| halo100 | yeah | 00:12 |
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| halo100 | yeah | 00:12 |
| disgrunt | I installed Ubuntu 22.04 on btrfs but the site with the instructions to do that is gone and I want to upgrade to 24.04.... Any recommendations? | 00:32 |
| pragmaticenigma | disgrunt: you can wait a little while longer and the in place upgrade will be available soon | 00:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | *if | 00:34 |
| disgrunt | Sorry... I just started looking and saw that. Will in place upgrade be ok with btrfs? | 00:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | I don't see why it wouldn't | 00:35 |
| disgrunt | OK. Thanks. Sorry... I feel stupid now. (Unfortunately was forced Electro-Convulsive-Therapy so my memory and cognition is fried right now) | 00:37 |
| disgrunt | Thank you, thank you. | 00:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | disgrunt: I would suggest to read the release notes when the upgrade becomes available just in case. Usually, if you're running Desktop tool, it will have a link to those. | 00:40 |
| disgrunt | Thanks. | 00:43 |
| webchat81 | Hi there, I was trying to build a embedded linux system based on ubuntu base as the rootfs. However, I just could find the init process in it, in that case, which executable is used to start up the system? Am I missing something? Thanks in advance for any help. | 00:49 |
| sarnold | webchat81: https://termbin.com/6x6a | 00:50 |
| webchat81 | Thanks for the quick reply, but as I checked, there is no systemd in the /usr/lib/systemd/ directory with the ubuntu base package I just downloaded... | 00:52 |
| webchat81 | I tried both 24.04 and 22.04 ... | 00:54 |
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| sarnold | JZ: are you checking container-shaped things? containers often run a specific program as the 'init' in the container | 00:56 |
| sarnold | JZ: there's also 'pebble' which I think does some init-like tasks for containers, but I don't know much more about it than that | 00:57 |
| JZ | I was using this rootfs on an embedded system instead of containers which, as described on the webpage, should be a valid use case. I was referring to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Base and the package I downloaded was from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-base/releases/ ... | 01:00 |
| JZ | Got stuck there, thanks anyway. | 01:01 |
| sarnold | 28 megabytes zounds... | 01:03 |
| sarnold | harumph no manifest file? :( | 01:04 |
| sarnold | https://termbin.com/p65t | 01:06 |
| sarnold | this is crazy small | 01:06 |
| sarnold | it sure looks like "bring your own init" :) sheesh | 01:07 |
| mint | Hi can I get support for linux mint in this chat? | 03:21 |
| enigma9o7 | God good no! That's far to spicy. | 03:22 |
| enigma9o7 | !linuxmint | 03:22 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official !flavors. Derivatives and other distributions use different software repositories and other software. Please use their dedicated support venues, such as: Linux Mint: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org, Pop!_OS: https://support.system76.com/ , Kali Linux: #kali-linux on irc.oftc.net, LXLE: https://lxle.net/support-options/ | 03:22 |
| enigma9o7 | There are linux mint suport channels on spotchat.org tho | 03:22 |
| mint | Spotchat.org doesn't exist | 03:25 |
| mint | Nvm i found it | 03:27 |
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| senophyx | hello | 04:36 |
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| Guddu | Which is the best file copy app for Ubuntu? I need to copy folders woth 400 Gb of data for example from one external HDD to another. | 04:47 |
| rbox | cp | 04:50 |
| vlt | Guddu: I would use rsync. | 04:59 |
| Guddu | vlt, From command line? | 04:59 |
| vlt | It lets you exclude files if needed and even continue an interrupted transfer. | 05:00 |
| vlt | Because it only transfers differences between source and target. | 05:00 |
| vlt | Guddu: Yes, I would use it from command line. | 05:01 |
| pinkergloop | so usually i can access my windows partition from ubuntu | 05:12 |
| pinkergloop | but lately i've been getting "The requested operation has failed: Error mounting /dv/sda2 at (): wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2, missing codepage or helper program, or other error | 05:14 |
| pinkergloop | anyone know how to be able to just move stuff to and from my windows files as i please again? | 05:14 |
| Senophyx | wsl? | 05:14 |
| pinkergloop | nah, dual booting ubuntu and windows | 05:15 |
| pinkergloop | tbh would rather do that than wsl lmao | 05:16 |
| Senophyx | oh | 05:16 |
| pinkergloop | but yeah i used to be able to access my windows files just fine, now running into that problem | 05:16 |
| Senophyx | what did you do that caused the error? | 05:17 |
| pinkergloop | literally just try to mount my windows partition | 05:17 |
| pinkergloop | and that's usually all it takes until lately | 05:18 |
| Senophyx | maybe the partition is corrupt? idk much about partitions actually lol | 05:18 |
| pinkergloop | lol i can boot into windows still 100% fine, so not completely sure | 05:19 |
| pinkergloop | i just like ubuntu being my main OS, so sometimes i want to move files to and from it | 05:19 |
| Senophyx | yea i don't really know too, sorry | 05:20 |
| pinkergloop | all g lol | 05:20 |
| pinkergloop | if anyone else knows tho, i'm down to hear it out | 05:20 |
| Senophyx | what do you use to dual boot? | 05:20 |
| pinkergloop | UEFI and GRUB | 05:21 |
| pinkergloop | used just UEFI when i installed Ubuntu for the first time | 05:21 |
| pinkergloop | but i had to fix something post upgrade to 24.04 so i reenabled GRUB | 05:21 |
| pinkergloop | i don't think GRUB's the issue tho as it started being like that shortly before | 05:22 |
| Senophyx | ahh | 05:22 |
| eipip1eq0 | if i 'apt installed' a set of packages, can i transfer those into another ubuntu machine without taking long time reinstalling from internet? | 05:25 |
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| vlt | eipip1eq0: Quick solution: You could copy the downloaded pkg files from /var/cache/apt. That should speed up things. More involved solution: Set up an apt mirror. | 05:44 |
| vlt | pinkergloop: What does `blkid /dev/sda2` say? | 05:46 |
| pinkergloop | vlt: /dev/sda2: LABEL="Windows Stuff" BLOCK_SIZE="512" UUID="FEA652ABA6526465" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic data partition" PARTUUID="cec6a00d-3217-4df5-b378-cfbd1727f72f" | 05:47 |
| vlt | pinkergloop: What command did you use that got you the error message you pasted? (And was it really "/dv/sda2"? | 05:49 |
| pinkergloop | vlt: yeah, and i was trying to mount it via file manager | 05:51 |
| vlt | pinkergloop: You could try manually: `mount /dev/sda2 /mnt` | 05:55 |
| hwaet | i love ubuntu and i love you guys. i've used it since i was 17 | 06:13 |
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| LuckyMan | :-) | 06:17 |
| pinkergloop | vlt: mount: /mn: mount point does not exist. | 06:25 |
| pinkergloop | dmesg(1) may have more information after failed mount system call. | 06:25 |
| hwaet | is the ubuntu smartphone OS still a thing? | 06:41 |
| todd_ | hwaet: we love you too! | 06:51 |
| hwaet | i have used the apt store most of this time. because i even after all this time have not learned the technical way to install things. | 06:51 |
| hwaet | make, ./configure all that | 06:52 |
| isene | Suspend issues (24.04, 6.8.0-1010-oem); After having intermittent issues with wake-up from suspend (sometimes takes ~5mins), I reverted to the OEM kernel. That seemed to fix it, but suddenly it came back (no upgrades, it just came back). After more digging and searching, I am stuck. I have the following messages when I reboot that seems to point to the issue (but no clues of this in a web search): | 08:33 |
| isene | http://isene.com/x/20240814_142630.jpg - I hope someone could take a quick look at this and maybe point me in the right direction. Thanks. | 08:33 |
| u0_a588 | test | 09:21 |
| isene | The messages above is when I do a shutdown | 10:01 |
| l0tuspsychj3 | isene: did you file a bug yet? | 10:19 |
| isene | No. I'm still trying to figure out what exactly this is related to. It seems the laptop (new Dell XPS15) does not actually enter sleep, but hangs - not on wakeup, but in going into sleep... I tried to reset BIOS to defaults, but that changed nothing. Do you have any pointers for me (other than filing a bug report)? | 10:25 |
| l0tuspsychj3 | isene: does this issue occur on the regular kernel instead of the oem one? | 10:26 |
| l0tuspsychj3 | !info linux-image-generic noble | 10:27 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (6.8.0-40.40, noble): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-meta. Size 11 kB / 17 kB. (Only available for amd64, armhf, arm64, ppc64el, s390x.) | 10:27 |
| isene | Yes. I tried both, running now on 6.8.0-40 with same issue. | 10:30 |
| isene | but ... 40.40? | 10:31 |
| l0tuspsychj3 | thats the current noble kernel | 10:32 |
| ravage | you could give the generic kernel a try | 10:33 |
| ravage | but keep in mind there maybe be missing features for your hardware | 10:33 |
| isene | noble? | 10:34 |
| isene | I'm running linux-image-6.8.0-40-generic here... | 10:34 |
| ravage | noble is the code name for 24.04 | 10:35 |
| ravage | you pasted oem before? | 10:35 |
| ravage | "Suspend issues (24.04, 6.8.0-1010-oem)" | 10:35 |
| ravage | to quote you | 10:35 |
| isene | yes, I tried both 6.8.0-1010-oem and 6.8.0-40-generic | 10:36 |
| isene | but 6.8.0-40.40? | 10:36 |
| ravage | i dont understand the question | 10:36 |
| ravage | the current kernel version is 6.8.0-40-generic | 10:37 |
| isene | So there is a 6.8.0-40.40 - not just the 6.8.0-40 I have? | 10:37 |
| ravage | 6.8.0-40-generic #40 to be exact | 10:37 |
| isene | "6.8.0-40.40, noble" to quote the ubottu | 10:37 |
| ravage | and thats the second 40 you see in the package version | 10:37 |
| isene | ah, OK | 10:38 |
| ravage | see: uname -a | 10:38 |
| isene | So I exhausted my kernel options it seems | 10:38 |
| ravage | seems so yes | 10:38 |
| ravage | time to check launchpad for bugs and report it if you dont find anything | 10:38 |
| isene | But it's so odd that it seemed to work for a while and now it doesn't work at all (after some 20 consequtive tries) | 10:39 |
| ravage | i would file that agains the generic kernel | 10:39 |
| isene | OK, I'll do that | 10:39 |
| isene | Thanks for the guidance | 10:39 |
| isene | ravage: How do I get the messages I posted as an image in clear text? What log? | 10:53 |
| ravage | throw it at chatgpt | 10:55 |
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| j_w_t | You may need to add the dell PPA's to get the additional drivers | 10:57 |
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| mcphail | isene: is there any way in the bios you can coerce it into using traditional S3 sleep, and see if that makes a difference? | 11:18 |
| isene | j_w_t: How? Where? | 11:19 |
| isene | mcphail: I'll check | 11:19 |
| j_w_t | This is an old page but it will point you in the right direction... https://nrogap.medium.com/dell-repository-for-install-additional-drivers-on-ubuntu-4cf061640180 | 11:23 |
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| isene | j_w_t: In here, I don't find anything Dell for noble... http://dell.archive.canonical.com/updates/dists/ | 11:43 |
| isene | Could I go with an earlier release? | 11:48 |
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| isene | j_w_t: I tried this; sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://dell.archive.canonical.com/updates noble public' | 11:56 |
| isene | But got this: W: Skipping acquire of configured file 'public/binary-amd64/Packages' as repository 'http://dell.archive.canonical.com/updates noble InRelease' doesn't have the component 'public' (component misspelt in sources.list?) | 11:57 |
| isene | Looking at the subdir to noble, there is indeed no 'public' - but I have no clue which to use here; http://dell.archive.canonical.com/updates/dists/noble/ | 11:59 |
| isene | In fact - I have no clue as to what I'm looking at there... | 12:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:13 |
| daft | heya BluesKaj use #ubuntu-offtopic for casual chat. this is for help only. chat channel could use a hi | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | daft, I'm aware, but greetings aren't considered casual chat, it's just plain courtesy | 12:16 |
| oerheks | hi BluesKaj | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | hi oerheks | 12:17 |
| daft | anyway. there are people only who want to help with ubuntu support. And when someone says hello the channel flashes up. and no question is asked. staying on topic is good internet ethics. | 12:25 |
| oerheks | daft, please stop it, no need to explain channel rules to an long time ubuntu supporter like BluesKaj | 12:26 |
| BluesKaj | just had an upgrade gli ch take my networking wifi pw out and had to reset it. Testing 24.10 but that's the first time I've encountered taht kind glitch | 12:27 |
| BluesKaj | oops scuse my spelling | 12:28 |
| BluesKaj | daft we don't pedants here trying impose thier interpretations of COC .. | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | nned | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | need even | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | . | 12:30 |
| BluesKaj | biab | 12:30 |
| BluesKaj | have keep resettiing my wifi pw in sys settings...rebooted, seems ok now | 12:36 |
| oerheks | :-) | 12:36 |
| isene | mcphail: I checked - it seems that sorta works - but the machine does not go fully to suspend (consumes battery still...) | 12:41 |
| isene | ravage: Did this; https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2077084 but was asked to specify the package. Couldn't go with linux-image-6.8.0-40-generic, so I wonder what package to ascribe this to... | 12:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2077084 in Ubuntu "Suspend wake-up takes ~5mins ( Dell XPS 15 9530)" [Undecided, New] | 12:42 | |
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| deadrom | Hi. The microcode patch for sinkhole, does that mitigate _all_ affected CPUs or only those that AMD addressed via firmware updates, i.e. is my Ryzen 3000 system still to be phased out? | 14:15 |
| deadrom | https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2023-31315 | 14:17 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Improper validation in a model specific register (MSR) could allow a malicious program with ring0 access to modify SMM configuration while SMI lock is enabled, potentially leading to arbitrary code execution. <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-31315> | 14:17 | |
| deadrom | s/hole/close | 14:29 |
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| mcphail | isene: S3 suspend should consume battery as it is not hibernation (which never works well in Linux). Is it consuming horrific amounts of battery? | 14:47 |
| isene | Yeah, it seems not really sleeping at all | 14:52 |
| tomreyn | !info linux-image-6.8.0-40-generic | 14:57 |
| ubottu | linux-image-6.8.0-40-generic (6.8.0-40.40, noble): Signed kernel image generic. In component main, is optional. Built by linux-signed. Size 14,359 kB / 14,620 kB. (Only available for amd64, arm64, s390x.) | 14:57 |
| tomreyn | isene: ^ "Built by linux-signed." - that's the source package to file bugs against | 14:58 |
| JanC | when suspend uses a lot of power, always check the firmware configuration for options that keep USB devices & such powered | 14:58 |
| tomreyn | + bios update | 14:58 |
| JanC | or PCI devices (e.g. for wake-on-lan) | 14:58 |
| tomreyn | look for " PM: " in journalctl -b | 15:00 |
| tomreyn | look for " PM: " in journalctl -b -1 | 15:00 |
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| tomreyn | (the log viewer / $PAGER is "less" by default, press "/" to search) | 15:01 |
| CosmicDJ | is it just me or do steam games stop working every time there's a snap update? | 15:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | CosmicDJ: Are you running the Steam app from the snap package? | 15:11 |
| CosmicDJ | pragmaticenigma: yes | 15:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | CosmicDJ: From what I can tell, the snap is not maintained by Valve, but is being created and maintained by Canonical. Going to guess that bugs are introduced with the 3rd party handling of creating the snap from what Valve is releasing directly in the .deb file. | 15:17 |
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| ogra_ | CosmicDJ, make sure to report isues in the issue tracker, there is quite a big team working on the steam snap in canonical, they definitely want to know about issues you are facing https://github.com/canonical/steam-snap | 15:59 |
| l__ | kenttä3kajaani-25 | 16:07 |
| leftyfb | l__: can we help you with something? | 16:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | l__: Also, if that was a password to an account of yours, you probably will want to change it. | 16:12 |
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| lotuspsychj3 | isene: you need to change the package from 'ubuntu' to linux (the kernel) on your ubuntu bug ID | 16:44 |
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| Noir | Hello guys. Wanna ask something. How can I remove the black screen on both side of my screen? | 18:19 |
| Noir | My laptop default resolution is 1920x1080 but I changed to 1440 x 900 and got black screen on both side | 18:19 |
| vlt | Noir: Is the entire screen used in 1920x1080 mode? | 18:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | Noir, use 1600 x 900 resolution which is the next smaller 16:9 resolution format | 18:22 |
| Noir | Yeah if I changed back to that resolution I get fullscreen | 18:22 |
| vlt | Noir: Ah, of course! 1440x900 is not 16:9! | 18:23 |
| gordonjcp | yeah there's no way to display that fullscreen on a 16:9 panel without distortion | 18:23 |
| leftyfb | Noir: your screen is 16:9 ratio. 1440x900 is 16:10 | 18:23 |
| Noir | Oh is it thank you guys | 18:23 |
| Noir | I thought it was possible | 18:23 |
| Noir | Yeah I changed to 1600 x 900 | 18:23 |
| Noir | It works! | 18:23 |
| Noir | Thanks a lot. Bye | 18:24 |
| vlt | I was about to ask *why* the smaller resolution. Maybe they just needed to increase font and icon sizes. | 18:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | more than likely the reason vlt | 18:28 |
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| belovedsandworm | Is it pretty straightforward to install .deb on UwUntu | 19:07 |
| belovedsandworm | I mean Ubuntu | 19:07 |
| leftyfb | belovedsandworm: sudo dpkg -i package.deb | 19:07 |
| leftyfb | but it's preferred to stick with packages from the repositories | 19:07 |
| belovedsandworm | what repositories? You mean snaps? | 19:08 |
| leftyfb | belovedsandworm: what package are you trying to install? | 19:08 |
| belovedsandworm | Digilent Waveforms | 19:08 |
| belovedsandworm | But if its a snap I can't use it | 19:08 |
| leftyfb | I don't know if it is. But why can't you use snaps? | 19:08 |
| belovedsandworm | its against my religion | 19:08 |
| belovedsandworm | its very anti-linux | 19:09 |
| leftyfb | please troll elsewhere | 19:09 |
| belovedsandworm | bro | 19:09 |
| belovedsandworm | you asked and i told you | 19:09 |
| leftyfb | no, lets not | 19:09 |
| belovedsandworm | don't get mad when you get an answer | 19:09 |
| belovedsandworm | snaps go against the way linux is intended to be used | 19:09 |
| leftyfb | there's no reason you can't use snaps. You choose not to because of FUD a | 19:09 |
| leftyfb | false | 19:09 |
| belovedsandworm | opinions differ | 19:10 |
| belovedsandworm | most linux users think snaps are a bad idea | 19:10 |
| belovedsandworm | but let's not argue | 19:10 |
| luna_3 | Is there a webpage or app that plays podcasts and allows one to speed it up and skip around? Please. | 19:10 |
| leftyfb | luna_3: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu | 19:10 |
| belovedsandworm | yeah luna how dare you come to #ubuntu seeking help | 19:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | luna_3, VLC can play audio and the keybaord shortcuts `[` and `]` can be used to speed up and slow down the playback | 19:11 |
| luna_3 | belovedsandworm, I didnt know that "most linux uses think snaps are bad?. Can you help me understand. | 19:11 |
| leftyfb | luna_3: don't, there's no use | 19:11 |
| vlt | luna_3: mpv can do this, too. | 19:11 |
| luna_3 | leftyb. ok "this aint the place" | 19:11 |
| vortexx | belovedsandworm: just use .debs, there is no issue here. | 19:11 |
| belovedsandworm | If you go to #linux and took a poll it would probably be overwhelmingly against using snaps for various reasons | 19:11 |
| leftyfb | belovedsandworm: please stay on topic here | 19:12 |
| belovedsandworm | bro | 19:12 |
| vlt | Serious: What are snaps? | 19:12 |
| luna_3 | OK bloved.. irc uses. | 19:12 |
| belovedsandworm | dude asked | 19:12 |
| luna_3 | ok belovedsandworm irc users | 19:12 |
| * vlt heads to #ubuntu-offtopic | 19:12 | |
| belovedsandworm | Sure, that's fair to say. But I think it might be a general result. | 19:12 |
| leftyfb | vlt: it's another package format. Using snaps you're more than likely to get a newer release packaged directly by the developer/vendor. Firefox by default is installed as a snap package and is maintained directly by Mozilla | 19:13 |
| belovedsandworm | Some snaps come to you broken as well. | 19:13 |
| belovedsandworm | Like firefox. | 19:13 |
| oerheks | belovedsandworm, stop it, thanks. | 19:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | belovedsandworm, do you have a support question? | 19:14 |
| belovedsandworm | That's a fact oerheks | 19:14 |
| bob54 | Firefox is crap anyways | 19:14 |
| belovedsandworm | The Firefox snap has several broken features. You has to install the ppa to get a working version. | 19:14 |
| bob54 | They sold their soul to ripple | 19:14 |
| belovedsandworm | Not trolling, just stating facts. | 19:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | belovedsandworm, do you have a support question? | 19:14 |
| belovedsandworm | Yeah, can you fix the Firefox snap? | 19:14 |
| ravage | vlt: https://snapcraft.io/musicpod looks nice but I don't know about all the features | 19:15 |
| pragmaticenigma | that's not a support question. if you want to chat, proselytize, or other things, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel | 19:15 |
| belovedsandworm | Also, if you stop being lazy and look above I came here asking about a .deb and installing it in Ubuntu. | 19:15 |
| ravage | Just try it maybe | 19:15 |
| belovedsandworm | pragmaticenigma: please see above and stop trolling | 19:15 |
| leftyfb | belovedsandworm: and you were given the answer | 19:15 |
| belovedsandworm | thaks leftyfb | 19:15 |
| belovedsandworm | actually I'm running into a bunch of dependency issues here | 19:21 |
| leftyfb | belovedsandworm: if you installed the .deb with dpkg and there's dependency issues, try: sudo apt install -f | 19:22 |
| leftyfb | if that doesn't work, you'll have to contact the 3rd party vendor for support with their software | 19:22 |
| tomreyn | you can actually use apt directly to install a .deb and that will try to solve dependencies right then | 19:22 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: you know, the last few times I've tried that it hasn't worked | 19:23 |
| tomreyn | apt install /path/to/package.deb | 19:23 |
| tomreyn | okay, i have little experience with it, wouldn't install unmanaged .deb's | 19:23 |
| belovedsandworm | this seems like the default answer here. 'contact the 3rd party vendor for support with their software' | 19:24 |
| belovedsandworm | no ofense | 19:24 |
| belovedsandworm | what does that -f do? | 19:25 |
| tomreyn | the man page will tell, no offense | 19:25 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pZm3GdbbcV/ | 19:25 |
| ravage | ./nameof.deb | 19:26 |
| leftyfb | belovedsandworm: yes, if it's a piece of software not provided or available in the ubuntu repositories, we cannot be expected to support it | 19:26 |
| ravage | It does not check the current directory | 19:26 |
| leftyfb | ravage: ah, that does work | 19:26 |
| ravage | So you need to give the path | 19:26 |
| leftyfb | I just have a "dpkgi" alias that is almost muscle memory for me | 19:28 |
| leftyfb | but more importantly, I hardly ever install packages from the .deb directly :) | 19:28 |
| leftyfb | and if I do, it's part of my new machine bringup using ansible | 19:28 |
| belovedsandworm | leftyfb: I understand that to a degree but even snaps you don't support | 19:37 |
| belovedsandworm | while basically forcing the user into using snaps | 19:37 |
| belovedsandworm | make it make sense | 19:37 |
| leftyfb | belovedsandworm: when it's the known "broken" features you're talking about with firefox, there's absolutely we can do. Those are things Mozilla and Canonical are working on | 19:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | leftyfb, I think you left out a word there | 19:38 |
| leftyfb | sorry, "nothing" we can do | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | having multiple conversations at work at the same time | 19:39 |
| belovedsandworm | tomreyn: no offense but man apt says nothing about -f | 19:39 |
| belovedsandworm | I checked there first | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | man apt-get | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | unfortunately, apt is sort of just a wrapper for apt-get | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | -f, --fix-broken | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | Fix; attempt to correct a system with broken dependencies in place. This option, when used with install/remove, can omit any packages to permit APT to deduce a likely solution. If packages are specified, | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | these have to completely correct the problem. The option is sometimes necessary when running APT for the first time; APT itself does not allow broken package dependencies to exist on a system. It is possible | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | that a system's dependency structure can be so corrupt as to require manual intervention (which usually means using dpkg --remove to eliminate some of the offending packages). Use of this option together with | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | -m may produce an error in some situations. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Fix-Broken. | 19:40 |
| belovedsandworm | i got it leftyfb | 19:40 |
| belovedsandworm | thank you | 19:40 |
| belovedsandworm | ah, finally got it installed. :) | 19:46 |
| l___ | !++ | 20:10 |
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| bebop | has 24.x lts been released to do an upgrade yet? | 20:54 |
| leftyfb | bebop: 24.04 was release 4 months ago | 20:55 |
| enigma9o7 | No, in fact it was officially delayed. | 20:55 |
| enigma9o7 | not for upgrade leftyfb | 20:55 |
| leftyfb | bebop: 24.04.1 will be released at some point this month, at which point you'll be able to upgrade from a previous LTS | 20:55 |
| enigma9o7 | 24.04.1 hasn't been released and is delayed until 29 August. | 20:56 |
| leftyfb | everything I posted is true | 20:56 |
| enigma9o7 | Yep. | 20:57 |
| enigma9o7 | Me too. | 20:57 |
| enigma9o7 | Amazing :) | 20:57 |
| enigma9o7 | Such great support here. | 20:57 |
| bebop | enigma9o7: that's sad it was delayed after they set a date of august 15th a while back | 20:58 |
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| leftyfb | August 19th | 20:59 |
| leftyfb | was the original date | 20:59 |
| enigma9o7 | Yep, but apperantly there are some upgrade issues they want to solve first. Better than releasing something that causes people upgrade issues. | 20:59 |
| bebop | 15th | 20:59 |
| Guest25 | Yo | 21:00 |
| oerheks | happened before. | 21:00 |
| leftyfb | hm, looks like the dev who posted about the delay got it wrong | 21:00 |
| bebop | doesn't look like it makes much difference since they delayed it | 21:02 |
| bebop | but from what ask ubuntu stated it was the 15th | 21:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | ask ubuntu as well as this channel is run by volunteers... not really an authoritative source | 21:03 |
| oerheks | 'was' | 21:03 |
| bebop | guess I'll upgrade on the 29th then | 21:04 |
| enigma9o7 | Or maybe wait til Sept 4th. Might be safer. | 21:04 |
| oerheks | stay on 22.04 🤪 | 21:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | bebop, your machine will let you know when it's ready... either in the desktop software app, or in the terminal when you run apt update (I think) | 21:05 |
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| Mago | Hi.. ANy open source program for music sheet reading, translation and similar? | 21:51 |
| Elliria | Here are some possible programs: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1514032/software-to-make-music | 21:55 |
| tomreyn | pleas eodon't cross-post, Mago | 21:55 |
| Elliria | Actually, the first two on that page aren't open source. | 21:56 |
| Mago | Are ubuntu and linux the same channel? Why cant i post in both? | 21:56 |
| leftyfb | Mago: what release of ubuntu are you running? | 21:57 |
| Mago | I think is jammy | 21:57 |
| leftyfb | open the "Ubuntu Software" util and type "sheet music" into the search in the top-left | 21:58 |
| Mago | Yes its jammy | 21:59 |
| Mago | Cool | 21:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | Mago, crossposting makes it difficult to help a person. If multiple channels are all trying to help you at the same time, you may get conflicting information. Or have a suggestion in one channel that interferes with the efforts of another. It's better to start with one, wait, then move on to another after a decent amount of time has passed | 22:00 |
| Mago | Is this an enforced rule? Because I totally disagree. | 22:00 |
| Mago | Ubuntu is more specific to my system and linux relates to a broader range of systems.. | 22:00 |
| leftyfb | Mago: it's common courtesy | 22:01 |
| fweht | can i do something about this? my iphone could connect to the same network (flixbus) without problems... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3hicNIpe/image.png | 22:01 |
| Mago | Most times when ubuntu fails to deliver the help I need the right "answer" or direction to further investigate comes from linux. | 22:01 |
| Mago | In the other hand ubuntu is more targetted and specific to the system im running.. | 22:02 |
| leftyfb | fweht: check the date/time on your computer | 22:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | Mago, you said the exact thing I mentioned. Ubuntu is focused with people who are going to offer suggestions coherent to your system. Linux is going to be much broader and suggest things that may or may not be compatible with your system. | 22:02 |
| fweht | leftyfb: seems good | 22:02 |
| tomreyn | fweht: remove the 's' in https:// in your url | 22:02 |
| fweht | ah will try just a second | 22:02 |
| ravage | Try to just enter 8.8.8.8 | 22:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | Mago, especially if you don't qualify your request of information about what you're working with | 22:03 |
| ravage | That usually takes you to the captive portal | 22:03 |
| ravage | Or check if there is a URL on the WiFi sticker somewhere | 22:03 |
| ravage | In any case you should get to the login page your iPhone takes you when You connect | 22:04 |
| Mago | For me ubuntu and linux are 2 different sources.. Is like telling me dont check stackexchange or stack overflow. | 22:04 |
| enigma9o7 | The difference is irc is interactive. | 22:04 |
| tomreyn | Mago: we're kindly asking you to ask in one place first, the other place later. just like you cannot read two books at the same time. | 22:05 |
| fweht | ah thanks i had https only mode on in firefox | 22:05 |
| topcat001 | fweht other options are neverssl.com and captive.apple.com | 22:05 |
| tomreyn | Mago: if you need to discuss this more, we can move to #ubuntu-ops | 22:05 |
| enigma9o7 | The channels are seperate, so someone may have already answered you on the other channel, but nobody here would know that. | 22:05 |
| enigma9o7 | They might waste their time trying to help you for no reason. | 22:06 |
| Mago | This feels like censorship.. Read your IRC guidelines, no crossposting relates to ubuntu subsections.. | 22:11 |
| Mago | I think i can post whatever I want in electronics, python or linux for the matter. | 22:12 |
| Mago | Is it wrong that I as for a music sheet reader in electronics? I dont think so. | 22:12 |
| Mago | ask | 22:12 |
| gordonjcp | Mago: censorship does not exist on the Internet | 22:13 |
| tomreyn | everyone, let's move back to support here, please, thanks. | 22:13 |
| gordonjcp | Mago: there is a difference between being told you cannot say something, and being told you cannot say something *here* | 22:14 |
| gordonjcp | Mago: now take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please | 22:14 |
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| bynarie | Hey guys, got a question.. Is there a way to encrypt the entire casper-rw partition with ubuntu 24.04? So making a live usb with persistence but the persist part is fully encrypted??? | 22:35 |
| bynarie | If someone could give me a little help and ping me please... thank you | 22:35 |
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| l___ | g+ | 23:04 |
| gbozz | I completely cleared my iptables (-F and -X) and installed ufw. But with it enabled, not even ping works. I've ufw add'ed Postfix, Samba, CUPS and ssh. The rest of the junk in there has been added by other services that have started (sshguard, docker). Can anybody shed some light? https://pastebin.com/2yjf9bx8 | 23:47 |
| ravage | your input chain drops everything except sshguard | 23:50 |
| ravage | so everything else in that firewall is ignored | 23:51 |
| gbozz | Thanks ravage. Given the steps I took to set it up (pretty basic), what would do that? | 23:52 |
| ravage | i do not really use uwf. but when you enable it it should add it self to that input chain | 23:53 |
| ravage | if that disappears some script does not play nice and just deletes stuff | 23:53 |
| gbozz | ufw is like everything - saves tonnes of time and is really convenient until it stops working mysteriously after an upgrade! | 23:54 |
| dkt | gbozz: just do a ufw reset and it should clear everything out | 23:54 |
| gbozz | it replaces the DROP with an ACCEPT, and all its chains are still there, just empty. | 23:55 |
| gbozz | Doesn't really solve my problem though. | 23:56 |
| ravage | after a "sudo uwf enable" | 23:56 |
| ravage | there should be more in that INPUT chain | 23:56 |
| gbozz | I'll enable it again and see what it happens. I might disappear out of chat for a second :) | 23:57 |
| ravage | also maybe share: sudo ufw status verbose | 23:58 |
| gbozz | Yeah, then there's this nasty bug: | 23:58 |
| gbozz | ERROR: problem running ufw-init | 23:58 |
| gbozz | iptables-restore: line 4 failed | 23:58 |
| gbozz | That error always happens on the first `ufw enable`. Second one always is OK. | 23:58 |
| gbozz | Ever since upgrade from 20.04 -> 22.04. | 23:59 |
| ravage | do you have iptables-persistent enabled? | 23:59 |
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