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| eghjaytee | Hello, can anyone point me to any how tos for running GFS on 6.06? | 00:06 |
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| kgoetz | hi all, something to think about (while i wander off for an hour) - does the idea of shipping a standard vhost template with our apache appeal to anyone else? the one i've been refining over the last few weeks should be pretty good for easy understandability/usability/ (security?), and i know i'd prefer to have had a template in sites-available then hae to work it out somehow | 01:44 |
| kgoetz | i'm thinking of fileing a wishlist for it to get included, but thought i'd ask here too | 01:44 |
| kgoetz | http://k-k.homelinux.net:81/~kgoetz/apache2-vhost-template.txt is the link, the .txt is so lighhtttpd doesnnt try and server it as binary :\ | 01:46 |
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| kshah | apt-get remove apache2 doesn't remove apache? | 02:16 |
| kshah | file are still present | 02:16 |
| kshah | apt-get remove ruby, everything kinda sorta not working... | 02:17 |
| zul | apt-get --purge | 02:21 |
| kshah | Okay | 02:23 |
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| CyberMad | i want to running ubuntu-server with ejabberd (intranet IM), fax server (hylafax), VMware-server with 1 XP Pro, Apache2 WebServer + MySQL Server.. there are 25 users, access that server not frequently | 05:16 |
| CyberMad | what actually hardware specification i need? | 05:16 |
| CyberMad | 1st.. from processor, which one should i choose: Intel or AMD ? | 05:16 |
| Burgundavia | CyberMad: either, depends on the price point | 05:21 |
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| CyberMad | Burgundavia so, Intel or AMD is ok? | 05:29 |
| CyberMad | does sempron LE-1100 1,9 GHz can make it? | 05:29 |
| Burgundavia | CyberMad: why is the xp pro stuff on the same server as your jabber server | 05:38 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 05:38 |
| Burgundavia | I would split them out | 05:38 |
| CyberMad | because i don't want spend money for more pc | 05:42 |
| Burgundavia | the paranoid admin is me says windows + server == bad | 05:56 |
| ScottK | Burgundavia: Not paranoid. Realistic. | 05:57 |
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| CyberMad | Burgundavia i use that VMWare (XP Virtual Machine), just for remote desktop | 06:48 |
| CyberMad | so user can remote that PC for running windows application | 06:48 |
| Burgundavia | CyberMad: that is crazy, tbh | 06:49 |
| Burgundavia | keep your users away from your server | 06:50 |
| CyberMad | Burgundavia what do you mean? | 07:03 |
| CyberMad | Burgundavia that just virtual machine | 07:03 |
| CyberMad | what they can do? | 07:03 |
| Burgundavia | CyberMad: if a user has a login on a computer, they can compromise it | 07:26 |
| Burgundavia | for that matter, Windows has known bugs | 07:26 |
| Burgundavia | and if somebody can get root on one of your servers... | 07:26 |
| tjaalton | hrm, are there any known issues running dapper on a HP DL380G5? It crashes here frequently | 07:32 |
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| tjaalton | call trace starts from bnx2_poll, which would suggest a bug in the broadcom driver | 07:38 |
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| doktoreas | hello everybody | 14:18 |
| doktoreas | anyone is using JeOS? I am moved my first steps into virtualization | 14:18 |
| doktoreas | basically jeOS is a sort of customized livecd? | 14:19 |
| soren | No. | 14:22 |
| soren | Customised install cd. | 14:22 |
| clifter1 | doktoreas: It's literally as the name implies... Just Enough OS | 14:24 |
| doktoreas | but i can add all package i need and then zip it and send to people? | 14:25 |
| doktoreas | to use with WMVare? | 14:25 |
| soren | doktoreas: Sure. | 14:29 |
| doktoreas | thx soren.. | 14:29 |
| doktoreas | i'll give it a try | 14:29 |
| doktoreas | cause we need to set up a virtual machine every times..the idea is to built one with all package we need and then use that one | 14:30 |
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| jens | ubuntu server 6.06 will get 5 year's of security updates, right? | 15:50 |
| jens | so, now, what happens if i install xubuntu-desktop on my server ? | 15:50 |
| jens | will I get 5 year's of security updates ? | 15:50 |
| jens | I guessed not; since xubuntu will only get 3years of updates? | 15:50 |
| jens | and they use the same repositories | 15:51 |
| nealmcb | jens: desktop packages won't get 5-years of support - I think it is stuff in the server seed | 15:51 |
| nealmcb | ...that does | 15:51 |
| jens | ok | 15:51 |
| nealmcb | or something close to that | 15:51 |
| jens | so, if you install something on your server that is in a *-desktop package you won't get security updates for it? | 15:52 |
| nealmcb | right | 15:52 |
| jens | for the last 2 years | 15:52 |
| jens | that includes cupsys? | 15:53 |
| nealmcb | at least not updates as guaranteed by canonical. I assume that like with universe, community members will be able to put security updates out there for the last 2 years until the repository is put into archive mode | 15:54 |
| nealmcb | I think cupsys is part of the server seed, just not the gui admin tools, but you'd need to check | 15:54 |
| jens | ok, thank you verry much | 15:55 |
| nealmcb | :-) | 15:55 |
| * nealmcb is VERY GLAD to be back on his nice laptop with his files and apps working again..... | 15:59 | |
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| rodneykk | where do i configure how many logs to keep through syslog in /var/log and how big the files should be before it starts a new one, and also how do i make it stop gzip'ing the rotated logs? is this all done through logrotate.d? | 16:42 |
| mralphabet | the gzip part is all through logrotate | 16:44 |
| mralphabet | the rest of it may be as well | 16:44 |
| rodneykk | ok cool | 16:47 |
| rodneykk | is there a way to log all syslog stuff in a mysql db? | 16:47 |
| mralphabet | rodneykk: ask your question again, those two may know | 16:52 |
| ks | strange... while installing jeos on vmware i specified disk as IDE, but installation wizard sees it as scsi | 17:01 |
| ks | is this tutorial outdated ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOS | 17:01 |
| ks | also I see busybox initially instead of ubuntu | 17:02 |
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| Goosemoose | hi guys | 18:35 |
| Goosemoose | anyone using a network install and a preseed file with apt-cacher?. | 18:35 |
| Goosemoose | i keep getting told the specified mirror is not available or does not have a valid release file on it | 18:36 |
| soren | Does it? | 18:36 |
| Goosemoose | i just installed it | 18:37 |
| Goosemoose | i can browse to it via http://10.0.2.131:3142 and get an apt-cache screen | 18:37 |
| soren | Installed what? | 18:37 |
| soren | Oh. | 18:37 |
| Goosemoose | apt-cache | 18:37 |
| soren | And can you see a Release file somewhere? | 18:37 |
| soren | http://10.0.2.131:3142/se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/Release (if memory serves) | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | not exactly sure where i should find it. | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | ok let me look | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | ok that listed tons of stuff | 18:38 |
| Goosemoose | maybe my problem is that I set it to use fiesty in the preseed | 18:38 |
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| Goosemoose | what would the difference be? the ubuntu docs im following used fiesty | 18:39 |
| soren | Should be the same (for your use) | 18:39 |
| soren | What did you put in the preseed (w.r.t. the mirror to use) | 18:40 |
| Goosemoose | d-i mirror/protocol string http | 18:40 |
| Goosemoose | d-i mirror/http/hostname string 10.0.2.131:3142 | 18:40 |
| Goosemoose | d-i mirror/http/directory string /ubuntu | 18:40 |
| Goosemoose | d-i mirror/suite string fiesty | 18:41 |
| soren | d-i mirror/http/directory string /se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 18:41 |
| soren | Try that instead of what you had. | 18:41 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 18:41 |
| Goosemoose | change the fiesty line to gusty? | 18:42 |
| soren | What do you want to install? | 18:42 |
| Goosemoose | this is all my testing leading up to deploying edubuntu on tons of machines | 18:42 |
| soren | gutsy or feisty? | 18:42 |
| Goosemoose | not exactly sure. to be honest ive been a network admin for 10 years running tons of windows servers, and linux experience has all been with CentOS server, never linux clients | 18:42 |
| Goosemoose | whats the diff? | 18:42 |
| soren | gutsy is new. feisty is old. | 18:42 |
| Goosemoose | gusty it is then | 18:43 |
| soren | Then you should put that. :) | 18:43 |
| Goosemoose | makes sense then since im following a doc made for ubuntu 6.1! | 18:43 |
| soren | There's no such thing. There's 6.06 and 6.10. | 18:43 |
| soren | Which were released in June 2006 and October 2006. See the pattern? :) | 18:44 |
| Goosemoose | 6.10 | 18:44 |
| soren | I can't think of any of the basics that have changed in the preseed files. | 18:45 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 18:46 |
| Goosemoose | soren, looks like that was it thanks | 18:55 |
| Goosemoose | so my next question then :) | 18:55 |
| Goosemoose | I had setup a machine that authenticated all the users against my AD Domain | 18:56 |
| Goosemoose | required changing quite a few files | 18:56 |
| Goosemoose | i also install quite a few programs off the edubuntu cd 2 | 18:56 |
| Goosemoose | how do I work that into this auto install? | 18:56 |
| Goosemoose | add lines to the end of the preseed file? | 18:56 |
| soren | There's late-command, that might do what you want. | 18:57 |
| soren | ...and there's a setting to add packages, too. | 18:57 |
| Goosemoose | know where there's some more info on that | 18:59 |
| Goosemoose | all i see is this in the example | 18:59 |
| Goosemoose | #d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server build-essential | 18:59 |
| Goosemoose | oh , actually maybe its this: | 19:00 |
| Goosemoose | #d-i preseed/late_command string apt-install zsh; in-target chsh -s /bin/zsh | 19:00 |
| Goosemoose | so i just use apt-install for everything | 19:00 |
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| rodpod | to do the AD stuff apt-get install samba krb5 winbind | 19:31 |
| Goosemoose | rodpod, i had to edit a lot of conf files though | 19:53 |
| Goosemoose | ok, towards the end of the install i got Cannot Access Security Updates | 19:54 |
| Goosemoose | The security updates on securityu.ubuntu.com couldn't be accessed so those update will not be made available | 19:54 |
| Goosemoose | then it says it Commented out entries for security.ubuntu.com have been added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file | 19:54 |
| Goosemoose | any ideas? | 20:03 |
| mralphabet | Goosemoose: are you trying to do preseeds? | 20:05 |
| Goosemoose | yes | 20:06 |
| Goosemoose | already have it going through most of the install | 20:06 |
| Goosemoose | but its stopped on the security updates | 20:06 |
| mralphabet | I know the answer to that . . . I think | 20:07 |
| mralphabet | sec | 20:07 |
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| Goosemoose | ok, thanks | 20:08 |
| mralphabet | Goosemoose: from yesterday actually: | 20:09 |
| mralphabet | #ubuntu-server_0712.log:12:13 < proprietarysucks> so in your normal, redhat-style kickstart for ubuntu you can simply add 'preseed apt-setup/security_host string' anywhere | 20:09 |
| mralphabet | #ubuntu-server_0712.log:12:14 < proprietarysucks> that will simply disable the security updates | 20:09 |
| Goosemoose | ok, but what if i dont want to disable them? | 20:09 |
| mralphabet | that's just for the install, reenable them after | 20:10 |
| Goosemoose | i just want them to install properly, not sure why it's saying it can't access them | 20:10 |
| Goosemoose | oh | 20:10 |
| Goosemoose | this is going out for 250 school computers | 20:10 |
| Goosemoose | so i want as much automated as possible | 20:10 |
| Goosemoose | that will at least get rid of that error screen | 20:10 |
| Goosemoose | can i set security updates to install automatically later? | 20:11 |
| mralphabet | what that guy did is mirror the entire security.ubuntu.com to something local . . . as that guy is the one working on something similar _right now_, I would suggest tracking him down | 20:12 |
| mralphabet | I just remembered him talking about it, I am not familiar with it personally ;( | 20:13 |
| Goosemoose | ok, no problem | 20:13 |
| Goosemoose | that will at least get me past this for now, i appreciate it | 20:13 |
| ivoks | you want to install the system without updating during install? | 20:13 |
| Goosemoose | i want it to update during install | 20:13 |
| Goosemoose | but im getting an error | 20:13 |
| Goosemoose | The security updates on securityu.ubuntu.com couldn't be accessed so those update will not be made available | 20:13 |
| Goosemoose | then it says it Commented out entries for security.ubuntu.com have been added to the /etc/apt/sources.list file | 20:14 |
| Goosemoose | im wondering if maybe it's a proxy issue | 20:14 |
| ivoks | well, if they are unavailable...? | 20:14 |
| rodpod | does anyone know if i need to modprobe ip_gre if im going to be allowing vpn traffic through iptables, or will it automatically load | 20:14 |
| Goosemoose | although the rest of the package installed | 20:14 |
| Goosemoose | yes, but why are they unavailable | 20:14 |
| ivoks | rodpod: you need to enable it | 20:14 |
| ivoks | rodpod: just add to /etc/modules | 20:14 |
| Goosemoose | any ideas ivoks? | 20:15 |
| ivoks | could be proxy or something... | 20:17 |
| Goosemoose | though the rest of the packages pulled fine | 20:17 |
| ivoks | interesting... | 20:20 |
| ivoks | maybe proxy filters urls with security in it :) | 20:20 |
| ivoks | try security_host XX.archive.ubuntu.com | 20:23 |
| ivoks | preseed apt-setup/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com | 20:23 |
| ivoks | this should work | 20:23 |
| Goosemoose | add it anywhere in the preseed file? | 20:28 |
| Goosemoose | hr=croatia? | 20:29 |
| ivoks | right, croatia | 20:29 |
| Goosemoose | that where you are? | 20:29 |
| ivoks | you can do it on the command line | 20:29 |
| ivoks | yeah, i'm administrating that archive | 20:30 |
| Goosemoose | cool, i have a home on hvar :) | 20:30 |
| ivoks | nice | 20:30 |
| Goosemoose | my family is all from there, im in the US | 20:30 |
| Goosemoose | doesnt work on command line, doesn't know the preseed command | 20:31 |
| Goosemoose | shouldn't I add it into my preseed file? | 20:31 |
| ivoks | you can, of course | 20:31 |
| ivoks | d-i apt-setup/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com | 20:32 |
| Goosemoose | ok so 'd-i mirror/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com | 20:32 |
| Goosemoose | like that? | 20:32 |
| ivoks | yes | 20:33 |
| ivoks | no | 20:33 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 20:33 |
| ivoks | d-i apt-setup/security_host hr.archive.ubuntu.com | 20:33 |
| Goosemoose | d-i apt-setup/security_host string | 20:33 |
| Goosemoose | yeah ok | 20:33 |
| Goosemoose | is there a us.archive.ubuntu.com would prob be closer | 20:33 |
| ivoks | there is | 20:34 |
| ivoks | i'm sure they have security archive | 20:34 |
| Goosemoose | ok ill rebot this and try it again | 20:34 |
| Goosemoose | be back in a few, grabbing lunch. thanks for the assistance | 20:35 |
| ivoks | np | 20:35 |
| kraut | does ubuntu boot on via eden without any problems? | 21:01 |
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| Goosemoose | ok this is funny | 21:22 |
| Goosemoose | where in hell did the computer i just installed over the network using a pressed file get it's computer name from? | 21:22 |
| Goosemoose | it copied it from another computer on the domain! | 21:22 |
| ivoks | from dns | 21:23 |
| ivoks | eh dhcp :) | 21:23 |
| Goosemoose | how can i control that? | 21:23 |
| ivoks | preseed it | 21:23 |
| Goosemoose | could i have it actually ask? not answer that question in the process? | 21:24 |
| Goosemoose | just comment that out? | 21:24 |
| sommer | I just name all my machines "ubuntu"... heh :) | 21:24 |
| ivoks | right | 21:24 |
| Goosemoose | sommer, haha | 21:24 |
| Goosemoose | sommer, doesn't that cause a problem with dns? | 21:24 |
| bettong | if it copied it from another computer, your dns/dhcp is wrong | 21:24 |
| Goosemoose | it's a computer that doesn't exist anymore | 21:25 |
| sommer | Goosemoose: I kid, I kid | 21:25 |
| Goosemoose | but im sure the entry still hasn't timed out | 21:25 |
| Goosemoose | sommer, ahh ok, phew | 21:25 |
| Goosemoose | can i give it a new random name like Classroom-### | 21:25 |
| ivoks | your dns has an entry for that ip | 21:25 |
| Goosemoose | ivoks, im sure it does | 21:25 |
| Goosemoose | wwouldn't clear itself for a few days | 21:25 |
| Goosemoose | lease is set to a week | 21:25 |
| Goosemoose | i also didn't get a gui | 21:26 |
| Goosemoose | not sure where i screwed up there | 21:26 |
| Goosemoose | must be with the default file | 21:26 |
| ivoks | you didn't choose to install ubuntu-desktop by default? | 21:26 |
| Goosemoose | looking up what i did now | 21:26 |
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| Goosemoose | tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, desktop | 21:29 |
| Goosemoose | that's it right? | 21:29 |
| ivoks | isn't it ubuntu-desktop? | 21:30 |
| ivoks | and ubuntu-standard? | 21:30 |
| Goosemoose | might be, like i said these docs are from 6.10 | 21:30 |
| Goosemoose | ok so i need ubunt-desktop then | 21:30 |
| ivoks | tasksel --list-tasks | 21:30 |
| Goosemoose | which deafaults to gnome ? | 21:30 |
| ivoks | ubuntu-desktop | 21:30 |
| ivoks | there's no task ubuntu-standard | 21:31 |
| ivoks | those are packages | 21:31 |
| Goosemoose | got it | 21:31 |
| Goosemoose | i want edubuntu-desktop then | 21:31 |
| Goosemoose | hmm, i see edubuntu-live there | 21:31 |
| Goosemoose | that going to do something different? | 21:31 |
| Goosemoose | ok made it tasksel tasksel/first multiselect edubuntu-desktop | 21:33 |
| Goosemoose | or do i still need standard in there | 21:33 |
| Goosemoose | ok made it tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard,edubuntu-desktop | 21:33 |
| ivoks | you don't read? | 21:33 |
| Goosemoose | i do | 21:34 |
| ivoks | tasksel --list-tasks | 21:34 |
| Goosemoose | i've found one damn doc! | 21:34 |
| Goosemoose | yeah im looking at that list | 21:34 |
| Goosemoose | i just not sure what the syntax is in the tasksel tasksel/first multiselect edubuntu-desktop command | 21:34 |
| ivoks | there's no standard, right? | 21:34 |
| Goosemoose | not in the list | 21:34 |
| Goosemoose | thought it might be part of the command itself | 21:34 |
| Goosemoose | like i dont know what tasksel/first means | 21:35 |
| Goosemoose | im guess task selection which would assume more than one option | 21:35 |
| Goosemoose | and sets the first to somethign | 21:35 |
| ivoks | don't use tasksel | 21:35 |
| Goosemoose | What should I use instead? I feel like such an idiot here, usually I can just look this stuff up! | 21:36 |
| ivoks | preseed preseed/early_command apt-install ubuntu-desktop | 21:36 |
| sommer | is hardy 8.03 or 8.04? | 21:37 |
| ivoks | or even better | 21:37 |
| Goosemoose | put that anywhere in the preseed file (not sure if order matters)? | 21:37 |
| ivoks | preseed preseed/late_command apt-install ubuntu-desktop | 21:37 |
| ivoks | preseed preseed/late_command string apt-install ubuntu-desktop | 21:37 |
| ivoks | that last one is correct | 21:37 |
| Goosemoose | lol | 21:37 |
| Goosemoose | ok | 21:37 |
| Goosemoose | got it | 21:37 |
| ivoks | sommer: 4 | 21:38 |
| Goosemoose | ok, im commenting out the package selection line then | 21:38 |
| sommer | thx ivoks | 21:38 |
| ivoks | Goosemoose: with late_command you can setup custom /etc/apt/sources.list | 21:38 |
| Goosemoose | i setup a atp-cache server on the tftp server | 21:39 |
| Goosemoose | so it should be installing off of that | 21:39 |
| Goosemoose | apt-cache | 21:39 |
| ivoks | preseed preseed/late_command string apt-install ubuntu-desktop; echo "bla bla bla" > /target/etc/apt/sources.list ; echo "bla bla bla 2" >> /target/etc/apt/sources.list | 21:39 |
| Goosemoose | i see | 21:40 |
| Goosemoose | got it, it's the last line at the very end | 21:40 |
| Goosemoose | one long command for all the extra stuff | 21:40 |
| ivoks | i created iso with auto install | 21:41 |
| Goosemoose | with all the packages in it already? | 21:41 |
| ivoks | so, i could take a look tomorrow and let you know how i did it | 21:41 |
| ivoks | yeah | 21:41 |
| Goosemoose | i had setup a machine exactly how i wanted it and wanted to do that | 21:41 |
| Goosemoose | as setting it up to authenticate against AD was a pain in the arse | 21:41 |
| ivoks | that should be piece of cake in 8.04 | 21:41 |
| Goosemoose | but since there's 250 these need to install over network | 21:41 |
| Goosemoose | yeah, not out yet though | 21:41 |
| ivoks | well... | 21:42 |
| ivoks | http://www.likewisesoftware.com/community/ | 21:42 |
| ivoks | this works even now :) | 21:42 |
| ivoks | don't worry, this is new stuff, released yesterday, if i'm not mistaken... | 21:42 |
| ivoks | i saw presentation at UDS - great stuff | 21:43 |
| Goosemoose | was gonna say, i just spent a week trying it the 'old' way | 21:43 |
| Goosemoose | can it authenticate logins as well? | 21:43 |
| ivoks | everything | 21:43 |
| Goosemoose | i had to setup a pam module to query AD for usernames and passwords | 21:43 |
| Goosemoose | nice | 21:43 |
| ivoks | it integrates in PAM, yes | 21:44 |
| ivoks | so, whatever uses PAM, works | 21:44 |
| Goosemoose | is that what's going into 8.04? | 21:44 |
| ivoks | yes | 21:44 |
| Goosemoose | ok once i get this preseeding to work ill check it out | 21:44 |
| fujin_ | o0 | 21:44 |
| fujin_ | likewise looks nice | 21:44 |
| fujin_ | aptgettable? | 21:44 |
| ivoks | fujin_: there is gutsy package on web | 21:44 |
| fujin_ | I hate pissing around with libnss-pam/libldap-pam etc | 21:44 |
| fujin_ | oic | 21:45 |
| fujin_ | cool. | 21:45 |
| ivoks | it's not aptgetable, since it's 24h old :) | 21:45 |
| fujin_ | how stable? | 21:45 |
| Goosemoose | http://www.likewisesoftware.com/bits/likewise-open_4.0.0-1likewise1_i386.deb | 21:45 |
| Goosemoose | there's ubuntu version | 21:45 |
| ivoks | what i've seen at UDS, works without problems | 21:45 |
| ivoks | it has nice GUI | 21:45 |
| ivoks | and also a CLI tool | 21:45 |
| mralphabet | somebody (coffeedude?) is working on likewise to be integrated into hardy, wants it released in repos beginning of January | 21:47 |
| ivoks | right | 21:47 |
| ivoks | he did the presentation at UDS | 21:48 |
| ivoks | coffeedude rulez :) | 21:48 |
| ivoks | bye all | 21:50 |
| sommer | later ivoks | 21:53 |
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| Goosemoose | hmm i ended up with a software selection prompt | 22:13 |
| Goosemoose | missed that in the pressed file somehow | 22:13 |
| Goosemoose | asking what type of desktop, etc | 22:13 |
| Goosemoose | i dont think ivoks idea worked | 22:14 |
| Goosemoose | ok, added the tasksel back, lets see if it works | 22:15 |
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