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Sionide21	whack: A bit	00:00
whack	is it anygood	00:00
ben__	Brownster: Are you familiar with the audio program Grip?	00:01
tofaffy	What are some good "Winblows Movie Maker" alternatives. In kino, you can only import videos, and not pictures...so I dun wanna use kino.	00:01
logankoester	p_quarles: llamakc: http://pastebin.ca/816785	00:01
p_quarles	whack: it's very good. a little more "bleeding edge" than Ubuntu	00:01
some_idiot	err, how long does it take the ubuntu developers to update a tupid md5sum and get flashplugin0-nonfree to work again?	00:01
Brownster	ben__, I do use it why?	00:01
Sionide21	It was ok when I used it (A few years back). APT is much faster than YUM	00:01
whack	I find ubuntu slow	00:01
logankoester	whack: I just came back from FC7 and FC8 and I'm loving 7.10	00:01
Greevous	can anyone tell me what key(s) correspond to shortcuts that begin with "0x..."?	00:01
ben__	Brownster: I am having troubles ripping files to my new partion, perhaps the permissions are messed up, any ideas?	00:01
logankoester	Honestly I was very underwhelmed with fc8	00:02
kazol__	I have a problem with the system completely crashing due to compiz (possibly due to a conflict with Xgl). How can I check whether I'm using Xgl for rendering?	00:02
Flare183	!repeat \| Greevous	00:02
ubotu	Greevous: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience	00:02
logankoester	Ubuntu 7.10 is a much stronger release imho	00:02
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Ubuntu2	can anybody tell me the main dif betweeen kunbuntu and ubuntu and what they recommend	00:02
peeps	is there a utility that can help me convert a hex value to base64	00:02
Brownster	ben__, whats the mount point of the partition?	00:02
p_quarles	logankoester: I've seen similar things happen before. If you're using Firefox, try another browser	00:02
Flare183	Ubuntu2:> kubuntu is using the kde interface and ubuntu use the gnome interface	00:03
p_quarles	the LAMP stack in 7.10 is . . . problematic	00:03
ben__	Brownster: /media/files/music/	00:03
_MrPink2007_	Ubuntu2: kubuntu runs with KDE and Ubuntu runs with Gnome... I personally am not a fan of KDE but that is just a preference... to find out the exact differences you might want to check google...	00:03
logankoester	p_quarles: so I've noticed... heh	00:03
onats	i have a problem with my ubuntu 7.10 installation. sometimes the title bar of my windows disappear	00:03
onats	anyone got this problem?	00:03
SpookyET	Where is the dodge plugin?	00:03
Brownster	ben__, so what does ls -ld /media/files/music/ show?	00:03
jorgp	p_quarles: please explains	00:03
peeps	onats: do you have desktop effects enabled?	00:04
Flare183	onats:> it's a bug between compiz and emerald i have the same problem just run emerald --replace to fix it	00:04
]Spectre[	no onats	00:04
ben__	Brownster: drwxrwxrwx 3 ben ben 4096 2007-12-15 00:03 /media/files/music/	00:04
onats	peeps, yes i do.	00:04
p_quarles	jorgp: well, I saw the same thing when trying to run a PHP program in Firefox ... it opened right up in Opera, so the config was right.	00:04
whack	Is there just a command line linux	00:04
onats	flare183, what do you mean just run emerald/replace to fix?	00:04
jorgp	p_quarles: interesting	00:04
p_quarles	i normally use debian as a web server	00:05
ari_stress	good morning all :_	00:05
llamakc	logankoester, you don't have the 'php5' package installed. that metapackage usually takes care of issues for me.	00:05
Sionide21	whack: Sure, just don't install X	00:05
_MrPink2007_	whack yes I am pretty certain there is, just leave away the X-Server	00:05
jskulski	Sionide21: i followed similar stuff. but theres a point where each say "You should be able to use getent passwd and it will get ldap entries. well that just doesn't happen.	00:05
Flare183	onats:> it you run emerald --replace it fixs the title bar is was missing so emerald fixs that	00:05
Brownster	what about /media/files/	00:05
onats	ahhhhh	00:05
Sionide21	jskulski: Is there an error message or just blank or what?	00:05
whack	mr pink what is the x server	00:06
ben__	Brownster: drwxrwxrwx 6 ben root 4096 2007-12-14 23:43 /media/files/	00:06
onats	flare183, fantastic!! EET WORKS!:D thanks!	00:06
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jorgp	p_quarles: so the problematic part is php?	00:06
Flare183	onats:> see i told you	00:06
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logankoester	p_quarles: llamakc: I just installed the php5 package and opera, same problem still	00:06
Flare183	onats:> your welcome	00:06
p_quarles	i don't know, honestly, and I haven't checked out launchpad on it . . . it seems to be firefox + php5	00:06
jskulski	Sionide21: just gives me the /etc/passwd	00:06
jorgp	logankoester: is there a bug posted about it?	00:06
logankoester	Not that I could find	00:07
jorgp	hmm	00:07
jskulski	but i looked in network traffic, and the ldap server RETURNS all the entries, but getent doesn't display them	00:07
llamakc	logankoester, are you restarting apache with `sudo apache2ctl restart`	00:07
jorgp	p_quarles: does it work with any other browser?	00:07
logankoester	llamakc: damn, that did it!	00:07
logankoester	thank you!	00:07
mr_flea__	does anyone know how to manually build the mac80211 and iwlwifi packages? i googled, but the only solution i found is to download and compile the vanilla sources, something i really would like to avoid. i have kernel sources and build-dep but it still doesn't compile with the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/'". any help would be greatly appreciated.	00:07
Sionide21	jskulski: One problem I had was the server was pointed at ldapi://server when it should have been ldap://server	00:07
logankoester	llamakc: I was using /etc/init.d/apache2 restart	00:07
llamakc	btw wordpress is in the repositories too	00:08
p_quarles	jorgp: in my experience, all of them except for firefox	00:08
Brownster	try touching a file within that directory does that work?	00:08
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vasuvi	Is there any way to get Ubuntu to recognize the right <alt> key as well as the left one? Also, any (non-arcane) way to get the extra keys on the top of my keyboard to do what I want them to?	00:08
jorgp	logankoester: what did you do different?	00:08
macogw	vasuvi: right alt is AltGr	00:08
macogw	vasuvi: it's the key you use to get á and é and ß since those arent on a normal keyboard	00:08
R3B3LX	is there any good free mmos for linux? using wine or just normal linux..(no wow pls)	00:08
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Flare183	brb	00:08
logankoester	jorgp: restarted with apache2ctl instead	00:08
whack	Does the gcc come with a assembler	00:08
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jskulski	Sionide21: did you set this up with ubuntu or debian?	00:09
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timmyd803	i've got boot issues with Ubuntu	00:09
logankoester	llamakc: jorgp: but I'm having the problem still inside of a directory... it works with test.php (phpinfo();)	00:09
vasuvi	macogw: And which file can I edit to get Ubuntu to recognize AltGr as a normal alt to use when web-browsing, or bringing up a menu? ;)	00:09
logankoester	might be a permissions problem then?	00:09
timmyd803	it hangs when it loads rc.local	00:09
Sionide21	jskulski: Debian	00:09
timmyd803	!help	00:09
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	00:09
timmyd803	!boot	00:10
ubotu	Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto	00:10
logankoester	nope not a permissions issue	00:10
macogw	vasuvi: heh im looking in system > pref > keyboard > layout options. if you've ever used an old early 90s or 80s keyboard you'll probably have seen AltGr written in green on that key	00:10
logankoester	/var/www/wordpress tries to download the file even now that it has the same permissions as /var/www/test.php	00:10
logankoester	odd	00:10
whack	!news	00:10
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about news - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:10
logankoester	cause test.php works fine	00:10
llamakc	oh, you have to follow the docs in /usr/share/doc/wordpress	00:10
timmyd803	can anyone help me out?	00:10
timmyd803	i'm totally lost	00:11
logankoester	I didn't install wordpress from the repo	00:11
logankoester	I just extracted it to that directory from targz	00:11
llamakc	oh, my bad	00:11
llamakc	what does the wordpress readme say?	00:11
macogw	vasuvi: one option, if you don't use the menu key, is to make super be alt and menu be super...	00:11
macogw	vasuvi: super means the sun, apple, window, tux, or ubuntu logo (depending on your keyboard)	00:11
vasuvi	macogw: that's an interesting possibility I hadn't thought of... and I have used 80's and early 90's keyboards, but so long ago I don't even remember the AltGr	00:12
Flare183	macogw:> or the "meta" button	00:12
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logankoester	It seems to only be a problem with the wordpress subdir	00:12
logankoester	hmm	00:12
logankoester	thanks for your help guys	00:12
Kristyn	can anyone help me out?	00:12
llamakc	have you setup the database yet?	00:12
Flare183	!ask \| Krisyn	00:12
ubotu	Krisyn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	00:12
macogw	Flare183: yeah if you use escape meta alt control shift, you might need that ;P\	00:12
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Flare183	yeah	00:13
logankoester	llamakc: no, shouldn't have to at this point though	00:13
Kristyn	!ask	00:13
vasuvi	macogw: I do tend to use the super key to control Amarok, but the menu button isn't really used any	00:13
Kristyn	!ask \| Kristyn	00:13
Flare183	already done that	00:13
t3hwiz0rd	how do i manually add a monitor to xorg?	00:13
logankoester	Not having set up the database wouldn't effect the page's mime-type	00:13
macogw	vasuvi: well its in system > pref > keyboard > layout options >alt/win key behavior	00:13
Kristyn	right right	00:13
Kristyn	i've checked with ubotu	00:13
Kristyn	he can't help	00:13
vasuvi	macogw: cool, I'll try it out; thanks!	00:13
macogw	vasuvi: thats the 2nd to last	00:13
Flare183	Kristyn:> he is a bot	00:13
Kristyn	i know :D	00:13
dor0	hello guys, any idea why i have 16 desktops instead of 4 in KDE compiz?	00:13
dylan_	Hi, all. I'm wondering, is there an easy solution to setting up a LAMP-type web server on Ubuntu 7.10 desktop through synaptic, etc.? If not, what's the simplest way to get a phpmyadmin, mysql, php, apache server set up? Security is NOT important, its for personal site testing on my LAN.	00:14
Flare183	!lamp \| dylan_	00:14
ubotu	dylan_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	00:14
macogw	dylan_: use the task select	00:14
R3B3LX	yo dor0 right click ur desktop	00:14
R3B3LX	and choose 4	00:14
Ubuntu2	need java help for opera	00:14
vasuvi	macogw: interesting..."Alt and Meta are on the Alt keys (default)" seems to do the trick. So much for it being the default	00:14
jorgp	dor0: because you have a mac daddy system?	00:14
logankoester	dylan_: I'm having a hellll of a time doing the same thing right now...	00:14
llamakc	logankoester: http://pastebin.ca/816811	00:14
orochi_	Hmm...C++ is an intimidating language to try and teach yourself :/	00:14
macogw	vasuvi: odd	00:14
R3B3LX	Right click ---> Pereferences and choose 4	00:14
llamakc	for what i have in my apache2.conf	00:15
macogw	orochi_: yes, it likes to segfault more than c does	00:15
dor0	no i have a very good pc	00:15
dylan_	logankoester: ive done it before, just forgot how.	00:15
vasuvi	macogw: well, at least I got it working :)	00:15
dylan_	macogw: thx, checking it out	00:15
logankoester	dylan_: me too, but not with 7.01	00:15
logankoester	7.10*	00:15
_Roman	Is there a standard way to run a script when a user logs out of an x session? (this is using ubunut 7.10) I want individual users to have their own scripts.	00:15
dor0	is strange, the desktops 4 here in settings, but in traybar are still 16	00:15
R3B3LX	dor0: Right click ---> Pereferences and choose 4	00:15
macogw	dor0: "mac daddy" is a compliment	00:15
R3B3LX	umm	00:15
R3B3LX	mabeh change ur rows?	00:15
logankoester	llamakc: logankoester@family-hp:/var/www$ cat /etc/apache2/apache2.conf \| grep php	00:16
logankoester	logankoester@family-hp:/var/www$	00:16
logankoester	nothin	00:16
macogw	dor0: check your horizontal virtual size in ccsm	00:16
emefarr_	new install & looking for a way to install all -dev files for installed packages rather than a few at a time as I get dependency errors while installing additional packages?	00:16
dor0	just a second please	00:16
macogw	!ccsm > macogw	00:16
logankoester	llamakc: would you mind posting your whole apache2.conf?	00:16
llamakc	sure.	00:16
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silent_	]Spectre[: that's an odd problem, have you tried different drivers?	00:16
dor0	it say: horizontal 4, verical 1, desktops 4, is that correct?	00:16
macogw	emefarr_: why do you need the -dev?	00:16
macogw	dor0: set it to 1 desktop	00:17
wy	How can Ubuntu recognize my FreeAgent drive?	00:17
Ubuntu2	I have enabled java in opera it still does not work went to the java site it says that java is installed and I have the latest version	00:17
mr_flea	repost because i got disconnected: does anyone know how to manually build the mac80211 and iwlwifi packages? i googled, but the only solution i found is to download and compile the vanilla sources, something i really would like to avoid. i have kernel sources and build-dep but it still doesn't compile with the error "Kernel Makefile not found at '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/source/'". any help would be greatly appreciated.	00:17
emefarr_	compiling from source	00:17
macogw	dor0: i think	00:17
dor0	well, i put it on 1, and is working	00:17
dor0	sweet	00:17
macogw	emefarr_: if you need all the dev headers for a specific program that is packaged where you are getting the same or newer version, you can get its build dependencies with "sudo apt-get build-dep <program>"	00:17
dor0	is that a bug or i missunderstood the problem?	00:17
macogw	dor0: missunderstood	00:18
llamakc	http://pastebin.ca/816816 there's stuff in there for squirrelmail and some rewrite rules near the bottom that you won't need probably	00:18
macogw	dor0: it made 4 desktops each with 4 viewports	00:18
dor0	oh, i see	00:18
Jamesinator	When I use the GUI printing job manager to cancel a print job, the job I deleted disappears, but my printer still tries to print the page, even after restarting the cupsys process. Is there any way to force-flush the document queue?	00:18
emefarr_	macogw: Thanks! I'll try that.	00:18
askand	I was having the " Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display" problem and was told to start programs with something in front in the terminal... It was something like "DISPLAY:1 cedega"..can someone help me?	00:18
macogw	dor0: the sides of the cube aren't individual desktops to compiz. they're viewports to one big desktop. that's why they all collapse into one workspace when you switch back to metacity	00:18
dor0	btw, how can i make my cube transparent?	00:18
macogw	askand: probably display:0	00:19
logankoester	llamakc: thanks	00:19
macogw	dor0: go into the cube settings in ccsm and click the "transparency" tab	00:19
llamakc	i have my ServerName near the bottom too, don't forget to change/remove that	00:19
askand	macogw: im being told that the display:0 command cant be found	00:19
Flare183	askand:> edit your xorg.conf file and add Load "dri" to the long "load" list	00:19
askand	Flare183: have done that but doesnt help..think it is because I run xgl	00:20
macogw	askand: i dont know the command. i just know 0 is default display so unless someone logged in before you, itll be 0	00:20
Flare183	askand:> i'm running aiglx so beats me	00:20
dor0	haha, sweet, thanks mate	00:21
unbeatabl	how can i check which user is using up the most cpu/memory/bandwidth? is there some good tools or scripts for this? preferably with a gui frontend would be nice too, is mrtg the one for this?	00:21
wy	Is there a convenient tool for configuring VPN in Linux?	00:21
dor0	btw, i am using xchat, there is any other better irc client?	00:22
unbeatabl	bitchX	00:22
unbeatabl	god i love saying that =p	00:22
crdlb	bitchX is horrendously insecure	00:22
dor0	thats text mode right?	00:22
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Jamesinator	When I use the GUI printing job manager to cancel a print job, the job I deleted disappears, but my printer still tries to print the page, even after restarting the cupsys process. Is there any way to force-flush the document queue?	00:22
crdlb	if you're going to use a text-mode client, use irssi	00:23
heatmzzr	crdlb, bitc&x	00:23
qwaz	Hi all! I'm trying to setup and test fetchmail and procmail but I get an MDA error when I execute fetchmail...	00:23
unbeatabl	i just wanted to say, bitchX	00:23
unbeatabl	thats lal	00:23
pianoboy3333	how do I force remove pidgin-data and only pidgin.data	00:23
Cr3ature	how do i map my mouse thumb button to do stuff?	00:23
unbeatabl	i know bitchX sucks	00:23
qwaz	it says /usr/bin/procmail not found...but it's there	00:23
unbeatabl	anyhow, how can i check which user is using up the most cpu/memory/bandwidth? is there some good tools or scripts for this? preferably with a gui frontend would be nice too, is mrtg the one for this?	00:23
R3B3LX	yo guys im trying to find a program that will rip mp3s from a cd to ur computer.... or something that can translate it to work in a normal cd player... or something that will at least burn it	00:23
pianoboy3333	R3B3LX: sound-juicer and serpentine	00:24
logankoester	llamakc: since its only a problem with wordpress I'm just gonna use a different server that's already set up, I've got plenty laying around	00:24
logankoester	thanks though	00:24
R3B3LX	that will work?	00:24
ch8ind	i just installed ubuntu and i havent used nix0r in awhile	00:24
R3B3LX	thx	00:24
pianoboy3333	R3B3LX: yes, they are in the repositories	00:24
llamakc	ok, weird one though	00:24
ch8ind	this new xchat i think sucks balls	00:24
dylan_	R3B3LX: i believe k3b can burn mp3s to cd. various players can rip, including i think amarok (im a kde person personally)	00:24
logankoester	very	00:24
flipmode	how do i open a .rar file?	00:24
ch8ind	i want my nicklist!	00:24
logankoester	flipmode: unrar <file>	00:25
logankoester	flipmode: sudo apt-get install unrar	00:25
pianoboy3333	flipmode: isntall the unrar package	00:25
llamakc	brbeer	00:25
Flare183	!rar	00:25
ubotu	rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free	00:25
Jamesinator	Fixed it myself, thanks for the zero-responses everyone	00:25
Sajes	How do I change a user account name from the command line?	00:25
qwaz	Sajes, try "usermod"	00:26
qwaz	with, perhaps, -l	00:26
qwaz	or -d or -m	00:26
dor0	ok, one last question, i have compiz + emerald (with a nice glass theme), is there anything more what i can enable?	00:26
qwaz	then man usermod for all sorts of goodies!	00:27
blizzo1	What headers package do I need to download so I can patch some audio/video drivers that are giving me trouble? Specifically, I want to patch the cx88_alsa driver. I'm currently using 2.6.22-14-generic.	00:27
llamakc	usermod -l NEWNAME OLDNAME	00:27
wy	I want to find something like pptp-config. Where is it?	00:27
pcd\|	if my wireless card is showing as "RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI" under hardware, does that mean it was detected correctly?	00:27
desertc	question: How do I reset my video settings? Some games will leave the video in 640x480 (or whatever) when they exit, leaving my monitor in pan-and-scan mode. I generally have to reset X to fix it.	00:28
vocx	pcd\|, yes. Although it is one thing being detected and another that the drivers for it work.	00:28
vocx	desertc, if you find the answer let me know. What games? Have you played "rrotage"?	00:28
pianoboy3333	how do I force remove pidgin-data and only pidgin-data	00:29
vasuvi	dor0: BTW. I like the vanilla XChat better than the GNOME-ified version (which is awful IMHO). You can also try Konversation (even within GNOME); I like plain XChat and Konversation about equally	00:29
Johnson	hey whenever i computer goes to hibernate,(which it does on its own), and I come back, the wireless stops working. i use the command sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart but it just says ignoring eth0, ignoring wlan0, etc. any ideas	00:29
dylan_	macogw: should my `sudo tasksel install lamp-server` be sitting still at 100% progress of installing php5-mysql on a 300KB/s connection with an AMD64 CPU?	00:29
desertc	vocx: Never tried it, do you have a link for it?	00:29
pianoboy3333	Johnson: what kinda processor do you have?	00:30
pianoboy3333	Johnson_: what kinda processor do you have?	00:30
Johnson_	pianoboy3333: i have a intel dual core	00:30
desertc	vocx: can't even find it with google	00:30
dor0	brb, switching to konversation	00:31
vocx	desertc, it's actually "rrootage" And you can get it from Ubuntu repositories. Please try it.	00:31
theunixgeek	What distro has the default GNOME desktop and apps without customization?	00:31
tehm0nk	is kubuntu or ubuntu friendly with raid?	00:31
Azzmodan	theunixgeek, the regular one	00:31
theunixgeek	Azzmodan: there's a regular one? :P	00:31
tehm0nk	i dont know how to get either one to recognize the strip setup i have already	00:31
Azzmodan	theunixgeek, oh you jsut want gnome?	00:31
pianoboy3333	Johnson_: I remember in feisty my computer did that after hibernating cause of the hyperthreading with my intel P4, so I'm not sure if that's fixed or not, you should ask someone else or google the issue	00:31
theunixgeek	Azzmodan: yes	00:32
]Spectre[	bye	00:32
desertc	vocx: trying it now	00:32
p_quarles	theunixgeek: LFS.	00:32
Johnson_	k	00:32
Azzmodan	theunixgeek, you could try the gnome developer kit http://live.gnome.org/GnomeDeveloperKit	00:32
p_quarles	theunixgeek: Of course, you can also use the alternate disk to install a CLI system, then get gnome-core	00:32
]Spectre[	no silent_,I haven't tried different drivers,I think that I can use only proprietary ati drivers,or not ? thanks	00:32
]Spectre[	silent_,	00:33
theunixgeek	p_quarles: true	00:33
theunixgeek	Azzmodan: By no customization, I mean having this as the default desktop look: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.20/notes/en/figures/rnintroduction-screenshot.png	00:33
]Spectre[	ops	00:33
desertc	vocx: it looks nice! what are the keys for it? I only can use the arrows to select the game mode	00:34
vocx	theunixgeek, just install Ubuntu. It has no "customization" as you say, just a clean desktop.	00:34
desertc	vocx: Oh, I found them!	00:34
vocx	desertc, shoot!	00:34
theunixgeek	vocx: yes it does - the Human theme and no GNOME wallpaper	00:34
p_quarles	theunixgeek: Not a Gnome user myself, but I'm guessing you might have some luck with Gentoo, Slackware, or Arch. All pretty low-customization distros.	00:34
silent_	]Spectre[: try flgrx	00:35
theunixgeek	p_quarles: thanks :)	00:35
silent_	]Spectre[: I'm not sure man, try asking the channel again	00:36
Nrbelex	Hi, until recently, my wireless card would connect to all networks. Recently it stopped connecting to the network I need it to connect to but will connect to others. Any suggestions?	00:36
thor89	ho riavviato il sistema come scritto sulla guida...ho seguito passo passo tutto..ma digitando fglrxinfo non mi compare ciò che dovrebbe	00:36
LjL	!it \| thor89	00:36
ubotu	thor89: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	00:36
vocx	I always knew ubotu was italian	00:37
abdulla	check out my desktop guys :) http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33	00:37
blizzo1	Anyone know which headers package I need to download in order to patch the cx88_alsa module and recompile on a pentium4 machine?	00:37
SpookyET	How do you localise your Ubuntu desktop after installation?	00:38
vocx	blizzo1, by patching you mean actually modifying the source code and then compiling? Do you know how compilation works?	00:38
vocx	!locale	00:38
ubotu	To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf	00:38
blizzo1	vocx: yes, I mean actually modifying cx88_alsa.c	00:39
blizzo1	vocx: then unloading my old cx88_alsa.ko module and inserting the new one.	00:39
SpookyET	The pidgin spell checker is using broken American english, how do you change it?	00:39
ricanelite	why is that when I head over to sites like youtube, google video i get audio and sound but if I head over to a site allgames.com I don't get any audio at all?	00:40
alevine	i'm trying to rsync a bunch of backup sets that are mostly hard links to the same file. problem is rsync gets oom errors and dies when building the file list. anybody have a suggestion?	00:40
vocx	blizzo1, I'm no expert but I guess there is no "package" containing only patches. For that I think you would need to get the source code from upstream, or maybe launchpad.	00:40
blizzo1	vocx: I have the patches. It's the actual kernel source package from ubuntu that I'm looking for.	00:41
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vocx	alevine, how big are the files you want to backup?	00:41
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blizzo1	I already installed the linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic and i386 headers packages.	00:41
desertc	vocx: Wow, that rRootage is an amazing game. I am surprised something like that, with the great music, was made available in Free Software.	00:41
alevine	vocx: relatively small, it's my home directory	00:41
vocx	blizzo1, oh, I think the package is "linux-source-<version>" or something	00:41
alevine	vocx: but all the backup sets combined are about70GB	00:41
blizzo1	But I still can't find the cx88_alsa.c file to patch.	00:42
blizzo1	vocx, thanks.	00:42
=== allbert is now known as allbert_
desertc	vocx: I found out how to reset the display resolution! CTRL-ALT and the number pad + or -	00:43
vocx	desertc, I have a crappy video card, so I can only play rrootage for a few minutes before it crashes, and if I'm in fullscreen the screen ends up with 640x400 as you said.	00:43
Nrbelex	Hi, until recently, my wireless card would connect to all networks. Recently it stopped connecting to the network I need it to connect to but will connect to others. Any suggestions?	00:44
Jaja9292	Hello	00:44
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vocx	desertc, it's a good game, I wish I had time (or the guy at Programming Talk in the forums) to hack the code, add different modes, bosses or something, and better music, or a playlist-whatever.	00:45
=== lumpy is now known as lumpster
renegade420	heya can anyone suggest a lightweight programming editor?	00:45
cyphase	Say I want to listen to a live audio stream, but I have to stop listening to it every now and then for whatever reason. Is there a program I can use that would record the stream into a buffer as it's playing, and let me play/pause the stream whenever I need to?	00:45
desertc	vocx: Did you see my fix for the video ?	00:45
vocx	renegade420, basic text editor is a programming editor like gedit,vim, geany. Just pick one.	00:46
renegade420	vocx, cool thanks. Is geany easy to learn?	00:48
vocx	desertc, I did. Now I recall I had read it somewhere before. Not sure if it's an X or gnome specific shortcut.	00:48
f343f34	hey i have a question about ubuntu	00:48
spreadsheet	what?	00:48
f343f34	when i boot from my cd, the desktop isnt oriented right	00:48
spreadsheet	is the question?	00:48
f343f34	the toolbars are a third of the way up the screen	00:49
f343f34	like the bottom and the top arent oriented right	00:49
vocx	renegade420, I would be lying. I haven't used geany because I'm pretty happy with gedit and vim. But others seem to recommend it a lot, because it is lightweight.	00:49
f343f34	anyone got any ideas?	00:49
vocx	f343f34, I believe there is a way to set the screen resolution in the Live CD when booting. Have you tried different resolutions?	00:50
spreadsheet	can't help you, sorry	00:50
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f343f34	hmm	00:50
f343f34	no i havent tried that vocx	00:50
p_quarles	f343f34: If you have some reason to not actually install it, you should get a USB drive and use persistent mode	00:50
renegade420	vocx, I would probably opt to trying geany	00:51
renegade420	vocx, because i am running an eeepc	00:51
louist	where do i go to add an icon package?	00:51
f343f34	wait	00:51
cyphase	Okay, I've figured out a workaround.. Open the stream in VLC, use the advanced options to save it to a file, then listen to it in another VLC instance at the same time. I thought that it would only play up to the point that it was at when you opened the file, but it keeps going as the stream is being downloaded.	00:52
f343f34	hey p_quarles how to i use persistent mode?	00:52
f343f34	or how do i enter that mode	00:52
louist	how do i add icons in ubuntu?	00:53
f343f34	would changing the screen resolution not work	00:53
f343f34	?	00:53
vocx	renegade420, what is that? SOme sort of alien technology?	00:53
quaal	what program can burn bin/cue files	00:53
p_quarles	f343f34: tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDPersistence	00:53
bibstha	how do i mount a usb, like gnome does, unlike pmount through console	00:53
renegade420	vocx, LOL oh it	00:53
vocx	!cue	00:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:53
renegade420	s the cheapest laptop on the market	00:54
renegade420	http://www.eeeuser.com	00:54
bibstha	pmount works but, it doesnot display the icons on gnome desktop, i'd like a command line tool??	00:54
f343f34	thanks	00:54
desertc	quaal: K3B does it	00:55
Schiz0	How do you get rid of nm-applet? As in, stop it from running on boot	00:55
quaal	desertc, it just failed	00:55
Schiz0	I got my network card working without it	00:55
NetLarIrvine	would 512 ram 500 mgz machine be good enough for 7.10?	00:55
desertc	quaal: cdrecord -dao cuefile=FILE.cue	00:55
desertc	quaal: I'm just using Google, by the way	00:56
f343f34	but do u know why the toolbars would be 1/3 the way up the screen?	00:56
renegade420	NetLarIrvine, maybe Xubuntu	00:56
f343f34	is it the resolution is wrong	00:56
f343f34	?	00:56
f343f34	toolbars 1/3 the way up the screen = gay	00:56
NetLarIrvine	So what is minimum requirement for 7.10 ubuntu?	00:56
Benalex	Hello all, can I use a burner on other computer on Lan to burn discs using it?	00:57
desertc	renegade420: you are using an Eee PC ?	00:57
_mastro_	hi, there's someone who can edit this page of the wiki? ---> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller ? i've another card that have the same chipset with problems	00:57
desertc	NetLarIrvine: 256 MB memory is recommended	00:57
Slynderdale	Is it possible to install Gutsy Gibbon without using a live CD? I have an older version of Ubuntu installed and I wanted to know if it would be possble to reformat the drive its on and reinstall with using a boot CD?	00:57
_mastro_	i would like it fixed :)	00:57
Schiz0	Slynderdale: The alt installer.	00:57
NetLarIrvine	so if i had 512 and 500 mgz machine?	00:57
desertc	NetLarIrvine: You might want to try Xubuntu if you have a now machine	00:58
Slynderdale	Schiz0: Where can I find it?	00:58
spreadsheet	www.xubuntu.org	00:58
spreadsheet	or .com	00:58
Schiz0	Slynderdale: On the ubuntu website ? On the download page, check the box that says alt installer.	00:58
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NetLarIrvine	I do have a machine, but no CD ROM drive and I can only upgrade ubuntu	00:58
Nrbelex	Hi, until recently, my wireless card would connect to all networks. Recently it stopped connecting to the network I need it to connect to but will connect to others. Any suggestions?	00:59
desertc	NetLarIrvine: You really should learn to use google: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements	00:59
Jack_Sparrow	!install	00:59
ubotu	Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate	00:59
ricanelite	someone please head over to allgames.com and tell me if you get any audio?	00:59
Benalex	NetLarIrvine: What version of ubuntu you are running?	00:59
NetLarIrvine	6.06	01:00
spreadsheet	upgrade, please	01:00
spreadsheet	kidding	01:00
heatmzzr	ubuntu rocks, all but the fact I cant watch or rip dvds	01:00
Jack_Sparrow	!dvd	01:01
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	01:01
desertc	heatmzzr: that's due to your encrypted DVDs. my friend's DVDs work great	01:01
mozart	guys how do i connect with someone with windows as remote connection to help them out? can i do it through firefox	01:01
desertc	heatmzzr: stop purchasing encrypted dvds and you will be all set	01:01
desertc	heatmzzr: those things can get you into lots of trouble	01:01
heatmzzr	im not, im renting them lol	01:01
UserUbuntu	anyone, may help to install azureus in ubuntu. Couse i never installed a program with .jar	01:01
Benalex	NetLarIrvine: As far as I know you cannot upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10 directly... if upgrading is the only choice available to you, then upgrade to thenext version ... then to the next and so on... PLAIN PAIN IN DA BRAIN!!	01:02
silent_	heatmzzr: make a statement, download.	01:02
mozart	guys how do i connect with someone with windows as remote connection to help them out? can i do it through firefox	01:02
NetLarIrvine	oh I know	01:02
NetLarIrvine	I am upgrading to 7.04 first	01:02
desertc	heatmzzr: there are easy ways to get encrypted dvds to play on Ubuntu, but I am not allowed to talk about electronic restriction circumvention	01:02
silent_	desertc: not in this channel	01:02
NetLarIrvine	All I wanted to know what the system requirements were for 7.10?	01:02
heatmzzr	no i havent even been able to watch them yet, only had ubuntu for about a week, figure id figure it out sometime	01:02
silent_	NetLarIrvine: LOW	01:02
mozart	i need to connect to someone to help them out on the other side of the globe running windows, whats best and easy, VNC	01:03
heatmzzr	silent_? makea statement?	01:03
NetLarIrvine	my processor is 500 mgz and my ram is 500mgs	01:03
silent_	NetLarIrvine: good to go	01:03
silent_	NetLarIrvine: might be a bit choppy though, I suggest xubuntu... or, you know, buy a computer for 20 dollars and run it decently	01:04
Benalex	NetLarIrvine: anyway... if this cannot fit GutsyGibbon (which I doubt) you can instal Kbuntu.. it is for old machines	01:04
NetLarIrvine	yea i know, but the shipping on computer 20 is like 30	01:04
desertc	NetLarIrvine: Walmart is selling Linux computers for $200	01:04
NetLarIrvine	ha ha	01:04
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silent_	NetLarIrvine: look into xubuntu	01:04
tifine	join #mysql	01:05
alfermp	desertc, Wall-mart sold out ?	01:05
Jack_Sparrow	Benalex: Kubuntu is not for older machines	01:05
NetLarIrvine	can you switch to xubuntu from ubuntu?	01:05
desertc	alfermp: they do restock their merchandice, right?	01:05
NetLarIrvine	I do not have a working CD rom drive	01:05
desertc	NetLarIrvine: yes, they are just additional packages	01:05
silent_	NetLarIrvine: yes, install XFCE and make it the default session	01:05
alfermp	ok let me check on the website desertc	01:05
desertc	alfermp: buy it direct from the manufacter and they will pre-load Ubuntu on it for you	01:06
Jack_Sparrow	NetLarIrvine it will run at 500 mhz.. but a bit slow.. I would suggest Dapper 6.06 full featured and stable with lts	01:06
mozart	i need to connect to someone to help them out on the other side of the globe running windows, whats best and easy, VNC	01:06
spreadsheet	or maybe some other linux	01:06
sleepcat	http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/816860	01:06
alfermp	do u know what kind of computer is? desertc	01:06
sleepcat	can I add this command to ubuntu?	01:06
sleepcat	I'd like to call it search	01:06
Nrbelex	Hi, until recently, my wireless card would connect to all networks. Recently it stopped connecting to the network I need it to connect to but will connect to others. Any suggestions?	01:07
desertc	alfermp: all the specs are online	01:07
desertc	!wifi \| Nrbelex	01:07
ubotu	Nrbelex: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:07
utty	does anyone know of a problem setting up a dialup connection with netscape	01:07
Jack_Sparrow	sleepcat: under places you have a search function	01:07
Nrbelex	desrtc, I've searched for this issue with no luck	01:07
sleepcat	Jack_Sparrow: ??	01:07
Benalex	Sorry I meant Xubuntu	01:07
sleepcat	Jack_Sparrow: is that a command line search function that searches for text within a file?	01:08
utty	i had everything running great then no internet so had to install windows again to get help	01:08
desertc	Nrbelex: Sorry, I don't know your hardware. Does your computer vendor support Ubuntu configurations?	01:08
Benalex	NetLarIrvine: Read System Requirements https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements?highlight=%28Requirements%29	01:08
Jack_Sparrow	sleepcat: that is the problem pasting a link with small descripton.. no it will not	01:09
ouellettesr	hello i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and im trying to open the printing menu to connect to my network printer, it says Error: There was a problem connecting to the cups server, then it just closes. Can someone help me figure this out?	01:09
Nrbelex	desertc, it was working fine until very recently, so I suspect it's not a compatibility issue, although it is from the bcm43xx family	01:09
desertc	Hardware problems you just can't fix on your own? Next time, buy a computer with Ubuntu preinstalled and supported	01:09
sleepcat	NetLarIrvine: if you're having trouble with ubuntu, you may try Solaris 10. It is a bit easier to get going	01:09
spreadsheet	solaris!	01:09
spreadsheet	isn't that like 40 g?	01:09
spreadsheet	or 4?	01:09
heatmzzr	i think i must have got lucky with my vaio and installation, it was a snap. unless i want to watch a movie	01:09
desertc	heatmzzr: an encrypted movie	01:10
sleepcat	Jack_Sparrow: i'd like to get my search command placed in the /bin directories of every UNIX and unix-like system	01:10
SniperFromHell	Can anyone help me with accessing a networked printer via the wireless network?	01:10
Ttech	SniperFromHell, yea	01:10
Joshooa	Hey when I try to watch videos on google or youtube, they either wont play or they play incredibly slow. Sound works okay, but the video is incredibly skippy. Any ideas what's wrong? I've tried using both gnash and adobe for my flash but it doesn't seem to matter	01:10
Ttech	whats your issue	01:10
Jack_Sparrow	sleepcat: This isnt the place for that kind of discussion...	01:10
sleepcat	Jack_Sparrow: where is the appropriate place ?	01:10
Ttech	sleepcat, this is for ubuntu.	01:11
Ttech	Not Solaris	01:11
Jack_Sparrow	sleepcat: this is a help and support room..	01:11
desertc	joshooa: is it AMD64 Ubuntu?	01:11
Joshooa	desertc: Nope, 32bit, but it is AMD	01:11
desertc	Joshooa: nevermind then	01:12
XiXaQ	how can I force vnc to use a particular audio interface? It keeps choosing the wrong one.	01:12
desertc	XiXaQ: set the default in alsa	01:12
utty	does anyone know of a problem setting up a dialup connection with netscape	01:12
sleepcat	does ubuntu overwrite grub when doing updates? When I was triple booting with ubuntu, solaris and windows it seemed that ubuntu would overwrite grub whenever i installed a package	01:12
XiXaQ	desertc, elaborate please?	01:12
ouellettesr	HelloH i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and im trying to open the printing menu to connect to my network printer, it says Error: There was a problem connecting to the cups server, then it just closes. Can someone help me figure this out?	01:12
XiXaQ	desertc, all other applications use the right interface, just not vlc.	01:13
ilovefedora	hello	01:13
ilovefedora	i want to change my server from fedora to ubuntu	01:13
ilovefedora	is there a howto around?	01:13
YannTech	ouellettesr, try to install CUPS in synaptics panel	01:13
sleepcat	the problem was that solaris has its own version of grub that understands UFS and when ubuntu overwrote it, it made solaris unbootable	01:13
desertc	XiXaQ: oh, sorry, I thought you said VNC	01:13
ricanelite	where can I install Urban Terror?	01:13
desertc	XiXaQ: I know nothing about VLC	01:13
XiXaQ	desertc, I did. Typo :)	01:13
adelie	ilovefedora: I have always wanted to just change the repositories and just apt-get upgrade	01:13
YannTech	VLC use normaly ALSA	01:14
YannTech	do you have sound with mplayer ?	01:14
adelie	ilovefedora: then just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop	01:14
ouellettesr	YannTech: Isnt Cups installed by default?	01:14
YannTech	normaly cups is installed	01:14
p_quarles	adelie: that won't work on fedora	01:14
ilovefedora	didnt think it would	01:14
soulrider_	!dialup	01:15
ubotu	You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up	01:15
ilovefedora	my isp can install it for me i think	01:15
adelie	ilovefedora: I have actually installed a large number of fedora components into ubuntu successfully just by apt'ing yum	01:15
ilovefedora	i have a server with fasthosts	01:15
Ttech	:)	01:15
p_quarles	ilovefedora: there's no way other than to just reinstall -- the two use different package managers	01:15
XiXaQ	YannTech, I have sound. I just don't have sound on the right audio interface. I have two. Everything works perfectly in all other applications. I have to use vlc though, because the movie I'm watching has subtitles that totem doesn't recognize.	01:15
adelie	p_quarles: why, just curious?	01:15
Herbo	hello folks	01:15
ilovefedora	is there an app for ubuntu server that will allow me to setup a shared hosting service	01:16
Herbo	I've such a problem in sound card	01:16
utty	ive got everything set up for dialup even the driver but it wont work with netscape	01:16
adelie	p_quarles: aptitude is in the defora yum repository	01:16
adelie	p_quarles: fedora*	01:16
p_quarles	adelie: ok -- didn	01:16
YannTech	XiXaQ, mplayer works with subtitles (but i know this is a workaround)	01:16
p_quarles	didn't realize that :)	01:16
SniperFromHell	Hi. my problem is i dont know how to access my campus's printer over a wireless network, although i do know how to access its wireless network.	01:16
XiXaQ	YannTech, perhaps I can try.	01:16
sleepcat	how can i stop ubuntu from overwriting grub?	01:16
Herbo	I can't hear any voice and even if its maxed I hear a low voice	01:17
SniperFromHell	the network manager said to search using Windows SMB/Samba	01:17
YannTech	in VLC in settings, enable the advance option	01:17
SniperFromHell	but that didnt return any results	01:17
ouellettesr	YannTech: i have the cups	01:17
YannTech	in audio tabs you can choose many options	01:17
heatmzzr	totem and vlm, neither play my dvds	01:17
adelie	p_quarles: I havn't had any problems using yum and aptitude... but honestly I am suprized... and havn't really tried to break it	01:17
simone1	ciao a tutti	01:17
spreadsheet	heatmzzr, download restricted formats	01:17
YannTech	ouellettesr, ok if cups seems to be installed and the GUI can't work, I don't know more :(	01:17
Herbo	can anybody help me regarding this issue ?	01:17
adelie	sleepcat: it doesn't unless you tell it to	01:17
ouellettesr	ok	01:17
p_quarles	adelie: yeah, it doesn't sound like something to do with a production server, but I guess it could work	01:17
Herbo	Here's my sound card	01:17
kelsin	SniperFromHell: should be able to goto admin -> printers, it might find it with new printer, or you can select windows SMB printer then browse	01:18
ouellettesr	can anyone help me get my laptop to connect to my network printer?	01:18
YannTech	you can try to configure your printer in firefox	01:18
adelie	herbo: don't ask to ask	01:18
SniperFromHell	yes, KELSIN, i tried that (sorry for saying ur name in caps, i want you to notice the message)	01:18
adelie	!ask	01:18
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	01:18
SniperFromHell	i still got no results	01:18
Herbo	00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)	01:18
heatmzzr	spreadsheet, you mean the movies, or add something to totem	01:18
YannTech	cups listen on port : 631 ( http://localhost:631 )	01:18
sleepcat	Ubuntu does overwrite GRUB whenever I install something!!!! I know this because after I install something in ubuntu and then reboot to go into solaris, it doesn't boot.	01:19
YannTech	you can try on this way ouellettesr	01:19
SonicChao	SniperFromHell, just saying someone's name will usually ping their client, elerting them of the message.	01:19
spreadsheet	heat, yes	01:19
Herbo	adelie, I've typed my problem	01:19
kelsin	SniperFromHell: I have a good irc client that hilights the msg if my name is caps or not, and you couldn't find the printer by browsing? You should ask the network manager where to find it, and maybe just type the path in	01:19
XiXaQ	YannTech, unfortunately, that also uses the wrong interface.	01:19
sleepcat	i have to reinstall the Solaris version of GRUB which understands UFS (the filesystem that solaris uses)	01:19
heatmzzr	spreadsheet, which one? haha	01:19
ouellettesr	YannTech: i can connect there but i need to get ubuntu on my laptop to see it as the defaut printer	01:19
adelie	sleepcat: sorry. I know it can be skipped... doesn't it ask you where to install grub? and can't you just close it at that point?	01:19
larrywells	still there savetheWorld?	01:19
* SonicChao recognizes BB88		01:20
adelie	Herbo: sorry, must have missed it then.	01:20
YannTech	XiXaQ, expand the audio menu	01:20
BB88	Hello SonicChao ?	01:20
SniperFromHell	kelsin: testing the highlight thing. and yea it didnt work. ill ask next week. thanks.	01:20
YannTech	in output module > ALSA you can choose the device	01:20
Herbo	I've such a problem in sound card	01:20
XiXaQ	YannTech, I installed gmplayer..?	01:20
Herbo	I can't hear any voice and even if its maxed I hear a low voice	01:20
sleepcat	adelie: this is _after_ the install. Lets say I want to download codecs. I do this and then I try to boot into solaris, it doesn't work!	01:20
SniperFromHell	SonicChao: can you see this? i just want to make sure im doing it right	01:20
SniperFromHell	also, is it case sensitive?	01:21
YannTech	(sorry I have a french version I don't have the good name of menu)	01:21
UserUbuntu	anyone, may help to install azureus in ubuntu. Cause i never installed a program with .jar	01:21
SniperFromHell	or the name can be any casing?	01:21
kelsin	SniperFromHell: well if it's a window's shared printer that's how to add it :-( unless you ahve an error not much else we can do from here :-(	01:21
SonicChao	SniperFromHell, yes. I turned red on my screen and it beeped [xChat]	01:21
ni1	anyone know of any real time memory editors? like OllyDbg, BlackIce, or Cheat Engine for linux?	01:21
SonicChao	It*	01:21
passbe	if i have an unsupported tv tuner card (usb), am i able to emulate windows on my ubuntu box and get the usb device working throught hat ?	01:21
passbe	that*	01:21
Herbo	adelie, I can't hear any voice and even if its maxed I hear a low voice	01:21
adelie	sleepcat: I must be missing something. Sorry, havn't used solaris very much, and even then only as a VM	01:21
YannTech	passbe, maybe no but you can try	01:21
XiXaQ	YannTech, I can't find any audio menu.	01:21
passbe	YannTech: hmm ok thx	01:22
adelie	Herbo: volume is super low, but definately there?	01:22
Herbo	adelie, even if you max you volume control	01:22
YannTech	in VLC settings ?	01:22
Herbo	adelie, yup	01:22
XiXaQ	YannTech, you told me to try mplayer?	01:22
Herbo	adelie, volume is there but with low sound	01:22
adelie	Herbo: Have had the same problem. do you possibly have a volume control on your keyboard? (how it has happened to me)	01:22
XiXaQ	YannTech, there is no setting to choose sound card in vlc, as far as I can tell.	01:22
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simone1	qualcuno mi aiuta	01:22
sleepcat	adelie: if you triple boot, with windows, linux and solaris, only the solaris GRUB version understands all 3 operating systems. The one in Ubuntu doesn't understand Solaris' UFS filesystem	01:22
YannTech	yeah, mplayer is a workaround but I remember vlc have many, many, many options	01:23
Herbo	adelie, no it ain't work	01:23
Law506	can you have the desktop cube and emerald at the same time???	01:23
YannTech	XiXaQ, VLC permit to select wich sound card you want	01:23
Herbo	adelie, What does it supposed to be ?	01:23
XiXaQ	how?	01:23
adelie	Herbo: most applications, particularly media players, can set their own volume, than I am sure there is your speaker volume. There is also a sound driver volume, AND a system master volume	01:23
kelsin	Law506: the desktop cube is drawn by the windows manager (compiz or beryl if you're using an old system), emerald is the part that draws windows borders, so yes	01:23
XiXaQ	YannTech, I've searched for it for months.	01:23
Law506	hmm	01:23
Herbo	adelie, would like to see any info because I can't figure it out	01:24
sleepcat	hence, it seems like ubuntu does a check everytime there is a install or upgrade using apt-get which installs the ubuntu GRUB version thus hosing the solaris one. Then the person needs to go with a solaris boot disk to reinstall the one they want. I'd like to be able to prevent ubuntu from touching the grub that i have	01:24
SonicChao	!compiz	01:24
ubotu	Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion	01:24
Herbo	adelie, would you * ?	01:24
adelie	Harbo: So, is the sound on the gnome-panel turned all the way up?	01:24
Law506	kelsin: for some reason once I enabled emerald it wont let me select the cube option in the compiz manager	01:24
YannTech	i don't know if dcc works (ipv6 connection)	01:24
Herbo	adelie, yeah	01:24
kelsin	Law506: by compiz manager do you mean the ccsm?	01:25
adelie	Harbo: speakers are powered, and on, and turned up?	01:25
Herbo	adelie, Volume Control: Realtek ALC861 (OSS Mixer) is maxed	01:25
simone1	find matrimonio alle bahamas	01:25
XiXaQ	YannTech, if you know how, please tell me.	01:26
Herbo	adelie, everything is ok physically	01:26
SniperFromHell	If I should encounter any network errors after installing these updates, what do I do? Although I shouldn't, since I configured network settings after installing updates for the network manager, then i installed the rest of the updates after that.	01:26
adelie	Herbo: is there a volume knob physically on your speakers?	01:26
YannTech	XiXaQ, http://hades.yanntech.net/vlc-settings.png	01:26
jimmygoon	kde4?	01:26
YannTech	sorry for the french menu :s	01:26
Herbo	adelie, Its a software bug or so	01:26
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jimmygoon	!kde4	01:26
ubotu	KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4 - The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule - RC 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php	01:26
Herbo	adelie, or I've to restart with a diff modules " lsof :	01:26
Law506	kelsin: if that is what is under System-Preferences-Advanced Desktop Settings	01:26
Law506	then yes	01:26
XiXaQ	YannTech, there is no choice of sound cards there?	01:26
Herbo	adelie, nah	01:26
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YannTech	if you refresh the list	01:27
YannTech	you can choose after	01:27
Herbo	adelie, I hear a very low sound while its working in my windows	01:27
XiXaQ	ah!	01:27
XiXaQ	YannTech, you're my hero! Thanks :)	01:27
adelie	herbo: are you sure the speakers are plugged into the microphone out and not the line out? line out required powered speakers (amplifier)	01:27
Herbo	adelie, then its not a hardware issue	01:27
kelsin	Law506: so it's not giving you any messages when you click the checkbox next to the cube, just doesn't select it?	01:27
YannTech	no problem XiXaQ ;)	01:27
Herbo	adelie, its a system issue i persume	01:27
adelie	Harbo: same problem between windows and ubuntu?	01:28
Law506	kelsin: correct	01:28
kelsin	Law506: can you trying runnig it from the terminal with "ccsm" and see if you get any errors when trying to select desktop cube?	01:28
adelie	Harbo: the speakers can be in the wrong port and you will still get sound, specifically line out	01:28
Herbo	adelie, what I've mentioned Its working normally in windows and hear no sound in Ubuntu " to be honest hear a very low sound "	01:28
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Law506	kelsin: k, hang on	01:28
jimmygoon	So are there kde4 packages in gutsy-backports, a page on the site says there is supposed to be, but I don't think its accurate? I just want to test out KDE4 on my pc	01:29
nickrud	jimmygoon, I downloaded them a while ago from backports, didn't work (didn't try hard either)	01:29
YannTech	it's the time to sleep ( 02:30 AM )	01:30
Herbo	adelie, lets fix the issue likewise I've no sound recognized at all	01:30
YannTech	bye bye	01:30
adelie	Harbo: ok, caught up. try the sound test in system -> preferences -> sound? there you can try different drivers / setups and try to play test sounds	01:30
alex_	I have a problem with my xserver. I got it running but it's in 1024x768 and I don't want to ruin it again by trying to up it to 1280x1024. Thanks a lot.	01:30
Herbo	adelie, could you consider that instead ?	01:30
jimmygoon	nickrud, hum, maybe I'll see if someone else has a more "reliable" repo up	01:30
Law506	kelsin: nevermind, i had deselected Automatic Plugins and it took awway the cube, I got it now, thanks for the assist though	01:31
nickrud	jimmygoon, could be better now, there were conflicts with multiple packages having the same file in them	01:31
Mo9a7i	Hi every one ,, i got a problem with installing xine-lib saying missing cdrom ioctl ,, is there a way to avoid that ?	01:31
Alphamonkey	take your computer	01:31
Alphamonkey	and bash it against your head	01:31
nickrud	Alphamonkey, you must have a mac	01:31
Alphamonkey	that usually fixes most problems	01:31
Mo9a7i	does it ?	01:32
Alphamonkey	yup	01:32
Alphamonkey	works everytime	01:32
adelie	Harbo: ?? Sorry I didn't get what you probably explained before I got here just a bit ago, but from what you have said now, if it works in windows, and not in ubuntu, you should be able to resolve the issue through the config test in the sound preferences panel	01:32
Mo9a7i	you do it ?	01:32
Law506	I find taking the office space approach to electronics works... sometimes	01:32
Alphamonkey	yeasssssssssssssss	01:32
ricanelite	anyone could help me install urban terror?	01:32
kelsin	Law506: np glad you got it	01:32
Mo9a7i	good for you ,,	01:32
Alphamonkey	but unforunatly it has some SIDDEEE AFFE#EECTSS	01:32
n00bie	i need some guidance on how to set up wlan in ubuntu... my wlan card is a Intel proset 2200bg... i have dedicated button for enabling/disabling the card, but this doesn't work	01:32
nickrud	!wireless \| n00bie	01:32
ubotu	n00bie: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:32
n00bie	i need some guidance on how to set up wlan in ubuntu... my wlan card is a Intel proset 2200bg... i a have dedicated button for enabling/disabling the card, but this doesn't work	01:33
p_quarles	ricanelite: do you have the download? it comes with an installation script	01:33
RoAkSoAx	n00bie which ubuntu are u using?	01:33
bjbum	does anyone know if the Restricted Drivers Manager installs the very latest stable proprietary drivers like Envy does? or if they're slightly dated?	01:33
Mo9a7i	cdrom ioctls ,, anyone ?	01:33
Herbo	adelie, It can't be fixed from the config test because Its working but like you've reduce your sound volume but its not anymore	01:33
nickrud	bjbum, for gutsy, it 8.37 something	01:33
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy gibbons)	01:33
BB88	Does anybody know how I can change how Firefox in Ubuntu 7.10 handles IRC Server open requests?	01:33
ricanelite	yeah i have the install script on my desktop just can't get it running	01:33
RoAkSoAx	n00bie gutsy should recognice ipw2200	01:34
dasickis	i'm running ubuntu gutsy gibbon with all the updates but my cpu runs extremely hot	01:34
bjbum	nickrud, ahh. So if I used Envy it should give me newer drivers?	01:34
dasickis	77C	01:34
dasickis	i have hp dv5000 and i'm googled everything i could and haven't found anything that works	01:34
p_quarles	ricanelite: you'll need to run it in the shell. go to the directory, and type ./name_of_script	01:34
jals	what flag do i need to add to rsync to make it delete stuff on the destination directory that's not on the original?	01:34
ricanelite	well it is sitting on my desktop	01:34
ricanelite	i have terminal open	01:35
adelie	Harbo: well, other option, if you left click on the sound applet, there is a "open volume control". certain setups have very low volume by default. I get that with my optical sound	01:35
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: how can i verify this? (bare with me, i'm new to this :)	01:35
p_quarles	jals: the flag for that is --delete	01:35
RoAkSoAx	n00bie try iwconfig in the command line	01:35
p_quarles	ricanelite: so, move it the script to your home directory	01:35
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: http://pastebin.com/d5f92d1fa	01:36
ricanelite	okay	01:36
ricanelite	what else?	01:36
Herbo	adelie, everything is maxed in playback	01:36
RoAkSoAx	n00bie you using network-manager right?	01:36
nickrud	bjbum yes, but don't expect much support here for envy	01:36
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: hmm, no	01:36
p_quarles	ricanelite: run the script -- type ./name-of-script	01:36
maek	can anyone tell me why I cant save a profile in network manager?	01:37
RoAkSoAx	n00bie: on the right top corner is there anything to manage networks?	01:37
Herbo	adelie, can we try to reload the snd modules	01:37
jals	thanks p_quarles	01:37
adelie	Herbo: there is nothing else to turn up?	01:37
ricanelite	right now im in ricanelite@ricanelite-desktop:~$	01:37
YannTech	byebye everyone	01:37
ricanelite	do i need to move to my home? and if so how?	01:37
YannTech	ipv6 power ;-)	01:37
alphaiceman	hi everyone	01:37
Herbo	adelie, perhaps there's something wrong with the modules or sound driver configuration	01:37
p_quarles	that is your home directory	01:37
Herbo	adelie, or there's nothing to do with it at all	01:38
adelie	Herbo: dpkg --reconfigure alsa will let you manually configure it, if you really want to try that.	01:38
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: well, there's an icon where i enable/disenable both 'Networking' and 'Wireless'	01:38
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: both are checked	01:38
ricanelite	ricanelite@ricanelite-desktop:~$ ./urt40-linux-installer.sh	01:38
ricanelite	bash: ./urt40-linux-installer.sh: Permission denied	01:38
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: +can somewhere in there	01:38
alphaiceman	I'm trying to get compiz working on Dell D610 with intel graphic card, can anyone help please	01:38
RoAkSoAx	n00bie ok soy give a left click over that icon and what do you see	01:38
t3hwiz0rd	!mp3	01:39
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	01:39
p_quarles	ricanelite: sudo chown ricanelite urt40-linux-installer.sh	01:39
ricanelite	??	01:39
ricanelite	im sorry	01:39
p_quarles	if you run that command, it will allow you to run the script	01:39
adelie	Herbo: but it is really hard to say what it could be without actually witnessing the symptoms. I have about covered every problem I have seen and its fix. the `dpkg --reconfigure alsa' I have never had to do to get sound to work, but... as long a it already doesn't work, why not.	01:40
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: 'connect to other wireless network', 'create new wireless network' and 'manual configuration'	01:40
ricanelite	it went right back ricanelite@ricanelite-desktop:~$	01:40
Herbo	adelie, --reconfigure is not the correct option	01:40
adelie	Herbo: oh, btw, are you using alsa or oss?	01:40
RoAkSoAx	n00bie ok, so it seems that you can connect to wireless networks, do you have any specific one that you want to connect?	01:41
adelie	herbo: hmm... sec	01:41
Herbo	Herbo, don't know , how do I know ?	01:41
p_quarles	ricanelite: it will allow you to run the script -- you still have to run the script manually	01:41
ricanelite	okay	01:41
ricanelite	how?	01:41
p_quarles	with the command I gave you earlier	01:41
onats	how do i run commands and put them in background mode?	01:42
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p_quarles	onats: use nohup	01:42
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: yes, my own access point, though it isn't set up yet	01:42
=== Jannitax is now known as Jannita
adelie	Herbo: sorry, `debconf --reconfigure alsa-base'	01:42
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onats	p_quarles, it still doesn't run in the background	01:43
RoAkSoAx	n00bie: ok so click on 'connect to other wireless network' and enter the information of your wireless network/AP	01:43
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: in windows i know i had to push the dedicated wireless button to enable wlan, but that button doesn't work in linux	01:43
alphaiceman	doe's anyone know how to get compiz working on a dell D610	01:43
p_quarles	onats: what command are we talking about here?	01:43
onats	emerald --replace	01:43
Herbo	adelie, how do I know about alsa or oss ?	01:43
RoAkSoAx	n00bie: you have to enable wireless card by pressing that dedicated button and after that you have to setup your wireless network with 'Connect to Other Wireless Networks'	01:44
nickrud	p_quarles, nohup gedit & for example, you can even close the terminal you ran it in	01:44
Herbo	adelie, btw Unknown option: reconfigure still now work	01:44
RoAkSoAx	n00bie: you will be asked to enter the information of your network	01:44
KinPumpkinKing	my fullscreen application suddenly turns window and locks my system, only ctrl+alt+something works... anyone knows ow to figure that out?	01:44
ricanelite	sudo chown ricanelite urt40-linux-installer.sh	01:44
ricanelite	?	01:44
Herbo	adelie, not*	01:44
adelie	Herbo: If you had checked out System -> preferences -> Sound, it will tell you what sound driver is being used for each sound device, and lets you change it.	01:44
nickrud	erm, onats nohup gedit & for example, you can even close the terminal you ran it in	01:45
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: well, i don't really have a name for it yet... i tried 192.168.0.1, but that didn't work	01:45
Ose	I'm installing Ubuntu (From Fedora) with Unetbootin and it's freezing at "Detecting Hard Disks and Other Hardware".. I've had Ubuntu before (Though with Wubi) just fine.	01:45
p_quarles	onats: so, you want to run that command repeatedly? rather than just at startup?	01:45
jimmygoon	wait, why are we using "nohup" for?	01:45
Xsss4hell	I have Ubuntu Gutsy an I have a 16Mbit connection, but why is my maximum download speed 500kb/s? On Windows I have 1.9MB/s - >2MB/s	01:45
qwaz	I have a window that I would like to open down in the lower left hand corner of my desktop. I have set the window to open with a title and created a rule to match on that tile. However, when I launch the application it places the window about 200 pixels higher than where I have instructed it to be placed.	01:45
Herbo	adelie, everything is autodected	01:45
nickrud	jimmygoon, for the ability to disown the app from the terminal	01:45
Herbo	adelie, except sound capture	01:45
RoAkSoAx	n00bie you have to setup your AP to have an SSID, then you will have to setup the network configuration, it will ask you to enter the SSID and if it has an authentication method and so on	01:46
MenZa	Xsss4hell, depends on mirrors you download from.	01:46
alphaiceman	please can anyone help me with compiz on Dell D610	01:46
qwaz	All my other placement rules are working except in this area of the desktop	01:46
jimmygoon	nickrud, is that really required? why not just do "gedit &" (I really don't know any different)	01:46
Herbo	adelie, debconf --reconfigure alsa-base .. --reconfigure still unknown option	01:46
MenZa	!anyone \| alphaiceman	01:46
ubotu	alphaiceman: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	01:46
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: yes, but the dedicated button i keep talking about wont work	01:46
motherlode	hello	01:46
nickrud	jimmygoon, try that, then exit the terminal. You could also do disown <tab> after running that, though	01:46
motherlode	HEIL HITLER	01:46
motherlode	HEIL HITLER	01:46
adelie	Herbo try setting your sound out manually rather than auto detect	01:46
motherlode	HEIL HITLER	01:46
motherlode	HEIL HITLER	01:46
MenZa	!ops \| motherlode	01:46
ubotu	motherlode: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!	01:46
motherlode	HEIL HITLER	01:46
motherlode	HEIL HITLER	01:46
motherlode	HEIL HITLER	01:46
nickrud	!ops	01:47
qwaz	wtf	01:47
MenZa	Nice one, LjL	01:47
p_quarles	jimmygoon: gedit & will not work if you want to close the terminal	01:47
Xsss4hell	MenZa no, I use the same	01:47
qwaz	thank you LjL	01:47
osmosis	http://dpaste.com/28110/ /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error	01:47
bu	hola	01:47
bu	alguien habla español	01:47
LjL	!es \| bu	01:47
ubotu	bu: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	01:47
alphaiceman	ok, I have a dell latitude D610 with intel graphic card and I'm trying to get the compiz 3d desktop effect working	01:47
RoAkSoAx	n00bie: that button only enables the wireless card, using that button will turn on/off the wireless card and that doesnt mean that it will connect to a network	01:47
jimmygoon	hm, interesting, is it that way on alll gui apps? and if so what is the function of "&" then? or is it just that the terminal issues a "hangup" call and gedit close obediently?	01:47
alphaiceman	I have already install compiz manager	01:47
onats	p_quarles, i just run it once so the titlebards of my windows are replaced. right now i dont have titlebars!	01:47
bu	thanks	01:47
nickrud	& is run in the background, jimmygoon .	01:48
Ose	Install freezes at "Detecting Hard disks and other Hardware" - I'm installing Ubuntu (From Fedora) with Unetbootin. I've had Ubuntu before (Though with Wubi) just fine.	01:48
Xsss4hell	Download-Geschwindigkeit: [-]4.907 kbit/s (613 kByte/s) On windows this is over 2000	01:48
Xsss4hell	Upload-Geschwindigkeit: [++]1.091 kbit/s (136 kByte/s) On windows this is over 200	01:48
onats	nickrud, is there any other command?	01:48
Slynderdale	I'm currently dual booting Windows and Linux. The problem is, I don't have a working CD drive with boot support. I want to reformat my current linux install and install Ubuntu/Gutsy Gibbon instead. How can I do this without a boot/live CD?	01:48
Herbo	adelie, same voice in test	01:48
jimmygoon	nickrud, hm, I see. thanks for the infos, I will get out of the way now :O	01:48
qwaz	I have a window that I would like to open down in the lower left hand corner of my desktop. I have set the window to open with a title and created a rule to match on that tile. However, when I launch the application it places the window about 200 pixels higher than where I have instructed it to be placed.	01:48
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: i know, but when pushing that button a led on my laptop should lighten, but it doesn't... i should probably install some kind of driver for it...	01:48
Herbo	adelie, can you give the correct command to reconfigure alsa	01:48
IMYojimbo	anyone know Quicksilver (for Mac)?	01:48
p_quarles	onats: can you just run it in the session startup sequence?	01:48
IMYojimbo	http://groups.google.com/group/JQuickSilver/web/jquicksilver---new-features-29-11-07	01:48
alphaiceman	did you get that ubotu	01:48
Xsss4hell	howto CUT the speed limit?	01:48
osmosis	dpkg.log just says 2007-12-14 17:43:59 status half-configured munin-node 1.2.5-1	01:48
adelie	Herbo: Thanks about the last I know of. I evidently forget how to use debconf. I only use it to fix video problems. try googling debconf for howto's	01:48
adelie	herbo: gotta go unfortunately. best luck	01:49
RoAkSoAx	n00bie so that means that the functionallity of thaat button is not working but it doesnt mean that your wireless card is not working	01:49
nickrud	onats, often I run gedit & (or some other app) in a terminal, then want to close the terminal and keep gedit. I would then type disown <tab><tab> , then I can exit the terminal and keep the app	01:49
alphaiceman	I have Gutsy	01:49
jimmygoon	Slynderdale, it is possible to do a network install with ubuntu, though I've never done so	01:49
IMYojimbo	Quicksilver for linux (soon) : http://groups.google.com/group/JQuickSilver/web/jquicksilver---new-features-29-11-07	01:49
nickrud	onats, not sure if that's what you're after, what is your use case?	01:49
onats	nickrud, where do you type the disown? in the same terminal?	01:50
jimmygoon	alphaiceman, so you know ubotu is a bot	01:50
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: well, maybe not...	01:50
RoAkSoAx	n00bie just try to connect to the wireless network dont pay attention to that button	01:50
Slynderdale	jimmygoon: Do you know where I can information on it?	01:50
jimmygoon	Slynderdale, google? ubuntu wiki? lemme see what I can dig up for you	01:50
nickrud	onats, yes. it's part of terminal job control; you can play around with <app> & ; <app> ; ctl-z , fg , bg, disown	01:51
Slynderdale	jimmygoon: Thank you for your help	01:51
Ose	Slynderdale: Unetbootin is what you're looking for.	01:51
onats	nickrud, ok.. here's the scenario. right now, i don't have titlebars in my windows (bug, can be fixed by restart, but don't want that option). Accdg to flare183, i can just type emerald --replace to replace my titlebars. but when i run it, i can't close the term..	01:51
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KinPumpkinKing	if I get a new video card, what brand should I get? I mean, what are the ones that DO conflict with ubuntu 7.10?	01:51
onats	weird	01:51
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alphaiceman	need help with getting compiz working on Dell D610 with Ubunto Gutsby	01:51
nickrud	onats, simplest way around that is alt-f2 emerald --replace	01:51
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: generally people have less trouble with an nvidia card than ati	01:51
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, but I'm having trouble with an nvdia card	01:52
jimmygoon	Slynderdale, soemthing like this : http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install	01:52
nickrud	onats, but that would be a good app to learn how job control works	01:52
nickrud	lots of immediate visual feedback :)	01:52
alphaiceman	when I turn on the desktop effect, the system tells me that it doens't support it	01:52
onats	nickrud, pressing ctrl+z worked...	01:52
onats	nickrud, the titlebars remain...	01:52
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: then I'm confused by the question :) ATI/Nvidia are the only two I know of if you actually card about fast 3d graphics	01:52
Ose	Slynderdale: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html Gives a tutorial. Once you boot into it it'll download the necessary files and install.	01:52
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: shouldn't the browser load a configuration page for the router when entering 192.168.0.1 if the wlan card is active?	01:52
onats	nickrud, what is ctrl+z?	01:52
nickrud	onats, that suspends the app. now, type bg <tab>	01:52
alphaiceman	is the a driver etc. that I would need to get compiz to work on Dell D610	01:53
onats	nickrud, it shows bg %emerald	01:53
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, but I heard both nvidia and ati have trouble with Ubuntu, so I'm looking for a different brand...	01:53
Xsss4hell	Can somebody tell me why Ubuntu makes my internet download experience bad? It gives me only 4Mbit instead of possible 16Mbit, NO WINDOWS gives me the full speed. I'm surfing through eth0 so, it's not due to wlan distortions. Can somebody tell me howto make Ubuntu optimize for DSL?	01:53
ari_stress	hi all, where is the best way to download ebook?	01:53
nickrud	onats, yes, that's the only job you have running in that terminal	01:53
onats	no manual entry for bg	01:53
qwaz	I have a window that I would like to open down in the lower left hand corner of my desktop. I have set the window to open with a title and created a rule to match on that tile. However, when I launch the application it places the window about 200 pixels higher than where I have instructed it to be placed.	01:53
jimmygoon	Slynderdale, look at the section titled "Server and Network installations" : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation?highlight=%28install%29	01:53
onats	nickrud, so i take it if i close this term, it will also terminate that job?	01:53
jimmygoon	Slynderdale, that should be tons of stuff!	01:53
onats	nickrud, yup it did.	01:53
Ose	Install freezes at "Detecting Hard disks and other Hardware" - I'm installing Ubuntu (From Fedora) with Unetbootin. I've had Ubuntu before (Though with Wubi) just fine.	01:53
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: those are the main two, you can buy something less (some random brand) but you're definitely not going to get good desktop effects with it (intel is ok but I don't know if they make standalone cards)	01:54
nickrud	onats, yes. But: you can also say disown <tab><tab> (iirc it takes two) , and then close the terminal without losing emerald	01:54
mohkohn	I am having trouble sorting out permissions for Virtualbox-OSE from CVS. I am already in vboxusers	01:54
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, so, if I have an okay nvidia card that is giving me trouble, I should stick with it? :/	01:54
mohkohn	http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=3371	01:54
RoAkSoAx	n00bie: if you are connected to the network hyes	01:54
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: also i tried connecting like you said (typing a random network name)	01:54
n00bie	RoAkSoAx: because there isn't set a network name yet	01:54
n00bie	... but that doesn't seem to be wokring	01:54
n00bie	*working	01:54
onats	nickrud, let me try that.. it doesnt seem to do anything when i press <tab><tab>	01:55
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: I would suggest that yes, what card and what's your issue?	01:55
nickrud	onats, http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_77.html should give you a grip on job control	01:55
RoAkSoAx	n00bie you will have to set a network and then do that	01:55
onats	nickrud, thanks for the link. will read up	01:55
mohkohn	I had to build from CVS because I need the 2.6.24 kernel for my laptop to boot and for wireless to work.	01:55
nickrud	onats, disown <tab>	01:55
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, it's a GeForce4, 64mb... my fullscreen grames are all normal, but after a while they pop in windows mode for no reason	01:55
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, and Ubuntu stops receiving my commands	01:56
alphaiceman	Kelsin do you know how to get compiz working on intell graphic card mobile intel 915GM	01:56
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, excelt for ctrl+alt+f1 and ctrl+alt+backspace	01:56
Ose	Install freezes at "Detecting Hard disks and other Hardware" - I'm installing Ubuntu (From Fedora) with Unetbootin. I've had Ubuntu before (Though with Wubi) just fine.	01:56
kelsin	alphaiceman: not to well, it just works on my asus laptop without me doing anything	01:56
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: what full screen games are we talking about?	01:56
alphaiceman	oh , ok,	01:56
osmosis	how can I get more info on this?	01:57
osmosis	# dpkg-reconfigure munin-node	01:57
osmosis	/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: munin-node is broken or not fully installed	01:57
mohkohn	How do I set up permissions so that I can use virtual box as a regular user?	01:57
LjL	mohkohn: add yourself to the 'vboxusers' group	01:57
kelsin	alphaiceman: what happens when you try to enable desktop effects? Does it just say it can't?	01:57
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, well, flobo puyo turns into window mode but it doesn't lock up my system, but tremulous does once it goes into window mode on it's own	01:57
ari_stress	mohkohn: put your user as vbox group	01:57
alphaiceman	yes it says it can't	01:58
alphaiceman	so it goes back to the default	01:58
alphaiceman	I have compiz manager	01:58
mohkohn	ari_stress, is that in addition to vboxusers? I am already a member of vboxusers.	01:58
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: to me that doesn't sound like a graphics card issue (honeslty I have no idea though), have you tried running them in a differen Xserver? It's kindof complicate but can lead to less problems	01:58
LjL	mohkohn: no, vboxusers is enough. have you rebooted after installing virtualbox?	01:58
kelsin	alphaiceman: does "xdpyinfo \| grep -i composite" return something in a terminal?	01:58
qwaz	I have a window that I would like to open down in the lower left hand corner of my desktop. I have set the window to open with a title and created a rule to match on that tile. However, when I launch the application it places the window about 200 pixels higher than where I have instructed it to be placed.	01:59
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, I wouldn't know how to do that	01:59
mohkohn	yes LjL	01:59
alphaiceman	let me try Kelsin	01:59
ari_stress	mohkohn: i believe that's all needed	01:59
LjL	mohkohn: what's the output of « ls -l /dev/vboxdrv »?	01:59
mohkohn	http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=3371	01:59
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, different X server = different distro?	02:00
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: I would assume that the problem is something else happening, grabbing the screen from the game, and then bam... can lock up everything... honestly I don't know about how to solve it. I would obviously try to limit what else is running while playing a game	02:00
brennanos	I cant seem to convince Ubuntu to keep my display resolution settings intact between logins... it always reverts back to 1024x768	02:00
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: no no no, you can run a second X windows server with only the game running. People did it a lot with quake III and unreal etc	02:00
LjL	mohkohn: uh... i'm missing a lot of things. 1) what are those question marks? 2) why do you have a "vbox" directory in your home, and what is it? 3) well, not a question, but use "sudo -i" rather than "sudo su"	02:00
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: so like you can hit ctrl-alt-F1-6 to get to the consoles and 7 to get the the gui, you can then do F8 to get to the game	02:01
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, hmm, but I did run with nothing else open but it still did the same thing	02:01
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: but it's not the easiest thing to do, just would make it so something else can't "grab" the screen away from the game	02:01
worknsole	anyone here know how to change a user SID in samba besides with pdbedit -U (isn't working)	02:01
maybeway36	KinPumpkinKing: if F8 doesnt work, try F9	02:01
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, I see... I'll try that now, thanks	02:02
theunixgeek	How do I access my Linux partition on a Mac?	02:02
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: I would google a bit to find out if others are having that issue, but it def doesn't sound like a graphics card thing	02:02
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KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, oooh, except I need to run XQF to play the game...	02:02
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: I would also run the games from the terminal redirecting output to log files	02:02
mohkohn	LjL, It is built from CVS. The question marks come when I ls -la as a user. as root it ls -la is normal.	02:02
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, yeah, I'll try with the terminal now...	02:02
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: "game-commands 1> stdout.log 2> stderr.log" to see if any errors happen	02:02
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: so even if it crashes you mgiht be able to see an erro in those two files after reboot	02:03
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, actually I found a way of not having to reboot, I just hit ctrl+alt+backspace, that still works...	02:03
alphaiceman	no Kelsin it doesn't return anything	02:03
Ose	Install freezes at "Detecting Hard disks and other Hardware" - I'm installing Ubuntu (From Fedora) with Unetbootin. I've had Ubuntu before (Though with Wubi) just fine.	02:04
maybeway36	hmm...	02:04
n00bie	i need some guidance on how to set up wlan in ubuntu... my wlan card is a Intel proset 2200bg... i have a dedicated button for enabling/disabling the card, but this doesn't work	02:04
maybeway36	Ose: can you do Unetbootin from another OS, or use a CD?	02:04
kelsin	alphaiceman: you don't have the composite extension enabled, make sure you have the composite section in xorg.conf, one sec, finding it	02:04
Ose	My CD drive is borked and all I have installed is Fedora.	02:04
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, I'll google a little... thanks for all your help	02:04
alphaiceman	ty Kelsin	02:04
kelsin	alphaiceman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84711	02:05
Xsss4hell	Can somebody tell me why Ubuntu makes my internet download experience bad? It gives me only 4Mbit instead of possible 16Mbit, NO WINDOWS gives me the full speed. I'm surfing through eth0 so, it's not due to wlan distortions. Can somebody tell me howto make Ubuntu optimize for DSL?	02:05
kelsin	alphaiceman: don't need to read the whole thing but make sure those three lines enabled composite are in your xorg.conf (have to sudo edit, like "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"	02:05
Ose	maybeway36: My cd drive is borked and all I have installed is Fedora 8. Would that make a difference? I thought all it did was initialize the download and install?	02:06
brennanos	Ose: I had trouble with IDE installing Ubuntu just recently. I had to enable to enable the generic IDE driver in the boot parameters	02:06
maybeway36	Ose: I'm not really sure	02:06
Ose	brennanos: Hmm. How would I do that?	02:06
KinPumpkinKing	kelsin, do you know what's OpenGL's flipping?	02:06
alphaiceman	ty Kelsin, I'm going to try that	02:06
kelsin	KinPumpkinKing: nope :-(	02:06
brennanos	Ose: generic.all_generic_ide=1 as a boot parameter	02:06
darobsta	j	02:06
brennanos	Ose: not sure where or when you have the chance to do boot parameter the way you are installing	02:07
Ose	brennanos: Not sure how to setup boot parameters.. First time on Linux, mostly. Hit e on UNetbootin in GRUB?	02:07
brennanos	Ose: yes	02:07
swisgard	anybody know why tools such as nmap, scanrand, paratrace, etc always fail or just don't do anything? i have used them before on a default ubuntu installation, and they worked without me having to tweak anything	02:07
kenro	Anyone know to which directory povray textures go?	02:07
brennanos	then there will be like three lines of "stuff"	02:07
Ose	Brennanos: Okay, I'll try that then. Thanks!	02:07
swisgard	but on this laptop that doesn't seem to be the case	02:07
paynegod	hey.. im at the archive url to download the kernel source to install programs like my nvidia drivers and kppp what to i need to download? the generic headers, rt headers, generic image, the hole orginal source, or any combo i just mentioned?	02:07
brennanos	then you pick a line and hit 'e' again, then stick that string I gave you at the end	02:08
kelsin	paynegod: shoudl be able to just install the linux-headers package	02:08
paynegod	just the headers?	02:08
kelsin	paynegod: and the nvidia driver, any reason you want to use the nvidia one instaed of the nvidia-glx-new package?	02:08
kelsin	paynegod: most packages just need the headers, but it does depend on what you're installing (nvidia just needs headers, don't know about kppp)	02:08
paynegod	kelsin: i get extremely poor performance with my os on my linux machine	02:09
osmosis	/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: munin-node is broken or not fully installed Any ideas ?	02:09
osmosis	all i did was a normal apt-get install munin-node	02:09
osmosis	on a clean system	02:09
paynegod	kelsin: the frame rate i imagian is like 10 ish "guessing" just opening a program is a waiting game	02:09
n00bie	i need some guidance on how to set up wlan in ubuntu... my wlan card is a Intel proset 2200bg... i have a dedicated button for enabling/disabling the card, but this doesn't work	02:10
kelsin	paynegod: did you install the nvidia-glx-new package and did you check that direct rendering was on?	02:10
bingung1	#jakarta	02:10
LjL	mohkohn, uhm, i use the official Ubuntu package... wouldn't that be a better idea? :\| anyway, the vbox directory seems to not be executable (directories should be), so try sudo chmod u+x ~/vbox	02:10
paynegod	kelsin: direct rendering?	02:10
kelsin	paynegod: you can run "glxinfo \| grep direct" in a terminal	02:10
mohkohn	LjL the official package works for the official kernel. My laptop doesn't boot with the official kernel. I will try your suggestion. thanks.	02:11
kelsin	n00bie: the button probably won't do anything in ubuntu without other work (most likely, it depends) but the 2200 should be enabled and working by default, do you not see a list of wireless networks when you left click on the network manager applet int he top bar?	02:11
brennanos	hey, sweet, the adobe flash plugin actually works	02:11
paynegod	kelsin: ok il lgive that a try	02:11
paynegod	kelsin: would it give me the option to turn it on if its not?	02:12
kelsin	no it will just tell you if youre 3d acceleration is on or not	02:12
shamas	can somebody help me to install packages to play DVD movies and divX and Xvid	02:12
paynegod	ah ok.	02:12
kelsin	paynegod: either way I would still recommend using the ubuntu package for the nvidia drivers rather then installing the nvidia one	02:12
kenro	test	02:13
paynegod	kelsin: i assumed the drivers packed with the cd were faulty when i checked the restricted drivers manager it said it wasnt on	02:13
n00bie	kelsin: no, i don't... and there are several wireless networks around me	02:14
kelsin	paynegod: did you try to enable it from the restricted drivers manager?	02:14
shamas	hello?	02:14
kelsin	n00bie: does "iwconfig" config in the terminal list your card?	02:14
paynegod	kelsin: yea but it didnt do anything it stayed off	02:14
kelsin	paynegod: with no messages or problems at all?	02:14
kelsin	paynegod: I would try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" to see if it can actually install	02:14
paynegod	kelsin: no the window flickered and showed me it was still off	02:15
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d5f92d1fa	02:15
paynegod	kelsin: i tried it a few times in a row with same results	02:15
shamas	where can I find commands to install packages	02:15
kelsin	n00bie: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/network/interfaces	02:15
Joshooa	Can I get some help installing flash for firefox? I do the install, and it asked for my mozilla path, and I tell it /usr/bin/firefox and it tells me it is not a directory, but which firefox tells me to use that	02:15
shamas	and where do I get these "packages" such as libdvdnav4, lidvdplay0, and libdvdread3 from?	02:15
Jack_Sparrow	shamas: man apt for apt-get	02:15
kelsin	!dvd	02:15
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	02:15
p_quarles	shamas: for DVDs, follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu	02:15
kelsin	Joshooa: does running "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" not work for you?	02:16
Joshooa	kelsin: No, it downloads it but says it's not installed	02:16
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d5c86c7d3	02:16
Joshooa	kelsin: I tried that first	02:16
Jack_Sparrow	kelsin: the installer for flash has been broken since the last upgrade.	02:16
brennanos	Joshooa: I just installed that plugin	02:16
brennanos	Joshooa: like 4 minutes ago	02:17
kelsin	Jack_Sparrow: I thought it was fixed recently	02:17
brennanos	Joshooa: it installed in ~/.mozilla	02:17
Ose	Brennanos: No luck.. Stalled again. Any other ideas?	02:17
kelsin	n00bie: if you right click on the network manager applet do you have wireless enabled?	02:17
shamas	thanks guys I'll check it out :)	02:17
ConstyXIV	is there a good linux/windows benchmark program?	02:17
Jack_Sparrow	kelsin: I thought so too, but had problems again today.. the installer has not been updated for the recent flash udate. You need to grab the tar.gz from adobe and install the .so to your ~/.mozilla/plugins/	02:17
brennanos	Ose: that sucks	02:17
Joshooa	brennanos: Well it says, Download Done. md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz The Flash plugin is NOT installed.	02:17
n00bie	kelsin: yes, i do	02:17
mohkohn	LjL, thanks that sorted the permissions. I will note in my Tomboy notes.	02:17
alesan	hi, what should I do to install the java plugin on 64bit??	02:18
kelsin	Joshooa: I would listen to Jack and put the .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins	02:18
brennanos	Joshooa: yeah, I got that too, yesterday. I went directly to Adobe's download site and got it there, then ran the installer	02:18
Jack_Sparrow	ConstyXIV: you cant compare / benchmark them against each other. It is like comparing Apples and oranges.	02:18
kelsin	n00bie: does "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" give you results?	02:18
brennanos	Joshooa: but yeah, it appears that just the .so needs to be in ~/.mozilla/plugins	02:18
Ose	Brennanos: Last time I used Wubi to install Ubuntu on Windows and then transfered it to its own partition.. And then updated to 7.10. That should be the same, right?	02:18
brennanos	Ose: not sure	02:19
DarthJesus	hi	02:19
n00bie	kelsin: eth1 No scan results	02:19
Jack_Sparrow	Ose: wubi is a bad idea	02:19
paynegod	kelsin: assuming i cant get 3d acceleration working with the packaged drivers witch header package do i need to get the nvidia package to compile?	02:19
Joshooa	I don't have ~/.mozilla/plugins	02:19
brennanos	Joshooa: odd	02:19
kelsin	paynegod: normall linux-headers will get what you need	02:19
Ose	Jack_Sparrow: That's what I figured.. I hadn't discovered UNetbootin at the time. I used UNet for Fedora, but I'd like to switch back to Ubuntu.	02:20
paynegod	kelsin: generic?	02:20
Joshooa	Whatever i put for Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,	02:20
Joshooa	or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): wont work	02:20
Jack_Sparrow	Joshooa: hold off for a day or so. they will get it straightened out	02:20
Ose	Jack_Sparrow: It freezes at detecting hardware, though.	02:20
cylence	good evening/day/morning :)	02:20
kelsin	paynegod: there should be a packaged called "linux-headers"	02:20
brennanos	Joshooa: try downloading the installer from Adobe... it should report your Firefox install directory	02:20
kelsin	paynegod: a virtual package pointing to what you need	02:20
Joshooa	brennanos: I am currently using the installer from adobe	02:20
kelsin	paynegod: so a "sudo apt-get install linux-headers" should suffice	02:20
paynegod	theres several types labled generic,rt,virtual,server ect.	02:20
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Jack_Sparrow	Ose: use the alt cd or F6 at start - install then boot options.	02:20
cylence	can anyone remind me how I can restart my init.ds stuff, as in if I make a change, how can I set it in motion	02:20
alphaiceman	Hi Kelsin, when I perform a sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf I got an empty file? should there be something?	02:21
paynegod	kelsin: my linux system isnt internet able right now im flash driveing everything to transfer over	02:21
kelsin	Joshooa: if you're trying to install to /usr/lib are you running as sudo?	02:21
p_quarles	cylence: sudo /etc/init.d/program-name restart	02:21
brennanos	Joshooa: and where does it tell you your FIrefox install is?	02:21
Joshooa	brennanos: It wants my installation path, and I can't find it. I tell it what which firefox says, it says no, I try /home/joshua/.mozilla, it says no, I try /home/joshua/.mozilla/firefox, it says no	02:21
Ose	Jack_Sparrow: WIth Unetbootin? My CD drive doesn't work so I'm stuck with this method.	02:21
jdw	cylence: sudo /etc/init.d/<whatever> restart	02:21
Joshooa	kelsin: I am running it as Sudo now, have tried it non root and as root	02:21
Jack_Sparrow	!install \| Ose	02:21
ubotu	Ose: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate	02:21
Joshooa	which firefox gives me /usr/bin/firefox	02:21
brennanos	Joshooa: and you dont have a .mozilla directory in your home folder?	02:22
kelsin	alphaiceman: by default nothing is there, it uses defaults, try adding on ly those lines, if that doesn't work obviously remove them to get back to normal	02:22
Joshooa	brennanos: No I have .mozilla	02:22
cylence	jdw: thank you!!! geesh lol	02:22
alphaiceman	ok	02:22
brennanos	Joshooa: but no plugins folder?	02:22
Joshooa	brennanos: Then firefox in that	02:22
Joshooa	brennanos: No, no plugins	02:22
alphaiceman	thanks	02:22
jdw	cylence: no prob	02:22
kelsin	paynegod: most likely you need the generic if you're running the generic kernel which most likely you are	02:22
brennanos	make a plugins folder	02:22
cylence	jdw: is there a way to restart pretty much everything in that way?	02:22
brennanos	then copy that .so file into it	02:22
Joshooa	brennanos: In firefox, I have pluginreg.dat, but that's the only reference to plugin I can find	02:22
cylence	everything = in the init.d dir	02:22
jdw	cylence: Not really. I would think rebooting is the quickest way to restart everything.	02:23
Joshooa	brennanos: And I had gnash installed, and about:plugins showed me it was installed, but it wouldn't work, firefox kept telling me to download plugins	02:23
alesan	!java	02:23
ubotu	To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre	02:23
Joshooa	Or just not playing	02:23
paynegod	kensin: ok thanks i havent changed anything its a fresh install from cd	02:23
cylence	jdw: fair enough, thanks again	02:23
jdw	cylence: you could do an init 1 then an init 3 (or is it init 5 in Ubuntu?). That will kind of do wha you want...	02:23
muuluu	hi	02:24
muuluu	anyone here	02:24
muuluu	Q? PLS?	02:24
kelsin	!anyone \| muuluu	02:24
ubotu	muuluu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	02:24
Jack_Sparrow	!ask \| muuluu	02:24
ubotu	muuluu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	02:24
n00bie	kelsin: what should i do then? i'm desperate to make wlan work :-)	02:24
muuluu	ok	02:25
muuluu	thanks	02:25
cylence	jdw: not sure about ubuntu, but very good point!	02:25
paynegod	kelsin: would have ben nice if the headers were pre-packaged in the distro cd	02:25
cylence	jdw: thank you, it's been a while since I worked in linux at all ;) so that helped a lot	02:25
jdw	cylence: glad to help	02:25
Joshooa	Where else could i try for a valid installation path of firefox?	02:25
Jack_Sparrow	paynegod: What you have them take out to put the headers in?	02:25
kelsin	n00bie: does "dmesg \| grep -i eth1" give anything alarming?	02:26
kelsin	paynegod: most people don't need them on the cd, there's only so much space	02:26
muuluu	what types of hardwares are compotable with ubuntu? Mine is core to 2 duo 6600 Geforce 7300 gs asus MB?	02:26
swisgard	anybody know why tools such as nmap, scanrand, paratrace, etc always fail or just don't do anything? i have used them before on a default ubuntu installation, and they worked without me having to tweak anything	02:26
kelsin	muuluu: you should be fine	02:26
alphaiceman	kelsin, I get an error, file doesn't exist can't save file, what do I do?	02:26
jdw	swisgard: what are the errors?	02:26
paynegod	Jack_Sparrow: i dunno.. maybe overburn it at the end of the cd maybe?? ;-)	02:26
muuluu	but any type of linux has freezing problem	02:27
kelsin	alphaiceman: what do you mean? what exactly are you doing when getting that error?	02:27
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d3b98bc2b	02:27
swisgard	jdw: with paratrace and scanrand they just sit there and never do anything. and nmap usually gives a "connection reset by peer" flood of messages and then says that all ports are open	02:27
kelsin	muuluu: what?	02:27
Jack_Sparrow	paynegod: IT is a subject for offtopic.. not the help room	02:27
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muuluu	i asked here and google can't find the reason?	02:27
Myrtti	paynegod: most of people don't need them	02:27
kelsin	Mudkipz: are you saying you have ubuntu install and are getting freezes a lot?	02:28
Jack_Sparrow	!hardware \| muuluu	02:28
ubotu	muuluu: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection	02:28
muuluu	all the linux has freezing problem on my machine like ubuntu mandriva suse fedora	02:28
jdw	swisgard: OK, dunno about paratrace and scanrand, but the nmap thing sounds like a network issue. Are you nmapping a server that may have a firewall on it?	02:28
alphaiceman	well I do a sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf then I copy and paste those three lines to enable compsite and perform a save	02:28
ch8ind	uhh if i delete something on a mounted nfs drive were does that go lol	02:28
swisgard	jdw: yes. but i've been able to nmap the same stuff before.	02:28
kelsin	ch8ind: deleted it with the gnome file manager?	02:28
jdw	swisgard: have you tried the -p0 option with nmap?	02:28
swisgard	jdw: and paratrace is for that purpose, mapping firewalls.	02:28
swisgard	jdw: yes	02:28
ch8ind	i selected it and sent it to the trash	02:29
ch8ind	its not in the trash can	02:29
alphaiceman	but I get an error saying that the file doen't exist and that I can't save it	02:29
Jack_Sparrow	alphaiceman: that is a bad command to use.. it can really mess up your permissions... use gksudo gedit ... gksudo for all gui apps	02:29
Joshooa	Does it matter where I run the installer from?	02:29
swisgard	jdw: i am behind a router, but i don't see why that would be holding it up. also tor and privoxy don't work.	02:29
muuluu	is there anyone can say what the problem is?	02:29
kelsin	alphaiceman: yeah try what Jack_Sparrow says and use gksudo	02:29
Jack_Sparrow	alphaiceman: and note X11 not x11	02:29
onats	what's a good keylogger program?	02:29
alphaiceman	yes thanks guys	02:29
Jack_Sparrow	np	02:29
muuluu	or the hardware to recoomend?	02:30
muuluu	sorry recommend	02:30
kelsin	n00bie: can you pastebin "lsmod"	02:30
muuluu	hnm noone answer again!!!	02:30
jdw	swisgard: Hmmm...well, I guess the logical thing to do next would be to bypass the router and try these tools. That would at least eliminate the router as a problem. Seems to me it must be something on your end, though, if you can't use these tools on any remote host	02:30
brennanos	Joshooa: have you tried just manually copying the .so file to ~/.mozilla/plugins?	02:30
brennanos	Joshooa: just create the plugins directory yourself	02:31
Joshooa	No Ij ust got it	02:31
ch8ind	woot found it	02:31
ch8ind	i was scared for a moment	02:31
kelsin	muuluu: have you tried disabling acpi with any of these distros?	02:31
ch8ind	:D	02:31
Joshooa	brennanos: I exited and did it again, and this time it just said, "Do you want to install it here?" and I said yes, and it did it	02:31
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d2251de95	02:31
swisgard	jdw: another possibility perhaps is that i'm just using an internal wireless antenna, rather than a wired connection like i used to have. i know this obviously makes a difference for sniffing (no wire to sniff from) but for these kinds of tools should not make a difference should it?	02:31
Jack_Sparrow	muuluu: I showed you the link for supported hardware... Did you read it?	02:31
muuluu	yes i tried that	02:31
Jack_Sparrow	People..goodnight, I am too tired to continue... play nice..	02:32
muuluu	ok i'll red it	02:32
Joshooa	brennanos: I wonder wtf happened, I've been trying to get flash going for days	02:32
kelsin	n00bie: try a "sudo modprobe -r ipw2200 && sudo modprobe ipw2200"	02:32
muuluu	thansk jack	02:32
Joshooa	brennanos: Anyway it works now! On to youtube!	02:32
jdw	swisgard: It won't for nmap (not sure about the other tools). I use it on wireless all the time.	02:32
muuluu	goodnight	02:32
kelsin	n00bie: and then the "sudo iwlist eth1 scan" again	02:32
brennanos	Joshooa: excellent	02:32
Joshooa	brennanos: And now there is a plugins directory	02:32
n00bie	kelsin: eth1 No scan results	02:33
kelsin	n00bie: try "sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower on"	02:34
kelsin	n00bie: then that list command again	02:34
wy	help! How can I restore my xorg settings? I don't have the original xorg.conf	02:34
alphaiceman	I added the three lines, and saved the file, but I still get desktop effects can't be enabled	02:35
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d6b1f240f	02:35
kelsin	alphaiceman: is compoisite enabled? "xdpyinfo \| grep -i composite" returns something?	02:35
n00bie	(didn't proceed with the list command)	02:35
onats	!logger	02:36
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about logger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:36
onats	!keylogger	02:36
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about keylogger - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:36
alphaiceman	well it comes back with composite	02:36
LjL	!fishing > onats (onats, see the private message from Ubotu)	02:37
LjL	!info lkl > onats	02:37
FluxD	!ubotu	02:37
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	02:37
onats	ljl, ty	02:37
kelsin	n00bie: can you try "sudo iwconfig eth1 txpower 20"	02:38
kelsin	alphaiceman: ok so one thing at least set up	02:38
foso	can anyone point me to the dawn of ubuntu login manager? i cant find it now, thanks	02:38
kelsin	alphaiceman: if you run ccms in the terminal, when you try and enable do you get any errors?	02:39
n00bie	kelsin: Error for wireless request "Set Tx Power" (8B26) :	02:39
n00bie	SET failed on device eth1 ; Input/output error.	02:39
kelsin	n00bie: damn this is odd :-(	02:39
muuluu	well	02:40
kelsin	n00bie: can you paste the output of lspci?	02:40
alphaiceman	well I get into compiz manager, then I try to enable effect under appearance and it give's me an error after toggling the graphics or trying saying it can't enable effects	02:41
muuluu	i really like to learn linux but but freezing problem makes me slow down and stack even make me give up?	02:41
Krisiun	Hello, when trying to get suspend working on my desktop pc. In bios i can choose from S1, S3 or auto. Which should i use?	02:41
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d3a66414c	02:41
kelsin	alphaiceman: yes I know, can you run "gnome-appearance-properties" in a terminal and try to enable effects and if it fails see if any errors appear in the terminal?	02:42
Myrtti	muuluu: since it's freezing with many distros...	02:42
kelsin	Krisiun: whichever works? S3 is better but might not work on more hardware then S1	02:42
kayce	hello, i need help on making a logical hdd array, using 2 250gb hard drives for 500gb on ubuntu 7.10, can someone help?	02:42
bigal	!fglx	02:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fglx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:42
bigal	!ati	02:42
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	02:42
kelsin	muuluu: I didn't see an answer if you said this before, have you tried disabling acpi?	02:42
JoshBorke	which module in compiz enables the mode to show all open windows on the current screen?	02:43
Myrtti	muuluu: have you considered the problem might be the hardware?	02:43
Krisiun	kelsin: well, ive tried S3 and auto and neither work so ill give S1 a try later, thanks	02:43
muuluu	i tried acpi=off	02:43
Myrtti	:-/	02:43
porthose	!java	02:43
ubotu	To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre	02:43
kelsin	n00bie: I can't figure it out, your stuff looks EXACTLY like mine except no txpower and of coursenot giving any results scanning	02:43
muuluu	yes it might be coz of hardware like my MB Asus and GPU Geforce 7300 GS	02:43
muuluu	i searched 3 weeks now	02:44
Rafabe	hi...what are the reasons why GRUB would fail installing?	02:44
muuluu	i tried all the methods from google]	02:44
n00bie	kelsin: hmm, darn ;(	02:44
Rafabe	during installation, that's where it fails. I'd previously installed successfully.	02:44
kelsin	n00bie: I would assume it has to do with radio off and no txpower but the two commands to change that are failing :-( so I don' tknow	02:45
muuluu	noapic, nopic acpi=off changes mouse freezing to desktop freeze?	02:45
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n00bie	kelsin: what is txpower	02:45
n00bie	?	02:46
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muuluu	should i try changing GPU?	02:46
muuluu	or MB	02:46
kelsin	n00bie: the amount of power to use when sending signals, it's also the only thing differen in your and mine iwconfig outputs	02:46
kayce	does anyone know how to set up a 500gb logical array using 2 250gb hdd's?	02:46
kelsin	n00bie: has anything appeared at the end of the dmesg output after running the txpower commands?	02:46
muuluu	use partition manager	02:46
Myrtti	muuluu: have you run memtest?	02:46
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muuluu	yes it's ok	02:47
Myrtti	for how long did you run it?	02:47
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muuluu	it's been 3 weeks until oo:00 till 4 am everyday	02:47
kelsin	muuluu: you've been running memtest for 3 weeks?	02:47
n00bie	kelsin: [ 6998.592000] ipw2200: Failed to send TX_POWER: Command timed out.	02:48
n00bie	[ 7289.136000] ipw2200: Failed to send TX_POWER: Command timed out.	02:48
kayce	im on the lie cd atm... wth was that, everything just changed on my screen	02:48
n00bie	kelsin: wait, there are more lines... i'll paste	02:48
kelsin	n00bie: k	02:48
muuluu	no i mean, i'm tying to fix the issue it's been 3 weeks now	02:48
bigal	!ati	02:49
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	02:49
Myrtti	!paste \| n00bie	02:49
ubotu	n00bie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	02:49
muuluu	i tried couple of time did that (memtest)	02:49
Myrtti	muuluu: try running it overnight	02:49
muuluu	now it's 3 o'clock in uk	02:49
bobgill	What would be the command to copy files from one folder to another, skipping files that are the same ?	02:49
nonoo	unban me from #kubuntu someone	02:50
nonoo	ardachcile is a faggit	02:50
kelsin	bobgill: rsync can handle that	02:50
muuluu	hehe lol i'm tired now have to sleep but have to learn	02:50
Myrtti	muuluu: and two hours more in Finland	02:50
Myrtti	;-)	02:50
muuluu	hehe lol	02:50
LjL	nonoo: #ubuntu-ops	02:50
Samussamus	Are there a ubuntu flavor for picture production?	02:50
Samussamus	I do a photo studio and I would like to use ubuntu on it	02:51
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alphaiceman	I open preference appearance visual effects and enable extra effects, the lcd flickers and then I get desktop effect could not be enabled, do I need the 915resolution	02:51
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d29ec2bad	02:51
muuluu	i work 48 hoursa week and 4-5 hours dleep gonna die soon :(	02:51
chuckf	does anyone know who plans the UDS?	02:52
muuluu	i really need to learn or die i've got only 2 way learn or give up but can't give up hehe	02:52
kelsin	n00bie: can you hit your wireless on/off button once, and then run "sudo modprobe -r ipw2200 && sudo modprobe ipw2200" and then see if the iwconfig output is better	02:52
muuluu	sorry not me ;-)	02:52
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muuluu	ididn't plan that UDS ;-	02:53
muuluu	)	02:53
n00bie	kelsin: it's the same	02:54
kjp2	is there a way to have avahi broadcast dns information? ie that the server X is at 10.0.1.195	02:54
Oscar_T	#ubunto beginners	02:54
kelsin	n00bie: try one more thing, run "sudo modprobe -r ipw2200" then hit that wireless button or whatever then "sudo modprobe ipw2200"	02:54
kelsin	n00bie: after that can you paste the end of dmesg again?	02:54
muuluu	ok noone gonna help me to learn it i'm so sad i don't wanna stay forever with Windows	02:55
zarac	any suggestions for a gui media players?	02:55
kelsin	zarac: people enjoy rhythmbox, banshee, listen or exaile. I like mpd combined with sonata	02:55
Menisk	muuluu, what do you wanna learn?	02:55
zarac	thanks kelsin =D	02:55
muuluu	yeah, I'D REALLY LIKE TO LEARN IT	02:56
Menisk	muuluu, What is it you want to learn?	02:56
muuluu	Linux	02:56
chuckf	what do you know about it?	02:57
muuluu	?	02:57
Menisk	muuluu, Install it and try it then. Or run the live CD.	02:57
cristhian	u may think im a dreamer but im not the only one. is there somethin like Sony Vegas video editor for linux ubuntu ?	02:57
n00bie	kelsin: http://pastebin.com/d53aa53ea (i tried next last commands you gave me a few times, as i wasn't sure if i had pushed the button before or not)	02:57
muuluu	hehe i'm trying but no help	02:57
jdw	Any MOTU's in here?	02:57
Menisk	muuluu, What are you stuck on?	02:57
muuluu	3 weeks now everyday even google can't help me	02:57
Menisk	muuluu, It helps if we know what the issue is so we can help.	02:58
muuluu	freezing problem makes me stop learning everything	02:58
Menisk	muuluu, You need to be specific. When do you freeze?	02:58
kelsin	n00bie: what key is your wireless on/off key?	02:58
muuluu	first mouse stops then i tried acpi=off it's makes worse, MAchine stops freezing	02:59
Myrtti	muuluu: what gpu driver do you have?	02:59
cristhian	is there any full featured video editor for linux ubuntu ?	02:59
kelsin	n00bie: some people say their bios's have an option to turn off the wireless on/off switch, I would try doing that as well, so that you CAN'T turn it off etc	02:59
muuluu	any time i don't really know any application anytine	02:59
n00bie	kelsin: it's a shortcut button (intended for windows i guess)	02:59
Ttech2	I need a little help. OR I have a question, is there a better start menu for Ubutnu? Faster editing? Etc?	03:00
kelsin	n00bie: that line about the key being off in dmesg is DEF it, what type of computer do you have?	03:00
muuluu	but not long very soon about max time 15 min	03:00
n00bie	kelsin: it's an aopen tundra 1557e	03:00
kelsin	n00bie: I would def check in the bios and see if you can turn the wireless switch off	03:00
whyameye_	would I install 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu for Intel Core Duo (iMac)?	03:00
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kelsin	whyameye_: I always recommend installing 32bit no matter what	03:01
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Menisk	whyameye_, Do 32. You can do both but 64 has compatability issues.	03:01
kelsin	whyameye_: just imo 64bit is more trouble then worth for desktop use	03:01
n00bie	kelsin: ok, i will try that	03:01
n00bie	kelsin: thank you for now	03:01
muuluu	but there is on google most of the problem bug is with 64?	03:01
kelsin	n00bie: but that is your issue, obviously solving it is not trivial, but your wireless card thinks it's off somehow :-(	03:01
whyameye_	kelsin: but it will run 64, huh? I've installed 64 on other machines with the ia32 libs and if I have trouble I just install the 32 bit apps and am fine.	03:01
kelsin	whyameye_: honestly I don't know :) sorry	03:02
whyameye_	Menisk: 64 has compatibility isssues with core duo or Imac specifically or just in general has compat issues?	03:02
Menisk	whyameye_, Don't use 64bit unless you have a good reason. For everydays stuff there is no beneifit and it has compat issues.	03:02
Menisk	whyameye_, It has issues because more dev focus is on 32 as it s used more.	03:03
Menisk	whyameye_, 64 will become better when more people use it.	03:03
cristhian	come on there must be a video edition lover at here. dont disappoint me !	03:03
whyameye_	but I am confirming core duo is a 64 bit processor? That's the part I didn't know...	03:04
Menisk	whyameye_, Core 2 duo is 64bit.	03:04
muuluu	hnm when i talk about freezing thing everyone run away from me???	03:04
cristhian	please videoLover tell me a full featured video editor for my ubuntu! im gettin crazy	03:05
mzracer360	anyone recommend me a good text-based CD ripping software that I can use with my Ubuntu 7.10 server edition? Thanks!	03:06
kayce	there is bound to be one	03:06
bigal	how determine my x version	03:06
muuluu	freezing problem anyone can help?	03:06
Menisk	muuluu, We can't help when you're not specific about it.	03:06
kelsin	cristhian: cinelerra is the only one I've ever heard of	03:06
Rodietze	;(	03:06
whyameye_	mzracer360: cdrdao	03:06
whyameye_	mzracer360: sorry I misread. I don't know about ripping.	03:07
c0mp13371331337_	Anyone here using a Logitech Access keyboard?	03:07
kelsin	muuluu: you have an EXTREMELY generic issue. without more info we've said everything we can, check the ram, check the power supply,, check your graphics card, try acpi etc	03:07
cristhian	thnx at least i have an idea now	03:07
Rodietze	can't isntall it on my HP Pavillion laptop	03:07
muuluu	Well i'll start everything with hardware	03:07
Rodietze	does that really work on hp laptops?	03:08
kayce	i use a wireless logitech keyboard and mouse	03:08
BB88	How can I edit the default programs that are associated with .mp3 opening?	03:08
thejinx0r	Hi Guys, I'm trying to customize my own kernel. I was wondering if the info about a setting is not enough about what it does, where can I find out what it does?	03:08
kelsin	BB88: right click on an mp3 and goto propertire and then the openwith tab	03:08
c0mp13371331337_	Kayce - Does your keyboard have Vol +/- keys?	03:08
tehm0nk	does mdadm have any settings that can be tweaked or something	03:08
kelsin	thejinx0r: the source unfortunately, or just googling it	03:08
kayce	yes, need setpoint for them to work	03:08
BB88	kelsin: Thank you.	03:08
kayce	in which Logitech doesnt suport Linux	03:09
c0mp13371331337_	kayce - Setpoint, is that a program?	03:09
kayce	with setpoint at least	03:09
tehm0nk	mdadm is installed, but it will not recognize my raid stripe setup	03:09
kayce	for wireless as far as i know, yes	03:09
thejinx0r	kelsin: oh well, google hasn't been too friendly with me in the past couple days with kernel customization. Thanks anyways. Maybe I'll hit break with google soon enough :)	03:09
kelsin	thejinx0r: yeah there really isn't a one stop shop for random kernel config settings unfortunately	03:10
kayce	wired may have its own program, but Logitech still doesnt support Linux, unfortunatly	03:10
kelsin	thejinx0r: (afaik, that I've found)	03:10
c0mp13371331337_	kayce - Well mine isn't wireless, but the volume buttons work very oddly. Regardless of the current volume level, Volume Down mutes, and volume up unmutes but leaves the volume at 0%, regardless of how many times I press it.	03:11
kelsin	c0mp13371331337_: did you try System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts and reassigning the keys to volume up and volume down again?	03:11
mzracer360	anyone else know of a good text-based CD ripping software that I can use with my Ubuntu 7.10 server edition?	03:12
BB88	Anybody know if Wine Emulator will allow Visual Basic 6.0 to run?	03:12
kelsin	mzracer360: I think abcde is good, I havn't used it though	03:12
c0mp13371331337_	kelsin - oh yes, been all through the keyboard shortcuts, keymaps, etc. It all points keys correctly, but doesn't seem to work.	03:12
kelsin	BB88: Wine is not an emulator! (Sorry I actually don't have any useful info about your question, probably should check the wine appdb)	03:12
kayce	hm..	03:13
abdulla	what is a light good app to open .rar files?	03:13
kelsin	abdulla: if you install the rar package then the gnome file-roller app can open them like tar.gz and zipfiles	03:13
BB88	kelsin: The title in the depositories is quite misleading 'Wine Windows Emulator', but thank you nonetheless.	03:13
abdulla	where is rar package ? in add/remove or synaptic kelsin	03:14
kelsin	BB88: yeah I know :-( even though the title contradicts that title :-(	03:14
wy	How can I tell which package is providing a file?	03:14
Stupid^Kid	i wan't to study Gimp so i open the home page of gimp.org	03:14
kelsin	abdulla: search synaptic for rar, I just normally install the rar and unrar-free packages	03:14
Wing	wy: Install the apt-file package and run apt-file search <filename>	03:15
abdulla	thanks kelsin	03:15
muuluu	i have custom built Machine with GPU: Geforce 7300GS CPU: Core to duo 6600 MB: Asus P5ND2 SE first Mouse freezing, i tried UBS Legacy off on Bios settings Desktop freeze, tried ACPI=off Desktop freeze with any applications running random time changed graphinc drivers from Nvidia site, Ad or Remove Synaptic package MGR, With all types of Linux(Suse Fedora Ubuntu Mandriva) ?	03:15
kelsin	wy: dpkg -S <file>	03:15
Wing	wy: Or what kelsin said.	03:15
wy	Thanks!	03:15
Stupid^Kid	i wonder what's the difference between docs and tutorials	03:15
kelsin	wy: the dpkg is for installed package,s you need to install apt-file like Wing said to find stuff in packages you don't have installed	03:15
Rodietze	muuluu I have the same problems	03:15
Rodietze	muuluu but I got a laptop, I always used linux but this is impossible now, NO LINUX distro runs on it...	03:16
muuluu	Rodietze What is ur HArdware?	03:16
Rodietze	HP Pavillion 2gb ram, hd sata 160 gb, nvidia 7150M	03:16
Rodietze	amd Turion64 x2	03:16
muuluu	M	03:16
Rodietze	dual core	03:16
muuluu	Mboard?	03:16
muuluu	is it ASUS?	03:17
muuluu	chip? is it Nforce?	03:17
Rodietze	yeah asu	03:17
Rodietze	asus	03:17
Jack_Sparrow	muuluu: and if you run vesa mode for video do you guys have the same problems? or just trying to up the res with the nvidia drivers?	03:17
Rodietze	nforce	03:17
wy	It seems it hangs at "Setting up apt-file (2.0.8.2ubuntu2) ..."	03:18
Rodietze	Jack_Sparrow vesa? haven't tried just, nv and vga	03:18
muuluu	MOst of the problems Nvidia with Asus MB hnm?!!!	03:18
kelsin	wy: it take a LONG TIME, think about what it's able to do lol	03:18
kelsin	wy: look for filenames in packages that you don't have installed, thats like 15000 packages	03:18
muuluu	i tried but no diff?	03:18
Rodietze	Jack_Sparrow it isn't possible with Ubuntu... ubuntu just can't start the X when installing...	03:18
wy	kelsin: Gosh...	03:18
Rodietze	muuluu yeah and I thought that was a good config....	03:19
Jack_Sparrow	Rodietze: do you get to cli?	03:19
Rodietze	always used to be for me..	03:19
kelsin	wy: I mean on my systesm it took like 5-10 minutes but still :) it does look like it's hung, just let it finish :)	03:19
Rodietze	Jack_Sparrow cli?	03:19
Jack_Sparrow	Rodietze: linux version of DOS prompt command line interface.	03:19
Rodietze	nope	03:20
Rodietze	should I get that ?	03:20
Jack_Sparrow	Rodietze: if you get to there try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	03:20
Rodietze	oh	03:20
Jack_Sparrow	Rodietze: get the alternate cd text installer.	03:20
muuluu	how to get that CLI thing?	03:20
Rodietze	oh the alternate cd text installer? what is this option when about to install ubuntu?	03:21
Rodietze	nogui ?	03:21
Jack_Sparrow	I only booted back to grab my mail..	03:21
Rodietze	ok I'll turn it on and put the ubuntu CD on the driver	03:21
Jack_Sparrow	alternatecd is text based installer for Ubuntu .. yes, you will get gui in the end	03:21
kayce	can someone that knows about hdd logical arrays help me please?	03:22
Rodietze	Jack_Sparrow yeah yeah, but how can I install ubuntu in text mode? coz it always start with the GUI	03:22
kelsin	Rodietze: the alternate cd has that option on the boot screen	03:22
muuluu	i tried with text installer but there is no option to conf nultiboot?	03:22
Jack_Sparrow	Rodietze: Get the ALTERNATE cd	03:22
Jack_Sparrow	guys.. I only was reading along while getting my mail... good luck	03:23
Rodietze	Jack_Sparrow oh I got it, I thought I could use the regular cd just typeing some command...	03:23
muuluu	right	03:23
muuluu	link for the TEXT installer?	03:24
Jack_Sparrow	!download	03:24
ubotu	Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!	03:24
Rodietze	muuluu man	03:24
Jack_Sparrow	look right below the regular download...	03:24
Jack_Sparrow	muuluu: are you also trying to dual with... ugh..Vista..	03:24
Rodietze	I'm....	03:25
Rodietze	Vista installs at least heh	03:25
muuluu	no with XP	03:25
Rodietze	gee I can't believe it...	03:25
wy	kelsin: It finished. Thanks	03:25
Jack_Sparrow	muuluu: I dual with XP no problems there	03:25
muuluu	i'm afraid of installation hehe	03:26
muuluu	is ti then thanks	03:26
Jack_Sparrow	goodnight all.	03:26
muuluu	i'l tyr with that	03:26
kayce	does anyone know about making a logical hdd array? not trying to make a redundant array, but rather just mass storage, and i dont really know how to set it up using a partition editor	03:26
muuluu	GOdd night thanks for help	03:26
kayce	nite muuluu	03:26
muuluu	nn	03:27
wy	It seems I have some issues with FreeAgent drive. the file browser can't view it if it suspended after a long time of idle	03:27
Rodietze	muuluu	03:27
muuluu	1. Mirror-Mirrors	03:27
muuluu	2. CD Images	03:27
muuluu	1. CD Image Mirrors	03:27
muuluu	3. DVD Images	03:27
muuluu	1. DVD Image Mirrors	03:27
jdw	kayce: Is there a JBOD option in the partitioner?	03:27
kelsin	wy: I think that's a known issue, a lot of people are PISSED about those drives	03:27
kelsin	wy: google a bit, I think you'll find stuff pretty quickly	03:27
wy	kelsin: Thanks	03:27
kayce	jBOD? let me see	03:27
muuluu	Rodietze?	03:27
kshl_m	Anybody here know which package contains the C C++ libraries in Gusty??	03:28
kelsin	kshl_m: just install "build-essential"	03:28
Rodietze	man It is unaceptable why do we need to CDS just to have an OS installed	03:28
kayce	no, i dont think there is	03:28
Rodietze	that's ridiculous	03:28
kelsin	kshl_m: comes with all the base stuff needed for compiling	03:28
muuluu	use synaptic to search	03:28
shea\|up	kshl_m, g++	03:28
kayce	im on the live cd atm	03:28
shea\|up	libstdc & libstdc++	03:28
kshl_m	kelsin: 10x	03:28
muuluu	Rodietze?	03:29
n00bie	kelsin: you are a genius! :-))	03:29
puff	Anybody ever build lignumCAD for ubuntu?	03:29
kelsin	n00bie: got it?	03:29
jdw	kayce: OK, just a thought. JBOD is 'Just a Bunch Of Disks" which is one way to logically put a bunch of disks together. Google for setting up a RAID - there's at least one tutorial out there that I know of	03:29
shea\|up	and libstdc++6-4.1-dev	03:29
n00bie	kelsin: yes siry bob	03:29
kelsin	n00bie: sweet, enjoy your wireless internet freedom	03:29
abdulla	MY DESKTOP http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/5/12/13/alsheeba/f_mydesktopm_582c78c.png please rate :P	03:29
shea\|up	also 4.2, dunno why that's not default	03:29
n00bie	kelsin: i will, tnx again	03:29
shea\|up	(stability?)	03:29
kayce	ok	03:30
Ose	Is it safe to stop Gparted resizing a partition? It's been going for 45 minutes.	03:30
Rodietze	does anyone have HP PAVILLION and could Install UBUNTU???	03:30
kelsin	Ose: probably not, it tells you in detail what it's doing	03:30
Rodietze	that is weird first time in 1 thousand that it isn't working.... in my brand new laptop	03:30
kelsin	Ose: if you drop down the detail tree enough	03:30
prakriti	with gparted your best bet is just to be patient	03:30
kayce	i only have 2 250gb hard drives thow, and i though jBOD needs 4 or more? not sure	03:30
crimsun	Rodietze: yes.	03:30
Ose	Kelsin: OH! Didn't see it went further.. Thanks. I'll check it out.	03:30
muuluu	hehe even doesn't work with desktop	03:31
Rodietze	crimsun man how did you do when the Installation fails coz the X server?	03:31
kelsin	Ose: wouldn't advice stopping it, but you can see exactly what command it's running, pretty neat	03:31
Ose	Kelsin: Ahh, it's moving the file system over.. That would be why it's taking a long time then. And yes, it is really neat. Thanks.	03:31
Rodietze	muuluu heh yeah man try debian	03:31
Jude	does anyone know how do i find my pc's port	03:31
Rodietze	it installs at least[	03:31
muuluu	hehe lol]	03:31
Rodietze	but has the some WEIRD problems like not being able to recognize the CD ROM drive nor the screen too	03:32
muuluu	most of the destro's i tried none of them works	03:32
crimsun	Rodietze: it doesn't fail here. My model (DV6205US) has an i945GM.	03:32
muuluu	but freezing same	03:32
Jude	does anyone know how do i find my pc's port??	03:33
kelsin	Jude: what do you mean by port?	03:34
muuluu	how to check and fix if i have HDD error	03:34
yfk	is there a repository with envy?	03:35
theelbermungster	Hi guys, i am having a little problem with Compiz on ubuntu 7.10 "gusty".	03:35
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Jude	kelsin, like the pop mail port is 110, how do i find mine??	03:35
marktrix	?	03:35
Rodietze	Jude nmap	03:35
Rodietze	Jude I think you want nmap, just google for it or apt-get install nmap	03:36
Jude	Rodietze, what is nmap??	03:36
muuluu	how to check and fix if i have HDD error	03:36
kelsin	Jude: do you mean find which ports are open on your computer?	03:36
speeves	jude: do you mean ip, or port?	03:36
theelbermungster	Hi guys, could you please help me? I am having a little problem with Compiz Fusion on Ubuntu 7.10 "Gusty".	03:36
wy	kelsin: Got a workaround to disable to power management.	03:37
kelsin	Jude: "computers" don't have ports, each type of programs have ports, you can connect to your computer (via your ip) on any port you want, you need to be running a server on a certain port for it to work though	03:37
Jude	kelsin, yes	03:37
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster - Don't ask to ask.... just ask! :-)	03:37
beerfan	I just bought a new keyboard with media buttons. The play, next, prev, buttons work but volume controls and mute bring up a volume thing on the screen but have no effect. What should I look at to fix that?	03:37
kelsin	Jude: yeah the nmap program is a program that finds open ports (like Rodietze said)	03:37
Jude	speeves, port	03:37
wy	kelsin: But now it can't show up in the file browser once I unplugged it.	03:37
zarac	yo kelsin ... i'm not getting mpd + sonata working.. sonata connects to the mpd but i don't see any files.. i've thrown in some tracks to the directory in the mpd.conf though.. =/	03:37
limpc	hey.	03:37
kelsin	zarac: there is a comand to make mpd create the db, I don't remember it offhand	03:38
kelsin	zarac: "man mpd" will probably find it	03:38
limpc	does the desktop edition have all the software available to install, as the server edition?	03:38
c0mp13371331337_	beerfan - I was discussing a similar issue not too long ago. For me, volume-down mutes and volume up unmutes, but leaves the volume at 0%. Are you getting the same thing?	03:38
speeves	jude: kelsin has a good explanation	03:38
Jude	kelsin, i have rythmweb installed so i need the port to connect to it using a browser	03:38
svladcjelli	limpc: yes	03:38
kelsin	zarac: once created sonata has a right click menu to update the library when you add new files	03:38
kshl_m	kelsin: I get a package not found when I try to install Build_install	03:38
theelbermungster	every time I turn Compiz on the window border suddenly dissapears, and I am forced to use Emerald.	03:38
Jeenyus	can anyone help a newbie real quick, whats the CLI command to add a respitory to the list?	03:38
speeves	jude: is rhythmweb running?	03:38
kelsin	Jude: you'd have to look in the rythmweb help	03:38
muuluu	how to check and fix if i have HDD error	03:38
Jude	speeves, yes	03:38
kelsin	Jude: or google for it, most of us don't have every standard port memorized, just the common ones	03:38
yfk	Jude: ports has to do with the application layer, where any high level connection in a network has a port. a machine has just an ip assigned to it, and to this ip connections can be made with many ports	03:38
limpc	svladcjelli: - hmm, why are there 2 versions of ubuntu then?	03:38
beerfan	c0mp13371331337_: I don't believe so. The on screen volume indicator moves but there's no change. Same with mute.	03:38
speeves	Jude: if so, netstat -anp should show you	03:39
Jude	kelsin, it gives an example	03:39
zarac	kelsin, .. i don't find this update =/	03:39
rixth	Hi guys. How do I reinstall grub?	03:39
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster - Are you using Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, or Xubuntu?	03:39
speeves	jude: sudo netstat -anp	03:39
tehm0nk	Can anyone help me with loading universe and multiverse repositories.	03:39
zarac	last time i used mpd i didn't have to update any database .. =/	03:39
svladcjelli	limpc: for package selections among other things, it is well explained on web site	03:39
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muuluu	how to check and fix if i have HDD error	03:39
limpc	svladcjelli: - not really	03:39
theelbermungster	Ubuntu 7.10 "gusty" to be exact.	03:39
jimjam	I'm kind of new to Ubuntu. What method should I use to back up to my external HD?	03:39
Jude	speeves, i ran it without sudo	03:39
beerfan	tehm0nk: System > Administration > Software sources	03:39
kinGk0nG	How to change usplash theme??? Anybody know	03:40
limpc	svladcjelli: it just says "more info" for the server and desktop editions which gives a generic go-over.. but doesnt say explicitly what the difference is or provide any sort of comparsion chart	03:40
speeves	jude: sudo should show which processes are using which port	03:40
c0mp13371331337_	beerfan - That SOUNDS like an easy fix. Right-click the audio applet in the panel, click Preferences, and try all of them til you find the one that the volume buttons work with.	03:40
svladcjelli	limpc: they are the same, one has a gui one does not, to put it simply	03:40
Jude	speeves, yea i got the ports listed	03:40
kelsin	zarac: it's RIGHT in the mpd man page, "mpd --create-db"	03:40
beerfan	c0mp13371331337_: yeah, that's the first thing I tried	03:40
limpc	svladcjelli: hmm okay. thanks	03:40
tehm0nk	beerfan what do i do int here?	03:40
Phurion	Can anyone help me out with loading a chat site java applet on Ubuntu Firefox?	03:40
rixth	How do I reinstall grub? When I get into the grub shell, and type "root (hd0, 0)" I get "error 21; selected disk does not exist"	03:41
ubuntuisloved	hi guys	03:41
beerfan	tehm0nk: check the sources you want. It will have you reload the repo cache	03:41
tehm0nk	i'm trying a walkthrough on raid0 but it just says "tart up the Gutsy Gibbon or Feisty Fawn Live CD, open Synaptic and add the universe and multiverse repositories."	03:41
c0mp13371331337_	beerfan - Oh darn, like I said, SOUNDS like an easy fix. Well sorry, can't help ya then. Best of luck though!	03:41
kelsin	rixth: does "root (hd<tab>" generate anything?	03:41
limpc	is there any reason i shouldnt get the 64 bit version?	03:41
limpc	I have a dual-core AMD64.	03:41
rixth	kelsin: nope	03:42
muuluu	no	03:42
limpc	ive heard horror stories about having to recompile stuff to work with 64 bit..	03:42
beerfan	limpc: lots of reasons	03:42
kayce	low compatability wth some programs	03:42
muuluu	u can get 64	03:42
rixth	I'm using the live CD, and I'm chrooted into the install	03:42
rixth	Wait, that's probably the issue. Duh.	03:42
svladcjelli	64bit edition works fine	03:42
jimjam	Does anyone have a preferred method of backing up their Ubuntu computer?	03:42
speeves	limpc: depends, if you do a lot of multi-media stuff, though it is getting much better	03:42
kelsin	rixth: did you run grub as root too?	03:42
loke_	limpc: Do you crunch numbers (SETI, F@H)?	03:42
rixth	kelsin: yes sudo grub	03:42
svladcjelli	you can do anything on 64 you can on 32, and ubuntu makes it easy	03:42
limpc	i write software.. do realtime video encoding	03:42
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster - There should be an option to use Ubuntu's default window manager, Metacity, rather than switching to emerald. Hold on, I'll see if I can find it. (I don't use Compiz at all cause it doesn't work on my 3200x1200 monitor setup)	03:42
loke_	Yes, go for it.	03:43
kayce	almost* anything	03:43
limpc	hmm okay..	03:43
svladcjelli	you can run any 32bit app	03:43
svladcjelli	so anything	03:43
kayce	32bit is generaly supported more then 64bit	03:43
speeves	limpc: video encoding, I would recommend 32bit for now	03:43
loke_	kayce: I can't agree with you.	03:43
svladcjelli	uh do any of you run 64bit? :)	03:43
speeves	limpc: until microsoft starts to support 64-bit codecs better	03:43
loke_	kayce: You can run 32bit apps in a 63bit environment.	03:43
svladcjelli	i have been for years	03:43
kayce	ive run into a couple programs i couldent get to work on 64bit	03:43
Phurion	Can anyone help me out with loading a chat site java applet on Ubuntu Firefox?	03:43
limpc	is there any performance degradation when running 32 bit on 64? I'm assuming some emulation would be going on	03:43
speeves	svladcjelli: not anymore, I need to run a 32-bit vpn client from nortel :P	03:44
kelsin	My only judge is by how many people come in here asking for help with <blah> for 64bit... I don't see the benfit on a desktop machine	03:44
zarac	kelsin, i've done that though.. it doesn't help =/	03:44
svladcjelli	limpc: no	03:44
limpc	hum. okies. thanks	03:44
tehm0nk	beerfan: thanks dude	03:44
muuluu	how to check and fix if i have HDD error	03:44
Poul\|Raider	Hello, anyone know a good irc channel to ask some questions about asp.net programming?	03:44
Jude	speeves, i got the rythmbox port but when i point it in the browser i don't get it. it shows me "Unable to connect". i have the webcontrol running	03:44
beerfan	tehm0nk: yw	03:44
tehm0nk	i actually got a reply in here lol	03:44
kelsin	zarac: that's really odd, don't know what to tell you, I could double chech about the chroot of course	03:44
speeves	jude: what port is it?	03:45
shea\|up	the benefit comes when you are positive you need a ton of ram, mostly.	03:45
tehm0nk	i'm so lost with this stuff lol	03:45
Jude	speeves, 5389	03:45
tehm0nk	first time with ubuntu	03:45
Jeenyus	if anyone has a broadcom wireless card and would like to give me a hand setting it up for Feisty please contact me on AIM at Jeenyus1134 Thanks much :)	03:45
kelsin	Jude: what are you typing into the browser?	03:45
shea\|up	if the benefit outweighs the pain then go for it, else no	03:45
speeves	jude: what is your url in the browser?	03:45
speeves	kelsin: :P	03:45
BrianH	tehm0nk - my first time too	03:45
muuluu	how to check and fix if i have HDD error?	03:45
beerfan	tehm0nk: just hang around, it'll come	03:45
shea\|up	even xp64 is a major pain.	03:45
Jude	kelsin, speeves, http://you-rb-host:5389/	03:45
shea\|up	(windows)	03:45
ubuntuisloved	Has anyone had experience moving from Gnome to XFCE desktop? Im interested in copying my startmenu over ?	03:45
speeves	jude: telnet localhost 5389	03:45
svladcjelli	even? only windows64 is a pain :L	03:45
speeves	jude: what does it say?	03:46
limpc	muuluu: - chkfs	03:46
kelsin	Jude: try "127.0.0.1:5389"	03:46
kayce	windows* is a pain	03:46
kayce	>_>	03:46
shea\|up	ok that's not what i meant to say.	03:46
shea\|up	stop thanks	03:46
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: Yes I have.	03:46
shea\|up	:\|	03:46
muuluu	limpc: thanks	03:46
xLE	how can i stop doing a apt-get if i've already closed the terminal?	03:46
Phurion	Java works fine under Opera (Slow, of course) but nothing is displayed for Firefox or Epiphany.	03:46
ubuntuisloved	Odd-rationale: what did you use to copy the info over so i dont have to hand build the menu items	03:46
limpc	muuluu: wait i think thats wrong	03:46
kelsin	xLE: if you didn't run it in screen it should be stopped	03:46
limpc	sorry its fsck	03:46
speeves	xLE: ps -ef \| grep apt; kill <pids>	03:46
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: Configuring your menu in xfce (xubuntu) menus is a bit different than gnome's	03:47
svladcjelli	!fsck	03:47
ubotu	fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot	03:47
xLE	righto	03:47
Jude	kelsin, speeves, both the suggestions show "Unable to connect"	03:47
kelsin	Jude: then you don't have the web panel running on port 5389	03:47
muuluu	ok	03:47
Jude	kelsin, it	03:47
speeves	jude: netstat -an \| grep 5389	03:47
ubuntuisloved	Odd-rationale: is there a way to convert my items from gnome to xfce for the start menu?	03:47
Jude	is	03:47
Phurion	Java isn't working, it works fine under Opera (Slow, of course) but nothing is displayed for Firefox or Epiphany.	03:47
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: You don't have a separate Places and System menu. Inother words, System is a submenu of applictions.	03:48
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: do you plan to install xubuntu?	03:48
kelsin	Jude: it's not :) either you have the wrong port, or it's not running on your computer, or there was an error or something, but unable to connect means that there isn't anything on that port	03:48
muuluu	thanks	03:48
ubuntuisloved	no i had ubuntu and wanted to experience the xfce as its lighter on mem	03:48
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: Or do you want xfce on top of your ubuntu installation?	03:48
Jude	speeves, it gives me nothing	03:48
speeves	jude: kelsin is right	03:48
ubuntuisloved	Odd-rationale: Ive already installed xfce on top of ubuntu im in it now	03:49
Jude	kelsin, it shows that it is rythmbox running on that port	03:49
kelsin	Jude: what does?	03:49
ubuntuisloved	Odd-rationale: I need to get my menu items over from gnome menu	03:49
Jude	kelsin, netstat -anp	03:49
beerfan	Jude: try disabling daap in rhythmbox	03:49
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: I'm afraid your menus will have to edited pretty much by hand. How is your xfce menu now? Is it OK?	03:50
Jude	beerfan, ok , hold	03:50
ubuntuisloved	Odd-rationale: just empty right now ive got a ton of programs to put on it	03:50
The_Doctor_	Is there a better was to edit the menus a faster way, to edit and move items a different app or bring back the "applications://"/	03:50
Jude	beerfan, does not help	03:51
joeamined	hi	03:51
Travis	Hi I just put a hard drive in my server from my older server, the data on it is in a format called LVM2 MEMBER, because my old server was LVM, I just need to get the data off it for my new server? how do I go about this?	03:51
Phurion	Java isn't working, it works fine under Opera (Slow, of course) but nothing is displayed for Firefox or Epiphany.	03:51
unikon	whats the pros and cons of having a ubuntu usb thumb drive	03:51
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: Oh, I see. Do you have a ~./config/xfce4/desktop/menu file ( i think that is the correct path)?	03:51
beerfan	Jude: I think I thought you were trying to do something you aren't. I'm not sure what you are attempting.	03:51
ivan	unikon: sticking things into computers is tiring	03:51
joeamined	how to make windows appear when i go to a desktop edge with compiz config please	03:51
svladcjelli	unikon: pros faster, cons computer may not be able to handle booting from it	03:52
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster - Okay, not 100% on this one, but open the gconf Configuration Editor, go to apps > compiz > plugins > decoration > allscreens > options and change the value of the key named 'command' to 'metacity'. May need to restart compiz, not sure.	03:52
tehm0nk	What filesystem do i use for Linux? ext2?	03:52
ivan	ext3	03:52
tehm0nk	ok	03:52
Jude	beerfan, i am trying to access webcontrol through firefox	03:52
tehm0nk	and what kind of partitions should i do for the partitions	03:52
Ttech	How do I reinstall the default ubuntu sounds? I installed (and then uninstalled) ubuntu studio it took the sounds with it. :(	03:52
tehm0nk	if i could get someone to help me out with my partition setup that would be greatly appreciated	03:52
Jude	beerfan, its a web app to control rythmbox	03:52
Ttech	tehm0nk, sure	03:53
katakaio	tehm0nk: what do you want to accomplish?	03:53
Ttech	tehm0nk, whats your hd size?	03:53
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: Find it?	03:53
marktrix	never	03:53
beerfan	Jude: I see. I'm not familiar with that.	03:53
tehm0nk	Ttech: 240 gigs sata raid0	03:53
c0mp13371331337_	tehm0nk - Piece of advice: put your /home folder on a separate partition. Makes reinstalling MUCH easier; all program settings and files are saved, you just need to reinstall the OS on the / partition.	03:53
tehm0nk	Ttech: just got the raid0 recognized	03:53
ubuntuisloved	Odd-rationale: looking now sorry	03:53
The_Doctor_	hmm	03:53
theelbermungster	c0mp13371331337_ , how do I open gconf?	03:54
wy	What can I do if I have two conflicting libGL installed? libgl1-mesa-glx and xorg-driver-fglrx both have libGL, and they are referred by libglut.so. So I got flickering display.	03:54
tehm0nk	Ttech: there is 2 existing partitions that i care about.	03:54
The_Doctor_	I got a graph	03:54
The_Doctor_	Hmm	03:54
katakaio	tehm0nk: c0mp1337 is right - that's one of the smartest ways to go	03:54
The_Doctor_	That could be a bit difficult	03:54
katakaio	Is your raid config done in your mobo setup?	03:54
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster - at a terminal: gconf-editor (Alternatively, use the Run box)	03:54
The_Doctor_	katakaio: Is there a way to help people who were stupid (I wasnj't thinlking I didn't do my usual manual setup for partitons)?	03:54
tehm0nk	c0mp13371331337_: i haven't a CLUE how to go about that	03:55
ubuntuisloved	i found what i need thanks	03:55
c0mp13371331337_	tehm0nk - You're not doing anything crazy like installing linux around an existing Windoze partition, are you?	03:55
katakaio	tehm0nk, The Doctor: you should download a live CD called gparted	03:55
tehm0nk	right now my partitions are: 1. 2.5gb vista swap file - 2. vista - rest WAS storage but i backed that up...	03:55
tehm0nk	yes comp i'm trying lol	03:55
Ttech	katakaio, ok, that sounds good. :)	03:55
Odd-rationale	ubuntuisloved: Here's a script i used. It might help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620215	03:55
c0mp13371331337_	tehm0nk - ohnoez!	03:56
tehm0nk	LoL	03:56
katakaio	It's the best partitioning software that I've tried	03:56
tehm0nk	katakaio: yes	03:56
beerfan	katakaio: isn't it the same as what's on the ubuntu live cd?	03:56
katakaio	You can set up partitions on a clean install of Ubuntu, but it's smart to have gparted on hand	03:56
ubuntuisloved	cool thanks	03:56
katakaio	beerfan: You're right, but I've had the ubuntu partitioner screw things up for me before	03:57
c0mp13371331337_	katakaio - Doesn't the live CD come with gparted?	03:57
tehm0nk	i'm sorta in the ubuntu live cd :-/	03:57
tehm0nk	and yes it does	03:57
katakaio	OK, then roll with that	03:57
c0mp13371331337_	NVM, didn't see beerfan's post!	03:57
tehm0nk	that is how i was going to mess with the parts	03:57
katakaio	If things go south, use the gparted CD	03:57
The_Doctor_	katakaio, so.. hmm	03:57
tehm0nk	i have another box with net so i'm not completely messed up	03:57
tehm0nk	lol	03:57
theelbermungster	c0mp13371331337_ , there's nothing inside the "options" folder	03:57
katakaio	OK, perfect	03:57
BHSPitMonkey	If my computer is set to Sleep after x minutes, will it still honor my "when battery is critically low" setting? Or is it not aware of that while asleep?	03:58
sylvisj	Hello all, having issue with nvidia binaries	03:58
tehm0nk	i just dont know how i'm going to get the partitions setup correctly	03:58
tehm0nk	i wanted to put in a linux swap partition	03:58
katakaio	Ideally, you would have (for Ubuntu) a swap partition, a home partition, and a root partition	03:58
sylvisj	Followed the directions as per http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/hardware/C/video.html#nvidia, but Xorg.0.log is giving me an "Failed to initialize NVIDIA kernel module!" error	03:58
sylvisj	How can I fix this?	03:58
tehm0nk	ok that works for me...	03:58
Phurion	Java isn't working, it works fine under Opera (Slow, of course) but nothing is displayed for Firefox or Epiphany.	03:58
katakaio	It's nice because you can do clean OS installs without losing your data	03:59
xTheGoat121x	Evening all	03:59
tehm0nk	ok	03:59
Nighthawk420	sup xTheGoat121x	03:59
tehm0nk	so can i put all 3 of those partitions ... AFTER the vista partition?	03:59
katakaio	tehm0nk: are you in the Ubuntu setup now?	03:59
tehm0nk	or is that screwy?	04:00
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster - Oh... wow.... huh. Well that was unexpected. Try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager	04:00
BHSPitMonkey	tehm0nk, just fine	04:00
rixth	I use the restricted nvidia drivers. How do I get video out via VGA from my notebook?	04:00
katakaio	If by "after" you mean at the end of the disk, then yes	04:00
xTheGoat121x	Nighthawk420, not too much, how's it goin	04:00
tehm0nk	not in the setup but i'm trying to get to there	04:00
marktrix	rush	04:00
tehm0nk	i was gonna set the partitions then install	04:00
beerfan	Phurion: you may need to install the firefox java plugin j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin	04:00
Nighthawk420	tipsy... ya xTheGoat121x ?	04:00
kayce	katakaio, can that be used for 2 250gb hdd's while in ubuntu setup from the live cd?	04:00
Dr_willis	rixth, for my laptop and others ive seen you need to enable twinview. to use both displays, OR you may try whatever keys on your laptop 'switch' the video outputs.	04:00
marktrix	nautilus	04:00
xTheGoat121x	Nighthawk420, I wish I were.	04:01
BHSPitMonkey	tehm0nk, that's a good way to do it. Get it done beforehand.	04:01
theelbermungster	yeah, i already have ccsm installed	04:01
Phurion	beerfan: I'll try that and get back to you.	04:01
katakaio	kayce: if the two hard drives are set up in the bios/motherboard for raid, then yes	04:01
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rixth	Dr_willis, I leave me desk frequently though, TwinView requires X restarts? Fn+F8 does not work =(	04:01
katakaio	Ubuntu will see them as a single hard drive	04:01
kayce	ok, thank you	04:01
katakaio	np	04:01
Nighthawk420	Ubuntu is smart like that	04:01
Nighthawk420	lol	04:01
Dr_willis	rixth, it all depends on what you want to do exactly. What does leaving your desk have to do with anything? You confiogure twinview, and its enabled when X starts up.	04:02
Phurion	beerfan: Do you know exactly how I can go by installing this plugin?	04:02
tehm0nk	i had to go through hell to make it see my raid setup lol	04:02
xLE	how do i compile a c++ file?	04:02
tehm0nk	took me a few hours now cause i'm a boon.	04:02
kayce	is there anything else i would need to add for partitions?	04:02
beerfan	search for "firefox" in the add/remove programs window	04:02
beerfan	Phurion: ^ and scroll down to the java plugin	04:02
katakaio	kayce: the Ubuntu install CD can partition, but the best IMHO is gparted	04:02
cr4	hello, does anybody here know if it's possible to write enside of a textbox in a w3m console borwser ?	04:02
Phurion	beerfan: I'm fairly certain I've installed the plugin once or twice before, with no luck.	04:02
kayce	ok	04:02
svladcjelli	!ubuntu-restricted-extras	04:03
ubotu	Ubuntu Restricted Extras is a new way of getting common "restricted" codecs, etc. See !RestrictedFormats	04:03
katakaio	gparted is a live CD, which is the safest way to go	04:03
tehm0nk	katakaio: what kind of sizes do i need to make the partitions?	04:03
rixth	Dr_willis, basically, it there a way to detect if an external monitor is plugged in? I start X, and it's on the laptop screen. I connect external screen, it switches to that (no X restart required). Disconnect external screen, X switches back to laptop screen	04:03
katakaio	Guys, opinions on tehm0nk's partition sizes?	04:03
katakaio	I would go 1GB swap, 6 GB root, rest as home	04:03
kayce	same for me please?	04:03
tehm0nk	how much for home will i really need?	04:04
beerfan	tehm0nk: I wouldn't go higher than 15 or 20gb for root. home can be the rest	04:04
kayce	2 250gb hard drives	04:04
katakaio	Home is for all of your non-system files	04:04
tehm0nk	i have 100 gigs and i'd like to have a backup area for vista still haha	04:04
c0mp13371331337_	katakaio - I tend to be a little more liberal with my root partition (but then again, I'm the type that installs a bunch of programs to see what's out there.	04:04
shomari	how do i make an initrd image	04:04
xLE	how do I compile a c++ file?	04:04
katakaio	c0mp1337: I hear ya	04:04
c0mp13371331337_	I've currently got a 20gb root, about 10gb free.	04:04
katakaio	I own a laptop, so I'm stingier	04:04
theelbermungster	c0mp13371331337_ , but i already have ccsm installed	04:04
Phurion	beerfan: Do you know what the java application is I'm to install, there are so many.	04:05
beerfan	c0mp13371331337_: yeah, I've never hit 10GB on /	04:05
tehm0nk	linux swap is a primary ?	04:05
Dr_willis	rixth, enable clone and see if it works that way. Normally the monitor needs to be plugged in when the pc boots up or ive seen that the nvidia card ignores it.	04:05
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster - Okay, try setting in in there. Window decoration is the place to be, and type metacity in the Command field.	04:05
beerfan	tehm0nk: I'd put linux swap in extended	04:05
kayce	katakaio: any advice on partition sizes for my hard drives?	04:06
xLE	how do I compile a c++ file?	04:06
rixth	Dr_willis, a simple clone is not good though, cause laptop screen is 1440x900, external is 1920x1200	04:06
beerfan	Phurion: if java works in Opera then you already have a JVM installed	04:06
katakaio	kayce: did you say you had two separate hard drives, or were you RAIDing them together?	04:06
theelbermungster	got it	04:06
Dr_willis	rixth, sounds like you got some tweaking and thinking about how you want to do things to do.	04:07
kayce	i have 2 seperate hard drives at this time, i want to raid them togeather tho	04:07
p_quarles	xLE: one that you wrote or a package you want to install?	04:07
rixth	Dr_willis, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#Connecting_a_second_monitor_after_X_startup looks promising	04:07
Phurion	beerfan: That's what I thought, but I don't understand why it will not work.	04:07
Dr_willis	rixth, may want to check the forums and google for your specific laptop and linux. see if thers a way to get the hotkeys working.	04:07
katakaio	kayce: can you raid them on your motherboard (i.e. in your BIOS) ?	04:07
xLE	p_quarles, one i wrote.	04:07
kayce	yes, no problem at all	04:07
Ose	I accidentally put Tremulous in Windowed mode.. How do I put it back?	04:07
Dr_willis	rixth, i normally have a tv as my 2nd monitor. So what i do is a bit different from your needs.	04:07
katakaio	kayce: do they have data/operating systems on them currently?	04:08
beerfan	install sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-plugin	04:08
kayce	A8N-SLI Premium mobo	04:08
kayce	and no	04:08
Dr_willis	rixth, i DO think the nividia-settngs tool enabled the 2nd monitor on the fly for me once. :)	04:08
beerfan	Phurion: ^	04:08
kayce	they do not	04:08
theelbermungster	do I need to restart compiz, c0mp13371331337 ?	04:08
kayce	im on the live cd at the time	04:08
katakaio	kayce: good and good :-D	04:08
p_quarles	xLE: Gotcha. Not a programmer, so I could help you more with the other. I believe that a no. of IDEs come with this function -- geany for instance.	04:08
tehm0nk	argh ok i'm confused with the type of partitions to be making now...	04:08
kayce	:D	04:08
tehm0nk	primary/extended...etc	04:08
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster, I would, just to be safe.	04:08
katakaio	kayce: I would raid them in the mobo setup and then install ubuntu	04:09
beerfan	tehm0nk: extended is just a partition container	04:09
beerfan	there is a limit on how many primary partitions you can have	04:09
xLE	anyone know how to compile a c++ file manually?(or give me an example)	04:09
kayce	ok	04:09
rixth	Dr_willis, WOOOOP. nvidia-settings works perfectly, not automated but good enough!	04:09
kayce	i will be right back	04:09
theelbermungster	what's the command for restart compiz?	04:09
katakaio	ubuntu should see your raid setup as a single, ordinary drive	04:09
tehm0nk	can the partitions all be incased in an extended?	04:09
katakaio	good luck kayce	04:09
Ose	I accidentally put Tremulous in Windowed mode.. How do I put it back to full screen?	04:10
kayce	and it did last time i had them raided and i was on the live cd	04:10
SpookyET	I have a bit of a problem. Oo font rendering is abysmal. Screenshot: http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/35924/2006280723373385260_rs.jpg	04:10
kayce	be right back	04:10
katakaio	ok	04:10
kelsin	tehm0nk: you can only have 4 primary partitions, One of those can be an extended partition, then you can make as MANY more as you want in the extended (these are called the Logical partitions)	04:10
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster, Hrm... pkill compiz	04:10
beerfan	tehm0nk: bootable system partitions should be primary. home, swap, and such can be in extended or primary at your discretion	04:10
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster, I believe that's it.	04:11
SpookyET	beerfan: it does not matter. in 2007, you can recover /boot even if it's extended	04:11
c0mp13371331337_	theelbermungster, All else fails, restart X.	04:11
speeves	tehm0nk: what's nice about a large /home partition, is that you can reinstall and still keep all of your files :)	04:11
SpookyET	kelsin: any wise words for my issue?	04:12
beerfan	SpookyET: I said "should", not must ;-)	04:12
speeves	tehm0nk: I even switch between Ubuntu and Debian with no issues...	04:12
Phurion	beerfan: I did it and continue to get a blank Java applet on Firefox.	04:12
beerfan	Phurion: restarted firefox?	04:13
Phurion	beerfan: I did, yes.	04:13
beerfan	then I'm stumped	04:13
beerfan	64bit?	04:13
Phurion	beerfan: No, 32 bit.	04:14
Ose	Beerfan: I had him trying to link the file to Firefox, if you can help with that. Apparently Opera links it automatically but FF doesn't.	04:14
renegade420	hello	04:14
beerfan	Phurion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183825	04:14
renegade420	I am running Xubuntu... and ive lost my docK!!!	04:15
p_quarles	xLE: since no one else is answering, I'll tell you what I know -- gcc is the compiler, and it will take a filename as its argument; the man page is elaborate, but if you know what parameters you need, it should help	04:15
Caitlin	hello...so i am hoping someone can help me out	04:15
renegade420	so i cant get into my applications	04:15
tehm0nk	ok anyone want to review my gparted stuff before i commit to it	04:15
beerfan	Ose: I've never had a problem with Gutsy or even Feisty setting up the plugin	04:15
katakaio	tehm0nk: let's hear it	04:15
tehm0nk	i admit i'm a little scared last time i did something like this i completely killed my winxp haha	04:15
tehm0nk	i wish i could screenshot it...	04:16
tehm0nk	lol	04:16
Caitlin	I'm not to good with all this stuff...usually my bf does it for me....but my firefox will not load	04:16
c0mp13371331337_	tehm0nk - Why can't you screenshot?	04:16
Ose	Beerfan: Either have I.. And that looks like the same thing - the linking. Hope it works this time.	04:16
tehm0nk	cause i'm a BOON	04:16
tehm0nk	:-D	04:16
tehm0nk	i'm new man haha	04:16
katakaio	no sweat, just tell us what you're thinking	04:16
Caitlin	i have no idea how to fix it....my internet is working i have no idea	04:16
Caitlin	haha	04:16
heatmzzr	tehmonk, i got rid of vista completely 5 days ago, worked soo far	04:16
tehm0nk	ok here is the setup...	04:16
p_quarles	Caitlin: try running it from the terminal -- press alt-F1 and type "firefox" -- what does it say?	04:16
beerfan	Caitlin: what exactly? you click the firefox icon and nothing happens?	04:17
tehm0nk	lol well... i dont want vista to be RIPPED away from me lol	04:17
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tehm0nk	and i play world of warcraft a lot so i have to Dual Boot something i think	04:17
tehm0nk	cause i dont think it's workin right in mac or linux?	04:17
Ttech	tehm0nk, I was ripped away from xp and I have had only 2 problems.! WoOT	04:17
beerfan	tehm0nk: huh? WoW is the poster child for games that run well on linux	04:17
Ose	WoW can run in Ubuntu. Not sure how well, though.	04:17
kayce	ok	04:17
katakaio	ah yes, the truth comes out :P	04:17
Dr_willis	ive heard that wine/cedega can handle WoW.	04:17
katakaio	sup kayce	04:17
kayce	raid set up	04:17
katakaio	great	04:17
Dr_willis	But i over came WoW. :)	04:18
Ttech	Ose: Quite well, although alt+tab does nto work so well	04:18
tehm0nk	beerfan: wow.	04:18
tehm0nk	seriously?	04:18
beerfan	yes	04:18
c0mp13371331337_	tehm0nk - Click on the gparted window to focus it, hit Alt+Print Screen, and upload it to some picture pastebin site. Don't know any sites for pictures off the top of my head, anyone else?	04:18
tehm0nk	maybe i will switch	04:18
tehm0nk	cause i know i can update my phone with linux too	04:18
Aaron_	are CSS and WoW both usable on unbuntu?	04:18
limpc	whats the name of that 3d desktop manager?	04:18
tehm0nk	vmware style winxp i heard	04:18
katakaio	compiz?	04:18
tehm0nk	but i mean all this takes learning and knowhow	04:18
why-phy	photobucket	04:18
Ttech	CSS I'm not sure aobut	04:18
spyder	hello, i have a problem with ubuntu freezing constantly can someone help me?	04:18
renegade420	I am looking for my dock bar and im running xubuntu	04:18
Caitlin	ummm...nothing really happens	04:18
tehm0nk	and the reason i'm even TRYING this Crap is that DANG youtube video	04:18
tehm0nk	i been at this all day now	04:18
limpc	yeah compiz thats it thanks	04:19
tehm0nk	haha	04:19
katakaio	np	04:19
Aaron_	how much room on a partion would unbuntu need just to start up and test with?	04:19
katakaio	kayce, you ready to roll?	04:19
heatmzzr	tehmonk, the beryl vid?	04:19
tehm0nk	ubuntu beryl -vs- vista...	04:19
Ttech	Ubuntu~! All the way	04:19
kayce	yea	04:19
kayce	im ready	04:19
tehm0nk	haha	04:19
beerfan	Caitlin: you'll have to get specific for anyone to help you. Try running it from a terminal and see if there's any error output	04:19
heatmzzr	haha, i saw it too. mine works great	04:19
tehm0nk	SO back to the partitions...	04:19
katakaio	I assume you're running a raid 0 (striping) - is that right?	04:19
malnilion	Compiz Fusion > Vista*1,000	04:19
kayce	yes	04:19
Ttech	tehm0nk, Ubuntu has the coolest effects out htere, even ones like vista	04:19
limpc	huh? you're even COMPARING it to vista? :( im so sad now.	04:20
renegade420	like i cant find my application bar	04:20
Phurion	beerfan: The thread you linked me didn't seem to be any more help than what you already said... Is there any other browsers you would recommend for Java use?	04:20
kayce	whos comparing what to vista? O_O	04:20
renegade420	or dock	04:20
tehm0nk	#1 fat16 vista page #2 vista	04:20
tehm0nk	Extended starts here	04:20
renegade420	or dock	04:20
katakaio	kayce: Then if space is not an issue, I recommend 1 GB swap, 10 GB root, rest as home	04:20
beerfan	Phurion: sorry, I have no suggestions	04:20
kayce	ok	04:20
tehm0nk	#3 linux page #4 root 15gigs #5 home 30 gigs - - extended ends -- #6 vista backup mp3s etc....	04:21
kayce	for 2gb ram, 1 gb swap?	04:21
katakaio	kayce: remember, you can always adjust your partition sizes later	04:21
katakaio	kayce: with 2 GB ram, the swap won't be in use too much	04:21
kayce	ahh, right	04:21
renegade420	I cannot find the dock bar	04:21
kayce	and true	04:21
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Caitlin	ok..my firefox is now working it is jsut moving at the speed of smell...dsl is crap...thanks tehm0nk	04:21
Caitlin	we should go out ; )	04:22
katakaio	although it's easiest to get it right the first time :)	04:22
kayce	even with programs like VirtualBox?	04:22
beerfan	eww, no cyber lol	04:22
katakaio	kayce: I'm not familiar with that program	04:22
tehm0nk	is ubuntu gonna be friendly with vista when i try to install?	04:22
katakaio	but I can't imagine a program using 3 GB of virtual memory	04:22
kayce	its a VM, like VMware but better	04:22
Ttech	tehm0nk, OH YEAH	04:22
randorfer	tehmonk: works just fine with vista for me	04:23
beerfan	tehm0nk: ubuntu should add vista to the boot list	04:23
Ttech	kayce, Does VMWare SERver work on Ubntu?	04:23
kayce	im not sure	04:23
svladcjelli	yes	04:23
randorfer	Ttech, why not just use qemu?	04:23
kayce	i know VirtualBox does thow	04:23
Ttech	:(	04:23
Ttech	hmm	04:23
kayce	and its free	04:23
tehm0nk	ruh oh i got an error but it didn't tell me wtf happened lol	04:23
drgeb	why is VirtualBox better then VmWare ?	04:23
c0mp13371331337_	tehm0nk - Ubuntu will be friendly with everything, it's Vista that's the carnivore of the software world. ;-)	04:23
kayce	just runs better	04:24