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ubptgbot<malditobastardo> It will be included in the next release00:19
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Now you can only receive it00:19
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Afaik it wasn't working as intended -yet-00:19
ubptgbotkewai was added by: kewai00:35
ubptgbot<kewai> Hi00:35
ubptgbot<kewai> Ubuntu touch work on Meizu M5?00:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> @kewai [Ubuntu touch work on Meizu M5?], No, only mx4 and pro500:52
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @malditobastardo [Afaik it wasn't working as intended -yet-], ok, thanks01:44
ubptgbotTcg_84 was added by: Tcg_8403:17
ubptgbot<Flohack> @malditobastardo [Afaik it wasn't working as intended -yet-], Correct, we had to postpone it. Too many issues with UT location, sorry to say ;)06:26
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @UniversalSuperBox [Oh my gosh it feels so much better], I'm so happy especially that I reported the bug 😁07:18
ubptgbotAhoora was added by: Ahoora07:19
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ubptgbot<Ahoora> [Edit] Sell member for group and chanell … Follower for instagram … fake number  … And everything that you want😘 … For buy come to PV07:22
ubptgbot<Marcos> Guys, thanks for the new rc image and the teleports update!!09:38
ubptgbot<markvesime> can you paste this into your browser https:appr.tc/r/Trial10:01
ubptgbot<markvesime> sorry forgot the //, so https://10:03
ubptgbot<advocatux> It seems that project "is currently on HOLD with minimal maintenance" (https://github.com/webrtc/apprtc)10:34
ubptgbotBetter_call_Saul_TF was added by: Better_call_Saul_TF10:59
ubptgbot<markvesime> I just tried apprtc, didn't work to an iphone, worked on a ipad but quality was bad. My nexus 5 got very warm after 5 mins11:02
ubptgbot<Gus> Would it be possible to password protect the launching of specific apps? I want to give a UT phone to a child.13:39
ubptgbot<Gus> Something similar to this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/445145/password-for-apps?r=SearchResults13:39
ubptgbot<mateosalta> that sounds cool14:11
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I bet someone could make an app to do that14:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> you'd need to implement it on the system side14:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Gus [Would it be possible to password protect the launching of specific apps? I want …], currently it is not possible, as the pieces necessary to do that are not implemented; but if someone wanted to write the code, it would be doable14:42
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [Would it be possible to password protect the launching of specific apps? I want …], One ugly hack I've tested is changing file permissions for apps. It works and could be put into a custom script to enable/disable.14:43
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [Would it be possible to password protect the launching of specific apps? I want …], [Edit] One ugly hack I've tried out is changing file permissions for apps. It works and could be put into a custom script to enable/disable.14:44
ubptgbotAlejandro was added by: Alejandro14:52
ubptgbot<Gus> @dohbee [currently it is not possible, as the pieces necessary to do that are not impleme …], How simple would that be? My knowledge is minimal but I'm willing to learn15:15
ubptgbot<Gus> I'll try the hack for now15:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Gus [How simple would that be? My knowledge is minimal but I'm willing to learn], not simple. it would require changes to multiple components, and introducing some new UI15:21
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [I'll try the hack for now], One second, I'll dig it out.15:22
ubptgbot<Gus> OK. Well, it would be a useful feature to see at some point. Maybe I'll submit a feature request15:22
ubptgbot<pillsmansion> (Photo, 700x450) https://irc.ubports.com/VG5UwCdZ.png15:26
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [OK. Well, it would be a useful feature to see at some point. Maybe I'll submit a …], So you'd need to start by enabling read-write on the rootfs. You can do that with the tweak tool.15:27
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> Then taking the ActiveScreen app as an example:15:27
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> ```sudo chmod 0700 /opt/click.ubuntu.com/activescreen.mivoligo/```15:30
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> That would stop the app running (haven't tested in great detail); to reset it:15:30
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> ```sudo chmod 0755 /opt/click.ubuntu.com/activescreen.mivoligo/```15:30
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> If that worked out as required, you could make a script working through the apps you'd like to disable or enable, running that with a single command.15:31
ubptgbot<Gus> Thanks, that's great. I'll give it a go.15:32
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> How many apps are you looking at?15:33
ubptgbot<Gus> Probably just morph and the open store15:33
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> And obviously, you locate the apps under: `/opt/click.ubuntu.com/`.15:33
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> Morph is under that directory (it's not installed as a `.click`).  OpenStore should work, though.15:34
ubptgbot<Gus> Where would I find morph? Or would it just not work?15:39
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [Where would I find morph? Or would it just not work?], ```sudo chmod 0700 /usr/bin/morph-browser```15:41
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> And to reset: … ```sudo chmod 0755 /usr/bin/morph-browser```15:41
ubptgbot<Gus> Thank you very much15:42
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [Thank you very much], OpenStore appears to be elsewhere as well: … ```sudo chmod 0700 /usr/share/click/preinstalled/openstore.openstore-team … sudo chmod 0755 /usr/share/click/preinstalled/openstore.openstore-team```15:44
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> Those would be the disable and enable respectively ^.15:44
ubptgbot<Gus> OK. Got it15:46
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> [Edit] Morph is not under that directory (it's not installed as a `.click`).  OpenStore should work, though.15:46
ubptgbot<Gus> Worked like a charm15:52
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [Worked like a charm], Great, but make sure you can re-enable it, first!15:53
ubptgbot<Gus> All good. Back to normal15:56
ubptgbot<Gus> Many thanks15:56
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Gus [Many thanks], You're welcome.16:03
ubptgbot<advocatux> Gus Jade Diamond is a browser with parental control … https://open-store.io/app/jadediamond.bhdouglass16:18
ubptgbot<GTAHTI> would be nice if can call with telegram, probly  gona change to lineage to get all apps and functions.16:19
ubptgbotRonaldo was added by: Ronaldo16:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> ok16:31
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @TotalSonic https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2962/pure-maps-navigation-port17:37
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @malditobastardo [@TotalSonic https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2962/pure-maps-navigation-port], wish I had the knowledge to make a click for this.  I can contribute to a bounty for a.developer's time for this though.17:45
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Yeah me too17:50
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> For sure someone will jump to help him soon17:50
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> @imraniqbal [Those would be the disable and enable respectively ^.], I feel like making a GUI for this would be trivial, I would do it if I had any kind of coding skills17:57
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Hi, can someone help me with clickable, please? I'm obviously missing something very stupid that I just can't find out. … - I create direcctory using "clickable create" -- works … - I change into the new directory and run "clickable click-build" --works … - I run "clickable publish" -- NOT works. It says "App not found"  … All comm18:00
ubptgbotands have my API-key provided via --api-key. … What am I missing?18:00
ubptgbot<Gus> @advocatux [Gus Jade Diamond is a browser with parental control … https://open-store.io/app/ja …], Yes, I had a look at that. The problem is morph is still there for them to use (or comes back with an OTA if you remove it) And they'll know their own password, so the jade browser won't really restrict them...18:05
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @ruedigerkupper [Hi, can someone help me with clickable, please? I'm obviously missing something …], I can create the app using the web interface but that can't be the right way?18:10
ubptgbot<mateosalta> maybe once the namespace is created you can then setup for updating it?18:13
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @Malteo Salta … Are you referning to me? Yes, I can "create" the App via open--store.io and afterwaards update it using clickable from my client. But obviously clickable should provide a way of registering yourt app with the open store. Without th user doing that manually in the web.18:17
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> I believe "clickable create --api-key=…" should do that?18:19
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @Tygerpro [I feel like making a GUI for this would be trivial, I would do it if I had any k …], I wouldn't rely on this method to solve this problem, there will be a better way.  Not to mention, it leaves the app visible but "frozen".18:20
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> Thats essentially how android does it, ideally creating a seperate user and symlinking apps would prob be the best strategy18:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> no symlinking, but multi-user would be optimal yes. though you'd still need appropriate admin controls for things.18:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> making multi-user work on phones is going to be an incredibly huge amount of work though18:23
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @ruedigerkupper [I believe "clickable create --api-key=…" should do that?], I need to create a matching application with the exact same name via open-store.io before i can publish my app. This can't be the recvommended way of publishing an app with clickable?18:25
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ruedigerkupper [I need to create a matching application with the exact same name via open-store. …], Maybe it's worth asking about this in the OpenStore room.  Do you want the link?18:26
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Oh, yes, please, thank you very much.18:27
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ruedigerkupper [Oh, yes, please, thank you very much.], Sent it to you by DM.18:29
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Got it, thanks!18:30
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> You're welcome.18:30
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @myii sorry, your link is broken. Try following it from Ubuntu Phone, it's np good. Stuck in an endless redirect cycle.18:46
ubptgbot<hummlbach> @ruedigerkupper [@myii sorry, your link is broken. Try following it from Ubuntu Phone, it's np go …], El classico 😋18:47
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> [Edit] @myii sorry, your link is broken. Try following it from Ubuntu Phone, it's no good. Stuck in an endless redirect cycle.18:49
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> @dohbee [making multi-user work on phones is going to be an incredibly huge amount of wor …], We cant do it through terminal like ubuntu server?18:50
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @Johannes Renkl Sorry, what do you imply? I asked for help on this channel like I did times before and always got very competent answers.18:51
ubptgbot<hummlbach> Sorry, wasn't ment to criticize you, its a bug in morph what you experience there...18:57
ubptgbot<hummlbach> Can you open the link with another browser on your pc/laptop?18:57
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ruedigerkupper [@Johannes Renkl Sorry, what do you imply? I asked for help on this channel like …], I've sent the new link by DM.18:57
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Oh, well, sorry. Just asking for help with clickable. Sure there's someone here.18:58
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @myii Sorry, your link is not helpful. It just leads to the open store main page. If you can't help me I'm sorry and thankful, but please do not provide further broken links. Thank you.19:01
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ruedigerkupper [@myii Sorry, your link is not helpful. It just leads to the open store main page …], The link to the Telegram group is on that page.19:01
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ruedigerkupper [@myii Sorry, your link is not helpful. It just leads to the open store main page …], Look under the `Contact` heading.19:02
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @myii Sorry, I really o appreciate your helpfulness, but the links you post all are broken. Please review the way you do cummunicate on this channel. … Love to here from you again in the future. Regards.19:09
ubptgbot<dtarrant> Many thanks to the devs who fixed the camera orientation issue which was affecting my BQ Aquaris M10 HD. Working nicely now. 😀🐧19:09
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> [Edit] @myii Sorry, I really do appreciate your helpfulness, but the links you post all are broken. Please review the way you do cummunicate on this channel. … Love to here from you again in the future. Regards.19:09
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> Out of curiosity, once installed, does anyone have any troubles with UT?19:09
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> [Edit] @myii Sorry, I really do appreciate your helpfulness, but the links you post all are broken. Please review the way you do cummunicate on this channel. … Love to heear from you again in the future. Regards.19:10
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ruedigerkupper [@myii Sorry, I really do appreciate your helpfulness, but the links you post all …], Are you kidding?  You can't open https://open-store.io/about?19:10
ubptgbotKamouflage was added by: Kamouflage19:10
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> I have had it a wholle 3.5 days and no issues :)19:10
ubptgbotAugusty24 was added by: Augusty2419:11
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @imraniqbal [Are you kidding?  You can't open https://open-store.io/about?], It only opens the open store maain page. That's no help with my problem. Sorry. Regards.19:12
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @ruedigerkupper [It only opens the open store maain page. That's no help with my problem. Sorry. …], The Telegram group is at the bottom of every page, "Chat with us on Telegram". I can also link you to the app development channel if you like.19:15
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @ruedigerkupper [It only opens the open store maain page. That's no help with my problem. Sorry. …], OK, I've just tested it with the Telegram Webapp and both of those links work.19:15
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @UniversalSuperBox [The Telegram group is at the bottom of every page, "Chat with us on Telegram". I …], I've already linked to that in the DM.19:15
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Interesting that you can't open the about page. Maybe something is stuck in the browser cache.19:15
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> Not sure why that didn't work.19:15
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Then again, clicking t.me links from the browser doesn't open Telegram. Maybe that's what's going on19:15
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @UniversalSuperBox [The Telegram group is at the bottom of every page, "Chat with us on Telegram". I …], Anything which opens in Morph does that.  However, use Telegram on a computer or use the Telegram Webapp and then it opens successfully.19:16
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> @UniversalSuperBox [The Telegram group is at the bottom of every page, "Chat with us on Telegram". I …], Thank you. I'm looking for help wit clickable and the open store. Can you refer me to the riight place? Best regaards.19:16
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Oh wait I can just add you to the open room @ruedigerkupper. Is that okay with you?19:16
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> I don't know hat that means, but it's probably okay.19:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You still won't get an instant answer and some things to try might not work.19:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There19:18
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> ???19:18
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Look at your group list. You are in the OpenStore group.19:18
ubptgbot<ruedigerkupper> Oh, sorry. Yes, thank you!19:19
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> Hey, I just had a thought. Is there a number of how many people are running UT?19:20
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There is not19:20
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> I shalll start counting them then.19:20
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> OK, me, 1, you, 219:21
ubptgbot<dtarrant> And me!19:21
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> oh, yes, of course. 319:22
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Um, okay... In all seriousness, we've discussed it before but we don't have a good way to get reliable active user numbers in a way that can be somewhat accurate and sufficiently respectful.19:22
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> We can ask the push server how many connections it has open, but not all users use an app which connects to the push service.19:22
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> Always going a to be a guesstimate.19:23
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> I might have missed a reply, but does anyone have any problems once UT is installed?19:24
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> (not through user error)19:24
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The way the system behaves depends on how you use it and what you expect from it. It's not possible to give a good blanket answer for that19:25
ubptgbot<dtarrant> Teleports says the Supergroup has more than two thousand members!19:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Indeed, however not all of them use Ubuntu Touch19:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And a non-negligible percentage is probably made up of spambots19:26
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> Do you have a personall Guesstimate Dalton?19:26
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> (apologies, my kb keeps double typing L)19:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Nope, the data is not reliable enough19:27
ubptgbot<dtarrant> @UniversalSuperBox [Indeed, however not all of them use Ubuntu Touch], How do you know that?19:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee does not use Ubuntu Touch daily, only for testing. The requirement is satisfied. :)19:27
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> Is there anything numpties like me can do to help with testing? Or is it just a case of feeding back if anything occurs?19:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> If you're interested, @ubports_qa_team is where developers and users alike ask for people with specific devices or interests to test things19:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It moves a little slower than this room, so it's a little easier to catch19:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Larger requests for testing (I realize I should have used this not long ago) can go in the OS section on the forum — https://forums.ubports.com/category/34/os19:30
ubptgbot<dtarrant> @UniversalSuperBox [@dohbee does not use Ubuntu Touch daily, only for testing. The requirement is sa …], Graham said 'running'; he didn't mention 'daily'.19:30
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> lol19:31
ubptgbotmohadip was added by: mohadip19:31
ubptgbot<mohadip> hi19:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There are also the people who join and ask if their device is supported, in those cases they probably are not running Ubuntu Touch19:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hello @mohadip19:31
ubptgbot<dtarrant> @UniversalSuperBox [There are also the people who join and ask if their device is supported, in thos …], Touchè!19:33
ubptgbot<dtarrant> @UniversalSuperBox [There are also the people who join and ask if their device is supported, in thos …], They could be running UT on a Nexus 4 and be interested in upgrading tbeir Moto G4 from Android to UT (like me).19:42
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> They could, but this seems like a stretch for the sake of continuing the argument. :P19:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Tygerpro [We cant do it through terminal like ubuntu server?], not really. there is no standard display manager running, and phone/tablet images are hard-coded to auto-login phablet user. trying to add another user won't work as expected. and doing it in some complicated manner in an attempt to get "locked" apps for someone you want to sh19:55
ubptgbotare your phone with (such as children), won't work very well, and just be super frustrating19:55
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @ruedigerkupper [@myii Sorry, I really do appreciate your helpfulness, but the links you post all …], the links aren't broken its a bug in the browser try clicking the links in another telegram client19:57
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> Hmm, perhaps I need to re-think that approach, I kind of want to try making my own rootfs anyways19:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @ruedigerkupper [@myii Sorry, I really do appreciate your helpfulness, but the links you post all …], [Edit] the links aren't broken its a bug in the browser try clicking the links in another telegram client such as via the telegram webapp19:58
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @imraniqbal [Are you kidding?  You can't open https://open-store.io/about?], can confirm the about page is missing in the openstore app20:01
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> due to links being send to the openstore app20:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @ruedigerkupper [@myii Sorry, I really do appreciate your helpfulness, but the links you post all …], [Edit] the links aren't broken its a bug in the browser …  try clicking the links in another telegram client such as via the telegram webapp20:02
ubptgbotnoisebro was added by: noisebro20:09
ubptgbot<noisebro> Hello people20:14
ubptgbot<noisebro> Is fluffychat still supported  y the developer?20:14
ubptgbot<noisebro> [Edit] Is fluffychat still supported  by the developer?20:14
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes20:15
ubptgbot<noisebro> https://github.com/merrychap/fluffychat20:17
ubptgbot<noisebro> Why does it says  "project is frozen" in readme?20:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You're looking for https://gitlab.com/ChristianPauly/fluffychat20:18
ubptgbot<noisebro> Oh thanks20:19
ubptgbot<Braillynn> @Graham Clark [Out of curiosity, once installed, does anyone have any troubles with UT?], Viewing photos bring up the keyboard for me which can be annoying. As of the last update the orientation for YouTube videos isn’t working. They keyboard does some very interesting spell correction but honestly it’s more stable than Windows 10 Mobil20:30
ubptgbote.20:30
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> @Braillynn [Viewing photos bring up the keyboard for me which can be annoying. As of the las …], Cool. Yes, I guess I didn't mean bugs, more like failing or anything? … I have had mine a full on 3.5 days and all has been fine:)20:34
ubptgbot<Braillynn> @Graham Clark [Cool. Yes, I guess I didn't mean bugs, more like failing or anything? … I have had …], Not sure what you mean by failing. If you’re taking about random reboots or anything like that I’ve not noticed any and I’ve been running UT for a few months.20:35
ubptgbot<Braillynn> Every update does make the phone feel a little more fluid though.20:35
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> @Braillynn [Not sure what you mean by failing. If you’re taking about random reboots or anyt …], Nice. I am carrying round a spare phone just in case atm.20:36
ubptgbot<Braillynn> My BlackBerry Classic is my main device but I do plan on using my OnePlus One running UT full time once I change phone carriers.20:37
ubptgbot<Braillynn> I’m using Mint Mobile and I can’t configure my settings to get data to work with the phone.20:37
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> I played it safe, picked up a Nexus 520:43
ubptgbot<Graham Clark> need to look ito the whole battery life thing though apparently20:43
ubptgbottrafalgarx was added by: trafalgarx21:26
ubptgbot<Adrianjm_98> https://t.me/joinchat/MegkSEusxtAjobE6hMRWcA21:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Adrianjm_98 [https://t.me/joinchat/MegkSEusxtAjobE6hMRWcA], @advocatux @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere spammer21:35
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Graham Clark [I might have missed a reply, but does anyone have any problems once UT is instal …], I don't have any major problems with UT - it's been the OS for my daily driver (first a OnePlus One, now a Meizu Pro 5) since October of last year.  There are some capabilities which Android and iOS have which UT still can't provide - e.21:45
ubptgbotg. support for Widevine DRM protected video streaming sites like Netflix and Hulu, currently no viable video chat solution, and no usable video editing apps at the moment either - but for my own needs these are generally non-issues.   The one thing I have had some reliability problems with is turn by turn navigation.  uNav is the one app that can p21:45
ubptgbotrovide this but it sometimes has difficulty in certain areas or with certain addresses.  I purchased a Garmin as a back up for these occasions - but since I got my Meizu Pro 5, uNav has acted more reliably.21:45
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @dohbee [@advocatux @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere spammer], Fixed :)21:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> :)21:48
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