/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/06/#kubuntu.txt

tsilalah	it breaks in the middle of installation, normally due to dependency	00:00
tsilalah	i'm probably wrong, i see there are several half-install but it actually successful	00:02
kerry	hello	00:03
kerry	where do i find the deb's files on my pc	00:03
kerry	?	00:03
tsilalah	CrocoJet: the way i see it half-install exactly means that (half install) if there is another line which says installed than it is done	00:04
nosrednaekim	kerry: /var/cache/apt/archives	00:04
kerry	nosrednaekim: ...i download from adept but what i download not there	00:07
nosrednaekim	kerry: you need to tell adept to keep all downloaded packages.	00:08
kerry	nosrednaekim: how?	00:08
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endofnite	guys is it possible to run different wallpapers from a compiz cube in kubuntu?	00:11
CrocoJet	back	00:11
CrocoJet	tsilalah, and why is half-installed ?	00:11
CrocoJet	(lol)	00:11
nosrednaekim	kerry: edit your /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove file.	00:12
Hua_Zhuang	Hello, my name is Hua Zhuang.	00:12
CrocoJet	hi Hua Zhuang	00:13
nosrednaekim	hello	00:13
julian_	bggfg	00:13
kerry	nosrednaekim: how	00:14
Hua_Zhuang	After much Feng shui deliberation, I have chosen Kubuntu as I think it will bring me closer to the monetary prominence of Western people. I find the philosophy behind Ubuntu to be compatible with my Feng shui discipline that I abscribe to.	00:14
tsilalah	if it is half-installed but no line that says installed, that means the installation breaks in the middle, could be because of dependency	00:14
CrocoJet	Hua_Zhuang, what ????	00:14
Hua_Zhuang	It is my hope that Kubuntu will be as good as Ubuntu at maximizing (American spelling) Qi (flow of energy).	00:15
CrocoJet	"bring me closer to the monetary prominence of Western people" .. you are kidding	00:15
nosrednaekim	!ops	00:15
ubotu	Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!	00:15
Hua_Zhuang	:(	00:15
LjL	nosrednaekim: what?	00:15
Hua_Zhuang	I am not a troll. :\	00:15
* endofnite bows to Huas enlightened wisdom		00:15
LjL	uuuh	00:15
PriceChild	Hua_Zhuang, noone suggested as such.	00:15
nosrednaekim	LjL.... Hua_Zhuang....	00:16
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CrocoJet	Hua_Zhuang, where are you from ?	00:16
CrocoJet	China ?	00:16
PriceChild	!offtopic \| CrocoJet	00:16
LjL	!ot	00:16
ubotu	CrocoJet: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	00:16
nosrednaekim	PriceChild: guilty concience :D	00:16
Hua_Zhuang	I am from The People's Republic.	00:16
shinkamui	this is a damn shame	00:16
shinkamui	I almost got kubuntu working perfectly with my UX280	00:16
Hua_Zhuang	I emmigrated away to seek American/Western benefits.	00:16
nosrednaekim	shinkamui: and what is that?	00:16
LjL	!ot \| 2	00:16
ubotu	2: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	00:16
Hua_Zhuang	Yes.	00:16
shinkamui	but since I can't get the dualpoint stick to stop clickdragging, Its not useable	00:17
shinkamui	:(	00:17
Hua_Zhuang	What is UX280?	00:17
Hua_Zhuang	CrocoJet: Yes.	00:19
Flare183	!language	00:20
ubotu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	00:20
CrocoJet	!language	00:20
Hua_Zhuang	I need a window manager that maximizes the Feng shui compatibility (essential Qi)	00:20
nalioth	您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk	00:21
Hua_Zhuang	Language?	00:21
Hua_Zhuang	CrocoJet: Feng shui (sorry to be offtopic) is a discipline/guidlines of how to live.	00:21
skyfalcon866	why do i get this	00:23
skyfalcon866	libqt4-dev:	00:23
skyfalcon866	Depends: libqt4-core (=4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed	00:23
skyfalcon866	Depends: libqt4-gui (=4.3.2-0ubuntu3) but 4.3.2-0ubuntu3.1 is to be installed	00:23
ScorpKing	!paste > skyfalcon866	00:23
endofnite	guys is it possible to run different wallpapers from a compiz cube in kubuntu?	00:24
NickPresta	endofnite, if you don't get an answer here, #compiz-fusion should be able to help.	00:24
Hua_Zhuang	endofnite: I want a Feng shui wallpaper.	00:24
endofnite	I have stumped them there :P	00:24
endofnite	they are answering for gnome but I prefer kde :P	00:24
endofnite	I already have a workaround for gnome	00:24
NickPresta	endofnite, you want a different wallpaper for each cube face?	00:25
endofnite	correct	00:25
NickPresta	Are we talking about the Cube Cap or each virtual "desktop" have it's own background? I am pretty sure the former is possible in CF. It was in Beryl	00:25
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endofnite	well I know in kde each virtual desktop can have its own background	00:27
endofnite	but I can't get the cube to have different backgrounds	00:27
NickPresta	endofnite, what about adding Background Images to the "Background Images" section in the Desktop Cube setting area?	00:27
eVipere	Does anyone know how to remove a device from an mdadm array, when the device is not physically present?	00:27
endofnite	where is that area nick	00:28
NickPresta	endofnite, in the main settings area (listing all the various plugins) click on Desktop Cube. Then click on Appearance	00:29
eVipere	:( No one has mdadm experience then	00:30
pteague	how much experience?	00:30
eVipere	Enough to tell me how to remove a device from the md array	00:31
endofnite	nick: I don't have that option in my version which is gutsy native	00:31
eVipere	even if the device is not physically attached to the PC anymore.	00:31
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endofnite	your filter "appearance does not match any items	00:32
compbrain	endofnite: mdadm remove or the like?	00:32
wii	stdin: :O	00:32
wii	Tm_T: :O	00:32
compbrain	er, eVipere same answer	00:32
NickPresta	endofnite, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/compizcube	00:33
wii	T_T	00:33
eVipere	remove would be my guess too, but /dev/sda1 doesn't exist, as the drive spazzes the whole sytem when attached.	00:33
LjL	wii: :D :D :D :D	00:33
compbrain	eVipere: mdadm --set-faulty perhaps	00:33
eVipere	So mdadm --remove /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 doesn't work.	00:33
eVipere	--set-faulty doesn't work, it keeps complaining about cannot find device.	00:34
endofnite	yup nick you have different version	00:34
endofnite	of ccsm	00:34
endofnite	what version is that perchance	00:34
endofnite	mine is ccsm-0.5.2.	00:35
NickPresta	endofnite, $ compiz --version: compiz 0.6.3	00:35
endofnite	damn you are happening	00:35
endofnite	lolz	00:35
compbrain	eVipere: What does mdadm think about itself, (ie, mdadm --examine)	00:35
endofnite	tried compiling that yesterday with errors	00:35
endofnite	maybe you can help me with those lolz :P	00:36
compbrain	rather, --detail	00:36
eVipere	Just No Superblock found for --examine.	00:36
Hua_Zhuang	#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null#@$#$#@$#@@: Null	00:36
eVipere	Oh, for detail, it gives a listing of 1 clean, degraded. 1 device present, 1 removed.	00:36
Hua_Zhuang	Stupid onscreen keyboard.	00:36
pteague	so when is kubuntu gutsy going to be ready?	00:37
endofnite	it is ready	00:37
endofnite	im running it	00:37
endofnite	lolz	00:37
NickPresta	endofnite, i got that version of compiz from the repos. I only have Opera, backports, *verse and Canonical repos. It should be in there	00:37
endofnite	really	00:37
sp3c	I installed Kubuntu 7.10 on my laptop. Everything was alright, until I installed the nvidia driver from nvidia. I didn't like it.. so tried to unistall it... that didn't go well, driver didn't clean itself up well. So eventually I got rid of it... but I think I ended up doing a fresh kernel module install (not exactly sure what I did). Anyways, I lost some of my kernel modules.. vmware, soundcard, wireless card.. I got vmware back..	00:37
sp3c	pt I could run to get back all the other drivers ? i.e. like right after I did my install ?	00:37
NickPresta	pteague, kubuntu gutsy is ready	00:37
Hua_Zhuang	# ?????????????????????	00:37
Hua_Zhuang	# ?????????????????????	00:37
Hua_Zhuang	# ???????????????????	00:37
Hua_Zhuang	# ???????????????????	00:37
endofnite	can you give me a screenie of your repos	00:37
endofnite	nick please	00:38
Hua_Zhuang	hmm	00:38
Hua_Zhuang	Not working.	00:38
compbrain	eVipere: Out of curiosity, why are you wanting to remove the device, I assume eventually you will add it back?	00:38
endofnite	I wonder if it's the verse	00:38
endofnite	don't think I have the verse	00:38
eVipere	compbrain: When I get another drive, yeah, but I would like to get this system functional on just the 1 for the time being.	00:38
pteague	NickPresta> k, was just going through the gutsyupgrades page on help.ubuntu.com & it says "when kubuntu 7.10 is officially released..."	00:39
NickPresta	endofnite, i can upload my sources.list for you. hold one moment	00:39
endofnite	awesome danke sehr :)	00:39
NickPresta	endofnite, http://nickpresta.ath.cx/temp/sources.list.txt	00:42
endofnite	thanks so much sir	00:43
shadowhywind	Hay all when i tried to do an upgrade yesterday apt said it couldn't. and now when ever itry to do apt or apt-get update i get Encountered a section with no Package: header Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_gutsy_universe_binary-amd64_Packages The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.	00:44
fungos	I just installed 7.10 and nvidia drivers. but my X gives error API mismatch.. what should I install to it work?	00:45
shadowhywind	you need to remove nv from the restricted modules, let me see if i can find my directions	00:46
nosrednaekim	shadowhywind: run a apt-get update	00:47
fungos	I used that new restricted modules manager to install the nvidia driver	00:47
shadowhywind	fungos edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules you should see a DISABLED_MODULES="" change it DISABLED_MODULES="nv"	00:47
shadowhywind	nosrednaekim i get that error when i run apt-get update	00:47
nosrednaekim	shadowhywind: bad mirror?	00:48
shadowhywind	no clue, in the middle of the update it said that it had to stop or it would do bad things	00:48
ardchoille	Why would nv be in restricted modules? Isn't it installed with the system?	00:49
shadowhywind	There are two version of the nvidia drives the ones that comes preinstalled and one that you can download from the repo's/nvidia website.	00:49
fungos	and I need to uninstall and install again nvidia?	00:50
shadowhywind	the one that comes preinstalled doesn't do opengl to my knowledge	00:50
ardchoille	shadowhywind: Oh, ok, I thought that was the diff between "nv" and "nvidia". My bad.	00:50
shadowhywind	have you installed the repo version or the website?	00:50
ardchoille	shadowhywind: Right, you need nvidia for OpenGL	00:50
nosrednaekim	ardchoille: I think it is..	00:50
shadowhywind	there is a difference between nv and nvidia, nv i believe is the preinstalled version	00:50
ardchoille	shadowhywind: I simply did: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nlvidia-glx-config enable	00:51
ardchoille	And they were ready to go	00:51
fungos	shadowhywind: I dont know which I installed. It was using restricted-manager-kde	00:51
nosrednaekim	fungos: did you try any other methods for installing the nvidia drivers previously?	00:51
fungos	no, It worked with 7.04.. but 7.10 just hangs	00:51
ardchoille	fungos: restricted-manager installs nvidia, the nv driver ships with kubuntu	00:52
nosrednaekim	fungos: what worked with 7.04, and what hangs in 7.10	00:52
ardchoille	I bet it's that restricted-manager	00:52
shadowhywind	also my problem is apparently my apt's cache is too small to handle all of the packages	00:52
nosrednaekim	ardchoille: I have NEVER heard of a problem with restricted-manager.	00:53
ardchoille	nosrednaekim: I've seen many bugs caused by it	00:53
nosrednaekim	ussually its got to do with automatix or such	00:53
nosrednaekim	ardchoille: really?hmm	00:54
ardchoille	fungos: You didn't use automatix did you?	00:54
nosrednaekim	not going to say you are wrong..	00:54
awag	anyone know any good channels for help with java programming?	00:54
fungos	API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel modules has the version 1.0-9631, but this X modules has the version 1.0-9639. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.	00:55
ardchoille	nosrednaekim: Reading the bugs is what prompted me to use the cli install method instead of the restricted-manager. Worked great in cli, but the restricted-manager caused problems on 8 of my boxes	00:55
fungos	ardchoille: nope	00:55
nosrednaekim	fungos: open up adept and search for "nvidia" and tell us which ones are installed	00:56
fungos	nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common only	00:57
Tailsfan	Hello, Does Kubuntu come with the packages needed to install opera	00:57
nosrednaekim	Tailsfan: yes, it should	00:58
Tailsfan	OK	00:58
nosrednaekim	Tailsfan: at least they are in the repositories	00:59
nosrednaekim	fungos: ok	00:59
Tailsfan	Yeah, but I can't use Konqueror to access my net	00:59
Tailsfan	Earthlink has a prob with Konqueror	00:59
fungos	another box with nvidia here, has only nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-kernel-common ... I will try that	00:59
nosrednaekim	fungos: worth a shot I guess.	01:00
sp3c	Fungos, I had that same issue.. after installing nvidia's driver.. then trying to remove, and go back to the driver provided by kubuntu	01:01
sp3c	I eventually fixed it... but I think I ended up replacing my Kernel modules.. cause drivers for my wireless card and sound card are now missing	01:01
sp3c	which is why I am here, is there some script I can run, to autodetect what drivers I need, and get the installed... i.e. like the installer did ?	01:02
fungos	Ok, im trying nvidia-glx-new now.. then I try to uninstall it .. I really think that there is missing something with the kernel.. or kernel-headers or kernel-sources .. dont know	01:02
nosrednaekim	fungos: I'm not an nvidia user... sorry..	01:03
nosrednaekim	sp3c: should automatically happen.	01:03
ardchoille	fungos: Try this to see if the modules are installed: apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` \| grep -i installed	01:04
sp3c	nosrednaekim... Yeah.. I did something bad... alsa shows no sound devices	01:04
nosrednaekim	sp3c: install an older kernel	01:04
fungos	just show: 2.6.20.5-15.20	01:05
sp3c	I believe the kernel I am at, was working fine.. before my little nvidia adventure... 2.6.22-14	01:05
fungos	the other box mine has kernel 2.6.22.14-generic	01:05
ardchoille	fungos: Ok, that's what I was wondering	01:05
fungos	should I update the kernel?	01:06
nosrednaekim	fungos: yeah... install the -14 kernel	01:06
sp3c	if I try to reinstall my kernel.. would that help ?	01:06
Tailsfan	Is there anyway to get opera for Kubuntu while on Windows	01:06
nosrednaekim	Tailsfan: download the static binary from the OPera site	01:07
endofnite	NickPresta: you still there?	01:07
endofnite	are you running 386?	01:08
NickPresta	endofnite, yes, to both	01:08
endofnite	hmm cos all I got upgraded with your repos is wine	01:08
endofnite	:/	01:08
NickPresta	endofnite, how did you check the version for ccsm?	01:08
endofnite	probably they don't have builds im guessing for my amd64	01:08
endofnite	did an slocate	01:09
endofnite	updatedb &	01:09
endofnite	then sudo slocate	01:09
endofnite	if you are unfamiliar with that	01:09
fungos	weird .. 2.6.22 alredy is installed.. maybe grub isnt updated	01:09
endofnite	im sure there are other ways	01:10
NickPresta	endofnite, I know how to get ccsm. I'm asking how you found the version. Clicking on "about ccsm" inside the manager doesn't reveal the version number	01:11
the-erm	I just updated firefox today, and a few other things ... something is seriously wrong with it.	01:13
NickPresta	endofnite, nevermind. I checked the python files. I have ccsm version 0.5.2.	01:14
endofnite	not according to your screenshot	01:14
endofnite	or wait	01:14
endofnite	you said you had	01:14
endofnite	endofnite, $ compiz --version: compiz 0.6.3	01:14
endofnite	hmm	01:15
endofnite	my version says the same	01:15
endofnite	and the same ccsm	01:15
NickPresta	endofnite, hmm. I don't know what to tell you. You had the Desktop Cube setting area, don't you?	01:17
endofnite	sigh I sure do	01:17
* endofnite slaps himself repeatedly with a wet penguin		01:18
NickPresta	endofnite, open that area and click on Appearance :)	01:18
endofnite	ya im looking at it	01:18
endofnite	at least you helped me update wine \0/	01:18
fungos	now it cant finde nvidia.ko !	01:18
fungos	error: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko no such file.	01:20
crimsun	install the relevant l-r-m package	01:20
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rakyr	what's the best password manager? is kwalletmanager ok? i guess the only way to know is to try to crack my own password with some software	01:31
SpookyET	hi	01:35
SpookyET	I'm trying to setup my partitions. I have a 100GB hard drive. / 200MiB /boot 100 MiB /swap 3GiB /var 2GiB /tmp 2 GiB /usr 10 GiB /home 75.87 GiB How are those numbers?	01:35
nosrednaekim	SpookyET: you really don't need all of those partitions	01:35
nosrednaekim	/home / swap and /var are ussually good enough	01:36
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jembouge	Hi there!	01:38
jembouge	good morning (2.40am at my place)	01:38
jembouge	is anybody here?	01:38
SR-latch	3:38 here :)	01:38
r0y4l	any ideas why my openoffice isn't starting? "WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ..."	01:39
jembouge	just a question I was just wondering :	01:39
jembouge	I just mounted an external hard drive	01:40
jembouge	and I changed the owner of its files to.. say "lambda"	01:40
jembouge	question is :	01:40
adamonline45	Hi. What do I have to do to access windows shares?	01:40
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jembouge	files in konqueror are still said to be owned by root	01:40
jembouge	although the "lambda" user can do anything to them	01:41
jembouge	any idea how it works? (I mean it's all fine in my case, that's what I wanted, but just wondering why it says root and not lambda)	01:41
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jembouge	admonline45: to access	01:42
SR-latch	chown maybe?	01:42
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SR-latch	not sure	01:42
jembouge	nothing if you've just installed kubuntu	01:42
jembouge	type in your file browser "smb://xxx.xx.xxx.xx"	01:43
kgx	anyone here from the UK? any ideas how what income tax rate do expats pay? couldnt find it on the hmrc website	01:43
jembouge	where xxx.xx.xxx.xx is an IP address of the computer you want to get your file from	01:43
refreshrate	anybody have a crt monitor and cant get their refresh rate to set with nvidia driver?	01:43
jembouge	SR-latch : that's what I did to have the owner changed to lambda	01:44
jembouge	now lambda can use it as if it were its own files	01:45
jembouge	however, these files are still marked to be owned by root	01:45
adamonline45	jembouge: Is that for me? I'll give that a shot; but what do I ahve to do to see it in Dolphin?	01:45
SR-latch	<jembouge> have you tried changing group access also?	01:46
jembouge	adamonline45: yes, for you :)	01:47
jembouge	adamonline45: I don't know much about dolphin, I don't like the interface	01:48
jembouge	adamonline45: but maybe you could just create a bookmark or something	01:48
jembouge	adamonline45: there's probably a way to have your remote computer shown in the left list (if my memory serves)	01:48
jembouge	adamonline45 : just by dragging something to it	01:49
SR-latch	yes there is one called network	01:49
jembouge	SR-latch: no, should I ?	01:49
SR-latch	<jembouge> i am not sure but things could be messed up if for example the user belong to adiffrent group than the one owning the file if my memory serves me well	01:50
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jembouge	SR-latch: well I've just tried, hasn't changed anything.	01:51
SR-latch	<jembouge> hmmm	01:51
jembouge	SR-latch: but that's fine.... you know what? I haven't even thought about the rwx stuff! Let's give it a look...	01:52
jembouge	yah, it says it's root, but anyone can do anything	01:53
jembouge	...	01:53
jembouge	not sure that's good :p	01:53
SR-latch	<jembouge> weird	01:53
SR-latch	<jembouge> and dangerous i would add	01:53
jembouge	indeed... by chance this is only my stuff at home, and not some work computer	01:53
Tailsfan	Hello, Is it true that Kubuntu Kills Laptpo Batteries?	01:55
nosrednaekim	Tailsfan: no	01:55
NickPresta	Tailsfan, I don't think so. I usually get better battery life when in "Laptop Mode" in Kubuntu versus XP	01:55
SR-latch	<jembouge> if you ls -al in the folder what is the result?	01:56
Tailsfan	how do I enable laptop mode? or is it enabled automatically?	01:56
jembouge	Tailsfan: mine works longer with kubuntu than it used to before... but for only 5 minutes approximately :D	01:56
jembouge	(I had winXP before)	01:56
Tailsfan	I have XP now	01:56
SR-latch	<jembouge> the last 3 specifically	01:57
Tailsfan	I'm using the Live CD right now	01:57
jembouge	SR-latch: trying it now...	01:57
NickPresta	Tailsfan, in System Settings, you should have a Power Control module, I believe. It should look like this: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/images/C/kubuntu-powercontrol-laptopbattery.png	01:58
Tailsfan	I'm actually trying to get recordmydesktop right now	01:58
adamonline45	In Dolphin, I click Samba shares and I can see mshome, but when I click on mshome it says 'loading directory, 0%' at the bottom, and it's not doing anything. Does anyone know how to fix this?	01:58
jembouge	SR-latch: all is root, and it returns the RECYCLER and System Volume Information (XP stuff, that's NTFS stuff I forgot to tell)	02:00
Radio01	My new look. file:///home/johnny/snapshot1.png	02:01
jembouge	Radio01: not sure we'll be able to see it :p	02:01
adamonline45	Radio01: Is that supposed to be a link?	02:01
Radio01	I think..	02:02
jembouge	adamonline45: talking about Radio01's address, yes, but that's a "local" address	02:02
NickPresta	Radio01, "The file or folder /home/johnny/snapshot1.png does not exist." =D You have to upload it somewhere.	02:02
SR-latch	<jembouge> maybe its something with NTFS i am not sure	02:02
Radio01	ah ok	02:02
Tailsfan	Has anyone had any luck Running WoW in Kubuntu?	02:02
jembouge	Tailsfan, never tried	02:03
SR-latch	<Tailsfan> with wine	02:03
Radio01	i thought it attatchment guess not	02:03
SR-latch	<Tailsfan> its possible	02:03
SR-latch	<Tailsfan> but has a lower framerate	02:03
jembouge	is wine good enough to do that now? Well it certainly improved since last time I heard of it then... good job developpers	02:04
SR-latch	<Tailsfan> yup its very good right now :)	02:04
* Tailsfan wishes Kubuntu comes with games		02:04
NickPresta	Tailsfan, they're only a "sudo apt-get install" away :)	02:05
SR-latch	<jembouge> yup its very good right now :)	02:05
jembouge	SR-latch: I think that's the thing too...	02:05
jembouge	* thinks Tailsfan will have to install Kubuntu to play games :p	02:05
Tailsfan	I know	02:06
SR-latch	<jembouge> id software has a linux installer for quake wars	02:06
SR-latch	<jembouge> though you still got to buy the game ;)	02:06
jembouge	SR-latch: yet I somehow feel reluctant about using it (wine). I believe we have all we need already without needing windows software	02:07
Tailsfan	Yeah, but I play WoW, not ET: QW	02:07
SR-latch	<jembouge> i know, it sucks badly that most software houses built their games in windows	02:08
SR-latch	<jembouge> they rarely port them to linux	02:08
NickPresta	Tailsfan, you could always ask Blizzard to allow us to make binary versions of WoW for mass distribution to users of the APT/DPKG system :)	02:08
Tailsfan	True	02:09
Tailsfan	WoW and BC are Win/Mac only	02:09
SR-latch	hahahhahaha	02:09
jembouge	SR-latch: yeah I saw it all (QuakeWars and others), I went through a lot of the games to test and see what is done today, and was well surprised in fact	02:09
SR-latch	sudo apt-get wow!	02:09
Tailsfan	Believe me I know, I have the Battle Chest from it	02:09
jembouge	unfortunately my damn old computer's not so good at graphics	02:09
Tailsfan	Nor is mine apparently	02:09
SR-latch	same here	02:09
Tailsfan	I had to set all graphics to low	02:10
Tailsfan	and it run around 30-50 fps	02:10
* Tailsfan also hates Earthlink		02:10
jembouge	all I play now is Frozen Bubble :D	02:10
SR-latch	hehehhehe	02:10
Tailsfan	Frozen Bubble = Bubble Bobble	02:11
SR-latch	gotta go to sleep guys	02:11
Tailsfan	I lik ethat game	02:11
jembouge	lol	02:11
SR-latch	4:11 here :)	02:11
SR-latch	gnite	02:11
Tailsfan	Night gives him a night cap	02:11
jembouge	me too, 3h11 here	02:11
jembouge	cheers	02:11
SR-latch	wanking	02:11
=== SR-latch is now known as milfhunter
jembouge	OMG!!!! milfhunter :D	02:12
Tailsfan	Earthlink's Internet at nights s**k	02:12
jembouge	what's Earthlink?	02:12
jembouge	an ISP ?	02:12
Tailsfan	Yeah	02:13
jembouge	where do you live?	02:13
Tailsfan	I also got my Kubuntu Shipit CDs today	02:13
Tailsfan	I ordered 1 PC 32-Bit and 1 PC 64-Bit	02:13
jembouge	good for the CDs, how long to come?	02:13
Tailsfan	I think about 4 weeks	02:13
jembouge	that's what's written on the website, was it true for you?	02:14
jembouge	tonight I've been trying to install kubuntu on a friend's box, but his machine couldn't read burned cds....	02:14
jembouge	just a shame, he's so disappointed	02:15
jembouge	he has noone else to install it on his box, and we don't meet often (every other month :p )	02:15
jembouge	well, leaving now	02:15
jembouge	have all good times with Kubuntu :D	02:16
jembouge	good night!	02:16
adamonline45	Can we KDErs use avant window navigator?	02:16
* genii makes a new pot of coffee for all the caffeine addicts		02:19
Kr4t05	Okay... I'm having trouble getting a Windows-shared printer to show up in the Printer Wizard.	02:21
Kr4t05	The printer is shared from a Windows XP system, which should be configured properly, (as I configured it myself).	02:21
Kr4t05	But, It doesn't show up, (the computer itself doesn't even show up).	02:21
Kr4t05	I've tried the Guest account, Anonymous, and the root account for the remote system.	02:22
BluesKaj	Kr4t05, the guest acct is usually the one that works , however go to the windows pc and check on the printer driver in printer properties and use that name for the printer	02:26
Kr4t05	BluesKaj: Yeah, I did that.	02:26
BluesKaj	in the linux printer wizard ...setup samba too	02:27
Kr4t05	BluesKaj: I've never had to "set up" samba before. The defaults usually worked fine.	02:27
Kr4t05	So, I set up the printer using the information from the Windows machine.	02:34
Kr4t05	I sent it a job, and in the System Setttings window, it says "Processing"	02:34
michael_	shalom folks	02:34
Kr4t05	Oh, now it says "Held"	02:34
rudd-o	hello gents, quick question: how do I get a device which normally does NOT SHOW up on the media:/ kioslave, to show up there so the user can mount unmount and the dialog box of device insertion appears?	02:37
BluesKaj	Kr4t05, samba will open the line to the pc and see it , then cups will see it as well when you run the printer wizard	02:37
Kr4t05	BluesKaj: Well, obviously.	02:38
Kr4t05	It's worked before, in Fiesty, Edgy and Dapper.	02:38
BluesKaj	Kr4t05, does the pc workgroup show up if you type smb:/ in the konq addressbar ?	02:39
Kr4t05	Yes.	02:39
=== genii_ is now known as genii
Kr4t05	MSHOME shows up.	02:40
Kr4t05	Should I click it?	02:40
Kr4t05	I click it: Timeout on server MSHOME	02:41
Kr4t05	As if anyone here would care, I'm honestly expecting someone to tell me to install Ubuntu on the other system. >>	02:41
Radio01	ya get a new drive..	02:42
BluesKaj	Kr4t05, and you've shared the printer on the windows pc ?...sorry if I'm stating the obvious but I'm just trying to cover all the bases	02:42
Radio01	Ok, who's taking me to dinner?	02:43
BluesKaj	and make sure the windows pc is booted up	02:43
Kr4t05	BluesKaj: Yep.	02:43
Kr4t05	Yes.	02:43
BluesKaj	but you don't see a workgroup?	02:44
BluesKaj	with the linux pc	02:44
Kr4t05	I see a workgroup, but if I click it, it errors out.	02:44
Kr4t05	And says something about timing out.	02:44
BluesKaj	my setup shows a workgroup and mshome in konq	02:45
Kr4t05	my setup show mshome, and nothing else.	02:45
Kr4t05	"MSHOME" is the workgroup.	02:45
LimCore	how to set which user can use su or sudo with OWN password to become root	02:45
BluesKaj	timing out , that's cuz it's looking but can't find the windows pc	02:46
Kr4t05	LimCore: Add the user to the sudo/sudoers group. (Not sure which.)	02:46
Kr4t05	BluesKaj: Yeah.	02:46
Kr4t05	Which doesn't make sense.	02:46
Kr4t05	Because the Windows PC is on a configured to share the printer.	02:47
BluesKaj	can the windows pc see your linuxbox?	02:47
Kr4t05	Dunno, I don't have anything shared on this machine.	02:47
BluesKaj	ok	02:48
dmcglone	hiya all	02:49
NickPresta	hi, dmcglone	02:49
dmcglone	hey Nick	02:49
BluesKaj	Kr4t05, did you setup the foomatic or whatever driver in the wizard , sometimes ppl forget that step	02:49
Kr4t05	BluesKaj: Yes, I did.	02:49
BluesKaj	pk	02:50
BluesKaj	ok	02:50
Kr4t05	It's a Lexmark z600	02:50
Kr4t05	The driver for which I installed already.	02:50
dmcglone	Lexmark. ewwww	02:50
dmcglone	I never h	02:50
dmcglone	> _______________________________________________	02:50
dmcglone	> colug432 mailing list colug432@colug.net	02:50
dmcglone	> http://www.colug.net/mailman/listinfo/colug432	02:50
dmcglone	oops	02:50
Kr4t05	Nice.	02:50
dmcglone	I never had luck with lexmark printers	02:50
BluesKaj	hmm lexmarks are notoriously undersupported on linux	02:50
Kr4t05	Well, there are drivers, they were RPMs, which had to be converted to debs in the goofiest way possible.	02:51
Kr4t05	But, it worked in Fiesty.	02:51
adamonline45	Does anyone here have Avant working under KDE? I just want to know if it's possible/not too painstaking...	02:51
Kr4t05	Perhaps this is just another one of those notorious "upgrade hazards?"	02:51
dmcglone	I'm suprised you got a lexmark to work	02:51
Kr4t05	adamonline45: If you don't mind messing with a metric butt-ton of GTK libs, yes, it does work.	02:52
BluesKaj	so did you run alien in gutsy to "make" the driver	02:52
Kr4t05	BluesKaj: No, It's a longer process.	02:52
Kr4t05	Oh, wait. No...	02:52
Kr4t05	It's a tar.gz that has RPMs inside, that are converted with alien.	02:52
BluesKaj	wow	02:53
Kr4t05	So, let me convert them in Gutsy.	02:53
Kr4t05	Because, the DEBs I have now are ones I converted in Fiesty.	02:53
Kr4t05	But, then again...	02:53
Kr4t05	I don't see why that would be the problem.	02:53
adamonline45	Kr4t05: Ooh, yeah... That's what I figured... Are there any KDE-based apps like that that you know of?	02:54
Kr4t05	Kiba-dock	02:54
Kr4t05	It works about the same as Avant.	02:54
Kr4t05	Some plusses, some minuses.	02:54
Kr4t05	I used Kiba for the longest time, I only recently switched to Avant	02:55
dmcglone	!kiba-dock	02:55
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kiba-dock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:55
dmcglone	!avant	02:55
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about avant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:55
BluesKaj	Kr4t05, it's odd but i had some hardware probs with x86 32bit gutsy , but when I decided on 64bit , the hardware probs , disappeared ....so far anyway :)	02:55
crackhead_25	question: i can't get my hp 3550 printer to work with kubuntu. anyone help?	02:55
crackhead_25	it's plugged in. test page produces a blank page.	02:55
dmcglone	have you installed the hpijs print drivers crackhead?	02:56
crackhead_25	dmcglone: yeah hpijs is installed	02:56
crackhead_25	it once printed a while back. then it stopped working somewhat unexpectedly one day. i dont knwo why	02:56
dmcglone	Ah well do you get any errors or anything?	02:57
crackhead_25	nope	02:57
dmcglone	judging by your name i'll ask, is the printer on? LOL	02:57
BluesKaj	crackhead_25, run the print wizard again ...the HP's are the most supported printers on kubuntu	02:57
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: where do i find the print wizard?	02:58
crackhead_25	is there a commandline?	02:58
dmcglone	need to make sure your not halucinating	02:58
dmcglone	LOL	02:58
BluesKaj	in system settings/printers/addprinter/class	02:59
navetz	how do i download opera	03:02
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: im running the wizard. let you know results ina min	03:02
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: the wizard setup appears to be working. im having success with a test print page.	03:02
niklauz	what does a person who broke his dpkg do?	03:02
crackhead_25	let's see. hopefully it ifnishes fine.	03:03
BluesKaj	crackhead_25, good	03:03
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: if this works, you rock! you too dmc! :)	03:03
niklauz	!util-linux	03:04
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about util-linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:04
niklauz	!linux32	03:05
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about linux32 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:05
BluesKaj	!x86	03:06
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about x86 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:06
crackhead_25	awesome.. i think it worked.. ok,	03:06
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: i have a second problem now.. maybe you will know how to fix..	03:06
crackhead_25	i have an external lacie hd, which will not mount.. it was mounting a while back, then suddenly stopped working one day too!	03:06
crackhead_25	i know it has content and data on it, but it only shows up as an empty folder in the file explorer	03:06
BluesKaj	crackhead_25, ntfs file system ?	03:07
crackhead_25	yes, i think it is ntfs files system	03:08
kbrown	hey	03:08
crackhead_25	i put ntfs-3g on, so that i could read/write to it	03:08
crackhead_25	and it was working for a while.. then one day it just stopped..d otn know why..	03:08
kbrown	oh mine	03:08
kbrown	this place is Damn good	03:08
BluesKaj	crackhead_25, i would also try ntfs-config	03:08
crackhead_25	run that in a command line? and then what?	03:09
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: can you open a private chat room or something with me ehre? it's easier to follow? can that happen with konversation here?	03:09
BluesKaj	ntfs-config will give you read write permissions on the ntfs drive	03:10
BluesKaj	but it resides in the kmenu , it's aGUI	03:10
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: im not seeing it in the kmen	03:11
BluesKaj	however, i' havent had any reason to use it on my setup , it may be redundant	03:12
BluesKaj	you have to install it with adept or apt	03:12
scooter_	how do i navigate to a directory in konsole	03:14
Dragnslcr	cd	03:14
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: installed ntfs-config.. enabled write for both internal and external.. i dont think that has any effect on things..	03:14
scooter_	yea but like	03:14
crackhead_25	i had write capability before..	03:14
scooter_	i dont know how to go pasat cd /home	03:14
crackhead_25	i just can't see the external hd data now..	03:14
Dragnslcr	cd /home/yourname/somedir	03:15
jmichaelx	is there any wireless adaptor that consistantly works well in *ubuntu? if there is, i sure have not found it yet.	03:15
bazhang	jmichaelx: intel	03:16
BluesKaj	crackhead_25, yeah, it's a GUI for ntfs-3g	03:16
scooter_	another problem	03:16
jmichaelx	bazhang: but you can't just go out and buy an intel adaptor, can you?	03:17
scooter_	im trying to download that flashplayer thiing	03:17
scooter_	and it keeps saying "package not found"	03:17
bazhang	jmichaelx: gutsy?	03:17
scooter_	but im in the directory	03:17
crackhead_25	BluesKaj: i installed and used it. it hasnt had any effect. it's only got two controls, it seems. two radio boxes to enable or disenable write support for internal and external drives..	03:17
jmichaelx	bazhang: huh?	03:17
bazhang	jmichaelx: gutsy, feisty, dapper which version of kubuntu	03:18
jmichaelx	bazhang: ahh, sorry. i am in gutsy, unfortunately	03:18
* genii sips a coffee and thinks about bitlocker		03:18
bazhang	jmichaelx: which card do you have/or adaptor	03:19
jmichaelx	bazhang: i had much better luck in feisty	03:19
BluesKaj	genii, can you add any suggestions to crackhead_25's problem with read/write to an external HDD	03:19
jmichaelx	bazhang: i had a bcm43xx.... but had a lot of problems, so i pulled it and replaced it with an rt2500 based card	03:19
genii	BluesKaj: Consider me an observer tonight :)	03:20
BluesKaj	ok :)	03:20
bazhang	jmichaelx: that would be more problems imo; the bcm are so widespread that they are well supported in gutsy now	03:20
bazhang	genii: flood averted?	03:21
crackhead_25	genii: i'd love your help.. this is a really stubborn problem	03:21
jmichaelx	bazhang: i could switch back... but with open source drivers, the speed for a bcm43xx card had been limited to 11Mbps... maybe that has changed	03:21
genii	bazhang: No, water was ankle deep. But I shutoff the main water supply and repaired the pipes etc. Huge mess	03:21
bazhang	genii: sorry to hear it--hope things are cleared up soon	03:22
jmichaelx	bazhang: rt2500 is generall well-supported in linux (at least that has been my impression)	03:22
genii	crackhead_25: OK, as I understand.. your external ntfs drive ... you can see it but not write?	03:22
crackhead_25	no, i can't see it -- just an empty folder now	03:22
genii	BluesKaj: So much for observation	03:22
bazhang	jmichaelx: atheros has the best imo cards--the ralink cards are open source but poorly designed	03:22
BluesKaj	sorry genii : (	03:23
genii	crackhead_25: What drive did it appear before eg: /dev/sdb1 or such, not /media name	03:23
bazhang	jmichaelx: is this an external usb adapter? or a pcmcia card or internal one	03:23
genii	BluesKaj: It's Ok I'm just bushed	03:23
crackhead_25	i think it was /dev/sdb1.. though i actually never saw it in /etc/config	03:24
jmichaelx	bazhang: i have thought about buying an atheros mini-pci card.. but was worried as i have a desktop with a pci atheros card.. and it, too had problems with kubuntu... i switched to slackware on that box and have had no more issues	03:24
jmichaelx	bazhang: th ert2500 is mini-pci	03:24
BluesKaj	genii, din't realize you had plumbing probs ...that makes it hard to concentrate :(	03:24
jmichaelx	the rt2500*	03:24
bazhang	jmichaelx: that is pci-e?	03:24
genii	BluesKaj: At work, at home now but tired :)	03:25
genii	crackhead_25: You familiar with pastebin?	03:25
jmichaelx	is there such a thing as mini-pcie?	03:25
crackhead_25	yeah	03:25
crackhead_25	ill put up the etc/config..	03:25
crackhead_25	shall i?	03:25
genii	crackhead_25: No	03:25
bazhang	jmichaelx: I thought it was a very small card, smalller than pcmcia card even	03:26
genii	crackhead_25: Please pastebin results of: sudo fdisk -l and also /etc/fstab also result of command: mount	03:26
crackhead_25	fstab i mean	03:26
crackhead_25	yeah	03:26
crackhead_25	k	03:26
jmichaelx	bazhang: mini-pci is not the same as pcmcia... mini-pci cards are used in many laptops	03:26
bazhang	jmichaelx: so it is internal then?	03:27
jmichaelx	mini-pci cards are installed inside the laptop... yes, it is internal	03:27
crackhead_25	genii: http://pastebin.ca/807006 -- sudo fdisk	03:27
genii	crackhead_25: sudo fdisk -l yes? -l part important	03:28
genii	reading	03:28
crackhead_25	genii: http://pastebin.ca/807007 -- etc/fstab	03:28
bazhang	jmichaelx: I would suspect that the 11mb limit was a setting problem and not a hardware problem, either with the card or the router--did the bcm card reliably connect?	03:28
jmichaelx	my experience with the buntus so far is that a card my work in one version, not in the next... but then work again in the next	03:28
crackhead_25	http://pastebin.ca/807008 -- mount	03:29
jmichaelx	bazhang: no, it was (and probably is) a problem with the OS bcm43xx driver	03:29
genii	crackhead_25: OK, sdb1 looks like the one	03:29
bazhang	jmichaelx: I had to leave kubuntu during fiesty my wireless was so bad--came back for gutsy though	03:29
crackhead_25	genii: i added sdb1 to the fstab when it wasn't working	03:30
jmichaelx	bazhang: that is the opposite from my experience	03:30
crackhead_25	then i think i commented it out	03:30
jmichaelx	lol	03:30
crackhead_25	because it still wasn't working	03:30
bazhang	hehe	03:30
crackhead_25	it wasn't there to begin with, i dont think	03:30
genii	crackhead_25: No worries. post here result of command: blkid\|grep sdb and I'll give you a line to add to /etc/fstab for it	03:31
jmichaelx	bazhang: i compiled and the legacy rt2500 driver (from serialmonkey) last night, and it is way better than the driver that ships with *buntu, but so far it still royally sucks	03:31
bazhang	jmichaelx: this is way offtopic, but have you tried a live cd of another distro to see if the problem with the bcm card persists?	03:31
bazhang	jmichaelx: I have had nothing but awful experiences with ralink cards (plural)	03:32
* genii sips his grapefruit juice and waits for the post		03:33
jmichaelx	bazhang: as far as i know, the speed issue with bcm43xx-based cards is universal in linux when using th eOS driver... the only way around it is to use ndiswrapper... which is actually the route i should be taking with the rt2500 , too	03:33
crackhead_25	genii: blk... -- http://pastebin.ca/807010	03:33
jmichaelx	bazhang: i have had nothing but great experience with ralink, when not using *ubuntu	03:33
genii	crackhead_25: Bah. Need entire output, sorry. Just of: blkid	03:34
bazhang	jmichaelx: well, that is a last resort ndiswarper that is, but if it works...	03:34
genii	Or is it possible it has no uuid?	03:34
genii	Hmm	03:34
jmichaelx	bazhang: i know. i have learned some things, but am definitely far from a wireless wizard	03:34
crackhead_25	genii: http://pastebin.ca/807011 -- blkid	03:34
bazhang	jmichaelx: two weeks with ndiswarper and an external wireless card changed that for me..just wait you will be one soon :}	03:35
jmichaelx	bazhang: this rt2500 card is working great when i'm at home, but i often cannot connect at coffee-shops , etc, even on completely unencrypted networks	03:35
bazhang	jmichaelx: similar experience here, and as I do most of my blogging outside, a huge problem :{	03:36
jmichaelx	bazhang: you're probably right. i have never used ndiswrapper, and have never wanted to	03:36
maduser	ndiswaraper works great	03:36
genii	crackhead_25: I was going to use the uuid of it to write the proper line. But it seems no uuids are on your ntfs drives at all	03:36
bazhang	I prefer ndiswarper	03:36
jmichaelx	bazhang: are you able to get on public access points using ndiswrapper?	03:37
maduser	for me, yeah	03:37
bazhang	jmichaelx: mostly use my eeepc for that now, so have given up on that for the time being	03:38
jmichaelx	eeepc?	03:38
* jmichaelx drools		03:38
bazhang	haha	03:38
jmichaelx	i bet your eeepc rocks	03:38
genii	crackhead_25: Since no uuid we'll have to use the old /dev name.So into /etc/fstab, : /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1	03:38
maduser	ndiswaper works better then that restricted driver thing in 7.10	03:39
maduser	!eeepc	03:39
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about eeepc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:39
genii	crackhead_25: Then you need to make sure directory /media/sdb1 is there and if not, make it	03:39
bazhang	www.eeeuser.com	03:39
Jucato	maduser: ASUS Eee PC	03:39
maduser	ah that small thing	03:39
bazhang	sorry for the spam	03:39
crackhead_25	genii: ok, one sec.. can you explain the umask and gid meaning?	03:39
genii	crackhead_25: Not really. I suppose I could google them for a full explanation. They are the defaults already in there for your other drives at the moment.	03:41
genii	crackhead_25: The others read/write etc, yes?	03:41
jmichaelx	maduser: i love gutsy except for two things.... the buntu devs seem to be (who am i to say) kind of wreckless when it comes to wireless (like packaging the VERY unstable beta rt2500 driver in gutsy, instead of the stable legacy driver) , and i still have an issue with USB drives not mounting upon booting up.. i have to unplug them, then plug them back in for them to mount	03:41
* genii sips a coffee and ponders why no UUIDs on those ntfs drives		03:42
crackhead_25	genii: yeah, the others do, for the most part.. i think.. the others are internal drives..	03:42
genii	crackhead_25: Do you have Vista on that external?	03:43
crackhead_25	genii: no, the external is just media data.. mp3, avi, movies, songs.. etc.	03:43
genii	crackhead_25: Was it encrypted from inside Vista with Bitlocker?	03:43
crackhead_25	no, never encryped, i dont think.. never used it on viista either..	03:44
crackhead_25	ok, added the dir in /media.. mkdir..	03:44
crackhead_25	now what?	03:44
genii	crackhead_25: Try: mount -a then see if you can browse it from konq or dolphin	03:46
crackhead_25	genii: mount -a ... http://pastebin.ca/807020	03:47
crackhead_25	check the results.. i dont know/think it worked..	03:47
crackhead_25	yeah, it didnt.. i dont see the contents within that folder in konquerer..	03:48
genii	crackhead_25: open back up /etc/fstab ... go to just past last letter on last line in that file and hit enter twice. then save it, retry mount -s	03:49
genii	crackhead_25: mount -a rather	03:50
genii	crackhead_25: Also your sdb1 will not mount at all until you chkdsk it from XP/2K whatever. It says filesystem is marked unclean	03:51
crackhead_25	i never used it in windows.. should i plug it into my windows vista laptop and then run a chkdisk on it?	03:51
crackhead_25	it's firewire external connected	03:51
genii	crackhead_25: Yes, do that, chkdsk it then "Safely remove" it	03:52
genii	Or alternately shutdown system properly before disconnecting it, etc	03:52
crackhead_25	ok, be back in a few.. let you know when that's done.. may take a little while..	03:53
genii	np	03:53
crackhead_25	you have an email? can you share in private chat or somethin?	03:53
genii	crackhead_25: I avoid pm when possible	03:54
crackhead_25	ok .. just dont go anywhere :)	03:54
* genii glues himself to the desk!		03:54
BluesKaj	genii, next time I'm in TO , i'll treat you to big caffeine feast at starbucks or someting :)	03:55
BluesKaj	din't think this was gonna such a big prob	03:55
genii	BluesKaj: Yer on!	03:55
BluesKaj	cool !	03:56
genii	BluesKaj: His drive is marked unclean, i bet it's whats been his headache all along	03:56
BluesKaj	'unclean' err that sounds serious	03:56
* genii shrieks and points his finger in horror! "UNCLEAN!" he shrieks again!		03:57
BluesKaj	prolly needs a reformat	03:57
BluesKaj	hehe	03:57
genii	BluesKaj: Nah it just needs scandisk equivelent in xp/2k ..chkdsk	03:58
BluesKaj	Infidel !	03:58
jmichaelx	windows machines call drives dirty if they have unix partitions on them	03:58
BluesKaj	aha	03:58
jmichaelx	it is true	03:58
crackhead_25	genii: for some reason i cant get it plugged into my laptop. it was never plugged into the laptop. there is a 1394 plug socket, but it's not the correct size..	03:58
maduser	windows thinks unix is dirty?	03:59
jmichaelx	maduser: apparently	03:59
genii	crackhead_25: Damn. Is it dual 1394/USB?	03:59
* BluesKaj has an unclean drive ...I'll wipe the drive with my left hand the next time :)		03:59
jmichaelx	lol	03:59
crackhead_25	yeah, probably	04:00
genii	crackhead_25: If the drive can use both firewire and usb go srounge up a usb cord and use that then	04:01
genii	*scrounge	04:01
crackhead_25	genii: oh, no the firewire drive itself doesnt have a dual usb firewire..	04:02
crackhead_25	the port on the laptop is a dual usb/firewire socket..	04:03
crackhead_25	gateway convertible laptop	04:03
genii	crackhead_25: Ah Ok. Well, I guess it will need to wait then for the time being.	04:03
BluesKaj	I'm not much help here , so i'll hit the sack.. nite gents	04:03
crackhead_25	its says there is some fix program for linux that could work? or will that reformat it? i can't reformat it. have to keep the data on it.	04:03
genii	crackhead_25: But after you chkdsk it in Windows, should mount in linux anyhow	04:03
genii	crackhead_25: I would NOT suggest messing with unclean ntfs from linux	04:04
crackhead_25	ok	04:04
crackhead_25	is there a similar "remove device safely" function in linux? could my having merely plugged and unplugged it from the linux a few times have caused the same uncleanliness?	04:05
genii	crackhead_25: Please do command: locate ntfsfix and tell me if it finds it	04:07
crackhead_25	didnt seem to find it	04:07
crackhead_25	should i install it?	04:08
genii	crackhead_25: OK. For external drives or drives which get removed sometimes a good option to make sure they sync before removing them	04:08
crackhead_25	what is it?	04:08
crackhead_25	how do i do that?	04:08
genii	crackhead_25: ntfsfix is a part of linux-ntfs toolkit, just reading about it now	04:08
genii	crackhead_25: to sync drives, just the command: sync by itself. Then you can umount /media/sdb1 with no half-copied files in buffer but not on drive, etc	04:10
refreshrate	damn kubuntu monitor settings is crazy and interfers with nvidia drivers-it says 53hz when its actually 60, i changed it to 50 hz and my refresh rate became 75hz as i wanted	04:11
crackhead_25	genii: do you mean you have to do a commandline everytime you want to plug /unplug? isnt there a better way/a little applet to run in the toolbar or something?	04:12
genii	crackhead_25: You can also alternately add option of nosync to the /etc/fstab line for sdb1	04:12
crackhead_25	ill have to look.. maybe..	04:12
crackhead_25	no sync? what would that do? maybe ill do that..	04:12
genii	crackhead_25: nosync means not to store/buffer data bound for drives which can be disconnected like usb/nfs etc	04:13
crackhead_25	do i add that after gid=46?	04:13
genii	crackhead_25: It writes anything immediately to drive so always marked clean if you umount it	04:14
genii	crackhead_25: add it just after defaults	04:14
crackhead_25	k, i did	04:15
genii	since defaults includes sync the nosync overrides it if placed after	04:15
genii	crackhead_25: Since you can't chkdsk it yet, there's not much more to be done for it tonight	04:18
* genii puts the coffeemug away and starts drinking milk out of the container		04:20
crackhead_25	genii: ok, thanks.. ill be back to it soon.. see if i can get a little converter plug for the 1394 socket tomorrow maybe..	04:21
genii	crackhead_25: here time is nearing midnight. I'm normqally online daytimes here from about 9am til 4:45pm-ish Toronto EST	04:22
crackhead_25	EST as well	04:22
genii	Well 11:22 actually pm	04:22
genii	crackhead_25: You can catch me almost any weekday then in those times, sometimes later from home like now as well	04:23
genii	crackhead_25: If there's a Leafs game on expect lag :)	04:24
crackhead_25	genii: fantastic. youve been a great help. thank you again	04:31
genii	crackhead_25: You're welcome	04:31
genii	!helpersnack > genii	04:33
ryan-c	is there any workaround for getting amarok to work properly with playlists that have http user/passwords embeded in them?	04:37
ryan-c	I have a di.fm premium subscription, and it's choking on the playlists.	04:37
=== tss_ is now known as Knightlust
denis	e ai galera :D	04:44
Neoxeekhrobe	Guys I need to decide in which format I should rip my music library. I have an iPod Nano 3g(not yet supported under Linux) but no iTunes, UIQ3 phone and Kubuntu?	04:46
Neoxeekhrobe	I need music while I work with my computer and on the go.	04:46
Neoxeekhrobe	What i want to do is to rip them and back them up on cds so that I don't have to rip again if something goes wrong and I lose my data	04:47
ryan-c	Neoxeekhrobe: Rip to flac, and convert to mp3 if you need it for a player.	04:49
Neoxeekhrobe	yah but ripping again and again wont be that easy and flac takes a lot of space.	04:50
adamonline45	I'm trying to change my default sound-mixer slider to change the 'PCM' volume instead of the 'master' volume. Does anyone know how to do this in KDE?	04:51
adamonline45	oops, here's a how-to for gnome, but it uses gconftool-2, and I don't seem to have the target directories it specifies: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook#head-d374bb9e1b7183c133759a8c6877a34c50c4ba7d	04:52
Neoxeekhrobe	adam: use kmixer	04:53
Jucato	adamonline45: right-click on the kmix (speaker) icon in your system tray and click on Select Master Channel...	04:56
adamonline45	Neoxeekhrobe: Alright, I'll check it out. Do you mean KMix, or is that a separate application? oh okay	04:56
Neoxeekhrobe	yah kmix	04:57
adamonline45	Jucato: I did that. I think I see what the problem is, it works if I change the volume from there now, thank you, but using my IR remote it still changes the Master volume instead of PCM. Do either of you know where I might find some conf file or something that'll let me change that?	04:58
Dr_willis	the remote stuff has its own config files. :)	04:58
Jucato	adamonline45: did you select PCM to be the Master Channel?	04:59
adamonline45	Dr_willis: Do you happen to know where I'd find that or what it's called? Even a guess?	04:59
Dr_willis	Id say ask in #ubuntu-mythtv i bet they would know.. I found the remote i had.. lacking. so i dont use it any more.	04:59
adamonline45	Jucato: I did, yes. Now the slider on the sound icon in the taskbar works as expected, just the IR mote...	05:00
adamonline45	er, just the mote *doesn't.	05:00
Dr_willis	its proberly somthing to do with 'lirc'	05:00
Dr_willis	etc/lirc/lircd.conf	05:00
Dr_willis	To find out how to get a proper configuration file please read:---> /usr/share/doc/lirc/README.Debian	05:01
Dr_willis	Heh - what a good comment in a config file.	05:02
adamonline45	Dr_willis: Haha, nice! I think Samba does that... BRB, and thank you in case I'm too late to say it later...	05:03
josue	hola	05:03
josue	ubuntu-es	05:04
Jucato	!es \| josue	05:04
ubotu	josue: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	05:04
=== Shely is now known as MJ086
marshall_	hello?	05:14
compbrain	hi	05:14
marshall_	can someone help me, im new to linux and im trying to install ndiswrapper-1.50, but i cannot figure it out	05:15
hydrogen	!ndiswrapper \| marshall_	05:15
ubotu	marshall_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	05:15
Frederick	folks how do I add support for pt-br in kile?	05:19
maduser	marshall: are you using a broadcom wireless card 43xx?	05:34
navetz	can i get photoshop working with wine somehow	05:36
maduser	use GIMP insted	05:36
maduser	get it through adept	05:37
Jucato	GIMP, Krita, etc. navetz you can try to ask in #winehq about that though	05:38
maduser	gimp is open gl	05:38
maduser	you don't need wine for gimp	05:38
navetz	i dont like gimp	05:39
maduser	have you ever used it?	05:39
* Jucato was referring to asking about PS in #winehq		05:39
navetz	i have tried using it for about 6 months now and im am very sick of it	05:39
Jucato	and open gl?	05:39
navetz	irc://irc.ubuntu.com:8001/winehq	05:39
navetz	whoops	05:39
maduser	aren't all linux GUI programs writen with open GL?	05:40
maduser	for for open GL	05:40
Jucato	no	05:40
Jucato	has nothing to do w/ open gl	05:40
maduser	really?	05:40
maduser	isn't open gl for the graphics?	05:41
Jucato	doesn't mean that all GUI programs are written with/for Open GL	05:41
* Jucato really doesn't have the time to be explaining this though		05:42
maduser	I'll google it	05:42
Jucato	thanks	05:42
Dr_willis	:)	05:43
Dr_willis	!opengl	05:43
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	05:43
PupUsered190c	heyall. Can't seem to find a solution for my problem on forums...	05:46
PupUsered190c	here goes..	05:47
* Dr_willis waits...		05:47
PupUsered190c	Been using kubuntu for about a year w/o any problems until yesterday.	05:47
PupUsered190c	when I tried to connect to a public wifi spot	05:48
PupUsered190c	my card became disabled..	05:48
PupUsered190c	and now I can't get it working again.	05:49
PupUsered190c	using puppy right now so it isn't the card itself...	05:49
maduser	what kind of cars do you have	05:49
PupUsered190c	googled but no luck. Any ideas (please)?	05:49
marshall_	volvo 1982 240dl :P	05:50
Jucato	heheh :)	05:50
PupUsered190c	it's actually a Pentium centrino (T43)	05:50
Jucato	O.o	05:50
maduser	wireless card	05:50
* Jucato guesses he didn't get the joke :)		05:50
PupUsered190c	lol	05:50
marshall_	lol	05:50
maduser	no i did not	05:51
maduser	i'm a sad person	05:51
marshall_	im sorry :(	05:51
Jucato	[13:49] <maduser> what kind of cars do you have --> [13:50] <marshall_> volvo 1982 240dl :P	05:51
marshall_	please continue helping that man	05:51
marshall_	ignore me	05:51
Jucato	:)	05:51
PupUsered190c	:) thanks	05:51
PupUsered190c	looked through the help files too but was unable to make any progress. Kubuntu just seems to have stopped recognizing the wireless...	05:52
PupUsered190c	hoping to not have to reinstall	05:53
Jucato	PupUsered190c: maduser was asking what kind of wireless card you have	05:53
maduser	yeah	05:53
PupUsered190c	pentium centrino 2ghz	05:53
PupUsered190c	wireless integrated...	05:53
marshall_	reinstall drivers?	05:54
marshall_	can you do that on kubuntu lol? I just started using it today :D	05:54
PupUsered190c	not sure how..might you give me a URL to a guide. fairly new to the cmd line but i feel confident...	05:55
PupUsered190c	been a linux addict for about a year now.	05:55
marshall_	it making me angry so far i cant get my damn usb wifi to work	05:55
PupUsered190c	bought this thinkpad because of *nix :)	05:56
Jucato	PupUsered190c: Pentium Centrino is your processor. it doesn't tell us anything about your motherboard, much less your wireless card :)	05:56
Jucato	lspci could give you a hint.	05:56
PupUsered190c	hmmm...lemme open a term...	05:56
Jucato	(or "iwconfig" I think)	05:57
marshall_	can anyone help me get a Wifi usb adapter to work?	05:58
PupUsered190c	iwconfig shows the network lspci shows nothin.. shall I past?	05:59
Jucato	!pastebin \| PupUsered190c	06:00
ubotu	PupUsered190c: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:00
Jucato	PupUsered190c: the output of lspci	06:00
PupUsered190c	k brb	06:00
forevertheuni	hey all :D	06:02
forevertheuni	is there an option like in gnome(ubuntu) to enamble compiz-fusion?	06:02
Jucato	!compiz	06:03
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	06:03
forevertheuni	or i'll have to load it from the icon in bar or mannualy?	06:03
forevertheuni	ah	06:03
forevertheuni	ok tnx	06:03
forevertheuni	about kde4...is there any app like knetworkmanager?	06:05
forevertheuni	I have the rc1 already installed	06:05
Jucato	you can use kde3 apps in kde4. I don't know if knetworkmanager has been ported to kde4 already	06:06
forevertheuni	I run "knetowrkmanger" and had msg saying klaunchinit couldn't start it...or something like that	06:06
forevertheuni	and the....application to the desktop(widgets gadgets plasmoids ...whatever)..I can't move them..is there any trick?	06:07
maduser	unlock them	06:07
* Jucato doesn't recommend using rc1. wait for rc2 in a few days (or a week)		06:08
forevertheuni	:) I'm not really using	06:09
forevertheuni	just trying to see how it works	06:09
marshall_	where can i dl compiz?	06:10
maduser	adept	06:10
* Jucato points marshall_ to what the bot said just a bit earlier		06:10
marshall_	i closed my window by nistake its not there anymoe :(	06:11
Jucato	!compiz	06:11
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	06:11
forevertheuni	will 8.04 come with kde4?	06:11
marshall_	thanks	06:11
PupUsered190c	sorry all lost my conncetion	06:11
PupUsered190c	anyway, I can't copy from puppy's terminal...	06:11
PupUsered190c	outout of lspci is a set of #'s that look alot like:	06:12
PupUsered190c	00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:2590 (rev 03)	06:13
PupUsered190c	what was the url for the pasting area?	06:13
Jucato	!pastebin	06:13
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:13
Jucato	PupUsered190c: do you see a line that says something like "Ethernet controller"?	06:13
PupUsered190c	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47070/	06:14
PupUsered190c	BTW thanks for beign such a cohecive community y'all. One of the big reasons I quit Windoze :)	06:15
Jucato	that's a very weird lspci output	06:16
forevertheuni	what's his problem?	06:16
PupUsered190c	negative Jucato...	06:16
marshall_	jucato, can you help me with compiz lol, none of this makes sense to me!	06:16
forevertheuni	pup...your ethernet is not seen?	06:16
PupUsered190c	could it be because I'm running puppy from ram?	06:16
Jucato	PupUsered190c: yes. unfortunately, I can't read anything from there	06:16
Jucato	yes	06:16
PupUsered190c	damn...	06:17
forevertheuni	do a dmesg	06:17
Jucato	marshall_: sorry, I don't use compiz. try asking in #compiz-fusion	06:17
PupUsered190c	currently it's the only way i can get online...	06:17
forevertheuni	marshall_ pvt me	06:17
marshall_	how rofl	06:17
marshall_	im 3 hous into linux ><	06:17
Jucato	click on his nick and a new tab will open	06:17
Jucato	you can chat in private	06:17
ardchoille	forevertheuni: he's not id'd, he won't be able to respond unless you've turned filtering off	06:18
=== benoit_ is now known as benoit__
forevertheuni	oh	06:19
forevertheuni	ardchoille, didn't know that	06:19
marshall_	forever i have to register to talk to you or something	06:19
forevertheuni	marshall_, did you read what I sent to ya?	06:20
marshall_	yea	06:20
ardchoille	forevertheuni: But you two can join #forevertheuni or #marshall_ :)	06:20
forevertheuni	ok	06:20
forevertheuni	try to do that	06:20
PupUsered190c	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47071/	06:20
PupUsered190c	marshall: the learning curve is kinda steep but its VERY worth it!	06:21
forevertheuni	pup...I still dunno your problem	06:21
PupUsered190c	damn...	06:21
PupUsered190c	might have to reinstall...	06:22
forevertheuni	marshall join #buh	06:22
PupUsered190c	pw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.1.2k	06:22
Jucato	[13:47] <PupUsered190c> Been using kubuntu for about a year w/o any problems until yesterday. when I tried to connect to a public wifi spot my card became disabled.. and now I can't get it working again.	06:22
Jucato	forevertheuni: ^^^	06:22
PupUsered190c	sorry forever misunderstood ya...	06:23
Jucato	PupUsered190c: your card seems to be an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG	06:23
Jucato	(which is the same as my laptop, and doesn't have problems)	06:23
PupUsered190c	yep just figured that out :)	06:23
Jucato	!wireless	06:24
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	06:24
PupUsered190c	wierd becasue it's been problem free for so long!	06:24
Jucato	unfortunately, I'm not wireless guru, so...	06:24
PupUsered190c	hmmm	06:24
=== marshall_ is now known as Commander_Giggle
PupUsered190c	what happend is this: I connected to a public hot spot. Had to restart for an unrelated reason and when KDE came up again, Knetwork Manager shows my wireless device greyed out and the wireless indicator light wont come on...	06:26
PupUsered190c	as I said before, it isn't the card itself as Im using it now with Puppy Linux loaded to RAM...	06:26
PupUsered190c	Anyway, I appretiate all of your attempt at helping...	06:27
PupUsered190c	:( guess I'll reinstall...	06:28
PupUsered190c	thanks again...	06:30
PupUsered190c	bye all....	06:30
rishi	@all hie..	06:39
rishi	hows the experience with gutsy?	06:40
ardchoille	rishi: I've not had any problems at all on any of my 11 boxes.	06:40
rishi	@ardchoulle .. dats good	06:42
rishi	any1 tried compiz?	06:42
forevertheuni	!compiz	06:44
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	06:44
Commander_Giggle	OH JEEZ	06:48
Commander_Giggle	nvrmind me ....	06:48
Commander_Giggle	srry lol	06:48
forevertheuni	!pastebin	06:49
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:49
d03boy	I need to quickly run a dhcpd server? what do I do?	06:53
factorx	sudo apt-get install dnsmasq	06:55
factorx	it's a lean dns caching and dhcp server	06:56
d03boy	alrighty	06:57
d03boy	hrm	06:59
d03boy	dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket for ::1: Address already in use	07:01
maduser	!dnsmasq	07:03
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dnsmasq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	07:03
forevertheuni	d03boy, lol	07:06
forevertheuni	u have other one running?	07:06
d03boy	eh?	07:06
forevertheuni	lool	07:06
forevertheuni	that's what it said	07:06
forevertheuni	d03boy, ....	07:06
forevertheuni	nmap localhost	07:06
forevertheuni	hmm..will dhcpd appear there?	07:07
d03boy	qshows domain and ipp	07:07
forevertheuni	dnsmask also is dns server right?	07:07
kaankee	hi can i know which is the best SVN that can be used on kubuntu platform	07:07
d03boy	hmm?	07:07
factorx	forevertheuni: no, it's a dns caching server	07:07
Ahmuck	is there an option in kubuntu --> send to vt?	07:08
forevertheuni	:(	07:09
forevertheuni	lol	07:09
forevertheuni	I used to use dhcpd	07:09
Ahmuck	for example, i have two sessions open, one on f7 and the other on f9. i want to send an app to f9 without closing it	07:09
forevertheuni	but that usually needs some reading in the config file	07:09
factorx	forevertheuni: basically it reads the local /etc/hosts and resolves every host in it for the local network. every other dns request is forwarded to the nameserver found in /etc/resolv.conf	07:09
d03boy	screw it. i'll do it a different way	07:09
forevertheuni	factorx, hmm but it uses the dns doors?	07:10
forevertheuni	d03boy, i'm downloading the file...it is stupidilly slow	07:10
factorx	forevertheuni: u mean doors = ports?	07:10
forevertheuni	oh yes..	07:10
forevertheuni	its 7am here	07:11
forevertheuni	O.o	07:11
forevertheuni	my eyes are lite. like that	07:11
factorx	yes, it does. because it can be used as a dns forwarder in a local network	07:11
factorx	it's perfect as a dns forwarder and dhcp server in a local network behind a dsl router or something	07:12
forevertheuni	I was saying that	07:12
forevertheuni	he has probably some other dns server running	07:12
forevertheuni	dnsmasq...is still a server to lan's eyes	07:12
factorx	sure it is	07:12
forevertheuni	I'm not saying its not	07:13
forevertheuni	I was only trying to solve the dude's problem	07:13
forevertheuni	:)	07:13
factorx	oic	07:13
factorx	if he's already running BIND or something dnsmasq is probably not the right choice	07:14
d03boy	dont worry about it guys	07:14
d03boy	too late	07:14
Dooms	hey can any of you guys watch this video i made? And yes im the girl	07:15
Dooms	http://youtube.com/watch?v=eXdkyAyOcGo	07:15
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dsmith_	eh?	07:16
maduser	what?	07:22
maduser	Dooms:you use kubutnu?	07:22
Jucato	maduser: it's most probably a spambot (seeing it is in so many channels, most probably saying the same thing)	07:23
Jucato	(and it is also gone btw)	07:24
maduser	Can't we block spam bots?	07:24
Jucato	we can. but only after they've spammed once. It's called a ban. :D	07:25
maduser	right	07:25
Jucato	(and it's the same thing we use to deal with trolls and miscreants :D)	07:25
maduser	cool	07:25
maduser	if thats a spam bot...	07:29
DeadJones	i've found that by banning mp3 channels, it's drastically cut down on the number of spam craps.	07:35
sigma	does anyone know if a panel applet to control amarok exists?	07:38
Jucato	sigma: amarocker I think. you can probably find some in http://kde-apps.org	07:40
Jucato	There's also the Media Control panel applet	07:40
Jucato	!info kicker-applets	07:41
ubotu	kicker-applets: applets for Kicker, the KDE panel. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 223 kB, installed size 888 kB	07:41
Jucato	I think the Media Control applet is there	07:41
Jucato	yep, Media Control can control Amarok	07:41
adamonline45	nice! Just yionked that info 8)	07:43
* Jucato also notes that Amarok has very useful Global keyboard shortcuts so you don't need to have a control applet..		07:44
adamonline45	Jucato: I'd actually most like to use my macbook remote, but I think the signal gets hooked by the OS before it gets to amarok, as it's not responding (though I can bind the remote keys by pressing them in the binding menu)	07:46
adamonline45	My reall question, though, is if anyone has any information on installing the Domino style engine?	07:47
sigma	Jucato: Yup I know that - tried to get the next / prev track set to the + - volume buttons on my mouse - but when i press the mouse buttons it only adjusts the volume and not the track, where do i stop the mouse buttons from adjusting the audio?	07:47
* adamonline45 listens intently		07:48
Jucato	sigma: that I don't know. sorry	07:50
Jucato	(it's more of a mouse button-mapping problem I think)	07:51
Jucato	sorry to disappoint you adamonline45 :)	07:51
Jucato	adamonline45: what about Domino?	07:51
Jucato	!info kde-style-domino hardy	07:54
ubotu	kde-style-domino: Domino widget style and kwin decoration for KDE3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 330 kB, installed size 1136 kB	07:54
Lynoure	Is there a way in KDE to have a window on multiple desktops, but not on all?	07:54
adamonline45	Well, I'm installing it from source... is there a package? Anyway, I'm getting an error at the ./configure stage saying it can't find my X config...	07:55
adamonline45	Jucato: the error: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!	07:56
Jucato	!xincludes \| adamonline45	07:56
ubotu	adamonline45: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev xlibs-static-dev xorg-dev	07:56
Jucato	Lynoure: afaik, no... (or at least maybe not yet)	07:56
Jucato	adamonline45: and there's a package for Kubuntu floating around somewhere in http://kde-look.org	07:57
sigma	is it true that feisty packages will not install in gutsy?	07:57
Lynoure	sigma: some do.	07:57
Lynoure	sigma: but it's recommended against.	07:57
Lynoure	That is: feel free to try, but don't expect people to be eager to help if it breaks something	07:58
adamonline45	Jucato: It says there's no package xlibs-dev... Or, that it's been obsoleted. :/	07:58
sigma	i see, is it dangerous to install them? i know the graphics drivers don't work but thats understandable as they are rather crucial to the system	07:59
Jucato	adamonline45: try xorg-dev. but I really do suggest you try to look for the .deb package first	07:59
Lynoure	sigma: What packege are you eyeing, specifically?	08:00
Jucato	sigma: more "unrecommended" than dangerous. Some packages might cause severe problems, some might not. The question is, are you willing to risk it? :D	08:00
Lynoure	sigma: and are you talking about official feisty packages or stuff packaged by a 3rd party?	08:00
sigma	i have a whole lot from feisty - my i-net connection is rather slow and expensive so i dont want to re-download them - its mainly the audio and video codecs	08:01
adamonline45	!qtincludes	08:01
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about qtincludes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	08:01
adamonline45	dang... Jucato, I'm getting an error about Qt now... Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) headers and libraries not found...	08:02
Jucato	libqt3-mt-dev	08:02
Jucato	(but you're not listening, are you?)	08:02
* Jucato shrugs		08:02
adamonline45	me?	08:03
adamonline45	oh i thought you meant the deb package of xorg-dev... er, the one I couldn't get	08:03
Jucato	<adamonline45> Well, I'm installing it from source... is there a package? <Jucato> adamonline45: and there's a package for Kubuntu floating around somewhere in http://kde-look.org	08:03
adamonline45	ooh got you	08:04
adamonline45	alright, I only saw the source... I'll scour :) Don't know how I missed that though... :S	08:04
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adamonline45	Jucato: er, your message, not the .deb	08:05
sigma_	does anyone here know how to use the "xrandr" command properly?	08:05
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sigma_	when i type xrandr and hit enter it says my svideo is disconnected even when it is hooked up to the tv. how do i force the detection?	08:09
adamonline45	Jucato: Yay! I found it and it installed nicely! Thanks a lot 8)	08:12
ActionParsnip	hi al	08:17
sigma_	when i type xrandr and hit enter it says my svideo is disconnected even when it is hooked up to the tv. how do i force the detection?	08:18
GerrySly	alright this is pissing me off, everytime I attempt to open like 4 tabs in firefox it logs me off	08:18
GerrySly	like it is overloading as it just locks up and then just logs off	08:18
GerrySly	just happened again :(	08:19
sigma_	GerrySly: where did u install firefox from?	08:19
GerrySly	repositories	08:19
GerrySly	Install/Mange Programs > Firefox	08:20
sigma_	firefox v2.0.0.8 or the beta v3.0?	08:20
david__	hello	08:20
sigma_	ok thern you dont have the beta	08:20
GerrySly	2.0.0.11	08:20
GerrySly	nope not the beta	08:20
ActionParsnip	hi david__	08:20
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: try renaming your ~/.firefox folder and rerunning it	08:21
GerrySly	i'll give it a crack	08:21
sigma_	id say uninstall it - download the package manually from packages.ubuntu.com and install it again	08:21
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: or it might be ~/.mozilla	08:21
GerrySly	yeah it's ~/.mozilla	08:22
kraut	moin	08:22
endofnite	moin moin	08:22
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: cool, any good once you've renamed it	08:22
GerrySly	testing opening like 10 tabs now	08:23
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: sweet	08:23
* ActionParsnip crosses his fingers		08:23
GerrySly	seems to be working fine	08:24
GerrySly	yup it worked perfectly	08:24
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: ok now you need to get the favorites from the old folder and you're ok	08:24
GerrySly	yeah, I imported them from Windows so I still got em sitting there	08:25
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: sweet	08:25
GerrySly	thanks	08:25
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: if you are happy with it you can rmdir the old profile (or keep it if you wanna)	08:25
GerrySly	i'll just let it stay, wait a few days, then remove	08:26
GerrySly	i'm loving linux more and more	08:26
ardchoille	:)	08:26
GerrySly	so much more control than m$	08:26
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: indeedy :)	08:27
ardchoille	GerrySly: Not to mention freedom	08:27
ActionParsnip	GerrySly: and no virus' too	08:27
GerrySly	that's true	08:27
ardchoille	And you can't beat the price ;)	08:28
* ActionParsnip laughs heartily		08:28
GerrySly	and coding is absolutely insane, in windoze I had to download everything, here it is pretty much all already loaded and ready to go	08:28
GerrySly	oh yeah and the price is great :)	08:28
ActionParsnip	where i work they all run xp but run open source software apps	08:28
ActionParsnip	its really quite annoying	08:28
ardchoille	leechers	08:29
ardchoille	:P	08:29
GerrySly	yeah I was doing that for a while	08:29
GerrySly	then I realised I was just kidding myself and switched	08:29
ardchoille	hehe	08:29
ActionParsnip	I just got sick of BSOD and stuck mandrake on my rig	08:29
ActionParsnip	then tried kubuntu and never looked back	08:30
ardchoille	IS there no Frogger game for Linux? That's the one game I miss	08:30
Daisuke_Ido	!find frogger	08:30
Daisuke_Ido	there's gotta be	08:30
Daisuke_Ido	and if not, mame :D	08:30
ubotu	Package/file frogger does not exist in gutsy	08:31
ActionParsnip	Daisuke_Ido: http://www.pixjuegos.com/descargas/pixfrogger-1.0.tar.bz2	08:31
ActionParsnip	Daisuke_Ido: http://www.pixjuegos.com/?q=node/59	08:32
Daisuke_Ido	ActionParsnip: yeah, but ardchoille was the one looking :)	08:32
ActionParsnip	Daisuke_Ido: its up to 4 players :D	08:32
ActionParsnip	Daisuke_Ido: my bad	08:32
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: http://www.pixjuegos.com/?q=node/59	08:32
Daisuke_Ido	no worries. i'll check it out too :D	08:33
ActionParsnip	looks awesome	08:33
ardchoille	ActionParsnip: W00T!	08:33
apparle	anyone uses kdevelop	08:35
ardchoille	ActionParsnip: This looks like binary only	08:36
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: lemme check	08:37
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: how about a flash version?	08:39
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: http://www.neave.com/games/frogger/	08:39
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/games/pixfrogger	08:41
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: its in the sources :D	08:41
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icewaterman	i have a question about gnupg: why is a key i just imported not marked as trusted even though the key is signed by another key that i have assigned unlimited trust to (and signed that other key myself)?	08:41
ardchoille	ActionParsnip: I'm not running hardy	08:42
ardchoille	The flash version is good	08:42
ardchoille	ActionParsnip: Thanks :)	08:42
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: np man	08:42
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: does "sudo apt-get install pixfrogger" not work?	08:43
ardchoille	!info pixfrogger	08:43
ubotu	Package pixfrogger does not exist in gutsy	08:43
ardchoille	ActionParsnip: Not in Gutsy :)	08:43
ActionParsnip	!bah	08:43
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about bah - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	08:43
ActionParsnip	!!	08:43
ardchoille	!info pixfrogger hardy	08:44
ubotu	pixfrogger: help the frog cross the street. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0-1 (hardy), package size 2183 kB, installed size 2504 kB	08:44
ardchoille	Well, nice to know it'll be there when I switch to hardy	08:44
Daisuke_Ido	backports?	08:44
ardchoille	I've been burned by backports, I won't use them	08:44
Daisuke_Ido	really doubt it's important enough to be backported	08:45
pastryness	do u guys suggest i download gutsy gibbon or dapper drake?	08:45
ActionParsnip	pastryness: get gutsy	08:45
pastryness	ok	08:45
ardchoille	See, it's in hardy but not in gutsy. So, someone who upgrades from gutsy to hardy via cli won't get it even though they are upgrading.	08:45
ardchoille	pastryness: Dapper is quite old now	08:46
Daisuke_Ido	dapper's only plus is that it's supported for a while yet	08:47
ActionParsnip	WHat's new in Hardy Heron? Gutsy hasn't been out too long	08:47
adamonline45	Are there any font packages?	08:47
Daisuke_Ido	ActionParsnip: that's how it works, six months between releases	08:47
ActionParsnip	oic cheers Daisuke_Ido	08:47
Daisuke_Ido	and as for kubuntu hardy, it's a lot of catching up to ubuntu	08:47
Daisuke_Ido	finally	08:48
adamonline45	I thought they were identical but the WM	08:48
Daisuke_Ido	...yes BUT.	08:48
Daisuke_Ido	look at some of the things u got before k did	08:48
Daisuke_Ido	restricted driver manager	08:49
adamonline45	AWN	08:49
Daisuke_Ido	that's not what i'm talking about	08:49
Daisuke_Ido	AWN isn't part of ubuntu	08:49
adamonline45	oh okay	08:49
adamonline45	yeah	08:49
Daisuke_Ido	and it doesn't play nice with kde anyway :)	08:49
Daisuke_Ido	you have kiba-dock	08:49
adamonline45	yeah... So I learned 8)	08:49
Daisuke_Ido	while the only difference in the base system is the WM, there are app differences where kubuntu is still catching up	08:50
adamonline45	True, something made me steer clear of kiba-dock though... I forget what... Maybe I didn't feel like compiling from source or installing a bunch of dependencies or something, heheh...	08:52
ActionParsnip	adamonline45: http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/how-to-install-kiba-dock-in-ubuntu-gutsy/	08:54
ActionParsnip	adamonline45: i think you can just change feisty for gutsy	08:55
ardchoille	Well, Hardy will be an LTS release too	08:56
apparle	where do i get the doc for kdevelop	08:57
ardchoille	kdevelop3-doc	08:57
ardchoille	or kdevelop-doc	08:57
ardchoille	apparle: Try this: apt-cache search appname	08:58
ardchoille	Or if you want to search only in names: apt-cache search --names-only appname	08:58
ActionParsnip	!moo	08:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	08:59
yuri_	How can I fix dual screen on kubuntu, I have drivers for a intell card (laptop), At least I think so, since glxgears will run at 320 fps.	09:00
ActionParsnip	yuri_: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/69638-setting-up-dual-screen.html	09:00
yuri_	ActionParsnip: thanks	09:01
ActionParsnip	yuri_: ALWAYS backup your xorg.conf before playing with it :)	09:02
ardchoille	I feel that /etc/X11/xorg.conf is one of those files that the system installer should make a backup of during initial install	09:03
yuri_	ActionParsnip: Yes, yes, I am a noob, but not that kind of one :)	09:04
yuri_	thanx for the tip though.	09:04
ActionParsnip	yuri_: I advise everyone equally :D	09:04
yuri_	ActionParsnip: I'm an opensuse user, trying to fix someone elses kubuntu laptop, I miss the SaX :)	09:04
ActionParsnip	yuri_: SaX?	09:06
yuri_	ActionParsnip: it is a xorg front end for opensuse (I just realised it is a opensuse thing, and not shipped with other distros	09:07
apparle	ardchoille: tell me something which can be done on WIN XP	09:07
someone	bash doesn't seem to be reading in /etc/profile or ~/.profile why is this ?	09:07
apparle	the resolution of my logo screen has changed what to do??	09:09
ActionParsnip	apparle: what logo screen?	09:10
apparle	sorry logon screen	09:11
ActionParsnip	apparle: is it too low or too high?	09:13
ActionParsnip	apparle: n /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the first entry in the "modes" lines of the various Screen->Display subsections determines the default resolution for X.	09:13
apparle	ActionParsnip: I don't know. The screen seems to be compresses horizontally	09:13
ActionParsnip	apparle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151192	09:14
ownedd	can i start windows setup in kubuntu form the windows-CD?	09:15
ActionParsnip	!virtualbox \| ownedd	09:17
ubotu	ownedd: VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox	09:17
ActionParsnip	ownedd: you can run it as a virtualbox. Is that what you meant?	09:19
ownedd	no, i was thinking of a dual-boot. windows - kubuntu.	09:20
apparle	ActionParsnip:thanks I will try when I am home	09:20
CrocoJet	good morning !	09:20
ownedd	but my cd is fckd, it doesnt start after reboot.	09:20
CrocoJet	someone knows if exist .iso of install kubuntu update ?	09:21
CrocoJet	I am getting lot problems with install process kubuntu	09:21
ardchoille	apparle: I ahven't used Windows for years, I don't know anything about it	09:21
ownedd	so i have to start it manualy. :S	09:22
ActionParsnip	ownedd: if your cd is faulty it wont installunder anything	09:23
CrocoJet	ownedd, are you talking about windows cd instalation?	09:23
james296	does anyone here know how to use the KBFX menu?	09:24
james296	I cant find it anywhere when I right click the K menu...	09:24
ardchoille	james296: Have you installed it?	09:25
james296	it came with Kubuntu	09:25
ownedd	i have kubuntu installed on my computer, and i want to run windows aswell (dual-boot). but my windows-cd is fckd so it doesnt start after i reboot my computer.	09:25
factorx	!flash	09:25
ubotu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	09:25
CrocoJet	ownedd, try to make diskdump of cd windows	09:25
ownedd	how to do that?	09:25
ardchoille	james296: kubuntu doesn't ship with kbfx unless you're talking about hardy	09:26
ActionParsnip	ownedd: then you need a new windows cd to install on the spre space you set aside	09:26
CrocoJet	use command: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/????/win.img bs=16M	09:26
CrocoJet	after burn to other cdrom	09:26
james296	well, Gutsy seems to have came w/ it cuz the configurator for it is on it...	09:26
CrocoJet	Gutsy is full bugs	09:27
ardchoille	james296: What configurator?	09:27
ardchoille	CrocoJet: That's your opinion	09:27
CrocoJet	ardchoille, I am getting lots .. only installation process	09:27
ardchoille	CrocoJet: I haven't seen one yet and I installed Gutsy when it was released	09:28
james296	for KBFX	09:28
jpatrick	CrocoJet: so.. do something about it :)	09:28
ardchoille	james296: I mean where is the configurator? In kcontrol? System Settings?	09:28
james296	yes in the K menu and Settings	09:29
ownedd	i have the windows-CD but the only problem is that it doesnt start after i reboot my computer. and i dont have an win.img file :S	09:29
ardchoille	james296: I am using Gutsy and don't see anything about kbfx. Can you tell me exactly where in settings you are seeing this?	09:29
CrocoJet	error with these files: libqt3-mt, kdelibs4c2a, adept-manager, adept-installer, adept-updater adept-notifier, adept-batch, adept, libk3b2, k3b, kdesudo, openoffice.org-kde	09:29
CrocoJet	this happen in first process of update	09:30
CrocoJet	ownedd, create one with command	09:30
james296	maybe its because I have installed extras using gnome...	09:30
james296	for Kubuntu	09:30
ardchoille	james296: :)	09:30
ActionParsnip	ownedd: is your bios set to boot from cd?	09:31
james296	whats the smilie for?	09:32
ardchoille	You have it because you installed it, it doesn't come with Gutsy	09:32
james296	ok	09:33
james296	but its available in the repos, thats kinda what I meant, anyway, how can I get to use it?	09:33
ardchoille	james296: Although, kde4 will have 4 different types of menus to choose from.	09:34
CrocoJet	ardchoille, did you make install flash plugin using konqueror ?	09:34
james296	REALLY??	09:34
CrocoJet	no success here after install	09:34
apparle	ardchoille: I mean to say tell me how to get documentation for kdevelop without using linux commands> any download??	09:34
CrocoJet	getting lot window with signal 11	09:34
CrocoJet	about:plugins show that is ok, but flash do not run	09:34
james296	anyway how can I use that menu?	09:34
ardchoille	james296: Right click the panel, choose Add applet to panel, find the applet and add it	09:36
ardchoille	apparle: I'm a cli type person, I don't know much about how to do things in gui	09:36
james296	AHHH SWEET	09:37
james296	that worked	09:37
jpatrick	apparle: installing -doc packages ought to do it	09:37
stdin	apparle: on linux one would install kdevelop-doc, but if not then go to kdevelop.org	09:38
ardchoille	jpatrick: I should have thought of that :)	09:38
james296	and what is everyones opinion on the KBFX menu?	09:38
CrocoJet	why install process always stop at 57% (bar progress) ?	09:40
jpatrick	james296: I personally don't like it	09:40
jpatrick	CrocoJet: it's installing the kernel at that point, iirc	09:40
CrocoJet	no, because appear one window with error and I can click "OK" button	09:41
james296	well I need to get to bed now bye	09:41
factorx	I have a problem getting flash to work. Because flashplugin-nonfree has wrong MD5 sums again I installed it manually by untaring the package and copying libflashplayer.so to my browsers plugin directories. But now this is what I get: http://s3.directupload.net/images/071206/uekxdbl6.png	09:42
CrocoJet	factorx, I got same problem here	09:42
factorx	and no solution yet, I guess?	09:42
CrocoJet	beginner here in Kubuntu ... was Fedora user	09:43
CrocoJet	no idea	09:43
ActionParsnip	CrocoJet: did you restart your browser?	09:43
jpatrick	factorx: I think a fix has been uploade	09:43
CrocoJet	yes	09:43
jpatrick	-d*	09:43
ActionParsnip	CrocoJet: do other sites work ok?	09:43
CrocoJet	I did, ActionParsnip	09:44
factorx	jpatrick: where?	09:44
CrocoJet	is my 5 re-install of KUBUNTU .. and edit source-list to change server	09:44
CrocoJet	br.archive to archive	09:44
jpatrick	factorx: to hardy at least, might end up in gutsy-updates, dunno	09:44
jpatrick	CrocoJet: have you do "sudo apt-get update"	09:45
jpatrick	done, ?	09:45
factorx	jpatrick: I dont think so because flashplugin-nonfree is just a metapackage that downloads the plugin from the official adobe site.	09:45
CrocoJet	jpatrick, yes, this update came automatic from adept	09:45
jpatrick	factorx: from changelog: "New upstream release 9,0,115,0 : md5sums in postinst updated"	09:46
ardchoille	CrocoJet: No, he meant that once you edit your sources list, you have to update the sources so the changes in the list can be had	09:46
CrocoJet	ardchoille, yes I did	09:46
ardchoille	ok	09:47
factorx	jpatrick: that does not solve my problem, the only thing thats changed with that update, is, that I dont have to untar the file manually	09:47
CrocoJet	I did edit after install of cd-rom ... reboot and adept made update process ... 171Mb downloads	09:47
CrocoJet	I cant understand why I did one upgrade process .. because was installing kubuntu from zero, not from old version	09:48
CrocoJet	big mess .. install of kubuntu	09:49
CrocoJet	i solve problem with these error package install using "dpkg --configure -a"	09:50
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get distupgrade	09:51
ardchoille	CrocoJet: Care to pastebin your sources.list file so we can try and help?	09:51
ardchoille	!pastebin	09:51
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	09:51
CrocoJet	backtrace do not get information when nspluginviwer failed	09:51
ardchoille	ActionParsnip: Why are you telling me?	09:51
CrocoJet	Aranel, ok	09:51
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: i thought you said ok to the comment about updating sources.list	09:52
ardchoille	Oh, no, I was acknowledging CrocoJet	09:52
ActionParsnip	ardchoille: ok man nm :)	09:52
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CrocoJet	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47077/ (source-list)	09:54
ardchoille	CrocoJet: The only thing I can see is backports. You do realise that backports is a "use at your own risk" repo, right?	09:56
CrocoJet	yes I saw, but I did not make any install from there	09:56
CrocoJet	(program)	09:56
ardchoille	Ah, ok	09:56
jpatrick	CrocoJet: if you update you do	09:56
ardchoille	Ah, good catch jpatrick	09:56
* jpatrick is a backporter		09:57
CrocoJet	ok, I will make new install of kubuntu .. without this backport active	09:57
factorx	Ok I found out that the flashplugin actually works in firefox, but in opera it does not. any ideas?	09:57
CrocoJet	lets go .. brb in 30 min	09:57
jpatrick	CrocoJet: good luck	09:57
ardchoille	jpatrick: I'd love to use backports, but I don't think I'm smart enough to figure out how to solve the problems it caused me in the past yet.	09:58
jpatrick	ardchoille: funny thing is... I hardly have most of the problems others have..	09:58
ardchoille	jpatrick: Well, you're a backporter, you can head the problems off before they become problems I think	09:59
jpatrick	ardchoille: nah, I just request backports for kde packages that take my fancy	10:00
jpatrick	like, right now, I'm doing tork	10:03
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apparle	I am able to see a large amount of documentation for KDevelop but I want it to be avialable offline. How to get it	10:20
jpatrick	apparle: install kdevelop-doc	10:21
kipseron	why after i enter to the cdrom the live cd of kubuntu and click on start and install its open a terminal called busybox	10:22
kipseron	?	10:22
apparle	jpatrick: I did that. But I didnt get anything	10:22
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kipseron	how i can continue	10:22
ardchoille	apparle: it's probably in /usr/share/docs/kdevelop	10:22
apparle	ardchoille: I have seen all the files that the package contains. I contains some .png files which are not at all usefull	10:23
kipseron	someone can help me	10:25
mneisen	kipseron: maybe?!	10:25
apparle	kipseron: what	10:25
kipseron	i click on install in the live cd	10:25
kipseron	and its open terminal	10:25
kipseron	busybox	10:25
kipseron	how i can continue the install	10:26
mneisen	i dont think that should happen.	10:26
kipseron	but its happend	10:26
mneisen	if you click on the desktop icon for the install,	10:26
kipseron	no	10:26
mneisen	a graphical installation tool should run.	10:26
kipseron	i enter the live cd	10:26
kipseron	and click on start or install	10:26
mneisen	so you are running Windows right now?	10:26
kipseron	and the terminal busybox is open	10:26
kipseron	yes	10:26
mneisen	well, i would suggest you shutdown your computer and reboot using the live cd.	10:27
kipseron	i do it	10:27
kipseron	i reboot and start the live cd	10:27
mneisen	the graphical install tool can resize your windows partitions in the unlikely case you want to keep it.	10:27
mneisen	:-D	10:27
kipseron	and click on start or install	10:27
kipseron	and the terminal is up	10:27
mneisen	right.	10:27
kipseron	you dont understand	10:27
mneisen	that may be the case ... :-D	10:27
kipseron	i enter the cd	10:27
ardchoille	apparle: /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdevelop	10:27
mneisen	at boot time?	10:27
kipseron	the live cd	10:27
kipseron	yes	10:28
kipseron	its open a menu	10:28
kipseron	i click on the one option	10:28
kipseron	start or install	10:28
kipseron	and the terminal is open	10:28
mneisen	i do not think you can "click" at this time.	10:28
kipseron	the system dont show up	10:28
kipseron	i can	10:28
mneisen	do you mean "select"?	10:28
kipseron	yes	10:28
mneisen	and than, the boot hangs?	10:28
mneisen	than=then	10:28
kipseron	the system dont show	10:28
kipseron	only	10:29
kipseron	the busybox terminal	10:29
mneisen	ok.	10:29
mneisen	tough one.	10:29
mneisen	you might have incompatible hardware.	10:29
kipseron	no	10:29
kipseron	ubuntu 7.04	10:29
kipseron	work very well	10:29
mneisen	sometimes it happens that the ISO images are defective.	10:29
mneisen	Did you burn your CD on your pwn?	10:30
kipseron	yes	10:30
mneisen	well, excuse for asking that: Did you use data mode?	10:30
mneisen	forget that.	10:30
mneisen	you see grub.	10:30
mneisen	so, you did burn it alright.	10:30
kipseron	so what the problem	10:31
mneisen	well, my suggestion is: re-download the ISO image, check the md5sum, and then burn it to a new medium.	10:31
mneisen	happened to me once.	10:31
kipseron	i check the md5sum	10:31
kipseron	before i burn it	10:31
kipseron	but i try againg	10:31
kipseron	again	10:31
kipseron	who know	10:31
mneisen	yes, thats why I said "burn to a different/new medium."	10:31
mneisen	good luck.	10:32
kipseron	thanks	10:32
mneisen	your welcome.	10:34
deeploy	hi	10:34
deeploy	who are you ?	10:34
bazhang	deeploy: do you have a support question?	10:35
deeploy	support question ?	10:35
bazhang	deeploy: this is a support channel	10:35
deeploy	yeah.. first are you a bot XD	10:36
deeploy	?	10:36
deeploy	and is there anybody speaking french here :s ?	10:37
bazhang	!fr \| deeploy	10:37
ubotu	deeploy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	10:37
deeploy	mais merde ^^ je pige que dalle	10:38
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ardchoille	!language \| deeploy	10:39
ubotu	deeploy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	10:39
deeploy	first, I gotta know how it works -_-	10:40
deeploy	I'm talking to a bot ...	10:40
deeploy	-_-	10:40
Jucato	you aren't	10:40
Jucato	now behave	10:40
deeploy	behave. .. you must be kidding ^^ it's the first time I'm here, and I'm feeling lost like if I was born 10 secondes ago	10:41
deeploy	it's scary :p	10:41
ardchoille	deeploy: Then post your support question in the form that is suitable for this channel.	10:41
Kohlrabi	WELCOME TO TAH INTAWEB!	10:41
bazhang	deeploy: perhaps you should join #kubuntu-offtopic	10:41
Kohlrabi	scnr	10:41
Jucato	no caps please Kohlrabi	10:42
deeploy	I need to fill a formular or something to join you guys ?	10:42
Jucato	deeploy: the French Ubuntu and Kubuntu users can be found at #ubuntu-fr and #kubuntu-fr	10:42
Kohlrabi	deeploy: just ask away if you need support	10:42
Kohlrabi	If you're lucky someone is here who can answer it	10:42
Jucato	just click on the name of the channel or type /j #kubuntu-fr	10:43
Jucato	(or the name of the channel)	10:43
deeploy	ok	10:43
frinuxfr	hi	10:43
deeploy	hello	10:43
deeploy	^^	10:43
apparle_	how do i get to use m nick apparle back	10:47
Jucato	!ghost	10:48
ubotu	On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>	10:48
apparle_	ghost apparle darkmark	10:49
Jucato	better change your password apparle_	10:50
Jucato	and it only works if you put "/msg nickserv" before that	10:50
ninjagambit	ok i just installed kubuntu but when i did update it said: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.	10:53
apparle	from where do i get the documentation for kdevelop	10:53
ninjagambit	any ideas what to do now	10:53
ninjagambit	?	10:53
jpatrick	ninjagambit: try: "sudo apt-get install -f" in the konsole	10:56
ninjagambit	can you explain a little about what that will do	10:57
ninjagambit	just so i can learn a little from this	10:57
ninjagambit	plz	10:57
zaki_10	hi	10:59
poison--	!sql	11:02
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sql - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	11:02
poison--	:(	11:02
poison--	mornin guys	11:02
apparle	anybody here uses Kdevelp	11:03
ninjagambit	it says	11:04
ninjagambit	wait can i post 15 lines	11:05
apparle	KDevelop!	11:05
apparle	!KDevelop	11:06
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	11:06
sigma	does anyone know how to use xrandr to activate the tv out on the xorg radeon driver?	11:07
spiritz	sigma: you can active it just like a regular 2nd screen	11:09
spiritz	there's a swift kmdr for that. Hold on.	11:10
spiritz	Check this out : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/xramdr?content=70521	11:10
sigma	spiritz: but how? i have tried everything but xrandr always says the tv out is disconnected even when its connected	11:10
spiritz	sigma: I'm not sure how to do that.	11:12
spiritz	sigma: you may want to try out options in your xorg.conf to force the output to tv-out.	11:12
jpatrick	!pastebin > ninjagambit	11:13
frojnd	how can I find a file name called: John zappa.mp3 ?	11:13
ninjagambit	thanks	11:13
kipseron	find / -name \|zappa.mp3	11:13
ninjagambit	but i think that worked	11:13
jpatrick	:)	11:14
ninjagambit	i selected y	11:14
stuffcorpse	hello, i'm getting 'malformed url trash:/' from kicker applet. my default file manager is dolphin. can anyone help me with solving this?	11:14
ninjagambit	but also i installed gutsy but after update it asked if i wanted to upgrade to new version	11:14
apparle	how to get security updates	11:15
jpatrick	apparle: add the gutsy-security line to sources.list	11:15
ninjagambit	what would it upgrade to	11:16
jpatrick	ninjagambit: sorry, dunno	11:16
ninjagambit	i didnt want to click on it yet but how do you get the update manager back up	11:17
sigma	spritz: that force tv out is what i have been trying to do but what do i add to the xorg.conf to force the tv out?	11:17
FlashWolf	'morning guys :)	11:19
FlashWolf	how do i run xarals here?	11:20
FlashWolf	*xaralx	11:20
sigma	ok i downloaded a kommander script but how do i run it?	11:21
CrocoJet	back !!	11:23
jpatrick	CrocoJet: how'd it go?	11:23
CrocoJet	and flash plugin do not works in konqueror	11:23
stuffcorpse	i solved it nevermind	11:23
sigma	CrocoJet: use firefox it works there	11:24
CrocoJet	oh ok	11:24
jpatrick	CrocoJet: you have to rescan for plugins in the config	11:24
CrocoJet	jpatrick, ok, but about:plugins its show like installed	11:25
CrocoJet	re-scanned .. let me test	11:25
jpatrick	odd	11:25
CrocoJet	no success	11:26
CrocoJet	when I try to close window konqueror	11:26
CrocoJet	signal 11 (sigsegv)	11:27
FlashWolf	does someone here have xara?	11:27
sigma	i downloaded a kommander script from www.kde-apps.org, how do i run it?	11:27
ere4si	sigma: what is the file ext?	11:28
sigma	ere4si: its .kmdr	11:28
sigma	ere4si: i got it from here - http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/xramdr?content=70521	11:29
ere4si	sigma: is there an install script - I'm not familiar with that?	11:30
DarkFoxDK	hi, im getting this strange graphics glitch on my compaq armada e500, when i log in there is a black box in the top-left corner about 64x64px, it disappears if i open Konsole and type something then delete it.. it seems..	11:32
sigma	ere4si: nope its just that one script	11:33
ere4si	sigma: does double clicking it work?	11:33
sigma	nope that just opens it in a text editor	11:34
CrocoJet	exist "ubuntu Restrited Extras" for kubuntu ?	11:36
ere4si	sigma: close the file then right click - choose properties then permissions - check executable then close and open terminal and run with the command - /path/to/file	11:36
amit	not able to play mp3 in amarok..installed gutsy ..what to do?	11:36
CrocoJet	I heard that exist in ubuntu one script that make install flash, java, etc	11:38
DarkFoxDK	automatix2 or easyubuntu	11:38
ere4si	or enable all repositories in synaptic	11:38
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amit	ere4si: how to get mp3 support in amarok	11:40
ere4si	first - open synaptic package manager from the menu - yes?	11:40
FlashWolf	amit: sudo apt-get upgrade	11:40
sigma	ere4si: ok i marked it an executable, what do i type in the command line to run it?	11:41
amit	FlashWolf: okay..thanks..will do that..	11:41
amit	FlashWolf: can you tell me what extra repositories are to be added in /etc/apt/sources.lst?	11:41
FlashWolf	amit: just enable the default repos	11:41
ere4si	sigma: the path to the file - e.g. /home/you/file	11:41
poison--	<CrocoJet, yes there is	11:42
amit	FlashWolf: stopped using debian a few years ago man..so forgot half of it.. well..what about the special multimedia repos?	11:42
poison--	go to "add/remove programs" and search for "kubuntu"	11:42
ere4si	amit: uncomment multiverse and universe	11:42
FlashWolf	amit: are u using gutsy or feisty	11:42
FlashWolf	?	11:43
amit	FlashWolf: gutsy	11:43
FlashWolf	so, disable all 3rd party repos and enable the default	11:44
sigma	ok that worked but the program ran a error	11:44
FlashWolf	and run that cmd	11:44
MidMark	sigma: you need kommander to use .kmdr	11:44
CrocoJet	poison--, do I need active some special repository for get this command or program called "ubuntu Restrited Extras"	11:44
ere4si	sigma: the error?	11:44
sigma	MidMark: does that hav to be installed seperately?	11:45
poison--	no	11:45
MidMark	you find under adept	11:45
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MidMark	after installed you can double click on any .kmdr file	11:45
poison--	just pay attention to the instalation, u need to accept some java stuff	11:45
sigma	ere4si: /home/sigma/Desktop/xrandr.kmdr: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<'	11:45
amit	FlashWolf: I was thinking of using Adept... is it as good as synaptic?	11:45
FlashWolf	amit: sicerely, a rather synaptic. i disabled adept here	11:46
FlashWolf	sudo apt-get install synaptic	11:46
MidMark	sigma: here it works that file, install kommander :)	11:46
ere4si	sigma: the script is prob wrong for your install - others here have relavant comments for that - I'd need to see the script	11:46
MidMark	the script works under Gutsy ;)	11:47
ere4si	sigma: do you have kommander?	11:47
sigma	ere4si: nope downloading it now!	11:47
ere4si	k	11:47
sigma	MidMark: are you using gutsy?	11:47
MidMark	yes I have said	11:47
amit	FlashWolf: ubuntu doesn't use aptitude by default does it? cuz the debian guys are recommending aptitude these days	11:48
MidMark	install kommander!	11:48
FlashWolf	amit: ya, u can use aptitude too	11:48
FlashWolf	but i dont knoe what is the defalut	11:49
FlashWolf	*default	11:49
MidMark	sigma: you tried to launch as normal bash script but it isn't, so why that error	11:49
amit	FlashWolf: Kubuntu Gutsy is pretty buggy...	11:50
sigma	it works:) thanks MidMark and ere4si. just hope it works on my laptop	11:50
FlashWolf	amit: i dont think so	11:50
ere4si	well done!	11:50
FlashWolf	i'm using and i'm liking it	11:51
sigma	amit: i find it more stable than Feisty with one huge load of bug fixes!	11:51
FlashWolf	just some little bugs found so far	11:51
ere4si	!aptitude	11:51
ubotu	aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide	11:51
sigma	ok lemme go try it, i shall report back	11:51
ere4si	k	11:51
amit	sigma: feisty was that bad..eh? FlashWolf yeah agreed nothing prominent...except that virtual terminals thing	11:52
amit	hey guys..is it safe to uninstall adept?	11:53
FlashWolf	amit: just disable it	11:53
amit	FlashWolf: disable as in?	11:53
FlashWolf	or u can unninstall it and update your system via aptitude/apt-get upgrade	11:53
sigma	amit: na not really, i ordered the ubuntu cd first, then heard about kubuntu. for some reason when i got the kubuntu disk i had to re-format the pc about 5 times before it worked properly	11:53
CrocoJet	do I need uncomment backport to get "kubuntu Restrited Extras" ?	12:02
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sigma	MidMark and ere4si, are u guys still there? i have a slight problem	12:04
CrocoJet	help .. I need somebody help ...	12:05
Kohlrabi	... not just anybody sings	12:05
CrocoJet	lol	12:05
MidMark	!ask	12:05
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	12:05
CrocoJet	how can I get "kubuntu-restricted-extras" from terminal ?	12:06
CrocoJet	famous meta-package	12:06
MidMark	why terminal?	12:06
ere4si	sigma: ?	12:06
CrocoJet	I want make install flash, java ... etc	12:06
CrocoJet	not problem for me .. via terminal	12:07
CrocoJet	but here "kubuntu-restricted-extras" is not avail	12:07
MidMark	here yes, so probably you have to enable universe	12:07
MidMark	!universe	12:07
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	12:07
CrocoJet	do I need uncomment some repository ?	12:07
MidMark	sorru it's in multiverse	12:07
MidMark	!multiverse	12:07
CrocoJet	MidMark, let me see	12:08
Kohlrabi	CrocoJet: add multiverse to your sources.list	12:08
Kohlrabi	i.e. uncomment it	12:08
Kohlrabi	then update & install	12:08
MidMark	or just select it under adept	12:08
MidMark	easier solution	12:08
Kohlrabi	mhja	12:08
sigma	ere4si: i got the program on my laptop, have it connected to the tv, but when i try add the svideo as the 2nd monitor (mirror) nothing happens, but i change the resolution of the laptops lcd that changes but the svideo soesn't activate	12:09
Kohlrabi	he wanted to use the terminal ;P	12:09
sigma	doesn't active	12:09
CrocoJet	add multiverse .. but how ?	12:09
ere4si	sigma: you're vid card needs the right driver it seems	12:09
MidMark	CrocoJet: use adept! -> manage repositaries	12:09
CrocoJet	let me see	12:10
ere4si	!adept	12:10
ubotu	adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto	12:10
ere4si	sigma: lappy vid card is...?	12:11
sigma	ere4si: i have a ati radeon 9000 mobility using the xorg driver - theres no other driver i can use and it was said that driver supported tv out but you have to force detection in the xorg.conf - how do i do that?	12:11
sigma	ere4si: look above	12:11
ere4si	k	12:11
CrocoJet	damn .. no multiverse option to active	12:11
CrocoJet	ops sorry	12:11
CrocoJet	is active multiverse	12:12
CrocoJet	but I cant find "kubuntu-restricted-extras"	12:12
sigma	crocojet: just get it from packages.ubuntu.com	12:12
CrocoJet	got it .. finally !!! Ufa !	12:13
sigma	ere4si: all the sites i went to say you have to force tv out detection in xorg.conf but none say how to do it	12:13
ere4si	sigma: found a post on the forums	12:13
CrocoJet	installing now	12:13
sigma	ere4si: whats the link?	12:13
ere4si	sigma: here - http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606540	12:15
CrocoJet	adept use different refresh repository than apt-get .. and aptitude	12:15
CrocoJet	Evil !!! like say Mr. Bush !	12:15
CrocoJet	...why everything is Evil in the world ?	12:15
CrocoJet	lol	12:15
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CrocoJet	is installing .. pretty smooth now .. :)	12:17
CrocoJet	thanks .. for all .. help	12:17
CrocoJet	beginners are pain in the a**	12:18
sigma	ere4si: but that doesn't say how to force tv detection in xorg - its more about attaching a 2nd monitor to the laptop - i can already do that with no hassles	12:18
ere4si	k	12:18
MidMark	sigma: have you tried booting with the cable inserted?	12:21
ere4si	sigma: the bottom comment links a patch that might work??? - http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-239347.html	12:22
Kohlrabi	sigma: maybe that helps?: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-October/029821.html	12:22
Kohlrabi	Option "TVDACLoadDetect" "TRUE"	12:22
Kohlrabi	hmm	12:22
Kohlrabi	it says ATI	12:22
Kohlrabi	:(	12:22
_philipp	Hi all, what do u think of my idea to improve the usability of the trash bin: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153492	12:24
Kohlrabi	or that: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/NVidia/TV-OUT	12:24
sigma	MidMark: yup tried that - still said it was disconnected, when i tried my external vga port just now that worked perfectly	12:25
sigma	Kohlrabi and ere4si: thanks for the links - im checking them out now	12:26
Kohlrabi	np	12:26
sigma	Kohlrabi: thats the command i wanted ! let me try it out	12:27
Kohlrabi	great :)	12:28
Kohlrabi	For a moment I thought you mentioned nVidida back then, but OK	12:28
X314	okay. i have a 16x burner.. that used to come up to around 12x.. now that I have switched the computer to Kubuntu. it only goes up to around 1.5x with k3b. any ideas?	12:30
sigma	lol no its a ATI, i have a Nvidia in my desktop	12:30
X314	ah. and its 16x dvd burning.	12:30
sigma	X314: ouch what make?	12:30
X314	plextron I think	12:30
X314	Plextor*	12:30
Kohlrabi	Plextor is great :D	12:30
sigma	X314: neva heard of it, what discs are you using?	12:31
Kohlrabi	x314: do you dtermine speed automatically?	12:31
Kohlrabi	maybe you can set the speed manually	12:31
X314	TDK DVD-R ffp	12:31
Kohlrabi	or the media are bad, hm	12:31
sigma	X314: try a Verbatim 16x DVD	12:32
X314	Kohlrabi: well.. tryed both.. but the software buffer is full. but the device buffer goes down.	12:32
Kohlrabi	X314: ok, I have a plextor myself, though I never burned with kubuntu	12:32
X314	sigma: only have an old 4x DVD+RW verbatim	12:33
Kohlrabi	And I remember having issues with some media, though I don't remember if it were TDK's	12:33
X314	Kohlrabi: tdk's always worked great for me	12:33
Kohlrabi	X314: ok :)	12:33
Kohlrabi	sigma: any luck with TV yet?	12:34
sigma	Kohlrabi and ere4si and MidMark: even after that addition to my Xorg.conf it still says the s-video is disconnected	12:35
sigma	i don't understand why it can see it but not use it?	12:35
sigma	ok hang on that website says it needs the ati driver and im using the "radeon" one, does that make a difference?	12:36
Kohlrabi	sigma: maybe that stuff form the wikibooks-link about nvidia/TV-out is also valid for ATI	12:36
Kohlrabi	sigma: maybe try fglrx	12:36
Kohlrabi	sigma: though fglrx will break compiz	12:36
Kohlrabi	(for now)	12:36
Kohlrabi	i.e. compiz won't work with fglrx	12:37
Kohlrabi	!ati	12:37
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	12:37
Kohlrabi	sigma?	12:38
sigma	Kohlrabi: fglrx no longer supports my card	12:39
mikkael	if i lock my screen there are gl snowflakes in the background. where can i disable it ?	12:39
ere4si	sigma: it's a long standing prob for that card - still searching	12:39
Kohlrabi	sigma: too bad :(	12:39
Kohlrabi	sigma: got a 8*** AIW?	12:40
Kohlrabi	or something?	12:40
sigma	oh my gosh i have a image on the tv:)	12:41
X314	so I'm guessing I will have to live with it beeing slow for now?	12:42
ere4si	sigma: how/	12:43
ere4si	*?	12:43
sigma	ere4si and Kohlrabi: i used the ati-xorg driver and that outputed a image on the tv but its rather garbled - how do i make it clear? it also can't play video's - can i make it do that somehow?	12:43
Kohlrabi	sigma: I don't know, sorry	12:44
ere4si	sigma: found this - http://dir.filewatcher.com/-/?q=tv+out	12:44
Kohlrabi	great find :D	12:44
sigma	sorry tried that one! it doesn't work with my chip	12:46
sigma	well i guess this was the first attempt by the xorg team to get it working so it can only get better from here on in	12:46
motopicco85	hi, when I install kubuntu 7.10 I lose the start screen with the word "kubuntu" and under this word the bar of advancement..in Kubuntu 7.04 I had it..can you help me to have it in Gutsy?	12:47
ere4si	sigma: being an older card you might be better with 6.04 lts version of the k/ubuntu's ?	12:49
sigma	ere4si: but thats so buggy compared to gutsy! is it possible to compile that fglrx driver for gutsy? i can get the driver from ati.com	12:50
Kohlrabi	sigma: what's your card's model?	12:51
ere4si	sigma: I've never tried...	12:51
ere4si	no offence - just curious - isn't kohlrabi a salad?	12:52
llutz	ere4si: kind of cabbage	12:52
ere4si	knew it was healthy some way :)	12:53
Kohlrabi	I am!	12:53
ere4si	^_^	12:53
Kohlrabi	sigma: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/previous/linux-r-8-28-8.html try installing this driver	12:54
sigma	kohlrabi: its a ati mobility radeon 9000	12:54
Kohlrabi	sigma: it's the last one supporting R200-cards	12:55
sigma	yup thats the last one that supports my card	12:55
Kohlrabi	ok, you know :p	12:55
sigma	but can you help - which file on that page do i download and how do i install it? those instructions confuse me	12:55
atomicnation	hello	12:56
atomicnation	i need help with my kubuntu	12:56
Kohlrabi	sigma: read https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.28.8-inst.html first	12:56
atomicnation	somebody has an correct souces.list?	12:56
Kohlrabi	sigma: and it should be best to load https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run I think	12:57
_nix_	hello everybody.. anyone know what I need to install to get ktorrent's web-gui working? It says php-executable not found in path..	12:57
ere4si	sigma: that link is for a rpm which is not a kubuntu package...	12:58
sigma	ok il give that a shot when my repo dvd's arrive. however il hav 2find sumwer to download that file	12:58
Kohlrabi	sigma: I never really installed the drivers that way, so I don't know how it works exactly	12:58
sigma	na the .run packages work in kubuntu - alot of games come packaged like that	12:59
Kohlrabi	yep	12:59
Kohlrabi	I think UT-linux and the like	12:59
sigma	do you know how i can stop kwrite and kate from creating those annoying backup files everytime i save a file?	13:00
SSJ_GZ	sigma: Configure Editor -> Open/ Save -> Backup on Save -> Uncheck local files	13:02
Jucato	sigma: Settings -> Configure Editor (in KWrite) or Settings -> Configure Kate -> Editor -> Open/Save	13:02
SSJ_GZ	Jucato: :p	13:02
Jucato	mine was more complete :P	13:02
* Jucato sulks in the corner		13:02
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ere4si	sigma: it is when you change a file - but no... :)	13:03
SSJ_GZ	Hehe :)	13:04
sigma	Jucato: thanks that solved it!	13:04
Bandit12	what would you guys recommend for an ftp server on Kubuntu	13:04
llutz	anyone using a Nvidia Quadro NVS 285 and had any trouble with it? does glx/dri work with nvidia-glx?	13:05
llutz	Bandit12: vsftpd	13:05
Jucato	!ftpd	13:05
ubotu	FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP	13:05
Bandit12	ok lets narrow that down to something not to difficult for a beginner	13:07
llutz	Bandit12: still vsftpd, you'll have to read a lot anyway	13:07
XBehave	i want to listen to radio1 online is there an alternative to realplayer that will let me do this? (i can use the wmp stream but not catchup)	13:12
Kohlrabi	maybe mplayer can play it	13:12
Kohlrabi	well	13:12
Kohlrabi	let me rephrase: most probably mplayer can play it ;)	13:12
Lynoure	XBehave: and there is also RealPlayer 10, if you can deal with closed source stuff	13:14
Bandit12	XBehave i have Radio1 playing now on there own web player thingumybob	13:14
XBehave	thx ill try mplayer and then realplayer if i have to	13:16
XBehave	Bandit12: what are you using?	13:16
Bandit12	XBehave: It's there web based player www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/listen/ and click the listen to radio 1 now link this opens a new window with the RP and WM links but theres a button on the left called Play	13:18
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XBehave	but do you have RP or mplayer installed?	13:20
Bandit12	i have mplayer installed	13:20
XBehave	thx	13:22
jlarsson	Hi	13:22
jlarsson	i wonder if it is compis and xgl in the new kubunu 7.10 ?	13:23
jlarsson	pre installed	13:23
posingaspopular	jlarsson: no but you can active it	13:29
posingaspopular	!compiz \| jlarsson	13:29
ubotu	jlarsson: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	13:29
posingaspopular	afk	13:29
XBehave	thx it turned out i had mplayer installed but it was being overwritten by xine which couldnt do the streaming or the buttons. mplayer is fully functional no need to consider dirty RealPlayer (i hated it on windows stupid adware) :D	13:34
pfein	what do y'all use for adblock filters in konqueror?	13:41
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Jucato	Konqueror has a built-in adblock filter. and iirc Kubuntu puts in a default list in there	13:42
pfein	Jucato: yeah, I wanted to update it, it was missing some stuff	13:42
pfein	well, actually, I tried to import some lists from the AdBlockPlus site, & now it doesn't work at all...	13:43
pfein	hmm, filterset.g appears to work	13:44
pfein	whee, that was easy	13:44
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ubuntu_	ciaooo	13:59
ubuntu_	ho un super problema, chi mi può aiutare??	13:59
ere4si	!pg	13:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	13:59
ere4si	!pt	14:00
ubotu	Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	14:00
Jucato	ere4si: it was italian btw	14:01
ere4si	I'm illiterate :)	14:01
Jucato	[21:58] --> ubuntu_ has joined this channel (n=ubuntu@host210-169-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it). <--- the .it is a big clue :)	14:03
sam_	hi.. i woud like to monitor my internet usage i have a ADSL router..	14:05
mallize	can anyone tell me where to get the plugin SnowGlobe mentioned here http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/compiz-fusion-community-news-for-decemeber-5-2007-keep-those-plugins-coming/	14:11
* genii puts on another pot of coffee		14:14
ActionParsnip	hi all	14:19
ahmad	hey all	14:20
jembouge	hey all too	14:20
ahmad	please i have an emergency question	14:20
xstat	hello, has anyone installed kxdocker-1.1.4a on kubuntu gutsy???	14:20
ahmad	i just finished from installing kubuntu 7.10	14:20
ahmad	and i would like to mount my hdd drive	14:20
ahmad	how to ?!	14:20
ActionParsnip	ahmad: is it a usb hdd?	14:21
ActionParsnip	ahmad: or internal?	14:21
ahmad	ActionParsnip:internal	14:21
login_	OI	14:21
ActionParsnip	xstat: what issue are you having	14:21
ActionParsnip	ahmad: it should be automounted	14:21
ActionParsnip	ahmad: check /mnt and /media	14:22
ahmad	ActionParsnip: it wasn't	14:22
ahmad	ActionParsnip: i will give you the error message	14:22
ActionParsnip	ahmad: ok cool	14:22
ahmad	ActionParsnip: hold on please	14:22
xstat	actionparsnip, everything's ok, kxdocker opens and show the dock but i have a persistent problem in dragging icons to the dock... it says that Mouse Grabbing failed with "AlreadyGrabbed"	14:22
ahmad	ActionParsnip: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000	14:22
jembouge	lol I got the same pb	14:23
jembouge	with an external	14:23
ActionParsnip	ahmad: tried it as sudo	14:23
ActionParsnip	sudo mount ....	14:23
ahmad	ActionParsnip: sudo mount only ?! or there are any arguments ?	14:23
jembouge	that's probably bc your partition/disk is NTFS	14:23
jembouge	isn't it ahmad?	14:23
ActionParsnip	xstat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294511	14:24
ahmad	jembouge : my partitions are NTFS as you say	14:24
ActionParsnip	xstat: that may help	14:24
ahmad	:D	14:24
jembouge	actually you should have an icon for your drive in either /mnt or /media	14:25
jembouge	if you want your disk mounted, say in /mnt/new_disk	14:25
ahmad	i have .. but i would like to access the files in it	14:25
xstat	actionparsnip, ok, i'll check it, do you know if there is other way to add icons to kxdocker without dragging them??	14:25
jembouge	create a folder first (/mnt/new_disk)	14:26
ActionParsnip	xstat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294511&page=4	14:26
jembouge	then type in a command: sudo /dev/xxxxxx /mnt/new_disk	14:26
ahmad	and then ?!	14:26
jembouge	replace xxxx	14:26
ahmad	jembouge : and then ?!	14:26
jembouge	by the name of the device	14:26
jembouge	oops	14:26
jembouge	i forgot	14:26
jembouge	sudo mount /dev/xxxx /mnt/new_device	14:27
ahmad	forgot what !?	14:27
jembouge	the "mount" command	14:27
ActionParsnip	xstat: you could try renaming the profile part of your profile for kxdocker and rerun	14:27
ahmad	i tried it	14:27
ahmad	and it failes ... i assume it is my fault	14:27
jembouge	but ahmad, you should get the name of your device	14:27
jembouge	and replace the xxxx with it	14:27
jembouge	you can get it's name if you find the icon KDE shows	14:27
jembouge	probably in /media	14:28
ahmad	i cann't find any drives in /dev	14:28
ActionParsnip	ahmad: can you paste your fstab file	14:28
ahmad	i tried /media either	14:28
ahmad	and it was negative	14:28
xstat	actionparsnip, i've allready checked that page from ubuntu froums but couldn't get the problem solved, maybe i have to aproach it from other angle, not from kxdocker, maybe it's a xserver config problem	14:28
jembouge	ahmad: do what ActionParsnip is saying to get the name of the device :)	14:29
ActionParsnip	xstat: try running it as kdesu just to test	14:29
jembouge	should be a /dev/sdaX where X is a number	14:29
ahmad	how can i get the fstab file ... excuse me folks .. i am new to linux	14:30
jembouge	(I'm too :p )	14:30
ubuntu_	Iam trying to install Kubuntu but dont know what Mount point I need to set on my saving disk for movies etc. I have one ntfs with Windows XP, one / for kubuntu, one /home and one /swap. What do I need to set on the last partition for movies?	14:30
jembouge	but just go to media:/ and point the mouse on the disk that you want mounted, it will tell you something like "sdaX" somewhere in the tooltip	14:31
ActionParsnip	ubuntu_: set it to whatever you want, the mounting will be added to your fstab at install	14:31
ahmad	ActionParsnip: how can i get the fstab file ?!	14:31
ActionParsnip	ubotu: call it /movies if you want	14:31
jembouge	forget it	14:31
ActionParsnip	ahmad: /etc/fstab	14:31
ubuntu_	ooh I can do that ;)	14:31
tuxwulf_	What can I do about the live CD not starting up properly because "Can not open tty: job control not started"...?	14:31
xstat	actionparsnip, nothing happens, maybe it's the mouse configuration in xorg-conf that's causing the problem, it's set to ImPS/2, i have a Genius 2 button with scroll PS2 optical mouse, wich other driver could be set to make some test??	14:32
jembouge	(/etc/fstab)	14:32
jembouge	lol sorry you said it	14:32
ubuntu_	thanks for the help	14:33
ahmad	# /etc/fstab: static file system information.	14:33
ahmad	#	14:33
ahmad	# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>	14:33
ahmad	proc /proc proc defaults 0 0	14:33
ahmad	# /dev/sda8	14:33
ahmad	UUID=3c0f8d09-dcd6-4e6a-bb0d-b21f80d6f83a / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1	14:33
ahmad	# /dev/sda9	14:33
ahmad	UUID=2ac31a54-a2c3-42c7-a959-300c5963650f none swap sw 0 0	14:33
ahmad	/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0	14:33
ahmad	ActionParsnip: did that help !?	14:33
ActionParsnip	ahmad: yeah but use the paste site	14:34
Jucato	!pastebin	14:34
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	14:34
jembouge	I guess his partition isn't shown in the list	14:35
ahmad	ActionParsnip:what is paste site ?! i feel like idiottt :'(	14:35
jembouge	read above	14:35
jembouge	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/	14:35
jembouge	you don't have to feel this way, we all went through it :p	14:36
ActionParsnip	!pastebin \| ahmad	14:36
ubotu	ahmad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	14:36
ActionParsnip	ahmad: you paste in there then send us the link you get	14:36
ahmad	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47098/	14:36
ActionParsnip	xstat: can you find kxdocker_conf.xml	14:36
ahmad	ActionParsnip:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47098/	14:37
ActionParsnip	ahmad: thats how you do it. we can now analse your fstab file	14:37
ubuntu	how do I set a swap to a partion in the installation? I trayied to set "mount point" to /swap the the installation sayes that I havent chose a swap and have to go back.	14:38
ahmad	ActionParsnip: good to know such good information !! :D	14:38
ActionParsnip	ubuntu: you need to set the type as linuxswap	14:38
xstat	actionparsnip. yes, i have two of them one in /usr/share/apps/kxdocker and the other one it my home folder under .kde directory, you think the problem might be in the config file??	14:39
ubuntu	moint point: /linuxswap ?	14:39
ActionParsnip	ubotu: you need to change the filesystem type to linuxswap	14:39
ubuntu	aha	14:40
ubuntu	thanks again	14:40
ActionParsnip	xstat: kill kxdocker and rename the one in .kde so it is backed up	14:40
ActionParsnip	xstat: then rerun	14:40
ActionParsnip	xstat: let us know how it goes	14:40
pteague_work	ok, the eclipse package dependency seems completely nuts... especially considering i downloaded eclipse for linux off their site & have installed a bunch of tools & haven't had any issues... now, attempting to install eclipse via aptitude, it wants to download 72 packages (161mb)... ?	14:41
ActionParsnip	!eclipse	14:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	14:42
tko_	hi	14:42
ActionParsnip	pteague_work: if apt says you need it, you need it	14:42
ActionParsnip	hi tko_	14:42
ahmad	ActionParsnip: so what did you get ?	14:42
pteague_work	why do i need ant & junit for eclipse? the only reason i need those is if i'm doing java development	14:43
llutz	pteague_work: stop aptitude from installing recommends	14:43
ActionParsnip	ahmad: does your drive pick up in the bios at power on?	14:43
pteague_work	ah, gotcha	14:43
Jucato	pteague_work: aptitude installs recommends by default. use -R to stop that	14:43
ActionParsnip	ahmad: have you just taken the drive out of another pc and stuck it in your system	14:44
Jucato	or use apt-get (which doesn't install recommends by default)	14:44
tko_	Folks,i have an question regarding installing soundcard on my notebook	14:44
ahmad	ActionParsnip: i just installed this system after i removed mandriva .. and my system is latpop .. so i didn't stuck the hdd to it	14:45
traveller77	hi, could you someone clarify this "developers plan on implementing a new strategy which will allow Kubuntu to catch-up with some of the functionality of Ubuntu"	14:45
TheNo1Yeti	tko: just ask the question. No need for a preface. :)	14:45
traveller77	appeared on the kubuntu.org, regarding the herdy version	14:45
xstat	actionparsnip, i think it uses the one in /usr/share, i renamed it and rerun and asked for the config file, i pressed cancel and the same problem again	14:45
ahmad	ActionParsnip: would you like me to reboot to check if the drive is picked in start up or not ?!	14:45
ActionParsnip	ahmad: ok so you are on a laptop with an internal hardrive that boots ok an you are trying to mount a usb hard drive	14:45
traveller77	is ubuntu more funnctional than kubuntu and in what way?	14:45
ActionParsnip	ahmad: is that right]	14:45
xstat	actionparsnip: checking the xonfig file i see the only icon set in the dock, maybe i could add some other in the config file to see if apears	14:46
tko_	lol,thanks	14:46
tko_	i have an Lenovo 3000 n100, i know that there many tutorials in the net	14:46
Bandit12	with sharing folders is there away that when you share 1 folder the folders within that get shared aswell?	14:46
ahmad	ActionParsnip: nooo .. i already can't read my internal hdd .. i read its name and can't access its contetns :(	14:46
ActionParsnip	ahmad: so you are running from the live cd?	14:46
xstat	actionparsnip: do you have installed kxdocker on youyr system?? if do could you send me your config file to see how kxdocker saves icon data in config file?	14:47
ahmad	no .. from hdd	14:47
ahmad	i installed the kubuntu itself from the alternate CD	14:47
ActionParsnip	xstat: I dont have it installed. I'd have figured renaming the config file would foce a fresh one to be created	14:47
TheNo1Yeti	Bandit12: If you are talking about changing the folder permissions to be readable by other users than just you, you can do a recursive change. -R from a command line.	14:47
ActionParsnip	ahmad: accept my chat offer	14:48
Bandit12	i have a music folder and when i put new stuff in i wanted that available across my home network automatically.	14:49
xstat	actionparsnip: yes, but the problem reappears, i really don't know where could be the problem at, but i know it can be solved, just don't know how :-S	14:49
pteague_work	ok, 29 new with 86.3mb is a bit more reasonable... still trying to install eclipse-source, junit & ant though :( ... hmm... i wonder if the 'eclipse' package is just a dependency package & really doesn't provide anything	14:49
ActionParsnip	xstat: try uninstalling then reinstalling	14:49
ahmad	i think i already accepted !!	14:50
ActionParsnip	ahmad: so you have installed kubuntu to a laptop with a single hard drive	14:50
ActionParsnip	ahmad: where is the other drive if it is not usb	14:50
jembouge	Bandit12: I think if you're sharing with samba, then folders within your shared folder should be shared to	14:50
jembouge	it's recursive	14:50
xstat	actionparsnip, don't think the problem would get solved by that, i have installed it many times form sources now i'm using checkinstall to build and install it as a deb package to easely remove it	14:50
annemarie	where can i find network printer support for kubuntu?	14:51
ahmad	ActionParsnip: internal .. the HDD of the laptop !!	14:51
pteague_work	yep, looks like eclipse is just a bundle of dependencies... time to go dig	14:51
ActionParsnip	ahmad: so what is kubuntu installed to?	14:51
jembouge	ActionParsnip: ahmad probably mens a partition then	14:51
ActionParsnip	ahmad: the same drive you cannot read?	14:51
ahmad	ActionParsnip: yes	14:51
ActionParsnip	ahmad: ok do you have a seperate partition desired to store user data	14:52
jembouge	OMG, I hope for you that you didn't ...	14:52
ActionParsnip	xstat: have you tried kibadock?	14:53
ActionParsnip	jembouge: wassup?	14:53
ahmad	ActionParsnip: first i deleted the partition was holding the mantundiva from windows .. and then i installed the kubuntu over it - assumig that the setup will re-organize the partitions again as it likes - and then here i am	14:53
ahmad	ActionParsnip: i even can't installa any programs .. i don't know whassup !!	14:53
jembouge	I just wondered whether ahmad had "replaced" his ntfs partition by the linux one, yet wanted to keep it.	14:54
ActionParsnip	ok so you want to mount your windows partition?	14:54
ahmad	yes	14:54
ActionParsnip	ahmad: why didnt you say that then?	14:54
ahmad	because you did't ask what partition i want to mount !!	14:54
ActionParsnip	you were on about disks	14:55
ahmad	ActionParsnip: do you already know the solution ?!	14:55
ActionParsnip	ahmad: took ages to realise you were on a laptop	14:55
nosrednaekim	ActionParsnip: please be nice.	14:55
xstat	actionparsnip, yes i have installed it once, but i have solved many installation problems, i think this is the last to solve	14:55
ActionParsnip	ahmad: ok so you have a windows partiotion you would like to access from kubuntu	14:56
ahmad	ActionParsnip: i am on a laptop .. i have 1 hdd .. i have windows XP on separate partition .. and other 2 partitions .. i want to mount the 3 partitions	14:56
ActionParsnip	xstat: short of reinstalling and renaming the profiles i'm pretty stumped	14:56
ahmad	ActionParsnip: i wish it is clear by now !	14:56
ActionParsnip	xstat: sorry :(	14:56
ActionParsnip	ahmad: ok cool, gimme a sec	14:56
nosrednaekim	ahmad: probably easiest done by useing the mount config in systemsettings->advanced->disks and partitions	14:57
xstat	actionparsnip thank you anyway you had helped me a lot	14:57
ActionParsnip	ahmad: sudo fdisk -l	14:57
ActionParsnip	ahmad: this will show you which partition your windows is on as 1 will be ntfs	14:58
ActionParsnip	ahmad: this will help loads	14:58
ActionParsnip	http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows	14:58
nosrednaekim	ActionParsnip: mount config is a ton easier than all that CLI stuff.	14:58
ActionParsnip	nosrednaekim: fair point	14:58
ahmad	Question :: can i mount a NTFS from kubuntu !?	14:59
genii	nosrednaekim: Looks like you drove them off LOL	14:59
nosrednaekim	ahmad: yes	14:59
* genii puts on another pot of coffee		15:00
nosrednaekim	genii: mention GUIs and everyone scatters and goes to look at the pretty tool :D	15:00
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ahmad	it gived me error	15:00
nosrednaekim	ahmad: ehat did.	15:00
nosrednaekim	*what	15:00
jembouge	ahmad yes, you need one command line to do so	15:01
TheNo1Yeti	Wait, Linux has a gui?	15:01
ahmad	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47100/	15:01
jembouge	ahmad: and the name of the device you want to mount	15:01
dane	hi	15:01
ahmad	i tried it from the system settings	15:01
ahmad	the system seems to go unstable	15:01
kub^	hi, how do i release and renew my ip for dhcp (kubuntu gutsy)?	15:02
ahmad	i have also thin error when i try to close dolphin	15:02
ahmad	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47101/	15:02
ahmad	i don't know what is happening :'(	15:03
nosrednaekim	ahmad: unmount that ntfs drive	15:03
jembouge	me neither, this is really weird..	15:03
jembouge	so tell me, did you install kubuntu or are you just running from the cd?	15:04
nosrednaekim	kub^: "sudo dhclient <interface name>"	15:04
kub^	nosrednaekim thanks :)	15:04
jembouge	dane: hi, what's up?	15:05
pag	ahmad, " sudo chown ahmad:ahmad /home/ahmad/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml " should solve that dolphin bookmark issue	15:05
Jucato	ahmad: that's a known bug with kdesudo	15:05
Jucato	follow what pag said	15:05
Jucato	(and check if there are updates available because I think this has been fixed already)	15:06
nosrednaekim	ahmad: I see your problem, you uncleanly shut down windows while that drive was mounted. you need to boot windows to recover the journal and then shut-down cleanly.	15:06
ahmad	so what are the steps now ?!	15:07
Jucato	nosrednaekim: to which problem are you referring to?	15:07
nosrednaekim	ahmad: boot windows, then cleanly shut down	15:07
nosrednaekim	Jucato: his hard drive mount error	15:07
Jucato	ah ok	15:07
zvezdichko	Good thing I have finally a fast machine. Now I'd like to try KDE 4. But will there be a conflict between qts and skype?	15:07
Jucato	not the kdesudo/d3lphin error then :P	15:07
nosrednaekim	nah.... I stay clear of kdesudo errors :D	15:08
ahmad	ok .. meet you after 15 mins .. i didn't turn off windows since ages :D	15:08
F3000	!wifi	15:08
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	15:08
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carmen	v	15:23
Daisuke_Ido	w	15:23
ere4si	vdub	15:26
zen-xstat	hello people, i'm trying to get workin kxdocker on kubuntu gutsy, does anyone successfuly installed kxdocker??	15:34
BluesKaj	'Morning all : )	15:36
alesan	hey how do I caonfigure a raw pppoe connecton (not through a router, I ony have a modem) on gutsy?	15:36
alesan	DSL modem	15:36
nosrednaekim	alesan: probably Kppp can do it	15:36
* BluesKaj hands out hot coffees to all who need it		15:38
nosrednaekim	brrr.... yeah. its cold here	15:39
nosrednaekim	still around 23F	15:39
nosrednaekim	zvezdichko: sorry, didn't see your question.No, there will be no conflict	15:40
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BluesKaj	milder now , just slightly below freezing ...wife is pressuring me to put up the Christmas lights	15:40
nosrednaekim	zvezdichko: and I'd wait till the next RC, everything should be VERY usable then	15:40
zvezdichko	nosrednaekim: good thing ;) I only worry how I will have to remove KDE 4 when a new RC comes out	15:40
nosrednaekim	zvezdichko: if its from .deb packages souldn't be hard.	15:40
nosrednaekim	BluesKaj: heh..	15:41
nosrednaekim	zvezdichko: if its from svn/source, just recompile	15:42
BluesKaj	yeah, tried twice to get those kde4 instructions to work , but no dice .. obviously doing something wrong , but I can't be bothered to find out : )	15:42
nosrednaekim	BluesKaj: heh...	15:42
nosrednaekim	BluesKaj: its really not worth the work	15:43
BluesKaj	yeah. 3.5.8 works fine	15:43
BluesKaj	like you said , when it's deb'd then I'll do it	15:44
lorddarkpat	hello	15:46
BluesKaj	!hello \| lorddarkpat	15:46
nosrednaekim	hello lorddarkpat	15:46
ubotu	lorddarkpat: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	15:46
alesan	re	15:47
alesan	I have no idea how to configure a pppoe connection with kppp	15:47
nosrednaekim	!pppoe	15:48
ubotu	Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE	15:48
Jucato	I don't thnk kppp handles pppoe adsl	15:48
alesan	it seems it's dial up only	15:48
Jucato	yep	15:48
nosrednaekim	oh.. sorry :(	15:48
alesan	Jucato: ah ok :)	15:48
alesan	no problem	15:48
Jucato	nosrednaekim: no, that's the right link	15:48
nosrednaekim	thatlink should help though.	15:48
Jucato	kppp's the wrong app	15:48
nosrednaekim	Jucato: yeah, but I told him earilier that KPP coulddo it	15:48
Jucato	ah	15:49
sigma	why does the search feature in konqueror not work?	15:49
Jucato	aaaah	15:49
Jucato	what search feature?	15:49
alesan	ok so it is command line only	15:49
alesan	good	15:49
Jucato	alesan: yep	15:49
Jucato	pppoeconf	15:49
Jucato	er...sudo pppoeconf	15:49
alesan	I have to tell my girlfriend in europe how to setup the connection	15:50
BluesKaj	sigma, do you mean strigi or locate ?	15:50
alesan	she's now gone to buy a ethernet cable	15:50
Jucato	oh..	15:50
sigma	press ctrl+f in a konqueror window, that feature - whatever i type in it never finds anything	15:50
alesan	about me... you know, I feel like knetworkmanager sucks regarding wireless connections	15:50
alesan	now I cannot connect with any WPA network, only "free" ones	15:51
daz	High everyone. I'm seriously struggling to find a way to increase the amount of RAM Java allocates to my browser.	15:51
nosrednaekim	yeah, knetworkmangler has problems	15:51
alesan	any idea how to reset knetworkmanager or some other component?	15:51
daz	Can anyone help?	15:51
Jucato	sigma: while browsing web pages? yes sometimes it doesn't work. I don't know why. I think perhaps it has to do something with the web page itself	15:51
nosrednaekim	alesan: the cuases vary wildly.	15:51
alesan	any better wifi manager I can install? now I am connected with a ethernet cable	15:51
nosrednaekim	alesan: for wpa? yeah, there are a couple	15:52
* Jucato is lucky to be using only WEP at home... no problems there		15:52
denn	hi everyone	15:53
* nosrednaekim lives so far out in the middle of nowhere that he leaves it open		15:53
nosrednaekim	hi denn:	15:53
nosrednaekim	alesan: the names are escaping me ATM	15:53
sigma	Jucato: no while searching my hdd, im at a folder with files which start with the word alien, but if i open the find bar and type in alien then click find nothing happens - it don't find anything even though there are files with that word in the name there	15:53
Jucato	sigma: aaah that	15:53
Jucato	it uses regular expressions (I know, annoying...)	15:54
Jucato	try alien*	15:54
sigma	oh my gosh, lol. they go all the way to make a gui to search and it still needs regular expressions to work:)	15:55
Jucato	find is a pretty GUI frontend to "find" and "grep"	15:56
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sigma	thanks, its working well now, it should tell people that in the find bar or add the star in at the end automatically	15:57
nosrednaekim	sigma: but what if people want an exact match?	15:57
Jucato	(reg exp are actually very powerful... once you know even just the basics....)	15:57
Jucato	nosrednaekim: the actual problem is that kfind doesn't really tell the user in an obvious manner that it requires regexp	15:58
sigma	nosrednaekim: good point!	15:58
nosrednaekim	hmmm yeah,it really should.	15:58
sigma	ya thats it Jucato	15:58
Jucato	or it should "scale" to both...accepting reg exp and non-reg exp...	15:58
Jucato	dunno if that's even possible though :)	15:59
* Jucato goes back to studying		15:59
sigma	there should be a one line hint above the search bar giving an example of how to enter the variable	15:59
sigma	maybe its fixed in kde4	15:59
Jucato	(or gone... dunno :P)	15:59
Riddell	anyone with xinerama? testers needed for qt 4	15:59
bar	The petition!!!!! http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mainactor/index.html	16:00
Jucato	sigma: oh Dolphin works on filters, but only for the current directory (same as filters in Konqueror)	16:00
sigma	lol, i test drove konqueror on a kde4 live cd, its great, looks so much better. i still don't like dolphin, seems to be lacking functionality. i still say kde should use konq for file browsing and firefox for web browsing	16:01
Jucato	sigma: that last part is impossible :)	16:02
sigma	Jucato: why you say that - how come its possible for gnome to do it but not kde?	16:03
Jucato	GNOME's default web browser isn't Firefox	16:03
nosrednaekim	Jucato: what are you studying?	16:03
Jucato	C++	16:03
SSJ_GZ	sigma: Use of a non-KDE component is up to the distros; it's out of KDE's hands.	16:03
Jucato	SSJ_GZ: although what he's saying is that KDE itself should use Firefox as KDE's browser	16:04
nosrednaekim	Jucato: i'm trying to learn SIP so I can make a python linking to the qt pictureflow widget	16:04
Jucato	sigma: one good reason is that a KDE browser would need to use KDE :)	16:04
sigma	Jucato: good point! but why is firefox the norm in ubuntu and not kubuntu?	16:05
xRaich[o]2x	sigma: firefox is gtk based and loads a shitload of libs. and that comsumes memory	16:06
nosrednaekim	sigma: because firefox is written in gtk, which is what gnome uses	16:06
Jucato	sigma: that's for distros to decide. nothing to do with GNOME or KDE actually	16:06
SSJ_GZ	nosrednaekim: It's a bit of a stretch to say Firefox is "written in GTK" but yes, it currently uses GTK as its toolkit on Linux.	16:07
nosrednaekim	yeah..	16:08
sigma	well i use firefox, the only extra lib i had to install was libstdcc++5 to install it, can't say its consuming that much more memory	16:08
sigma	is there any way just to remove the web browsing part of konqueror?	16:09
nosrednaekim	sigma: you probably had already installed other gtk apps.	16:09
Jucato	just don't use it	16:09
Jucato	the web browsing part of Konqueror (KHTML) is used in other KDE apps to. it's a core library	16:09
sigma	nope firefox was the first one	16:10
sigma	oh ok i see, better not fiddle with that one!	16:10
sigma	all the other dep's except that one lib were pre-installed on my system	16:11
sigma	does anyone know if theres a .deb package for the vdrift racing game?	16:11
nosrednaekim	!info vdrift	16:12
mot_	what package enables slideshow in konqueror?	16:12
ubotu	Package vdrift does not exist in gutsy	16:12
Insurgent	HEy.	16:12
nosrednaekim	hey Insurgent	16:12
Insurgent	Can someone help me out?	16:12
sigma	i checked packages.ubuntu.com - it wasn't there	16:12
Insurgent	I'm trying to update and it isn't working	16:12
nosrednaekim	Insurgent: whats the problem	16:12
sigma	whats the problem?	16:12
nosrednaekim	sigma: try www.getdeb.net	16:12
sigma	will do, thanks	16:13
Jucato	mot_: what slideshow do you mean?	16:13
Insurgent	nosrednaekim, during update i get a 404 on "http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz"	16:13
sigma	i hate building from source	16:13
mot_	Jucato, slideshow view	16:13
* Jucato loves compiling...		16:13
Insurgent	It's in trying to compile to kubuntu 7.4	16:13
Insurgent	It's in trying to compile to kubuntu 7.04	16:13
* Jucato has never seen a slideshow view		16:13
nosrednaekim	Insurgent: compile?	16:13
Insurgent	Err	16:14
Insurgent	upgrade*	16:14
Insurgent	I'm not at all with it today.	16:14
llutz	mot_: kipi-plugins	16:14
nosrednaekim	Insurgent: you're trying to upgrade to 7.04? then remove that line.	16:14
Jucato	llutz: in Konqueror?	16:14
Insurgent	Remove what line?	16:14
llutz	Jucato: iirc uses konqi some kio-slave to use those plugins too	16:14
nosrednaekim	from your /etc/apt/sources.list.... the line that has the kubuntu URL in ir.	16:14
nosrednaekim	*it	16:14
Insurgent	nosrednaekim, okay.	16:15
Insurgent	Thanks	16:15
Jucato	llutz: I don't think Konqueror uses any kipi stuff at all	16:15
sigma	hey i didnt know that getdeb.net was owned by canonical	16:15
mot_	llutz, nogo, i already have that installed and it's not doing the trick.	16:15
Jucato	perhaps Gwenview, Digikam or Krita	16:15
sigma	why is it then not in packages.ubuntu.com?	16:15
Insurgent	Arg.	16:15
nosrednaekim	sigma: unsuppoerted games mostly.