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alex_jaegerhello?00:17
Bashing-omalex_jaeger: Welcome to ubuntu support - you have a question ?00:21
alex_jaegerno, just worried I was muted, but clearly I am not00:21
alex_jaegerthanks!00:21
heap_hello, please i rebooted my ubuntu VM and instead of proper boot of system... i got a grub console :(00:32
heap_any idea what exactly should i type there to boot machine?00:32
wyoungheap_: Depends what the issue is.00:33
heap_wyoung: ;/ no idea what happened, it was running now after reboot i got grub console00:33
wyoungDid you notice any error messages?  Do you have a sticky key?00:33
wyoungCTRL+ALT+DEL00:33
wyoungThen read the error :)00:34
heap_no error00:35
heap_it just got grub console00:35
heap_wyoung: ?00:38
wyoungPress enter?00:38
heap_its GRUB CONSOLE00:39
heap_grub>00:39
oerheksjust type 'exit' ?00:40
heap_nothing....00:41
pavlosls00:42
pavlosdoes it list disks like (hd0,1)00:43
heap_grub> ls00:43
heap_(hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) (cd0) (cd0,msdos5) (cd0,msdos1) (host)00:43
heap_pavlos: ^^00:43
heap_pls anyone can help?:( i had a lot of stuff there and i think it wasnt backed up ;(00:45
heap_is there a way to boot it?00:45
pavlosheap_: ls (hd0,msdos1)/ ... repeat until you find one disk that mas the pattern disk/boot/grub00:45
heap_grub>  ls (hd0,msdos1)/00:46
heap_lost+found/ initrd.img-4.4.0-178-generic initrd.img-4.4.0-184-generic initrd.img-4.4.0-157-generic System.map-4.4.0-185-generic initrd.img-4.4.000:46
heap_-179-generic System.map-4.4.0-151-generic config-4.4.0-151-generic initrd.img-4.4.0-151-generic grub/ config-4.4.0-185-generic00:46
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heap_there is no kernel or what?:(00:48
heap_pavlos: &00:48
heap_i had no clue what to do00:49
wyoungheap_: What were you doing before this happened?  Applying updaates or something?00:49
heap_wyoung: just hard reboot00:49
heap_why?00:49
wyoungYou have any installation media connected to your computer?00:49
heap_no00:50
pavlosheap_: let's assume this is the disk ... "set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/grub", then "set root=(hd0,msdos1)", then "insmod linux", then "insmod normal", then "normal" ... it should reboot00:50
heap_grub> set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/grub00:50
heap_error: file `/grub/locale/en.mo.gz' not found.00:50
heap_:*(00:50
pavlosso grub is on another disk00:50
heap_which one?00:50
heap_grub>  ls (hd0,msdos1)/grub00:51
heap_default menu.lst unicode.pf2 i386-pc/ gfxblacklist.txt locale/ fonts/ menu.lst~ grubenv grub.cfg00:51
pavlosI guess you have to try ls disk as you did with hd0,msdos1)00:51
heap_grub>  ls (hd0,msdos1)/grub/locale00:51
heap_grub> t.mo en_CA.mo en_GB.mo en_AU.mo00:51
heap_grub> ls00:52
heap_(hd0) (hd0,msdos5) (hd0,msdos1) (cd0) (cd0,msdos5) (cd0,msdos1) (host)00:52
heap_there arent any other disks?00:52
pavloscan you check the hd0,msdos500:53
heap_grub>  ls (hd0,msdos5)/00:54
heap_error: unknown filesystem.00:54
heap_i think there was some drive encryption00:54
heap_i mean once it booted it asked for passphrase and then continue with boot00:54
pavlosthen I suggest booting off a live iso and using the chroot method to fix grub00:54
heap_it wont be possible00:54
heap_its VM inside iohybe00:54
pavlosso this is a LUKS fs?00:54
heap_iohyve00:54
heap_pavlos: yes luks fs i think00:54
pavloswell, I cannot help with LUKS00:55
heap_hm00:55
heap_i dont know if its luks00:55
heap_but it was asking for some pasphrase00:55
pavlosif it ask for a pssphrase to decrypt fs before continue, you have LUKS00:55
pavlossomeone else can jump in ...00:56
heap_:(00:56
heap_is there some issue?00:56
heap_i mean is there something special that needs to be done?00:57
pavlosheap_: reading material ... https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/how-rescue-non-booting-grub-2-linux/00:57
heap_https://superuser.com/questions/1536669/grub-bootloader-with-root-luks-encryption-only-grub-shell00:58
heap_what about that one?00:58
pavlostry "ls (hd0,1)/" as the article says00:59
heap_grub> ls (hd0,1)/00:59
heap_lost+found/ initrd.img-4.4.0-178-generic initrd.img-4.4.0-184-generic initrd.img-4.4.0-157-generic System.map-4.4.0-185-generic initrd.img-4.4.000:59
heap_-179-generic System.map-4.4.0-151-generic config-4.4.0-151-generic initrd.img-4.4.0-151-generic grub/ config-4.4.0-185-generic00:59
heap_its same00:59
pavlosthere is no vmlinuz01:00
heap_yes its missing01:00
pavlosam reading the article ...01:01
heap_pavlos: is it gone?01:03
pavloswell, I dont know ... what happened? did the VM boot to grub>01:04
heap_yes01:04
pavloswhen you setup the prefix (hd0,1)/grub it gave an error. right?01:05
heap_grub> cryptomount -a01:05
heap_Attempting to decrypt master key...01:05
heap_Enter passphrase for hd0,msdos5 (18b6576023224fdbada5c0adfcc8eced):01:05
heap_Slot 0 opened01:05
heap_Attempting to decrypt master key...01:05
heap_Enter passphrase for cd0,msdos5 (18b6576023224fdbada5c0adfcc8eced):01:05
heap_hi,01:08
heap_sorry01:08
heap_hi01:18
heap_if these commands passed >01:19
heap_03:14 <heap_> grub> linux (lvm/universe--vg-root)/boot_backup/vmlinuz-4.4.0-151-generic root=/dev/system/root01:19
heap_03:14 <heap_> grub> initrd (lvm/universe--vg-root)/boot_backup/initrd.img-4.4.0-151-generic01:19
heap_is it possible now somehow continue grub with booting process?01:19
heap_pavlos: are u around?01:20
pavlosyes01:21
pavlosI guess the pm is not working01:22
pavlosper the article, type "boot" (see Booting from grub>" section01:23
heap_pavlos: http://paste.debian.net/1164728/01:26
pavlosheap_: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/420383/configure-separated-grub-to-run-linux-from-lvm-ddrescued-device01:33
heap_pavlos: i dont know01:36
pavloshttps://superuser.com/questions/1536669/grub-bootloader-with-root-luks-encryption-only-grub-shell01:40
pavlosthat he one you sent01:41
pavlosthe*01:41
pavloshe got it to book01:44
pavlosboot*01:44
heap_pavlos: it works!01:46
pavlosheap_: glad it worked01:46
heap_https://superuser.com/questions/1588626/grub-bootloader-with-luks-encryption-stuck/1588630#158863001:49
heap_pavlos: thanks mate...01:49
TaymonHi, I've got a new Dell XPS 15 and it's having persistent what-looks-like-graphics-driver-problems when running Ubuntu (example: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yPoPnwG_fwiJAY3EAJNFBSwzrfa4Aven/view). Is there a way to judge whether this is likely to be fixable, vs. whether I'll need to exchange it for a better-supported model?01:51
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pavlosthe fonts are off ...01:55
TaymonSorry, is that a reply to me?01:55
pavlosTaymon: yes01:56
TaymonThe more serious problem is that the tab is overlaid with random boxes from the previous tab I was on.01:56
Taymon(Discord is the active tab in this picture; IRC was the previous tab.)01:57
TaymonI can tolerate weird-looking fonts but this makes the system nearly unusable.01:58
matsamanTaymon: what's the graphics device?01:59
TaymonIs there a command I can run to provide useful information on that?01:59
Taymon(In the meantime I'll see what was in the box.)01:59
matsamanTaymon: lspci | grep -i graphics, maybe02:00
matsamanor lspci | grep -i vga02:00
tozhuHi, I have question, why I compiled kernel don’t had    linux-header-<version>-common    package?  what’s the command to compile it? is there anyone could point me or give a link to compile it?  thanks a lot.02:01
Taymon00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile)02:01
matsamanTaymon: that sound right?02:01
matsamantozhu: what is it you're trying to accomplish?02:01
oerhekstozhu, installing headers?02:02
matsamanTaymon: how about this one: lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|in use' | grep -i vga -A 102:03
tozhumatsaman: I’m going to compile a new kernel: 5.8.11,  when I compiled, I just got linux-image-<version>.deb and linux-headers-<version>.deb but missing linux-headers-<version>-common.deb02:03
TaymonManufacturer website says I got "NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5"02:03
matsamanTaymon: okay you might also have that02:03
Taymon00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile)Kernel driver in use: i91502:03
TaymonIs this an indication that I have the wrong driver for my graphics card?02:04
matsamanTaymon: we'll see02:04
tozhumatsaman: do you know how to compile the linux-headers-<version>-common   packages from source?02:05
tozhuif so, would you please teach me to do that? ^_^02:05
TaymonIt doesn't really make sense to "compile headers", does it? Headers are a thing that you use when compiling something else. Unless I've misunderstood what you're trying to do.02:07
matsamanTaymon: install pastebinit, then run this: cat $(ls -1rt /var/log/Xorg*log | tail -1) | pastebinit02:07
TaymonTraceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/pastebinit", line 343, in <module>    content = sys.stdin.read()  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/codecs.py", line 322, in decode    (result, consumed) = self._buffer_decode(data, self.errors, final)UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0x81 in position 13434: invalid start byte02:08
matsamantozhu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel02:08
matsamantozhu: why're you compiling your own kernel?02:08
matsamanTaymon: well that's disappointing02:08
tozhuthere is no latest version, such as 5.8.11 which was released on Sep.2302:09
TaymonWould it help if I just uploaded the file somewhere?02:09
pavlosTaymon: at the end, it is pastebin not pastebinit02:09
Taymonpavlos: You sure about that? pastebin is not on my path and there's no package by that name. pastebinit is a package that installs a command by that name.02:10
matsamanTaymon: you could od this one, if 'curl' is installed: cat $(ls -1rt /var/log/Xorg*log | tail -1) | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io02:10
matsamancould do*02:10
pavlosTaymon: example ... echo helo | pastebin it shoud give a url02:10
Taymonhttp://ix.io/2yKp02:10
oerheksapt install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and maybe a good start and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel02:13
oerheksbut generally, tozhu, you could better use the !mainline repository. for testing only.02:13
oerheks!mainline02:14
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds02:14
matsamanTaymon: what's dpkg -l | grep -i 'nvidia-graphics' say? What version02:15
TaymonNothing.02:15
matsamanTaymon: how about dpkg -l | grep -i nouveau ?02:15
tozhuoerheks: matsaman:  thank you very much,   but seems it still can’t generate    linux-headers-<version>-common packages02:16
tozhuubottu: than you02:16
tozhuthank you02:16
Taymonlibdrm-nouveau2:amd64, libdrm-nouveau2:i386, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau02:16
Taymon(can provide full output if needed)02:16
matsamanTaymon: alright, hummm, I wonder if you've got nouveau instead of the binary nvidia driver02:17
matsamanTaymon: so you may as well try the binary driver howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:17
matsamanTaymon: if that doesn't help you, you can try and make sure you've tried just nouveau also02:18
matsamanTaymon: if neither of those work, we can come back and make absolutely sure the nvidia & noueau versions you tried were the best versions you could've tried02:18
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TaymonI am seeing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uUs85M8JPh8hn9ZtCiEiPTqSXdNQyS4W/view in the settings page. Is this indicative of a problem? The wiki page seems to be showing an older version of Ubuntu and I can't tell whether it's matching what I'm supposed to see.02:22
matsamanTaymon: hrmmm, did you download and run something from nvidia.com?02:24
TaymonNo.02:25
oerheksmanually installed drivers..02:25
oerheksyes you did.02:25
TaymonAt install time, I was prompted to enter a UEFI password as part of a driver-installation thing, and it said I'd be prompted for it again after restart, but I never was.02:26
TaymonI just now installed nvidia-driver-450 and it once again asked me to create a UEFI password.02:26
TaymonMaybe the good driver is half-installed and it's interpreting that to mean "manually installed driver" or something?02:26
TaymonI'm going to reboot now.02:27
TaymonOkay, I got a kind of confusing BIOS menu after rebooting, but I guessed what the right options to choose were, and I suppose I guessed right because my graphics card is working properly now.02:30
matsamanTaymon: hum, is this a laptop that came with GNU/Linux on it?02:30
TaymonNo, it came with Windows, I installed Ubuntu after the fact.02:31
matsamanok02:31
TaymonI guess the lesson here is that the installer makes it easy to accidentally half-install proprietary drivers and then isn't good about diagnosing when you've done this.02:32
TaymonThanks a bunch for the help!02:32
oerheksmanually installed nvidia drivers, maybe you lack the dkms package, who knows? use the official drivers from the menu or driver ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa02:33
oerheks+ you would get updates02:33
matsamanTaymon: could be this will say something else now: lspci -k | egrep -i 'vga|in use' | grep -i vga -A 102:33
matsamanbut if it works it works02:33
TaymonI installed nvidia-driver-450 from the Ubuntu repositories and it worked. I _think_ I started doing the same thing at install time, but then chose the wrong BIOS option after rebooting, and the install didn't finish.02:33
matsamansounds plausible enough02:34
Taymon00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile)Kernel driver in use: i91502:34
matsamanohwell02:34
matsamanlspci | grep -i nvidia ? =)02:35
Taymonhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RgZqNsCXWJ/02:35
TaymonThe settings page from earlier now has all the options ungrayed, and says I'm using the recommended proprietary tested driver.02:36
matsamanokay, well, if you just run 'lspci -k | less', there might be a line saying it's using a nvidia driver02:36
matsamansounds good02:36
TaymonKernel driver in use: nvidia02:36
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oerhekshomma, are you using a bot or something?02:49
oerhekshomma, are you using a bot or something?02:49
hommano02:50
hommahttps://termbin.com/l6jh02:52
jayjoWhat's the correct way to connect to a different serial tty in a terminal? I tried using ctl + alt + <function> and that must've switched the tty for my entire session and not just the terminal02:55
hommai don't know what happened just now,02:56
hommai sent a sentence of 18 words02:56
hommathen i was muted02:57
hommahttps://termbin.com/l6jh02:59
hommaThe content of this link is the information I want to send at that time.03:00
googleownerhey how can i get my nvidia graphics card to work? it isn't getting passed the login screen03:14
wyounggoogleowner: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/03:15
googleownerwyoung, what should i do with the downloaded file?03:16
wyounggoogleowner: execute it03:18
Bashing-omwyoung: googleowner: Don't ! Nvidia advises "Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package.".03:18
wyoungBashing-om: It sounds like the native ones didn't work.03:18
oerheksmaybe it is a simple !nomodeset thingy03:19
oerheks!nomodeset03:19
ubottuSystems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there.03:19
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Secure boot on this system ? as the Nvidia driver is 3rd party, and with secure boot enabled will not load.03:19
googleownerBashing-om i think it is how do i disable it?03:21
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Each manufacturer's firmware is different. All I can suggest is to look in the (bios) and see how to temporarily disable until the driver is built.03:23
googleownerBashing-om so disabling secure-boot gets passed the login-screen problem?03:23
googleownerErrors were encountered while processing: nvidia-dkms-450 nvidia-driver-450E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:24
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Well, loading a built driver will sure go a long way.03:24
googleowneri'm having trouble installing 45003:25
Bashing-omgoogleowner: is secire boot now disabled ? And how did you try and install the Nvida driver ?03:25
googleownerthrough the repository.... the site failed too03:25
Bashing-omgoogleowner: The site did not fail - secure boot is foing it's job.03:26
Bashing-omdoing*03:26
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Secure boot now disabled in (bios) ? so we can proceed to fix .03:27
googleowneroh ok going to restart03:27
googleownerhey i got my graphics card to work but the settings won't let me go 4k?03:40
jayjo-Is ubuntu using xorg? I switched the TTY using ctl + alt + f1 and I had to restart to recover. Can I just switch back to the correct TTY if i make that mistake again?03:42
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Pastebin ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' which is a log file for what the driver manager thinks.03:43
jayjo-even when I switched back to the first tty, which I thought would undo my changes, there was no file explorer and windows were displaying incorrectly03:44
Bashing-omjayjo-: Yes - the GUI desktop depends on the environment,. xfce runs the GUI in TTY7 for instance.03:45
googleownerBashing-om https://pastebin.com/7Cm3btBZ03:45
Bashing-omgoogleowner: looking ^.03:46
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Yuk >> "Is nvidia kernel module available? no" .. what have we for the modules ' lsmod | grep nvidia ' ?03:48
googleownerBashing-om https://pastebin.com/8mwdfGg203:49
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Hummm ... nomodeset ??? .. what shows ' cat /proc/cmdline ' ?03:52
googleownerBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-48-generic root=UUID=06382c5f-e2a2-4f24-a495-ed5a54d2bcdd ro quiet splash vt.handoff=703:53
googleownerBashing-om03:53
googleownerBashing-om is there a fix or am i stuck in 1080p03:54
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Not what I anticipated ( good) . secure boot still disabled ? and we try and purge the driver and re-install.03:55
googleownerhow do we purge driver and reinstall03:55
googleownersecure boot is disabled, of course Bashing-om03:55
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Naw not stuck . just still with the driver not loading per the log file.03:55
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Let's try ' sudo apt --purge remove nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall '. reboot to see the effect.03:57
jayjoSwitching ttys seems to be unrecoverable for me. I only have the 7 available, and I can login to sessions via 3-6, but 1, 2, and 7 seem to be my session but they don't reinitiate the desktop session correctly03:58
lotuspsychje!tty | jayjo03:59
ubottujayjo: To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution03:59
googleownerok restarting now04:01
jayjoshould I be able to safely switch between them, with applications running, and rejoin the tty session when I come back to it?04:02
Bashing-omjayjo: Yup - one should - this is a multi-tasking system, afterall :D04:03
googleownerok that didn't work...04:05
googleownerBashing-om04:07
Bashing-omgoogleowner: what shows the log file ?04:08
googleownercould it be this adapter?04:08
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Yeah could be - adapters do have translation issues in some cases. The Nvidia card is not on the mainboard buss ?04:09
googleownerBashing-om https://pastebin.com/4Xh3irdR04:09
googleowneri'm using a usb to dvi-d cord male to f to display port adapter04:10
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Still "Is nvidia kernel module available? no" - now out of my skill set to know the why :(04:12
googleownerBashing-om so is my cards potential being utilized even?04:15
googleownermeaning games n such won't work04:16
Bashing-omgoogleowner: so long as the driver is not loaded - going to be less than ideal :(04:16
Bashing-omgoogleowner: Anyway - out of time here - good luck :D04:19
lotuspsychjegoogleowner: wich driver version are you trying?04:19
googleownerrepositories04:20
googleownerlotuspsychje04:20
lotuspsychjegoogleowner: specificly?04:20
googleowner450 not the .6604:20
lotuspsychjegoogleowner: please try the 435 if its available for your card04:21
lotuspsychjeubuntu-drivers list, to see04:21
googleownertrying right now04:21
googleownerlotuspsycje04:29
googleownerlotuspsychje how do i install 435?04:29
lotuspsychjegoogleowner: did you see 435 in the list?04:29
googleowneryeah04:29
lotuspsychjegoogleowner: sudo apt install driver-here04:30
lotuspsychjegoogleowner: or GUI, software&sources tab additional drivers and switch04:30
ornxkawhy do i have over 200 kernels installed06:00
ornxkaFound kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-190-generic Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-189-generic Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-187-generic Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-186-generic06:00
ornxkai havent updated this machine in two years and i came back and it does this06:00
ornxkaactually it might be three years06:01
ornxkaanyway its been a while06:01
ornxkaim doing apt autoremove but it doesnt seem to have removed anything06:01
ornxkaoh god its regenerating the grub file after every kernel package it deletes06:02
Maik<ornxka> why do i have over 200 kernels installed <-- that isn't possible06:20
ornxkaidk that number goes up to 190 although i think only from 16006:21
ornxkabut basically there were a lot of them06:21
Maikwith apt autoremove, did you put sudo in front of that?06:23
ornxkai was root06:25
Maikok06:25
ornxkawere there any big kernel exploits in the last few years06:29
Maikornxka: have a look here: https://ubuntu.com/security/notices06:42
Maikwhat release are you running by the way?06:42
retranornxka, why did you wait 3 years06:46
retranornxka, It's always safe to assume there's been a published kernel exploit AT LEAST annually :p06:46
retranLinux is not OpenBSD06:47
retranMaik, if he didn't do the "apt [command]" with root privs, it would have given an obvious error06:48
ornxkaMaik: 16.0406:48
ornxkaoh god theres like a million of these06:49
ornxkawelp im on 20.04 lts now so hopefully i wont get pwned06:50
ornxkai waited three years because i forgot that i was renting this vps06:51
ornxkawhoa it came back up even06:51
ornxkaeven after i deleted the "needs reboot" file and do-release-upgraded from 16.04 to 20.0406:52
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himcesjfHi! My root partition of 20 GiB, separate from /home partition, full. How can I figure out what all is consuming the parition? 'df -h' helped to know that it is full.08:11
himcesjf`df -h`08:11
EriC^^himcesjf: sudo apt-get install ncdu08:12
akemOr Baobab i think if you want a graphic app.08:12
lotuspsychjehimcesjf: to clean a rather full HD, try bleachbit and stacer08:19
Maiklotuspsychje: hmmmm... is sudo apt autoremove not a option? Could be the older kernels08:36
Maikbleachbit isn't recommended if you don't know what you're doing08:36
lotuspsychjeMaik: im using bleachbit for years, never gave me any issue will all options enabled08:37
lotuspsychjeMaik: but yes, he could also clean his kernels08:37
Maiki never used bleachbit and never will because i don't need it :)08:38
lotuspsychjeMaik: its handy for a tweaking freak like me to save a few gigs lol08:38
himcesjfThanks lotuspsychje and EriC^^ , I will check that09:04
EriC^^himcesjf: no problem09:10
himcesjflotuspsychje: EriC^^ Is there any pre-installed application?09:48
lotuspsychjehimcesjf: wich ubuntu release are you on?09:48
himcesjflotuspsychje: focal09:49
lotuspsychjehimcesjf: baobab then as akem adviced09:49
himcesjflotuspsychje: What?09:49
lotuspsychje!info baobab09:49
ubottubaobab (source: baobab): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.34.0-1 (focal), package size 92 kB, installed size 720 kB09:50
lotuspsychjehmm optional09:50
himcesjfYe09:50
lotuspsychjei must have installed it without recall, it was default on earlier releases i think09:51
lotuspsychje!info baobab bionic09:51
ubottubaobab (source: baobab): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.0-1 (bionic), package size 157 kB, installed size 884 kB09:51
lotuspsychje!info baobab xenial09:51
himcesjflotuspsychje: du can also help if used well I think09:51
ubottubaobab (source: baobab): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.18.1-1ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 132 kB, installed size 836 kB09:51
lotuspsychjehmm09:51
himcesjflotuspsychje: reading man of `du`09:52
himcesjf!info du09:52
ubottuPackage du does not exist in focal09:52
himcesjfOh it is part of GNU coreutils09:52
EriC^^himcesjf: try 'baobab' in the terminal10:05
johan_Hi! I have a laptop with a single harddrive, and i made some stupid decisions when i partitioned the disc and now I'm experiencing some issues from it. I have a 40gb partition where ive installed ubuntu and have all the files, then 2 larger partitions of different formats that i would like to be "absorbed" to the main partition. Is this possible to do "live"? Or do i need some kind of usb stick with ubuntu on it and perform the partition10:26
johan_ing?10:26
guivercjohan_, the partitions should be unmounted, so using *live* media is the way to do it, such as Ubuntu install media10:33
johan_guiverc, Hm ok, thanks. What is it called when you take 2 partitions, and format them into a third existing partition? Absorption? I'm trying to google to find some kind of tutorial10:36
johan_guiverc, because that's possible, right?10:37
guivercjohan_, I'd just delete the other partitions, then RE-SIZE the partition you want to use the space freed by the prior-deletions.. it's just a RE-SIZE10:37
johan_guiverc, alrigths, thanks, ill look into creating a ubuntu install usb stick.10:38
guivercjohan_, it's the "Try Ubuntu" that boots it in *live* mode, ie. running from memory without install10:39
guiverchttps://ubuntu.com/tutorials/try-ubuntu-before-you-install10:39
johan_guiverc, so not a install normal installation ISO file to a usb stick?10:41
guivercyou have the option of TRY or INSTALL... you use the TRY option10:42
guiverc(and don't install)10:42
johan_guiverc, alright, i get it.10:42
guivercit's a great tool, it lets me borrow another persons machine & 'try ubuntu' to use the machine, then I shutdown when done & never had to use their windows or whatever they use10:43
johan_guiverc, is there a good built in tool in ubuntu for resizing a partition or should i use gparted?10:44
guivercgparted for ubuntu should already be installed; KDE partition manager for Kubuntu or modern Lubuntu (next Ubuntu Studio etc)10:44
guivercgnome-disks will likely do it too I see, sorry I've always used gparted or kde part..10:45
himcesjfEriC^^: baobab, stacer and bleachbit are all GUI applications. I am looking for a CLI tool but a pre-installed one not optional. I will try ncdu after here after making space10:46
johan_guiverc, weird, i dont have gparted isntalled on this ubuntu laptop im using now. Maybe i deleted unused softwares or something.10:47
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guivercnah, it's probably been replaced by gnome-disks & I haven't noticed (as I always installed the moment I want it); sorry10:47
himcesjf!info gparted10:50
ubottugparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0-0.1build1 (focal), package size 391 kB, installed size 1681 kB10:50
himcesjf!info synaptic10:50
ubottusynaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.84.6ubuntu5 (focal), package size 606 kB, installed size 3300 kB10:50
himcesjf!info gnome-disks10:50
ubottuPackage gnome-disks does not exist in focal10:50
johan_!info disks10:51
ubottuPackage disks does not exist in focal10:51
lotuspsychjedisk-tools10:52
johan_!info disk-tools10:52
ubottuPackage disk-tools does not exist in focal10:52
lotuspsychjeoh gnome-disks it is10:53
lotuspsychje!info gnome-disk-utility10:55
ubottugnome-disk-utility (source: gnome-disk-utility): manage and configure disk drives and media. In component main, is optional. Version 3.36.1-1ubuntu1 (focal), package size 181 kB, installed size 1088 kB (Only available for linux-any)10:55
himcesjflotuspsychje: EriC^^ akem What do you guys think about snappy and flatpaks? I see that they are eating a lot of / partition?11:14
lotuspsychje!discuss | himcesjf11:15
ubottuhimcesjf: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!11:15
himcesjflotuspsychje: It is a support question. I see that even after purge removing flatpaks and snap they are leaving runtimes and such behind11:19
myphsHello! I have this weird issue, that my T470 has way worse WIFI in Ubuntu for some reason compared to Window 10. Any suggestions on how to fix that?11:22
tomreynmyphs_: you could check your logs, see whether there are error messages about it. what's worse exactly?11:36
tomreynrun these to share some details:11:36
tomreynlspci -knn | nc termbin.com 999911:36
tomreynjournalctl -k | nc termbin.com 999911:37
myphs_tomreyn: The throughput is worse. On Windows I have a down up to 30MBit/s on Ubuntu about 12 at maximum. Upload is about the same. https://termbin.com/5ij0t https://termbin.com/lawj311:42
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tomreynIntel Corporation Wireless 8265 / 8275 [8086:24fd] (rev 78), Subsystem: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265 [8086:1010], Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi11:46
tomreynso this is the chipset and the driver for it. looking at the logs now11:47
wolframHello, I have Ubuntu 18.04 Mate on a laptop with an integrated graphics cards, which is "Intel Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller". I wonder if thre is perhaps any utility in Ubuntu to let me control the card's settings? I am trying to play some games under Wine but the performance is not very good.11:49
wolframThanks.11:50
tomreynmyphs: iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: loaded firmware version 36.77d01142.0 op_mode iwlmvm; iwlwifi 0000:04:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless AC 8265, REV=0x23011:52
sine0hey folks, server 18.04, how do I install the php meta pacakge with all the addons11:52
sine0in the past I did it small and was always missing this and that11:52
tomreynmyphs: so this is the firmware version and hardware revision. you could look for newer firmware11:52
Maiksine0: #ubuntu-server11:52
tomreynmyphs: you're running ubuntu 20.04, right? if so, maybe things will work better if you install package linux-oem-20.04 and reboot11:55
tomreynwolfram: intel integrated graphics primarily target business / office application use, not gaming / 3D graphics.11:58
myphstomreyn: ok, thanks. will try that :)11:59
BluesKajHi all12:00
tomreynwolfram: tweaking won't do a lot there, but if you want to look at your options, "modinfo -p i915" lists parameters you can pass to the kernel module when loading it (see !kernelparm), "man intel" lists X configuration options.12:02
Guest589642Hey, complete noobie to linux here. While trying to install amd graphic driver I somehow messed with it and now laptop is stuck on boot menu. Any help is appreciated.12:03
lotuspsychjewolfram: when you say performance, did you mean graphic or speedwise performance?12:04
tomreynGuest589642: this sounds like you tried to install amd's proprietary driver overlay amdgpu-pro. we only supports the open source amdgpu here for reasons such as what you just experienced. there is limited support available on amd's forums, i think.12:04
tomreyn...for -pro, that is12:05
Guest589642thanks, where can I find open source amdgpu?12:05
tomreynGuest589642: it comes with ubuntu12:09
tomreyn...and is automatically loaded when matching hardware is identified12:09
Guest589642okay, so I am able to open terminal while stuck on boot menu, is there any way I can reverse those changes I applied while installing amdgpu-pro?12:10
tomreynGuest589642: not supported here, really, but you can try: list the changes you made to install it, on a pastebin such as https://paste.ubuntu.com (and post the resulting link here). maybe they can be undone easily by just purging some packages.12:13
tomreynother than that, if it's a fresh installation, reinstalling is another option.12:13
* tomreyn bbl12:14
Guest589642Sure, download the graphics driver for linux from amd site and extracted it. and then opening that folder in terminal I just used ./amdgu-pro-install -y command12:16
Guest589642ok, i figured it. Thanks for help tom.12:28
p0aHello how can I install & use other languages? I am using ubuntu 20.04 but I swapped the gnome DE for jwm12:36
p0aso I'd rather be able to change the language from the command line12:36
p0aor with a key binding12:36
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wolframlotuspsychje: wolfram I do not care at all about "photo realistics graphics" so there are many interesting games that I can play on the integrated Intel chip but somehow this one is rather slow and it looks to be GPU-bound (it is a Windows-version of the Pillars of Eternity under Wine).12:59
wolframtomreyn: ^^12:59
wolframBut it is fine, I just thought I somehow overlooked the kind of a control panel that Nvidia cards have.12:59
ajayahmedhello. the mount.fuse manual (http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/mount.fuse.8.html) says "32 pages" for max_read. what are the pages it refers to?13:12
tomreynwolfram: adriconf, but i don't think it's packaged for ubuntu, yet13:14
tomreynthere's a flatpak13:15
tomreynhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ADRIConf-202013:17
tomreynajayahmed: memory pages. this is a technical term to describe chunks of virtual memory (which is usually primaily backed by phyiscal RAM)13:22
ajayahmeddanke13:26
p0aHow can I install and use other languages? I'd like to enable/disable them from the command line13:32
wolframtomreyn: Sure, thanks.13:33
wolframtomreyn: Too bad that IRC does not have +1 for answers, surely you would be in the top 0.01% overall :)13:34
tomreynwolfram: +113:37
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leibniz[m]why this happens? https://pastebin.com/nF1BSN4R14:17
leibniz[m]Is Xubutu18.0's libc fixed at 2.2714:18
Habbieleibniz[m], are you mixing ubuntu versions in your sources.list?14:19
Habbieah, polybar is only in groovy14:19
leibniz[m]Habbie: I've added a PPA for polybar and i3-gaps https://launchpad.net/~kgilmer/+archive/ubuntu/speed-ricer/+packages14:20
Habbieleibniz[m], did you pick bionic when you did that?14:20
leibniz[m]Habbie: You mean did I manually download the deb file? No I added their PPA to my sources.list.d...On update&&upgrade, it reports nothing but says 1 package can be upgraded...When I `sudo apt install polybar`, it throws this error14:21
Habbiewhat exactly did you add to your sources.list.d?14:22
leibniz[m]Thing is, if the package needs a newer libc, why is it cosidered as an upgrade for 18.04?14:22
leibniz[m]Habbie: https://termbin.com/7y7k14:23
leibniz[m]And `kgilmer-ubuntu-speed-ricer-bionic.list` , `kgilmer-ubuntu-speed-ricer-bionic.list.save`14:25
Habbieok14:29
Habbiethe polybar package for bionic in that ppa is broken14:29
leibniz[m]Habbie: That's why sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade doesn't do anything but reports that 1 thing could be upgraded?14:31
Habbieyes14:31
leibniz[m]Apart from that, libc couldn't be upgraded right?14:32
Habbieyes14:32
Habbiebecause it wants the focal libc14:32
Habbiehttps://launchpad.net/~kgilmer/+archive/ubuntu/speed-ricer/+packages?field.name_filter=polybar&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=14:32
Habbieif you open the bionic one, it says 'copied from focal'14:32
Habbiebut if you open the disco one, it says 'copied from bionic'14:32
Habbieso the ppa maintainer mixed that up14:32
Habbiei just downloaded the -disco- deb on my bionic and that installs fine14:32
Habbieso you could do that; and then you should report it to the ppa maintainer :)14:33
* Habbie out14:33
leibniz[m]Habbie: Thanks. you mean manually fetch the deb and upgrade. I'll wait for maintainer.14:34
leibniz[m]In general, can I use nix as an app container in ubuntu/14:34
Habbiei meant fetch manually, yes; it's also possible that putting 'disco' in the sources.list file works14:35
Habbieand yes, i'm pretty sure you could use nix to get this instead, in a nix environment14:35
Habbiethe Nix channel here on freenode is very friendly14:36
kenperkinsmorning; I have a freshly installed thinkpad (4k screen) on a 10th gen i7 that i can't seem to get the grub menu showing in anything but native resolution15:23
kenperkinsi have GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x720 in /etc/default/grub but that doesn't appear to do anything (I did run sudo update-grub)15:24
ledenikenperkins can you give us url 'cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999'15:35
kenperkinssure ledeni; the only change is uncommenting GRUB_GFXMODE as above15:42
kenperkinshttps://termbin.com/rhky815:43
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leibniz[m]`/usr/bin/wg-quick: line 32: resolvconf: command not found`15:59
leibniz[m]Would it mess my system if I sudo apt install openresolv ?15:59
ledenikenperkins: did you run vbeinfo or videoinfo in grub to see available modes16:13
wuzamarineleft field question: what version of php started to break mysql_connect? I am arguing with somebody about all the broken webservers prior to php 7.0. I remember Ubuntu in particular had an issue and people started to backport before it was fully removed. Anybody know when that was?16:27
tomreyn!discuss | wuzamarine16:28
ubottuwuzamarine: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!16:28
fribis it possible to install qt lib version 5.14 on ubuntu 20.04 ?16:31
Bombohi16:32
fribhi16:32
Bomboi updated from nvidia-driver-440 to nvidia-driver-450 without rebooting, now glxgears e.g. is not working anymore is there a way without rebooting to fix that?16:33
tomreynfrib: not from apt sources supported here16:34
fribtomreyn, any idea where I can find it?16:34
tomreynno, maybe a !ppa16:35
fribthe qt installer wants me to use 10 gigs for it16:35
fribcan I just copy paste the .so from another machine?16:37
kenperkins@ledeni i did not; videoinfo doesn't appear to exist in 20.04, nor does vbeinfo16:37
ledenikenperkins: you need to get 'grub>' to run any of that to commands16:39
kenperkinsoh, those are in grub16:40
kenperkinsthanks, brb16:40
kenperkins@ledeni that was it; perfect thank you so much16:45
ledenikenperkins: you are welcome16:46
kenperkinstrying to read grub at 3840x2160 is impossbile16:47
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ledenikenperkins: did you change mode?16:49
tomreynif the output is too small to be read even temporarily, you can try this https://vietlq.github.io/2019/09/22/make-grub-font-size-bigger/16:51
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tfdatabI upgrade Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS to Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS and now HP printer does not work17:04
tfdatabCan anybody help?17:04
kenperkinstomreyn: good to know for the future, for now the change worked permanently17:05
tuxakadjsebtfdatab: Can you reinstall hplip ?17:10
tfdatabI tried that and then I started hp-setup17:11
tfdatabIt detect printer both on wireless and on usb port17:11
tfdatabPut print does not come out.17:11
tfdatabBut print does not come out17:12
tuxakadjsebCan you choose several printers ?17:12
tfdatabIn one of the cases (I have several printers and several computers) there is a single inkjet /scanner hp printer. It does not work. It comes up in printer window in settings.17:13
tfdatabNew hp laser jet work with print outs from ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS17:13
tfdatabBut old 8550 laser jet color hp does not work and not hp inkjet.17:14
tfdatabI can not choose several printer in one case(because they are on a separate network) In settings there is several connections to the same printer. USB + Wireless + something else.17:15
tfdatabAll printers worked under Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS17:16
tfdatabSometimes when I print out text the program says printer communication problem.17:18
tfdatabI restarted also the computer after I removed all printers and installed new printer driver and printers in printer settings and then restart again.17:19
fribis it bad practice to manually copy library files to /lib/x86-linux-gnu ?18:09
lotuspsychjefrib: maybe if you tell your whole story, volunteers can think along with you better18:16
friblotuspsychje, my Qt application requires qt librarires that are not available in the ubuntu package manager but they are available from the Qt installer which doesn't however install them in a place where the OS can automatically find them when the program is run18:17
fribcopying the libraries from the location where they are installed to /lib/x86-linux-gnu/ allows the program to run18:18
frib+ initial question18:18
OnkelTemHi all. When I connect my external Mic I get this in the syslog: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vyktXnfm7n/18:20
OnkelTemand nothing works of course18:20
OnkelTemdevice descriptor read/64, error -7118:20
OnkelTemAny ideas what does that mean? If it's power issues then... why? this is a usb device, which is assumed to be plugged to the PC18:21
OnkelTemor maybe I should just restart? LOL18:21
NIN101ubuntu still has firefox 80. any news when the update to 81 will be available?18:23
lotuspsychjeNIN101: maybe the firefox channel might know more of the push times, or #ubuntu-release18:24
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ComputerTechHello19:50
ComputerTechcan i edit the host file, to create any hostmask i want?19:50
ComputerTechlike for example19:50
ComputerTech192.168.1.1 szajbus.site szajbus19:51
ComputerTechwould that work?19:51
ComputerTechdo i just make up a random ip?19:51
ComputerTechor do i have to have a specific ip i have?19:51
jonnjValues in /etc/hosts override the normal DNS resolution. So if you lookup the address for szajbus.site or szajbus it will get the address 192.168.1.1.19:55
oerheksone name, indeed.19:55
oerheksand you should edit it at 2 places19:55
oerheks!hostname19:55
ubottuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.19:55
jonnjOf course if this is in your local network, it is very useful. If you are overriding google.com obviously this could cause problems.19:55
jonnjThe format is IP-address host1 host2 host3 etc.19:56
jonnjYou can pack multiple names for the same host on a single line.19:56
ComputerTechhow do i check what ips i have?19:56
ComputerTechto assign a host to it19:56
ComputerTechi remember something net19:57
oerheks127.0.0.1 ?19:57
ComputerTechno i mean the command that lists all ips on that vps19:57
oerheksoh. now you mention VPS?19:58
ComputerTechyeah19:58
ComputerTechsorry, not a very knowledgable person on this tbh19:58
ComputerTechdoes that make a difference?19:59
oerheksa vps is heavily tweaked, one can change the hostname. but this " lists all ips on that vps"  makes no sense.19:59
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ComputerTechgot it20:02
ComputerTechip a20:02
ComputerTechso i can for example this20:02
ComputerTech2a02:2430:3:2500::498:4ea7  blah.site szajbus20:02
ComputerTechthat correct?20:02
AavarCan someone help me with a problem with Teams, or maybe point me in a direction of someone that can help me? The issue is that the microphone is not working. When doing a test call I never hear the message back.20:53
oerheksthis 'teams' ? https://snapcraft.io/teams-for-linux20:54
oerheksdid you check out ; softwarecenter > installed > snapname > permissions20:55
Aavaroerheks: No I installed the flatpak and the deb from MS. I'll try the snap, and see if it makes any difference.20:56
oerheksoh, for flatpak i don't know, it is not usual on ubuntu20:56
gebbionehi folks, when ubuntu starts booting i see a bunch of text and messages, like ata1: link slow or similar ... dark screen with white text output. Is this text saved somewhere? it doesnt look like it is in /var/log/boot.log20:56
gebbionenot in auth.log20:57
Aavaroerheks: Let me try the snap and see :)20:57
Bashing-omgebbione: ' journalctl -b -0 ' shows messages from the current boot.20:58
gebbionethank you, kernel: ata1.00: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0) <- about this ... should i update my system to new hardware ? ... and ata1.00: SRST failed (errno=-16)21:00
gebbioneit might a disk plugged in that is failing to start21:01
oerheksdisks > smart would give a clue21:02
Aavaroerheks: The snap-version does not even show me the settings for devices... for some reason.21:03
blubhi, I cannot boot live cd ubuntu 20.04.1 into ram. after ~10 minutes there is a "decoding failed" error. it works on another machine (same chipset). what to do?21:04
blubmaybe this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/189025721:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1890257 in linux (Ubuntu) "[RTX6000][20.04.01] RTX6000 is not supported by nouveau" [Low,Confirmed]21:05
tomreynblub: try booting with nouveau.modeset=0 or modprobe.blacklist=nouveau then21:15
blubtomreyn: do you mean just to add a parameter to boot options? "... quiet splash nouveau.modeset=0 toram ---"?21:18
tomreynblub: exactly21:18
blubok, I will try in a moment.21:19
blubtomreyn: the difference between the two machines is the graphic card. the working machine uses nvidia graphic card, the "bad" machine has no separte graphic card (only the integrated intel). maybe the nouveau will solve it. I am trying now.21:22
tomreynblub: then this workaround for the bug you wuoted, which is about an nvidia RTX6000 chipset, which you now say you don't have in the problematic system, won't help.21:23
tomreyn* quoted21:23
blubhmm ok :/ . the nouveau.modeset=0 doesn't work for me.21:25
tomreynhow much ram does this system have?21:25
tomreyni mean how much physical ram is installed21:26
blubtomreyn 28 GB. I tried in on the same "bad" machine with older ubuntu version 19.x with only 16 GB ram and it was no problem. 20.04.1 do not want to operate on this machine. :/21:27
tomreynblub: same firmware version as the system that's working, too?21:28
blubtomreyn: what do you mean with firmware? the hardware is not the same manufacturer, only the chipset family is the same (z97).21:29
tomreyni see21:29
tomreynblub: are you sure that 28 GB RAM is a configuration that's supported in the way you have it installed?21:29
blubtomreyn: I am not sure. what should i do? there is 3x8GB and 1x4GB. same ram manufacturer, the 3 rams are exactly the same21:31
tomreynconsult the mainboard manual for supported configurations21:31
blubhttps://download.asrock.com/Manual/Z97%20Extreme4.pdf21:32
blubram is definitely supported by this mainboard21:33
blubis listed in the Memory QVL21:33
blubmaybe i should try 1. 8gb, 2. 8gb, 3. 8gb, 4. 4gb, instead of 4gb/8gb/8gb/8gb/21:34
tomreyni guess it should work as it is, but in single channel, according to section 2.3 of this manual21:34
tomreynsince the system does boot, from what i understand (you can reach grub), it's probably a separate issue, though21:36
tomreynblub: so i suggest you try to boot with    dis_ucode_ldr     !kernelparm or upgrade the mainboard firmware21:38
tomreynor just try without to_ram21:39
tomreyn* toram21:39
blubwithout toram? ok, i will try21:40
tomreynundoing customiations is usually the best first step to take.21:41
blubOk, i am trying21:41
blubtomreyn: It also fails, the machine restarts after a while, while booting21:43
blub(there is no hdd/ssd connected)21:44
tomreynblub: verify the iso file you downloaded matches its checksum. use a software which verifies the data written to the installer media and recreate the installer media from the iso.21:44
tomreyndo a memtest21:45
tomreynensure the hardware is ok21:45
pavloscan you try with just 2x8GB ram (as in priority 1 from the pdf)?21:47
tomreynif the memtest reports errors, retry the memtest with just with 2x 8 gb ram installed. if it still reports errors, cross test with the other leftover 8 gb dimm in the bank the error was reported for21:47
blubI am trying with separated nvidia graphic card now. then i will try with 2x8gb in the right slots21:52
blubit shows me ubuntu logo now and a checking progress. something new.21:54
blubinteresting21:54
jpmhI see that my umask is set to 0002 - why then when I do date >temp.fil is temp.fil created with rw-rw-r-- and not rwxrwxr-x?  I guess I do not understand umask21:57
oerhekssee "An umask of 002 gives write permission to the other group members" https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/umask22:00
oerheksnow pam_umask does it right.22:01
blubpavlos tomreyn without to ram and with nvidia graphic card it works. i will try now "toram" and nvidia graphic. intel graphic seems to be the problem with 20.04.1 :/22:07
jpmhoerheks: I understand that "others" part of the mask.  What I am not understanding is why the execute but does not get set since it is NOT masked out by my umask22:08
blubis there maybe a spacial boot option for intel graphics?22:09
blubnvidia grpahic + toram seems to be good too. there is also a progress while booting22:11
tomreynblub: i still think it's likely to do with your ram configuration and that it works in this configuration for now should not be taken as an indication that the hardware is stable they it is configured now.22:13
blubtomreyn: ok, should i try 2x8b in the priority 1 configuration and without nvidia? i will try.22:14
tomreynthat, or just do a memtest as you have it now.22:14
tomreyn"is stable they it is" -> "is stable as it is"22:15
blub2x8gb without nvidiad doesn't work too. memtest86+ is running now, but I don't believe in memory problems, because I had the same problem when I tried with the ram from a working computer before. And I use that ram every day for many hous on linux without any problems.22:26
blubmemtest hung up without showing any errors, because I had no nvidia connected... :D22:29
pavlosthere is a bios option to enable/disable integrated graphics and enable pcie gpu (see page 80)22:32
blubpavlos do you mean "primary graphic adapter"?22:34
oerhekswhat nvidia card is this exactly?22:34
bluboerheks gtx 26022:35
pavlosblub: yes, at the bottom it says to disable int graphics so that an external gpu can be used.22:35
blubpavlos I think that if the pci is unconnected, the bios disc detects the intel, othwerise i would not have come to the option of botting ubuntu22:36
pavlosblub: it should ... you should be able to boot ubuntu either with the int card (intel) or the external (nvidia)22:38
oerheksmake sure you powered that card properly.22:40
pavlosI assume you plug the card into the pcie slot closest to the cpu22:44
oerheksthat mobo comes with pci xpress 3.0 and 2.022:45
oerhekscard is 2.022:45
bluboerheks pavlos but the card is not the problem. the problems occurs only without nvidia graphic card22:45
pavlosso, w/o nvidia, 2x8gb ubuntu does not boot?22:46
oerheksshould work, in uefi mode22:46
pavlosas tomreyn wrote, you verified iso22:46
blubnvidia + all ram combinations works. intel (integrated cpu grpahic) + all ram combinations doesn't work22:46
oerheksbios issue, most likely. there must be a setting how much ram you share with intel.22:48
blubdid you write something while i was away?22:56
tomreynblub: no, but before you left, people wrote seomthing.23:14
tomreyn!irclogs23:14
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/23:14
tomreynmemtest86+ is not linux. you have established the fact that two separate OSes fail to boot with your minimal hardware configuration.23:15
tomreynactually, memtest86+ booted, but hung up in the middle23:16
blubtomreyn, yes, right. good point.23:16
tomreyneither points to hardware / firmware (or configuration thereof) problems23:17
blubtomreyn: however, perhaps not entirely. I ran memtest from the same cd as aubuntu, so maybe there is some problem with the software distributed by ubuntu.23:19
blub(I know that memtest is not the same as ubuntu)23:19
oerheksmemtest86 from our iso does not do UEFi systems, that is all23:19
blubBut maybe there is osme kind of bootloader connection or something lese.23:19
oerheksi hope this is fixed soonish23:19
tomreynright, still adifferent OS. and you can try the memtest86+ from passmark23:19
tomreynoerheks: uefi memtest won't get fixed anytime soon unless anyone releases a uefi bootable memory test which canonical is allowed to redistribute under acceptable terms.23:22
oerheksmaybe the systemd-boot route.. but i agree now it seems hopeless.23:24
blubI can run legacy mode without uefi. this should solve the problem for memtest23:26
tomreynblub: there's a free as in beer (for personal use), but not in freedom, uefi bootable memtest available at https://www.memtest86.com/23:29
tomreynbut hardware debugging really should take place in channels dedicated to that23:30
roblineI'm enjoying 20.04 (especially the automatic printer install, nice) but I can't scroll up with my mouse in a terminal session.  It just scrolls through the command history.23:37
roblineany suggestions how to fix that?23:37
lamiastellado you why I am getting this error? https://pastebin.com/raw/wQMKuUKQ since dev_renders is a new branch in that git repo https://github.com/benjiebob/SMALViewer/issues/1#issuecomment-69956101823:43
tomreynlamiastella: /join #git23:49
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