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lubot<HMollerCl> created a new topic in discourse for UbuConLa, please a moderator could look at it and approve it or give me his comments?01:35
lubot<SamuelBanya> Does anyone have the link for the iso download page?01:46
lubot<SamuelBanya> I got it from the front page01:46
lubot<SamuelBanya> Nevermind01:47
lubot<Sunny_D_Roger> Sunny Singh: … Help me … Removed qtermwidget5-data … Now WiFi not working … The system boots directly into lubuntu … Shows 3dots in bottom … On boot shows … Loading 5.0.0.20 generic … Initialising ramdisk … And boots directly … Can't use WiFi tried or ethernet … Tried everything can't use live USB too … Since I can't open grub m11:24
lubotenu or windows bootloader11:24
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#145715:50
wxl@tsimonq2: confused by this whole change you made to CI wiki. are you saying that if the repos are on version 1 of some package, but upstream releases version 2, that the stable ci will have version 2 in despite the fact that phabricator is still on 1 (and the archive on 1 or less)?16:55
lubot<kc2bez> No stable CI is a separate branch in phab16:56
lubot<kc2bez> It will have whatever you package16:57
lubot<kc2bez> In the stable CI branch16:57
lubot<kc2bez> Independent of upstream or the archive16:57
wxlso stable CI *is* latest upstream release?16:58
lubot<kc2bez> If that is what we merge/push then yes16:58
wxlbut he edited out the part where i said stable is related to the phab repos so i'm confused16:59
lubot<kc2bez> I haven't read his edits. Hang on.17:00
* wxl cries17:00
kc2bezLooking at the diff and the way I understand it you are both right.17:02
kc2bezStable gets what is defined in the packaging on the stable branch in phabricator.17:03
wxl[m]Confusing change then17:03
wxl[m]Seems like a wordy way of describing things17:04
kc2bezAdmittedly I have been trying to wrap my head around it all too. I am glad you started the conversation and documentation.17:08
lubot<RikMills> is usb creator kde tested in Eoan?18:20
lubot<kc2bez> @RikMills [is usb creator kde tested in Eoan?], Yes.18:27
lubot<kc2bez> @kc2bez [Yes.], https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5118:29
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix usb-creator-kde: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5118:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: About your answer here: … https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/19-04-megathread/24/74 … When you take the issue of small screensize to upstream, do point me to the bug you file or the thread you create. Window resizing is a big issue for small screens.18:41
lynorianis the usb-creator sru no where near done19:29
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd4f7ade6b24e: Add keyobard shortcut to quit] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd4f7ade6b24e20:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd240ceaf3abc: Add undocking docks] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd240ceaf3abc20:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL896cec1147cb: Add redock a dock in qpdfview] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL896cec1147cb20:05
lubot<tsimonq2> (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/edECmDj.jpg20:16
lubot<tsimonq2> (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/QLIEJj6.jpg20:16
lubot<tsimonq2> (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/dyOPjrB.jpg20:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Anyone want a bitesize bug to fix?20:16
wxl@tsimonq2: create a task22:24
wxl@tsimonq2: also see above. @kc2bez and i are still confused about your edits on the CI22:24
wxl@tsimonq2: and nevermind. don't create a task. it's already fixed https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS25c5f3c7e4795ba15fff89a9168cd78ace810b4822:25
wxl@lynorian_: (and perhaps RikMills since he brought the subject up) the usb-creator(-kde) SRU has been sponsored for xenial, bionic and disco. at least that's what the bug comment says. it doesn't seem to follow the normal procedure, though. it hasn't been uploaded from what i can tell and the usual verification-needed tag isn't there22:30
wxlit seems we're stuck in unapproved still22:37
wxla motu/sponsor reviewed it but they're not a member of ubuntu-sru so that's kind of a problem22:37
wxl@HMollerCl i remember you struggled long and hard about the SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN thing in LibreOffice. upstream's making some changes to it, so if you could provide any recommendations on how we might work with those changes, that would be appreciated. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-session/pull/278#issuecomment-51345523122:46
ubot93Pull 278 in lxqt/lxqt-session "Added SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=qt5" [Open]22:46
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl i remember you struggled long and hard about the SAL_USE_VCLPLU …], will look at it. Last time I used it lo upstream said it was not ready, had lots of bugs22:48
wxl@HMollerCl that seems to be what agaida is suggesting there, but i'm no expert22:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T22: Bring those swaps back] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T22#145822:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T90: Bionic locker should be light-locker] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T90#145922:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a0ba0ac7e16: Add keybaord shortcut for next previous shortcut results] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a0ba0ac7e1623:18
lubot<kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: and nevermind. don't create a task. it's already fixed https:// …], Seriously, what version were they running to get that error?23:27
wxl@kc2bez: probably cosmic. remember, it just died.23:29
wxlspeaking of support, who wants to fix our release cycle chart? https://lubuntu.me/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/18.10.png23:30
wxl@kc2bez: let me clarify. it just died on cdimage. 23:32
lubot<kc2bez> I get it. Why are people still trying to install it?23:32
wxlcuz they can find it23:33
wxlalso lubuntu.net23:33
lubot<kc2bez> Gahh!23:33
wxlomg the (insert expletive here) has an 32-bit link for 18.10 and a 64-bit link for 19.0423:34
wxlthis is the sort of stuff we dealt with far too often that ultimately led us to make lubuntu.me23:34
wxlthe downloads page only lists 19.04 and 16.04 https://lubuntu.net/downloads/23:36
lubot<kc2bez> Ugh.23:37
wxlif you click the link to become a developer for lubuntu you're led instead to mellix https://github.com/fossasia/meilix23:37
wxlcute but it's not lubuntu https://meilix-generator.herokuapp.com/23:39
lubot<tsimonq2> ack, .23:42
lubot<tsimonq2> (CI)23:42
wxlwell that clarifies everything23:43
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @lynorian_: (and perhaps RikMills since he brought the subject up) the usb …], https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates?action=show&redirect=StableReleaseUpdate#Publishing23:43
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> well that clarifies everything], I hope you're serious.23:43
wxl@tsimonq2: no, "ack" as a response to "we're confused" doesn't clarify anything.23:44
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: no, "ack" as a response to "we're confused" doesn't clarify any …], See the wiki23:45
wxl@tsimonq2: also that's not relevant because the verification-needed hasn't been added yet. that said, vorlon told me it's normal and they'll get to it i guess.23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ci/23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: also that's not relevant because the verification-needed hasn't …], It's absolutely relevant, verification-needed is added when the upload is accepted and processed to go into -proposed.23:45
wxl@tsimonq2: the specific section you linked to is related to those SRUs which have verification-done. we're not even there yet.23:46
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: the specific section you linked to is related to those SRUs whi …], They're the SRU people those days anyway23:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Monday it should be processed23:47
wxl@tsimonq2: well you're providing information that's not in that document. what i said still holds: this situation is not documented.23:48
wxl@tsimonq2: CI: totally clarified, though i'd modify the example with a real package example. include direct links to the repo and the various branches. then it will make total sense. that's probably the biggest part i didn't get.23:50
wxl@tsimonq2: why remove the times? and the idea of running a vm with git master on it?23:51
wxli guess you have the times.. they're just a little less directly stated23:52
wxland they're hidden away23:52
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: As long as you get the concept now, you're more than welcome to add documentation. That's all I can do right now given my limited time; I'll be back soon but I wanted to get something started.23:52
wxlyou've been reading ubuntu wiki pages too much X'D23:52
wxlppas are missing too23:53
wxlthanks for the start23:53
lubot<tsimonq2> My pleasure. Good to unwind for 30 minutes before going back into $work23:54
lubot<tsimonq2> Like I said before though, when I come back I'll totally be able to do CI ISOs like the back of my hand23:55
lubot<tsimonq2> Because that's what this is23:55
wxland yikes that example phew23:55
lubot<tsimonq2> It's a mouthful23:56
lubot<tsimonq2> Does it make sense though?23:56
wxlthe first part yes23:56
wxlthe last part is a mind bender23:56
wxlit probably needs to be reworded heavily until it's clear23:56
wxlwriting for beginners would help, i think23:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Imagine the first three paragraphs is one thing, you upload that, and paragraph four is a subsequent upload.23:57
lubot<tsimonq2> This is basically KCI with some tweaks, so @RikMills could help clarify this.23:58
lubot<tsimonq2> It works the exact same way in terms of merger jobs and stable vs unstable23:58
lubot<tsimonq2> @kc2bez ^ are you on the same page as wxl in terms of understanding the new documentation?23:59

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