callmepkgood morning01:02
dufluMorning callmepk 01:47
callmepkMorning duflu 01:47
jibelgood morning04:53
dufluMorning jibel 05:01
seb128goood morning desktopers05:25
jibelHi duflu seb128 05:25
seb128lut jibel et un bon vendredi !05:26
seb128hey duflu, how are you?05:26
dufluHi seb128, going well. You?05:33
jibelseb128, bon vendredi à toi aussi05:33
seb128duflu, doing alright, thanks!05:34
dufluseb128, I got some tips from upstream that might be useful in 21.04: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1406#note_93503305:35
marcustomlinsonmorning callmepk duflu jibel seb12806:01
dufluHi marcustomlinson 06:01
callmepkHi marcustomlinson jibel seb128 06:16
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:17
dufluMorning oSoMoN 06:21
seb128hey marcustomlinson, callmepk, oSoMoN 06:25
callmepkmorning oSoMoN 06:25
seb128duflu, right, that's a situation we know about, pipewire has a MIR pending review06:26
seb128which is a pre-require to enable those options06:26
seb128we also don't really have someone with the free cycles to work on the updates, packaging, etc for it atm06:26
marcustomlinsonseb128: spoke to ken yesterday about pipewire, I’m happy to drive that. could you point me to a good place to start? that MIR probably06:33
marcustomlinsonah found it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pipewire/+bug/180253306:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1802533 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pipewire" [Low,Triaged]06:36
jibelSalut marcustomlinson callmepk 06:40
seb128marcustomlinson, right, unsure there is much we can do on the MIR, it needs reviewing (it's late for the ffe now but nothing should block security to review the current Debian source until we sync over to Ubuntu)06:41
seb128marcustomlinson, we will need to test it to validate that it works though, so if you want to do that and also ensure screencasting, portals for snaps, etc work that would be welcome06:42
marcustomlinsonseb128: alright cool, will do06:42
seb128marcustomlinson, https://trello.com/c/KRFxarVl/226-start-using-gnome-remote-desktop06:43
seb128duflu, ^06:43
dufluseb128, great. That's more action than I expected. Was just an FYI06:56
didrocksgood morning07:06
dufluMorning didrocks 07:07
marcustomlinsonhey didrocks07:13
didrockshey duflu, marcustomlinson 07:16
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seb128lut didrocks, et bon vendredi ! :)07:31
didrocksbon vendredi seb128 :)07:33
seb128hey Laney, happy friday! how are you?08:06
didrockshey Laney 08:08
marcustomlinsonhey Laney08:11
dufluHi Laney08:11
Laneymoin seb128 didrocks marcustomlinson duflu and luna_ 08:12
Laneyhappy friday indeed08:12
Laneyraining here again!08:14
Laneyapparently we had the wettest day on record on October 3 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-5456160108:14
Laneythis was when we were on holiday :>08:14
Laneyhope you are all good!08:16
Laneybah my desktop has hung on unlocking08:22
Laneyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WGqjFgV8pz/ some gvfs thing08:24
jibelseb128, I'm trying the translation update with the help of your doc. Should I export mo or po then mo are done at build time?08:24
jibelor both08:25
seb128jibel, did you see that Gunnar has a MP up for review with the update on https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/392332 ?08:25
Laneyooh what doc?08:25
jibelseb128, Yes, just trying your doc to understand how it works08:25
seb128Laney, see backlog from yesterday evening, I included you in the ping :)08:26
jibelthanks for writing it btw it's definitely helpful08:26
Laneyah I didn't scroll up08:26
seb128jibel, np! only the .po08:26
seb128let me add a note to the wiki about that08:26
Laneythat looks nice08:26
seb128jibel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity?action=diff&rev2=29&rev1=2808:27
Laneyw00t, killing gvfs got me back to the session08:28
seb128Laney, :-(08:28
seb128ah, to the session08:28
seb128I parsed that as to the greeter for some reason08:29
seb128still :-( for the fact it did hang though08:29
LaneyI was having a look to see who is making that gvfs call to maybe file a bug08:29
Laneycan't find it in shell08:29
seb128Laney, that's an upstream session? e.g no ubuntu dock?08:33
LaneyI wondered about that too08:33
jibelargh the french translators changes the link of the help page of AD to another one which doesn't rely on sssd :/08:34
jibelseb128, when you have a minute can you approve my suggestion https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/ubiquity/+pots/ubiquity-debconf/fr/154/+translate08:36
jibelit's just the link08:36
Laneyah could be https://github.com/neffo/bing-wallpaper-gnome-extension/blob/master/extension.js#L43208:37
LaneyIt's Always Extensions™08:37
seb128jibel, did you remove the https:// prefix on purpose?08:38
jibelseb128, yes08:38
seb128isn't it more understandble that it's an url with it?08:39
seb128but original string doesn't have it08:39
jibelthe link must be short so it can be memorized and written down easily. It is not an active link.08:39
Laneythat's the style mp-t gives for urls in ubiquity08:39
seb128jibel, validated08:40
jibelif only https had been added I wouldn't mind, but the target doc was wrong for our case08:40
Laneythat's an interesting case08:42
Laneymaybe we should consider not having the url in the translatable bit08:42
Laneybut then you have to have a %s which can be messed up too :(08:42
seb128jibel, you can probably manual amend the fr.po if you merge Gunnar's MP08:42
seb128or do another commit I guess08:42
jibelyes, I'll update gunnar's mp08:42
seb128Laney, also some of those urls are replaced by localized versions08:43
Laneywe have a server side redirector for the relases notes iirc08:43
Laneyit gets passed the lang code and does it at that end08:43
seb128like in the slideshow the community part they point to something ubuntu-fr08:43
seb128unsure if that's something we should allow for official pages though08:44
seb128like what if we don't provide a french version of the AD instructions but the ubuntu-fr community has a nice page in french?08:44
seb128or you mean we could redirect like that server side instead?08:45
jibelIMHO, a note to the translators is enough08:45
Laneymight not be worth the effort08:45
dufluIs it expected that non-root can still access the kernel log via journalctl, but not dmesg?08:45
Laneydepends how often this kind of thing happens :-)08:45
jibeland if they have localized doc then they're free to change it08:45
Laneyor if it needs to ever change post release without an upload08:45
seb128duflu, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-June/041063.html08:46
jibelah, that's what the subject of the thread meant, I didn't even open the message :)08:47
seb128duflu, is your user a non admin one? because admin should have access to dmesg08:47
dufluI'm currently breaking the machine, but assume so because there's only one user08:47
jibelI'm a member of adm and I am not allowed to read dmesg08:48
seb128in fact I think that's discussed in the follow up08:51
seb128'Debian already has the dmesg_restrict change since stretch, so our08:51
seb128users already need to use other mechanisms to look at the kernel log08:51
seb128Probably using journalctl or tailing the /var/log/syslog file.'08:51
seb128so yeah, looks like it's expected08:52
seb128dmesg is restricted now even to adm user and journalctl is the recommended way to access it08:52
jibelit's all good then08:53
seb128python question for the group, does anyone know how to do a something.readlines().decode('utf-8')?08:56
seb128I'm porting the versions script to python3 and it does those calls08:56
seb128for line in urllib.request.urlopen (url).readlines():08:58
seb128    if not line[0].isalpha():08:58
seb128which bails out because the lines are bytes and not strings08:59
seb128and line[0] is an int, not a str08:59
seb128I guess I could done a line = line.decode('utf-8') or such after the for08:59
didrocksyeah, I guess that’s it or read().decode('utf-8') but then do the for split yourself09:01
GunnarHjHi xnox, wondering if you can have a look at09:12
GunnarHjand hopefully merge it. Asking you because besides the translations it includes an additional default language (for Kenya) through the same kind of patch modification as you did for Myanmar in the latest upload.09:12
jibelGunnarHj, I just did09:17
GunnarHjjibel: Great, thanks! xnox: Please disregard ^09:18
jibelseb128, Laney ^ if there is nothing else waiting for Ubiquity trunk can be uploaded09:20
Laneyalright, I will do it09:32
LaneyGunnarHj: Did you test that default language change that it works properly?09:33
LaneyI saw some comment about one of the others that it doesn't (Taiwan was it ?)09:33
LaneyI guess maybe you can't read 'sw' :p09:35
GunnarHjLaney: I successfully tested the change which x_nox committed and uploaded, so my conclusion is that the approach works. I suspect (not confirmed) that the Taiwan issue may be related to localechooser playing around with zh-hans and zh-hant and that that's the reason why the default language is not effective for TW.09:36
Laneylet me see quickly09:37
Laneyah man, how do you work with these patches09:42
GunnarHjLaney: No idea. There is a reason why I avoid the ubiquity/languagechooser code normally.09:45
LaneyGunnarHj: OK. I see some special casing for zh in there, but it'll probably require some thought/time to figure out what it's trying to do09:53
Laneyso I should just upload what we have, ok, will do09:53
GunnarHjLaney: Good. I will of course test it once in the daily build.09:55
seb128speaking of ubiquity, a trivial fix for a problem I found when writing the wiki instructions09:58
Laneyah nice, will merge that one too10:00
seb128shrug, people.c.c is on precise still and of course no python3-launchpadlib there :-(14:01
* seb128 reverts to python2 version14:01
hellsworthgood morning desktopers14:45
jibelGood afternoon hellsworth 14:45
hellsworthhi there jibel :)14:45
jibelhow are you today?14:46
hellsworthyeah pretty good actually.. the coffee is extra tasty this morning or something :)14:46
hellsworthi hope your friday has been good too14:47
jibelyeah, it's been a good week overall, and happy it ends too :)14:48
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 14:48
hellsworthhey there oSoMoN 14:48

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