/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/02/#kubuntu.txt

naelr	I have a toshiba with atheros and it works outta the box.. this one doesn't	00:00
tekteen	WaltzingAlong: I need the install cd to download and use it	00:00
naelr	but your getting me away from my problem	00:00
tekteen	WaltzingAlong:I have to install on a massive amount of computers	00:00
Hizzle	whats the best irc program for linux right now in windows I use mirc?	00:01
naelr	I have 3 kernels on this laptop	00:01
tekteen	I need a way to automate everything	00:01
Dr_willis	Hizzle, i use Xchat under windows and linux.	00:01
WaltzingAlong	!backup	00:01
ubotu	There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	00:01
tekteen	and ran out of room on the cd :-)	00:01
WaltzingAlong	!cloning \| tekteen	00:01
ubotu	tekteen: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate	00:01
tekteen	thanks	00:01
tekteen	I will look into it	00:02
naelr	version 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working	00:03
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Hizzle	Dr_willis: which linux do you use?	00:03
coreymon77	naelr: give me a sec	00:03
naelr	might I need to recomplie ndiswrapper	00:03
naelr	coreymon77: i have been working with this thing for about 2 weeks now... ndiswrapper is only way to get this card working ..	00:03
Dr_willis	Hizzle, using Kubuntu 7.10 at the moment	00:03
WaltzingAlong	!ndiswrapper \| naelr, could grab the latest	00:03
ubotu	naelr, could grab the latest: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	00:03
Hizzle	Oh ok thats what I am about to install onto my laptop	00:04
coreymon	naelr: take a look at this	00:04
coreymon	http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dtvgpkz_46fv8dwf	00:04
naelr	here is the kernel I am running	00:04
naelr	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers	00:04
naelr	reading corymon	00:05
naelr	corymon I have it working...	00:05
coreymon77	huh?	00:05
naelr	you got me away from my question arguing about ndiswrapper and atheros	00:05
naelr	version 2.6.20-12 will boot sometimes but sound does not work... 2.6.22-14 will not boot and I have a kernel called zen3-ubuntu 2.6.24-rc3 which boots and sound works but ndiswrapper stops working	00:06
coreymon77	oh	00:06
naelr	my 3 kernels	00:06
coreymon77	no clue then	00:06
naelr	might I need to recomplie ndiswrapper for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623874&highlight=kernel+headers kernel	00:06
coreymon77	oh	00:07
coreymon77	dunno then	00:07
WaltzingAlong	naelr: building ndiswrapper is not all that difficult	00:07
naelr	WaltzingAlong: I don't wanna rebuild it if it isn't even going to work...	00:08
smooker	does ubuntu 7.10 have integrated wine ?	00:08
WaltzingAlong	make uninstall; make; make install, about it	00:08
smooker	or some other emu >	00:08
smooker	?	00:08
WaltzingAlong	smooker: no	00:08
WaltzingAlong	though you can install it of course	00:08
naelr	it was installed as a deb package... ...	00:09
smooker	does the popular games run fine ? :P	00:09
naelr	here is an oder version of my card... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/AR5006EG?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29	00:09
naelr	*older	00:09
WaltzingAlong	smooker: WoW? sure	00:09
smooker	yeah :)	00:10
smooker	can i view NTFS file systems with Kubuntu ?	00:17
WaltzingAlong	smooker: yes and write too	00:18
mehrez	hi	00:19
WaltzingAlong	mehrez: greetings	00:20
Doctor_Nick	how do i check what packages I installed last?	00:20
coreymon77	yallo	00:20
mehrez	i want to kow if there's a solution to ugrade from kubuntu 6.10 to kubuntu 7 with the instalation CD of Kubuntu 7	00:20
coreymon77	you dont need the cd	00:21
WaltzingAlong	mehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy	00:22
smooker	what was the cool program for Kubuntu with the cool visual efects ?	00:23
WaltzingAlong	!compiz \| smooker	00:24
ubotu	smooker: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	00:24
smooker	10x	00:24
Doctor_Nick	how do i check what packages I installed last?	00:26
WaltzingAlong	Doctor_Nick: memory. or when that fails, the list you made of which packages you installed and when.	00:26
WaltzingAlong	otherwise, i do not know of a way	00:27
gabriel_	how do i do a release / renew of my ip adress?	00:27
ardchoille	Doctor_Nick: If you used command line to install them, then open a terminal and do: history \| grep install	00:27
WaltzingAlong	gabriel_: dhclient ethx	00:28
Doctor_Nick	but I dont know what dependencies it might have installed	00:28
gabriel_	not just a renew, i need release as well i think, so i really get a different IP address	00:29
ardchoille	Doctor_Nick: Did you use apt-get or aptitude ?	00:29
Doctor_Nick	apt-get	00:29
ardchoille	Doctor_Nick: You might have a look in /var/log/apt	00:30
Doctor_Nick	thanks	00:30
ardchoille	yw	00:30
WaltzingAlong	gabriel_: even so, the dhcp server likely gives the same as the lease has not yet expired	00:30
smooker	after i install compiz	00:31
smooker	how i can get to the configuration ?	00:31
smooker	and where is it located ?	00:32
WaltzingAlong	smooker: kmenu/settings/advanced desktop effects settings	00:32
Dr_willis	!ccsm	00:32
ubotu	To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion	00:32
mehrez	<WaltzingAlong> mehrez: usually suggested to dist-upgrade one release at a time. edgy->feisty feisty->gutsy	00:32
mehrez	i can't understund well!	00:32
ardchoille	mehrez: are you wanting to upgrade?	00:33
firec	How do I find out which release of *buntu a machine is running from the CLI?	00:35
ardchoille	firec: lsb_release -a	00:36
ardchoille	firec: or: lsb_release -a \| grep Release	00:36
firec	Thanks	00:36
ardchoille	yw	00:36
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gabriel_	WaltzingAlong: it gives me a different one in windows when i do release renew, usually.	00:37
gabriel_	WaltzingAlong: that's why i want those two operations in linux...	00:38
WaltzingAlong	gabriel_: ifconfig ethx down; ifconfig ethx up	00:39
smooker	omg compiz just rox	00:39
smooker	:D	00:39
WaltzingAlong	gabriel_: or sudo dhcpcd -k	00:39
gabriel_	WaltzingAlong: are you SURE that those two correspond to release / renew in windows?	00:41
WaltzingAlong	to release the address the command should return the the dhcp release to the dhcp server which bringing down and up the device will not do	00:42
gabriel_	for instance, ifconfig down, doesn't that only affect my machines status, and not the dhcp server? and same thing with up?	00:42
gabriel_	WaltzingAlong: well then. then ifconfig cannot do what i ask...	00:42
WaltzingAlong	mostly you should search the manuals	00:43
WaltzingAlong	and a quick search of the web thanks to google	00:43
trillis	I got pidgin!	00:43
tyfon	sudo ifdown ethX and sudo ifup ethX	00:43
gabriel_	yeah i'm searching as well	00:43
WaltzingAlong	then you would come across the dhclient command which will issue the dhcp release when passed the -r	00:43
coreymon77	trillis: yay	00:43
trillis	I kinda did.	00:43
trillis	It's an rpm file..	00:43
coreymon77	...	00:44
coreymon77	why not just go to www.getdeb.net	00:44
coreymon77	trillis: and get it as a deb	00:44
* trillis feels stuped		00:44
crimsun	...because getdeb.net is /not/ a vetted repo.	00:44
coreymon77	okay then	00:45
gabriel_	WaltzingAlong: thanks	00:45
coreymon77	is it on apt for feisty	00:45
crimsun	it is a third-party repo, but to recommend it without at least appending a significant caveat is foolish.	00:45
WaltzingAlong	gabriel_: cheers	00:45
trillis	How do I find it on that site?	00:45
coreymon77	crimsun: i meant go to the site and get the one file	00:46
coreymon77	crimsun: not add it as a repo	00:46
trillis	I tried the search funtion and got: Distro id not found	00:46
crimsun	coreymon77: makes no difference.	00:46
coreymon77	crimsun: its on the main page	00:46
coreymon77	trillis: that was meant for you	00:46
coreymon77	crimsun: well then what do you suggest	00:46
coreymon77	alien?	00:46
crimsun	...no.	00:47
crimsun	work on updating the current source package accordingly.	00:47
coreymon77	meh?	00:47
gabriel_	WaltzingAlong: "There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134519120" it says...	00:48
coreymon77	crimsun: how do you suggest getting it for feisty?	00:49
WaltzingAlong	man dhclient \| gabriel_	00:49
crimsun	coreymon77: what I said above, and then requesting a backport to feisty once 2.3.0 is vetted into hardy.	00:50
gabriel_	yeah already on it :)	00:50
trillis	I don't see it on the main page...	00:50
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WaltzingAlong	gabriel_: there is already the pid is not an error	00:51
coreymon77	crimsun: i doont get what you meant by above	00:51
Tarin	how do enable nvidia drivers?	00:52
Tarin	and install	00:52
crimsun	coreymon77: "update the hardy source package to 2.3.0 - by merging and updating the Ubuntuised source package - and once that source package is accepted into hardy, request a backport to feisty"	00:52
coreymon77	and how do i do that?	00:52
ardchoille	!nvidia \| Tarin	00:53
ubotu	Tarin: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	00:53
coreymon77	crimsun: and what does trillis do in the mean time	00:53
gabriel_	WaltzingAlong: but how come i didn't loose my internet connection then?	00:54
crimsun	coreymon77: whatever s/he wants	00:54
coreymon77	crimsun: as in, not get pidgin?	00:54
crimsun	coreymon77: I am recommending the vetted protocol as someone who has upload privileges.	00:54
dwsdad	hello	00:54
trillis	I can't find it...	00:54
trillis	:(	00:54
khatahn	hi, anyone happen to know if there is an ubuntu package of the latest Flash 9 release somewhere?	00:55
FireCrotch	Hi, dwsdad	00:55
dwsdad	Hi, Fire	00:55
WaltzingAlong	!flash \| khatahn	00:55
ubotu	khatahn: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	00:55
coreymon77	crimsun: englishplease	00:55
dwsdad	anyone have time for a smb4k question(s)?	00:55
crimsun	khatahn: we ship 9.0.48 in multiverse.	00:55
khatahn	WaltzingAlong: it's not the latest	00:55
trillis	Google found it for me <3...	00:55
crimsun	(or rather, we ship a script that grabs 9.0.48)	00:55
khatahn	crimsun: yeah, it's just that i'm looking for the new fullscreen feature which is not supported on that version	00:56
crimsun	coreymon77: I have a responsibility to recommend "proper" procedure for getting newer versions of software.	00:56
crimsun	khatahn: there is no newer stable version.	00:56
FireCrotch	coreymon77: what crimsun is saying is that rather than using a .deb found on some third party site, an official version should be used	00:56
coreymon77	crimsun: im not talking about newer versions, im talking about getting it period	00:56
crimsun	coreymon77: getting it /period/ is moot; Ubuntu ships it in the main component.	00:57
coreymon77	crimsun: apparently t\cant find it on apt	00:57
FireCrotch	coreymon77: in fiesty it's called gaim	00:57
Marfi	whenever i close amarok, it unmounts the drive that its playing music from. how do i stop it from doing this?	00:58
khatahn	crimsun: but there's a release candidate. i was just wondering if someone knows an unofficial ubuntu package somewhere	00:58
coreymon77	trillis: you hear that? for feisty its gaim not pidgin	00:58
crimsun	khatahn: I don't know of one, but that certainly does not preclude its existence.	00:58
ardchoille	I thought trillis was on Futsy	00:58
ardchoille	*Gutsy	00:59
crimsun	khatahn: and I certainly don't recommend its usage, since it's broken IME.	00:59
coreymon77	trillis: im confused, which one are you on	00:59
ardchoille	trillis: Open a terminal and do: lsb_release -a	00:59
nosrednaekim	Marfi: #amarok..	01:00
khatahn	crimsun: i didn't really like it either when i installed it manually, just thought i'd give it another go	01:00
trillis	Sorry, brb.	01:00
Marfi	ty	01:01
Marfi	figured go here, since amarok is a KDE app. ;)	01:01
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WaltzingAlong	figured come to #kubuntu because #amarok is a #kde app?	01:01
WaltzingAlong	Marfi: amarok, devices on the left side bar, configure, then the command for unmounting? or not	01:03
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trillis	Well, I have the Pidgin deb file... For some reason it opened its self in Kate, and now I can't save it... Something about how saving it in Binary form will leave it currupted.	01:11
coreymon77	trillis: dont use the deb	01:12
trillis	...	01:12
coreymon77	trillis: are you on feisty or gutsy	01:12
trillis	You just said to use tit...	01:12
trillis	Kubuntu...	01:12
coreymon77	trillis: feisty or gutsy	01:12
trillis	Er, I think its gutsy...	01:13
FireCrotch	trillis: open a terminal and type lsb_release -a	01:13
FireCrotch	trillis: that will tell you for sure	01:14
coreymon	which one is it?	01:14
trillis	ubuntu	01:15
trillis	Dapper?	01:15
FireCrotch	trillis: it says "Codename: Dapper" ?	01:15
jobbe	you guys wouldn't know a repository that offers x.org 7.3 by any chance?	01:16
trillis	Yes.	01:16
coreymon	wow, youre not even on edgy	01:16
ardchoille	trillis: That's quite an old release, tho it's still supported.	01:16
ardchoille	!info gaim Dapper	01:16
ubotu	gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB	01:16
trillis	I want Pidgin though...	01:17
ardchoille	trillis: If you're planning to stick with Dapper and want to try pidgin, open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install gaim	01:17
ardchoille	trillis: gaim changed names to pidgin	01:18
coreymon	trillis: pidgin is gaim and gaim is pidgin	01:18
trillis	Yaay, it's working.	01:18
coreymon	trillis: they just changed their name to pidgin because of legal issue	01:18
coreymon	s	01:18
ardchoille	trillis: You threw us when you said you were on Gutsy	01:18
trillis	Aah, sorry.	01:18
* trillis is a nub		01:18
ardchoille	np	01:18
ardchoille	I remember Dapper being quite a solid release	01:19
Radi01	pidgin/gaim is cool.	01:19
trillis	Thanksa	01:21
trillis	THanks*	01:21
ardchoille	trillis: Enjoy	01:22
ardchoille	dthacker: What is the name that was decided on for the kubuntu news?	01:24
ardchoille	s/name/page/	01:24
Selanit	I'm having a weird problem with Firefox. Sometimes, but not reliably, I'll click a link, and the page will /appear/ to load but not really. That is, the URL in the address bar changes to the new address, the loading throbber runs for a while and then finishes, I get status updates - but the viewport still shows the previous page.	01:25
Selanit	I can make it display the page properly by resizing the window, but it's a serious pain in the butt.	01:26
Selanit	Anybody else have this problem?	01:26
neur1	is that the new firefox? (updated) because mine does that too	01:26
ardchoille	Selanit: Never seen that problem. I have ff installed, do you have a url for that?	01:27
Selanit	ardchoille: No, I don't have an URL. It's not limited to any one site. I've seen it happen with Google searches, my own web sites, my school web site, randomly. There's no apparent pattern.	01:28
neur1	sometimes it load a blank page and says it's done	01:28
Selanit	Mine's been doing it for at least three months	01:28
Radi01	did you clear your cache and error control?	01:29
Selanit	I've tried hard refreshes (CTRL + SHIFT + R ignores cache). What do you mean by error control, tho?	01:29
Radi01	undet tools	01:29
Radi01	r	01:29
Selanit	Eh?	01:29
Radi01	under tools	01:30
Selanit	Oh, the error CONSOLE, not the error control	01:30
Radi01	ya	01:30
Selanit	I hadn't thought to check there, but I'm not seeing anything	01:30
smooker	anyone know some other cool program like compiz ?	01:31
Selanit	I knew I should have made a screenshot. It's not doing it at the moment. I wish I could figure out some way of reliably reproducing the problem.	01:32
somekool	YO	01:38
somekool	is there a way to rerun the keyboard selection application from the install once kubuntu is installed?	01:39
Dr_willis	its proberly setting the default in ...(let me check)	01:39
smooker	how i termina application ?	01:39
smooker	terminate *	01:39
Dr_willis	/etc/console-setup/config - has some keyboard settings in there.	01:40
Dr_willis	smooker, depends. use xkill in a terminal, then click on the app you want to kill - is one way	01:40
smooker	haha its cool 10x :D	01:43
smooker	quite easy :D	01:43
Radi01	Ubuntu has an icon for that , dont know about kubuntu.	01:46
draik	I got an icon theme from kde-look.org. The icon images are 128x128. Even with the spcified 22, they have the spaces for 128x128	01:47
smooker	btw Kubuntu is on 4GB dvd how Ubuntu is only on 1 CD ?	01:48
smooker	:O	01:48
Dr_willis	smooker, look closer.. they both have cd and dvd versions	01:48
Dr_willis	and a live cd, and a alternative cd. version	01:49
smooker	is there way to download 5/4 cd's not dvd ?	01:49
Dr_willis	theres no need to download several cd's you wont gain much by using the dvd either.	01:50
Dr_willis	the dvd may have some extra packages.. but i think mainly its a live cd + the alternative installercd.	01:50
draik	Dr_willis: Sounds about right	01:50
Dr_willis	i dont think the dvd Installs any of the extra packages.	01:50
Dr_willis	and of course - it proberly wont have the updates.	01:51
ubuntu_is_awesom	the mouse cursor in 7.10 amd64 is invisble... on nvidia 5200, any help?	01:51
draik	For everyone here with DSL... What is the purpose to the filters the ISP gives you?	01:53
draik	They don't seem to make a difference	01:53
draik	Either way, connection drops when a phone call enters	01:53
Dr_willis	are you using the nvidia driver at this time? or the nv driver?	01:53
ubuntu_is_awesom	who is?	01:54
ubuntu_is_awesom	bah, ubuntu is shit	01:54
Radi01	Then you may have the filters in the wrong place?	01:54
Dr_willis	and its 'short attention span theater' today on #kubuntu	01:55
Dr_willis	:)	01:55
Radi01	That looked like a setup.	01:55
zibrah3ed	draik : Filters are there to "filter" any high pitch noise that the modem might make during phone calls	01:55
Radi01	If its a barrel filter make sure its not backwards.	01:56
draik_	Stupid DSL connection just gave me 200 s lag.	01:56
draik_	So what is the purpose of a DSL filter if it doesn't make a change?	01:56
draik_	DSL connection dies when a call enters.	01:57
draik_	:(	01:57
Radi01	Go back and look and see if they are installed right.	01:57
Radi01	and not backwards	01:57
Dr_willis	or sideways	01:57
Dr_willis	:)	01:57
Radi01	lol	01:57
zibrah3ed	Draik_: OPr installed on your modems line	01:59
draik_	We aren't using any at this time.	01:59
draik_	We took them off	02:00
Radi01	There is one that uses both phone and modem on same line.	02:00
draik_	DSL won't even give me 100KB/s downloads	02:00
draik_	I miss my $CABLE_ISP and the 300KB/s connections	02:00
Radi01	Somthing is draging the line/somewhere	02:00
Radi01	Who is the provider	02:00
draik_	Verizon	02:01
draik_	America's #1 blah blah blah	02:01
Radi01	lol	02:01
draik_	America's #1 piss off!	02:01
draik_	This makes me want to have High-Speed Dial-Up	02:01
Hizzle	I was wondering I am about to install kubuntu on laptop and replace vista, now for all the hardware like vid card, webcam, etc do I gotta individually get drivers for each one so they work with linux or how does that work?	02:02
draik_	Hizzle: You should be ready to go with the install	02:02
draik_	What is your video card?	02:02
Dr_willis	Hizzle, rarely. The video card and network cards (wireless) are progerly the only things you may need todownload stuff for to get full ussage	02:02
Dr_willis	Linux blows windows away in this area. :)	02:02
Radi01	Just rte-check everything/im sure youll find somthing/plus/you might mant to reset your modem from the (back).	02:03
draik_	Radi01: I've done that so many times. I've given that crappy modem/router amnesia by now	02:03
Radi01	hahaha	02:03
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Radi01	what about old wire?	02:03
draik_	That's probably the cause. It forgot what it is and what to do.	02:04
Hizzle	alright I just want everything to work fine I am in the military and I am gone alot and the laptop is my way of chattin with my wife	02:04
draik_	Hizzle: You should be ready to go from the start. I don't believe you will have any issues with the install and usage.	02:05
Radi01	Hizzle: you will be glad you did.	02:05
Hizzle	alright thanks	02:05
Hizzle	thats what I keep hearing	02:05
Radi01	I sent bill gates packing 1 yr ago.	02:06
draik_	To top it off, Verizon told my mom that DSL was going to be faster than the cable internet we currently had.	02:06
zibrah3ed	lol	02:06
Hizzle	hehehe thats funny	02:06
SpeS	hi	02:06
SpeS	I'm trying to connect with a rt2561 pci card, and I can't by now :(	02:06
draik_	Radi01: 6/1/6 was the last time I had windows as my main OS	02:07
Radi01	1.5 is ok..its what i have and i have 200 download connect.	02:07
SpeS	the module rt61pci is loaded	02:07
Minataku	Radi01: 3 years here	02:07
SpeS	but I can't configure the card...	02:07
SpeS	can't connect :(	02:07
Radi01	embarq.	02:07
smooker	3 years ?	02:07
smooker	o.o	02:08
SpeS	is it possible to use it with the system installed by default?	02:08
zibrah3ed	SpeS: Never had luck with the open source drivers have you tried ndiswrapper	02:08
Radi01	draik: could be a card at the hub: i had that problem with buffering till i made them change it.	02:08
SpeS	no, only trying with the rt61pci it brings	02:08
zibrah3ed	!ndiswrapper	02:09
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:09
CadaverPimp	I need to tell people to stop calling my house for the next few years	02:09
SpeS	zibrah3ed, I think there are official drivers from ralink	02:09
CadaverPimp	I get such a stupid lag when people call	02:09
SpeS	apart from free software ones	02:09
SpeS	ubotu, ok, thx	02:09
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:09
zibrah3ed	SpeS: I have a similar card and have never got them working, dhcp gives an error	02:09
SpeS	errrrr, a bot, ok... ^_^'	02:10
Radi01	ubotu smart	02:10
ubotu	smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager	02:10
Radi01	oops	02:10
heinkel_111	!flac	02:10
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	02:10
G-RegZ	hello all	02:10
Minataku	smooker: I stopped using Windows 3 years ago	02:10
Minataku	Over, actually	02:10
smooker	aww	02:11
smooker	u use kubuntu ?	02:11
Radi01	I cant stand windows now.	02:11
heinkel_111	which is recommended kubuntu program to rip audio cd to flac format now?	02:11
heinkel_111	kaudocreator?	02:11
zibrah3ed	no will all us PClinuxos	02:11
zibrah3ed	we just like to talk	02:11
SpeS	zibrah3ed, so you got it right with ndiswrapper?	02:11
zibrah3ed	Spes: Yeah	02:11
Radi01	Imagine all the money these software people made giving out garbage.	02:12
SpeS	I've never tryed that	02:12
zibrah3ed	Spes: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper	02:12
SpeS	zibrah3ed, I've got no inet	02:12
SpeS	...	02:12
smooker	wow wait what soft ?	02:12
zibrah3ed	Spes: Find windows driver and " sudo ndiswrapper -l *.inf"	02:12
Minataku	smooker: I started with SuSE	02:12
smooker	what you use now ?	02:12
Minataku	Then transitioned to Gentoo where I've been since	02:12
Radi01	How did you like suse	02:13
zibrah3ed	Spes: Ndiswrapper is included, but not installed by default on the livecd	02:13
Minataku	It was good back then	02:13
smooker	and now u use.. ?	02:13
SpeS	I'll try it then if I don't advance with this one... thanks	02:13
Minataku	smooker: I told you Gentoo	02:13
SpeS	ahm good	02:13
Radi01	I started with mandrake/got tired of reinstalling 1nce a week.	02:13
smooker	aw sry im not good in english :)	02:14
Minataku	lol	02:14
smooker	dont laught xD	02:14
Minataku	I'm laughing because it's not an English issue	02:14
Radi01	chuckles then	02:14
Minataku	You just missed me saying it	02:15
Minataku	Plus, I laugh all the time	02:15
Minataku	So don't take it personally :3	02:15
smooker	no i didnt missed i just didnt understand it..	02:15
smooker	the "since"..	02:15
smooker	but now i know what it is :D	02:15
Minataku	Ah	02:16
Minataku	Sorry then	02:16
smooker	so is gentoo good :P for games :) ?	02:16
ciperlone	hello	02:16
Minataku	Heh	02:16
Minataku	It's a fairly "hardcore" distro	02:17
Minataku	You do everything yourself	02:17
smooker	lol exactly for me xDD	02:17
zibrah3ed	smooker: Its more effort than its worth	02:17
ciperlone	does anyone here knows the differente between karamba and superkaramba?	02:17
Radi01	compileing everything	02:17
Minataku	zibrah3ed: WRONG	02:18
smooker	my first try on linux was solaris xD (terrible setup) :P	02:18
Dr_willis	one has more features... both are sort of lacking. :)	02:18
=== eduardiyo is now known as Eduardiyo
Radi01	Actually, I started on 3.1 in 96. I've come along way baby.	02:18
zibrah3ed	Minataku: Right!! you could spend half a day compiling so OO starts .3 seconds faster	02:18
Minataku	I also started with Windows 3.1 on MS-DOS 5.00	02:19
Minataku	But earlier	02:19
Minataku	I started in 1991	02:19
Radi01	I liked it..never crashed on me.	02:19
Minataku	zibrah3ed: Kindly cease your attempts at trolling otherwise I will report you	02:19
Minataku	Also, the default for OO.o is a binary package	02:19
Minataku	One of the rare few	02:19
Radi01	Back when 1`2mhz was (fast).	02:21
Radi01	12	02:21
Radi01	magine that	02:21
ardchoille	lol	02:21
smooker	is there linux for floppy which can run on laptop with no hdd ?	02:21
ardchoille	smooker: I think you'd evenhave trouble getting the kernel on a floppy	02:22
smooker	i tryed win 3.1 but doesnt boot	02:22
Minataku	Heh	02:22
Minataku	I had a 33MHz 386	02:22
smooker	Minataku	02:23
zibrah3ed	smooker: List of floppy dists http://users.sunet.com.au/~tsn/floppy_linux.html	02:23
ardchoille	smooker: That lappy got a dc-rom drive?	02:23
smooker	can u help it is Toshiba sattelite T1850c	02:23
ardchoille	*cd	02:23
smooker	have only floppy	02:23
smooker	i dont know if its 386 or other :(	02:23
beefjerky	Is there an official fix to the non-free flash plugin causing firefox to hang issue? Firefox freezes just about any time I interrupt any Flash content. Running Gutsy with Flash 9	02:24
apparle	The CDs shipped have KDE4 ??????????	02:24
Radi01	I think they only ship official releases.	02:25
zibrah3ed	apparle: No I think just dolphin	02:26
word	apparle: kde4 will be released later this month i think o.O	02:26
ardchoille	apparle: kde4 is in the repos, not on the cd	02:26
=== pauljw_ is now known as pauljw
smooker	how do i change my password here ?	02:27
Minataku	Heh	02:27
ardchoille	word: It's been delayed until January	02:27
Minataku	I collect old computers	02:27
Minataku	As for one-floppy Linux distros... don't bother	02:27
Radi01	till jan?	02:27
Minataku	Stick DR-DOS 7.03 on it, smooker	02:27
ardchoille	smooker: /msg nickserv set password new_pass_here	02:27
Minataku	Hm... Satellite T1850C	02:27
Minataku	How old is that	02:27
=== evan_ is now known as ehc
Minataku	The oldest Toshiba I have is a T1200	02:27
Radi01	Another boat anchor?	02:28
Minataku	Intel i80C86 @ 9.54MHz	02:28
ardchoille	Door stop	02:28
Minataku	Radi01 and archoille: Do not troll other users.	02:28
Radi01	wow 9.5 / to druel for.	02:28
Minataku	I don't take such comments lightly	02:28
ardchoille	Minataku: You do it to others, so I thought you'd be acceptable to that, sorry.	02:28
Minataku	Just because it's old doesn't mean it's bad, and trying to anger me will cause you to be reported to channel operators	02:28
smooker	Minataku can we chat private ?	02:29
Radi01	shakes.	02:29
bascule	:)	02:29
oobe	does anyone know why some streaming sites wont work with mplayer plugin and firefox using 64 bit	02:30
Hizzle	Kubuntu is a full OS right I dont need linux already installed do I?	02:31
zibrah3ed	correct	02:31
ardchoille	Hizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu has it already	02:31
Hizzle	ok I am new to this whole thing, trying to get my feet wet	02:32
Radi01	take your time.	02:32
beefjerky	oobe: I've had similar problems. VLC works better, imho. You could try the media player connectivity extension of firefox to use VLC instead	02:32
ardchoille	Hizzle: Linux = kernel, kubuntu = Linux distribution	02:32
Radi01	ya use the (mosilla vlc) plugin.	02:32
Radi01	mozilla	02:32
beefjerky	but i'm still having problems with FF2 hanging on sites with Flash... no one else has this issue?	02:34
zibrah3ed	me too	02:34
Radi01	Most dont use 64 bit.	02:34
beefjerky	radi01: was that directed to me? if so, i use 32bit	02:35
beefjerky	ftr, opera does not seem to be affected by this (but my precious extensions!)	02:36
Radi01	no just most that have that use 64..in your case #ubuntu may help..it has allot of traffic and some one there might help	02:36
=== draik_ is now known as draik
beefjerky	radi01: yea, i've seen a lot of people report this "bug" and a lot of "workarounds" but no one method had everyone on board, and i don't want to go about symlinking and deleting directories	02:37
Radi01	dont blame ya.	02:37
pierreth	hello, I think there are a package of supplementary applications for kde, what it's name?	02:37
ardchoille	!info kubuntu-extras	02:37
ubotu	Package kubuntu-extras does not exist in gutsy	02:37
ardchoille	Well, that wasn't it	02:38
pierreth	is it replace with something else?	02:38
Radi01	you mean kd4?	02:38
ardchoille	It's there, I just don't remember the package name	02:38
beefjerky	pierreth: what do you need that you can't get using Adept or compiling yourself?	02:38
pierreth	beefjerky: it don't remember exactly, I was having more kde application with my older version of Kubuntu	02:39
ardchoille	pierreth: If you can name a few apps, someone could tell you what you need.	02:39
beefjerky	pierreth: have you looked into Add/Remove Programs? There's tons of stuff you can add	02:39
pierreth	beefjerky: yes, too much, this is where I need to find it	02:40
alastor	allo	02:40
pierreth	a remember using a time tracking application	02:40
beefjerky	pierreth: Kalarm?	02:40
pierreth	an another application to take notes	02:41
pierreth	beefjerky: may be	02:41
beefjerky	pierreth: knotes?	02:41
ardchoille	!karm	02:41
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about karm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:41
pierreth	beefjerky: should I install separatly?	02:41
LjL	!info karm	02:41
ubotu	karm: KDE time tracker tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.7enterprise20070926-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1320 kB	02:41
pierreth	beefjerky: I already have knotes	02:41
ardchoille	pierreth: kdeutils ?	02:42
pierreth	ardchoille: may be, I will look...	02:42
ardchoille	pierreth: apt-cache show kdeutils	02:43
ardchoille	Have a look at the Depends	02:43
pierreth	ardchoille: it was it!! :-)	02:43
ardchoille	Thought so :)	02:44
beefjerky	ardchoille solves yet another mystery :)	02:44
pierreth	I had a problem upgrading	02:44
bazhang	haha	02:44
pierreth	I took my old user directory from version 7.06	02:44
ardchoille	pierreth: 7.06?	02:45
pierreth	well the version before 7.10?	02:45
ardchoille	7.04	02:45
pierreth	OK :-)	02:45
beefjerky	ardchoille: i've seen others mention 7.06 before too... i wonder if there was something...	02:46
ardchoille	6.06 was only .06 because it had been delayed some weeks to polish it and make it an LTS	02:46
Dragnslcr	Probably thinking of 6.06	02:46
=== eduardiyo is now known as Eduardiyo
pierreth	Everything was OK but my shortcuts to start applications were not working?	02:46
beefjerky	makes sense.	02:46
holzmodem	hi, how can i change the font color of gtk apps (kubuntu)	02:46
pierreth	these are not in the user directory?	02:47
ardchoille	pierreth: You mean your $HOME dir?	02:47
beefjerky	holzmodem: alt+f2 > appearance and themes	02:47
pierreth	ardchoille: yes	02:47
ardchoille	beefjerky: iirc, font color isn't in the settings	02:47
pierreth	I running 7.10 with my old 7.04 directory	02:47
beefjerky	ardchoille: youre probably right, and i forgot "kcontrol" in there anyway	02:48
ardchoille	He'd have to write it into ~/.gtkrc-2 I think	02:48
pierreth	is the file format for keyboard shortcuts has change in version 7.10?	02:49
ardchoille	pierreth: And which shortcuts are you speaking of? Desktop shortcuts? kmenu items?	02:49
beefjerky	ardchoille: even if he uses the KDE style in gtk?	02:49
ardchoille	beefjerky: Not sure about that one	02:49
holzmodem	beefjerky: i using kde, the fontcolor in kcontrol is set to lightgrey, but the font in gtk apps is still black	02:49
pierreth	ardchoille: my personal keyboard shortcuts that I had in the K menu	02:49
pierreth	ardchoille: There were all gone once in 7.10	02:50
beefjerky	holzmdoem: have you tried making gtk use KDE styles (it's in kcontrol>appearance and themes) If that doesn't work, you'll probably have to tweak the settings manually :(	02:50
ardchoille	pierreth: Did you copy over the ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename> file too?	02:50
ardchoille	pierreth: Also, if you didn't explicitly save those kb shorcuts to a file, they may be gone. I had to tangle with that too.	02:51
pierreth	ardchoille: What I did is that I hype out my user directory and I replaced it with the one that I had in 7.04	02:51
ardchoille	pierreth: That happened with me and I found the problem was that I didn't save the shortcuts	02:52
pierreth	ardchoille: What do you mean, not saved? There are not in the user directory?	02:53
ardchoille	pierreth: kde uses them, but to save them to disk yu need to save them to a file. they are saved in ~/.kde/share/apps/kcmkeys/<filename>	02:53
ardchoille	At least that is what I was told	02:54
pierreth	ardchoille: Aren't they saved each I save the K menu with the editor?	02:54
pierreth	each time, I mean	02:55
ardchoille	pierreth: Nope, kmenu otems and keyboard shortcuts are two different things.. unless you mean your kmenu item shortcuts.	02:55
pierreth	ardchoille: yes, I mean kmenu item shortcuts	02:56
ardchoille	Those should have been saved in ~/.config/menus/ somewhere	02:56
ardchoille	pierreth: You can always open kmenuedit and re-enter them	02:56
pierreth	ardchoille: yes, I did that. I just wanted to understand why	02:57
apparle	genii: are you there	02:57
pierreth	ardchoille: Otherwise, everything was the way I left	02:57
pierreth	I did just that when I moved my kde suff from the mac ppc to an intel pc	02:58
ardchoille	pierreth: You can save some time/hassle by putting $HOME on its own partiton next time you install. This will keep your user dir just the way you left it	02:58
somekool	i installed ubuntu, then installed the kubuntu-desktop and I lost the french-canadian keyboard. I tried every options in kcontrol. is it possible to re-run the tool that kubuntu uses at install time ?	02:58
pierreth	ardchoille: what should I use to format and partition the disk?	02:59
pierreth	I was very happy to see my desktop the way I left it even if it was a complety different machine	03:00
ardchoille	pierreth: That can be done in the kubuntu installer or you can use gparted/qtparted for that, but don't worry about it until you next install	03:00
pierreth	this is very nice	03:00
ardchoille	somekool: Have you tried the Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout tools in kcontrol?	03:01
pierreth	ardchoille: could I use to make an easy install of BSD?	03:01
ardchoille	pierreth: I know nothing about BSD, sorry	03:01
pierreth	ardchoille: could I partition without formatting?	03:02
ardchoille	pierreth: Making a partition without formatting that partition with a file system is useless	03:02
ardchoille	You need an fs on the part	03:02
pierreth	ardchoille: I mean without formatting the whole disk	03:03
rick_	how do I set the clock on right bottom corner to show 12 hour time in AM & PM ?	03:03
ardchoille	pierreth: Oh, yes, you can make a new part and format just that part, but be very careful as one mistake can destroy other partitions. I would recommend you learn more about partitioning	03:03
pierreth	ardchoille: OK, and how can I learn?	03:04
Dragnslcr	rick_- right click -> Date and Time Format	03:04
ardchoille	rick_: Right click the clock, choose Date & Time Format, go to the Times & Dates tab and change the Time format	03:05
ardchoille	rick_: If it tells you that you need to log out and back in, just restart kicker: dcop kicker default restart	03:05
* Dr_willis still thinks 12 hr should be the default...		03:06
Dr_willis	and the darn clock should have a simple show 12/24 hr toggle. :)	03:06
ardchoille	Dr_willis: I agree with the toggle	03:06
Dr_willis	I may want 12 hr in the clock.. and 24 hr format in my docs. or somthing :	03:06
somekool	many packages missing for ubuntu, its annoying (simdock for example)	03:06
ardchoille	somekool: There is a way to fix that ;)	03:07
somekool	ardchoille: yes I tried kcontrol, I cannot find the proper variant for the keyboard I want. but the kubuntu install tool works fine.	03:07
ardchoille	somekool: Learn to package, then submit packages :)	03:07
ardchoille	somekool: Ah, ok	03:07
rick_	thanks ardcholle, that did it	03:07
ardchoille	rick_: yw	03:07
somekool	ardchoille: is there a "making deb packages for dummies" yet?	03:08
Evil_	where can I get the C/++ include files? it says I don't have them	03:08
ardchoille	somekool: I have a url for a tutorial, hold on..	03:08
somekool	ardchoille: do you know if I can rerun the install tool just to find the proper keybaord variant?	03:08
Dr_willis	Evil_, install 'build-essentials' yet? (or was it build-essential	03:08
ardchoille	somekool: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003	03:08
Evil_	nope	03:08
Evil_	I probably should, eh? lol	03:09
ardchoille	somekool: I don't know about that	03:09
Dr_willis	Evil_, yep.. You are overcoming your windows training grasshopper.. you will go far..	03:09
ardchoille	build-essential	03:09
Dr_willis	:)	03:09
Evil_	lmao	03:09
ardchoille	lol	03:09
Dr_willis	'you must throw off the harness and blinders of the gates and the windows'	03:09
Dr_willis	'and achieve the zen of the gpl'	03:10
Dr_willis	'use the foss luke!'	03:10
Evil_	lmao	03:10
Evil_	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? == any way to fix this, I usually just restart my computer	03:10
ardchoille	Dr_willis++	03:10
ardchoille	Evil_: Close your other package managers and try again	03:10
apparle	how to use kdevelop	03:11
Evil_	I don't see any open lol	03:11
Evil_	guess I just have to restart lol, brb	03:12
ardchoille	Evil_: Did you have an adept crash maybe?	03:12
rick_	anyone here use Quanta+ ?	03:14
apparle	what is new in kde 4	03:14
ardchoille	bugs	03:15
* ardchoille hides		03:15
Dragnslcr	It's funny cause it's true	03:15
apparle	and what is new in gutsy over fiesty	03:16
ardchoille	Restricted manager was the only thing I noticed	03:16
oobe	gutsy has ntfs-3g pre configured	03:17
pjeide	I have the nvidia-glx-new drivers installed (100.14.19). I have two monitors.. 1680x1050 and 1024x768. By using the XServer Display Configuration option in nvidia-settings I was able to set up both screens appropriately.	03:17
oobe	it also has mythbuntu	03:17
pjeide	However, when I go to my Monitor & Display settings in KDE my system thinks I have a 2704x1050 desktop. Is there a way to configure the system so that it recognizes two distinct screens? There is an option in "SIze, Orientation & Positioning" for second screen, but it doesn't let me check the box for second screen.	03:17
pjeide	Is that a problem with my xorg.conf..?	03:17
oobe	pjeide, i have the same thing it has never mattered	03:18
pjeide	oobe: I want to play games at fullscreen on one montior	03:18
ardchoille	pjeide: Did you click the Admin Mode button on the bottom?	03:18
Dr_willis	pjeide, you using nvidia card?	03:18
pjeide	but wine and directx only see my screen @ 2704x1050	03:18
pjeide	ardchoille: yes	03:18
pjeide	Dr_willis: yes	03:18
apparle	I have ATI drivers installed and set he screen to 1280x1024. but the logon screen has a diffrent resolution. what to do	03:19
oobe	you need to configure it to lauch using xinerame one screem x	03:19
oobe	*xinerama	03:19
Dr_willis	pjeide, for my nvidia systems. I had to enable the twinview settings using the nvidia contrll tool. THEN restart the X server for the programs to see it right.	03:19
pjeide	I am not currently using xinerama, perhaps that might help	03:19
Dr_willis	I was thinking that twinview was used in place of xinerama.	03:20
pjeide	Dr_willis: I have it setup for twinview, and I have been using it this way for about a month	03:20
oobe	it is	03:20
Dr_willis	I can move/max programs on one screen or another. Not sure if i got xinerama enabled or not.	03:20
pjeide	Dr_willis: as can I	03:20
pjeide	everything works appropriately except what resolution games recognize in WINE	03:20
Dr_willis	ive noticed that some programs are just brain dead about how they do the screen sizes. :( sadly	03:20
Dr_willis	ahh so wine is the only catch eh?	03:21
ardchoille	Figures	03:21
pjeide	mmm well some linux apps as well as you mentioned	03:21
Dr_willis	Ive notied issues with java games/programs mainly.	03:21
oobe	sounds like a tricky setup both my monitors are identical for that reason	03:21
Dr_willis	a few linux apps like.. err.. vmware, (which suprised me) and a few others.	03:21
pjeide	yea.. I tried a game called Einstein but it launches splayed out over both screens unintelligably	03:21
oobe	i dont play games either	03:21
Dr_willis	mame also had issues.	03:22
pjeide	oobe: I think that is one primary issue is that I'm using different resolutions	03:22
oobe	i spose u have already googled a bit?	03:22
pjeide	I am just wondering if I configure my xorg.conf differently if I might get KDE to recognize the dual screen setup	03:22
ardchoille	pjeide: That would make my brain explode :P	03:22
pjeide	oobe: mmhmm :P	03:22
Evil_	Anyway to get past having to put in the Kubuntu disc, because I sorta lost mine lol (when installing the build-essential)	03:23
Dr_willis	pjeide, but you said kde and normal apps are working right - just wine is the problem?	03:23
Dr_willis	Section "ServerFlags"	03:23
Dr_willis	Option "Xinerama" "0"	03:23
ardchoille	Evil_: You can comment the cd lines in /etc/apt/sources.list	03:23
pjeide	Dr_willis: I am perfectly able to fullscreen applications on one screen as long as the app doesn't seem fundamentally flawed	03:23
Dr_willis	is whats in my main machine.. I THINK 0 = disables Xinerama	03:23
Evil_	ok, thanks, ardchoille	03:23
Dr_willis	pjeide, yep. Ive seen the same issue under windows also.. bad programing. :(	03:24
ardchoille	Evil_: If you do that, then you'l need to reload the sources to take effect: sudo apt-get update	03:24
pjeide	Dr_willis: So put that way, yes, it seems as though WINE's implementation of DirectX only detects the resolution reported by KDE	03:24
oobe	xinerama is meant for running 2 xservers i forgot to mention that	03:24
pjeide	oobe: Which I am uninterested in doing	03:24
oobe	but that is a sure way of setting it up to work	03:24
pjeide	I see.	03:24
pjeide	that is logical	03:24
Dr_willis	xinerama i though twas ment to set 2 displays to be seen as one large one... twinview does a similer task but with some specific exceptions,details worked out.	03:25
Dr_willis	ie; maxamizing to just 1 monitor, and so forth.	03:25
Dr_willis	the #wine guys and forums for wine may have some work arounds.	03:25
Dr_willis	There may be a way to tell wine 'my monitor is actually.... So x So'	03:26
pjeide	Dr_willis, oobe, ardchoille: thanks for your assistance	03:26
ardchoille	yw	03:27
oobe	np	03:27
oobe	hope you get there	03:27
oobe	pjeide, you could try using a different driver like nv or vesa	03:28
pjeide	that is another option	03:28
oobe	http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-456493.html	03:28
apparle	how to change the resolution of the logon screen	03:28
Evil_	to the people who told helped me, I solute you! XD	03:28
pjeide	I went through quite a fiasco rewriting my xorg.conf to accept this video card over the onboard Intel gpu along with blacklisting the onboard's driver.. I am reluctant to go through rewriting the file again :-) It sounds as though trying to futz with WINE might be the best option	03:28
Evil_	salute* whatever l0l	03:29
oobe	you should disable ur onboard graphics card in the bios	03:29
apparle	what to do to change the resolution of logon screen	03:30
oobe	and its not that hard to switch drivers its only one line	03:30
oobe	you can back up your xorg.conf	03:30
pjeide	oobe: of course	03:30
pjeide	oobe: I am just less than compelled to play with it more from that end	03:30
oobe	did you disable your onboard card?	03:30
pjeide	yes	03:30
pjeide	well	03:31
pjeide	the BIOS only has the option to set priority	03:31
oobe	wow i thought that would of fixed it	03:31
oobe	oh ok	03:31
rick_	Anyone know Quanta+ ?	03:31
pjeide	which is similiar to disabling I suppose, because it will give priority to the PCI card (second hand box) in the event that one is detected	03:31
pjeide	and the onboard card gets disabled	03:31
pjeide	which alone wasn't sufficient, neither was blacklisting the intel driver. I had to rewrite xorg file using a configuration utility, which got it booted right up	03:32
ardchoille	rick_: Have you tried ubuntu forums?	03:32
rick_	nope, how do I get there?	03:32
ardchoille	rick_: http://ubuntuforums.org/	03:32
rick_	I thought someone here might use it I can chat with	03:33
rick_	how do I change chat color ?	03:34
ardchoille	rick_: Good idea to try here first, but failing that, ubuntu forums is awesome.	03:34
ardchoille	rick_: Which chat client?	03:34
rick_	konversation	03:34
rick_	I just started using kubuntu	03:34
ardchoille	rick_: In the config dialog > Interface > Colors	03:35
rick_	ok I think	03:36
rick_	yup, got it	03:36
apparle	when I select the Ubutnu from grub menu I get 2 errors before kubuntu boots. I also get hte same errors with live CD before booting starts. Can it be a problem	03:37
ardchoille	apparle: Sounds like a hardware problem. What are the errors?	03:37
jhutchins	apparle: Does it boot and work after that?	03:38
oobe	oobe, hello	03:42
apparle	something like "cannot allocate " something "of a" something "PCI device"	03:42
apparle	where something is a number	03:42
apparle	jhutchins: Yes everything else works perfectly	03:43
Zoo1	I'm stuck on the livecd boot up. I have a dual monitor setup, and one monitor reports out of range and the other monitor shows a tiny portion of the desktop	03:46
Zoo1	Anyone have any ideas on how to fix?	03:47
apparle	Zoo1: when you get the initial menu before booting, set a common resoltion which will be visible on both the screens	03:49
Zoo1	How do I do that?	03:50
andre_	hello gents	03:51
sMonk	I have a small problem with adept	03:51
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sMonk	every time I try to upgrade, or install something, after it's done d/l and tries to install it gets about 1/2 way then I get an error	03:52
Zoo1	apparle: How do I do that?	03:52
sMonk	"There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"	03:53
Neoxeekhrobe	Zoo1: just detach your second monitor.	03:53
sMonk	But the "program" that I'm installing seems to install and work fine... it's more of an annoyance	03:53
apparle	Zoo1: when you insert the disc. You will see a 30sec timed menu. Press the function key for selection for graphics(mostly F4 or F5) and select a common resolution appropriate for both the screens	03:53
Neoxeekhrobe	guys in KDE(kubuntu) when I use tab button to move around within a dialog window I am unable to see where the focus is going. If there are too many fields and buttons, I am forced to use the mouse. Is there a way to change this so that I could see the focus move?	03:54
Neoxeekhrobe	I am unable to see focus mover over buttons and check boxes. Links and text fields are fine.	03:54
Dr_willis	Neoxeekhrobe, may want to try some other themes/widget sets.	03:54
Neoxeekhrobe	I am currently using the default theme.	03:55
ardchoille	Neoxeekhrobe: Some apps which have tabs have the tab key focus run into the depths of those tabs.. so if yo ar enot on the tab that is currently focused with the tab key, you won't see the focus.	03:56
ardchoille	And then there are devs who don't even set tab focus when deisgning the apps	03:56
Neoxeekhrobe	but its like the same thing on all apps	03:56
Neoxeekhrobe	even on dialog boxes that have no tabs	03:57
apparle	zoo1: did you get it to work	03:57
sMonk	Hello	03:57
apparle	hello	03:57
Neoxeekhrobe	ok I just checked konqueror and yes I can see the focus in its dialog boxes.	03:58
Neoxeekhrobe	Thanks	03:58
andre_	i know this is of topic but have any of you used pioneer, its kubuntu based	03:59
ardchoille	andre_: And, iirc, it has automatix installed by default.. no , I won't use it.	04:00
apparle	how to update kubuntu	04:00
ardchoille	!update \| apparle	04:00
ubotu	apparle: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes	04:00
apparle	ardchoille: I don't want to upgrade. I want to update 7.10	04:01
zibrah3ed	apparle: sudo apt-get update, followed by sudo apt-get update	04:02
apparle	zibrah3ed: Any offline method	04:03
itst	can anyone help?	04:03
itst	V	04:03
itst	pam_quota.c:36:34: error: security/pam_modules.h: No such file or directory	04:03
zibrah3ed	apparle: i saw one yesterday let me see if i can find it again	04:04
apparle	zibrah3ed: Please be fast	04:04
Zoo1	Yes apparle, thanks!	04:05
zibrah3ed	apparle: see if this helps http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/	04:05
zibrah3ed	apparle: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572819	04:07
Zoo1	That's interesting... new problem. While installing, I get the keyboard layout, hit next, it pauses at scanning disks and times out...	04:09
Zoo1	Have two SATA drives	04:09
apparle	zibrah3ed: everything else fits. Just that I have a fast net machine with Windows XP	04:09
Zoo1	Both have NTFS partitions, one has some ext3 partitions I set up in QTParted for it	04:10
sMonk	Can I get some help with an Adept problem?	04:11
zibrah3ed	apparle: Use livecd?	04:11
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alfredo_	hi	04:13
apparle	zibrah3ed: any other option or a software which may work the same way on windows	04:13
alfredo_	OPPK	04:14
apparle	alfredo_:what is OPPK	04:15
zibrah3ed	apparle: not that i am aware of	04:19
Ch1ppy	hey, I'm having trouble getting gmail-notify to run on boot for me, can anyone help me out?	04:23
apparle	zibrah3ed: what if we compiled the source for apt in windows	04:24
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pierreth	hello, what is the best reference to use to be able to read dvd with kubuntu 7.10?	04:31
apparle	bye everyone	04:32
pierreth	bye	04:32
zibrah3ed	pierreth: DVD movies or what	04:36
smooker	How do i burn .iso images ?	04:38
zibrah3ed	smooker:K3b	04:38
ardchoille	smooker: With k3b	04:38
ardchoille	pierreth: You need to install libdvdcss2 and libxine1-ffmpeg	04:38
smooker	oic	04:38
ardchoille	!dvd \| pierreth	04:39
ubotu	pierreth: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	04:39
smooker	10x	04:39
smooker	k3b is cool :)	04:42
ardchoille	Yeah	04:42
t3ch13	Anyone have any expereince with Kubuntu on a Acer Laptop?	04:42
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pierreth	I found this: http://brenta.free.fr/spip.php?article95	04:43
smooker	where i can see how much processor / ram is my system using ?	04:44
Hirvinen	top gives some information on processes	04:44
Hirvinen	+ and processor usage	04:44
t3ch13	from a terminal free will give memory usesage	04:44
pierreth	ubotu: What do you mean by backing DVDs?	04:44
t3ch13	top	04:44
Hirvinen	For memory, free -m. What is really available is the second number on the second row.	04:45
smooker	where do i see how much processor and ram my system use ?	04:45
pierreth	ardchoille: I will try these	04:46
smooker	wth	04:48
smooker	Mem: 1899 1840 58	04:48
smooker	Kubuntu doesnt use swap til mem fill ?	04:48
stdin	why would it, swap is slow	04:49
t3ch13	snooker there is a utility called KDE System Guard that might be helpful	04:49
kopernico	HOLA	04:50
kopernico	hay alguien	04:50
kopernico	holaaaaaaaaa	04:51
kopernico	culitos	04:51
stdin	!es \| kopernico	04:51
ubotu	kopernico: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.	04:51
stdin	smooker: you can install the package "kicker-applets" to get a nice system monitor applet for kicker too	04:52
ardchoille	stdin: Your cloak isn't going to change to reflect membership status?	04:52
stdin	ardchoille: it will when I get around to asking :P	04:53
ardchoille	hehe	04:53
smooker	apt-get kicker-applets ?	04:54
pierreth	OK, by DVDs not seems to work, thank you.	04:54
stdin	smooker: close "sudo apt-get install kicker-applets"	04:54
smooker	after install where it is located ?	04:55
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stdin	smooker: you right-click the panel, choose "Add applet to panel" and add the "System Monitor" applet	04:56
smooker	nice	05:00
level1	Hi, I have some sega gensis roms and i want to map them to the sega genesis emulator dgen; the problem is that the system doesn't understand the difference between a genesis rom and an application file, so if I change the associations, I get an error message every time I start an application	05:02
level1	I changed the file extentions to .gen, but it still complains	05:02
smooker	good night all :)	05:04
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ardchoille	level1: Does it complain that applications/octet-stream can be found or something?	05:11
level1	Could not find mime type application/octet-stream	05:11
ardchoille	Right	05:11
level1	I get that error message every time I start an app... the app still starts	05:12
level1	causes some trouble on startup too	05:12
ardchoille	level1: Sometimes changing file associations can remove the octet-stream, you just need to re-add it. I'll help you do that.	05:12
level1	I tried changing the first four bits of each file, it still has this problem	05:12
level1	ardchoille: I can do that	05:12
ardchoille	level1: ok, add octet-stream back to the applications group but don't give it a file extension or an application	05:13
level1	ardchoille: I just want to be able to one click open my roms, but when I re-add octet-stream, I lose the genesis roms	05:13
ardchoille	That's a bug, I don't know how to fix it, tho :(	05:13
level1	ardchoille: anyway, I tried changing the first four bytes of each file in a hex editor and then putting the association back in... didn't seem to work, although dgen still opens the files	05:14
ardchoille	level1: Have you tried right clicking a genesis rom, choose Open with > Other, then choose the app top open it in, and check the checkbox at the bottom (Remember application association..)?	05:15
level1	ardchoille: It doesn't provide that checkbox	05:15
scooter_	does anyone know how to crack a windows XP password from the welcome screen?	05:15
level1	reminds me of a similar bug in windows	05:15
stdin	scooter_: you won't get an answer here	05:15
level1	scooter_: I'm not sure if we should be supporting illegal behavior here...	05:15
ardchoille	scooter_: This is neither the place to ask about cracking or Windows related stuff	05:15
scooter_	yea sorry	05:16
level1	I don't know if #windows would help you either, its up to you	05:16
stdin	##windows	05:16
level1	it redirects	05:16
level1	:)	05:16
stdin	sneaky windows people, always redirecting us :p	05:16
ardchoille	:)	05:17
* purpleposeidon permanently redirects stdin to stdout		05:17
level1	stdin: how dare they move to an about channel like that!	05:17
level1	stdin > /dev/null	05:17
stdin	I have /dev/null symlinked to /dev/stdin, so your plan is foiled! ;)	05:18
draik	Does anyone here know where I can find the touchscreen pad which attached to any monitor of any size via USB?	05:18
purpleposeidon	stdin: That sounds.....recursive. o_O	05:18
stdin	doesn't matter, /dev/stdin doesn't really exist...	05:18
nicolas	Hey guys, I just installed 7.10 (dual booting with Gentoo), I used LILO from my Gentoo to boot Kubuntu. Can anyone check my lilo.conf to ensure it is correct? (for instance, I didnt add the UUID stuff from grub)	05:19
stdin	it's not really there, only in your mind	05:19
* purpleposeidon redirects stdin to /proc/self/fd/0		05:19
stdin	purpleposeidon: still doesn't exist, proc is magical :p	05:20
* purpleposeidon surgically opens up stdin's hard drive, puts an ant inside, and closes it		05:22
* stdin debugs		05:22
ardchoille	There, stdin, you now have a bug	05:22
ardchoille	hehe	05:23
stdin	same thought :p	05:23
purpleposeidon	better make sure you've got GDB installed.	05:23
stdin	I have gdb, ddd and kdbg	05:23
level1	nicolas: why don't use grub?	05:24
level1	nicolas: any reason?	05:24
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nicolas	level1: Always prefered LILO. It also allows me to display a bitmap instead of the menu. Last I checked grub only allows an image as a background to the menu. That and all my configs were already in LILO on my /boot. But never encountered all the UUID stuff that kubuntu put into it's grub. Never seen it configured as a menu.lst either.	05:25
level1	my grub doesn't have UUIDs, I don't think...	05:26
stdin	nicolas: not sure lilo can do the UUID stiff, but it's not required, you can still use /dev/ addresses	05:26
level1	oh I see	05:27
level1	if menu.lst is anything like fstab, the UUIDs aren't actually nessary... I don't know why ubuntu uses them	05:27
nicolas	ok, just wondering since I wasnt sure what they were. Second up would be how do I get KDE4. AFAIK still in beta but I wouldnt mind trying it. Is there a metapackage or something for it.	05:27
level1	It causes hell when I do any kind of trivial reformating..	05:27
nicolas	I've never seen UUIDs in fstab shrugs But I've mostly been on Gentoo and Fedora.	05:28
level1	nicolas: I find complining it from source is always much more stable than getting the binaries...	05:28
level1	nicolas: it takes a little while (mostly downtime) but its not that hard	05:28
level1	nicolas: I'll get you a link	05:28
stdin	nicolas: kde4 reached RC1 a little while ago, see the link in the topic to get it	05:29
nicolas	checking	05:29
level1	http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4	05:29
stdin	ardchoille: /whois me :)	05:31
sparr_	[how] can i symlink directories across different drives and have the ".." directory behave sensibly?	05:31
stdin	sparr_: if you use relative links then you need to make sure the partitions are mounted in the same place all the time	05:32
ardchoille	stdin: That's more like it :)	05:32
stdin	:)	05:33
ardchoille	stdin: Tho, it's good to see the pdpc support	05:33
sparr_	stdin: they are	05:33
ardchoille	O may apply for membership myself, tho I don't know if I'm eligible	05:33
sparr_	stdin: and the links are absolute	05:33
stdin	ardchoille: I may get it added back, but I don't need to advertise my support for pdpc as long I a	05:34
stdin	* as I support them	05:34
ardchoille	True	05:34
stdin	spar_: then what's not working in your case?	05:34
stdin	ardchoille: why wouldn't you be eligible ?	05:35
ardchoille	stdin: I'm not a coder nor an important person	05:36
stdin	ardchoille: I only just finished my 1st beginners book on c++, I don't consider myself a coder	05:36
purpleposeidon	ardchoille: But do you have money?	05:36
stdin	ardchoille: and providing support is important	05:37
ardchoille	stdin: I think I'll apply, the most they can say is no.	05:37
draik	How do you piece together rar files that are filename.part001.rar, filename.part002.rar, etc....?	05:37
stdin	ardchoille: ask what you can do to help too (with documentation for instance) too	05:38
ardchoille	draik: Wouldn't unrar do that?	05:38
ardchoille	!rar	05:38
ubotu	rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free	05:38
ardchoille	!unrar	05:38
draik	ardchoille: Yet again, thanks for the info.	05:40
ardchoille	draik: You're welcome :)	05:40
draik	I have the worst luck with part001.rar types	05:40
draik	r01 and so forth are ok	05:41
somekool	hello	05:41
somekool	I want to install kde4 on my kubuntu system, any package of RC1 that can be easily installedÉ	05:41
somekool	??	05:41
ardchoille	draik: With today's DSL and high capacity devices, I can nly assume that is an old set of rar files.	05:41
stdin	somekool: yes, see the link in the topic	05:41
draik	ardchoille: possibly. It's a movie	05:42
ardchoille	draik: In that case, it may have been broken down to aid in fast downloading	05:42
leileilol	how can i get fluidsynth working as the default midi synth?	05:43
draik	ardchoille: And that's fine, but I would prefer r01, r02, etc...	05:43
nicolas	Is VMware supported under kubuntu?	05:43
ardchoille	draik: yeah	05:43
draik	nicolas: Yes	05:43
Stokesy	why is 667 ram more expensive than 800?	05:43
nicolas	draik: just run the tarball or is there a adept repo I havent found?	05:44
draik	667 is the neighbor to The Beast	05:44
draik	!vmware	05:44
ubotu	VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers	05:44
Stokesy	is 667 better than 800? all of dell's 'high end' machines have 667	05:44
nicolas	Stokesy: RAM is priced to order. Its about the only computer component that isnt priced as per its performance.	05:44
draik	It's late. I'm going to leave the desktop on overnight to download the movie at average 25KB/s. :/	05:47
nicolas	thats a wee bit slow. Better be a good movie heh	05:47
somekool	I have a serious keyboard problem that I really can`t fix.. I set my xorg to a french-canadian keyboard which works fine under kdm login manager. but once i logon in KDE, it get screwed and becomes half working. any idea what could it be ?	05:48
stdin	have you set the keyboard layout in system settings > regional & language ?	05:49
IceGuest_7	could someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for installing kubuntu while still keeping winxp intact? that whole partition thing has me a little confused. thank you in advance.	05:50
stdin	hmm, maybe ubotu knows...	05:51
stdin	!dualboot	05:51
ubotu	Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot	05:51
stdin	well, ubotu knows all :)	05:51
IceGuest_7	thank you so much, have a good night.	05:51
titanix88	hi people:)	05:55
titanix88	:(	05:55
leileilol	:((	05:56
titanix88	hi leileilol :)	05:57
titanix88	anyone know any channel abt linux games?	05:58
leileilol	#gametome?	05:58
titanix88	hmm.	05:59
bfrog	I've heard there's lots of issues with 7.10... is that true?	06:01
jddm	ENTONCES	06:02
jddm	QUE MAS	06:02
posingaspopular	!es	06:03
leileilol	i've had worse ati install issues in gutsy, but that's it	06:03
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.	06:03
titanix88	whats the shortcut for switching tabs in gaim(not pidgin)?	06:03
jddm	OK	06:03
posingaspopular	titanix88: alt+ctrl up and down iirc	06:06
stdin	bfrog: I've had no issues with 7.10	06:07
bfrog	are all the typical non-free somewhat-non-legal codecs available as well?	06:08
bfrog	like, lame, is lame available?	06:08
posingaspopular	bfrog: yes	06:08
bfrog	ok	06:08
bfrog	and one last one	06:08
bfrog	mythtv?	06:08
titanix88	posingaspopular: doesn't work for me:(	06:09
posingaspopular	bfrog: you can run mythbuntu	06:09
bfrog	sweet	06:09
posingaspopular	it's ubuntu specialized for mythv	06:09
bfrog	alright, thanks, time to switch then	06:09
bfrog	tired of crap not working	06:09
posingaspopular	superm1 and chadarius are two guys I know who help with that	06:09
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trillis	Could anyone spare some time to help a nub?	06:31
trillis	:(	06:32
trillis	How can I get Youtube to work for Linux?	06:32
INIT_6	trillis, do you have flash installed?	06:33
titanix88	trillis: install flash-plugin-nonfree	06:33
trillis	Eh... Nevermind. It's not youtube I need help with.	06:33
INIT_6	Right now, I am kind of stuck using VLC to play music. what is a really good mp3 player for kubuntu. don't like amarok, or kaffine. any suggestions?	06:34
trillis	I don't suppose theres a Divx webplayer for Linux?	06:34
trillis	xmms?	06:34
INIT_6	I will try it thanks, and good ? on the Divx, I will check into that right now. cuz I will need that to :)	06:35
trillis	Streaming movies aren't working for me...:(	06:36
trillis	I found a good site with working streaming videos, but I keep getting these install-plugin errors.	06:37
* trillis wants to watch the last samurai :(		06:37
INIT_6	stage6 has the best divx movies. same issue for me, says to use mplayer,	06:38
stdin	please don't talk about potentially illegal activities in here (or any other ubuntu affiliated channel)	06:38
trillis	My apologies.	06:38
INIT_6	avifile-divx-plugin < you can try this I would but I am installing other stuff.	06:39
stdin	just install mozilla-mplayer	06:39
stdin	(you may need to put "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf for divx)	06:40
trillis	So type: "enable-dvx=1" in ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf" after sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer?	06:41
* trillis is linux retarded		06:41
stdin	try starting up a video in firefox first, then the file should be created, then edit it	06:42
trillis	Should I install mozilla-mplayer first?	06:42
stdin	yes	06:42
stdin	and if you've installed any other media player plugins for firefox you should remove them	06:43
stdin	they can conflict and stop each other	06:43
trillis	Said broken packages...?	06:43
stdin	helps to have the whole error message, pastebin is your friend	06:44
trillis	link?	06:44
stdin	!paste	06:44
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:44
trillis	Heheh	06:44
trillis	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46535/	06:45
stdin	trillis: do you have multiverse enabled?	06:46
trillis	Whats that?	06:47
stdin	!multiverse	06:47
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	06:47
trillis	Not sure...	06:49
sigma_	hi guys, does the fglrx driver enable tv out functionality on the ati radeon mobility 9000?	06:51
trillis	stdin: It appears so.	06:51
stdin	trillis: try "sudo apt-get install mplayer" then	06:52
fildo	hey if i have upgraded to gutsy, is there anyway to revert back to fiesty, cause i have hardware issues with video card	06:52
sigma_	fildo: nope just backup and format	06:53
trillis	"Unable to lock the administration directory(?var/lib/dpkg)	06:53
fildo	sigma_: narh there must be a way	06:53
stdin	trillis: did you use sudo?	06:54
trillis	Yes.	06:54
stdin	fildo: there is not	06:54
stdin	trillis: have adept or another package manager open?	06:54
trillis	Yes..heheh.	06:54
sigma_	fildo: even if there was one the system would prob be very unstable after you reverted back	06:54
trillis	"Package mplayer has no installation candidate"	06:55
stdin	trillis: you sure you have multiverse enabled?	06:55
stdin	!info mplayer	06:55
ubotu	mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13.1 (gutsy), package size 3775 kB, installed size 9428 kB	06:55
sigma_	fildo: i think the dev's are still looking into implement some sort of a rollback feature	06:55
trillis	Uhm...	06:55
trillis	How can I check?	06:55
fildo	sigma_: yeah true	06:56
stdin	trillis: what version of kubuntu do you have?	06:56
trillis	Departed maybe?	06:56
trillis	How to I check?	06:56
stdin	!version	06:56
ubotu	To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell	06:56
trillis	Dapper	06:57
trillis	Heheh, I knew it had a d and a p.	06:57
sigma_	does anyone know if xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.28.8+2.6.17.9-12.4_i386.deb will work on feisty? i tried it on gutsy with my ati mobility 9000 and it picked up the driver but didnt work	06:57
sigma_	trillis: dam don't you think its time to upgrade:)	06:58
stdin	trillis: close all package managers, press Alt-F2 and type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" then post that file to pastebin	06:58
stdin	sigma_: why didn't you install the gutsy version of the driver on gutsy?	06:59
trillis	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46536/	06:59
sigma_	stdin: ati dropped support for my chipset in that version :( so i can't use the latest version	07:00
stdin	sigma_: then your only option is to get the old driver from ati.com and install that (if it exists)	07:00
sigma_	i got the version from the ubuntu repo's, is that the same thing?	07:01
stdin	sigma_: no, that version will only work with a certain kernal version, the 2.6.17 one (gutsy uses 2.6.22)	07:02
stdin	trillis: see the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe", add the word "multiverse" after "universe" so it looks like "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse"	07:02
sigma_	dam!	07:03
sigma_	so if i install the binary one from the ati website in gutsy it should work you say?	07:03
trillis	To all of them?	07:03
stdin	trillis: no, just that one line	07:03
stdin	sigma_: only if that particular version is available	07:04
fildo	ok i have a nvidia question if anyone can answer for me	07:04
sigma_	ya i saw it on the ati site - they keep it in the archives	07:04
trillis	save?	07:04
stdin	sigma_: or you could get "fglrx-kernel-source" from feisty and compile that one on gutsy, that may work	07:04
stdin	trillis: yes, then do "sudo apt-get update"	07:05
sigma_	fildo: shoot, nvidia is usually simpler than ati	07:05
sigma_	]stdin: what does that kernel source thing do?	07:05
trillis	It finished, not try mozilla-mplayer?	07:05
stdin	sigma_: that's the source of the driver, the same one that's used to make the driver on feisty	07:06
stdin	trillis: yes	07:06
trillis	Yaay, thank you stdin.	07:06
sigma_	stdin: does it work on gutsy as well and how exactly do i use it after installing it?	07:07
trillis	I'll most likely be on tomorrow with many more questions and dilemma's.	07:07
fildo	sigma_: using fiesty i was using the proprietary driver it worked brillant. now i have upgraded to gutsy. using the proprietary driver , it tend to login to kde, then boot me out into the login screen after a few mins, like its crashing	07:07
trillis	Thanks, and have a good night.	07:07
stdin	sigma_: you get that package and then do something like "sudo ma ai fglrx" i think	07:07
TAB-2112	hello all, if I've installed Ubuntu from the Live CD and have now decided that I definitely prefer KDE to GNOME, is there any easy way to remove the GNOME-based apps?	07:07
Radi01	¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı ʎɐldsıp ʎɯ	07:07
Radi01	whew	07:08
stdin	Radi01: that gets very old very fast	07:08
ardchoille	Radi01: Yeah, that's a nice website :P	07:08
Radi01	did ya find it	07:08
sigma_	fildo: did you build the driver from the nvidia or use the glx drivers in the repo?	07:09
fildo	glx in the repo	07:09
fildo	i usally install it myself, thru apt-get	07:09
ardchoille	Radi01: I was going to suggest you stand on your head :)	07:09
Radi01	lol	07:09
fildo	but i have been told you can also use restircted-manager	07:09
Radi01	Some people have no sense of humor.	07:10
fildo	fiesty used to use nvidia-glx	07:10
sigma_	fildo: dont use restricted manager, confuses the situation, what card do you have?	07:10
fildo	gutsy uses nvidia-glx-new. could be the driver i say	07:11
fildo	im on a laptop	07:11
sigma_	fildo: gutsy also uses it, thats how i installed my one, no there is a "nvidia-glx" version for gutsy	07:11
sigma_	check it out @ packages.ubuntu.com	07:12
fildo	nVidia Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] (rev a1)	07:12
ardchoille	Here's how I install nvidia drivers in my Gutsy system: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable	07:13
ardchoille	Done :)	07:13
ardchoille	Of course, you have to restart xorg	07:13
fildo	hehe	07:13
fildo	i just wanna play et	07:14
ardchoille	lol	07:14
mark_	question: just installed kubuntu gutsy on my lenovo T40 lappy. I'm checking dmesg and I'm seeing repeated messages "printk: x messages suppressed.". What am I looking at?	07:14
ardchoille	mark_: Does this page have any info that helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412125	07:16
sigma_	stdin: r u still there?	07:17
ardchoille	sigma_: pfft, he lives here	07:17
* ardchoille ducks		07:17
stdin	/cs kb ardchoille ;)	07:17
ardchoille	hahaha	07:17
stdin	damn, put a space in there :p	07:17
ardchoille	Lucky for me	07:17
mark_	ardchoille: err... well, at a quick skimming I can't see anything that relates, but thanks...	07:18
ardchoille	mark_: Sorry about that, that was all I could find in google	07:19
stdin	sigma_: you wanted me for something?	07:20
m0u5e	anyone know where xserver-xgl stored its config files?	07:20
mark_	ardchoille: np. I've searched google myself and I've found some references to reducing some logging, but nothing that specifically states what that particular message indicates nor what it might be indicitive of...	07:20
sigma_	stdin: will i be able to use that ati driver i got from the ubuntu repo's with that fglrx-kernel-source package you told me to get?	07:20
purpleposeidon	How do I make wlassistant run with that setuid thing?	07:20
stdin	sigma_: no, that package lets you build a driver package from it	07:21
purpleposeidon	If I do chmod+s; it says The KDE libraries are not designed to run with suid privileges.	07:21
sigma_	stdin: ok im lost what do you mean?	07:21
ardchoille	purpleposeidon: Be careful with setuid, are you sure you really need to change that?	07:21
purpleposeidon	ardchoille: Yeah, I'm lazy.	07:22
ardchoille	purpleposeidon: fwiw, being lazy can open up a security hole where one wouldn't otherwise be open :)	07:22
purpleposeidon	"Oh no, somebody's gonna somehow login to my laptop and do x forwarding, and change my wireless access point!"	07:22
stdin	sigma_: from what I think I know ;) you do "sudo apt-get install module-assistant build-essential debhelper debconf dh-make fakeroot libstdc++5 linux-headers-generic fglrx-kernel-source" then do "sudo m-a prepare,update" then "sudo m-a build,install fglrx-kernel"	07:24
stdin	sigma_: just found this, should help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#head-796aa4d6d0477c8ed722acef1878cc5626855ae3	07:25
sigma_	stdin: but will it build it from the edgy deb that i got?	07:26
stdin	sigma_: the fglrx-kernel-source package is just the source, it should build on any version	07:26
stdin	should (doesn't mean it will)	07:27
sigma_	lol	07:27
sigma_	stdin: i installed everything and have fglrx.deb sitting on my desktop, whats the command i must type in Konsole to convert it?	07:28
stdin	convert to what?	07:28
sigma_	convert it to a gutsy deb	07:28
stdin	if you built it with module-assistant then it is	07:29
sigma_	i didnt build it yet stdin, its the one i downloaded from the ubuntu repo	07:32
sigma_	ok that didnt work, looks like il have 2get the ati driver from ati.com	07:39
=== Nakkel_ is now known as Nakkel
abuaoi	hello...anybody home ????	07:56
=== jd_ is now known as jdlizard
jdlizard	anyone know anything about vdrift	08:00
posingaspopular	hi abuaoi	08:01
=== Evil_DuDe_ is now known as Evil_DuDe
FunnyLookinHat	Ah crap, just read the news about KDE 4.0 being pushed back another month to mid-january : P	08:38
=== posingaspopular is now known as posingaspopula
Lynoure	I could not figure out how to add things to panels in KDE4 rc1 yet, so not really eager for it. :) (help is welcome, though)	08:41
sigma_	why can't k3b burn multisession dvd-rw's on lg dvd writers?	08:43
sigma_	it keeps telling me some incremental streaming method is not available	08:43
Lynoure	I have an LG writer but I have not had need to try multisession dvd-rw yet...	08:44
=== posingaspopula is now known as posingaspopular
sigma_	lynoure: it don't work and i dont know why, i like multisession because i used it in windows to do my backups quickly	08:44
Lynoure	sigma_: you mean you have already gotten some other people to verify it does not work for them either?	08:45
sigma_	lynoure: nope but i tried it on both my pc's - one intel and one amd will totally diff hardware but the same dvd-rw drive and it doesnt work	08:46
Lynoure	sigma_: it's still possible you are missing some software on both, but you could check Launchpad for that, and maybe report a bug	08:48
sigma_	ok i see but can they fix k3b?	08:48
Lynoure	the exact error message would help, too. As I cannot test with dvd-rw now (none of them around right now)	08:48
Lynoure	They can delegate bug reports, and it being open source, yes, fixing is possible, too.	08:49
sigma_	does anyone know how to change the phpmyadmin password manually?	08:58
leileilol	i wish that "fluidsynth: warning: ALSA sequencer buffer overrun, lost events" warning went away	09:01
leileilol	internet says 'ignore it, it's harmless' but it's actually making a huge oversampled playback that hurts ears	09:02
giano	test	09:08
hangthedj	test?	09:08
giano	yeah sorry i'm testing connection ;)	09:08
osman47	!de	09:08
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	09:08
hangthedj	giano, it works!	09:09
giano	yeah!	09:09
giano	now i try with proxy...go and get another channel	09:09
giano	:D	09:09
giano	ok #a is good enough	09:10
hangthedj	i love proxies.	09:10
Lynoure	Is there somewhere instructions on how to use kde4? I have it installed, but I don't understand how to do some things yet (panels, mostly)	09:16
wiggy	hello	09:35
wiggy	hello ???	09:35
leon_romain	hello wiggy	09:36
hangthedj	wiggy \| hi	09:36
hangthedj	hi	09:36
hangthedj	oops	09:36
hangthedj	wiggy, hi!	09:37
hangthedj	!hi \| wiggy	09:37
ubotu	wiggy: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	09:37
hangthedj	there we go	09:37
wiggy	Thanks	09:37
wiggy	can someone tell me how to turn my kubuntu into french ?	09:37
wiggy	I've just installed it but everything is in english	09:37
stdin	wiggy: should be in KMenu > System Settings > Regional & Language	09:39
wiggy	ok, let me check it	09:39
hangthedj	wiggy, when you installed why didn't you choose your language?	09:39
wiggy	I chose french	09:41
Cicci0	hi... someone has tried installing klamav on kubuntu 7.10?	09:41
wiggy	but the system comes in english	09:41
Cicci0	I can't install successfully dazuko module	09:41
wiggy	stdin, I don't have french in the list	09:41
jpatrick	Cicci0: you probably won't ever need it, but I have installed clamav	09:41
hangthedj	wiggy, the installation should let you choose your language though.	09:41
Cicci0	jpatrick: I need it cause I'd like to have online control on removable media (for work purpose)	09:42
wiggy	I said that I choose french during the installation hangthedj	09:42
hangthedj	weird.	09:42
Cicci0	I can use klamav and clamav without problems but I'd like to have real-time analysis...	09:43
jpatrick	wiggy: installed language-pack-kde-fr?	09:43
jpatrick	Cicci0: sorry, I can't help you there :(	09:43
wiggy	how to do it ?	09:43
jpatrick	wiggy: type "sudo apt-get install language-pack-kde-fr" into the konsole	09:43
jpatrick	Cicci0: unless you look for the logs in /var/logs	09:44
wiggy	thanks	09:44
jpatrick	wiggy: and afterwards it should appear under Languages in system settings	09:45
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Dragonath	anyone know if skype meant for 7.04 works on 7.10 too?	09:47
jpatrick	Dragonath: I have installed it on Gutsy	09:47
jpatrick	from skype.com	09:47
Dragonath	and it works ok?	09:47
jpatrick	haven't tried it (for dad)	09:47
Dragonath	ahh	09:48
jpatrick	but it worked fine on his lappy	09:48
Dragonath	gonna try anyways, thanks	09:49
Lynoure	Dragonath: it does.	09:55
Lynoure	Dragonath: at least for basic stuff, no video for me :)	09:55
dpix	hello	10:02
hangthedj	!hi \| dpix	10:03
ubotu	dpix: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	10:03
dpix	is it compatible KDE + ATI X600 + COMPIZ-FUSION?	10:03
hangthedj	!compiz	10:03
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	10:03
jpatrick	!es \| dpix	10:05
ubotu	dpix: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.	10:05
swayer	hi	10:10
dpix	hello	10:10
dpix	kubuntu compiz-fusion	10:10
dpix	compiz-fusion	10:11
dpix	!compiz-fusion	10:11
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	10:11
ashley_	hi	10:12
hangthedj	ashley_, whats going on?	10:13
jordinateur	ther's noone ?	10:28
jpatrick	could be..	10:28
jpatrick	!fr \| jordinateur	10:28
ubotu	jordinateur: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	10:28
jordinateur	How do you know I'm french ??	10:29
jpatrick	I have my ways...	10:29
jpatrick	nah, it's just --> jordinateur has joined this channel (@FR).	10:29
jordinateur	hha okay	10:29
jordinateur	bah there's noone in french channel ;p	10:30
jordinateur	so I've a big recurent problem with compiz	10:30
jpatrick	jordinateur: there are 26 people in the kubuntu-fr one	10:30
jpatrick	!compiz \| jordinateur	10:30
ubotu	jordinateur: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	10:30
jordinateur	when I active compiz (I don't know how to say that) my screen is blank !! I must return in konsole mode to enter some lines to kill compiz's process to work normaly	10:31
jordinateur	it's must be in cause of glx or I don't know...	10:32
jordinateur	I've installed drivers of my graphic card !	10:32
jordinateur	It worked good yesterday but after a reboot, there's this blank screen	10:33
jordinateur	P.S : Sorry for my bad english ^^	10:33
onishidato	can someone tell me what is Wine program?	10:34
sigma_	how do i delete the suspend and hibernate buttons from my logout dialog?	10:34
onishidato	!wine	10:34
ubotu	WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.	10:34
sigma_	onishidato: its a windows emulator that helps you run win programs in linux	10:35
onishidato	i can't not close the apt program on my computer. they say that i don't 'have permission. But i'm the administrator. how can i do now?	10:42
onishidato	hello	10:43
onishidato	anyone here?	10:44
hangthedj	onishidato, you can't not close, do you mean you can't close	10:45
_DT	onishidato: open a terminal window. type sudo killall synaptic	10:48
_DT	that should do it. you'll need to enter your root pass though	10:48
_DT	it basically stops the program from the command line by killing the process	10:49
stdin	_DT: onishidato left a while ago	10:49
jpatrick	:> ...	10:49
JackWinter	is there a good program to produce animated gifs of screenshots, or to record the desktop including mouse movements. i'd like to make a few tutorials.	10:57
llutz	JackWinter: recordmydesktop	10:57
stdin	!screencast \| JackWinter	10:58
ubotu	JackWinter: Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.	10:58
ilor	is there somewhere a guide on making fn-keys work on laptops?	10:59
WaltzingAlong	!find milo	10:59
ubotu	Found: kmilo, kmilo-legacy	10:59
WaltzingAlong	!info kmilo \| ilor, perhaps this software?	11:00
ubotu	ilor, perhaps this software?: kmilo: laptop special keys support for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 66 kB, installed size 240 kB	11:00
ilor	I seem to have it already installed	11:01
hangthedj	kmilo is a peice of crap	11:01
WaltzingAlong	ilor: yeah it probably is. which keys did you want?	11:01
ilor	I want brightness and volume	11:01
ilor	the rest I dont care	11:01
ilor	the panel-light-off key works	11:02
JackWinter	which screen capture program do you guys prefer. i might lean to recordmydesktop since it's in the repo and has a kde frontend?	11:03
ilor	and the volume "kind of" works - it goes form 0% to 11% only and doesn't actually affect the colume	11:03
WaltzingAlong	!fn	11:03
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	11:03
hangthedj	ilor, what kind of computer do you have?	11:03
ilor	asus f3jp	11:03
hangthedj	if your having the 11% bug, kmilo won't work with your computer	11:04
hangthedj	it only recognizes, the master channel so if your first channel is like pcm, it wont work.	11:04
ilor	what should I do then?	11:04
hangthedj	or front	11:05
hangthedj	uninstall it, and map your keys using the kmix global keyboard shortcuts	11:05
hangthedj	there will be no osd, but it will control your volume	11:05
hangthedj	big reason why i use kubuntu for my desktop and ubuntu for my laptop	11:06
Raizard	Hello all	11:09
jpatrick	!hi \| Raizard	11:10
ubotu	Raizard: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	11:10
Raizard	I have a problem with linuxant driverloader. I install it correctly but konqueror isn't able to open the web configuration panel. Can anyone help me?	11:10
Raizard	ah in Ubuntu all work in the right way, so i can't figure out why it doen't qork in kubuntu	11:13
Raizard	work*	11:13
dyson	werd	11:13
dyson	compiz --replace takes me to a login screen then loads default meta :/	11:13
dyson	i`m on gutsy, got it working on feisty, shouldn't have upgraded	11:14
Raizard	dyson	11:14
dyson	ye?	11:15
Raizard	compiz --replace doesn't work for me 'cause it's a difference between feisty and gutsy	11:15
dyson	solution?	11:15
dyson	answers man, gimme answes :P	11:15
Raizard	i activated compiz in the control panel	11:16
dyson	there's a control panel?	11:16
Raizard	i choosed Advance desktop effects	11:16
Raizard	and i have compiz fusion to work	11:16
dyson	what do you mean by control panel	11:16
Raizard	mmm	11:16
Raizard	^^ i'm a newbie in kubuntu, i'm talking about ubuntu but i think the solution is quite the same	11:17
JackWinter	ok,recordmydesktop works good, and i like the integration in kde. how do i convert the resulting .ogg file to animated gif?	11:17
Raizard	can anyone help me with linuxant driverloader???	11:18
WaltzingAlong	Raizard: you could check in #ubuntu	11:19
Raizard	no i'm talking about KUBUNTU	11:19
Raizard	i think i'm in the right place	11:19
gabbah	what program do you use to monitor your cpu temp?	11:20
WaltzingAlong	Raizard: sure are. ok the linuxant download?	11:20
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: ok, succeful install	11:20
=== boubbin_ is now known as boubbin
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: but konqueror can't use the web configuration panel	11:20
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: i don't know why	11:20
WaltzingAlong	Raizard: neither do i. have you tried in firefox?	11:21
Lynoure	gabbah: I usually just do acpi -t occasionally, but depending on your system it might not work out of the box	11:21
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: that's what i want to do	11:21
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: do you think it makes it to work?	11:22
WaltzingAlong	Raizard: sorry i never used the linuxant drivers	11:22
=== comp11 is now known as _LUminita_
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: in sabayon linux konqueror was able to access the web conf panel	11:23
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: in ubuntu all works fine	11:23
WaltzingAlong	Raizard: sorry i really do not know	11:23
gabbah	gabriel@gabriel-desktop:~$ acpi -t	11:23
gabbah	No support for device type: thermal	11:23
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: In Kubuntu doesn't work	11:24
Lynoure	Does anyone know a source for Gutsy packaget Kraft?	11:24
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: Maybe is tit a problem of port?	11:24
=== adria is now known as Adrianet
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: i have to login at http://127.0.0.1:18020/	11:25
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: Do i have to open this port, wich maybe is closed by default?	11:26
WaltzingAlong	are you using a proxy? maybe squid has not been configured to allow 18020 as a safe port	11:26
WaltzingAlong	you should be able to connect to it from localhost though i suppose a firewall could be blocking that too	11:26
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: i have a default installation of kubuntu	11:26
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: what is squid?	11:27
jpatrick	!info squid	11:27
Raizard	WaltzingAlong: never heard about that	11:27
ubotu	squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB	11:27
Raizard	optional?	11:27
Raizard	so it isn't installed by default	11:27
jpatrick	yes	11:28
Raizard	i try with firefox	11:28
jpatrick	not everyone wants a WWW proxy cache installed on their computer	11:28
WaltzingAlong	Raizard: right likely not installed then	11:28
Raizard	iceweasel	11:30
Raizard	i try with this	11:30
WaltzingAlong	k	11:30
dpix	hey	11:31
dpix	can anyone help me with compiz-fusion	11:31
dpix	I've got an ATI X600 (accelerated 3d) + compiz-fusion + Kubuntu 7.10, when I activate compiz-fusion (compiz --replace) my computer freezes	11:32
WaltzingAlong	dpix: which driver/module for the video card?	11:32
dpix	how do I know that?	11:32
WaltzingAlong	Kubuntu Gutsy is not shipping with compiz-fusion installed (or enabled). It can still be installed though. Follow the instructions for gutsy at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion . for more, ask in #compiz-fusion & see http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/ \| dpix, otherwise try with the newer fglrx module	11:33
dpix	yes, I did that	11:33
dpix	fglrk ?	11:33
dpix	fglrk	11:33
dpix	!fglrk	11:33
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fglrk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	11:33
WaltzingAlong	fglrx	11:33
Raizard	!iceweasel	11:34
ubotu	Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel	11:34
WaltzingAlong	fglrx 8.42.3 (this one supports AIGLX) howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) \| dpix	11:34
niko_	hi to all	11:35
dpix	!fglrx	11:35
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	11:35
niko_	i've installe dth fglrx	11:35
niko_	but when i install ccsm	11:35
niko_	the icon image	11:35
niko_	they aren't	11:35
niko_	and the screen for turnig off, rebooting, etc show me only the terminate session option	11:36
niko_	wath's wrong?	11:36
niko_	i followed the wiki	11:36
dpix	me too	11:36
niko_	no one?	11:38
niko_	!ati	11:38
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	11:38
niko_	!help	11:38
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	11:38
WaltzingAlong	#kubuntu is not specifically for unsupported compiz in kde/kubuntu support	11:40
risto	any quanata users ?	11:45
bad-wimpie	heello	11:46
dpix	hi	11:46
risto	hi	11:47
risto	how i can set some code templates	11:47
saky	join #love	11:48
jpatrick	saky: with / in front might help :)	11:48
gabriel_	my sound suddenly stopped working after a reboot... where do i start the troubleshooting?	11:49
WaltzingAlong	!sound \| gabriel_	11:52
ubotu	gabriel_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	11:52
dpix	how can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.1	11:54
niko_	hi to all	11:55
dpix	how can I make my 5.1 system sound work? and not only 2.1	11:55
niko_	i'm in trouble with fstab	11:55
niko_	i can't create any file	11:55
gabriel_	thanks WaltzingAlong :)	11:56
kraut	moin	11:57
=== desti_T2 is now known as desti
gabriel_	must i use the 64-bit version of ubuntu in order to use my 4gig of ram?	12:13
stdin	to use all of it without recompiling the kernel, yes	12:14
gabriel_	i have a 64-bit cpu... core 2 duo	12:14
gabriel_	hmpf..	12:14
gabriel_	it seems it uses only 3291MB	12:15
gabriel_	i tried 64 bit version but had some problems with flash.. is it not recommended to run it yet? i mean in terms of applications supporting it and general troubles..	12:16
gabriel_	?	12:16
velho	hello people. does any one knows how can i put linux to read the folder size of each folder, like this program i use in windows? http://foldersize.sourceforge.net/ thank you in advance :D	12:16
Raizard	nothing at all	12:20
Raizard	Driveloader web conf doesn't work	12:20
Raizard	can anyone help me?	12:20
stdin	velho: "df /path/to/folder" in console or kdirstat for a GUI	12:22
Raizard	Can anyone help me with driverloader?	12:23
=== velho is now known as ciperlone
Raizard	Can anyone help me with driverloader?	12:24
Raizard	plz	12:24
jpatrick	!pacience	12:24
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pacience - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	12:24
Lynoure	Raizard: if you are a bit more specific, you are more likely to get help	12:25
stdin	!patience	12:25
ubotu	The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	12:25
Raizard	ok	12:25
Raizard	now i explain	12:25
Raizard	i installed driverloader with source	12:25
Raizard	all done	12:25
Raizard	but konqueror can't access the web configuration panel	12:26
Raizard	i read the wiki	12:26
Raizard	do what it says to do	12:26
Raizard	but all works well, BUT the webconfiguration panel	12:26
Raizard	i don't know why...	12:27
Lynoure	Raizard: so, what exactly happens when you try to access http://localhost:18020/ ?	12:29
Raizard	Lynoure: an error message tell me that konqueror can't connect with the specified host	12:30
Lynoure	How did you start webconfd?	12:31
Raizard	Lynoure: if i use "ps -C webconfd" the system tell me that this process is running	12:31
Raizard	Lynoure: modprobe driverloader	12:32
Raizard	i used this command	12:32
dyson2	aight	12:32
dyson2	so sum1 feel like helping me install compiz?	12:32
jpatrick	!compiz \| dyson2	12:33
ubotu	dyson2: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	12:33
dyson2	been there	12:33
Lynoure	Raizard: that just loads the module, it does not necessarily start the web service. Could you tell me what instructions you followed so far?	12:33
Raizard	Lynoure: i do exactly this	12:34
Lynoure	(I normally steer clear of wifi that requires closed source drivers, so I really don't know what howto people use)	12:34
Raizard	Lynoure: i MUST use this drivers	12:34
Raizard	Lynoure: it's the only way i have to reach the web	12:35
Lynoure	Raizard: sudo dldrconfig --webconf=127.0.0.1:18020 should start it	12:35
Lynoure	Raizard: what's the wifi card you are using?	12:35
dyson2	thing is, when i `compiz --replace` i get the login screen, and when logging in it loads kdm again	12:35
ciperlone	ey	12:35
Raizard	Lynoure: D-Link DWL G-132	12:36
Raizard	Lynoure: in ubuntu works, in other KD Environments work	12:36
Raizard	Lynoure:in Kubuntu doesn't work	12:36
Raizard	Lynoure: now i try with the command you tell me	12:37
Raizard	Lynoure: and then came back	12:37
Raizard	Lynoure: to let you know	12:37
dyson2	compiz on kubuntu	12:45
dyson2	be a man	12:45
Pilot	I need to install JRE. Is it best to use the .bin file from sun, or use a package through Adept? And if through Adept, the architecture dependant (75MB) or the architecture independant (14MB)	12:46
dyson2	Kubuntu 7.10 & compiz? followed numerous online guides. can i get some help from sum1 who knows something?	12:48
Lynoure	Pilot: I ended up using the one from Sun, but I have not really done comparative research, just at the point when I did it Eclipse seemed happier that way	12:49
Lynoure	Pilot: But of course Ubuntu packages are easier to upgrade.	12:49
ksal	dyson2: what's the problem?	12:51
Pilot	ok thansk.	12:51
dyson2	well i THINK xorg dies	12:52
dyson2	when i do a 'compiz --replace'	12:52
ksal	dyson2: are you sure that x crashes?	12:53
dyson2	well i get the login screen again	12:54
Pilot	So I tried to install jre through adept and it crashed... lol	12:54
ksal	dyson2: kde? what graphic card you have?	12:54
ksal	have you installed restricted drivers?	12:54
=== thomas_ is now known as Werzi2001
dyson2	i thought i was supposed to NOT install the restricted drivers	12:55
dyson2	the drivers i have are from the nvidia site	12:55
dyson2	followed some guid	12:55
dyson2	guide	12:55
dyson2	(thought the restricted drivers = nvidia-glx package, yes? i`m not using those.)	12:56
ksal	dyson2: you should'nt install drivers from nvidia or ati sites	12:56
dyson2	nvidia 7-series card	12:56
ksal	they can do a mess in your system	12:56
dyson2	so i revert back to the nvidia-glx drivers?	12:56
dyson2	3d works fine though, i can play games and my openGL screensavers work	12:57
dyson2	how do i get the output from 'compiz --replace' into a text file ?	12:57
dyson2	can i run it from a different login?	12:57
Lynoure	dyson2: compiz --replace >> compiz.txt should probably be enough	12:58
dyson2	brb	12:58
ksal	dyson2: kubuntu should propose you to install restricted drivers from the repo	12:59
ksal	i had this with my card	12:59
liyongning	大家好	12:59
dyson2	this is even thought the compiz site tells me different	12:59
dyson2	http://compiz.org/NVidia	12:59
dyson2	?	12:59
ksal	in control center, on advanced tab you have a manager for that.	12:59
ksal	oh, yeah? strange, i never heard that	12:59
ksal	dyson2: i have gf4, restricted drivers from repo and everything works well	13:00
ksal	however, i don't enable compiz, to slow machine for that ;)	13:00
dyson2	ok, reverted drivers	13:01
dyson2	lets have a reboot	13:01
dyson2	and i`ll get back to you	13:01
dyson2	thanks so far	13:01
WaltzingAlong	!nvidia	13:01
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	13:01
ksal	WaltzingAlong: too late :p	13:01
ksal	i hope it won't crash his sys :p	13:02
Pilot	So I tried to install JRE through adept and it crashed. Now trying to reload it says another app is using it. If I click Yes to the prompt, adept crashes again. Aside from rebooting, is there another way to fix this? ps aux doesnt seem to show any processes	13:08
=== eduardiyo is now known as Eduardiyo
dysonX	http://pastebin.com/d4c81e076	13:15
=== velho is now known as ciperlone
chillmann	hi there	13:33
chillmann	I'	13:33
ciperlone	yey	13:34
chillmann	I've got a problem with my Alt-Tab and Alt-F5 behaviour in KDE. Alt+Something seems to work only on the desktop but not when an application has the focus. any idea?	13:34
chillmann	actually this is also true for alt-F4 etc..	13:35
ciperlone	fif you check on the kde shortcuts?	13:36
chillmann	xev shows Alt key is definetely working and I can also assign Alt-Tab to "cycle through windows" in KDE system settings. however, as soon as an application has the focus, it's not working	13:36
chillmann	ciperlone: yep, those are set up correctly	13:36
Pilot	Can anyone help me figure out why Firefox doesnt want to use my installed jre6? Installed both via adept and via Sun's .bin download.	13:36
ciperlone	are you using compiz ou beryl?	13:36
ciperlone	ore none of them?	13:37
chillmann	ciperlone: actually I think I'm using Kwin. I just upgraded to gutsy.	13:37
ciperlone	hmm	13:37
chillmann	ciperlone: yes, KWin	13:37
ciperlone	because if you are using compiz, it takes control of default kde shortcuts	13:37
ciperlone	i'm sorry, i cannot help you	13:38
ciperlone	unless you expecify the problem	13:38
ciperlone	but i cannot promisse anything	13:38
=== emilsedgh_ is now known as emilsedgh
chillmann	ciperlone: I just double-checked. Definitely no compiz. It's not even installed	13:38
chillmann	it's quite funny that it's only not working from the apps	13:39
chillmann	but it's working on the desktop	13:39
ciperlone	WHICH apps?	13:40
chillmann	all	13:40
chillmann	like when an application window has the focus, alt-f5 does nothing	13:40
ciperlone	r u using kde?	13:40
chillmann	yes	13:40
chillmann	when on a desktop without any windows, alt-f5 shoes me a nice list of all windows in my KDE environment sorted by desktop	13:41
chillmann	as it should be...	13:41
ciperlone	did you double check everything in the kde shortcut area?	13:41
chillmann	yep	13:41
chillmann	the shortcuts are fine in general	13:42
chillmann	the problem is that the system wide shortcuts are ignored in application windows	13:42
chillmann	they only work when the desktop has the focus	13:42
ciperlone	that's strange...	13:42
Lynoure	chillmann: have you always had that problem, or did it start after one change or another?	13:42
chillmann	Lynoure: it started after my upgrade to gutsy	13:42
ciperlone	mayke an sudo aptitude update will solve the problem	13:43
chillmann	ciperlone: all packages are up to date	13:43
ciperlone	well, i'm sorry but i cannot help. if i was a dev I will ask you to type some commands in the terminal, but since i'm not...	13:44
chillmann	ciperlone: thanks anyway	13:45
ciperlone	you're welcome :)	13:46
Norgur	hey, i got a problem with my german Microsoft keyboard	13:46
Norgur	on this, the keys @ and / do not work with Kubuntu	13:47
Norgur	what is going wrong there?	13:47
llutz	Norgur: check kbd-layout in 7etc/X11/xorg.conf	13:47
Norgur	what shall i look for?	13:48
llutz	Option "XkbModel" "pc105"	13:49
llutz	Norgur: then "Layout" and "Variant"	13:49
somekool	hello, my french-canadian keybaord works in X, but not in KDE ??? Why would that be ???	13:50
somekool	I do setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout ca -variant fr and it works in any WM but KDE .... I cannot believe this ...	13:50
Lynoure	somekool: do you have it similarly set up in the kde settings?	13:50
somekool	yes	13:51
somekool	I can do some accent but not all	13:51
somekool	its like incomplete french keybaord	13:51
somekool	wait I just discovered something	13:51
somekool	I am in E17 at the moment, and the french keybaord works NICE in xterm but not in Konversation	13:52
jembouge	somekool, are there so many differences between your canadian-french keyboard and my french-french one?	14:00
jembouge	cause mine works just perfectly	14:00
Norgur	in my xorg.conf there is the line Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch" at the keyboard section	14:02
Norgur	what does it say?	14:02
yaccin	how is it possible, that wlan works with ubuntu, but not with kubuntu?	14:21
yaccin	-_-	14:21
somekool	jembouge: many yes ;)	14:24
yaccin	:(	14:24
Kachna	hey guys, anyone can play .rm files in mplayer?	14:24
spawn57	man I wish compiz wouldn't crash a few times every bloody day	14:25
somekool	Norgur: i dont have the XkbOptions	14:25
WaltzingAlong	spawn57: tis not crashing at all here (thanks kwin)	14:25
spawn57	yeah i'm using kwin atm ..I like compiz a lot though :(	14:26
* somekool restarting X		14:26
yaccin	how can i enable wlan in kubuntu, when it just works in ubuntu???	14:27
jxxt	kachna, i cant>>	14:29
Kachna	pretty bad :-( i can play sound only..using smplayer..cna play rm files in realplay, but can't get my subtitles working there :-	14:30
Kachna	(	14:30
xcieja	jestpolak	14:31
xcieja	?	14:32
yaccin_	anyone?	14:32
yaccin_	wlan works now, but no wpa	14:32
yaccin_	(which worked in ubuntu/gnome just fine)	14:32
anto	Can somone help me fix my gtk widgets they are so dam ugly -> http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/files/testgtk.png	14:33
ctonio	hola buenas	14:33
Kachna	k,so,anyone knows how to convert .rm to .avi? :P mpeg or so	14:34
JackWinter	what is the best way of filesharing between 2 kubuntu computers ? nfs?	14:34
JackWinter	or maybe smb?	14:34
anto	http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder	14:35
anto	Kachna: http://www.thugsatbay.com/tab/?q=tab-video-converter-encoder	14:35
Kachna	anto: cool,thx a lot ;)	14:35
anto	Kachna: no problems it just took me 2 second on google with the correct keywords :P	14:36
Kachna	damn thought I'm a good googler :P	14:36
iceEra	how do i add a network printer?	14:37
anto	Kachna: how to search google is not to write a sentence but the key words in it	14:37
Kachna	i know :-)	14:37
anto	linux convert rm to avi	14:37
anto	is what i used	14:38
Kachna	similar here...dunno exactly :P	14:38
anto	:P	14:38
anto	Anyone here that can help me with my gtk problem?	14:38
Kachna	however, i kinda work in company that aims for search engines optimisation,so i should learn that all :P	14:39
anto	haha okej :P	14:39
asktoby_	I note that gspca-source, the driver for my webcam, is in the repositories.	14:41
asktoby_	If I install it from there, how would I go about building it?	14:41
asktoby_	What is the benefit over just downloading the tarball from the dev's website?	14:41
yaccin_	how can i use wpa in kubuntu/kde when it worked un ubuntu/gnome?	14:43
emilsedgh	asktoby_: you should compile it of you het the source.to compile it you need hundreds of -devel packages that have nothing for you	14:44
emilsedgh	s/het/get	14:45
somekool	I am trying to install the kde4rc1 packages on kubuntu but I am getting some error, few packages are missing or something...	14:57
zarath	After resizing an NTFS partition I get the following error: 'current ntfs volume size is bigger than the device size'. It cannot be mounted any more. It won't boot into WinXP either (but my Linux partition is fine). What tools can I use to try to fix the errors or recover some data?	15:01
Hizzle	Do I need to format c: myself if I am to switch vista with kubuntu or is there a way I can do that with the cd?	15:05
Hizzle	c: = harddrive	15:05
Radi01	Hizzle: if all you are installing is ubuntu/chose full partition on installation.	15:06
asktoby_	emilsedgh: I understand that I will need to compile it - I guess my question is what is the benefit of installing source via apt rather than downloading a tarball?	15:06
Hizzle	hmm dont remember seeing that option on bootup	15:07
Radi01	Will it be the only o/s on the drive?	15:07
Hizzle	ya	15:07
Radi01	Then when you get to partition click (manual/full) it will do the whole drive automatically/easy as pie.	15:08
Hizzle	now the install update cd is that a cd I have to provide or is that something I can get offline? Just curious	15:09
Radi01	do the install od o/s first the rest can be done online.	15:10
Radi01	of	15:10
jembouge	hi there, I installed kubuntu 7.10 and kdm is displaying this : http://jujufouq.free.fr/fichiers/kdm.jpg	15:11
jembouge	anyone can help?	15:11
Radi01	Just make sure your internet is functional when you install the o/s so it can read mirror info and see what you are doing /so it can make proper adjustments.	15:11
pierreth	What are you using to import CDs?	15:12
Hizzle	lol ya thats a good thing to do, glad I forgot	15:12
Hamra	jembouge: im sorry i cant be of much help, but this used to happen with me when i boot kubuntu on my boss' PC, never knew hot to solve it though!	15:15
Hamra	how*	15:15
pechan	hey	15:16
pechan	ayuda	15:16
pechan	alguien me ayude	15:16
Xplicit	are there any programs that can remote desktop connect to a vista machine (i mean the default vista service not installing vnc or another 3rd party)	15:16
pechan	porfavoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor	15:16
Xplicit	!es	15:16
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.	15:16
Radi01	lol	15:16
didoman	quelqu'un peut me dire comment installer le comilateur gcc je l'ai telechargé avec l'adept mais rien a faire	15:19
jembouge	Hamra: ya kdm (when working) is really cool, and that's great to advertise Linux to friends	15:19
jembouge	didoman: t'as juste téléchargé sans lui demander d'installer?	15:20
didoman	mais normalement il installe automatiquement	15:20
jembouge	Hamra: did you find any ressource on the internet concerning that matter? cause I find nothing nowhere	15:21
jembouge	didoman: bah oui, d'où mon étonnement.	15:21
jembouge	Perso, je n'utilise pas adept	15:21
jembouge	essaye par ligne de commande	15:21
jembouge	apt-get install ...	15:22
jembouge	ou sinon (ce que j'utilise souvent) c'est synaptic	15:22
didoman	ok merci jembouge	15:22
jembouge	pas de koi	15:22
smooker	anyone know where is G++ after i install it ?	15:23
smooker	or how to start it	15:24
smooker	?	15:24
somekool	type g++	15:24
yaccin	anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/	15:24
somekool	I have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/	15:24
jembouge	smooker: if you use synaptic, you can get that kind of info by selecting the package, right-click and properties	15:25
yuanjin	Hello	15:28
yuanjin	Anyone here?	15:29
Radi01	Whats up.	15:30
yuanjin	I meet a problem when I installed a software, which called Cn3D.	15:31
Hamra	jembouge: i didnt even search, well, kdm is really cool, and it works fine on all of the PCs i've encountered so far, it's only my Boss' one, i'm not sure about this, but i think it's the LCD, since my PC has the same exact hardware except the monitor!	15:31
yaccin	anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/	15:33
yuanjin	It always show me ¨core dumped¨ when I try to run the program	15:33
smooker	stil i cant start G++	15:33
smooker	i used adept to install	15:33
yaccin	smooker: sudo apt-get install build-essential	15:33
yuanjin	Could anyone give me some advice?	15:35
smooker	then what ?	15:35
yaccin	smooker: to run g++ just use the command gcc	15:35
smooker	gcc: no input files	15:36
yaccin	man gcc	15:37
yaccin	what are you trying to do?	15:37
Radi01	yuanjin: tru #ubuntu	15:37
jembouge	Hamra: I used to use debian with KDE and KDM, also tried Mandriva (and Mandrake before) and other distros, and I never had this problem before	15:37
Radi01	try	15:37
yaccin	anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/	15:38
jembouge	Hamra: I'm wondering whether this isn't because of the X11 server...	15:38
jembouge	Hamra: the background picture is set to scale to fit the screen	15:38
jembouge	Hamra: (this is what I think I found in a file)	15:38
smooker	k	15:38
smooker	but Gcc doesnt want to start	15:39
niko_	hi to all	15:39
jembouge	Hamra: Everywhere I can read, the text size is properly defined and set to something small.	15:39
niko_	i need help to correctly install compiz	15:39
niko_	fusion	15:39
yaccin	smooker: what are you trying to do?	15:39
jembouge	Hamra: thanks for your help, I'll go on digging	15:40
Hamra	jembouge: sorry for not being so helpful	15:40
smooker	to start the compiler GCC	15:40
yaccin	smooker: what do you want to compile?	15:41
Radi01	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358193	15:41
Radi01	G++	15:41
jembouge	Hamra: no problem, I'm not very helpful either you know :p Good to try. Anyway, atm I just bypass KDM with automatic logon.	15:42
jhutchins	!build \| smooker	15:42
ubotu	smooker: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	15:42
somekool	I have dependency problem with ubuntu .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/	15:42
yaccin	smooker: gcc youryourcode.cpp	15:42
somekool	I have dependency problem with ubuntu since I tried installing KDE4 .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46580/	15:42
jhutchins	somekool: No need to repeat yourself. KDE4 is not a stable release.	15:42
jembouge	Hamra: I just need KDM to show off to my friends who are still running non-open-source software.	15:43
niko_	no one can help me?	15:43
Radi01	about what.	15:43
niko_	compiz fusion	15:43
jembouge	niko_ : installing the packages is quite easy, but I didn't find where to go to activate it... sorry	15:43
Radi01	not work or what	15:43
jembouge	I'd be interested in it btw if someone could tell	15:44
Radi01	compriz config from synapt	15:44
jhutchins	niko_: #compiz	15:44
magical_trevsky	hi, does anyone know why audiocd:/ in konqueror doesn't seem to have a flac folder anymore in gutsy?	15:46
somekool	jhutchins: that's right. but now I cannot install anything anymore. its like apt-get is broken...	15:46
jhutchins	!aptfix \| somekool	15:47
ubotu	somekool: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	15:47
niko_	i'm back	15:47
niko_	compiz needs Xgl?	15:47
yaccin	anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/	15:48
smooker	is there any other good program like compiz ?	15:48
yaccin	smooker: yes, you can also use vista or leopard	15:48
Radi01	leopard is macs version of vista...not good.	15:49
jembouge	hey yaccin you're not talking linux software	15:49
smooker	vista and leopard are os's i think	15:49
jembouge	indeed	15:49
yaccin	jembouge: :P	15:49
jembouge	there's something called "mesa" or so	15:49
niko_	some one can help me with compiz fusion?	15:49
jembouge	:p	15:49
niko_	i'm on kubuntu	15:49
niko_	7.1	15:49
yuanjin	me too	15:49
tarin	does anyone else have trouble starting konversation in gutsy?	15:50
jembouge	no	15:50
yaccin	niko_: sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-* compizconfig-settings-manager	15:50
jembouge	tarin: never got any pb with Konversation	15:50
yuanjin	either	15:50
Blissex	smooker: Beryl and Matisse and Looking Glass and a few others.	15:50
yaccin	tarin: no	15:50
niko_	i've done	15:50
niko_	before reformatting all	15:50
yaccin	i only have problems with WPA, which worked fine when i used gnome o.O	15:50
yuanjin	I had tried that before	15:50
smooker	where do i get Beryl ?	15:51
tarin	hmmmm	15:51
jembouge	yaccin: I did that too, but I can't find the way to actually activate it	15:51
Radi01	beryl is not supported its now compriz	15:51
[ifr0g]	Hi, Whats the reason be hide the windows boot phenomena for wireless card power ups ?	15:51
yaccin	alt + F2 > "compiz --replace"	15:51
somekool	jhutchins: did not work	15:51
Blissex	smooker: Google it -- but it is getting merged with Compiz actually.	15:51
niko_	but i know	15:51
smooker	so i dont have to uninstal compiz ?	15:51
yaccin	smooker: compiz + beryl = compiz fusion	15:52
yaccin	they merged	15:52
yaccin	if you have compiz then you have compiz fusion	15:52
niko_	yaccin	15:52
smooker	ive just installed fustion plugins from apt	15:53
Hamra	hi, in display manager, when i press the test button, if everything went ok, what am i supposed to see? what happens? coz im not sure if things are right with me.	15:53
sparr_	many hard drives used to store particular types of files. one for music, one for movies, etc. I want to access their contents (nice directory hierarchies) as if they were subdirectories of one location. I tried symlinks, but they fail when relative paths go above the symlinked structure. Is there any better way short of actually mounting the driives where I want to access them?	15:55
jhutchins	sparr_: Why wouldn't you do exactly that?	15:56
sparr_	jhutchins: because mounting things at random points in the filesystem seems like bad form, especially when they are already mounted elsewhere. also because it would require moving things to the top level of the drives, instead of having the same base hierarchy on some of them	15:57
jhutchins	Ok, so you need to effectively mount a subdirectory of the drive in a filesystem.	15:58
jhutchins	sparr_: Read up on the docs for the mount command, this can be done.	15:58
sparr_	mount --bind ?	15:58
sparr_	also, it will pollute my mtab	15:59
flake	what is that bar at the bottom of the pic called, like from what package? http://linuxappfinder.com/screenshot_viewer/all/1875_avast_update	16:00
Hamra	now that you mentioned mounting, how can i mount a CD image?	16:00
sparr_	Hamra: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/iso	16:00
sparr_	after mkdir /media/iso	16:00
sparr_	and with sudo :)	16:00
niko_	i'm in trouble with fstab	16:03
niko_	it doesn't male me write	16:03
niko_	make	16:03
niko_	UUID=E498-244C /media/sda1 vfat defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1	16:04
Hamra	thnx sparr_	16:04
niko_	is correct?	16:04
sparr_	that UUID seems short	16:05
yaccin	anyone can help me to get WPA working? it works with gnome :/	16:06
maduser	what kind of wirells card do you have?	16:06
smooker	guys how do u get working the compizfusion Animations ?	16:07
Radi01	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo	16:07
yaccin	maduser: an usb stick	16:07
yaccin	Radi01: i tried that	16:07
maduser	never mind	16:07
yaccin	in gnome its just plug and play and it works with wpa	16:07
maduser	i only know how to fix broadcom	16:07
yaccin	on kde i plug it in and it only works without encryption	16:08
maduser	you might have to google it	16:08
Radi01	ya	16:08
Radi01	http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832	16:10
Radi01	encryption in kde	16:10
Lynoure	Radi01: knetwork-manager does those too...	16:12
Radi01	I didn't know/Just googling with common sense with app application.	16:13
yaccin	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo/Kubuntu << doesnt work	16:13
Radi01	Google your (problem).	16:14
yaccin	i did	16:14
yaccin	thats the best thing i found	16:14
maduser	theres better	16:14
Radi01	butter?	16:15
Lynoure	yaccin: Tell me what happens instead of working?	16:15
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yaccin	Lynoure: it works but only without encryption	16:16
yaccin	when i switch to gnome encryption (WPA) works	16:16
Lynoure	yaccin: you still see the encrypted wifis?	16:16
yaccin	yes	16:16
Paddy_EIRE	hey guys... what is a good mail notifier daemon for kde?.. I'm used to cgmail on gnome if this will work fine in kde then great otherwise let me know of anything that comes highly recommended..	16:16
Lynoure	But cannot connect to them?	16:16
yaccin	and i have to enter the password	16:16
yaccin	and then it stops at ~28%	16:16
Paddy_EIRE	hey Lynoure	16:17
Radi01	I never used wireless/but isn't there simple on and off settings?	16:17
Lynoure	yaccin: tried restarting knetworkmanager already?	16:17
yaccin	Lynoure: i also tried rebooting	16:17
stdin	Paddy_EIRE: something like "kcheckgmail - KDE systray application to check GMail accounts" ?	16:18
Paddy_EIRE	thanks man	16:18
Lynoure	yaccin: interfaces commented out from /etc/network/interfaces?	16:18
Radi01	good point	16:19
yaccin	Lynoure: i am currently online using wlan...	16:20
yaccin	but its not encrypted	16:20
yaccin	i can only use WPA when im in gnome	16:20
Lynoure	yaccin: different wlan, then?	16:20
yaccin	Lynoure: no :)	16:21
yaccin	i have a fonero router	16:21
Radi01	log time	16:21
yaccin	it has 2 channels	16:21
yaccin	1 with WPA and a Free, unencrypted one	16:21
yaccin	both work in gnome	16:21
yaccin	but when i switch to kde the WPA channel doesnt work	16:21
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Radi01	How goes it Hizzle.	16:21
Hizzle	got it up and running just figuring stuff out	16:22
Radi01	nice	16:22
Hizzle	chatting off konversation was trying to download xchat but dont understand the whole rpm thing	16:22
Hizzle	.rpm*	16:22
remotechief_311	How can I create a link to trash?	16:23
Lynoure	yaccin: I can tell you that wifi wpa works for me in kubuntu under knetwork-manager... but I think it took commenting out those interfaces	16:23
yaccin	Hizzle: rpm?	16:23
yaccin	Lynoure: but why do the then work in gnome?	16:23
yaccin	and where do i have to comment it out?	16:23
yaccin	and... well am i not currently using the interface=	16:24
Hizzle	I clicked download xchat for fedora because it was only linux download there and has a bunch of .rpm files there	16:24
yaccin	?	16:24
Lynoure	yaccin: I don't use gnome, I can just tell it works for me...	16:24
Radi01	Hizzle get it fro add/remove to make it simple.	16:24
Radi01	from	16:24
yaccin	Lynoure: where would i have to comment them out?	16:25
Radi01	Pidgin is simple and easy to use for beginners of ubuntu.	16:25
Lynoure	yaccin: well, if your /etc/network/intefaces no longer has other interfaces that loopback, that part is fine :)	16:25
remotechief_311	trash:/ , is that right?	16:25
yaccin	Lynoure: it has eht0 (normnal network) and eth1 (wlan)	16:25
yaccin	and i am in this chat using wlan	16:25
yaccin	i removed the network cable :)	16:25
soulrider	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3878146#post3878146 if someone knows please answer	16:26
Lynoure	yaccin: Sometimes you need to break a little to fix a little, try commenting at least eth1 out, and restarting networkmanager (or just rebooting). If it does not help, you can easily uncomment them again	16:27
yaccin	but i want to easily switch between wireless and wired network :/	16:27
jembouge	remotechief_311: link to trash is "trash:/" :)	16:27
Lynoure	yaccin: then comment out both	16:27
Lynoure	yaccin: knetwork-manager deals with that automatically then	16:28
remotechief_311	jembouge: ok, thanks	16:28
yaccin	Lynoure: i wouldnt have any network then? o.O	16:28
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Hamra	how can i make numlock to be "on" on startup?	16:29
Lynoure	yaccin: Yes, you would. It just cannot configure interfaces that are already defined	16:29
yaccin	hmm ok ill try taht	16:29
Lynoure	yaccin: and see what I said about uncommenting	16:29
Radi01	Lynoure: Thanks.	16:30
Radi01	I am lost there.	16:30
jembouge	remotechief_311 there's another (and better) way though	16:30
Lynoure	Radi01: hmm?	16:30
jembouge	have a look at http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/how-to-add-the-trash-can-to-your-kubuntu-desktop/	16:30
jembouge	probably doesn't work somewhere else but on the desktop	16:31
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Radi01	I am just learning linux/It appears that linix is more logical than bill gates.	16:32
Radi01	apt-get uninstall./bill gates.	16:32
emilsedgh	hehe	16:32
vincent__	^^	16:33
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yaccin	apt-get remove	16:33
yaccin	not uninstall	16:33
yaccin	:P	16:33
Lynoure	Radi01: I would not bet on it, always :)	16:33
Radi01	Agreed/but when the linux community (and it is) catches up/bill will be wearing a sign/will work for bytes.	16:34
RurouniJones	Not in this lifetime	16:35
RurouniJones	Much as it would make me laugh to watch	16:35
Radi01	Interesting , leaopard is vista in mac form...	16:38
Radi01	total trash	16:38
Radi01	google it.	16:39
Lynoure	yaccin: you could also try connecting to your wpa trough "connect to other wireless network" and filling in the details.	16:44
jembouge	hi again, anyone know why I have that file "debian_version" with the line "lenny/sid" in it although I was installing GutsyGibbon?	16:45
stdin	jembouge: it's just a remnant, Kubuntu us derived from Debian	16:46
stdin	s/us/is/	16:46
viajador	Hi there! I'm having a charset issue with an external drive. It doesn't recognize symbols like "à" or "õ"	16:49
viajador	Can someone help me with this?	16:49
Lynoure	viajador: what filesystem does it have?	16:50
viajador	ntfs	16:50
jembouge	oh ok thanks stdin (I should have remembered I saw Lenny when running debian - but I ran the last one which isn't if I'm not mistaking)	16:50
viajador	But i have the same FS in my windows partition and everything works there!	16:50
Hamra	i have a problem similar to viajador's problem, i have a cd with files having arabic names, i see them as dashes	16:56
Paddy_EIRE	!touchpad	16:57
ubotu	For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad	16:57
Hizzle	trying to install xchat is kinda hard since I dont really know what I am doing, it downloads as a .rpm file and I tried using the add/remove programs but it dont show up under search	16:59
Hamra	why do most companies use rpm? isnt debian more widespread? or maybe rpm packages are easier to build?	17:00
Lynoure	Hizzle: Why would you install xchat from a .rpm?	17:01
Hizzle	I dont know	17:01
Hizzle	it says download xchat and has linux and windows link	17:01
Hizzle	I hit linux	17:02
Lynoure	Certainly there is one natively for ubuntu, too.	17:02
Radi01	Hizzle is new?he needs simple walk throughs.	17:02
Hizzle	and all there are is .rpm's	17:02
Hizzle	ya I am a noob sorry need to get a linux book	17:02
Lynoure	Hizzle: try sudo aptitude install xchat instead	17:02
Radi01	Hizzle: in terminal type sudo apt-get update come back with report	17:02
Lynoure	Hizzle: it's ok, everything new takes its time	17:03
stdin	tip: don't paste anything longer than 2-3 lines here, use pastebin instead	17:03
Hizzle	Radi01: msged you with results so I dont flood channel	17:04
Radi01	dpkg --configure -a	17:05
stdin	sudo ^	17:06
Radi01	sudo dpkg --configure -a	17:06
Radi01	thx	17:06
Cannoli	guys	17:07
Radi01	@ the prompt enter (y) and ...enjoy.	17:07
Cannoli	i need major help	17:07
Lynoure	Cannoli: Ask away	17:08
didoman	how to edit the contain of LD_LIBRARY_PATH ???	17:08
Cannoli	i installed the ati drvier for kubuntu and now when i boot up my computer the first version of linux shows a blank screen and the second version of linux has a giant black bar covering most of the left side	17:08
Cannoli	should i get rid of the driver? or what do i do now?	17:08
stdin	didoman: "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/you/want:/another/path/you/want"	17:08
Hizzle	Radi01: what should I try next?	17:09
BluesKaj	Howdy folks	17:09
Radi01	did you sudo dpkg --configure -a ?	17:09
MementoMori	hi	17:09
MementoMori	where sudo/kdesudo commands are logged?	17:09
BluesKaj	almost snowed in here	17:09
Radi01	hizzle	17:10
Hizzle	ya just did it sorry missed that msg up there but this is what I got	17:10
Hizzle	Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main T ranslation-en_US	17:10
Hizzle	Ign cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restri cted Translation-en_US	17:10
Hizzle	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)	17:10
Hizzle	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?	17:10
Radi01	oi	17:10
Hizzle	damn sorry	17:10
Hizzle	one sec	17:10
Hizzle	dpkg: status database area is locked by another process	17:11
Hizzle	still used to ctrl+C for copy	17:11
Radi01	Hizzle	17:11
Radi01	lol	17:12
BluesKaj	!adeptfix \| Hizzle	17:12
ubotu	Hizzle: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	17:12
Cannoli	anyone?	17:12
stdin	MementoMori: /var/log/auth.log search for "sudo:"	17:12
Radi01	do that Hizzle	17:12
didoman	stdin :can u rxecute this command for me "env \| grep LD_LIBRARY_PATH" plz	17:12
stdin	didoman: I don't have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set	17:13
Radi01	sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	17:13
MementoMori	stdin: thank you	17:13
stdin	Cannoli: if it's not working, there's little else to do but remove it and/or switch to the "ati" driver	17:13
Hizzle	alright did that	17:14
Cannoli	ok so how can i remove the ati driver from both versions of linux	17:14
stdin	Cannoli: remove the package, or if you have gutsy use the restricted drivers manager	17:15
Radi01	try alt+f2	17:16
Radi01	xchat	17:16
asfak	I cannot run 3d games on my kubuntu gutsy. I have installed nvidia legacy driver as usual. Restricted manager shows the driver in use. I get this message when i start some games from konsole "OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'"	17:16
Hizzle	says cannot run specified command	17:17
Radi01	try in terminal to see any possible errors	17:17
stdin	asfak: do you have "Load "glx"" under "Section "Module"" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?	17:17
Radi01	xchat	17:17
asfak	let me check	17:18
asfak	stdin, glx is already there in modules	17:19
Hizzle	says that it is not installed and I can get it by typing sudo apt-get install xchat which I did then it says I need to get a program called universe b ut typed that command said different stuff it was doing then said cannot find package xchat	17:20
Hizzle	(said I needed a program called universe before I typed the install command not afterwards)	17:21
stdin	asfak: and does "glxinfo \|grep direct" show "direct rendering: Yes" ?	17:21
Mergitur	Hi, I followed the instructions for how to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10. About halfway through I got an error involving kdepim and kmail not being able to upgrade, and eventually the entire upgrade shut down. Is there any easy way for me to get the upgrade working or will I have to do a reinstall to get to 7.10?	17:21
asfak	no,	17:21
jhutchins	Hizzle: I don't think universe is a program, I think it's a repository.	17:21
MementoMori	In my kubuntu I have 62 groups. Most of them are system groups. Where can I find their meaning and what are supposed to do?	17:21
Hizzle	ya says I need to enable the component	17:22
stdin	asfak: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin then please	17:22
jhutchins	!repos \| Hizzle	17:22
ubotu	Hizzle: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	17:22
[GuS]	schusselkopp: ?	17:22
Radi01	in add/remove...click at the top (all).	17:22
sylvain-fr	hi all	17:22
MementoMori	!groups	17:22
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	17:22
sylvain-fr	can someone help me please ?	17:23
asfak	stdin, i am new to IRC, can u please help, how to post to pastebin ?	17:23
Radi01	then click internet and click xchat	17:23
sylvain-fr	my question is about filesystems	17:23
stdin	!paste \| asfak	17:23
ubotu	asfak: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	17:23
Hizzle	I dont see anything an all button	17:23
jhutchins	MementoMori: Start here: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/	17:23
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MementoMori	jhutchins: thank you	17:24
sylvain-fr	Is there any File System which both Linux and BSD can read and write ?	17:24
jhutchins	Hizzle: When ubotu refers you to a web page it's because the answer to your question is too complex to post here easily. You should at least skim the web page before proceeding.	17:24
stdin	sylvain-fr: can't bsd write to ext2/3 ?	17:25
Radi01	@ the top you will see. anysuite..click it and click (all)	17:25
jhutchins	sylvain-fr: There are few if any that they both can not read and write.	17:25
asfak	stdin, i am on very slow dial-up network, so i will take time. ...	17:25
sylvain-fr	ok, thanks	17:25
Hizzle	jhutchins: I am trying to do that at the same time listening to radi01	17:26
sylvain-fr	so Linux and BSD can read and write ext3	17:26
Hizzle	I just get KDE and GNOME nothing else besides anysuite	17:26
Radi01	no arrow with it?	17:26
sylvain-fr	and what about BSD's default FS ? Can I install BSD on an ext3 FS ?	17:27
asfak	stdin , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46589/	17:27
stdin	sylvain-fr: it's best to ask that in a BSD channel, I'd assume that it can	17:27
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Hizzle	there is an arrow next to it but just KDE and GNOME for options	17:27
Radi01	oi I have no idea then never encountered that one..sry.	17:28
sylvain-fr	is there a BSD chan here ?	17:28
Hizzle	lol its np thanks for helping me this far	17:28
Radi01	try re-booting since you changed registry	17:28
Hizzle	k will try that	17:28
stdin	sylvain-fr: what variant of BSD?	17:28
sylvain-fr	FreeBSD	17:29
* seelenschmerz ist jetzt AWAY (grund: bin mal etwas tv schauen ......ist eh nirgends was los ...........)		17:29
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stdin	sylvain-fr: ##freebsd	17:29
stdin	!away > seele\|afk	17:29
sylvain-fr	thanks	17:29
asfak	stdin, did u see my xorg ?	17:30
sylvain-fr	?? when I try yo join, I get this message : "[Canal] You need to be identified to join that channel"	17:30
stdin	asfak: I'm looking at it	17:30
ksal	hi	17:30
ksal	my HP deskjet 3325 doesn't want to work on mu gutsy	17:30
ksal	my*	17:30
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stdin	!resister \| sylvain-fr, follow these instructions	17:30
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about resister - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	17:30
stdin	bah	17:31
sylvain-fr	!resister	17:31
ksal	system can't even find it.	17:31
stdin	!register \| sylvain-fr, follow these instructions	17:31
ubotu	sylvain-fr, follow these instructions: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration	17:31
ksal	can someone help me?	17:31
ksal	i had no problem on fedora	17:31
stdin	asfak: changing it to this should work hopefully http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46591/	17:32
asfak	ok	17:32
sylvain-fr	erf	17:32
ksal	kubuntu is known of great ability to find any device and automatically configure it. what's with that printer then?	17:32
sylvain-fr	thank you	17:32
stdin	!print \| ksal	17:32
ubotu	ksal: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows	17:32
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MementoMori	jhutchins: thank you for your previous link but it does not explain at all linux system groups	17:34
sylvain-fr	thank you stdin	17:35
sylvain-fr	bye	17:35
stdin	bye	17:35
emilsedgh	aah	17:35
Radi01	stdin: sorry about the hard time I gave you earlier.	17:36
jhutchins	MementoMori: You can't have read it all yet.	17:37
jhutchins	MementoMori: Besides, there's more.	17:37
ksal	geez	17:37
ksal	it doesn't help me!	17:37
ksal	stdin: i have everything installed	17:37
jhutchins	MementoMori: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/ch-acctsgrps.html	17:37
jhutchins	MementoMori: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-8.0-Manual/admin-primer/ch-acctsgrps.html	17:38
stdin	wow, power went "poof" for a sec :p	17:38
jhutchins	(woops)	17:38
jhutchins	MementoMori: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-users.html	17:38
Radi01	stdin: sorry about the hard time I gave you earlier.	17:38
stdin	Radi01: did you?	17:39
Radi01	k	17:39
stdin	really, I don't remember :p	17:39
jhutchins	MementoMori: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/linux/news/linuxanatomy_0101.html	17:39
Radi01	The upside down text?	17:39
jhutchins	ksal: go to the cups web page and look for your printer model to see if it is supported.	17:40
stdin	Radi01: I remember the upside-down text, just not the "hard time"	17:40
tiezzi	ciao a tutti	17:40
stdin	!it	17:40
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	17:40
ksal	jhutchins: geez, it is supported!	17:40
ksal	you won't help me, bye	17:41
MementoMori	jhutchins: I read the relevant parts (searching for groups I havent read the filsystem chapter). but thank you for that list!	17:41
jhutchins	ksal: k, no problem then.	17:41
SoulChild	HI ALL! How must i configure grub to load vista from my extended device /dev/sda5 ???	17:41
sigma_	how do i share a gprs internet connection in kubuntu? from my pc to others on the network	17:41
maduser	vista as defult?	17:41
sigma_	windows had a simple sharing dialog, don't see that anywhere in kubuntu	17:42
jhutchins	MementoMori: RedHat made it a standard to have each user be primarily a member of his own group. Other systems have them be members of "users" or something like that. Many programs use groups for cross-program access (ie a program running as a member of the apache group has access to web pages).	17:42
jhutchins	MementoMori: There are also "traditional" groups that are holdovers from multi-user Unix mainframes. They're all included so that programs will be more portable.	17:43
Marchese	ciao	17:43
jhutchins	MementoMori: Usually system groups will have a GID of less than 500.	17:43
jhutchins	MementoMori: Depending on the system, for some it's 100, for others 1000.	17:43
warren_	hello	17:44
warren_	i need some help	17:44
trillis	Hey everyone...	17:44
trillis	Haha, me too.	17:44
warren_	i installed wine from source but it was buggy	17:44
stdin	sigma_: the way I did it a while ago was to install firestarter and use that to set it up	17:44
warren_	and now i would like to remove itr	17:44
warren_	but	17:44
warren_	i don't have the source anymore, i removed manually files	17:44
Radi01	hey trillis how did kopete work out.	17:44
trillis	sux0rz.	17:44
Radi01	oi	17:44
sigma_	warren: use the ubuntu deb if you want to install wine	17:44
warren_	and now when installing a deb package of it it doesn't work	17:44
trillis	Couldn't get it to load the AIM info, got everything else to work though.	17:45
warren_	yeah i know	17:45
warren_	but i didn't do it	17:45
sigma_	stdin: is firestarter available in the ubuntu repo's?	17:45
Radi01	Interesting.	17:45
stdin	sigma_: yeah	17:45
trillis	Hey stdin: Is there a way to make mplayer not have the white sides when watching a widescreen movie?	17:45
MementoMori	jhutchins: the info I'm looking for is: a user in the x group can do this this and this, a user in the y group can do this and that	17:46
stdin	trillis: never seen that, shows a black border for me	17:46
Radi01	trillis: vlc does the rest do not.	17:46
trillis	:(	17:46
trillis	I have an ati graphics card, could that be the problem?	17:46
Radi01	mozilla vlc plugin	17:46
jhutchins	MementoMori: Linux can also use acl's.	17:46
stdin	trillis: you can try using the "-aspect" and "-monitoraspect" options	17:46
Radi01	no	17:46
trillis	sudo apt-get install vlc-mozzila-plugin?	17:46
Radi01	ya	17:46
Radi01	i tried aspect..dont work	17:46
Radi01	aspect also screwed up x..	17:47
stdin	trillis: it's best to remove mozilla-mplayer before installing another plugin	17:47
MementoMori	jhutchins: for example: the first user created in the gusty installation is in admin and adm groups. What privileges gives adm to me?	17:47
sigma_	stdin: thanks il take a look, hope it works! i think that should be a applet in kubuntu that caters for file-sharing	17:47
jhutchins	Radi01: The options on mplayer are pretty complex (and very extensive), but just switching to vlc might be easier.	17:47
Radi01	good point..sry	17:47
jhutchins	MementoMori: For one thing the ability to use sudo.	17:48
Radi01	exactly	17:48
trillis	k...	17:48
stdin	sigma_: there is an applet for file sharing	17:48
trillis	So.. sudo apt-get uninstall mplayer?	17:48
jhutchins	MementoMori: In other distros that might be configured for the group "wheel".	17:48
sigma_	stdin: but it doesn't cater for internet sharing or does it?	17:48
stdin	trillis: mozilla-mplayer	17:48
trillis	k	17:48
MementoMori	jhutchins: but for the use of sudo I have to be in the admin group not in adm	17:48
stdin	sigma_: internet connection sharing isn't the same as file sharing	17:48
jhutchins	MementoMori: Thousands of programs, millions of programmers, a hundred different ways to do just about anything.	17:49
MementoMori	$ sudo grep "%adm" /etc/sudoers	17:49
MementoMori	%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL	17:49
stdin	sigma_: to share your internet connection you need to change/create some iptables rules, firestarter is a nice GUI for it	17:49
trillis	uninstall doesn't seem to be a command...	17:49
stdin	trillis: remove :)	17:50
Radi01	I dont know the -r command	17:50
sigma_	stdin: ya i read about the iptables stuff, didn't have a clue what those guys were going on about	17:50
trillis	heheh	17:50
MementoMori	jhutchins: ok but maybe I should check the LSB doc for a stardard view about groups...	17:50
MementoMori	shouldnt I?	17:50
stdin	sigma_: it's all extremely complicated :p	17:50
trillis	stdin: You should rename to 'God".	17:50
Radi01	hahaha	17:50
jhutchins	trillis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto	17:51
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stdin	trillis: nah, I don't want the attention ;)	17:51
jhutchins	sigma_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/	17:51
pidzam	hi all	17:51
sigma_	stdin: so thats how microsoft made so much cash :)	17:52
BluesKaj	stdin, how about linuxgod ? :)	17:52
stdin	BluesKaj: even worse :p	17:52
BluesKaj	; )	17:52
trillis	I want "sudo apt-get install vlc-mozilla-plugin?	17:52
stdin	use linux for >10 years and you'll probably know as mush as me :)	17:52
Radi01	Linux/gooru/god/dont ask again/ lol	17:52
MementoMori	jhutchins: by default I'm in adm dip video plugdev netdev powerdev groups and I dont know why... I only want to get this knowledge	17:53
Radi01	mozilla-vlc-plugin	17:53
trillis	ah	17:53
Mergitur	is there any wasy way to see if I've successfully upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 from 7.04? I had the upgrade process crash on me earlier about halfway through. I think I've got it now, but I'm not sure.	17:53
trillis	It still said no to me :()	17:53
trillis	:(	17:54
Radi01	I've been up 16 hrs tired.	17:54
asfak	stdin, thanks for the help, but nothing helps. i get this message	17:54
asfak	asfak@asfakpc:~$ neverball</