| maszlo | greetings. today my thinkpad got the offer to upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04.1. I took it haphazardly. For the most part it appeared good, but i believe I have some settings conflicts from using the 'keep existing' option when prompted. Is there an easy why to see what was offered? | 00:05 |
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| maszlo | i tried searching if there was a prune type proceedure. I have upgraded on this thing for like 5+ years. i wonder if maybe my luck has run out and needs a reinstall. | 00:07 |
| shadowhawk2045 | hello | 00:17 |
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| BlackDemon | sup shadowhawk2045 | 00:20 |
| BlackDemon | i've seen you | 00:20 |
| shadowhawk2045 | hey BlackDemon! | 00:22 |
| BlackDemon | I went back to Ubuntu. | 00:22 |
| BlackDemon | Why? Defeat. | 00:22 |
| shadowhawk2045 | from which distro? | 00:22 |
| BlackDemon | from numerous | 00:22 |
| BlackDemon | a whole train | 00:22 |
| shadowhawk2045 | ah | 00:22 |
| BlackDemon | Debian 12 Cinnamon > LMDE 6 > Archcraft > Debian 12 Gnome > Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS | 00:22 |
| BlackDemon | and mannnnyyyyy before the first | 00:23 |
| leftyfb | BlackDemon: welcome. What do you need help with? | 00:23 |
| BlackDemon | leftyfb: Not much at the moment but perhaps finally quitting all distrohopping. | 00:23 |
| leftyfb | BlackDemon: This is a support channel. If you'd like to just chat, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic | 00:23 |
| shadowhawk2045 | ive been thinking about trying some Gnome themes | 00:23 |
| shadowhawk2045 | reading about how to use them | 00:23 |
| shadowhawk2045 | but tbh, i think i kind of like the default Ubuntu interface | 00:24 |
| shadowhawk2045 | i changed the highlight color to green | 00:24 |
| shadowhawk2045 | and it goes GREAT with my wallpaper | 00:24 |
| shadowhawk2045 | :) | 00:24 |
| BlackDemon | I made my HexChat look like Ubuntu | 00:25 |
| BlackDemon | https://imgbox.com/FuLBh3zK | 00:26 |
| BlackDemon | shadowhawk2045: | 00:26 |
| shadowhawk2045 | hmm | 00:28 |
| BlackDemon | also my terminal | 00:29 |
| BlackDemon | changed it from mauve to dark gray like the title bar | 00:30 |
| BlackDemon | https://imgbox.com/JDNWoS1j | 00:31 |
| BlackDemon | thematic unity | 00:31 |
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| leftyfb | BlackDemon: feel free to continue your already ongoing discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic. We try to keep this channel to support topics | 00:31 |
| BlackDemon | sorry leftyfb | 00:31 |
| BlackDemon | got a bit enthusiastic :3 | 00:31 |
| leftyfb | that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for. Go nuts in there :) | 00:32 |
| BlackDemon | anyways check out my theming - i'll be over there | 00:32 |
| vortexx | https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1bil08j/sennheiser_gsa_670s_odd_infuriating_behavior_on/ <--- I have this exact problem since upgrading to 24.04. This is either a driver issue or an audio framework issue | 00:36 |
| vortexx | it worked solidly in 22.04 for two years | 00:37 |
| vortexx | (and in 21.04 and 21.10 before then) | 00:37 |
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| tomreyn | maszlo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/12699/how-can-i-revert-a-config-file-back-to-the-originally-installed-version-after-i | 01:36 |
| tomreyn | maszlo: see also "filesystem filenames" at https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/en/man1/dpkg.1.html#files | 01:40 |
| tomreyn | sudo find /etc -type f -name '*\.ucf-*' -o -name '\.dpkg-*' | 01:43 |
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| Furai | Are there some upgrade notes for going 22.04 -> 24.04? I couldn't find it. I want to be know what I need to be aware of. So far I've only noticed that apt.sources list changed format/place. | 04:25 |
| g80 | hi i just installed ubuntu cinammon. how do i make the mouse pointer bigger? | 05:17 |
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| jstreet | hello? | 06:20 |
| blahdeblah | jstreet: your test message works perfectly! | 06:21 |
| jstreet | thanx | 06:21 |
| jstreet | is this for open chat or just for support? | 06:27 |
| jstreet | nevermind | 06:28 |
| blahdeblah | jstreet: the topic has links to channel guidelines | 06:28 |
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| BlackDemon | Who actually likes Gnome? Lol | 07:06 |
| BlackDemon | I do and I got some "heat" for it. | 07:06 |
| Guest40 | !log | 07:14 |
| ubottu | Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ | 07:14 |
| Guest45 | enzotib__ non so se hai letto il mio ultimo messaggio di ieri | 07:53 |
| Guest45 | excuse me, i wrong | 07:53 |
| Guest45 | leftyfb [17:56] <leftyfb> Guest40: do you run your own Active Directory server or are you on a network that requires you to login to one? If not, you don't need it. | 07:54 |
| Guest45 | [18:25] <Guest40> Sorry but I didn't even understand the meaning of the question because I don't know what the things you mentioned are | 07:54 |
| dhanodh | hi | 08:29 |
| BlackDemon | hello there | 08:29 |
| dhanodh | are you using linux? | 08:30 |
| dhanodh | oh, this is a ubuntu help channel | 08:30 |
| ravage | at least he found out himself. more than you see from most people 😛 | 08:31 |
| OutOfService | hi | 08:59 |
| OutOfService | I'm trying to use the rsyslog opcion in my user-data from cloud-ini in order to configure rsyslog in the deployed machine. This is the paste I'm using: https://pastebin.com/mz6cM2NE But nothing is getting configured there. The ip of the rsyslog server is 10.0.0.8, so I think the lines are ok.. I need some advice, please | 09:00 |
| Guest92 | https://www.forum.or.id/threads/desan.3096084/ | 09:28 |
| Guest92 | Help please how to start ? https://DkonApp.github.io/start.html | 09:31 |
| Guest45 | ravage what's active directory? | 09:35 |
| Guest45 | https://ubuntucommunity.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/original/3X/7/5/7578560dea014f12ec591489b94be0dd93ec059b.jpeg | 09:35 |
| dhanodh | hi | 09:39 |
| lowin | Is something wrong with my internet connection or is the packages.ubuntu.com website really really slow? | 09:59 |
| tomreyn | probably the latter. and maybe the former, too. | 10:09 |
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| NeonCoder | test | 10:26 |
| lotuspsychje | we see you NeonCoder | 10:26 |
| NeonCoder | awesome | 10:26 |
| lotuspsychje | how can we help you today NeonCoder | 10:27 |
| NeonCoder | Im good, just testing the irc thing, thank you though | 10:27 |
| lotuspsychje | great, welcome to the ubuntu community | 10:27 |
| Pricey | I have a boring Canon printer. I have a bunch of nice photos. I have A4 glossy photo paper. I want to print 6x4 photos to it. What is the best way? Arranging in libreoffice draw etc. ? I feel like it should be easier to select 4 photos and say "print them"... | 10:31 |
| Pricey | Shotwell lets me size properly, but won't print >1 together. | 10:31 |
| lotuspsychje | Pricey: we had photoprint on the repos used to be | 10:32 |
| lotuspsychje | but they ditched it | 10:32 |
| lotuspsychje | !info photocollage | Pricey | 10:34 |
| ubottu | Pricey: photocollage (1.4.5-0.2, noble): Graphical tool to make photo collage posters. In component universe, is optional. Built by photocollage. Size 170 kB / 561 kB | 10:34 |
| lotuspsychje | i was using this one, as alternate to group pictures in a collage | 10:35 |
| Pricey | Thanks, that's really cool but not what I was looking for. I want to print my photos individually in (e.g.) 6x4 size. | 10:36 |
| Pricey | Googling suggests draw might be the way. | 10:36 |
| k1t2 | siema | 10:48 |
| k1t2 | nigger | 10:48 |
| lotuspsychje | !pl | k1t2 | 10:48 |
| ubottu | k1t2: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl. | 10:48 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:42 |
| Guest38 | ravage | 11:53 |
| Guest38 | yoooooooooooooo | 11:53 |
| Guest38 | sub homie | 11:53 |
| voltx23 | hi | 11:55 |
| Guest38 | can I send a self promotion link in here | 11:55 |
| Guest38 | O:3 | 11:55 |
| vulpes_zerda | What is the purpose of this route in my nmcli? route4 169.254.0.0/16 metric 1000 | 11:56 |
| vulpes_zerda | i do not have that network range anywhere in my LAN | 11:56 |
| ioria | APIPA | 11:58 |
| voltx23 | isn't the address automatically assigned... | 11:59 |
| voltx23 | when you fail to contact dhcp, it waits then you get it, same in windows. | 12:00 |
| vulpes_zerda | Is that a statement or question? | 12:03 |
| ioria | the first | 12:03 |
| tomreyn | Guest38: this is a support channel (only), please see the guidelines link in the /topic | 12:03 |
| vulpes_zerda | The route re-creates upon deletion only on one Debian system but not another | 12:04 |
| vulpes_zerda | it must be a software issue | 12:04 |
| ioria | vulpes_zerda, /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd | 12:04 |
| vulpes_zerda | ioria: Perfect answer! I see the line causing my pain! Thanks for the solution | 12:05 |
| ioria | ok | 12:05 |
| tomreyn | vulpes_zerda: please note this channel is strictly for ubuntu support, there's also #debian | 12:06 |
| vulpes_zerda | How did you know it is avahi? | 12:06 |
| ioria | usually it is the culprit | 12:06 |
| vulpes_zerda | Ubuntu == debian unstable, but I kindly off myself now for using the wrong distro. My bad, dissident zerda will sign off! | 12:06 |
| techniciancit | Hi everone, honestly I'm glad people still use irc. I miss it greatly. I have a forum post that I'm hoping someone can answer. I have googled the problem and searched the forum. I tried ask ubuntu but some are downvoting my question instead of answering it. I was hoping i can get more help here? Forum post is | 12:44 |
| techniciancit | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2500957 | 12:44 |
| techniciancit | It's about me messing up the permissions on the partitions . I'm a windows user, I made the move to linux but still learning | 12:45 |
| Eniot | hi techniciancit :-) what do you want to know on the partitions ? | 12:47 |
| techniciancit | Thanks for asking Eniot, I posted on the forum the back story and question :) Link above | 12:48 |
| Eniot | ok i go read the post :-) | 12:49 |
| leftyfb | techniciancit: you don't ever change permissions on anything in /dev/ | 12:50 |
| leftyfb | that's a device file, not a mount point/filesystem | 12:50 |
| techniciancit | Thanks leftyfb , i suppose I learnt my lesson. How do i fix it? | 12:51 |
| techniciancit | i need to change it back to what it was and then i need to change the ownership of the partition | 12:51 |
| leftyfb | techniciancit: reboot | 12:51 |
| techniciancit | ok let me try | 12:52 |
| techniciancit | leftyfb I rebooted but i still see the triangles when I open disks app. if i see the triangles does it mean that it's read only? am i meant to use sudo chown <group name> | 12:56 |
| leftyfb | read-only in terms of disk mount has nothing to do with permissions | 12:56 |
| leftyfb | techniciancit: please explain what it is exactly you're trying to accomplish? | 12:57 |
| techniciancit | leftyfb I'm trying to get it off read only. If I open the partitian I can see the root folder showing the red cross on it. I basically need to change ownership so I can access all the files and copy them off the partitian | 12:58 |
| leftyfb | why do you need it off of read-only? | 12:58 |
| leftyfb | you can copy files off of a read-only drive | 12:59 |
| leftyfb | you just can't write | 12:59 |
| Eniot | this link can be help you ? https://github.com/gestur1976/restore-ubuntu-default-file-permissions-and-owners | 13:00 |
| leftyfb | Eniot: no, that is incorrect in this particular case | 13:00 |
| leftyfb | there is nothing wrong with file permissions | 13:00 |
| Eniot | ok | 13:01 |
| leftyfb | techniciancit: is there some other reason you need write permission to the drive in order to copy files from it? | 13:02 |
| leftyfb | techniciancit: because from what you have stated, you can certainly accomomplish your goal in the current state. No changes needed. | 13:02 |
| techniciancit | i do need to reset the permissions I already set. Before i tried to change permissions it was just the one partition I couldn't change I'm helping someone else who asked for my help as i know more about computers than he does. but still learning ubuntu myself. he mentioned he's trying to access the file so not sure if there's another reason he | 13:07 |
| techniciancit | wants to change ownership. If i copy the file off the read only partitian then will the file itself stay as read only or is it like windows where you can copy the file and still access it fine once copied? | 13:07 |
| leftyfb | techniciancit: copy the file first, worry about permissions on said file after | 13:08 |
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| techniciancit | leftyfb i'll try that now. Can I ask what the triangles mean on the bottom right of the partitions? They weren't there before I tried changing the permissions. And has rebooting fixed the permissions? I tried accessing the other partition and it stopped asking me for a password so I'm assuming the permissions are back to normal. | 13:10 |
| techniciancit | lol i just guessed the triangles mean that the partition is mounted, i feel like such a noob :D | 13:12 |
| techniciancit | leftyfb i got hold of him to ask him what file he was trying to access and it's working now. So the permissions seemed to have worked as he couldn't access the file befor | 13:22 |
| techniciancit | what may have helped is i tried using the sudo chown <name> command. from then on I could change the permissions of the folder | 13:23 |
| techniciancit | leftyfb thanks for the help | 13:30 |
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| BlackDemon | https://imgur.com/a/oOQ0RWB - I wonder if old Snap versions can be safely removed. | 18:01 |
| pavlos | https://superuser.com/questions/1310825/how-to-remove-old-version-of-installed-snaps | 18:02 |
| BlackDemon | pavlos: Is it safe to remove old cores? | 18:04 |
| pavlos | if you run 24.04, I think it is safe to remove core18, core20, core22 | 18:05 |
| BlackDemon | thank youuu :3 | 18:05 |
| leftyfb | I'm not so sure that's true | 18:06 |
| leftyfb | it's 2.3G in size | 18:06 |
| BlackDemon | looks like core20 is used by spotify | 18:06 |
| leftyfb | I would leave them | 18:06 |
| BlackDemon | core18 was nuked without further ado | 18:06 |
| leftyfb | I'm pretty sure they are for compatibility with older snaps | 18:07 |
| pavlos | sudo snap refresh to have the latest | 18:07 |
| BlackDemon | ohhhhh!!! | 18:07 |
| BlackDemon | it's like a dependency | 18:07 |
| leftyfb | right | 18:07 |
| BlackDemon | I removed core18 without issue because no current snaps required it | 18:07 |
| leftyfb | 339MB | 18:08 |
| pavlos | snap list --all if Notes is disabled, you can remove it | 18:09 |
| BlackDemon | Is there a GUI utility that manages snaps directly? | 18:10 |
| leftyfb | pavlos: again, that's not true | 18:11 |
| leftyfb | BlackDemon: not like this, no | 18:11 |
| BlackDemon | ah dang | 18:11 |
| BlackDemon | it's ok | 18:11 |
| BlackDemon | snaps do seem to be simple to deal with | 18:11 |
| leftyfb | pavlos: leave the cores alone | 18:11 |
| leftyfb | and "disabled" in the list does NOT mean you can just remove them | 18:11 |
| BlackDemon | oh.. jeez I just did that before reading - what do I do now | 18:12 |
| leftyfb | reinstall the cores you removed | 18:12 |
| leftyfb | and gnome if you're using that | 18:12 |
| leftyfb | anything else is up to you | 18:12 |
| pavlos | leftyfb: https://dev.to/taimenwillems/how-to-clean-up-snap-versions-to-free-up-disk-space-22o2 | 18:13 |
| leftyfb | pavlos: yup, that's a script some dude on the internet made that deletes stuff based on a misunderstood criteria | 18:14 |
| BlackDemon | I removed the disabled core22 instance. Idk why my computer didn't go kaput. | 18:14 |
| leftyfb | BlackDemon: I'm not saying it'll definitely cause problems doing so or not, but I can tell, you, having spotify installed which relies on core20, and core20 still showing up as "disabled" means that "disabled" doesn't mean it can be safely removed | 18:15 |
| Sayona_ | Hi! I want to install Ubuntu 24.04.1 on my desktop, where I have software raid with 2 ssd in raid1... but When I want to install ubuntu I don't see the hdds as one and no old partitions when I choose manual disk... but in ubuntu desktop I see the partitions... | 18:15 |
| Sayona_ | it's a bug? | 18:15 |
| pavlos | "some dude" is an ex-Engineering Manager (popey) at Canonical | 18:15 |
| leftyfb | Sayona_: use the installer to create the ROAD volumes | 18:16 |
| BlackDemon | leftfb: it was a disabled core*22* | 18:16 |
| Sayona_ | leftyfb, yes but there I have an partition and I don't want to remove it... I want to use an existing partition to install it. but I don't see it ... | 18:16 |
| BlackDemon | pavlos: as in, a salty Canonical ex-employee | 18:17 |
| leftyfb | pavlos: false. The article you posted was written by https://dev.to/taimenwillems who sourced his information from https://www.debugpoint.com/author/admin1/. Neither explained what "disabled" means and why they think it's ok to remove packages flagged as such | 18:18 |
| pavlos | and the post with 217 votes was written by popey | 18:18 |
| leftyfb | pavlos: ah, I see the disconnect here.... | 18:19 |
| leftyfb | core20 should NOT be removed. version 20240416 of core20 can be removed | 18:19 |
| leftyfb | it's versions of snaps, not the snaps themselves | 18:20 |
| pavlos | leftyfb: no worries | 18:20 |
| leftyfb | apologies | 18:20 |
| * BlackDemon headpats ya both. | 18:21 | |
| BlackDemon | Life of Ubuntu. | 18:21 |
| BlackDemon | Learned a mild lesson. | 18:28 |
| BlackDemon | I was able to remove gnome-3-38-2004 | 18:28 |
| BlackDemon | At the cost of spotify even working | 18:28 |
| BlackDemon | So I went back and reinstalled it | 18:28 |
| BlackDemon | Spotify launched in 1 second | 18:28 |
| BlackDemon | Problem solved | 18:28 |
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| Sayona_ | leftyfb, I think the Ubuntu doesn't recongnize the raid array automated because doesn't have the driver? | 19:02 |
| tomreyn | Sayona_: i'm not certain about this but i think no ubuntu installer supports reusing existing software raids. you can, however, just not configure, not use, and not remove them in the installer and only configure them manually after installation. | 19:09 |
| Sayona_ | with an old version I don't have this issue :( | 19:10 |
| tomreyn | another option is to install using debootstrap, but (unless you're used to debootstrap) it's a lot more work than using an installer. | 19:10 |
| Sayona_ | thanks, I will try | 19:10 |
| tomreyn | which old version supports detecting existing software raid? which version are you trying to install? | 19:11 |
| tomreyn | and are you using the desktop or server installer? | 19:11 |
| Sayona_ | 24.04.1 LTS is with the problem, and in the past I had 22.04, both of them Desktop | 19:12 |
| tomreyn | the desktop installer was rewritten not long ago, i think it was first used between 22.04 and 24.04 | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | so maybe the rewrite lacks support for this | 19:13 |
| Sayona_ | :( | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | maybe there's a bug report here https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer/issues or here https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-provision/issues | 19:17 |
| Sayona_ | I will check, thanks tomreyn | 19:17 |
| ravage | if you want to report bugs i think they want those on launchpad | 19:17 |
| ravage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-provision | 19:17 |
| Sayona_ | are a lot of bugs there :) | 19:18 |
| phrack_extractor | Does ubuntu have a linux kernel archive such as arch? https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/l/linux/ | 19:34 |
| tomreyn | that's a package archive for what i can tell. ubuntu has package archives as well | 19:35 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: for what purpose? What exactly are you trying to accomplish? | 19:35 |
| phrack_extractor | I want some old linux kernel versions to do some tests with | 19:36 |
| * leftyfb sigh | 19:36 | |
| leftyfb | this again | 19:36 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: apt download <package name> | 19:37 |
| leftyfb | that will download packages | 19:37 |
| sarnold | phrack_extractor: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/ | 19:37 |
| phrack_extractor | leftyfb I still need to get a vmlinuz/vmlinux and I don't know which package contains that. | 19:38 |
| leftyfb | heh, nice firehose you got there sarnold :) | 19:38 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: as has been explained to you countless times, the vmlinuz file is the kernel as part of the kernel package you install | 19:38 |
| sarnold | leftyfb: yeah, I wonder how large the directory listing is, lol | 19:38 |
| sarnold | phrack_extractor: dpkg -S and apt-file are awesome | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: download the kernel package you want and extract it from there | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: btw, I don't think any Ubuntu flavor uses uncompressed kernels (vmlinux) | 19:39 |
| phrack_extractor | leftyfb whatever works as an arg to qemu's -kernel cmdline parameter is fine, compressed or not | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: good luck | 19:41 |
| phrack_extractor | sarnold i know about apt-file, but some archives store it renamed | 19:43 |
| phrack_extractor | leftyfb I got vmlinuz-linux from arch archives to work with -kernel to qemu yesterday and solved the problem for versions of the linux kernel 4.20 up | 19:45 |
| leftyfb | great, that has nothing to do with ubuntu | 19:45 |
| grimgrim | soup | 19:46 |
| phrack_extractor | so it is exchangeable, sorry about my stubbornness. one of the vmlinuz that I tried gave me an error trying to pass an initrd qemu arg so I didn't know that that was just that one vmlinuz file | 19:47 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: ask in #ubuntu-kernel | 19:47 |
| phrack_extractor | so I thought, yeah they might be exchangeable technically, but if I have to set up boot parameters and everything as though bootstrapping it manually then I'm going to die because that's too slow | 19:49 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: you've already pointed out you're not doing any of this on a supported release of ubuntu. | 19:49 |
| phrack_extractor | leftyfb so, I'm sorry I was stubborn with the cmdline option | 19:49 |
| phrack_extractor | leftyfb I'm only downloading the linux image from arch, its just a mirror. I'm running a flavor of ubuntu | 19:50 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: it's a highly modified, incomplete version of ubuntu | 19:51 |
| phrack_extractor | leftyfb what is? | 19:51 |
| phrack_extractor | what I'm running? | 19:51 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: you pointed out yesterday that your VM's are not the full ubuntu OS, just the kernel | 19:52 |
| phrack_extractor | Yes but I'm hosting on ubuntu | 19:53 |
| leftyfb | you're issue isn't with your host | 19:53 |
| leftyfb | your issue is with the VM which isn't ubuntu | 19:53 |
| leftyfb | that's like asking why the screensaver doesn't work on your Windows VM, hosted on ubuntu | 19:54 |
| leftyfb | phrack_extractor: please direct all further support questions for this project to #ubuntu-kernel, #qemu or #linux | 19:55 |
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| morgan-u | When the gui information-box for Software comes up it sits BEHIND chrome and also (somehow makes things slower or more difficult. I suggest it show up IN FRONT of chrome and have some notification up top as well. , more than a symbol on the panel.. - It's just a thought. | 21:09 |
| bprompt | morgan-u: that'd be up to the window manager used, AFAIK, your window manager is using that, is all, don't like it, change it maybe? | 21:12 |
| JanC | it's preventing pop-ups from stealing focus while you are working on another window | 21:23 |
| JanC | otherwise whatever you were typing & expected to go to whatever application you were using might end up going to the Software popup and accidentally activate buttons that way | 21:26 |
| luna_3 | bprompt I have the standard ubuntu wondow manager. I am suggesting this for standard ubuntu. I would have no idea of how to change that in the window manager of even if that is possible. I have no idea how mny if any other window managers are bell-behaved outside of the standard one nor if any of them have that capability or do it on the natch. I dont even know how to call the ability I am looking for. - Perhaps I am being sent on a | 21:39 |
| luna_3 | "wild goose chase" in a world in which all the geese have been domesticated just to "get rid of some beginner who is using the gui, Bless his or her heart! | 21:39 |
| luna_3 | bprompt, I have no idea how to call that ability nor how to find it or change it. I am using the built-in, standard ubuntu fare. My suggestion is that it functions badly by hiding an important prompt and should be changed for everyboy. -- In case I was not clear, Tha't's what I was saying. | 21:41 |
| bprompt | luna_3: well, I use Kwin as the manager, I can set "window rules" on how to treat any window, main, dialog, helper | 21:42 |
| bprompt | luna_3: I set a window rule a few minutes ago, needed the window at a certain size and position and opacity when opened, don't want to do it everytime | 21:43 |
| luna_3 | Oh this seems like a basic system as presented to 'users to use' flaw. bprompt nd that's the gist of my suggestion that it be changed. -- A matter of window ordering. | 21:44 |
| JanC | see my explanation above why (most likely) it didn't open over Chromium | 21:44 |
| JanC | or whatever application you are using | 21:45 |
| luna_3 | re bprompt> luna_3: I set a window rule a few minutes ago, needed the window at a certain size and position and opacity when opened, don't want to do it everytime --- This has nothing at all to do with what I was referring to. | 21:45 |
| luna_3 | oh maybe that wasnt to me, just two window issues from different folks | 21:45 |
| bprompt | luna_3: you're specifically referring about a desktop manager and window manager then, the default presented could be better, well ok, I was just saying, there are choices :) | 21:48 |
| === rahul is now known as doof91950 | ||
| luna_3 | bpi WAS ACTUALLY REFERRING TO THE SOFTWARE UPDATER. bprompt who is no longer around and so forget it. I have another question in case anyone knows. | 23:54 |
| luna_3 | Question how do i ask a question about the ddg browser and if it shares tabs between devices. Actually does any browser share tabs between my ubuntu desktop and my iphone?? | 23:55 |
| enigma9o7 | I think firefox can do that. Probably chrome too. | 23:56 |
| enigma9o7 | perhaps any browser that uses firefox sync? I know a few others do besides firefox. Still just guessing tho. | 23:57 |
| leftyfb | chrome can see/open tabs from other devices | 23:57 |
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