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mybalzitchgoddamn penn state.00:12
Codex7have ubuntu iso in D: and await instruction to install without usb?00:19
bpromptCodex7: come again?   why not usb?00:20
Codex7im not where I can get one to format00:20
bpromptCodex7: you can do a "raw write" of the ISO to a usb stick, and that'll make it bootable00:23
Codex7I just dont have a usb stick rite now00:24
enigma9o7it's okay, just use DVD-R00:28
bpromptCodex7: are  you on a windows machine?00:30
Codex7yes00:30
Codex7I see where askubuntu shows install use gparted.. copy iso to partition reboot pressing f12 select uefi partition, proceed to install ubuntu00:31
bpromptCodex7: https://askubuntu.com/questions/25668/can-you-install-ubuntu-from-the-hard-disk#answer-25729    <----00:32
Codex7why cant i just mount the iso?00:32
Codex7thanks00:34
oerheksone can install from iso, only when grub2 is already installed00:51
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Codex7Bashing-om, it is Me.. MrSteve.. you send me e-mails on the list01:38
Bashing-omCodex7: How may I be of service ? - only vaugly recall MrSteve.01:43
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cuervola01:57
gryhello cuervo01:58
cuervoHello gry01:58
Codex7ohh, Bashing-om, no problem. Just here. Said Hello. Thank you..02:04
fdan98 when i run this command - /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor. it says ls: cannot access '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor': No such file or directory. the cpu Model name is  is AMD EPYC 9354 32-Core Processor and Model is 1703:56
enigma9o7That is really weird, did you somehow link that to ls?04:06
enigma9o7plus with the wildcard in there.... that's some crazy stuff you got going on fdan9804:06
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devslashthats wrong04:07
enigma9o7It really shouldn't be executable, i thought /sys/devices stuff could never be exectuable04:07
enigma9o7i mean thats just a place to store the governor, no?  mine is ondemand04:07
devslashfdan if you do ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/ do you have any directories that begin with cpu ?04:09
enigma9o7doh, of course they do, you gotta have at least cpu0 or your computer wouldn't be usable04:09
devslashi dont in that location04:09
devslashin /sys/devices/system/cpu/ I do not have any  subdirectories that begin with cpu04:10
enigma9o7I always thought cpu was one mandatory piece of hardware.  Some stuff optional, but gotta have a cpu.04:11
devslashthat doesnt mean that theres a cpu directory in that location04:12
devslashim on 24.04 and do not have any cpu* directories in that location04:15
devslashand yea I do have a CPU.....04:15
devslashthis iswhy you guys have that directory and I dont: https://documentation.ubuntu.com/server/explanation/performance/perf-tune-cpupower/04:17
enigma9o7nah i don't have cpupower installed, as I've just left governor at whatever default ubuntu set04:19
enigma9o7oh wait, i do have linux-tools-common installed, that's where that command is04:20
enigma9o7but i'v enever used it04:20
devslashright that was the point I was trying to make04:21
enigma9o7Seems unlikely tho.  Those are system devices.  Part of the cpu.  Not installed by software.04:21
devslashif you try to run cpupower it will probably tell you that you need to install a few packages to enable it in the kernel04:22
devslashhow much you wanna bet that if you do, it will create those directories in /sys/devices/cpu04:22
enigma9o7one million us dollars04:24
bark_hello. I made a 2nd user which signs in automagically. I never get a chance to sign into my old account. when I look on the upper panel, logout/power off ... gives me no way to get into my account.  I was smart enough to drop into recovery and reset the password to the new account bu to dumb to know what to do to get into my old one. HELP PLEASE.04:54
bark_its me04:55
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morgan-barkit's me04:55
devslashok04:55
enigma9o7If you logout, why can you not login as the other user?04:56
devslashso you want to reset the account password right ?04:56
devslashhe enabled AUTOlogin04:56
morgan-barkno I reset the pass word. I was smart eoung...04:56
enigma9o7Yes, but when you logout, it doesnt' re log you back in.04:56
enigma9o7Autologin only happens on boot.04:56
enigma9o7bark, please answer, why can you not just logout and then login as the other user?  What happens when you try?04:57
enigma9o7Alternatively, you could just disable autologin of course....04:57
morgan-barkok now I get the choice. after I autologged in I didnt get that choice.  but this time it dropped to password-please, I could do that and NOW I get the choice.  How confusing. I have no more problems04:58
enigma9o7What choice are you talking about?   anyways seems you left, whatever.04:59
fdan9devslash: any way to enable it in the kernl to allow us to set the cpu frequency05:02
PSciCodeliXHAthello folks...05:06
fdan9does any one know why i cannot access this file `ls: cannot access '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor': No such file or directory`?05:08
devslashyou never answered my previous question05:11
devslashwhat do you see if you do ls /sys/devices/system/cpu05:12
enigma9o7fdan9: because of the wildcard05:12
enigma9o7you need to pick a specific cpu, try cpu0 as everyone shoul dhave that05:12
enigma9o7Take a look in /sys/devices/system/cpu and see fdan05:13
enigma9o7as devslash has asked youa bout a couple times05:14
enigma9o7I don't think ls will accept wildcards in the path like that is why....05:14
devslashyea remember when i said thats wrong05:15
devslashthats what I think asumming he has those directories which he hasnt confirmed yet05:15
fdan9devslash: https://dpaste.org/WVvv105:27
enigma9o7holy fuck that' sa lot of cores05:41
fdan9yes its a production server05:44
enigma9o7I'd never paid attention to this governor stuff before, its kinda intersting to watch, I se emy cpu goes down to 931Mhz but instantly goes up when it needs it, even going 2167Mhz which is in the turbo range of my 1.6Ghz cpu....06:01
pppingmeenigma9o7 64 cores is nothing, I work with a p10 system that has 240 cores..  cool thing about the p10 is each core supports up to 8 threads (puts x86 hyperthreading to shame)06:05
fdan9anyone knows how to fix my problem06:05
enigma9o7It just surprised me, its usually home users and hobbyists in these kinda channels on irc, so I've never seen anything like that... 8, sure.  even 16.  I mean what is on i7 these days?   So it must be some super server cpu i know nothing about, etc.  Or multiple cpus in one motherboard?06:06
enigma9o7fdan9, what is the problem now?06:06
fdan9I want to run echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor06:07
fdan9however it says ls: cannot access '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/06:07
enigma9o7or then, etc, i just scrolled back, don't see you describe any problem?06:07
enigma9o7right, and as mentioned, you cannot use wildcard there!06:08
pppingmecan't ls with an asterisk in the middle06:08
enigma9o7use the actual number.   As you saw, you have cpu0 to cpu6306:08
enigma9o7I suggested earlier testing with cpu0, did you ever try that?06:08
fdan9ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor06:08
fdan9ls: cannot access '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor': No such file or directory06:08
enigma9o7before we knew how many you had, since everyone has a cpu006:08
pppingmestep it out..  ls /sys/  great, ls /sys/devices/ great, ls /sys/devices/system/  great..  keep going, where's it break?06:09
enigma9o7Intersting.  I have a scaling_governor in there.  What do you have in your cpufreq folder?06:09
fdan9pppingme - https://dpaste.org/ZdxLq06:10
fdan9enigma9o7 cd: cpufreq: No such file or directory06:11
pppingmefdan9: ok, keep stepping through the path, I didn't mean for you to stop at /sys/devices/system/06:11
fdan9pppingme https://dpaste.org/gNped06:12
pppingmeI don't see /cpufreq/ which would imply for your architecture it doesn't exist or the kernel is having some weird issue with it06:14
pppingmelooks more like your path is wrong..  cpufreq is under cpu, not under each individual cpu..06:15
fdan9i dont see any files inside this directory06:16
enigma9o7not /cpufreq, sheesh, its /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/06:19
pppingmenot all entries apply to all archetectures..  what are you trying to do?06:19
enigma9o7but anyways if they're not in that directory, that explains why ls says they're not there.06:19
fdan9trying to set this06:19
fdan9echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor06:19
fdan9enigma9o706:20
fdan9$ ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/06:20
fdan9ls: cannot access '/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/': No such file or directory06:20
fdan9what needs to be done to set the scaling_governor to performance06:20
enigma9o7seriously if you are not familiar with directory structure should go read how it owrks.06:20
pppingmeenter this command:   find /sys/ | grep scaling_governor06:21
fdan9no output06:21
pppingmethen your cpu doesn't support it06:21
fdan9pppingme is there a way to load the cpufreq and get the cpu to support it?06:22
pppingmeenter this command:   find /sys/ | grep default_governor06:23
enigma9o7What kinda cpu is it, I'm curious, especially cuz of all the cores, I dunno models with taht.06:23
enigma9o7if its not intel/amd then maybe its just not the kinda thing other arches do06:23
pppingmeyou run that 2nd command?  I'm susptecting you'll get one line back06:25
* pppingme thinks we lost fdan9 06:27
fdan9im here06:27
fdan9sorry06:27
fdan9AMD EPYC 9354 32-Core Processor is the Model name06:27
pppingmeenter this command:   find /sys/ | grep default_governor06:28
fdan9pppingme: /sys/module/cpufreq/parameters/default_governor06:28
pppingmeok, cat that06:28
pppingmecat /sys/module/cpufreq/paramaters/default_governor06:29
pppingmeI'm betting it says performance06:29
pppingmefdan9: what does it say?06:36
fdan9schedutil06:38
pppingmedo you have the cpupower binary installed?06:42
fdan9no i dont06:42
pppingmeit should be in the kernel-tools package, install that then run:06:45
pppingmecpupower frequency-set g poerformance06:45
pppingmecpupower frequency-set g performance06:45
morgan-hpI did lshw but I dont know how to tell if this HP coumputer can do 1080p?06:47
fdan9pppingme: E: Unable to locate package kernel-tools06:47
pppingmeI don't remember which package its in, you'll probably have to search06:48
morgan-hpplease use my nick when you answer. (I am so dull I doint know how to search is less so I had to use pine.. OMG pine.06:48
morgan-hpit has vga and HDMI.06:50
pppingmemorgan-hp: pastebin the whole display section of that command06:51
pppingmeif its got an hdmi port, I'd be shocked if it can't do 108006:52
fdan9pppingme https://dpaste.org/pHshh07:03
pppingmetry modprobe cpufreq_userspace07:10
pppingmethen try to set it again07:10
fdan9doesnt display anything07:10
fdan9is this the right command? cpupower frequency-set -g performance07:10
pppingmeyeah, I forgot the - before the g, you got it right..  -g sets the governor you want07:11
fdan9pppingme - https://dpaste.org/9YSsW07:11
fdan9https://dpaste.org/c6HGW07:12
pppingmeif nothing displayed, then cat /sys/module/cpufreq/paramaters/default_governor07:12
fdan9cat: /sys/module/cpufreq/paramaters/default_governor: No such file or directory07:12
pppingmesame command you did earlier, you said it reported "schedutil"07:13
fdan9cat /sys/module/cpufreq/parameters/default_governor07:19
fdan9schedutil07:19
pppingmeyou can try to set it by hand, echo performance > /sys/module/......07:20
pppingmenot sure that will work though07:20
fdan9https://dpaste.org/ALFoU07:22
pppingmeyou may have to ask in #kernel then..  What is your ultimate goal? I'm not sure you'll see any significant difference as long as you aren't in any powersave modes07:24
fdan9set the governor to performance07:35
pppingmefdan9: no, setting it to performance is what you think the fix is, whats the ultimate problem you're trying to solve?07:50
fdan9we have a 100's of machines already using that setting, i just want all the remaining hosts to be consistent07:50
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sumwutclulzany1 uses dell xps 9560 with ubuntu and find 4k@60hz and bluetooth support finicky?08:27
TomyWorkwow, "The PackageKit daemon has crashed", while "Preparing to unpack .../52-packagekit_1.2.5-2ubuntu3_amd64.deb ..."08:44
TomyWorkyou had one job08:44
TomyWorkand it crashed again with the same error after "dpkg --configure -a" the second attempt. 22.04 btw. I had to manually "apt install packagekit" to make it work. this is not end-user compatible08:50
TomyWorks/the second/and a second/08:51
TomyWorkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagekit/+bug/2091902 it's this bug08:52
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2091902 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "packagekit wants to update but cant because it's upposedly not installed" [Undecided, Confirmed]08:52
Guest2507Which is the best music Software for Ubuntu?09:00
centrixI was resolving a problem with stuck mutt after receiving "Ready to serve TLS" yesterday.09:05
centrixI re-checked and there is exim4 running at the host as a MTA.09:05
centrixI compared it to Deb12 and I remember I di NOT have to set anything at the exim4 level, still mutt works using the same mutrc as I do not at my ubuntu box.09:06
centrixI did NOT configure exim4 at my ubuntu box either. Left it to whatever came after install.09:07
centrixStill, mutt gets stuck at ubuntu while it sends mail at Deb12.09:08
centrixI do not know where to look else to debug.09:08
centrixAny hints, please?09:08
centrixIn my .muttdebug0 I see no second EHLO command sent by my client after the mail host sends Ready to server TLS.09:11
centrixI can see that at Deb, though.09:11
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kezeleihello10:03
renergyhow to disconnect from wi-fi network in graphical interface? (ubuntu/gnome/network manager)10:20
renergyI want to only disconnect from a network, not forget it10:20
renergyclicking on already connected network only causes reconnect10:20
renergyfinal state I want to achieve: wi-fi on, not connected to any network, and the network's setup I have already done saved and ready to use10:22
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Bored-Nowhi ubuntu team11:37
Bored-Nowskraito here11:37
Bored-Nowhow are you all11:37
Bored-Nowi am bored for now so i have time to chat11:38
Bored-NowKid trust ubuntu too11:38
Bored-Nowthat's old code that keep on crash11:38
Bored-NowOur [ 0day (xc) Our ] code won't crash11:38
Bored-Nowbut check first what's the update and11:38
Bored-Nowjust list the update before you install11:39
Bored-Nowjust man apt11:39
Bored-Nowgrandpa forget11:39
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Bored-Nowi know this ubuntu Kid , try windows too11:46
Bored-Nowbladeandsoul is almost We release11:46
Bored-Nowso if you can make that game work ubuntu11:47
Bored-Nowdefinitely ubuntu will sell well ... .11:47
Bored-Nowsee ya all11:47
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BluesKajHi all12:59
voloveythi13:05
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itaihi, is there a way of running the command 'aspell -c <filename>' on .odt files?15:54
leftyfbitai: aspell only works on plain text files15:55
leftyfbyou would have to convert the odt file to plain text, spellcheck it and then convert it back15:56
leftyfbor just use the spellcheck built into libreoffice15:56
itaileftyfb: thank you. I thought so.15:56
itaiI will do that15:56
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fdanwhere can i see the logs of this channel?16:34
oerheks!logs16:35
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/16:35
fdanwow its logged since 2004?16:36
oerheksjups16:37
fdanwhen i run16:40
fdanls /home/16:40
fdanbootstrap linuxbrew ml16:40
fdani see these user accounts. any idea how this gets created?16:40
oerheksby adding a user? i have only one16:42
tomreyngetent passwd    should list existing users and their homes16:42
tomreynif those are missing there, then those are probably leftover directories of previously removed system users16:43
tomreynbut we could only guess16:43
fdani am not sure if anyone added it16:43
fdandoes it come with any packages?16:43
tomreynwhat is "it"?16:43
tomreynno debian package would create directories under /home16:44
fdantomreyn: how can i see if they can still ssh to user host16:45
moo3fdan: grep -e bootstrap -e linuxbrew -e ml /etc/passwd16:49
tomreynfdan: "getent passwd" will return the effective list of available user accounts, those with an active shell may be able to ssh in, depending on ssh configuration.16:52
Guest69420is there a way to support Open Sound System in pulseaudio?  i'm trying to run an old arcade emulator but it says "Error accessing sound card: sound will be disabled - /dev/dsp: no such file"16:54
tomreynfdan: the username is provided in the first, their shell in the last field; ":" is used as a field separator. those are linux (server) administration basics. but i don't know which kind of system / installation / context you're dealing with16:56
fdantomreyn - when i do cd /home/ml/.ssh/authorized_keys -  i can see the pub keys - does it mean the ml user can ssh to the box?16:56
tomreynnot neccessarily. does the ml user have an active shell?16:57
tomreyndoes the user even exist?16:57
fdanml:x:1000:1000:Massed Compute:/home/ml:/bin/bash16:58
tomreynnow i don't know what this is the output of, but if this is produced as i suggested above, then it is an existing system user with a valid shell16:58
tomreynwhich would enable them to login to the system if an sshd is running with a default configuration, and they have a password set or key stored in /home/ml/.ssh/authorized_keys16:59
fdanhow about the users like bootstrap and linuxbrew - they dont have any thing inside their $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys16:59
tomreyn(and the sshd service is reachable to them on the network)17:00
tomreyn$HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys is for ssh public key authentication. there are other ways to authenticate to sshd, including passwords.17:00
tomreynsudo getent shadow     will list password hashes of all system users. sshd will, in a default configuration, allow users (other than root) with a password to login17:01
tomreyn(authenticating with this password)17:02
tomreynthere are yet more authentication mechanisms sshd supports, but those two are the most common ones17:03
fdani just removed the public key in authorized_keys - i hope this is fine17:04
tomreyni wouldn't be able to tell. we have no clue what this system is orr how it's meant to be used, and by whom.17:04
tomreynis it even running ubuntu, and a supported version of it? other systems may bahave differently than what i discussed above.17:05
tomreyn*behave17:05
tomreyngenerally, if you "happen to find" user accounts on some system, which has been reachable from the internet, and you don't know what theye accounts are about but they seem to have been active for a while, then you should pretty surely not trust this system and set it up from scratch.17:08
tomreynthe same would apply if it was not exposed to th einternet but to a different network accessible to users which are not entirely, or no longer entirely, fully trusted.17:09
fdanon the ubuntu 22.04 - i removed the pub keys for some users under their $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys - any other access do they have?17:19
oerheksmaybe the ssh password, unless you set it strict to keys only17:20
fdanhow do i check that17:22
oerhekssshd_config ?17:23
fdanwhat is the keyword to search for?17:24
oerheksPasswordAuthentication no17:25
oerhekstake a read in the wiki17:25
oerheks!ssh17:26
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)17:26
oerheksor better17:26
oerheks!sshd17:26
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)17:26
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morhookultra useful ubottu!20:21
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morhook!ssh20:21
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)20:21
morhook!scp20:21
ubottuscp is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/20:21
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oerheksuse ubottu in PM please20:22
oerheksand have fun20:22
gordonjcpmorhook: see if you can get a high score on it20:23
webchat95Good afternoon - I've never filed a bug report for Ubuntu, but I'm trying to debug something in 22.04 for the raspberry Pi. After following exact steps that worked on 22.04, I'm finding that in 24.04 there is not /dev/smi created.20:27
webchat95the smi interface is critical for this - i'd like to point out the same steps performed also on Pi OS Bookworm also produces as /dev/smi interface20:28
webchat95https://github.com/cariboulabs/cariboulite20:28
webchat95Is this a good channel for this type of discussion?20:28
pragmaticenigmawebchat95: I would recommend that you use the same OS as the instructions.20:31
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morhooki was blocked for 10 minutes on ubottu on PMs. he said 5 errors was too much22:38
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