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Kilroyevery time I try to login uing lightdm I get this error01:13
Kilroyrequirment "user ingroup nopasswordlogin" is not met by user Nathaniel01:14
Kilroy(nathaniel is the user I am loginging in as)01:16
oerheksXauthority issue perhaps? ( owned by root) https://askubuntu.com/questions/994127/cant-login-ubuntu-but-can-ssh-to-it01:16
KilroyI can't see that, using direct keyboard access until I get this fixed sorry01:17
Kilroyoerheks: could you please just tell me what it says if you have time? my laptop is with IT and this is my only connection01:25
GallomimiaKilroy, hmmmmmm. it says..... a lot of things01:28
Gallomimiaoh here we go: requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "miranda" is a dead giveaway. Either add your user to that group or remove the directive from your lightdm config.01:28
Bashing-omKilroy: ' echo $XAUTHORITY ' ??01:29
Kilroymy config says nothing about the nopasswordloing01:29
Gallomimiathe page says to chown your .Xauthority file to username:username01:29
Kilroyit is01:30
Gallomimia^^^ from the webpage linked above01:30
Kilroyok thank you Gallomimia01:31
Kilroydo you know the command to add a user to a group?01:31
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Gallomimiawell maybe type groups first and see which ones you're in?01:32
Gallomimiasome hints about how this got borked might be useful. did you do any chown'ing lately?01:32
Kilroynope01:33
Gallomimiatype ls -la .Xauthority01:33
Kilroynathanil01:33
Gallomimiaand then also do what Bashing-om said01:33
Kilroy*nathaniel01:33
Kilroyis the owner01:33
Gallomimiawhat's the group?01:33
Gallomimiathat shouldn't matter much... i think.01:33
Kilroy-rw-------------- (I think that many - I am just guessing on the end)01:33
Gallomimiait's 701:35
Kilroyok01:35
Gallomimiathe command to add a group is usermod -Ga GROUPNAME01:35
Kilroyk01:35
Kilroywhat group? nopasswordlogin?01:35
Gallomimiasounds like what all this is saying01:37
Kilroyok01:37
BinarySaviori'm on lan trying to use SCP to transfer a file from my desktop to my raspberry pi01:39
BinarySaviordo i need to open up ufw for this?01:39
Gallomimiaa port should be open in the firewall yes. the ssh port01:40
Kilroynow I get some error about no such interface01:41
webchat73hello i have question can you help me ?01:42
Kilroydon't ask to ask01:42
Kilroyjust ask01:42
Gallomimia1000+ people aren't going to say "sure"01:42
webchat73ok ubuntu 20.04 in the place with powere on off volume where is the graphic card settings ?01:43
Gallomimiathere's not much in the way of graphic card settings. if you have an nVidia card, there's an app for that. not sure on ATI myself. what exactly do you need to accomplish?01:44
webchat73ok01:44
webchat73 in the box that says software and updates it says no priterty drivers in use01:45
Gallomimia and what GPU do you have?01:45
webchat73built in01:45
Kilroywhat are the specs?01:46
Gallomimiathis does not help figure out what brand it is.01:46
webchat73amd cpu01:46
Gallomimiaso it's an APU?01:46
webchat73AMD® A8-7650k radeon r7, 10 compute cores 4c+6g × 401:46
Gallomimia!ATI | webchat7301:47
ubottuwebchat73: Open drivers for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). AMD has a closed driver named amdgpu-pro that supports the same cards as amdgpu, but it is generally unnecessary. FGLRX is not supported in any current Ubuntu version or in this channel. For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units01:47
Gallomimiai'm afraid i know nothing about that brand of GPU's01:47
webchat73so no way of chginging settings ?01:47
webchat73ok on software and updates , a box that says other software what should be checked there?01:49
Gallomimiai believe you should acquire the proprietary driver, and reboot, before attempting any changes to settings. as i said, i know nothing about them.01:50
webchat73amdgpu-pro i have seen that and ubunto wont let me install it01:50
webchat73you should acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how01:50
BinarySaviori'm having trouble ssh to my computer from my raspberry pi, i have added the id_rsa.pub to my authorized_keys file01:52
BinarySaviori allowed port 22 from my raspberrypi ip address01:53
BinarySaviori keep getting connection refused01:53
webchat73no hekp here i guess ?01:53
webchat73hello01:54
webchat73acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how01:54
webchat73acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how01:54
webchat73acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how01:54
webchat73acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how01:54
webchat73acquire the proprietary driver,  ok how01:54
GallomimiaBinarySavior, are you sure the pi is listening on ssh?01:54
webchat73https://itsfoss.com/install-additional-drivers-ubuntu/02:01
webchat73mine dont look like that at all help02:01
oerheksthat ati uses open AMDGPU, and is already loaded02:01
webchat73How to Install Additional Drivers in Ubuntu02:01
webchat73why does that pic of software and updates not look like mine at all i have no option in there?02:02
Bashing-omwebchat73: AMD drivers are in the kernel. Only the more rescent cards are supported by the proprietary overlay.02:02
Kilroycould be older software02:02
oerheksamdgpu = open, nvidia is closed02:02
oerheksno worries, it is already loaded, so what options would you need then?02:03
webchat73why does my software and update not look like th elink ?02:03
webchat73i dont have thoses options at all02:03
webchat73https://itsfoss.com/install-additional-drivers-ubuntu/02:04
oerheksas you have not the same situation.02:04
webchat73mine looks differnt and blank ?02:04
oerheksso, stop reading that page02:04
webchat73help plz02:04
Kilroywebchat73: you posted the same link02:04
Kilroyand that does not apply to you as oerheks said02:04
oerheksno help, it is already working02:04
oerhekslolz02:04
webchat73well how do i adjust stuff in video seting ?02:05
Kilroywhat video setting?02:06
webchat73there is no control for video if i dig around i can find a setting for the 1900 by 1080 setting but that sit ?02:06
Kilroyyou mean the display?02:06
Gallomimiawhat else might you want to set?02:06
oerhekssure in systemsettings > displays there are options02:06
webchat73like with win7 the built in graphics had feature like screen record stuff to turn upscalling on off02:07
Kilroythis is not windows702:07
oerhekswhy lower screen resoloution?02:07
Kilroynot even microsoft02:07
webchat73but thre features that the vid can do i cant find in ubunto02:07
webchat73ok whre is upscale option ?02:08
webchat73whre is the option the record viseo02:08
webchat73stuff like that02:08
oerhekssure in systemsettings > displays there are scale options02:08
Gallomimiayeah the feature to record video is also not available to nvidia cards in linux. sorry.02:08
webchat73systemsettings ?02:09
Kilroythe gear icon02:09
Kilroysettings02:09
oerheksoh dear ...02:09
webchat73so ubunto crippled my computer?02:09
oerheksplease remove this troll02:09
webchat73thats one other problem you have calling stuff by mulitupile names its confusing02:09
webchat73if you said setting i would be ok02:10
Kilroysettings/systemsettings are the exact same thing02:10
webchat73systemsettings and the word sytem are not the same02:10
Kilroyboth on ubuntu mac windowsxp02:10
Kilroywindows 702:11
KilroyI could keep going02:11
webchat73like people when i go to store and ask for lighters they say what size im like walk off why ask that its what is quanity you want like afive pack02:11
webchat73im disable and you can call me troll mot cool02:11
webchat73not cool02:12
webchat73i was just chatting02:12
www2hi i have problems with upgrading libreoffice for some time: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9mNhdDTZWZ/02:12
webchat73i see the diable are not welcome here fudamentally diffreent and you attack me for asking stuff02:12
webchat73ablesist people here be care full02:13
webchat73no help either02:13
Kilroywtf02:13
Kilroywww2: what is your issue?02:13
Gallomimiayou want better support for GPU's? Talk to GPU makers. linux based OS do the best they can02:13
www2see link i have problems with some of the pagate versions are wong (see link)02:13
KilroyGallomimia: they left02:14
Kilroyjust a troll02:14
KilroyI can't, don't have a gui only cli02:14
oerhekswww2, run sudo apt update first02:14
Kilroydon't copy and paste it02:14
www2rep the problem is for some days02:15
oerheksor even; sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade02:15
www2*yep02:15
Kilroywww2: oerheks has good advice I would take it02:15
www2i do the dist-upgrade but i see that some packets are not upgrade: libreoffice libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb02:17
Kilroysudo apt upgrade02:18
Kilroysudo apt upgrade -y02:18
Gallomimiadid you do apt update02:18
Bashing-omwww2: A PPA ? pastebin to the channel ' apt policy libreoffice '.02:18
Kilroycan someone please help me on my issue?02:19
Kilroyalso? the can;t connect to divice02:19
www2bi ppa default repo (nl server02:19
Kilroy*interface02:19
Gallomimiawishin i could sir. don't quite know what has happened02:20
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+changelog02:20
Gallomimiadid you find the Xauthority?02:20
Kilroyyes02:20
oerheksdo you have proposed enabled?02:20
www2i have curren all update02:22
www2and proposed is disable02:23
www2@oerheks I have some feeling that ubuntu have forgote add some packages to the repo for this update02:27
Bashing-om!info libreoffice impish02:27
ubottulibreoffice (1:7.2.2-0ubuntu0.21.10.1, impish): office productivity suite (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Built by libreoffice. Size 13 kB / 244 kB. (Only available for alpha, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, hppa, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, m68k, mips, mipsel, mips64, mips64el, powerpc, powerpcspe, ppc64, ppc64el, s390, s390x, sparc, sparc64.)02:27
www2@Bashing-om i use 21.1002:29
Bashing-omwww2: Seen so :D ..impish is 21.10 release.02:30
oerheksapt install -f, or dpkg configure02:31
www2nop02:32
www2@Bashing-om i was some what confuse with 21.04 (hirsute)02:34
www2btw i missing the update for libreoffice-java-common and libreoffice-core (current are on v7.2.1 and not v7.2.202:37
www2@Bashing-om what do you think?02:41
Bashing-omwww2: Were me: run ' sudo apt install --reinstall libreoffice-core ' and see what the package manager has to say.02:45
www2can not download02:46
www2same same for libreoffice-java-common02:46
Bashing-omwww2:  What does the package manager say ? best to pastebin the result.02:47
www2@Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/ffG7MfGX (lanuage is dutch)02:49
oerheksreboot, then run again; sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade02:50
Bashing-om!info libreoffice-core impish02:50
ubottulibreoffice-core (1:7.2.2-0ubuntu0.21.10.1, impish): office productivity suite -- arch-dependent files. In component main, is optional. Built by libreoffice. Size 39,023 kB / 135,626 kB. (Only available for alpha, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, hppa, i386, ia64, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, m68k, mips, mipsel, mips64, mips64el, powerpc, powerpcspe, ppc64, ppc64el, s390, s390x, sparc, sparc64.)02:50
www2this is werd the pagacages.ubuntu.com say a diffrent version: https://packages.ubuntu.com/impish/libreoffice-core02:53
oerheksi see you use passwordless sudo?02:53
oerheksy02:54
www2@Bashing-om i have done a reboot and a apt update& apt upgrade: https://pastebin.com/j4SZqV9M02:56
Bashing-omwww2: Himmm .. answer with y - and then what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ? see here if the held packages install.03:01
Bashing-omhummmm**03:02
www2I found the problem some how i have disable main repo03:10
Bashing-omwww2: \o/ ! Good sluething :D03:11
www2anf fix03:12
Shambleris there a way to create relative symlinks without it changing the modification time of the target?03:30
zhenyou14141404:54
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datatechMan. I was troubleshooting a kde app and ended up setting XDG_DATA_HOME and XDG_CONFIG_HOME in .profile. After logging back in, everything, I mean everything starts and runs incredibly fast. I'm a little shocked here.09:19
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nikolamI wonder, I wonder.... I have put in new PCIeX1->2X SATA controller (ASM1062) and now my network interface that used to be called enp2s0 , now is called enp3s0 ..09:45
nikolamAnd VirtualBox VM failed to boot at system start because.. no network interface..09:46
nikolamWhy network interface name changed when I have add a new card that is not the network card to the system...09:46
jeremy31Looks like it moved from port 2 to port 309:50
mortweird, a server can't reach the repos09:52
mortno.archive.ubuntu.com:80 just gives it a connection refused error09:52
mortI can reach no.archive.ubuntu.com:80 from my laptop09:53
morthuh, everything over port 80 gets connection refused09:56
mortand 443, something's messed up and it's not ubuntu's archives09:56
TumulteHello !10:11
TumulteMy laptop (a dell XPS) isn't charging when plugged to my monitor (it's not detected as a power source at all)10:12
Tumultegoogling wasn't much helpfull either... is there something to do ?10:12
avih__leftyfb: fyi, regardless of the fact that it doesn't seem an ubuntu issue, and that i agree it should die, this ubuntu version and ufw actually do happen to be a supported, as 12.04 ESM, which is apparently free to register for 3 months, even today.10:25
TJ-ESM is provided by Canonical not by the user community, and is limited to security patches for High and Critical rated CVEs10:31
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avih__TJ-: it was an anecdote. because lefty* told me i shouldn't ask questions about unsupported things to not waste everyone's time.11:00
avih__and anyway, i asked politely and never required anything. if someone could help - great, if not, also fine.11:00
avih__TJ-: also, the channel title says "official ubuntu support channel". personally i'd interpret it as a channel regarding official ubuntu versions. not limited only to what the "community" knows about.11:11
lotuspsychjeavih__: the support channel here is driven by volunteers, from the community11:15
avih__i totally understand11:15
avih__as i said, it was an anecdote, as a reply to "We can't support that here ... you did [require support - avih] 12 hours ago. And people were wasting their time helping to support something that wasn't an issue with ubuntu"11:16
webchat8684hi. how can i map a device in /dev/ as a file with a filesize?11:23
webchat8684for example specify a predefined filesize for /dev/urandom, map it to something else and then make it accessible as a virtual file11:23
qskwoodCan someone please fix Launchpad's password reset page?12:02
qskwoodIt has a hidden field that some browsers automatically try to fill in, and when they do the page assumes you're a bot and tells you to go screw yourself.12:02
qskwoodYou literally have to open the page in an incognito window in Chrome to reset your password.12:02
qskwoodIncognito mode = nothing to autofill.12:02
coz_good morning12:03
rwinnerHi, I got my first kernel to boot. No wifi. When I try to modproble iwlwifi it says Error: wrong Exec format or something like that. Both iwlwifi.ko and cfg80211.ko are there, though.12:32
sabaHi! I run focal and I really want to completely turn off update notifications and only manually update through the terminal. I have changed "automatically check for updates" to "never" and "When there are other updates" to "display every two weeks". I have also changed com / ubuntu / update-notifier / no-show-notifications to *enabled*. Despite this the update notifications pop up pretty much once a day it12:35
sabaseems. Any ideas?12:35
sabaPerhaps I can simply modify the launcher of the software updater, so it launches /bin/echo? Not sure where that script is though.12:36
Gallomimiaalso would prefer to find a solution to that. not sure tho12:37
andreaHi, I have a question regardin gedit12:41
qskwoodI'm trying to create a package. Is there a document that outlines the required fields in `control` ?12:42
qskwoodThe example given in the documentation includes fields I don't see in an example control file from nginx.12:42
khadashi everyone12:42
qskwoodI don't know what ones are mandatory.12:42
andreaanyone knows hot to change color of some words in gedti?12:43
andreagedit12:43
khadasquit12:43
ThinkT510andrea: are you talking about syntax highlighting?12:44
Gallomimiai don't believe gedit supports formatting of text as in "rich text" with different fonts, styles, or colors12:47
andreayes @Gallomimia, thank you12:49
andreaThinkT510: yes I just want to format the text12:49
ThinkT510gedit certainly supports syntax highlighting. I think it works by detecting the file extension you are using12:50
qskwoodhttps://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-syntax-highlighting.html.en12:50
qskwoodUh, yeah it supports it?12:51
qskwoodUnless we're talking about different things.12:51
qskwoodYou can highlight code sections, you cannot format with headings and stuff.12:52
andreaI think we are talkink about different things, I need to change the colour of some words.12:52
Gallomimiaformatting the text will be done in libre office if that's what you want to do.12:53
andreaSo I think I cant12:53
andreathank you12:53
Gallomimiachanging the color in the actual document amounts to changing the font, style, size12:53
Gallomimiain windows, word pad can do this. in mac, text editor can convert to RTF. gedit doesn't go that far, and leaves it to a full featured word processor12:54
Gallomimiaon windows and mac, the word processors are paid products, so it's nice to have a free one that can do the basics. in linux, both are free, so why bother?12:55
andreaThank you Gallomimia , I needed just this simple thing. I'll use openoffice12:57
BinarySaviorGallomimia, the problem was I did not have a ssh server running on the host13:14
BluesKajHi all13:15
BinarySaviorHello, i'm trying to run a new service, it depends on java 11.  I extracted java-11 binaries to /opt/zulu11/bin.  When I try to run the service it fails because it can't find java-11.  I suspect I need to add the binaries to path variable.  How can I do this?  Do I need to locate the .service file?13:20
Gallomimiaandrea, openoffice / libre office. same thing13:22
GallomimiaBinarySavior, that's what i figured. firewalls usually aren't on and blocking ssh13:22
BinarySaviorI added the binaries to my .bashrc so java 11 works fine for my user, but for the systemctl service it cannot find java13:23
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ErmineHello, My ubuntu freezes from time to time. I've outlined the problem at Arch linux forum: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=264280 . The same applies to Ubuntu 21.{04,10}13:37
leftyfbErmine: why would you outline an issue with ubuntu on an Arch linux forum?13:38
Ermineleftyfb: because I used Arch before, and I had the very same problem13:39
leftyfbErmine: then it doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue. Maybe linux in general or even hardware. Overheating?13:40
Ermineleftyfb: No overheating. And windows works just fine even under the stress (I play games and have no crashes/freezes)13:42
tomreynErmine: keep an ssh connection into the system open from another system, and run dmesg -w there, so you won't miss any kernel messages13:44
tomreynhow reproduicbleis it, how often does it occur?13:45
tomreynread this if you haven't https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging13:45
Erminetomreyn: Idk how to reproduce. It happens roughly once a week13:46
tomreynespecially linux-crashdump + kernel debugging tricks13:46
tomreynalso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash13:47
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Erminetomreyn: I'll try setting up crashdump, but I doubt that kdump will work (It didn't work in Arch case)13:52
ErmineBtw https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe - link for verifying installation is broken13:53
tomreynthat's probably related to "last edited 2016-07-17 10:44:24"13:55
webchat69v2hm13:58
tomreynErmine: http://web.archive.org/web/20200326104137/https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html14:00
tomreynErmine: i updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe to point there14:05
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ZblaceHey Folx I am looking for advice...14:29
ZblaceI am running Ubuntu on USB stick14:29
Zblaceas my laptop HD is corupt and14:29
Zblacecreates terrible noise when accessed.14:29
ZblaceHow do I make USB Ubuntu14:29
Zblacenot to even try accessing HD?14:29
ravageIf it's broken open the laptop and remove the HDD14:30
ravageIt's usually only a few screws14:30
ZblaceI was thinking how not to touch it at all,14:32
Zblacelike to keep using the system without shutting down.14:32
tomreynubuntu should not have accessed the hdd by itself other than maybe during boot14:33
tomreynthats if you booted from a usb14:33
tomreyn...stick14:34
ZblaceYes, but it just did when I left it on sleep mode14:35
Zblaceand than woke up...?!?14:35
noarbI'm trying to write a device driver using an sdk with a prorprietary license, so this driver in its entirety will never be able to be included in debian/ubuntu. With my lightweight driver implementation, can I reference the .so library with a proprietary license so the software will work if a user installs it manually?14:52
KolusionIt can be included in Debian or Ubuntu, people will just have to download it directly from your website or something.14:52
noarbI'm trying to get a fingerprint reader to work with ubuntu desktop: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/libfprint/fprintd/-/issues/115 found a few similar issues like this so there is some demand other than myself14:52
ubottuIssue 115 in libfprint/fprintd "Support for SecuGen device(s)" [Closed]14:53
noarbyou mean that my intermediate driver can be included, and then they would have to install the proprietary shared lib?14:53
KolusionYour hardware must be really awesome, otherwise I don't think a lot of people are going to install it, and you will be wasting your life. Just a warning.14:53
noarbI appreciate that warning. I'm more trying to get it to work for myself and understand this process more14:54
KolusionIt would be included in Debian and Ubuntu's proprietary channels.14:54
KolusionI an tell your a Windows developers. Windows developers are good.14:54
KolusionI welcome Windows developers to come and develop of Ubuntu. The repository is full of a lot of crap apps with garbage documentation.14:55
leftyfbKolusion: stay on topic14:56
leftyfbplease*14:56
KolusionThe process goes like this. You develop your drivers, package it and then join the package website and submit it for inclusion in the next release.14:56
Kolusionlefty, shut the fuck up Hillary Clinton supporter.14:56
Kolusionnoarb, see https://packages.ubuntu.com14:57
leftyfb!op | Kolusion14:58
ubottuKolusion: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu14:58
Kolusionlefty, are you the local loser around here that sucks up to all the ops?14:58
KolusionI don't see you contributing to this conversation other than wishing you where an op and also doing some severe ass kissing14:59
leftyfbKolusion: this is a support channel. Please stay on topic14:59
Kolusionlefty, where are you ops you little bitch?15:05
webchat69v2hm15:07
webchat69v2anyone can help with setting up external monitor xD15:07
Kolusionlefty, I am readying your tragic blog "I started messing with slackware linux back in 93"15:08
lotuspsychjeKolusion: please stay ontopic support15:08
KolusionSo you must be like some 55 year old womanless loser going through a midlife crisis right now15:08
hggdhKolusion: please stop15:09
Kolusion"Currently, I manage 3 ubuntu servers, 1 gentoo and 1 fedora for personal use" <<< HHAHAHAHAHAHA what a loser.... might as well tell us all what your favourite flag is, and stamp collection15:09
hggdhsigh15:09
webchat69v2hm15:10
webchat69v2hm15:42
SircleHow to see cpu, gpu temerature graph. I am going to replace thermal paste so i want to know temperature before and after. I use ubuntu linux16:20
leftyfbSircle: you can use a tool like lmsensors to see temps, though it doesn't graph16:23
KBarsensors-applet though i've never tried it16:24
Sircleleftyfb  KBar ok16:27
TJ-Is anyone familiar with enabling a touchscreen (in touchscreen multitouch mode, not just mouse emulation) in Xorg, or have a device which already does this I can compare config and logs against ?16:29
Sircleleftyfb lmsensors no such package16:30
lotuspsychjeTJ-: a lot of good experiences are heading out from unity desktop rather then gnome for touchscreens16:30
leftyfbSircle: lm-sensors16:30
TJ-lotuspsychje: I'm using Kubuntu, but its not the DE layer its the xinput layer that isn't doing what it should16:31
lotuspsychjeah16:31
lotuspsychjedont have one handy myself atm sorry TJ-16:32
Sircleleftyfb installed sensor-applet but running says no command found.  however psensor seems to work fine16:32
TJ-Basically the touchscreen is detected, and has 3 separate input devices (Mouse, Stylus, 'Touchscreen') but the 'Touchscreen' input is treated as a mouse16:32
Sircleleftyfb same16:33
KBarSircle it's an applet you dont run it from terminal16:35
leftyfbSircle: the command line too for lm-sensors is called sensors16:36
Sircleok thanks16:36
TJ-Xinput view: https://termbin.com/jackc  Xorg.0.log: https://termbin.com/0gff  ... IDs 15 (event 13 'Mouse') 16 (event 15) 17 (event 16 'Stylus'). Note how the touch input (id=16, event 15) in the log is ignored16:39
tomreynwebchat69v2: you "hm" a lot. did you have an ubuntu support question, and details on what does not seem to work?16:40
webchat69v2yes16:40
webchat69v2i posted the question..im just hming to see if im still connected here Xd16:40
tomreynplease use your irc clients' /ping feature for this, or the #tests channel or a channel of your own16:41
webchat7I need help16:44
webchat7Can i make a live ubuntu ubs16:44
tomreynwebchat69v2: please use your irc clients' /ping feature to check that you're still connected, or the #tests channel or a channel of your own16:46
tomreynSircle: if "sensors" does not output anything useful, or not enough, you can run   sudo sensors-detect   to identify more sensors16:51
RadSurferwhen trying to learn about 'read', man read gives you a C-function description, not how it works in Bash! How do I get bash-only descriptions?17:30
dbungertRadSurfer: the manpage for bash is what I use, try searching for "^SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS"17:37
RadSurferseems silly there wouldn't be a more direct route to this information!17:45
GrayGhostsoftware installer stoped working today , I get a blank screen with a circling arrow17:46
Ronalds_Mazitis_hey how do I install qt-creator in ubuntu 21.0417:54
Ronalds_Mazitis_?17:54
sarnoldRonalds_Mazitis_: sudo apt install qtcreator17:57
Ronalds_Mazitis_tnx18:00
sidhGreetings,18:01
sidhDo you know on which mailing list/ forum I should ask for help for a 20.04 ZFS/ZSys install ?18:02
sarnoldsidh: this isn't a bad start; there's also askubuntu.com and then the discourse (I think) forums18:11
sidhok sarnold thx for the info18:29
jhutchinssidh: A brief summary of your problem/question (with relevant details) might get a useful response here.18:35
jhutchinssidh: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?18:35
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Sven_vBhi :) is there a way in focal to switch the gufw profile via command line? couldn't find the location profiles in "ufw --help", only "app" profiles.18:59
Sven_vBunrelated: is there an easier way to discover focal's default sshd config, than to install sshd afresh?19:09
summonnerpackage cache?19:10
sarnoldapt download openssh-server ; ar x openssh-server* ; tar xf data.* ; cat etc/ssh/sshd*config   ?19:12
Sven_vBsarnold, thanks, I'll try19:14
Sven_vBsarnold, how do I check whether install scripts will modify the file after unpacking?19:14
sarnoldSven_vB: tar xf control.* and read the *inst* scripts19:15
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Sven_vBI see, thanks!19:16
summonnerSven_vB,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gufw#Use_Gufw_without_Graphical_Environment_or_Remote_Computer19:21
Sven_vBsummonner, thanks!19:21
summonnerso running the gui over X19:21
Sven_vBsummonner, however, I cannot find there how to switch the profiles19:23
ErmineHello again, my pc freezed again, but this time I have kdump linux-crashdump installed. Both times I had youtube opened in firefox.19:23
summonnerSven_vB, you cannot from the documentation. if you want to do it, it's either via the gui locally, or you do it in the gui via X remotely19:25
Sven_vBErmine, as a workaround, try if Invidious works better. to use a public hosted instance, you can just replace "youtube.com" in the URL with "yewtu.be".19:25
Sven_vBsummonner, I see. thanks19:26
summonnerErmine, disable any hardware acceleration19:27
ErmineHow can I know that kdump finished and I can reboot?19:32
* enyc meows19:33
enycErmine: do yo uhave a hard disk led/light or similar to use?19:34
enychrrm kdump can be set up in various ways, switch to another kernel to recover state, ........19:35
enycor that just saves logs on what hapened then does a full reboot, or allsorts!19:35
Ermineenyc: I have a disk activity led, and it is not blinking now. Kdump is configured as described on linux-crashdump ubuntu wiki page19:38
enycErmine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe  hrrm19:39
enycErmine: I tend to  alt+sysrq+S  (sync fs)  alt+sysrq+U  (remount filesystems readonly or unmount entirely)  and alt+sysrq+B  (reBoot)19:40
enycif you are in a stuck state of some form that may make sense to do now19:40
Ermineenyc: unfortunately I don't have sysrq on my keyboard19:42
enycErmine: printscreen ?19:42
enycErmine: that basically seems t be same key  alt+printscreen+ {s,u,b}19:42
enycsometimes is FN+ something to get prtsc  so  alt+{fn+smethingelse}(can let go of fn only)+{s,u,b}19:43
Ermineenyc: wow, printscreen worked, thanks! Anyway, I've rebooted, and tried triggering crash manually, and there are no signs of kdump activity19:46
enycErmine: I don't recall all the IBM decisions of calling   alt+printsrceen sysrq  or so19:47
enycErmine: i also think particular ALT key can matter in *some* cases.19:47
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ErmineAnyway, shouldn't kdump reboot my box?19:55
enycErmine: good question, may not be configured that way, I don't know, not used it myself, thankyou for showing its' existance to me!20:02
jhutchins"sysrq" returns about 1.5 million hits on Google.20:03
jhutchins...If you're looking for details.20:04
ErmineI've changed crashdump parameter to 512M and kdump worked: pc rebooted and I have core file at /var/crash20:23
sarnoldwoot20:24
ErmineOh, sorry i've meant this: linux-crashdump package sets crashkernel= kernel parameter. I've changed it to 512M and kdump started working20:28
qswzhow to maje terminal show npm.im/ajv as a link (assuming https:// protocol), it works with https://npm.im/ajv but not npm.im/ajv20:31
qswzmake*20:31
sarnoldwhat terminal?20:32
sarnoldit may or may not be possible but different terminals will have different capabilities20:33
qswzLXTerminal20:33
oerheksgnome terminal does this with the VTE plugin, https://gist.github.com/egmontkob/eb114294efbcd5adb1944c9f3cb5feda20:35
oerheksthe list on that page does not include LXterminal, i see20:35
qswzok, I'll probly switch to it20:37
SircleIs there a way to completely shutoff gpu via OS?20:43
enycSircle: do you mean on a  intel<>nvidia  switchable-graphics system?20:43
Sircleenyc builtin m6700 but its not cpu builtin gpu20:45
Sirclehttps://youtu.be/nLdJZjQOIrU?t=38220:45
enycSircle: oh interesting seems to be some kind of graphics 'module'20:53
enycSircle: are you sure this isn't "optimus" territory -- https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA_Optimus  etc...?20:54
enyccould 'switch away' from the nvidia driving etc20:55
Guest73I'm seeing hashsum mismatches from every mirror I try when attempting to update focal. Before I dig too deep is it just me?21:09
RobertDobbswelp, i JUST found out about freenode LOL21:09
RobertDobbsglad I can still find this chat room :D21:10
EriC^^Guest73: apt-get update works here, it's probably your isp's cache21:10
RobertDobbsI am using 18.04 gnome-flashback and I was wondering - Is it possible to run both compiz and metacity at the same time?  In a CTRL-ALT-F2 kind of way?21:10
Guest73usually when I see that changing to the "Main Server" works but not today. Same failures on any mirror21:10
EriC^^Guest73: try using your mobile data or another connection for the apt-get update21:13
sarnoldGuest73: the usual cause of this problem is horrible transparent http proxies21:14
EriC^^they should add some dont use cache feature to apt-get, like curl's pragma:no-cache stuff21:15
sarnoldwell, normally apt caching is wonderful :) it's just the poorly-implemented ISP middleware boxes that intentionally break things that break things, and I suspect those horrible middleware boxes wouldn't respect the headers anyway21:17
EriC^^true :)21:18
tomreynRobertDobbs: I would think that pressing CTRL-ALT-F2 will do nothing at all for you because that should bring you to your already active desktop session on tty2 (gdm3 sitting on tty1)21:21
tomreyn(but i can't really comment on compiz or metacity other than I assume at least compiz won't be compatible with future Ubuntu releases due to the move to (X)Wayland - there is wayfire, though)21:22
RobertDobbswayfire??21:23
tomreyni'm not sure how to answer this question, or these questions, based on the number of question marks.21:24
RobertDobbslol21:24
RobertDobbsmore excitement than a question ha21:24
RobertDobbsso, CTRL-ALT-F2 is an active desktop session already huh.....21:25
SircleIs there a simple way to just disable gpu and use integrated gpu only  on ubuntu linux?21:25
RobertDobbswell, is it possible to have say another use logged into metacity as well as compiz?21:25
tomreynRobertDobbs: i do not know. i do know that these are widely considered software of the past.21:28
tomreynSircle: are proprietary graphics drivers involved in this?21:29
RobertDobbsSircle that depends on what graphics card you're using21:30
RobertDobbsIm sure you could uninstall some drivers and it would default to integrated gpu - but that would be a hack21:30
tomreynsarnold, EriC^^: regarding ugly middleware boxes, the archive mirror list on launchpad does indicate HTTPS support nowadays (finally!).21:34
sarnoldtomreyn: I think that's been there forever21:34
sarnoldit's the main archive not having https that's been long desired21:34
TJ-It's possible to disable the PCI device; e.g. given "lspci -nn -d ::0300" reports the device  0a:00.0  then  "echo 0 > 0a:00.0 " will disable that device21:35
tomreynsarnold: how much do you want to loose on this bet? i'll proove the opposite shortly.21:35
sarnoldtomreyn: dangit your'e right, it's not there even as recently as 2019 :( https://web.archive.org/web/20190223231138/https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors21:39
tomreynyes, i'm just trying to find the relevant "diff"21:39
tomreynbut it's been longer than i was thinking, over a year21:40
tomreyn2020-04-14 has https http://web.archive.org/web/20200414115146/https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors21:42
tomreyn2020-03-06 does not http://web.archive.org/web/20200306063039/https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors21:42
Sircletomaw I am not using any prop dirvers. I use xorg drivers. not nvidia. RobertDobbs  I have dell m6700 laptiop21:43
RobertDobbshmmm, then I am out of my depth on that one21:44
sarnoldtomreyn: and the most surprising thing is that I know the xmission isp has hosted https archive mirror for ages, and I thought for sure that the archive mirror page said they were there, but it doesn't even say that now ..:(21:45
tomreynSircle: try this https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/hybrid_graphics#Fully_Power_Down_Discrete_GPU21:51
tomreynsarnold: i'm sure there are more of them supporting https than those that are listed. maybe some do not want to guarantee that they do.21:52
RobertDobbswhat will the name of 22.04 be?21:56
EriC^^!22.04 | RobertDobbs21:57
ubottuRobertDobbs: Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) will be the 36th release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release April 2022 (https://ubottu.com/y/jj). Join #ubuntu-next for support and questions.21:57
leftyfbRobertDobbs: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/10/ubuntu-22-04-codename-jammy-jellyfish   first result on google for "ubuntu 22.04 name"21:57
RobertDobbstomreyn can I have a second gdm3 running on tty2?22:02
tomreynRobertDobbs: i'd be ok with that (but I have no idea whether gdm would be, probably so).22:04
RobertDobbsthanks for the permission :P22:05
tomreyn:)22:05
RobertDobbswhelp - my computer did **NOT** like running gdm3 as two different users22:25
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jcbjoe2021What’s a good way to do a wildcard search for a file?23:26
jcbjoe2021‘File-*’ ?23:27
tomreynwithin a single directory, or recursively?23:28
sarnoldcan you rephrase it?23:28
jcbjoe2021tomreyn: I will be using find .23:29
jcbjoe2021All sub directories23:29
sarnoldfind . -type f -name '*foo*' ?23:31
jcbjoe2021sarnold: tried that but it didn’t come up with what I wanted. The file was made in windows so it has spaces23:32
* srv running ubuntu 20.04 & win11 both at the same time 23:37
srv:)23:37
srvno vm and no dualboot:)23:38
tomreynjcbjoe2021: keep in mind most file systems are case sensitive, too, there is -iname for find23:39
jcbjoe2021tomreyn: I always use -iname23:39
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