[01:13] [17:09] NetLarIrvine: if you're having trouble with ubuntu, you may try Solaris 10. It is a bit easier to get going [01:18] What is the factoid about compiling your own drivers? [01:22] hm [01:23] can't find any [01:23] there is of course !kernel [01:23] but no generic factoid about module assistant [01:23] there's this [01:23] !alsa-source [01:23] Want to use alsa 0.11? Grab and install http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.11-2_all.deb, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) module-assistant and build-essential and run sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source [01:25] hmm, isn't that a bit old now? [01:25] no idea [01:25] it's the only factoid mentioning module-assistant [01:26] well gutsy has 1.0.14-1ubuntu2 so it seems a bit out of date [01:26] Gutsy here: alsa-base-1.0.14-1ubuntu2 [01:27] stdin types faster than I do :/ [01:27] well who cares about that factoid anyway [01:27] but perhaps we should have one about using module-assistant [01:28] can't find much on the wiki either [01:29] me either [01:31] all I can find is a spec for module-assistant [01:31] the one to run it automatically after kernel updates? [01:32] yeah [01:36] !modules [01:36] To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u » [01:37] !-modules [01:37] modules is blacklist - added by LjL on 2007-01-26 02:51:55 [01:37] !no modules is To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard !kernel, install the relevant package, usually called "-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see !blacklist [01:37] I'll remember that LjL [01:38] troll in #ubuntu-offtopic [01:39] LjL, Maybe he should be klined? He is just trolling channels at random it seems [01:41] #perv... [01:41] how many channels i didn't know the existence of, and am glad i don't, i wonder [01:41] yea, pretty freaky [01:41] how on earth did you find that one [01:42] i didn't, this sam troll just mentioned it on #teensonlinux [01:43] ouch i just couldn't resist [01:44] * somerville32 doesn't want to know what LjL just gave into :P [01:44] somerville32: that little comment on #teens [01:45] haha [01:45] * somerville32 nods. [01:46] MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu (motherlode) [01:47] nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu () [01:47] done [01:48] LjL: klined [01:48] yeah, saw him in #gentoo :| [02:50] ardchoille: client coming for you [02:51] LjL: ? [02:51] ardchoille, unless i'm mistaken and "ardachcile" is someone else, but i doubt it [02:52] perhaps he won't come [02:52] anyway FYI [02:52] LjL: I'm confused [02:52] #ubuntu: [02:52] [03:50:06] unban me from #kubuntu someone [02:52] [03:50:10] ardachcile is a faggit [02:52] in #kubuntu? or PM? [02:52] [03:50:36] nonoo: #ubuntu-ops [02:53] The only ban I have set was atwo [02:53] You remember him? [02:53] ardchoille, it's completly concivable they've changed nick a few times to try get back in [02:53] something we'll find out as soon as the bantracker loads [02:53] which is probably tomorrow [02:54] according to /whois, that's him [02:54] elkbuntu: Yeah [02:54] it is indeed [02:55] i don't think he should join #ubuntu again, either, seeing his eagerness to call people names [02:55] He was causing trouble, cursing, general bad attitude, disrespect to other, disregarding channel rules.. he had many warning from several ops. I finally got tired of it and banned him. [02:55] now he's atwo1 [02:56] don't think he has a clue how to get a different address, though, so let him change nicknames as he likes [02:56] that 'realname' he has set is ringing bells [02:56] it is? [02:57] he started out as atwo1, got banned from a channel, changed nicks to atwo and now he is nonoo [02:57] Sounds of ban evasion to me. [02:57] yeah, but i have no clue who it's a reminder of [02:57] no, he's atwo1 again now [02:57] anyway, he's certainly attempted ban evasion, but will hardly manage it [02:57] but i know he's not the first troll to use that realname [02:58] elkbuntu, i'm grepping logs, but i can't remember [02:58] LjL, so it's familiar to you too? [02:59] no, not really, but perhaps there's something in the logs [02:59] Where is the ban tracker? [02:59] Do I have access to it? [02:59] ardchoille, nope, you currently don't have access to it, we'll need seveas [03:00] I should ask him to give me access [03:00] the only Pandemonium i have is on march 25, nickname (not realname), not kicked or banned [03:00] his presence is somewhat required, so you could be waiting a while [03:01] No problem, I can wait :) [03:04] LjL, i cant find it in my logs either, but im starting to think the server tab doesnt get logged in xchat [03:05] it does, probably ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-.log [03:08] more like ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/Ubuntu\ Servers-ubuntu\ servers.log actually [03:08] aaah... there it hides [03:10] odd naming scheme though [03:11] aaaaaaaha! [03:12] elkbuntu: > [03:12] all i needed to do was grep all my ubuntu logs: [03:12] ? [03:12] Jul 11 01:07:00 * pandemonium (n=pandemon@p3EE020E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #ubuntu [03:12] Jul 11 01:07:10 hez [03:12] Jul 11 01:07:12 hez [03:12] Jul 11 01:07:20 hey....whats up here [03:12] Jul 11 01:08:08 * pandemonium has quit (Client Quit) [03:12] What did you find? [03:12] i remember that now [03:13] this is proof of how obscure my brain works [03:15] LjL, i was thinking of what you found [03:15] actually no, it's a different one [03:16] the pandemonium person above also had connection issues on aug 6 [03:17] How fasat are the logs updated? [03:17] ardchoille, the logs? you mean the ones i log locally? realtime [03:17] ubuntulog, every 20 mins or so [03:17] No, the http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ logs [03:17] see latter [03:18] well that's what fabbione used to run them at, i dont know what the sysadmins run them at now [03:19] also, if you ever notice them missing, let one of us know so we can poke the sysadmins [03:24] Well, I found the place in the logs where I banned him, but it doesn't show in the logs [03:28] ardchoille: well, if you want a log http://stdin.pastebin.com/d66fa01cc is from the bantracker [03:28] stdin: Ah, thakn you much [03:29] Last three lines of that log [03:30] yep, the bantracker logs 200 lines from the event (the /kick in this case) [03:30] Wow, nice tracker :) [03:31] it comes in handy from time to time :) [03:31] stdin: i have a question [03:31] nalioth: yes? [03:32] why isn't there a dedicated KDE web browser? [03:32] you mean konqueror? [03:32] it's not dedicated [03:32] it is more so in kde4 [03:32] it doesn't have web history, or web-centric stuff [03:34] know of any QT/kde based web browser (besides konq)? [03:35] konqueror generally a jack of all trades, the only other Qt bases browser I know off the top of my head is opera [03:35] opera is closed source [03:35] and it's not kde-centric [03:35] the kde4 konqueror is more web-centric [03:36] and it does have a history [03:36] so i have to wait? [03:37] that's part of the reason to make dolphin the file manager and konqueror a (real) web browser in kde4 [03:37] konqueror didn't really have a purpose as such [03:37] i prefer konqueror as file mangler [03:37] unless dolphin has made great leaps [03:38] if you're comparing it to the kde3 version then don't :p they are extremely different [03:38] dolphin is actually useful in kde4 :) [03:39] and not as clunky [03:39] That's very good to hear [03:39] Because I was severely disappointed with dolphin in gutsy [03:40] * nalioth has kde4 on his test machine, but is currently unable to change over to it . . . . [03:41] you can start dolphin from your kde3 session too, just run "dolphin-kde4" it will work from the kmenu as soon as it gets backported [03:41] (or I may just upload it to the -kde4 ppa myself) [03:41] so it runs now, but won't run from the kmenu until it gets backported? [03:42] well the .desktop files were a bit broken because the Exec= line was wrong [03:42] could not open dolphin-kde4 [03:43] you have it installed? [03:43] stdin: you packaged it [03:43] yeah, but I don't know if you installed it [03:44] i installed everything that had "kde4" in it [03:44] wow :p [03:44] what version of dolphin-kde4 do you have? (should be4:3.97.0-1ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1) [03:45] your update mechanism isn't working right, i don't think [03:46] why? [03:47] i've got 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1 [03:47] ahh, you haven't got the new PPA ;) [03:47] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/ gutsy main [03:47] the PPA doesn't update it's release.gz? [03:48] we moved it to another ppa so more than one person could upload (other than me) [03:48] nice of you to tell us :| [03:49] it's on the announcement page... [03:49] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php [03:50] i don't surf the web much [03:50] it's in the #kubuntu topic too, and on !kde4 :) [03:50] i don't talk to bots, either :( [03:51] I'd sure hope you read topics though [03:51] nope [03:51] the only reason we used my PPA in the first place was because it was already built there and would take ages to backport or build in the kubuntu-members ppa [03:52] stdin: would you like access to a powerpc box? [03:52] to do what? [03:52] to do what, indeed. [03:53] I've never used anything powerpc, never had a mac [03:53] but lots of ubuntu users _DO_ have powerpc hardware, and might like to try out kde4 [03:55] right now the only way to build powerpc packages is with the ubuntu build system, PPA run on xen so can only build i386/amd64/lpia [03:55] are you kidding me? [03:55] i used to build powerpc packages [03:56] well, that's what the launchpad admins tell me [03:56] you can build packages anywhere [03:57] can you install the powerpc debs from apt in a chroot on a i386 box? [03:58] stdin: a chroot only works for simliar arch packages [03:58] that's what all the packages are built in though, chroots with only build-essential installed [03:59] stdin: get the PM? [03:59] yeah just noticed it, I had sound muted [04:09] yama called the ops in #ubuntu-au () [04:09] praetorian called the ops in #ubuntu-au () [04:46] yama called the ops in #ubuntu-au () [04:46] it's just testing, somerville32 you dont need to be there [04:48] yama called the ops in #ubuntu-au () [04:48] ignore again [05:06] hm [05:59] In ubotu, Jordan_U said: windows is For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents [06:18] nickrud called the ops in #ubuntu () [06:20] Jordan_U: ? [06:20] !windows [06:20] For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents [06:21] Tm_T, I don't think the immature windows bashing is needed [06:21] Jordan_U: agreed there, it's joke, but not nice one [06:21] !nixternal [06:21] Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! [06:22] nixternal: what'dya say? [06:22] huh? [06:22] nixternal, I'll take some free money [06:22] so will I [06:22] nixternal: about !windows factoid, should do we remove the health institute bit? [06:22] nixternal, Nice, I hear nixternal is giving some away [06:23] ;) [06:24] ubotu: no windows is For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents [06:24] In #ubuntu-ops, Tm_T said: ubotu: no windows is For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents [06:24] hmmmmh [06:24] ubotu: no windows is For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents [06:24] I'll remember that Tm_T [06:24] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] [06:24] thanks [06:24] Jordan_U: happy with? [06:25] Tm_T, Yes, thank you [06:25] as long as the !windows doesn't have something controversial or disrespectful, then it is fine [06:25] nixternal: isn't "or your nearest mental health institute" disrespectful then? ;) [06:26] yup [06:27] plus, the person who created it, probably has a windows machine on his/her desk [06:27] that's offensive towards the mental health institutes. i'm sure they want regular visitors too, to help out. [06:27] haha [06:27] hahaha [06:27] many of us think the wording of bug #1 itself to be disrespectful in itself, since it should be 'proprietary software' rather than 'microsoft' [06:27] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [06:29] bug #1 is flat out stupid anyways...after they tested that LP worked with it, they should have removed it or changed it [06:29] Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [06:29] shut up ubotu [06:29] nixternal, having it there as like a mission statement/goal is fine, but being so shallow as to target one single company is ridiculou [06:30] very true [06:30] not to mention in itself non-CoC compliant ;) [06:57] yu [07:00] okie, see you next year or so -> [07:23] am I not getting it, but do peeople really need medibuntu still? [07:32] Myrtti: I need libdvdcss2. I realise I can get that in other ways, but I feel Medibuntu is important. [07:32] I mean, who knows what new and exciting things it may hold in the future. [07:33] * Hobbsee has only found that she needs libdvdcss2 from it. [07:34] I used the Seveas repo in Edgy and I think it's good to have a repo for things that can't be put into the official repos. [07:34] Just my opinion, tho [09:51] I'm having the *toughest* time setting up xchat on my laptop to use the irssi-proxy on my server. [09:52] I'm getting "channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused" when trying to setup the ssh tunnel. [13:27] erUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (indiangal) [13:42] yet another day, yet amother apartment I'd love [13:44] Myrtti: oh.. so you missed out on the last one? [15:15] can you please add a factoid to ubuntu that warns on dangerous commands? [15:16] kbrooks: do it. say "uboto foo is bar" [15:17] !rm | kbrooks [15:17] kbrooks: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [15:17] oh, I thought that one had a warning.. [15:19] In ubotu, kbrooks said: dcommands is Please do not mention, even as a joke, dangerous commands that remove user's files or the operating system. === GnuKemist is now known as OgMaciel [16:31] Gah this is like dialup [16:32] gah now i'm loading a link hobbsee left me (.com.au) and its like dialup through my mobile :P [16:37] Hello [16:37] hi [16:37] Are you gusy responsible for #ubuntu-de, too? [16:37] hullo [16:39] Dr_vOn_pSiE, What do you need? [16:43] Well, fist sorry for my bad english, but thats not the point. I guess I was kicked from the channel #ubuntu-de by fr00d without a reason. I pasted, yes I am guilty, but I did as it is regulated in the TOPIC of that channel, which says, that you are supposed to used paste-service if you are pasting more than 3 lines. Well I pasted 3 and added a 4th one with my own words and got kicked immediadly, without being warned before. [16:44] I just want to tell you guys this as I thing that this is not fair [16:45] And then this guy told me that that the TOPIC aren't rules, just guidelines. [16:45] so you appeared to be pasting a large text.... and were removed? [16:45] How was he to know that there wasn't another 50 lines coming? [16:46] no, i pasted like 10 words in total [16:46] and he knew [16:46] but alright i see. I just did what the guideline said [16:47] noting more, nothing less [16:47] Have you tried to talk to him in pm about it? [16:47] well he thinks that he is right [16:47] i am not his opinion [16:47] but he helped me in pm though [16:48] Dr_vOn_pSiE, Are you banned? [16:48] I don't know [16:49] no [16:49] What do you mean "and he knew"? [16:50] Dr_vOn_pSiE, So, what are you looking to resolve? :) [16:50] i just want to tell you guys that if you have a guidline and someone follows it you can't kick him [16:51] yes? [16:51] and with he knew i meant that he was supposed to konw what is going to be my paste, as he asked me the use the command compiz --replace [16:51] and tell him the output [16:52] Dr_vOn_pSiE, Okay. [16:52] well [16:52] Dr_vOn_pSiE, You might want to speak with the channel contact for #ubuntu-de as he or she is responsible for that channel. [16:53] lol [16:53] * PriceChild sighs [16:53] i asked you guys in the beginning [16:53] so who is the cannel contace for #ubuntu-de [16:54] contact i mean [16:54] Dr_vOn_pSiE, /msg chanserv info #ubuntu-de [16:54] I really really don't think this is needed... [16:54] ok thx [16:54] well look [16:56] * somerville32 agrees with PriceChild. [16:56] It really hasn't seemed like it. [16:56] it is that we all just want to have fun with our ubuntu and for me as a newcommer this is very diappointing if i am trying to get some help in the official irc channel [16:56] and being handled like this [16:57] i am trying my best to switch from win to linux but is not easy [16:58] Dr_vOn_pSiE: people are kicked when pasting because it's the easiest way to stop the pasting continuing and the channel being flooded. Sometimes people make mistakes [16:58] but anyway thanks for the conversation [16:58] please don't /quit.... [16:58] To be honest, I'm not totally up to speed with what you're complaining about? You agree you pasted 4 lines (could have been more coming) and were removed? [16:58] "pasted" [16:59] well he asked me to use the command compiz --replace and tell him the output [16:59] i guess he must know what the output will be [17:00] i pasted 3 lines [17:00] Dr_vOn_pSiE, Please use pastebin in the future and you won't have this problem. M'Kay? :) [17:00] and wrote one by myself [17:00] how should he know? He's not the one watching and copying the terminal output [17:00] there could have been a lot more errors [17:01] Well, sorry guys I did as the topic says [17:01] pasting 3 lines is ok [17:01] And he referred to the TOPIC after he kicked me [17:01] Dr_vOn_pSiE: nobody has said that it wasn't ok [17:02] PriceChild, can i comment? [17:02] Dr_vOn_pSiE, He must have thought you were going to paste more. It was a simple misunderstanding. :) [17:02] yes [17:02] Dr_vOn_pSiE: but if you speak quickly after your 3d pasted line, how do we know if a large paste is coming? [17:02] Morning, just got up.. are fallen and flyback talking about pirated serials or am I just seeing the end of the conversation [17:02] Jack_Sparrow, vmware [17:03] k [17:03] well he kicked me like 10 seconds after that and in my 4th line was telling him sorry for paste, but this is the fastest way [17:04] I could even tell him thanks to what he added when i was pasting [17:04] then he kicked me [17:04] Dr_vOn_pSiE, i suggest you talk to the channel contact [17:04] he must have been to busy kicking me, so he couldn't see that i am writing more [17:05] Dr_vOn_pSiE, I'm sorry you are upset by being kicked but let me reassure you it isn't a big deal. :) [17:06] Well, thanks for the comversation. [17:06] I know [17:06] I don't know how to say this right [17:07] but i guess he thinks that he is someting better than "normal users" are [17:07] anyway i konw that it isn't a too big deal [17:07] i guess i will talk to him about that and hope to get a appology.. [17:08] CYA guys, and have fun. [17:08] Dr_vOn_pSiE, I hope you feel comfortable to be able to rejoin #ubuntu-de and get your Ubuntu questions answered. :) [17:09] yep [17:58] Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu (slipttees) [17:58] well do all you #ubuntu guys get all the fun.. [17:58] slipttees had a warning, no reason to quiet or kick I don'tt hink [17:58] he apologized for the slip up [17:59] erm, yes [18:00] thanks.. just thought that was going to turn bad fast [18:00] i didn't mean to ban [18:01] LjL: thanks for explaining [18:01] bah, I am talking to him in PM, he is off to another OS already :( [18:01] we need to slow down a bit when some one slips with a cuss word [18:02] he didnt apologize until AFTER the ops call [18:02] ya he did [18:02] He swore in excitement. I don't quite see how that required an ops call at all. [18:03] somerville32: +100000000 [18:03] Family friendly... [18:03] 11:58:12 [ slipttees] ikonia, ops sorry :( [18:03] ok no need to make a huge fuss of this [18:03] 29 seconds after he slipped up [18:03] * somerville32 levels up. [18:03] not making a huge fuss, we just don't need to be so jumpy [18:03] Jack_Sparrow, just if something looks like *going* to turn out bad, but hasn't yet, ping here rather than !opsing [18:04] hm [18:04] * Mez did a remove and was planning on contacting... hence hwy I remoevd the ban.. Isaw the ops call, saw the swearing ... did a remove [18:04] What happened to giving warnings for small offences like that? :S [18:04] LjL: I was already offended when I called... but will be a bit more tolerant [18:06] how could anyone be offended by fuckinhell? I know everyone here doesn't have virgin ears, plus you can see he was excited that someone helped him :) [18:07] nixternal: +1 [18:08] what the fuckinghell is your problem... [18:08] does anyone happen to read the planet btw? it is far more public than our IRC channels, and you see all kinds of cuss words...so I have a problem with taking action other than a warning when it comes to cussing..makes us look all hypocrtical and shit..ya I swore, big deal :p [18:08] sorry [18:32] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (darkone_) [18:33] klined [18:33] wow, cloning, too [18:34] cloning? [18:34] the darkeone guy has been a pain [18:34] when a kline hits, i see all the users who were on that IP [18:34] that IP had clones [18:35] ah, right, i /whois'd, i didn't /who [18:35] well i /who'd but only after you'd already klined [18:35] do you see a problem with the nick 'cumknot' ? (maybe it's just me :) ) [18:36] crdlb: is that person trolling? [18:36] as long as it isn't pigcum again, i'm willing to let it pass [18:36] no [18:49] In ubotu, Jord said: tcprelay is a port forwarder [18:49] !info tcprelay > jord [18:49] uhm, except it's not a package i guess [18:50] * somerville32 nods. [18:51] In ubotu, Jord said: tcpxd is TCP/IP relay or proxy, allowing a connection to a port on a system to be forwarded to another port on any other system. It is useful for firewalls and service relocations, and is small, simple, and fast. http://quozl.us.netrek.org/tcpxd/ [18:51] that's better [18:51] :) [18:52] Jord, that's nice, but isn't there something in the repositories to achieve the same? [18:52] when something is available from the repositories, we'd much rather have a factoid on that, than on something that isn't [18:52] i wish i could find something [18:52] i need a program that does the same as tcpxd except i need to be able to bind it to a port [18:52] to an interface* [18:53] according to the changelog, tcpxd can do it [18:53] Jord, iptables does it fine... you just need to know how to use it [18:53] but i cant find documentation about that [18:53]