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Ominouskelsin: my domain name is resolving to the old ip00:00
sethklufis, nasty.00:00
ampmy Gyachi-E 1.1.0 works great ...except I cant get sound in the yahoo room tho??00:00
lufis:P00:00
kelsinprobably due to caching at your isp's nameserver?00:00
sethkOminous, probably caching at the name server end.00:00
kelsinOminous: dns changes take a while to propegate00:00
sethkOminous, when did you change it?00:00
amp I get this message saying00:00
amp“Cannot run gyvoice due to the following missing files:00:00
Ominousabout 1h ago00:00
sethkOminous, it can take up to 36 hours to propagate00:01
kelsinOminous: "dig your.web.address" to find out what your nameservers are responding with00:01
amptsd32.dll and  tssoft.acm .... are missing or not in the right folder or place ??00:01
operator011ls00:01
ampbut im in Ubuntu 7.10 gusty .... .deb00:01
operator011<sorry, wrong xterm>00:01
carnelainI get error message: could not connect to video device in camorama. But webcam works fine in cheese. Whats wrong?00:03
gmonneratsomebody use compiz and avant-window-navigator, the processing is very slow?00:04
Dr_willisi found avant-window-navigator a bit slow.. and well.. not very useable on my system. so i dident try it for more then 20 min.00:05
eth01would i be ok to uncomment this in sysctl.conf > net.ipv4.conf.default.rp_filter=100:05
echosystmguys, swiftfox vs. netscape 900:06
echosystmwhich would be quicker?00:06
wsv123456whats the link to video config00:07
Dr_willisechosystm,  ive never seen any decent info on how to even 'test/benchmark' how fast a browser is.00:07
melleryI'm having problems installing java, when I try to run a program i get an exception with java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError, I think i'm missing PATHS but I dont know what I need00:07
gmonneratDr_willis: when i use compiz and i am using firefox the system lock few seconds. i am using gutsy00:07
mellerycan anyone help?00:07
Dr_willisgmonnerat,   does it never lockup when you got compiz dissabled?00:08
kelsinmellery: you need your classpath env variable to contain whatever jar or file you need to run, what program are you trying to run?00:08
wsv123456how do I play a dvd in gutsy? What is the update or upgrade00:09
mellerykelsin, thanks for the reply, its reprap-host.sh00:09
kelsinmellery: you can also set the classpath on the java command line with the -cp flag, ussually java programs come with some sort of shell script to start them with the right classpath, where didyou install this from?00:09
melleryI got it from sourceforge00:09
jrib!dvd > wsv123456 (read the private message from ubotu)00:10
Tim__juano__, ok when I booted Ubuntu know it did ask me for the wpa, but it still didn't connect00:10
mellerykelsin: sourceforge00:10
jgroutwhats the best desklets app?00:10
juano__Tim__ ok, check to see if you have TKIP , did you select it ?00:11
kazoljgrout: gdesklets00:11
kelsinmellery: are you running it from the folder where reprap.jar is>00:11
kelsinmellery: ?00:11
mellerykelsin, yes00:11
juano__Tim__ when it connects it should show some blue bars instead of the ordinary network manager icon00:11
kazoljgrout: Check out gdesklets.de for more desklets.00:11
jgroutthanks00:11
kelsinmellery: did you install java from the ubuntu package? sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre?00:12
naelrcan anyone answer an ndiswrapper question for me00:12
Tim__juano__, no I selected WPA. yes I know how ir looks like when it works, but it only spins the balls on my install, except every tenth time or so, then it shows 1 blue bar but still doesn't work00:12
kazoljgrout: np; The GoodWeather desklet is very cool-you should check it out.00:12
jribnaelr: best to just ask the question and find out00:12
jgroutkazol: will do00:12
mellerykelsin, when I type java -cp I get -cp requires class path specification, and I'm using sun-java5-jre from the ubuntu repository00:12
goldbondwhich brand of graphics card should i chose for my linux box?00:13
naelrshould i need to recomplie ndsiwrapper for a newer kernel.. say 2.6.22 to 2.6.2400:13
Tim__juano__, under the livecd or when it used to work on my real install it alwys showed three bars after succesfully connecting00:13
carnelainI get error message: could not connect to video device in camorama. But webcam works fine in cheese. Whats wrong?00:13
kelsinmellery: well in this case the program is only one jar and it's specified in the sh script with -jar on the command line, so defining a classpath isn't your issue in this case00:13
Tim__juano__, so I should look whether I can select TKIP and try it with that?00:13
gmonneratDr_willis: Once or twice, but when it is with compiz and avant-window-navigator occurs more often . i don't believe that this occurs because of compiz or avant , but occurs more often00:13
kazoljgrout: http://www.gdesklets.de/index.php?q=desklet/view/171 <Highly recommend this00:13
mellerykelsin: the script has java -Xmx384M -jar Reprap.jar00:14
juano__Tim__ yes cause if your router is configured with WPA/WPA2 with TKIP there is an option in the same connect prompt window below the menu where you select wpa which lets you select TKIP00:14
kelsinmellery: I know, I just downloaded it, so the error is this javax/vecmath/Tuple3d error?00:15
Tim__juano__, ok I'll try it out, and report after rebootin...00:15
mellerykelsin, correct00:15
tony_mathStill having a problem with Synaptic freezing when I try to save settings using the preferences dialog.00:15
gamemellery: asl?00:16
gametony_math: what version do you have00:17
john-mikeHey there, I was wondering.  Is it safe to update Feisty's video driver to the new ATI one?  My computer has the ATI x1400 video card and I know that's always had issues with Ubuntu.00:17
jgroutkazol: is the location code my zip?00:17
* Pelo wonders who gave FloodBot1 ops 00:17
gamefi you can do it go for it00:17
Pelojohn-mike,  you can try , do you know how to recover if it doesn't work ?00:17
naelrshould i need to recomplie ndsiwrapper for a newer kernel.. say 2.6.22 to 2.6.2400:17
john-mikeNo :(00:17
Q_Continuumjohn-mike: back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and give it a try.  (backing up that file means you can restore to your existing setup)00:17
Pelojohn-mike, boot the recovery mode and enter  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the vesa driver, then you will be able to boot gui and reinstall the driver you had before00:18
KnickLighterHi everyone00:18
KnickLighterI got a little , big problem00:18
Q_Continuumjohn-mike, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backupYYYYMMDD00:18
KnickLighterI just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.1000:18
PeloKnickLighter, don't make us beg, just tell us what it is00:18
KnickLighterye i was starting00:19
KnickLighterso well00:19
jrib!enter | KnickLighter00:19
ubotuKnickLighter: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:19
KnickLighterBut I get errors, it wont start00:19
john-mikeAh, ok. thanks guys!00:19
KnickLighterOk ok here i go:00:19
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CaptainMorganjgrout, probably.. i have the x1300 and it wouldn't work00:19
game%C8 hello00:20
KnickLighterI just upgraded from 7.04 to 7.10, but I get errors, it won't start, like : Exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen - and Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0 .. So it gets me to a shell called "busybox" which is useless to me.. I'd appreciate any help :)00:20
Babblehow do i get a list of irc channels in pidgen00:20
* Pelo has got to find a new way to spend his saturday evenings00:20
linux88knicklighter new install opr upgade00:20
PeloKnickLighter,  do you have your /home folder on a seperate partition ?00:20
KnickLighterhmmm no00:21
Babblen/m00:21
KnickLighterOn the main disk, where ubuntu is.00:21
PeloBabble,  try /list or /channel in the server window if there is such a thing in pidgin00:21
PeloKnickLighter, start by searching the error msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org , that might yeild some info00:22
kelsinmellery: yeah that vecmath library is not installed by default in ubuntu, trying to find out how to instlal it now, but I don't know00:22
LOGANhello, are there ubuntu flash ads available to use?00:22
JavidIs it true that I can just swap my hard drive with ubuntu on it into a whole other computer and it will, more or less, work?00:22
KnickLighterI tried google, But thank's ill take a look and let you guys know if it helped me00:22
Javidpeople who advertise with flash should be beaten with shovels00:22
mellerykelsin, thanks, i can find it, I know what the real problem is now. thanks for the help!00:22
PeloKnickLighter, but I am afraid you will need to reinstall,  making a seperate partiton and copying your /home folder to it will be of great help in the future for such cirucmstances00:22
tuxthepenguin533!source00:22
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html00:22
Dr_willisJavid,  i like it - its easier to block their ads. :)00:22
tuxthepenguin533how can i get ubuntus source code00:23
jribtuxthepenguin533: ubotu just told you00:23
PeloJavid, it might , I will say no more00:23
abcde_I am unable to get Tracker to search my drive.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?00:23
JavidDr_willis, makes no difference to me, but I suppose that may be true00:23
tony_mathgame: the version is 0.60ubuntu5. I'm running Gutsy00:23
JavidPelo, that's better than windows does, so it's good enough :]00:23
Dr_willisJavid,  i get so sick of those 'click the monkey' ads :)00:23
kelsinmellery: http://reprap.org/bin/view/Main/RepRapLinuxSoftware this might help00:23
JavidDr_willis, I have not seen an ad in years, firefox is my special love monkey00:23
kazoljgrout: Yes00:24
PeloJavid,  windows isn't even garantied to work in the same computer if you do nothing to it00:24
KnickLighterYea i thought of that too, Pelo00:24
Dr_willisJavid,  Shame! you are the reason the internet is going broke! :P00:24
KnickLighterI don't have much important things on my server.. Well, I might, but I don't think I will miss them.00:24
tuxthepenguin533how can i get ubuntus source code00:24
JavidPelo, this is true, but no linux drivers exist for my video capture hardware, so I may need to switch, I plan to just swap out the drives as needed rather than dualbooting00:24
Pelotuxthepenguin533, on the www.ubuntu.com site,  somewhere00:25
kexhey. is beryl in the respiratories? because i do not find it :(00:25
Javidkex, it was last I looked00:25
Tim__juano__, ok the apparantly the wpa was a one time thing, I rebooted a few times and it only asks me for wep again00:25
Javidkex, apt-cache search beryl00:25
kelsintuxthepenguin533: if you have an ubuntu install you can also get the source for any package with "apt-get source <package>"00:25
Tim__this is driving me crazy :(00:25
juano__Tim__ me too00:25
kexJavid, i dont find it in the synaptic, ok ill try that00:25
PeloJavid, you can use windows driver in ubuntu using ndiswrapper , not sure it will work for your videocapture hardware but it is worth exploring00:25
LOGANjust see on some website an ubuntu ad (a small movie, people pushing a chair with "you got better things to do at the office"00:25
tuxthepenguin533kelsin: where would the source code be placed00:25
juano__Tim__ so it appears randomly at boot-time00:26
LOGANare these ads available somewhere?00:26
kelsintuxthepenguin533: it will download the source code for the package into the current directory00:26
JavidPelo, ndis is for wireless drivers00:26
juano__Tim__ you login as same user everytime ?00:26
PeloJavid,  only ?00:26
kexJavid, that command gave me nothing00:26
Tim__juano__, yes00:26
kelsintuxthepenguin533: it does now save where it downloaded, just gives you the files, you can remove when you want etc00:26
JavidPelo, as far as I know, the 'n' means network00:26
Javidkex, where did you do that00:26
juano__Tim__ from windows you are able to connect to the wireless without and trouble ?00:26
kexJavid, terminal00:26
Tim__juano__, yes, and also from the ubuntu livecd00:27
Javidkex, you may not have the right repositories, ask in #ubuntu-effects00:27
LOGANi tried searching the ubuntu sie but did not get any search results00:27
PeloLOGAN, what were yo searching for ?00:27
kexJavid, ok thank you :)00:27
JavidI have about eight billion unofficial repositories added, so because I have it may mean nothing to others00:27
JavidI really need a script for this channel that will make my conversations with others go into PM-like windows so I can keep up with the spam x.x00:28
juano__Tim__ mm its amazing that you can connect from the livecd and not from your installed ubuntu...00:28
juano__Tim__ there is wpa_supplicant.conf file00:28
Tim__juano__, yep, it makes me believe that some config is broke in my home dir, but I have no idea what00:29
PeloJavid, make one, pearl is good for that00:29
kelsinJavid: as long as you and others you are conversing with include the nicknames at the front, most clients highlight lines nicely00:29
LOGANpelo I just seen an ubuntu advertisement on www.itbusinessedge.com some blog had a movie, Im looking for these movie ads for ubuntu00:29
Javidkelsin, I know this, I'm just feeling scripty00:29
juano__Tim__ yea that would be the most accurate... but still can't think of what00:29
JavidPelo, see above :D00:29
PeloLOGAN,  they may not be official00:29
JavidPelo, I hate perl, I'm gonna do it in mirc, wish xchat had a plugin for that00:29
_seanc_Hi, quick question.  I have a dual core processor, someone mentioned that I'd need to recompile my applications for dual core support, true or false?00:30
kelsinJavid: these is also a script for irssi that makes a highlight window that gets any hightlighted messages in it, can help out too00:30
Tim__juano__, where is that wpa_supplicant.conf?00:30
LOGANpelo but it was a great ad, does ubuntu have ads people can use?00:30
Shydetuxthepenguin533: without having checked: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/source/00:30
tritium_seanc_: false00:30
PeloJavid,  you can do python to , xchat handles it as well00:30
john-mikeHa ha, I'm back.  Ok, I updated the ATI driver.  How do I make sure that's what's being used by the computer right now?00:30
JavidPelo, I know xchat does everything imaginable, but it doesn't do mirc ^^00:30
PeloLOGAN,  not realy sure , I don't know that part of it , I'm just your basic helpfull home user00:30
LOGANI now see another ad of ubuntu with coffee mugs00:30
Javidlogan, on what page00:31
SwitchCasehi, ive just started using ubuntu... can someone help me? im running ms xp atm because im having trouble connecting to my wireles router using ubuntu... any help would be very much appreciated00:31
* Pelo woudn'T do mIRC if you paid him 00:31
tritium!wireless | SwitchCase00:31
ubotuSwitchCase: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:31
Tim__juano__, I will set up a new user account and test if it works with that one00:31
JavidPelo, I spent years with it, I have it doing things it really isn't supposed to, I love it00:31
SwitchCasethanks ubotu00:31
PeloLOGAN, check in the fridge section I think it is called, loads of user made stuff in there00:31
JavidPelo, I'm weird like that00:31
juano__Tim__ sure try that... i thought it was in the /etc/  there is a dir in /etc/ called wpa_supplicant but that file doesn't show up00:32
LOGANhttp://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/osb/index.php/blogs/osb/index.php it shows sometimes inhere00:32
naelrshould i need to recomplie ndsiwrapper for a newer kernel.. say 2.6.22 to 2.6.2400:32
PeloJavid,  complian to markham ( I think that's his name) get him to port to linux00:32
_seanc_tritium: sweet, so the applications will automatically utilize the dual core?00:32
LOGANI already seen 2 different ones00:32
kelsinLOGAN: you can find these videos on youtube also00:32
JavidPelo, it runs in wine, but a lot of the add-ons don't, no way around this00:32
PeloLOGAN, I assume if I have ad block plus I won't see it ?00:33
hellsdarkhi00:33
pablinhi00:33
Pelo!hi | hellsdark00:33
ubotuhellsdark: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!00:33
hellsdarkIs Somebody using rtorrent ?00:33
JavidPelo, I think we can generally rage against closed source software in general and call it good00:33
pablinhow to install soundblaster xi fi in ubuntu 7.0400:33
LOGANPelo : I dont know. I dont use adblocks :)00:34
tritium_seanc_: yes00:34
Javidpelo, logan, I don't see it either00:34
LOGANkelsin : aah thanks Ill check there. hope they are downloadable00:34
kelsinhellsdark: just ask your question00:34
deal_I've just installed all the extra effects with cube and such. But have not figured out yet how to wright with fire, anyone can help me ?00:34
PeloJavid,  I don't rage against close source, I have no problem with close source  I just tried ubuntu after years of bitching about windows and found it to be a pleasurable computing experience, so I stuck with it00:34
LOGANthey are mixed between IBM adds and other adds that rotate00:34
hellsdarki would like to use rtorrent via ssh but just in order to see the download status00:34
JavidPelo, me too, minus the bitching. I run about 50/50 ubuntu/xp on my computers00:35
kelsinhellsdark: I would use screen00:35
* Pelo 's got adblock+ and that thing that stops java and flash from starting automaticaly, browsing is now very enjoyable 00:35
kelsinhellsdark: you type screen, then once inside screen you run rtorrant and start your downloads, then you "disconnect" from this session by typing Ctrl-A D.00:35
hellsdarkkelsin: yes, but what about the rtorrent running ?00:35
Javidpelo, me too, plus user agent switcher, so people can't block me for that either00:35
deal_I'm still in rehab!! Windows get you hooked! Now I'm in rehab! And gonna stay (windows)clean from now on :-D00:35
kelsinhellsdark: later when you ssh in, you type "screen -r" and reconnect to that session00:35
hellsdarkkelsin: can i have several rtorrent running ?00:36
_seanc_tritium: you sir, are my hero.00:36
deal_I've just installed all the extra effects with cube and such. But have not figured out yet how to wright with fire, anyone can help me ?00:36
_seanc_thanks!00:36
riotkittiehmm. i wonder if my flash probs tie in with ab+00:36
kelsinhellsdark: why would you want to? :) but you could I guess00:36
john-mikeDoes anyone know how I can check what driver I'm using for my video card?00:36
riotkittiedeal_: err. fire/flame whatever plugin?00:36
crimsunnon-free Flash 9 is a PITA.00:36
PeloJavid,  I almost never boot xp anymore,  I just need to find a decent autocad alternative and i'll never boot windows again00:36
deal_riotkittie: Gimme 2 sec, I'll check.00:36
hellsdarkkelsin: in order to not disturb the rtorrent that is running, i don't want to close it :p00:36
riotkittiejohn-mike: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep -i driver00:36
kelsinhellsdark: rtorrent handles multiple torrent files simulatneously as it is00:36
danbhfivejohn-mike: i think you cant check your xorg.conf00:36
kelsinhellsdark: you mean the one that's running right now?00:36
hellsdarkkelsin: i know00:36
hellsdarkkelsin: yes00:36
HoboPrimateHey! anyone ever had problems with a broadcom wireless chip, which connects to the router but says in /var/log/messages "no IPv6 routers found" (no wonder, my router doesn't support ipv6, but my computer should then revert to ipv4, right?)00:37
kelsinhellsdark: just stop it with ctrl-q quickly, and then restart, it takes a second to get back up to speed, but it doesn't download anyhthing twice00:37
Javidpelo, hmm, my cad stuff runs in wine pretty well (better than on vista actually)00:37
deal_riotkittie: Directly translated from norwegian would be 'paint fire on screen' =)00:37
PeloJavid, acad does not run well on wine at all , what cad stuff ar you using ?00:37
brianskihowdy - it seems trackerd isn't indexing my emails. my tracker config has enablethunderbird set, tho - do i need to change the session so that it runs trackerd --enable-thunderbird too or somesuch?00:37
hellsdarkkelsin: kelsin hum i think i'll kill it and use screen as you said00:37
JavidPelo, a much simpler program built for the machines I use, it will run on just about anything win95+00:38
kelsinhellsdark: screen is a great great tool, look up some of the tutorials about it, it will help in MANY situations esp if you ssh alot, this irssi session is in screen for me, so when I go to work I just connect to it00:38
john-mikeHmmm...says 'fglrx'.  That's not the new ATI driver, is it?00:38
HoboPrimateI'm googling trying to find a workaround my problem, but just guessed someone here might have come across it before.00:38
Jan-RipplGood night00:38
hellsdarkkelsin: yep, i read about it. It just would be easier to launch another rtorrent to see my torrents00:38
riotkittiejohn-mike: errr. are you looking for actual version number?00:38
brianskijohn-mike: fglrx could be either the new ati driver or the old one, they are both called fglrx00:38
PeloJavid,  ah well,  I kind of have to keep up to date,  acad 2006 was a complete bust, acad 14 was very clunky,  I won'T even try 13 , it ran like crap on windows to begin with00:38
Jan-RipplAre You want listen my ubuntu radio?00:39
kelsinhellsdark: then you'd have to program rtorrant to find another version of itself on startup to just report status, since it doesn't have those features by default00:39
JavidPelo, I use a lot of older programs, like photoshop 7 and winamp200:39
john-mikeAh....well, I'm sure I'm probably running the new one then.  The system update doesn't show it as needing updating anymore.00:39
brianskiyou want to see 8.42.3 in the version string00:39
hellsdarkkelsin: yep ^^00:39
brianskibut i'll warn you you're still gonna be disappointed, amd has made a vast improvement but they have a long way to go to even come close to nvidia00:39
Jan-Ripplhttp://mokriny.cz:8000/listen.ogg00:39
mellerykelsin: I found the java3d.jar file the reprap page links to is really an html file not the real java3d.jar, that will fix my problem00:40
hellsdarkkelsin: it would be nice to have some commands to see the status00:40
spydonI can't ssh into my computer from outside my network. I have portforwarding on my router. Does anyone know how to solve this?00:40
PeloJavid,  I don't realy do raster and for what little knowledge of photoshop I had to begin with,  using gimp instead doesn'T make much of a difference for me00:40
riotkittieugh. back to X i go. brb00:40
sirbobI have having a problem with resolution00:40
kelsinspydon: you need to portforward port 22 to your internal ip, then just "ssh user@external.ip.address" from your outside location00:40
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JavidPelo, everyone I know in graphics would line up to defecate on the gimp's headstone, were it a person and not a program00:40
SwitchCaseIve read through the guide on wireless networking but the problem im having does not seem to be covered... can someone please help?00:40
sirbobI am at the right resolution, 1280x720, but the edges of the screen are cut off00:41
lars03hi. is ubuntu a good linux distribution for a beginner?00:41
spydonalready done that kelsin00:41
riotkittieweee. reason 317 that i love screen.00:41
Javidlars03, yes it is00:41
* Pelo 's got a torrent stuck at 99.9% and the swarm is stuck at 0.999, damit00:41
riotkittielars03: yes.00:41
kelsinlars03: compared to other linux's yes00:41
sirbobI am using a 42inch samsung tv00:41
spydonport start 22 port stop 22 server ip 192.168.1.39, kelsin00:41
Pelolars03,  yes it is , very freindly, use ubuntu not kubuntu to start with , you'll be very pleasantly surprised00:41
kelsinspydon: what msg are you getting when you try to ssh from outside?00:41
blackvdHi, I'm running VirtualBox w/ XP and every time before I can boot XP I have to change permissions to /dev/vboxdrv by running sudo nautilus in terminal then locating the file and change the permissions every time after reboot? is there an easier way to permanently change permission to files?00:41
riotkittiesirbob: wow, that has to suck. i'll trade you a 15" CRT.  because i'm kind.   <whistles innocently>00:42
digitalskyhi people00:42
spydonConnection refused00:42
spydonConnection refused00:42
spydonkelsin: connection refused00:42
Jan-Ripplhttp://mokriny.cz:8000/listen.ogg please00:42
riotkittieblackvd: did you add yourself to the virtualbox/vbox/whatever group?00:42
lars03should I get the latest version, 7.10?00:42
Peloblackvd,  that would be a question for the vbox ppl,  in #vbox or in #vb , not sure which00:42
SwitchCasecan someone help me with connecting to a wireless router?? please?00:42
Pelolars03,  we like it , go for it00:42
spydonoops sorry00:42
blackvdits not really about vbox tho00:42
kelsinspydon: some stupid questions: are you sure you have the external ip correct? and secondly do you have a cable modem or other device between your router and modem?00:43
x_what's the command line forget , install ATI driversor settings?!00:43
blackvdits about how i can permanently change file permissions00:43
Peloblackvd,  but they are more likely to know about the issue and how to fix it00:43
scorchis there a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?00:43
deal_How can I activate more desktops to distribute my work on? I've set it to two, but want four!00:43
kelsinblackvd: you can probably do that with a udev rule, it's not a permission on a normal file, it's a /dev file00:43
Peloblackvd,  sudo chmod .....00:43
juano__lars03: it is recommended to stick to the newer versions always, because it has the lastest fixes of bugs00:43
blackvdchmod a+x?00:43
* Pelo buts out00:43
riotkittiedid you add yourself to the virtualbox group?00:43
juano__lars03: and it is recommended to update every once in a while00:44
blackvdhow do i add to that group?00:44
x_what's command line for ATI setting?!00:44
Peloblackvd,  read what kelsin  said00:44
digitalskyhi i'm thinking about trying ubuntu on my notebook, but i want duel boot with my windows.00:44
sirbobCould it be do to it having a low resoluton for its size versus a normal monitor?00:44
digitalskycan anyone suggest how much disk space i need on each partition?00:44
sirbobdue*00:44
Dextorionhi00:44
riotkittieblackvd: go to users/groups under System > Admin00:44
spydonYes im sure I have the external IP correct because if I write it in an browser I get to my router like I would do with my internal router IP too and no I just have broadband modem and router, kelsin00:44
kelsinblackvd: but also check about that group, that might solve the problem more elegantly, if there is a group you can add yourself to to give permissions on that file00:44
phasegendigitalsky: duel is right00:44
lars03should I get 64 bit version? I have 64 bit cpu (c2d)00:44
danbhfivedigitalsky: how much space so you have?00:44
riotkittieblackvd: then Manage Groups. make sure you're in vboxusers group.00:45
juano__lars03: yes, if you have a 64 bit cpu00:45
deal_How can I activate more desktops to distribute my work on? I've set it to two, but want four!00:45
attickidlars03: sometimes it's harder to find software for 6400:45
digitalskyyea i'm trying to migrate to linux but need to use some xp apps still... 40GB00:45
Pelodigitalsky, 10 gig at least if you do one, I have 3 gig used for / right now, 2xram for swap, /home at your discretion00:45
digitalskymy data can reside on another netowrk drive,00:45
kelsinspydon: can you ssh to localhost? just "ssh localhost"00:45
blackvdyeah i'm in the vboxusers group00:45
danbhfivehow much ram?00:45
attickidlars03: I got a 64b also..but I use x86 just because of that00:45
tim1__juano__: ok a new user didn't work either00:45
digitalskyhm 10 GBs00:45
danbhfivehow much ram do you have?00:45
spydonyes I can, kelsin00:45
juano__tim1__: i was gonna suggest before you rebooted that you might wanna try loading nm-applet with sudo permissions00:46
x_!ati |x00:46
ubotux: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto00:46
lars03dana_bad me? 4GB00:46
Pelodigitalsky,  you can install ubuntu on 10 gig , but if you do multiple partitons I recommend 5-10 gig for /00:46
lars03danbhfive*00:46
juano__tim1__: gksudo nm-applet00:46
digitalsky768MB00:46
SwitchCasedoes anybody know why i can connect to my wireless router but nothing happens... its seems my network car has found an connected to it but im not sending or recieving anything... im prompted for a wpa pass but when i enter the correct pass nothing happens... any help would be very much appreciated00:46
danbhfiveno, digitalsky, sorry00:46
juano__tim1__: but i think the problem is a little far off this00:46
digitalsky768MB RAM i mean00:46
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Pelo!wifi | SwitchCase00:46
ubotuSwitchCase: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:46
kelsinspydon: are you able to ssh to an outside network then try to ssh into yours to make sure it's not some wierd issue about sshing to an external ip from your internal box?00:46
tim1__I will now completely reinstall ubuntu (new /home aswell) and if that doesn't work I'll just stop trying00:46
Pelodigitalsky,  about 1.5 gig swap them00:46
Pelothen00:46
Pelotim1__,  don'T get discouraged00:47
digitalskyOk. DOes ubuntu even let me create/install partitions? I've never tried to duel boot00:47
danbhfivedigitalsky: well, the 10g partitions isnt bad advice, you should have a swap space too00:47
SwitchCasepelo: yes.. i read the docs but cant find any info on this particualr problem00:47
scguy318digitalsky: yes00:47
juano__tim1__: first you should boot with livecd and check what settings are configured00:47
spydonyes im able to do that kelsin, because i accidentelly typed ssh spydon@me.is-a-geek.net00:47
juano__tim1__: if it works with livecd, then see what makes it work00:47
tim1__Pelo: I'm struggling now for days with gutsy and whenever I solve a problem two new pop up, the whole process is very discouraging00:48
spydonkelsin: and it worked, but i didn't know the password ofc00:48
danbhfiveanyone know why ubuntu uses so much memory?  it didn't used to use this much00:48
scorchis there a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?00:48
Pelodigitalsky,  the instaler will let you do it when you get to that step , youcan just select to manualy partion or select the partiton,  not sure how it is worded,  as far as the dual booting geos,  the isntaller will make a boot menu with all the oses it sees automaticaly00:48
tim1__I would really like to continue using Ubuntu (I us it since warty) but it just doesn#t seem to work anymore00:48
scguy318danbhfive: if you've got effects on could be it00:48
Pelotim1__,  what was the latest one ?00:48
kelsinspydon so if that worked, what is the problem?00:48
[KEMANUSIAN][INSlinux for a free humanity00:48
kelsinspydon: if the only problem is you can't ssh to your external ip from the internal network, that's probably not a big problem00:48
spydonI can't connect to my own computer from another network... kelsin00:48
SwitchCasepelo: any idea?00:49
Pelotim1__,  you can always go back to feisty if that worked better for you you will get updates for another year or so00:49
chester_martinshi there00:49
kelsinspydon: ok sorry, I must have misunderstood, I thouht I asked if you checked from an external ip and you just said it worked00:49
khatahnare there ubuntu packages for the latest flash 9 release somewhere?00:49
tim1__Pelo: my system randomly froze and I had to do a hard reboot, then I completely reinstalled Ubuntu ebcause nobody could help me with that and now wireless doesn't work00:49
chester_martinscan anybody knows a good download manager to ubuntu?? i love dap for windows...00:49
PeloSwitchCase,  try searching the forum I'm not very good with wifi stuff , www.ubuntuforums.org00:49
attickidtim1__: I had also that problem00:49
SwitchCaseok thanks00:49
spydonoh sorry I missunderstood you I think, kelsin :P00:49
attickidtim1__: while using ubuntu 7.1000:49
chester_martinsi can't find a really good for linux00:49
digitalskyso on my 40GB drive, 20GB Windows, 15GB linux, 2 GB swap, 3 GB data would be ok?00:50
tim1__attickid: what did you do, downgrade?00:50
Pelotim1__, make your /home on a seperate partiton , that way you wonT' loose your data if/when you need to clean install00:50
attickidtim1__: I fix it..installing the newest nvidia driver directly from nvidia website..00:50
kelsinspydon: have you tried ssh'ing to some other box somewhere on the internet (maybe a school lab or work machine, anything) then trying to ssh to your computer?00:50
danbhfivescguy318: interesting, but its not it, i just checked, and they are off00:50
Pelochester_martins, didyou check in the add/remove applet ?00:50
tim1__attickid: it also crashed when I used the vesa driver...00:51
danbhfivewhat is the 3g data for?00:51
digitalskywell docs that i need... like doc, xls, etc00:51
spydonkelsin: nope I haven't, but i have been at my school trying to SSH to my homecomp and it didn't work, connection refused there too00:51
juano__chester_martins: from firefox you have downthemall!00:51
digitalskycurrently i'm using about 1.5 GB.00:51
ryan_77Hi, I'm trying to dual boot XP and Ubuntu. Have XP already installed. Trying to add Ubuntu 7.10 to the 3rd HD (XP is on #1 HD). Each install I try ends with an eventual Grub Error 21.  Any suggestions?00:52
tim1__Pelo: I have /home on a different partition, but when I downgrade to feisty I will miss applications like miro and some configuration files won't be read by the older applications (like rhythmbox databse)00:52
tritiumspydon: did you install the ssh server on yoru home machine?00:52
abcde_I am unable to get Tracker to search my drive.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?00:52
juano__chester_martins: an add-on that resumes.. etc00:52
tim1__Pelo: before I downgrade I rather switch distributions00:52
digitalskyif 10GB for linux is enough, 15 should be pretty good then right?00:52
spydontritium: Yes :P00:52
attickidtim1__: when I googled ..I read some people fixing it jsut by installing all the updates..00:52
danbhfiveyeah, 15 is more than enough00:52
Pelodigitalsky, the / in ubuntu will isntall at about 2.5 gig you won't realy need 15 gig00:52
scorchis there a LiveUSB version of Ubuntu?00:52
digitalskyoh really00:52
digitalskyhm what about apps?00:52
attickidtim1__: do u have a nvidia card?00:52
Rafabewondering the same thing as Scorch00:52
digitalskyi mainly want just open office, web browsing, email00:53
chester_martins..00:53
blackvdOk cool I got it! had to add myself to the group then restartx >_>00:53
kelsinspydon: Then I'm at a loss, the port forward of port 22 is all you should need. I would double check that the external ip address is actually hitting your router, can you bring up your router's page from your school on that ip etc00:53
tim1__attickid: yes, but I did a clean install anyway, now it's wireless that isn't working00:53
Pelotim1__, did you try installing with the alternate install cd,  it usualy does a better job00:53
digitalskyi don't know why I'm using 15 GB in my xp now... don't know where the space has gone00:53
Testerhello00:53
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: you probably gave it to ubuntu on accident00:53
DG19075there is also an i386 DVD you can use00:53
Slue_Gnifferhmph.00:53
digitalskyok Pelo00:53
spydonI know ive already tried that, it so weird! Thx for your help anyway, kelsin :)00:53
CreationistHaving a problem with Bluetooth - every time I try to connect to my mobil phone I get this error: "obex://[00:1b:59:b8:4a:03]" is not a valid location."   Blue tooth is on on my phone and my phone appears in the list of devices... What gives?00:53
digitalskyIndyGunFreak: I don't have ubuntu on it yet00:54
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: then youv'e wonked something up...lol, how big is your hard drive?00:54
kelsinspydon: it's also possible that your isp blocks port 22, you can try to port forward some higher port to 22 internal00:54
CreationistI would hate to have to use Windows just to get files off my phone.00:54
Pelodigitalsky,  depends on the app,  ubuntu already comes with a butload fo defaults like OOo and others, tha's part of the 2.5,  I'm up to 3 gig atm and I have a lot of aps,  not as much as some mind you ,  5-10 gig is what I recommend,  i fyou install windows apps on your system running on wine they will isntall in your /home folder anyway ( what you call data _00:54
kelsinso then you'd connect with "ssh -p 5897 user@your.external.ip" and reach your box on 2200:54
tim1__Pelo: no I didn't test the alternate, but I will try that, thanks for the tip00:54
pablinhow to install soundblaster xi fi in ubuntu 7.0400:54
kelsinspydon: obviously where 5897 is whatever high port you chose, that will get past it if your ISP blocks port 2200:55
digitalsky40GB. XP Pro + MS Office + Matlab + OO + a bunch of smaller softwares = 15GB00:55
ryan_77Hi, I'm trying to dual boot XP and Ubuntu. Have XP already installed. Trying to add Ubuntu 7.10 to the 3rd HD (XP is on #1 HD). Each install I try ends with an eventual Grub Error 21.  Any suggestions?00:55
* Pelo will be distracted for about 43 minuts00:55
digitalskyhmm00:55
spydonOkay I will try that kelsin thx00:55
Rafabeif i have the .iso downloaded on the target computer, can I install Ubuntu by extracting it, booting into DOS, and running the setup file? I don't have an optical drive on the computer, so I can't burn/read CD.00:55
DG19075has OO save stuff in .doc format00:56
Marfihey yall. whenever i load up compiz, my borders are missing, so i can't click and drag, x out of my windows, etc. anyone have a link to the code that i have to edit to fix it?00:56
IndyGunFreakryan_77: to the 3rd what?.. hard drive or partition?00:56
ryan_77hard drive00:56
kelsin!install | Rafabe00:56
ubotuRafabe: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate00:56
ryan_77IndyGunFreak00:56
IndyGunFreakPelo: up to 3gigs?..lol, i have 12..lol00:56
MarfiDG19075, yes, OO can save in .doc00:56
Pelodigitalsky,  well , xp takes about 4-6 gig to start with , incl;uding all the updates,  mso takes a lot of room as well ,  OOo is already part of the default install in ubuntu , don'T know what matlab is but I can guess and no idea how much room it takes00:56
Rafabethanks kelsin00:56
Dukkemy ubuntu is 7.04  he don't start if i try to use the last version of ubuntu i have to del all?00:57
kelsinRafabe: that first link does have many ways to install without a cd00:57
IndyGunFreakPelo: are you in Windows right now, or on the live cd?00:57
PeloIndyGunFreak,  3 gig on my / ,  I have about 40 gig for stuff in my /home00:57
IamReckAnyone have any clue why using Compiz Config would break VLC Media Player?00:57
IndyGunFreakPelo: oh ok...lol,00:57
PeloIndyGunFreak, I'm in my ubuntu install atm why ?00:57
IndyGunFreakPelo: that wasn't for you, it was for ryan_77 sorry00:57
spydonconnection refused there too. kelsin :(00:57
ryan_77IndyGunFreak: from what I have read, theinstaller should be fine with separate dual boot Hard drive installs of XP and Ubuntu00:57
IndyGunFreakryan_77: are you on the live CD, or in windows right now?00:57
IndyGunFreakryan_77: yes, it should be, thats how i learned linux, windows on one drivef, Linux on the other.00:58
Micheruhey IndyGunFreak i am running plain ubuntu now, just gotta wait for the disks to arrive00:58
kelsinspydon: are you sure your broadband modem doesn't take up an ip and form a firewall between your router and the internet?00:58
* Pelo ' s windows install is 3 gig, no upgrades, no mso, just autocad 00:58
ryan_77IndyGunFreak: i'm on a separate computer.. i have tried the Live CD install and the Alternate install00:58
IndyGunFreakMicheru: lol, i figured thats what you'd end up doing.00:58
IndyGunFreakMicheru: when you get your XP disks, i'll help you sort out that mess you had going on...00:58
digitalskyok then 20GB xp 10 GB ubuntu 2GB swap 8GB data00:58
MicheruIndyGunFreak, hehe00:58
SmegzorHow soon will Wine 0.9.50 be available in the repos?00:59
Micheruoh i fixed that00:59
ryan_77IndyGunFreak: i'm on a windows box now, over my shoulder is the error screen00:59
IamReckAnyone have any clue why using Compiz Config would break VLC Media Player?00:59
IndyGunFreakMicheru: but i wouldn't do to much, usually, the best thing to do, is let Windows take over the whole drive, install, etc, then use the ubuntu installer to partition the drive.00:59
digitalskyPelo: did your 10GB recommendation include the 2GB swap?00:59
IndyGunFreakryan_77: ok.00:59
Micherui used the livecd to wipe all the partitions and installed ubuntu on one big partition00:59
krielHello everybody. I'm trying to follow a forum topic at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615 and I got to the part where I'm supposed to 'make depend && make' in the installation, however make pukes up with an error shown at http://pastebin.com/m3ff648ac . Any ideas on what I should try and do to let make go on?00:59
spydonI don't think so because then I wouldn't come to my router when I write my external IP in a browser, would I, kelsin?00:59
IndyGunFreakryan_77: try changing your BIOS, to boot one of your slave drives first, maybe grub got installed on the wrong drive.00:59
Micheruthen i will do what you just said lol00:59
kelsinspydon: from school?00:59
Pelodigitalsky, sounds about right,  make the /home right after the / , so you can resize the / and use the room on /home if you need to , I think you will want to do that after a little while01:00
spydonboth, kelsin01:00
IndyGunFreakMicheru: thats the easiest thing to do... use this time with Ubuntu only to do some learning.01:00
Pelodigitalsky,  I actualy recommended 1.5 gig of swap in your case but swap is seperate from /01:00
digitalskywould too much swap affect performance?01:00
kazolCan someone help me setup samba access to a server that will require the passwd to the server to be typed each time the system is started?01:00
IndyGunFreakryan_77: did you understand what i was talking about?01:01
ArthurArchnixIs is possible to launch an windows app on a vbox machine, without first starting inntek vbox, choosing the machine, starting the machine, then launching the app? At the very least setting a default machine that launches automatically?01:01
Pelodigitalsky,  the rule of thumb is 2x RAM , you don't realy need more unless you have very little memory01:01
digitalskyI actually wouldnt' need much of a /home I think, because I'm the only user and I'll mount the data and save everything there so I can share them with XP (that's possible right?)01:01
MicheruIndyGunFreak, i have had ubuntu for a month, on another machine and it was a completly different setup, thats why i screwed this one up01:01
PeloArthurArchnix,  you'll have to ask in a virtualbox chanel01:01
IndyGunFreakMicheru: it happens, if i told you i never screwed up my system trying to install Linux, i'd be struck by lightening.01:02
MicheruIndyGunFreak, hehe01:02
Pelodigitalsky,  /home not only contains your data but also all your user settings,  , and you can share with a windows network using samba01:02
ryan_77IndyGunFreak: thanks, i do understand, but the bios does look at the mbr of hd0 and grub does start (where as XP used to), then goes to a Grub Loading stage 1.5, grub loading please wait... , error 2101:03
kelsinspydon: yeah that probably wouldn't happen, yeah I'm at a loss from here :-( good luck with it.01:03
SmegzorI followed the instructions to install Wine 0.9.50 here http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb but when I apt-get install wine, it always installs 0.9.49  How do I get 0.9.50 installed?01:03
digitalskyyea but I expect the user settings won't take much room01:03
Micherui gotta restart01:03
RockbuddyHey everyone.01:03
IndyGunFreakryan_77: i know that, but when i used to use two drives, i'd usually get grub installed on both drives..(why i don't know)...01:03
scguy318ryan_77: if you're desperate to boot to something, burn yourself a Super GRUB CD01:03
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IndyGunFreakryan_77: thats why i suggested that, or as scguy318 suggested, get supergrub.01:04
ArthurArchnixPelo: I did... no response. I found a message on the forum from a developer saying no though, while I was waiting. But I'm not sure if the "no" meant can't create shortcuts to autolaunch programs, or "no you can't hide the windows taskbar when in seamless mode.01:04
PeloSmegzor,  there is not 0.9.50 package for ubuntu yet you'll have to wait a few days,  ifyou instal 0.9.49 now it will upgrade automaticaly when it is out01:04
IndyGunFreak!sgd | ryan_7701:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sgd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:04
IndyGunFreak!supergrub01:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about supergrub - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:04
spydonkelsin: thx for all your help! It's probably just something fucked up that ive done with my router :P01:04
IndyGunFreakhmm,01:04
digitalskyMy next question is, the xp i have is the one that comes with my acer notebook, so I'll have to install from that CD.  If I want to duel boot, do I install linux or xp first?01:04
digitalskymy guess is linux right?01:04
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: always xp first01:04
scguy318ryan_77: http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/?section=download01:04
Pelodigitalsky,  install xp first01:04
kelsindigitalsky: always xp01:04
digitalskyreally?01:04
cecCan someone tell me if gtkpod is the best program for managing an ipod on ubuntu?01:04
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: yes,01:04
digitalskyso i have to use the xp to partition my drive?01:05
kelsindigitalsky: windows doesn't care about other os's and will overright the bootmanager only allowing you to boot windows01:05
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: xp will piss and moan if its not master of everything.01:05
Pelodigitalsky, yes, that way ubujntu will detect it during hte install and make the appropriate entry int eh boot menu01:05
SmegzorPelo: but don't I get it right now if I do what it says here?  http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb01:05
ryan_77IndyGunFreak: and scguy318: thanks.. I feel Super Grub might be the way to go.01:05
kelsindigitalsky: you can resize windows partitions after, or just tell the windows isntaller not to use the whole drive01:05
juano__digitalsky: no, its a matter of GRUB bootloader, its best if you install xp first01:05
x_how i can install or active ATI drivers?!01:05
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: no, use XP, take over the entire disk,01:05
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: then install ubuntu, and use it to partition the drive, and install ubuntu01:05
digitalskyoooooook..............01:05
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: i meant then use the ubuntu cd, to partition, then install ubuntu01:06
RockbuddyI have a uestion about Ubuntu 7.10... It doesn't start at all I can't even install it. I get the error message "find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz   |   Error 17: File not found."01:06
krielI'm trying to follow a forum topic at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615 and I got to the part where I'm supposed to 'make depend && make' in the installation, however make pukes up with an error shown at http://pastebin.com/m3ff648ac . Any ideas on what I should try and do to let make go on?01:06
ryan_77scguy318: I'm not desperate, I can fix XP.. just want to dual boot01:06
juano__digitalsky: you can partition your disk without any OS if you download the gparted live CD01:06
PeloSmegzor,  what is out now is the 0.9.50 source,  distro specific packages are made by volunteers,  they need a few days to make them , give it a few days , be patient01:06
x_anyone can help me about ati drivers ?!01:06
kelsinkriel: that's from 200501:06
* IndyGunFreak <3's gparted live01:06
juano__!ati | x_01:06
ubotux_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:06
PeloRockbuddy, did it install ? or are you not able to install it ?01:06
kelsinkrel: use the wine from the ubuntu repos, it works with WoW fine01:06
RockbuddyI have a question about Ubuntu 7.10... It doesn't start at all I can't even install it. I get the error message "find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/vmlinuz | Error 17: File not found." can someone please help me?01:06
Rockbuddyno pelo01:06
IndyGunFreak!patience | Rockbuddy01:07
ubotuRockbuddy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:07
krielkelsin: I... so forgot to check the date... Thank you.01:07
digitalskyso in my case, if I want 20 GB xp + 8.5 GB linux + 1.5 GB swap + 10 GB (/home + windows data), then I install xp first and use up the whole drive?01:07
* Pelo already knew IndyGun was a freak but he had no idea how far it went01:07
kelsinkriel: once you install wine from the repos start at the "winecfg" line in that tutorial01:07
kazolFor some reason .bash_history doesn't get updated. It is probably due to the fact that I shredded the file, rm'd it, and created a blank one. Any suggestions?01:07
IndyGunFreakPelo: lol, you have no idea.01:07
Rockbuddyi no i just forgot to finish my sentence sorry..01:07
PeloRockbuddy,  try using the alternate install cd,   you can get it from the ubuntu.com site just check the box under the download now button01:07
digitalskyactually i might just be wasting you guys' time here. it's probably somewhere in the web01:07
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: what is?01:07
GateAnyone used Ubuntu on the newest macbooks? I am having alot of trouble getting *any* functionality out of the fn key and I can't get sound01:07
RockbuddyPelo: will it most likely work or are you unsure?01:08
kelsinkriel: cause from slightly looking at it, the instructions after that (the few) are what I do when trying to get wow working, it's worked really easily for me recently at least :) good luck01:08
digitalskyinstructions to do duel boot01:08
Pelodigitalsky,  you are not wsting your time , but please use our nick in each line so we know you are talking to us01:08
IndyGunFreakdigitalsky: oh yeah.01:08
IndyGunFreak!dualboot | digitalsky01:08
ubotudigitalsky: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot01:08
kelsinkazol: bash only writes to bash_history on exit01:08
digitalskyPelo: ok01:08
ryan_77IndyGunFreak: scguy318: thanks01:08
PeloRockbuddy, it usualy does,  the alternate install cd is more leanient about hardware during the installation process01:08
digitalskyIndyGunFreak: thanks01:08
kelsinkazol: does it not write to it on exit?01:08
IndyGunFreakryan_77: np, good luck, iv'e not had much luck with supergrub.... but if you can figure it out, it might work01:08
kazolkelsin: I have exited the terminal and rebooted several times already.01:08
krielkelsin: Thank you, very much.01:09
imbecilelets geek out on IRC01:09
IndyGunFreaknigggo: lol01:09
kelsinkazol: ahhh, wierd, if you rm the file it should just create it again when exiting, unless there is an odd setting to turn it off in your .bash_profile, .profile or .bashrc files01:09
kazolok01:09
PeloIndyGunFreak, since when do you speak french ?01:09
PeloIndyGunFreak,  nvm01:09
IndyGunFreakPelo: lol...01:09
krielOh. How do I un-make the wine that i've already installed? If i just do apt-get install, does it overwrite the old wine?01:10
kelsinkriel: you've already run a "make install" command>01:10
kelsin?01:10
DM|anyone have a synaptics touchpad working properly with verticle scroll ?01:10
_DTkriel: yes01:10
krielkelsin: oh. No. Duh, I was just compiling it. -slaps face- Thank you...01:10
kelsinkriel: then you should be good :)01:10
operator011Can an anyone please advise how I change the size of my terminal (1024x768 pixels, but ubuntu is defalted to 640x480), where is the config file for this setting?>01:11
IndyGunFreakwhere can i get a list of IRC commands, like msg, notify, etc..01:11
Captain_Linux_Anyone know of a good IDE for mips?01:11
krielLinux needs to level out the learning curve abit. I've spent like 3 years on and off trying to conquer it, and I'm still lost...01:11
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PeloIndyGunFreak, try asking in #xchat , they probably have a link for that, I just leaned as I went over the years01:12
hwildei've got no sound on lenovo r60 laptop?01:12
IndyGunFreakPelo: oh ok.01:12
sllinesshey my g/f managed to get my top panel in gnome to right of the screen and I can't get it back. I have a crt 15" monitor and a TV on the graphics card svideo out running xinearama (I thnk) plus compiz-fusion installed01:12
Pelo!sound | hwilde01:12
ubotuhwilde: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:12
Pelohwilde,  also check your model in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport there might be some advice01:12
krieloperator011: well, for starters, you can hit the maximize button. (the one next to the x.) I'm not sure how to make it permanent, though. Try poking around the terminal options.01:12
IndyGunFreakhwilde: you probably have intel hda.01:12
LOGANbah I begin to feel the restrictions of open source software more and more01:12
IndyGunFreakall those lenovo's do.01:13
kelsinLOGAN: then edit them to your liking01:13
hwildePelo, alsa is selected and my hardware is supported01:13
hwildeIndyGunFreak, yep that is it01:13
krielIndyGunFreak: my lenovo works perfectly with the latest ubuntu. literally ootb, perfectly supported.01:13
sllinesshow do I get my panel back to top of screen is it like xfce and moving panels?01:13
IndyGunFreakhwilde: yeah, some do, some don't01:13
Peloslliness,   right click the botom pannel  on an empty place, select add a pannel, or new panel,  move it to the top, right click add to pannel and add the stuff you want to it01:13
hwildeeverything works it's just like the sound isn't playing01:13
IndyGunFreakhwilde: youc an try to compile a new alsa driver.01:13
LOGANkelsin : for example, I cannot use open source game engine to make commercial game01:13
IndyGunFreakhwilde: ya.01:13
Pelohwilde, mute button on the lappy ?01:13
LOGANforces game into open source01:13
quentinHi, has anyone managed to get the slmodem source to compile on the generic ubuntu kernel?01:14
kelsinLOGAN: well you can if you want to make it open source, or find an engine that's a BSD license01:14
Lupindoes anyone know how i make xchat 2.8.4 go to tray on "X" (close windows) instead of shutting down?01:14
IndyGunFreakhwilde: open a terminal and type lspci  and see how it identifies your sound device.01:14
hwildePelo, that doesn't seem to be doing anything but yeah there is volume up down and mute01:14
kelsinLOGAN: also most game engines have a dual license policy so you can buy a commercial license01:14
sllinessPelo, how do I move my already existing panel back to top cause it is already pack with aplets01:14
IndyGunFreakhwilde: there's a volume because it recognizes the device, but the way its being controlled is wonked up01:14
sllinesss/aplets/applets01:14
LOGANkelsin : Im unemployed atm. no money for licenses anyway01:15
IndyGunFreakits an alsa issue.01:15
Pelohwilde, I'm just trying for the obvious stuff,   check in menu > system > prefs > sound , see that hte right card is selected or put it on automatic01:15
hwildeIndyGunFreak, lspci   00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)01:15
IndyGunFreakdamn i'm good.01:15
IndyGunFreaklol01:15
Peloslliness,  just drag it01:15
hwildeif it were obvious I wouldn't be asking in irc01:15
hwildeit is just muted somewhere i know it01:15
hwildealsamixer will save me01:15
kelsinLOGAN: but "restrive" is also relative, compared to closed-source engines, I would say most open source ones are much less restrictive01:15
sllinessPelo, so i have to remove some stuff to grab it then cause have so much on it01:15
* Pelo thinks hwilde is doomed01:16
sllinesspelo just launches stuff01:16
kelsinLOGAN: but yes compared to, "I want to use this free software to make a closed source game for money" it is restrictive01:16
DG19075silliness: In the panel menu you can select properties and then change the position of the panel01:16
IndyGunFreakwell, i was gonna try to talk him through compiling new alsadrivers..lol01:16
LOGANkelsin : im unemployed atm... thats my biggest restriction already01:16
IndyGunFreaki got it setup on my laptop really easy01:16
Peloslliness,  you can make a new pannel you don'T have to use the one you have already and be stuck with just one,  you can make as many pannels as you want, with almost anything you want on them ,just play around with the right click options01:17
Gateanyone know how to get the fn key working in the most recent MacBook?01:18
vonehleI'm trying to install 7.1.  I think I'm not able to view the entire screen.  For instance, I'm currently on the "Where Are You" screen.  I have selected my region, but cannot see a "next" or "continue" button, so I'm stuck on this screen.01:18
IndyGunFreaklol01:18
IndyGunFreakvonehle: can you change your screen resolution?01:19
IndyGunFreaksounds like the "next" button is hanging off screen01:19
vonehleHow do I get to the resolution changes?  Right clicking the desktop doesn't seem to work.01:20
IndyGunFreakvonehle: system/preferences, i do believe01:20
letha1I changed my xorg.conf file, to allow me to use my quad display, now it won't allow for Desktop Effects01:20
letha1how do i renable desktop effects with multiple monitors?01:21
vonehle800 x 600 is the best it offers me.01:21
Pelovonehle, menu > system > prefs > screen resolution,  if he resolotuion you want isn'T available you have to add it manualy to the xorg.conf file then it will be available01:21
IndyGunFreakletha1: quad displays?.. wow.01:21
IndyGunFreaki thought dual rocked.01:21
Peloletha1, ask in #compiz-fusion01:21
letha1do you guys have Desktop Effects?01:21
IndyGunFreakPelo: problem is, he's on the live CD, trying to install, can he modify xorg.conf on the live cd?01:21
vonehlehow do I get to the xorg.conf file?01:21
IndyGunFreakvonehle: try this...01:21
Pelovonehle,   open a terminal and type  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, scroll down a bit, it is quite obvious where you need to add01:21
gojitavonehle, I had a messed up resolution setting, after I installed Envy, then picked the appropriate driver.  It installed everything and configured the xorg.conf for me automagically!01:22
Pelovonehle, IndyGunFreak,  he can, but he'll have to restart X and not reboot,  and the changes won't hold when he reboots01:22
IndyGunFreakPelo: oh i see, just restart X, that makes sense01:22
Jannitanecudeco, :*01:23
sllinessanyone here know anything about the weather applet in xfce, keepin mind I have a good working install of compiz-fusion and do not want to jeopardize it. the xfce weather applet in really good01:23
* Pelo beats FloodBot1 to within an inch of it's life01:23
vonehlesorry guys, I don't know anything at all about Ubuntu.  How do I open a terminal?01:23
gojita...01:24
sllinessthe gnome weather applet is bunk01:24
wladekheya.. if i write a simple shell script that takes a paramater (start|stop) and stick it in my /etc/init.d directory.. will the 'start' paramater automatically be passed to it on boot?01:24
gojitaupperleft - accessories - terminal01:24
wallsphow to get all DVD / decss and other shit?01:24
Peloslliness,  if you are using xcfe you might want to ask your quesitons in #xubuntu01:24
matt__there is gdesklets for gnome, is there an equivalent for kde?01:24
IndyGunFreakvonehle: just for grins, try this... drag your panel at the top, to the side.. then try to move the window up a little bit, and se if you can see "Next"01:24
dmitrig01I have an old powerpc mac.  I want to install ubuntu01:24
dmitrig01where do I start01:24
Peloslliness,  also consider gdesktlets I think they work on xcfe,  there is a nice weather desktop app in there01:24
dmitrig01I've never user or installed linux before01:25
Pelodmitrig01, dl the mack version of ubuntu first01:25
Pelomac01:25
matt__there is gdesklets for gnome, is there an equivalent for kde?01:25
IndyGunFreakdmitrig01: your'e in for a treat, you picked hte best version right off the bat, most of us distro hop for a year.01:25
Pici!dvd | wallsp01:25
Pelodmitrig01,  then just burn image to the cd and boot from it01:25
ubotuwallsp: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:25
revxi got Gyache, but seem my webcam a4tech 635m dont work in it.any idea.01:25
IndyGunFreakvonehle: did that work?01:25
sllinessPelo,  sorry I am not using xfce use it on other machine01:25
dmitrig01IndyGunFreak: wha?01:25
dmitrig01Pelo: how do I do that?01:25
sllinessI am running gnome01:26
gojitahow can I have ubuntu gutsy download from the latest repo's like cutting edge Fedora type distro?01:26
Pelodmitrig01, goto www.ubuntu.com,  get the cd and burn it first,  not sure how you boot from the cd on mac, I think you hold the C key while booting or something like that01:26
vonehlewhen I typed in the sudo... I got a notepad type screen, but it is blank.  Is this because I'm running off the CD right now?01:26
mic21good evening, i am using NFS on ubuntu gusty to share homes directories and I have the following error that i can't fix... lockd server 192.168.1.2 not responding timeout, couldn't create RPC handle for 192.168.1.201:26
Peloslliness,  sudo apt-get install gdesklets01:26
dmitrig01well, I dunno how to make a bootable dv01:26
dmitrig01d01:26
digitalskyPelo: one thing came to mind. In XP i have files that have spaces + english + chinese/japanese in them. Will ubuntu be able to read them?01:26
Peloslliness,  sudo apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-extra01:27
IndyGunFreakvonehle: you didn't type the entire command in correctly then01:27
Pelodigitalsky,  yes01:27
dmitrig01what kind of computer do I have?01:27
dmitrig01" Standard personal computer (x86 architecture, PentiumTM, CeleronTM, AthlonTM, SempronTM)"01:27
dmitrig01?01:27
digitalskyPelo: nice!01:27
dmitrig01or "64bit AMD and Intel computers"?01:27
gojitaI think mac computers are 'ppc' architecture... not sure though01:27
IndyGunFreakvonehle: just try this, at the top, where your clock, applications menu, etc, is, try dragging it to the right side of the screen, then try moving that window up a little bit, and see if you can see "next" at the bottom01:27
jribgojita: not recent ones01:27
Pelodmitrig01, I think there is a button or a link for mirrors in that page, click on it01:27
digitalskyPelo: I mean filesnames.... eg. english + chinese in the same file/folder name01:27
bulmermic21-> is that an error from your log file?01:28
gojita...what are recent ones?  ppc64?01:28
LjLgojita: plain intels.01:28
Pelodigitalsky,  I know what you meant,  my answer stands01:28
dmitrig01http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors?01:28
mic21bulmer: it's the error on the client with dmesg.01:28
gojitaNICE01:28
vonehleI cannot drag it01:28
digitalskyPelo: Great! Thanks.01:28
* Pelo is pretty sure anyway 01:28
IndyGunFreakvonehle: yes you can...01:28
bulmermic21-> can you ping the server okay from client?01:28
gojitawhat repos in Ubuntu have to be enabled to get the latest and greatest?01:29
IndyGunFreakvonehle: then do this, right click an open area of the panel, choose properties, where it says "orientation" choose "right"01:29
LjL!backports > gojita    (gojita, see the private message from Ubotu)01:29
mic21bulmer: yes and the home dir is mounted; but i can't login because of the timeout01:29
dmitrig01Pelo: so what sholud I download01:29
Pelodmitrig01, where are you located ?01:29
gojitaLjL, THanks01:29
dmitrig01nearest portland in the US01:29
* IndyGunFreak thinks everyone should start off w/ 32bit.. hardware be damned01:29
dmitrig01specifically, SF Bay area01:30
dmitrig01in CA01:30
mic21bulmer: i mean with gnome; a simple login on the terminal is ok.01:30
brandenHey everyone how are ya01:30
viper550Help, problem! I installed Gutsy, and when I booted in, the bootscreen worked, but then when it was supposed to go to the login screen, the monitor turned off.01:30
Pelodmitrig01,  region is not so imporatnt01:30
gojitaI thought backports meant things from the past that had been made compatible with newr stuff in case its broken :p01:30
bulmermic21-> is the portmap running on your client?01:30
IndyGunFreakviper550: did moving your mouse bring it back up?01:30
dmitrig01North america01:30
abcde_I am unable to get Tracker to search my computer.  It works for a few searches, then breaks, showing no results.  I run "trackerd -v 2 -R", and after it indexes, I can search a bit, then nothing.  I'm searching with tracker-search-tool.  Any ideas?01:30
brandenviper check your xorg.conf01:30
viper550no01:30
IndyGunFreakhmm, usually it does01:30
mic21bulmer: yes01:30
viper550how can01:30
brandencould be a resolution issue01:30
gojitaviper550, I had the same issue, still do.  Moving the cursor makes the monitor come out of standby01:30
viper550It didn't ask for resolution in the installer01:31
gojita*only on install01:31
IndyGunFreakvonehle: did what i suggested work?01:31
lastkhow to install a application  from apt-get in /home ?01:31
bulmermic21-> is rpc.statd running?01:31
LjLlastk: can't.01:31
jriblastk: why do you want to?01:31
mic21bulmer: on the clients ?01:31
bulmermic21-> yes01:31
lastkjrib : without space in partition... just space free in /home =/01:31
dmitrig01Pelo: could you find a link to the mac download?01:32
scguy318lastk: resize / then01:32
viper550I'm getting out my Slax disc01:32
Pelodmitrig01, me neither,  I think you might have to settle for 6.06, hold on01:32
dmitrig01that's ok01:32
IndyGunFreakPelo: its an unsupported project now, but Ubuntu Gutsy is available for Mac hardware01:32
Pelodmitrig01, do you prefer torrent or direct ?01:33
brandenSO who is willing to help me with a vsftpd issue with trying to connect through a browesr instead of term01:33
IndyGunFreakdmitrig01: have you considered pure debian?...01:33
dmitrig01IndyGunFreak: I want ubntu01:33
kelsinlastk: apps don't go all in one directory, they go all over, and depend on those locations01:33
dmitrig01Pelo: torrent01:33
IndyGunFreakdmitrig01: ok.01:33
Pelodmitrig01, http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso.torrent01:33
lastkscguy318 : what is this make?01:33
dmitrig01well give me both pls and I'll see which one is faster01:33
dmitrig01Pelo: thanks01:33
Pelodmitrig01, http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/6.06.1/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-powerpc.iso01:33
dmitrig01Pelo: thanks01:33
vonehleOK, finally got to the sudo gedit screen.  Under Modes in the Screen section, there are 6 choices listed, but those choices are not all listed in the drop box when I want to change screen resolutions01:33
viper550got out my Slax live cd01:33
siccness_Anyone ever built freeradius from source under ubuntu?01:33
Pelodmitrig01,  for future use http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/6.06.1/01:34
brandendimitrig01: ARe you running windows as we speak?01:34
dmitrig01Pelo: thanks so much01:34
dmitrig01branden: mac01:34
viper550so, where do I check?01:34
dmitrig01branden: I have two macs, one new and the other very old01:34
IndyGunFreakdmitrig01: you can find gutsy for mac hardware, dapper is gettin old.01:34
Pelodmitrig01,  I noticed I gave you the alternate cd links,  you can find the live cd ( desktop) ones on the last link if you prefer01:35
brandendimitri: just download ubuntu and burn it to a medium01:35
fooaudacity records/plays back audio twice as fast. any ideas? i can't find anything, been all over preferences and google01:35
IndyGunFreakbranden: he needs it for mac hardware01:35
brandenAH01:35
PeloIndyGunFreak, dapper will be supported for years yet, I'd rather have him on dapper then try to trouble shoot an unstable gutsy01:35
brandenAh*01:35
kelsinfoo: if it's twice as fast it might be playing sound at 44.1 when your sound card only supports 22hz or something01:35
IndyGunFreakPelo: lol01:35
Peloon hardware I don'T know no less01:35
IamReckhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8cS1AkqiI awesome first comment.01:35
kelsinfoo: make sure all audio settings are correct01:36
IndyGunFreakPelo: but when Dapper gets dropped, he'll have no optionsm, since Ubuntu no longer supports mac01:36
dmitrig01branden: I have two Macs.  I am operating normal mac stuff on the newer one.  I'd like to try linux for the second01:36
IndyGunFreakthats why i suggest debian, as it seems it will have a mac version forever.01:36
dav1hello guys, i deinstalled compiz and domino and esemerald and now i cannot change my resolution, does anybody know why?01:36
fookelsin: they are01:36
fookelsin: what settings?01:36
LjLIndyGunFreak: "forever" is a long time...01:36
DM|sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server --- for reconfiguring xserver right? i always forget01:37
LjLDM|: xserver-xorg01:37
vonehleIn windows you can press the tab key to move between controls.  This doesn't seem to work for Ubuntu.  Is there a different way?01:37
DM|thanks01:37
kelsinfoo: I just said, some sort of setting might be set to the wrong hz value, you'd have to play with them, I don't know your system or soundcard, or audacity off hand01:37
kelsinfoo: but normally sound 1/2 as fast or 2x as fast is due to wrong Hz settings01:37
Pelovonehle, try the arrow keys01:37
dmitrig01I'm fine with using something unsupported01:37
abcde_IndyGunFreak, dmitrig01, you mean a PPC version.  The new mac I'd assume to be intel, the older one is PowerPC.01:37
dmitrig01it's not going to become my main compter01:37
dmitrig01abcde_: yes01:37
IndyGunFreakabcde_: yes,01:37
dmitrig01abcde_: I want linux on ppc01:37
viper550on gutsy, where is xorg.conf?01:37
dmitrig01it's a g401:38
viper550<dmitrig01> yellow dog linux01:38
dmitrig01viper550: what's that?01:38
abcde_dmitrig01, There is a PPC version, not sure if you'd want to do Ubuntu.  I was just going to say YDL.01:38
viper550Linux distro made specifically for Apple platform01:38
hellsdarkviper550: /ETC/x11/01:38
mic21bulmer: I can't check now because I am not in the office but I know that I have installed nfs-common and portmap on the clients. The problem is appeared when we have change the address from 10.0.0.0 to 192.168.1.0. We have restarted the server but we can see some old entries in /var/lib/nfs/rmtab.01:38
viper550But it's Fedora based01:38
abcde_dmitrig01, Redhat for PPC more or less.01:38
Dr_willis -/etc/X11/xorg.conf01:38
kelsinviper550: same place as always /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:38
Pelodmitrig01, you'll have to ask IndyGunFreak for a link to gutsy for ppc I have no idea where t get it from01:38
dmitrig01ah01:38
brandendimitri: http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/dapper/release.1/ has mac iso's its a bit older but once its installed you can dist-upgrade01:38
IndyGunFreakPelo: lol01:38
dmitrig01I want ubuntu!01:38
fookelsin: oh, I've played with everything. I can try that01:38
* Pelo passes the buck01:38
IndyGunFreakdmitrig01: take paxil01:39
abcde_dmitrig01, I'm not that fond of YDL though, I don't like RPM over DEB01:39
Pelodmitrig01, NO we are keeping ubuntu for ourselves01:39
bulmermic21-> which addresses are these? client or server?01:39
brandenall your ubuntu are belong to us01:39
IndyGunFreakPelo: dmitrig01  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/gutsy/release/01:39
* IndyGunFreak laughs at Pelo i told you it was somewhere..lol01:39
* Pelo gives branden one point01:39
branden /cheer pink points!01:39
DM|Ok.. yet again bulletproof X borked me.. I cant change resolutions to anything above 800x600, anyone help?01:39
mic21bulmer: some client address with old address 10.0.0.*01:40
Pelodmj what driver are you running atm ?01:40
abcde_dmitrig01, Just for future reference, if you need to install Ubuntu somewhere, you can usually do Debian -> Ubuntu, since Debian is more versatile on what it can install on.  Then you get Ubuntu with "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"01:40
dmitrig01ok01:40
IndyGunFreakdmitrig01: did you get that link i sent?01:40
brandenHey did ya get that thing I sent ya?01:41
minimecdav1: Have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf Check the "Screen" Section. There You find the actual resolution of your graphical module.01:41
dmitrig01IndyGunFreak: yes01:41
LjLabcde_: that's kind of... very... unsupported, though :)01:41
kelsinabcde_: it might be possible, but definately not supported01:41
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kelsinabcde_: lots of things could break01:41
dmitrig01IndyGunFreak: now I need to download it and then figure out how to make a bootable CD01:41
bulmermic21-> on your server side, you also tell which host or network can connect01:41
DM|Pelo Nvidia01:41
Gateanyonw help with fixing a dead function key?(works in other OSes)01:41
IndyGunFreakdmitrig01: now that i can't help you with, mac's are foriegn to me01:41
vonehleMy xorg.conf Screen settings list 6 different resolutions, but my System>Preferences>Screen Resolution only offers 2.  What can I do?01:41
dmitrig01IndyGunFreak: darn01:41
viper550I have an hp f1503 monitor if that helps01:41
dmitrig01any macies here?01:41
Pelodmitrig01,  you just need to "burn an image" using your cd burning prog01:41
dmitrig01ok01:41
IndyGunFreakvonehle: i've told yuou 4x what to try, and you've not said once wether it worked01:41
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mic21bulmer: my entry in the exports file is /home/ldap  192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)01:42
abcde_LjL, kelsin I know, I just mean if you HAVE to.  I have one machine I need netbooting to install on, and I find it easier to get Debian then Ubuntu on it to upgrade.01:42
vonehleYou told me to try to drag the screen01:42
vonehleI told you that didn't work01:42
IndyGunFreakno i didn't01:42
Pelodmj there is an nvidia setting  package in the repos01:42
brandensudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg is the command to change your res01:42
DM|brb01:42
abcde_dmitrig01, Open Disk Utility, and drag the iso under your HD's, then put a blank in01:42
abcde_dmitrig01, and click Burn01:42
IndyGunFreakusually when this has happened to me before, movin the top panel, and moving the window up just a hair, allows me to see the buttons at the bottom.01:42
dmitrig01abcde_: thanks01:42
bulmermic21-> you have to add your 10.x.x.x users too01:42
kelsinabcde_: if ubuntu won't run, and debian does then you're better off sticking with debian, installing ubuntu packages on debian is risky, and completely overwriting all debian packages with ubuntu will have the same problems as the original ubuntu install01:43
Dukkemy ubuntu is 7.04  he don't start if i try to use the last version of ubuntu i have to del all?01:43
* Pelo is on his second attempt trying to watch Robin Hood 2x09, and is still getting distracted by the stuff in the channel01:43
abcde_kelsin, Oh, works on the laptop, but I guess it's because the only reason Ubuntu has issues is the install, not the Hardware.01:44
vonehlethat did not move it enough01:44
mic21bulmer: but they don't exist anymore, is it a "trick" to clean the table ?01:44
PeloDukke,  are you getting an error msg ?01:44
ubuntu_suckshello01:44
Pelo!br | Dukke01:44
ubotuDukke: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portuguĂŞs. Obrigado.01:44
ubuntu_sucksdoes ubuntu support mouse?01:44
Peloubuntu_sucks, try changing your nick please01:44
brandenDukke try installing a different build like xubuntu or kubuntu and reinstall ubuntu in term sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:44
IndyGunFreakPelo: lol01:44
ubuntu_sucksPelo: but it is so true, ubuntu failed to show me a mouse cursor01:44
LjLdoes ubuntu support trolls? no, see you in some other channel ubuntu_sucks01:44
ubuntu_sucksI loaded 7.10 amd64 lcd01:44
ubuntu_suckscd01:45
bulmermic21-> i dont know, you can try cleaning up that rmtab file01:45
dmitrig01suckage = !ubuntu_sucks01:45
mic21bulmer: do you think that the time out could come from those old entries ?01:45
DukkePelo really stranger say like this "apt-get no found" try apt-get install apt apt-get command not found "01:45
DukkePelo after my memory ram crash01:46
brandenDUkke try "aptitude"01:46
H264_laptopwell, I'm going to shower... if anybody needs me then too bad01:46
bulmermic21-> i think the time out is because you set sync instead of async, if network is faulty it can hang the connectivity01:46
PirateHeadbranden: Why would aptitude not crash if apt-get did?01:46
PirateHeadbranden: They both use apt...01:46
PeloDukke, your install got borked, for some reason,  you will need to reinstall , use the live cd to back up your /home fiolder so yo don't loose your data01:46
brandenPirateHead it was a suggestion dont be noob01:46
Sturmhow do I install the alternate gimp icons?01:46
* Pelo is happy H264_laptop is going to shower, it was getting a bit rank in here 01:47
mic21bulmer: the network is good, everything else works "fine" (1Gbps, cat 6 RJ45 cable).01:47
Dukkeok gonna download the last version..01:47
PirateHeadSturm: You might want to ask in #gimp if you don't find somebody what that info here.01:47
PeloSturm,  do you mean the tool icons in gimp itself or the app icon ?01:47
PeloDukke, best of luck01:47
Dukkethank you01:48
Dukke:D01:48
SturmI meant the grayscale icons I downloaded off the gimp site01:48
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Sturmsince I dont really like the colorful icons01:48
Sturmno one is on #gimp01:48
PeloSturm,  ask in #gimp,  but I think there is a place in preferences where you can specify a path01:48
PirateHeadSturm: Ah. What you do is rename or delete the old ones and replace them with the new ones.01:48
bulmermic21-> how do you make sure none of the bits ever flipped? at 1Gbps ..i would not trust it myself01:49
PeloSturm, #gimp-users01:49
PirateHeadSturm: As Pelo suggests, there might be a config file or preferences panel where you could specify a new path. If not, you'll just have to mess with the innards.01:49
kriel... zombie processes are bad, aren't they?01:49
PirateHeadkriel: Not bad as in freak out, but they aren't helpful.01:50
Pelokriel, not bad persay01:50
bulmermic21-> try it other than sync and see if it makes a difference01:50
Sturmgimp users is dead too01:50
mic21bulmer: because before the change to 192.168.1.0 it was working well, we never had had timeout.01:50
PirateHeadSturm: Pose your question and wait awhile. Somebody will probably come check it out at some point.01:50
PeloSturm, start the gimp , click the help menu , do a search01:50
kriel... Okay, then how would I go about killing zombies? I know, aim for the head and use shotguns. How about something a little more peaceful (and probably effective)01:50
PirateHeadkriel: are you okay with using the command line?01:50
kelsinkriel: do you mean zombie processes that list as "Z" in a ps command?01:51
krielPirateHead: yup.01:51
bulmermic21-> i dont know then, you have to troubleshoot more01:51
krielkelsin: as in system>admin>system monitor lists them as zombie01:51
Pelokriel, kill the parent process if it is a dependency,  check the dependency box in the menu , if you re using the system monitor01:51
brandenWHere art thou Pelo!?01:51
PirateHeadkriel: Run ps (or ps aux or ps auxwww) and filter the output with grep to find your zombies01:51
* Pelo art barely here 01:51
brandenAYe01:51
PirateHeadkriel: Then use awk to find the process IDs, then use xargs kill to kill them al01:51
PirateHeadall*01:51
brandenhey you familiar with vsftpd?01:52
Pelobranden, why do you ask ?01:52
Pelobranden, no I am not01:52
Sturmhelp doesn't work01:52
brandenargen01:52
brandenargh*01:52
* Pelo makes a note, turn off xchat while watching vids 01:53
brandenI dont know, I set up a vsftpd last night and it worked fine, I was trying to connect through a browser and it worked once with the login after that it just went kuput on me, so I snarled and raged and pillaged01:53
branden /sigh01:53
mic21bulmer: ok, i will try the clear the table and to change sync to async. thank you for you help ;)01:53
krielPirateHead: mind PM's?01:53
bulmermic21-> okay, you're welcome01:54
PirateHead!pm | kriel01:54
ubotukriel: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.01:54
Pelobranden, look for a forum for the app or a channel for it01:54
DM|So anyone have any ideas why My compy refuses to let me change to the correct resolution01:54
ehcI am installing zope and ran nc -z -v -w2 localhost 1-65535 to scan for ports. I choose one of the open ports from the scan but it just loads and loads in my browser forever. Do I need to restart the port or something?01:54
PirateHeadkriel: You get points for asking though. :-)01:54
brandenI did, I left at hread on the ubuntu forums and its been 3 days unanswered01:54
PeloDM|, check in the forum there is away to do it , it is realted to yoru nvidia card,  search for nvidia resolution you'll find it, you are not the first one with this issue,  I'm pretty sure the otehrs have solved it01:55
krielPirateHead: hehe. Thanks. Okay, okay... you said to use some utilities that i've never dealt with before. what's ps, what's aux, and... -reads up- what am i filtering for with grep (I've actually used that one!)01:55
Pelobranden, did you search the forum ? usualy more helpfull then posting01:55
gojitahey I want to compile wine... How can I make it check deps?01:55
DM|Pelo whats funny is its been working for every release till bullet proof X was introduced.01:55
brandenYeah but thosse peoples posts werent relevant to the issue I was having01:56
bit0gojita: use "Debian-way"01:56
Pelogojita, wait a few days,  there will be a .deb package for the latest one01:56
kelsinkriel: ps will list processes, once you see the zombie one you can just type "kill <pid>" to kill it, if that doesn't work you can try "kill -9 <pid>" or "sudo kill <pid>" and "sudo kill -9 <pid"01:56
PirateHeadkriel: ps is a program that lists running processes.01:56
operator011Does anyone know what configuration file in Ubuntu-server 7.10 controls the size of the stdout terminal buffer (currently it's 80x25=640x480), but my screen size is 1024x76801:56
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PeloDM|, I'm out of suggestion then01:56
PirateHeadkriel: "ps auxwww" is a command that lists out all the data about all the processes that are running01:56
kelsinkriel: if it's an actual zombie process according to the kernel (with a Z flag in the ps output) you might not be able to kill it01:56
lastkhi, how to make for to show the spaces used and  avaibles in my partitions?01:56
brandenI mean when I started the server I ran "netstat -a | grep ftp" and it says its listening so I know its working, but when it comes to trying to log into it through the browser using an external IP all hell breaks loose01:57
Pelolastk, menu > system > admin > system monitor  last tab01:57
gojitathe compile one says that opengl libraries are needed, if I do it the debain way and "WAIT", will those deps be installed as well?01:57
LjLlastk: df01:57
Pelogojita, yes it will01:57
brandenI can ftp://localhost and it goes through, as in logs in, but if I try ftp://<my ip> nothing01:58
PirateHeadkriel: Once you run ps auxwww, you should be able to find the process IDs of the zombie processes. However, you can automate that by finding them using grep.01:58
gojita*rather: ./configure --verbose01:58
brandenfarts on that I guess01:58
krielooh, here's a fun one. ps dosen't spit out the name of my zombie processes. it only lists ps and bash.01:58
Pelogojita,  you are doing this because you want the very latest right ? you are not jsut trying out wine for the first time right ?01:58
bit0gojita: get sources (apt-src) and build it (look debian.org documentation)01:58
gojitaI want this because I want the very latest, yes01:58
brandenPelo im so glad you mentions wine, I have to instal cs01:58
branden=P01:58
kelsinkriel: "ps aux" or "ps -ef"01:59
PirateHeadkriel: That is probably because you aren't passing the right command to ps. Try typing the command "ps auxwww"01:59
Jack_Sparrowgojita: Bleeding edge comes at a price.. What feature in particular are you trying to add..01:59
PirateHeadkelsin, kriel: the problem with ps aux is that it limits its output to your terminal size to make things "prettier". It isn't suitable for parsing.01:59
Pelogojita, just wait a couple of days,  they guy that makes the deb is usualy pretty quick , I woudlnt, be surprised if it was out tomorow01:59
neur1how do I get conky to run in openbox-gnome?01:59
krielkelsin: the first time i did that it just spit out a help file mabob...01:59
DM|pelo do you have an nvidia card?02:00
lastkLjL : thanks02:00
runlevelok i keep having this gnome issue. just reinstalled with arch64 and when i try to start gnome-terminal.. it wont load...i had this problem in a few other 64bit distros.. anyone know whats up?02:00
krammerwhich program do I user for burning dvds?02:00
PeloDM|,  no I don'T just a plain old , working , intel 856 g02:00
DM|haha02:00
DM|working, yeah..02:00
gojitaI want to see what they've done new, I want to check if there is a new interface, and new functionality to aid in perhaps making wine programs (like mIRC) more like the theme in Gnome02:00
DM|brb02:00
gojitabit0, thanks for advice02:01
bit0gojita: download wine sources  (apt-src install wine) ...02:01
darkmattergojita: wine supports .msstyles. just not fully. some widgets don't skin02:01
bit0gojita: and try to rebuild it02:02
gojitabit0, thanks again, 5 minutes of research saved02:02
LjLdarkmatter: and it's sloooow02:02
bit0gojita: :)02:02
krielokay. I cheated and found the pid using system monitor (2015) and kill 2015 dosen't do anything. All the rest are sleeping. (cept the monitor itself_02:02
darkmatterLjL depends on the theme, but yeah02:02
krammerwhich program do I user for burning dvds?02:02
mic21bulmer: I forget to say about an error (on ther server) when we restart the NFS server (with dmesg) : lockd_down: lockd failed to exit, clearing pid - nfsd: last server has exited - nfsd: unexporting all filesystems02:02
Jack_Sparrowk3b02:02
kelsinkriel: does ps list it as a zombie? Z in the status columb?02:02
kelsincolumn*02:02
racarteris w32codecs still in the medibuntu repository?02:03
eltuxI can't get wine to reinstall right, I had tried to upgrade to 9.50 and it went batty so I tried to remove it and now when I reinstall it, It doesn't run at all02:03
kSid#offtopic02:03
LjLracarter: i think so02:03
bulmermic21-> if there was a lockfile remove it and restart nfs-server02:03
kelsineltux: make sure to clear out your .wine folder also when changing wine versions02:04
eltux:\02:04
krielkelsin: 2015 status: Zl+02:04
kelsinkriel: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/zombies.html you can probably log out and log back in to clear it, but kill and sudo kill and sudo kill -9 might not do it02:04
Jack_Sparrowgojita: just looking at eltux and thinking that might be you tomorrow02:04
eltuxkelsin: should I just delete it?02:04
manduskihey guys, i'm trying to install the new ubuntu on my desktop and i'm stuck on the "Preparing Partitions" part. I have a windows partition and i'm trying to join two others that are labeled "free space" but i can't seem to do that02:04
gojitaLol!02:04
kelsineltux: if you don't have any programs installed that you NEED to keep in there yes02:04
viper550Got it02:04
kelsingojita: you're giving away a lot of usefullness just to learn something that is in the changelog on the wine website02:05
viper550I set my display driver to use VESA instead of ATI, and it works now02:05
eltuxJack_Sparrow: yeah, they say its the new release but when you download the package and install it, it says that its beta software yet02:05
mic21bulmer: which lockfile ? in the /var/lib/nfs directory ?02:05
manduskii want to leave the windows partition alone and create one partition for the filesystem and another one for the swap but i can't seem to be able to combine them02:05
IndyGunFreaklol02:05
kSidmanduski: Goodluck with that ^o)02:05
kelsineltux: wine has been in beta forever, it hasn't had a "stable" release yet02:05
manduskikSid: why, is taht impossible?02:05
Pelomanduski, what do you want to combine ?02:06
bulmermic21-> i would think it is in /var/lock not in /var/lib/nfs02:06
gojitakelsin, I can't understand alot of the terminology they use in the changelog (like... whats Completed I/O completion. or More Valgrinding. mean)02:06
krielerf. Thank you kelsin and PirateHead.02:06
kelsingojita: then it probably doesn't have new features like you want02:06
manduskipelo: i have these"02:06
eltuxkelsin: yeah no kiddin. 0.9.50 still has some major problems though. Steam doesn't work right with it yet02:06
kSidmanduski: Last time I tried that it corrupted my windows partition because it got stuck half way and then when I rebooted into vista, it said the drive is full02:06
kelsineltux: hence the continuous term of "beta"02:06
manduskipelo: i have these two "free space" partitions that i want to combine02:06
PirateHeadkriel: No problem, kriel.02:06
kSidmanduski: But then I used the Vista partition manager to save my computer :)02:06
Pelomanduski,  you need to delete the aprtitons first02:07
Pelomanduski,  you can'T combine them02:07
manduskipelo: i did delete them, that's why they say free space02:07
* IndyGunFreak thinks, "There's an oxymoron, using Vista to save a computer"02:07
bit0manduski: partitions is no "easy", be patient02:07
manduskipelo: why can't you combine them02:07
kelsineltux: it's an extremely ambitious program, that also depends on how well written the program you're trying to run is programmed. It's incredible enough as it is, I can run wow and warIII with no issues, I love it :)02:07
gojitakelsin, good point, BUT I have to say this, I am aimless right now, and am looking to learn and be amused at the latest and greatest.  Just as long as it doesn't break my system02:07
eltuxkelsin: I just did what you said, and now the program that i choose to install it with (wine doors) is crapping out on me02:07
scguy318gojita: Completed I/O completion = they finished the code to support Windows I/O completion02:07
Pelomanduski, so apply the change and tghen you can make a new partition in the free space02:07
Pelomanduski,  not the same FS02:07
scguy318gojita: More Valgrinding = they fixed more memory leaks they found through Valgrind02:08
petr4hello. In "vi" editor in 7.10 undo (U command) does not work. It just switches between two last version of the file02:08
kelsineltux: you're installing wine with winedoors?02:08
kSidIndyGunFreak: I'm sorry, but Vista > ubuntu on this laptop.02:08
mic21bulmer: in /var/lock, I just have two empty directories "apache2" and "lvm"; I found an other lock file called /proc/lock, but I don't think it is that.02:08
kelsineltux: or wine doors is crapping out with the wine from the ubuntu repos?02:08
eltuxkelsin: yeah, it was just easier at the time02:08
gojitascguy318,  Thanks! ^_^02:08
PeloATTENTION PPL WHO WANT TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS OF THE LATEST WINE RELEASE THERE IS A #winehq02:08
kSidIndygunfreak: Ubuntu doesn't even support half of my drivers, I've tried Ubuntu, Suse, and Fedora02:08
IndyGunFreakkSid: i guess we all have uses for something windows makes.02:08
eltuxkelsin: yeah I have the package on my computer and its going batty when it tries to configure it02:08
kSidIndyGunFreak: :)02:09
bulmermic21-> lock files are normally in /var/lock02:09
IndyGunFreakkSid: thats not a lack of Ubuntu support, thats the hardware manufacturers not making linux drivers02:09
kelsineltux: if you're dealing with a wine from winedoors or ANYWHERE other than the ubuntu repos you need to go to them and ask, even if you are it's probably good to ask the wine people02:09
IndyGunFreakkelsin: if hardware manufacturers didn't make windows drivers, they wouldn't work in Windows Vista either02:09
gojitascguy318, kelsin then I likely dont need the latest and greatest, since wait... memory leaks?  thats nifty02:09
kelsinkSid: you should make better choices in laptop purchases then02:09
eltuxkelsin: it still grabs wine from the ubuntu repos02:09
scguy318gojita: of course not, better to stick with a Wine version that works for you02:09
mic21bulmer: when I stop the NFS server, the lockd process are still alive.02:09
kelsineltux: and does other stuff02:10
eltuxkelsin: all it does is prompts the install of wine and comes with the configuration tool (wine doors)02:10
atoukwhere is teh default fonts folder02:10
eltuxkelsin: it just makes it easier to install stuff02:10
kelsineltux: well passed clearing your home dir I don't have any ideas why you're app isn't working02:10
bulmermic21-> so it means its got the lock file stored somewhere else02:10
* Pelo starts makeing a list of ppl to kick forward to #winehq 02:10
kelsineltux: *and by that I mean clearing the .wine folder of course, not your whole home dir02:10
* gojita raises hand02:10
IndyGunFreaklol02:11
eltuxkelsin: well, sudo apt-get remove wine again right? and I'll try deleting .wine again02:11
jribPelo: ?02:12
Pelono idea what just happend02:12
btarda game I am trying to run is performing very poorly. do any of you have any tips for making it run better (drivers, optimizations, etc). it is called frets on fire02:12
* IndyGunFreak wonders if Pelo is trying to crash #ubuntu02:13
kelsinbtard: what video card?02:13
btardradeon 920002:13
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viper550I ended up getting it to work02:13
eltuxkelsin: i tried to reinstall steam from my installer and its giving me a wierd cryptic error02:13
kelsinbtard: make sure you have accelerated rending working, past that I don't have any ideas :-(02:13
cabroni_how can i install and run Crystal Space????02:14
kelsineltux: I already said I don't have any more ideas for you, esp with steam as I have never used it (or ever will)02:14
btardkelsin: how would I check that? and thanks for helping :]02:14
scguy318eltux: check the AppDb02:14
cabroni_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                                          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:14
scguy318eltux: you really should install Steam with a clean Wine directory02:14
Pelocabroni_,  what is crystal space ?02:14
eltuxscguy318: oh its clean alright02:14
Peloand cabroni_  dont do that again02:14
denisbrHello All02:14
kelsinbtard: "glxinfo | grep -i direct"02:14
cabroni_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Space  i have some problems with install it02:15
denisbrHave any method of the to install packages without internet conection, for example, using others CDs ?02:15
grampaDoes Wine run .msi files?02:15
btardglxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:15
kelsincabroni_: "sudo apt-get install crystalspace" is a good start, after that you should read their docs and instructions02:15
Dr_willis!info crystalspace02:15
ubotucrystalspace: Multiplatform 3D Game Development Kit. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 38139 kB, installed size 94956 kB02:15
kelsingrampa: you have to install the windows installer program, I dno't know where to get it, and newer versions don't always work02:16
racarterit looks like i have medibuntu repository set up, but i keep getting the error that w32codecs has no installation candidate02:16
Pelocabroni_, first check in the repos  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager02:16
grampakelsin: Ok, thanks02:16
Piciracarter: Are you on 32bits or 64bits?02:16
jribdenisbr: aptoncd or apt-zip for example02:16
scguy318grampa: yes, wine start msifile02:16
scguy318kelsin: no02:16
jrib!aptoncd > denisbr (read the private message from ubotu)02:16
scguy318kelsin: Wine has support for executing MSIs02:16
cabroni_thanks02:16
kelsinbtard: yeah you def don't have any type of 3d acceleration working, look into installing good ati drivers, I have NO experience with ATI though, so good luck02:16
kelsinscguy318: learn something new everyday :)02:16
scguy318kelsin: AppDb is your friend :)02:16
mic21bulmer: ok I will search for it; if I can't solve the problem, do you think using NFS4 may solve it ? it is as stable as NFSv3 on gusty ?02:17
Pelog'night folks02:17
DM|Pelo every single post online tells me to do the same thing,02:17
scguy318night02:17
kelsinscguy318: well if I was trying to run an msi file I would be looking there not asking people with old info in this channel ;-)02:17
denisbrjrib: thanks ... but, then I need do the download of the packages, ubuntu not offer cds with packages, how eg. the mandriva and slackware02:18
DM|pelo and every single one of those people respond that it doesnt work02:18
scguy318kelsin: lol :)02:18
jribdenisbr: the dvd has the main and restricted repositories, but not universe and multiverse02:18
PeloDM|, I suggest you review the instructions and try to figure out what is wrong with them , I can't help anymore02:18
Xdange1guys i dont know but my trackerd process is causing my cpu usage to be at 70-90%02:18
Pelog'night all02:18
scguy318Xdange1: its indexing, it'll do that for a bit intially, then wont bug again02:19
DM|Anyone here have Nvidia that refuses to change to default resolution on bootup , but I can change it with Nvidia settings, but not with GNOME management02:19
denisbrjrib: very good, then, the DVD is more complete. Where I found a list of the packages in the DVD ?02:19
Xdange1Xdange1: its been doing that for a while now02:19
jribdenisbr: packages.ubuntu.com02:19
bulmermic21-> i dont know ..umm gutsy is stable?02:19
Xdange1its slowing up everyting else02:20
denisbrjrib: thaniks02:20
jribdenisbr: anything from main or restricted afaik02:20
racarterPici, i think i am on 64 bits02:20
scguy318Xdange1: you can go into indexing prefs if you want to stop it02:20
racarterhow can i verify that?02:20
EdwardXPcan someone help me out with a terminal color issue02:20
IndyGunFreakDM|: well if you can change it w/ nvidia settings, does it really mjatter that you can't change it w/ gnome?02:20
Piciracarter: whats the output of uname -a02:20
DM|IndyGunFreak do you really want to change yhe resolution EVERY single time you boot up ?02:21
IndyGunFreakDM|: ok, i see now.. good point.02:21
racarter 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux02:21
kelsinEdwardXP: you should just ask your question, if someone can, they will help02:21
racarterwould it be w64codecs for me?02:21
DM|IndyGunFreak this is a ubuntu problem unfortunately, nothing wrong with my video card or its driver, they borked something bad02:21
scguy318racarter: yep02:21
racarterthanks02:21
kazolWhat's the file with .bash_history logging exceptions? For example, so I could specify to not log commands with the string "cd".02:21
EdwardXPedward@Laptopxp:~/Desktop/MISC MUSIC$ /usr/games/fortune02:21
EdwardXPYour love life will be happy and harmonious.02:21
IndyGunFreakDM|: you could try messing with xorg, but i know little about that.., you could try reconfiguring xorg, and when it asks about the resolution you want, set it to use the one you want.02:21
RAdamsDoes anyone know how to use a key created in Seahorse with Evolution?02:22
DM|IndyGunFreak did that02:22
Xdange1i noticed that with my laptop charger pluged in trackerd process is causing cpu usage to be high, around 70-90%02:22
soberonGood night... I have a digital camera that when is pluged via USB is mounted; but if I insert a memorycard to the camera an plug via USB it is not mounted. I read some about a bug... Please Can you help me?02:22
IndyGunFreakDM|: don't know then02:22
EdwardXPthere both white in the terminal, i want to my sh bang i think its caled to be white and the output to be a different color like green02:22
kelsinDM|: doesn't nvidia-settings have a button to save it's config to xorg.conf?02:22
EdwardXPso i can define the two02:22
DM|kelsin not properly02:22
EdwardXPanyone know how to do that?02:22
IndyGunFreakDM|: it works fine for me.02:22
IndyGunFreakDM|:  are you using sudo?02:22
RAdamsEdwardXP: are you using gnome-terminal?02:23
kelsinEdwardXP: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/02:23
Xdange1i noticed that with my laptop charger pluged in trackerd process is causing cpu usage to be high, around 70-90%02:23
mic21bulmer: I will try if it doesn't work ... I have an other problem : with PAM, i am not able to use the pam_group.so plugin to attach local group to my ldap users ...02:23
IndyGunFreakthats probably the issue right there.02:23
DM|IndyGunFreak yep02:23
racartercan i use opera on 64 bits?02:23
scguy318Xdange1: as I said before, if you want to stop the indexing, go to Indexing Preferences02:23
EdwardXPRAdams,  yah02:23
IndyGunFreakDM|: hmm, well if you used sudo nvidia-settings  then set the resolution you wanted, and saved it, then it should work finem02:23
kelsinEdwardXP: that doc will let you know how to color the bash prompt, but yeah gnome terminal settings like RAdams is getting at will set the default colors02:23
RAdamsEdwardXP: Edit --> Current Profile02:23
kelsinDM|: how not?02:24
bulmermic21-> am not familiar with using ldap's as authentication system02:24
RAdamsBut as kelsin said, you can do it with your bash configs as well02:24
EdwardXPim in there :(02:24
EdwardXPi guess i have to tinker with it still02:24
IndyGunFreakDM|: you're sure you used sudo nvidia-settings?02:24
kelsinEdwardXP: that will let you set the main color to green, to change the color of the prompt and other stuff you might need to edit your bash prompt02:24
RAdamsAnyone know how to use a key created in Seahorse with Evolution?02:24
mic21bulmer: okey, btw thanks a lot for all the details and idea you found ;)02:24
kelsinRAdams: ssh or gpg?02:25
DM|IndyGunFreak yes, its something with ubuntu , alot of people are having this problem02:25
bulmermic21->  no problem02:25
DM|Indygunfreak brb02:25
EdwardXPlete see02:25
HighlifeHey guys I'm not getting any audio out of vlc or mplayer02:25
kelsinRAdams: ahhh didn't read your whole line, you said with evolution :) don't use evolution so I don't know, good luck02:25
invitado_hola02:26
Chris_2kgood morning^^02:26
invitado_helo02:26
kelsinHighlife: it's a stupid question but is the volume up on everything needed? (Right click on the speaker in the system tray and click "Open Volume Control") and make sure stuff isn't muted, low volume02:27
invitado_hola me llamo mariano al alguien??02:27
invitado_hola02:27
Highlifekelsin: yes it is02:27
scguy318!es | invitado_02:27
ubotuinvitado_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.02:27
proqesi!nvidia02:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:27
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invitado_holo02:27
kelsinHighlife: sound works in most other programs?02:28
scguy318invitado: para ayudar en espanol, type /join #ubuntu-es02:28
invitado_mi name is mariano02:28
HighlifeI have a dell 1520 and I had to use the sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-generic to get it to work02:28
scguy318invitado: ya comprendo :) type /join #ubuntu-es para ayudar en espanol02:28
Highlifebut the sound works fine in xine02:28
Highlifeand rythmbox02:29
Highlifeis this even and alsa problem?02:29
kelsinHighlife: did you install the vlc-plugin-alsa package?02:29
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Highlifekelsin: let me check02:29
bloonysoftware for mounting cue/bin files anyone?02:30
scguy318bloony: fuseiso kinda comes to mind, might be able to02:30
doctorzongoi dont think so02:30
bloonyscguy318: k02:30
doctorzongoit wont work02:30
DM|Ok... well I backed up my XORG file to my previous working xorg file and my resolution still refuses to change in gnome02:31
bloonydoctorzongo: aah02:31
bloonyk02:31
doctorzongono you didnt02:31
bloonyanyone else?02:31
doctorzongoand yes it does02:31
doctorzongono one else02:31
Highlifekelsin: its installed now but I'm still not getting sound02:31
doctorzongoits not installed02:31
clanmac10Hey all02:31
stikiis there some gui tool to assist in mounting partitions .. i seem to recall seeing it a couple years ago but I can't seem to find it in the latest release?02:31
EdwardXPthis sucks..02:31
kelsinHighlife: make sure to check in the vlc preferences and try all of the output modules to see if any work02:31
doctorzongono there is not02:31
kelsinHighlife: ( and to make sure sound is enabled in the audio general settings)02:32
doctorzongoit wont work -- that was outdated in version 1.102:32
EdwardXPMy Terminal background is a different color,but  not the the text its white... or whatever i want it to be; --02:32
doctorzongothe text is no white02:33
doctorzongoyour lying02:33
clanmac10I got two questions for you all today; 1.) Is there a reason why the RT61 chipset does not work out the box as RaLink do provide a GPL driver02:33
DM|kelson ?02:33
doctorzongono and no02:33
kelsinEdwardXP: on the Colors tab in the profile editor you can set the text color and background color, you can set them however you want if you uncheck "Use colors from system theme"02:33
DM|kelsin Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'02:33
doctorzongooutdated in version 1.302:33
EdwardXPits like this -/>  hi..    <- this is white.. and the outsource is white too.. which is what i want changed... i can't change the output02:33
doctorzongosorry kelsin02:33
DM|meh02:34
DM|this is frustrating02:34
kelsinDM|: then I would try moving it out of the way, "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.saved" then running nvidia settings and have it save02:34
doctorzongono its not DM|02:34
Highlifekelsin: nun of the modules are working02:34
EdwardXPbah02:34
DM|doctorzongo lies!02:34
doctorzongothey're all working highlife02:34
kelsinHighlife: if you run vlc from the command line do any errors come up when trying to play movies related to the sound?02:35
doctorzongono02:35
Highlifewell I'm not getting sound is what im saying02:35
Highlifeyes02:35
Highlife[00000347] oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)02:35
Highlife[00000347] main audio output error: couldn't find a filter for the conversion02:35
Highlife[00000347] main audio output error: couldn't create audio output pipeline02:35
doctorzongofetuccini alfredo02:35
kelsindo you get that same error if you use the Alsa module?02:35
mrmondaynighthello room02:35
Highlifeyes02:35
kelsinHighlife: pastebin any errors you get02:35
doctorzongokelsin: no he doesnt02:36
kelsin!pastebin | Highlife02:36
ubotuHighlife: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:36
coolbhavihi02:36
btarddoes anyone know of where i can find proper 3d acceleration drivers for linux02:36
clanmac10The second question is, whem compiz-fusion is enabled, when windows are opened up there wigets are above the top panel so you have to hold down Alt+left mouse to move them down. Is there a way to stop them from defaulting in this location ?02:36
bloonyscguy318: fuseiso worked, thx :)02:36
Highlifeim srry i thought about it right after i pasted XP02:36
doctorzongoclanmac10: none02:36
althetuxmanclanmac10:what card?02:36
clanmac10doctorzongo:Was that for question one ?02:36
kelsinHighlife: sorry, lost the convo for a sec, with the alsa module selected do you get that same error? The "oss audio output error"?02:37
doctorzongoclanmac10: the last question you posted02:37
Highlifekelsin: yes i do02:37
btard"does anyone know of where i can find proper 3d acceleration drivers for linux" for radeon 9200 cards, which are graphics cards made by ati (not flooding question but adding on mising detail)02:37
ubuntuanyone have a good how-to fix xorg from the livecd for a hard install?02:37
Highlifeone sec02:37
Highlifei forgot to refresh the list02:38
kelsinHighlife: can you try selecting differen devices under Audio / Output / Alsa (might have to click the refresh list to make them appear)02:38
Highlifethat may be my prob02:38
doctorzongoubuntu: nope -- its impossible02:38
clanmac10doctorzongo:Was that for the first question02:38
juano__ubuntu you have a messed up xorg ?02:38
tech0007anyone knows how to make psp work with ubuntu?02:38
ubuntuall I need is to edit a couple of lines in my xorg.conf file from the livecd02:38
doctorzongoclanmac10: yes02:38
kelsinHighlife: also on the "Output modules" screen, amke sure to click Advanced Options and set the audio output module to "Alsa"02:39
doctorzongoubuntu: i know -- but if you do that it messes up your computer and cuts off internet access -- sorry02:39
juano__ubuntu well by mounting your root partition you can access your xorg.conf file through there02:39
tritiumubuntu: you _could_ remaster it if you really wanted to02:39
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  why not just reconfigure your xorg.conf?02:39
EdwardXP:( arggh its not working...02:39
clanmac10Sorry I pinged out02:39
LOGANis it true you might not make your own version of firefox deluxe and give it away for free? Has firefox copyright issues?02:39
clanmac10doctorzongo:please repeate02:39
juano__ubuntu but i would do what IndyGunFreak suggests02:39
doctorzongoclanmac10: yes02:39
kelsinEdwardXP: your color settings in gnome terminal are not working? How?02:40
ubuntujuano__,  I think that is the problem, when I turn my computer on grub loads fine then it continues to load until all of the sudden it goes into a strange text loop02:40
EdwardXPits like this  C:> time   <--------- this is all white and the output is white too... " i want to change the output colors "02:40
clanmac10I did put a RFI for it02:40
EdwardXPkelsin, it woks02:40
IndyGunFreakubuntu: what has led you to believe this is a xorg issue?02:40
juano__ubuntu ran ubuntu in safe mode from grub ?02:40
doctorzongoUBUNTU: I THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT02:40
ubuntuIndyGunFreak,  juano__  It wont let me log in the scrolling text moves too fast for me to even login02:40
doctorzongoI THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT02:40
doctorzongoI THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT02:40
doctorzongoI THINK GENETICALLY ALTERED TOMATOES PLAY A PART IN THAT02:40
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  you would boot safe mode, which would send you to a cli02:40
kelsinLOGAN: firefox has a complicated license, you can take the code and change it and distribute it for free, but somet things like the icons and art are not free to distribute02:41
clanmac10Just seems like in less then a year opensolaris works out the box with more wifi chipsets then ubuntu has ever done02:41
althetuxmanclanmac10: fglrx drivers from ati02:41
kelsinLOGAN: (I'm generalizing here a lot, you should read the license for more details)02:41
EdwardXPyou know what i mean kelsin02:41
r3n0chi, i'm having a problem when ubuntu loads, no splash screen. and i can't get it fixed given the tutorial in the forum02:41
clanmac10althetuxman:what! I don't have a ATi chipset, its a nv02:41
ubuntuat one point I was able to alt-f2 and enter my login befopre the errors started rolling by and edit xorg to stopp using the new nvidia drivers and use nv instead and I was able to startx02:41
juano__ubuntu try booting safe mode and if you cant , well you can always boot from livecd and mount your root partition02:41
LOGANkelsin: : The code for the program is Open Source, the Name and graphics are not . you can change anything you want, but you can't call it FF and distribute after you have made those changes without Mozilla's permission.02:42
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  choose safe mode from your grub menu, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and take generic settings for everything.02:42
IndyGunFreakthat should get you back to a GUI02:42
ubuntumy grub menu auto load into ubuntu02:42
coolbhaviubuntu,sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command02:42
lazarus_lupinefor example Flock is based on FF02:42
scguy318ubuntu: if you're on the LiveCD try Safe Graphics mode02:42
Highlifekelsin: Alright I have the Advance options box checked and ALSA audio output selected I also have the HDa Intel: STAC92xx Digital device selected in AlSA Device name02:42
kelsinEdwardXP: if you want the "time" part to change you jsut set it in the profile editor for gnome terminal, if you want to change the "C:" part you need to learn how to edit the bash prompt02:42
kelsinLOGAN: yes that's basically what I just said02:42
ubuntuwhats the command for loading the hda1 where ubuntu is installed02:42
LOGANIm no legal expers and most times licenses confuse me because they are written in laywer talk02:42
ubuntulivecd works fine02:43
juano__ubuntu you mean how to mount your partition ?02:43
r3n0chow do i fix the problem where the splash screen never loads.. it is making it take forever for ubuntu 7.10 to load02:43
Dark-Dxany eprom expert here?02:43
ubuntujuano__,  yes02:43
IndyGunFreakchmod something... i do believe.02:43
kelsinHighlife: if you still get the /dev/dsp error when you try to play sound that's very odd, since that's a oss error02:43
LOGANkelsin : just means you cannot make your own version of FF then :(02:43
scguy318r3n0c: you can choose to boot without splash02:43
btard"does anyone know of where i can find proper 3d acceleration drivers for linux" for radeon 9200 cards, which are graphics cards made by ati.02:43
r3n0cscguy318,  where02:43
holzmodemhi, how can i change the font color of gtk apps (kubuntu)02:43
kelsinLOGAN: if you don't call if FF and don't use it's icons you can02:43
juano__ubuntu: it should mount automatically if it detects installation, but if not try sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/somedir02:43
scguy318r3n0c: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst, its in defoptions02:43
EdwardXPi must learn02:43
IndyGunFreak!ati | btard02:44
ubotubtard: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
scguy318r3n0c: this line # defoptions=02:44
scguy318r3n0c: make it look like what I have written02:44
juano__ubuntu: first mkdir /media/rootpart  , then mount /dev/hda1 /media/rootpart02:44
LOGANkelsin : it seems its not even allowed to spread a version with a few preferences changed02:44
scguy318r3n0c: then do sudo update-grub02:44
Highlifekelsin: I'm not getting any errors any mroe02:44
Highlifebut i still don't have sound02:44
r3n0cscguy318,  ok one sec02:44
kSidAnyone know why Ubuntu doesn't know what Monitor my Compaq V3633AU is using?02:44
ufo-radioI am just here02:44
kelsinLOGAN: not if you use their name and icons.02:44
clanmac10Were does MS L@@KOut cache emails ?02:44
juano__ubuntu: from there then just cd /media/rootpart and youll be inside your ubuntu HDD installation02:45
coolbhavihey root partitions are detected by default  first do mkdir /media/rootpart  , then mount /dev/hda1 /media/rootpart02:45
r3n0cscguy318,  so if after deftoptions it says default splash02:45
kelsinHighlife: any messages in /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog?02:45
r3n0cscguy318,  i just take out splash?02:45
EdwardXPi found it :)02:45
coolbhaviif it isnt working mate02:45
IndyGunFreaki still don't understand why he just doesn't reconfigure X, cuz i'm betting he's just gonna hose xorg.conf doing whatever he's gonna do.02:45
juano__coolbhavi: yep i told him that first, but just incase it didnt he would need to do that02:45
scguy318r3n0c: sure, take out quiet if you want to see kernel messages02:45
DILi tried to install vmware and it continually attempts to install each time i update i tried to remove completely from using Synaptic but still ......02:45
EdwardXP$ export PS1="\e[0;31m[\u@\h \W]\$ \e[m "      My Reference!!!!  is here [ http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/bash-shell-change-the-color-of-my-shell-prompt-under-linux-or-unix/ ]02:45
EdwardXPit works without the $ sign though02:46
Highlifekelsin: no02:46
r3n0cscguy318,  what about lower down, in kernel:02:46
IamReckDoes anyone know of any applications or methods used to achieve Dual Monitors for ATI Radeon graphics card?  Other then the ones here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174?02:46
r3n0cshould i take splash out of that too?02:46
coolbhaviyep mate02:46
scguy318r3n0c: change that line only02:46
scguy318r3n0c: then sudo update-grub02:46
althetuxmanclanmac10: sorry ithough u said ati, in that case you need the nvidia drivers, you install them using the restricted drivers application under System -> Administration. Thats how I installed mine.02:46
r3n0ckk02:46
LOGANkelsin : well that dissapointed me a bit. Dont worry I get over it02:46
Dark-DxI assume there's no driver for a via crhome9 hc integreated video card right?02:46
IndyGunFreakIamReck: dualscreens are pretty hard with ATI(i never got it to work)...02:46
LOGANlooking for an alternative right now02:46
IndyGunFreak!twinview | IamReck you can try this02:46
clanmac10althetuxman:Mate I know.. I got the driver setup, thats not the question02:46
ubotuIamReck you can try this: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead02:46
r3n0cscguy318,  ok i'll try reboot'n now02:46
EdwardXPcrap i wanted the output file to change!!!02:46
punkgyDoes anybody know of a way to transfer a file from a ubuntu box to a windows pc, perferrbly with a quick installation02:47
DIL!vmware02:47
IamReck!DualHead02:47
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers02:47
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama02:47
kelsinLOGAN: are you just browsing open source projects looking for something that's fully free in what you can do with it? Starting looking for BSD licensed software02:47
Dark-DxI assume there's no driver for a via crhome9 hc integreated video card right?02:47
IamReckthanks ubotu02:47
althetuxmanclanmac10: whats the prob?02:47
kelsinpunkgy: ssh, using putty on windows and the ssh server on ubuntu02:47
IndyGunFreak!yourwelcome02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yourwelcome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:47
clanmac10When a window opens, the top wigets on the tool bar of that window keep getting stuck under the top panel02:47
Dark-DxI assume there's no driver for a via crhome9 hc integreated video card right?02:48
LOGANkelsin : thanks for the tip02:48
clanmac10So you have to press Alt+left mouse to move it down the screen02:48
althetuxmanclanmac10: strange. I have nerver seen that happen. I have a 7600 GT02:48
clanmac10in other words, how do you default were a window start in the screen on gnaome02:49
clanmac10s/in/on02:49
jrib!devilspie > clanmac10 (read the private message from ubotu)02:49
kelsinclanmac10: you need to look into the "devilspie" app02:49
DILi cannot uninstall vmware it attempts installs each time i update-How can i get rid of it02:50
ubuntuI have five xorg.conf with a bunch of numbers behind them in /etc/x11 is that normal/?02:50
jribubuntu: those are backups02:50
scguy318ubuntu: yes02:51
scguy318ubuntu: what jrib said02:51
r3n0cscguy318,  new question, it loaded just find, and i also did sudo update-rc.d gdm remove02:51
kSidTerminal < Dos02:51
ubuntudoes anyone knwo what this comment means? AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"02:51
r3n0cscguy318,  but when i load i type login... but it then just says password:         never prompting for username02:51
r3n0cscguy318,  then once it fails, it prompts for username02:52
r3n0cscguy318,  anyway to fix this?02:52
blahman32how come when i boot the live cd it boots in 640x400???02:52
scguy318r3n0c: login is the username prompt02:52
scguy318r3n0c: unless I'm missing something?02:52
clanmac10 jrib: many thanks02:52
r3n0cscguy318,  oooo. well it never says username:    it just leaves the cursor flashing after it finishes loading, so i typed login... to start that?02:52
blahman32how do i make it have a bigger resloution?02:52
r3n0cbut i guess that that was the username prompt02:53
scguy318r3n0c: ubuntu prematurely starts the login process on tty102:53
scguy318r3n0c: since it starts the login processes while everything is loading, instead of after02:53
punkgykelsin: do you know what command I would use to transfer the file over to windows while I am logged through putty?02:53
scguy318r3n0c: annoying but not sure how to fix02:53
scguy318r3n0c: a good question tho :)02:54
ubuntuscguy318,  what do you mean that seems like what is happoening02:54
kelsinpunkgy: sorry I didn't explain, on the putty page there is also a puttyscp or something like that program, that's the one to use to transfer files02:54
r3n0cok, so i could just type the username at start? and it'll work , ok. i guess that that is fine02:54
kSidUbuntu is heavier than SuSE02:54
clanmac10Well I am not sure thats what I want although it is what I mean...02:54
punkgyok, that makes sense, thanks02:54
kelsinpunkgy: using the same syntax as scp on linux, so on the windows shell it's like "pscp ubuntu-user@ubuntu-ip:/path/to/file ." or something like that02:54
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  you need a better nickname, everytime someone says ubuntu, it alerts you, not a good idea in ubuntu02:55
clanmac10that is, I want any app to open in the _normal_ place and not particular apply to particular apps02:55
scguy318ubuntu: ?02:55
IndyGunFreakscguy318: he's delirious02:55
scguy318IndyGunFreak: apparently :P02:55
kelsinpunkgy: (the other solution is to make sure simple file sharing is on on windows and then share a folder and you should be able to browse to it through nautilus and the "Place -> Network" menu in ubuntu, but I always go for the command line way ussually :)02:56
* emgent heya02:56
naegling23hey, is anyone familiar with firestarter/networking?02:56
holzmodemhi, how can i change the font color of gtk apps manually, cause of the definition in "kcontrol>appearance and themes" is ignored.02:56
kelsinclanmac10: probably not possible with gnome / metacity, devilspie can probably make rules for ALL apps, still probably your best bet02:56
kelsinnaegling23: better just to ask your question, people will answer if they knwo anything02:56
clanmac10why should it do it in the first place02:57
clanmac10its move of a bug if you ask me02:57
kelsinclanmac10: I must have missed the initial conversation, where is it placing your apps now?02:57
clanmac10windows should default in a area of the screen were you can access there widgets02:57
IamReckwhat is the name of the room for compiz help?02:57
scguy318!compiz | IamReck02:58
ubotuIamReck: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion02:58
r3n0cwhat media player should i be using? get rid of the built in one and use vlc?02:58
ubuntuI can't edit the xorg.conf it is read only02:58
naegling23ok, so here it goes, I have two computers on my network, one is fine (I removed iptables from it), the other one can access the internet, but not the internal network, in firestarter, i get a cannot start firewall error02:58
scguy318r3n0c: whatever you want02:58
scguy318r3n0c: though that's what I would do :P02:58
scguy318!players | r3n0c02:58
ubotur3n0c: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs02:58
ubuntudo i need to issue a rename command to the xorg.conf.backup file  somehow?02:58
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  yuou've spent 20min doing this the wrong way, if you'd do what i told you to, it would take tyou about 2.02:58
r3n0cscguy318,  just b/c after i updated and had it load to text mode, so i have todo startx.... when i try to play movies with vlc or the built in player... it crashes02:59
clanmac10the top part of the app, that is the windows tool part with the - |=| + at the top gets stuck under the top panel every time you open any app02:59
r3n0cscguy318,  the built in one is totem02:59
ubuntuIndyGunFreak,  I would do it that way but grub doesnt give me an option for safe mode so I have to do it this way02:59
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  then you removed it... cuz grub puts 3 linux entries, normal, recovery, and memtest03:00
ubuntuGrub just boats into an insane error loop03:00
kelsinclanmac10: ok that is wierd, normally that should not happen, this on a pretyt new ubuntu install?03:00
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  do yuou see your grub menu?03:00
Jack_Sparrowubuntu: I use this to make my backup  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)03:00
eltuxhow would I go about removing my /usr/local directory?03:00
r3n0cX Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)03:00
r3n0cwhen i try to play a movie that worked before having to type startx to run the gui03:01
r3n0cshould i not be doing startx?03:01
r3n0cstart-gnome? or something03:01
Jack_Sparrowubuntu: Were you trying to adjust the screen res, video drivers03:01
ubuntuIndyGunFreak,  I have never messed with grub since I installed 6.10 as soon as i power my compuetr on it goes from bios to grub loading press escape then Starting up then errors03:01
clanmac10kelsin:yep 7.1003:01
scguy318r3n0c: im clueless in that area unfortunately03:01
jribeltux: just delete it03:01
jrib!cli > eltux (read the private message from ubotu)03:01
r3n0ckk, from text login i do type startx tho... to get everything to load03:01
kelsinclanmac10: so the top appears beneath the top gnome panel?03:01
eltuxjrib: its saying I don't have permission for one of the files03:02
kelsinclanmac10: did this start happening at any point, or did it do this from the beginning?03:02
ubuntuJack_Sparrow,  the last thing I did was get dual monitor support with nvidia gui it worked fine resatarted then errors03:02
DM|kelsin still there?03:02
scguy318r3n0c: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start or that perhaps03:02
jribeltux: you are using sudo?03:02
Jack_Sparrowubuntu: so the answer is yes03:02
kelsinclanmac10: I would try to right click ont he panel and change it's positon to the bottom and back to the top, and then change it's size and then put the size back to maybe reset the X settings dealing with parts of the screen like that03:03
eltuxjrib: whats the command to delete in the console? I forget (<- still a linux nooblet)03:03
eltuxterminal*03:03
ubuntuIndyGunFreak,  No i dont see the grub menu I have had a dual boot configuration on this machine before so I know what you mean by selecting safe mode from the grub menu03:03
kelsinDM|: I'm still listening yes, but you're better off just asking your question with kelsin: at the front, I'll respond if I can/am here03:03
ubuntuJack_Sparrow,  Yes03:03
jribeltux: ubotu's message explains, but it is 'rm -rf PATH'.  Be *very* sure you did not make a typo03:03
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ubuntuJack_Sparrow,  Currently I am in livecd03:03
eltuxjrib: okay. thank you03:03
DM|Kelsin I finally solved it... i had to fiddle and fiddle and fiddle.. for some reason ubuntu is set up to default to a low graphics if x crashes, which is fine, without this "bullet proof X" it was easier to fix...03:03
ubuntuI have my hd install mounted03:04
IndyGunFreakubuntu:  if you're not seeing a grub menu, then you have more problems than jsut a display issue.03:04
Jack_Sparrowubuntu: you may now need to hit esc to get to grub for recovery mode..03:04
DM|Kelsin wasnt a question hehe just talking03:04
Jack_Sparrowubuntu: later.. time for dinner03:04
kelsinDM|: glad to hear it03:04
ubuntuJack_Sparrow,  Ahh that helps03:04
rewkshello03:04
rewkshow to install GRUB to my sata?03:04
ubuntuThanks guys canonical should hire you!03:04
wsv123456libdvdplay0?03:04
DM|kelsin now im going to go start a sit in to get rid of bullet proof x03:04
rewkssetting grup install to (sd0) instead (hd0) failed... :(03:04
scguy318wsv123456: ?03:04
r3n0c_scguy318,  lol well um it wasn't very happy while trying to start gdm while i was ..... already using gnome lol03:04
r3n0c_scguy318,  but i'll see if the videos work now03:05
rewkshow to install grub to MBR or sata (sda)?   sd0 fails...03:05
scguy318rewks: you shouldn't write sd0, its like hd(number, number)03:05
dmitrig01burning!03:05
kelsinrewks: grub uses it's own naming scheme, sda might be called hd003:05
rewksscguy318: orly? so whats the no for sda ?03:06
r3n0c_scguy318,  ok well it works now.... would it be possible to do gdm.... instead of startx... at login?03:06
rewkskelsin: if hd0 is sda then what is hda and hdb ?03:06
kelsinit depends on your computer, if you're inside of grub (meaning you typed grub and are on a grub prompt) you can type hd and hit tab to see some info03:06
rainwalkerWhy doesn't AWN use my icon theme?03:06
rewkskelsin: Im installi'n ubuntu03:06
PirateHeadrainwalker: AWN uses its own theme engine.03:06
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Dr_willisbecause awn has its own icons i thought. and themes03:06
scguy318r3n0c_: if gdm doesnt start automatically you'll prob have to do that, dont quote me on that03:07
rainwalkerPirateHead: Ah, ok then03:07
kelsinrewks: grub uses it's own COMPLETELY DIFFERENT naming scheme, it calls hard drives hd0, hd1, etc has nothing to do with hda, sda and the like03:07
tntCrymy ubuntu doesnt understand my mouse bindings03:07
SithReehas there been a release of the vmware optimized version of Ubuntu yet?03:07
PirateHeadrainwalker: Eventually AWN and Gnome may get better integration, but keep in mind that AWN is still a very young project.03:07
clanmac10 kelsin: Yes thats correct, it started happening after a dpkg-configure xserver-xorg and a new nvidia card to start using compiz-fusion03:07
kelsinrewks: this is an error you're getting while installing?03:07
tntCryi cant press the back and forward buttons to use them as back forward03:07
rainwalkerPirateHead: even though the applets use the icons from my theme?03:07
* rewks slaps grub for using strange conventions03:07
naegling23so, firestarter is unable to start my firewall, can anyone help me out here, Im connected through a router, but im getting two devices, eth0 and eth1, should I have both?03:07
r3n0c_scguy318, ... omg... .is r3n0c still online....... that is me...03:07
Dr_willisnaegling23,  one may be your wireless?03:07
r3n0c_scguy318, ... hmmm running starx... then gdm... is just bad... i'm logged in twice03:07
naegling23nope, no wireless here03:07
rewksthanks03:08
PirateHeadrainwalker: It isn't that there is no integration. If you are interested in the specifics, you can check out what documentation there is, ask the email list, dig through the source code, and so on.03:08
rainwalkerPirateHead: also, wouldn't GTK integration be more important than GNOME integration?03:08
scguy318r3n0c_: if GNOME is already running switch to the terminal that the X server is running on03:08
scguy318r3n0c_: Ctrl-Alt-F7 or w/e03:08
geck1anyone familiar with compiz that can help me out with skydome? I have an image selected, but it only displays the gradient in the background03:08
naegling23should I try to remove one of them somehow?03:08
PirateHeadrainwalker: GTK is desktop-agnostic, so it doesn't deal with GNOME's icon themes, configuration, and so on.03:08
scguy318r3n0c_: you dont need to start X twice, unless I'm missing someting03:08
r3n0clol omg03:08
PirateHeadrainwalker: For AWN to totally fit into the Ubuntu desktop, it will need integration both on the GTK and Gnome levels.03:09
r3n0cthis is sweet... but useless03:09
r3n0cgonna just restart and see if i can fix03:09
rainwalkerPirateHead: ah, I was just thinking GTK03:09
naegling23gek1, make sure the image is set as a plugin in compiz settings03:09
tntCrywhy does ubuntu doesnt know the button forward and back03:09
tntCryin the mouse03:09
belylegek1: also make sure that the image is sized to a power of 2 in each direction03:09
geck1naegling can you elaborate please03:09
geck1eh im a total noob at compiz i jus tDLed it today03:09
pg!automation03:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automation - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:10
geck1power of 2 meaning if my desktop is 1280x1024, the image should be like 2560x2048?03:10
naegling23gek1, go to the compiz settings manager, go to the image loading area, make sure that all the images are selected03:10
tntCryi know you can forward by holding left mousebutton then tappiong on the right and for left its reciprocal but theyr is a binding in some new mouses where you can forward back easily just by tapping like in windows .. any ideas ? must i buy a new mouse?03:10
geck1yes naegling, they are all selected03:10
belylegeck1: no, power of two meaning two^(something) ie 512, 1024, 2048 etc03:10
ConstyXIVwasn't there some sort of orange/black version of the gutsy wallpaper during a beta?03:11
btard!console03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:11
btard!konsole03:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:11
Flannel!cli | btard03:11
ubotubtard: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal03:11
geck1belyle, so if my desktop is 1280x1024, what size does the skydome image need to be?03:12
kelsinrewks: grub is running at a level below the linux kernel, it makes sense it doesn't use the linux kernel's conventions cause it can be used on any computer, not only ones with linux03:12
belylegeck1: actually, the skydome size really has nothing to do with your desktop size03:12
maynardhow u gonna ban people if there is no operator03:12
geck1belyle, i dont know if i follow what you mean then about the power of 2?03:13
belylegeck1: you can make it any size, although I recommend about a 1024x1024 if you aren't running a widescreen03:13
kelsinclanmac10: are you using metacity or compiz atm?03:13
rainwalkerbelyle: so if I do have a widescreen, what size should the skydome be?03:13
operator011geck1: Do you mean Xx2 or X^2?03:14
belylewell, 2^1 = 2, 2^2=4 ... 2^5=32 ... and so on, 512 is a power of two, 1024 is a power of two, etc03:14
geck1operator011, i'm not sure =P belyle was saying something about it03:14
geck1belyle but what are you making a power of 2?03:14
geck1oh just the skydome image size?03:14
Dextorionany recommendation for a webmail system?03:15
r3n0cscguy318, ... ok i have to login 2x now.....03:15
belylegeck1: the dimensions of the image. but as was said before, you need to make sure the plugin is enabled (check mark) for the skydome, and the plugin for that image type is enabled03:15
Dextorioni've heard about squirrelmaiil before if i recall correctly..?03:15
geck1both are enabled, i double checked....yet it still wont show the image03:15
r3n0cscguy318,  it loads fine to text... i login.. type sudo gdm... then it runs gdm... which makes me login again.. in visual mode, then it loads gnome03:15
rainwalkerwhere's the info page for Compiz Fusion? someone is asking about it and I don't know where to tell them to look03:15
roxygir3hi, i'm having troubles burning an .iso to DVD with dvdrecorder from terminal03:15
r3n0crainwalker,  what info.. like the config?03:16
geck1is there a resolution limit?03:16
rainwalkerr303:16
rainwalkerr3n0c: no, like the page that explains what it is and all that03:16
clanmac10 kelsin:Sorry I did not see you reply, compiz03:16
tomd123geck1, it's only limited by your monitor03:16
r3n0crainwalker, o... sry, all i remember is to open the config... ccsm03:16
geck1hmm k03:16
kelsinclanmac10: I would check out gconf-editor and goto "apps -> compiz" and make sure nothing about "struts" is unchecked, but I'm not running compiz so hard for me to help you past this :) good luck03:17
tomd123geck1, and your system's stats03:17
r3n0cbrb03:17
geck1kk, i'll keep tinkering away, i may be back for more help =) thanks guys03:17
Nivek_Ogreover 1k users in here wow03:18
ethana2Anyone know where the psubuntu channel is?03:18
kelsinDextorion: might want to look at Bongo if you need lots of features03:19
ethana2oh, nvm-- it doesn't exist yet03:19
ethana2Anyone here a psubuntu user?03:19
bazhangethana2: what is that channel for? you can access the channel list with the commmand !irc03:20
ethana2Ubuntu on the PS3 cell processor03:20
IowaDaveEvening y'all. Where do I find errors logged for OpenOffice crashes?03:20
bazhangethana2: net install?03:20
ethana2but I found out they didn't make one yet, so nevermind03:20
kelsinIowaDave: might be in ~/.xsession-errors03:20
clanmac10kelsin:Ok understood, many thanks for the help. What are "struts"?03:20
ethana2no, I wanted to keep track of developments in psubuntu03:20
IowaDavekelson: thanks, will look there.03:20
ethana2before I bought a ps303:20
kelsinclanmac10: the gnome panel defines a "strut" (I think) which means don't place windows here :)03:20
ketroxwhere is the modprobe.conf in gutsy ?03:20
batmansboyhi.. I just upgraded to gutsy gibon and added the trash and home folder to my desktop via the configuration editor .. but now they're not showing up even though they're checked in the config editor .. any ideas?03:20
bazhangethana2: not sure though there is a walkthrough on how to do it03:21
kelsinclanmac10: I knwo in windows managers like FVWM and other VERY configurable ones you can tell certain windows to ignorestruts etc03:21
ethana2right..03:21
kelsinclanmac10: so clearly either gnome-panel is not defining them, or compiz is not listening03:21
ethana2but I wanted to contribute ideas in real time...  they just need to get a channel up03:21
ethana2which hasn't hapenned yet03:21
bazhangethana2: set one up yourself03:21
ethana2How do I do that?03:21
ethana2can I do that on freenode?03:22
Nivek_Ogrecompiz problem. was working for 2 days no problem, then i restarted and now I can't make it work. i've enabled/disabled/enabled restricted drivers. suggestions?03:22
bazhangethana2: read the freenode faq03:22
ethana2got it03:22
ethana2!faq03:22
ubotuA list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage03:22
Kragneracubuntu03:22
ethana2lol..03:22
ethana2a minute03:22
clanmac10kelsin: Oh ok I know what your talking about now03:23
maynardwhat is this channel about????03:23
bazhanghttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml ethana203:23
clanmac10Your on form, thanks again for the help !03:24
bazhangubuntu support maynard03:24
maynardbazhang what is ubuntu? a game? lol03:24
kelsinmaynard: ubuntu.com03:24
kelsinmaynard: linux distro03:24
bazhangmaynard: a linux distribution03:24
maynardahh yeah03:24
IndyGunFreaklol03:25
IndyGunFreak!ubuntu03:25
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com03:25
Nivek_Ogreok i'll just scour the forums then03:25
batmansboyhi. how can I get the home and trash icons to reappear on my desktop?03:25
r3n0cscguy318,  ok it works now... no idea why... but thanks :)..... the mouse looks diff now that i did startx... but who cares (looks like windows mouse, not normal ubuntu one)03:25
IndyGunFreakmaynard: so how did you end up wandering in here if you didn't even know what linux was?03:25
antonio__hola03:26
antonio__Hi03:26
bazhanghello03:26
antonio__Where are the spanish03:27
bazhang!es03:27
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.03:27
Dr_willis!es03:27
antonio__ok bye03:27
bazhangbye03:27
r3n0clol03:27
Dr_willisAdiaos Amigos!03:27
Dr_willis:)03:27
bazhanghehe03:27
odinrikoin gutsy how do I get a build environment?03:27
Dr_willis!info build-essential03:27
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB03:28
Dr_willisinstall  build-essential  for a start03:28
IowaDavekelsin (or anybody): looking in .xsession-errors for clues to multiple OpenOffice crashes I find a whole lot of these: Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed."03:28
IowaDaveterminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::sdbc::SQLException'03:28
odinrikoThanks Dr_willis03:28
IowaDaveSorry guys, hit the return key too soon.03:28
iforgotMy fonts are too big (i've put Xft.dpi: 96 in Xft.xrdb, but it doesn't seem to affect it at all). Using Xubuntu 4.10. Can anyone help me?03:29
qazwsxis ther ea way to redirect stderr to stdout, and then pipe stdout to anothyer prog? I don't want to send it to a file ... i want to send it t oanother prog03:29
IowaDaveAnyway lots of mentions of the pager needing to be fixed but only one instance of terminating after the Sun sql exception, which would relate to OpenOffice. Any ideas where else I can look for clues to what's breaking?03:30
bazhangiforgot 4.10? why not a more recent one?03:30
SnakeHey you guys, I just got gutsy running, and I know it has compiz built in, and it was working before, well I just installed the closed source ATI drivers, and now its broken... any way to fix it?03:31
Dr_willisprog1 | pr0g2 for one part.. i also recall the use of &1 and &2 some how for pipint the err and out somewhere.. perhaps progra  &1 | prog2 ?03:31
SnakeNever mind03:32
Snakegoogle is a charm03:32
clanmac10ping03:33
Lore2seems kinda quiet03:33
Lore2eh03:33
Lore2nick Lore103:33
Lore2blah03:33
operator011Google's just the librarian.  Ubuntu are the authors.03:33
scguy318qazwsx: sure03:33
IowaDaveLore2: you are not alone.03:34
scguy318qazwsx: 2>&103:34
scguy318qazwsx: command 2>&1 > abc03:34
clanmac10For anyone who had my problem; you have to make sure "Place Window" is checked in the compiz advanced configure unser system. Just for the IRC logs ;)03:34
scguy318clanmac10: what was your problem? :)03:34
iforgotMy fonts are too big (i've put Xft.dpi: 96 in Xft.xrdb, but it doesn't seem to affect it at all). Using Xubuntu 7.10. Can anyone help me?03:34
clanmac10Please add this to the FAQs03:34
Dr_willis 2>&1 alwaya confused me03:35
clanmac10scguy318: see the last 5min log files03:35
clanmac10thanks all, bye03:35
scguy318clanmac10: not in the last 5 minutes of my chat :P03:35
Lore2anyone know why I can't change nicknames using /nick?03:35
iforgotmake sure there are no spaces in your nick?03:36
Lore2yeah03:36
mattycozehey guy's i'm having trouble mountin my external hD. there was something else i had to add but i totally forgot... this is my fdisk -l data; /dev/sdb1   *           1       38913   312568641    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)03:36
Lore2i did03:36
iforgotright now you are Lore203:36
IowaDaveNick left the room :-P03:36
techqbertdo I need putty to tunnel ssh?  what if I want to tunnel vnc through ssh from gnu/linux to gnu/linux03:36
Lore2 /nick lorek != name change.03:36
dutchie86leave03:36
scguy318techqbert: no, you can use the cmd-line ssh03:36
mattycozeand once i have it mounted i just want Ubuntu to auto mount anything i attach :p03:37
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Undead_Zeushow do i access the partition manager?03:37
Lor1odd03:37
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ni1Undead_Zeus: gparted is awesome, try it03:38
antonio__somebody can helme with compiz ?03:38
Undead_Zeusroighto. i shall03:38
Mr_Awesom1Undead_Zeus gparted is the way to go03:38
techqbertscguy318: just ssh ip.ip.ip.ip -l user -p (sshport) and then vncviewer ip.ip.ip.ip:(sshport)?03:38
Undead_Zeusyou guys have 1 at the end of your names03:38
scguy318techqbert: no03:38
Undead_Zeusis that a pidgin bug? it was happening to me03:38
scguy318techqbert: you have to do like03:38
Mr_Awesom1i'm using gaim03:38
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nillllits just because someone else owns the nick03:38
Mr_Awesom1dunno what's up with it03:38
nillllalso matty, try looking up fstab03:38
nillllit might be in there somewhere03:39
nillllbut i dunno03:39
scguy318techqbert: ssh x.x.x.x -l user -p port -L 5900:127.0.0.1:5900 then vncviewer 127.0.0.1::port03:39
scguy318techqbert: note the two colons in the vncviewer syntax, i believe that's what you put when you mean port instead of screen03:39
scguy318techqbert: though if its on 5900, dont have to specify port03:39
mattycozeni1111 that was a fstab -l functioin03:39
scguy318techqbert: and I have the forward on local 5900 -> 127.0.0.1:5900, change as you wish03:40
alephnullAre there any general guidelines to do a edgy -> gutsy upgrade.03:40
Undead_ZeusWith GParted, how am I supposed to shorten the ext3 partition?03:40
scguy318alephnull: you can cleaninstall if you dont want to do liek 2 upgrades03:40
user013hey03:40
techqbertscguy318: that L parameter is tunnel right?03:40
scguy318techqbert: local tunnel yes03:40
tritiumalephnull: you have to upgrade incrementally03:40
nilllllol wut?03:41
nillllsudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:41
tritium!enter | nillll03:41
ubotunillll: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!03:41
eriscocan linux nvidia drivers handle 8600/8800 GPUS?03:41
tomd123i heard they had problems with 880003:41
astro76!upgrade | alephnull03:41
Undead_ZeusWith GParted, how am I supposed to shorten the ext3 partition?03:41
ubotualephnull: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:41
nillllUndead: what do you mean by shorten? shrink?03:42
Undead_ZeusYeah, shrink, resize to a smaller amount03:42
astro76Undead_Zeus, click partition, click resize, resize it.... the partition has to be unmounted first03:42
nillllUndead: if thats the case, boot with a linux live cd, and then try it. I believe you need to have the drive unmounted03:42
Undead_ZeusLOL, ok! thanks03:42
Undead_Zeusi had a feeling if i unmounted it right now it would reboot!03:42
Undead_Zeus:P03:42
dutchie86check the FAQ alephnull but from what i have seen it should go okay03:42
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mattycozehey guy's i'm having trouble mountin my external hD. there was something else i had to add but i totally forgot... this is my fdisk -l data; /dev/sdb1  * 1  38913 312568641  c W95 FAT32 (LBA03:43
nillllUndead: it probably won't let you unmount, if its your / drive. use live cd if that happens03:43
MalachiWhere do I add the 'vga=xxx' option to my GRUB?03:43
Neoxeekhrobeguys in KDE(kubuntu) when I use tab button to move around within a dialog window I am unable to see where the focus is going. If there are too many fields and buttons, I am forced to use the mouse. Is there a way to change this so that I could see the focus move?03:43
alephnulldutchie86: That's the answer I was looking for :)03:43
scguy318Malachi: defoptions I think03:43
scguy318Malachi: then sudo update-grub03:43
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scguy318Malachi: its commented, but dont remove the comment symbol03:43
Shadow147I am trying to get GLX and OpenGL working using a graphics card that came with my computer?03:43
scguy318!glx | Shadow14703:44
MalachiOh, thanks for the comment information, scguy31803:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi03:44
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astro76Neoxeekhrobe, ask in #kubuntu03:44
scguy318Malachi: that line is in /boot/grub/menu.lst03:44
scguy318!compiz | Shadow14703:44
ubotuShadow147: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion03:44
Neoxeekhrobeok. Sorry. Thanks03:44
scguy318Shadow147: well, on second thought03:44
scguy318Shadow147: what card is it?03:44
MalachiIf I have two sound cards, one being a USB one, can I use them simultaneously?03:45
Shadow147scguy318 nvidia GeForce2 GTS/PRO03:45
[My fonts are too big (i've put Xft.dpi: 96 in Xft.xrdb, but it doesn't seem to affect it at all). Using Xubuntu 7.10. Can anyone help me?03:45
Shadow147and I am usign the Legacy Drivers03:45
techqbertscguy318: thanks for that lil tutorial.  take it ez.03:46
Shadow147using*03:46
eriscocan linux nvidia drivers handle 8600/8800 GPUS?03:46
hal9k2010hello all03:46
Shadow147the restricted ones03:46
yaowhat happpen?03:46
Shadow147scguy318 the restricted legacy drives03:47
mattycozecan anyone help me mount an external HD?03:47
Shadow147mattycoze what type of external drive is it03:47
scguy318Shadow147: you probably want to tweak your xorg.conf and use...nv03:47
scguy318Shadow147: think those are it03:48
mattycozeShadow147 it's a Segate03:48
hal9k2010anyone can help me with update  my desktop enviroment ?03:48
scguy318Shadow147: or else use an older Nvidia restricted03:48
hikenbootgreetings /lib/udev/vol_id -u /dev/sda1 gives me a UUID however when I try and mount it under chroot it says it doesnt exist ..anyone know why03:48
mattycozeShadow137 i've always had trouble getting it to automount03:48
Shadow147oh just plug it into a firewire port03:48
yaoI am playing!03:48
mattycozeShadow147 doesn't have a firewire connection... just USB03:49
Shadow147mattycoze try plugging it into a firewire port03:49
mattycozewhich is all good -03:49
Shadow147mattycoze ok03:49
mattycozelsusb shows up with the device connected03:49
bazhangyao: do you have a question?03:49
Shadow147mattycoze well you aint losing much transfer rate03:49
yaoyeah!03:50
mattycozemmm... well that's not the point here lol03:50
Shadow147mattycoze well I have it hook up through a firewire port and ubuntu automounted it03:51
PocketBrainYo, Konda?03:51
Shadow147mattycoze well try sudo apt-get install usbmount03:51
mattycozeShadow147 ahh thanks - since when did they have a program that did that?03:52
scguy318mattycoze: If I'm not mistaken, the gnome volume daemon or w/e is supposed to automount03:52
Shadow147scguy how do I tweak the xorg.conf fire to use GLX and OpenGL03:52
Shadow147scguy318 how do I tweak the xorg.conf fire to use GLX and OpenGL03:53
mattycozescguy318 yeh it used to when i was runnign an earlier version of Ubuntu03:53
scguy318Shadow147: not totally sure, that's what I know03:53
dutchie86Shadow147 there is a utility u can install that will do it for you03:53
mattycozebut i took out the usb once without safe unmounting the drive03:53
EdwardXPdamn thats really hard03:53
scguy318mattycoze: check SYstem -> Prefs -> Removable Drives and Media I think03:53
mattycozeand then it didn't work anymore03:53
scguy318mattycoze: maybe the data on that device needs an fsck03:54
mattycozemmm03:54
dutchie86mattycoze mount it then have a look at dmesg or /var/log/errors i think it is03:54
Shadow147dutchie86 where can I get the utility03:54
spiffmanso i'm trying to dual boot  xp and ubuntu, but installed xp second... now i have no way of booting the ubuntu i installed...?03:54
astro76!fixgrub | spiffman03:55
ubotuspiffman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:55
PocketBraingreat, I'm gonna get usbmount on my DSL-N thumb03:55
dutchie86Shadow147 in the latest version it is already installed under Sytem -> Prefs -> Desktop Effects i believe03:55
mattycozei'm having trouble mounting it soz dutchie8603:55
scguy318spiffman: use Super GRUB CD to reinstall GRUB03:56
scguy318spiffman: or what ubotu suggested03:56
noyesblug03:56
spiffmanastro76 and scguy318, thanks!03:56
dutchie86mattycoze, yeah if you plug it in, and it doesnt automount because of an error dmesg or the logs should tell you why03:56
Shadow147dutchie86 it wouldn't allow me too03:56
mattycozeright... then brb03:56
nautI can't get sound from my tv card in gutsy03:56
nauthttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24008003:56
nautI believe this is my problem03:57
nautBut I don't know how to configure this setting on my card - an audigy03:57
dutchie86Shadow147 what you mean it wouldn't allow you to? did it give you an error when you tried to launch the app?03:57
nautany one know how to turn off the line out == sorround?03:57
Shadow147dutchie86 could not enable Desktop Effects03:57
dutchie86Shadow147 what kind of graphics card do you have03:58
gojitaI installed the budget dedicated repo for wine, but doing a "sudo apt-cache show wine" shows wine 9.46 available.  For some reason it is going to the universal repo and doesn't see the budget dedicated offering currently posted to the site03:58
mattycozedutchie86 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46528/03:58
Shadow147dutchie86 Nvidia GEforce2 GTS/PRO PCI Card03:59
jribgojita: 1) don't run apt-cache with sudo  2) did you 'sudo apt-get update' ?03:59
astro76gojita, hmm so it does... but the latest will still install, also you don't need sudo with apt-cache03:59
jacobcrimsun: thanks for your help03:59
jacobcrimsun: i got everything working fine03:59
gojita1) thanks for thie insight! 2) yes03:59
froggy__Could not generate Platform Configurator and/or compiler not functioning,03:59
froggy__you may not be able to compile/build any programs on this system. Please03:59
froggy__review any errors encountered above and consult with vendors.03:59
gojitaastro76, ok thanks, I am installing through that way instead then04:00
dutchie86mattycoze it appears it is working ok there04:00
jribgojita: :) 'apt-cache policy wine' will show you what is going on probably04:00
scguy318froggy___: install build-essential package04:00
rytywhich is insecure, gutsy, or hardy?04:00
dutchie86Shadow147 did you install the restricted drivers for it?04:00
froggy__how do I do that?04:00
gojita..they have .50 available now04:00
jribryty: if you mean "unstable", then hardy04:00
[mattycoze: check your fstab for the lulz04:00
Shadow147dutchie86 yes04:00
rytyokay thanks04:00
frank_hello all04:01
mattycoze<[> okay ... have hada  look at that already tho - i'll pastebin it for u04:01
[mattycoze: /etc/fstab. i had this problem before too, but i can't remember how i fixed it.04:01
gojitajrib, nice! yeah that work04:01
gojitas04:01
dutchie86Shadow147 does it grey out the option to enable effects?04:01
Shadow147dutchie86 no04:01
dutchie86so what happens when you enable it? shadow14704:02
Shadow147dutchie86 I also don't have compiz-fusion installed04:02
frank_having an issue with uprading to gutsy gibbon through the package manager...its claiming a network issue. any ideas?04:02
kupesoftWhat's a good mp3/music player (compare: rhythmbox) that uses xine (xubuntu)?04:02
mattycoze<[> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46529/04:02
dutchie86Shadow147 install that and give it a try, what version of ubuntu you running?04:03
Shadow147dutchie86 starts the enabling but halts and reverts back04:03
card13Ubuntu crashed my hdd I need help, I can't put a partition on it now04:03
sleepwal1hey you guys...does anyone know if the ati 9800 will work in xubuntu 7.10 with my current samsung 22' LCD which is fuzzy.04:03
Shadow147dutchie86 Gutsy04:03
frank_feisty fawn04:03
itstcan anyone help?04:03
itstpam_quota.c:36:34: error: security/pam_modules.h: No such file or directory04:03
mattycoze<[> your display names impossible to type quickly ahhh!04:03
ridge-meisteris there a way i can get to kaffeine, xine and movie player to allow me to brighten a video? the video setting on each isn't doing the trick04:03
coolbhaviwhere to post an abuse report?04:03
dutchie86coolbhavi what kind of abuse report?04:03
K_DallasGood evening! One of my major problems running exclusively ubuntu on the laptop is office2007 files.  I know crossover is capable of installing office2003 and f I am not mistaken MS offers something to make office2003 to open office2007 or something of this sort.  My Q: Would it be possble to install office2003 thru crossover office and then install that tool of MS? Thanks04:04
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card13help me please!  Thanks in advanced.04:04
dutchie86K_Dallas probably, something i would look at the Xover office site for04:04
dutchie86mattycoze in the dmesg output you pasted before it should show where it mounted before, was there some output missing?04:04
K_Dallasdutchie86, thanks, i then google their site for that04:04
ajmorris_K_Dallas: open office can open those office2007 files as well04:04
DrUnKnMuNkYhi i'm having problems with the menus in gnome. i also have kde installed and the menu is showing the same thing as the kde menus which makes it annoying to access system configuration and whatnot in gnome. anyone know anything about this?04:05
coolbhaviMy Indian Local community booed me out of the irc and flamed me on the mailing list inspite of being an Ubuntu Member04:05
K_Dallasajmorris_, really? I am going to try it right away04:05
dutchie86K_dalla http://www.codeweavers.com/04:05
Jack_SparrowK_Dallas: you could try it under wine and see if the tool works there..  I have CO here and I could check it , but not until Monday04:05
dutchie86*K_Dallas04:05
mattycozedutchie86 yeah it goes on forever :p i just pasted the closer stuff... it said something about /dev/sdb104:05
dutchie86lol, is there any errors in there about mounting mattycoze?04:05
K_DallasJack_Sparrow, thanks i will try Xover later tonight when i work on my laptop04:05
Jack_Sparrowcoolbhavi: Things like that usually have two sides04:06
card13please I don't want to have to buy another hdd04:06
K_Dallasthanks dutchie86 i am searching their site04:06
dutchie86card13 what is your problem?04:06
Jack_SparrowK_Dallas: If you have a copy... and it works please let us know04:06
dutchie86K_Dallas no worries04:06
coolbhaviI have the proof also04:06
mattycozedutchie86 no errors... there's nothing wrong with the HD, i just need a walkthrough the mountin process04:06
mattycoze*mounting04:06
K_DallasJack_Sparrow, certainly, would be my pleasure04:06
mattycoze... as commical as that sounds04:07
Jack_Sparrowcard13: first off.  Ubuntu didnt do anything..  But not to argue.. lets get it fixed04:07
dwilson805hello!  I attempted to upgrade a fedora 7 box to fedora 8 today.  After wasting 6 or 7 hours on trying to get it running again properly (grub wouldnt boot automatically, among other problems, I had to type in the configfile every time it booted), I decided to try ubuntu 7.10.  It has been a little bit of a learning curve, but it installed cleanly, came right up, and is just a world of difference from my fedora experience.  Thank you v04:07
Shadow147dutchie86 Gutsy and I am using the Gnome GUI04:07
tuxthepenguin533what file system is the fastest04:07
card13in the install of Ubuntu server it had a problem creating a swap aprtion then mounting, now my hdd can't hold any kind of a partition04:07
Jack_Sparrowdwilson805: welcome to Ubuntu04:07
dutchie86mattycoze i know there is nothing wrong with your hard disk it could be that if you removed it before it cant mount to the mount point where it wants to and has a hissy fit04:07
Jack_Sparrowcard13: do you have livecd.?04:07
robdigdwilson805: glad to have you on ubuntu...hope you like it04:07
Jack_Sparrowcard13: You can also use gparted Livecd04:08
mattycozedutchie86 kk,04:08
coolbhaviI am fed up of our communities' excessive flaming04:08
sleepwal1hey you guys...does anyone know if the ati 9800 will work in xubuntu 7.10 with my current samsung 22' LCD which is fuzzy.  Can anyone help?04:08
card13I do, I'm trying some tools off of Heirens Bootcd04:08
dutchie86mattycoze create a folder in /media called test123 then in terminal type mount /dev/sdb1 /media/test12304:08
K_Dallastuxthepenguin533, if i remember correctly it all depends on your usage and the files you manipulate normally, big or small, lots of small or not much, etc04:08
tuxthepenguin533!reiser04:08
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, which outperforms many others on I/O operations, but has drawbacks (such as increasing likelihood of data loss, and introducing latency unsuitable for gaming or real-time audio). Using !ext3, the default on Ubuntu, is *highly* recommended. A read-only Windows driver is available at http://p-nand-q.com/download/rfstool.html04:08
Jack_Sparrowcoolbhavi: your conversation is offtopic.. we are here to help with ubuntu related problems, not some other irc channel04:08
dutchie86sleepwal1 you installed the restricted drivers?04:08
sleepwal1I jhavent purchased the card04:09
sleepwal1I have an old nvidia card04:09
coolbhaviok04:09
dutchie86Shadow147 so when you tick the desktop effects and you restart what happens?04:09
Jack_Sparrowcard13: Hirens is good, but I thought their gparted was dated.04:09
sleepwal1and the drivers are fine. Yes I have restircted drivers04:09
card13I'm using extended fdisk04:09
Jack_Sparrowcard13: May I assume you have a second pc available04:10
card13I just want it to hold a partition longer than 2 secconds04:10
Shadow147dutchie86 well let me get compiz fusion04:10
card13right, I was trying to install it on a test system04:10