| OERIAS | hi folks | 00:01 |
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| OERIAS | I have an issue with Grub | 00:01 |
| OERIAS | I currently a setup of a PC with two drives | 00:01 |
| OERIAS | one drive will be for Windows 10 | 00:01 |
| OERIAS | and the other drive will be for ubuntu | 00:01 |
| OERIAS | during install, I set the installer to install Ubuntu on the second drive | 00:02 |
| OERIAS | I am set grub to be installed on that drive | 00:02 |
| OERIAS | however during install, I get a grub failed to install message. | 00:02 |
| OERIAS | can someone help? | 00:03 |
| Smaug_ | hey all, i have a really strange error where I run `ifconfig` or `sudo ifconfig` and it just hangs | 00:14 |
| Smaug_ | no error message | 00:14 |
| Smaug_ | i ran it because my internet seems down also | 00:14 |
| zykotick9 | OERIAS: <my 2 cents> install WIndows first then install ubuntu, and put grub on the MBR of the 1st (booting) drive. Best of luck. | 00:14 |
| Smaug_ | any thoughts on what might be going on and how to stop it? | 00:15 |
| tomreyn | Smaug_: which ubuntu release is this? | 00:16 |
| zykotick9 | Smaug_: "ip" is the modern replacement for ifconfig... just sayin' | 00:16 |
| Smaug_ | 18.04 | 00:16 |
| Smaug_ | tomreyn: zykotick9: 18.04, and happy to use ip to resolve the issue instead | 00:17 |
| Smaug_ | suggestions of avenues to investigate? | 00:17 |
| zykotick9 | Smaug_: "ip a" might get you started. | 00:17 |
| Smaug_ | zykotick9: `ip a` also hangs | 00:17 |
| zykotick9 | doh | 00:17 |
| tomreyn | Smaug_: see journalctl -eb to see what's the underlying issue. | 00:17 |
| Smaug_ | tomreyn: lots of output from that. can try to get it to you (remember that comp has no internet) but there is among output, a red error line saying "watchng: BUG: soft lockup - CPU3 stuk for 22s!" | 00:22 |
| Smaug_ | lots of other outputas well | 00:23 |
| Smaug_ | should i look for something else in particular/ | 00:23 |
| Smaug_ | ? | 00:23 |
| tomreyn | Smaug_: anything regading networking, netlink, network manager (if Ubuntu Desktop), systemd-networkd (if Ubuntu Server), PCI | 00:25 |
| tomreyn | Smaug_: a 22 second CPU core lockup is probably not a good thing. | 00:25 |
| OERIAS | zykotick9, | 00:26 |
| Smaug_ | tomreyn: yah what should i do. also i don't see to have systemd-networkd and of course, cannot download | 00:26 |
| OERIAS | I can't install Windows | 00:26 |
| OERIAS | Windows is preinstalled | 00:26 |
| OERIAS | and I would prefer to install ubuntu in the way asked. | 00:27 |
| xamua | OERIAS: you can download a bootable image from MS and put it on a USB | 00:27 |
| OERIAS | but that is not what I want. | 00:30 |
| OERIAS | What I want is to to preserve that Windows Installation. | 00:30 |
| tomreyn | OERIAS: what you reported initially could be an instance of bug 1396379 | 00:30 |
| ubottu | bug 1396379 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installer uses first EFI system partition found even when directed otherwise" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1396379 | 00:30 |
| OERIAS | then what should I do? | 00:31 |
| tomreyn | read the bug report, see whether this is actually the bug you're seeing, or not. only IF it is, read the suggestions provided to work around it and apply them. | 00:32 |
| tomreyn | OERIAS: if your hardware provides enough performance for this, consider running windows in a VM under ubuntu instead. it's often times a better setup than dual-boot | 00:37 |
| OERIAS | I have been running Ubuntu and Windows as dual-boot for 15 years | 00:38 |
| OERIAS | for some reason I have an issue with grub | 00:38 |
| jayjo | I'm looking at getting a Wake on LAN ethernet card for my existing ubuntu machine. Is that something that I need to make sure I have motherboard compatability in order for it to work? It's a PCIe card, which I have slots for available. The built in ethernet on the MB does not have WOL, which is why I'm looking into it. | 00:42 |
| tomreyn | jayjo: yes, you need motherboard support | 00:44 |
| jayjo | what does it mean for the PCIe card to support it? It passes the magic packet up the chain to the motherboard? | 00:46 |
| jayjo | Or, it has the ability to do that, and some other PCIe cards would just ignore that packet? Whether or not the MB supports it? | 00:46 |
| tomreyn | since this channel is about an operating system, and you have hardware / firmware questions, i suggest asking in ##hardware | 00:47 |
| kk4ewt | jayjo, check your bios first most mb now a days the is in the bios | 00:47 |
| tomreyn | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wake-on-LAN#Hardware_settings provides some generic info, but in the end it'll be manufacturer / model specific how to set it up | 00:48 |
| jayjo | thank you | 00:50 |
| ua_ | that whole betting on flutter thing makes me think canonical is going to be google's bitch in near future just like mozilla, what you guys think? | 01:39 |
| ua_ | well, dart/flutter actually | 01:40 |
| Bashing-om | ua_: Discusion belongs in the #ubuntu-discuss channel :D | 01:42 |
| ua_ | ok, I wasn't aware of that, thanks | 01:42 |
| Maik | also mind the language a bit ua_ | 01:47 |
| Smaug_ | ##hardware | 01:53 |
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| van777 | hi. How do i maximize terminal to cover favorits bar on the left? | 03:15 |
| lotuspsychje | van777: autohide your dock | 03:24 |
| van777 | lotuspsychje: got it. thanks | 03:48 |
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| ptah | what is maximus --sm-client-id? | 04:21 |
| loganlee | hi guys how big are these? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rtGBcYhpnd/ | 04:23 |
| OrangeTurtle197 | is there a way to provide bridged networking to a multipass vm? | 04:34 |
| loganlee | OrangeTurtle197, what is that | 04:47 |
| adam4567 | On 18.04, so I'm formatting a new 2TB usb drive as ext3. Almost 2 days laters and it still going. Is this usual? | 05:13 |
| adam4567 | "Partitioning Master Boot Record" is says on Disks at the top. | 05:15 |
| adam4567 | I'm on Ubuntu 18.04, formatting a new 2TB usb drive as ext3. Almost 2 days laters and it still going. Is this usual? | 06:30 |
| adam4567 | net dropped out so must repeat, sorry | 06:30 |
| adam4567 | The Ubuntu Disks application at top says "Partitioning - Master Boot Record". That's probably OK for usb drive, I guess. | 06:31 |
| EriC^^ | adam4567: no that's not normal, it should take a min or so | 06:56 |
| adam4567 | 2TB reformat from FAT32 to ext3, via USB, no, elsewhere says 30 hours or so. | 06:58 |
| EriC^^ | oh, reformat | 07:01 |
| EriC^^ | adam4567: what do you mean, you're preserving the data? or a fresh format? | 07:01 |
| adam4567 | It was new from the shop, ready for MS. I'm formatting to ext3 for Linux | 07:03 |
| adam4567 | I think its slow because USB2, probably should be USB3 but I don't know can't confirm | 07:04 |
| EriC^^ | adam4567: no, something is not right, it should only take a few minutes, when you format it only sets up the filesystem and that's all | 07:06 |
| EriC^^ | adam4567: cancel the application and we can do it manually from the terminal | 07:06 |
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| adam4567 | Hmm. OK. | 07:06 |
| adam4567 | is there a picture bin I can put up a screenshot ? | 07:07 |
| Quarupted | imgur | 07:08 |
| EriC^^ | no need | 07:08 |
| adam4567 | here's screenshot https://imgur.com/a/4tBXf4q | 07:15 |
| adam4567 | I might leave it overnight. It was straightforward using Disks to unmount then select ext3 and format. | 07:16 |
| EriC^^ | adam4567: you're encrypting it? | 07:16 |
| rory | It shouldn't take anywhere near that long | 07:17 |
| rory | 1. To show the USB drive among all storage partitions and volumes on your computer use: lsblk | 07:17 |
| rory | 2. Suppose it may be /dev/sdy1. Unmount it with: sudo umount /dev/sdy1 | 07:17 |
| rory | 3. To format drive with the FAT32 file system format: sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdy1 | 07:17 |
| rory | To set a file system label for your drive in the process: sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n 'name_for_your_drive' /dev/sdy1 | 07:17 |
| adam4567 | Eric^^ don't know about encrypting, I thought I was locking by adding a Password | 07:21 |
| EriC^^ | adam4567: it's made a LUKS encryption | 07:22 |
| rory | That encryption process requires every bit on the drive to be written, which will be slow over USB2, you're right | 07:22 |
| adam4567 | also, I'm not exactly sure how to stop this thing in Ubuntu's Disks application. I could kill from Sysmon I guess. | 07:22 |
| EriC^^ | adam4567: you could try pressing on the "x" and force stop t | 07:23 |
| rory | alt-f2, run "xkill", the next application you click will be killed dead | 07:23 |
| adam4567 | Thanks rory: I can leave it for a bit longer | 07:23 |
| rory | doesn't matter about data loss there since you intend to format it anyway :) | 07:23 |
| adam4567 | I will leave it for a bit, overnight. It seems ext3 2TB over usb2 takes a white, and LUKS encrypted multiplies that by some huge order. | 07:25 |
| adam4567 | .. takes a while .. | 07:25 |
| frad | how can I block audio from a specific firefox profile? | 07:26 |
| adam4567 | thanks folks. | 07:26 |
| frad | or from a specific tab / website? | 07:26 |
| viju | Hello, I am using ubuntu 20.04. I am experiencing slow internet connection on my ubuntu machine. When I check speed on other devices on the same network they're get more speed; nearly double. | 07:29 |
| viju | What could be the issue? The router does not have anything throttled for any connection. | 07:30 |
| viju | Okay, there's something not right with the wifi. When I plugged in the ethernet cable the speed is back to normal as on other devices. | 07:36 |
| viju | I'll be back later when there are humans alive here. | 07:50 |
| isapgswell | what difference between inteldrmfb and i915drmfb ?? | 08:00 |
| isapgswell | and why both have been referenced? | 08:00 |
| isapgswell | i can see dmesg |grep drm | 08:01 |
| Hamidreza | Hi guys, I bind my ip on name and I adjust an IPV4 in dbs server but my program are runnig on ipv6!!! | 08:07 |
| Quarupted | Hamidreza: Id reccomend asking in ##Networking | 08:08 |
| Hamidreza | https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/67q64Dtf46/ | 08:09 |
| freechips | hello all. is this the right place to ask for help with an apt issue ("trying to overwrite...") ? | 09:41 |
| ThinkT510 | if you are running ubuntu then yes | 09:42 |
| rory | Yes, freechips, please share the command you are running, and the full output on https://paste.ubuntu.com | 09:43 |
| freechips | alright. So, i'm tryna install some stuff but ubuntu complains that "You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these", then discussing some linux-tools dependency. It says to run "apt --fix-broken install", which fails with a "trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libcpupower.so.5.8.0-33', which is also in package | 09:44 |
| freechips | linux-hwe-5.8-tools-5.8.0-33 5.8.0-33.36~20.04.1" | 09:44 |
| g105b | I need some advice. I didn't like the idea of Snaps or Flatpacks when they first started gaining traction, but now I've just tried to edit some audio in Audactiy -- one of the most lightweight pieces of software I've ever used -- and my entire PC came to a grinding halt... it turns out that I'd accidentally installed it via Snap instead of the | 09:44 |
| g105b | normal Deb mechanism, and it's unusably slow. I also have issues where snap apps can't copy/paste between each other, or files saved in the apps aren't visible to the filesystem... Surely this is a problem with ME rather than Linux? | 09:44 |
| freechips | it sounds like a pretty ez bs issue, but i haven't been using linux ina while so idk.. thanks | 09:44 |
| aleek | hello! I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, version 430, but apt keeps installing 430, 440 and 450, dkms building only for 450. How to switch to 430? ubuntu 20.04, using ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa | 09:46 |
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| freechips | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wdhh2x6s4z/ here is the pastebin that was requested. | 09:48 |
| freechips | also guys, does this channel have a log? i might need to log off to reboot | 09:48 |
| rory | freechips, taking a look at your issue now. Here are the logs. https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | 09:49 |
| rory | freechips, I can share a screenshot when you return anyway | 09:50 |
| rory | freechips, Is it an option to simply "sudo apt remove linux-hwe-5.8-tools-5.8.0-33" ? | 09:51 |
| rory | freechips, sorry I think that would be: sudo dpkg --purge linux-hwe-5.8-tools-5.8.0-33 | 09:52 |
| freechips | thx rory, i just noticed the logs aren't updated frequently enough for me to briefly log off-on | 09:52 |
| freechips | it should be possible to run that command, i dont think im using any particular linux stuff, and as long as it's not an essential package i am fine to remove it | 09:53 |
| freechips | thx a bunch m8, that worked a charm! | 09:54 |
| rory | super | 09:54 |
| freechips | imma log off but you saved me quite some time rory | 09:54 |
| freechips | cya | 09:54 |
| rory | I found it here https://askubuntu.com/questions/176121/dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-file-which-is-also-in | 09:54 |
| rory | cya | 09:55 |
| freechips | yeah i wasnt sure if i should try to just remove those packages. like i said, i havent used linux in a while so idk if they were fundamental... needed someone to take a quick look | 09:55 |
| pedrocr | the microphone on a Lenovo T14s AMD (4750U) seems to now only work when the volume is cranked up all the way to 150% | 09:58 |
| pedrocr | this used to work fine, so I suspect a kernel upgrade broke something | 09:58 |
| pedrocr | anything comes to mind? anything I can check? | 09:58 |
| lotuspsychje | pedrocr: we usualy look inside dmesg to debug problems | 10:07 |
| lotuspsychje | pedrocr: you could try to doublecheck booting different kernel versions to see if its a sub kernel version that makes it fail | 10:08 |
| Hamidreza | Hi, I would appreciate if someone help me on this : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VwVWMG39cf/ | 10:17 |
| lotuspsychje | !crosspost | Hamidreza | 10:18 |
| ubottu | Hamidreza: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 10:18 |
| Hamidreza | ubottu, ok | 10:19 |
| ubottu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 10:19 |
| pedrocr | lotuspsychje: I guess I can try and boot something older and see if I find the difference | 10:24 |
| pedrocr | lotuspsychje: is there anything specific I'd look for in dmesg? | 10:24 |
| pedrocr | lotuspsychje: grepping through dmesg, nothing stands out | 10:28 |
| lotuspsychje | pedrocr: share the whole dmesg to the channel please so volunteers can have a look and think along with you | 10:30 |
| lotuspsychje | (in a pastebin) | 10:32 |
| pedrocr | lotuspsychje: here's a log: https://gist.github.com/pedrocr/39c2e89ef3aea2c311dc0daf5154d005 | 10:44 |
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| WeeDow | ghost | 11:04 |
| lotuspsychje | pedrocr: i see you got secureboot enabled, can you try booting disabled please? | 11:50 |
| pedrocr | lotuspsychje: I can try, what would that change? | 12:01 |
| lotuspsychje | pedrocr: secureboot enabled can influence your hardware, aka graphics, sound, wifi etc | 12:02 |
| pedrocr | not sure why, it verifies the integrity of the kernel but shouldn't change the hardware enumeration and init | 12:03 |
| lotuspsychje | pedrocr: before we blame kernels, we better test secureboot first | 12:05 |
| HoLyDea7h | Hey huys need help | 12:12 |
| HoLyDea7h | im trying to set the minimum frequency of my cpu to 800 from 480 (max 2240MHz) 480 is way too low and when needed it takes alot of time to rev up | 12:13 |
| HoLyDea7h | i installed tpl ...didnt work out now im trying with cpupower commands | 12:13 |
| HoLyDea7h | also have cpufreq which is set to performance mode ,but .....its not any different from power save mode | 12:14 |
| HoLyDea7h | i have intel_pstate driver | 12:15 |
| HoLyDea7h | anyone familiar with processor tweaks ? | 12:15 |
| HoLyDea7h | using xubuntu xfce deskop enviroment | 12:17 |
| pedrocr | HoLyDea7h: if you want performance over power consumption setting the cpu policy to performance is probably a better bet than trying to tweak values | 12:17 |
| pedrocr | echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor | 12:18 |
| HoLyDea7h | i changed it in cpufreq the only place i found way to change and it did nothing | 12:18 |
| samba35 | i have gt710 card on linux how do i check whether this card is loaded with uefi or not ? | 12:18 |
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| gordonjcp | samba35: graphics card? What exactly are you trying to check or do? | 12:20 |
| HoLyDea7h | pedrocr, if that is for check its on performance ,but sometimes the processor is just stuck on 480 and no matter what i do it doesnt go up | 12:20 |
| HoLyDea7h | (judging by the cpufreq graph) | 12:20 |
| HoLyDea7h | its annoying to wait for 2 minutes for the browser to start and seeing the processor just sleeping ,and the cpu fan doesnt start its just like idle | 12:21 |
| HoLyDea7h | if i change it atleast i know its gona work on 800 minimum not on the dumb 480 its not 1990 | 12:21 |
| HoLyDea7h | sometimes when it gets stuck on minimum it doesnt change unless i restart the whole pc....which is more waiting game | 12:22 |
| pedrocr | HoLyDea7h: that wasn't to check, that just set it to performance | 12:22 |
| pedrocr | if it's actually stuck at a low value under load then there's another problem | 12:22 |
| HoLyDea7h | thanks ,still want to try out cpupower commands if you are familiar | 12:23 |
| pedrocr | if it's stuck at something so low as 480 I'd suspect a hardware problem, lack of cooling most likely | 12:23 |
| pedrocr | what machine is this? | 12:23 |
| HoLyDea7h | asus x550 sa | 12:24 |
| HoLyDea7h | it never goes hot ....so its not cooling issue | 12:24 |
| HoLyDea7h | atleast hot on touch | 12:24 |
| HoLyDea7h | its notebook i suspect its gona get hot outside if its hot on the inside xD | 12:24 |
| HoLyDea7h | im also down for fan speedup and disabling idle proccesor fan if possible ... | 12:25 |
| HoLyDea7h | idc about any type of power saving i just want it cool and fast xD | 12:26 |
| pedrocr | sounds like broken kernel power management then | 12:29 |
| pedrocr | maybe there's a quirk to fix it somewhere but I don't know it | 12:30 |
| HoLyDea7h | thank you pedrocr if its broken kernel will roll back fix it ? | 12:32 |
| HoLyDea7h | i know ubuntu saved the system on every start but idk if xubuntu does | 12:32 |
| pedrocr | if it started happening recently then rolling back might work, but if it's always been like that it's just a bug | 12:37 |
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| radue | l | 13:22 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:31 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | i am installing 18.04.5, but the display in console in vmware is cut off, so it uses half the screen | 13:56 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | so most settings are not visable | 13:56 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | do you need to change something in vmware? | 13:57 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | i read installing open-vmtools fixes it, but that's a bit hard in install phase | 13:59 |
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| DJ-ArcAngel | i now installed a 16.04, but same problem with install on console, only there i know what to press without seeing the menu | 14:39 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | then distupgraded | 14:39 |
| EriC^^ | DJ-ArcAngel: did you try nomodeset? | 14:46 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | how can i parse those arguments in install phase | 14:46 |
| EriC^^ | you mean you want the live usb to boot with nomodeset? | 14:46 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | yes | 14:47 |
| EriC^^ | are you installing in uefi or legacy mode? | 14:47 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | hmm.. legacy | 14:47 |
| EriC^^ | nice menu in the middle or black/white grub when it first starts | 14:47 |
| EriC^^ | ok | 14:47 |
| EriC^^ | so no grub | 14:47 |
| Sneakyfish | hi guys i am new here | 14:48 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | maybe that was it.. that i installed the other in uefi | 14:48 |
| * DJ-ArcAngel checks | 14:48 | |
| EriC^^ | DJ-ArcAngel: with legacy mode you get a tiny man at the bottom while it loads | 14:48 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | hm.. no, other is also legacy | 14:49 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | maybe it's a vmware problem, i think i didn't use to have this | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | DJ-ArcAngel: ok, press F6, select nomodeset, then boot | 14:49 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | ok.. i'll try that | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | what's the problem, black screen when it boots? | 14:49 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | nah.. half screen | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | hey Sneakyfish | 14:49 |
| EriC^^ | oh | 14:49 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | 800x600 while the install menu has other res | 14:49 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | so half of text is out of range | 14:50 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | i installed from memory now | 14:50 |
| rory | you can hold Alt and click+drag anywhere in a window to move it | 14:50 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | doesn't matter if i resize it.. the console stays same size | 14:50 |
| EriC^^ | DJ-ArcAngel: you might be able to pass a certain resolution to grub and let it keep it after booting | 14:52 |
| EriC^^ | you can pass vga=789 for 800x600 | 14:54 |
| DJ-ArcAngel | thanks EriC^^, will try | 14:54 |
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| isapgswell | i am getting inteldrmfb and i915drmfb from dmesg log | 18:44 |
| isapgswell | is it strange? | 18:44 |
| ThinkT510 | why would it be strange? | 18:45 |
| EriC^^ | maybe they depend on eachother isapgswell ? try "lsmod | grep i915drmfb" | 18:45 |
| isapgswell | is it strange? dual drm fb | 18:45 |
| ThinkT510 | maybe one points to the other or maybe one contains generic code the other more specific code | 18:46 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 i noticed input lag | 18:47 |
| ThinkT510 | can you elaborate? | 18:49 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 i have been testing performance on games | 18:49 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 and a tried to disable framebuffers complete, leave only kms | 18:50 |
| ThinkT510 | keyboard? mouse? gamepad? | 18:50 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 keyboard and mouse | 18:53 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 i only can boot with nomodeset on ubuntu live usb | 18:55 |
| ThinkT510 | with intel graphics? usually it's nvidia graphics that require nomodeset | 18:56 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 intel + nvidia hybrid graphics | 18:57 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 with nouveau driver live usb works | 18:58 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 with installed OS, nvidia proprietary driver i got black screen | 18:59 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 maybe is gdm | 18:59 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 i tried xforcevesa nomodeset | 19:00 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 no success | 19:00 |
| ThinkT510 | !optimus | 19:01 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu uses nvidia-prime to support optimus videocards. | 19:01 |
| ThinkT510 | !info nvidia-prime | 19:02 |
| ubottu | nvidia-prime (source: nvidia-prime): Tools to enable NVIDIA's Prime. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.16~0.20.04.1 (focal), package size 9 kB, installed size 50 kB | 19:02 |
| isapgswell | ThinkT510 thanks | 19:07 |
| Iarla | Just getting reorientated with Ubuntu. Is it my imagination or are there far fewer keyboard shortcuts on Gnome 3? For example, I used to be able to rotate a PDF in Evince with keyboard. Now I have to use the hamburger menu. Is this a trend with G3? | 19:46 |
| leftyfb | Iarla: these work for me in Ubuntu 18.04 https://help.gnome.org/users/evince/stable/shortcuts.html.en | 19:59 |
| Iarla | that's really helpful leftyfb, thank you. Looks like the same shortcuts too. I think they're just not printed in the menu anymore. | 20:00 |
| Iarla | Is there a mature desktop that provides global menu like Unity 7 did? Or are the apps not compatible these days since adopting CSD. | 20:02 |
| dev76 | Hi I upgraded system ram from 4 gb to 6gb by inserting another 2gb pc3-10600s but ubuntu didn't recognize. Still showing 4 gb | 20:59 |
| dev76 | both ram are ddr3l | 20:59 |
| Habbie | dev76, does the BIOS recognise it? | 21:03 |
| genii | You may want to check your computer user manual for the memory configurations it accepts | 21:04 |
| genii | Often they require matched pairs | 21:04 |
| dev76 | yeah that shows 4gb but motherboard has compatibility of upto 8gb ddr3l as per user manual so it should have recognized | 21:05 |
| Habbie | dev76, if the BIOS is not happy, it's unlikely Ubuntu will ever be happy - so start there | 21:05 |
| dev76 | but can you tell me just basic thing with hardware like if older ram is pc3-12800s, then would pc3-10600s be supported as newly added ram | 21:07 |
| genii | In general, if you add slower memory to a system, all the ram will be clocked to the lowest common denominator. But some systems do not accept mixed-speed sticks at all | 21:08 |
| genii | It is very system-dependent | 21:09 |
| dev76 | given that in reverse scenario, pc3-10600s was the older ram and i added up new pc3-12600s in another system, then it worked | 21:09 |
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| oerheks | maybe your mobo accepts only pairs, ECC perhaps? | 21:10 |
| genii | The system will not know in what order ram was added. Only that the configuration is either good or not good | 21:10 |
| leftyfb | dev76: you could also try #hardware, as this issue is hardware related and not Ubuntu related | 21:10 |
| dev76 | leftyfb : says can't join channel you must be invited | 21:11 |
| leftyfb | dev76: try ##hardware | 21:11 |
| genii | Yes, it's a double-hash channel | 21:12 |
| oerheks | ddr3 wants pairs, AFAIKnow | 21:13 |
| dev76 | yeah its not about pairing, one way it works like I said in reverse scenario where older one is pc3-12800s while newer one is pc3-10600s | 21:26 |
| dev76 | but the other way another system doesn't recognize. | 21:27 |
| dev76 | Here is the older one : https://www.amazon.in/Samsung-M471B5173QH0-YK0-DDR3L-PC3-12800-SO-DIMM/dp/B00T592DGG | 21:27 |
| dev76 | and this is newer one : Dell Hynix 2GB DDR3 Memory SO-DIMM 204pin PC3-10600S 1333MHz | 21:28 |
| dev76 | oops , https://www.amazon.in/Memory-SO-DIMM-PC3-10600S-1333MHz-HMT325S6BFR8C-H9/dp/1254875778 | 21:28 |
| oerheks | without the proper info like motherboard, nobody in ##hardware can help you | 21:30 |
| dev76 | I provided them link to system user manual as well : https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-in/latitude-3540-laptop/lat3540om-v1/specifications?guid=guid-e315ddbf-4e3a-4547-8172-c47a1a5d8f89 | 21:32 |
| dev76 | Dont know if they had gone through | 21:32 |
| leftyfb | dev76: please take it to ##hardware. Non-ubuntu issues are offtopic here | 21:32 |
| u_ra | @dev76 crucial lists only 1600mhz ram as compatible with your dell 3540, so it might just be a bios issue https://www.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/dell/latitude-3540 | 21:38 |
| dev76 | any other good channel for hardware | 21:40 |
| u_ra | @dev76 crucial lists only 1600mhz ram as compatible with your dell 3540, so it might just be a bios issue https://www.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/dell/latitude-3540 if the bios is updated and the stick is not visible you can't do much more tbh, gl | 21:47 |
| Nomenclatura | Am I the only one who finds chrome-sandbox 4755 absolutely and utterly unnacceptable? How can people download random binaries and set them root setuid??? Crazy people... craaaaaaaaaaaaazy. | 21:48 |
| goddard | every time i boot into ubuntu it messes up my windows raid | 21:48 |
| leftyfb | goddard: how so? | 21:49 |
| u_ra | @dev76 keep in mind there's also integrated graphics running off system ram so maybe 'there's reasons' for dell to keep ram requirements @ 1600mhz | 21:50 |
| goddard | well i boot back into windows after booting into ubuntu and I have to repair errors | 21:51 |
| leftyfb | goddard: ok, so which part of that has anything to do with affecting RAID volumes as opposed to an unclean filesystem? | 21:53 |
| dev76 | u_ra : makes sense and this is what I wanted to clarify that in general the lowest compatible clock is chosen by system for rams if they are of different clocks given same tech based i.e. "ddr3l" . But this system couldn't | 21:54 |
| goddard | leftyfb: because files get corrupted | 21:55 |
| leftyfb | goddard: it sounds like you are mounting the filesystem in Ubuntu from said RAID volume and it's not being unmounted properly or Windows isn't unmounting it properly so when it gets mounted, Windows flags it as unclean. Have you disabled fast boot in Windows? | 21:55 |
| goddard | leftyfb: usually when it is just an "unclean" filesystem it just gives a warning and you carry on with your day. | 21:55 |
| goddard | this is actually errors corrupting data | 21:56 |
| goddard | at least newish data | 21:56 |
| goddard | is that the same thing? | 21:56 |
| leftyfb | goddard: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup | 21:56 |
| dev76 | u_ra : people on another channel were talkin about dimms compatibility but I dont think that's an issue given both are ddr3l . | 21:57 |
| leftyfb | dev76: please keep the discussion in ##hardware. This channel is for Ubuntu support | 21:58 |
| goddard | leftyfb: interesting thanks | 21:58 |
| goddard | ubuntu solving windows problems since (insert ubuntu creation date here) | 21:58 |
| oerheks | it all depends what you do with that windows raid, goddard, some mysql server that is not properly stopped and shutdown ? | 22:00 |
| oerheks | or anti virus that kicks in :-P | 22:01 |
| goddard | yeah I guess more to it then I thought | 22:02 |
| goddard | Been trying to debug an issue in Ubuntu so I always have to reboot. | 22:02 |
| goddard | Stupid nvidia driver isn't loading | 22:03 |
| goddard | I deleted the xorg config but still won | 22:03 |
| goddard | won't load | 22:03 |
| goddard | since i installed a new gpu | 22:03 |
| goddard | tried to purge and reinstall but that didn't help either | 22:03 |
| ELFrederich | Hi, I have a Ubuntu server running. I created ~/bin and downloaded a "vault" binary there. I also set VAULT_ADDR in ~/.bashrc. After logging out and back in I'm able to run "vault status". But I can't do that over ssh. i.e. `ssh my-machine "vault status"` | 22:06 |
| Bashing-om | goddard: the /var/log/gpu-manager.log file provide any hints ? | 22:07 |
| ELFrederich | first it doesn't find the vault binary, then even if I do `ssh my-machine "~/bin/vault status"` it's not picking up the VAULT_ADDR environment variable I set in ~/.bashrc. | 22:07 |
| goddard | Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c52XjGpqrj/ | 22:09 |
| Nomenclatura | snap = evil | 22:10 |
| tomreyn | Nomenclatura: if you'd like to discuss Ubuntu and its features, there's #ubuntu-discuss | 22:11 |
| tomreyn | this, #ubuntu, is just for support (see /topic) | 22:11 |
| oerheks | goddard, so you claim to have a RTX 3090... | 22:12 |
| goddard | yes | 22:12 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: does ssh my-machine whoami return the same username as the user whose ~/.bashrc you edited? | 22:12 |
| ELFrederich | tomreyn: yes | 22:12 |
| ELFrederich | it's "ubuntu" | 22:13 |
| oerheks | goddard, then you already know what driver you need, and what kernel. | 22:13 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: what does which vault return when run in either variant? | 22:13 |
| ELFrederich | tomreyn: maybe the sshd only reads that file once? Like I said, I had to log out and back in for it to work in an interactive ssh session. | 22:13 |
| goddard | oerheks: at least 460 i think for nvidia and not sure on the kernel | 22:14 |
| ELFrederich | tomreyn: on a new interactive session I get "/home/ubuntu/bin/vault", but via "ssh my-machine which vault" it gives nothing | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: what you described above sounded like you got it to work locally, in a virtual temrinal, after logging out and back in again, and then it kept working. and that it never worked over ssh. | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: but now you're saying it worked through ssh once and then never again? | 22:16 |
| === a999 is now known as m1-curious | ||
| oerheks | goddard, 5.8 or higher.. and this card is so fresh, disable Secure Boot | 22:16 |
| oerheks | 455 driver would work, afaik | 22:17 |
| ELFrederich | tomreyn: from my experience, on new ubuntu machines there is no ~/bin directory. If you create it and put an executable in there you have to log out and back in for ~/bin to be on your PATH. That's been my experience. I'm just wondering, without rebooting, how to get this working over SSH | 22:17 |
| goddard | oerheks: ahh okay so my kernel is probably too old | 22:18 |
| oerheks | fresh 20.04 would give 5.8 | 22:19 |
| Bashing-om | goddard: "last cards number = 2" Sorry I do not know how to deal with twin cards. | 22:19 |
| goddard | oerheks: but not an upgrade? | 22:19 |
| goddard | Bashing-om: well thanks for trying | 22:19 |
| oerheks | i think you need HWE if you are still on 5.4 | 22:20 |
| oerheks | !hwe | 22:20 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 22:20 |
| Bashing-om | goddard: At least ya have some points to work toward - presently there is no driver available. | 22:21 |
| u_ra | ElFrederich: maybe just put link/symlink or miniscript inside /usr/bin, can also include var export there | 22:21 |
| ELFrederich | u_ra: was looking to understand the problem, not really create a workaround. | 22:23 |
| ELFrederich | u_ra: I have a feeling if I restart the sshd service it may start working | 22:23 |
| * ELFrederich tries | 22:23 | |
| ptah | i tried to manually connect my wifi by running /var/run/dhclient-eth1.conf, but it said permission deniied even with root or sudo | 22:23 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: what you described about ~/bin is what i'd expect, too - for interactive shells only. | 22:24 |
| ptah | how to do this? | 22:24 |
| ptah | /sbin/dhclient -d -sf /usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth1.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient-eth1.lease -cf /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth1.conf eth1 | 22:24 |
| ELFrederich | tomreyn: yeah.... where do I edit environment variables for non-interactive shells? | 22:24 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: should work immediately over ssh if it's an interactive session and ~/.bashrc of the very user is evaluated. | 22:25 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: /etc/environment system-wide | 22:25 |
| tomreyn | or.. some place in ~/.config i forgot | 22:25 |
| tomreyn | ~/.pam_environment or ~/.profile according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables | 22:27 |
| tomreyn | but i *think* the former actually moved into .config/ somewhere | 22:27 |
| ELFrederich | tomreyn: so for non-interactive, is there a place to modify per-user? /etc/environment would be for all users | 22:28 |
| tomreyn | pam_env(8) still says $HOME/.pam_environment on 18.04 LTS, though | 22:28 |
| tomreyn | there is ~/.config/environment.d/*.conf in the systemd context | 22:31 |
| ELFrederich | thanks, gotta run... I'll look into that later | 22:32 |
| goddard | Bashing-om: oh really so nvidas driver only supports 1 3090 on linux? | 22:33 |
| ptah | anyone got my question? | 22:34 |
| tomreyn | why are you doing this in the first place? | 22:40 |
| Bashing-om | goddard: No === depends on the card as to the proper driver . the latest drivers from Nvidia are available. | 22:44 |
| Bashing-om | goddard: ^ what card(s) are we working with: lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' ? | 22:46 |
| Iarla | Ubuntu Software, under the Explore tab only shows a single row of Editor's Picks. Is it not possible to browse categories any more? | 22:47 |
| goddard | Bashing-om: I'd tell ya, but I am in windows now. Going to reboot into Linux and attempt to install the new kernel and see if that helps. I will relog in here later and let you know. | 22:49 |
| oerheks | :-) | 22:49 |
| ptah | tomreyn, just wanted to learn it | 22:51 |
| ptah | manuaslly | 22:51 |
| ptah | -s | 22:51 |
| Bashing-om | goddard: Good deal - we be here to try and help - But I say again I know nothing of twin (SLI ??) cards - will be an adventure for me. | 22:56 |
| Geo | Hi, my new laptop w/ 20.04 on it freezes after it suspends- relevant syslog is at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/htjQVDyVqY/ if anyone has ideas on a cause | 23:47 |
| Geo | and part b) I can't figure out how to disable 'suspend' | 23:48 |
| Geo | Under the 'power' settings, 'automatic suspend' is turned off for 'plugged in' | 23:49 |
| parabyte | is there any obscure fuse plugins that can mount an email account as storage?!?!?! | 23:54 |
| parabyte | just out of curiosity | 23:54 |
| oerheks | did you care to check the available connectors in systemsettings? | 23:55 |
| oerheks | 'online accounts' | 23:55 |
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