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qihUsing Lubuntu Latest on AMD64, I am unable to allow the transfer of Data via USB from my Samsung J2 Mobile to this Lubuntu machine, using MTP or JMTPFS. Is there a definitive method to do this?07:06
diogenes_qih, on connecting the phone to pc, it should ask you if you want to allow data transfer on your phone.07:09
qihYes, and I say 'yes'07:09
diogenes_and are you able to browse the files in the file manager?07:10
qihNo, I get a 'file manager' UI box, select OK, then PCMan loads, into mtp://SAMSUNG_SAMSUNG_Android_9c45f092/ ... but it just then hangs.07:11
tomreynmaybe enable developer mode on the phone, it may provide better feedback07:12
tomreynif you can't work out those 'high level' protocols, there's also adb.07:12
diogenes_qih, maybe try a different file manager.07:13
qihI am not sure if I can access 'Developer' mode on the J2, looking ...07:13
qihdiogenes_, OK will do ...07:13
tomreynand / or try from a CLI using gio, starting with    gio mount --list07:14
qihtomreyn, Volume(0): SAMSUNG Android07:16
qih  Type: GProxyVolume (GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP)07:16
qih  Mount(0): SAMSUNG Android -> mtp://SAMSUNG_SAMSUNG_Android_9c45f092/07:16
qih    Type: GProxyShadowMount (GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP)07:16
qihMount(1): mtp -> mtp://SAMSUNG_SAMSUNG_Android_9c45f092/07:16
qih  Type: GDaemonMount07:16
qihDrone 'quieted' me, mea culpa07:19
qihtomreyn, Ran that cmd => https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2FjDYrc754/07:19
tomreynyes, looks like you ran it07:20
qihI seem to have the device mounted but the file manager/system still cannot access the device07:22
tomreyni already told you all i know about this, i'm afraid, can't guide you through debugging this.07:23
qihOK no worries, googling/testing07:24
tomreynbut you could read up on those commands, and teach yourself how to test whether you can access the data from the CLI where you can get proper error messages.07:24
tomreynand once you have error messages, you can run web searches on those and then maybe find a solution.07:24
qihI know that connecting Android > Ubuntu sometimes is squirrely, this is just daft.07:25
qihtomreyn, Will do.07:25
tomreyngood luck07:26
qihta07:26
rozellihai gais thanks so much for such a wonderful operating system12:19
rozelliMy family has been using lubuntu for years, the kids also12:20
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SerjHello, i have couple of questions related to the Lubuntu 64bit.17:06
Serjis anyone available?17:06
SerjAlright, i was just wondering, my RAM is 4gb (3.88 usable), Intel CPU 1037U @ 1.80GHz 1.80 GHz, and 64bit operating system and 64 bit based processor. will this OS work well on my laptop? I don't want any breaking that happened with my computer, it was 32bit and 1gb ram, it was installing fine than in the middle of the installation the screen17:09
Serjcrashed and now it's making 3 beeps when i open it, but i will send that to be fixed, I don't want this to happen with my laptop too.17:09
SerjI will stay and wait here for couple of minutes, till some people answer.17:09
Serjhmm, no one.17:11
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Hey!17:14
Serjfinally, someone.17:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah lubuntu should be fine on those speca.17:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *specs17:15
Serjbut not on my 1gb ram computer17:15
Serj?17:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Make sure you download latest 19.10 release from lubuntu.me17:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Serj [<Serj> but not on my 1gb ram computer], It should be fine.17:15
Serj19.10?17:15
Serjit actually didnt17:15
Serjit's in coma17:16
Serj3 beeps lel17:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [It should be fine.], I'd like to have more info about how and what went wrong.17:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Serj [<Serj> 3 beeps lel], Laptop model?17:16
Serjwell, there are 2 things that could cause it: 1. it's not 1gb ram, its 516gb (or with the 500 one), or idk it couldnt handle17:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Serj [<Serj> 19.10?], Lubuntu versions are numbered as yy.mm17:17
Serjmy laptop is toshiba, my computers display screen its written Acer so its acer17:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> So 19.10 means it was released in October 201917:17
Serjow im downloading 18.04.3 lel17:17
Serjoops17:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Serj [<Serj> my laptop is toshiba, my computers display screen its written Acer so its …], Specs of the system on which it failed?17:17
Serji really dont know, it's 10+ years old my dad bought it17:18
Serjmany years17:18
Serjdid you leave?17:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. Lite. Tho it would be good to know the specs and investigate it. Lubuntu should run fine mostly. @guiverc here has tested on systems older than that.17:19
Serjill see if there are old papers of the computer17:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Serj [<Serj> ow im downloading 18.04.3 lel], 18.04 has lxde desktop. Lubuntu shifted to lxqt from 18.10. lxde will be out of date soon. Better you download 19.10 now and upgrade to 20.04 when it arrives. It will have 3 years of support.17:21
The_LoudSpeakerAlso, !ask17:22
Serjokay captain17:22
The_LoudSpeaker!ask17:22
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:22
The_LoudSpeaker^^ Serj:17:22
Serjalrighty, my bad17:23
The_LoudSpeakerIts okay17:23
Serji am so unlucky, if another person tested on older versions than i was very unlucky lol that it failed. i didnt find any papers tho of the computer, does it be written on the back of the display r smthing the spects?17:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Is it a pc or a laptop?17:24
Serjthe old one is normal pc, the one with 4gb ram is a laptop (im using rn)17:25
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> For the pc, you can open the cpu cover and check the processor, ram, etc.17:26
Serjow yeah, im not doing that, forget about it. i did that 5 times to solve the 3 beeps, naaah.17:26
Serjim scared tho17:27
Serji have couple of questions:17:27
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Shoot them. :)17:28
Serjwt, shift+enter doesnt do... sorry. so, 1. can i play minecraft? 2. can i use steam? 3. can i use discord? 4. can i use exe files?17:28
Serjnormal exe, not files. idk why i said files.17:28
Serjwhy is there <The_LoudSpeaker> ? this is so confusing17:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 1. You can. Google search on how to play minecraft on ubuntu/linux.17:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 2. You can. You have to enable the i386 architecture. … run `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt update` … a `sudo apt full-upgrade` probably wouldn't hurt. … Then `sudo apt install steam-installer`17:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 3. Yes you can. Again, google search.17:31
Serjwooh, the second one looks confusing17:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 4. Yes you can. Just do `sudo apt install wine` in last step mentioned on step 2.17:33
Serjis there like a forum that says the same thing you said? cause you know, if i leave these will go away.17:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Serj [<Serj> wooh, the second one looks confusing], What part is hard? I can explain again.17:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @Serj [<Serj> is there like a forum that says the same thing you said? cause you know, …], This chat is logged. You can always search for your nick in the backlog. :)17:34
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The_LoudSpeakerI will send the link to where its log in a min.17:35
Serjso these are the steps: You can. You have to enable the i386 architecture. … run `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt update` … a `sudo apt full-upgrade` probably wouldn't hurt. … Then `sudo apt install steam-installer` do `sudo apt install wine` in last step17:35
Serji copy pasted so some issues lol17:36
Serjsorry17:36
The_LoudSpeakerYou see 2 The_LoudSpeaker's coz this chat is bridged to telegram. I was using telegram.17:36
The_LoudSpeakerDon't copy paste.17:36
Serjow17:37
Serjsorry17:37
The_LoudSpeakerI will tell what to do:17:37
The_LoudSpeakerRun this in terminal.17:37
The_LoudSpeakersudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt update17:37
The_LoudSpeakersudo apt full-upgrade17:38
Serjseperatly?17:38
The_LoudSpeakerYup.17:38
Serjis it the same from above that i sent?17:38
The_LoudSpeakerEach message I sent is a separate command17:38
The_LoudSpeakerYup. Same.17:38
The_LoudSpeakersudo apt install steam-installer17:38
The_LoudSpeaker^ this is the last command17:39
Serjso all that was for installing steam?17:39
The_LoudSpeakerThis command will be a bit long and need you to download and wait for a while while it runs. Sometimes you will think it has stopped. But it hasn't mostly. Just search for it in your task manager.17:40
The_LoudSpeakerYeah. That's all for steam.17:40
Serji just put it in the terminal without installing like the actual steam file?17:40
The_LoudSpeakerYeah ra. This command will install all needed files.17:40
Serjokay, what's next17:40
The_LoudSpeakerYou want to use exe files?17:41
Serjcan I?17:41
The_LoudSpeakerYou can. With some tweaks.17:41
Serjif it requires additional stuff than no, ill go with the terminal17:41
SerjWINE?17:41
Serjto run exe files17:42
The_LoudSpeakerFullform is "Wine Is Not an Emulator"17:42
Serjso, what was the other one for?17:42
Serjwhich is longer17:42
The_LoudSpeakerYeah once wine is Installed, you can run exe files from terminal using "wine /path/to/file.exe"17:42
Serjokay, so the second one is for wine17:43
Serj?17:43
Serjwhich is long17:43
The_LoudSpeakerWhat long? For exe files, wine is the only way. It is the tweak that I am talking about.17:43
The_LoudSpeakerYou can install wine from terminal itself.17:44
Serjokay say that too17:44
Serj:D17:44
The_LoudSpeakerSame as for steam. Just put wine in place of steam-installer in the last step.17:44
Serjdo i need wifi for this terminal>17:45
Serj?17:45
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> You need internet.17:45
Serjokay, i have 1 more question.17:46
Serjwhat are the chances that the installation would fail?17:46
The_LoudSpeakerVery less.17:46
Serjwhat can cause to fail?17:46
The_LoudSpeakerMaybe wrong iso download. Always check for md5 hash after downloading isos using http(s) links.17:47
The_LoudSpeakerOr bad installation media.17:47
Serjmd5 hash?17:47
The_LoudSpeakerUse a decent good usb.17:48
The_LoudSpeaker!md517:48
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows17:48
The_LoudSpeakerhttps://irclogs.ubuntu.com/17:48
The_LoudSpeaker^ place where this chat is logged.17:48
Serjooh, that verifying is long steps17:49
The_LoudSpeakerIt is.17:49
Serjmy usb is 'Verbatim' 8gb storage17:50
The_LoudSpeakerBut is optional. It is recommended but not compulsary.17:50
Serjbut if i downloaded it from the official website, why would it be wrong?17:50
The_LoudSpeakerYour usb size is more than enough. But I don't know about the company verbatim.17:50
The_LoudSpeakerSomeone might have messed up with your connection. Or your ISP's. Afterall it is the internet. Anything could go wrong. ;)17:51
Serjwell, idk either but it looks like they prorvided digital media solutions to customers for over 40 years.17:51
The_LoudSpeakerAh. So it should be fine.17:51
Serjthat's what the website says17:51
Serjshould I do it? now im using Windows 10 cracked17:53
Serjpirated*17:53
The_LoudSpeakerAlso, verification of md5 is fairly easy on windows also, if you have 7zip Installed. It has verification options in the right click menu itself.17:53
Serjim lost17:53
Serjwhat should i do17:54
The_LoudSpeaker1. Download the iso.17:55
The_LoudSpeaker2. Download and install 7zio for windows.17:55
The_LoudSpeaker3. Just right click on iso and then browse through some options and you will find md5 related option. Select it. It will calculate and display the hash value. Compare it with the one given on our website.17:55
The_LoudSpeaker* 7zip17:55
Serjno, like i mean, should i put the Lubuntu on my laptop?17:55
The_LoudSpeakerYou should.17:55
The_LoudSpeakerIf you feel your current operating system is hard and slow on your laptop17:56
Serjow, but i dont. btw i wrote the 3 steps down for the verification17:56
Serjso, linux is for slow computerS?17:57
Serjso, linux is for slow computers?17:57
The_LoudSpeakerAnd you are patient enough to learn a few things while adjusting to linux.17:57
The_LoudSpeakerNope. Linux is for better users. :P17:57
Serj-_-17:57
Serjcan i use microsoft word? i have a dvd that has from 2007 to 201617:58
The_LoudSpeakerIt has low requirements than windows so it works like a charm on systems with limited resources17:58
The_LoudSpeakerYou can use libreoffice. Free microsoft office alternative.17:58
The_LoudSpeakerOr you can use word through wine.17:58
Serjcan i run files from dvds and usbs?17:59
The_LoudSpeakerOr you can use the online version of MS word. It is free.17:59
Serjbut i cant use it from the dvd?17:59
The_LoudSpeakerYou can run files from dvds and usbs17:59
The_LoudSpeaker*media files.17:59
Serji couldnt do that on tiny core lol, when i put it on my old computer17:59
The_LoudSpeakerYou have ms word installation dvd probably. Can't install from that i am afraid.18:00
Serj:(18:00
The_LoudSpeaker*ms office18:00
Serjnow what18:01
The_LoudSpeakerYou can use online version. It is office 365. Better than 2016/200718:01
The_LoudSpeakerWhat what?18:01
Serji need to wait 2 hours18:01
The_LoudSpeakerWhy? Slow download?18:01
Serjmy wifi is poopipoopoo18:01
Serjatleast im using eaglenet18:01
Serjatleast im using eagleget18:01
The_LoudSpeakerYou can use torrent.18:01
Serj(but thats unsafe)18:02
The_LoudSpeakerLol! No. That's a myth.18:02
Serj250mb is already downloaded, i wont close it lel18:02
Serji dont want to lose my laptop, promise i wont18:03
The_LoudSpeakerThey are unsafe only if you use torrents for pirated stuff like movies and songs. Lubuntu's torrent is 100% safe. I guarantee you.18:03
The_LoudSpeakerI can't promise that. I don't know your laptop or neither am I doing changes to it.18:04
Serjill go with eagleget now18:04
Serjow god18:04
The_LoudSpeakerWhat's your laptop model again?18:05
SerjToshiba18:05
The_LoudSpeakerIf it is something I have tested lubuntu before. I can probably help with any problems you face.18:05
Serjeven with 3 beeps?18:06
The_LoudSpeakerExact specs please? There are tons of toshiba laptops.18:06
Serji wish i could send pictures18:06
Serjgive me 2min18:06
The_LoudSpeakerYou won't always end up with 3 beeps on every system.18:06
The_LoudSpeakerYou can send pictures if you use telegram18:06
The_LoudSpeakerJoin this chat on telegram. :)18:06
The_LoudSpeakerOr you can use something like Imgur18:07
The_LoudSpeakerTo upload images and then send its link here.18:07
Serji had telegram, i removed it later18:08
Serjis there like a telegram lite18:08
The_LoudSpeakerAlso, 250mb is a small fraction. Iso is 1.5 gb approx18:08
Serj1.6gb18:08
The_LoudSpeakerYou can use telegram on web.18:09
The_LoudSpeakerOut of curiosity, where are you from?18:09
Serjwhy?18:10
The_LoudSpeakerCuriosity. Thats all.18:10
The_LoudSpeakerNo worries if you don't want to reveal18:10
Serjim anonymous18:10
The_LoudSpeaker:)18:10
Serjkinda18:11
Serjyou should be happy18:11
Serjim installing telegram for you18:11
SerjProcessor:  CeleronR CPU 1037U @ 1.80GHz  1.80GHz18:13
The_LoudSpeakerThanks?18:13
SerjInstalled RAM: 4.00GB (0.27 usable)18:13
The_LoudSpeakerYour specs look fine. Shouldn't be a problem imo.18:14
SerjSystem type: 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor18:14
The_LoudSpeakerAlso mr anonymous, i know you are from Asia. ;)18:14
Serjaaaand telegram is installed18:14
Serjyou hacker18:14
The_LoudSpeakerI can even tell the city.18:15
The_LoudSpeakerI didn't want to intrude, you provoked me. :)18:15
The_LoudSpeakerSee you on the other side. (Telegram) link is in channel topic18:16
Serjokay what's the telegram link18:16
Serjow okay18:16
Serjcya18:16
lubotSerjSev was added by: SerjSev18:17
lubot<SerjSev> I'm here18:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Hii18:17
lubot<SerjSev> Hello18:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Downloaded iso?18:18
lubot<SerjSev> Still18:18
lubot<SerjSev> Wait, you're The-LoudSpeaker?18:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Yup!18:19
lubot<SerjSev> Or you were just reading our chat -_-18:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I wasn't18:19
lubot<SerjSev> Ow okay, you are18:19
lubot<SerjSev> I scrolled up and saw18:19
lubot<SerjSev> 399mb downloaded18:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I can prove it. By telling your city if you want me to. ;)18:19
lubot<SerjSev> We're close18:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @SerjSev [399mb downloaded], Still a long way to go. I am going to bed. Do the install. Fairly easy. You can read up our manual while iso downloads. if you need any help, ask here. Someone will help sooner or later.18:21
lubot<SerjSev> Ow ik, just flash to usb with rufus, than shut down laptop plug usb click F2 do some setting stuff (ik what), and than shut down with saving, than click F12 and BAM, magic.18:22
lubot<SerjSev> Okay gn!18:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @SerjSev [Ow ik, just flash to usb with rufus, than shut down laptop plug usb click F2 do …], Exactly.18:23
* The_LoudSpeaker goes to sleep18:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I forgot, you can tag me for queries if you have any problems. By typing @ and my nick. I will reply when I wake up and i am free.18:26
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Bye.18:26
* The_LoudSpeaker goes to sleep. Wtf! again?18:27
lubot<SerjSev> Cya, gn!18:28
DeadPihi18:49
DeadPinothing going on here? :D18:51
lubot<tsimonq2> @DeadPi [<DeadPi> nothing going on here? :D], A lot is!18:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Just not at this moment18:57
lubot<tsimonq2> It would help if they actually stayed18:57

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