| RAOF | Ooof. `snapcraft` is not particularly happy over a slightly-flaky 4G connection! | 07:02 |
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| alan_g[m] | > <@wmww:matrix.org> As I said in the bug... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/7540114be23fbc6e89a1ffb5696aabf816470742) | 08:02 |
| Saviq | You mean like a new entry point into Frame? Wouldn't it be possible to modify the inhibitor protocol to not require a surface? | 08:09 |
| Saviq | Also, we have display layouts already, if people want to manually control display state, IMO we should work on a way to switch layouts dynamically | 08:10 |
| PHB | hi | 08:10 |
| Saviq | Not to mention we probably want clients (finally) to be able to control the display config live | 08:11 |
| alan_g[m] | https://www.amazon.com/s?k=timer+socket | 08:11 |
| PHB | saviq it's your response from my question ? | 08:12 |
| Saviq | 🤦 | 08:12 |
| Saviq | Hi @PHB, have a look at the logs for what sophie said last night: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2022/08/17/%23mir-server.txt | 08:13 |
| Saviq | > https://www.amazon.com/s?k=timer+socket | 08:13 |
| Saviq | But alan_g suggested a hardware approach ;) | 08:13 |
| PHB | ho thanks, but a .c program is not a shell command:p it's more"hard" for me :) | 08:14 |
| Saviq | PHB you could also create a systemd timer that modifies Frame configuration to disable the display(s): | 08:16 |
| Saviq | https://mir-server.io/docs/ubuntu-frame-configuration-options#heading--snap-configuration-display | 08:16 |
| PHB | the "best" it's not to have snap program connect to wayland for create virtual activity | 08:16 |
| PHB | sorry if my question is stupid for you | 08:17 |
| Saviq | As ogra said last night, it's not stupid :) | 08:17 |
| Saviq | We're here to help | 08:17 |
| PHB | Saviq sure but it' relaunch all mir .. | 08:18 |
| PHB | actually i have simple wifi mouvement sensor | 08:18 |
| Saviq | OK now I understand the use case better, you want the display to wake when it detects movement from the sensor | 08:19 |
| PHB | finally the best for my is my screen with ssh / remote command activate screen if people move behind 3 metres before and shutdown 20 sec after | 08:20 |
| PHB | Saviq exact, we hate power consommation, it's for earth :) | 08:21 |
| Saviq | Then yeah, I'm afraid we don't have anything like that ready-made. We could think of having a `ubuntu-frame.wake` utility | 08:22 |
| PHB | Saviq yes i think it's the best solution but nothing is possible actually ? | 08:23 |
| Saviq | Right now, no, it'd have to be written | 08:23 |
| PHB | ubuntu-frame.wake, like ubuntu-frame.screenshot ! i love it :) | 08:24 |
| PHB | .wake idle 30 / .wake on / .wake off / .wake activity it's great "simple command line for me:p ) | 08:26 |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/ubuntu-frame]** Saviq added enhancement to [issue #84](https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame/issues/84): RFC: Add a `ubuntu-frame.wake` utility | 08:27 | |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/ubuntu-frame]** Saviq opened [issue #84](https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame/issues/84): RFC: Add a `ubuntu-frame.wake` utility... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e51e5137034e9c15628cdd80b3005554ae4b6131) | 08:27 | |
| alan_g[m] | <Saviq> "> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=..." <- But alan_g suggested a hardware approach ;) | 08:30 |
| alan_g[m] | I was reacting to an elaborate piece of bespoke software being suggested. | 08:30 |
| PHB | thank you Saviq for accept my challenge ^^ | 08:30 |
| alan_g[m] | I know that this is not ideal, but it would be possible to write a script that uses "snap disable/enable". | 08:32 |
| PHB | lol alan_g[m] hard solution but not really real time:p i can create /sbin/reboot too or snap restart xxx :) | 08:32 |
| PHB | but people have boot screen not message ^^ | 08:33 |
| PHB | if you can i have last question, but i don't really check before, environnement debian / snap / ubuntu frame daemon, on boot i have delay beetween splashscreen and mir (i see login prompt 5 sec) what can i do for don"t see it ? | 08:38 |
| alan_g[m] | Sorry, we're not experts on the debian boot process | 08:41 |
| PHB | on ubuntu it's better process ? | 08:41 |
| PHB | i have pi4, it's history i use raspbian with pinn recovery | 08:42 |
| PHB | but now maybe i can boot with ubuntu mini on pinn if it's on catalog | 08:43 |
| alan_g[m] | There's been work on "seamless boot" for Ubuntu Core, but it isn't yet perfect. (And I don't know the status in Debian) | 08:48 |
| PHB | but it isn't yet perfect --> you have youtube boot process in pi4 with sdcard to see it ? | 08:50 |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths assigned AlanGriffiths to [issue #2563](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2563): [Mir 2.9~rc2, miral-kiosk] Failure to display | 08:56 | |
| PHB | so thank you very much Saviq alan_g[m] and sophie-w i am look at statut https://github.com/MirServer/ubuntu-frame/issues/84:) and good luck for 2.9 final version ! (i don't know if issue can be implement before 2.9 (i think it's not possible so, i will trying when it's ready to test en edge channel .. so thank you agan for all your hard work it's | 09:07 |
| PHB | really great web kiosk solution ! | 09:07 |
| alan_g[m] | <PHB> "but it isn't yet perfect --> you..." <- I don't know | 09:08 |
| alan_g[m] | > trying when it's ready to test en edge channel | 09:14 |
| alan_g[m] | 2.9 is already on the `beta` channel if you want to try it. It will move to candidate once we've completed initial testing | 09:14 |
| Saviq | PHB if you're seeing the login screen, that's probably easy to disable (along the lines of `systemctl disable gdm`). But one of the #debian channels are likely better to discuss this | 09:14 |
| PHB | Saviq it's VT1 login, not X/Wayland login | 09:16 |
| PHB | but it's just cosmetic problem not really important for domotique usage | 09:17 |
| Saviq | In that case you may want to install a bootsplash, Ubuntu uses plymouth - it will still not be seamless, but may improve things | 09:24 |
| PHB | i config plymouth on debian, but i can trying bootsplash thank's i will search in this direction | 09:25 |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths edited [issue #2563](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2563): [Mir 2.9~rc2, miral-kiosk] Failure to display | 09:31 | |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths edited [issue #2563](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2563): We don't get a clear diagnostic when we have no active outputs | 09:31 | |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths added enhancement to [issue #2563](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2563): We don't get a clear diagnostic when we have no active outputs | 09:32 | |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths marked [pull request #2562](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2562): Release 2.9.0 as ready for review | 09:34 | |
| alan_g[m] | Saviq, do we want to do anything about building 22.10/arm64 for 2.9? (Hopefully the toolchain will get fixed sometime...) | 09:42 |
| Saviq | IMO it's OK to know what the issue is | 09:49 |
| Saviq | And we can react to it if it doesn't get fixed when 22.10 gets released | 09:49 |
| alan_g[m] | Agreed, just wanted a second opinion | 09:49 |
| Saviq | Though it will be a problem when we upload to Ubuntu | 10:04 |
| Saviq | Or maybe not, since 11 is still the default outside of proposed | 10:05 |
| alan_g[m] | We can let RAOF deal with it - as you say we know what's happening | 10:06 |
| -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths edited [pull request #2562](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2562): Release 2.9.0 | 10:15 | |
| PHB | alan_g[m] for information, ubuntu not show login prompt, snap start before result is perfect ! . if pinn catalog have pi4 ubuntu i'am switchting :) | 10:20 |
| * alan_g[m] wonders what pinn is (google foo was not strong enough) | 13:10 | |
| grayson-g[m] | https://github.com/procount/pinn maybe he means this? | 14:32 |
| alan_g[m] | More likely that what I found. ;) | 14:33 |
| alan_g[m] | Goodnight all! | 17:05 |
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