| nameful | hi all,may i request troubleshooting for wifi pls? lately,connection is sporadic have to do restart to reconnect,tried it on old wifi adapter and seldom used wifi adapter,they are both sporadic | 00:18 |
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| nameful | ubuntu 20.04.6 | 00:20 |
| Komu | nameful: check if it is about unused wifi dev, like power save future: use the device, transmit something, if it does stay up? if u pause transmittion, and nothing got transmitted get it unuseable? | 00:27 |
| Komu | nameful: just a idea i have no real clue | 00:27 |
| nameful | Komu, power management is off on wifi,does that help ? | 00:28 |
| Komu | nameful: how did u check that? | 00:28 |
| nameful | wavemon | 00:28 |
| nameful | Komu, wavemon | 00:29 |
| Komu | nameful: i have like wise issues with an old, half broken notebook | 00:31 |
| Komu | nameful: the connection is rock solid if i turn it on and transmit something, but after transmitting pause,the NIC is unuseable, it even needs hard cold reset of the notebook | 00:32 |
| nameful | Komu, mine is almost acting same, ie: hang and needs to force restart w/o using REISUB restart | 00:33 |
| Komu | nameful: what is REISUB? | 00:34 |
| Komu | OH the sysreq key method.... | 00:34 |
| Komu | nameful: i guess an intel chip wifi? here it the case, i searched a bit, and some suggest to use a different driver in ansere. but i didn't invest much time in this problem | 00:36 |
| === a__ is now known as nameful_ | ||
| nameful_ | pc restart,did i missed anything | 00:37 |
| nameful_ | i guess an intel chip wifi : last message | 00:38 |
| nameful_ | i hope its a bug,im using a new (3rd wifi adapter) one | 00:39 |
| Komu | nameful: i guess an intel chip wifi? here it the case, i searched a bit, and some suggest to use a different driver in ansere. but i didn't invest much time in this problem | 00:40 |
| === sotaoverride is now known as Guest7867 | ||
| nameful | pc hang again | 00:46 |
| nameful | using irc on desktop now just in case | 00:47 |
| nameful | err,windows desktop | 00:47 |
| nameful | hi all,is there a way to delay the quitting of forcefck terminal ? | 01:15 |
| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| de-facto | how do i enable source packages in this new deb822 format of ubuntu 24.04 ? | 02:12 |
| Bashing-om | de-facto: deb822 discussion: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec-apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 ; adding src at the tail end. | 02:51 |
| de-facto | yeah i just guessed it from Types being plural e.g. Types: deb deb-src | 02:53 |
| de-facto | thanks for linking me | 02:53 |
| Bashing-om | de-facto: :D Small thing - can mean a lot. | 02:54 |
| === five6184803391 is now known as five618480339 | ||
| ubuntu-cinnamon | hey im using the live environment in ubuntu cinnamon 24.04 lts | 03:53 |
| === root is now known as Guest8582 | ||
| === Guest8582 is now known as root | ||
| === mrbutthead2 is now known as mrbutthead | ||
| Mibix_ | I am on ubuntu 22.04 on my server and I have had Nvidia 710 in there for a while so I could use it as a desktop if needed. I just added a 1050 TI so I could potentially pass it through to a windows VM for my security camera software. Ever since I installed the 1050 TI I can't seem to get either GPU to output to the monitor but both GPUs are being detected | 06:15 |
| Mibix_ | monitor is hooked up to the 710 and is using a nvidia 390 driver (I'm trying to switch back to 470 now), the 1050 TI is using Nouveau | 06:16 |
| === Mibix_ is now known as Mibix | ||
| === Mibix is now known as Mibix_ | ||
| Mibix_ | think i got it :D | 06:25 |
| === Denial is now known as Denial8522 | ||
| === Denial8522 is now known as Denial | ||
| fweht | is this a problem with my graphics drivers? or is it firefox (i assume not)? (those are just single frame glitches in animations, they are hard to capture on photo but quite visible) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/poQzFn6C/image.png | 07:11 |
| CosmicDJ | fweht: 13th-gen Intel CPU? | 07:21 |
| fweht | Architecture: x86_64 | 07:22 |
| fweht | CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit | 07:22 |
| fweht | Address sizes: 39 bits physical, 48 bits virtual | 07:22 |
| fweht | Byte Order: Little Endian | 07:22 |
| fweht | CPU(s): 8 | 07:22 |
| fweht | On-line CPU(s) list: 0-7 | 07:22 |
| fweht | Vendor ID: GenuineIntel | 07:22 |
| mybalzitch | muted before we saw the important bit | 07:22 |
| fweht | am i muted now? | 07:25 |
| mybalzitch | no | 07:26 |
| mybalzitch | please don't paste >3 lines into chat. please use a pastebin service if you need to paste >3 lines | 07:27 |
| fweht | Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8665U CPU @ 1.90GHz seems to be my cpu | 07:39 |
| fweht | but on windows i never had those problems | 07:39 |
| LuckyMan | fweht, what problems? | 07:40 |
| fweht | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/eUHLpo0A/IMG_8990.JPG | 07:40 |
| LuckyMan | fweht, did you went to aditional controlers? | 07:41 |
| LuckyMan | are you using firefox? | 07:42 |
| fweht | what are controllers? | 07:42 |
| fweht | yes firefox | 07:42 |
| fweht | but its also when i have e.g. terminal open and some animation in the background | 07:43 |
| LuckyMan | are you using gnome? | 07:43 |
| fweht | no xfce | 07:43 |
| LuckyMan | fweht, on regular Ubuntu you have an App that says aditional controllers, IDK what's called in Xubuntu | 07:46 |
| fweht | ah thanks i will check! | 07:46 |
| j_w_t_2 | @fweht: What version of Ubuntu/kernel/Mesa are you using? | 07:46 |
| fweht | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Cvh99oEs/image.png | 07:47 |
| fweht | ubuntu 24.04 | 07:48 |
| fweht | kernel 6.8.0-39-generic | 07:48 |
| LuckyMan | try changing to 470 and see if that helps | 07:49 |
| fweht | thanks will do! | 07:49 |
| fweht | that seems to be it!! thanks so much! | 07:52 |
| === fling_ is now known as fling | ||
| j_w_t_2 | Nice one! | 08:58 |
| Apachez- | using 24.04 LTS and get my logs filled with: "indicator-cpufr[3286]: gtk_widget_get_scale_factor: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed" - any ideas on how to fix that? | 09:03 |
| === root is now known as Guest5111 | ||
| Guest99 | Hi - I'm having issues with start up as my USB mouse and keyboard are not functioning in the GRUB screen. I've tried a wired mouse but that isn't helping. Can anyone help me out with this please? | 09:27 |
| sixwheeledbeast | grub doesn't have mouse support afaik. you should be able to move the cursor with with keyboard. | 09:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | "cursor" as in highlighted option. it maybe down to the mode your keyboard is in or some bios setting. | 09:39 |
| Guest99 | I That's the problem - it's not responding to the keyboard either | 09:39 |
| Guest99 | I think this might be something to do with a recent upgrade | 09:40 |
| === fauxpride- is now known as fauxpride | ||
| sixwheeledbeast | I did have an issue with glitchy bios update on my old motherboard were 30% of the time there was no keyboard control in grub. Not saying that is the issue but possible. | 10:00 |
| mgedmin | Guest7867: there used to be a BIOS setting "usb keyboard support" that was required to use usb keyboards to control boot menus and suchlike, if you didn't have a ps/2 keyboard | 10:23 |
| mgedmin | I would be surprised if modern UEFI systems still have something like this | 10:23 |
| === itu is now known as Guest1627 | ||
| JanC | mgedmin: that setting actually uses an USB keyboard to emulate a PS/2 keyboard; it might still exist in UEFI firmware setups (but likely only used in BIOS emulation mode) because it might be needed to boot some old bootloaders & operating systems (e.g. DOS) | 11:05 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:06 |
| === Guest1627 is now known as itu | ||
| CosmicDJ | ls | 12:34 |
| CosmicDJ | oops, ww | 12:34 |
| noob39 | does anyone use the "to-do" app in Ubuntu? | 12:41 |
| Komu | noob39: no i use emacs-org-mode | 12:44 |
| noob27 | Does anybody here use To Do list native Ubuntu application? | 12:45 |
| negr_ | hiiiii ^__^ | 13:36 |
| negr_ | i like kanye west and rianna | 13:37 |
| negr_ | shine bright like a diamond | 13:37 |
| negr_ | shine on you crazy diamond | 13:37 |
| tacomaster | I am trying to install 32bit nvidia libs so I typed in "sudo apt install libnvidia-gl-535:i386" and it told me that it was obsoleted and to use libnvidia-common-535 instead. I then tried to do "sudo apt install libnvidia-common-535:i386" and I get unable to locate package libnvidia-common-535:i386. I am not sure what I am doing wrong here. | 14:30 |
| tacomaster | Ok I figured it out. I needed the dpkg --add-architecture i386 | 14:39 |
| === remy_ is now known as Remy | ||
| Sai | i followed all the steps to setup nextcloud file server and i do not have domain name and need help with setting up the dns and attach to the nextcloud deployment | 14:59 |
| leftyfb | Sai: I thought you said you only want this local | 14:59 |
| leftyfb | Sai: just use the hostname/ip address | 14:59 |
| Sai | i am using https | 14:59 |
| leftyfb | that doesn't address anything I've said | 15:00 |
| Sai | okay so if i wanted to setup using https do i need registered domain name | 15:01 |
| leftyfb | no | 15:01 |
| Sai | please can you help me | 15:01 |
| leftyfb | not if you use a self-signed cert | 15:01 |
| leftyfb | Sai: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/howto-running-nextcloud-over-self-signed-https-ssl-tls-in-docker/101973 | 15:02 |
| leftyfb | you know this information can be found on google right? | 15:02 |
| leftyfb | there's a difference between asking for help with a problem or asking how to setup services that have been documented already | 15:02 |
| ravage | Also there is a snap for nextcloud that should work pretty well and does not require a lot of setup | 15:03 |
| ravage | if you only plan to use this locally or on your local network anyway | 15:04 |
| Sai | i used all the steps in https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-nextcloud-on-ubuntu-22-04 | 15:04 |
| leftyfb | it makes things slightly less documented for setting up a self signed cert | 15:04 |
| ravage | if you plan to use nextcloud on an internet facing server please get a domain name and secure it properly | 15:05 |
| ravage | https://freedns.afraid.org/ gets you one for free. but domains really are not expensive | 15:07 |
| drigy | can mac m1 run ubuntu server? | 15:12 |
| ravage | https://github.com/UbuntuAsahi/ubuntu-asahi | 15:14 |
| ravage | but not supported here at all | 15:15 |
| ravage | and it looks like it always installs a full desktop | 15:15 |
| drigy | Thanks. One can dream | 15:16 |
| Noir | Hello, can anyone please help me how to fix this. I'm trying to accessing certain website to watch some anime, the server is up and i'm able to access it using vpn but when i'm using normal connection of my wifi it says "This site can't be reached" anyone please? | 15:45 |
| Noir | When i'm using my mobile data connection, I can still access the website, but using my wifi connection it only shows can't be reached. | 15:45 |
| leftyfb | Noir: how are you trying to access it? | 15:46 |
| leftyfb | by hostname, domain, ip? | 15:46 |
| Noir | via browser | 15:46 |
| leftyfb | by hostname, domain, ip? | 15:46 |
| Noir | I'm using Brave Browser | 15:46 |
| Noir | the website is aniwave.to | 15:46 |
| leftyfb | that's your domain? | 15:46 |
| Noir | that's the website i'm trying to go | 15:47 |
| leftyfb | Noir: not an ubuntu issue. Either your ISP or your network admin is blocking it | 15:47 |
| Noir | Is it possible to unblock it using certain ways? | 15:48 |
| leftyfb | Noir: try contacting your ISP or network admin | 15:48 |
| Noir | Okay thanks | 15:49 |
| === daniel_ is now known as PalesinianDaniel | ||
| PalesinianDaniel | Hii | 16:10 |
| PalesinianDaniel | Is it possible to chat with people individuali? | 16:10 |
| leftyfb | PalesinianDaniel: this is a support channel. If you'd like help with IRC, try asking in #libera | 16:12 |
| Guest91 | Does anyone know how to resolve "module not found" issues in Clawpack for an Ubuntu VM? | 16:15 |
| ioria | Guest91, what's the exact command issued ? | 16:22 |
| Guest91 | ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'clawpack.riemann.euler_with_efix_1D_constants' | 16:24 |
| ioria | Guest91, ok, that's the error but what is the command you ran ? | 16:25 |
| Guest91 | claw = examples.shock_bubble_interaction.setup() | 16:25 |
| Guest91 | claw.run() | 16:25 |
| Guest91 | claw.plot() | 16:25 |
| ioria | Guest91, did you install clawpack with pip ? | 16:26 |
| Guest91 | yes | 16:27 |
| Guest91 | however it did run into issues when I first tried to install it so this might be a result. I also cloned the original repo of Clawpack from Github | 16:28 |
| ioria | Guest91, run an interactive python session and import clawpack | 16:28 |
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| oerheks | lots of issues with clawpack https://github.com/clawpack/clawpack/issues/256 | 17:00 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 256 in clawpack/clawpack "Issue with Clawpack installation using pip" [Open] | 17:00 | |
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| === PasiZ5 is now known as PasiZ | ||
| imachine | hello how can I use nvidia-340 on Ubuntu 22.04 ? | 18:19 |
| imachine | without downgrade to Ubuntu 20.04 | 18:19 |
| imachine | maybe use different kernel or a ppa? | 18:19 |
| imachine | I tried another ppa but it was issues w/ installing the drivers | 18:20 |
| enigma9o7 | It's in repo, just install it. | 18:20 |
| ravage | The kernel version is just too now to work with the old drivers | 18:20 |
| ravage | So your only real alternative is the open source driver | 18:20 |
| enigma9o7 | There is kelebek's ppa too... | 18:20 |
| imachine | well not sure; archlinux has patches up to version 6 of kernel | 18:20 |
| imachine | kelebek's | 18:20 |
| ravage | Now sure how they would patch a closed source driver | 18:21 |
| ravage | But use their patch them | 18:21 |
| ravage | then | 18:21 |
| imachine | oh super | 18:21 |
| imachine | kelebek | 18:21 |
| imachine | enigma9o7, did you use this? | 18:21 |
| imachine | adding kelebeks ppa now | 18:22 |
| oerheks | why not use the 390? | 18:22 |
| enigma9o7 | I have used it, yes, I have GT330M. | 18:22 |
| enigma9o7 | Also have 8600GTS in a desktop. Both use nvidia-340. | 18:22 |
| enigma9o7 | oerheks: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/legacy-gpu/ | 18:22 |
| enigma9o7 | some gpu only support up to 340... some only up to 390... some only up to 470.... | 18:22 |
| enigma9o7 | some only up to 304 for that matter, I have a 5200 like that, but use nouveau with it. | 18:22 |
| enigma9o7 | as nvidia-304 doesn't support current version of X | 18:23 |
| oerheks | there is a reason why 340 is dropped for 22.04 even with https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 18:23 |
| imachine | ok super -340 is what I'm after | 18:23 |
| oerheks | be happy with nouveau? | 18:23 |
| imachine | no, it has vram issues | 18:23 |
| Guest2450 | guys, how can I install ubuntu' | 18:23 |
| imachine | hangs on 2d operations | 18:23 |
| imachine | firefox fails | 18:23 |
| imachine | +low performance in 3d, but that's besides the point | 18:23 |
| Guest2450 | I got a live cd, I copied it to usb flash, I booted off it | 18:23 |
| imachine | I already talked in #neuveau | 18:23 |
| ioria | imachine, you can use the default 5.15 kernel with 22.04 and 340 should work with that version | 18:24 |
| Guest2450 | but I can't install it!! | 18:24 |
| imachine | ioria, downloading kelebek's -340 | 18:24 |
| Guest2450 | ubuntu_bootstrap: ../../src/xcb_io.c:278: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed. | 18:24 |
| Guest2450 | Aborted (core dumped) | 18:24 |
| ioria | imachine, ok, but be warned about ppas | 18:24 |
| imachine | ioria, it should it's just the official repos nvidia-340 is just transitional package; it points to nouveau | 18:24 |
| imachine | and nouveau is not working :) | 18:25 |
| Guest2450 | is there any other installer, maybe like in 23.10 | 18:25 |
| Guest2450 | this one is buggy as hell | 18:25 |
| imachine | ioria, it's either this or downgrade to 20.04 :) or obtain a different hardware | 18:25 |
| oerheks | use 22.04 LTS Guest2450 | 18:25 |
| oerheks | supported until 2027 | 18:25 |
| imachine | enigma9o7, looks like your solution is working, great :) | 18:25 |
| Guest2450 | oerheks, that's what I use, it is very very very -- absolutely -- buggy and impossible to install | 18:26 |
| Guest2450 | I tried like a 100 times | 18:26 |
| imachine | enigma9o7, thank you so much, all good to you! :) | 18:26 |
| ravage | The 22.04 installer is really stable | 18:26 |
| imachine | rebooting it now to see if it works correctly :) | 18:26 |
| imachine | have a good day everyone! :) | 18:26 |
| Guest2450 | Aborted (core dumped) is what your stable is | 18:27 |
| enigma9o7 | I wish I could use nouveau instead, as it has better EGL support. However when I use it, machine locks up regularly. | 18:27 |
| ravage | But then you can still get 24.04 | 18:27 |
| enigma9o7 | Could be an hour, could be a day, but it always happens, and never with nvidia-340. | 18:27 |
| Guest2450 | maybe 'sudo apt upgrade ubuntu-desktop-install' or like can help? or building the fresh fix by myself? | 18:27 |
| Guest2450 | ah you said 22 not 24 | 18:28 |
| ravage | You can also try the server installer | 18:28 |
| Guest2450 | the problem is I don't have any *other* usb flash | 18:28 |
| ravage | That seems to be a bit more stable | 18:28 |
| ravage | And then install ubuntu-desktop | 18:29 |
| Guest2450 | what is "the server installer"? | 18:29 |
| Guest2450 | where and how 'to get "thwe server installer"? | 18:29 |
| ravage | https://ubuntu.com/download/server | 18:30 |
| oerheks | maybe time to give the specs of the hardware, is there windows installed on it? | 18:30 |
| enigma9o7 | just another iso | 18:30 |
| oerheks | UEFI or legacy bios? | 18:30 |
| Guest2450 | ah no, not another iso | 18:30 |
| Guest2450 | I can't erase this flash, and I don't have another frlash' | 18:31 |
| Guest2450 | only with this flash okay? | 18:31 |
| Guest2450 | but I can do whatever I want with ssd 128 GiB inside | 18:31 |
| ravage | You could start to answer some of the questions | 18:31 |
| Guest2450 | I already vanished it removing all partitions | 18:31 |
| Guest2450 | I don't want any windows' | 18:32 |
| ravage | And the installer should update itself anyway on startup | 18:32 |
| Guest2450 | ravage, it crashes on this step | 18:32 |
| ravage | If it does not try "sudo snap refresh" | 18:33 |
| ravage | In a terminal | 18:33 |
| enigma9o7 | You could use ventoy, if you want to be able to put multiple ISO's on one flash drive. | 18:33 |
| ravage | With the installer closed | 18:33 |
| Guest2450 | wow, it upgrades snapd | 18:33 |
| Guest2450 | whatever it is | 18:34 |
| ravage | only that? | 18:34 |
| ravage | what does "snap list" output? | 18:34 |
| Guest2450 | not instant | 18:34 |
| Guest2450 | 89.6 s left | 18:34 |
| ravage | then wait 🙂 | 18:34 |
| Guest2450 | now it's snap-store | 18:35 |
| Guest2450 | not too much to wait ... $ snap list | wc -l ---> 12 | 18:36 |
| ravage | does the list include ubuntu-desktop-provision ? | 18:37 |
| ravage | or ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap | 18:38 |
| ravage | bye | 18:38 |
| Guest2450 | thunderbird will upgrade 39 minutes O_o I would NEVER need such an app | 18:40 |
| Guest2450 | removing it from a live cd would be a great idea | 18:40 |
| ravage | you can cancel the update and only update the installer | 18:40 |
| oerheks | updating a live iso ? | 18:40 |
| oerheks | ... | 18:40 |
| Guest2450 | yep | 18:40 |
| ravage | sudo snap refresh ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap | 18:40 |
| Guest2450 | did it, and then? ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap in console shows nothing in return | 18:45 |
| Guest2450 | until ^C | 18:45 |
| ravage | the refresh command must give some outpur | 18:46 |
| Guest2450 | snap "ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap" has no updates available | 18:46 |
| Guest2450 | then I enter just that name without any other to launch | 18:46 |
| ravage | if it did any updates you can just run it with the icon on the desktop | 18:47 |
| Guest2450 | ravage, if I do it that way, then it disappears (crashes) without any message | 18:48 |
| Guest2450 | just ceases to be present | 18:49 |
| Guest2450 | eliminates itself silently | 18:49 |
| ravage | sudo snap refresh --channel=candidate ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap | 18:49 |
| Guest2450 | ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap (candidate) 0+git.d01ed390f from Canonical✓ refreshed | 18:51 |
| ravage | then try to run it agaon | 18:51 |
| ravage | *again | 18:51 |
| Guest2450 | and yep, the following is a must : sed -i 's/Terminal=false/Terminal=true/' '/home/ubuntu/Desktop/ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap_ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap.desktop' | 18:53 |
| Guest2450 | :) | 18:53 |
| ravage | it is not a terminal application really | 18:54 |
| Guest2450 | but how to see where it crashes and so? | 18:54 |
| === biapy62 is now known as biapy6 | ||
| Guest2450 | how do you *debug* it? | 18:54 |
| ravage | does it crash now? | 18:54 |
| Guest2450 | ravage, now it just hangs | 18:54 |
| Guest2450 | showing nothing | 18:55 |
| ravage | how did you run it | 18:55 |
| Guest2450 | no any window | 18:55 |
| Guest2450 | ravage, double-cflicking on the desktop icon | 18:55 |
| ravage | how do you know it is running then? | 18:55 |
| Guest2450 | hah, the second terminal disappeared | 18:55 |
| Guest2450 | so it is not running anymore | 18:55 |
| ravage | i would reboot. quit the installer. update it. run it | 18:56 |
| ravage | you should not need to change any desktop files or run anything from the terminal | 18:57 |
| Guest2450 | is there any other way to install ubuntu from this iso? | 18:58 |
| ravage | no | 18:58 |
| Guest2450 | without this app | 18:58 |
| Guest2450 | it can't be | 18:58 |
| ravage | let us know if you find one then | 18:58 |
| Guest2450 | something like dd /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdb1 mm? | 18:59 |
| Guest2450 | need to google exact options | 18:59 |
| ravage | good luck | 18:59 |
| === biapy62 is now known as biapy6 | ||
| Guest2450 | I always thought about ubuntu as something very easy to use, using it since 2018 or like | 19:01 |
| Guest2450 | but this installer crashing everywhere everytime | 19:01 |
| Guest2450 | ubuntu devs shall definitely leave another option | 19:01 |
| === nshire2 is now known as nshire | ||
| Guest2450 | oops, I switchd to f3 in a hope to get non-X tty, but there are just myriads of infinite "failed to send h2c command" messages from probably kmesg | 19:04 |
| Guest2450 | rebooting now | 19:05 |
| Guest9471 | I rebooted, apt installed hexchat, removed thunderbird and is quite ready | 19:15 |
| Guest9471 | what was the command to update ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap ? | 19:15 |
| ravage | sudo snap refresh --channel=candidate ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap | 19:16 |
| Guest9471 | thanks | 19:16 |
| Guest9471 | as I remember, when something crashes, the system presents a dialog to send the report or not... why it's not the case on this live iso | 19:18 |
| Guest9471 | where it just crashed and nothing more | 19:19 |
| Guest9471 | ...and other ideas while waiting to upgrade | 19:20 |
| Guest9471 | wow now it reached at least the proprietary software selection slide ;) | 19:23 |
| === meandrai_ is now known as meandrain | ||
| Guest9471 | nice nice nice https://ibb.co/sbNPykg I never was so far | 19:30 |
| elias1 | hello everyone | 19:43 |
| meandrain | why some use a separate /boot partition ? | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | meandrain: it simplifies LVM encryption | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | other than that, a lack of understanding of how things work | 19:44 |
| meandrain | and If I don't use LVM, just softraid md and ext4, do I need /boot ? | 19:44 |
| leftyfb | do you need /boot, yes, do you need a separate /boot partition, no | 19:44 |
| meandrain | thank you! | 19:44 |
| elias1 | i haven't noticed it is august now | 19:46 |
| Guest3107 | the installation ended as freezing completely, nothing worked but alt+sysrq+B | 19:46 |
| elias1 | months pass rly fast | 19:47 |
| Guest3107 | the ssd is untouched | 19:47 |
| Guest3107 | the last thing it showed was "Enchance your creativity" slide | 19:47 |
| Guest3107 | and then it froze | 19:48 |
| Guest3107 | https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23ubuntu.html looks quite outdated | 19:50 |
| Guest3107 | I expected to reget the command to upgrade that installer | 19:50 |
| Guest3107 | maybe trying it the even time will install, or maybe the moon will shift to the blessing position | 19:51 |
| Guest3107 | any ideas what to do? | 19:53 |
| Guest3107 | to work booting an ephemer usb live system where changes are forgotten on every reboot? | 19:55 |
| Guest3107 | forever | 19:55 |
| Guest3107 | ravage, still alive? | 19:58 |
| Guest3107 | just two minutes and I hope the log will appear | 19:58 |
| ravage | sudo snap refresh --channel=candidate ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap | 19:59 |
| Guest3107 | ravage, oh yep thanks again | 19:59 |
| ravage | if the system just randomly locks up i would do a hardware check | 19:59 |
| ravage | also see if there are any bios updates | 19:59 |
| leftyfb | you know, I just did an ubuntu 22.04 desktop install on a laptop about an hour ago after downloading the iso earlier today. Zero issues. I honestly don't think the issue is with the version of packages on the iso | 19:59 |
| leftyfb | I would suggest maybe looking at dmesg during/after the crash to see if might be due to some hardware issue or bug | 20:00 |
| ravage | this is 24.04 | 20:00 |
| leftyfb | didn't we suggest 22.04 earlier? | 20:00 |
| ravage | it is still 24.04 | 20:00 |
| meandrain | is there a benefit in using soft raid md swap ? | 20:02 |
| oerheks | leftyfb, i did, and has not seen the answer what machine it is | 20:04 |
| oerheks | only ssd 128 GiB , and should be clean | 20:05 |
| ananke | Manouchehri: as opposed to what? | 20:06 |
| ananke | oops, meandrain : as opposed to what? | 20:06 |
| meandrain | as opposed to just use every partition on both drives as a separate swap disk | 20:07 |
| ananke | meandrain: you'd get a more reliable swap, at the cost of it being much slower | 20:08 |
| meandrain | I see | 20:08 |
| meandrain | so it is better not to use soft raid swap | 20:08 |
| ananke | 'better' is subjective, based on your requirements/priorities | 20:09 |
| ananke | though generally you probably do NOT want swap on software raid | 20:09 |
| Guest3107 | crashed again at the keyboard selection slide | 20:09 |
| Guest3107 | wadda sheet is goin on | 20:10 |
| Guest3107 | where can I see the source code of ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap | 20:11 |
| oerheks | sure you can find it on github, if you know how to read a src | 20:12 |
| oerheks | use the 22.04 iso, best stable option for now | 20:13 |
| Guest3107 | oerheks, if I had another flash drive I'd get 23.10 | 20:17 |
| ravage | 23.10 is EOL | 20:18 |
| ravage | Don't install that | 20:18 |
| Guest3107 | but never things like 10.04 or 16.04 or 20.04 or like | 20:18 |
| Guest3107 | in 2024 | 20:18 |
| ravage | Your options are 22.04 or 24.04 right now | 20:19 |
| ravage | Also I would still recommend a hardware check and bios update | 20:19 |
| ravage | Those freezes are not normal at all | 20:19 |
| ravage | You could also try a daily iso of 24.04 | 20:19 |
| Guest3107 | I'm with the only 1 usb stick, not the two, nor three, and an absolutely fresh drive | 20:19 |
| ravage | Well. You better get another one then | 20:20 |
| Guest3107 | ravage, what on this live can do "a hardware check"? | 20:20 |
| ravage | The USB should have a memcheck option at least | 20:20 |
| ravage | In the boot menu | 20:20 |
| Guest3107 | rebooting agai9n? | 20:21 |
| neachdainn | I'm on Ubuntu 20 and if I do `grep cgroup /proc/filesystems` or `mount | grep cgroup` I can see that there is a cgroup2 present. Does that mean I'm using cgroup2 or that it's still using cgroup1 but cgroup2 is available? | 20:22 |
| oerheks | cgroup2 is standard, since kernel 5.8 ? | 20:25 |
| sarnold | you can select between them for a while, it might depend upon the applications you're running and what services you need | 20:26 |
| oerheks | install cgroup-tools on jammy or higher | 20:26 |
| sarnold | i don't know cgroups real well :( I just know that it's all pretty complex | 20:26 |
| sarnold | systemd has very strong opinions on cgroups, and it's possible, maybe even likely, that cgroup-tools breaks those assumptions | 20:27 |
| sarnold | if cgroup-tools is in universe, probably best to not install it | 20:27 |
| oerheks | you need libcgroup1 for that expanding, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1376093/is-cgroup-tools-using-cgroup-v1-or-v2 | 20:27 |
| neachdainn | oerheks: That's what I thought, but I'm getting different cgroups (or systemd, maybe) behavior between two machines. I've got a 24 that's definitely using cgroups2 and the 20 that I'm not sure about | 20:33 |
| neachdainn | sarnold: Yeah, I'm assuming that if there is a way to switch between them it will be via systemd. | 20:34 |
| sarnold | neachdainn: probably these days systemd expects cgroup2 only | 20:36 |
| oerheks | as it is more advanced, yes | 20:37 |
| neachdainn | sarnold: According to my Googling, it appears that cgroups v2 wasn't default until Ubuntu 21. So hopefully there's a way to enable it as default in 20 | 20:37 |
| oerheks | if that 20.04 has kernel 5.8 and up with HWE .. | 20:38 |
| oerheks | 5.15 | 20:39 |
| neachdainn | Looks like it's on 5.15 and HWE until April 2025 | 20:39 |
| neachdainn | So hopefully this doesn't break anything. | 20:39 |
| sarnold | neachdainn: you could give this a shot https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Cgroups#Enable_cgroup_v1 | 20:39 |
| sarnold | neachdainn: edit /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub, and see how it goes :) | 20:40 |
| Guest632 | oh | 20:47 |
| Mibix | hmmm | 20:47 |
| Guest632 | I found hw check menu in uefi | 20:47 |
| Mibix | so my login screen is always super low resolution and my monitor cant even display it | 20:47 |
| Mibix | ever since i added another gpu | 20:47 |
| Guest632 | checkd all but storage -- all is okay | 20:47 |
| Mibix | once i login everything seems fine | 20:47 |
| neachdainn | sarnold, oerheks: The machine booted and we're running cgroups2. Haven't started any of the software stack so I'm not 100% confident that this didn't break _something_, but it looks like it's working. Thanks! | 20:49 |
| sarnold | woo! | 20:50 |
| Guest632 | freeze @ proprietary soft selection slide | 20:52 |
| Guest632 | what's it in ps -A by the way | 20:52 |
| Guest632 | the the t e h | 20:52 |
| * Guest632 can't type t e h anymore | 20:53 | |
| Guest632 | $ ps -A | grep boot | 20:54 |
| Guest632 | 8167 ? 00:00:12 ubuntu_bootstra | 20:54 |
| Mibix | hrmmm what am i doing wrong here to change the login screen resolution https://imgur.com/a/lFH9ewQ | 20:55 |
| Guest632 | but after kill -9 8167 it can't launch again | 20:55 |
| Mibix | i want to use the dvi at 2560x1600 | 20:55 |
| Guest632 | just quits after playing a launch tune | 20:56 |
| edl | hey | 20:59 |
| edl | r u there guys? | 20:59 |
| LuckyMan | yes | 21:00 |
| edl | yooo | 21:00 |
| * enyc meows edl | 21:00 | |
| edl | im using this for first time | 21:00 |
| Guest632 | https://pastebin.com/raw/XemZKGdA | 21:00 |
| LuckyMan | edl welcome | 21:00 |
| edl | thx | 21:00 |
| Guest632 | ^^ and that's what the upgraded app | 21:00 |
| edl | is it possible to have irc on windows pc? | 21:01 |
| sarnold | yes, probably mirc is still the most popular windows client | 21:01 |
| bprompt | !clients | edl | 21:01 |
| bprompt | woops | 21:01 |
| oerheks | no not possible, we are windows experts according to the topic | 21:01 |
| edl | how many people is there active? | 21:02 |
| edl | *are | 21:02 |
| bprompt | edl: you can uses something like Virc, ir Mirc or even Hexchat for windows, many clients really | 21:02 |
| leftyfb | !offtopic | edl | 21:02 |
| ubottu | edl: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 21:02 |
| oerheks | polling is of no use | 21:02 |
| bprompt | edl: but yes, you can join us at #ubuntup-offtopic for all that | 21:03 |
| edl | where to enter off topic? | 21:03 |
| bprompt | well, if I could type it correctly firstly | 21:03 |
| leftyfb | edl: /join #ubuntu-offtopic just like ubottu told you | 21:03 |
| edl | ok i'm | 21:03 |
| bprompt | edl: but yes, you can join us at #ubuntu-offtopic for all that, simply right-click #ubuntu-offtopic and click on "join" | 21:03 |
| Mibix | so monitor info is no longer stored in /home/user/.config/monitors.xml ? | 21:04 |
| oerheks | on 22.04 it is stored there | 21:06 |
| Mibix | maybe because im using kubuntu and plasma? | 21:07 |
| Mibix | changing my resolution in the GUI changes nothing in there and the info in there is not correct | 21:07 |
| oerheks | for plasma .local/share/kscreen , remove and logout/login again, should be regenerated | 21:08 |
| Mibix | i think i found it but why is it named cd3f422715f421ad5b08d0e81002b3bd lol | 21:09 |
| oerheks | but if that affects your bootscreen too, not sure | 21:09 |
| Mibix | my bootscreen is fine just not my login screen | 21:09 |
| Guest632 | wooo https://ibb.co/bg33gk5 | 21:11 |
| Guest632 | reporting appeared, something called subiquity | 21:12 |
| sarnold | subiquity is the installer | 21:12 |
| Mibix | oerheks https://imgur.com/a/kafYSRP | 21:12 |
| oerheks | no idea there, i am not on KDE | 21:15 |
| oerheks | anything 8 minutes looks interesting | 21:15 |
| Guest632 | "request to /storage/v2?wait=true crashed with CalledProcessError" | 21:15 |
| Guest632 | it's 5 or 6 report btw | 21:16 |
| Guest632 | reports, they just don't appear instantly | 21:16 |
| * Guest632 sent 'em all | 21:17 | |
| neachdainn | Whoever came up with the name "ubottu" deserves a high five | 21:18 |
| Guest632 | now it shows me this window https://ibb.co/bzHR9v5 | 21:28 |
| Guest632 | telling to do 'sudo ubuntu-bug ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap' | 21:29 |
| sarnold | man :( what an unhappy machine :( | 21:31 |
| sarnold | maybe pastebin your dmesg output ? I wonder if you've got dying hardware | 21:31 |
| Guest632 | it in turn prints "dpkg-query: no packages found matching ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap" | 21:32 |
| Guest632 | sarnold, dmesg is full of 'audit:' stuff and nothing more | 21:33 |
| sarnold | probably fine, I bet that's all snap noise | 21:34 |
| Guest632 | "[ 3135.418186] audit: type=1107 audit(1722547791.917:146): pid=1406 uid=101 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=unconfined msg='apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_signal" bus="system" path="/org/freedesktop/login1" interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="PropertiesChanged" name=":1.10" mask="receive" pid=14625 label="snap.firefox.firefox" peer_pid=1428 peer_label="unconfined" | 21:34 |
| Guest632 | firefox figures in dmesg O_O | 21:35 |
| sarnold | yeah, snap noise :( | 21:35 |
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