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| === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin | ||
| Trybble | how can I install the amdgpu drivers in Ubuntu 20.04? Not amdgpu-pro. | 02:13 |
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| sarnold | I think just running ubuntu-drivers install should do the right thing for your system | 02:21 |
| Trybble | Hey sarnold. I have the radeon drivers installed currently but want to move to the amdgpu ones as they are required for a few programs I want to run. Any suggestions? | 02:22 |
| Bashing-om | Trybble: AMD drivers are in the kernel - see ' man amdgpu '. | 02:22 |
| Trybble | Thanks Bashing-om it looks like I'm using the Radeon driver rather than those. Is there a way to switch over? | 02:28 |
| Bashing-om | Trybble: The kernel will load the correct driver for your card. From the man page can you confirm that the card supports the ampgpu driver ? | 02:30 |
| === Trybble34 is now known as Trybble | ||
| Trybble | It's very generic. "SUPPORTED HARDWARE: The amdgpu driver supports SI and newer families' video cards." | 02:35 |
| Trybble | Maybe I'm going about this the wrong way. I want to use some form of overclocking for my Radeon R9 280 but everything seems to need amdgpu | 02:36 |
| Bashing-om | Trybble: No idea of overclocking AMD cards - see thoguh if : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver helps. | 02:38 |
| Bashing-om | though* | 02:39 |
| Trybble | thank you! | 02:39 |
| === popey0 is now known as popey | ||
| cpjulia | hello, can anyone help me with a kurento issue? | 03:19 |
| Liowenex | Maybe | 03:19 |
| Liowenex | Tell us what the issue iw | 03:19 |
| Liowenex | Is* | 03:19 |
| cpjulia | thanks for the reply, I'm having a hard time trying to stream from rtp to webrtc, even though I was able to stream rtsp | 03:19 |
| cpjulia | I'm building an application which displays cameras (either rtp/rtsp based) on a video wall, using kurento do map them to webrtc | 03:20 |
| cpjulia | *to | 03:20 |
| === jrg_ is now known as jrg | ||
| cpjulia | any thoughts would be much appreciated | 03:24 |
| pi0 | i installed a few fonts to use in gimp | 04:55 |
| pi0 | but now when i launch my apps i get this https://i.imgur.com/8GYl99d.png | 04:55 |
| pi0 | not sure how to restore to original | 04:55 |
| pi0 | any suggestions on the font | 05:49 |
| overclucker | pi0: haha, pretty sure I've used that as default font before. | 06:06 |
| makara1 | sarnold: yes i think its resolved | 06:10 |
| pi0 | how do i resolve that | 06:11 |
| pi0 | sorry not sure how to reverse | 06:12 |
| overclucker | pi0: most of the recent guides I just looked at suggested installing gnome tweak. I tested it a moment ago, and you can cjange font with it. | 06:20 |
| pi0 | i tried tweak but that did not work | 06:22 |
| overclucker | is the font only in eclipse? looks sort of like eclipse, haha | 06:24 |
| gjaekel | I don't know how to solve a package conflict on the task of a release update from Ubuntu-18 to Ubuntu-20, because I'm not familiar with the Debian-like apt package framework. The do-release-upgrade fails in a controlled way during the checks. From the logs, I'm able to recognize a dependency problem. But I don't know how to solve this in a | 06:26 |
| gjaekel | "constructive" way. I want to avoid things like installing from the scratch. Somebody with good skill here willing to help me? | 06:26 |
| mrkubax10 | can you send logs to paste.ubuntu.com? | 06:27 |
| mrkubax10 | and put link here | 06:27 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: I have prepared the first log already yesterday but have to stop here for other reasons. Providing the others takes some minutes because it's on another machine. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yp7s8dDdhj/ | 06:30 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10 Thank you for support! | 06:30 |
| mrkubax10 | no problem | 06:31 |
| mrkubax10 | try using command sudo apt install --fix-broken | 06:32 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10 These simple things I already have try without any success. | 06:34 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cM6ZsVhVWW/ | 06:36 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YSR3cWTMNN/ | 06:36 |
| mrkubax10 | "ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'Broken packages after upgrade: colord'" this seems to be problem | 06:37 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: 2021-04-08 11:37:40,919 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'Broken packages after upgrade: colord' | 06:38 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: We cross-over :) | 06:38 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: And now the question: How to solve this? | 06:39 |
| mrkubax10 | I have found this post on askubuntu. It may help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1281969/ubuntu-20-04-1-upgrade-failure-error-dist-upgrade-failed-broken-packages-aft | 06:40 |
| ducasse | gjaekel: are you using any third party repos/ppas? | 06:40 |
| gjaekel | They get all disabled by the do-release-upgrade | 06:41 |
| gjaekel | ducasse: Thank you, also. | 06:42 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: I already know this kind posts. They deliver no solution. | 06:43 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: I'm using Unix since about 35years. I have good Linux knowledge, but not concerning Debian. I'm using Gentoo in general, but Ubuntu for my private Laptop and Desktop PC's to ease maintenance. | 06:46 |
| overclucker | good news is ubuntu-desktop isn't critical. | 06:47 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: If I uninstall colord by the standard way, it will uninstall the whole Desktop environment. That's not the way I want to go. | 06:47 |
| gjaekel | overclucker: Please explain this to me !!! | 06:48 |
| mrkubax10 | So you are using unix and linux longer than me... | 06:48 |
| gjaekel | @mkkubax10 | 06:48 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: Probably because I'm older than you :) | 06:49 |
| ducasse | gjaekel: i know the get disabled, but installed packages can still mess up the upgrade | 06:50 |
| mrkubax10 | I was trying to update Ubuntu 19.04 to 19.10 one day and I was getting kernel panic while system was loading so maybe better idea will be to do fresh installation of 20.04 | 06:52 |
| gjaekel | overclucker: Will uninstalling ubuntu-desktop don't purge hundreds of applications? | 06:52 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10 Sorry, but I don't want to discuss about X-Y-solutions. Of course, this is a way and evaluating this just in this moments. | 06:54 |
| mrkubax10 | Uninstalling ubuntu-desktop seems to not delete other applications on my machine. | 06:55 |
| gjaekel | BTW: This is an upgrade from Ubuntu-16 to Ubuntu-20. And this already work on two other machines. I just don't want to loose this tons of individual fine-tuning on system and the different user accounts. | 06:55 |
| === jelly-home is now known as jelly | ||
| overclucker | gjaekel: nothing important you cant reinstall. you can get the list by doing apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop and then NOT pressing enter or Y | 06:56 |
| gjaekel | mrkubax10: Sounds interesting. Will try to check this. | 06:57 |
| ducasse | if you have ppas installed you need to purge them before upgrading | 06:58 |
| ducasse | if you're getting dependency errors that is the likeliest cause | 06:58 |
| gjaekel | ducasse: Purging means to disable it in the "source.list.d" or to uninstall this packages? | 07:01 |
| ducasse | uninstall packages and removing from sources - check the package ppa-purge | 07:03 |
| gjaekel | root@ovonel:~# apt remove ubuntu-desktop --simulate | 07:03 |
| gjaekel | Reading package lists... Done | 07:03 |
| gjaekel | Building dependency tree | 07:03 |
| gjaekel | Reading state information... Done | 07:03 |
| gjaekel | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: | 07:03 |
| gjaekel | fonts-noto-color-emoji gir1.2-gmenu-3.0 gnome-getting-started-docs gnome-initial-setup gnome-shell-extension-appindicator | 07:03 |
| overclucker | oof | 07:04 |
| gjaekel | overclucker: already to long to paste here? | 07:05 |
| overclucker | yup... | 07:06 |
| gjaekel | Sorry. | 07:06 |
| overclucker | no, it was fun to watch | 07:06 |
| gjaekel | BTW: This installations are using Unity as desktop. | 07:07 |
| mrkubax10 | Maybe removing ubuntu-desktop doesn't delete other programs on my PC because I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 | 07:08 |
| gjaekel | You suggest to uninstall ubuntu-desktop, try to do-release-update and install some packages afterwards to restore "something?" | 07:09 |
| overclucker | gjaekel: not exactly my point | 07:09 |
| overclucker | gjaekel: dependenciey conflicts can be crippling, if say glibc or something critical gets removed triying to fix it | 07:11 |
| overclucker | you probably still need to at least temporarily remove ppas from your sources before you can fix this | 07:12 |
| === denningsrogue67 is now known as denningsrogue6 | ||
| gjaekel | overclucker This apt framework seems to be more problematic as the package managers I'm used to deal with. The concept of additional ppa's seems to be not well-integrated.# | 07:14 |
| overclucker | gjaekel: this is basically the reason snap is now preferred | 07:15 |
| gjaekel | overclucker Or maybe this is more general to the difference between binary distributions and source code distributions. | 07:16 |
| gjaekel | overclucker: This is a "solution" taking a loot of costs on not-very-up-to-date machines. | 07:17 |
| gjaekel | @overclu | 07:17 |
| gjaekel | overclucker (Damn, this web irc client is annoying) Thank you for your suggestions. I may compare the installed ppas on "this" machine with the other which are already at Ubuntu-20, now. | 07:19 |
| overclucker | gjaekel: well, you are release upgrading, it would be strange for old software to still work | 07:19 |
| gjaekel | overclucker From the point of the end user, I expect this is also updated in a seamless way! | 07:21 |
| gjaekel | I can't understand why the release update *disable* the things in source.lists.d, this will force exactly this, IMHO. | 07:23 |
| gjaekel | OK so far. Thank you a lot for discussion and provided suggestions. I have to leave now for an appointment and check it out later-on. | 07:27 |
| overclucker | alright, see ya | 07:30 |
| === ace_me1 is now known as ace_me | ||
| jatt | with 21.04 pipewire is running: https://dpaste.com/H75XZ8G36 | 08:16 |
| jatt | but also pulseaudio is running: https://dpaste.com/3GAN2CV2B | 08:16 |
| jatt | which one is being used in this case? pipewire, pulseaudio, both? | 08:16 |
| Lantizia | jatt, eek - afaik pipewire is meant to be a replacement for pulseaudio - not work alongside | 08:18 |
| jatt | this is on a box that was upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04 | 08:19 |
| fasdf | Hello. I have question. Is there any application, that let's you lock the computer but one application? I know that browser doesn't make much sense, because you can probably browse your filesystem, but you got the idea. | 08:19 |
| jatt | I guess pulseaudio would need to be removed explicitly? | 08:19 |
| Lantizia | fasdf, sounds like you want a "kiosk" mode for your browser... use that term in your search and you should find some helpful plugins to do what you want | 08:20 |
| Lantizia | jatt, I can only guess so... I only stick to LTS releases myself | 08:20 |
| fasdf | That's probably what I'm looking for, thanks. | 08:22 |
| === jelly is now known as jelly-home | ||
| ruenoak | jatt: Ubuntu 21.04 comes with pipewire support but not sure if its default | 08:54 |
| ruenoak | jatt: Have a look here, https://lwn.net/Articles/849639/ | 08:56 |
| maoma | Hello guys, is there any app to automate the deployment of new Ubuntu installations like with Clobber? | 09:14 |
| ikonia | maoma: the debian installer can do it | 09:17 |
| CorvusCorax | Hi. I need to install a package with "apt-get source --compile <pkg>" ... issue is the machine has many CPU cores and runs out of memory during build. I could prevent that by limiting the number of concurrent build threads when I say "dpkg-buildpackage -J 4" for example -- but apt-get source --compile does not specify such a limit and uses all available cores causing out-of-memory kills. Is there an ENV variable or flag to | 09:21 |
| CorvusCorax | apt-get source to pass options to dpkg-buildpackage ? | 09:21 |
| CorvusCorax | ( did I just ask my question during a netsplit? ) | 09:24 |
| clarkk | on ubuntu 20.04, after a few days of my system running, with vmware also running, I get a couple of hundred vmware audio devices listed in settings. I can't find a shell command that lists these devices. I've tried pactl list short modules. Does anyone have any other ideas? | 09:25 |
| clarkk | See this screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc3qug7d8k7n34n/Selection_262.png?dl=0 | 09:26 |
| certaindestiny | Hi all, I am trying to change the "pretty" name of a couple of USB capture cards. currently i am assuming the v4l gets the pretty name from an udev attribute and i am trying to change it when plugging in the device. However it is not working. I am trying to change the attrs{product}= to something of my choosing on a parent device. i am succesfull | 09:52 |
| certaindestiny | of chaing env{id_model_enc} with these rules but seem not to be able to for the parent. Any help is much appreciated as i have been stuck here for a couple of days now https://pastebin.com/jHjrwg29 | 09:52 |
| syb0rg | Is there an officially supported way in Ubuntu 20.04 to use a newer kernel? I would prefer to be on at least kernel 5.7 | 09:56 |
| ogra | 20.04 should get a new HWE kernel with the next point release (backported from 21.04) | 09:57 |
| ogra | (that should be 5.11 then) | 09:58 |
| syb0rg | nice, ogra! Is there a scheduled release date or rough timeframe? | 09:58 |
| luna | August if i remember correcltly | 09:59 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule | 09:59 |
| luna | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule | 09:59 |
| luna | ah ogra was faster | 09:59 |
| ogra | heh | 09:59 |
| syb0rg | just barely :-) | 09:59 |
| syb0rg | well that sounds fine to me, I can hold out that long | 10:00 |
| jeremy31 | syb0rg: If it is Ubuntu desktop it should have updated to 5.8 | 10:01 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 10:01 |
| ogra | that has more info about hwe kernels | 10:01 |
| syb0rg | jeremy31, I am fairly certain this particular machine I installed ubuntu server on, then a DE. That is probably why I am on 5.4. Perhaps my real question should be what packages I should replace/is that an option | 10:02 |
| jeremy31 | syb0rg: Look at the link from ogra, it shows what commands to use on server | 10:03 |
| syb0rg | ah perfect | 10:03 |
| ogra | yep | 10:03 |
| * TJ- is wondering if there are any ubuntu devs 'interested' in the systemd mkosi package | 10:11 | |
| === Whookam is now known as Thin_icE | ||
| steeltowndude | hey everyone, is it cool if I ask a hopefully simple question on a small issue I have with installing something? | 11:10 |
| lotuspsychje | ask away steeltowndude | 11:12 |
| steeltowndude | I started installing virtualbox and came to an agreement screen, but I had no clue how to actually accept it. turns out I just had to tab to select <ok> and hit enter. anyways, I'm dumb and closed it but the process is still running. I can pull up the agreement in terminal but don't actually know how to accept it now | 11:14 |
| steeltowndude | it first came up in like a text editor window in terminal | 11:16 |
| === jelly-home is now known as jelly | ||
| steeltowndude | Ok cool so I got logged out I guess so if anyone actually answered my question I can't see it lol | 11:43 |
| Maik | no one answered and if needed, this channel is logged so you can always look it up | 11:45 |
| steeltowndude | Nice thanks for the heads up, I haven't used IRC in like 12 years now haha | 11:46 |
| Maik | nothing changed so you should know how it works :) | 11:47 |
| TJ- | steeltowndude: are you saying the original, text user interface agreement is showing in a Terminal shell ? | 11:47 |
| Maik | steeltowndude: here's the link to the logs if needed: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | 11:48 |
| viktor_ | hi all. i installed a new SDD in my laptop. First installed Windoze, and afterwards cloned both boot partition and main partition into empty partitions on the free space. But i have to go into the BIOS boot manager to boot Kubuntu. How do I make it dual boot? | 11:48 |
| TJ- | steeltowndude: Where are you installing from? I don't recall seeing such an agreement prompt when installing from the archives | 11:48 |
| steeltowndude | from the ubuntu repositories | 11:50 |
| steeltowndude | with the sudo apt install virtualbox virtualbox-ext-pack commant | 11:50 |
| steeltowndude | TJ- It was the PUEL | 11:52 |
| viktor_ | or maybe i just need to update the bootloader? | 11:56 |
| TJ- | steeltowndude: I asked one of my people that installed VB a while back and he couldn't recall being prompted | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:58 |
| luna | hey | 11:58 |
| Maik | good afternoon BluesKaj | 11:58 |
| BluesKaj | asternoon Maik | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | asternoon even :-) | 11:59 |
| steeltowndude | I suppose a better question for me to ask might just be, how do I just purge the process and start over? | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | af | 11:59 |
| rory | steeltowndude, try to run "sudo apt-get -f install" - just that command with no extra argument. | 12:04 |
| rory | argument on the CLI that is. Feel free to argue with me. | 12:04 |
| rory | steeltowndude may also/instead have to run this command: sudo dpkg --configure -a | 12:05 |
| steeltowndude | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 4493 (apt) | 12:05 |
| steeltowndude | N: Be aware that removing the lock file is not a solution and may break your system. | 12:05 |
| steeltowndude | E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it? | 12:05 |
| lotuspsychje | reboot | 12:06 |
| rory | sudo killall apt | 12:06 |
| rory | sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend (after killing apt) | 12:06 |
| rory | or reboot yeah lol | 12:06 |
| viktor_ | BluesKaj: Good evening | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | hey viktor_ | 12:07 |
| rory | btw to accept the agreement you just have to hold Down arrow until you get to the bottom, then use Tab to select Accept and hit Enter. | 12:07 |
| steeltowndude | the obvious solution lmao. guess I figured the process would still be stuck in limbo if I rebooted | 12:08 |
| rory | try "fg" command maybe it's actually still running in the background if you used ctrl-Z that would be the case | 12:08 |
| steeltowndude | yeah I know that now, seems so obvious but I was confused since it was in terminal lol | 12:08 |
| rory | if you used ctrl-c or otherwise closed the terminal, ignore me | 12:08 |
| === StathisA_ is now known as StathisA | ||
| ruimonteiro | a little od debian can help resolve problems in ubuntu | 12:17 |
| ruimonteiro | basically is a better debian with more easy options | 12:18 |
| ruimonteiro | synaptic can help lot in a scenario of loss of possible control of ubuntu server | 12:18 |
| ruimonteiro | 3 years with ubuntu in Amazon configuration EC2 .'. | 12:19 |
| ruimonteiro | Able Tare Fare | 12:19 |
| ruimonteiro | trust | 12:19 |
| rory | I know they owe me nothing but I like when people rejoin after their issue got fixed. When people leave and I just have to assume that it worked, I get no closure :( | 12:26 |
| Maik | !discuss | ruimonteiro | 12:30 |
| ubottu | ruimonteiro: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 12:30 |
| === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba | ||
| Deano59 | !isitoutyet | 14:02 |
| ubottu | YES, Ubuntu 20.10 is out! Go get it at https://ubuntu.com/download | 14:02 |
| Deano59 | Omg, just update it! | 14:02 |
| Deano59 | :( | 14:02 |
| rory | It's mostly only relevant on release day | 14:03 |
| rory | when lots of people like to come here and ask "is it out yet" ? | 14:03 |
| rory | there is no chance of 21.04 being released early as a surprise, don't worry. | 14:04 |
| leftyfb | Deano59: it's schedule date is the 22nd. 2 weeks from now. Feel free to hang out in #ubuntu-release-party on the 22nd and bug the bot. | 14:15 |
| leftyfb | Deano59: also, as you were told back in October, you can '/msg ubottu !isitoutyet' | 14:16 |
| Maik | sigh, the same as yesterday leftyfb? This is getting annoying. | 14:24 |
| Maik | it has been explained before to him, not sur why he keeps nagging about it. | 14:25 |
| ptah | Maik who? | 14:26 |
| Maik | ptah: doesn't matter, was something before you joined the channel | 14:26 |
| ptah | ok | 14:27 |
| ptah | i thought it was about me | 14:27 |
| ptah | heh | 14:27 |
| Truk | HI, i hava a dual boot issue | 14:35 |
| Truk | have* | 14:35 |
| Truk | i have a "default boot device missing or boot failed dual boot" error after i opened and closed my laptop. Seagate seatools sees my ssd hard drive, i launched some tests and they were ok. I have a Lenovo Yoga 2 laptop, i had installed a dual boot windows 10 and Ubuntu, with refind as a grub. But not lately after this dual boot installation, refind | 14:36 |
| Truk | didnt appear anymore. Now i dont know how to repair the grub, if anyone can help me. | 14:36 |
| RoseBus | i added user to group www-data but still getting permission denied when trying to write to /var/www | 14:56 |
| ptah | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 14:56 |
| ikonia | what is the file system permission | 14:56 |
| ikonia | ptah: please don't | 14:56 |
| ptah | ok | 14:56 |
| RoseBus | ikonia, var/www is drwxr-xr-x 3 root root | 14:59 |
| RoseBus | should i chown to root:www-data? | 14:59 |
| leftyfb | !permissions | RoseBus | 15:00 |
| ubottu | RoseBus: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions | 15:00 |
| leftyfb | RoseBus: no. But you could do g+w | 15:00 |
| RoseBus | adding write perms to the group | 15:00 |
| ikonia | RoseBus: so there you go, only root has access | 15:01 |
| leftyfb | RoseBus: personally, I would keep the user in their /home/$USER and bind mount something like /var/www/html/user to /home/$USER/www and work with that | 15:01 |
| RoseBus | i'm trying to set up a static dir for my django server, running gunicorn as a service | 15:02 |
| RoseBus | for manage.py collectstatic to work, user needs to be able to write to /var/www | 15:03 |
| === Whookam is now known as Thin_icE | ||
| ikonia | the file system permissions on /var/www looks odd | 15:04 |
| ikonia | is it meant to be root:root by default ? | 15:04 |
| RoseBus | idk it's a ubuntu linode server | 15:04 |
| leftyfb | ikonia: I've given them 2 solutions already | 15:04 |
| RoseBus | it came like this | 15:04 |
| RoseBus | leftyb g+w would work even if the directory is owned by root:root? | 15:05 |
| leftyfb | RoseBus: you should be using subdirectories under /var/www. But sure, go ahead and change the group to www-data | 15:06 |
| RoseBus | yes, i'm using a subdirectory in /var/www/static | 15:10 |
| RoseBus | i chowned it to root:www-data and then i chmod g+w | 15:10 |
| RoseBus | now it works | 15:10 |
| RoseBus | ty | 15:10 |
| bumblefuzz | my usb wifi adapter keeps disconnecting | 15:29 |
| bumblefuzz | disappears from 'lsusb' | 15:30 |
| bumblefuzz | when I unplug and plug it back in, it reappears | 15:30 |
| bumblefuzz | can anyone help me diagnose this? | 15:30 |
| ikonia | look in the syslog when it disappears | 15:32 |
| Deano59 | leftyfb: I forgot about messaging the bot, thanks. | 15:37 |
| Deano59 | leftyfb: so there's no chance of an early release? | 15:38 |
| leftyfb | No | 15:38 |
| bumblefuzz | ikonia, the only thing I can find is "systemd-rfkill.service: Succeeded." | 15:40 |
| ikonia | what device is it ? | 15:41 |
| ikonia | is it supported in linux ? | 15:41 |
| ikonia | it sounds like it's resetting | 15:41 |
| bumblefuzz | 0bda:8812 | 15:42 |
| bumblefuzz | been using it for months | 15:42 |
| bumblefuzz | no issues | 15:42 |
| ikonia | I don't know what that identifier is in terms of make / model | 15:42 |
| bumblefuzz | Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8812AU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac 2T2R DB WLAN Adapter | 15:42 |
| ikonia | pretty mainstream then | 15:42 |
| bumblefuzz | no wait | 15:44 |
| bumblefuzz | that's not where the error occurred | 15:44 |
| bumblefuzz | there doesn't appear to be an error | 15:45 |
| bumblefuzz | so, when the wifi died, the netspeed applet I use to monitor bandwidth started throwing tons of errors in the logs | 15:45 |
| bumblefuzz | if I go back to right when these started, there's nothing about the wifi adapter, or usb disconnect or anything | 15:46 |
| bumblefuzz | yet the light on the adapter was out and the device didn't appear in lsusb | 15:46 |
| ikonia | that's what makes me think the device is hanging or the bus is hanging/resetting | 15:47 |
| ikonia | are there any other usb devices in at the same time | 15:47 |
| ikonia | do they still work | 15:47 |
| bumblefuzz | yeah | 15:47 |
| bumblefuzz | everything else works perfectly | 15:47 |
| bumblefuzz | just this one device | 15:47 |
| ikonia | so it's not the bus then, means you can focus on the device | 15:48 |
| ikonia | do you know what kernel module it uses ? | 15:48 |
| bumblefuzz | yeah, I built it a while back from source | 15:49 |
| ikonia | see if that is still loaded, I assume it is as I'd expect a syslog message if it was detting unloaded | 15:49 |
| bumblefuzz | but don't exactly remember | 15:49 |
| ikonia | getting | 15:49 |
| ikonia | also like at the udev device, does that still exist | 15:49 |
| ikonia | you built it from source ? | 15:49 |
| bumblefuzz | how do I check these? | 15:49 |
| ikonia | I suspect there has been a few kernel upgrades since then | 15:49 |
| bumblefuzz | the stock driver doesn't work | 15:49 |
| bumblefuzz | ...the one from ubuntu | 15:49 |
| bumblefuzz | so, yeah, I had to go find one and build it from source | 15:50 |
| ikonia | that's not a good start | 15:50 |
| ikonia | custom kernel modules will often cause problems as underlying system components update/change | 15:50 |
| ikonia | unless you're on top of it | 15:50 |
| bumblefuzz | didn't know that | 15:50 |
| bumblefuzz | also, how can I tell the devs at ubuntu that their driver doesn't work? | 15:50 |
| bumblefuzz | cause it's never worked | 15:50 |
| ikonia | that's why I was asking if it's supported | 15:51 |
| bumblefuzz | they have a stock driver, so I would assume it's supported | 15:51 |
| ikonia | not if you say it's not working | 15:51 |
| ikonia | just having a little read on that device | 15:52 |
| ikonia | what kernel version are you currently running | 15:52 |
| bumblefuzz | ...I'm blanking on the command for kernel version.... | 15:53 |
| pikapika | Is distro upgrading via iso file still supported? | 15:53 |
| ikonia | bumblefuzz: just show me uname -a | 15:53 |
| ikonia | lets have a look | 15:53 |
| bumblefuzz | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XFVh6zSHGb/ | 15:54 |
| ikonia | I'm guessing you're using this https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au | 15:56 |
| bumblefuzz | I don't remember the username | 16:00 |
| bumblefuzz | there are several | 16:00 |
| bumblefuzz | ikonia, https://github.com/aircrack-ng/rtl8812au | 16:02 |
| bumblefuzz | that one | 16:02 |
| pikapika | Thats a good point too | 16:05 |
| pikapika | Can installation of custom kernel drivers cause issues during upgrading? | 16:05 |
| DJones | q 2- fc3 | 16:07 |
| bumblefuzz | ikonia, any ieas?? | 16:08 |
| bumblefuzz | ideas* | 16:08 |
| JoeBk | DJones, are you the guy from eevblog? | 16:09 |
| ikonia | sorry was just reading something else | 16:15 |
| ikonia | youi're using aircrack ? | 16:15 |
| ikonia | why are you using aircrack ? | 16:16 |
| ikonia | I don't believe that provides a kernel module from memory | 16:16 |
| AhmedAmerican | how to set timezone to ET which is equal to 12 pm right now. i tried sudo timedatectl set-timezone EST but it's set it as 11 AM | 16:24 |
| AhmedAmerican | solved ^ | 16:26 |
| === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch | ||
| lavinho | 7j #fedora | 17:21 |
| === Guest42978 is now known as catalase | ||
| ish | I just installed Ubuntu 20.04 minimal install into a virtual machine. On boot, it doesn't not boot into virtual console 0, so I just get a blank screen. I can switch to VC0 and login however. How can I set it to default to VC0? | 17:49 |
| Maik | ish: Alt+F2 iirc to get console | 17:53 |
| ish | Maik: Yah, that doesn't change the default.. Looks like I got it by updating my grub config which seems to be switching to vt-7 even tho I don't have a display manager installed. | 17:54 |
| Maik | ish: sorry, then i don't know. Maybe someone else is able to answer your question. | 17:55 |
| sarnold | /lastlog -clear | 18:06 |
| ptah | can someone revert this ? curprev 01:54, 9 April 2021 LouisAragon talk contribs 11,253 bytes −50 Returning after a few months to pursue the same disruptive editorial pattern? (I.e. putting unsourced content into sourced material). That’s a big no-no. undo Tag: Manual revert | 18:19 |
| ptah | click undo https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Nemrut&action=history | 18:19 |
| ptah | undo LouisAragon he is a vandal | 18:19 |
| Maik | ptah: hows that related to a Ubuntu issue? | 18:21 |
| ptah | please | 18:21 |
| Maik | ptah: it doesn't belong here | 18:21 |
| Maik | !discuss | 18:22 |
| ubottu | Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 18:22 |
| bumblefuzz | when my screensaver activates, my wifi disconnects | 18:37 |
| bumblefuzz | how do I keep the wifi from disconnecting? | 18:37 |
| bumblefuzz | ...ever? | 18:37 |
| === ijohnson|lunch is now known as ijohnson | ||
| maret | I've accidentatly run umount -l /mnt/my-drive and now I am getting error lsof: can't fopen(/proc/mounts, "r"): No such file or directory. What should I do please? | 18:51 |
| sarnold | what would you like to happen? let you view your mounts? or remount your drive? | 18:52 |
| tomreyn | bumblefuzz: those two events aren't normally related. which ubuntu are you using, how are you establishing the wireless connection? | 19:00 |
| maret | sarnold: I mounted external drive, wanted to formated it but couldnt because o fmount so I tried to umount, but device was busy so I run with -l switch and now I am getting the error | 19:05 |
| leftyfb | maret: future reference, do not use "umount -l" unless you know for a fact it's not being used in any way. You were probably still "cd'd" into the directory when you tried to unmount it. You probably still are in fact | 19:12 |
| maret | leftyfb: yeah maybe, what should I do to do the fix I do now? | 19:14 |
| maret | also weird I am getting failed to read mtab: No such file or directory | 19:20 |
| tomreyn | maret: rebooting will ensure that the unmount is finalized | 19:21 |
| maret | tomreyn: running sudo reboot now gives me sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges? | 19:24 |
| sarnold | maret: maybe systemctl reboot? (without the sudo) | 19:25 |
| maret | System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate. Failed to connect to bus: Host is down | 19:26 |
| maret | i might try to reset with reset button | 19:26 |
| tomreyn | which ubuntu version is this? | 19:27 |
| sarnold | sysrq s, sysrq u, sysrq b perhaps | 19:27 |
| sarnold | that'll be a lot like the reset switch but slightly kinder to any remaining filesystems | 19:27 |
| MaloPoDetsky | Hi | 20:24 |
| VMGuy23 | MaloPoDetsky: Hello, welcome to #ubuntu. Please say your support question here or head to #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussion. | 20:26 |
| Maik | VMGuy23: do a simple !ask and then !discuss the next time, easier thans typing the whole thing. ;) | 20:32 |
| Maik | thans/than | 20:32 |
| VMGuy23 | Maik: I typed it out manually, I actually prefer it manual | 20:33 |
| Maik | whatever pleases you :) | 20:34 |
| MaloPoDetsky | i need all driver for ubuntu | 20:45 |
| VMGuy23 | What do you mean by that? | 20:46 |
| MaloPoDetsky | for vide card | 20:46 |
| Maik | which video card, please be more specific when asking for support MaloPoDetsky | 20:47 |
| VMGuy23 | Check in Additional Drivers in Software & Updates, that will often find drivers | 20:47 |
| MaloPoDetsky | integrade intel 600 | 20:48 |
| Maik | intel is supported by default by the kernel, no special driver needed afaik | 20:48 |
| monsterco | I am trying to install smartGit and online I see a guide that asks me to do "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:euegesan/ppa". Are repositories like this safe? Whoever this papa eugene is can he be a hacker? OR are all the repositories vetted by Ubuntu for example so this type of thing is safe? | 21:23 |
| monsterco | since I don't see a URL for repository I am assuming this request goes to a central Ubuntu server and there is a repository and it's information under name papa eugene that is vetted by Ubuntu corporation (?) to not spreading viruses. Am I correct with my assumption or should I be careful? | 21:24 |
| VMGuy23 | I don't know, but its not papa eugene, its eugene's PPA | 21:24 |
| monsterco | yeah, I get that; just a twist | 21:24 |
| monsterco | on words | 21:24 |
| monsterco | eugene PPA sound's equally unprofessional to me | 21:25 |
| monsterco | scratch that | 21:25 |
| monsterco | I should say equally unknown to me | 21:25 |
| monsterco | and then I am supposed to do "apt install smartgit". But what if smartgit is hackgit? is that possible? generally should one not add such repositories or there is nothing to be worried about? | 21:26 |
| VMGuy23 | Personal Package Archive sound better? | 21:26 |
| Maik | monsterco: Everything from outside the official ubuntu repositories, like adding a PPA or installing a .deb file from somewhere, is always at your own risk. | 21:29 |
| guntbert | monsterco: to address your expectation: no, PPAs are *not* vetted by anyone | 21:33 |
| matsaman | not by anyone in particular, you're trusting whoever made them | 21:35 |
| matsaman | it's like the fun of installing a program on Windows or macOS =P every time it's an adventure to see whether it's a trojan or not =) | 21:36 |
| VMGuy23 | matsaman: but Windows Defender | 21:36 |
| matsaman | =P | 21:36 |
| matsaman | honestly I don't think PPAs are remotely as bad as that | 21:36 |
| matsaman | but they _potentially_ are | 21:36 |
| VMGuy23 | (note: yes I do trust Windows Defender when I use Win10) | 21:37 |
| matsaman | it's easily the least terrible A/V for Windows | 21:40 |
| matsaman | for the moment | 21:40 |
| matsaman | but to make yourself a trojan that relies on someone voluntarily installing your software is not complicated | 21:41 |
| VMGuy23 | You dont even need to install it, the installer could be bad. Most installers run with elevated permissions | 21:43 |
| matsaman | I mean, semantics, but yes | 21:44 |
| VMGuy23 | "Yes" is normally pressed all the time | 21:45 |
| monsterco | windows A/V is good | 21:56 |
| monsterco | so the only other way is to install from source to be trusted? | 21:56 |
| monsterco | OR ubuntu official repository? | 21:56 |
| matsaman | monsterco: well | 22:00 |
| matsaman | if you install from source, then you can know that nothing unwanted was added between the source and the binary stage | 22:00 |
| matsaman | but you still can't know the source is 100% trustable | 22:00 |
| matsaman | not unless you personally audit it | 22:00 |
| matsaman | which is still not going to be a huge huge risk, but again, the _potential_ for malicious software to exist is the same | 22:00 |
| matsaman | executing a random binary and building and executing a binary that comes from a random source you personally built | 22:01 |
| matsaman | in reality the former will cause you more trouble, but in a pass/fail evaluation, they have the same security risk | 22:01 |
| lemur | There's a nice article by Ken Thompson (Inventor of Unix and C) about how you cannot even trust the compiler: http://genius.cat-v.org/ken-thompson/texts/trusting-trust/ | 22:02 |
| matsaman | you can only trust what you already trust, and only then when you can trust that it hasn't been changed =) | 22:02 |
| matsaman | this is worth thinking about with your VCS, too | 22:03 |
| lemur | > The moral is obvious. You can't trust code that you did not totally create yourself. (Especially code from companies that employ people like me.) No amount of source-level verification or scrutiny will protect you from using untrusted code. | 22:03 |
| lemur | (from the article ;)) | 22:03 |
| matsaman | I think that's a decent generalization, but ultimately false | 22:03 |
| matsaman | there is an amount of scrutiny that will protect you, but most likely you will never exercise that amount | 22:03 |
| matsaman | you just have to keep the real world and technical realities both in mind | 22:04 |
| matsaman | and if you're not exposing personal data to an application, you might not even be risking anything that matters | 22:04 |
| nyxyn | Currently installing linux on a new machine. I have the option to use LVM. What is this and should I use it? | 22:46 |
| matsaman | nyxyn: LVM abstracts partitions from hardware | 22:47 |
| matsaman | so instead of saying I have on this storage device this partition and this partition | 22:47 |
| matsaman | you say I have on this storage device this LVM, and LVM can pretend a partition is whatever it wants | 22:47 |
| matsaman | it's useful for a variety of things | 22:47 |
| nyxyn | Sounds like it would slow down reads and writes | 22:47 |
| matsaman | like encrypted FSes | 22:48 |
| matsaman | and if you want to change up your physical storage later | 22:48 |
| matsaman | etc. | 22:48 |
| matsaman | I don't think it'll slow down reads and writes | 22:48 |
| matsaman | but it's definitely something most people _do not_ need | 22:48 |
| nyxyn | If I didn't know about then I probably dont need it | 22:48 |
| matsaman | I think the main argument to stick with it on Ubuntu would be if you plan on using one of the popular encryption schemes Ubuntu provides | 22:48 |
| matsaman | which tend to rely on LVM being used | 22:48 |
| nyxyn | Thanks for the info matsaman | 22:49 |
| matsaman | np | 22:49 |
| raub | How do you create a madm raid during install? | 22:52 |
| matsaman | why would you want to | 22:54 |
| raub | I have two disks of the same size | 22:54 |
| realtime-neil | How do I install the `Suggests` for a given package if that package is already installed? `apt-get -y --install-suggests install ...` doesn't do it. | 22:54 |
| matsaman | raub: and? | 22:54 |
| raub | matsaman: any reason against a linux softraid? | 22:55 |
| matsaman | realtime-neil: https://askubuntu.com/questions/556753/how-to-install-suggests-on-an-already-installed-package | 22:56 |
| matsaman | raub: the first reason I can think of is if you can't articulate a reason _for_ using it | 22:56 |
| matsaman | a lot of people use RAID for purposes it isn't really intended for, which is part of why I ask your reasoning for using it | 22:58 |
| raub | matsaman: I found out this box was setup using DDF, which went boink after a BIOS update. So I am not using DDF. | 23:00 |
| monsterco | matsaman, thanks. | 23:00 |
| matsaman | monsterco: for what? | 23:01 |
| monsterco | explanation on repositories | 23:01 |
| realtime-neil | matsaman: that did it -- thank you very much! | 23:01 |
| matsaman | ah | 23:01 |
| nyxyn | matsaman deserves a raise | 23:01 |
| matsaman | I demand greater than $0.00! | 23:02 |
| nyxyn | Whatever we'll paying we'll double it | 23:02 |
| nyxyn | Whatever we're paying* | 23:02 |
| matsaman | raub: well, long story short: RAID is for redundancy of access, which is a fancy way of saying increasing speed of access to data by making redundant copies of it, increasing availability | 23:03 |
| raub | matsaman: I understand that raid != backup | 23:03 |
| matsaman | raub: it's also hard on hardware, and using only two devices in particular is a recipe for disaster; it is not a backup system, please make sure you have a backup system for data you care about that is entirely independent of your RAID setup | 23:03 |
| matsaman | raub: ok | 23:03 |
| matsaman | that's hard to believe if you're only using two disks, but okay =) | 23:03 |
| raub | raid1 for boot is good enough. I will leave the nvme drives for my tests | 23:04 |
| raub | you know about DDF raids so you know why I am pissed after learnign we are using it | 23:04 |
| matsaman | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID | 23:04 |
| raub | Nothing like dd to say "You don't want me to delete that vg? Watch this" | 23:11 |
| matsaman | muah | 23:13 |
| raub | Then let's see if I get to learn the ubuntu equivalent of kickstater this weekend so I can redo another server | 23:14 |
| matsaman | fun | 23:14 |
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