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oerheksinstall wireshark to see that traffic?00:01
leftyfbLionFish401: https://afteracademy.com/blog/what-is-dhcp-and-how-does-it-work00:02
LionFish401How can I use SWAP space to supplament a lack of physical RAM chips?00:05
oerheksLionFish401, one can control swapiness, but it will make your system horribly slower. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F00:09
oerheksspecially with a browser00:09
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ForeverNoob[m]This is an excellent feature! Thanks Ubuntu devs!00:17
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LionFish401What is that?00:19
LionFish401A custom service restarter?00:19
LionFish401Either way it looks good00:19
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ForeverNoob[m]@LionFish40100:23
ForeverNoob[m]Oops. Anyway yeah after I updated it presented me with this prompt.00:23
ForeverNoob[m]It's a fresh 22.04.1 Server install in a VM.00:23
LionFish401nice00:29
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ForeverNoob[m]This on the other hand tho...01:30
ForeverNoob[m]Like... I understand that it's a "minimized" version, but which server distro does not ship with ping :/01:31
ForeverNoob[m]And no `nc` either :O01:48
ForeverNoob[m]`dpkg -l | wc -l` results in 427 packages, so props to the Ubuntu team for enabling such a minimal install, but how would I even figure out why I don't have network access lol :D01:49
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ForeverNoob[m]Like... how do I even deal with this? :D01:50
jhutchinsForeverNoob[m]: Did you want help or are you just venting?01:57
ForeverNoob[m]@jhutchins: A bit of both I guess. I'm now trying the `unminimize` command and see how that goes.01:58
jhutchinsForeverNoob[m]: Just the nic to highlight it for the user.  @ is for twits.01:59
jhutchinser, tweets that is.01:59
ForeverNoob[m]Oh huh, I didn't know my Matrix client was passing the "@" along. That's interesting.01:59
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: also, please don't post pictures here. Use imgur.com or something. The vast majority of this channel is on IRC. Not Matrix02:00
jhutchinsForeverNoob[m]: Not sure what "minimized server" you installed, but I would think most would include networking.  I take it you have wifi.  Open ssid?02:00
ForeverNoob[m]jhutchins:libera.chat: Test. How does this nick mention look like?02:00
jhutchinsDoes the wifi do DHCP?02:00
jhutchinsForeverNoob[m]: Higlighted properly, thanks.02:01
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: what did you install ubuntu on exactly? What hardware? VM? Docker? VPS?02:01
jhutchins(You can also drop the network, just "jhutchins" will do.  Most clients will autocomplete a current nic.02:01
ForeverNoob[m]leftyfb:libera.chat: Are they not hosted on an external URL like imgur pics are? The images should be hosted on matrix.org but I don't really know how it looks like from the IRC side.02:02
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: it looks like garbage02:02
leftyfbMatrix is the worst thing to ever happen to IRC02:02
ForeverNoob[m]jhutchins: Ah ok, that means my client is basically passing pretty much everything to IRC.02:03
ForeverNoob[m]leftyfb: Depends on the client perhaps :p02:04
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: right, in IRC client, Matrix looks like garbage. I'm sure it looks fine in Matrix clients02:04
ForeverNoob[m]Ok, I'll try to keep it as IRC compatible as possible then :)02:05
ForeverNoob[m](I partially blame the Matrix ecosystem for not having a decent terminal client)02:06
cartdrigeThere must be an official Ubuntu channel on Matrix out of this one, maybe a non official on discord too, though discord is not open source.02:07
JanCeven as graphical IRC goes, the Matrix people don't really seem to "grok" IRC  :)02:08
JanCbut it's not really relevant here02:08
ForeverNoob[m]I'm just glad I can have a free IRC bouncer with added decentralized features on top ¯\_(ツ)_/¯02:11
ForeverNoob[m]But indeed, pretty off-topic for here I think.02:11
jhutchinsForeverNoob[m]: irssi is pretty much the definitive text client for irc.  Very adaptable and customizable, easy to run in a screen or tmux session.02:11
JanCForeverNoob[m]: if you think think the server disto doesn't include some necessary tools, it's probably better to discuss it in #ubuntu-server or so02:11
jhutchinsOn the other hand, getting basic networking connected ought to be topical enough.02:12
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: what did you install ubuntu on exactly? What hardware? VM? Docker? VPS?02:12
jhutchinsMight not be anybody qualified though.02:12
cartdrigeIf you're sick of irssi, try bitchx :02:13
ForeverNoob[m]leftyfb: It's a VM, and the image is `ubuntu-22.04.1-live-server-amd64.iso`02:13
jhutchinscartdrige: Does it do non-GUI?02:13
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: a VM on what hypervisor?02:13
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: and what OS is the host running?02:13
ForeverNoob[m]KVM / Qemu via virt-manager. Host = Ubuntu 18.0402:13
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: the lack of network is due to your KVM network settings02:14
cartdrigejhutchins, it's a joke, it's an old linux textmode client. i think it's not even packaged anymore on Ubuntu.02:14
ForeverNoob[m]That's strange, during installation it had networking just fine.02:14
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: how did you determine that?02:15
jhutchinsForeverNoob[m]: Good luck.02:15
leftyfbForeverNoob[m]: I would recommend installing without the "minimal" config02:16
ForeverNoob[m]leftyfb: At one point it said that subiquity installer was out of date, and whether I wanted to download an update, which I did.02:16
ForeverNoob[m]These are the current networking settings: https://0x0.st/oY9Y.png02:19
JanCdownloading that update might actually lead to the install failing   :P02:21
ForeverNoob[m]Oh wut02:21
JanCit was obviously never testen on systems with limited disk space...02:21
JanCtested02:22
JanCnone of subiquity was02:22
ForeverNoob[m]I assigned it a 20 G virtual drive though02:22
ForeverNoob[m]`du -hs /` only came up with 4.3 G02:23
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JanCthen it should be fine I guess (even if 4.3G is insane for a basic server install)02:26
ForeverNoob[m]Compared to my usual Ubuntu installations I was actually quite impressed by that figure :p02:28
ForeverNoob[m](though most of those installations were admittedly aimed for the desktop)02:28
JanCnot that long ago, an Ubuntu desktop install was <3 GB02:30
felipe/nivk spirox02:32
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spirox/list02:34
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ForeverNoob[m]JanC: How long ago was that though? I somewhat remember vanilla 16.04 being pretty storage beefy.02:41
JanCit depends on the desktop you choose etc.02:42
lotuspsychjexubuntu core i hear good things about for a minimal desk02:44
arraybolt3I actually am one of the main testing guys for it, and it looks extremely good for a minimal system.02:46
arraybolt3The one tricky part is that you have to install a web browser yourself, since it comes with just shy of *nothing*. Which is the whole point.02:47
JanCarraybolt3: so how much disk space does it need ?02:47
arraybolt3...I actually haven't checked...02:48
arraybolt3I know it fits quite comfortably on my 16 GB converted Chromebook.02:48
arraybolt3Here lemme check real quick, I have an ISO right here.02:48
arraybolt3The ISO is 1.3 GB, which makes it dwarfed even by Lubuntu.02:49
lotuspsychjei know ubuntu needs 8GB+ free disk to install, does xubuntu core give a warning arraybolt3 ?02:49
arraybolt3Let's find out.02:49
JanC(to be fair one of my main problem with the subiquity server installer is that it will happily start installing an Ubuntu server on a 4 GiB disk, and than crash out without a proper error message because it runs out of disk space...)02:49
Bashing-omGuys: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ :D02:50
arraybolt3^ +102:50
arraybolt3That's where I download it from. Unit193 is one of the main Xubuntu developers (and also happens to be Libera.Chat staff too).02:51
JanCso I was rather looking for a proper server installer...02:51
arraybolt3JanC: Oh. Hmm... If the server installer isn't working, I'm not sure if there's a whole lot you can do about that.02:52
JanCarraybolt3: it's completely ridiculous02:52
ForeverNoob[m]I asked in the #ubuntu-server channel, and if I don't find any luck there I'll just install it again (but this time the "unminimized" version)02:53
arraybolt3OK so Xubuntu Core leaves about 956 MB of space if you install it on an 8 GiB disk.03:01
arraybolt3s/MB/MiB/ (because that matters in 2022 Linux Land, grumble)03:01
lotuspsychjethats bigger then i expected arraybolt303:26
lotuspsychjetnx for testing it03:27
lotuspsychjeive tested that on earlier lubuntu releases on a 8GB ssd, but i couldnt get past the 8GB warning, even if lubuntu installed less03:28
arraybolt3Bigger than I thought too. I guess Ubuntu isn't the best for super minimal machines.03:29
arraybolt3I have an Arch installation that fits in under 4 GB... but this is #ubuntu-discuss territory I think.03:29
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arraybolt3!ping03:53
arraybolt3Great my server fell over.03:53
ubottupong!03:53
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ForeverNoob[m]Found the culprit: I set my VPN client to deny all LAN connections. Apparently this also includes VM networking :(04:35
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Kartagis!logs04:50
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/04:50
ApOgEEexit04:51
Kartagishi. my laptop doesn't hibernate. the output of ( sudo lsblk --fs; cat /etc/default/grub; cat  /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume; sudo update-initramfs -u) | nc termbin.com 999 is at https://termbin.com/x0xo. help please?04:55
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Dell22-04Oh no, the Dell is now dong what my lapwas doing on 18.04 - Ubuntu has an internal error.04:56
Dell22-04and again. havent done anything else.04:57
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cluelessperson_How can I disable a specific multimedia key in ubuntu?07:34
cluelessperson_I want to use the multimedia "favorites" key for something else.07:34
murmelcluelessperson_: a good writeup is https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1218221&s=8c8a0313728ff6e99bdb9a721156406c&p=7675138#post767513807:36
rameurtest08:01
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beuysHello! Day 3 of tinkering with Linux distros is about to begin :)10:34
beuysI wonder why "find / -type f | wc -l" finds about a million files on the distros I tried. Are there really so many regular files in a normal Linux setup?10:34
ograa million souns a bit exaggerated ... but yeah, there are quite a lot of files10:36
kkkssfgues lot of these files are sysfs stuff10:38
kkkssfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysfs10:38
ograbeuys, though there is one thing you should lern about linux/unix systems ... "everything is a file" ... that means you will also find representations of your hardware on the filesystm, and there is probably a ton of files that just provide switches and toggles for these devices10:38
ograso not every file you see is actually a physical file10:39
ogra... but a file representation of a setting or a device10:39
ogralike kkkssf said, there are the /proc and the /sys filesystems that provide the above, in a "find" call you should exclude these dirs10:40
ogra(also /dev should be excluded)10:41
kkkssfhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs10:43
kkkssfon my system procfs + sysfs are about 300k virtual files10:44
ograyep ... and probably another few 100 in /dev11:04
beuyskkkssf: "df -i" might show the number of real files. Under "IUsed".11:05
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geirhaif you add -xdev after / it will avoid descending into other filesystems, like /proc and /sys11:34
beuysgeirha: That brings it down to 300k files.11:45
beuysgeirha: Same ballpark "df -i" outputs under IUsed.11:45
beuysWhat might be the better number? "df -i" IUsed or "find / -type f -xdev | wc"?11:46
beuysWithout the "-type f" the numbers are very close together.11:46
ograwithout the -type f you are cunting symlinks to actual files i.e. non-physical files that just point to another file11:48
beuysogra: Which might be intended.11:48
geirhaand the find will count hardlinks to the same file multiple times11:48
ograright11:48
pasiz[m]hardlinks are from evil in fs housekeeping12:18
FKAShinobiAre there any known issues with file roller not handling bzip2 files correctly?12:20
lotuspsychje!info bzip2 | FKAShinobi12:23
ubottuFKAShinobi: bzip2 (1.0.8-5build1, kinetic): high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities. In component main, is optional. Built by bzip2. Size 35 kB / 114 kB12:23
FKAShinobilotuspsychje: Thanks. I ran across an issue where file roller errors on unpacking a bzip2 file and the command line works fine. I wasn't sure if this was already known.12:25
bitbingeShould I expect that a volume knob on a gaming keyboard will work under Linux?12:26
lotuspsychjeFKAShinobi: dont see a bug on it right away; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller?field.searchtext=bzip2&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&12:27
lotuspsychjefield.has_no_package=12:27
FKAShinobilotuspsychje: The following file does not unpack via file roller on Ubuntu 22.04. https://mirrors.nycbug.org/pub/opnsense/releases/mirror/OPNsense-22.7-OpenSSL-dvd-amd64.iso.bz212:30
FKAShinobilotuspsychje: can you confirm on your end?12:31
FKAShinobiCommand line seems to work without issue.12:31
lotuspsychjeFKAShinobi: thats what the opnsense tut says; You will need to use a software like 7zip to extract the ISO image from the BZ2 package.12:33
FKAShinobilotuspsychje: Wouldn't that include file roller?12:34
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lotuspsychjeFKAShinobi: fileroller doesnt handle all extensions, some cases you will need an extra package/sotware12:35
BluesKajHi all12:37
FKAShinobilotuspsychje: fair enough, but that is not obvious. If bzip2 is not supported then it should not present the extract option for those files.12:37
lotuspsychjeFKAShinobi: actualy, i just unpacked your bz2 file to an .iso with fileroller12:37
FKAShinobilotuspsychje: hmmmm with 20.04?12:38
lotuspsychjeno, 22.0412:38
FKAShinobiIt may have been fixed already.12:38
FKAShinobiI hope it gets backported to 20.0412:39
lotuspsychjeFKAShinobi: im on version; 3.42.0-112:39
FKAShinobilotuspsychje: I'm on 3.36.3-stable12:40
lotuspsychje!backports | FKAShinobi maybe try12:41
ubottuFKAShinobi maybe try: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging12:41
FKAShinobiThanks!12:41
jhutchinsHas anybody mentioned that real posix applications don't care about filenames?14:33
jhutchinsie extensions?14:33
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sarnoldbash command line completions do care, though, which is insanely frustrating at times :(14:49
jhutchinsThat can probably be tweaked.14:51
Kartagishi. my laptop doesn't hibernate. the output of ( sudo lsblk --fs; cat /etc/default/grub; cat  /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume; sudo update-initramfs -u) | nc termbin.com 999 is at https://termbin.com/x0xo. help please?14:51
jhutchinssarnold: You mean when it's completing a command for a specific app?14:51
sarnoldjhutchins: yeah14:52
cosmicrajivhello. just i have updated my ubuntu 22.04.1 and after the update ubuntu is not4 using nvidia driver. also after the update, gnome automatically switches from xorg to wayland. I did change it again to xorg but nvidia is still not usable. this is the output of nvidia-smi and the newest kernel.15:20
cosmicrajivhello. just i have updated my ubuntu 22.04.1 and after the update ubuntu is not4 using nvidia driver. also after the update, gnome automatically switches from xorg to wayland. I did change it again to xorg but nvidia is still not usable. this is the output of nvidia-smi and the newest kernel https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5DxPpNjnsk/plain/15:22
ravagecosmicrajiv, try "sudo ubuntu-drivers list"15:23
cosmicrajivravage, ok15:24
ravagewhat nvidia card is this? if it is a more or less recent one you can do "sudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-520" if it is in the list15:25
cosmicrajivravage: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HRtZQ7YtRX/plain/15:25
cosmicrajivravage: rtx 305015:25
ravagei would call that recent :P15:25
ravagetry the install command15:25
cosmicrajivinstall with?15:26
ravage"sudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-520"15:26
cosmicrajivok15:26
cosmicrajivsudo ubuntu-drivers install nvidia-driver-52015:26
cosmicrajivsorry15:27
* peacefulman struggles to fin dthe PHP logs in 20.04.15:28
cosmicrajivravage: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H7BbDZQRgh/plain/15:28
ravagemhm15:29
ravage1 sec15:30
cosmicrajivmhm?15:30
cosmicrajivok15:30
ravagecan you paste the output of "dpkg -l|grep 'ii '|grep nvidia" ?15:31
cosmicrajivok15:31
cosmicrajivravage: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t57sZYhN8t/plain/15:32
jhutchinspeacefulman: PHP does not necessarily log unless you tell it to.15:32
jhutchinspeacefulman: Check the configuration section of your code to see where it thinks it's supposed to write them.15:33
ravagecosmicrajiv, now "sudo apt --reinstall install nvidia-dkms-515 nvidia-driver-515"15:33
ravagesee if that builds the module without errors15:34
cosmicrajivok15:34
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Kartagiscan you help with my hibernation problem?15:40
cosmicrajivravage: should i restart?15:41
cosmicrajivravage: its working now15:44
ravage👍15:44
cosmicrajivravage thanks15:44
cosmicrajivravage: by the way why its happened?15:47
ravagei have no idea really. i never did an upgrade to 22.04 with my nvidia card15:47
ravageit should have just worked15:48
cosmicrajivyou mean your still using 20.04.xx?15:48
ravageno15:48
ravagei did a fresh install of 22.0415:48
cosmicrajivso you are still on 22.04 instead of 22.04.1?15:49
ravageoh it stopped working from 22.04 to .1 for you?15:50
ravagei though the upgrade was from 20.0415:50
cosmicrajivactually i did a fresh install of 22.04.1 and everything works well. its just after today after upgrading15:50
ravagethat is even more strange. i did not have any problems with updates here really15:51
ravagelets just hope it will not happen again i guess15:51
cosmicrajivravage: yeah. i guess that too.15:52
ograi did upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 here with a GTX970 ... worked flawless15:55
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dustfirefox16:33
dustXPCOMGlueLoad error for file /snap/firefox/2045/usr/lib/firefox/libmozgtk.so:16:33
dustCouldn't load XPCOM.16:33
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ogradust, what release/kernel are you on ?16:41
dustogra, 22.1016:41
ogradid you by chance try a 6.x kernel ? (that has known broken squashfs drivers currently)16:43
ograthat squashfs bug could result in files not being found (or eding up corrupt in ram after loading them)16:43
Kartagishow do we overcome dependency issues with dpkg?16:50
dustogra, liquorix has a 6.x kernel... but it worked before i just did an ff update...16:50
ogradust, it worked by luck ... the bug shows up intermitting ...16:51
ogradust, dont use 6.x with snaps for now ... i think 6.2 will have the fix though16:51
dustogra, thx for the info16:52
ogradust, for reference:  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20221020223616.7571-1-phillip@squashfs.org.uk/16:53
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blindspothi there17:20
ShahNaimhi17:20
blindspotok, just wallking around, but how i can change fonts size here17:22
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Kartagishow do we overcome dependency issues with dpkg?17:24
leftyfbKartagis: please provide details like which release of Ubuntu you are running the packages and their vesions you are having an issue with and pastebin the error messages you have encountered along with the commands you are running.17:27
leftyfbblindspot: are you asking how to change the font size in the IRC client you are using that you haven't told us?17:27
blindspotOh, yes. Sorry. HexChat i have installed.17:28
leftyfbblindspot: what have you tried so far?17:29
blindspoti've checked the settings but i can't see any option for size changing17:31
Kartagisleftyfb: 22.04.1, stremio_4.4.137-1_amd64.deb, http://paste.debian.net/1259083/17:35
ograKartagis, dont use dpkg, use apt ...17:38
ogra((((that will instll missing dependencies)17:38
Kartagisogra: even with .deb files?17:38
ograyes17:38
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leftyfbKartagis: also, submit a bug with stremio to setup a proper repository or better yet, get them to add their software into the debian and ubuntu repo's or even better yet, get them to create a snap and submit it to the snap store17:40
ogra👍17:40
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ograKartagis, first hit on google for me ("streamio on ubuntu") https://www.how2shout.com/linux/install-stremio-streaming-app-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts-jammy/ ... also points to using apt17:41
ogra(oh man ... that tutorial screams "make me a snap")17:42
KartagisI did use apt too but it somehow doesn't install17:51
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blindspothi there17:57
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segamainI'm trying to initialize a .ovpn file with openvpn. I typed in this 'openvpn -- config <.ovpnfile>' and I get this 'Options error: Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in [CMD-LINE]:1: config (2.4.7)18:44
segamain'18:44
segamainwhat am I doing wrong?18:45
ravagethe space between -- and config18:46
segamainravage I still get the Error: 'Options error: Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in [CMD-LINE]:1: config (2.4.7)18:48
segamainUse --help for more information.'18:48
segamainshould I go on a different channel, it doesn't seem like an ubuntu problem to me18:58
segamain?18:58
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segamainok now I get this 'Options error: Unrecognized option or missing or extra parameter(s) in starting_point_segamain.ovpn:12: data-ciphers-fallback (2.4.7)19:10
segamainUse --help for more information.'19:10
stef_hola19:13
segamainthis is the config file I think it's calling out errors but I don't know which ones https://pastebin.com/f5Juyqex19:20
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xipperDo you guys know if an update is coming to Ubuntu 18.04 tomorrow for the latest OpenSSL vulnerability?19:58
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oerheksxipper, no confirmation yet, but i guess it will.20:05
xipperoerheks: thanks20:05
oerhekshttps://mta.openssl.org/pipermail/openssl-announce/2022-October/000238.html20:06
bittingot my other Ubuntu MATE shirt today20:13
xipperMy servers are actually using OpenSSL 1.1 so I guess I an good?20:14
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ravagethis is basically just a release announcement with the additional spoiler "we did a big whoopsie" but we wont tell you what yet. my guess is that there will be fixes for older versions too20:23
ravagewe will see20:23
varaindemianhow an I update to Gnome 43? I am on Ubuntu 22.0420:24
ravageyou dont20:24
tomreyn!latest | varaindemian20:25
ubottuvaraindemian: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.20:25
varaindemianI know20:25
varaindemianI still want gnome 4320:25
varaindemianthat's all20:25
varaindemian:))20:25
ravageupdate to 22.1020:25
oerheksupgrade to 22.10 Kinetic for gnome 4320:25
varaindemianOther options?20:26
varaindemianLike a repo for this?20:26
ravageno20:27
varaindemian:(20:28
varaindemianrip20:28
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ioriavaraindemian,  i'd try flatpak gnome-boxes20:46
varaindemianioria: hmm20:46
ioriavaraindemian, https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnome.Boxes20:47
ograany reason to not just snap install gnome-bboxes ?20:47
ioriait's 4220:47
ogra(at least you get something canonical maintained with that)20:47
ograah20:47
* ogra didnt get that this was about the 43 version of gnome-boxes20:48
ogra(i though it was about running gnome 43 in boxes 🙂 )20:48
varaindemianso you suggest to install a virual machine to get gnome?20:48
ograi guess ioria ment to use a VM to not trash yur main install20:48
ogra*your20:48
ioriayep20:49
ograwhy not just upgrade to 22.10 ?20:49
danteGuys how do you search with grep for TEXT space TEXT?21:01
danteso it's a text with 2 words with space between them21:01
dantespecifically I am using pdfgrep but I suppose it's the same with grep21:01
jhutchinsdante: Try quoting the string including the space, or using standard "escape" characters like text\ text21:05
jhutchinsdante: If that fails, check the man page.21:06
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dantethat didnt work jhutchins21:28
arraybolt3dante: Does pdfgrep have a man page? Try "man pdfgrep" and see if it has anything interesting.21:34
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jhutchinsdante: You may actually have to dive in to "Regular Expressions".21:56
jhutchinsI wonder what pdfgrep does if your pdf is 100% graphical?22:02
jhutchinsThe 'strings' command might also be useful, and could be piped through (e)grep.22:04
EnissayI have many videos in a folder, is there any easy way to check their total duration at once ?22:05
jhutchinsEnissay: No.22:07
jhutchinsEnissay: File size does not equal (is not directly proportionate to) runtime, runtime is often in the metadata, but not in a way that would be easy to parse and total.22:08
EnissayGrrrrr, thank you ;-)22:09
ograyou could probably script something through ffmpeg to get the lenght22:18
ograEnissay, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/587646/how-to-get-the-total-duration-of-all-video-files-in-current-folder-and-sub-direc22:19
ogra(first hit on google 🙂 )22:20
Enissayogra: Haha, I have already looked and user a different search which didnt yield what I wanted...22:22
EnissayThen I made my own loop to get it xD22:22
Enissayogra: Thanks22:22
ogra🙂22:22
EnissayThough, the question was if anything can show it directly... I recall, in windows, VLC tells me the total duration when I drag a folder to it22:23
EnissayI tried here and didnt show anything22:23
EnissayAnyhow22:23
makhelo!22:29
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sybaritengood evening!  How do i typically check whether or not there is a newer version of a piece of software out there, without necessary doing the update? To get an idea of how far behind i am22:46
sybaritenWe can take git as an example. git --version at my place says 2.25.122:47
ravagesybariten, you usually do not get any version updates within an Ubuntu release22:52
ravageonly minor fixes and security updates22:52
ravageso your git version will stay more or less the same22:52
Jeremy31sybariten: in terminal>  apt policy {package-name}22:53
Jeremy31But that is only accurate after apt update otherwise it doesn't know what the current version is22:53
igiaghi22:55
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sybaritenravage: oh! I have to admit i didnt know that, hehe.23:43
sybaritenso i'll just.... leave it at that then.23:44
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