already have does NOT have "gui" in the name of the package03:09
tatertotsthus as a result your gui searching result will be nill03:09
tatertotsyou probably should install the "gui" though...it'd probably speed things up03:10
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tatertotsi'm going to leave you to it now Scottbert ...take care03:11
unsphow to change the name?03:11
ScottbertIt clearly connected to the printer, but the printer says MIO error so I guess it didn't configure it right03:13
ScottbertYeah I installed the gui one and used the tool03:15
Scottbertpower cycled the printer, sent the test page again, it worked this time03:16
Trumphello zhangjunhu03:17
jamie_1okay... so nomodeset didnt didnt do it either, i did grab a paste of my journalctl -e http://termbin.com/0v5dy03:17
jamie_1im not seeing anything to obnoxious in the journalctl output that should be keeping it from logging in03:18
Bashing-omjamie_1: ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' anything jump out to ya there ?03:21
jamie_1Bashing-om: so i think i know the source, i just did a new user from terminal and i can login fine from there so i believe it has to do with the user configs03:22
jamie_1Bashing-om: any ideas which configs in .config for the local user should be removed to possibly fix the issue?03:23
Bashing-omjamie_1: K; then what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' Do you have authority to access the desktop ?03:23
spinningCatcan you connect two different source to bluetooth at the same time?03:24
Bashing-omjamie_1: "-rw------- 1 sysop sysop 5272 Apr 18 13:52 .ICEauthority -rw------- 1 sysop sysop   54 Apr 18 13:52 .Xauthority03:24
Bashing-om" where I am sysop.03:25
jamie_1Bashing-om: it says i own ICEauthority but Xauthority says it doesnt exist03:25
jamie_1jamie:jamie on ICEauthority03:25
wonderworldspinningCat: yes. bluetooth supports 7 connections03:26
jamie_1Bashing-om: and checking the working user it doesnt have a .Xauthority03:26
spinningCathmm i connect my phone to my computer i cannot connect my headphone i got host is down error03:28
spinningCati cant connect second device03:30
Bashing-omjamie_1: Think we have to set it then . see the output 'sudo sudo -V" for "Environment variables to preserve:".03:33
spinningCatgot device added but failed to connect03:36
spinningCatwhat does that mean?03:36
Bashing-omjajaNever mind ^ . That variable is not set until the GUI is started. And you have yet to activate the GUI.03:37
jamie_1Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/4cbm03:37
Bashing-omjamie_1: ^^ bad highlight.03:38
jamie_1Bashing-om: ??03:38
spinningCatwhat the hell03:39
ScottbertIs there a way to share folders on NTFS partitions through Samba?03:41
ScottbertLinux did it flawlessly and intuitively like 6 years ago03:42
tatertotsScottbert: cool...glad you can print with your HP printer03:42
spinningCatsystem cannot find my bluetooth03:43
spinningCatwhat is the problem i really wonder03:43
Bashing-omjamie_1: Any hoy for starting the GUI '03:43
Bashing-omsudo systemctl start graphical.target ' ?03:43
jamie_1Bashing-om: running a status tells me it's active03:44
Bashing-omjamie_1: What desktop are you running ? ubuntu now has the GUI on TTY1.03:46
spinningCatubuntu 19.04 is buggy?03:46
jamie_1going to ctl+alt+f1 it gives me a login screen03:46
jamie_1Bashing-om: for me it seems to be running on tty203:47
spinningCatit is same in 16.0403:47
Scottbertyeah and now I know about hplip so setting up hp printers on linux should never be a problem again03:47
jamie_1Scottbert: usually you would have to go into the exports and edit the conf so that it would allow exports the either a specific ip or the the subnet, from there you should just have to ask for it from another computer that has the ability to understand ntfs03:49
jamie_1i know on the servers i work with its /etc/exports03:49
Bashing-omjamie_1: Well that is different . Let's see what X thinks / ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .03:49
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jamie_1Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/k1yw\03:51
Scottbert'exports'? I guess I have a new term to google03:51
jamie_1http://termbin.com/k1yw dam \ getting in the way03:51
ScottbertLearning a lot getting linux working03:52
jamie_1Scottbert: im not sure if there is a gui way to do it, im used to working with servers03:52
Ben_XIf you delete an app, will the icon disappear eventually from the applications menu?03:52
ScottbertThere /was/ six years ago, you just right clicked a folder in dolphin and used the share tab and wysiwyg03:53
Ben_XI deleted ICQ but the icon is still in my applications menu03:53
ScottbertI haven't successfully shared ANY folder in 18.10, but I'm guessing that NTFS might introduce permissions issues?03:53
jamie_1Scottbert: i lied, thats a centos thing, let me find it for ubuntu03:54
ScottbertHoly shit someone still using ICQ. I never saw the need for people to split themselves up amongst aim, msn, yahoo, and so on... ICQ did the job, why make copies that don't talk to eachother03:54
Ben_XI downloaded it but it sucks03:55
ScottbertI'd have been using ICQ up until Discord came out if everyone didn't insist on using like ten different messaging programs03:55
Bashing-omjamie_1: Reading - I be awhile.03:55
jamie_1Bashing-om: you're fine, im trying to help this gentlman with ntfs shares03:55
Ben_XI thought it would be like it was a few years ago but they changed it03:55
tatertotsjamie_1: actually ect/exports or exports you might be confusing smb/nfs03:55
tatertotsmost likely03:56
ScottbertI honestly haven't used icq in many years because almost noone else I knew used it once aim came out03:56
jamie_1tatertots: dam you got me there.... has roughly the same outcome of sharing folders, just in a different way03:56
tatertotswow icq...dating yourself a bit there lol03:56
jamie_1im always mixing the two up due to working with nfs all the time at work03:57
tatertotsjamie_1: yeah i could smell where you thought you were going03:57
Ben_XIt doesn't even have chat rooms anymore03:57
Bashing-omjamie_1: Humm still reading " 7.274] (++) using VT number 1" so far the GUI is in TTY1 ,03:57
ScottbertI haven't successfully shared ANY folder with samba in 18.10, but I'm guessing that NTFS might introduce permissions issues? I don't actually know -- since I can't even share a non-ntfs folder, I can't make a differential diagnosis.03:57
tatertotsBen_X: you just dated yourself too lol03:57
jamie_1tatertots: with nfs you just find the exports table, add the folder and the subnet you want to share to and then reload it and go to the other system and ask for it and if you want you can even set it as a permanent mount03:58
jamie_1i work with servers more than desktops XD03:58
Bashing-omjamie_1: Odd one that I have never seen "systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card1 226:1 fd 12 paused".03:59
jamie_1Bashing-om: one sec... let me check which one is nvidia04:00
jamie_1hrm Bashing-om im not sure on that one, it supposed to be using card 1 (nvidia) and not using card 0 (intel) its the way its handling the hybrid gpu system to not cause fun stuff of trying to swap gpu's and instead to save power and swap to intel just reboot with intel04:01
Bashing-omjamie_1: Yup .. Some new way that nvidia is switching as we have "(II) systemd-logind: releasing fd for 226:1" .04:02
jamie_1its odd that its working fine for a new user but not mine, is there a way to remove the session based configs which would then generate a new one Bashing-om04:03
jamie_1i feel like it might be a config generated on the old system that is persisting after upgrade04:04
tatertotsnice!..+10 pts for testing a different user account04:05
jamie_1tatertots: my like fifth thought was user based configs causing an issue, which it did turn out to be, but i dont know which ones would be doing it and i dont want to just start deleting stuff hoping for the best XD04:06
jamie_1Bashing-om: any fun ideas on what user config to start deleting04:12
jamie_1know what.... were gonna move all my configs .* to old and restore the default user setups04:16
Bashing-omjamie_1: Sorry, but no - I too am not familiar enough with an (u)buntu DE to know the config files, but yes I do agree it is an issue in the user session.04:16
jamie_1Bashing-om: that did the trick04:19
Bashing-omjamie_1: Wut ? What did ever did you do ?04:20
jamie_1i did '  sudo mv .*  old   && cp -rT /etc/skel/ /home/jamie04:20
jamie_1have to set a lot of my programs back up, but ehh thats not the end of the world04:20
Bashing-omjamie_1: Well ! .. and what is the DE you have ?04:21
jamie_1Bashing-om: pop04:21
jamie_1im not on ubuntu ubuntu, im on pop!_os but their support is kinda lackluster to say the least04:21
Bashing-omjamie_1: You lucked out . as pop is not supported here :) .. we are particular to the ubuntu family only.04:23
jamie_1Bashing-om: issue is getting my gpu to work on vanilla ubuntu is lucky at best04:24
jamie_1Bashing-om: also, why is that?04:24
Bashing-omjamie_1: For instance system76 makes changes we can not be aware of. How can we support something we know nothing about ?04:26
jamie_1Bashing-om: understandable04:26
jamie_1well now that my work laptop is back to working order, time for bed XD04:31
Abdullah19.04 doesn't have live version?04:34
AbdullahI mean boot without installing it on hard drive?04:34
Bashing-omAbdullah: The desktop releases do have the live envirinment. What ISO are you booting ?04:36
leonardusHow do I upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04?04:37
Bashing-omAbdullah: 19.04 minimal, alternate, server di not have a GUI - live environments.04:38
AbdullahCan we install some packages in live boot ?04:39
Bashing-omAbdullah: Yes, bit the medium os read only - the updates will not persist a reboot,04:40
Bashing-om!upgrade | leonardus04:41
ubottuleonardus: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade04:41
yov00Hey guys, is this the place to ask some questions?05:21
lotuspsychjeyov00: if its ubuntu related, yes05:22
yov00Yes 18.0405:22
lotuspsychjeyov00: shoot mate05:22
yov00Well, I am pretty new to Linux and I enjoy playing games, I've installed all the dirvers + DXVK and Esync but still my fps is nowhere near what it should be05:23
yov00What can I check or go to understand more about this05:24
lotuspsychjeyov00: is your graphics driver installed?05:24
yov00Yes latest from SoftwareUpdater nvidia 41805:24
lotuspsychjeyov00: wich nvidia chipset please?05:25
yov00wine 3.6.105:25
yov00How can i check that05:25
lotuspsychjeyov00: uname -a && sudo lshw -C video05:25
yov004.18.0-17-generic #18~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 15 15:27:12 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux05:26
lotuspsychjeyov00: then the card chipset=05:26
yov00*-display UNCLAIMED05:27
yov00       description: VGA compatible controller05:27
yov00       product: GK107M [GeForce GT 755M]05:27
yov00       vendor: NVIDIA Corporation05:27
yov00       physical id: 005:27
yov00       bus info: pci@0000:01:00.005:27
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lotuspsychjeyov00: your card is an optimus, did you set nvidia-prime to performance mode?05:28
lotuspsychjeyov00: and where did you install your driver from?05:29
yov00Yes it's set to Nvidia performance mode05:29
lotuspsychjenice yov0005:29
yov00As far as I can remember from SUpdater05:29
lotuspsychjeyov00: supdater?05:30
yov00Software Updater05:30
lotuspsychjeyov00: lets have a look wich driver ubuntu reccomends= ubuntu-drivers list05:31
lotuspsychjeyov00: did you add the ubuntu graphics ppa or so?05:33
SrPxAnyone uses Steam Link with an Ubuntu host? What is a good game to start the Steam Link so I can quickly exit to desktop? I couldn't find a reliable way to do that :(05:33
lotuspsychje!steam | SrPx05:33
krytarikyov00: You might want to start using a pastebin service.. >_>05:33
ubottuSrPx: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.05:33
yov00sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa05:33
yov00is that it ?05:33
axyHello channel05:33
lotuspsychjeyov00: yes, did you try a 390 yet to compare with 418?05:33
axywondering if it's possible to set transition animation speeds in ubuntu05:34
axythere was something called compizconfig before but I believe it's not working any more in gnome05:34
lotuspsychjeaxy: on gnome & wayland, compiz doesnt work anymore05:34
axylotuspsychje, I see05:34
yov00Nope I was at first when I switched to ubuntu but later while installing lutris I did updated it on 41805:34
lotuspsychjeaxy: if you want effects back, you need a flavor based on gnome205:34
axylotuspsychje, well I don2t want effects back05:35
axyI jsut want to disable or speed up the windows transitions05:35
yov00Okay I will try that after work thank you for your assistance and sry for the ignorant questions05:35
axywhen I disable animations, the whole shell animations are gone, including the app drawer05:35
lotuspsychjeaxy: gnome3 doesnt work the same way/style as unity or gnome2 with compiz05:35
axyI just want to disable the weird stretchy window animations, they're pretty obvious when making the window fullscreen05:35
lotuspsychjeaxy: if you wanna start tweaking try: gnome-tweak-tool & dconf-editor05:36
axylotuspsychje, checked both, they both seem to have one option for animations:05:36
lotuspsychjeyov00: thats what ubuntu is for, dont worry05:36
lotuspsychjeaxy: when i launch dconf-editor i have enable/disable animations05:37
axylotuspsychje, yes same here05:38
axyno other settings05:38
axywhen animations are disabled, thewy're gone for the whole shell05:38
axyI'm just annoyed by the window resizes05:38
lotuspsychjeaxy: what about if you search on keyword 'windows'05:38
lotuspsychjeaxy: few dconf settings there05:39
Rembohello, does one of the following patches require reboot after patching? https://pastebin.com/iwwxkfVn05:40
lotuspsychjeRembo: when your system needs a reboot after updates, it will notice you05:43
lotuspsychjeRembo: unless you need any features on some program that also might need a reboot to become active05:43
lotuspsychjeRembo: usually its not a bad thing to reboot once in a while05:45
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Smedleshi all, installed disco as an upgrade to 18.10 but after booting, mouse point moves, but clicking does nothing, no keyboard input either06:04
Smedlesbooting from live USB and all is good06:04
Smedlesany thoughts?06:04
tatertotsi hear 19.04 is out06:20
ledenitatertots, yes06:21
martind_hello guys06:29
martind_I wonder if I can assign different shortkeys for the standard copy/paste on my keyboard somewhere06:30
jatttatertots: http://releases.ubuntu.com/disco/06:32
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papegaaijhi all, yesterday I've upgraded kubuntu from 18.10 to 19.04 and now it seems my postgresql databases are all gone06:59
papegaaijas far as I remember, I was already running postgresql 11 before the upgrade, and I still have 11 after the upgrade, so it's not a version issue07:00
papegaaijlooking in /var/lib/postgresql only shows a directory 11, which seems to contain the empty database I've got at the moment07:02
papegaaijis it possible that a dist upgrade wiped all my databases from my system?07:02
ducassepapegaaij: others have reported similar issues, aiui07:02
papegaaijducasse: that would be a very serious issue then07:03
ducassepapegaaij: i would agree07:04
papegaaijis there a bug for this already?07:05
ducassenot afaik, feel free to create one07:05
GeertI am trying to install Ubuntu Server 18.04, in the installer I configure a manual IP (and the settings are correct), when I press `Done`, it goes back to step 1 (select language). How do I fix that? I tried several times, and even re-created the VM07:08
GeertI also checked the firewall logs, no IP packets where rejected07:09
mousesGeert: bad image?07:09
mousesdid you checksum it?07:10
GeertNo, but I'll do that, hang on :)07:10
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tatertotsGeert: does Auto/Automagic IP allow you to complete the installation?....you probably haven't tried that yet so you probably cannot answer that definitively07:12
mousesGeert: just in case!07:12
GeertHmmm, seeems it's *-live-server* and not *-server. My bad xD07:14
papegaaijducasse: how do i report bugs?07:15
ducasse!bug | papegaaij07:16
ubottupapegaaij: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.07:16
papegaaijok, i've tried ubuntu-bug, but that command is totally bullshit07:17
papegaaijit starts with some options, and I say I want to report a problem with 'dist-upgrade', it then continues with: what kind of hardware issue do you have?07:18
papegaaijwhen I press cancel, the application just crashes07:19
papegaaijwhen i start with 'other problem', it continues with 'what kind of display problem do you have?'07:19
papegaaijand if i then say 'I don't know', it says: "Text" with yes, no cancel07:20
papegaaijdo i press yes, no or cancel on 'text'?07:21
caffeepapegaaij: go through as best as you can, it'll create a page you can add to later07:25
ducassepapegaaij: how exactly did you upgrade, btw?07:25
papegaaijI ran sudo do-release-upgrade -d07:29
papegaaiji've created this bug manually: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-11/+bug/182547607:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1825476 in postgresql-11 (Ubuntu) "Postgresql databases all gone after dist-upgrade to 19.04" [Undecided,New]07:30
papegaaiji can't get any meaningful out of ubuntu-bug, it just keeps asking totally irrelevant questions always ending with "Text"07:31
OerHekshow odd, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-11/11.2-107:32
OerHeksoh, the data itself, not postgresql?07:32
papegaaijyes, the data is gone07:33
papegaaijall of it07:33
papegaaijthe database directory was simply dropped and reinitialized07:33
tatertotssurely you have a backup ?07:35
papegaaijwell, sort of, but this is my developer laptop, and i don't create regular backups for my development stuff07:36
OerHeksgood thing you reported this, i read something simular yesterday, but that was a claim about porstgresql-10..07:37
papegaaijwell, this is going to ruin my day :(07:38
MrElendigalways dump before upgrading07:46
papegaaijMrElendig: well, that's something i've learned today, i've had trouble with upgrades before, but never had my entire database being overwritten with an empty one07:51
papegaaijit was all test and dummy data, but even that takes time to setup again07:53
paul1ushello, this is probably a silly question, but I was not able to find the answer online. I ran ps -ef and saw that there are many loopX processes running. X being a number from 0 to 63. is this normal? what are they for?07:55
tatertotssnaps or whatever they call them now07:57
lotuspsychje!who | tatertots08:01
ubottutatertots: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:01
deancdoes ubuntu not boot into the graphical desktop environment if a diswplay is not attached?08:17
deancive been running my machine just fine, setting up vnc on it etc with the idea it sits in the corner and i can vnc in. i now unplugged the monitor and booted, and vnc can connect but screen is black08:17
ubottuIt's out! Announcement at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-April/000243.html - Release Notes: https://ubottu.com/y/Dingo08:55
solsTiCehi. Using wl (broadcom-stat-dkms) driver, I can connect to any wifi AP. this fals with suppositdly wrong auth passphrase. anyone got that too? how to fix it ?08:59
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solsTiCethe AP log shows that authentication was goos09:02
JohnGavrhey guys09:29
JohnGavr19.04 is ready for use??09:30
JohnGavrany problem?09:30
JellyfishJonHey I'm on 18.04 bionic ubuntu - bought a vps - issue where tmp file is using disk space up 100%09:32
JellyfishJondf -h Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev            713M     0  713M   0% /dev tmpfs           149M   20M  129M  14% /run /dev/vda1        48G   48G     0 100% / tmpfs           743M     0  743M   0% /dev/shm tmpfs           5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock tmpfs           743M     0  743M   0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs           149M     0  149M   0% /run/user/009:33
JellyfishJoni have ZERO knowledge of Linux at all. I'm trying to learn09:34
EriC^^!paste | JellyfishJon09:34
ubottuJellyfishJon: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:34
qwebirc38681Hello everyone09:34
M_aDJohnGavr: as with every just released OS or software it can contain bugs, just read the release notes09:34
jeremy31solsTiCe: That might be wifi power management causing that or maybe even having ufw enabled09:34
qwebirc38681I have a quick question if anyone has a bit of a time09:34
JohnGavrqwebirc38681: tell me09:34
qwebirc38681I made a bootable Ubuntu flash drive via macOS, but when I try to boot it on my other PC via boot menu, upon selecting the flash drive as a boot device, it boots back to Windows09:35
JohnGavrWhich program you use for the flash?09:36
JohnGavrIn other pc have you windows?09:37
JellyfishJon 1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38    Disk space usage 100% info:  xxxx@xxxx:~# df -h Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev            713M     0  713M   0% /dev tmpfs           149M   20M  129M  14% /run /dev/vda1        48G   48G     0 100% / tmpfs           743M     0  743M   0% /dev/shm tmpfs           5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lo09:37
JellyfishJonargh trying to text09:37
qwebirc38681yeah JohnGavr09:39
JohnGavrHave you disable fastboot?09:39
VictorJianfeiYehIt seems that your disk space has been used up.09:40
qwebirc38681I didn't, should i do that via BIOS?09:40
JohnGavrfastboot on windows09:40
JohnGavrhave you got win10?09:40
qwebirc38681I do have Windows10, but it's broken currently09:41
qwebirc38681It boots extremely slowly, takes about 15 minutes after entering my password09:41
JellyfishJon@victorjianfeiyeh how do i clear it out09:41
qwebirc38681Even though I use an M.2 SSD to boot09:42
JohnGavrthe best solution is to format the disk09:42
qwebirc38681which one, the bootable USB?09:42
qwebirc38681you mean I should try again?09:42
JohnGavrwith linux no09:42
JohnGavrif you dont disable fastboot and secureboot (on BIOS)09:43
JohnGavryou can't boot on USB09:43
qwebirc38681ohh okay09:43
JohnGavrIF you have Windows .iso, flash it to a USB09:43
JohnGavrdo the format09:43
JohnGavrand if you want dual boot, first Windows and then Linux09:43
VictorJianfeiYehThat's not BIOS anymore, but UEFI.09:43
VictorJianfeiYehUEFI supports secureboot09:43
JohnGavrVictorJianfeiYeh: so when we tell BIOS setup in new pc, we mean UEFI setup?09:44
JohnGavrThen the power of habit09:46
VictorJianfeiYehNew PC cancelled BIOS, and use UEFI instead. However, UEFI still has a "legacy" mode to be compatible to BIOS.09:46
JellyfishJoncan someone tell me how to delete a tmp file folder that is using up 100% of my disk space? I can't do anything09:46
VictorJianfeiYehMaybe you can install Linux and then Windows, but then you may need to repair the GNU GRUB if you want the dualboot.09:47
JohnGavrJellyfishJon: thank you for your info09:47
VictorJianfeiYehIf you install Windows and then Linux, it is automatically dualboot.09:47
qwebirc38681JohnGavr: yeah but I've been trying to get files off my Windows 10 before I do a resinstall09:47
qwebirc38681I don't wanna format it yet09:47
qwebirc38681that's why I am actually trying to get Ubuntu up and running09:48
JohnGavrI said what you need to do...09:48
JohnGavrFastboot and secureboot disable09:48
parclytaxelQuestion: has anyone been affected by the install-info bug when upgrading to Ubuntu 19.04?09:48
vltJellyfishJon: What did you do, what did you expect to happen and what happened instead?09:48
JellyfishJonI was just trying to run a bitcoin daemon, my own node09:49
JellyfishJoni went to install it09:49
parclytaxelIs it any serious, that bug? Do I need to do anything other than clear the unnecessary packages?09:49
lapionHmm every form of upgrade to 19.04 or 18:10 breaks09:49
JellyfishJonand i see i can't write because it's already full (halfway through install)09:49
qwebirc38681right thanks09:49
parclytaxel(Of course I'm referring to bug 1823004 on the bug tracker)09:50
ubottubug 1823004 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 19.04 - cannot install 'install-info'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182300409:50
VictorJianfeiYehcan someone tell me how to delete a tmp file folder that is using up 100% of my disk space? I can't do anything09:51
VictorJianfeiYehIf you believe it is only `/tmp` that used up your space, why don't you run `rm -rf /tmp/*`?09:51
VictorJianfeiYeh `rm -rf /tmp/*`09:52
VictorJianfeiYehIt seems that Riot.im doesn't support markdown09:53
JellyfishJonvictorjianfeiyeh --> you want me to post the output of     rm -rf /tmp/*  ?09:53
qwebirc38681okay soo JohnGavr, I can't see the option for FastBoot in BIOS, but my Secure Boot was already and USB Boot is also enabled09:54
qwebirc38681Secure Boot was already disabled*09:54
JohnGavrFastboot is at windows OS09:54
JohnGavrnot on bios09:54
JellyfishJonvictorjianfeiyeh ---- i'm literally brand new to linux. I have a VPS and root using PuTTY for terminal. I just want to install a bitcoin node on it. And this damn disk space issue is happening09:54
VictorJianfeiYehOh, I see. Then it is very normal09:55
qwebirc38681but I can't boot into Windows to change in John09:55
VictorJianfeiYehA botcoin node requires hundreds of GBs09:55
JellyfishJonDo I run the command you specified -- rm -rf /tmp/*09:55
JellyfishJonand that will fix it?09:56
JohnGavri can't do something for that09:56
JellyfishJonThat's fine.09:56
JohnGavrMaybe you lost the files...09:56
JellyfishJonI thought blockchain was 20 GB disk spac309:56
qwebirc38681How unfortunate, can I do anything from the recovery menu?09:56
parclytaxelOverall my 19.04 installation (from 18.10) behaves fine, but is there something amiss?09:57
Ben64JellyfishJon: closer to 10 times that09:57
JellyfishJonVictorJianfeiYeh ---->If I run out of space that's fine, I'll buy more09:57
qwebirc38681I am able to access that, if I can use that to my advantage09:57
JellyfishJonI don't mind buying more - that's fine09:57
JellyfishJonBut this is in tmp files09:57
VictorJianfeiYehA bitcoin node stores everything of the mining and transaction history, which requires hundreds of GBs.09:57
JellyfishJonhow do I clear it out09:57
JellyfishJonThat's fine if that's true... but what about the tmp file?09:57
Ben64delete it09:57
JellyfishJonI can't even install the BASIC CLIENT09:57
JellyfishJonhow do i delete it from root? I don't know basic commands :/09:58
JellyfishJonok cool thanks09:58
JellyfishJonwith RM command09:58
Ben64maybe you shouldn't be running bitcoin though?09:58
JellyfishJonthis is what i should do "rm -rf /tmp/*" --- will remove all TMP files ?09:58
JellyfishJonI've used Bitcoin since before Mt Gox09:58
Ben64that will remove everything in /tmp09:59
crunch31hey guys. need ur help with removing desktop packages from my ubuntu server. i've been messing asround with some desktops and seem to be unable to remove them properly. ls -l /usr/share/xsessions still gives me 4 different desktops, though i've removed all the packages i installed previusly. any clue what to do?09:59
* VictorJianfeiYeh sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/BjjxKGSTVksNEQQPiCyYwJLq >09:59
JellyfishJonMaybe i won't run full node -- but I can't even install basic client because of tmp error09:59
JohnGavrqwebirc38681: one other solution is to flash windows iso and do repair09:59
VictorJianfeiYehI think your problem is just that you run out of space.09:59
JohnGavrmaybe that solve your problem09:59
parclytaxelVictorJianfeiYeh: what did you just send?09:59
JellyfishJonOk let me see09:59
VictorJianfeiYehjust copied from you pastebin10:00
JellyfishJonOK i will try. Thank you for the help. I will probably keep this as reference and chat here10:00
JellyfishJonVictorJianfeiYeh -- thanks10:00
JellyfishJonBen64 ---- thank you for you too :)10:00
qwebirc38681oh JohnGavr, I was able to select to boot from USB via recovery menu, but it said "The sected boot device failed. Press <Enter> to Continue. Maybe I failed at the Ubuntu creation?10:01
JohnGavrhave you flash 19.04?10:02
VictorJianfeiYehMaybe you failed at the "secureboot" verification10:02
qwebirc38681Err no I flashed 18.04.210:02
lapionJellyfishJon, I am no mining expert but I think the tmp location is where the miner stores it's processing data.....10:02
qwebirc38681VictorJianfeiYeh: I had that disabled if you are talking to me haha10:03
JellyfishJonlapion -- oh ok...well, I hadn't even gotten to start it. I was just doing basic install. It wasn't mining or even turned on...I'm talking just the basic file package like .gz10:03
JohnGavrqwebirc38681: i think fast boot cancelled the process10:03
JellyfishJonI wasn't even able to install the basic client10:03
qwebirc38681Damnit, that could be the case10:03
JellyfishJonlapion ----> I've been using Bitcoin since before Mt. Gox and I take it as payment in my businesses.....I have done some front end development but really I know fuck all compared to you guys.10:04
VictorJianfeiYehFastboot may also be a problem.10:04
lapionJellyfishJon, are you sure you did not download the gz file from some nefarious site and your account i hacked ?10:04
JellyfishJonlapion ---> if it's an issue of disk space or anything ----> i have plenty of $ to upgrade10:04
qwebirc38681VictorJianfeiYeh: But I have no means to disable it, since I cannot boot into Windows10:04
Ben64JellyfishJon: you don't need to even run it to get bitcoin sent to you10:04
VictorJianfeiYehI have no idea.10:05
JellyfishJonlapion ---> yes, I'm sure. I'm not unintelligent but I just don't program or use Linux. I believe I got files from bitcoin.org10:05
Ben64JellyfishJon: i don't understand your goal10:05
stevendale!wtf | JellyFishjon10:05
JellyfishJonBen64 ----> I'm standing up a blockchain explorer...I need to pull in data for my colleague in real time10:05
stevendale!language | JellyfishJon10:05
ubottuJellyfishJon: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList10:05
Ben64JellyfishJon: then you probably need more than a vps for that10:06
JellyfishJonAnyways, it doesn't matter. I just wanted a Linux question. I have the money and will power...just trying to learn. I'll get a full node stood up - if I need to buy more space etc then I'll do that. I don't care10:06
JellyfishJonBen64 -----> Should I purchase a "dedicated server" package?10:06
Ben64yep, with a very quick ssd10:06
JellyfishJonBen64 ----> If I gotta throw $100,000 straight up to get my blockchain explorer and data API10:06
JellyfishJonben64 ---- then i'll do that10:06
JellyfishJonben64 --- why do I need the quick ssd?10:07
Ben64if you're trying to search through 250GB of data in a reasonable amount of time10:07
JellyfishJonben64 ---- i'm intelligent in some areas, retarded with the computer hardware nomenclature, anything serious in programming....don't know anything10:07
stevendaleJellyfishJon, with 100K... make your own cryptocurrency10:08
JellyfishJonBen64 ---- cool! This is helpful. I appreciate your help. I really want to learn this10:08
JellyfishJonstevendale ---> got almost 10 million usd equivalents :) maybe i will10:08
JellyfishJonstevendale --- to be clear too - I do not care about that money. I just want to start getting more involved. The blockexplorer and apis will be non-profit and to further the cause... i just thought I have to learn the sys admin and set up stuff in order to be confident in operating such a venture10:09
Ben64must be nice10:10
JellyfishJonstevendale -- money is important, but it's not important once you have enough for your basic needs and living10:10
JellyfishJonme working paycheck to paycheck -- or having a nest egg --- or having too much money ---- i'm still just as unhappy/happy --- i'm about the work, real value for the world10:10
lapionJellyfishJon, is the /tmp folder part of you quota ?10:11
JellyfishJonlapion - it might be. I will clear it out and then retry and see what happens10:11
JellyfishJonlapion --- *will clear out the temp with that comand10:11
JellyfishJonBen64 --- as long as you're not a materialist and not income insecure ... it really doesn't matter that much. I'm early 3010:12
lapionJellyfishJon, maybe be that the /tmp folder is shared amongst all users of the host server in which case I would change hosting provider10:12
Ben64i am income insecure, so it does matter10:12
JellyfishJonben64 --- early 30's ... i have clinical depression...so sometimes i wish i never had the $10:12
qwebirc38681If I insert the bootable Ubuntu flash drive back to Windows and it doesn't understand the file system, does that mean I messed up during the making of the bootable drive?10:12
JellyfishJonben64 - if you're in here talking, i feel like you're smart. so not sure why you're having trouble10:13
Ben64JellyfishJon: because intelligence doesn't really correlate to earnings10:13
lapionJellyfishJon, check your quota on the system with the command quota10:14
JellyfishJonben64 --- IMHO there's no such thing as intelligence -- and you get more money by being consistent and working hard. That's all i did10:14
JellyfishJonlapion - sec10:14
Ben64JellyfishJon: doesn't work for everyone10:14
Ben64i've worked hard for the past 17 years, and i'm not sure if i'll be able to pay for rent in a month or so10:15
JellyfishJonben64 -- why not? we have a saying where I'm from "The grind don't lie" --- you do need to be a team player and work with others well though...that's a significant handicap if you can't work with others10:15
JellyfishJonben64 - why not?10:16
Ben64it's just how things turn out sometimes10:16
JellyfishJonlapion - i don't have the command quota10:16
RonaldsMazitishello, anybody knows how to use LMMS with AKAI mpd218 drum pad?10:16
lapionokay then do: ls -la /tmp10:17
RonaldsMazitisI have problem assigning pads to correct samples10:17
Ben64I don't think it's a quota thing, it's a big file taking up all the space, either real or deleted but held open by a process10:17
cfhowlettqwebirc38681, possibly.  you should verify both the downloaded .iso and the usb you created.10:17
lapionJellyfishJon, and check of all files are owned by your vps username..10:17
cfhowlettRonaldsMazitis, #opensoucemusicians10:18
RonaldsMazitisit seems to understand which pad I press as it plays different note but I need it to assigned to just one note10:18
RonaldsMazitiscfhowlett: nobody on that channel10:18
cfhowlettyou might get lucky on #ubuntustudio10:18
JellyfishJonHey VictorJianfeiYeh --- do i have to put sudo infront of rm -rf /tmp/*10:19
JellyfishJonlapion - you want me to pastebin that output10:20
JellyfishJonlapion - of this "ls -la /tmp"10:20
JellyfishJonBen64 - Seems you lost hope. It's just not true "it's just how things turn out sometimes" --- it's always a series of events that gets you there10:20
JellyfishJonBen64 -- most of my childhood friends are dead, i'm early 30's ...if that gives you any context of the environment i came from. I just don't agree with your sentiment10:21
qwebirc79363I have a server at home ( ubuntu 18.04 ) there have two nicks ( have a connection in two networks ). How do I set wich nick there should be default route for it10:22
Ben64JellyfishJon: some things happen out of your control, i haven't given up hope, but the idea that if you work hard you will succeed is not a realistic one10:23
JellyfishJonlapion -- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fX5ffnymKj/10:23
JellyfishJonlapion -- that's output of command "ls -la /tmp" ran from root10:24
JellyfishJonBen64 -- what do you think is more realistic? You work hard and don't make progress, you can NOT work hard and make progress, or if you keep working hard you'll make progress10:24
JellyfishJonben64 --- i would say (if im being a presumptive jerk) is that you are not persisting in your struggle to advance10:25
JellyfishJonben64 - if i was being cynical, i would assume that you and I have a different definition of 'hard work'10:25
JellyfishJonben64 - still might not be true. i am just trying to motivate you. seems you have lost hope, that's all. I would encourage you to keep trying - fight for the light :)10:26
Ben64I think your view is skewed by your success10:26
JellyfishJonBen64 - How so? I work hard still.10:27
Ben64I didn't say you didn't10:27
jeremy31When did this turn into #ubuntu-offtopic10:27
JellyfishJonBen64 --- btw - being busy and tired all the time from doing things...is not the same as 'hard work' --- busy work is not hard, just time consuming10:27
JellyfishJonben64 -- i am hiring. if you have a resume and are in the IT space or have that skillset - I can talk with you and look at it.10:28
JellyfishJonben64 - I want to give others opportunities because I know it's hard sometimes and you get beat down by others. maybe you can help me with your skills and I can give you more income for that10:29
Ben64Well I might need work fairly soon hah10:29
JellyfishJonhey I will PM you and I can give you my email10:30
ddoobbwhat happened to #linux that it's invite only?10:42
Ben64it's ##linux10:42
ddoobbthanks ben6410:43
snadgeis there any way to get my desktop icons back, and make the window titles thinner?10:43
ryahi_skaprinavsnadge: Which ubuntu version are you using?10:45
ddoobbI'm a novice programmer and I want to start using a more serious IDE (currently using the text editor and terminal). Can you guys recommend a good IDE (ideally not language specific) and do basic debugging?10:45
snadgei upgraded from 18.10 to 19.0410:46
ryahi_skaprinavsnadge: Use gnome-tweaks then10:46
Blankspacehi i installed ngrok10:50
vltddoobb: I personally just use vim and a few plugins, but have heard great things about PyCharm.10:50
Blankspacei want to uninstall iy10:51
Blankspacehow can i do it.10:51
Blankspacei dont knw to use ubuntu10:51
ryahi_skaprinavBlankspace: Type "sudo apt-get remove ngrok" in the terminal10:53
legreffierddoobb: My co-workers are quite happy about vscode and pycharm. but they're python-focused.10:53
legreffierI can recommand atom, but it's not a full IDE10:54
Blankspaceit says unable to locate package10:54
Blankspacehow do i remove10:55
ddoobblegreffier can atom tell me the values of the variables during debugging10:56
legreffierBlankspace: how did you install it ?10:56
Blankspacei followed this https://dashboard.ngrok.com/get-started10:57
Blankspaceany help?10:59
legreffierddoobb: https://atom.io/packages/atom-ide-debugger-python with this package it should work11:00
legreffierBlankspace: just remove the folder and the zip file you downloaded11:01
Blankspacei am not able to locate it11:01
ddoobbthanks legreffier i'll take a look. In general am I likely to find such packages for other popular languages? I'm probably going to be using a lot of C, C++, R in the near future.11:02
legreffierBlankspace: can you still launch it ?11:10
Blankspaceall my files are accessible on the net11:11
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coffeeguy!ubotto install qt11:19
ubottucoffeeguy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:19
coffeeguy!ubotto qt11:20
coffeeguyhmm trying to install qt5 on ubuntu 19.04 with wget and it's saying not found 404, also did that for intsalling bluecherry  with wget , addy not found11:21
coffeeguyhehe maybe it's too early in the morning ;P11:23
coffeeguynm figured it out11:27
ubottuthe Qt toolkit (pronounced "cute"), which forms the base of !KDE, is a cross-platform C++ application framework for !CLI and !GUI applications. Install libqt4-dev and see !build to compile Qt4 applications, join #qt for development support11:28
amr00tam using remmina rdp/ssh client i want to use ssh identity file but when i browse to the folder it seems remmina can't access .ssh to add location/file to ird_sa11:30
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amr00tam using remmina rdp/ssh client i want to use ssh identity file but when i browse to the folder it seems remmina can't access .ssh to add location/file to ird_sa11:34
tomreynamr00t: when you run "ls -l ~/.ssh", do you files or directories owned by soemone other than your own user?11:36
amr00ttomreyn: no it is owned by me11:36
tomreynamr00t: do you run remmina as root / with sudo (you should not)?11:37
amr00ttomreyn:  ls -lia 37486964 drwxrwx--x  2 amroot amroot 4096 Apr 19 11:42 .ssh11:37
DVDAREafter leaving my ubuntu machine without iptable rules over night, now all my text is shown as braille11:38
DVDAREis there a comandline comand to fix?11:38
tomreynamr00t: that'S not what i asked you to run, why do you post it?11:38
amr00ttomreyn: i have even tried given permission to 777 still fails i think it is with .ssh11:38
amr00ttomreyn: sorry i'm just showing you the permission to be sure also i just lauch remmina from apps/dashboard11:39
tomreynamr00t: you can   chmod 700 .ssh11:40
tomreynamr00t: other users should have no access at all there11:40
tomreynnow what about the file in there?11:41
tomreyni usually do    chmod -R g-rwx,o-rwx ~/.ssh11:42
tomreynthat's a bit more strict than necessary, but usually works11:42
amr00ttomreyn: i still can't access the folder .ssh permission denied only when i access it through remmina browse11:42
tomreynamr00t: please answer the questions i asked before.11:43
tomreyn<tomreyn> amr00t: do you run remmina as root / with sudo (you should not)?11:44
amr00ttomreyn: i don't run it as root11:44
amcsihelp, I just upgraded from Ubuntu 18.10 to 19.04, and now there's a weird bug where if I open Activities, a popup saying a "System program problem detected" appears, but I can't click any of the buttons, and none of my open applications respond to mouse or keyboard events anymore :(11:44
tomreynamr00t: ok. can you run remmina from a terminal window and see if it outputs any additional warnings / errors *to this temrinal windows* when it reports the "can't access .ssh" error / warning as a graphical message?=11:46
tomreynamcsi: hmm, that's a bummer. did the upgrade seem to complete without errors?11:46
amr00ttomreyn: i run from terminal and no errors11:47
tomreynamcsi: can you post this, run in a terminal?   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)11:47
amcsitomreyn, no, it said some package like <iforgotwhat>-info was not successful11:47
amcsibut it looked minor to me11:47
tomreynamr00t: can you post a screenshot of the remmina window by the time you try to access ~/.ssh from it?11:48
tomreynamcsi: ok. so the upgrade failed somewhere in between or it reported success after reporting this message?11:49
tomreynlooks like the upgrade did succeed for the most part11:49
amcsiI don't remember, just that this was near the end of the installation in the gui11:49
tomreynamcsi: please also post this:  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog11:49
tomreynthis reports on the state of your apt repositories and package database.11:50
amcsitomreyn, okay, but I have to type it in by hand in Ctrl+Alt+F3, because I can't use anything in the GUI :/11:50
tomreynamcsi: sorry, we can shorten this.11:51
tomreynamcsi: sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999911:51
tomreynamcsi: apt-cache policy 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999911:52
tomreynamcsi: sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999911:52
amr00ttomreyn: https://imgur.com/a/dQNk9gV here is the img11:53
tomreynamcsi: and finally: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999911:53
amcsitomreyn, https://termbin.com/ztml11:54
tomreynamr00t: i noticed your first paste, thanks. sorry for making you type so much, but it'll help tremendously in getting a better picture of the state of your system.11:54
tomreyn2nd paste, too11:54
amcsiit's alright. I'm sure it helps.11:54
tomreynamr00t: looking11:55
amr00ttomreyn: okay11:55
tomreynwhich ubuntu version are you running?11:55
amcsi19.04 now11:56
tomreynwhat's the output of this now?  ls -ld .ssh/11:56
amr00ttomreyn: it is Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS.11:56
amcsidrwx------ ... attila attila ... .ssh11:56
tomreynamcsi: thanks, i was talking to amr00t there, though. i should have made this more obvious.11:57
amcsioh, I just thought you were mistyping my name :P people do that11:58
stevendaleUpTime21590 sec (0 days, 5 hours, 59 min, 50 sec)11:58
ioriaamcsi, why you have not run  'sudo apt autoremove --purge' yet ?11:58
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amr00ttomreyn: output is:  drwx------ 2 amroot amroot 4096 Apr 19 12:22 .ssh/11:59
amcsiioria, cause noone and nothing told me to do so11:59
tomreynioria: amcsi just upgraded to 19.04, and the upgrade didnt get to clean up due to an error.11:59
ioriaamcsi, apt told you that .... run again   sudo apt-full upgrade11:59
tomreynamr00t: thanks, i will try to reproduce this shortly.11:59
ioriaamcsi,    sudo apt full-upgrade12:00
amr00ttomreyn: thanks12:00
stevendaleioria It's sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:00
tomreynioria: please note that apt only told amcsi just now that i had her or him run these commands.12:00
Ido370just apt is enough :)12:01
stevendaleapt-get doesn't overcrowd it with fancy colors12:01
stevendaleand doesn't have a silly progress bar at the bottom12:01
Ido370i prefer the progress bar :)12:01
ioriaamcsi,    you see this line ? Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.12:01
amcsitomreyn, ioria: the dist-upgrade command says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded12:01
amcsiand exited12:02
amcsiioria, I have since you told me to12:02
stevendalesudo apt-get autoremove --purge12:02
amcsidid that12:02
ioriaamcsi,    now, run  sudo apt full-upgrade12:02
amcsiioria, I got the same result12:03
stevendaledid he do an apt update first ioria12:03
amcsino I haven't12:03
stevendaleamcsi: sudo apt-get update12:03
ioriaamcsi,   any other packages to remove ?12:03
amcsistevendale, I have just now, but even after that, I'm still getting the same result for dist-upgrade and full-upgrade12:03
amcsiit probably considers that I am already upgraded12:04
amcsiI already did the purge, ioria12:04
ioriaamcsi,   ok paste   ls -al /var/crash12:04
RonaldsMazitisanybody knows why I can't joint #lmms12:05
RonaldsMazitisI have logged in my irc account still can't12:05
amcsiioria, theres install-info.0.crash and nvidia-dkms-415.0.crash, both from recently12:05
ioriaamcsi,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia  | nc termbin.com 999912:06
RonaldsMazitisif anybody knows how to configure AKAI MPD218 on ubuntu join #ubuntustudio to help me12:06
ioriaamcsi,  just a tip; if you have nvidia drivers in use, and perform an upgrade would be better remove and reinstall them12:07
amcsiioria, https://termbin.com/81u112:07
deadmarshalhi, i want to capture sound from soundwire application but nothing is showing in recording tab of pulse audio control. what should i do? the audio is streaming and the bars go up and down.12:07
ioriaamcsi,  you see  415.27-0ubuntu0~gpu18.10.1   ?12:08
amcsiI'll try restarting now btw to see if my Ubuntu got fixed so far12:08
ioriaamcsi,  still for cosmic 18.1012:08
ioriaamcsi,  not 19.0412:08
amcsiioria, yeah12:08
amcsiwhat can I do about it?12:09
ioriaamcsi,  purge and reinstall12:09
amr00ttomreyn: i installed remmina from "Ubuntu Software" for some reason it installed two remmina one with "green and blue" icon the other with "blue and black"... i was using the green and blue one. But i removed it from ubuntu software and installed remmina from terminal using sudo apt-get install remmina it installed just the "blue and black" icon remmina and it works now12:09
amcsiBy the way, after logging in, I'm always greeted by an alert dialog saying "Are you sure you want to proceed?" with an OK button12:10
amcsimy cursor looking like an X12:10
ioriaamcsi,  usually the ppas are removed when you do-release-upgrade, so you need to renable again the ppa12:11
tomreynamr00t: ooh right, i hadn't thought of this. so one of them, probably the one which didn't work, is a "snap". this is a new alternative pacakging format to deb / apt.12:11
ioriaamcsi,  look at /etc/apt/sources.list.d12:11
amcsiioria, ok, but what do I do now that it didn't?12:11
RaqbitHi! Just upgraded to 19.04 and the dock is opaque now, which I've heard is the way it should be.  I'm having an issue though, where closing a maximized windows animates the dock to transparency and then back to opaque. I've tried fiddling with the ubuntu dash-to-dock but couldn't find a related setting. Does anyone else have this issue or know wher12:12
Raqbite I should look?12:12
ioriaamcsi,  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d12:12
tomreynamr00t: i installed remmina from apt and it does work here. if you want to proiimarily use deb/apt packages (the classic packages), you can install the synaptic application which let's you manage these grphically. or learn using the "apt" command on a temrinal.12:12
amcsiioria, https://termbin.com/k92x12:13
qwebirc74629Hey, quick question12:13
tomreynamr00t: so, glad you solved it - without my help ;-)12:13
qwebirc74629If I am booting from a flash drive, how long does it take for ubuntu to load12:13
ioriaamcsi,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa-cosmic.list12:14
qwebirc74629because I am not sure if it's stuck or it just takes a while12:14
amr00ttomreyn: i got back to ubuntu after years since mac messed me up 2days ago i left for good... so this "snap" has limitation so why was it introduced when apt-get does work?12:14
amcsiioria, https://termbin.com/hmam12:14
jilIs there a package repository with an updated version of LaTeX ?12:14
ioriaamcsi,  ok, this symbol '#' means that the ppa has been disabled .... but the drivers file are still installed ; so remove the symbole and use ppa-purge to remove the ppa12:16
amcsiioria, I don't know how to use ppa-purge12:16
ioria!info ppa-purge12:16
ubottuppa-purge (source: ppa-purge): disables a PPA and reverts to official packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.8+bzr63 (bionic), package size 6 kB, installed size 24 kB12:16
amcsiI should uncomment those lines though?12:16
BluesKajHi folks12:17
ioriaamcsi,  i don't remember exactly if   ppa-purge can work with a disabled ppa ; try  and if it fails re-enable the ppa12:18
amcsiioria, it says ppa-purge command not found12:18
tomreynamr00t: i could speculate on the reasoning but that's not the place to do so, we only do support here. there is #ubuntu-discuss and -offtopic also12:18
amcsiand besides, I don't know which ppa to disable12:18
ioriaamcsi,  sudo apt install ppa-purge12:18
tomreynamr00t: generally speaking, snap handles some situations apt / deb is less well suited for.12:19
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qwebirc74629  12:20
ioriaamcsi,  and  sudo ppa-purge ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa12:20
tomreynamr00t: snap lets you use newer software versions with less tight integration into the system, which can be a good thing (security, package dependencies) and a bad thing (usability, as you've seen).12:20
qwebirc74629What do I do if my ubuntu loading freezes? I am using a flash drive to boot12:20
qwebirc74629Should I select boot with safe graphics?12:21
amr00ttomreyn: okay, thanks for your help12:21
tomreynqwebirc74629: yes, give this a try.12:21
amcsiioria, ok, done12:21
tomreynamr00t: you're welcome.12:22
ioriaamcsi,   dpkg -l | grep nvidia  | nc termbin.com 999912:22
amcsiioria, by the way I have changed my graphics driver to the ubuntu one from nvidia since then, and then was able to purge most of the nvidia packages, but there are still some left. I'll show you the termbin.com link in a moment12:23
amcsiioria, https://termbin.com/izys12:23
c1fr4Hi everyone12:24
ioriaamcsi,  sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-390 libnvidia-compute-415 nvidia-compute-utils-415 nvidia-dkms-41512:24
tomreyn!ppa | jil12:25
ubottujil: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge12:25
tomreynthe search there might help12:25
ioriaamcsi,  after that, see if you still have a xorg.conf file  (locate xorg.conf)12:25
amcsiioria, that's only 4 of them, is that intentional?12:26
amcsioh nvm, the colon bit confused me. there's actually just 4 types12:26
amcsiioria, I still have the libnvidia-compute-390:i386 one left. I don't know why it's not removing it12:28
tomreynamcsi: when ioria and you are done, ping me again to help you wade through and maybe remove those "no longer downloadable" packages you have installed as per https://termbin.com/ztml12:28
tomreyn(but finish with the nvidia stuff first)12:28
ioriaamcsi,  sudo apt purge libnvidia-compute-390:i38612:28
tomreyndeadmarshal: i think the recording tab of pulse audio would only show something if you were currently recording something.12:29
amcsiioria, thanks, now there's nothing nvidia left12:29
ioriaamcsi,  after that, see if you still have a xorg.conf file  (locate xorg.conf)12:29
tomreyndeadmarshal: i.e. you'd need to run an application which can record the audio, and once it does, i think this would show there12:30
deadmarshaltomreyn: i want to hear the voice of the video that is playing by soundwire. what should i do? i output devices tab stereo has sound12:31
deadmarshalbut soundwire won't connect12:31
tomreyndeadmarshal: it's also possible that the wrong input device is set for recording12:31
deadmarshaltomreyn: what should i set it to?12:32
tomreyndeadmarshal: i don't know what soundwire is. is this an ubuntu application? which ubuntu version are oyu on?12:32
tomreyn!info soundwire12:32
ubottuPackage soundwire does not exist in bionic12:32
amcsiioria, yeah there are some. I'm working on getting it to you12:32
ioriaamcsi,  paste them12:32
deadmarshaltomreyn: soundwire is an app. http://georgielabs.net/12:32
deadmarshali'm on ubuntu 19.0412:33
amcsiioria, https://termbin.com/qsvt12:33
ioriaamcsi, no, it's ok : paste   ls /etc/modprobe.d12:34
tomreyndeadmarshal: does it work when you play back the video using a supported software?12:35
deadmarshaltomreyn: i haven't use any other software other than this. on earlier ubuntu versions it worked fine tough.12:37
ioriaamcsi,  ls /etc/modprobe.d  | nc termbin.com 999912:37
qualcunoi'm the creator of the universe12:38
amcsiioria, https://termbin.com/eqxo12:38
ioriaamcsi, ok, do you want nvidia again ?12:39
amcsiioria, yes please12:39
ioriaamcsi, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa12:39
amcsiby the way, I'll do a restart again to see if these things so far fixed my issues12:40
qwebirc21330Hello again12:41
ioriaamcsi, better to reinsall nviida, depending on your gpu you might be gretted by a black screen12:41
qwebirc21330Soo, I successfully booted to Ubuntu and I am trying to access files from my PC12:41
amcsiioria, too late, we'll see :D12:41
qwebirc21330Though I can only see my HD files and not M.2 SSD, does anyone know what's up12:41
amcsino black screen, but I'm still getting the same issues12:42
tomreyndeadmarshal: okay, try with totem12:42
tomreyndeadmarshal: or vlc12:42
ioriaamcsi, the issue about 'Activities' ?12:43
amcsiby the way, I wonder if just removing some local config files in my home directory would fix the things12:43
tomreyndeadmarshal: which application are you using to record the audio?12:43
deadmarshaltomreyn: i'm was trying with vlc before12:43
amcsilike removing the gnome extension I have for workspaces12:43
ioriaamcsi, ot the error pop-ups ?12:43
deadmarshaltomreyn: soundwire should capture audio and send it to my android phone12:43
ioriaamcsi,  to get rid of them you need to clean the /var/crash directory12:44
deadmarshaltomreyn: pulse audio control is also installed12:44
amcsiioria, yes, but mainly as soon as I open up Activities, I can't use the GUI anymore12:44
tomreyndeadmarshal: okay, seek support from the developer of this soundwire software.12:44
qwebirc21330anyone has any ideas?12:44
tomreyndeadmarshal: we don't support it here12:44
deadmarshaltomreyn: ok12:44
ioriaamcsi,  lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 999912:45
qwebirc21330soo does anyone have an idea haha12:45
qwebirc21330I will repeat though12:46
amcsiioria, any reason why you're suspecting this is caused by graphics? I have a feeling it does not have to do with it12:46
qwebirc21330I booted into Ubuntu and I am trying to access my files, when I go to "Other Locations" my HD is detected, but my SSD isn't, anyone knows whats up?12:46
tomreynqwebirc21330: so you have ubuntu installed on a HDD, and you also have an m.2 SSD, and both contain file systems with different data on them. is all of this correct?12:46
ioriaamcsi,  a step at a time12:46
tomreyn!patience | qwebirc2133012:47
ubottuqwebirc21330: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/12:47
qwebirc21330not exactly, I have Ubuntu running on a flash drive, i have HDD for storage and SSD which has a rogue Windows10 installed12:47
qwebirc21330yeah sorry, I am really new to all thi12:47
ioriaamcsi,  btw, yes extension no more supported can cuase some trobles12:47
amcsi_ioria, https://termbin.com/vylzx12:48
tomreynqwebirc21330: ok, that's fine. so you have windows installe don the SSD and you're trying to access the data there, right?12:48
qwebirc21330yeah! but I can't boot into it anymore, it boots extremelly slow out of no where12:49
ioriaamcsi,  cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste here)12:49
amcsiioria, how do I remove it tho? I don't know what the CLI command is to open the GUI with the gnome extensions12:49
tomreynqwebirc21330: the ssd with windows on it? this would be a ##windows issue, which we cannot help with here.12:49
amcsiI can't use Activities, because it makes my GUI unusable12:49
ioriaamcsi,  for extensions you use  gnome-tweaks12:50
tomreynqwebirc21330: but we can see if we can access the data from ubuntu12:50
ioriaamcsi,  cat /proc/cmdline   (you can paste here)12:50
qwebirc21330yeah, that would be great tomreyn12:50
tomreynqwebirc21330: are you familiar with working with a terminal?12:50
qwebirc21330I barely know how to handle very basic cmd on Windows, soo not really12:50
tomreynqwebirc21330: that's fine, i'll guide. please open a terminal window by pressing ctrl-alt-t.12:51
tomreynqwebirc21330: did this work?12:51
qwebirc21330got it!12:51
tomreynqwebirc21330: now type this and press enter:  lsblk | nc termbin.com 999912:51
tomreynqwebirc21330: make sure you have no typos there. you can also copy and paste it from the chat12:51
tomreynqwebirc21330: if things go ywell you'll receive a http address you can then post here12:52
qwebirc21330right, but I am doing this on two seperate PCs, not sure how I write | symbol12:52
qwebirc21330I could technically connect to this channel from that PC though12:53
tomreynqwebirc21330: yes, that'd be a good idea12:53
qwebirc79363ubottu: just to be curius do you know why some questions on askubuntu gets down voted even when there is no answers12:54
ubottuqwebirc79363: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:54
qwebirc21330I have IRC client on the PC that I am fixing, sorry for the inconvinience!12:54
grkblood13whenever I try to use apt its failing with pulling from ubuntu repos saying "Could not connect to". Any idea how to clear out whatever is causing this. sudo apt clean and sudo apt update dont seem to be helping.12:54
tomreynqwebirc21330: so switch to that and we can continue then12:54
qwebirc79363sorry were to tomreyn12:54
tomreynqwebirc79363: i wasn't talking to you there.12:55
ioriaamcsi, you can also list extension (locally) with  ls /home/$USER/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions12:55
amcsiioria, seems like I was able to fix the entire issue just by uninstalling the workspace grid gnome extension12:55
ioriaamcsi, ah, ok ... if you want nvidia again enable the ppa12:56
amcsialright, I'll do that12:56
ioriaamcsi, and tomreyn wanted to help you removinf some stuff , i guess12:56
tomreynqwebirc79363: there's a chat for askubuntu here: https://chat.stackexchange.com/?tab=site&host=askubuntu.com12:57
tomreynqwebirc79363: the people here don't run it, so we don't know hoiw it works exactly12:58
tomreyngrkblood13: this sounds like you have a local apt proxy configured.12:58
ioriaamcsi, and check  the Grid extension page...  the comments in particular : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/484/workspace-grid/12:58
Mystifiedhey guys what disk partitioning do i need to do to install ubuntu on bios gpt drive not mbr12:58
grkblood13tomreyn, how would I remove it?12:59
tomreyngrkblood13: the same way you put it there initially. it is probably configured somewhere in /etc/apt12:59
qwebirc44481Hello tomreyn! I switched to Ubuntu PC!12:59
amcsiioria, yeah, I just saw :(12:59
ioriaamcsi,  no 3.32 version13:00
grkblood13tomreyn, i looked in there. no mention of a local repo13:00
amcsithat's a big shame13:00
amcsidamn, I won't be able to have 2x2 grids anymore :(13:00
tomreynqwebirc44481: good. can you change your nickname to something unique first of all? just think of a unique nickname and type:   /nick MyNewUniqueNickname13:00
tomreynqwebirc44481: don't make it that long though13:01
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amcsiioria, thanks for all your help!13:01
ioriaamcsi,  no problem13:01
tomreyngrkblood13: local proxy server, not local repositoriy.13:01
Catzzyedone and done!13:01
ioriatomreyn, we are done here13:01
tomreynCatzzye: very well, now run the command i suggested earlier:  lsblk | nc termbin.com 999913:02
tomreynioria: thanks.13:02
tomreynamcsi: so you probably still have some packages to clean up. if you like to look into this, post the output of this again, please:  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported | nc termbin.com 999913:03
Catzzyeokay, I got a link tomreyn13:03
tomreynCatzzye: okay, post it here13:03
qwebirc79363tomreyn: True but you cant chat there and also unfortunally that does also not help with my issue on ubuntu13:03
tomreynqwebirc79363: you could also ask your ubuntu question here.13:04
tomreynqwebirc79363: personally i can't help right now, though13:04
amcsitomreyn, https://termbin.com/vwuo13:04
amcsiyeah, just a couple of stuff xD13:05
qwebirc79363tomreyn: well I have tried to ask it two times13:05
tomreynCatzzye: so indeed ubuntu only sees two storages. sdb, which is probably the usb stick / flash media you booted off, and sda, which contains the files you see under /media/ubuntu/Media and /media/ubuntu/Data. but you expected to see more than that?13:06
tomreyn!patience | qwebirc7936313:06
ubottuqwebirc79363: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/13:06
Catzzyetomreyn: Yeah, there is supposed to be a M.2 SSD which has WIndows 10 installed on it, so maybe thats why its not showing, not really sure13:07
ChunkzZ!patience | tomreyn13:07
ubottutomreyn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/13:07
tomreynamcsi: a lot really13:07
tomreynChunkzZ: ?13:07
ChunkzZtomreyn, it's annoying am I right....13:08
amcsido I need to remove these?13:08
tomreynChunkzZ: if you would like to discuss, as you have been told before, the place to do so is in #ubuntu-offtopic or -discuss (if its about ubuntu)13:08
JimBuntuqwebirc79363, questions get downvoted commonly because answers are too easily searched for, enough detail isn't given in the question or also if they simply don't make sense as a question. That's not really a question for this channel though, as far as I think.13:09
tomreynamcsi: yes, you should probably either remove all of them or make sure you have a repository confdigured which provides these, so that you can get updates.13:09
qwebirc79363well the answer is not easily searched because netplan refuses to fix it and have not found any way around it in 18.0413:10
tomreynamcsi: those packages listed under "No longer downloadable" are versions which were provided, by third parties, for your previous ubuntu version. they are probably not compatible to your current ubuntu release.13:10
BluesKajChunkzZ, annoying for you maybe, but totally necessary for the supporters, who by the way are volunteers13:10
ChunkzZqwebirc79363, what's your issue?13:10
qwebirc79363ChunkzZ: someone calls it multi home ( where there is nedded that one specific connection is the gateway ). and the examples about dhcp4-overrides in netplan on 10.04 LTS does not work13:12
tomreynCatzzye: hmm, the ssd should still have shown. for somereason it seems that ubuntu did not detect it. maybe you have it set to a special mode in your mainboard firmware, which only works with windows.13:12
amcsitomreyn, I'll probably worry about them when they turn out not to work, or if I need to upgrade them13:12
Catzzyetomreyn: Thats worrysome, could it be broken? I still have no idea if it is, Ive hard time trying to diagnose it13:13
tomreynCatzzye: if you like, you can post your system journal and i can take a look later (will take me a while, maybe an hour), to get a better idea why the ssd is not available. to do so, you'd run this command:  journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999913:13
BluesKaj!eol | 10.04 qwebirc7936313:14
ubottu10.04 qwebirc79363: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:14
Catzzyetomreyn: of course, thank you so much13:14
tomreynamcsi: the point is that you'll not get upgrades for these, and they can actually prevent other packages from upgrading, and from installing properly.13:14
qwebirc79363BluesKaj: I'm on 18.04 not 10.0413:15
amcsithanks tomreyn, I'll keep that in mind13:15
BluesKajqwebirc79363, quote " netplan on 10.04 LTS does not work"13:15
qwebirc79363my bad that was a typo on my laptop13:15
tomreynamcsi: so by keeping those, you basically choose to run outdated software which never gets any (security) updates and which can easily break other software you have installed or need ot install.13:15
tomreynamcsi: your choice, of course. ;-) it's not recommended or supported here, though, so you'll need to fix this up before getting support here again.13:16
amcsialright, got it!13:17
tomreynCatzzye: looks like i may have time right now13:17
CatzzyeHey tomreyn, I sent you in the query, so it doesnt get lost in text and you can find it more easily later! thanks agaiN !13:17
tomreynCatzzye: thanks. but i discard personal messages by default. i just whitelisted you, though, so you can send it again.13:18
tomreyn!pm | Catzzye13:18
ubottuCatzzye: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.13:18
qwebirc79363The pc is connected to two networks ( Its actually my ubuntu server 18.04 LTS ) My network and my neighbors network because we play minecraft together and share plex. But the server needs to use my network as default gateway.13:18
tomreynCatzzye: what ubottu  just told you is our general recomendation.13:18
qwebirc79363And static ip is not posible because the neighbor has a isp router where you cant change lease or set static ips up in13:18
Catzzyeyeah, makes sense13:19
tomreynCatzzye: okay, let me know *here* when you post it here or when you posted it in private.13:19
CatzzyeI sent you in PM but I can send you here too13:20
JimBuntutomreyn, ^^13:20
tomreynCatzzye: hmm that private message didn't arrive, sorry13:21
qwebirc79363I would have used dhcp4-overrides in netplan to force a higher route metric to the the interface there goes into them exept that it gives error in netplan and I have found out that that have been a bug for almost a year and the auther has turned down a persons commit to fix it in 18.0413:21
tomreynCatzzye: got it now.13:22
tomreynJimBuntu: thanks13:22
JimBuntutomreyn, You're welcome, of course.13:22
deadmarshalhow can i install libavahi1.0-cil ?13:24
leftyfbdeadmarshal: what version of ubuntu and why do you think you need it?13:25
tomreynCatzzye: i'll be back to you in ~ 10 minutes. in the meantime, have a look at this newer mainboard firmware which is available for your computer, and the revision history available there: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/omen-by-hp-15-ce000-laptop-pc/15551437/swItemId/ob-221294-1  your current version is F.07 08/11/201713:25
deadmarshalleftyfb: it a dependecy for another app. ubuntu v 19.0413:26
leftyfbdeadmarshal: which app?13:26
deadmarshalleftyfb: airfoilspeaker13:26
noalternativeA couple of weeks ago I installed Ubuntu Budgie and was referred here because I had a problem with an erratic cursor when I used touchpad.  You're community helped me install something for synaptic and than adjust the noise level and that made it work better..13:29
Catzzyethanks a lot!13:30
noalternativeanyway I had to reinstall because of a program that messed things up and I need help again.13:30
noalternativesince I don't remember what all was done.13:31
noalternativeMy computer is an x140e w/amd processor and graphics.13:31
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pragmaticenigmaHello timl13213:33
leftyfbnoalternative: xserver-xorg-input-libinput13:34
timl132I have a question On my new laptop, lshw reports my wifi adapters(i have 2) as DISABLED. I tried unplugging one, no effect. USB Ethernet works fine. Settings app says it's there, but fails to enable it when I click the enable switch. ANyone know what's up with that?13:34
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stveae boiolasso13:36
leftyfbstv: can we help you with something?13:36
stvjust trying to found ricing channels13:37
leftyfbdeadmarshal: try installing libavahi-client-dev or libavahi-common-dev if you're compiling something.  libavahi-common3 if not13:37
pragmaticenigmatiml132: We're going to need more details please. Version of Ubuntu, what the names and models of the network adapters, if you could paste the output of lshw to paste.ubuntu.com and share the link here, it would be most helpful13:39
leftyfbdeadmarshal: libavahi1.0-cil is not a package or a filename available in Ubuntu13:39
leftyfbdeadmarshal: for further assistance, you'll need to seek support from the developers of airfoilspeaker13:39
noalternativeleftyfb https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tW2Jmf62fX/    It didn't work.13:40
noalternativetells me I have broken packages13:40
leftyfbnoalternative: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/6XPHPnDYmY/13:41
Brainiackhey when i do uname -r to show kernal info i get a -generic at the end13:42
Brainiackam i missing a driver13:42
leftyfbBrainiack: "kernel"13:42
timl132pragmaticenigma Ubuntu 19.04, RTL8822BE, lshw is harder to get, no internet13:42
leftyfbBrainiack: and no, -generic is correct. Everything is fine13:42
noalternativethank you for that I'll look at it.13:43
pragmaticenigmatiml132: I thought you said USB ethernet was working?13:43
timl132pragmaticenigma USB Wired internet works, USB wifi internet doesn't13:44
pragmaticenigmatiml132: Then I do not understand why you cannot post the output of lshw13:44
tomreynCatzzye: so i'm done reviewing your log. the SSD is actually an NVMe (or considered such by Linux). it is detected but fails to get initialized properly due to timeouts. you can see this when searching your log for "timeout". the "Call trace" block below this is a "kernel oops", which means the linux kernel has run into a problem which doesn't stop it from running, but which can mean that not all of the system hardware may operate properly.13:45
timl132pragmaticenigma: gimme a sec, i'll grab a cable13:45
tomreynCatzzye: what also sticks out is that there are a lot of ACPI errors on your system. These *may* be the underlying issue if only Linux fails to access the NVMe. But from what I understand you're saying Windows is also failing to boot off it now.13:46
Brainiackdoes anyone know if i do lsmod -r and uload a module from the "kernel" if i restart the module will be reloaded or not?13:47
Brainiackulouad = unload13:47
compdocnvme drives usually require 4 pci-e lanes, which means that some sata ports should not be used if theres an nvme card installed13:47
timl132pragmaticenigma: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C9gr54tgrH/13:48
Catzzyetomreyn: thank you for your insight!13:49
timl132I copied it to my phone13:49
leftyfbpragmaticenigma: lshw is not installed by default13:49
Catzzyesoo, what this tells us, that something might have happened to the SSD13:49
timl132leftyfb: it is on ubuntu13:49
CatzzyeI can open the PC up and check it out13:49
tomreynCatzzye: about those ACPI errors, a mainboard firmware upgrade is likely (but not certain) to help there.  but this would again require a woprking windows installation since *I think* (you may want to verify this with their support) HP only supports firmware upgrades from a running Windows (not DOS, not Linux, not UEFI).13:50
tomreynCatzzye: if you have another computer oyu can attach the storage to, this could help getting it to be read again.13:52
CatzzyeI have a friend coming over13:53
Catzzyethat has similar specs than as me13:53
timl132pragmaticenigma: found anything weird in lshw?13:53
CatzzyeI am not sure if he has M.2 slot13:53
CatzzyeI Might be able to try that13:53
tomreynCatzzye: you primarily find those on desktop computers form the past 4 years, but some newer laptops also have those.13:54
tomreynCatzzye: there are m.2 to usb adapters available online, but this is not ideal for trouble shooting.13:55
Catzzyeits interesting how this happened after I was traveling, my main concern is what if it got damaged during the transport13:55
Catzzyebut M.2 isnt a HD it should be that voulnarble13:55
tomreynCatzzye: normally, such storage should not degrade as a result of impact, since there are no moving parts. it could be that the connector has loosened, though.13:56
Catzzyeyeah, also13:57
Catzzyethis is a bit funny, when I plugged the M.2 in13:57
Catzzyeit was connected in a way that it went up in the air13:57
Catzzyesince there was a bump on the motherboard13:57
tomreynCatzzye: by the way, i sent you a summary of the log lines i found to be relevant as a private message.13:57
tomreynCatzzye: so this computer didn't have the m.2 NVMe factory installed?13:58
JosseI'm considering switching from Windows to Ubuntu, but what advantages and disadvantes will Ubuntu give me over windows?13:59
leftyfb!ot | Josse13:59
ubottuJosse: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:59
compdocI use windows to run a few programs that arent availalbe for linux13:59
compdocbut linux works for most things14:00
Catzzyeit is from the factory, its just a bit weird, its a slight bump but it makes the M.2 go up hahaha14:00
Catzzyethank you for the summary!14:01
tomreynCatzzye: i see. you're welcome.14:01
tomreynJosse: your question is surely relevant for switching to Ubuntu, it's just that we do only do technical support for when you already have it installe don this very channel. but you're welcome to ask this and related questions on one of the other channels ubottu listed.14:02
JosseI did tomreyn , thank you!14:03
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deadmarshalleftyfb: thanks14:05
Catzzyetomreyn: I will try to open it up and reinsert it14:06
Catzzyedo you want me to keep you updated_14:06
Brainiackdoes anyone know if i do lsmod -r and uload a module from the "kernel" if i restart the module will be reloaded or not?14:07
naccBrainiack: depends on the module and how it was loaded int he first place14:07
naccBrainiack: `lsmod -r` is also not a thing, afaik14:07
naccBrainiack: but if it's loaded already in your prior boot, unloading it at runtime has no effect on the next boot14:07
tomreynCatzzye: i'll actually take a break now and be back later, but would approaciate an update in case you'll get it to work, and how. if you have more questions, feel free to ask here on the channel, summing up the situation shortly, so others can also help.14:08
ubuntu-issuesHello, have there been any reports of being unable to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (
Brainiacklsmod -r nameofmodule unloads it14:08
Brainiacktry it14:09
ubuntu-issuesI am trying to download sqlite3 via apt, but, it keeps failing.14:09
Catzzyetomreyn: alright, thanks!14:09
leftyfbubuntu-issues: please pastebin what you are running and it's output14:09
pragmaticenigmatiml132: I'm sorry that I had to step away... I'm not sure how to get that up and running14:10
ubuntu-issuesleftyfb, https://pastebin.com/wQPWjtmy14:10
ubuntu-issuesRunning Ubuntu 18.04 LTS14:10
timl132pragmaticenigma: Okay, I'll ask reddit14:10
leftyfbubuntu-issues: no issues on this end. Maybe a problem with your ISP at the moment? Try a different mirror temporarily?14:11
pragmaticenigmatiml132: don't be discouraged, you chances of getting a fix for your issue are better here14:11
timl132pragmaticenigma: Okay, I'll ask other people14:11
ubuntu-issuesWhat is the easiest way to specify a different mirror when running apt install or apt update?14:12
naccubuntu-issues: modify your sources.list14:12
leftyfbubuntu-issues: open the "Software and Updates' util14:12
naccubuntu-issues: but you don't specify a mirror to apt install, only to apt update14:12
timl132Everyone: My wifi adapters are all marked as DISABLED and can't be enabled from the ubuntu settings app, anyone know what to do about that? My wifi adapter is a RTL8822Be and the other one is a USB one. Wired(not wifi) Ethernet USB adapters work fine14:13
KurlonMorning all, I'm looking to see if there is any easy way to merge security updates to wpa-2.6 with my custom version of the package, or if I need to roll those new patches in manually?14:14
leftyfbKurlon: roll them in manually and upload to your own PPA14:15
ubuntu-issuesYeah, I was hoping there was an easier "on the fly" method for editing the sources.list file.14:15
ubuntu-issuesrunning apt update*14:15
KurlonBugger, was hoping there was a nice merge tool, ok manual update it is.  Thank you leftyfb.14:16
timl132pragmaticenigma: and others. I do some more googling and it turns out it might be disabled by ideapad_laptop thing. ANyone know more about that?14:16
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pragmaticenigmatiml132: That would mean in the system bios (on boot) there is a setting to turn it on or off, or there could a physical switch, or a Fn + F# keyboard shortcut to turn the wifi adapter on and off14:17
Catzzyetomreyn: Not sure if you left for brake now, but it wasn't flying up in the air, I forgot that you can screw it in14:17
Catzzyebut when you insert it without a screw, it's in the air14:17
Catzzyethere was some dust, but not too much, I am gonna clean the whole thing and than reinsert it, will let you know how it goes14:18
CatzzyeM.2 itself looks just fine, I bought it a few months ago14:18
timl132pragmaticenigma: I tried all keys, it isn't hardware disabled. I checked in bios and it's enabled. It also works fine in windows. Internet says I shoudl blacklist the module or somehign but I don't know how it works.14:18
ubuntu-issuesFun, apparently the IPS I have is preventing apt from being able to connect. :/14:20
ubuntu-issuesAlright, thanks everyone.14:22
pragmaticenigmatiml132: There are helpers here that are better skilled at that task. Right now they appear to be helping others or have stepped away momentarily.14:22
timl132pragmaticenigma: oKAY, i'LL WAIT FOR A BIT14:23
timl132sry for caps14:23
parclytaxelSo, how's 19.04?14:34
elteseHi. I wanted to (i get i will get a fairly biased version here) ask if there is any merit to the perception that Ubuntu has severly outdated packages? Or is it just that the snapshots are a bit older and you can easily get newer versions through the PPA?14:35
benharriime ubuntu generally has up-to-date packages14:36
parclytaxelAnd a (quite important) question: if you upgraded to 19.04 from a previous version, did you get a fatal error at the end of the upgrading process? Is it affecting you in any substantial way?14:36
parclytaxelIf it did affect you substantially, what steps did you take to resolve the problems?14:37
benharrii didn't get any fatal errors updating yesterday14:37
benharrihad to re-run ubuntu-drivers autoinstall but that was it14:37
eltesebenharri: allright, thanks. Just a thing you come across the various forums a lot.14:37
parclytaxelbenharri: I mean, bug 182300414:37
ubottubug 1823004 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 19.04 - cannot install 'install-info'" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182300414:37
parclytaxelI got this bug14:38
benharrioh interesting i hadn't heard of that one14:38
benharrieltese: just make sure you're not on a super-old version of ubuntu14:38
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eltesebenharri: no, if I install, it would be 19.0414:38
parclytaxelYet 19.04 looks and feels fine so far. I'm not sure if there's a deeper problem14:39
benharriif you're on an old LTS release, the packages will be very stale14:39
nacceltese: and you understand installing that will require you to upgrade in 6-9 months, right14:40
eltese Yes14:40
nacceltese: in my experience, that perspective (stale packages) is based wholly on a misapprehension of what a distribution is14:40
parclytaxelBasically the bug I just described is that "triggers looping, terminated" appears for some package at the very end of the distribution upgrade, and the upgrade says it failed, but 19.04 still works fine even after reboot14:42
OerHeksparclytaxel, looks like you are the only one, try to reinstall install-info perhaps?14:42
leftyfb19.04 will be "super old" in 9 months from now14:42
leftyfbas in, not supported14:42
parclytaxelOerHeks: did you see the bug I linked above?14:42
leftyfbI say stick with LTS and be supported with 5 years14:42
parclytaxelMany people have been affected by the bug14:43
OerHeksparclytaxel, yes, and only you are affected i read14:43
eltesenacc: Okay. I've played around a bit in a VM with both Ubuntu and ARch. Honestly , haven't encountered that many differences , even though I must admit I prefer pacman over apt. But what I am a bit hesitant about is that it takes me quite a while installing Arch (since I need to read a lot) and if the system  breaks that will become tedious fast I think14:43
parclytaxelI didn't file the linked bug14:43
elteseAnd I've never really noticed the package difference myself. Just something I hear from people fond of arch distros14:44
elteseSo figured I might as well ask here also. Get both sides of the story ;)14:44
parclytaxelOerHeks: look at the launchpad, "this bug affects 8 people"!14:44
OerHeksparclytaxel, try to reinstall install-info perhaps?14:44
parclytaxelJust did that14:45
OerHeksthat bug was reported 2019-04-03, before release, in beta stage.14:45
nacceltese: arch is a very different distribution in that regard. I would suggest folks that say that are referring to AUR not Arch itself, but that's a different question. You probably want #ubuntu-discuss as well, as this seems less like a support topic14:46
parclytaxelSince cleanup was not performed after the failed upgrade, I just autoremoved the no longer needed packages - and a few others I had downloaded for university work and didn't need anymore14:46
eltesenacc: Yes, you are totally right. That was me not even considering such a channel would exist. Thanks for the answers though =)14:47
parclytaxelThe only lasting bugs I see on my instance of 19.04 are that the previews of windows from the left dashboard are not really displayed properly (they're hugging the left side, not centred)14:47
parclytaxelAnd Firefox's rendering of some fonts has changed (I'm very particular about appearance)14:48
parclytaxelSo, OerHeks, do you think I am all good?14:48
parclytaxelThe two incidents I described may not even be "bugs" stricto sensu14:50
OerHeksparclytaxel, it seems you have taken the proper steps to finish the install, so yes, it is oke.14:50
parclytaxelRight then14:50
OerHeksnot sure about firefox rendering, i removed that browser14:51
parclytaxelStill looks good enough - it's only one font whose rendering changed particularly, Nimbus Sans14:51
parclytaxelAll the other fonts and everything else is exactly the same14:51
parclytaxelI'm cool with it14:52
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* parclytaxel loves drawing ponies14:54
bobomahello. i have a problem with ubuntu 19.04. I used to allow other users to access the mains users display by setting xhost15:00
bobomathis does not seem to work any longer15:00
bobomadid something change in that regard?15:01
bobomafor example i used to set: xhost si:localuser:abc15:03
bobomabut user abc cannot access main users display any longer. how to get that functionality back?15:03
KurlonManually rolling in the patches wasn't as much of a pain as I anticipated, that's nice.15:07
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grubissuegday friendly ppl15:26
grubissueI have an upgrade issue to report15:26
grubissueand would like to inquire for some help/pointers15:26
grubissueI performed an upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04 and all went well, except for an error installing grub-efi-amd64-signed15:27
pragmaticenigmagrubissue: Please free to ask your question without asking to ask. Try to keep everything on a single line to make it easier to keep everything together and easier to read for others. Include any technical details, and if necsarry paste logs and/or multiline text to paste.ubuntu.com please.15:28
tomreyngrubissue: hi there. can you provide the error message?15:28
grubissuemkay, can I paste 3 or 4 lines of error output?15:28
tomreynanything above two lines on a pastebin please15:29
grubissueCould not prepare Boot variable: Invalid argument grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error.15:29
grubissuethats 2 lines into one15:29
tomreynwas there more context around this, like what it had done before or after it?15:30
grubissueitś basically a straight 18.10 install without system tweaks that I just upgraded automatically15:30
grubissueI tried to scroll back in the terminal thingy of the upgrade app, but the buffer ran oyut15:31
grubissueI retried dpkg --configure -a and it gives the same error15:31
tomreynlet's see the full output of this command then15:31
grubissueIḿ a long time debian and ubuntu user, just not much up to speed about uefi15:32
tomreynalso this:  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog15:32
tomreynokay, that's good to now.15:32
bobomaany idea how to fix that?15:33
tomreyngrubissue: also:  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999915:33
grubissuedone both, how do I get to see the output at termbin.com?15:34
pragmaticenigmaboboma: I'm not familiar with that sort of setup. It's not something I've heared before. Maybe you need to use a different approach, such as sharing the primary user account's desktop via VNC?15:34
tomreyngrubissue: you access the url it returned15:35
tomreynusing a web browser15:35
grubissueno output in the terminal from either cmd15:35
tomreynboboma: you're not using xwayland now by chance?15:35
bobomano, xserver15:35
bobomaand it used to work until 19.0415:35
tomreyngrubissue: hmm that's strange. are you able to run those commands individually and show their output?15:36
bobomaits that you want to share your xsession with other users. E.g.15:36
bobomaif you login as main user and then open a terminal and log in as a different user15:36
grubissuetomreyn Iḿ already in a root shell (sudo -s)15:36
grubissuewhen I paste the commands, it gives no output on the stdout15:36
tomreyngrubissue: try running it as a normal, restricted user.15:37
tomreyngrubissue: being a long time user, you'll know that's the preferred approach around ubuntu15:38
grubissuewell, being a long time user, I sot of have my own routines15:39
grubissuedoing linux since 94 actually15:39
grubissueah right, now I get stdout https://termbin.com/abtr15:40
tomreyngrubissue: that's fine. so please run these commands in a way that you can capture their output and make it available - can you do this?15:40
tomreynoh ok15:40
tomreyngrubissue: also, as a reminder, we need: dpkg --configure -a15:41
grubissuecuriously, thesecond one still gives no stdout15:41
grubissuewill do, just a moment15:41
grubissuetomreyn output of dpkg --configure -a  = = https://termbin.com/orhb15:43
grubissueuh oh maybe try that again with LANG=C15:43
tomreyngrubissue: that'd be kind, thanks15:43
tomreyngrubissue: if this is an ubuntu issue, you could subscribe to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/180179715:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1801797 in grub-installer (Ubuntu) "efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error." [Undecided,New]15:45
tomreyn(or add to it)15:46
grubissuetomreyn that doesn look very helpful tho15:47
tomreyngrubissue: can you show  lsblk 2>&1; efibootmgr --verbose 2>&115:47
grubissueitś about 18.0415:47
grubissuewhuile I installed 18.10 with no problems15:47
grubissuethe 19.04 upgrade is the problem15:47
tomreynwere you uefi booting before you installed ubuntu?15:48
tomreynor when, rather15:48
grubissuei dunno, as I said, basic 18.10 install without any tweaks15:48
grubissuejust using defaults15:49
grubissuemachine is oldish15:49
tomreynthe issue herer seems to be that an ubuntu system which was initially installed in a bios boot environment was later changed (but not entirely) into a uefi booting system15:49
grubissuea thin client dual core amd something that I added mem and a m.2 ssd to15:49
tomreyncausing this upgrade error.15:49
tomreyni'll wait for the above output then.15:50
wonderworlduefi is terrible. it should at least support full transparent backward compability15:50
grubissuetomreyn iĺl have to figure out how to get that to termbin.com15:50
lotuspsychje!discuss | wonderworld15:51
ubottuwonderworld: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!15:51
tomreynwonderworld: commentary an opinion is welcome outside of this channel.15:51
wonderworldi see, sorry15:51
tomreyngrubissue: pipe each command into    nc termbin.com 999915:51
grubissuetomreyn: it doesn't seem to give me the url back on stdout15:52
tomreyngrubissue: which shell are you using there?15:52
pragmaticenigmaboboma: I have a feeling that you will have to review xhost documentation. There could be some changes in how xhost works going forward.15:53
grubissuebash i guess15:53
tomreynit usually just works, so your system is special.15:53
tomreyndo you have "pastebinit" installed?15:53
bobomaunfortunately there are no changes in the xhost docs15:54
grubissueecho just testing  | nc termbin.com 999915:54
bobomain that regard15:54
grubissuethat gives me an url15:54
bobomacould be a bug.15:54
grubissueubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported  | nc termbin.com 999915:54
bobomaIt's kind of annoying that with every new release some things that used to work break15:54
tomreyngrubissue: that's not a command i asked you to run though15:54
grubissueit does give copious output without netcat15:55
grubissuetomreyn earlier you did tho15:55
tomreyn<tomreyn> grubissue: also:  ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999915:55
tomreyncompare to what you ran15:55
OerHeksthat 1st ubuntu-support-status line should work, it does here15:56
grubissue(lsblk 2>&1; efibootmgr --verbose 2>&1) | nc termbin.com 999915:56
grubissueubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999915:56
grubissue&lots without the nc pipe15:57
OerHeksboth work..15:57
tomreyngrubissue: try with LANG=C or, if you have, LANG=en_US.UTF-815:58
OerHekswell, you need to wait 30 seconds or so15:58
grubissueoerheks dunno why but it doesnt on my box15:58
tomreyngrubissue: if it still doesn't work, redirect to a file and post the file afterwards.15:58
grubissuetomreyn I already export LANG=C15:59
tomreyngrubissue: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported &>/tmp/uss; wc -l /tmp/uss; cat /tmp/uss | nc termbin.com 999916:00
pragmaticenigmaboboma: rarely do things break between releases... when I've seen something "break" it is usually because the method I used to make it work wasn't the right way to begin with, and someone patched a vulnerability to closed the loophole16:00
tomreyngrubissue: thanks. now:  cat /proc/mounts  | grep -i efi16:01
tomreyngrubissue: as OerHeks hinted correctly, the issue with posting ubuntu-support-status was that the command runs too long and termbin.com closed the tcp connection in the meantime16:02
grubissueefivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars efivarfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime 0 0 /dev/sda1 /boot/efi vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 016:02
grubissuetomreyn: guess so, as i wrote it is an oldish machine16:03
jojeroHi! I have problem after using dd I can't open my usb?16:05
jojerodd: failed to open '/dev/sdb': No such device or address16:05
jojeroCan anyone help me I just bought this usb thumb drive just this week.16:05
tomreyngrubissue: hmm, these mounts look fine. so the dpkg --configure -a suggests that there is an issue with writing to your nvram where the efi variables are stored. is this somehow write protected on your system? it usually is not.16:06
timl132I need to edit a linux file to add support for my own platform(ideapad_laptop), ideapad_laptop is also the module name. Is there a way to download that part of the Linux source and compile only the ideapad_laptop part and load that into Ubuntu so it doesn't take years to compile? Thx16:06
grubissuejojero whatdoes dmesg |grep "dev/sd" say?16:06
grubissuetomreyn I have no ides, as I said, no problems when installing 18.1016:07
grubissueand i certainly did not tweak any of it16:07
tomreyngrubissue: but was 18.10 uefi booting as well?16:07
grubissuetomreyn I dunno16:07
grubissuejust using defaults16:07
grubissueof the 18.10 install16:08
tomreyngrubissue: well, maybe your nvram broke in the meantime. this happens.16:08
grubissuecosmic particles16:08
grubissuemaybe the plasma cutter that I was using outside while the upgrade ran lol16:08
tomreyn!info grub-efi-amd64-signed disco16:10
ubottuPackage grub-efi-amd64-signed does not exist in disco16:10
grubissuetomreyn thanks for the effort, I guess I am going to reboot anyway and use a rescue or boot-repair thingy if it won boot anymore16:10
tomreynit was false information https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/grub-efi-amd64-signed16:11
grubissueSetting up grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.115+2.02+dfsg1-12ubuntu2) ...16:11
tomreyngrubissue: can you post   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)16:13
grubissuegrub2-signed (1.115) disco; urgency=medium16:15
grubissue  * Rebuild against grub2 2.02+dfsg1-12ubuntu2.16:15
tomreyngrubissue: thanks. well, looks as if you may have found a new bug, not sure. it woud be good if we could work out why and how grub-install fails. but if you need to work around it, that's ok, of course.16:15
grubissue -- Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre <cyphermox@ubuntu.com>  Fri, 08 Mar 2019 15:52:22 -050016:15
grubissuetomreyn yeah thats why I came here, to report the bug16:16
tomreyngrubissue: to report bugs, use ubuntu-bug16:16
grubissuebefore kludging around it with a rescue boot disk16:16
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.16:16
grubissuecan i do that without committing my email adres to the web or signing in to sites?  i dont like that16:17
grubissuei get zero spam nowadays16:17
grubissuecuz im extremely reticent about putting in my mail adress16:17
tomreyngrubissue: you would need to have an Ubuntu SSO account to post to Launchpad16:18
tomreynit would guide you through creating one16:19
grubissuetomreyn I ll think about it for a while16:19
tomreyni'm not going to report bugs for others, the oriignal reporter is expected to be affected by a bug.16:19
grubissuenot in a hurry to reboot16:19
tomreynokay i'll see how we can get more info16:20
f00b4rhello, how to use drag & drop in nautilus with ubuntu 19.04 ?16:20
grubissuetomreyn: used to be a debian developer, i read all of debian-usr, debian-devel AND debian-bugs-dist daily16:22
grubissuethen I got tired of it and wanted no more of it16:22
grubissueso i stopped doing that thing altogether radically16:22
grubissuewill consider registereing with launchpad for this issue16:23
grubissuehave to think abot it a bit16:23
f00b4ri use that -> https://itsfoss.com/fix-drag-drop-ubuntu/ and doesn't work16:23
tomreyngrubissue: if oyu're happy to experiment more, try this and then run ls against it to see f it was created:   touch foo /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/16:25
tomreyn(it should not be created this way, but also niot report an error)16:26
grubissuetomreyn just checking, do you want me to touch a dir AND create foo ni the CWD?16:27
tomreyngrubissue: doh sorry, touch /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/foo16:27
grubissuetouch: setting times of '/sys/firmware/efi/efivars/foo': Invalid argument16:28
tomreynokay that's actually expected16:28
grubissueno file created16:28
tomreyncan i see:  mokutil --sb-state16:29
grubissueSecureBoot disabled16:29
tomreynoh, hmm, maybe that's already why it fails.16:30
grubissuei dont remember the details of the install, but if given a choice, i probably would have disabled that16:31
tomreyngrubissue: can you    apt purge grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed16:31
tomreyngrubissue: you may actually need to do this with dpkg, package by package, since those packages are half-installed16:32
grubissuedone, now reinstall?16:32
grubissueno went fine with apt16:32
tomreynno, you want the non secureboot ones16:32
tomreynactually i'm wrong16:33
tomreynyou do need grub-efi-amd64-signed16:33
tomreynalso grub-efi-amd64-bin16:33
tomreynjust install the latter16:33
grubissuegrub-efi-amd64-bin is already the newest version (2.02+dfsg1-12ubuntu2).16:34
tomreyngrubissue: okay, can you now:   apt update; apt full-upgrade -V16:34
grubissueif I try to install grub-efi-amd64 apt wants to remove grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc16:34
tomreynyou nee dthose16:35
grubissuetomreyn the full-upgrade does nothing except name autoremoveable pkgs16:36
tomreynyou don't need grub-efi-amd64 but you need grub-gfxpayload-lists grub-pc16:36
grubissuetomreyn i did not proceed to remove those16:36
tomreyngrubissue: okay, now update-grub && grub-install16:36
grubissuenor did I instyall grub-efi-amd6416:36
grubissuegrub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error.16:37
tomreyngrubissue: can you   sudo ls -lR /boot/efi/16:38
tomreyni was focussing on the nvram earlier when really i should have focussed on the ESP, sorry.16:39
tomreyngrubissue: ok. i remember i asked you to post    cat /proc/mounts   earlier, but can't find the output, did you post it?16:42
tomreyngrubissue: okay, so the ESP is mounted, and writable:  /dev/sda1 /boot/efi vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 016:44
tomreynstill grub states it runs into an I/O error while trying to write to it16:44
grubissueuh oh, i just purged the running kernel16:45
grubissueoh well, try grub again16:45
tomreyngrubissue: can you touch /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntutest16:45
grubissue-rwx------ 1 root root 0 apr 19 18:45 /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntutest16:45
grubissuegrub-install now works, after purging all 4.x.y kernels from 18.10 (now unsupported)16:47
tomreyngrubissue: ok. the upgrade would have done so if it had succeeded.16:48
grubissueupdate-grub && grub-install still craps out16:48
jojerogrubissue it shows nothing.16:48
grubissuegrub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Input/output error.16:48
tomreyngrubissue: how?16:48
jojerogrubissue I am so upset Im not gonna buy usb there anymore. Im happy that I still have 7 days replacement.16:48
grubissueInstalling for x86_64-efi platform. Could not prepare Boot variable: Invalid argument16:48
jojeroeven mkusb cant format it.16:48
grubissuejojero don buy usb disks and stuff on alibaba.com16:49
jojerogrubissue I buy on Gadget King in Philippines16:49
tomreyngrubissue: sudo efibootmgr --create-only --label test16:49
jojeroI hope the memory card I bought doesnt have any problem.16:50
grubissuejojero never had a problem with sandisk stuff16:50
tomreyngrubissue: please report the output of the above command, then run:  sudo efibootmgr16:50
grubissuedoes it work on a different computer?16:50
jojeroBtw, The receipt said, Purchased items are subject to 7 days replacement.16:51
grubissueCould not prepare Boot variable: Invalid argument16:51
jojeroAnd No proof of purchase and damaged packaging will not be honored what does the damaged packaging means? Specially sandisk packaging are cut off to get the usb drive inside. :/16:51
tomreyngrubissue: this is really where we need to file a bug.16:51
grubissueBootCurrent: 000016:52
jojerogrubissue do you think they will accept it for warranty?16:52
tomreyngrubissue: the abive command should not have failed, at least when secure boot is off, as you say.16:52
grubissuethat looks weird as there is no definition for it16:52
tomreyngrubissue: 0000 is the first16:52
tomreynoh ignore what i said, you'Re right16:53
tomreyngrubissue: but that's just because you usb booted16:53
grubissuetomreyn correct as in that is how i installed 18.1016:53
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tomreyngrubissue: at leats i would think so. at least you seem to have booted fine to 000016:53
grubissueguess i never changed the bios to not boot first from usb16:53
Catzzyetomreyn: Welcome back16:54
jojerogrubissue this is the case, ugh Im not gonna buy there anymore, thanks grub btw. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj2xp-tz9zhAhXSA4gKHbi0D8EQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.indiamart.com%2Fproddetail%2Fsandisk-pendrive-4315756612.html&psig=AOvVaw0wmYrS5EKtUpV3oTDE6cyO&ust=155577921305623816:54
grubissuei don have a bootable usb plugged in since the install16:54
Catzzyetomreyn: Actually, brb, I am gonna grab something to eat16:54
grubissuerebooted a few times since16:54
grubissuejojero: indiamart? that sounds even more fishy than alibaba16:55
grubissueodds are high that it is entirely counterfeit16:55
jojeroNaah in SM Sta Mesa here in manila16:55
tomreyngrubissue: i think what you posted earlier suggested that the current boot was off the installer, so i assume you are still running out of the installer /livecd. is this no longer so?16:55
jojeroI waste 10$ for this usb :/16:56
grubissuetomreyn no, booting off the ssd16:56
grubissueonly booted from usb to do the install16:56
jojeroIm gonna go crazy if they dont give it replacement.16:56
tomreyn!ot | jojero, I uznderstand this is aggravating, but16:56
ubottujojero, I uznderstand this is aggravating, but: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:56
grubissuejojero the time and agony are a bigger waste than the 10 bucks16:56
jojeroyeah. btw does anyone have problems with mine? Blue became purple on my 2nd monitor? Im using Ubuntu 18.0416:57
jojerooh sorry tomreyn.16:58
tomreyngrubissue: please set the standard boot order in your firmware, and reboot into this system, then run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" again16:58
tomreynthat's if you can boot that way16:58
grubissuetomreyn: will do, hope it still boots tho, i just removed the running kernel :-/16:58
grubissuetnx for the support16:59
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JimBuntujojero, double check the monitor cable is inserted well.17:03
grubissuewell, it rebooted allright into 5.0 kernel17:04
grubissuebuit grub-install still errors17:04
grubissuegonna reboot a few more times until i figure out how to get into the bios and set the boot order17:05
tomreyngrubissue: wait a second17:05
tomreyngrubissue: oh you already know the boot order is the issue, ok17:05
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CatzzyeThis captcha is so damn sensitive17:07
CatzzyeHello tomreyn, I don't know which messages have you seen, but I opened it up, dust a lot of stuff off, remove and removed the SSD M.2 stick (which looks just fine from a physical view) and I booted Ubuntu back up17:09
CatzzyeI don't see it picking it up by the Other Locations tab17:09
tomreynCatzzye: does this show errors?   journalctl -b | grep nvme17:09
jojeroJumbuntu naah I tried it even on windows with partition tool, its dead already. :/17:10
jojeroJimBuntu *17:10
Catzzyesorry give me a minute17:11
tomreynCatzzye: tis would be an error:   nvme nvme0: I/O17:11
CatzzyeI gotta boot back in17:11
tomreynsure, take you r time17:11
JimBuntujojero, I was talking about the blue/purple monitor issue you posted17:11
jojeroOh yes it was intact. Im using chrome17:12
sario528Is there a chromium irc channel?17:12
jojeroIn the chrome is purple not blue17:12
JimBuntusario528, /msg alis list chromium17:12
qwebirc30154What's an appropriate channel to ask about how to setup a TAP network interface and a bridge in ubuntu/linux?17:13
originalabhayanyone using 19.0417:13
tomreyn!alis | sario52817:13
ubottusario528: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"17:13
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sario528I forget about alis, thanks guys17:13
originalabhay<qwebirc30154> /join ##linux17:13
gislavedare all ubuntu mirrors that slow ?17:14
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grubissueTADAA!! after resetting the bios boot order, grub problems are now fixed17:14
grubissuebtw secure boot was off and still is17:15
grubissuethe bios has a listing of both uefi devices and legacy devices17:15
tomreyngrubissue: okay so i guess your uefi firmware is 'special' in that it sets a a non-existing bootnum if you boot as you did previously17:15
grubissuemaybe that also contributed to the weirdness17:15
tomreyngrubissue: it's usually best to boot to removable media only using a one-time boot override17:16
tomreyngrubissue: i.-.e don't change the boot ordering if you don't strictly need to.17:16
grubissuetomreyn yah, i guess so17:17
grubissueiḿ used to it working tho17:17
grubissuei guess that this is just a weird bios17:17
grubissueas i wrote it is a thin client17:17
tomreyngrubissue: also note that non-available boot devices with lower bootnums can have the complete boot process fail.17:18
grubissueHP t520 Flexible Series Thin Client17:18
tomreyngrubissue: i must have missed you writing this, i see17:18
grubissuethese things often have subtly nonstandard bioses17:19
tomreynright you said so before17:19
lotuspsychjeoriginalabhay: why?17:19
grubissueafter some mem and ssd upgrade makes a fine desktop tho17:19
tomreyngrubissue: some parts about uefi are not well specified, and others are not always implemented as specified.17:19
grubissuebetter than the raspi that i was using before17:19
grubissuecouldnt have more than 6 tabs open in that before it froze17:20
tomreyna bug report would still be nice, if you can sum it up.17:20
tomreynbut you'd need to point out it's likely hardware / firmware specific17:21
grubissuetomreyn will see what i do. have to eat a bit first17:21
grubissuedunno what pkg to file the bug against17:22
grubissuewhat do you suggest?17:22
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Catzzyejournalctl -b | grep nvme17:22
tomreyngrubissue: i'd say efibootmgr17:22
tomreyngrubissue: it's what update-grub calls and whatreports the I/O issue17:23
grubissueokay will look into it later17:23
lotuspsychje!pastebin | Catzzye17:23
ubottuCatzzye: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:23
tomreyngrubissue: see lines 3 and 4 at https://termbin.com/mr5217:23
Catzzye2tomreyn: I got a lot of messages, but they dont sound very positibe17:23
tomreyn<tomreyn> Catzzye: tis would be an error:   nvme nvme0: I/O17:24
grubissuetomreyn do you still have the termbin url handy that had the weird 0000 boot order?17:24
tomreynCatzzye2: does it report this?17:24
grubissuei lost the irc history over reboots17:24
Catzzye2tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BrTNfpNwbP/17:25
tomreyngrubissue: https://termbin.com/xkc017:25
grubissuewhat was the command again to produce that?17:25
tomreyngrubissue: there's also a channel log (but delaed by ~ 30 min or an hour), see /topic17:25
lotuspsychjegrubissue: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/04/19/%23ubuntu.html17:25
tomreyngrubissue: efibootmgr17:25
tomreynCatzzye2: yes this looks just like before17:26
grubissuetomreyn tnx17:26
Catzzye2tomreyn: well yikes17:26
tomreynCatzzye2: so unless those acpi issues trigger this, i 'd say this storage is done.17:26
tomreynCatzzye2: you can try examining this stoage more using the "nvme" (CLI) utilities17:26
tomreynCatzzye2: but chances are it will just timeout again17:27
Catzzye2well, might as well try17:28
grubissueokay afk for some soup eatin17:28
Catzzye2how do I go around doing that17:28
tomreynCatzzye2: do you actually reboot, or just suspend/resume ?17:28
Catzzye2have a nice meal grubissue17:28
Catzzye2tomreyn: The Ubuntu? I just booted back to it from flash17:28
tomreynCatzzye2: so a full reboot, you'Re saying, right?17:29
myselfSo, an old Windows reflex surfaced and I accidentally hit Alt-F4. Of course, a new console pops up. Alt-F1 takes me back to my GUI session easily enough, but now when I use Win+rightarrow to try to shove a window into the right half of the screen, I instead end up over on this other terminal. How do I make it go away?17:29
Catzzye2I think so? tomreyn17:30
tomreynCatzzye2: i.e. you either chose the option to shutdown / powerdown, or the option to reboot, from the menu. not the option to "pause"17:30
tomreynCatzzye2: i'm asking because suspend could cause these issues.17:30
Catzzye2I mean when I was taking it apart I choose shutdown17:30
Catzzye2And it shutted down completely17:31
tomreynCatzzye2: okay, that's good enough.17:31
Catzzye2And I booted back from Boot menu and it took a couple minutes to load, meaning its most likely full17:31
OerHeksmyself, there is a solution, moment..17:31
myselfOerHeks: Thanks :) I know I could just reboot, but that wouldn't actually teach me anything...17:32
Catzzye2did you say there is something else to try out?17:32
tomreynCatzzye2: actually, there may be a firmware update for the nvme you could install. let me check this.17:32
OerHeksmyself, sudo kbd_mode -s # https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/46750317:32
tomreynCatzzye2: the other thing i said you could try is this (windows only) firmware upgrade: https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/omen-by-hp-15-ce000-laptop-pc/1555143717:33
tomreynactually this https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/swdetails/omen-by-hp-15-ce000-laptop-pc/15551437/swItemId/ob-221294-117:33
OerHeksi believe it is persistent.17:33
myselfOerHeks: Thanks, that did the trick!17:33
Catzzye2Windows only yikes17:34
OerHeksmyself, have fun!17:35
martind_hello gus17:38
martind_I have a strange problem with my ubuntu related to the memory17:38
Catzzye2why do M.2 even need updates haha17:38
martind_i have 2Gigs of RAM and sometimes, when the apps eat almost all of it (95%) ubuntu freezes17:38
ikanoboriThat's not very strange.17:38
martind_how can I easily open task manager and kill whatever is eating it17:38
amiritehey guys, i just installed elementary OS (debian based) and I can't get X to start or even configure it. The first error I see in Xorg.0.log is '(EE) Failed to load module "ati" (module does not exist, 0)'. I can't figure out where the configure lives that is trying to load this module. It's not matched by grepping recursively in /etc/X11 or in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/17:39
lotuspsychje_martind_: your ubuntu version please?17:39
tomreynCatzzye2: one of the ACPIU errors seems to refer to the nvme. i think a mainboard firmware (uefi) upgrade makes a lot of sense.17:39
martind_Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS17:39
leftyfb!elementary | martind_17:39
ubottumartind_: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.17:39
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lotuspsychje_martind_: ubuntu-desktop with gnome?17:40
amiriteso I have to install ubuntu to figure this out?17:40
leftyfbamirite: type /join #elementary and ask for help there17:40
lotuspsychje_amirite: when you install ubuntu, you can get support here for ubuntu17:41
tomreynamirite: you are welcome to ask for support in #ubuntu when you run ubuntu. makes sense, eh? ;-)17:41
martind_lotuspsychje_: yes17:41
lotuspsychje_martind_: 2GB ram for gnome3 is a bit low im affraid17:42
lotuspsychje_martind_: you might wanna try out other !flavors for your computer17:42
tomreynCatzzye2: i can't tell what your NVMe model is from your log (it doesn't get that far), so can't tell whether there may be firmware upgrades available for it.17:42
lotuspsychje_martind_: unless you really wanna tweak to the max17:43
OerHeksfwupdate ..?17:43
tomreynCatzzye2: but if you'll have to reinstall windows to be able to upgrade your mainboard firmware, you may want to re-use this 'opportunity' to also install the NVMe vendors' upgrade utility and check whether an NVMe upgrade si available.17:44
martind_my Motherboard support up to 4GB17:44
martind_if I upgrade ... will that be enough though?17:44
lotuspsychje_martind_: do you have an ssd or mechanical hd?17:44
martind_ssd - 120GB17:44
martind_runs like hell17:44
lotuspsychje_Matrix8967[m]: upgrade what to what?17:44
martind_until i reaches 95% memory17:44
lotuspsychje_martind_: ^17:44
martind_then it stucks for like a minute17:44
Catzzye2okay so if its not a problem for you to check I found a box17:45
martind_AMD® Phenom(tm) 9750 quad-core processor × 417:45
tomreynOerHeks: HP laptop, Insyde UEFI.17:45
Catzzye2it says PCIe SSD 110s, Gen 3 x4, 128GB tomreyn17:45
tomreynCatzzye2: what doe you mean?17:45
tomreynCatzzye2: no vendor?17:46
lotuspsychje_Matrix8967[m]: sorry, typo17:46
tomreynCatzzye2: or brand17:46
Catzzye2vendor is Transcend17:46
Matrix8967[m]Ohh, haha, np.17:46
* Matrix8967[m] resumes lurking17:46
lotuspsychje_!flavors | martind_17:46
ubottumartind_: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours17:46
lotuspsychje_martind_: just not kubuntu17:47
martind_lotuspsychje_: Yes, I ended with Unbuntu after trying few others17:47
tomreynCatzzye2: https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/No-95317:47
martind_but ... will 4GB be enough ?17:47
mike802you don't understand the words you're typing17:48
OerHeks4 gb would be minimum for 64bit, in my opinion17:48
lotuspsychje_martind_: 4g ram will work on gnome3 yeah, reccomended 8gb+17:48
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tomreynCatzzye2: the pre-selected Part Number on the top right should be correct.17:48
mike802have you ever used ANY computer before?  how does ram work on windows?17:49
lotuspsychje_!who | mike80217:49
ubottumike802: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)17:49
tomreynCatzzye2: "SSD Scope" is the utility you 'd need17:50
Catzzye2yeah... but its Windows only again17:50
tomreynCatzzye2: also note this https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/FAQ-120617:51
tomreynCatzzye2: and this https://www.transcend-info.com/Support/FAQ-120217:51
Catzzye2oh god did I buy the wrong one17:52
LoebI've gone and botched something in the kernel and now the "nvidia" driver is grabbing my secondary card instead of "vfio-pci" again. I don't know how exactly I fixed this before and all of those changes are still in place, so I'm at a loss.17:52
Catzzye2windows updates are the most evil thing, they always screw something up17:53
Catzzye2oh Goddd I bought the wrong oneeee17:53
Catzzye2the chips are facing downwards17:53
lotuspsychje_Loeb: you did what with kernel on wich ubuntu version?17:53
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tomreynCatzzye2: oops17:54
LoebWent from 4.18 to 5.0 on dist upgrade from 18.10 to 1.04 lotuspsychje17:54
Catzzye2are they not supposed to face downward17:54
lotuspsychjeLoeb: pastebin: sudo lshw -C video please?17:54
Catzzye2they are facing the internal components17:55
Catzzye2I can take a picture17:55
tomreynCatzzye2: i woupd not know, you really need to check these images on that FAQ and compare the connectors to your board. note that you have 2 lanes next to the notch on the one platform, 3 on the other. You can also ask for help with this in ##hardware17:55
Loeblotuspsychje, nvidia 750ti and 950, both with the config line "driver=nvidia latency=0" IRC is on a different computer from the one being worked on so it's a pain to get text from here to there.17:56
LoebBoth have physical id: 0, curiously.17:56
Catzzye2B and M design are identical17:57
Catzzye2one is just flipped17:57
Catzzye2uhh this sucks hahaha17:57
lotuspsychjeLoeb: you recall wich drivers you installed? stock ubuntu or ppa?17:57
tomreynCatzzye2: you're right, and i was wrong about the lanes17:57
Loeblotuspsychje, stock ubuntu.17:57
lotuspsychjeLoeb: could you check: ubuntu-drivers list17:57
LoebThey got uninstalled/reinstalled a LOT when I was fixing this last week. When I switched to 418 everything started working.17:58
Catzzye2but what if it isnt just flipped17:58
Catzzye2but why would it work in the first place17:58
tomreynuser_: please don't spam, thanks.17:58
Loeblotuspsychje, that command returns nvidia-340, nvidia-driver-390, and nvidia-driver-418. Does that mean that those are installed? Or just available.17:59
tomreynCatzzye2: i'm not qualified to help you figuring this out, and you'll best be served on a support forum for hardware. we support an operating system here only17:59
lotuspsychjeLoeb: it means the drivers available for your card17:59
lotuspsychjeLoeb: maybe try the 390 and reboot, see if that can fix things17:59
Catzzye2right, thanks tomreyn18:00
Loeblotuspsychje, I could try that again, the conclusion I came to last time was 390 wasn't supported on the newer (4.18 at the time) kernel.18:00
lotuspsychjeLoeb: we can test18:00
lotuspsychje!ops | user_ spam18:01
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Loebfeels like december 2618:02
Catzzye2lol why do they even troll in the most useless place18:02
Catzzye2out of all the places why harass the support channel18:02
OerHeksCatzzye2, let go, ops will handle it18:03
Catzzye2its just stupid and unneccesary but yeah18:03
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Catzzye2I must be invited to #hardware apperantly, not sure what that means tomreyn18:04
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tomreynCatzzye2: it's ##hardware18:04
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leftyfbuser_: please leave18:05
leftyfbuser_: feel free to join #ubuntu-ops if you need help trolling18:05
Loeblotuspsychje, well 390 seems to have worked in that the driver loaded on boot (unless 418 stuck around?) but it's still sticking on both cards18:05
user_dreine murt18:05
LoebI just realized I haven't been using --purge so lemme run that real quick18:05
lotuspsychjeLoeb: what do you mean with 'sticking' on both cards?18:06
user_deine mutter fickt 20 stunden pro tag18:06
user_haltsmaul du hurr18:06
Loeblotuspsychje, lspci -nnk returns the "nvidia" driver being loaded on the 950 (secondary card, not being used on the desktop) as well as the 750 ti (primary card, being used to drive displays)18:06
lotuspsychjeLoeb: does your bios have settings to prefer a card?18:06
leftyfbuser_: bitte geh18:06
M_aDuser_: learn to speak proper German since our not even able to and stop trolling18:07
Annexationis it generally a bad idea to dual boot with ubuntu?18:09
lotuspsychjeAnnexation: the users choice18:09
Annexationor is it best to have a dedicated machine for ubuntu18:09
OerHeksAnnexation, it is oke. and tested.18:09
LoebAnnexation, dual booting is usually fine, though if you just want a test drive you can run the OS from a USB drive without making any changes to your hard disk.18:09
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LoebI want to say what licked it last time was moving the "vfio-pci ids=" list of devices for the vfio-pci driver to grab into modprobe.d instead of the grub command line18:11
Loebthat's obviously still in place18:12
LoebI feel like this is just some weird race condition during boot18:12
SomeTin ubuntu server I have the following active screen, in screen: https://i.gyazo.com/1db666e2bd97073d88183f0bad64c52b.png its running in the background and I want to stop it, how do I switch back to it?18:13
lotuspsychjecome join to #ubuntu-server please SomeT18:13
SomeTI did already ;)18:13
SomeTI put in many channels to see which is most responsive18:13
lotuspsychje!crosspost | SomeT18:13
ubottuSomeT: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.18:13
leftyfbSomeT: screen -d -r 1440.pts-018:14
SomeTI know its frowned upon to do this, but last month it took 3 months of waiting to get a response and that was only because I nudged on a different irc server18:14
Loebmaybe they'll get k-lined later18:14
mike802this isn't a couple's get-away18:15
Loeblotuspsychje, so remove and went to 390, and then remove --purge and went back to 418. Still no change.18:15
lotuspsychjemike802: please keep comments for offtopic channel18:15
jcottonwhat is the OT channel?18:15
lotuspsychje!ot | jcotton18:15
ubottujcotton: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:15
lotuspsychje!discuss > jcotton also18:15
ubottujcotton, please see my private message18:15
Loebman that heavy bot use never gets any less abrasive -.-18:16
jcottonautomation is a harsh mistress18:16
SomeTleftyb: I tried what you mentioned, but it did not work18:16
lotuspsychjeLoeb jcotton keep comments out of the support channel please18:17
SomeTleftyb: Attaching from inside of screen?18:17
SomeTthats what it comes up with18:17
SomeTwhen I type what you advised?18:17
leftyfbSomeT: close your terminal first, then run it18:17
leftyfbin a new terminal18:17
SomeTnow I see18:18
SomeThow do I get rid of a screen completely?18:18
Loebscreen -ls will give you the procss id number, and you can just kill that18:18
leftyfbSomeT: why do you need to remove it? Just don't run it if you don't want to use it18:18
Loebor attach to the screen and kill it18:18
leftyfbSomeT: sudo apt remove screen18:19
jcottonhe said a screen18:19
jcottonso not thee screen program18:19
SomeTI got rid of it by accident anyway18:19
SomeTso no worries18:19
leftyfbSomeT: to exit out of screen and not leave it running, just type exit18:20
SomeThow do I kill this process completely? I am about 99.9% certain the binary is terminated but the port is still in use?: 2019/04/19 18:28:01 listen tcp :80: bind: address already in use18:28
leftyfbSomeT: sudo lsof -i :8018:29
leftyfbto see what's using it18:29
SomeTI tried to do `kill 1940`18:31
SomeTbut I still get same error18:31
leftyfbSomeT: sudo kill-9 194018:31
leftyfbSomeT: or stop it properly18:31
SomeT`sudo: kill-9: command not found`18:31
SomeThow do I stop it properly18:31
leftyfbSomeT: I'm not familiar with any "backend" application. I  assume a systemd service18:32
SomeTnah its a webserver I written in golang18:32
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leftyfbSomeT: ok, so unless you wrote it properly and/or wrote a systemd unit, you'll just need to kill the PID18:33
SomeTI tried to kill PID18:33
SomeTthe command dont exist your method18:33
SomeTif I just type kill nothing happens18:33
cryptodanSomeT: its "sudo kill -9 1940"18:33
SomeTyay that worked18:34
SomeTthought there might have been a space18:34
Brainiackanyone know how to add a button to ubuntu taskbar name the button and then have it launch a bash script once pressed18:34
SomeTwas going to try18:34
SomeTsymlink possibly, but thats coming from unix / mac os x18:34
lighthunterhello; i have just updated to Ubuntu 19.04 from 18.10 on my laptop that has an NVIDIA graphics card, and now I can no longer connect to my external monitor via HDMI. happy to provide further details as requested. i have tried switching back from gdm3 to lightdm since that was a crucial step when i faced the same bug on Ubuntu 18.04. i have also ensured that Wayland is disabled in18:34
lighthunter /etc/gdm3/custom.conf since that was also a crucial step when facing this bug on Ubuntu 18.04.18:34
tomreynBrainiack: you will want to provide your ubuntu version and desktop environment / ubuntu flavour when asking questions specific to it.18:35
Brainiacktomreyn ==>4.18.0-17-generic18:35
Brainiack 4.18.0-17-generic #18~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 15 15:27:12 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:36
pizza_guyI want to ask about docker and prometheus, is that possible to monitor an app inside the docker container and expose it to the prometheus?18:37
SomeTwhats prometheus?18:37
SomeTyeah it should be18:38
SomeTtry #prometheus18:38
pizza_guyah, thanks in advance18:38
SomeTnot to keen on docker myself, to many flaws right now18:38
SomeTwhats wrong with you man?18:40
SomeTare you ok?18:40
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SomeThow do I set my time to daylight savings on ubuntu server?18:49
SomeTits currently one hour behind18:49
cryptodanSomeT: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"18:49
jojeroHi! Anyone can help me installing powerline on ubuntu 18.04? I restart already but the powerline still not activated18:51
tomreynjojero: powerline, as in a software? or an ethernet connection?18:52
KWhat4Hi, I cant seem to find a package for reptyr18:52
leftyfbKWhat4: what version of ubuntu?18:53
SomeTthanks that worked perfectly18:53
leftyfbKWhat4: sudo add-apt-repository && sudo apt update   # then install it18:53
LoebHow do I force the vfio_pci module to load before the nvidia module during boot?18:54
KWhat4leftyfb: Which repo?  I've already added universe...18:54
leftyfbKWhat4: it's part of the universe repo. If you're not seeing it, you have other issues. pastebin the output of: sudo apt update ; apt-cache policy reptyr18:54
jojerotomreyn software18:56
Fahjojero: assuming you have the addon manager installed just do " vim-addon-manager  install powerline"18:56
jojeroI manage to hit the right loc now its showing but I cant see the branching for github18:56
tomreyn!info powerline18:56
ubottupowerline (source: powerline): prompt and statusline utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6-1 (bionic), package size 40 kB, installed size 251 kB18:56
tomreynjojero: sudo apt update && sudp aop install powerline18:56
leftyfbjojero: I would read up on the documentation for powerline18:56
tomreynjojero: sudo apt update && sudp apt install powerline18:57
leftyfbtomreyn: it's already installed18:57
leftyfbtomreyn: they don't know how to use it18:57
tomreynleftyfb: how do you know?18:57
leftyfb"I restart already but the powerline still not activated"18:57
miaHello channel18:57
SomeTwhat do you want?18:58
miaI'd like to know if it's possible to disable the curtain slide effect in ubuntu 18.0418:58
tomreynleftyfb: i see18:58
miaI wasn't unable to find anything solid online18:58
SomeTis this ubuntu desktop?18:58
jojerotomreyn I install using pip is that okay?18:58
miathere seems to be an old extension, that does not seem to work with 18.04 LTS18:58
jojeroleftyfb wait im gonna send imgur screenshots18:58
leftyfbmia: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2018/03/disable-gnome-shell-animation-on-ubuntu-1710-and-1804.html18:58
miaSomeT, this does not seem to work with 18.0418:59
miaeven though it says, it does18:59
KWhat4leftyfb: http://dpaste.com/2THXXRY18:59
tomreynjojero: not strictly wrong, but we only support apt installations here normally.18:59
leftyfbmia: please see my link18:59
tomreyn+ snaps18:59
mialeftyfb, checking18:59
leftyfbtomreyn: powerline is a package18:59
tomreynleftyfb: i'm aware, why do you say so?19:00
leftyfbKWhat4: you're running ubuntu-ports(I assume ARM?). That package might not be available for your architecture19:00
mialeftyfb, oh, my earlier question: disable animations?19:00
miais this an answer for that?19:00
leftyfbmia: yes19:00
miaI think I sort of figured out a way to disable the animations only for window resizing -- that's what I was looking for19:00
miastill thank you for sending me this, I really appreciate it! and I'm quite surprised that you remember this!19:00
KWhat4leftyfb: ah that would explain it19:00
KWhat4yes this is arm19:01
leftyfbmia: I didn't. I googled for "Ubuntu 18.04 disable effects"19:01
miaso, need a way to disable this curtain thing in the lock screen19:01
miathe swipe thing19:01
miawhatever it's called..19:02
leftyfbmia: you know you can just hit enter or start typing your password right?19:02
miaoh! let me try!19:02
miaOH WOW19:02
miathanks leftyfb19:03
miaI'm new to all this and the visual language of this does not communicate with me perfectly19:03
miaso thanks for this manual guidance19:03
jojerotomreyn I can only see directory listing in powerline, I can't see the branch. :(19:04
* SomeT thinks this is most friendly socially intelligent person to ever enter IRC lol19:04
leftyfbjojero: https://powerline.readthedocs.io/en/latest/   Please read the documentation on how to use powerline19:05
tomreynjojero: i can't guide you on using this software, do not know it.19:05
leftyfbSomeT: Please try to only provide helpful answers19:07
martind_thank you guys. Have a nice night :)19:20
lastebill1what's the worst things about 19.04 in your opinion?  How buggy is it?19:24
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ducasselastebill1: that's not a support question, which is what we do here19:25
jcottonit also just came out19:25
FTMichaelAnyone else having desktop issues after upgrading to 19.04? (Can't do a fresh install just yet but will in a few days)19:28
tomreynFTMichael: better discuss the very issues you're seeing, polls don't work well here.19:29
FTMichaelFair. When I open the dash, it will not close. I can open an app from the dash, but the app is not clickable or usable. I haven't found anything to do except log out or reboot.19:30
jojeroI fixed it yay! tomreyn, thanks btw!19:30
tomreynjojero: i didn't do much, lefty pointed you to the docs, which probably helped.19:31
FTMichaelGoogling is getting me a bunch of results from 2013. :P19:31
jojerohihi still you guys help me thank you so much, my terminal is now so cool19:31
tomreynFTMichael: does "dash" refer to the unity desktop environment there?19:31
FTMichaelI guess? I press the Super key and it asks me to search for apps.19:32
FTMichaelIt's been a long long time since I upgraded instead of doing a fresh install. I upgraded from 18.10 to 19.0419:32
leftyfbFTMichael: what version did you upgrade from and was that a fresh install or upgraded as well?19:32
tomreynFTMichael: can you show a screenshot?19:32
FTMichaelThe 18.10 was a fresh install19:32
leftyfbok, so no, it's gnome, not Unity19:32
FTMichaelCan't screenshot because nothing works once I open the dash.19:33
tomreynFTMichael: probbaly gnome then, yes.19:33
tomreynFTMichael: does ctrl-alt-t open a temrinal window, and can you run a command such as "echo" there (should just return to a new line)?19:34
tomreynFTMichael: please run this, posting the http address returned here:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)19:34
FTMichaeltomreyn, https://termbin.com/ofca19:34
tomreynFTMichael: please run this, posting the http address returned here: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog19:35
FTMichaeltomreyn, https://termbin.com/jm5719:35
tomreynFTMichael: please run this, posting the http address returned here: ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999919:36
FTMichaeltomreyn, https://termbin.com/mjjm19:36
tomreynFTMichael: you will need to get this fiexed:  E: The repository 'http://deb.playonlinux.com disco Release' does not have a Release file.19:37
FTMichaeloh, that's more recent. That's not connected to the error. But I can fix that now19:37
tomreynFTMichael: this is an apt repository you have configured, it may have worked before you upgraded, but it doe snot support ubuntu 19.0419:37
tomreynFTMichael: correct, that's unrelated to the issue19:37
FTMichaelNo, I know. :) Just disabled that.19:37
tomreynFTMichael: you may also want to look at this later: https://termbin.com/mjjm19:38
tomreynFTMichael:  please run this, posting the http address returned here: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999919:38
FTMichaelI was looking at it, but slightly unclear why apps like hexchat and audacity aren't supported19:38
FTMichaeltomreyn, https://termbin.com/hhysg19:39
tomreynFTMichael: they receive community support, this output is from a Canonoical perspective.19:39
FTMichaeltomreyn, https://termbin.com/hhysq19:39
tomreynFTMichael: take a look at the bottom of the latest post19:40
FTMichaeltomreyn, looking at it, but not really sure what I'm looking at19:40
LoebOk so after doing some work trying to blacklist the nvidia driver and reload it later, I somehow got it to load later on in the boot process WITHOUT blacklisting it at any point. Why did this happen?19:41
tomreyn!info ayatana19:41
ubottuPackage ayatana does not exist in bionic19:41
OerHekswhat fixed it... sudo apt-get remove indicator-multiload from answer #719:42
tomreynOerHeks: that's for FTMichael, I suppose?19:43
FTMichaelIs indicator-multiload my entire problem?19:43
OerHekssorry, yes, FTMichael ^^19:43
FTMichaelI'll try removing that19:43
sonicwindI had problems with indicator-multiload on my Gnome 18.04 LTS and had to remove it... there's a gnome extension that you can replace it with19:43
tomreynFTMichael: try this, and logout and login.19:44
FTMichaeltbh that indicator hasn't worked well for quite a while. Just hadn't found anything better.19:44
FTMichaelRight, relogging19:44
antoninohi all19:44
FTMichael_AndroiNope. Problem persists.19:45
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tomreynFTMichael: what your system log (which you can always access using journalctl -b) showed was that an error message regarding ayatana is constantly thrown. i assume OerHeks searched the web for this error message and came up with the finding he posted here.19:46
OerHeksfrom bug #1768127 and #173946819:47
ubottubug 1739468 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1768127 Repeated [AppIndicatorSupport-WARN] Item :1.51/org/ayatana/NotificationItem/multiload is already registered" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173946819:47
tomreynFTMichael: i suggest you reboot fully, then post "journalctl -b" again19:47
ubottubug 1739468 in gnome-shell-extension-appindicator (Ubuntu) "Repeated [AppIndicatorSupport-WARN] Item :1.51/org/ayatana/NotificationItem/multiload is already registered" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173946819:47
FTMichaelI rebooted, tomreyn. https://termbin.com/up1u19:47
tomreynthis error message seems ot be gone, though, that's a good start19:48
sonicwindFTMichael, , the gnome extension "system-monitor" is the replacement I've read about for indicator-multiload.19:48
FTMichaelNoted, sonicwind. Thanks :)19:48
FTMichaelWhen I get this sorted I'll go have a look19:48
tomreynFTMichael: i'm reading your log, may take another 5-10 minutes19:50
FTMichaelMuch appreciated tomreyn :)19:50
OerHeksFTMichael, redshift, does that ring a bell?19:55
FTMichaelOerHeks, I do also have redshift and saw that it's also connected to ayatana, but it doesn't seem to throw that same error19:56
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atheodobuilding a new ubuntu box with M.2 and an HDD and SSD19:57
atheodomy plan is hook up the M.2 only and install ubuntu19:58
tomreynFTMichael: maybe we'll make better progress by asking you whihc non standard configurations you have19:58
_genuser_hello people. I'm trying to see if I can upgrade nodejs to 8 or higher. But the in the repos, all it shows is 4.2.6. that's pretty old. Is there a way to get the higher versions? Or does one have to install from source?19:58
atheodoonce that is done, shut down hook up HD and SSD, restart and use Disks to format the SSD and HDD19:58
atheododo you see any issues with that plan?>19:58
_genuser_on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS19:58
tomreynFTMichael: i don't see other obvious major issues on the logs. you have some gnome shell extensions which may be causing trouble.19:59
tomreynFTMichael: and an nvidia prime configuration apparently19:59
_Sym__genuser_, I think the issue with upgrading nodejs on ubuntu 16.04 is related to upgrading openssl19:59
_genuser_atheodo: sounds fine. any reason you don't want to connect all of them together first?19:59
tomreyn!ppa | _genuser_19:59
ubottu_genuser_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:59
_genuser_tomreyn: thanks. IO20:00
_genuser_I'll go look there first.20:00
FTMichaeltomreyn, I was already using a proprietary nvidia driver, but I upgraded it to the tested one after upgrading to 19.04. I hoped that might help resolve the dash issue. No effect though20:00
_genuser__Sym_: thanks.20:00
mike802have you bothered checking with your dev team about actual coding issues?20:01
tomreynFTMichael: did you have more 3rd party software package repositories configured before the upgrade than you have now?20:01
FTMichaeltomreyn, extensions I have: Alternate Tab (which I think I read that I no longer need in 19.04), desktop icons (which I don't want and I'm sure I didn't install), Ubuntu AppIndicators, Ubuntu Dock, and Workspace Grid20:01
FTMichaelPrior to the upgrade, it was just that one that gave an apt error. The upgrade disabled it; I re-enabled it after the upgrade; it gave an apt error, which  you saw. I've now disabled that again20:02
tomreynFTMichael: dpkg -l gnome-shell-extension*20:02
mike802even if this terrible idea of yours DID work, some teams use the version they are familiar with ON PURPOSE20:02
tomreynFTMichael: ^ this lists the packaged extensions you have installed, 3 of them comae along with the ubuntu desktop20:02
tomreyn! who | mike80220:03
ubottumike802: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)20:03
FTMichaeltomreyn, appindicator, autohidetopbar, caffeine, dash-to-panel, dashtodock, desktop-icons, multi-monitors, pixelsaver, taskbar, top-icons-plus, ubuntu-dock, workspaces-to-dock20:03
tomreynFTMichael: quite a few. i can't comment on those, but would recommend you try whether the same issues occur with those disabled first of all.20:04
FTMichaeltomreyn, how do I disable them via the command line?20:04
OerHeksdashtodock https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock/+bug/181908620:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1819086 in gnome-shell-extension-dashtodock (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 19.04: Some gnome-shell extensions no longer work since updating to gnome-shell 3.31/3.32" [High,Triaged]20:04
FTMichaelOr via GUI, but https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ gave me an incomplete list.20:05
OerHeksthat immediatly rings a bell20:05
OerHeksDash to Panel and Dash to Dock are not working anymore.20:06
FTMichaelDisabled a few, let me try a relog.20:06
tomreynFTMichael: gnome shell extensions are quite version dependant, you need to use those that are known to work with your verison of gnome-shell20:06
FTMichael_AndroiI think it was Workspace Grid20:08
tomreynFTMichael: gnome shell extensions are quite version dependant, you need to use those that are known to work with your verison of gnome-shell20:09
tomreynFTMichael_Androi: ^20:09
FTMichaeltomreyn, thanks so much :) I disabled most of them but Workspace Grid had an Error icon and wouldn't let me disable. Restarted and had the same error. Fully removed Workspace Grid and Alternate Tab, restarted again, and it seems to work now20:10
tomreynFTMichael: very well, this hopefully scaled down on the amount of   gnome-shell[PID]: JS ERROR: ...   you have in your system journal, too.20:11
FTMichaelThat does look calmer20:11
tomreynnice. it'll add some over time, but it looks good now20:13
FTMichaeltomreyn, thanks again! You saved me from a whole lot of aggravation. :)20:14
OerHeks!cookie | tomreyn20:14
ubottutomreyn: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:14
tomreyn!cookie | OerHeks20:15
ubottuOerHeks: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:15
tomreynFTMichael: you're welcome20:15
tomreynFTMichael_Androi: btw. you might want to take a look at https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Z390%20Phantom%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#BIOS20:19
tomreynyours is BIOS P1.20 09/04/201820:19
s3nd1v0g1usI accidentally deleted the folder icon from the desktop/dash. How can i replace it?20:20
s3nd1v0g1usIm on budgie, 18.1020:20
leftyfbs3nd1v0g1us: folder icon?20:21
CyberManifestI'm trying to install a package and I get the Error: Wrong architecture 'amd64' -- Run dpkg --add-architecture to add it and update afterwards; but I don't seem to understand the proper syntax; I tryed: 'dpkg --add-architecture aarch64 discord-0.0.9.deb' but that doesn't seem to work, I read dpkg --help but I obviously don't understand. Could someone please assist me in figuring this out?20:21
s3nd1v0g1usyes, the icon that is a folder and that allows you to open a window and explore one's files.20:21
tomreynCyberManifest: what'S the output of dpkg --print-architecture20:22
jcottonCyberManifest: sounds like the Discord deb doesn't have aarchy64 support20:22
CyberManifesttomreyn, arm6420:22
s3nd1v0g1usleftyfb the folder/file explorer icon.20:22
CyberManifestjcotton, right but it sounds like there is a command to add it ?20:23
tomreynCyberManifest: what jcotton says20:23
jcotton--add-architecture architecture20:24
jcotton              Add  architecture  to  the  list  of  architectures  for  which packages can be installed without using20:24
jcotton              --force-architecture20:24
jcottonit just lets you install amd64 packages20:24
jcottonbut it won't work anyhow20:24
allureHey guys. How do I disable the new dock keyboard shortcuts of meta+1, meta+2, etc on Ubuntu 19.0420:24
jcottonsince you're on arm6420:24
tomreynCyberManifest: you could add additional architectures to dpkg, which would enable you to install those packages. but this wouldn't enable your CPU to execute any binaries contained in those packages.20:24
OerHeksinstall the snap version ? https://snapcraft.io/discord20:24
CyberManifestoh that's very very sad :(20:24
OerHeksoh arm64, forget my post20:24
daxCyberManifest: please don't crosspost between #debian and #ubuntu. Use whichever channel matches the distro you're using.20:25
s3nd1v0g1usso how can i replace the folder icon to the dock/dash?20:25
jcottons3nd1v0g1us: it's just Nautilus I think20:25
jcottonopen it, then right click the icon > pin20:25
jcottonor w/e it's called20:25
OerHekss3nd1v0g1us, drag it from the softwaremenu to the dock?20:25
CyberManifestdax, you weren't paying attention, I mentioned that it was wrong room, it was an accident [15:21:06] <CyberManifest> oops, I"m sorry wrong room20:26
daxCyberManifest: ah, indeed. carry on :)20:26
OerHeksCyberManifest, so on what arch are you actually ? i386?20:26
OerHeksas amd64 is wrong...20:27
OerHeksoke, no discord then :-(20:27
s3nd1v0g1usproblem solved. :)20:27
s3nd1v0g1usi surely love IRC.20:27
CyberManifestyeah, very sad :(20:27
tomreynCyberManifest: you may want to remove the foreign architecture if you previously added it20:27
tomreyndpkg --print-foreign-architectures20:28
CyberManifesttomreyn, I think they all errored out anyways so nothing was added20:28
CyberManifestdpkg --print-foreign-architectures #is only returning armhf (which should be kept)20:28
jcottonwhat's hf?20:29
jcottonin armhf20:29
CyberManifesthardware fixed or firm or something like that20:29
CyberManifestoh, no20:29
OerHeksarmhf sounds like rasp pi20:29
CyberManifesthardware floatpoint20:29
CyberManifestOerHeks, yes raspberry pi does have armhf support20:30
OerHeksyou might want to checkout purple-discord20:31
OerHeks!info purple-discord20:31
ubottupurple-discord (source: purple-discord): Discord messaging service plugin for libpurple. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2017.12.27.git.9b7c3ad-1 (bionic), package size 43 kB, installed size 136 kB20:31
OerHeksdebian gives a arm64 and armhf version https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=purple-discord20:32
CyberManifestwhat is libpurple?20:32
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Guest18706hi everyone20:33
Guest18706i like ubuntu20:33
allureHey guys. How do I disable the new dock keyboard shortcuts of meta+1, meta+2, etc on Ubuntu 19.04?20:33
tomreyn!info libpurple020:33
ubottulibpurple0 (source: pidgin): multi-protocol instant messaging library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.12.0-1ubuntu4 (bionic), package size 1035 kB, installed size 4331 kB20:33
OerHeksCyberManifest, sorry, never used it, it sounds like a message app .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/purple-discord20:34
CyberManifestOerHeks, but this Ubuntu isn't based on either of those debian cores (buster, or sid) it's on (stretch) I believe20:34
daxpurple-discord is a plugin for libpurple. libpurple is the IM library used by pidgin (plus a couple of other things)20:35
tomreynCyberManifest: libpurple is a generic chat protocol library, which can be used by multiple GUIs. the most known software to use it will be pidgin.20:35
daxi suspect just using the discord web UI is going to be less crufty than trying to pipe it through pidgin, but ymmv20:35
scooterdhey guys need some help system trying to update but wont says ck internet connection20:35
tomreynalso less TOS violating20:35
OerHeksinstalling purple-discord would pull those packages in.. easy to check it out20:36
furyi'm having trouble getting my installer to recognize my new 1 TB SSD as the primary drive, it keeps putting it off to /dev/nvme1n1 and leaving the existing 512 GB drive as nvme0n1. i tried swapping them around in the M.2 card to no avail...tried removing the 512 GB drive, installing on the 1 TB, then reinstalling the 512 GB drive, then it wants to boot from the 512 GB drive again >.> what am i doing wrong? i have LVM on both20:36
CyberManifestI'll just open Discord in browser, I don't want to have to install pidgin extra bloat20:36
Ben64fury: why does it matter what it's called20:36
furyi don't know, just want it to boot from the 1 TB instead of the other one20:37
tomreynscooterd: what does "wont says ck internet connection" mean?20:37
furyi've set it higher in the boot list in bios20:37
Ben64maybe it isn't bootable20:38
furyi just installed ubuntu on it about 30 minutes ago, told it "erase disk and install ubuntu" and "use lvm..."20:38
scooterdTOMsystem wont update says to ck connection when it is ok20:38
furythen when i put the 512 gig drive back in, it's like it can't boot from it at all20:38
Ben64did you make sure to install grub onto it20:39
furyyeah. if i take the 512 gig drive out, it'll boot up20:39
tomreynfury: changing the boot order on your mainboard (UEFI?) firmware won't necessarily (probably not) change the irinitalization order. There are some firmwares which offer you to scan different types of buses before others, but in the end it really boild down to "why does it matter"?20:39
scooterdTOMREYN my firefox has been weird all day now all favorits missing too20:40
furyi wish i knew why it mattered... i can't seem to get it to pick the 1 tb drive as the bootup drive20:40
tomreynscooterd: have you tried to reboot since?20:40
furyuefi yep20:40
furyboth are M.2 nvme drives, on the same card, which has 4 slots, 0-3...tried putting the 1tb in 0 and the 512gb in 1, and vice versa20:41
scooterdtomryen yes have restarted couple of times20:41
scabatheres probably a way to select the drive in your bios fury20:41
tomreynscooterd: what is the meaning of "says to ck connection when it is ok"?20:41
bilb_onowhat do you do when sudo doesn't work ? sudo rm -rf <Some dir>20:41
bilb_onopermission denied20:41
tomreynbilb_ono: you notice you weren't supposed to run this command in the first place and give up on it.20:42
scooterdtomryen internet is ok can browse but in pop up window says can't upload check internet connection20:42
tomreynscooterd: do you know how to work in a terminal?20:43
bilb_onotomreyn, but I dont want that directory there20:43
scooterdtomryen when trying to update ubuntu20:43
bilb_onoI want to remake it in fact20:43
tomreynbilb_ono: which ubuntu version are you running, which directory are you trying to delete, do you run in a containment or virtualization environment?20:43
scooterdtomryen newby but have before20:43
tomreynscooterd: please run this ina terminal and report the http address it returns here:  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)20:44
bilb_onoubuntu 18. Trying to delete :/mnt/c/main/FemtoTest/TowerLightSensor/trunk/TowerLightSensor. Running ubuntu in a Linux Shell on windows20:44
tomreynscooterd: please run this in a terminal and report the http address it returns here: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog20:45
tomreyn!yy.mm | bilb_ono20:45
ubottubilb_ono: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle20:45
tomreyn!wsl | bilb_ono20:45
ubottubilb_ono: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide20:45
jcottonbilb_ono: sudo in WSL doesn't mean anything to Widfows20:46
tomreynbilb_ono: the issue there will be that you are not allowed to delete this directory from WSL, you'll need to do this from within windows instead.20:46
jcottonyou can do it from WSL, but only if you start the shell as admin20:46
jcottonassuming needing admin is the issue here20:46
bilb_onoah interesting20:47
bilb_onoand lame20:47
tomreynwell, wrong channel anyways, please move to #wsl20:47
bilb_onook thanks20:47
tomreynat least for anything WSL specific20:47
jcottoncertain aspects of WSL are also topical in ##windows20:47
_genuser_jcotton: quit ubuntu'ing.20:47
scooterdtomryen forget how to get terminal up sorry20:47
jcottoni dualboot :P20:48
tomreynscooterd: ctrl-alt-t20:48
scooterdtomryen  sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog20:49
jcottonwhy the `sudo /bin/true`?20:50
tomreynjcotton: to have sudo cache the password.20:50
tomreynscooterd: this is not a terminal window20:51
scooterdtomryen https://termbin.com/3eurj20:51
tomreynscooterd: since my nickname is difficult to type correctely, you can just type "tomr", then press tab20:52
scooterdtomr ok20:52
tomreynscooterd: oh this does not seem to work on the web chat you're using. just ignore my remark then.20:53
tomreynscooterd: you didn't post the url produced by the first series of commands i posted, yet.20:53
tomreynscooterd: as a reminder, this was: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)20:54
deadmarshali have installed portaudio. how should i initialize it?20:56
scooterdtomreyn it wont produce a url ??20:57
soeeHi could you point me to some tutorial how can i resize my ext4 partition withoiut removeing it as it has live  data20:58
tomreynscooterd: does it report an error?20:58
furyi've managed to lock up the installer, woo. ubi-partman failed with exit code 141...20:59
OerHekssoee, resize as in making it larger, can be done with gparted. not smaller, that requires a live iso.20:59
furywhat it seems to come down to is that it does not like me telling it to set up LVM on the new drive while the old one is still there (upon which i did the same thing when i installed ubuntu there...)20:59
OerHeksand "live data " is no such thing on a HDD20:59
OerHekstip: always have a backup before doing somthing with partitions21:00
soeeOerHeks: i have VPS, m,y provider chnaged plan to bigger one. I have now 20 GB ext4 partition and i should be able now to resize it to 80 GB21:00
soeenow i wonder how can i do this21:01
scooterdtomreyn no it has  my system 18.04   and other  too no error code21:01
OerHekssoee, maybe your VPS vendor gives a admin panel, maybe from there? did you read their docs?21:01
furycool. now i can't even boot off the flash drive anymore O_o21:02
furyi have the worst luck21:02
tomreynscooterd: please run these commands and post the output to https://paste.ubuntu,com , then post the http address of it here:   lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline}21:02
furysomething something mmx64.efi not found21:02
furythen it shuts off21:02
soeeOerHeks: they pointed me to https://falstaff.agner.ch/2013/12/22/online-resize-root-filesystem-on-a-gpt-partition/21:03
tomreynfury: make sure you installation media was properly written, and before that, that your installer iso downloaded correctly21:03
furyit seemed to be. i used ubuntu's startup disk creator to write it, and for the first hour or two it's been booting up from the flash drive fine when it was in there21:03
tomreyn!md5 | fury21:03
ubottufury: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:03
tomreynfury: i usually use https://etcher.io to create bootable removable media from iso files21:04
tomreynit does a validation step after writing the iso.21:05
fury"Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed"21:05
furyhmm. guess i'll boot back up with the old drive and retry flashing it with etcher21:05
xamithansoee: What's wrong with that guide?  Looks fine unless you are using LVM21:06
bpromptfury:    when booting from an external drive, you'd need to let it shutdown completely by itself, if you ever forced a poweroff by simply holding-down the power button, that'd shut it off but many unwritten files will remain and the disk filesystem will be rendered broken or incomplete, thus unbootable21:06
OerHekssoee, that guide deletes data, try gparted? simply drag the partition endmarker wider over the unused space21:07
tomreynsoee: you won't get another warning on the need to have current and complete backups.21:07
scooterdtomreyn buntu 18.04.2 LTS cat: /proc/{version,cmdline: No such file or directory21:08
tomreynscooterd: you are not a professional at copy and paste. ;-)21:08
tomreynscooterd: thanks anyways, we'll go with what we have for now.21:09
tomreynscooterd: look at https://termbin.com/3eurj - what you posted earlier21:09
tomreynscooterd: right on top you see the output of "sudo apt update" - this reports an error (E:) and two warnings (W:). you need to fix these.21:10
tomreynscooterd: start with the error message21:10
soeeOerHeks: yup, i do not want to wipe my data out21:10
furynope, can't even boot from the original 512 gb drive now, same error "Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed"... wat21:11
tomreynscooterd: run    sudo apt update    now, and if you're happy with this change, accept it.21:12
tomreynfury: "mok" refers to secure boot. if secure boot is enabled, temporarily disabling it may help you boot.21:14
furyjust tried that, no go... seems my mistake was checking "Install third-party drivers" which required some key to be put in, but then because i couldn't finish the installation, it never managed to put that key manager anywhere21:14
tomreynfury: the key you entered there was probably the secure boot initialization / administration key, which ubuntu would have stored to your mainboard.21:16
scooterdtomreyn Processing was halted because there were too many errors.21:17
tomreynin the worst case, the installation failed while writing this key to the mainboards' persistent storage, in which case you'll probably not be able to boot any operating system until you reset the mainboard's seccure boot enrollment state.21:17
furyi don't see anything like that in the setup - just a simple on/off switch for secure boot21:18
tomreynfury: so you can still boot?21:19
tomreynscooterd: please post the entire output21:19
tomreynscooterd: alternatively, consider reinstalling21:19
furynope, secure boot off or on, same error message21:20
furydoesn't matter which drive i select, the flash drive or the 512 gb drive21:20
furythere is a legacy boot option but it seems to ignore that too21:20
tomreynfury: do you know which mainboard / computer model you have there?21:21
furydell precision 781021:21
scooterdtomreyn in paste bin now21:21
tomreynscooterd: okay, we'll need to url here21:22
tomreynfury: do you have another computer you can create an installer / livecd from?21:23
furyyes, downloading ubuntu again from a laptop21:23
furywhich also happens to be running ubuntu21:23
tomreynthere is this for precision 3520 / kaby lake *and later systems* https://www.dell.com/support/article/de/de/dedhs1/sln301692/no-boot-device-found-when-you-change-the-boot-sequence-to-legacy-mode?lang=en21:24
furyyeah, just got that error message now, which i guess makes sense because it was installed as a uefi boot not legacy mode21:25
scooterdtomreyn dont see any url in output ??21:25
tomreynscooterd: it's in the address bar of your web browser21:26
furyand i followed those same steps to turn uefi boot back on and that's when i get the "something has gone seriously wrong"21:26
scooterdtomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4y3zYpRQxx/21:26
tomreynfury: i searched the web for this message you posted previously - "Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state() failed" - but found nothing. maybe it's not actually a message printed by ubuntu / Linux but by the firmware. hard to tell.21:28
tomreynscooterd: take a backup and reinstall21:28
soeei used parted and resizepart command21:29
soeethan also resize2fs21:29
tomreynfury: which ubuntu version were you trying to install there?21:30
scooterdtomreyn is that like a back up on windows and where do i find that21:30
tomreynfury: .0, .1, .2?21:30
furysorry. just found this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1798171 looks like something's been fixed for it in 18.1021:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1798171 in debian-installer (Ubuntu Disco) "System fails to boot with \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi - Not Found" [High,Fix released]21:30
tomreyn!backup | scooterd21:31
ubottuscooterd: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning21:31
furyi don't know if my stuff will work in 18.10 or 19.04 but i suppose worth a shot21:31
donofriowhat channel would I goto to use TeX to perhaps remove a layer from a pdf?21:31
fury18.04 was what i was running previously, on the 512 gb drive, before i got the bright idea to install the new faster 1 tb drive21:32
furynever had that issue, i had the third party drivers and all21:32
tomreynfury: good find, this bug report. i'm still reading it.21:37
CodeMouse92Here's what seems to be a new weird phenomenon...21:38
furywhat could possibly go wrong on a friday at 3:00 when i get my new goodies from the IT department and i'm about to start a company blog? :D21:39
CodeMouse92My system password (Ubuntu 19.04...Budgie, although this has nothing to do with the DE AFAIK) keeps *randomly resertting*21:39
furyi'll just go ahead and install a new SSD and try and put ubuntu on it while i'm working on it and ...oh, now i've broken it completely21:39
CodeMouse92I set it back to what it is SUPPOSED to be via recovery mode, and it works for a while...21:39
CodeMouse92And then, it randomly stops working. I slow way down in typing to ensure there's no entry errors.21:40
CodeMouse92(Possibly unrelated, GPG keeps randomly timing out in local operations; if that's unrelated, I'll address it separately later.)21:40
CodeMouse92(aaaaaaaaaaand...password is back to working. Like I said, it goes in and out. Something's odd, and the GPG timeouts MAY be related)21:41
tomreynfury: so before you broke it completely, installing with secureboot disabled, from an ubuntu 18.04.2 alternative server installer *daily image*, should fix it.21:42
tomreynalternatively the latest current mini.iso21:43
ducasseCodeMouse92: anything in the logs, like disk errors?21:44
tomreynCodeMouse92: resetting to what? how do you recover it when the password resets?21:44
lighthunteris there a channel that would be good to ask about an Ubuntu/NVIDIA graphics card compatibility issue? specifically, when i upgraded from Ubuntu 18.10 to 19.04, i lost the ability to connect my laptop to an external monitor.21:45
CodeMouse92tomreyn: I honestly don't know WHAT it resets to. It fails, even if I double-check the password, c/p it, slow down, whatever. So, I have to reset it with recovery mode.21:45
CodeMouse92ducasse: Hmm. Good possibility. Remind me again where to find those?21:45
tomreynCodeMouse92: oh you use recovery mode to reset it aqfter it changed to a value you don't know, got it now.21:46
tomreynCodeMouse92: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999921:46
iamanewbieHow to fix over 100 file names? Example: https://i.snag.gy/HgaRFA.jpg21:46
ducasseCodeMouse92: journalctl or /var/log/syslog or kern.log21:46
tomreynlighthunter: here's a good place, but i won't personally be able to help.21:47
tomreyniamanewbie: /join #bash21:47
lighthunterty, tomreyn. any suggestions on which user might know or when to ask?21:47
CodeMouse92tomreyn: Yeah, I'll run that in a sec. nc didn't spit back the link (I've used that before)...21:47
lighthunteri realize it is a highly specialized question.21:48
tomreynlighthunter: any time you like really. can't recommend anyone specifically. if you get no replies on the first try, try again later21:48
CodeMouse92tomreyn: I had to dump the whole journalctl... -b doesn't play well with pipes. https://termbin.com/3o9i21:48
CodeMouse92ducasse: CC ^^^^21:48
lighthunterhe he, fair enough; will do.21:48
tomreynCodeMouse92: normally piping   journalctl -b    works fine, but termbin.com will close the connection after some seconds, maybe it took to long to read the log.21:50
tomreynso this is a W65_67SZ notebook, BIOS 1.03.06RNS1 07/28/201421:51
CodeMouse92tomreyn: "Time out" seems to be the theme of the day, TBH. Which is weird. HDD has no bad sectors, I'm running 12GB RAM on a quad-core, 8-thread i7. ("New" computer). Timeout should not be a thing here.21:51
tomreynthe log states that the bios is broken, you should look for a bios update21:52
CodeMouse92tomreyn: Uhm...well, that would be weird, because I literally JUST got this back from Sys76 two days ago.21:52
CodeMouse92New motherboard, tested extensively21:52
CodeMouse92Fresh OS install, too21:52
tomreyni'm just telling you what i rea don your log.21:53
tomreynApr 18 11:38:25 tardis kernel: Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0!21:54
tomreyn                               BIOS vendor: American Megatrends Inc.; Ver: 1.03.06RNS1; Product Version: Not Applicable21:54
CodeMouse92tomreyn: Fair enough. Seeing it now, I think you can ignore that. I hit a couple of obstacles with an old install.21:54
CodeMouse92So, that was probably leftover from the OS knowing the old bios, seeing something new, and having a snit. It wasn't even seeing the 8 threads.21:55
tomreynCodeMouse92: that's the latest boot log you posted, though21:55
CodeMouse92Ah...hm. Why is the date off by one?21:55
tomreynbecause you tried to post ALL logs, not just the latest boot (-b)21:55
cuddylierDoes anyone know why if I X11 forward an application from a docker container to the host system via SSH, it's actually quicker than opening the application directly on the host? I'm using Xfce for the GUI on the Ubuntu 18.04 host.21:56
tomreynand then it got cut off21:56
CodeMouse92It's 19 April here...21:56
CodeMouse92tomreyn: OH! Fair, okay, let me see...21:56
CodeMouse92and NOW nc behaves21:56
CodeMouse92tomreyn, ducasse: try this. -b worked now: https://termbin.com/5vvv21:56
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CodeMouse92Hm. Still "broken"...which, like I said, is alarming since I JUST got this back from System76 with a fresh mobo21:57
tomreynCodeMouse92: the mainboard is probably fine, just the firmware isnt21:58
CodeMouse92Ugh, there goes the password again22:01
CodeMouse92GPG has been trying to generate entropy this whole time too :\22:01
tomreynCodeMouse92: DMAR is DMA (direct memory access) request remapping. this is done as a security measure by the IOMMU (input/output memory management unit). on some firmware you can choose to disable IOMMU, thus the protection, and thus DMAR. not safe in the long run, but it could work around these issues. on the other hand, i think linux is already disabling DMAR in this situation, keeping IOMMU intact, which is safer.22:02
tomreynCodeMouse92: you also have ACPI warninrgs there.22:03
CodeMouse92Well, I would DEARLY like to check for firmware updates, but the password just fritzed again22:03
CodeMouse92tomreyn: BRB, restarting darned computer22:04
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CodeMouse92tomreyn: Back. i had to reset the password AGAIN22:13
CodeMouse92Something's definitely wrong here. Even the keyring does this22:13
tomreynCodeMouse92: you have what looks like physical storage errors at Apr 19 09:50:56 tardis kernel: ata6.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x83c78080 SErr 0x50000 action 0x6 frozen22:13
tomreynalso you have gdbus failing, but this may be a side effect:  Apr 19 09:54:13 tardis kernel: gdbus[11456]: segfault22:14
CodeMouse92tomreyn: What, failing harddrive?22:14
furyso i reflashed 18.04.2 with etcher and same deal. in the "crazy hackjob" department, i've simply renamed grubx64.efi to mmx64.efi on the 18.04.2 flash drive, i am back in the ubuntu installer, and my 1 TB drive is now showing up as the first drive, only, i'm just getting an "Installation type" -> "Select drive" loop...goes back to installation type asking me whether i want to erase disk and install Ubuntu22:14
furyi am flashing another USB drive with 19.04 and will try that if i can't get this going soon...22:14
OerHeksCodeMouse92, why not fix the bios update first?22:14
CodeMouse92OerHeks: I have no idea how. I'm trying the System76 firmware updater now...22:15
tomreynCodeMouse92: that's what it looks like. boot from a liveusb and run    sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda ; sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda22:15
CodeMouse92But if the BIOS is screwed up, that's on THEM, not me. I paid enough money22:15
Bashing-omfury: "check disk for defects" ?22:15
OerHeksCodeMouse92, oh, then it is our problem now :-D22:15
tomreynCodeMouse92: do the bioss update from the live usb, too, this current installation is not reliable22:15
* CodeMouse92 weeps22:17
furyBashing-om: it seems to have an issue with the LVM i attempted to put on it during a previous install, it won't let me do anything with the partition table, and i can't get a terminal open from the installer either22:17
furyctrl+alt+f2 to the rescue22:17
tomreynfury: 18.04.2 release won't work, you'll need the latest current build22:17
CodeMouse92tomreyn: It's highly unlikely there's a BIOS update to be had, honestly...22:17
CodeMouse92They did that when it was in22:17
tomreynfury: told you above ;)22:18
furyi tried to find that and i couldn't see where to download anything newer than .2 for 18.0422:18
furyunless you mean 19.04 is the latest current build i need to try22:18
tomreynso instead of asking you decided to use the one whic wouldnt work?22:18
mike802updates are typically fixes.  if you're confused about what's being updated, you might want ot visit forums or contact a support/dev team22:18
furyyeah, i was trying one of the earlier suggestions of reflashing with etcher first22:19
furyall the dailies point to 19.04, is that the one you mean?22:19
mike802fury: corruption...22:19
CodeMouse92OerHeks: I already know about that. Done, and nothing22:19
tomreynfury: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current/22:19
CodeMouse92Checked, that is22:19
CodeMouse92No updates available22:19
furywhew. dunno why i couldn't find that one O_o thanks!22:20
CodeMouse92I'll restart into LIVE and check the hard drive, but SMART tests have been passing, soooooooooo22:20
CodeMouse92BRB :(22:20
tomreynfury: but actually we only know the debian-installer is fixed, so maybe let's use that instead.22:20
furytomreyn: debian installer, as in the graphical thing that comes up after booting the live USB?22:22
furyoh that one22:22
tomreynwait, no22:22
tomreynthat's live22:22
tomreynfury: ^ this22:23
furytomreyn: is that still going to have the desktop environment? this's a workstation meant for Qt app development among other things (a CI runner)22:24
tomreynfury: thsi is the classic server installer. you can install the desktop from it either after installation by running   "apt install ubuntu-desktop" or by selecting the ubuntu-desktop ttarget during installation (may be better in terms of usability)22:24
furyah ok22:24
furythanks, will download and try that22:24
tomreynfury: i would very much recommend a firmware upgrade to you as well. the ubuntu changelog statement was very polite but indirectly suggests this can be a firmware error. also this seems to only affect certain dell models.22:29
furymakes sense - i don't think i've updated the firmware on this thing at all22:29
furycouple years old :X22:29
jcottonif an in-OS firmware updater doesn't work then you can also do an update from the BIOS22:30
jcottonat least, supposedly22:30
oil_boihow do I enable the ubuntu login sound? :D22:32
oil_boiOr is there a way to make startup sounds via the mac style bong during startup22:32
tomreynjcotton: this really depends a lot on the firmware in my experience.22:32
tomreyndo you know about this model / series? dell precision 781022:32
jcottonI have an XPS22:33
jcottonso no22:33
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oil_boiAlso, how do I cast to my samsung tv like in Windows 10's connect to wireless display?22:34
jcottonseems to be the page for it tho https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/precision-t7810-workstation/manuals22:34
jcottonoil_boi: that uses Miracast22:34
jcottonyou need a compatible WiFi card22:34
oil_boijcotton, but I could do it through the LAN with my standard ethernet on windows 10??22:35
tomreynfury: oh look, dell released a firmware upgrade on apr 09 "Fixed an issue with Secure Boot Option Rom Signature Verification."22:35
furyHAHAHA i just saw that22:35
jcottondon't think Miracast works over Ethernet22:35
jcottonfury: according to dell f12 will bring up a boot menu22:36
jcottonan update option would be there, if anywhere22:36
jcottonBIOS on this page https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/precision-t7810-workstation/drivers22:36
jcottonalso says you can install from DOS22:37
furyhmm. don't have dos handy22:37
jcottonFreeDOS might work22:37
jcottonbut try that F12 bit22:38
jcottonmy XPS knows how to get the image out of the exe22:38
fury18.04.2 managed to install with my hackjobbed flash drive that had grubx64.efi renamed to mmx64.efi...now wondering if i should touch it at all or just leave it22:38
furystill gonna try to update teh bios tho22:39
tomreynfury: you need a usb drive with a fat32 file system on the first partition, and the .exe file on it. the firmware should be able to flash from that when you press F12 at the dell boot logo screen.22:40
furyyep, bios flash update in the boot menu, woohoo22:41
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tomreyndell also supports mainboard firmware upgrades from linux on some hardware. not sure they support yours.22:42
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furydoesn't seem so, didn't spot a linux download from the downloads page. no biggie tho. it's updating now22:42
furyyeesh. 3 hours later, updated bios, and a working ubuntu install, simple as that22:43
furythink i'm just gonna not touch secure boot with a 10 foot pole22:43
tomreynfirmware is no different than software. don't use early releases for longer than strictly necessary.22:44
jcottonUbuntu works pretty well with SB22:44
tomreynCodeMouse92: how's your firmware + HDD coming?22:46
CodeMouse92tomreyn: Terrible.22:46
CodeMouse92tomreyn: HDD is fine. No problems. Passed test22:47
CodeMouse92Firmware update fails, can't even recognize this machine.22:47
CodeMouse92Same errors in journalctl -b from LIVE22:47
CodeMouse92Contacted system76, back to waiting.....again.....................22:47
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tomreynhmm, that's not ideal. this could also be broken memory modules. i didn't check, but if you have mutliple you could do some cross checking there as well. or just have system76 handle it.22:49
tomreynCodeMouse92: so you sis the short smart check on the hdd and waited for it to complete?22:49
tomreynsis -> did22:50
tomreyni had expected this to take longer22:50
CodeMouse92tomreyn: y22:50
CodeMouse92tomreyn: Nope. Short test is 2 minutes. (I do those a lot.)22:52
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CodeMouse92Long test is about 11 hours (ha). Not really needed here, I was using this same HDD in the last laptop, checked it regularly.22:52
tomreynCodeMouse92: oh that short, i wasn't aware, i always do the long ones ;)22:52
CodeMouse92Heh, yeah. I think the fact that journalctl is the same rules it out, TBH22:52
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CodeMouse92So, really, no grounds to spend 11 hours, since everything else is the same in logs on LIVE22:53
tomreynfor the HDD, right?22:53
tomreynnot the USB flash.22:53
CodeMouse92tomreyn: Yes22:53
CodeMouse92tomreyn: Yeah, data recovery and hard drive stuff is part and parcel for me, over here. I fix a lot of older computers22:54
CodeMouse92This is definitely NOT the HDD :(22:55
tomreyni see. well, good luck on this.22:55
CodeMouse92tomreyn: In terms of the passwords, here's a weird tidbit....22:55
CodeMouse92The deterioration time...how long until the password stops working at random...is longer the shorter the password is.22:56
CodeMouse92So, a 35 character password "dies" in about 10 minutes.22:56
CodeMouse92A 25 in about 30 minutes22:56
CodeMouse92And a 15 in about 2 hours22:56
CodeMouse92Roughly guesstimating here22:57
tomreynCodeMouse92: let's move to a different channel for hardware chatting, such as #ubuntu-offtopic22:57
CodeMouse92Well...it's not really a hardware chat, BUT, yeah, sure22:57
dont-panicanyone in here familiar with sox?23:01
lotuspsychjedont-panic: its best to ask your full issue about it to the channel with all details23:03
dont-paniclotuspsychje: Probably, but if someone's not familiar with sox, they're likely not going to have incountered this issue...23:05
dont-panicI'm trying to split vinyl recordings with sox and it's a pain for albums like Elictric Light Orchestra - Time, due to the fading from one to the next factor.  Trying to find a way to do it anyways23:06
lotuspsychjedont-panic: maybe the ubuntu studio channel might be a good place to hang also for music related23:09
dont-paniclotuspsychje: I have a feeling that what i've got is close enough for most ablums and I'll have to do albums like dark side of the moon etc by hand23:09
icemaidenI have ubuntu 16.04 unity, and 3 displays ..is it possible to mirror 2 of the 3 dispays only?23:36
icemaidenif so, how please?23:36
tomreynicemaiden: i don't know how or whether you can do this with the drivers and graphics hardware you may or may not have. but maybe give it another try on 18.04, too.23:47
miaHey channel23:50
miahow can I exit the gui session completely go to a terminal from ubuntu23:50
miaI would like to test the limits of my single poor gpu and I think having no GUI could help23:51
mia(would it?)23:51
xamithan"systemctl set-default multi-user.target" and a reboot should do it23:54
xamithanset it again to graphical.target when you want gui back23:54
miaoh thanks23:55
xamithanOr if you want to just test it once,  systemctl isolate multi-user.target23:55

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