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Urkremind me how to kill an app.  Xournal locked up.00:05
Urk???00:07
pragmaticenigmaHonestly... I usually reboot the machine00:08
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UrkI never have to reboot to kill an app.  It isn't necessary.   There are various tools to kill an app at the command line.  Its a lot faster, and easier on your hardware.00:10
Bashing-omUrk: Like ' ps ax | grep <the app> ; sudo kill <persistenced process number goes here> ' .00:13
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mobbinleftyfb your mom is a whore and sucks my cock on a daily basis02:21
mobbinfaggot ass bitch02:21
mobbinfuck ubuntu peice of shit os02:21
mobbinleftyfb i creamed all over your moms face last night02:22
mobbinand btw i have more ips that you can count bitch good luck finding me02:22
TheReadingEagleYou can finding mobbin02:45
TheReadingEagleIF IT worth hide and seek02:46
TheReadingEagleProb not02:46
lotuspsychjecan we help you TheReadingEagle02:46
TheReadingEagleHi lotuspsychje02:46
TheReadingEagleWhat are you thinking about02:46
lotuspsychjeTheReadingEagle: this channel is for ubuntu support issues only, please use the chat channels for other topics02:47
TheReadingEagleWill do02:48
lotuspsychjetnx02:48
yayohai03:20
MrMobiusis there a way to set network settings back to default on ubuntu server (ie networkd not NetworkManager?)03:24
MrMobiusI was trying to set up a bridge for VMs and now I cant resolve any hostnames at all. undoing the changes I made didnt fix the problem03:24
rboxwhat do you mean back to deafult03:26
MrMobiushow it was right after I installed it03:27
rboxubuntu server uses neither networkd nor nteowrkmanager...03:31
rboxwhat did you chagne03:32
harlinis there a ubuntu social channel anymore?03:32
MrMobiusrbox: what does it use if not networkd?03:33
rboxoh, maybe it does03:35
rboxhrm03:35
rboxi dont have a system to check really03:35
rboxhow did you get netowrkmanager?03:35
MrMobiusim not running networkmanager03:36
rboxthen what do you want to do03:37
lotuspsychje!chat | harlin03:37
ubottuharlin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:37
MrMobiusrbox: restore my network configurations to what they were when I first installed ubuntu03:38
rboxwhat did you change03:38
MrMobiusa lot of things. I tried several guides to set up a bridge for VMs. when one didnt work, I back tracked and undid all the steps. I must have missed something somewhere03:39
rboxwell if youd ont know what you changed03:39
MrMobiusrbox: youre ignoring my question03:40
rboxthere is no magic "undo all random changes" button03:40
MrMobiusits ok to say you dont know if you dont know how to do what im asking03:40
MrMobiusnot random...03:40
rboxyou said you dont knwo what you changed03:40
MrMobiusno I didnt. I said I want to restore network configurations. that isnt random03:41
rboxyou have to undo what you changed03:42
MrMobiusI give up03:42
rboxlol03:42
MrMobiusI cant tell if youre trolling03:43
rbox[08:40:21 PM] <rbox> there is no magic "undo all random changes" button03:43
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arraybolt3MrMobius: Ubuntu uses Netplan, if I remember correctly. That might give you some info.04:05
arraybolt3Netplan then uses either NetworkManager or systemd-networkd, so it probably is networkd if you're not using nm.04:05
arraybolt3however depending on what you've done, you might have broken firewall rules too. Did you run any iptables or nft commands? If so, what are the exact commands you ran?04:06
MrMobiusarraybolt3: thanks. no, didnt modify iptables or touch firewall stuff04:06
arraybolt3Did you edit any Netplan-related files?04:06
arraybolt3If you can't resolve anything, that's probably a problem with systemd-resolved, not networkd.04:07
arraybolt3Like rbox said, there is no "reset network configuration" command, so sadly we will have to diagnose *why* things can't resolve. That's doable though.04:07
MrMobiusarraybolt3: here is one I tried then reverted for example: https://major.io/p/creating-a-bridge-for-virtual-machines-using-systemd-networkd/04:07
arraybolt3To begin with, however, there's an easy "emergency get resolving back right now" solution: `mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf.bak && cp /etc/resolv.conf.back /etc/resolv.conf && nano /etc/resolv.conf`04:08
arraybolt3then change the nameserver line to point to 8.8.8.8 (if you're OK using Google's DNS)04:08
arraybolt3that will give you enough resolution abilities to be able to get logs out of the server for debugging.04:08
arraybolt3We can undo that later pretty easily once we've fixed whatever's wrong.04:09
arraybolt3I think you're not *supposed* to mess with systemd-networkd directly in Ubuntu. You configure things in Netplan, then it takes over. So it's possible there's a conflict causing these issues.04:10
MrMobiusarraybolt3: resolv.conf is missing04:14
arraybolt3that's why you can't resolve anything :)04:14
arraybolt3sooo... one sec04:14
arraybolt3does /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf exist?04:14
MrMobiusyep04:15
MrMobiusI installed on a VM just now to compare and thats where the link points04:15
arraybolt3yep04:16
arraybolt3so `cd /etc && ln -s /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf ./resolv.conf`04:16
arraybolt3then `ping -c1 google.com` and see what happens04:16
MrMobiusit works!04:19
MrMobiusthanks a lot04:19
arraybolt3MrMobius: Glad to help!04:21
slotXhi guys :)04:33
TheReadingEagleCan you use unbound without having root04:34
slotXi need some help04:34
slotXTheReadingEagle04:34
slotXI can04:34
TheReadingEagleHi04:34
TheReadingEagleHow do you resolve without root04:34
TheReadingEagleIs there any signed dns I can connect to04:35
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aienaI have IBUS installed and 2 keyboard layouts. If I switch to one language and in the top ribbon choose show keyboard layout it shows the correct layout but the ubuntu on screen keyboard shows the wrong layout04:54
aienaHow to make the on screen keyboard match the layout of the keyboard shown in show keyboard layout?04:54
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Jakovwhy my history file content is different from what history command prints07:58
_RandomPlease can you guys help out, and shed some light to a non techie what this issue might be related to. It's in relation to my laptop wifi sysemctrl logs for atk10k _pci https://dpaste.org/9XVu5  Any thoughts would be really appreciated.08:07
TheReadingEagleBig big light bright08:12
TheReadingEagleSo big _Random08:13
TheReadingEagleLike biggest angel08:13
TheReadingEagleSo big08:13
TheReadingEagleBig!08:14
TheReadingEagleWhoa!08:14
TheReadingEagleHigh resolution08:14
TheReadingEagleRising lime the sun on the horizon08:14
TheReadingEagleFull of hatred for Satan08:14
TheReadingEagleWhoa!08:15
TheReadingEagleBig08:15
TheReadingEagleOne mean angel08:15
TheReadingEagleSatan no match08:15
TheReadingEagleOne meeeeeean angel08:16
TheReadingEagleSo bright08:16
TheReadingEagleSo big08:16
TheReadingEagleSo much kelvin08:16
TheReadingEagleSo much data08:16
TheReadingEagleWe cannot handle08:17
TheReadingEagleLime he been sleeping and you woke up him08:17
* enyc meows TheReadingEagle 08:20
enycTheReadingEagle: this is Ubuntu support channel08:20
enycTheReadingEagle: not sure your writing is best in here...08:20
TheReadingEagleYeah I can write better08:21
TheReadingEagleThere was a falling out you know these things happen08:22
TheReadingEagleThey murdered the wrong guy08:22
TheReadingEagleThat was it08:22
TheReadingEagleIt was like overkill from then on out08:23
TheReadingEagleGreat and dreadful day08:23
TheReadingEagleAmun ra was like a candle in the wind and this is only an angel08:25
finleyBruh08:26
TheReadingEagleWhat was that a hyperthread trigger " bruh "08:29
TheReadingEagleWhen those smoke detectors wear down people seem to appear from thin air08:30
TheReadingEagleWhere did they come from?08:31
TheReadingEagleGuess the sun ain't nothing but a pilot light huh08:32
TheReadingEagleDon't know about those NASA stories08:32
TheReadingEagleDoes that only apply when the smoke detectors are strong08:33
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TheReadingEagleAre astronauts lime beelzebubs flies08:34
TheReadingEagleDo you got like a bug zapper08:34
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TheReadingEagleHow do you channel electricity from heaven08:35
TheReadingEagleMaybe you can bug zap08:35
TheReadingEagleZapotec08:35
TheReadingEagleFarproc08:36
TheReadingEagleDo you want me to explain to you08:38
guivercTheReadingEagle, how does any of ^ relate to Ubuntu Support; please stay on-topic.08:39
TheReadingEagleguiverc: no disrespek08:40
TheReadingEagleHe the Angel has a heart given him INRI08:40
TheReadingEagleSo he is much part I myself08:40
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TheReadingEagleSo you get your moments is blessed if you feel Holy Spirit come into you08:47
TheReadingEagleIf you need to repent because you are not promised tomorrow08:47
TheReadingEagleI LIKE Silas somewhat where I do a gorm of mentat catharsis08:49
TheReadingEagleI LIKE Silas somewhat where I do a form of mentat catharsis08:49
TheReadingEagleIt is why I personal God08:49
TheReadingEagleAnd sometimes I almost feel regret on punish human08:50
TheReadingEagleAnd so I warn and invite again in mercy08:50
TheReadingEagleBecause I God repented you see I bedazzling08:50
AlexCo_O08:56
TheReadingEagleAs far as succinctly Ubuntu I was installing MediaWiki andcstuck on step 2 php.ini. How do you search for file from cli08:57
TheReadingEagleSearch for php.ini08:57
TheReadingEagleYour session data was lost! Check your php.ini and make sure session.save_path is set to an appropriate directory.08:59
TheReadingEagleThat sounds like a windows thing09:00
TheReadingEagle.ini09:00
TheReadingEagleThat goes back to DOS09:01
TheReadingEagleDid you look that up DOS creator09:01
TheReadingEagleTIMOTHY09:01
TheReadingEagleI can possibly use the same method to reach the firmament as in Genisis where it seems to conflict with a NASA worldview and I ponder where to place it if it is not all a lie as a Hollywood basement09:03
TheReadingEagleThe idea they are in space though the far process labels it rather as a illusion09:03
TheReadingEagleIt is actually a sort of VM09:04
TheReadingEagleBut the astronauts apparently have a story of being in space , illusion however is a distraction so back to DOS09:05
TheReadingEagleThe tertragrammatron was quite possible used to juxtapose the imagination of Timothy09:06
TheReadingEagleSo in an instant the imagination exist inside the chip.09:07
TheReadingEagleThe chip then processes the feed.09:07
TheReadingEagleThis is the 86-DOS09:07
TheReadingEagle86 seems to be most popular chip09:08
TheReadingEagleIntel and all of nasa only alternative is maybe arm and sun sparc09:09
TheReadingEagle86 is largest or most used09:09
TheReadingEagleSo I will begin mapping the universe and put into my wiki09:10
TheReadingEagleMediawiki09:10
TheReadingEagleMediawiki is the source of Wikipedia and it is called the begin and end of intelligence09:11
TheReadingEagleCIA09:11
TheReadingEagleSo I install my CIA09:11
TheReadingEagleYou help AlexC09:11
TheReadingEaglePhp.ini not found09:11
TheReadingEagleHow to search for it09:12
TheReadingEaglefind: ‘php.ini’: No such file or directory09:12
TheReadingEagleI'D sort-of be interested in going back to DOS09:14
TheReadingEagleThis is like a big wide ocean of trash09:15
whiskey76wth09:15
TheReadingEagleHi bud09:16
TheReadingEagleYou keep alcoholics happy09:16
TheReadingEaglewhiskey76: hi, do You keep alcoholics happy?09:17
TheReadingEagleLet's give up a round of applause for Ubuntu09:21
TheReadingEagleTonight the Ubuntu community made help by showing how to make a php test file09:22
* TheReadingEagle claps09:22
TheReadingEaglehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lighttpd+PHP09:22
TheReadingEagleYay Ubuntu09:23
TheReadingEagleYou did it!09:23
* TheReadingEagle claps09:23
TheReadingEagleLooks like a best dog gone machine09:24
TheReadingEagle best dog gone machine !09:25
* TheReadingEagle pets enyc09:26
TheReadingEagleI ALways had trouble using the find command09:29
TheReadingEagleMaybe it is hard to compete with DOS09:29
TheReadingEagleYou tried to reinvent the wheel and didn't roll09:29
TheReadingEagleDidn't go anywhere with it09:30
TheReadingEagleSo I was looking at doing a DOSbox inside Ubuntu09:30
TheReadingEagleBut it seems it doesn't actually run dos09:30
TheReadingEagleIt's like an avi or something that looks like dos09:31
TheReadingEagleSuddenly commies surround you telling you " everything same same upgrade now "09:32
TheReadingEagleUpgrade to communist coupon software09:32
TheReadingEagleLike Everything same same!09:32
TheReadingEagleThe smoke detectors get weak and clowns pop up from behind bshes with coupons09:33
TheReadingEaglePot is more plentiful than dogshit how do they sell it09:34
TheReadingEagleBro I could go to dogpark and scoop my own09:34
TheReadingEagleFree dogshit09:34
TheReadingEagleA bunch of farproc retards walking dogs09:35
TheReadingEagleWith a dog's hit gpg getup from freebsd09:35
TheReadingEagleSmells like bad sausages in there what js the problem you cover up with opioid bubble gum09:36
TheReadingEagleIt smells like steevia sweetener with poppey sap09:37
TheReadingEagleWhat a dog park09:37
TheReadingEagleGet me out of here09:37
TheReadingEagleGet me out of here09:38
TheReadingEagleGet me out of here09:38
TheReadingEagleAlexC: can you feel your toes09:39
AlexCno, i have no toes09:39
TheReadingEagleAmputee veteran?09:39
AlexCyes09:40
TheReadingEagleAmerica bit dust do you want me to bring you under my wing09:40
TheReadingEagleAlexC: sometimes guys report still feeling appendages after amputee09:42
TheReadingEagleIt's on the record09:42
TheReadingEagleIf you don't get like duck tard retards with paper liscrnce plates claiming to be government09:43
TheReadingEagleAll of libera and you can't get answer to a simple question09:47
TheReadingEagleWhere is php.ini09:47
AlexCpeople are working/having life my dude09:49
AlexCyou can use google09:49
TheReadingEagleAlexC: I could probly make you new legs09:54
TheReadingEagleSome guy had a cadaver09:55
TheReadingEagleIf you still feel it the nerves would likely take09:56
TheReadingEagleIt's wonderful you know09:56
TheReadingEagleThat may be why you don't care ready to let go if needed09:57
TheReadingEagleThat sort of answers why miraculous healing are so rare09:57
TheReadingEagleLike the new series Chosen shows Jesus standing there like sorting through thoughts to look for that one invalid in all of Herusalem to heal with mighty powers which otherwise get not used09:58
TheReadingEagleMighty healing power09:59
TheReadingEagleYou know in a dogpark full of atheist it's like healing f that we want whiskey10:00
TheReadingEagleThis is an amputee that don't need no comfort sounds hard core like Lt. DAN10:02
TheReadingEagleWhat do you want to do tonight AlexC10:05
TheReadingEagleForget php wiki huh10:05
TheReadingEagleNever get to mapping my realScience10:05
TheReadingEagleShould be able to shake the tectonic plates10:06
TheReadingEagleFar from the Sha LA LA low10:11
CosmicDJ!ops10:12
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant10:12
TheReadingEagleit is as if CosmicDJ was frozen and AlexC  let up on it and here come my attackers again10:13
TheReadingEaglecalls 18 cops10:14
TheReadingEagleducks pop out pointing guns in your face10:14
TheReadingEaglepolicemens ball10:15
TheReadingEaglepolicemens ball libera.chat10:15
TheReadingEagleI found signs of life in an amputee and get punished for it10:16
TheReadingEagleCarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant on your way past tbe 12 illegal pot shops to beat me into a car10:17
CosmicDJDrone: thanks10:18
hasevilHi guys, anybody have troble installing jre on mantic. Specifically `default-jre`10:32
CosmicDJhasevil: I did "sudo apt install default-jre-headless" for minecraft on mantic/amd64 and it worked fine10:34
hasevilhmm, for me it's not working10:35
hasevili'm encountring this `https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/2019908`10:35
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2019908 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "openjdk-17-jre-headless:arm64 Package ca-certificates-java is not configured yet" [Undecided, Fix Released]10:35
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hasevilnvm, an update fixed it10:53
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armadefuego1Is this the right place to ask about a misbehaving mouse incat /etc/lsb-release11:59
armadefuego1DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu11:59
armadefuego1DISTRIB_RELEASE=23.0411:59
armadefuego1DISTRIB_CODENAME=lunar11:59
armadefuego1DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 23.04"11:59
NLBenHello, a quick question - I set AMD SAM to active (or at least it should be) in my BIOS, and my Windows partition confirmed it was operating as intended. Yet Ubuntu 22.04 LTS gives me some return which I'm not sure of whether SAM (/ReBAR) is active or not for Ubuntu. I used dmesg | grep BAR and got the following return: [    0.693068] pci 0000:06:00.0: BAR 0: assigned to efifb.12:10
NLBenAccording to a search that should've returned the allocated size but it tells me nothing, not even the base size of 256 MB which always should be allocated without SAM/ReBAR. Is the process just re-allocated to another file or am I having a problem here?12:12
armadefuego1I am not familiar with SAM, but its supposed t increase frame rate?12:14
armadefuego1Do you get a faster rate with it on?12:14
BluesKajHi all12:15
NLBenCan't test it atm because Steam is bugging out on me and I don't have anything else heavy enough except for games to test the SAM/ReBAR status.12:15
armadefuego1Hi BluesKaj12:15
NLBenHey BluesKaj12:15
BluesKajhi armadefuego1, NLBen12:16
armadefuego1@NLBen: what about benchmarks?12:16
NLBenHmmmm... I've got no point of reference for benchmarks, that's the issue. If I had run it prior I could do that but without that and the command lines giving me no clear answer I can't be sure12:17
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kotgcHello, has anyone setup remote viewing via tunnel? I'm not connecting, but the tunnel is connected and I've connected Remmina to VNC before without a tunnel.12:49
tomreynkotgc: are you referring to desktop sharing? on gnome? i'm not sure i'm getting the exact scenario, maybe you can describe it more, provide screen shots or configuration files, on dpaste.com and imgur.com (for example)12:55
kotgctomreyn, yes, I guess that's the correct term, desktop sharing.12:55
kotgcUbuntu 22.04.3, I think that's gnome?12:55
kotgcMy mobile phone and/or laptop to connect to this home network Desktop running Ubuntu.12:56
tomreynyes, it's gnome-shell then. there are other Ubuntu flavours such as Kubuntu and Xubuntu and sometimes people using those also seek support here, so I needed to make sure.12:56
kotgcMy ISP uses a CGNAT, so my usual Remmina to VNC connection fails. I setup a tunnel with TailScale which confirms connection.12:57
kotgcApparently, I have to configure the Desktop Sharing via the tunnel connection's IP addresses, but any Desktop Sharing configuration I add fails to connect?12:58
armadefuego1@kotg: Yes. your desktop has to treat the tunnel as its connection point.12:59
kotgcarmadefuego1, ok, I will play with Ubuntu's VNC remote sharing to configure to the tunnel's IP.12:59
tomreynI'm sure this can be setup, but I think we will have a hard time debugging this remotely. have you considered using something like https://rustdesk.com/ ?13:00
armadefuego1as far as the local part is concerned it is connecting to the tunnel. the tunnel should automagically make it come out the other side.13:00
kotgctomreyn, that looks good. I had NoMachine connect, but after a reboot I can't connect again.13:01
kotgcMy preference is Remmina is possible.13:01
tomreynkotgc: you'll have the same issue (not able to connect after reboot of the system you wish to control remotely) with rustdesk, i think.13:02
kotgc...and I've found VNC to be the best server (or tightVNC).13:02
tomreynrustdesk is more for the human managed (both ends) remote support scenario13:02
kotgctomreyn, yes, trying to figure out this new tunnel connection and its bugs.13:02
kotgcok13:02
armadefuego1i use a tunnel to connect ubuntu->tunnel->ubuntu. But the _tunnel_ is not setup in remmina.13:02
tomreynkeep going with the wireguard vpn then13:03
kotgcarmadefuego1, yes, I understand Remmina is a client/viewer.13:04
tomreyn(+ vnc or rdp)13:04
kotgcI tried OpenVPN, WireGuard, but ended up with TailScale working and the easiest setup.13:04
kotgcJust this final desktop sharing step is failing to connect.13:04
kotgcI'll look at the VNC and RustDesk settings a bit more.13:05
armadefuego1i don't use the remmina ssh tunnel option, but there is one there.13:07
tomreynto test out connectivity, try connecting with just netcat (nc), see if you can establish a tcp connection (or, if you choose a udp protocol, if oyou can send/receive data)13:07
kotgcarmadefuego1, that sounds good, I'll look at Remmina.13:08
kotgctomreyn, not too sure on this, I'll have to research how.13:08
armadefuego1maybe "nc {host} 3389" for RDP13:13
tomreynyes.13:14
tomreynsudo apt update && sudo apt install netcat-openbsd && nc -vv 1.1.1.1 80    # for an example13:14
armadefuego1and 5800, or 5900 for VNC...13:15
armadefuego1or 58xx/59xx, or something like that!13:15
kotgcOk, will try tomorrow, thank you.13:16
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rdzhey all. I tainted my system with a bunch of packages from a ppa and I would like to get back the original versions from Ubuntu repos. Is there a way to downgrade packages without totally destroying my system?14:23
rdzThis is the list of packages: https://paste.debian.net/1301755/14:24
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | rdz14:25
ubotturdz: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html14:25
leftyfbrdz: you can try ppa purge to see wnat it does. I'm not sure if it reverts, but it does remove the ppa versions14:26
rdzlotuspsychje: leftyfb: thanks for your suggestions14:35
rdzI'll check ppapurge14:36
lotuspsychjerdz: once ppa's are purged, check on apt again to see what it asks14:36
rdzit all went smoothly.. ppa-purge seems to have downgraded everything smoothly14:48
lotuspsychje!uptodate | rdz to doublecheck14:48
ubotturdz to doublecheck: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.14:48
ufi have an ubuntu server accepting internet connections and passing some of them through wireguard to a backend server. i want the gateway server to reject connections coming from anywhere except certain countries. what's the best approach for this?14:49
ufis this dude on point? https://github.com/PanderMusubi/geoipblock14:50
pragmaticenigmauf: I personally don't recommend geo ip blocking. It's a cat and mouse game that is ineffective at what you are trying to do.14:52
pragmaticenigmaThe data is often out of date at time of publication and you can inadvertanly block connections to things that you may not realize you need connections to. Such as CDNs/mirrors that are leveraged for Ubuntu updates14:53
ufpragmaticenigma it's a mail server and i don't expect anything from 90% of the world.. considering most spam comes from certain regions, i think this is a good way of dealing with the majority of that14:53
pragmaticenigmathat's a terrible idea, considering how email works14:54
ufcan you please elaborate why this is terrible?14:55
ufthis worked wonderful for the last few years14:55
leftyfbuf: coming from someone who has been running a mail server for over 20 years plug worked for the largest shared hosting company in the world for 9 years, geoip on a mail server is a cat and mouse game and not worth the effort14:56
leftyfbuf: start with TLD's if you must14:56
leftyfbuse fail2ban and look for failed auth14:56
leftyfbdon't allow relay14:56
hggdh+1 on fail2ban :-)14:57
ufmy logic is that considering there is only a handful of users, all based in the same country and sometimes traveling between the US and EU, why would you even consider not blocking places like china for example, from using IMAP/POP3?14:57
pragmaticenigmaGeoIP is highly inaccurate, most of the services are out of date before the list is published. IP addresses are constantly transferred between providers. After that, a spammer trying to reach your domain is just going to shop around for VPNs or Proxies that you are not blocking to get stuff into your service. There are entire groups out there that specialized in that.14:58
leftyfbyou're 100% sure your users will ever order anything from temu or alibaba or the like?14:58
leftyfband pragmaticenigma is right, geoip is maybe 60% accurate in my experience14:59
pragmaticenigmaif you want to go the IP blocking route, stick to blocking IP addresses that are classified as residential, and subscribe to lists that publish reputation scores for known email servers15:00
ufleftyfb i'll bite on that argument for incoming mail. do you have a sensible reason to not block most places from connecting to imaps/pop3s?15:01
leftyfbtravel, VPN's15:01
leftyfbjust use fail2ban and block failed auth'd ip's15:01
leftyfbor block auth alltogether unless you're connected to your local VPN15:02
leftyfbuf: either way, we're verymuch discussing email server best practices and not really anything ubuntu-specific. Feel free to discuss further in #ubuntu-discuss or #security or maybe even #ubuntu-server15:04
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johnfgtomreyn: Yes, I'm using 22.04 with all updates.  Any further suggestions?15:49
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johnfgIf you look at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-fingerprint.html.en, you'll see it referring to something that's not present for me in 22.04.15:53
pragmaticenigmajohnfg: that documentation is referring to Ubuntu 23.10, you are using 22.0415:54
johnfgI saw that, so wonder what's actually available for 22.04?15:56
pragmaticenigmajohnfg: not sure what I could recommend to you. all roads point to that reader not being supported right now, except if you do some tweaking of the system. And if you've implemented those tweaks and it still doesn't work, then I would consider the documentation incomplete as the other person may not have known something else they did had an impact on getting the device to work.15:59
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pragmaticenigmajohnfg: from what I've followed, there is sample size of one getting the reader to work. To me that's not reliable in the face of several years of documentation saying the device doesn't work.16:00
pragmaticenigmajohnfg: an option would be to upgrade to 23.10, but understand that you will be off the LTS version. You can also wait until April 2024 when the next LTS release of Ubuntu will be available, which may have the fixes that appear to work for 23.10 implemented.16:02
tomreynjohnfg: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/session-fingerprint.html.en is the documentation for 22.04 LTS (this page appears to be identical, though)16:08
tomreynjohnfg: i have no further suggestions other than not using this piece of hardware.16:08
tomreynwith the security track record of fingerprint readers, and the general implications of using (unchangeable, not as private as one might think) biometrics for authentication, i would generally recommend against using fingerprint readers for authentication to anything you store sensitive data on.16:13
tomreynor rather, at all. but this may be a subjective point of view. still, there are alternatives you may want to consider.16:14
johnfgWhy doesn't my 22.04 have this in Users: Press on Disabled, next to Fingerprint Login to add a fingerprint for the selected account. If you are adding the fingerprint for a different user, you will first need to Unlock the panel.16:16
johnfgtomreyn: I may take your advice, and ultimately not use it, but would like to figure out what I'm missing.16:17
tomreynyou are missing a supported fingerprint reader16:17
johnfgtomreyn: I thought we figured out yesterday that it is?  If that's the case, then I'll stop here.  Thanks tomreyn and pragmaticenigma  for all of your help and suggestions.16:18
tomreyni think we figured ot yesterday that it is not?16:19
pragmaticenigmajohnfg: what we found yesterday was one person that claimed to get it working, but didn't provide adequate documenation about their system configuration or steps to getting it working. And all links to anything that might have provided some information about what they did were broken links.16:20
pragmaticenigmajohnfg: as tomreyn mentioned earlier, if security of your computer is a concern there are much better supported, robust, and trusted options out there. A finger print reader is no more secure than setting a 4 character password, or PIN number to unlock the account.16:22
pragmaticenigmajohnfg: I would also suggest implenting any security further up the chain, such as Full Disk Encryption.16:22
tomreynjohnfg: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2023/12/20/%23ubuntu.html#t17:18 is yesterday's log, in case you would like to review it. summing it up, after learning you're using 22.04, which most likely has a libfprint version newer than the one which a developer stated (3 years ago) supports your device. and all newer information we could find did not seem to statet that there is support for your device nowadays. so i wrote "my guess is that the developer16:26
tomreynstatement (indicating support) is either outdated (no longer supported) or incorrect". in other words: i expect your device not to be supported. maybe at some point it partially was (but possibly with adverse effects to other devices, requiring this code to be removed later).16:26
johnfgtomreyn: Understood, and thanks for resharing/reposting that.16:52
tomreynyou're welcome16:54
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* enyc meows19:41
derek-shnoshIs there a reason that Ubuntu 23(.10) would ignore the domain name provided by the DHCP server it obtained an address from? The configured domain is domain.local (domain redacted, and .local is unfortunate, but can't change right now).19:51
derek-shnosh`resolvectl domain` lists my wired/wifi network adapters, but doesn't show any search domains listed for either of them.19:53
leftyfbderek-shnosh: .local is not a domain nor is it proper DNS. It's mDNS/avahi19:54
derek-shnoshWould that explain it being ignored by the OS?19:55
pragmaticenigmaIt is likely a feature of the DHCP server to tell the machine what domain it is joined to19:55
derek-shnoshI'm going to replicate entries from domain.local to a domain.lan folder and change the server to use that instead.19:56
leftyfbderek-shnosh: I'm not sure to be honest, but I would start with getting to a known good state where you have proper DNS before trying to troubleshoot DNS issues19:56
derek-shnoshThat search domain isn't working anyways, so I'm going to send domain.lan from the DHCP server and reobtain to see if that one is even accepted by the OS.19:57
pragmaticenigmaderek-shnosh: would recommend a domain of home.arpa if you're shopping around. That prevents the domain search from going any farther than it needs to, and it is the currently recommendation  to use19:58
leftyfb.lan should work fine as well19:58
leftyfbit's what I have on a fairly large network (about 100 clients)19:59
pragmaticenigma.lan could be used by an organization. IETF recommend using home.arpa has it is considered special use: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc837519:59
pragmaticenigmasince what ever organization decided to allow any company/entity to generate new TLDs as they desire19:59
derek-shnoshWhile not a best practice, my internal clients won't ever have that issue as they will never connect to org/corp networks. I run VMs for my client VPN connections.20:00
pragmaticenigmaderek-shnosh: You're not understanding... Google could add the .lan as a TLD to the open Internet if they so choose to20:00
pragmaticenigmathen if you machine searches on example.lan and it doesn't exist, that query goes upstream20:02
derek-shnoshI understand.20:02
derek-shnoshI'll create a subdomain for a domain I already own.20:02
derek-shnoshlan.domain.io for example.20:02
pragmaticenigmathat is ideal ;)20:02
pragmaticenigmaderek-shnosh: to note, my Ubuntu 20.04 does not register an FDDN on my local network. I've never had an issue with it, I'm thinking because you used .local that the application is using a library that recognizes the TLD as a mDNS and doesn't query the DNS server20:04
derek-shnoshYou'd think it'd show up as the search domain when I run `resolvectl domain` though... the list is completely empty.20:05
pragmaticenigmaassuming resolvectl isn't default to mDNS as well20:05
leftyfbderek-shnosh: resolvectl |grep Domain20:06
derek-shnoshBlank20:06
derek-shnoshUpdated DHCP server to hand out lan.domain.io and still not receiving the search domain. Guess I'm going to wireshark the interface and see if its even coming.20:10
leftyfbderek-shnosh: what about other clients?20:10
leftyfbderek-shnosh: did you check your network settings? Is this a server or desktop?20:11
derek-shnoshUbuntu 23.10 desktop.20:11
leftyfbchecked the network profile for your interface?20:11
leftyfbthere is an option to specify your own DNS/domain20:11
leftyfbif that's checked, it'll ignore DHCP20:11
leftyfb(it'll ignore DNS/domain from DHCP)20:12
derek-shnoshI'm in Settings > Network > click gear on interface ... searching all tabs, IPv6 disabled, IPv4 is all automatic, including DNS. https://i.imgur.com/ieC32Ob.png20:13
leftyfbderek-shnosh: run nm-connection-editor20:13
leftyfbcheck there, it's more granular20:13
derek-shnoshhttps://i.imgur.com/eMBRFag.png20:14
leftyfbderek-shnosh: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf20:14
derek-shnosh... /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf20:15
derek-shnoshOnly thing uncommented in there is `nameserver 127.0.0.53 ; options edns0 trust-ad ; search .`20:16
derek-shnosh; denoting separate lines of course.20:16
slotXhi guys :)20:21
derek-shnoshUnrelated, {whine} the Wireshark rep is always so dated. :\20:22
derek-shnoshWell "dated" may not be the correct term... Its caught up to 4.0.8 which was August 2023.20:23
slotXI'm running a ubuntu server 202.04 on a vps and I'm trying to install kiwiirc server but I'm having trouble to instal yarn  anyone could please help ?20:23
slotXups 22.0420:24
leftyfbslotX: kiwiirc is not an officially supported application in ubuntu. You'll need to seek support from kiwiirc20:25
slotXthanks leftyfb  :)20:26
leftyfbslotX: https://github.com/kiwiirc/kiwiirc/issues20:26
slotXthanks20:27
morgan-u2Problem: compy selection in the printscreen routine does not show the gadget to select. You knw thedots with the lines connecting into a recatangle. No dots. -- what did I do? chose (keystroke) it, escape to close it. chose again,, clickd window, clicked selection -INVISIBLE) How did i try to fix it? Chose, clicked window, took shot. Then chose it again, picked selection.  (Did not hwlp)  22.0320:32
morgan-u2Please erase my problem. NeverMind.20:40
derek-shnoshApparently the search domain is not being sent in the ACK, time to dig into the DHCP server.20:55
pragmaticenigmaderek-shnosh: Before you get too deep in the rabit hole... I think your best action is to update your local domain as you mentioned earlier. Then see if the problem continues. If the DHCP server is also your DNS server (or linked) it may not send the domain out, as it always searches the DHCP leases to find a match.21:01
pragmaticenigma(I may not be using the right terms here, but hopefully the idea makes sense)21:02
derek-shnoshpragmaticenigma: thank you, I will save that project for a rainy day/weekend/PTO... for now, resolving FQDN is working as needed.21:07
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loswedsededis there any way to add country flags to the desktop's panel?23:01
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xanguaThere's probably a gnome extension, if that's what you mean loswedseded23:29
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