[00:10] anyone elses host file break upgrading from gutsy? [00:11] not mine. [00:12] also, I'm in the last testing phase for pulseaudio-0.9.8-1ubuntu1. The source changes are at http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu/revision/crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd?start_revid=crimsun%40ubuntu.com-20071206000640-0phcv0s4gx8yqfdd [00:12] Consider that a last call for comments ;) [00:14] What comments are you after? [00:15] any [00:15] e.g., source, usage, wishlist, ... [00:16] Why are you using XSBC-Vcs-Bzr? Isn't Vcs-Bzr standard yet? [00:16] no idea. Is it? [00:16] I'm pretty sure it is. [00:16] looks like it is [00:17] hmm. [00:18] I guess I need to use the bazaar.lp syntax, too? [00:19] i.e., Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu [00:19] Whatever works, I suppose. [00:19] (You could even use lp://~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio, I think. Or something similar) [00:20] the two templates I'm using are ubiquity and mplayer [00:20] they sound like good templates. Might as well follow them. [00:30] RAOF: thanks! [00:31] NP [00:31] Thanks for the pulseaudio :) === crdlb_ is now known as crdlb [01:34] anyone else install hardy into a VM? [01:35] yep [01:35] You also have a problem with resizing the "install" window? [01:36] I moved the panels so its not a big deal , but was strange there for a sec [01:36] honestly, i cannot remember [01:36] kk [01:36] is it reproduceable? [01:37] i believe so [01:37] im installing into a VM atm or i would go test it [01:38] beauty of a VM [01:38] im playing golf online right now,else i would boot + try :) === nalioth__ is now known as nalioth [01:46] it is a huge panel--installed it when it came out [01:47] Greetings [01:48] not to stir any trouble.. but how does http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2006121402026NWKNDV affect Ubuntu? [01:49] anyone? [01:50] That's pretty old. [01:50] Also, the worst-case-scenario is that we patch the check out of our kernel. [01:50] I'm pretty new [01:50] =) [01:51] I asked in #Ubuntu and they sent me here [01:51] I'm not sure why they'd do that. Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps :) [01:52] So then its not for the development channel? [01:52] Well, maybe, kinda. [01:52] man.. it can be hard to get info in Linux [01:52] So, in short: (1) I don't think that it's happening, and (2) I don't think we would ship a kernel that broke the nvidia & fglrx (among others) drivers. [01:53] I suppose it kinda is hardy-development related. [01:54] ok thanks... [02:15] which package are the iwl3945 drivers in for 2.6.24? === ember_ is now known as ember [02:32] I think they are part of the kernel now === Am|Birthday is now known as Amaranth === Tomcat_` is now known as Tomcat_ === macd_ is now known as macd === Seveaz is now known as Seveas [10:09] good morning guys and gals [10:18] anyone with probs with fonts in nautilus??? [10:18] I see a few squares instead of the proper text === enyc_ is now known as enyc [13:15] I'm experiencing some lockups on Hardy, but no output is given (as far as I noticed). Where could I look for info about it? [13:16] Or is it known that Hardy is locking up? [13:17] which driver? [13:18] graphics card? [13:18] it's freezing up on normal usage, sometimes just after compiz *seems* to be activated. [13:18] If it's graphics card, nvidia. [13:18] new (100.x) drivers [13:27] odd [13:27] * Hobbsee doesn't have nvidia [13:29] Maybe it's the driver, I've seen people complaining about freezing with NVidia drivers, but I have used 96.31 (gutsy) and 169.04 (nvidia beta) and it never happened to me. :P [13:30] Lunks: recent bios upgrade ? [13:30] nop [13:30] just installed hardy from daily livecd [13:31] I started having some wierdness with 100.x after my latest bios upgrade but as they fixed HPET and amd-v I wanted to keep them [13:31] (So I use 169.04) [13:31] Did the lockups ended? [13:31] yeah - But I never had them before with 100.x [13:38] h3sp4wn: guess I'll try a new kernel and nvidia 169 =P [14:00] yeah, looks like it's freezing a lot. :P [14:01] gave up some X comfort to see if it stops locking up. [15:10] Looks like my lock ups are not NVidia related. [15:10] To figure it out, I launched Ubuntu on recovery mode and did modprobe -r nvidia [15:10] didn't use x, and it still hanged [15:11] If I can provide more info, I gladly will, but someone has to point me in some directions. :> [15:15] Lunks: Using which kernel ? the gutsy one ? [15:16] h3sp4wn: the one that came with hardy, I believe it's 2.6.22-14 [15:16] Lunks: Try a 2.6.24-rc4 kernel or the ubuntu-hardy.git repository [15:17] h3sp4wn: I was trying to compile it, but I couldn't as it froze on me [15:17] h3sp4wn: Do you know somewhere I can get a .deb? [15:19] I can give you the headers + image for 2.6.24-rc3-cfs-v24 [15:19] for i386 if you want (but you would have to build nvidia.ko yourself) [15:21] h3sp4wn: ok, I'm using x86 too. [15:21] h3sp4wn: if it stops hanging, I'll compile it myself [15:21] (been trying to use 2.6.24-rc4-zen0) [15:22] Its 184MB :/ [15:22] I don't have anywhere I can store it with that much free space [15:23] damn [15:24] h3sp4wn: try www.divshare.com [15:24] thank you for everything. :) [15:27] hi [15:28] quick question: does any one here use Seahorse? [15:28] horse? [15:28] in hardy, it doesn't seem to support sshkeys. only pgp [15:28] version: seahorse 2.21.3 [15:28] Xemanth: yes, seahorse, a keyring manager [15:29] i c [15:29] thought you were talking about Seamonkey or something :) [15:29] do you use it ? [15:30] I want o check, before posting to LP [15:30] is there any other ssh key manager with gui? [15:31] only keyring manager which i use is kgpg === apecat_ is now known as apecat [15:32] let me check [15:36] Xemanth: also on kgpg there's no ssh key!!! [15:36] I can see it on my disk [15:36] and use it to connect via ssh [15:36] but it doesn't appear on any of this two key managers [15:53] h3sp4wn: will you upload .deb kernel, then? :> [15:53] Lunks: If you can think of a method I can do it without signing up anywhere [15:54] h3sp4wn: www.divshare.com [15:54] h3sp4wn: you don't need to sign up. [15:54] Only drawback is that it'll last for 30 days only, but that's not an issue as I expect to download it right away. :P [15:55] I would guess it would be faster to just make one than for me to upload 200MB [15:55] I cannot understand why it is so big either [15:55] Well, if you don't want to register, you don't want to. But I find this service one of the best. [15:56] h3sp4wn: looks like there are some stuff you can do to narrow its size down [15:56] The default ubuntu one is nowhere near that big [15:57] sorry, i didn't know it doesn't have a no-register uploading method anymore [15:57] hang on, I'll try to find out about ti [15:59] Lunks: I will build a cut down version [15:59] what's it? =P [15:59] Lunks: What do you use in terms of stuff that is not in the main kernel source [16:00] I've got a ps/2 keyboard, an usb mouse, athlon xp proccessor, < 4gb ram [16:00] I use bluetooth but you can leave it off [16:00] as far as I get it not freezing, I will build a new kernel [16:01] So you don't need to make an everlasting bulletproof kernel for me. :P [16:02] ok [16:16] thank you, h3sp4wn [16:19] I know why it was so big also (full debug kernel) [16:20] hmm I didn't notice this checkbox on xconfig [16:20] I'll check for it next time. === hydrogen is now known as notHydrogen [16:52] how do I use xrand to setup dual monitor? any links? [16:53] h3sp4wn: is it compiling still? [16:55] anyone?!?! I need to configura a dual monitor system... [16:56] and displayconfig-gtk is not yet ready for x 7.3 [17:06] h3sp4wn: i'll have to go afk and if it's still compiling say 'hau' =P === LUnks- is now known as Lunks === awalton_1 is now known as awalton__ [17:25] h3sp4wn: could you say 'hello'? =P === x-spec-t is now known as Spec [17:28] hi [17:28] h3sp4wn: i'll go afk, i hope you don't mind. is it still compiling? [17:29] Lunks: I was just going to upload (and check it boots I stripped tons of stuff) [17:29] ok, I'll wait then [17:34] Lunks: It boots (there is no sound drivers - because I build them externally) [17:34] np [17:34] http://openwrt.vcp-springe.de/experimental/h3sp4wn/ [17:34] h3sp4wn: thanks a lot, man [17:35] hopefully it won't lock up anymore [17:35] oh god the nvidia + smp lockup? [17:35] Amaranth: dunno =P [17:36] Do you have nvidia? Do you have a dual core or dual cpu system? Do you get random lockups? [17:36] I've tried running on recovery mode and then modprobe -r nvidia, but it still locks up [17:36] I don't have a dual core. [17:36] Athlon XP 1900+ [17:36] Then you, luckily, have a different problem [17:36] You don't want my problem [17:36] hahah [17:36] 3d apps make it happen more often, I'm a compiz dev :/ [17:36] I can't see why Ubuntu locking up for a different reason is having luck, but anyway [17:37] oh thats bad [17:37] and we get at least 1 bug report a week about it [17:37] I had that problem (and I only had it after updating my bios to one with hpet and amd-v) - but I don't anymore [17:37] from people blaming compiz [17:37] with the beta driver [17:37] Like I'm trying, building a newer kernel wouldn't solve it, Amaranth? [17:37] h3sp4wn: afaik this only happens with nv4x cards [17:37] the Geforce 7000 series [17:38] I'm on a FX 5200. :P [17:38] Amaranth: This one is a 7300GT [17:38] Lunks: i dunno, my particular problem is with the nvidia driver [17:38] Bad thing about lock ups is that there's not much debug info when it locks up. :P [17:38] h3sp4wn: i've got 2.6.22 and the 169 driver [17:38] rebooting into linux again, wish me luck! :> [17:38] sometimes it only locks up for 5-10 seconds [17:38] h3sp4wn: thanks for the help man, really appreciated [17:39] hopefully I'll hang on more than 10 minutes here. :D [17:48] successfully booted and ran X using nv, but looks like I didn't have to reinstall my Ubuntu, as kernel framebuffer on X is what caused issues way back. :P [17:48] now let's hope I can build the kernel without locking up. :D [17:49] h3sp4wn: thank you very much! [18:14] Amaranth: you should try a newer kernel. :) [18:15] Lunks: it's the nvidia driver [18:15] they admit it, they thought they fixed it [18:17] too bad, then =P [18:46] Still locking up. =\ [18:46] So, I can say it's not kernel nor nvidia module wise. === Lunks- is now known as Lunks [19:48] Hi, are hardy and fglrx supposed to work correctly with 3d accell and all? [19:59] bernier: All bets are off for the time being === magnetron_ is now known as Terminus-_ [20:50] anyone reporting a problem with phpmyadmin [20:50] on hardy === Terminus-_ is now known as Terminu === Spec is now known as x-spec-t [21:33] it is possible to dual boot kubuntu 7,10 and kubuntu hardy [21:33] skyfalcon866: yes [21:33] would i get the same results in virtualbox running hardy [21:34] Never used virtualbox [21:34] ok [21:34] I think someone complained within the last few days it was not working in virtualbox [21:34] but however as it was only one person its hard to know whether there really is a problem [21:35] ok one more thing [21:35] could installing kbuntu hardy break my stable kubuntu install [21:36] It could cause a black hole or the end of the universe or death to you [21:36] But if you read some instructions on how to do it - then it should be ok [21:37] ok =) [21:38] skyfalcon866: Depends how important the stuff is on the other install - you could use one of those removeable hdd trays and keep each os on a seperate disk and only have one in at once [21:39] like external hdd? [21:40] Not exactly I dunno how better to describe it right now though [21:41] ok === tonyy is now known as tonyyarusso [22:08] How far has the telepathy project progressed in recent times ? === notHydrogen is now known as hydrogem === hydrogem is now known as hydrogen [22:47] "/dev/sda5 has been mounted 75 times without being checked, check forced." .. why am i getting the feeling gnome-mount doesn't call fsck before mounting? :-) [22:59] I would think the first five letters of the command would explain any malfunctions [23:10] hey guys got hardy installed on my new eee pc [23:11] much better than xandros [23:19] cps1966: Have you the madwifi patch ? [23:20] (atheros posted it to the madwifi trac) === jacobmp92 is now known as jacob