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kprWATCH CHA!00:00
nosrednaekimgood :D00:00
kprGreat =]00:00
nosrednaekimKingzar: shortcuts working?00:03
Kingzari haven't restarted00:03
Kingzari won't try untill i can get compiz fusion working00:03
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nosrednaekimKingzar: :D00:03
Kingzari would like to know why the upgrading part is soo slow00:04
* nosrednaekim cries since his dad didn't get him the KDE4-RC2 packages00:04
Kingzarit goes at 25 kb/s max while i can get up to 600kb/.s00:04
nosrednaekimKingzar: you are probably using the main mirrors, which are slow00:05
Kingzarare there alternative ways to get this done fast?00:05
Kingzari don't like to be waiting 1 hour for the update00:05
nosrednaekimKingzar: adept->manage repositories00:05
nosrednaekimof course, you'll have to cancel the download (but everything so far is saved)00:06
Kingzarok00:06
geniiKingzar: Are you using the spanish repos then? They should be closest to you physically according to whois on your address00:06
Kingzari'm in unfamiliar water now, i just downloaded firefox for linux.. extracted the content..00:07
Kingzarso now i press a .exe?00:07
Kingzarto installl00:07
geniino00:07
nosrednaekimKingzar: no..... get firefox from adept.00:07
cheguevaraKingzar, why not install the firefox in the repositories?00:07
onishidatomaybe it's yep00:07
onishidatono exe in Linux00:07
onishidato"D00:07
kprLol00:08
nosrednaekimKingzar: almost every program for linux is in the repositories where it is simple to install00:08
kprYeah, don't you know .exe's are from the evil Windows. We kill Doze users here. Bow down to Linus. He is a god. ;)00:08
onishidatohey, can someone tell me how to fix the amarok. i can't make it play mp300:08
* genii makes kpr's next coffee a decaf00:09
kpronishidato: Do you have the correct codecs installed?00:09
ardchoillehahaha genii00:09
nosrednaekim!mp3 | onishidato00:09
ubotuonishidato: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:09
imlaidbacregister open4me00:09
onishidatoi have all stuff install00:09
kprFool, my coffee is already a decaf!00:09
* kpr drinks more.00:09
geniiKingzar: You are right now in the middle of some system update?00:09
geniikpr: :)00:09
BluesKajkpr, libxine1-ffmpeg00:09
onishidatoi don't know why it can't play mp3 also00:09
Kingzari just got my ubuntu working after 5 days.. and it's updating now00:10
kpr?? What about Xine?00:10
kprI didn't ask the question.00:10
kpr=O00:10
geniiKingzar: After the update is done, open the package manager and install firefox from there00:10
kpr=[00:10
Kingzaris there a ctrl + alt + del... function in linux00:10
kprPeople think I ask questions when I don't and when I do, they think I don't. =[00:10
BluesKajerr onishidato, libxine1-ffmpeg00:10
stdinKingzar: ctrl-alt-esc00:10
geniiKingzar: It's  advisable to let the update finish00:10
onishidatocan you tell me more detai?00:11
kprKingzar: Highly advisable00:11
Kingzartoo late, thnx for the advise00:11
Kingzari think i messed it up00:11
onishidatowow00:11
Kingzareverytime i startup adept manager now it says it's in use balblalabl00:11
BluesKajonishidato, in the konsole : sudo apt-get install libxine-ffmpeg00:11
nosrednaekim!adeptfix00:12
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:12
BluesKajoops libxine1-ffmpeg , onishidato00:12
nosrednaekimKingzar: that is if you don't have an instance running00:12
geniionishidato: Visit the websites provided to you above for help on getting mp3 and other copyrighted things to play00:12
Kingzarnope00:12
Voyage__iam using virtual box to run winxp .  how to share files and folders in win xp? it only shows c: .         (in linux virtual box tells me to use "net use x:\\vboxsvr\shareedfoldername"  ) didnt got it.00:12
Kingzarthank you00:13
onishidatogenii: i have visit it, and nothing change:D00:13
Kingzarhow would you remember that code out of your head lol00:13
stdinwhy not, I do00:13
geniionishidato: You visit it, follow the instructions given there. Just visiting does nothing00:13
onishidatoof course i follow all the instruction lol00:14
onishidatobut nothing change00:14
Kingzarhmm so what firefox version should i choose out of the 50?>00:14
geniionishidato: What application are you trying to play the mp3 with?00:14
onishidatoamarok00:14
BluesKajonishidato, relogin sometime helps...or closing amarok and restarting it00:15
onishidatorestart a thousand times00:15
onishidatobut nothing happen00:15
gabriel_i just installed the no-ip client package (for dynamic ip).. umm.. how do i configure it?00:15
onishidatowhen i try to play some mp3 file00:15
Voyage__anyone?00:15
onishidatothey said that the mp3 format is now install00:15
onishidatoplease restart your amarok00:16
onishidatobut when i try to restart00:16
onishidatonothing happen00:16
gabriel_onishidato: u running live cd?00:16
BluesKajdo you close it in the panel too ?00:16
onishidatoi close it every where00:17
onishidatoi run the file in my computer00:17
onishidatonot live one00:17
Kingzaranyone know how to pick the right firefox version out of the 50!?00:17
geniiin bottom right do you see Amarok icon near clock?00:17
onishidatoof course i close it too00:17
pedkingzar: 50? in official repository? I think the current "correct" one is simple "firefox"? I will check what I have got.00:18
geniiKingzar: Just use package manager to install "firefox"00:18
geniiped: Well there are plugins in there, they can be confusing to sort through00:18
onishidatoKingzaf: fire fox is uptodate, use adet to install it00:19
onishidatoadept00:19
geniiKingzar: You have "Adept Installer" open?00:19
onishidatohey00:20
onishidatohelp me00:20
onishidatoplease00:20
Kingzaryes00:20
Kingzarbut there is firefox00:20
geniiKingzar: If so in Search part put   firefox    then a space after00:20
Kingzarfirefox300:20
Kingzarfirefox3.0bin00:20
Kingzarbalbalbal00:20
geniiKingzar: Just firefox00:20
pedgenii: not only plugins, also some dummy transitional packages. at least in 6.10 ..00:21
pedKingzar: pure "firefox" is enough (plus it's dependencies, but Adept does mark them automatically for you)00:22
Kingzargot it00:22
onishidatohey ho00:23
onishidatocan someone help me00:24
ardchoilleonishidato: With what?00:24
onishidatoAmarok mp3 player00:24
onishidatoahhhhh00:24
Kingzarhmm Remember anyone i told msn on kopete didn't work because of wallet.. well if i try to login on hotmail.com directly and i say store.. wallet interfering again, result password incorrect. if i say do not store, ic an login..00:24
downandouthello all00:25
pedare problems with connecting from kubuntu 7.10 on internet common? I installed it on one laptop, and whether I try wire or WiFi, I can't connect to my PC with kubu 6.10 sharing inet connection. (when I boot WXP, both WiFi and wire works just as expected) ... when I tried things like sudo dhcpclient eth0, I don't see any RX packet on the PC side on that one eth0 ... any ideas or what I should try next?00:25
downandoutcan someone tell me the name of the config file where kontact defines the spamfilter software it can use? Kontact isn't detecting spamassassin and i remember last time I had to change the path in that config to detect it00:26
onishidatocan someone show me some mp3 player you usually use? i'm gonna hate Linux now.... grrrr00:27
downandoutnevermind its kmail.antispamrc00:27
downandoutgood old help files :)00:27
MidMarkped: depends, do you connect to a router or to what?00:31
BluesKajonishidato, do any other players work ?00:31
onishidatoi use mplayer and it works00:31
downandoutjust a little suggestions for kubuntu change kmail.antispamrc "PipeCmdDetect=spamassassin -L" to  "PipeCmdDetect=spamassassin -V"00:31
downandoutIt will fix the detection of the antispam in kontact00:31
pedonishidato: I use amarok, works for me, but I used automatix or some ugly script like that back than when I was installing this 6.10 ... I'm trying to migrate to 7.10 lately, but lot of work with it and I'm too busy to finish it anytime soon.00:32
BluesKajok onishidato , then reinstall amarok with adept00:32
Kingzar!mp300:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:32
pedMidMark: "internet setup": usb ADSL modem <-> PC with kubu 6.10 + forwarding connection trough iptables + dhcpd <-> 1) ethernet card 2) WiFi card in ad-hoc WEP00:33
Kingzaris it not possible to load mp3s in amarok from a windows drive?00:34
Kingzari cannot play mp3s00:34
Kingzarand they are in a windows drive00:34
kub^^hi i have set a static ip with system settings | network settings but after i reboot it goes onto DHCP, how do i fix this?00:34
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DaSkreech!mp3 | Kingzar00:34
ubotuKingzar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:34
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onishidatoreinstall it00:35
onishidatook00:35
onishidatolet me try00:35
BluesKajthen relogin00:35
pedMidMark: notebook doing problems: asus S96Fm (rebranded as HAL3000, local brand probably) ... ethernet + WiFi ... in WinXP both works, the wire automagically, the WiFi after entering my password for WE P.... I booted up 7.10 liveCD, installed on disk, rebooted ... tried to connect. All I get is after several seconds the avahi-like IP. (both eth0 and wifi eth1 interfaces, whichever I try) ...00:36
pedMidMark: on the PC side when I check ifconfig eth0, there's no RX packets arriving at all from notebook. (when I try to run sudo dhcpclient on notebook .. it's writing it's sending dhcp requests several times.. .but no RX packet at all on PC side)00:37
onishidatoi'm trying to install it again00:38
Kingzaris there anything about external harddisk formated under windows?00:38
pedMidMark: looks to me like either something's horribly broken in my 7.10 installation (but it's clean install from CD), or both WiFi and ethernet card drivers are bad on the CD and need recompile to work correctly.00:39
MidMarkped: ok wait a minute pls00:39
pedMidMark: should it work without anything special? I mean connecting the wire to ethernet, with DHCP server on second side? There's no magic "allow internet" button in 7.10, right?00:39
MidMarkno00:40
MidMarktryied to ping www.google.it?00:40
MidMarkor ping other machine?00:40
pedmaybe the HW is badly detected... :/ ... pity I don't have any papers from that bug, I will probably check WXP what devices are there.00:40
pedMidMark: it's dead.. no gate, no DNS ... when I let the Knetworkmanager to connect, it ends with avahi-like self DNS config.  ... didn't try ping on my PC eth0 IP directly though.00:41
onishidatois anybody Vietnamese00:43
onishidatoi need to ask a question00:43
DaSkreech!vietnam00:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vietnam - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:44
DaSkreechSilly bot00:44
hdevalencehow do I pause a gui app?00:44
DaSkreechhdevalence: ctrl+Z from the command line :)00:44
DaSkreechor send it a sigstop00:44
onishidatodoes someone know how to intsall Unicode00:44
DaSkreechonishidato: Install Unicode?00:44
hdevalenceDaSkreech: how do I do that?00:44
Minatakuonishidato: I was gonna say, your English seems pretty good00:45
Minataku!unicode00:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about unicode - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:45
MinatakuHm00:45
MinatakuI assume he means Unicode locales/fonts00:45
DaSkreech!skim00:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skim - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:45
DaSkreech!scim00:45
ubotuChinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM00:45
MinatakuWhich likely aren't stock00:45
onishidatoVietnamese unicode00:45
pedonishidato: kubuntu is long time UTF-8 default distro...00:45
MinatakuI use SCIM for Japanese input. It's nice.00:45
onishidatoan UTF-1600:45
Minatakuonishidato: Vietnamese is included in SCIM00:45
onishidatodo you guys know it?00:45
pedonishidato: if you have troubles with some app, it's probably local problem with application.00:46
pedonishidato: why utf-16?00:46
onishidatocause that is the front code for Vietnamese typing00:46
pedonishidato: utf-8 is enough + SCIM00:47
onishidatoSCIM?00:47
pedonishidato: oh, *should be* enough. I hope it works, never tried it. ;) .. but that's the future. (of any linux)00:47
ped<ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM00:47
onishidatook00:47
DaSkreech!scim | onishidato00:48
ubotuonishidato: Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM00:48
onishidatolet me try 1st00:48
hdevalenceDaSkreech: I have acidrip running and it's going out onto an external drive00:48
BluesKaj!vn00:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:48
hdevalenceDaSkreech: but I need to go downstairs00:48
onishidatoseem like linux doesn't care about Vietnam00:48
Tm_Tonishidato: why so?00:49
pedonishidato: UTF-16 is used mostly in MS windows only, and as it is both more difficult to handle for old ASCII apps (UTF-8 works most of the time with legacy applications too), and yet it does not cover all characters (just like UTF-8), I don't think it has any serious future. At least outside of MS world.00:49
hdevalenceDaSkreech: So, I send mencoder a sigstop, unmount the drive, do douwnstairs, remount, unstop, continue00:49
onishidatowe just have one versoi of it called Hacao00:49
onishidatoand that is the old versoin00:50
s1icknickany idea why an extra line with no text is created between the sentences when i run this: http://pastebin.com/d17f875d800:50
Tm_Tonishidato: "Linux" isn't company, it's up to volunteers in Vietnam I afraid00:50
onishidatoonly some guys00:50
pedonishida: sorry, I have no idea how much the work on vietnamesse support is complete, etc... I can just assure you the underlaying system is ready for Vietnamese, whole *buntu is by default in UTF-8 and ready for any characters/languages.00:51
onishidatoyou guys said that skim is good for us?00:52
pedonishidato: SCIM is pretty much a standart for .jp/korea/chinese, many people are using it.00:53
onishidatono vietnam in its keyboard layout00:53
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pedonishidato: I have no idea how much work is done on Vietnam things.. sorry, I'm from europe. Try to search for some local vietnam ubuntu web/forums/wikis00:54
hdevalencehow do I tell umount to ignore 'device is busy'?00:54
pedhdevalence: -f00:54
hdevalenceped: didn't work00:54
DaSkreechhdevalence: the process is not connected to your hard drive00:54
pedhdevalence: I see.. in manual it's described for "unreachable NFS" system. ... what kind of device? any idea why it is busy?00:55
pedhdevalence: did you try umount with root permissions or user only?00:55
hdevalenceped: i have acidrip ripping & encoding to an external drive; i need to go downstairs, drive must be unplugged and replugged00:56
hdevalencebrb00:56
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DaSkreechYes but what you are not realising is that the process is not connected to the drive00:57
DaSkreechhdevalence: Is this the same machine downstairs?01:00
onishidatooh01:00
onishidatostill can't type Vietnamese01:00
onishidatophew01:01
* onishidato sings01:02
* onishidato tired01:02
pagan0necan anyone help me get a broadcom wireless card setup in 7.10? it doesnt reconize it....01:03
pedonishidato: System settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard layout -> Vietnam vn Add>>01:04
pedonishidato: I can see it there in kubu 6.10. I'm not going to try it to install and use, sorry ;)01:04
pagan0neno takers?01:08
NickPrestapagan0ne, we're here.01:09
NickPrestapagan0ne, have you looked at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:10
bazhangmore info would be helpful pagan0ne01:10
pedoh, weird... now the ethernet wire works.. sh*t .. I will have to figure out why/when it works01:10
pagan0nebazhang: what more do you need?01:10
pagan0neNickPresta: reading now01:11
junkieHey, does anyone use refit to dualboot linux and mac os x?01:28
bazhanghttp://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/03/make-ubuntu-the-default-boot-on-a-macbook-refit-dual-boot-system/ junkie01:29
junkienot exactly my problem, but i'll look :)01:29
bazhanghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102 pagan0ne01:31
junkieAt the moment, I am actually stuck in linux and i need to get back into mac os x01:33
junkiebut refit isn't showing my os x partition01:33
fusserhola que tal01:34
Tm_T!es01:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.01:34
junkieSo, in other words, I need to get refit to boot mac os x :)01:35
MinatakuAs if you'd really WANT to boot OSX01:36
bazhangit would seem so junkie01:36
DaSkreech!spain01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spain - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:36
DaSkreech!brazil01:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.01:36
DaSkreechHeh01:36
junkiebazhang: exactly, but i just don't know how xD01:37
bazhangjunkie: not exactly a kubuntu question, sorry can't be of more help--you may want to try discussions.apple.com01:38
junkieok, thanks01:38
bazhangno problem01:39
DaSkreech!mac01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:39
DaSkreech!apple01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:39
DaSkreechDumb bot01:39
DaSkreech##mac is where you want to be I think01:39
pedjunkie: doesn't sound good by the way... :)01:41
DaSkreechBoot up a OSX Live DVD! :)01:43
bazhanghaha01:43
pedI think booting up linux and checking up partitions there is probably better idea01:43
junkieI'm in linux now01:43
junkieI've checked everything01:44
junkieThe only weird thing I noticed01:44
pedsudo fdisk -l01:44
s1icknickany way i can clean this up ??  http://pastebin.com/d4df0d67601:44
junkiewas that under fdisk, the partition comes up as "Linux LVM" for System01:44
pedjunkie: if you see the OSX partition there, there's still some hope01:44
junkieWhich doesn't seem right01:44
junkieIt's there, alright01:44
pedjunkie: that's good.. if it would be missing there, it would be definitely gone. So the problem is probably with "refit" (I don't know that piece of SW at all, sorry)01:45
pedjunkie: mind you, maybe it's good time to mount that OSX partition in linux (probably as read-only for safety), and copy any important data on some USB or CD/DVD ;)01:46
junkierefit is a boot loader for efi systems01:47
DaSkreechAh right01:47
DaSkreechefi has DRM in it as I recall?01:47
pedjunkie: no idea what you are talking about. (haven't seen Mac for years) Not my cup of tea.01:48
junkieDaSkreech: no idea, but i know that apple doesn't allow any access to bios settings, so probably01:49
DaSkreechThat part of the reason you can't emulate a mac?01:49
junkiei don't know, to be honest01:50
DaSkreech!ot | oy DaSkreech take it elsewhere!01:50
ubotuoy DaSkreech take it elsewhere!: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:50
DaSkreechfine you miserable bot!01:50
bazhanghaha01:50
DaSkreechjunkie: ##mac ?01:50
junkieDaSkreech: no response01:51
DaSkreechRight of course01:51
bazhangjunkie: mac has a bunch of forums; macfixit, insanelygreatmac, etc; they will have an answer01:51
junkiei hate forums :| hopefully one of them has an irc channel01:52
DaSkreechjunkie: Well go read the forums and see if they have one :)01:53
junkieDaSkreech: oh the irony :)01:53
DaSkreechAint it?01:54
pednight everyone01:54
DaSkreech!night01:54
ubotuIt's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds.  This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question.  Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake.  This is particularly true in the quieter channels.01:54
bazhanghttp://macirc.co.uk/channels.php junkie01:55
DaSkreechoh wait01:55
DaSkreechumm01:55
DaSkreechnight01:55
pedDaSkreech: nice pieace of SW, right? :D01:55
pedDaSkreech: and works globally...01:55
DaSkreechYeah seveas did a nice job01:55
pedDaSkreech: just the timing is sort of skewed.. usually when the night is in US, it's not in Asia, etc... but it looks like nobody's going to fix it01:56
DaSkreechped: apt-get install sun-201:57
limachey02:00
limacmy friend has a problem, he wants to view this page: http://www.anandabazar.com/, but its showing all wierd language(an alien languge) not the languag, they call Bengali02:00
fulat2khi folks, any idea how i can resize the bottom panel in KDE4 RC2?  it looks ridiculously huge.02:00
endeemmHi all02:01
junkiefulat2k: right click the panel, select 'configure panel' then use the resize option02:01
fulat2kjunkie: tried that, but nothing comes out :)02:02
limacright click on it! and then configure panel and then resize it02:02
fulat2klimac: that was the first thing i tried :P  heheh..02:02
junkieIt works for me02:02
endeemmany one wana help me setup compiz02:02
ardchoille!compiz | endeemm02:02
ubotuendeemm: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion02:02
limacedit the pixles size!02:02
endeemmthanx02:03
limacfulat2k: ^02:03
fulat2klimac: hmm... k.  lemme finish the latest update and try again...02:03
junkiehm i have an idea02:05
junkiedoes anyone know what 'lvm' means?02:05
ardchoillejunkie: Linux Virtual Machine02:05
NickPrestajunkie, or Linux Volume Management, I believe02:06
ardchoilleNickPresta: Ah, good catch02:06
junkieHm02:06
NickPrestaLogical Volume Manager, actually. :)02:06
junkieHow do i mark a partition as not hidden in fdisk?02:06
geniijunkie: You mean a hidden ntfs?02:09
bazhangos x02:09
bazhanghfs+ that is02:09
junkieyea i found a thread on the ubuntuforums that said that someone had a similar problem and unhiding the hfs+ parition did the trick02:10
junkieand taking away the 'lvm' mark02:10
junkiehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2585601&postcount=1902:10
alirionecesito ayuda urgente02:12
Minataku!es02:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:12
aliriogracias02:12
Cyclopesi have a couple of network interfaces that i want to remove, although there is nothing about them in /etc/network/interfaces , is there anywhere else i should look for?02:13
junkieSo, i need to know how to take off the hidden flag02:14
junkieany ideas?02:14
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stuffcorpsehi, in kde4rc2 i locked my session but my password doesnt not seem to work in unlocking. does anyone have this problem?02:17
DaSkreech!info seamonkey hardy02:22
ubotuseamonkey: The Seamonkey Internet Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 92 kB02:22
junkieokay something02:23
junkiei did 'fdisk /dev/sda'02:24
junkiethen did 't'02:24
junkieand seletected the os x partition02:24
junkiebut what system would it be?02:24
junkiei don't see hfs+02:24
mschiff_is it a known bug that the startkde script in kde4rc2 packages sets VARs before the shee bang?02:24
junkieanyone?02:25
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maduserwhat?02:26
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mjuseh i need some help02:26
maduserwith what?02:26
mjusmy kubuntu doesn`t mount my usb pendrives02:27
maduserhmm02:27
maduserpendrives?02:27
maduserlike removable flash drives?02:28
mjuswhen i joint my usb kde show system dialogue(kde daemom)  but when i choose open a new window for watch my usb it doesn`t open02:28
maduserwhat kind of usb is this?02:29
mjusis a marvision02:29
maduserdoes it have u3?02:29
mjusbut when i install kubuntu it worked very good, but now i dont know what happened02:29
mjussomebody knows how can i fix it problem???02:30
maduserdoes the drive have the U3 program on it?02:30
sfearswhat program are you using to view your usb drive?02:31
mjusactually i dont know02:31
maduserdoes it say u3 some where on the case?02:31
mjuswhat is u3?02:31
maduserit a progam that interfers02:32
madusermade for windows02:32
mjusmmm i dont know02:32
mjusonly show the dialogue but dont made nothing action for instance show files in a new window02:33
maduserwhy di all my google pages apear in spanish when i look up  marvision02:33
maduserwhats the model name?02:34
sfearsmjus what program are you using to view your usb drive.. trying to use to view your usb drive?02:34
mjusi dont know i only know that always shown a window with options(named kde daemon)02:35
sfearsthere's no usb icon that shows up on your desktop?02:36
mjusno02:36
mjusdont show nothing usb in the desktop02:36
kenpachicomo puedo desactivar el ipv602:36
fulat2klimac: darn, still nothing.  can't even resize teh icons for Pnale.02:36
fulat2kPanel02:36
mjusbefore show an icon but now no02:36
maduser!es02:36
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:36
mjusbefore show an icon but now no02:36
sfearsat a command promt type "ls /home/(your user name)/media" and tell me what's in there02:36
limacsrry dude that's all I got!02:37
sfearsmake sure your usb device is plugged in02:37
kenpachigracias02:37
limacsee ya!02:37
sfearslater02:37
mjusyes is plugged02:37
sfearsls /home/user name/media02:37
mjusdoent`exist the directory02:38
sfearssorry..02:38
sfearsls /media02:38
mjuscdrom  cdrom0  sda1  usb  usb0  usb1  usb2  usb3  usb4  usb5  usb6  usb702:39
sfearshow many usb devices do you have plugged in?02:39
mjus102:39
sfears!pastebin02:39
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:39
mjus???????02:39
sfearsuse that pastebin site to list your fstab file.. from command "cat /etc/fstab" & paste to that site02:39
madusercertain divices have programs on them these programs can interfier with thier use, what is the model name of the drive?02:40
mjusit isnt the problem maduser becoiuse i had used my usb before and had`nt problem02:41
maduserok02:41
mjus# /etc/fstab: static file system information.02:41
maduseron kubuntu?02:42
mjus#02:42
mjus# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>02:42
mjusproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdc2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:42
mjus/dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       002:42
mjusyes02:42
sfearsno... use !pastebin02:42
sfears!pastebin02:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:42
mjus!pastebin02:42
mjus!pastebin02:42
mjus# /etc/fstab: static file system information.02:42
mjus#02:42
mjus# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>02:42
mjusproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdc2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:42
mjus/dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       002:42
mjus/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       002:42
DragnslcrStrike 202:42
DaSkreech!paste | mjus02:42
ubotumjus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:42
DaSkreechmjus: Do NOT paste here02:43
mjusthen???02:43
DaSkreechgo to that website and paste there. then give us the resulting URL02:43
mjusok02:44
mjushttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48036/02:44
DaSkreechmjus: Thank you ;)02:44
draikHello all02:45
draikHow do I keep the router IP and my IP address in Network Manager?02:46
fulat2kdraik: use static ip.02:46
draikEverytime I boot, I have to enter the router IP along with the configuration of my IP02:46
draikfulat2k: I do, but it keeps "forgetting" my router IP02:46
draikI don't have 'net access when I login02:46
mjussfears some idea?02:47
sfearsohh.. my bad.. let me look02:47
sfearsi'm wondering why you have so many usb devices listed in your /media folder02:48
mjusi dont know02:48
fulat2kdraik: uhh... where do u set ur router IP?02:48
sfearsopen konqueror.. naviage to /media.. right click on those usb devices & see if there's an unmount or eject option02:49
sfearsif there is unmount all of them02:49
sfearsonly the usb devices02:49
mjusok02:49
mjusno nithing02:50
mjusall are directories02:50
sfearsare any of them your usb drive02:50
mjusno02:50
refreshrateill install firefox, and itll work for a couple reboots, but then i get a bus error, i reinstall firefox and itll work again for a couple reboots. what gives?02:50
sfearsare you 100% sure you don't have any other usb devices plugged in.. printer/modem/camera?02:52
draikWhy am I losing my router's IP address after every boot?02:53
sfearsare you hard wired to it draik?02:53
sfearsor are you using wireless?02:53
draiksfears: hard wire02:53
sfearswhat do you have to do to connect?02:53
draiksfears: Enter the router IP, disable ethernet device and then enable it again to get an IP02:54
sfearsand you pay extra to your ISP to have a static IP?02:55
sfearsyou normally don't need to specify an IP.. it assigns automatically02:55
sfearsit's called a dynamic IP02:55
draiksfears: It's not static.02:55
sfearsalright.. then you can proally skip the specify IP part02:55
sfearsyou just need to tell your computer to optain automatically.. and let it know to connect.. should be able to set any of that in knetwork manager?02:56
draiksfears: Ok, but how do I make it stop forgetting my router IP?02:56
sfearsdo you have knetwork manager install02:56
draikYes02:56
sfearsit doesn't matter if it forgets.. you just need to tell it to grab one when you boot up02:56
sfearsit may always be different.. so if it forgets it's ok.. it will just obtain a new one02:57
draikHow do I make it obtain an IP when I boot?02:57
draikThat's the issue02:57
sfearsi'm looking02:57
sfearsright click on your knetwork manager icon & manual config02:58
draikOk02:58
sfearsin the network interfaces tab highlight your connection eth0 or wlan2 or whatever it happens to be.. & configure interface02:59
draikOk02:59
sfearsset tcp/ip to auto make sure dhcp is selected in the drop down & make sure activate when computer starts is checked02:59
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draik10-403:00
sfearstry that and see what happens.. should work just like that03:01
sfearsmight as well power cycle your modem & router while you reboot03:01
tomas_after installing l KDE 4 RC 2, when I try to login in the first time I get the following error "(process:13616): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or set03:02
tomas_gid.03:02
tomas_".  Does anyone have any suggestions as to what might be the problem?" thanks.03:02
draiksfears: Thank you. It works03:05
sfearskick ass03:05
sfearsyour welcome03:05
sfearstomas_.. ctrl+alt+f1 to terminal and type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" that will ask you a couple of questions about your video, mouse & keyboard hardware.. answer the best you can.. when it asks about the video driver pick vesa and when it gets to resolution settings pick 800x600 or 1024x768.. it may be a video driver conflit.. those settings are very basic03:07
sfearsthe vesa @ 800x600 are very basic settings03:08
sfearsyou may lose some of your advanced hardware effects but at least you may be able to boot into your system03:08
sfearsadvanced video hardware effects*03:08
tomas_thanks sfears.  I'll try that.03:09
sfearsno prob03:09
jalberthey everybody03:12
jalbertI'm psyched03:12
sfearshello jalbert03:12
sfearspsyched about what?03:12
jalbertI just made a Skype call on my Kubuntu laptop03:12
sfearsnice.. worked well?03:12
jalbertyeah03:12
jalbertworked great03:12
jalbertbetter than it ever did on Windows03:12
sfearsi've been thinking about getting some kind of voip account.. haven't quite made up my mind yet03:13
sfearswhat was better about it?03:13
jalbertthe person on the other end said I sounded good03:13
sfearssound quality?03:13
jalbertyeah03:13
sfearsyeah.. cool03:13
jalbertno breaking up, no lag03:13
jalbertno weird modulation distortion03:13
sfearsthat's surprising.. shouldn't make must of a difference.. might have a diffferent priority set on linux03:13
jalbertI wonder if they've upgraded their vocoder software or something03:14
sfearsyou can do the same thing on windows.. ctrl+alt+delete.. and from the processes tab right click on the skype process & set to highest priority.. might clear up your windows issue03:14
BluesKajprolly written on and using linux servers03:14
jalbertwell I think the AV software I was running probably had something to do with it03:14
jalbertthis is a 2.8 GHz P4 laptop03:15
sfearscould be a million things.. glad to hear it's working good though03:15
jalberthey is there an easy way to delete an erroneous mount-point?03:15
sfearsedit your /etc/fstab file03:16
jalbertdid that already03:16
jalbertI guess I'm going to have to look it over again03:16
jalbertmust have missed something03:16
sfearsdepends what you mean by mount point.. an actual mount point is a partition03:16
jalbertwell, I have an alias in a directory that points to the wrong place03:17
sfearsthe only way to delete a partition is to edit your partition tables.. if by mount point you mean a hard drive that shows up on your desktop.. then it's proally something you misssed in your fstab file03:17
jalbertit's actually the alias I have to get rid of03:17
sfearsthat might be a little different03:18
DragnslcrThe mount location is usually just a directory, isn't it?03:18
Dragnslcri.e. /media/whatever03:18
sfearsyeah.. but some directories are actually physical partitions03:18
DragnslcrSo you should be able to just rmdir /media/whatever03:18
sfearslike your /home folder.. is a physical location on your hard drive03:19
Dragnslcr(after you've unmounted the partition, of course)03:19
sfearsusually03:19
DragnslcrSort of03:19
sfearscorrect03:19
DragnslcrIt's actually the physical partition that's mounted to the location /home03:19
sfearsin the /home case it is03:19
DragnslcrYou could unmount it, delete /home, and mount the partition again at /house if you really wanted to03:20
DragnslcrStuff that looks for /home would break, of course, but that's a different issue03:20
sfearsnot sure on that one.. i think it's defined in the partition table.. so you might not be able to change the name.. i think that's basic how linux works kinda stuff.. has to have a /home folder to function03:20
lovedeatmim using gaim..is the anyway to have it sense a message that has been sent and have it react tot hat message. so for instance if someone said hey that woudl tell gaim to shutdown?03:21
DragnslcrWell, /home is a bad example because so much system stuff depends on it03:21
sfearspost your fstab file to pastebin if you want me to take a look at it.. i'll see if i see something in there03:21
DragnslcrAs far as I know, the mount location isn't stored in the partition at all03:21
sfearsas far as your alisa no it's not03:21
sfearsalias*03:22
DragnslcrIt's fstab and friends that define what directory the partition is mounted in03:22
sfears!pastebin03:22
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:22
sfearsfstab makes links from partitions to folders.. so you could load /home to /house.. but /home would still be there too03:24
lovedeatmim using gaim..is the anyway to have it sense a message that has been sent and have it react to that message. so for instance if someone said hey that woudl tell gaim to shutdown?03:30
DragnslcrThere may be some plugin that can execute commands based on incoming text03:31
DragnslcrMight want to try #pidgin or asking on their message board or mailing list03:31
Voyage__using firestarter. but it auto vanishes from sys tray. why.. its not runing i guess if its not in the tray.03:36
lovedeatmthanks03:42
bmk789how can i install grub from the liveCD to use my HD install again, grub gives an error 1703:44
Voyage__can any one please recomend an irc client most similer to mirc (thats used in windows) ?03:57
Tm_TVoyage__: perhaps ksirc03:58
Tm_Tor, X-chat03:58
Tm_Tor something else03:58
Voyage__Tm_T nop03:59
Tm_Tmeh04:00
Tm_T!irc04:00
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines04:00
Tm_TI'm only using irssi <304:00
coteyrok, so I am trying to get firefox to play nice with my media server. It provides a browser interface and a link to media. I want to llink to open in an external player not save to disk.04:04
coteyrmozilla some time ago used ot have options that let you say open with application and then had a checkbox for just passing the link to that app04:04
coteyrthats what I need, but I can't find that option any more, anyone know of an addon or something that can make that happen04:05
coteyr(for the record konqueror does it fine but can handel the extensive Javascript on the site ver well04:05
coteyr)04:05
coteyrjoin #mediatomb04:08
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deuryte21:5504:16
deuryteThe topic for #kubuntu is: Official Kubuntu support | Upgrade instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Offtopic in #kubuntu-offtopic please | KDE 4.0 RC2 Package & LiveCD https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KDE4-RC2 | Tutorials Day on Thursday https://wiki.kubuntu.org/K04:16
deurytesfears: right click on your knetwork manager icon & manual config04:16
deurytedraik: Ok04:16
lovedeatmany of you know any apps that are GUI and help ypu build and learn how to build oyu own plugins....and or wanna teach me how to..specificly for gaim04:23
biovorehttp://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins  <-- very bottom of the page04:25
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ubuntuis there a way of reading .exe files on linux?05:03
genii"reading"05:04
geniiYou mean you want to execute them like on a windows system?05:04
ubuntuyeyeye05:04
geniiubuntu: With the program wine some things will run, other things won't. You can always try it05:05
ubuntui got kubuntu 7.1005:05
ubuntuim new to using this05:05
geniiinstall wine from adept05:06
ubuntuso i dont really know anything05:06
geniieg: kmenu ... add and remove programs... in search panel put wine05:06
ubuntukk05:06
ubuntuthanks05:06
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geniiubuntu: If you don't find it there, instead open Konsole and type:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install wine05:08
geniiubuntu: Then after it installs... go to the exe you had got, right-click.Choose "open with wine windows emulator"05:09
geniietc05:09
ubuntukk05:10
ubuntuthanks alot05:10
ubuntuhwo you change kubuntu wallpaper?05:10
ubuntuare there themes?05:10
geniiubuntu: I'll be here a bit longer if you experience problems or have questions05:10
ubuntuleft click config?05:11
geniithemes and wallpapers are different questins05:11
genii*questions05:11
geniiubuntu: To change wallpaper, on open area of screen: rightclick...choose Configure Desktop05:11
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geniileftclick=normal button rightclick=other button05:12
Dr_willis_ya got the 'right' button then ya got the 'wrong' button. :)05:14
Dr_willis_'click the right mouse button' -- Wife "How do i know which one is the RIght one! You never told me which one was the right one!"05:14
Dr_willis_So i wrote a big L and R on the mouse buttons.05:15
Dr_willis_:P05:15
kaankeehi... can anyone tell me from where i can get the pljava installed for postgresql 8.2 in kubuntu05:15
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Daemon--anyone about? trying to install kubuntu on a vm and it says my CPU doesnt support long mode please use a 32bit distribution, whats long mode?05:20
Dr_willis_You are trying to install the 64bit ubuntu on a virtual machine thats set up to be a 32bit vm perhaps?05:21
Daemon--right, thats a microsoft thing then05:22
* Dr_willis_ missed where this has to do with microsoft at all...05:22
Daemon--microsoft virtual pc im using05:23
genii_Bah got booted05:24
Dr_willis_THeres also vmware and virtual box you could be using...05:24
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Dr_willis_Im still not sure they can emulate a 64bit cpu on a 32bit machine..  Never really tried it. :)05:25
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Daemon--im on a x64 bit machine buddy05:25
Dr_willis_are you running the 64bit version of windows?05:26
Daemon--yeah xp x6405:26
Dr_willis_sounds like a bug in ms's virtual pc then to me. File a Bug report. :)05:27
Dr_willis_Im guessing they are using the term Long mode for 64bit addressing - Heck they could be refering to somthing totally unlreated, ms is good about taht05:28
Daemon--wel doesnt give you the option buddy05:28
Dr_willis_You may want to check out Vmware or Virtual box then.   Im not even sure they have 64bit versions either.05:29
Dr_willis_Virtual box does.. :) i just looked.05:29
Daemon--vmware works yeah but im only playing with it, downloading the i386 version now05:30
Daemon--infact its just finnished05:30
Dr_willis_I tend to have linux run the virtual machines :) and run windows inside the vm's05:31
Daemon--i386 version is working05:32
Daemon--im just testing it before i move over to linux fully05:32
Dr_willis_I mainly use the various vm's to test out live cd iso's :) saves me burning disks05:33
lgasiiihello05:35
Dr_willis_Howdy05:41
* Dr_willis_ wonders how fast in theory a external USB DVD burner can burn at.. 8x? 16x faster?05:42
Dr_willis_usb2 of course. :)05:42
Law506Hi, fresh install of Kubuntu and when I try to run Adeptic Package Manager it keeps telling me something else is using it?  Even after a restart it gives me this.05:56
Dr_willis_!fixadept05:57
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:57
geniior close the update manager05:57
Dr_willis_yes. be sure all other programs using the package systems are closed05:57
Law506alright, I will do, thanks05:58
geniiDr_willis_: btw my 8x external usb burner is limited to 2x because auto speed detection over the usb doesn't work05:58
Dr_willis_This one seems to be doing 16x from what k3b is saying.. I was impressed it could do that.05:59
geniiinteresting06:00
Dr_willis_I built a external dvd burner today from a case and spare dvd burner i had. :)06:00
Dr_willis_k3b may be lieing I guess. :)06:00
Dr_willis_3 min and its like 1/3 the way done on a 4.4 gb disk06:00
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Dr_willis_I do notice the device buffer going from 99% then down and down then down to 10% - then back up.. :)06:01
geniiDr_willis_: googling tells me due to chipset in my enclosure is why no speed detection06:11
Dr_willis_bummer. :()06:14
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kaankeeis ./configure present in kubuntu.... when i type it it is sayin no such file exists06:35
ardchoillekaankee: ./configure simply tells the system to run the configure script located in the directory you are currently in.. it's not an app06:36
kaankeek... thanks a lot... i am new to linux... thanks for helping me06:36
ardchoillekaankee: What are you attempting to configure/compile?06:37
kaankeepostgresql 8.206:37
K`zanHo folks, what is the preferred method for getting the nvidia proprietary drivers installed?06:38
Tm_T!nvidia | K`zan06:38
ubotuK`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:38
K`zanDownload and install them that way, if so I seem to be missing libc06:38
ardchoillekaankee: Are you aware that postgresql-8.2 is in the repos?06:38
K`zanTm_T: Checking now, thanks!06:38
ardchoille!info postgresql-8.206:38
ubotupostgresql-8.2: object-relational SQL database, version 8.2 server. In component main, is optional. Version 8.2.5-1.1 (gutsy), package size 3173 kB, installed size 11828 kB06:38
K`zanTm_T: Thank you very much, quite painless :-).06:42
kaankeepostgresql is available in package manager ardchoille06:43
ardchoillekaankee: yes06:43
kaankeeya its available but i am not able to get pljava there06:44
xyvuoeuahow do I make konquerer the default for files ?06:53
xyvuoeuai think this dolphin thing is pathetic and im annoyed by it06:54
xyvuoeuaBYE DOLPHIN SUCKA06:56
xyvuoeuaapt-get remove dolphin06:56
Tm_T...06:56
malaysterhelo06:57
malaysterall06:57
malaysternice06:57
malaysteraa06:57
mrukushow can i open a folder as a root user06:57
mrukusthrough conqueror06:57
ardchoillemrukus: Be careful with that, one wrong move can mess up your system:  kdesudo konqueror /path/to/desired/folder06:58
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waltercool_Eeeuh... someone know why when i plug in the power cable to my laptop, kmail is opened??07:01
NevilleCoolness? =P07:03
waltercool_Eee:S07:03
mrukusno through the terminal though07:04
mrukusi want to paste a module to a file07:05
mrukusand it says access denied07:05
mrukusisn't there a way to open a folder as a root without using the terminal07:05
mrukusoh wait i see07:05
waltercool_Eeesomeone??07:07
Lynourewaltercool_Eee: no idea, sorry.07:08
mrukusboy does this stuff get frustrating07:08
mrukusi just got the system right when somthing happened and had to do a fresh install07:09
mrukusgetting the wireless to work was a shore last time and is even more so this time07:09
mrukusi always get error msgs and nothign ever turns out as planned07:09
Kveldulfwould someone like to help me with some stupid newbie probs?07:11
waltercool_EeeLynoure: oh, ty :)07:11
mrukuswhat does this error mean when i go to make a file07:13
mrukusmake: Nothing to be done for `all'.07:13
mrukusit worked like a couple of hours ago when i tried to make it07:13
nareshovmake sure you're in the right directory07:13
nareshovdo you see a Makefile in the working dir ?07:13
mrukusyup07:14
Kveldulfja ok i didnt really suppose so07:14
acee12345i added a partition through windows and it killed gnome error 17 any ideas n a fix . i have a live cd07:14
nareshovmrukus: you probably need to run `make clean` first then07:14
nareshovacee12345: did it touch any of the linux partitions?07:14
acee12345i dont think so07:14
mrukusyayy07:15
mrukusthanks,07:15
mrukuswhat did that do?07:15
nareshovmrukus: read the Makefile07:15
Kveldulflaterb then, thanks07:16
acee12345 nareshov: i dont thinkso07:16
acee12345 nareshov: ia there an easy way to reconfigure grub07:18
acee12345 nareshov: imeant to say grub not gnome07:18
nareshovusing a livecd07:18
acee12345 nareshov: im new to linux could you guide me a bit07:19
acee12345 nareshov: imbooting off the live cd now07:20
nareshovacee12345: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/07:20
acee12345 nareshov: thank you07:21
acee12345how to i figure out wich partition to use?07:22
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nareshovfdisk -l07:22
acee12345do the oartitions effect my input?07:25
acee12345partitions07:25
acee12345if so my system is dual boot do i just enter the second partition aswell in that case?07:27
milestonehi all07:27
milestonea question to the kde4-rc2 pkgs07:27
milestoneit says on the wiki that the packages will be availably on gutsy-backports07:27
milestonethe backports packages will also install under /usr/lib/kde4?07:28
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sigma_kubuntuacee12345: what do u mean?07:28
Tm_Tmilestone: yes07:28
milestoneTm_T: and they are also named kde4-...?07:28
Tm_Tmilestone: yes07:29
Tm_Tmilestone: pretty much same packages07:29
acee12345i dont know what to input the fdisk -l didnt show me a list of partitions or drives07:30
sigma_kubuntuhow is kontact in kde4? last time i checked all the icons were messed up07:30
sigma_kubuntuacee12345: use qparted07:31
acee12345command not found07:32
nareshovI've heard that kopete will finally support HTTP proxy in KDE 4.107:34
sigma_kubuntuits a program u must install07:34
milestoneTm_T: how stable is kde4?07:34
nareshovmilestone: it's rc2 right now and it most apps don't start on my amd64 installation07:34
milestoneright now i have installed kde4-rc1 and set re-set the kde home directory07:34
Tm_Tmilestone: depends, in my use it doesn't crash, is that stable? I don't know07:34
milestonewell it looks great07:35
Tm_Tbut I'm not "end-user" so...07:35
acee12345 sigma_kubuntu: qparted doesnt activate through console07:35
milestonei am a gnome user and anxious to really use it07:35
nareshovsudo qparted07:35
nareshovmilestone: me too :P07:35
milestonebecause i really think that you can be more productive with kde but IMHO gnome still "looks" nicer07:35
acee12345 sigma_kubuntu: an all root([hd],[part]) i try get a "unrecognised command responce07:35
acee12345reinstall kubuntu?07:36
milestonecompared to kde 3.5.807:36
nareshovacee12345: tell me the partition number corresponding to type 83 in `fdisk -l`07:36
NevilleI'm off to play with my first ever SATA hard disk07:37
NevilleWish me luck =]07:37
emilsedghmilestone: well, kde default settings suck, but if you customize it, it will look much better07:37
acee12345nareshov: "sudo" was needed to display07:37
nareshovtrue07:37
acee12345nareshov: type "83" where?07:38
nareshovmilestone: run kersonalizer and choose OSX and you're in for a surprise :D07:38
Tm_Tmilestone: hmm, look, interesting, have you seen something like this? http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png07:38
nareshovacee12345: Id07:38
Tm_Tnareshov: nownow, no need to cursing07:38
acee12345nareshov: under id 83 is /dev/sda707:38
nareshovTm_T: :D07:38
milestoneemilsedgh: persuade me07:38
nareshovacee12345: in the grub> prompt07:39
nareshovtype root (hd0,6)07:39
Tm_Tmilestone: btw feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic07:39
nareshovand then 'setup (hd0)'07:39
nareshovand 'quit'07:39
waltercool_Eeeexist a method to trace what open me an app??07:40
milestoneTm_T: ahh right ;)07:40
acee12345nareshov: ok will this enable windows aswell?07:40
apparle-do I need an antivirus? I have dualboot Windows and a good antivirus on wndows. Also I donot have internet connection07:40
apparlewaltercool_Eee: what??07:40
nareshovacee12345: not unless you add an entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst07:41
acee12345nareshov: how do i do that07:41
sub[t]rnlapparle: You wont need an anti virus for linux07:41
nareshovacee12345: do that fdisk -l thing again and look for the partition number corresponding to your windows installation07:41
waltercool_Eeeapparle: when i plug the power cable, kmail is opened, i want know what opens kmail and how disable it07:42
emilsedghmilestone: well, i cant, you should get it yourself07:42
acee12345nareshov: dev/sda1 so "root (hd0,1)"?07:42
apparlenareshov: I think somehting like update-grub which will do everything07:42
nareshovno, (hd0,0)07:42
acee12345ok07:42
nareshovapparle: not sure07:42
waltercool_Eeeapparle: some idea?07:42
nareshovacee12345: you need an entry like:07:43
nareshovin /boot/grub/menu.lst07:43
nareshovtitle        Windows something07:43
nareshovroot        (hd0,0)07:43
nareshovchainloader +107:43
nareshov:wq07:43
apparlewaltercool_Eee: do you shutdown the computer with Kmail running07:44
waltercool_Eeeapparle: im in a laptop xD07:45
milestoneemilsedgh: :)07:45
acee12345nareshov: ok working great again thank you07:45
waltercool_Eeeapparle: but nvm, i have fixed now that (i have remove a lot of packages and reinstall... and works... :P)07:45
sigmais it illegal to use the kubuntu logo on my website?07:46
apparlewhen I run command lne at grub menu what is the command to boot linux07:47
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nareshovapparle: you got the command line via "c" ?07:48
apparlenareshov: ya07:48
nareshovhmm, something like "root (hd0,<TAB> should show you something07:49
apparlesigma: maybe. See the t&c07:49
nareshovchoose the right one (number) and complete it - say, (hd0,2)07:49
nareshovand then do "kernel /boot/<TAB>" - select the right one07:50
nareshovand then the same thing with "initrd /boot/<TAB>"07:50
nareshovand boot07:50
apparlenareshov: what do you mean by "and boot"07:51
nareshovlike, press "b" ?07:51
apparlenareshov: ok thanks07:52
mrukusim sooo close07:52
mrukusno i get this error07:52
mrukusmrukus@mrukus-laptop:~/ar5007eg-32-0.2/ar5007eg$ sudo ndiswrapper _i net5211.inf07:53
mrukussudo: ndiswrapper: command not found07:53
nareshovheh07:53
nareshovis it installed?07:53
mrukusit says its not07:53
mrukusand then i run the command it says to install it07:53
mrukusthen it says the newest version of ndiswrapper-common is already installed07:53
nareshovhmm07:54
apparleanybody here uses Kdevelop07:54
mrukusif i just type ndiswrapper into the terminal, it says07:54
mrukusThe program 'ndiswrapper' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:07:54
mrukussudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common07:54
mrukusbash: ndiswrapper: command not found07:54
mrukusso i run that line07:54
nareshovhmm07:54
apparleanybody uses kdevelop??07:54
nareshovlooks like a bug :}07:55
mrukusndiswrapper-common is already the newest version.07:55
mrukus0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 148 not upgraded.07:55
mrukushow do i fix it?07:55
nareshov(not upgrading?)07:55
mrukushow do i find an older version07:55
apparlemrukus: IMHO do one thing remove it from adept and then install it07:56
apparlehow to fix this error.I get it while configuring source codes "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!07:57
apparle"07:57
mrukushow do i remove it from the system?07:57
mrukuswill synaptic do that for me?07:57
nareshovapparle: you probably need xserver-xorg-dev installed07:58
nareshovor xorg-dev07:58
apparlenareshov: I have it installed07:58
nareshovhmm07:58
apparlenareshov: tell mrukus the command I am new to CLI07:59
sub[t]rnlmrukus: sudo apt-get remove (sudo apt-get --purge remove to remove configuration files as well)07:59
nareshovapparle: what are you trying to do? why do you need the X libs ?08:00
apparlehow to fix this error.I get it while configuring source codes "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"08:00
apparlenareshov: Iam trying to develop a gui using Kdevelop designer and get this error08:04
nareshovah08:04
emilsedghapparle: you should install xorg dev package08:05
emilsedghapparle: i think thats xlibs-dev or something like this08:05
nareshovxorg-dev should install the whole thing, right?08:05
apparleemilsedgh: tell me the complete name. xlibs-dev does not exist for gutsy08:05
nareshovapparle: try xorg-dev, I think you only have xserver-xorg-dev08:06
apparlebye everyone08:06
emilsedghapparle: thats xorg-dev08:06
TheFishywhat is the the "Lost & Found" start up menu for?08:06
apparlethanks everyone08:06
emilsedghapparle: also you need kde headers08:06
Assidanyone played with kde4 ?08:06
nareshovTheFishy: lost & found apps :D08:06
emilsedghAssid: sure08:06
TheFishyexplain how an APP is lost08:06
nareshovthose which don't have a proper XDG menu entry, for example?08:07
Assidemilsedgh: hows it ?08:07
user___how far is kde4 ? i have been without net for a while08:07
emilsedghAssid: for a Major release, good.08:07
nareshovuser__ rc2 came out a couple of days ago08:07
Assiduser___: rc208:07
user___cool so it will be finale when i get back to the civiliced world :)08:08
nareshovheh08:08
Assidemilsedgh: i actually got ubuntu installed instaled of kubuntu on my lappy08:08
Assidany difference if i just apt-get install it ?08:08
nareshovwhich unciviliced part of the world are you in ? :D08:08
nareshovAssid: you want to remove gnome and install jde ?08:09
nareshovkde*08:09
emilsedghAssid: install what? kde4? yes, but for testing use apt-get08:09
emilsedghAssid: to install kubuntu back, just install kubuntu-desktop08:09
Assidnareshov: nah, i can use gdm to choose what to go into08:09
user___nareshov: traveling laos at the moment by bike ...08:10
nareshovuser___: woah08:10
Assidsomehow my ati +compiz behaves better under ubuntu08:10
PishtJust a question, I have an older kubuntu on disk, does it update to what is currently released or do I need to DL the new version from the site and burn to disk again?08:10
nareshovPisht: how old?08:10
PishtI'm not sure, older than the current version08:10
PishtI'll have to check, i'm just setting up the PC again which has it on.08:11
Pishti need to find a 2nd keyboard or this will get ugly08:11
nareshovheh08:11
Pishtugh i don't think i have one08:11
ardchoillePisht: Open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a | grep -i release08:11
Pishtyep yep 1 sec08:11
Assidi think i will dl the livecd and play with that first08:12
Assidbrb.. changing networks08:13
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Assidback08:15
Assidso anwyays.. will play with kde408:16
emilsedghAssid: have fun!08:16
Assidi really wanna move my windows machine away onto linux08:16
Assidstupid microsoft has issues reading ram over 1gb i think08:16
sigmai need to find sum1 to steal the new kde4 cd from08:17
atwook08:17
atwowhat was that command?08:17
atwo< Pisht08:18
ardchoilleatwo: Open a terminal and type: lsb_release -a | grep -i release08:18
atwoterminal = run command?08:18
nareshovatwo: in a terminal08:18
atwoyep 1 sec08:18
atwots08:19
atwo7.0408:19
atwolol isn that the latest08:19
ardchoilleatwo: Ok, upgrading isn't going to be hard for you08:19
atwosweet08:19
atwobut08:19
ardchoille!upgrade | atwo08:19
ubotuatwo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes08:19
atwoiḿ going to reinstall linux on here08:19
atwobecause i fucked x last time trying to make it work on widescreen08:19
ardchoilleatwo: 7.04 is Feisty08:19
atwobut this is a 19inch widescreen08:19
atwoand it looks all shitty08:19
atwoi didn want it 19"widescreen08:20
ardchoille!language | atwo08:20
ubotuatwo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.08:20
atwothe  ad didn say it08:20
nareshovgutsy works fine on a 19" WS08:20
atwoi thought it wasn08:20
atwook08:20
atwonow08:20
atwoi am just going to reinstall the OS08:20
atwothis version is ok to upgrade from then?08:20
nareshovyes08:20
atwook cool08:20
atwoiĺl jump to the other pc08:20
atwowhile in reinstall08:20
ardchoilleatwo: Are you going to upgrade or reinstall?08:20
atworeinstall08:20
atwoafter a format08:20
ardchoilleThen don't worry about upgrading08:21
nareshovheh08:21
atwoo.o08:21
atwoim giong to reinstall from the old disc though08:21
nareshov:O08:21
atwoor can i format and install frmo a downloaded one?08:21
ardchoilleatwo: ah, then upgrade? ok08:21
atwolol08:21
atwo:>08:21
atwothanks for your help atm08:21
ardchoilleatwo: You can download the current release and install from that, it will save you a lot of work08:21
ardchoilleSince you're going to reinstall anyway08:22
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ardchoillePisht: You can download the current release and install from that, it will save you a lot of time and work since you're going to reinstall anyway08:23
atwo1hmm08:23
atwo1how big is the DL?08:23
ardchoilleless than 700Mb, fits on a cd08:24
atwo1ok i can dl on the linux box and format + install from the downloaded file?08:24
ardchoilleatwo: I think it's quicker if you use a torrent08:24
atwo1hm08:24
atwo1im on pretty quick net08:24
atwo1wont take long08:24
ardchoilleatwo: download, burn to cd, boot from the cd, install08:25
Daisuke_Idouh, you need to burn the cd first08:25
Daisuke_Idoyeah08:25
atwo1ok i'll dl from here then luls08:25
ardchoilleatwo: back up any personal files first so you don't lose them08:25
atwo1thers not much on the other pc08:25
atwo1i just ruined x and want to start fresh with the new version08:25
atwo1well i didnt ruin it08:25
atwo1but im being very anal08:26
atwo1and want a clean install08:26
ardchoilleThat'll do it08:26
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atwo1:>08:26
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i get rid of gnome08:26
ardchoilleatwo: Oh, and come back here for help if needed, this is one of the best support avenues for kubuntu :)08:26
se7enso i am back in the lao jungle cu and by the way pendirvelinux is cool ...08:27
atwo1yes i know08:27
ardchoille!puregnome08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about puregnome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:27
atwo1i had heaps of help here the first time08:27
Jay-Oh-Enand how do i get kde window manager back08:27
ardchoille!purekde08:27
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »08:27
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: ^^08:27
Jay-Oh-Enthanks08:27
atwo1http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/gutsy/08:27
atwo1which one do i get08:27
ardchoilleatwo: If you have a regular pc, get the kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso08:28
ardchoilleatwo: and get the MD5SUMS file and checksum the iso before burning08:29
atwo1say wut08:29
atwo1o.o08:29
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille:08:29
Jay-Oh-EnE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:29
Jay-Oh-EnE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:29
Jay-Oh-Enit keeps saying that08:29
ardchoilleatwo: Grab the MD5SUMS and check the iso's md5sum against the MD5SUMS list before burning, will save you from making a coaster in case the download was corrupted08:30
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: You got any other package managers open/running?08:30
Jay-Oh-Enno08:30
atwo1thought that's what you meant08:30
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Did adept crash?08:30
Jay-Oh-Enno08:30
Jay-Oh-Eni did aptitude08:31
Jay-Oh-Enin terminal08:31
ardchoille!adeptfix | Jay-Oh-En08:31
ubotuJay-Oh-En: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:31
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille:08:31
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille: is that how i fix it?08:32
ardchoilleyes08:32
atwo1i wish there was a 24 hour keyboard store08:34
nuxihi all. can anyone tell me how i can install perl Net::Pcap module without using CPAN ?08:37
atwo1!cpan08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cpan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:37
atwo1!pcap08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi08:38
atwo1im all out08:38
nuxiwithout CPAN08:38
ardchoille!flash | nareshov08:41
ubotunareshov: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash08:41
nuxii tryed installing the Pcap.pm file manualy in the perl lib dir.. but that dident work.. i always get an error about Net:Pcap not found in @INC08:41
nuxiso anyone got an idea how i can get it installed ?08:42
atwo1ok08:43
atwo1just burning 7.10 now08:43
LocksmQuestion: so im dling kubuntu just for testing purpuses, and ive noticed that there is a livecd and a livedvd, would i be better off chosing the livedvd for the correct view on kubuntu ?08:43
elisianonuxi: how about "apt-get install libnet-pcap-perl" ?08:43
atwo1good Q08:43
nuxiwell.. use the dvd if you want all the pak's .. i think the cd is a mini version and is missing alot to tools and stuff.08:44
atwo1:o08:44
LocksmI mean, clearly there must be some difference since they got both a dvd, and a cd..08:44
nuxielisiano nothing is showing up08:44
ardchoillenuxi: The dvd is actually only a compilation of the desktop, server and alternate cd's08:45
Locksmthe dvd, is that also a live ?08:45
elisianoare you on gutsy nuxi ?08:46
nuxinop. feisty08:46
ardchoilleLocksm: The dvd boots you into a menu that gives you options to boot into the desktop, server or alternate cd environments08:46
ubuntuhey can someone help me with a boot problem?08:46
LocksmAh08:46
ubuntui get grub error 2208:46
Locksmbut the contenst on the desktop edition is the same as with the cd ?08:46
atwo1Locksm: the cd will include all versions08:47
atwo1..which i assume it is one of08:47
atwo1sorry the DVD*08:47
ardchoilleLocksm: The desktop cd is a livecd environment with an option to install to hard disk, the alternate and server cd's are text-based installers, not livecd environemnts08:47
nuxielisiano. what kind of repo is that file in?  main universe or restricted ?08:47
elisianoi don't have a feisty around to see if the package is in the repositories, but u could still try with cpan08:47
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elisianoit's in main08:47
elisianoin gutsy08:48
nuxiok.. its not in feisty..08:48
ardchoilleelisiano: You can check that here in the channel:08:48
Locksmok, so basicly if i use the livecd for install, i would see the same options as selecting the dvd desktop install ?08:48
ardchoille!info kid308:48
ubotukid3: KDE MP3 ID3 tag editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 320 kB, installed size 1092 kB08:48
nuxiso i guess i have to dl it from somewere then08:48
ardchoilleLocksm: yes08:48
Locksmok08:48
Locksmthen there is no need for the dvd download :D thx! then i get to test kubuntu now :D08:48
nuxi!libnet-pcap-perl08:49
ubuntucan someone help me with a boot problem? :D08:49
elisiano!info libnet-pcap-perl08:49
ubotulibnet-pcap-perl: Pcap interface for perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.04-3 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 232 kB08:49
elisianoouch08:49
elisianouniverse08:49
ardchoilleelisiano: Are you on fiesty?08:49
elisianothanks ardchoille08:50
elisianono I'm in gutsy08:50
Saagarhi am facing some probs in upgrading my RAM to 1GB.Currently am using 512MB .Can anybody help me?Everything else works but certain sites are not accessible.08:50
ardchoilleok08:50
elisianonuxi (who needs the package) is on feisty08:50
ardchoille!info libnet-pcap-perl feisty08:50
bdgrauewhere does plasma write, what widget are enabled? one pager is lost behind the taskbar :(08:50
ubotulibnet-pcap-perl: Pcap interface for perl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.04-3 (feisty), package size 30 kB, installed size 232 kB08:50
elisianoso he just needs to add universe to repos?08:50
ardchoilleyes08:51
elisianogot it nuxi?08:51
ardchoilleSaagar: I may be wrong, but I don't think that is a ram issue08:51
ubuntucan someone tell me why im getting grub error 22? ive got Xp/kubuntu dual boot08:51
Daisuke_Idobdgraue: "zoom out"08:51
Saagarthen wht else it could be ardchoille? other distro works fine in the same machine08:51
nuxiyes08:51
* nareshov is away: Gone away for now.08:52
ardchoilleSaagar: It sounds like a IPV6 issue08:52
bdgraueDaisuke_Ido: how to do that?08:52
ardchoilleubuntu: Tried this?  http://www.google.com/search?q=%22grub+error+22%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-808:52
Daisuke_Idobdgraue: in the upper right where the widget controls are, there's a "zoom out" button08:52
ardchoille!ipv608:53
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:53
Saagarcan u detail me on that ardchoille?08:53
ardchoilleSaagar: ^^08:53
ubuntuyeh i have, they keep saying to run XP's fixmbr08:53
Saagarthnx08:53
ardchoilleSaagar: I disabled ipv6 and lots of web issues went away08:53
ubuntubut i actually want grub loader to work, not xp's loader08:53
ardchoilleubuntu: Did you install kubuntu and then windows after that?08:53
ubuntunop08:53
bdgraueDaisuke_Ido: thank a lot, you made my day :)08:53
ubuntuwindows then kubuntu08:53
Saagarno08:53
Saagarwin then kubuntu08:54
ardchoille!grub | ubuntu08:54
ubotuubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:54
ubuntuboth on completely different harddrives if that makes a difference08:54
Daisuke_Idobdgraue: you're welcome :)08:54
ubuntuim running the kubuntu livecd now, isn't there a way to reinstall grub properly? :)08:56
Tm_T!grub08:56
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:56
ardchoilleubuntu: Those links have howto's08:56
Tm_Tardchoille: thanks :)08:56
atwo1ardchoille: wut a legend :>08:57
atwo1snapping out resolutions like a gattling gun08:57
ubuntuah thanks =D08:57
Jay-Oh-Enwhere is trash located like in its url /trash/08:59
Jay-Oh-Enor trash/:08:59
ardchoille:)08:59
emilsedghJay-Oh-En: i think ~/.trash or something like this09:00
Jay-Oh-Enemilsedgh: ill try09:01
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emilsedghJay-Oh-En: ~/.local/share/Trash09:01
emilsedghJay-Oh-En: thats it09:01
Jay-Oh-Enill try that09:02
atwo1how do i change resolution09:04
atwo1where's that option09:04
atwo1i mean09:04
atwo1program thingy09:04
atwo1n/m09:04
atwo1getting into swing again09:04
atwo1screen is half off the screen09:04
icewater1angrub-md5-crypt fails with "grub: asmstub.c:170: grub_stage2: Assertion `ret == 0' failed." on several boxes. is that a bug?09:05
icewater1anmeaning does it work for anyone else09:05
Daemon--trying to install kubuntu from a vm but everytime it reboots the login screen is messed up like the video card drivers dont work. Any idea's ?09:12
ubuntu!grub | ubuntu09:12
ubuntueh :/09:12
sub[t]rnlDaemon--: have you tried installing with safe graphics mode?09:12
Daemon--no buddy, is that an option at the beginning?09:13
sub[t]rnloff the installation cd, yeah09:13
Daemon--yeah thanks09:13
atwo1what's a vm09:14
atwo1cause mine looks all shitted too09:14
atwo1but it's installing anyway09:14
Daemon--virtual machine09:14
atwo1oh im installin from disc09:14
Daemon--me too09:14
atwo1its mong graphical and the screen is half off the monitor09:14
Daemon--through a virtual machine09:14
Daemon--sub[t]rnl - ive got the inital mentu here but cant see an option for same graphics mode?09:14
sub[t]rnlsafe graphics mode, hrm, what options do you see09:15
Daemon--install in text mode, oem install (for manufacturers), install a command-line system, check cd for defects, rescue a broken system, memory test, boot from first hard disk and some F key options09:16
sub[t]rnlah, are you using the KDE4 RC2 live cd?09:17
Daemon--errm im using this one.... kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso  697.5M 16-Oct-200709:18
ardchoilleDaemon--: That is a text-based install cd, no live environment there09:19
sub[t]rnlic, you could go through the installation via text mode09:19
Daemon--sub[t]rnl - i do, the inistal install works, its when it reboots and tries to go into kubuntu for the first time. Looks like the login screen09:19
Daemon--looks all messed up09:20
Daemon--not sure if its something to do with the screen resolutions it asks me before i reboot. Not sure what i should be selecting because its a vm and not the propper size screen09:20
sub[t]rnljust the kdm login?, or the entire xwindows is messed up09:20
Daemon--well i cant get past the login because i cant see what im doing09:21
Daemon--any idea bud?09:23
sub[t]rnlhrm09:23
sub[t]rnlnot sure :/09:23
Daemon--do u understand what i mean? want me to take a screen shot?09:24
elisianou should analyze xorg.conf and check /var/log/Xorg.o.log09:24
elisianoprobably it's a viewport problem09:24
Daemon--how do i get to cli?09:24
elisianothe screen resolution is bigger than the real "window"09:25
elisianoDaemon--: CTRL + ALT + F209:25
Daemon--the window of the vm changes but its still withing the size of my personal desktop resolution09:26
atwo1yeah i just finished installnig and my desktop if halfway off the screen09:27
ardchoilleatwo1: Do you have an nvidia or ati video card in that box?09:27
Daemon--elisiano - what am i looking for in xorg.conf ?09:28
atwo1nvidia09:28
ardchoilleatwo1: Thought so. I had that same problem but it went away after I nstalled the nvidia drivers09:28
backupp!replacement09:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about replacement - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:28
backupp!photoshop09:28
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant09:28
atwo1geforce 550009:28
ardchoille!nvidia | atwo109:29
ubotuatwo1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:29
Daemon--atwo1 = its not there09:29
elisianoDaemon--: are you using vmware?09:29
atwo1wut09:30
backuppwhat's a php editor in kubuntu?09:30
backupp!php09:30
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)09:30
Daemon--no buddy, ms virtual pc09:30
elisiano:O09:30
bdgrauebackupp: kate :)09:30
ardchoillebackupp: Most people just use a good text editor, like kate09:30
elisianonever tried, but I guess there's a way to go full screen right?09:30
Daemon--yes im in it09:31
elisianoand still u don't see a login prompt?09:31
backupp!email09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about email - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi09:31
atwo1ugh09:31
atwo1how do i setup the internet09:31
ardchoillebackupp: Anything we can help with?09:31
atwo1it's on a router09:32
Jay-Oh-Enwhats a good video editing program09:32
Jay-Oh-En?09:32
Daemon--elisiano - yeah im in the login prompt09:32
Daemon--for the cli not for the gui09:32
atwo1do i have to put in a ip address in the default gateway for the routes tab09:32
bdgraueJay-Oh-En: avidemux09:32
elisianook login then and check the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:32
Jay-Oh-Enbdgraue: is that the name of the package?09:33
backuppardchoille: yeah how about any replacement for dreamweaver or frontpage for web designing?09:33
bdgraueJay-Oh-En: yes i think so09:33
Jay-Oh-Enthanks then :]09:33
Jay-Oh-Endo you know where i can get some nice hi def backgrounds?09:33
ardchoillebackupp: Quanta ?09:33
backuppok i try to install09:35
nareshovJay-Oh-En: desktop backgrounds?09:35
Daemon--elisiano - under the screen section, subsection "Display", the modes are 1680x1050 - 1024x768 and 800x60009:35
Daemon--these are what i selected in the setup09:35
Daemon--should i remove them and try without?09:35
Jay-Oh-Ennareshov: yes09:35
atwo1what do i put as default gateway09:36
nareshovhttp://del.icio.us/nareshov/wallpaper - the second link in there09:36
atwo1AGH09:37
atwo1i can't get the net to work through the router09:37
nareshovatwo1: what comp are you currently on?09:37
nareshovwindows?09:37
atwo1yes09:37
llutzatwo1: your routers ip09:37
atwo1im trying to config the pc with 7.10 on09:37
atwo1though09:37
nareshovatwo1: Start -> Run -> cmd09:38
nareshovtype ipconfig09:38
llutz^^ thats windows09:38
nareshovpress enter, note down the stuff and use it on the linux comp - of course with its own ip09:38
Jay-Oh-Ennareshov: like hi def 1280x102409:39
atwo1its not connecting to the net09:41
atwo1i remembe last time i had to add my ISP's nameserver address somewhere09:41
atwo1where would that go09:41
nareshovin /etc/resolv.conf09:41
atwo1ok i'm really new to this09:41
atwo1how do i get thar09:41
atwo1?09:42
nareshovAlt+F2 -> konsole (hit enter) -> # sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf09:42
nareshovand add lines like: nameserver <ip.1>09:42
nareshovnameserver <ip.2>09:42
atwo1# sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf09:42
nareshovyeah09:43
atwo1LOL09:43
atwo1wrong keyboard09:43
nareshovheh09:43
atwo1er09:43
atwo1wtf09:43
atwo1said cant be foudn09:43
nareshov:O09:43
nareshovwell, create one09:43
nareshov /etc/resolv.conf09:43
atwo1open with09:44
atwo1kate?09:44
nareshovanything09:44
atwo1where the fk is kate09:44
nareshovkate, nano, vim, emacs, gedit09:44
nareshovuse nano09:44
atwo1what do i type09:45
atwo1to make it open in something09:45
atwo1or whatever09:45
Jay-Oh-Enwhere can i get a hi def  1280x1024 background09:45
nareshovdid a konsole show up?09:45
elisianoDaemon--: try removing the first09:45
atwo1yer09:45
atwo1wait09:45
atwo1no09:45
nareshovtype 'sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf' in there09:45
atwo1i alt f2's09:45
nareshovtype konsole there09:45
elisianoand leave lower resolutions09:45
nareshovhit enter09:45
atwo1nothing happened09:46
nareshovJay-Oh-En: did you check all those 9 pages09:46
nareshovatwo1: are you running KDE or GNOME ?09:46
atwo1kubuntu09:46
Daemon--elisiano - im actually re-installing now, almost to the part where it asks me for my prefered screen resolutions, should i leave that blank? because it says it will always try for the highest possible if their all blank09:46
atwo17.1009:46
atwo1just installed09:46
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nareshovclick on the K-menu > System > Konsole09:46
atwo1ya09:47
elisianodon't leave it blank, specify a lower resolution09:47
elisianou have a wide screen right?09:47
Daemon--what do you recommend? my windows resolution is 1680x1050 x2 (dual monitor)09:47
atwo1?09:47
nareshovatwo1: do you see a konsole?09:48
atwo1nareshov: what now09:48
nareshovkonsole?09:48
atwo1im in there09:48
Jay-Oh-Ennareshov: i dont like all of those09:48
nareshov:O09:48
atwo1what now09:48
elisianoalso 1024x768 would be fine09:48
Daemon--elisiano - the ms virtual pc applications window keeps changing to whatever size is needed by the application running09:48
Daemon--ok i'll select that09:48
nareshovtype 'sudo nano -w /etc/resolv.conf'09:48
atwo1in the '09:49
atwo1or without09:49
nareshovwithout '09:49
elisianoit's a 4:3 windows but I don't think that's a problem for u09:49
atwo1ok09:49
atwo1done09:49
Daemon--elisiano - just 1024x768? no other?09:49
atwo1now its all weird looking09:49
atwo1oh wait im in that file09:49
atwo1what do i write09:49
nareshovatwo1: is there anything in there?09:49
atwo1no it's empty09:49
elisianoyes, no other, at least you know that it must choose only that09:49
nareshovhmm, type: nameserver ip-of-your-nameserver09:49
Daemon--elisiano - ok its installing the software now09:50
atwo1save now?09:50
atwo1and try to connect to net?09:50
Daemon--fingers crossed :)09:50
nareshovyeah09:50
atwo1how do i save it09:50
nareshovCtrl+O09:50
nareshovand Ctrl+X09:50
elisianoDaemon--: btw, I don't think a reinstall was necessary but I undestand you :)09:50
atwo1um09:50
atwo1now how do i make the net connect09:50
atwo1im in some KDE control module09:51
atwo1for the network09:51
Daemon--elisiano - yea maybe not but only takes 10 mins hehe, its a quick system09:51
Daemon--elisiano - pobably gonna end back up where i was though lol09:51
nareshovI just started using kubuntu a day ago :P09:51
atwo1:/09:51
nareshovatwo1: what does /sbin/ifconfig eth0 say on konsole09:51
nareshov?09:51
elisianoDaemon--: and it's wasted running such os lol09:51
elisiano:D09:51
Daemon--you mean kubuntu or windows?09:51
elisianowindows of course09:52
elisiano:D09:52
Daemon--hey if i can get this working im switching, thats the whole point of this?09:52
atwo1a whole heap of shit09:52
nareshovhehe09:52
atwo1?09:52
nareshovdo you see your ip there?09:52
Daemon--just hope it supports my hardware09:52
atwo1i see the IP i assigned to the computer yes09:52
Daemon--quadcore q6850 cpu09:52
nareshovatwo1: do you see the default route ip too?09:53
elisianoDaemon--: running a virtual machine is not the way to test if it supports your hw09:53
nareshovoh wait09:53
nareshovnot there09:53
nareshovin "route -n"09:53
atwo1i see one that is almost it09:53
elisianobecause, as it implies, it virtualizes hardware09:53
atwo1er09:53
atwo1what09:53
elisianounsell it parallelizes it like xen (which i doubt)09:53
atwo1um09:53
elisianounLess09:53
Daemon--elisiano - ahh good point, but still rather see if i like it before i make the big move09:53
atwo1there's one there but last digit is wrong09:53
nareshovlet me just figure out what kcontrol module handles the network settings >_>09:53
atwo1well i went into that thing ont he bottom right09:54
atwo1and went into manual09:54
atwo1and changed shit on eth009:54
nareshovok09:54
elisianoDaemon--: I agree, but still a dual boot would be better... anyway, first things firt, maybe after virtualizing it you'll pass to a dual boot system09:54
Daemon--wow, thats possible?09:54
nareshovatwo1: the "Routes" tab09:54
atwo1whats that shortcut to quickly restart?09:54
nareshovrestart the comp?09:54
atwo1never mind09:55
nareshovCtrl+Alt+Del worked I think09:55
atwo1i put the router IP in the default gateway09:55
nareshovk09:55
Daemon--ok the install is finnished, im ready to reboot, fingers crossed09:55
atwo1good luck09:55
Daemon--ta09:55
roamThe power manager shows an extra CPU with kernel 2.6.24rc5.09:55
atwo1do i have to manually edit the network interface09:56
atwo1or leave on auto09:56
nareshov:O09:56
Daemon--i love the loading screen09:56
nareshovatwo1: DHCP -> auto09:56
nareshovstatic ip -> manual09:56
nareshov(iirc)09:56
Linux_Galoreanyone know how to get kmail to stop dropping back into text mode when editing html09:56
Daemon--elisiano - its switched to some silly widescreen resolution and messed up again09:57
nareshovLinux_Galore: it should be possible to configure that, just look around in the settings/preferences09:57
elisianocan u tell your VM not to adjust its screen size?09:57
atwo1now how do i make it connect to the net09:57
Daemon--looking09:57
atwo1anyone tell me what the keyboard shortcut to reset x is09:57
nareshovCtrl+Alt+BackSpace09:58
atwo1i need to get the net working09:58
Linux_Galorenareshov: Ive looked though everything, nothing09:58
Linux_Galorethrough*09:58
atwo1nareshov: it changes the default gateway to 0.0.0.0 when i leave the network interface on auto09:59
atwo1i can't get it to connect argggh09:59
Daemon--elisiano - yeah i have 3 options, allow any screen resolution (this is what was previously set), use standard screen resolutions and use guest operating system screen resolution09:59
nareshovatwo1: do you use DHCP?10:00
atwo1what is it10:00
elisianotry using standard10:00
nareshovbah10:00
Daemon--ok10:00
elisianoand select 1024x76810:00
atwo1?10:00
nareshovdo you know what ip that comp is supposed to have?10:00
Daemon--elisiano - i cant select, just have those 3 options10:00
atwo1i know the range and i just pick any 2 last digits10:01
nareshovokay10:01
elisianok try that10:01
nareshovthat means you're manually setting it10:01
nareshovso don't do auto10:01
Daemon--booting10:01
nareshovdo manual and redo the whole thing10:01
nareshovip, route, nameservers10:01
Daemon--that didnt work10:01
atwo1ok i did10:02
atwo1now10:02
atwo1how do i make it try to connect10:02
nareshovit should be working10:02
nareshovif not then reboot10:02
atwo1i can't click 'switch to online mode'10:02
Daemon--elisiano - trying to make it use the guest os res now10:02
Daemon--nope :(10:03
nareshovare you in the administrator mode?10:03
atwo1LOL don't know10:04
atwo1its saving the shit tho10:04
Linux_Galoresigh, kmail must be the dumbest heap of crap Ive ever used, no html editing support10:04
llutzhtml-emails are crap10:05
Daemon--elisiano - this is whats happening >> http://www.daveaskew.com/pics/kubuntu.jpg10:05
atwo1yes im in aadmin mode10:05
atwo1and its not connecting10:05
atwo1still10:05
nareshovreboot10:05
Linux_Galorellutz: only if your a geek, in marketing all emails are in html10:05
atwo1i still can't switch to online mode10:05
atwo1i did reboot10:05
nareshovuse Evolution10:05
Linux_Galorenareshov: evolution is a heap of crap10:06
nareshovnot anymore10:06
llutzLinux_Galore: seems you are in the wrong business10:06
nareshovtry the latest one10:06
atwo1the light on my router10:06
atwo1is lit up10:06
nareshovit's - awesome, even I was surprised10:06
atwo1the router shows the network is connected this piece of shit comp wont connect but10:06
atwo1why10:06
Linux_Galorenareshov: so basically KDE after what 8 years has no HTML email client but gnome has 4 I know of10:06
Linux_Galoreyeah I can see the enterprise level users really gunning for kde10:07
Daemon--elisiano - it says its switching to 1600x80010:07
elisianowhich is not good10:08
atwo1?10:08
Daemon--thats kubuntu doing that though, not my vm10:08
atwo1how do i get the net to connect X<10:08
elisianoafter u put standard resolution on VM, did u try restarting KDM?10:08
elisianoor even better, kubuntu?10:08
Daemon--yes this is what happens from a full system reboot10:08
Daemon--i reboot the system to get into kde for the first time after installing kubuntu and thats what comes up10:09
atwo1can someone help me config this fresh 7.10 install to connect to the net :<10:09
Daemon--i cant do anything10:09
Daemon--elisiano - im guessing it doesnt like my video card?10:10
Voyage__any suggestions for a file manager instead of dolphin or konqureor.   (may be same like windows file manager) ?10:11
atwo1wjhat the FUICk10:11
atwo1is it resolv or resolve10:11
nareshovwhat?10:11
Linux_GaloreIm starting ti understand why KDE hasnt got of the ground in the enterprise space, its so simple, all the enterprise grade apps are GTK based10:11
atwo1when i changed that nameserver it didnt even fkn save10:11
llutz!ot | Linux_Galore10:12
ubotuLinux_Galore: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:12
atwo1is it resolv.conf or resolve.conf10:12
llutz resolv.conf10:12
Linux_Galorellutz: I asked a question, still waiting for a sane kde answer10:12
elisianoDaemon--: it's not the videocard, I think there's something wrong in how the VM host tells the resolution to the VM guest10:12
llutzLinux_Galore: that's not a kubuntu related thing, ask in #kde10:13
Daemon--elisiano - ok so i should try another VM ?10:13
atwo1omfg10:13
atwo1its fixed10:13
Linux_Galorellutz: #kde channel is locked especially if you ask questions like, are there any enterprise grade email client for kde, they go into melt down and boot you out10:14
atwo1WTF10:14
atwo1i go to normal res the native res and the screen goes halfway off the monitor10:14
atwo1WHYyyyyyy10:14
Linux_Galoreatwo1: reset the monitor, the monitor sets itself defined in the original vga screen10:14
llutzLinux_Galore: so it's not wanted then. sit down and write a client, it's opensource10:15
Assidhey10:15
Linux_Galores/in/on.10:15
Assidthat livecd is majorylu messed up10:15
atwo1reset it defined in what10:15
atwo1every res makes the fonts etc. look like crap10:15
Linux_Galorellutz: aah yes the ultimate stupid FOSS answer, how about I save time and money like every other enterprise grade user and just buy windows10:16
AssidLinux_Galore ?10:16
Assidatwo1: lcd?10:16
atwo1yes10:16
Assidenable anti aliasing fonts10:16
atwo1how10:16
llutzLinux_Galore: nobody stops you, but this is off-topic here so go to some other channels10:16
Assidi think its in manage display  or something10:16
Linux_Galoreatwo1: its in kcontrol10:16
atwo1foudn it10:17
atwo1do i force fonts DPI?10:17
atwo1to 12010:17
Assiderr.. enable antialiasing10:17
Assidand you should be fine10:17
Assid96 dpi is generally more than enough10:18
atwo1ok10:18
atwo1now where do i run that apt-get update cmd from10:18
atwo1and wtf is 'kdesu'10:18
Linux_Galorellutz: just pointing out how insane kde is, you have a nice web browser and cd/dvd burner apps even thanks to kde 4 lots of bouncing icon effects, but not one single email client that is the basic app needed for a desktop that does html like every professional email app out there10:19
atwo1!ot10:19
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:19
elisianoDaemon--: that would be a workaround10:20
AssidLinux_Galore: thunderbird10:20
atwo1where do i type the apt-get update10:20
atwo1in what10:20
elisianou could try vmware just to see if it works10:20
atwo1and the default res is completely screwed10:20
Linux_GaloreAssid: not a kde app10:20
AssidLinux_Galore: doesnt matter, it works fine10:20
Linux_GaloreAssid: it does Im loading two sets of libraries when I should not have too10:21
Assidwel then use kmail10:21
Voyage__any suggestions for a file manager instead of dolphin or konqureor.   (may be same like windows file manager) ?10:21
atwo1littlle help plz10:21
Linux_GaloreAssid: kmail has no html editor support10:21
AssidLinux_Galore: wouldnt know, kcorn or somwething?10:22
ardchoilleVoyage__: I use krusader10:23
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res10:23
Voyage__ardchoille thats similer to windows?10:23
atwo1what's the problem happening10:23
ardchoilleVoyage__: No idea, I haven't seen Windows in years10:24
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: just change your default file browser to konqueror10:24
Voyage__i need a max option giving/functional file manager10:24
ardchoilleVoyage__: That would be konqueror10:24
Voyage__Linux_Galore i dont like it either.  i cant chang icon size.10:24
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res10:25
Assiderr that live cd for kde4 has a major bug10:25
Assidenabling desktop effects kills it10:25
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: you can change the icon size to anything you want10:25
Linux_Galorein konqueror10:25
Voyage__Linux_Galore nop.... the spacing between icons is not changable10:26
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (144)0x90010:26
Voyage__Linux_Galore can you give any other verirty of good managers you think?10:26
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: yep you can change that too10:26
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) i mean10:26
Voyage__Linux_Galore how ?10:27
poison--morning guys10:28
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect10:28
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: ok start kcontrol10:29
Linux_Galoreopen a terminal and type kcontrol10:30
Linux_GaloreLook for KDE Components10:31
Linux_Galorethen File Manager10:31
atwo1anyone plz10:31
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect10:31
Voyage__Linux_Galore k then10:32
llutz!patience | atwo110:32
ubotuatwo1: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines10:32
atwo1..10:32
Linux_Galorein the appearance tab you can set the text parrameters10:32
atwo1llutz do you help or just use those triggers10:32
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: were are you up to10:32
Voyage__Linux_Galore theres no option there10:35
lascari installed dapper on an acer557oz, and it can't detect my wireless nic at all.  Anyone?10:35
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?10:36
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: ok you in kcontrol correct10:37
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: now look for KDE Components10:37
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: then  File Manager10:38
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: in the appearance tab you can set the font layout for the icons10:38
elisianoDaemon--: did u get any further?10:40
Daemon--no buddy :(10:40
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: to set the default browser from Dolphin to konqueror in Kcontrol go to KDE Components->File Association, then in the list click and expand "inode", then expand "Directory"10:41
Assidatwo1: if it doesnt work out, just go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit it there10:41
Linux_GaloreVoyage__: in the application preference order window to the far right make sure konqueror is at the top of the list10:42
Jay-Oh-Enare there any html editors in linux10:42
Linux_GaloreJay-Oh-En: quanta10:44
Jay-Oh-EnLinux_Galore: is that the package name10:44
ardchoille!info quanta10:44
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2385 kB, installed size 5744 kB10:44
Assidquanta just doesnt measure to the likes to dreamweaver if you ask me10:45
ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: Quanta was recently rated the best html editor in Linux Format magazine10:45
Jay-Oh-Enardchoille: kool ill try it out10:46
Linux_GaloreJay-Oh-En: just search for that string in adept_manager  ie type sudo adept_manager10:46
ardchoille!kdesudo | Linux_Galore10:46
ubotuLinux_Galore: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)10:46
Linux_Galoreardchoille: who cares10:46
atwo1ardchoille: i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?10:46
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: If you're going to give advice in this channel, it's best to stick to the recommended advice.10:46
ardchoilleatwo1: I don't know anything about resolutions.10:47
Linux_Galoreardchoille: give me a kde email client that supports html content editing then worry about adding a idiot window for sudo10:47
bazhangLinux_Galore: we care10:47
atwo1anyone know about setting resolutions etc.10:47
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: Please be nice and follow recommended solutions.10:48
atwo1plus the same thing i keep asking10:48
atwo1:<10:49
Linux_Galoreardchoille: pay me and I will follow recommended time wasting solutions10:49
atwo1lol10:49
bazhang!resolution10:50
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:50
ardchoille!coc | Linux_Galore10:50
ubotuLinux_Galore: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:50
bazhangatwo1: see above10:50
Linux_Galoreardchoille: lol, very foss, what next i have to wear a little hat with an Ubuntu logo10:50
atwo1why are there Â's everywhere10:50
atwo1in where do i type the commands apt-get10:51
bazhangLinux_Galore: take it to #offtopic please10:51
Linux_Galoreardchoille: you cant define a code of conduct for people you neither employ or control, you may aswell try and stop the tide10:51
atwo1!ot10:51
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:51
bazhangatwo1: in the konsole10:51
Assiderrr..10:51
Assidthat kde4 rc2 livecd is totally broken10:51
atwo1i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock10:52
Assidif you enable desktop effects.. it goes crazy10:52
Linux_GaloreAssid: thats why it has those two little letters "rc" it means it may be broken to some10:52
Assidkonquror doesnt load either10:52
atwo1Release Candidate10:52
bazhangAssid: thus the rc2 name :}10:52
Assidyeah so trying to report it in.. who do i crib to ? ;)10:53
emilsedghAssid: thats because of misconfigurations in X10:53
Assidemilsedgh: misconfig ? konqueror ?10:53
Assidi can understand desktop effects since compiz needs some renderaccel and stuff on10:53
emilsedghAssid: konqueror opens here, it was unstable until 15-20 days ago, but now it is stable enough10:53
Assidbut what about konqueror ?10:53
atwo1To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart »10:53
atwo1that just screwed eveyrthimng10:54
atwo1im in some dos looking scereen10:54
Assidemilsedgh: sadly no, it just does absolutely nothing10:54
Tm_TLinux_Galore: please stay in constructive and kind attitude10:54
emilsedghAssid: no, desktop effects.10:54
Linux_Galoreatwo1: type  xinit /usr/bin/startkde10:54
Linux_Galoreoops10:54
atwo1i just hit restart10:54
Assidemilsedgh: right, but why isnt konqueror working?10:54
atwo1on the tower10:55
atwo1lawl10:55
atwo1man some stuff i change doesn't save10:55
Linux_GaloreTm_T: lol, what are you on10:55
bazhanguhoh10:55
Tm_TLinux_Galore: I'm on my chair, as usual10:55
emilsedghAssid: i think most of your problems are because kubuntu is not a KDE4 based distro, whats its error? run it in command line10:56
Linux_GaloreTm_T: sorry thats off topic please take your comment to #kubuntu-offtopic10:56
Linux_Galoreheh10:56
ardchoilleoops10:56
atwo1!ot10:56
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:56
Assidemilsedgh: will try it again later, funny enough there wasnt a kvirc or a chat client :|10:56
Tm_Tatwo1: thank you10:56
atwo1:>10:57
emilsedghAssid: Kopete is there but its irc protocol is not ready yet :(10:57
atwo1trying to fix this res problems till10:57
emilsedghAssid: KDE 4.0 ill be used with KDE3 applications10:57
atwo1when i try apt-get update10:57
atwo1[08:52pm] <atwo1> i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock10:57
emilsedghAssid: for example KDE PIM (kmail, kontact and...) will not be released with KDE 4.010:57
Assidemilsedgh: i would so love to move away from windows and finally have my hardware do what its intended to10:57
atwo1assid and old mate use10:58
atwo1!ot10:58
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:58
Jay-Oh-Endoes knoqueror work with gmail?10:58
atwo1go in there for convo i'm trying to resolve this install10:58
atwo1:(10:58
jussio1Jay-Oh-En: it should...10:58
emilsedghAssid: well, KDE3 is already sooo goood10:58
Assidemilsedgh: how come?10:58
Linux_Galorelol, yep way to piss the only guy of who spent hours last this year handing out Kubuntu cd's10:58
Jay-Oh-Enjussio1: it isnt :[10:58
AssidLinux_Galore: who ?10:58
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ardchoilleJay-Oh-En: It does, but you have to change the user agent string: Tools > Change browser identification10:58
Linux_Galoreguess what Im now niot doing it at next years Cebit10:58
Tm_TLinux_Galore: there's no excuses for misbehaviour10:59
bazhangLinux_Galore: please help out others :}10:59
cntb!fixresolution10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixresolution - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:59
Linux_GaloreAssid: Last year at CeBIT I was the only guy demoing Kubuntu/KDE everyone else did gnome10:59
Assidemilsedgh: if those apps are recompiled for the new kde libs, shouldnt it be better?10:59
atwo1when i try apt-get update10:59
atwo1i get something saying 'could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock10:59
atwo1wtf is that about10:59
emilsedghAssid: they couldnt10:59
AssidLinux_Galore: i actually got ubuntu/gnome on my desktop10:59
Assidsorry.. laptop11:00
Tm_TLinux_Galore: and you know well I'm not "on you" in any way, if you disagree with me, feel free to meet me in #ubuntu-ops11:00
Assiddesktop is on win atm, too many requirements that would hinder me11:00
emilsedghAssid: KDE3 apps are written for Qt3/KDE3 Libraries11:00
Linux_GaloreTm_T: aah you mean for having an opinion that doesnt fit yours11:00
Assidemilsedgh: right, but they could upgrade it to kde4 libs and latest QT right ?11:01
Tm_TLinux_Galore: meh, that isn't what I mean11:01
Tm_Tanyway, this is not a place to discuss about this11:01
emilsedghAssid: then they will be KDE4/Qt4 app!11:01
bazhang!aptfix | atwo111:01
ubotuatwo1: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:01
Assidemilsedgh: right, and therefore quicker11:02
emilsedghAssid: thats what people are doing11:02
emilsedghAssid: and for example kde pim apps will not be ready for 4.0 release11:02
Assidhrmm, honestly, i'd like to get my hands on a mac, would address most o fmy needs and hardware that works11:03
Assidi have a core2quad and at times, it just behaves slower than a freshly formatted p411:04
Jay-Oh-Enquanta is pretty good guys11:06
Jay-Oh-Enthanks11:06
atwo1wtf11:06
atwo1i restarted x11:07
atwo1and its on this dos screen again11:07
atwo1how do i get back to desktop11:07
Assidrestart x ?11:07
atwo1alt ctrl backspace11:07
atwo1now its on some metroid screen of text11:07
jussio1atwo1: try logging into it then typing: startx11:08
atwo1wtf11:08
elisianoatwo1: dos? :D11:08
atwo1no i need to know how to start kde11:08
atwo1from this bland screen11:08
jussio1!wtf | atwo111:08
ubotuatwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.11:08
atwo1did i swear11:08
elisianoatwo1: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:09
sub[t]rnlatwo1: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:09
atwo1i dont see it11:09
jussio1atwo1: (wtf)11:09
atwo1that didn't do anything11:09
atwo1i duno wtf this screen is11:09
atwo1the top ssays11:09
atwo1Starting K Display Manager: kdm.11:09
atwo1then there's all this other random crap11:09
Assidlooks like your xorg is gone11:09
atwo1i hit reset11:09
atwo1i did this11:09
atwo1sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom11:09
atwo1md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf |sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum11:09
atwo1sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:09
atwo1trying to fix the res11:10
jussio1atwo1: which graphics card was it?11:10
atwo1i can't get the whole desktop on the screen in default res (1440x900) - restarting just auto changes res back to '1400x1050' which is incorrect - how can i fix this please?11:10
atwo1gefroce 550011:10
elisianotry with a lower resolutio11:10
elisianon11:10
atwo1it needs to use native11:10
atwo1or its screwed uip11:10
beroualSALUT11:11
atwo1the whole KDE is fufkde11:11
atwo1it doesn't load anymore wTF11:11
atwo1happened11:11
atwo1im in like11:12
atwo1a full screen of konsole11:12
atwo1ok that command fixed it i think11:12
atwo1ok no it didnt11:13
atwo1its on some completely blank screen11:13
atwo1with text able to be typed in11:13
jussio1atwo1: one moment...11:14
sub[t]rnlcp your backup xorg.conf.custom over11:14
atwo1?11:14
sub[t]rnlsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:15
atwo1k 1 sec11:15
sub[t]rnlthen sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart11:15
atwo1it was that bs screen res 'fix' that killed it eh11:15
atwo1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:15
atwo1it says 'stopping kde manager'11:16
atwo1then goes11:16
atwo1oh woot11:16
atwo1it fixed it11:16
ubuntu_i neeed help i waas having kubuntu and xp installed to my sys but i ve upgraded my xp to vista home basic then i lost the boot menu so i cant open kubuntu on my sys how can i fix this problem11:16
atwo1and the res is still screwed11:16
jussio1!grub | ubuntu_11:17
ubotuubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:17
atwo1so11:18
atwo1any idea on this res11:18
atwo1it's totally pissing me off11:18
atwo1i mean11:19
atwo1i log into system settings as admin11:19
atwo1change the res11:19
atwo1then a restart cbhanges it back11:19
atwo1the native res puts the screen halfway off the monitor11:19
atwo1id ont get it11:19
ardchoilleatwo1: Can't you just fiddle with the monitor settings to fix that?11:20
atwo1lol no way11:20
atwo1the desktop is about 20% to the right11:20
atwo1wait11:21
atwo1no11:21
atwo1its just squished over11:21
atwo1the whole screen is on there but11:21
atwo1the left side is pushed over by about 20% of the screen11:21
atwo1and if i restart11:21
atwo1it changes back to a dif res11:21
atwo1every time11:21
niwai'm having trouble getting wireless to work, anyone that can help? It's a liteon wn5301a with artheros5413 chipset, which should be supported by madwifi11:22
niwabut after manually modprobing ath_pci, it still doesn't show up when doing iwconfig :(11:22
niwathe module loads without problems11:22
sigmado people still add features to kppp?11:23
atwo1!aptfix11:23
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:23
atwo1that didn't work11:23
atwo1says 'please use single character options'11:24
sigmai have a small suggestion - have a auto-redial option like windows does11:24
niwaatwo1: have you tried editng Xorg.conf directly?11:25
pastrywhy does my compiz 'cube' only have two sides? :<11:27
coteyranyone have experance with videolan and upnp11:27
stdinpastry: because you only have 2 desktops and it want's 411:27
atwo1niwa: no how do i do that11:27
coteyri recom[iled aginst the non cyberlink sdk but I cen't see anything past the server node in the playlist11:27
matze_exit11:28
pastrystdin, when i have one desktop, it has two sides and there are two desktop selections on the taskbar. when i set it to four, it still has two sides, and there are eight desktop selections in the taskbar11:29
stdinpastry: it has nothing to do with kde settings, you need to tell compiz to have 4 desktops from the settings manager11:29
atwo1how do i manually edit X11:30
atwo1Xorg.conf11:30
TheFishyoh11:30
TheFishythats easy11:30
atwo1and do i use sudo or kdesu11:30
ardchoilleatwo1: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf , but be careful11:30
niwaatwo1:  open /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:30
niwabackup :)11:30
TheFishysudo nano ect/x11/xorg.conf...11:30
atwo1i just want to set the resolution how do i do that11:31
ardchoilleatwo1: use kdesu for gui apps and use sudo for cli apps11:31
TheFishydamn i type slow11:31
atwo1i don't know the different lawl11:31
atwo1lol fishy :P11:31
TheFishyto sudo when ever permissions are denined...11:31
elisianogui = graphical user interface, cli = command line interface11:31
TheFishyjust type sudo <command>11:31
atwo1why is the x.org empty11:31
niwaatwo1: you want to look into the section "screen"11:31
elisianogui = windows guy, cli = g33k11:31
elisiano:D11:31
TheFishylol11:31
atwo1there's nothing in this fieeeeeel11:32
TheFishy?11:32
TheFishyfile?11:32
ardchoilleatwo1: Did you open /etc/X11/xorg.conf  or  /etc/x11/xorg.conf ? (notice the upper case X)11:32
elisianoatwo1: xorg.conf11:32
elisianonot x.org11:32
TheFishyoh yeah stupid cap sensitive11:32
atwo1ok lols one was lower11:32
atwo1got it no11:32
atwo1now*11:32
atwo1ok11:33
atwo1um11:33
TheFishydont listen to me11:33
atwo1screen has loads of stuff11:33
atwo1what do i do11:33
TheFishyim a kubunub11:33
atwo1it says11:33
niwai can't remember exactly, but you need to find 'Section "Screen"'11:33
atwo1screen 0 "defealt screen" 0 011:33
atwo1default11:33
atwo1*11:33
atwo1should i change it to11:34
atwo1screen 0 "defealt screen" 1440 90011:34
niwacan you paste the whole file? ( http://paste-it.net )11:35
atwo1k11:35
PolitikerNEUDoes anybody know how to get libkcddb-dev? I cannot find it in the package manager (adept) - kubuntu 7.1011:36
pastrythank you stdin, got it11:36
stdinPolitikerNEU: there doesn't seem to be a -dev built for it11:37
atwo1oh WTF11:37
atwo1my net on that comp is dead11:37
PolitikerNEUhmm ... ok, so I got to dl it manually?11:37
niwalol11:37
michelehello....someone use Hmail, the theme of superkaramba?11:38
stdinPolitikerNEU: pretty much, you'll have to get the kdemultimedia source from "apt-get source kdemultimedia"11:38
atwo1what the FK11:39
atwo1why doesnt my net work now grrrrrr11:39
niwamy file looks like this: http://paste-it.net/523311:39
PolitikerNEUok, thx11:40
Jay-Oh-En!suspend11:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:40
atwozdfgf11:42
atwo1ace11:42
atwohttp://www.paste-it.net/523411:43
atwo1niwa: there it is11:43
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Jay-Oh-En!sleep11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:45
Jay-Oh-En!sleepd11:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sleepd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:45
niwaatwo1: what did you say your res was, adn what do you want it to be?11:45
atwo1there's 2 problems11:46
Jay-Oh-En!info sleepd11:46
elisiano@now Europe/Rome11:46
ubotusleepd: puts an inactive or low battery laptop to sleep. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.9 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 132 kB11:46
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Rome: December 13 2007, 12:46:14 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 13 minutes11:46
atwo1it defaults to 1400x105011:46
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i get sleepd to work11:46
atwo1native is 1440x90011:46
atwo1but when i put that res11:46
atwo1left side is squished in by about 20%11:46
atwo1and it wont line up11:46
atwo1its pissing me off it makes no sense11:48
bazhangatwo1: do you have controls on the monitor you can fiddle with?11:48
atwo1they no where near work11:48
atwo1the left side if pushed 20% accrross to the right11:49
Assid@now asia/calcutta11:49
atwo1but the right side lines up properly11:49
ubotuCurrent time in Asia/Calcutta: December 13 2007, 17:19:12 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 10 minutes11:49
atwo1@now australia/sydney11:49
ubotuCurrent time in Australia/Sydney: December 13 2007, 22:49:23 - Next meeting: Desktop Team Development in 2 hours 10 minutes11:49
stdincan you stop using @now in here, look at the clock if you aren't sure of the time11:50
bazhanghaha11:50
elisianolol11:50
atwo1i @now'd a place that has a different time to where i am11:50
atwo1i has no clock 4 there11:50
atwo1ps. help my issue get fixed :>11:50
niwaatwo1: i'm not sure, but it seems that auto configuration hasn't detected that your monitor supports 1440x90011:50
atwo1omfg11:50
atwo1wtf11:51
stdin!acronyms | atwo111:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acronyms - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:51
stdindang11:51
elisianoatwo1: sorry to ask again, maybe u already said: which is your setup?11:51
stdin!language > atwo111:51
atwo1setup?11:51
elisianovideo card/monitor resolution11:51
atwo1geforce 550011:51
niwaatwo1: definitly not sure, all xorg.conf experience comes from gentoo fiddling11:51
atwo119inch widescreen11:51
stdin!acronym11:51
ubotuAcronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.11:51
elisianojfgi?11:51
atwo1just fucking gimme it11:52
* atwo1 shrugs11:52
elisianoloooooool11:52
elisiano:D11:52
atwo1i made that one up11:52
atwo1was it right?11:52
bazhanggoogle11:52
ali_test11:52
atwo1ugh11:52
atwo1so11:52
atwo1what's up with this res then11:52
atwo1otherwise i'll just have to take the monitor back11:53
elisianodid u install nvidia drivers correctly?11:53
atwo1and the store is full of moron asian kids11:53
atwo1i can't install anything11:53
atwo1apt-get is screwy11:53
elisianowhy not?11:53
elisianoomg11:53
atwo1or else i duno what to do11:53
atwo1i've had kubuntu for like 1 hour11:53
elisianodo u run it as root?11:53
elisianoor with sudo?11:53
atwo1tell me what to use11:53
atwo1slash do11:53
elisianohow are you trying to apt?11:54
bazhangatwo1: probably best to take a break for now--getting this riled up can't be a help11:54
atwo1don't know11:54
atwo1who's riled up?11:54
pastryi thought you cant run with root and only with sudo :<11:54
atwo1i'm stoned and relaxed after a long days work11:54
bazhangheh11:54
atwo1just toying with this11:54
atwo1once i fix the res i can actually take a look at things11:54
elisianoI gotta go eat in 5 minutes11:54
atwo1i'm guessing it's a driver issue11:55
atwo1what do i type where to do what11:55
elisianotry and see if it's a perms problem11:55
atwo1im in konsole11:55
atwo1as root11:55
elisianosudo apt-get update11:55
elisianoas root11:55
elisianook w/o sudo then11:55
bazhangatwo1: no one has an answer for you right now, so it might be wise to check out the forums for an answer11:55
atwo1it does this11:55
niwaelisiano: you should begin by installing nvidia proprietary drivers11:55
bazhangoo as root11:55
atwo1let me paste what it says11:55
niwadidn't notice that you hadn't unitl now11:55
niwasorry atwo111:55
niwa*meant11:56
elisianoniwa: I have them installed correctly, maybe atwo1 should as well11:56
elisiano:)11:56
niwayes, lol :)̈́11:56
bazhang!root11:56
ubotuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:56
atwo1when i type11:56
atwo1apt-get update11:56
atwo1i get this11:56
atwoIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/main Translation-en_AU11:56
atwoIgn cdrom://Kubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016.1) gutsy/restricted Translation-en_AU11:56
atwoReading package lists... Done11:56
atwo1:\11:56
bazhangno wonder11:56
atwo1no wonder what11:57
bazhangatwo1 you need to add repositories and disable the cd as a software source11:57
atwo1the cd isn't even in the drive11:57
bazhangno matter11:57
atwo1ok so what do i do11:57
jembouge!offtopic11:57
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:57
bazhangatwo1 open up adept11:57
bazhanghuh?11:58
atwo1where is adept11:58
bazhangalt +f2 adept11:58
atwo1ok11:58
jembougehi there11:58
atwo1now wut11:58
jembougeanyones knows where the kdm themes are located?11:59
bazhangactually that should be kdesu adept iirc11:59
stdinnope11:59
stdinkdesu adept_manager11:59
bazhangkdesudo?11:59
bazhangoh ok11:59
ardchoillejembouge: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes11:59
atwo1ah THIS THING11:59
atwo1i remember this11:59
bazhangclose adept atwo111:59
jembougethanks ardchoille11:59
atwo1ok im in11:59
atwo1the latter11:59
atwo1now what11:59
niwaor just system->adept :/11:59
ardchoillejembouge: yw12:00
atwo1what am i doign in here12:00
bazhangatwo1 now run alt +f2 again but type kdesu adept_manager12:00
sebastian^moin folks :)12:00
atwo1yeah im there12:00
atwo1already i said12:00
sebastian^hmm, is anyone using here the cisco network assistance :)?12:00
bazhangatwo1: were you prompted for your sudo password?12:01
atwo1er12:01
atwo1no12:01
atwo1i clickde 'fetch updates'12:01
atwo1was that right12:01
atwo1and versino upgrade12:01
bazhangatwo1: better to just open it from the kmenu, as niwa said12:01
bazhangatwo1 so close it now12:02
jembougeardchoille: cool, I had look for them in many directories so far without success. Do you know of a good "tutorial" that explains the system folders-tree?12:02
atwo1hold up12:02
atwo1its diong all these updates12:02
atwo1alright12:03
atwo1im in adept12:03
atwo1it didnt ask for my pw12:03
atwo1but tell me what im doing in here12:03
ardchoillejembouge: I'm afraid I don't :(12:04
jembougeok no worries thanks :)12:04
atwo1bazhang: ?12:04
niwaatwo1: did you start kde from the command line earlier?12:06
ActionParsniphi all12:06
atwo1think so12:06
niwaatwo1: if so, you might already be root12:06
atwo1just12:06
atwo1what am i doing in here12:06
atwo1i am12:06
atwo1just12:06
niwaatwo1: open konsole and type 'whoami'12:07
atwo1do i untick cdrom as a third party software source12:07
atwo1im12:07
atwo1like12:07
atwo1the name i log on with12:07
atwo1lol12:07
niwaatwo1: tes12:07
niwa*yes12:07
atwo1where did he go12:07
atwo1what am i doing in here12:07
ActionParsnipatwo: go easy on the enter key dude12:07
atwo1k12:07
niwaatwo1: like you said, untick the cd sources12:07
atwo1do i tick the other 2?12:08
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i make my computer go to sleep12:08
atwo1sleeping pills12:08
niwaatwo1: not unless you want to12:08
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: do you mean hibernate?12:08
Jay-Oh-Enatwo1: FUNNY you should be a comedian12:08
atwo1ok12:08
atwo1something happened12:08
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: no i mean suspend or sleep12:08
niwabut make sure that you tick at least 'main' in the first tab12:09
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: cause hibernate broke my computer before12:09
habdel!w32codecs12:09
ubotuThe Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:09
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: are you on a laptop?12:09
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: yeah its a bit weird12:09
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: why12:09
ActionParsnipcos of apm stuff. not sure why. its just weird (specially for laptops)12:09
atwo1niwa: what now?12:10
atwo1i unticked all the 3rd party12:10
atwo1and ticked main12:10
atwo1oh wait up it's dl'ing stuff there we go12:10
atwo1do i restart now?12:11
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: well no i dont have a laptop12:11
niwaatwo1: apt-get should work now, i think12:11
atwo1whoa12:11
atwo1there's so much to get12:11
atwo1and update etc.12:11
niwai installed ubuntu yesterday, so i'm not sure12:11
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: but i know you can make a desktop sleep ive did it in ubuntu before :[12:11
atwo1lol12:11
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: just found this http://www.linux.com/feature/5461012:11
atwo1thanks12:11
atwo1ActionParsnip that's a mad nick lololol12:11
korobasehi.all12:12
atwo1hi12:12
niwaatwo1: also, you should check 'restricted' in the first tab, as you need the nvidia drivers12:12
ActionParsnipatwo: its a harry hill joke12:12
atwo1who is harry hill12:12
ActionParsnipatwo: british standup comedian...very strange12:12
atwo1oic12:13
atwo1this adept thing is half dead12:13
atwo1trying to update all these things12:13
korobaseI install the eclipse,and type the "./eclipse" in console.Then it can't run but show "bash: ./eclipse: No such file or directory"12:13
korobaseWhat is wrong with this?12:13
llutzkorobase: eclipse, withou ./ unless you are in the eclipse directory12:13
ardchoillekorobase: Any reason you aren't installing eclipse from the repository?12:14
korobaseno ,it also don't work!12:14
korobasenot from the repository.12:14
atwo1if a program is taking a long time to do something, is there a way to tell if it's just crashed or still working?12:14
llutzkorobase: where did you install eclipse to? change in that dir and find the executable-file12:14
jembougewell guys, coming back in a few... cheers12:15
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: that doesnt work12:15
korobaseI use the absolute path to run it,But the result is the same.12:16
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: i'll have a google. gimme a sec12:16
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20804212:16
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: ok12:16
korobaseis this the Dolphin's problem?12:17
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: i couldnt find that in my kmenu12:18
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: does apm -s suspend your system?12:19
Jay-Oh-Enwell how will i get it back from sleep12:20
llutzpowerswitch12:20
Jay-Oh-EnNo APM support in kernel12:21
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: there's your issue12:21
Jay-Oh-Eni dont get it tho i can suspend in ubuntu but not kubuntu :[12:21
korobaseall the executable file can't run in my computer.Why?12:21
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: if you add acpi=off to your kernal args at boot then apm should be there12:22
ActionParsniphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876612:22
atwo1ok12:24
atwo1apt-get update says12:24
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html12:24
atwo1Could not open lock file12:24
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: may help12:24
atwo1ver/lib/apt/lists/lock - open 13 permission denied12:24
ardchoilleatwo1: Do you have adept open?12:24
atwo1ydes12:25
stdinatwo1: use sudo12:25
ardchoilleatwo1: adept and apt-get both use the same lock file, you can't use both apps at the same time, you need to close on to use the other12:25
atwo1sigh12:25
atwo1oh12:25
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6030612:26
atwo1i tried to make12:26
atwo1apt thingy get all the updates12:26
atwo1but it just crahsed i think12:26
ardchoille!fixadept12:26
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:26
atwo1ardchoille: i tried that once it was deadly12:26
atwo1plus it says u can't use 2 somethnis12:26
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/4750812:27
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: thanks12:27
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: SOOO many links ill take a look at all of them12:27
atwo1if im in root so i have to type sudo12:27
ActionParsnipJay-Oh-En: yeah man i'll lay off now and let you wade through :)12:27
atwo1look man12:28
Jay-Oh-EnActionParsnip: thanks12:28
atwo1!fixadept12:28
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »12:28
atwo1that makes no sense12:28
atwo1and doesn't work12:28
atwo1'please use single character options'12:29
jussio1atwo1: what exactly are you putting there?12:30
atwo1apt-get is being a jerk12:30
* ActionParsnip is afk12:30
atwo1read up a bit12:30
atwo1god i click 'fetch updates'12:31
atwo1and there's 539012:31
jussio1atwo1: kk... so you need to close adept before you do any of that, then type: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a12:31
marco80ciao12:31
marco80qualche italiano?12:31
jussio1!it | marco8012:31
ubotumarco80: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:31
atwo1doesn'ty do anythuing12:31
jussio1atwo1: now try using adept12:32
atwo1says 'waiting for headers'12:33
atwo1im doing it under sudo in konsole12:34
jussio1atwo1: wait for them then :D12:34
atwo1that works eh12:34
jussio1:D12:34
atwo1now how do i make them dl12:34
atwo1it saus12:34
atwo1a;l12:34
atwo1all this random crap12:34
atwoGet:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg [191B]12:34
atwoIgn http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_AU12:34
atwoHit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release12:34
atwoHit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages12:34
atwoFetched 1B in 16s (0B/s)12:34
atwoReading package lists... Done12:34
atwo1and thats all it does12:35
jussio1atwo1: what are you exactly trying to do?12:35
atwo1update everything12:35
atwo1i just installed it12:35
atwo1also my screen is rooted12:35
atwo1ther is a 150-200 pixel blank space on the left of the screen.12:36
atwo1on the native resolution12:36
niwaatwo1: you should install the nividia drivers before trying to fix that problem12:37
jussio1atwo1: it seems you dont have the universe repos enabled. please go to manage repositories from th file menu in adept and make sure all the boxes except source are clicked12:37
atwo1how12:37
atwo1oops meant to delete that12:37
atwo1ok12:38
atwo1source code u mean12:38
atwo1oh hooray12:39
atwo1omfg12:39
atwo123132 downloads available12:39
jussio1atwo1: yeah, thats how many you can install - not updates.12:39
atwo1so i dont need them all12:40
atwo1its just a list of the available programs to the OS?12:40
jussio1atwo1: now try the fetch updates button in adept12:40
jussio1atwo1: yes12:40
atwo1jesus christ something that uses half a brain for once instead of allowing billions of shit programs to exist12:40
jussio1!language12:40
ubotuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:40
atwo1omg u dobbed12:40
stdin!attitude12:40
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:40
atwo1it's not like i'm being abusive to people12:40
atwo1calm down12:40
ardchoilleatwo1: Please be respectful to others12:41
atwo1i havn't been disrespectful to anyone else at all12:41
atwo1ok i went to the nvidia section of the list12:42
atwo1and just tried to install them all12:42
jussio1atwo1: that isnt really going to work.12:42
atwo1thought i'd give it a shot :>12:42
jussio1!ati | atwo1 Read this:12:42
ubotuatwo1 Read this:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:42
atwo1ooo12:43
atwo1thx12:43
jussio1:)12:43
atwo1i do all this stuff in konsole right12:43
jussio1atwo1: you are using gutsy?12:44
jussio1atwo1: ie. kubuntu 7.10 ?12:45
atwo1yes12:45
atwo1just installed tonight12:45
jussio1atwo1: then follow the gutsy instructions...12:45
atwo1doing now12:46
jussio1use the restricted manager in systems settings12:46
atwo1its turning on12:46
atwo1its sitting at 87% for agesw12:46
jussio1atwo1: you need to be a little patient with it12:46
sigmais there any article online that explains why linux is better than proprietory software?12:48
atwo1hundreds12:48
sigmaanyone perhaps have a link to a decent one12:49
TheFishywhat is a good movie?12:49
jussio1TheFishy: lets keep it on topic12:50
sigmaoh guys what chatroom are the tutorials being held in 2day?12:50