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ExcessiveAggroDamn you leveled down PowerTower 12000:00
* phillipsjk256 finally got the dependecies resolved: had to disable the auto fix broken dependeciens feature of aptitude.00:08
phillipsjk256It was proabably undoing my work.00:08
blueingressHi, my /var/log/auth.log stay 0size for many days? anyone can help? thanks01:46
phillipsjk256Have there been any logins during that time?01:51
blueingressphillipsjk256, sure, there are many...01:58
hanshi'm guessing this isn't good, https://i.imgur.com/hD076QC.png01:59
hansh"syncing filesystems and block devices - timed out"01:59
hanshhah finally restarted (took a long time)02:01
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blueingressok, it's close02:15
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shinobiis Ubuntu 20.04 setup to scrub zfs pools automatically?02:43
shinobilooks like every sunday at 00:24 except the second sunday of the month?03:02
loganleehello folks! i am running Ubuntu 20.4.103:23
loganlee5 year long term support!03:25
loganleei totally love it!03:28
lotuspsychje!discuss | loganlee welcome to ubuntu03:29
ubottuloganlee welcome to ubuntu: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!03:29
RoseBusis it possible to have 2 different images for wallpaper on 2 separate monitors?04:05
phillipsjk256RoseBus I suspect so. In the past I had xscreensaver displaying two different random scrren savers on two monitors.04:12
RoseBusi'm looking into hydrapaper04:13
RoseBusit's just that i have one monitor in portrait mode and the wallpaper zooms in and doesn't look right04:13
phillipsjk256Based on  this page, hydrapaper cheats and makes one large image: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/07/hydrapaper-different-wallpaper-each-monitor-ubuntu/04:21
donofrio_Help, must be doing something wrong? https://paste.opensuse.org/9393571504:26
RandolfAre you trying to install the Microsoft Edge web browser?  It probably needs WINE installed.04:28
Bashing-om!info libatomic1 focal04:28
ubottulibatomic1 (source: gcc-10): support library providing __atomic built-in functions. In component main, is optional. Version 10.2.0-5ubuntu1~20.04 (focal), package size 9 kB, installed size 45 kB04:29
donofrio_Randolf, nope wine not needed....04:30
donofrio_last install it just worked....install borked so I reinstalled and now I'm here04:31
donofrio_video worked and all....04:31
Bashing-omdonofrio_: ^^ But, try as ' sudo apt -f install ' and see if the package manager will pick up the missing dependendie(s).04:31
phillipsjk256RoseBus, may have found something for you, except the documentation talks about xineram: the old way of doing multiple monitors, so may not work with xrandr. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/539050/how-can-i-get-feh-to-set-wallpaper-to-each-monitor-according-to-its-size04:38
phillipsjk256Check oout the " Background Setting" section: https://linux.die.net/man/1/feh04:39
RoseBusthanks phillipsjk256 i am using hydrapaper04:42
RoseBusit does the job04:43
RoseBusi need more storage space04:43
RoseBuslike shelving04:44
phillipsjk256The xrandr man page apparently mentions xinerama once, so it may  be backward compatible. https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xrandr.1.html04:46
phillipsjk256RoseBus, well the distortion you talk about is cuased by the monitors sharing an image.04:47
RoseBusyup04:47
undersleptI've recently ran into problems with my wifi pcie card not working on a 20.04 build; did a clean install and card still doesn't work. The card is an ASUS card04:50
undersleptAlso my ethernet isn't working04:54
undersleptHelloooo04:54
Bashing-om!patience | underslept04:55
ubottuunderslept: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/04:55
donofrio_Bashing-om, yah that worked perfectly - thank you!05:28
Bashing-omdonofrio_: :D05:29
phillipsjk256I installed the "Ubuntu Studio" task and got Gnome innstead of XFCE.05:44
donofrio_phillipsjk256, me too - thinking about terminal sudo apt-get install xfce myself....05:47
phillipsjk256turorial was showing me a drop-down list for selecting the desktop enviroment. (logged out to check: does nto appear to be there)05:48
phillipsjk256I suppose I shoule check if xfce is installed or not05:49
phillipsjk256Looks like it was not installed... the meta-package is xfce4 not xfce.05:55
sanavopenvpn just encapsulate data or it also change location?There are some websites blocked in my country. I used openvpn server on my router, it connected and running, but it doesn't unblock those websites like tiktok, bigo, adult... is it possible to unblock these streaming websites using openvpn?05:58
phillipsjk256Well, open VPN running on you router is just going to encrypty your LAN traffic, unless I am misunderstanding. Youo need a VPN service to get a tunnel to another country.06:00
Tabmowsanav: you need to establish a vpn connection to a remote vpn server in another location which doesn't block those websites. Then tunnel your internet traffic through the vpn.06:01
sanavi see... thanks06:01
sanavTabmow thanks06:02
sanavphillipsjk256 thanks, sir06:02
phillipsjk256donofrio_, still not seeing the option to select a WM after a restart. Maybe I shoould use lightdm instead of gdm. (display manger)06:04
phillipsjk256OK, on gdm3 they moved the gear icon to the bottom right corner of the screen.06:14
* phillipsjk256 went back to the default wm after making sure XFCE exists and can be used.06:18
phillipsjk256Canonical's popularity numbers are going to be skewed becuase XFCE did not prompt to send a report.06:20
tarzeauphillipsjk256: they've been broken since many years!06:46
tarzeauhttps://popcon.ubuntu.com/ in 2021 more 32-bit intel users than amd64?06:47
phillipsjk256tarzeau that cioud make some sense assumming hand-me-down PC's. New PC's come with Windows.07:07
phillipsjk256*could07:07
tarzeauphillipsjk256: that information clearly is wrong, and canonical knows it, i'm too lazy to find the launchpad bug reports07:08
phillipsjk256Yes my argument was more plausible 10 years ago, 5 years after 64bit CPUs became really common.07:09
tarzeauadd 5 years to each of your numbers07:10
tarzeaui've used ultrasparcs 20 years ago, they're all 64bit, maybe not common, bot common among other unixes07:10
oxekdoes ubuntu have some https repository, similar to how debian has https://deb.debian.org/?07:11
phillipsjk256oxek, I tried selecting HTTPS during install and was prompted to manually enter a mirror. Maybe they are relying on PGP keys for security, and trying to be cache freindly.07:14
oxekphillipsjk256: maybe. But if debian can do it...07:20
StarOnDHello everyone, with great difficulty I did sudo apt update and upgrade.It seems to be working now but now Terminal is taking a long time to open. Firefox sometimes says a webpage is slowing down your browser. How can I fix these 2 issues?07:22
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habaner0Hello07:55
habaner0I have to ask, what would be the best solution:       sda1 = main OS drive (no space left)   ,   sdb1 = external drive (mounted to ~/downloads)07:56
habaner0I have a program that saves files to ~/downloads2  , I want to point ~/downloads2 to ~/downloads/downloads207:56
habaner0Should I use symlink or mount --bind? (using relative path for simplicity)07:56
habaner0ln -s ~/downloads  ~/downloads2 vs mount --bind ~/downloads ~/downloads/downloads2    (or is there better way to solve this. I dont use chroot so maybe symlink?)07:56
EriC^^habaner0: you cant use symlinks across fs07:58
EriC^^nevermind, you can, i was thinking hardlinks07:58
johny181Is it happens when we give printout using `lp`. It follows settings done by `lpoptions` but system text editor doesn't follow `lpoptions` settings?07:58
johny181It is happening with me.07:58
undersleptHey my pcie wifi card was working but broke. After fresh install I lspci and the network controller was spotted but no driver08:03
undersleptMy question is shouldn't, after 3rd party drivers installed via fresh install, the driver be available like when the card was working via prior fresh install08:05
slowpokehi, how can I find a list of withdrawn packages, and ideally downgrade them to supported versions?08:10
TJ-slowpoke: Ubuntu doesn't 'withdraw' packages from a release. New releases may drop a package that was previously in the archive though08:13
slowpokeTJ-: pretty sure it does so with kernel images08:13
slowpokewhich may hold regressions08:14
TJ-slowpoke: we release upgrades to fix bugs but there's no 'downgrade'08:15
slowpokeuh ok, a colleague of mine is trying to get a pr into our infra dealing with "withdrawn" packages, hence why I'm asking08:16
slowpokebut yeah, it's likely about packages that are not part of the archive anymore08:17
TJ-slowpoke: in terms of kernel releases, we generally have two tracks. The kernel version at release and a newer kernel from later releases that are effectively backported via the HWE (HardWare Enablement) packages08:17
slowpokethis is not about HWE08:17
slowpokethis is about packages that are are only anchored in the local dpkg database, but not in a remote repository anymore08:18
slowpokethe scenario seems to be that we updated to a kernel version that was then removed from the archive08:18
TJ-package versions that have been upgraded are removed from the archive servers, eventually08:18
TJ-slowpoke: if the package version moved on and up that would make sense.08:19
StarOnDHello , I was having issues with ubuntu 20.04.1 most of which disappeared after I did sudo apt update and upgrade. I am still having issues with the shell taking a very long time to load in the terminal.  I wish to wipe my disk and re install ubuntu. How can I get the LATEST upgrades  for ubuntu 20.04.108:19
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TJ-slowpoke: e.g. linux-image-generic-5.4.0 -> 5.4.1 (you install) -> 5.4.2 (5.4.1 no longer available(08:19
slowpokeTJ-: ok, so we installed linux-headers-4.15.0-126 on 2020-12-03, it went missing from the archive on 2020-12-10 and a new version only arrived on 2020-12-1308:20
TJ-slowpoke: not sure what you're trying to do but this may help you. The packages and related source are still available via Launchpad08:20
slowpokethe colleague insists to remove the package that went missing from archive, to be kinda in sync again08:21
slowpokethey have a monitoring alert for when packages are not in the archive anymore and there is no upgrade that is08:22
TJ-slowpoke: is that for 18.04 ?08:22
slowpokeyes, but the very same scenario happend with linux-headers-5.4.0-56 from 20.0408:23
slowpokesame dates08:23
TJ-would you credit it? launchpad.net is timing out now I'm trying to look!08:24
slowpokecredit? I don't understand08:24
TJ-slowpoke: it's a british saying08:25
TJ-"would you credit it?" aka "would you believe it, just when I need it it breaks"08:26
slowpokelmao :)08:26
chalarmhey TJ, how are you?08:26
TJ-slowpoke: I'm checking with the sysadmins now to find out why launchpad.net is timing out, then we can look at the publishing history for those packages08:27
slowpokeTJ-: ah, that would be interesting. thanks for indulging me!08:27
StarOnDis there a way to download ubuntu 20.04.1 so that I do not need to do sudo apt update and upgrade ?08:28
TJ-slowpoke: sometimes a package is withdrawn rapidly when a widespread regression is detected to avoid causing more installs problems08:29
slowpokeyeah, I'm expecting it was something like that08:29
slowpokeI can find reports of amdgpu dkms fails on that kernel for example08:29
slowpokelike, I think if we could find out the reason for why a withdraw happened we'd be in a much better position to reason about our situation08:34
TJ-slowpoke: I'm looking at "apt-get changelog linux-headers-generic" to get a clue whilst waiting for launchpad to wake up08:35
slowpokemake sense08:35
slowpoketo quote that famous tv series … doesn't look like anything to me08:37
slowpokeTJ-: so this is likely the page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory08:43
slowpokethe regression was "Raid data loss LP: #1907262" afaict08:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1907262 in linux (Ubuntu Groovy) "raid10: discard leads to corrupted file system" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190726208:43
TJ-slowpoke: from "apt-get changelog linux-headers-4.15.0-128" it looks like there was a severe regression in -125 affecting raid10 which had to be reverted in -12808:44
TJ-slowpoke: snap :)08:44
slowpokei had a hard time finding the correct history with apt changelog :)08:45
TJ-yes; it takes some digging to id the correct package to check. I did "apt list 'linux-headers-4.15.0*' | less " then browsed to find the latest after -126 and then used "apt-get changelog" on that package name08:47
slowpokeso if we would have been affected we likely should've downgraded08:50
slowpokesince there was no upgrade available at the time08:50
slowpoke(which is reasonable)08:50
undersleptIs there a guide to configure binutils09:03
TJ-slowpoke: I still can't get to the publishing history so it isn't clear when the replacement was published. I'd guess the replacement would have been in bionic-proposed immediately but unless you have that pocket enabled you would effectively see versions step-back09:05
TJ-slowpoke: here's the URL for the publishing history https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory09:07
slowpokeTJ-: looks like the one I posted 25m ago :)09:07
TJ-slowpoke: oh aye!09:08
TJ-I've been doing other things :)09:08
slowpokenp09:08
slowpokeI will just recommend that we look more into why things were withdrawn ig09:09
chalarmTJ-: ^-^ your also ignoring me.09:09
TJ-I'm surprised such obviously invasive patches weren't subjected to manual thorough testing09:10
* chalarm slaps TJ- with a bad Linux distro09:10
* TJ- wipes Ubuntu off09:10
chalarm^-^09:10
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linuxminttest10:01
linuxmintHello, which Ubuntu file should I download? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libpcsclite110:01
linuxminthttps://dpaste.org/gANy10:02
linuxmintThe hypervisor is based on Debian Buster (10.6), however this wpa file seems to refer to Ubuntu files?10:02
Seveasthen don't download any, just use apt to install packages10:03
linuxmintThe machine has no Internet. I need to download, then transfer to non Internet machine.10:04
linuxmintSeveas: not install to Interent machine.10:04
Seveasthen download packages from the debian archives, not the ubuntu one10:04
linuxmintSeveas: ok, this is where the error led me to, shall search.10:04
Seveashttps://packages.debian.org/buster/wpasupplicant10:05
linuxmintSeveas: thanks, I have downloaded wpa, but on the hypervisor machine, an install error appears, missing the library from this link I just found https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/libpcsclite1/download10:06
Seveashttps://packages.debian.org/buster/libpcsclite110:06
Seveasand you'll need the same for the other missing package10:06
linuxmintthx10:09
cart_manHey Everyone. If I wanted to add a custom shortcut to my QuickSearck lookup table. How do I do that? For instance if I click start and just start typing my shortcut should pop up there?10:17
EriC^^cart_man: add a desktop file to ~/.local/share/applications and restart the pc/relogin10:18
zetherooIs there any way to restore the encrypted password string for a user in /etc/shadow?10:23
EriC^^zetheroo: how do you mean?10:27
TJ-zetheroo: yes; manually generate the password using the existing (known) salt - if you don't know what the salt is/was then no10:27
TJ-zetheroo: password + salt = stored hash10:28
zetheroook, I was able to do it with:10:38
zetherooperl -e 'print crypt("password","\$6\$saltsalt\$") . "\n"'10:38
cbreakshouldn't the salt be stored along with the hashed password?10:38
cbreakeeeew, crypt10:39
zetherooI then dropped the entire output ($6$saltsalt$qFmFH.bQmmtXzyBY0s9v7Oicd2z4XSIecDzlB5KiA2/jctKu9YterLp8wwnSq.qc.eoxqOmSuNp2xS0ktL3nh/) into the respective area in /etc/shadow10:39
zetheroonow the sudo command works correctly again for the user10:39
zetheroowith the correct password :)10:39
undersleptHey I've installed a driver via downloading the module through my phone and installed it with dkms_install. It isn't showing in additional drivers though nor is my wifi card working11:24
undersleptAny clues?11:24
ThinkT510have you loaded the module?11:26
lotuspsychjeunderslept: there are currently a lot of bugs going on for kernel 5.811:26
undersleptHow do I load the module?11:26
jeremy31underslept: rtl8812au?11:26
lotuspsychjeunderslept: ubuntu version, kernel version and your hardware chipsets would be handy11:26
ThinkT510sudo modprobe nameofmodule11:26
ThinkT510lsmod will show you the currently loaded modules11:27
undersleptYes jeremy11:30
jeremy31underslept: in terminal, check>  mokutil --sb-state11:31
underslept20.04lts 5.411:32
undersleptjeremy31: I ran that command11:33
undersleptWhat else11:33
jeremy31underslept: what did is say?11:33
undersleptSecure boot disabled. Platform is in setup mode11:33
jeremy31underslept: post URL from terminal for>  lsusb | nc termbin.com 999911:34
undersleptI don't have internet connection11:34
jeremy31underslept: can you USB tether to a smart phone?11:35
undersleptHow?11:35
jeremy31With android, just connect USB cable to phone and computer, go into network settings on phone and enable USB tether11:36
undersleptHow do I load rtl8812au module11:37
jeremy31underslept: if you have rebooted since the dkms install, it should have loaded if it was the correct module for the device11:38
jeremy31underslept: try>  sudo modprobe 88XXau11:39
locsmif_workunderslept: modprobe? If it's a mismatch I presume you'll get a descriptive error11:39
jeremy31Have to go to work11:39
undersleptHow do I get into network on phone11:40
undersleptDamn11:40
nononohaHowdy folks!11:51
nononohaThere is a bug in the command-not-found package which is around for quite a while (https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+bug/1824000). I filed a patch to fix it, but could not get answer from any maintainer.11:51
nononohaDoes somebody know how can I poke around and understand who is the maintainer of the package and how to reach him? I looked around in launchpad and emailed a few people, but got no response.11:51
nononohaAny help is appreciated :)11:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1824000 in command-not-found "command-not-found crashes: unable to open database file (stack trace)" [High,Triaged]11:51
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BluesKajHi folks12:34
zetherooIf you had to choose between an AMD or Nvidia graphics card for Ubuntu, and you could not select a specific model of card .. just based on the overall Linux support for the brands ... which would you choose?12:43
lotuspsychje!discuss | zetheroo12:43
ubottuzetheroo: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!12:43
zetheroook12:44
linuxmintIs there an ubuntu-server version? The program needs Ubuntu xenial, but I thought there might be a smaller server version?12:50
zetheroolinuxmint: https://ubuntu.com/download/server12:50
linuxmintzetheroo: thanks, I found that also, however it's a 20.01.1 LTS, my program needs 16.04 LTS, if there's an older server version?12:53
coconutlinuxmint, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/16.04.7/release/12:54
coconutlinuxmint, be aware, it's almost EOL(april 30, 2021)12:56
coconut!EOL12:56
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades12:56
linuxmintcoconut: thanks, can't do much about it, as ZoneMinder takes that OS version.12:56
linuxmintthere's a lot of arm versions. I just need a amd64.iso version.12:57
linuxmintmaybe ppc64el.iso, I'll research what's comap12:58
linuxmint*compatible with my amd64 machine.12:58
coconutoh! indeed no amd64 version for the 16.04.7 release!12:59
linuxmintno worries, I'll download the desktop version for amd64 then.13:00
coconutlinuxmint, complain about it on #ubuntu-server13:00
TJ-linuxmint: you can put ZoneMinder inside a 16.04 container for example13:01
zetheroolinuxmint: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/ubuntu-16.04.1-server-amd64.iso13:01
Maikcoconut: best to complain at the Zoneminder devs13:01
zetheroolinuxmint: install that and then update to latest available 16.04 release13:02
linuxmintzetheroo: seems to have found amd64.iso13:02
zetheroolinuxmint: more here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/13:02
zetheroolinuxmint: the newest one is http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.5/ubuntu-16.04.6-server-amd64.iso13:03
linuxmintno Internet on the ubuntu-server machine.  Need to download files to this desktop Internet machine, then transfer over via LAN.13:03
zetheroolinuxmint: ok then grab the 16.04.6 ISO13:03
linuxmintok. the container looks good too.13:04
nononohaI am asking again, as the message before got no traction- how can I find the maintainers of a specific package?13:09
nononohaThere is a bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/command-not-found/+bug/1824000) that is yet to be addressed for quite a while in the command-not-found package13:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1824000 in command-not-found "command-not-found crashes: unable to open database file (stack trace)" [High,Triaged]13:09
adamretterHi there, on Ubuntu 18 I am setting some rules via `arptables`, but I am finding that they are lost when I reboot. I have Google'd a bunch, but have found no information on how to preserve the rules across a reboot. Can someone tell me how to preserve the rules?13:38
iamtheworstdevit's been about a decade since I've tried this.. is SANE still the norm for scanning a documenter over a network13:42
iamtheworstdevs/documenter/document/13:42
elcarHi; I extended the sda disk in Vmware vCenter from 20 GB to 30 GB, but lsblk still says it's 20 GB. How can say the distro to denote added space without restarting?14:11
Seveaselcar: try partprobe14:14
elcarIt rescans partitions, doesn't it? (not the disk)14:14
Seveashmm, true14:16
Seveaselcar: https://serverfault.com/questions/306737/how-do-i-get-centos-vm-to-re-read-its-increased-disk-size-without-a-reboot has some tips14:18
Seveaseven though that says centos, that should be applicable to ubuntu too14:18
Seveasiamtheworstdev: simple-scan tends to work for me14:22
iamtheworstdevfor networked scanners or physically attached scanners (usb)14:24
Seveasiamtheworstdev: networked14:24
Seveasadamretter: install itables-persistent and netfilter-persistent, then create a new netfilter-persistent plugin based on /usr/share/netfilter-persistent/plugins.d/15-ip4tables to save/restore arp tables. I'm surprised there isn't such a plugin yet :)14:27
Seveasnononoha: https://launchpad.net/command-not-found says it's https://launchpad.net/~command-not-found-developers14:28
TJ-{ip,arp,eb}tables are all deprecated and replaced so not much point14:29
SeveasTrue14:30
SeveasI should really learn nft sometime soon :)14:31
TJ-with eBPF there's some amazing power and flexibility being unleashed14:32
iamtheworstdevSeveas, any chance you had to edit any sane files for that?14:33
Seveasiamtheworstdev: nope. I just start it and it sees my hp scanner and I can scan. Probably some bonjour/avahi magic going on there14:33
TJ-iamtheworstdev: for HP devices, you'd need hplip drivers installed14:35
TJ-iamtheworstdev: for other scanner devices, usually they'll need some driver to interface with SANE backend scanner14:36
SeveasI have hp network scanners, and indeed do have hplip installed. Don't remember installing it, but this box is oooolllllldddddd14:36
iamtheworstdevreckon my problem is it's a dell scanner.. so at best maybe a rebranded brother14:37
TJ-iamtheworstdev: can you at least discover it's IP address on the network using a tool like nmap, or "avahi-browse -art" (which reports multicast DNS adverts)14:38
iamtheworstdevyea it works fine.. I'm just tired of rebooting into windows to scan something14:38
iamtheworstdevtxt = ["Scan=T" "Fax=F" "Duplex=T" "Color=T" "UUID=735e8a00-1dd2-11b2-bed5-080037d375a6" "TBCP=T" "Binary=T" "usb_MDL=C2665dnf Color MFP" "usb_MFG=Dell" "adminurl=http://Dell-C2665dnf-D375A6.local/setting/setairprint.htm" "pdl=application/postscript,application/pdf,application/vnd.hp-PCLXL,application/vnd.hp-PCL,image/urf" "product=(Dell C2665dnf Color MFP)" "ty=Dell-C2665dnf-D375A6" "qtotal=1" "note=" "txtvers=1"]14:39
iamtheworstdevthat's from avahi14:39
TJ-iamtheworstdev: if you visit the admin URL *sometimes* there'll be a link to driver downloads14:40
iamtheworstdevprobably just easier to set up an SMB share and let the scanner just dump it there lol14:41
zen_coderCan I setupl via the desktop installer of ubuntu an LVM partiion where the root and home partition are separate LVM volumes?14:44
phillipsjk256Did youtry the manual partitoning menu? Had no luck setting up an MD RAID device, and had to use the server installer.14:46
zen_coderwhen I install afterwards the desktop of ubuntu, what do I get?14:48
zen_coderthe minimal version of the ubuntu desktop iso?14:48
phillipsjk256zen_coder, not sure, the standard one did not boot for me. Had to use the legacy one that does not set up a GUI.14:50
zen_coderwhich version did you installed?14:51
zen_coder18.04?14:52
phillipsjk25620.0414:52
adamretterSeveas: I am not familiar with netfilter-persistent, at the moment we have been using UFW (systemd?) out of the box. Would this work ok with that?14:55
Seveasno idea, I've never used ufw15:01
HickorySmokedBacIs there a linux tool for setting up wifi connections over shell?15:07
HickorySmokedBacOr should I hook it up and look GUI ?15:08
coconutHickorySmokedBac, dunno for sure, but probably nmcli is what you want15:11
HickorySmokedBaccoconut: Seems to be about right, but I'm not finding a "hey look here what the networks are, which one you want to put in the password for?" easy option15:11
leftyfbHickorySmokedBac: if you are running a Desktop Environment, use the GUI15:13
coconutHickorySmokedBac, well, you can at least scan them with: nmcli device wifi list15:13
HickorySmokedBaccoconut: I see it listed, is it possible to set it on up?15:13
coconutnever done that yet from nmcli, but i guess yes15:14
HickorySmokedBacthen yank the NIC cord15:14
coconutHickorySmokedBac, tried?: sudo nmcli dev wifi connect <ssid> password 'mypassword'15:16
HickorySmokedBaccoconut: secrets were required but not provided?15:18
coconuti have to pass on that15:20
MinallHello Ubuntu Community!15:20
coconutsorry15:21
MinallHow does ubuntu-shell compares to gnome-shell aside from that the first installs apps, adds some gnome extensions and theme?... I mean, is there some 'improvements' that are a great reason to use this Environment ?15:21
johny181Can I disable all filters and issue a printout in raw format from system text editor?15:26
HickorySmokedBaccoconut: maybe I should just go hook it up to a monitor and try GUI15:27
coconutHickorySmokedBac, that does make things earier :)15:28
motzhi, sometimes my ipv4 goes down and just ipv6 works. why?15:41
HickorySmokedBacI tossed a HDMI cable on it and put it on a TV, set it up fast15:41
phillipsjk256My 500MB /boot partition is full already!15:43
zen_coderis there a webpage explaining what sizes are good for /boot root dir and home when installing ubuntu?15:43
* phillipsjk256 did not use LVM either.15:44
oxekphillipsjk256: did you do anything special to make it full?15:47
oxek500MB should be good enough for 3 kernels15:47
oxekI ask because I made my /boot 512MB and hope it will be large enough15:48
MinallHow is Ubuntu compared to Debian about system administration... I mean, more than the packages are outdated and more 'stable', Ubuntu appears to have more programs and configurations like AppArmor, and other system configurations,15:48
horantru[m]<Minall "How is Ubuntu compared to Debian"> I think ubuntu is better15:50
phillipsjk256oxek, tried to upgrade, also installed the Ubuntu Studio task, which installed a low latency kernel, also using generic kernels.15:52
DJonesMinall: Thats probably somethine youshould ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or maybe #ubunu-discuss This channel is more aimed at specific supprt issues15:54
phillipsjk256So looking into unstalling old unused kernel, maybe not using the generic kernels.15:54
oxekphillipsjk256: upgrades always keep previous 2 kernels, so you can end up with 3 kernels. If you also have the realtime kernels in addition to that, then it is possible you could end up with 6 kernel versions, which will not fit in 500MB15:54
MinallWhy do you think ubuntu is better horantru[m]?, I'm looking at references and all... Can you share your experience and, can we move to ubuntu-offtopic?15:55
oxekMinall: it is on-topic here15:55
ograHickorySmokedBac, next time -> nmcli is the commandline tool to manage WIFI on a desktop install from commandline15:56
oxekogra: or nmtui15:57
ogranot sure what that is ...15:57
oxekogra: same thing as nmcli, but gives you a text interface15:57
ogranmcli is installed by default and well documented though ...15:57
oxeknmtui is default too15:57
ograoh !15:57
phillipsjk256thanks for the insight oxek, thought maybe I was not keeping up on kernel+initrd bloat or something.15:57
* ogra learned something 🙂15:58
oxekogra: it's all part of network-manager15:58
ograyeah, i thought it was separate15:58
* phillipsjk256 had to du kerel image juggling in th e past with a 100MB /boot15:59
oxekphillipsjk256: you can read through /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels15:59
oxekphillipsjk256: and also /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal (which is an executable script if you want to play with it)16:00
zen_codercan I only create a LVM group on the whole disk?16:07
c0feif using the cat command to write a file with multiple lines, how can I add an "enter" where one line ends and the other line begins?16:08
Seveaszen_coder: partitions become pv's, pv's go into vg's and lv's live inside those vg's. You can have multiple pv's (== multiple disks or partitions) in the same vg, and don't need to use whole disks as pv's16:09
oxekc0fe: cat << EOF > myfile16:09
oxekc0fe: and then write as many lines as you want, and once you're done type EOF16:09
c0feno you don't understand let's say i write a long string of commands apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade && cat filehere but in that file there are two lines16:10
Seveaszen_coder: e.g. the server that this irssi here runs one has 2 disks, 1 of them has 3 partitions: /boot, swap and a pv. The other disk is just pv, but in a different vg.16:10
c0fehow do I tell the command there are multiple lines?16:10
zen_coderSeveas: In the ubuntu server install I can only create an LVM group for the whole device16:10
zen_coderI cannot mix it with normal partitions16:11
Seveaszen_coder: the manual partitioning thing should let you do that16:11
c0feoxek: ok here is the command: https://dpaste.com/FHUM67RQM i need this all to be on one line though but the end result is a file with two lines, one line being deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx and the other line is deb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx16:11
zen_codere.g. when I create a boot partition on the PV, I cannot create a VG anymore on this device16:12
Seveaszen_coder: you don't create a vg on a device. You create pv's from partitions and add them to a vg16:12
zen_coderI have the installer right you16:12
zen_coderyou create VG on a device16:12
zen_coderthats what the installer is telling me16:13
zen_coderI mean "right here"16:13
zen_coderand the VG will take the whole device16:13
oxekc0fe: that will work16:13
c0feoxek: you aren't following16:14
c0fethat command has lines in it, i need to have a one line command string that creates a file with two lines16:14
c0fethat command has 4 lines16:14
Seveaszen_coder: that sounds broken to me. Haven't used the installer in about 8 years (all my installs are automated), what I said is based on how lvm works.16:15
zen_coderhow do you automate an installer?16:15
Seveashttps://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall16:16
Seveasthere's different ways16:16
MinallWhat are your experiences with Ubuntu vs Debian?, and why do you prefer one to other?16:16
oxekc0fe: echo -e "deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx\ndeb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx.list16:21
oxekwait, I missed a "16:22
oxektry this: echo -e "deb https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx\ndeb-src https://nginx.org/packages/ubuntu/ focal nginx" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx.list16:22
ExcessiveAggroMorning all - or afternoon depending on where you are16:30
c0feoxek: ok so \ is what denotes a carriage return?16:32
EriC^^c0fe: \n is for newline16:39
c0feEriC^^: oh i see it now, i need more coffee16:39
zen_coderwhat is the defauilt display manager for ubuntu 18.04?17:05
oerhekszen_coder, gnome3/gdm?17:06
zen_coderI get following error after installing desktop ubuntu version on a server system and making a restart https://imgur.com/a/4Y0VQL418:07
ExcessiveAggrolooks like you lost access to your volume group18:12
oerheksvg-ubuntu--lv does not exist..18:12
oerheksyou changed that yesterday, right?18:12
ExcessiveAggrowas this a clean install?18:12
ExcessiveAggroyou see that guys nose? huge...18:15
oerheksno, he changed a lot18:16
zen_coderoerheks: I just did a fresh install18:16
oerheks!logs18:16
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/18:16
MontyHallI just did some software updates ubuntu 20 and now my wifi doesn't work18:16
MontyHallI've been running for months and now I'm down18:17
MontyHallfor giggles I disabled my broad comm driver by selecting "do no use device"18:17
oerheksMontyHall, or go back to kernel 5.4, else this fix for BCM >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1910555 there's a workaround toward the bottom18:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1910555 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "Driver build error on kernel 5.8, but works on 5.4" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:18
oerheksbcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu7_amd64.deb18:18
zen_coderoerheks, yes?18:21
dakkshCould someone help me? I just logged in onto my system after a suspend. And I can get my network interface up18:26
dakkshIf I try `ip link set wlp4s0 up` I get back RTNETLINK answers: Operation already in progress18:26
dakkshI have tried with restarting wpa_supplicant doesn't help18:27
compdocdid you make changes to the computer's networking?18:27
dakkshNo18:27
dakkshI don't have that kind of knowledge18:27
compdochow about a reboot?18:27
dakkshReboot always helps, but this tends to keep stopping my flow. Wanted to solve it if possible18:28
dakkshWhen I switched on right now, my systemd-networkd service was dead, even dhclient answers the same btw "RTNETLINK answers: Operation already in progress"18:28
compdocpossible the network hardware doesnt like suspends, or not set for suspending18:28
dakkshIt doesn't happen the first 2/3 times I suspend. But after that this always happens18:29
compdocmight look into hibernation rather than sleep18:32
dakkshIf there's nothing I can do, will reboot and live with this18:35
dakkshAnd thank you18:35
zen_coderwhen I start from live cd the ubuntu-vg-ubuntu--lv is available18:49
zen_coderI also get for a short term a blue screen say: "boot option restoring in 3...2...1..."18:49
MontyHallthanks, that fixed the problem18:59
TJ-do we have any 20.04 gcc cross compilers that are patched to support kernel builds that require reptoline?19:17
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melih_arkuyHello I'm using the ubuntu 20.04 , I shut down my computer by pressing the power button when my computer freeze. My wifi adapter and second monitor were not working when I turned it on. I think my drivers are gone. What should I do?19:48
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tomreynmelih_arkuy: does "rfkill" say that anything is blocked? if not, shut it down gracefully this time, powering it off again, wait 10 seconds, power it on again.19:50
tomreynif thereIS something blocked, tell us what exactly19:50
tomreyn!paste19:51
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melih_arkuytomreyn: how can I check the rfkill? I'm the new on the ubuntu19:53
pa0fotdag Andre19:59
pa0fotdag Albert20:00
avdeurhi Folkert !20:00
pa0fothallo Albert20:01
avdeurdat IRC is dus een soort Whatsapp avant la lettre !20:01
pa0fotprecies!20:01
oerheksawel, maar hier word allen engels geschreven, zie ook #ubuntu-nl and #ubuntu-nl-offtopic20:02
CorvetteZR1hello.  i'm playing with gstreamer in ubuntu.  i have one user which was created during the installation, and the gstreamer command i'm running works fine.  I created another user, with just the default group at first and then added him to audio,pulse and few others, but i get an error saying it can't find the default audio device20:02
CorvetteZR1what is special about the default user added during installation that allows this to work, but not for the user that i added with useradd?20:02
pa0fotapologies20:02
CorvetteZR1my first thought was group permissions, but adding to audio, pulse and pulse-access group should have been enough, no?20:03
avdeurapologies ?20:03
oerheksCorvetteZR1, just the audio group should do, AFAIK20:03
CorvetteZR1oerheks, yea, i thought so too, but looks like it needs more20:04
CorvetteZR1something alsa/pulse user specific in the profile?20:04
CorvetteZR1i can't figure it out...20:04
avdeurswitching to english..20:04
MaikWell well... josspyker ... that's a name i haven't seen in years20:05
TJ-CorvetteZR1: what specific command is reporting can't find the default audio device?20:05
CorvetteZR1TJ-, gst-launch-1.0 -q -v alsasrc ! audio/x-raw, channels=2, rate=24000 ! cutter ! voaacenc  ! mp4mux streamable=true fragment_duration=10 ! fdsink fd=120:05
avdeur#join raspberry20:06
CorvetteZR1TJ-, and this is the error:20:06
CorvetteZR1../ext/alsa/gstalsasrc.c(768): gst_alsasrc_open (): /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstAlsaSrc:alsasrc0:20:06
CorvetteZR1Recording open error on device 'default': No such file or directory20:06
CorvetteZR1but with default user, the stream works.  so i my first assumption is permission/group membershit problem20:07
CorvetteZR1membership*, sorry :D20:07
TJ-CorvetteZR1: long time since I messed with gst, but it looks like it's using ALSA directly, not Pulseaudio. Is the default system user session in progress at the same time? If so, it is likely that it has the default device open exclusivelt20:07
CorvetteZR1i see.  i just logged out, running from cli...same thing20:08
CorvetteZR1maybe if i reboot and log in as the other user directly then20:08
CorvetteZR1so he gets the lock20:08
CorvetteZR1will try that now20:08
TJ-CorvetteZR1: try running that command with "strace -f -e trace=file -o /tmp/gst-strace.log " prefixed to it, then examine the end of the log to see if there are clues as to what it is trying to open20:08
CorvetteZR1TJ-, ok, sure.  thanks for the advice20:09
CorvetteZR1oh, well, that's weird...after reboot it's working for both users20:11
CorvetteZR1looks like being the right group does help but that didn't apply right away20:12
oerheksoh, a logout and login is required with group changes20:12
CorvetteZR1perhaps alsa/pulse services needed to be restarted?20:12
CorvetteZR1oerheks, i did logout and back in...but i was doing that via ssh20:13
TJ-CorvetteZR1: no, during a session you'd need to use "newgrp"20:13
CorvetteZR1aaah, ok...never new about that20:13
oerhekspulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload20:13
CorvetteZR1that i def didn't do20:13
CorvetteZR1ok, that explains it then20:13
CorvetteZR1thank you!20:13
oerhekshave fun!20:13
TJ-CorvetteZR1: easy way to check those is "groups" will report *current* groups (in session) whilst "groups $USER" will report all groups user is currently configure in, in /etc/group20:14
CorvetteZR1TJ-, cool, thanks, i'll keep that in mind20:14
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tomreynhi feijs, need any help?20:23
feijsno20:23
tomreynok. if you are trying to run commands against the irc network, i recommend doing so in a separate window20:24
tomreynthat way you don't accidentially post your password here20:24
avdeurHi Folkert..welcome :)20:28
pa0fot:-)20:28
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yateswhat is the command to shoe the current ubuntu release?20:57
tomreynyates: lsb_relase -ds20:58
matsamancat /etc/*release*20:58
tomreynyates: that is, the currently running one20:58
yatesok thank you.20:58
yatesare there 32-bit and 64-bit versions of any specific ubuntu release? for example i have 18.04.5 LTS21:00
yates64-bit.21:00
tomreynthis also works awk -F '"' '/^VERSION=/ {print $2}' /etc/os-release21:00
matsamanI heard Ubuntu is dropping 32-bit for version 19 onward21:00
matsamanyates: ^ but Debian will probably keep 32-bit for much, much longer21:00
yatesso the answer to my question is "Yes"? (depending on the version)21:01
tomreyn18.04 is the last still supported release providing support for 32-bit x8621:01
TJ-os-release is designed to be sourced, so ". /etc/os-release; echo $VERSION"21:01
matsamanyates: I would say 'no' depending on version, but sure =)21:01
tomreynlater releases support a (very) limited subset up 32-bit libraries and software.21:02
tomreynah good point, TJ-21:02
sarnoldarmhf hasn't been dropped yet, though; iirc it's built in chroots on aarch64 hosts, though, so that may be why there's been less demand for not building it any longer21:05
matsamanif you want broader hardware support, Debian is always going to be the more straightforward choice21:06
yatesthere are a bazillion results for "apt search python3" - which one is the actual python3 install proper?21:07
tomreyn"python3"21:08
yatesdoh!21:08
yatestomreyn: python3.8-dev if i wanted specifically 3.8?21:10
tomreyn"python3.8" then21:11
tomreyn-dev contains header files21:12
yatestomreyn: right. thanks.21:13
yatesi knew that but got bamboozled by the massive quantity of selections..21:14
yatesubuntu - gotta love it..21:14
compdocI never get bamboozled :(21:16
yates:)21:23
elias_aAre there any video DVD authoring sw in 20.04 repositories? If so, what? Cannot find any...21:36
pavloselias_a: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1157127/what-is-a-good-dvd-authoring-application-for-ubuntu-19-0421:42
pavloselias_a: https://www.dvdstyler.org/en/21:44
oerheks!info devede21:47
ubottudevede (source: devede): simple application to create Video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.15.0-2 (focal), package size 1388 kB, installed size 3122 kB21:47
elias_aUhhh... have I not enabled multiverse...21:47
sarnoldsudo apt-add-repository multiverse21:48
elias_aThere we go... found it. TY21:55
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Apachezwhen enabled proposed, every now and then apt update wants to remove linux-generic - homw come?22:14
oerheksthat happens, next update after a kernel update.22:16
oerhekscleanup. and leave current and previous kernel on disk.22:17
gbellinozIf I'm building something from source and the ./configure script complains about there not being an openssl library on my system, what's the smart way of finding the package that provides it? I usually apt search | grep, but that seems inexact.22:18
oerheks!info libssl-dev22:19
ubottulibssl-dev (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - development files. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.1 (focal), package size 1545 kB, installed size 7818 kB22:19
oerhekselse ask the author/maintainer for a dependencie list22:20
gbellinozYep, author should have provided a dependency list. Can I found out from configure.ac what actual lib filename it's looking for, then do a dpkg -S or something?22:21
oerheksmaybe there are guides already .. without proper info what and on wht ubuntu version, i don't know.22:22
gbellinozconfigure.ac calls PKG_CHECK_MODULES with 'openssl' as a param. So if I can figure out where that looks, maybe I can map to the ubuntu package with a dpkg-query22:34
gbellinozdpkg -S /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/LIBNAME.pc22:42
gbellinoz(for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS)22:43
gbellinozder, that only works if the package is already installed...22:49
gbellinozapt-file search /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/LIBNAME.pc22:49
gbellinozso far, works for openssl, blkid...22:51
pyzozordhello, i am trying to set up ~/.config/pulse/default.pa sink but it doesnt work. After computer restart it is comletely ignored I need to manually "pulseaudio -k" to make it work22:57
s3nd1v0g1usi have a "read-only" fstab problem...23:12
s3nd1v0g1usis the solution really just23:13
s3nd1v0g1us    sudo mount -o remount,rw /23:13
s3nd1v0g1usY23:13
s3nd1v0g1usfrom "single user mode"?23:13
matsamans3nd1v0g1us: sometimes23:14
s3nd1v0g1usok23:14
s3nd1v0g1ushow do i determine if this is one of thoe times?23:15
s3nd1v0g1uss*23:15
s3nd1v0g1usalso, is it -o or -O?23:15
s3nd1v0g1usThis is my fstab file: UUID=e367ae07-0b5a-432e-9d0f-5ffaf6e5b21a /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       123:16
s3nd1v0g1usany advice?23:19
Ben64if it's being remounted in read only, that's an indication that something bad is happening23:19
Ben64hopefully you've got backups23:19
s3nd1v0g1usof my hardrive?23:19
s3nd1v0g1usihavent lost anything on reboot ever.23:20
s3nd1v0g1usbut i should yes23:20
oerheksrun a fsck on those partitions?23:20
Ben64check smart data maybe too23:20
s3nd1v0g1usfrom grub, advanced, reocvery?23:20
oerhekslive iso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting23:20
s3nd1v0g1usorjust from root?23:20
s3nd1v0g1usok23:20
sarnoldis there any message in dmesg to say why it is read-only?23:21
s3nd1v0g1usdmesg?23:21
s3nd1v0g1uswhere should i run diagnotstics? from grub recovery, or just root?23:24
sarnoldthe dmesg command shows you the kernel message buffer23:25
sarnoldI assumed you had a running system that was currently read-only root, and curious to fix it or diagnose it23:26
s3nd1v0g1usyes23:26
s3nd1v0g1usis there a particular string? dmesg...-F?23:26
sarnoldtry dmesg | grep -C 10 read23:27
s3nd1v0g1usfrom root or grub recovery?23:28
sarnoldfrom root23:28
sarnoldat least, I think I understood your question..23:28
s3nd1v0g1usokay23:28
s3nd1v0g1uslots of output. what in particular am I looking for? i see some references to read-only23:30
s3nd1v0g1usACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000400-0x000000000000047F (\PMIO) (20190816/utaddress-204)23:33
s3nd1v0g1usACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000540-0x000000000000054F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x000000000000055F (\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP.GPIO) (20190816/utaddress-204)23:33
tomreynnvidia graphics?23:35
s3nd1v0g1usseveral like this: audit: type=1400 audit(1610642759.664:97): apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" profile="snap.docker.dockerd" pid=1896 comm="ps" requested_mask="read" denied_mask="read" peer="/usr/sbin/cupsd"23:35
s3nd1v0g1usyes, its an old computer23:36
tomreyn!paste | s3nd1v0g1us23:36
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s3nd1v0g1usit had windows7, i installed ubuntu23:36
s3nd1v0g1usok23:36
tomreynyou can run   dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999    to post your kernel log online23:37
s3nd1v0g1usi will do it now.23:37
s3nd1v0g1ushttps://termbin.com/bjg223:39
tomreynthats actually radeon graphics23:40
sarnoldhmm, I'm not seeing what I expected to see, but this looks out of place:23:41
sarnold[   90.099222] aufs aufs_fill_super:918:mount[1516]: no arg23:41
sarnold[   90.171268] overlayfs: missing 'lowerdir'23:41
s3nd1v0g1ushmm23:41
s3nd1v0g1usi noticed that message as part of the error during boot in regard to the swapfile23:42
sarnoldI don't know if that's related to the thing you're working on at the moment, but it feels possible..23:42
LantiziaFLASH!  Ahaa... what are the odds if I ask a question about that - there will be a torrent of hate and people pointing out stuff every knows (like, how it's completely dead and buried now)23:44
sarnoldI suspect you're more likely to get the "oh was that not already dead?" kinds of responses :)23:45
oerheksbe happy with the final update.23:45
s3nd1v0g1usdeath to Flash?23:45
Lantiziayeah - I'm hesitant to say anything... don't want to get IRC bogged down with people diverting from the actual reason for saying anything :P23:45
Lantiziaoerheks, 465?  lol it's got a time bomb in it - I already know I need 371 (and have it)23:46
oerheksthe flash plugin downloader is still available, so ...23:46
Lantizialol it deletes the plugin... but I've got a backup of the old version of flashplugin-installer too :23:46
Lantizia:P23:46
Lantizia(waits for everyone to get the obvious off their chests)23:47
tomreynsarnold: thos emessages you wuoted dont seem to be so unusual https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/docker-snap-failed-to-mount-overlay-and-where-to-report-bugs/20010/523:48
sarnoldtomreyn: blurgh. four months ago. I hope he found out where to report bugs :)23:51
tomreyn:-/23:52
s3nd1v0g1usso is my swap fucked, or is it repairable from recovery mode via remount as r/w?23:55
s3nd1v0g1usit seems to reboot fine, minus the error about the swap..23:56
s3nd1v0g1usbut obvioulsy something is amiss23:57
tomreyn"the error about the swap"?23:57
tomreyni don't thin you told us about this, yet.23:57
tomreynoh yes you did, sorry23:58
tomreynbut whats the message?23:58

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