=== cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [15:02] cjwatson: so, about the livecd-rootfs/xorg.conf breakage again.. I'm thinking that since livecd-rootfs hasn't changed much, the cleanup of x-x.postinst is the reason why it breaks now [15:03] that seems probable. fundamentally the live CD needs to generate a completely fresh xorg.conf at boot. It's your choice as to how that should be implemented [15:05] yep, I need to take another look at what was cleaned up from the postinst [17:18] soren: do you reckon you could take the netcfg/get_domain priority fix that came up on ubuntu-installer@lists yesterday? [17:18] (make it be asked at priority high in the static case, but still medium for DHCP) [17:18] I'm not subscribed to ubuntu-installer, actually. [17:18] I probably should be. [17:19] Who needs sleep anyway? [17:19] :) [17:19] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-installer/2007-December/000125.html is the thread [17:19] it's a quiet list [17:20] not announcement-only, but the traffic is low anyway [17:23] Yes, I can tell. :) [17:24] I should be able to make that happen. [17:25] great, thanks [17:25] netcfg is in bzr [17:25] usual place [17:25] Got it. [17:25] soren: I switched all the Original-Vcs-Svn fields I could find over to XS-Original-Vcs-Svn, by the way [17:25] didn't bother with uploads just for that though [17:25] Sure. [18:01] cjwatson: regarding bug 150872 and bug 175165, they're more of a udev problem, correct? [18:01] Launchpad bug 150872 in ubiquity "Permanent fstab line for removable CDROM clashes with flash drives." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150872 [18:01] Launchpad bug 175165 in ubiquity "Don't add removable drives to /etc/fstab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175165 [18:01] * evand hugs ubotu [18:39] hi guys, when using a preseed file the splash command in the grub line is giving me a black screen when the computer reboots for the first time [18:39] what can i change to fix this? [18:46] what does /etc/usplash.conf say? You don't get a black screen when you boot without the splash argument? [18:58] evand, when i remove the splash argument ubuntu loads fine [18:58] let me look [18:59] and you don't have this issue when installing without using a preseed file? [19:00] exactly [19:01] wow, it didn't pick a good resolution either [19:01] looks like crap, changing it manually [19:06] # Usplash configuration file [19:06] xres=1280 [19:06] yres=1024 [19:12] still there? [19:15] indeed, does changing the resolution help? [19:19] evand: hmm, perhaps partman-target [19:21] hrm, ok. [19:21] Goosemoose: sounds like bug 150930 [19:21] Launchpad bug 150930 in ubiquity "Black screen, and bad usplash.conf" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150930 [19:22] partman-target's hardcoding might be less necessary now that we don't actually *need* the CD post-reboot [19:23] Hi are this channel also for the alternative installation cd? [19:23] ahh I see the topic ;-) [19:24] I have a problem with creation of raid/md devices both in ubuntu and debian(and I know it works on some machines) [19:42] cjwatson, so what should i do to fix the issue? [19:42] manually change the grub file on every install? [19:46] it's the usplash configuration file, not grub ... [19:46] Goosemoose: hang on, is this the alternate install CD or netboot? if either, it can't be bug 150930 [19:46] Launchpad bug 150930 in ubiquity "Black screen, and bad usplash.conf" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150930 [19:47] Goosemoose: however, you could overwrite /target/etc/usplash.conf with your preferred version in a preseed/late_command preseed [19:49] netobot [19:49] netboot [19:49] hmm , might have to do that [19:51] strange thing is i set the monitor resolution in the preseed file to 1024x768 [19:51] but usplash had it larger [19:58] cjwatson: You've mentioned that bug 173954 is a high priority for Hardy but it is still New [19:58] Launchpad bug 173954 in ubiquity "Installer deletes entire disk without warning" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173954 [19:58] hunh [19:58] It was still new a while ago [19:58] * bdmurray carries on [20:21] ok so changing the usplash.conf file worked [20:21] is there a good doc on how to use the preseed/late_command? [20:22] i haven't used it yet so no idea how to do things like that [20:22] still dont know why it doesn't listed to the preseed file though [20:31] bdmurray: :-) [20:31] Goosemoose: should be in the preseeding appendix to the installation guide [20:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html [20:32] specifically https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-advanced.html#preseed-shell [20:34] cjwatson, i saw that page, it just lists an example [20:34] nothing about how to do it [20:34] is it just a string of command separate by a ; ? [20:39] the value of preseed/late_command is run as sh -c "whatever" [20:39] so basically, yes [21:04] ok [21:05] shouldn't: xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/config/monitor/mode-list \ [21:05] select 1024x768 @ 60 Hz [21:05] in the preseed have set the usplash.conf to 1024x768? [21:06] aiui, usplash sets its configuration independent of that. [21:07] usplash works off xserver-xorg/config/display/modes [21:07] ah, my mistake [21:08] you could try setting that instead [21:08] xserver-xorg xserver-xorg/config/display/modes 1024x768 [21:08] cjwatson: I saw you were editing the bug day wiki. I wrote a vim command mapping that makes it slightly easier with editmoin - but I end up editing it a lot [21:08] you could just set that as well, in fact. I don't recall the exact control flow [21:09] bdmurray: seeing as firefox just crashed, yeah, feel free to send that over ;) [21:09] hm ok, i didn't have that set [21:10] cjwatson, would i disable auto detect then? [21:10] cjwatson: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-bugsquad/2007-November/000666.html [21:19] bdmurray: thanks! [21:19] Goosemoose: not sure offhand, sorry, better to ask X folks [21:22] ubiquity: cjwatson * r2382 ubiquity/bin/ubiquity: note about xserver-xorg keyboard preseeding [21:24] ok, so, im still getting the Partition Disks prompt [21:24] cjwatson, :) [21:24] here's my partition info [21:24] d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true [21:24] d-i partman/choose_partition \ [21:24] select Finish partitioning and write changes to disk [21:24] d-i partman/confirm boolean true [21:25] you need to preseed partman-auto/disk and partman-auto/method to set up autopartitioning, otherwise you'll get partitioning prompts; see the installation guide which I believe goes into this [21:25] https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-partman [21:26] already had d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/hda [21:26] let me look for the other [21:26] oh i had commented out the method because i kept getting errors [21:26] for normal partitioning, you'd also want 'd-i partman-auto/method string regular' [21:27] if this is a simple install for schools should i use lvm? [21:27] commenting out the method "avoids" the errors by skipping autopartitioning entirely, which I don't think is what you want ;-) [21:27] I'd just use regular for a simple install [21:27] ok [21:31] ok did that cj [21:31] now i get [21:31] Partition Disks [21:31] No root file system [21:31] No root file system is defined [21:32] i used [21:32] d-i partman-auto/method string regular [21:35] look in syslog for more information [21:36] * cjwatson goes on holiday, back Monday [21:39] ok, quite a few messages there [21:39] partman says [21:39] no matching physical volumes found [21:39] no volume gourps found [21:39] also a few [21:39] kernel messages [21:40] end_request: i/o error, dev fd0, sector.... [21:52] cj, the doc you linked to doesnt mention auto/method at all [21:55] Goosemoose: yeah, it's a 7.04 guide and out of date for 7.10, trust me that you need it for 7.10 [21:56] I've prodded the help.ubuntu.com guys about uploading a 7.10 guide [21:56] gotcha [21:56] well, adding it triggers the error [21:56] actually, you need partman-auto/method on 7.04 too, the guide was just broken :-/ [21:56] not sure what the reasoning is but a manual prompt choice and choosing put it all in one partition worked [21:56] Goosemoose: sure, but only because if you leave it out, autopartitioning doesn't happen AT ALL [21:57] please take my word on this, you need it to do sane autopartitioning [21:57] i have added it [21:57] the things you quoted in syslog aren't relevant [21:57] i totally understand and believe you [21:57] might be more useful to put the whole log somewhere [21:57] anyway, I'm meant to be on holiday :) [21:57] ok what type of commands am i looking for, i stopped immediately at the prompt [21:57] well, go have some fun then! [21:58] 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb' and you'll be able to scp the syslog out [21:59] ok [22:02] ran that, looked like it was installing some stuff but it still gets denied when trying to ssh in [22:31] Hey - hacking on Ubuntu installer to do ntpdate for us, but we don't have /etc/services. [22:31] It looks like hacking ntpdate to provide sensible defaults in the absence of that is going to be annoying, and possibly not practical. [22:32] Openssh seems to cope by not using getaddrinfo, and just doing all the lookup steps one at a time. [22:33] Is that the right approach? I can imagine upstream not being happy about taking that. [22:38] what would the d-i command be to tell installer to use the guided-whole disk, because that's what works when i do it manually [22:41] hmm i wonder if isa-server is part of my problem [22:51] would this be accurate: [22:51] d-i preseed/late_command string apt-install ssh [23:02] jbailey: You can't postpone the ntpdate call until netbase is installed? [23:03] soren: I think the hope it to run it as early as possible to make logging has the right timestamp. [23:03] And if we're really lucky, they're not doing anything with kerberos that early, but I can't entirely put it past them. Logging was an earlier concern of theirs though. [23:03] jbailey: Ah.. Well, you *could* just put in a temporary /etc/services with just ntp in it.. [23:04] If we won't get smacked for that, it would be nice. [23:04] jbailey: But that's not particularly pretty either. [23:06] jbailey: I don't know. I've not messed around with the installer much, but it seems like the most innocent solution I can think of to create a temporary /etc/services in the installer's root. There's no need to pollute the /target with it, I guess? [23:07] soren: is : d-i preseed/late_command string apt-install ssh correct? [23:07] no, not at all. We could literally create it, run ntpdate, and then blow it away. [23:07] jbailey: Or just leave it. [23:08] jbailey: If you create it from its postinst (i.e. not ship it in the udeb), it shouldn't get in anybody's way. [23:08] Thanks, soren. [23:08] Goosemoose: I'd do "apt-get install" instead of apt-install, though. [23:08] Goosemoose: At the time of late_command, that should be available, afaik. [23:09] jbailey: I'd still run it by cjwatson, though. [23:09] jbailey: He's full of magic tricks. :) [23:10] soren, ok maybe thats why im getting the install error [23:38] Goosemoose: Er.. No, apt-install should be fine, by the way. [23:38] damn [23:38] still got the error either way [23:38] Goosemoose: "the error"? [23:38] Installation Step Failed [23:38] on the [23:38] Select and Install Software screen [23:38] just popped up seconds ago [23:38] going to look at syslog [23:40] ok [23:40] i see after a bunch of get calls on the local apt-cache server [23:40] E: Method http has died unexpectedly! [23:40] tasksel: aptitude failed (100) [23:40] those are in-target [23:41] main-menu[2994]: Warning ** : Configuring pkgsel failed .... [23:43] And that doesn't happen if you omit your late_command? [23:47] no [23:47] it works fine [23:47] im wondering if there's a problem going through the ISA server [23:48] everything i see is going through http://10.0.2.131 which is allowed all access and is running apt-cache [23:48] im thinking maybe something is trying to bypass apt? [23:51] I don't quite understand why the tasksel step will fail because of late_command being set. [23:51] I'm going to have to pass. [23:52] heh doh [23:53] im ready to throw these out the window and go back do my win xp images. at least i had those all setup. [23:53] My linux desktop knoweldge isn't there. I'm great at LAMP, been doing that for a decade, but outside that realm, I'm all windows networking [23:54] Goosemoose: It might not be a very difficult to solve problem. I'm just not really an installer expert by any standard. [23:54] i know. i've been going in circles for 2 weeks now [23:54] cjwatson has been a lot of help [23:55] i have a machine all setup, authenticates against the windows domain and everything, wish i could just image the damn thing and copy it [23:59] cjwatson: Do you happent to have a clever test setup for the various d-i compontents? I've got a patch for the netcfg stuff we discussed rearlier, but I'd like to test it before committting it. [23:59] Wow... typing is hard.