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ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: you need to use some sort of either proxy service (squid) or network fowarding such as iptables setup	00:00
Clay_The_Arc	recommended one?	00:00
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: do you want just browsing or more	00:00
Clay_The_Arc	i just really want browsing	00:00
Clay_The_Arc	because thats all my brother does	00:00
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: I'd suggest squid so there is, if possible some form of caching to save the dial up browsing	00:00
Mark761966	Can anyone walk me through making a custom live distro?	00:00
Clay_The_Arc	apt-get install squid?	00:00
slugone	sudo	00:00
ipiz	sethk sorry, wasn't paying any attention ..	00:00
slugone	apt get	00:00
Clay_The_Arc	ya	00:01
ikonia	Mark761966: no, that is nothing to do with ubuntu	00:01
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: thats the basics for the install	00:01
Mark761966	Yes it is	00:01
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: then you need to set it up	00:01
am_	sethk, you still here?	00:01
Jack_Sparrow	Mark761966: check into reconstructor.. that question is beyond the scope of what we do here.	00:01
ikonia	Mark761966: no, it's not	00:01
Clay_The_Arc	k	00:01
Clay_The_Arc	eek 6mb :%	00:01
Clay_The_Arc	anything smaller?	00:01
Mark761966	I'm trying to make a custom live distro of Ubuntu	00:01
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: not really, squid is your best option	00:01
sethk	am_, yes and no, I'm dealing with a client. I'll be back in a bit.	00:01
Clay_The_Arc	kk	00:01
Mark761966	So I don't have to use Windows	00:01
ikonia	Mark761966: then it is nothing to do with ubuntu - it's your own custom distro	00:01
am_	sethk, i have to go now for a few minutes. heres my file thing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48490/	00:01
ikonia	Mark761966: you can use ubuntu so you don't have to use windows	00:01
Clay_The_Arc	Thx <3	00:01
Mark761966	Christ	00:02
ikonia	Mark761966: no, ikonia	00:02
Mark761966	Go away if you're going to be unhelpful	00:02
ikonia	Mark761966: I'm advising you that your own custom distro is nothing to do with ubuntu or the #ubuntu support channel	00:02
x_	have we some keyboard editor program ?! i want change "/" place in keyboard but don't know how	00:02
Jack_Sparrow	!topic \| Mark761966:	00:02
ubotu	Mark761966:: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic	00:02
lappy	I cannot access my ntfs volume in my ftp as an anonymous user.. How do I need to mount my drive for this?	00:02
Mark761966	Fine	00:02
Mark761966	Whatever	00:03
* ikonia waits for standard abuse on part		00:03
slugone	okay i got a question.....i got the i386 distro on my macbook ......i got 4 workspaces and it makes a cube with the advance graphics thingy i downloaded.....can i get a workspace on the top and bottom without the 64bit edition	00:03
Mark761966	It's NOT FAIR	00:03
rico	lappy, thats most likely because of the permissions of your files	00:03
smartboyalex77	Hi there	00:03
ipiz	lappy Use mount -t ntfs	00:03
ikonia	slugone: the workspace on top is nothing to do with the 64bit version	00:03
lappy	ipiz what is -t?	00:03
scguy318	Mark761966: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or a diff chan	00:03
Jack_Sparrow	Mark761966: You were directed to a program that would do what you wanted, but you insist on spoonfeeding	00:04
Mark761966	Whatever	00:04
slugone	hmmm how do i get it on the top and bottom of the qube :P	00:04
x_	anyone using Adobe CS3 on ubuntu ?!	00:04
ikonia	slugone: the top is not supported as I recall	00:04
scguy318	x_: that's not a reality,you unfortunately need Windows for that	00:04
ikonia	x_: loads of people in #winehq will probably	00:04
slugone	ahHHh i see	00:04
smartboyalex77	I was wondering how to change my music (places menu) to another location (on another partition.	00:04
white_eagle	is there a game for ubuntu similar to atari's pong?	00:04
white_eagle	!pong	00:04
ubotu	pong is an old atari game. It's fun!	00:04
lappy	ipiz: -t is write access?	00:05
ikonia	white_eagle: never seen a port, but there is an atari emmulator in the ubuntu repo's	00:05
slugone	lol one last question.....how do i change the color of the top and bottom of the "q"ube	00:05
Mark761966	We're not all IT admins you know	00:05
ikonia	slugone: desktop effect	00:05
ikonia	Mark761966: please drop it	00:05
x_	scguy318 so wich programes we can use for webdesign on linux ?!	00:05
slugone	kk	00:05
smartboyalex77	anyone	00:05
LjL	!info pong2 \| white_eagle	00:05
ubotu	white_eagle: pong2: Remake of old arcade classic in OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1521 kB, installed size 3396 kB	00:05
slugone	linux isnt bad after the first week and a half of man pages :D	00:05
ikonia	x_: thats a tough call, people will have personal opinions on that,	00:05
mushy	I LOVE UBUNTU!!!!!	00:05
Mark761966	Fuck off	00:05
Jack_Sparrow	white_eagle: just for fun... frozen Bubble	00:05
Mark761966	Cunts	00:05
x_	ikonia u mean i should use Wine for installing that ?!	00:06
ikonia	LjL: Mark761966 please.	00:06
mushy	GUYS I MOFOIN LOVE UBUNTU	00:06
slugone	me2	00:06
lappy	:[	00:06
ikonia	mushy: I've asked you 3 times to not use that sort of language	00:06
IndyGunFreak	i think mark was a little bitter...lol	00:06
mushy	but i love ubuntu lay off ]=	00:06
test_	ubuntu fedora which is more from hackers	00:06
Ericl80427	.server irc.swiftirc.net	00:06
Ericl80427	oops.	00:06
IndyGunFreak	!language \| mushy	00:06
ubotu	mushy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	00:06
white_eagle	Jack_Sparrow: Thanks!	00:06
Jack_Sparrow	LjL: thanks	00:06
ikonia	mushy: thats no reason to use that sort of langauge, last request, please stop. You've been asked 3 times	00:06
Jack_Sparrow	white_eagle: np	00:06
mushy	]=	00:07
ipiz	I have many files that I want to rename to 001, 002, 003 .. etc but keep the file extensions.. any suggestion?	00:07
mushy	the windows channel wouldnt tell me to stop cussing	00:07
mushy	maybe i will make another switch	00:07
IndyGunFreak	mushy: youre welcom to go back,.	00:07
LjL	!etiquette > mushy (mushy, see the private message from Ubotu)	00:07
mushy	but i really dont want to	00:07
lappy	ipiz: mount -t didn't work	00:07
x_	ikonia i have Adobe CS3 ... should i use Wine for install that ?!	00:07
IndyGunFreak	mushy: the ubuntu community will not fail becuase you leave, trust me	00:07
scguy318	x_: I don't think it works on Wine as for now	00:07
PriceChild	mushy, we don't care. This channel is for ubuntu support. #ubuntu-offtopic for any further random chatter.	00:07
ikonia	x_: you can certainly try, I don't know how well it will work	00:08
LjL	mushy: surely, having to avoid cussing is a valid reason to switch OS. now please, stop trolling.	00:08
mushy	i dont want the ubuntu to fail	00:08
ikonia	x_: loads of guys in #winehq may have a more solid experience	00:08
mushy	]=	00:08
Jack_Sparrow	Toys - R - Us must have been handing out Ubuntu CD's again.. :)	00:08
mushy	sorry	00:08
wasme	Hi ... when I try to drag and drop songs into my ipod with rhythmbox it automaticly transcodes the .ogg to .m4a (aac), which is good, but the transcoded songs don't play on the ipod. I tried playing them on rhythmbox and the sound like vinyl records with lots of skips in theme. Anyone have any clue what's wrong and how to fix it (besides transcoding the files manually myself)?	00:08
x_	ikonia i don't know that thing u sad :-(	00:08
smartboyalex77	Hello can someone help me	00:08
scguy318	Jack_Sparrow: I wonder how many of them tried to put the CD in the floppy drive? :P	00:08
x_	ikonia what's that ?! is that a command line ?!	00:08
javaJake	Jack_Sparrow, what makes you think that? :)	00:08
Jack_Sparrow	!ask \| smartboyalex77	00:08
ubotu	smartboyalex77: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	00:08
IndyGunFreak	!someone \| smartboyalex77	00:08
ubotu	smartboyalex77: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	00:08
mushy	will ubuntu always bee(buzz!) the best from here on out?	00:08
ikonia	x_: the channel #winehq on freenode is full of guys using wine and support it. They may have more expeirence knowing if it will work with wine or not	00:08
ipiz	lappy you want to mount a windows partition, right? .. Mount means making a foreign filesystem looks like part of a main tree.	00:09
smartboyalex77	I did	00:09
ikonia	mushy: thats personal opinion	00:09
TheZealot	is it unsafe to allow zone transferring on large network?	00:09
x_	thanks	00:09
ikonia	TheZealot: it certainly can be	00:09
Clay_The_Arc	okay	00:09
smartboyalex77	how do I change the path of music(in the places menu) to a different path (one on another partition)	00:09
mushy	what do you mean opinion? what more could you need i havnt had to really do anything and my linux runs like a champ	00:09
mushy	what other linux can do that	00:09
Clay_The_Arc	squid is downloaded, what now?	00:09
ikonia	mushy: thats great. Well done	00:09
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: you need to configure it, the link I sent you earlier will give you some ideas	00:10
chester_martins	WHEN I leave my pc turned on with p2p active (downloading), the wireless connection disconnect and i need to reboot pc to solv the problem :S	00:10
chester_martins	can anybody help me?	00:10
kdubois	if i want my pdf's to run with xpdf instead of evince, how do i configure that?	00:10
Clay_The_Arc	what link?	00:10
wasme	smartboyalex77: that's nautilus' bookmarks	00:10
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: for your needs I suggest using as large a cache option as possible	00:10
onats	is there any way to expand the /home folder by just resizing the partition?	00:10
Clay_The_Arc	i stpped out of the room and missed it	00:10
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: that way your dial up access will be optimised for browsing	00:10
Clay_The_Arc	ikonia, cant i set it to delete it?	00:10
mushy	i got compiz on my systemits so pretty	00:10
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: delete what ?	00:10
Clay_The_Arc	nvm	00:10
mats_	Hey, having troubles getting sound from my microphone in ubuntu 7.10...i have a creative audigy 4 soundcard	00:10
Clay_The_Arc	lol, wasn't thinking clearly	00:10
Clay_The_Arc	:]	00:10
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: no problem	00:10
Jack_Sparrow	onats: Be aware that resizing any partition on a drive will reset all uuid's on that partition...	00:10
Clay_The_Arc	what's the link for squid configuration again if you please	00:11
Wing	If there any way to jail an SSH user into their home directory?	00:11
ikonia	!squid \| Clay_The_Arc	00:11
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about squid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:11
ikonia	ah	00:11
smartboyalex77	nautilus ? I am a total newbie by the way (I installed it 2 hours ago)	00:11
Jack_Sparrow	Nautilus is a file manager	00:11
onats	jack_Sparrow, what would be the effect of this?	00:11
wasme	smartboyalex77: go to any filemanager window (like, the home directory or somethnig), then there's a bookmarks menu. Go to 'Edit Bookmarks'	00:12
Clay_The_Arc	FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname. Please set 'visible_hostname'	00:12
Clay_The_Arc	^ how do i set "visible_hostname"	00:12
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: what are you doing?	00:12
Clay_The_Arc	typed "sudo squid"	00:12
Clay_The_Arc	n it returned that	00:12
Jack_Sparrow	onats: grub and fstab will no longer point to the correct partitions.. and you most likely will not boot into ubuntu	00:12
bluejay	hello	00:12
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: why did you do that ?	00:12
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: I told you it has to be configured before you use it	00:12
Clay_The_Arc	idk	00:12
Clay_The_Arc	i know :P	00:13
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: then why did you do it	00:13
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ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: if you're not interested in listening to help and advice, you won't continue to get it	00:13
chester_martins	WHEN I leave my pc turned on with p2p active (downloading), the wireless connection disconnect and i need to reboot pc to solv the problem :S	00:13
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Clay_The_Arc	I'm interested in listening to it.	00:13
bluejay	can anyone recommend me a good online music player through which i can listen to my songs on my computer?	00:13
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: then go and google for squid, I've told you what not to do, and you just did it	00:13
Clay_The_Arc	:\ k	00:13
pacman__	I put XP on an old HD and I'm wanting to set it up so it asks me on boot up which OS to load	00:14
ikonia	pacman__: you need to boot from a hard disk with grub on, then configure grub to be aware of both ubuntu and your new windows XP	00:14
rsk	pacman__: offtopic	00:14
ikonia	rsk: thats not offtopic	00:14
meoblast001	hello	00:14
kdubois	where do you set default pdf viewer program?	00:14
pacman__	I saw where I can make the timeout quicker	00:14
rsk	ikonia: i never saw anything ubuntu related in there	00:15
meoblast001	i searched google and can't find the answer to this, but i installed Pidgin through the repos and i cant figure out where to put plugins	00:15
ikonia	pacman__: ok, so you have grub installed, thats great	00:15
meoblast001	can someone help me with that?	00:15
rsk	ikonia: but if you say soo.	00:15
ikonia	rsk: wanting the boot loader to offer windows as a boot option	00:15
onats	jack_sparrow, its just my /home folder, which is separated to another partition.. i plan to extend the size of this partition.. its located between my / partition and the swap space.. so only the swap will be moved.. will it still have the same effect/	00:15
onats	?	00:15
mats_	Hey, having troubles getting sound from my microphone in ubuntu 7.10...i have a creative audigy 4 soundcard	00:15
mats_	what to do?	00:15
IndyGunFreak	kdubois: easiest thing, right click a pdf file, properties, open with tab, and choose the program you want	00:15
rsk	mats_: alsamixer and unmute mic ?	00:15
mats_	not muted...	00:16
smartboyalex77	okI think I figured it out thanx	00:16
bluejay	does anyone use MPD?	00:16
dury	hi there all channel :)	00:16
kdubois	IndyGunFreak: of course, but i want it to by default not use evince, which hogs memory insatiably	00:16
ikonia	bluejay: mpd ?	00:16
Jack_Sparrow	onats: Changing ANY partition on that drive..	00:16
cleaton	seems like non of my virtual consoles are working, it's just black when i do ctrl+alt + number. what can i do to make them work again?	00:16
bluejay	ikonia// Music Player Daemon	00:16
onats	jack_Sparrow, ok	00:16
onats	thanks	00:16
Clay_The_Arc	ikonia, i'm on google and see no guides to setting it up :$	00:17
ikonia	bluejay: never heard of it	00:17
IndyGunFreak	kdubois: it shouldnj't do that.. ,at least it doesn't for me, i chose the program i wanted, and it always uses it.	00:17
Jack_Sparrow	onats: it can be fixed.. just wanted to prepare you	00:17
bluejay	ikonia// o..	00:17
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: thats not my concern, I offered you advice and you did the exact opposite	00:17
kitche	kdubois: probably have to change the mimetype application for .pdf's	00:17
IndyGunFreak	you could uninstall evince, that would guarantee it doesn't get used..lol	00:17
ericmoritz\0	hi I have a laptop that I'm using to read ebooks by rotating the screen with xrandr so that i can hold the laptop like a book, the only issue is that when I run xrandr -o left, the trackpad doesn't rotate so moving the cursor up actually moves it left. Anyone have a solution, I'm using the synaptics driver	00:17
kdubois	IndyGunFreak: i'll guess i'll just have to delve into system internals to find out where it is....	00:17
dury	I'm in the terminal and what the super.user password	00:17
Clay_The_Arc	:\, I was awaiting your link and wanted to see what errors it got when ran normally	00:18
inciner9	I installed apache2 and no-ip via apt and everything was working perfectly until I tried to access the server through no-ip. Running "host no-ipaddress" gives me my IP but if I put "no-ipaddress" in firefox, I can't open it.	00:18
ikonia	ericmoritz\0: thats a very specific requirment, I'd put money on it not being in the touchpad driver	00:18
ikonia	dury: there is no super user password	00:18
onats	jack_Sparrow, ok, i will try it, thanks for the tip. won't find out how to fix til i go for it	00:18
meoblast001	does anyone know where to put pidgin plugins?	00:18
kregg	does anyone know if the current compiz fusion in ubuntu gutsy is stable or not?	00:18
ipiz	meoblast001 ~/.purple	00:18
kdubois	i did uninstall evince :-D	00:19
am_	sethk, i'm back, tell me whenever your ready (if you see this)	00:19
ikonia	kregg: stable	00:19
kitche	kregg: stable as in what?	00:19
kdubois	kregg: the default installation is stable	00:19
arooni	is there anyway of batch transforming 15 4000x3000 images into 640x480 or 1280x1024 images ? i hate doing this manually	00:19
meoblast001	kregg: idk but i can tell you it acts funny on some video cards	00:19
ikonia	kregg: its a stable release	00:19
kregg	yes that what i mean	00:19
kregg	thanks	00:19
inciner9	kregg: Hasn't crashed yet for me, and I've been running it since launch.	00:19
ikonia	arooni: I'm sure you could script it with image magic	00:19
kregg	i have intel onboard chipset graphics	00:19
kregg	it's not that it acts extremely funny	00:19
ikonia	kregg: I'm using it, I do have bugs with it, but that doesn't mean it's not stable	00:19
kdubois	kregg: if its an intel 965, that driver has problemo's....	00:19
mats_	Anyone know? I have a creative audigy 4 and my microphone is unmuted in alsa mixer, but still no sound...	00:19
dury	someone has installed "hjb3_0-linux.sfx" that's hotjava browser	00:19
ikonia	dury: do you have a problem with it ?	00:20
dury	yeah	00:20
ikonia	dury: do you want to share them	00:20
kdubois	mats_: go ask in #alsa for better results	00:20
kregg	but i have noticed that, for example when I leave the comp for 15 mins and come back, i can't resume my session i.e. i am forced to push the reset button on my pc	00:20
mats_	Thanks!	00:20
dury	yeah why not	00:20
kitche	kregg: well with intel chips compiz-fusion won't work that great anyways	00:20
ikonia	kregg: suspend is causing a lot of problems in general	00:20
Kl4m	Can I tell mkswap to do a write test (not read only as in mkswap -c) or to use a list from badblocks?	00:20
dury	ikonia: of course	00:20
kregg	suspend?	00:21
kregg	even in previous versions?	00:21
kregg	i mean i still have my dapper with me	00:21
kitche	kregg: it could be the driver you usign as well if you use the intel driver since it crashes all the time on certain chipsets	00:21
kregg	well it doesn't crash all the time	00:21
ikonia	kregg: suspend with desktop effects etc, has been known to cause issues	00:21
Clay_The_Arc	ikonia, Please give me some help on setting up Squid there is like no guides to it on Google.	00:21
kregg	it crashes quite randomly	00:22
kregg	but at least once a day	00:22
kregg	it would be like I'll be playing Nexuiz on my pc	00:22
bluejay	흑	00:22
kregg	and then i go back and everthing seems really laggy and horrible	00:22
PriitM_	Hi! Is there any program with what I could take video of my screen? Thank you	00:23
kregg	If i tell you my motherboard name, could you determine what chipset it is (if it is this imfamous p965 one)?	00:23
ikonia	kregg: just use lcpci	00:23
ikonia	kregg: see what intel video card pops up	00:23
bluejay	PriitM_// gtk-RecordMyDesktop	00:23
PriitM_	bluejay, thank you very much	00:23
kregg	i'm in windows right now... :(	00:23
jacob	what's the channel for C++?	00:23
bluejay	PriitM_// np :)	00:23
ikonia	jacob: #c++	00:23
crdlb	jacob: ##c++	00:24
am_	um, can someone else help me with my dual booting problems? sethk seems to be busy	00:24
Clay_The_Arc	ikonia, is TOR the same as Squid?	00:24
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ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: nothing like it	00:24
Clay_The_Arc	Mkay	00:24
kregg	so my best bet really is to abandon compiz then?	00:24
ipiz	What can cause this: When you login to a ubuntu server, through putty (ssh port:22), executing commands kinda lags?	00:24
Clay_The_Arc	ugh ;\|, there's nothing on google on configuration ofit	00:24
ikonia	ipiz: network lag ?	00:25
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ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: there are many things	00:25
Clay_The_Arc	im on google	00:25
PriceChild	ipiz, bad connection?	00:25
Clay_The_Arc	and every result	00:25
Clay_The_Arc	is just ppl saying they've isntalled it	00:25
Clay_The_Arc	not how	00:25
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: I apologise but I'm through helping you as I was walking you through it step by step and you continued to do your own thing and ignore what I was saying	00:25
Clay_The_Arc	I didn't ignore what you were saying.	00:26
realityiswhere	Clay_The_Arc: I just did a google search for Squid Setup, first search result comes up as a walkthrough...	00:26
PriceChild	Clay_The_Arc, there is a good howto by jdong on ubuntuforums.org if you look there.	00:26
ikonia	ipiz: is it any specific commands, or just in general	00:26
Clay_The_Arc	realityiswhere, are you serious	00:26
am_	can someone else help me with my dual booting problems? sethk seems to be busy	00:26
ikonia	am_: what are the problems	00:26
Clay_The_Arc	:\| i searched "how to configure squid on ubuntu 7.10" nothing :\|	00:26
Nvrnight	Anyone know where I can find instructions on how to compile a non-standard file on ubuntu?	00:26
realityiswhere	Clay_The_Arc: you're being to specific.	00:26
ikonia	Nvrnight: non-standard file ?	00:26
kitche	Clay_The_Arc: just look up how to configure squid since it pretty much the same	00:26
am_	ikonia: i tried to install GAG, but first off its not graphical when i boot up, secondly the 4th thing it shows, Vista/Longhorn (Loader), doesnt load anything	00:27
Clay_The_Arc	ah	00:27
Clay_The_Arc	mkay	00:27
Nvrnight	it says I need to use configure or something like that, sorry I'm a bit new to this stuff	00:27
ikonia	Nvrnight: what are you trying to install ?	00:27
ikonia	!info gag	00:27
am_	ikonia: so i need Vista to be working, i dont really care if its graphical, it was working before...	00:27
ubotu	Package gag does not exist in gutsy	00:27
Nvrnight	a bin.tgz file	00:27
kregg	well thanks for your help	00:27
ikonia	am_: gag ?	00:27
ipiz	ikonia Possibly, if the ubuntu server is downloading a massive file, would that slow the "execute command lag" down?	00:27
kregg	and another thing	00:27
ikonia	Nvrnight: which one ?	00:27
ikonia	ipiz: yes	00:27
Nvrnight	klassmodeler-0.8.bin.tgz	00:28
ikonia	ipiz: your network "throughput" would be less	00:28
kregg	on my laptop	00:28
ipiz	PriceChild Don't think so, but thanks for trying..	00:28
am_	ikonia: i think that was it, it was a graphical boot manager	00:28
am_	ikonia: i did a google search, and it seemed to be the one people used	00:28
ikonia	am_: I don't think gag is anything to do with ubuntu, I can't find any information on it (I'm searching)	00:28
ipiz	ikonia and "throughput" is the amount of data that goes through the pipe for a period of time, correct?	00:28
am_	ikonia: maybe it was GRUB?	00:28
kregg	using vista, I can get the wireless to work fine - it came built in with it. I use the ubuntu live disc (version Gutsy Gibbon) and it doesn't recognise it!	00:29
ikonia	ipiz: yes, if you can say type 10 commands at once, then say the download is 8 commands worth, you can only use 2 commands at a time (as a very easy example)	00:29
ikonia	am_: ahh grub	00:29
am_	ikonia: i dont remember, one or the other...seth told me to get my something.lst, so i have it on my pastebin	00:29
ikonia	am_: menu.lst	00:29
ikonia	am_: when you boot your machine, what do you see ?	00:29
am_	ikonia: yes...its here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48490/	00:29
kregg	sorry to be a nag but can anyone help with my laptop situation	00:30
ikonia	am_: ok, so what do you see when you boot	00:30
meoblast001	does anyone know how to use pidgin-rhythmbox after installing it?	00:30
am_	ikonia: i see the opening thing, the white on black words, the first 3 being working Ubuntu boots, the fourth says Vista/Longhorn (Loader)	00:30
Jack_Sparrow	!wifi \| kregg	00:30
Clay_The_Arc	what's the "Squid Dir"	00:30
Clay_The_Arc	:\|	00:30
ubotu	kregg: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	00:30
ikonia	kregg: what situation	00:30
ipiz	ikonia Alright, what if it's _not_ the download? What else could it be?	00:30
am_	ikonia: the fourth one just restarts that menu	00:30
ikonia	am_: what happens when you select xp	00:30
ikonia	am_: no error ?	00:30
Clay_The_Arc	o	00:30
kregg	using vista, I can get the wireless to work fine - it came built in with it. I use the ubuntu live disc (version Gutsy Gibbon) and it doesn't recognise it!	00:30
am_	ikonia: its vista, and nothing happens at all	00:30
Clay_The_Arc	didn't see the squid folder	00:30
Clay_The_Arc	nvm that	00:30
kregg	use !wifi command?	00:31
realityiswhere	kregg: What's your wireless chipset?	00:31
IndyGunFreak	kregg: having trouble w/ wireless on the live disks is pretty common.	00:31
kregg	oh god	00:31
IndyGunFreak	!wifi \| kregg	00:31
ubotu	kregg: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	00:31
ikonia	am_: try changing the hd(0,2) to hd(0,1) in the menu.lst file	00:31
kregg	thanks ubotu	00:31
ikonia	am_: I'm only guessing at your partition layout	00:31
Jack_Sparrow	kregg: No... read the help file...	00:31
kregg	help file?	00:31
Zeddie	I really must find out why ctrl-alt-f1 gives me a black screen in x	00:31
IndyGunFreak	!yourwelcome \| kregg	00:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about yourwelcome - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:31
kregg	you mean the man pages?	00:31
Zeddie	I want bloody console :(	00:31
ipiz	ikonia I understand about "Throughput", but wouldn't it have less "bandwdith" or wouldn't "bandwidth" have a key role on this?	00:32
am_	ikonia: ok, but also i guessed on the sda3, im not really sure how to check but it had sounded farmiliar	00:32
Clay_The_Arc	ikonia, what editor opens .conf files?	00:32
ikonia	ipiz: bandwidth is not th key issue, but your right in general, your network card can only do so much at once	00:32
Jack_Sparrow	kregg: !wifi brought up the help pages.. not a man page..	00:32
kregg	realityiswhere: I really don't have a clue what chipset it is	00:32
ipiz	Clay_The_Arc any. nano / vi / gedit etc.	00:32
ikonia	Clay_The_Arc: please ask the channel, I've explained my situation to you	00:32
Clay_The_Arc	k	00:32
kregg	realityiswhere: it came with the laptop	00:32
Erealz	hey everyone I need to know if vnc is a good viable solution for helping out my sister with problems from home ? please contact me direct	00:33
Jack_Sparrow	kregg: click this link... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	00:33
Zeddie	kregg : well you'll need to find out the chipset	00:33
Slart	Erealz: if she has an internet-connection faster than a modem.. then yes	00:33
kregg	Zeddie: ok then once I find the chipsets then I will come back with more luck	00:34
kregg	thanks guys	00:34
kregg	bye	00:34
Zeddie	kregg: the wireless command line commands start with iw	00:34
Clay_The_Arc	any1 else here help me with configuring squid? :\|	00:34
ipiz	ikonia Since the connection speed is determined by how "fat" the pipe is, which carries voices+data, if you were to download a massive kickas_s_ file, would that leave you with a tiny pipe out of the "fat" pipe due to downloading, therefore bottleneck occurs?	00:34
kregg	iw? thanks for that	00:34
Erealz	is vnc installed by defoult ?	00:34
ikonia	erisco: I don't think working with a desktop is a good solution for remote support, unless you really really need it	00:34
Slart	Erealz: you can check out freenx too.. I think it might be better if the connection is slow	00:34
ikonia	Erealz: no, its not by default	00:34
ipiz	ikonia s/would/wouldn't	00:34
am_	ikonia: it doesnt seem to let me save it?	00:34
ikonia	ipiz: ye	00:34
Jack_Sparrow	kregg: lspci may also be useful	00:34
mushy	:-*	00:34
ikonia	ipiz: yes	00:34
damaltor	hello everyboda. is there anybody here who can help me with scsi problems in ubuntu? i have got an scsi streamer and an scsi cd-rw drive. both work good in any live distri i tested (Damnsmall, knoppix,...) but none of them is found with an installes xubuntu system.	00:34
erisco	ikonia, what?	00:35
ipiz	ikonia therefore bottleneck creates problem.	00:35
mushy	A/S/L	00:35
ikonia	am_: can you please login to ubuntu and put the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" in a pastebin please.	00:35
ikonia	ipiz: yes	00:35
ikonia	erisco: vnc is not installed by default	00:35
Zeddie	nobody helps with my console problem :(	00:35
Erealz	witch vnc do I install that in the repo	00:35
eyyYo	How does the compatibility between OpenOffice and MS Office 2007 look? Is it 100%? Included Word, PowerPoint etc.	00:35
mushy	age/location/sexual preference	00:35
erisco	ikonia, wrong person? watch your auto completion :P	00:35
Slart	mushy: this is the ubuntu support channel.. there are other channesl for that	00:35
ikonia	erisco: sorry	00:35
teknoalpha	does emerald change my applications bar appearance?	00:35
Synx_hm	Anyone use twinview? I've got it working however i only have the taskbar/menubar on the right screen	00:35
mushy	whats the #?	00:36
mushy	the channel $	00:36
ikonia	mushy: not hear	00:36
mushy	#	00:36
doorknob60	twinview only makes it on 1 screen	00:36
mushy	hear?	00:36
am_	ikonia: should'nt i save the thingy first	00:36
ikonia	mushy: this is a support channel only for the ubuntu OS, and it is gonverned by the ubuntu code oc conduct	00:36
ipiz	ikonia so, basically .. bandwidth plays a role on this.	00:36
ikonia	!coc > mushy	00:36
ikonia	ipiz: yes	00:36
erisco	I hate external media! GAH!! Last boot my CD was mounting FINE. Now Ubuntu doesn't recognize the disk's existence! It will not mount whatsoever... it still mounts fine on windows though. What GIVES?	00:36
Slart	mushy: /list to get a list of channels... /join #channel to join a channel	00:36
mushy	ubuntu code of conduct how can i join	00:36
mushy	i want to rewrite this conduct	00:37
ikonia	mushy: read the link	00:37
Erealz	umm vnc dosnt seem to come up in the repo	00:37
ipiz	ikonia One more time, you say "yes", I have to kill you :P ..	00:37
ikonia	Erealz: it is in there	00:37
ikonia	ipiz: ok	00:37
mushy	ikonia how do i get your job	00:37
Erealz	I tryped in vnc in the terminal and nothing came up	00:37
flush	hrmm.. any of you folks got a nintendo wii and knows what the hell is "error 61010" all about.. while trying to play online.. my logs on my firewall box shows everything is ACCEPT from the wii console.. i just cant figure out whats wrong, it wont connect.. returning the so called error 61010	00:37
Jack_Sparrow	!ot \| mushy	00:37
ubotu	mushy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	00:37
mushy	flush nintendo.com has a error code lookup	00:37
ipiz	ikonia Ubuntu server is downloading massive files, how come it doesn't affect vnc but it does on ssh?	00:37
kitche	!offtopic \| flush	00:37
ubotu	flush: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	00:37
Erealz	usely if its not installed it will say you know sudo apt-get install theprograms	00:37
ipiz	ikonia I mean, if you lower the quality on vnc	00:38
ipiz	it doesn't lag	00:38
flush	no really	00:38
billboy	a t-il un nouveau fix pour le coolsat 7000 pvr le 1.26 a laché	00:38
ikonia	ipiz: vnc is probably taking up $X % of your bandwidth	00:38
flush	mushy thx	00:38
linux__	how do i change my ip address in linux ??????	00:38
Slart	!fr \| billboy	00:38
ubotu	billboy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	00:38
ikonia	linux__: use the network admin gui system --> administration --> network	00:38
ipiz	linux__ lan ip or wan ip?	00:38
damaltor	hello everybody. is there anybody here who can help me with scsi problems in ubuntu? i have got an scsi streamer and an scsi cd-rw drive. both work good in any live distri i tested (Damnsmall, knoppix,...) but none of them is found with an installes xubuntu system.	00:38
Erealz	I just did sudo aptget install vnc and nothing	00:39
tom___	has anyone had any luck getting a geforce fx5700LE TV-out working? I've been at it for ages. I get cat it to work, but not with the nvidia drivers, which are required for mplayer...	00:39
Erealz	sup with that	00:39
mushy	this channel use to be alot more friendly before we got the nazis of the ubuntu coc!!!	00:39
ikonia	Erealz: the package is not called vnc	00:39
erisco	I hate external media! GAH!! Last boot my CD was mounting FINE. Now Ubuntu doesn't recognize the disk's existence! It will not mount whatsoever... it still mounts fine on windows though. What GIVES?	00:39
Erealz	is vnc not supoorted by ubuntu anymore	00:39
ikonia	Erealz: yes it is	00:39
ikonia	Erealz: it is in the ubuntu repo's	00:39
Erealz	what it called now	00:39
Slart	!info vnc-server	00:39
Jack_Sparrow	Erealz: sudo apt-get ....	00:39
ipiz	ikonia Does "putty" has any similar options like "lowering the quality on vnc" ?	00:39
ubotu	Package vnc-server does not exist in gutsy	00:39
Erealz	if not vnc	00:39
ikonia	Erealz: search the repo's thre are many vnc packages	00:40
ikonia	ipiz: no, putty is a text emulator client only	00:40
Slart	!info vncserver	00:40
Synx_hm	Anyone use twinview? I've got it working however i only have the taskbar/menubar on the right screen	00:40
Erealz	why isn't supported anymore	00:40
ipiz	ikonia How about the bits?	00:40
ikonia	Erealz: it IS	00:40
ikonia	ipiz: bits ?	00:40
Slart	Erealz: they separated the client and server parts.. vncserver is the server	00:40
ubotu	vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-14ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 544 kB, installed size 1252 kB	00:40
ikonia	Synx_hm: I think you need "span" option in tinview	00:40
ipiz	ikonia compressed bits or something, don't remember.	00:40
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ikonia	ipiz: not really worth it	00:40
damaltor	hello everybody. is there anybody here who can help me with scsi problems in ubuntu? i have got an scsi streamer and an scsi cd-rw drive. both work good in any live distri i tested (Damnsmall, knoppix,...) but none of them is found with an installed xubuntu system.	00:41
Synx_hm	ikonia: thanks im looking into the xorg.conf right now	00:41
Jack_Sparrow	Erealz: If you typed sudo aptget install vnc I am not surprised you got nothing	00:41
ikonia	Synx_hm: I'm working from memory but its "desktop span" mode someting like option desktop span	00:41
ipiz	ikonia Thanks for the help.	00:41
ikonia	Synx_hm: but thats from memory	00:41
ikonia	ipiz: welcome	00:41
Erealz	k vncserver in the terminal finally spit sum option of install	00:41
Erealz	* tightvncserver	00:41
Erealz	* vnc4server	00:41
Erealz	* vncserver	00:41
Clay_The_Arc	Jack_Sparrow, do you know anything about configuring squid?	00:41
Slart	Erealz: I think apt-get supports tab completion.. so type apt-get install vnc and press tab.. you should get a list	00:41
Jack_Sparrow	Clay_The_Arc: I know nothing...	00:41
tom___	Is anyone using a geforce fx5700le with tv out?	00:41
ipiz	ikonia It definitely makes sense, when you said "Throughput" would be less,.	00:41
am_	ikonia: ok i got it, one second	00:42
ikonia	ipiz: good	00:42
doorknob60	i got gefore fx5200 with tv out	00:42
Erealz	ok couse here the situation I built the box for my sister she love ubuntu	00:42
erisco	okay now what gives...	00:42
Erealz	but	00:42
erisco	nothing is mounting	00:42
Clay_The_Arc	k	00:42
erisco	regardless of disk	00:42
erisco	everything was working half an hour ago...	00:42
Erealz	I need to know what she needs to install	00:42
ikonia	Erealz: is hal runnign ?	00:42
Erealz	if I knew what hal is I would tell you	00:42
am_	ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48492/	00:43
phasegen	anyone know any good tutorials for syncing a palm with ubuntu?	00:43
ikonia	Erealz: didn't mean you, sorry	00:43
ikonia	erisco: is hal running	00:43
Erealz	* tightvncserver	00:43
Erealz	* vnc4server	00:43
Erealz	* vncserver	00:43
erisco	ikonia, how do I check	00:43
Erealz	witch one do I install	00:43
Erealz	all the obove or what?	00:43
erisco	ikonia, I have had these random problems in the past... I'd be great if I could learn a bit and fix em	00:43
Slart	Erealz: go with vncserver	00:43
Erealz	k	00:44
ikonia	am_: it needs to be either hd(0,2) or hd(0,3)	00:44
Kano	(hd0,2)	00:44
Kano	is grub syntax	00:44
Erealz	how do I connect to my sister box what client do I use	00:44
ikonia	Kano: what ?	00:44
Xacarith	easy one, how do you stop the X server	00:44
am_	ikonia: it was on hd(0,2) if i remember right, so 0,3 would be right then?	00:44
Erealz	I don't see one	00:44
ikonia	am_: I assume so, as you only have two ntfs partitions	00:44
Kano	hm wrong,sorry	00:44
ikonia	am_: one must be your windows one	00:44
am_	ikonia: yea i kinda messed up on my partitioning'	00:45
realityiswhere	Xacarith: You can use alt-ctrl-backspace to restart your x-server	00:45
Slart	!info vnc-common \| Erealz	00:45
ubotu	erealz: vnc-common: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-14ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 60 kB, installed size 184 kB	00:45
Slart	nope.. that's still server	00:45
Xacarith	realityiswhere I don't need to reset it, I need to stop it if I want to install NVidia's drivers	00:45
Erealz	!info vnc-common	00:46
ubotu	vnc-common: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-14ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 60 kB, installed size 184 kB	00:46
am_	ikonia: it says Could not save	00:46
Slart	Erealz: the client is usually called vnc viewer or something similar.. search the repos	00:46
ikonia	am_: use sudo to edit	00:46
netinha	pessoal, tô assistindo transformers aqui pelo Totem, no entanto não vejo o menu principal para escolher o idioma e legendas ? como configurar o totem para ver o menu principal ?	00:46
Erealz	fuck sake~!~	00:46
am_	ikonia: huh? sorry, can u explain	00:46
ikonia	Erealz: that language is uncalled for and unwelcome	00:46
Pici	!language \| Erealz	00:46
ubotu	Erealz: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	00:46
ari_stress	morning all :D	00:46
Xacarith	I missplaced the commands I used before which involved a stop and gdm though the command /etc/init.d/gdm stop does not seem to be working	00:47
ikonia	am_: use sudo $editor $file to edit	00:47
rsfriends	i have problem with my mic, when i use skype the other persone cant hear me, i have tried many thing now, how can i fix that problem?	00:47
wasme	Xacarith: as a last resort you could just kill it.	00:47
sethk	rsfriends, use a telephone	00:47
Xacarith	twitch Kill it? Well if need be..	00:47
gnomy	hello	00:47
Slart	Xacarith: doesn't work?.. any output? I think CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE does a reset of X/gdm too	00:47
Erealz	hmm that funny vncviewer	00:48
Erealz	is installed by defoult	00:48
rsfriends	what do you mean use telephone?	00:48
am_	ikonia: ok, ill be back if it doesnt work..thanks!	00:48
T1m0thy	Does anyone know of an unstable repo for Ubuntu or at least one that keeps an up to date version of Pidgin?	00:48
jay	what does it mean when i get an error saying composite not available when trying to change the appearance settings to show more special effects	00:48
realityiswhere	Xacarith: You can reboot, then do it from the recovery console. then do "apt-get install nvidia-glx-new" since recovery console is run as root.	00:48
casdio	i have a problem with a comand... can you help me?	00:48
MikeH	anyone know why, even though I've set computer idle timeout to 1hr, my screensaver is still coming on after 10-15 minutes?	00:49
casdio	carlos@carlos-laptop:/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/media/snd-hda-intel$ sudo make install-modules	00:49
casdio	make: *** No rule to make target `install-modules'. Stop.	00:49
MikeH	Well, screen goes blank, is there something else controlling screensaver/power saving?	00:49
Xacarith	Slart Yes, it says it's stopping it but doesn't. And I don't need it restarted I need it stopped for the installation of nvidia drivers. Unless some one knows how to use twinview with the linux drivers.	00:49
ikonia	casdio: what are you trying to do ?	00:49
casdio	what's his?	00:49
ikonia	casdio: install a kernel ?	00:49
Erealz	ok well since I have the client apperntly to log into my sister box but what server should she install	00:49
casdio	ikonia: instal alsa drives	00:49
Slart	Xacarith: hmm.. pkill gdm then.. or rather sudp pkill gdm	00:49
Yutlin	Hey all, I'm working on getting a diskless Ubuntu system to network boot. I've followed the guide online and the system now gets an IP and begins booting the provided kernel. The problem is, during boot I get a kernel panic with the error message: "Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf". I've configured /tmp to be type tmpfs in fstab but there seems to be some problem. Any suggestions?	00:49
gnomy	hey	00:49
Ganjistus	meowagi, the cat from mr. miagi	00:50
ikonia	casdio: alsa is already installed on ubuntu installs	00:50
Xacarith	realityiswhere I'm trying to install the dirvers downloaded from NVidia so I can use twinview	00:50
erisco	ikonia, I have had these random problems in the past... I'd be great if I could learn a bit and fix em	00:50
Ganjistus	i gnome a problemn	00:50
gnomy	do dual monitors work on ubuntu at all	00:50
doorknob60	ya	00:50
ikonia	erisco: ok	00:50
Ganjistus	i have to stop the gnomes	00:50
doorknob60	im usin dual monitors atm	00:50
ikonia	erisco: good luck	00:50
Xacarith	gnomy Very nicely	00:50
gnomy	door how	00:50
Ganjistus	i need to stop gnomes for installing a nvidia driver	00:50
casdio	ikonia: sorry, install my sound card	00:50
gnomy	i tried google and the forums	00:50
doorknob60	u got nvidia or ati?	00:50
kyle_	Sound Juicer?	00:50
gnomy	i have nothing	00:50
casdio	i don't have sound =/	00:50
Erealz	ok well since I have the client apperntly to log into my sister box but what server should she install	00:50
ikonia	gnomy: different cards/setups work with different levels of ease and effect	00:50
gnomy	nvidia door	00:50
Slart	Ganjistus: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop	00:50
erisco	ikonia, you were talking about seeing if hal was running...	00:50
doorknob60	u dont got a video card?	00:50
kyle_	what does sound juicer do? is it a cd audio player?	00:50
doorknob60	oh ok	00:50
ikonia	Erealz: stop asking every 5 seconds	00:50
Ganjistus	i tried that	00:50
gnomy	2 monitors	00:51
doorknob60	ummm u got the proprietary drivers?	00:51
Slart	kyle_: cd ripper I think	00:51
ikonia	erisco: yes, but it must be	00:51
erisco	ikonia, well I restarted hal to no different effect	00:51
gnomy	ya	00:51
Ganjistus	gdm stop , but it wont work	00:51
wasme	kyle_: cd ripper	00:51
Erealz	sound juicer	00:51
doorknob60	sudo nvidia-settings	00:51
gnomy	i got the restrited drivers	00:51
Ganjistus	yeah the ganjaproprietary driver	00:51
kyle_	ah	00:51
Xacarith	I've always had to sacrifice destop effects though as linux doesn't like nvidia's drivers as much as their own	00:51
gnomy	door im messaging you	00:51
doorknob60	k	00:51
Erealz	hey those anyone know what the best vncserver to install couse their like 3 of em the repo?	00:52
ikonia	Erealz: stop asking every 5 seconds	00:52
Jack_Sparrow	!best	00:52
ubotu	Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.	00:52
Slart	Erealz: want me to cut and paste our conversation from 5 minutes ago?	00:52
Erealz	I don't care	00:52
rsfriends	do somebody have a good idea how i can fix my mic	00:52
Erealz	go for it	00:52
erisco	ikonia, I am getting something out of the mount command now...	00:52
gnomy	door you get my message ?	00:52
doorknob60	no	00:52
ikonia	erisco: ok	00:53
erisco	ikonia, I am trying to mount the cdrom now... all that is happening is the disk is spinning	00:53
erisco	ikonia, it isn't mounting	00:53
gnomy	how bout now door ?	00:53
ikonia	erisco: what command are you using	00:53
ikonia	erisco: what error are you getting ?	00:53
doorknob60	nothing	00:53
am_	ikonia: it said Error 12 - something or other	00:53
gnomy	try nessaging me door	00:53
doorknob60	k	00:53
ikonia	am_: something or other doesn't help	00:53
ikonia	am_: I need exact errors	00:53
doorknob60	oh im unregistered	00:53
gnomy	huh ?	00:53
am_	ikonia: it was something like Invalid something	00:53
Slart	Erealz: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/2805/	00:53
Erealz	well their over a 1000ppl here I don't see what the hell you typed couse the other few 1000 people are typeing so mayb I didn't see wile everyone elses msg are comeing in	00:53
doorknob60	[505] Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )	00:53
am_	if thats not enough ill go back...	00:53
doorknob60	thats what it said	00:54
Erealz	you think?....	00:54
ikonia	am_: I've just said less than 5 seconds ago, "something" doesn't help, I need exact error messages	00:54
erisco	ikonia, sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0	00:54
erisco	ikonia, no error	00:54
am_	ikonia: ok ill be back	00:54
Dr_willis	Erealz, i use vnc4server it seems to work best for me	00:54
ikonia	erisco: does it do anything ?	00:54
erisco	ikonia, well look at that... I took the disk out, popped it back in	00:54
gnomy	door how you make your screens work ?	00:54
erisco	ikonia, loaded up fine	00:54
ikonia	erisco: excellent	00:54
erisco	ikonia, but that isn't good... it is inconsistent	00:54
erisco	ikonia, a second ago it wasn't working whatsoever	00:54
ikonia	erisco: sounds like your drive may have a few bugs in it or be on the way out	00:54
doorknob60	i just set it up using "sudo nvidia-settings"	00:55
Erealz	what the differences between the other is their more advantages that the other server don't offer or are they all the same	00:55
erisco	ikonia, flaky cdrom drive is all I can think of	00:55
gnomy	that dont work for me	00:55
ikonia	erisco: sounds really	00:55
doorknob60	does it detect both monitors?	00:55
Ganjistus	crap	00:55
ikonia	Erealz: it's personal preference, install and try them, see what you think and what you like	00:55
Erealz	basically that what im getting at	00:55
erisco	ikonia, luckily I don't use it often	00:55
gnomy	ya detects both	00:55
Ganjistus	i need a new driver and compiz fusion won't stop	00:55
Ganjistus	i don't know why	00:55
doorknob60	what doesnt work about it?	00:55
ikonia	Erealz: give them a go, see what you think, you can easy remove/change them	00:56
Ganjistus	i have to play sauerbraten	00:56
gnomy	tells me it cant update	00:56
gnomy	it says i dont have x screen	00:56
Slart	Erealz: the different servers are basically the same.. some flavours offer some extra features.. but they are all compatible.. if you want the best experience match the client with the server	00:56
Ganjistus	because i need to kill some bananas	00:56
doorknob60	what can't update?	00:56
gnomy	the nvidia settings	00:56
Dr_willis	Erealz, ive had issues with the otehrs in the past.. vnc4server seems to work best from what ive tried.	00:56
Erealz	yea but I don't wana waste time with a sucky server if they just plainly suck you know	00:56
doorknob60	ya but what does it say that it can't update?	00:56
Clay_The_Arc	any1 have the link to thar guide on ubuntuforums for configuring squid?	00:56
Erealz	cool	00:56
am_	ikonia: invalid device requested, error 12	00:57
Erealz	do they all have the same option	00:57
Wing	I'm using ubuntu x64 and some of my software needs the 32bit libgtk1.2	00:57
Yutlin	Anyone have any insight on a "Can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf" error message during PXE boot?	00:57
gnomy	door what exactly where your settings ?	00:57
gnomy	twin or x veiw ?	00:57
Erealz	nothing special about from one to another right	00:57
Dr_willis	Erealz, Theya re basicially the same. ive had bugs imn the other ones.. vnc4server works best fromw hat ive seen	00:57
ikonia	Yutlin: the error is pretty spelt out	00:57
ikonia	Erealz: try them	00:57
doorknob60	twin	00:57
Erealz	k	00:57
Erealz	ill go with vnc4server	00:57
gnomy	Failed to set MetaMode (6) 'CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select @1440x900 +1440+0, CRT-1: 1440x900@60 @1440x900 +0+0' (Mode 2880x900, id: 55) on X screen 0	00:58
gnomy	Would you like to remove this MetaMode?	00:58
Slart	Clay_The_Arc: tried google? this was on the first page of hits... http://hwasungmars.wordpress.com/2006/09/02/installing-squid/	00:58
gnomy	i get that erroe essage	00:58
gnomy	when i enable it	00:58
doorknob60	u sure u opened with sudo?	00:58
Erealz	now I just have something to say about the new 7.10	00:58
Erealz	it bugy right	00:58
am_	ikonia: invalid device requested, error 12	00:58
ikonia	Erealz: no	00:58
ikonia	am_: have you read the grub guide ?	00:58
ikonia	!grub >am_	00:59
ipiz	Erealz new? It's 2-3 months old.	00:59
ikonia	am_: check the output from ubotu in a pm	00:59
Erealz	first thing iv notice no splashscreen	00:59
gnomy	ya door	00:59
gnomy	same error message	00:59
Erealz	also amd64bit user have no sound in flash	00:59
Jack_Sparrow	Erealz: This is a help channel... not a discussion room	01:00
gnomy	when i click the apply button	01:00
am_	!grub	01:00
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	01:00
ikonia	Erealz: well as there is no 64bit flash player thats going to be true of all 64bit distros	01:00
doorknob60	hmm idk	01:00
Slart	Clay_The_Arc: here's another one.. https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/squid.html	01:00
doorknob60	i dont think i ever got that error	01:00
Dr_willis	Erealz, first thing i do is DISABLE the splash stuff. :)	01:00
ipiz	Anyone knows How do I change the MSN Screen-name on FINCH?	01:00
Erealz	so they got rid of the splash screen at startup rightup	01:00
ikonia	Erealz: no	01:01
gnomy	door what does the eorr say ?	01:01
ushimitsudoki	My sound stopped working in 7.10 (amd64). The start-up noise plays at the logon screen, but I can't get any sound happening after that. I -think- it broke after installing the wrappers for flash, but I am not sure about that. Any pointers on how to troubleshoot this?	01:01
am_	ikonia: huh? i dont know what u mean	01:01
gnomy	i dont under stand it ?	01:01
brophat	does ubuntu have a link that explains the size of partitions to make such as / and /home	01:01
Erealz	weird	01:01
Erealz	I got no splash screen on my box	01:01
brophat	or does someone know the sizes and types	01:01
doorknob60	idk what it means what was it again?	01:01
Erealz	and my cuzin 64bit box	01:01
Slart	brophat: it depends on what you're going to do with the computer	01:01
Dr_willis	brophat, a lot depends on your needs.	01:01
gnomy	rb	01:01
Erealz	no splash ether	01:01
gnomy	brb	01:01
doorknob60	k	01:01
brophat	yeah just basic home user	01:01
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: and how much room you have to work with	01:01
Erealz	I would say that's a bug	01:01
brophat	I have 200 gios	01:01
brophat	200 gigs	01:01
gstory	Has anyone else had an issue with some videos being in b/w?	01:02
Dr_willis	brophat, id say 50 for / is plenty then. :)	01:02
Slart	brophat: I'd go with .. oh.. 10 GB for / and the rest for /home..	01:02
Erealz	yea I have had videos issues	01:02
Dr_willis	unless you use a lot of vmware images like i do.	01:02
Slart	brophat: as you see.. it differs a lot =)..	01:02
brophat	ok so just / and /home	01:02
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: make several ext3 partitions...	01:02
Clay_The_Arc	i have a 4gb hd total lol ;)	01:02
tom___	has anyone had any luck getting a geforce fx5700LE TV-out working? I've been at it for ages. I get cat it to work, but not with the nvidia drivers, which are required for mplayer...	01:02
gstory	I noticed it with a dvd first but I am watching a Frontline video online and have the same issue. Cranygeeks does not have this problem.	01:02
am_	ikonia: i dont understand, sorry	01:02
Erealz	sometimes when startup when I get into the loginscreen the video is dimmed or just looking discomboulated !?!?!	01:03
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: You never know when you may need another.. I have / root /home... /var and two spares plus swap	01:03
brophat	I have two hd so doen't that mean the two hd have to be on different partitions?	01:03
gstory	I get a white bar sometimes but that does not bug me.	01:03
Geekomancer1	Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone is having problems with Rythmbox getting podcasts?	01:03
Slart	brophat: for a simple home desktop machine I'd say one partition for / and one for /home.. for a serious machine I'd go with separate partitions for /var and /usr too	01:03
madman91	hey guys	01:03
Erealz	is their a ubuntu like bug report room?	01:03
gnomy	ha	01:03
brophat	ok thanks	01:03
Erealz	I think they should know I found sum bugs	01:03
madman91	I deleted a truecrypt volume.. but I am not regaining the lost space	01:04
gnomy	i have 2 screens again !!!	01:04
mats_	how to install programs that come in tar.gz format?	01:04
Slart	madman91: did you empty the trash?	01:04
gnomy	the second screen moves though	01:04
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: YEs I would suggest you not try to combine them raid them ..	01:04
wasme	mats_: is it a binary or source?	01:04
ipiz	mats_ you first need to extract it by using : tar -zxvf	01:04
madman91	Slart: I deleted.. and showed hidden folders.. deleted those as well.. its on a usb	01:04
brophat	if i have two hd, then how could i have just two partitions / and /home ?	01:04
damaltor	hello everybody. is there anybody here who can help me with scsi problems in ubuntu? i have got an scsi streamer and an scsi cd-rw drive. both work good in any live distri i tested (Damnsmall, knoppix,...) but none of them is found with an installed xubuntu system.	01:04
Erealz	is their a ubuntu-bug room	01:04
mats_	ipiz: Yeah, I extract with archive manager, but how to install afterwards?	01:05
mats_	wasme: How to check?	01:05
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: you still need a swap... what size are your partitions?	01:05
ipiz	mats_ Read the INSTALL or README that came with it.	01:05
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: drives	01:05
Pelo	brophat, waste of space, you only need 5-10 gig to run / on , and only 2x ram for /swap,	01:05
killyou	hi i have some problems with nvidia driver my kernel is "generic" this is normal?	01:05
Slart	madman91: how do you check how much space is left?	01:05
mats_	ipiz: Oh, right	01:05
ipiz	brophat / and /home on different HD? ..	01:05
asdfghj	-	01:05
Pelo	ipiz, that's not a problem	01:05
ipiz	sladen df -h	01:06
hunor	hia ll	01:06
brophat	ipiz that would make / 80 gigs	01:06
Slart	Erealz: I don't think so.. there's a bugtracker I think	01:06
madman91	Slart: df and nautilus	01:06
asdfghj	---	01:06
ipiz	maddler df -h for human readable unit.	01:06
Slart	madman91: hmm.. ls -l shows the usb-stick to be empty?	01:06
brophat	I guess I am not understanding hahaha	01:06
gnomy	what is V	01:06
Slart	killyou: yes.. generic is normal	01:06
killyou	!kernel	01:06
ubotu	The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages	01:06
gnomy	what is XRandR X	01:06
Slart	!smp \| killyou	01:06
ubotu	killyou: Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)	01:06
brophat	so if I have two hd then I could not have just / ??	01:07
killyou	sladen, i have to install another ?	01:07
Pelo	brophat, I have 2 hdd also , hdd 1 is 10 gig for windows , the rest for a download folder (70 gig ) , hdd2 10 gig / , 2 gig /swap and 60 gig for /home	01:07
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: how big is your hda or sda ?	01:07
ipiz	brophat give 15GB to root partition, 2GB to swap and the rest to /home.	01:07
madman91	Slart: no, there are 4 folders	01:07
madman91	Slart: let me cut .. h/o	01:07
Slart	madman91: pastebin	01:07
Erealz	I need to know how exactly to file a good bug report I have a launchpad account but I know how to go about getting the logs and stuff they require? I wana make sure I doing it right so they can fix these problems	01:07
madman91	Slart: I'm cutting the folders off	01:07
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: FYI you can trust Pelo to give good info...	01:07
madman91	then I'll try formatting Slart	01:07
Pelo	Erealz, the logs are in /var/log	01:08
Pelo	Jack_Sparrow, stop spreading lies about me	01:08
Erealz	errros and all that go their?	01:08
Jack_Sparrow	:)	01:08
Pelo	Erealz, they should	01:08
Erealz	lol	01:08
Slart	madman91: that really ought to work.. just deleting it should work too.. but it seems it didn	01:08
brophat	is it true that if you have two hd and want to use them both up for ubuntu, then you can't do it with just one / partition?	01:08
Yutlin	Can anyone tell me how to find the name of the module for my NIC so I can add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?	01:08
Erealz	k well is their a how to on correctly fileing a report?	01:08
Slart	brophat: nope. I have 5 drives and just one for /	01:08
Jack_Sparrow	brophat: true... other than lvm etc	01:08
Pelo	brophat, you can'gt run linux with just one partiton, you need a partition for swap , but yes you can have a partition over two hdd	01:09
Markyb86	no its not true, you only need one /	01:09
brophat	Slart that means that you / spans over two hd how is that possible?	01:09
am_	ikonia: i had vista preinstalled, then i installed ubuntu	01:09
doorknob60	Sysinfo for 'austin': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.60GHz at 2590 MHz (5185 bogomips), , RAM: 1316/1511MB, 140 proc's, 5.6h up	01:09
Pelo	!raid \| brophat	01:09
ubotu	brophat: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	01:09
Markyb86	the other hdds can have whatever you want	01:09
brophat	Pelo please, you know what I mean	01:09
Slart	brophat: oh.. I mean.. you can't put / on more than one drive.. you can still use the other drives for files and stuff..	01:09
synx_	ikonia: its not a panning thing... i think its detecting my lcd's out of order, because the left lcd is dfp-1 and the right is dfp-0, but they are in proper order because when i boot the left is primary	01:09
madman91	Slart: yeah, odd	01:09
Erealz	so no tutorial on fileing a bugreport right?	01:09
brophat	Slart so then what is your other hd?	01:09
Pelo	brophat, I do know and I gave you a links for raid and lvm	01:09
Slart	brophat: or.. wait.. that's wrong too.. bah.. this is hard..	01:10
Slart	brophat: I have one drive for my.. home ripped movies.. one for .. ahem.. home ripped music.. etc =)	01:10
Pelo	Erealz, check on the launchpad site there should be a howto somewhere in there	01:10
brophat	I want to know cause when I partition my second hd I have to call it something but I can't call it / because that is already taken up	01:10
Yutlin	Can anyone tell me how to find the name of the module for my NIC (Atheros L1 PCI-E Gigabit LAN controllers) so I can add it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?	01:10
killyou	to play games and video works well i have to use another kernel? "generic" don't install	01:11
Erealz	iight I guess ill do that	01:11
wasme	brophat: the easiest way to do this is to use your smallest drive for swap and /, and use all of your larger drive for /home	01:11
Slart	killyou: no.. generic kernel is the normal one.. you don't have to install another	01:11
Pelo	brophat, / and everthing else is only the mount point partitons don'T have names	01:11
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Erealz	oh just for the record I think 7.04 is more stable then 7.10	01:11
killyou	Slart, but i can install nvdia driver	01:11
killyou	don't work	01:11
Pelo	Erealz, I agree with you	01:11
brophat	wasme that would make my / and swap 80 gigs hahaha	01:12
Erealz	im pretty sad about that	01:12
Slart	killyou: that's because of something else.. it's not because you're using the generic kernel	01:12
Slart	!nvidia \| killyou	01:12
ubotu	killyou: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	01:12
wasme	brophat: yes ... you could do something more complex like create a 3rd partition on your smallest drive and combine it with the single partition on your largest drive using something like RAID, but that's kind of complex for someone new to linux/unix	01:12
Slart	killyou: look at that url there.. follow those instructions	01:12
doorknob60	imo its easiest to install nvidia drivers with envy	01:12
killyou	Slart, ok	01:12
Erealz	thnx pelo I knew it wasn't just me	01:12
Pelo	Erealz, think of 7.10 as a step toward 8.04, I personnaly wasn'T that crazy about edgy 6.10	01:12
Slart	!envy	01:12
ubotu	envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »	01:12
wasme	brophat: or you could create a third partition on the smallest drive and mount it to a subdirectory under /home and use it for, like, music or something. Depending on how much of whatever it is you have you want to put there.	01:13
brophat	wasme yeah it does sound complex, and i have been using linux for five years, not new to it	01:13
Erealz	yea in my opinion 7.10 is a beta release	01:13
ikonia	Erealz: then you are wrong	01:13
synx_	Is there any way to get the xorg.conf that ubuntu detected and installed with my system?	01:13
brophat	but I do understand what you have all said thanks	01:13
Erealz	I hate to say it like that but it almost as if they didn't do a better job at testing b4 the release	01:14
ikonia	Erealz: and the fact that you are unable to do the basics in ubuntu suggests your opinion is ill informed	01:14
Pelo	synx_, what is your video card ?	01:14
Slart	brophat: here's a good text about partitioning http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html	01:14
brophat	i will prob do what one of you said, that is make my 80 gig just / and swap, and my 120 gig /home	01:14
Erealz	lol do basics	01:14
brophat	thanks Slart	01:14
Erealz	if you knew me then you wouldn't call me basic user	01:14
Erealz	you dumnshit	01:14
Erealz	lol	01:14
Erealz	really	01:14
Erealz	n00b	01:14
Pelo	brophat, I tink yo are wasting hdd space with 80 gig for / and swap but have fun	01:15
Slart	brophat: that text is a bit... over ambitious sometimes.. but it does explain a lot of the thinking behind it	01:15
Pelo	Erealz, please donT, do that	01:15
ikonia	Erealz: that language is uncalled for	01:15
Dr_willis	i have also found 7.10 very well done.. once you remove compiz :)	01:15
ikonia	Erealz: and calling me a noob is ill informed also	01:15
brophat	Pelo what are my options? just the raid solution?	01:15
am_	ikonia: im using GAG - Graphical Boot Manager	01:15
SpookyET	Is there a LVM solution for Ubuntu? I bit the bullet and installed Fedora 8, and I like some things.	01:15
am_	ikonia: http://gag.sourceforge.net/	01:15
Slart	!lvm \| SpookyET	01:16
ubotu	SpookyET: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO	01:16
ikonia	am_: ubuntu does not support gag	01:16
Slart	SpookyET: yes, it's available for ubuntu	01:16
wasme	brophat: As I said, you could create a third parition and put it in a subdirectory under /home for stuff. Or you could just create a syslink from a directory in / to somewhere under /home	01:16
LinuxEzGer8	Hello ago	01:16
am_	ikonia: guess that would explain it lol	01:16
brophat	wasme yeah ok	01:16
am_	ikonia: any idea how to undo it?	01:16
LinuxEzGer8	I was on here earlier as Gre2 and was having video problems. I updated to 7.10 and it seems I have my video drivers installed, but now I've hit another wall	01:16
ikonia	am_: no	01:16
Pelo	brophat, presonnaly, I would make a seperate partition on your 80 gig hdd for /home and then make your 120 gig hdd one partiton for other stuff, you can set the mount point for that partiton in your /home folder if you want, use that part for game or video or downloads or what ever you want	01:17
madman91	Error: Unable to open /dev/mapper/truecrypt0 - unrecognised disk label.	01:17
Manad	hi	01:17
am_	ikonia: it wasnt working anyway, but now i cant boot into vista	01:17
doorknob60	does anyone here no why java in ubuntu is way slower than it is in windows? its kinda annoying cuz sometimes it makes my firefox freeze	01:17
[chr0n0s]	Jack_Sparrow, thanks a lot.. i can boot into ubuntu now :)	01:17
ikonia	am_: I can't support gag	01:17
gino	hi people i need help for kernel configuration	01:17
Manad	is there a tool like Everest for Ubuntu, that will let me know my motherboard brand/model?	01:17
LinuxEzGer8	1) How do I install my 3d drivers (if they aren't already) and 2) I have no sound whatsoever.	01:17
gino	someone to helpme plis	01:17
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Jack_Sparrow	Did I help you with something? HOw unlike me.	01:17
Pelo	doorknob60, cause java sucks in general	01:17
brophat	Pelo good idea	01:17
Kl4m	!ask	01:17
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	01:17
doorknob60	well i play runescape so i need it alot lol	01:17
FluxD	!ati \| LinuxEzGer8	01:17
ubotu	LinuxEzGer8: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	01:17
Pelo	Jack_Sparrow, how dare you , you were warned , no more helping ppl	01:17
amitprakash	Jack_Sparrow, yeah :) with the uuids ... facing another array of problems now :D	01:17
brophat	yeah I will call it something like pirate music hahah	01:17
am_	ikonia: i just mean to get my normal booter back working	01:17
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: Sorry it wont happen again.. se everyone tomorrow..	01:18
ikonia	am_: I can't support gag, I don't know how it works, so I don't know how to remove/undo it safley	01:18
brophat	Pelo I will call it My Documents	01:18
LinuxEzGer8	Flux, I think I have them installed, but I am not sure if the 3D are. Is there a way I can check (such like Windows where I can go to a profile of some sort)?	01:18
am_	ikonia: oh ok, ill try to figure it out	01:18
gino	i compiled the kernel and make a kernel package with make-kpkg and now have a deb with 202mg huge!!!	01:19
gino	hlep me please	01:19
ikonia	gino: help with what ?	01:19
LinuxEzGer8	I'm very leary of just going for it and hoping for the best. I'm on hour 15 of trying to get Linux up and running because I kept just trying stuff.	01:19
gino	is to bid the deb	01:19
brophat	yeah I understand now	01:19
ikonia	gino: that's how you've built your kernel	01:19
Pelo	gino, not many ppl in this channel have compiled their own kernel, maybe you can get help on this in #debian or in ##linux	01:19
ikonia	gino: custom kernels are a specific to users needs, we can't support your kernel	01:20
smilodon	I want to have fun on the internet... or die trying!	01:20
Pelo	brophat, you do understand how mountpoints work right ?	01:20
gino	ok	01:20
gino	thanx	01:20
gino	where i go??!	01:20
Pelo	gino, just type /join ##linux or /join #debian	01:20
gino	thanx	01:20
brophat	Pelo yes	01:20
Pelo	brophat, ok , just checking	01:21
brophat	ok haha	01:21
simplechat	hey, is slashdot down?	01:21
LinuxEzGer8	Linux Geniuses: Is there a way I can see if my Nvidia 3d drivers are installed? I know the regular drivers are (through Restricted Drivers Management), but I can't tell if the 3d ones are	01:21
Pelo	when is slashdot ever not down ?	01:21
brophat	Pelo you know what it is is that this stuff comes up so infrequent that it is hard to remember stuff that I once undertood like a year ago	01:21
ikonia	LinuxEzGer8: the restricted drivers manager ARE the 3d drivers	01:21
Pelo	LinuxEzGer8, there are no linux geniueses in here, only users like you	01:22
flamsmark	hey, i just tried a fresh install and grub is giving me error 15 at boot, any idea what i'm going wrong?	01:22
brophat	well I am off to install 7.10 thanks for that help	01:22
Xacarith	On my laptop, when I installed linux, I didn't have an internet connection handy. Now synaptic is not able to connect to server....	01:22
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: try running "glxgears"	01:22
Pelo	brophat, it's also difficult to evaluate the level of expertise of the ppl asking question, and even then , ppl are experts on some stuff and totaly useless with other things	01:22
ipiz	Xacarith tried apt-get update?	01:23
brophat	Pelo I totally understand	01:23
smilodon	I want to have fun on the internet... or die trying!	01:23
* Pelo is useless with permissions and rc levels , among other things		01:23
ikonia	smilodon: you've said that 3 times now	01:23
ikonia	smilodon: please stop, this is a support channel for support requests, not idle statments	01:23
am_	ikonia: how do i install GRUB in the 'MBR'	01:23
Pelo	smilodon, take your laptop to a busy highway	01:23
amitprakash	oki.. i have lost my root password and i have no other users on the system.. is there a way to reset it	01:23
ikonia	!grub \| am_	01:23
brophat	Pelo i have pockets of knowledge	01:23
ubotu	am_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	01:23
NullName	Hey my wireless usb adaptor doesn't support WEP or WAP with linux. I configured the router to only allow my mac address, and I wrote a script that checks constantly for new ip address's connected to the network. Am I somewhat safe? I'm routing the majority of my network apps through a socks 5 proxy server using ssh. ANy ideas on how I could secure myself?	01:23
ikonia	am_: read that link	01:23
am_	ikonia: ok	01:23
Geekomancer1	Is anyone having trouble getting full podcast downloads with Rythmbox?	01:23
Pelo	amitprakash, your root password is the same you use to log in with as a users	01:24
Slart	amitprakash: you lost your root password? or your user password?	01:24
amitprakash	Slart, root	01:24
Durtro	Hello	01:24
amitprakash	Pelo, i am not using a user login	01:24
Slart	amitprakash: surely you're not running as root?	01:24
ipiz	amitprakash root doesn't have a password, it uses the same passsword as your user.	01:24
Slart	!root	01:25
ubotu	Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	01:25
amitprakash	Slart, yes i am :(	01:25
ricanelite	how can i get vlc to be used in Firefox?	01:25
Durtro	ok	01:25
Pelo	amitprakash, there is no actual root in ubuntu , your user password that you use with sudo is what you hve	01:25
ipiz	amitprakash root doesn't have a password, it uses the same passsword as your user.	01:25
amitprakash	ipiz, i set it using udo passwd root and then i deleted the user	01:25
Synx_hm	Any twinview experts in here?	01:25
ipiz	ricanelite install the vlc-firefox-plugin	01:25
flamsmark	any chance of some help with getting a grub error 15?	01:25
ikonia	amitprakash: that was pretty silly	01:25
Pelo	ricanelite, remove totem-mozilla and mozilla-mplayer	01:25
doorknob60	i use twinview...might be able to help	01:25
Pelo	flamsmark, hold on	01:25
amitprakash	ikonia, i know :(	01:25
ricanelite	is vlc better to have?	01:25
Xacarith	e: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavalible)	01:25
ipiz	amitprakash that was a dumb move.	01:25
Xacarith	E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?	01:25
Slart	amitprakash: well.. let's just look past the whole "running stuff as root is bad"-issue.. you're supposed to be able to reset it	01:25
flamsmark	pelo, yes sir	01:25
amitprakash	ikonia, more like i have lost access to both the users and the root	01:26
ipiz	Xacarith Do you have another synaptic running or perhaps update manager running?	01:26
ikonia	amitprakash: yes, I can understnad that	01:26
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: What does glxgears do?	01:26
Slart	amitprakash: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3609.html	01:26
Pelo	flamsmark, do you get as far as the menu ?	01:26
flamsmark	nope	01:26
ricanelite	is vlc better to have on firefox?	01:26
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: shows you some pretty cogwheels.. and prints out a fps-numer	01:26
LinuxEzGer8	ah	01:26
LinuxEzGer8	cool	01:26
ipiz	ricanelite What's the point?	01:26
LinuxEzGer8	command?	01:26
Pelo	flamsmark, did you mess areound with the boot order of your hdds ?	01:26
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: ehh.. it's "glxgears"	01:27
ipiz	ricanelite What's the point? .. What is it, that your trying to achieve?	01:27
ricanelite	well to play videos and streaming audio on the sites	01:27
ladynikon	hey..	01:27
amitprakash	ikonia, Slart : i kinda like copied my / partition to another one and booted from that so all user permissions are messed up and ownedships have changed	01:27
ikonia	amitprakash: re-install	01:27
flamsmark	pelo, mess around?	01:27
amitprakash	ikonia, i copied so as to avoid a reinstall :)	01:27
Pelo	flamsmark, change the boot order of your hdds	01:27
Slart	amitprakash: ikonia speaks the harsh truth here.. I'd reinstall too	01:27
Xacarith	Get the same on the lap top and not that I know of	01:27
ikonia	amitprakash: re-install, your system is a mess	01:27
flamsmark	pelo, since when?	01:27
ladynikon	will this work to as a launcher in ubuntu? "export CEDEGA_PATH=/home/ladynikon/.cedega2 && $CEDEGA_PATH/.updater/cedegaUpdateChecker -GAME EveOnline-linux"	01:27
Pelo	flamsmark, did you delete the /boot/grub/menu.lst file ?	01:27
Pelo	flamsmark, since the last time you booted properly	01:28
flamsmark	pelo, this is just after an install	01:28
amitprakash	Slart, well i have a lot of packages on it.. and i cant reallydownload them all again	01:28
killyou	aff omg i don't what i do i can run any kind of video xvid dvid dvd	01:28
Pelo	flamsmark, a fresh install ?	01:28
ipiz	amitprakash _again_ that was a dumb move.	01:28
amitprakash	more like i dont know what all i have on the system	01:28
flamsmark	pelo, absotively	01:28
hallow	any site that can help me installing ubuntu on a eeepc?	01:28
ikonia	amitprakash: you really should re-nstall and download them again, your system is a mess	01:28
LinuxEzGer8	Is 2200 fps good?	01:28
doorknob60	ya	01:28
amitprakash	ipiz, well it all began with a bad partiion	01:28
theZoMBiE	how can i change those windows.. in the 3d effect mode... when i drag one program to another i can see my other screens but how do i switch between them	01:28
rimtech	I got guitar hero III to run under wine, but the controller doesn't work... it's USB based and works fine under windows.... am I missing something?	01:28
amitprakash	ikonia, no other way around it?	01:28
Slart	amitprakash: well.. then get commercial help.. or buy lots of pizza for your local linux-geek =)	01:29
ikonia	rimtech: join #winehq, solid support in there	01:29
Xacarith	ipiz None should be	01:29
doorknob60	wine doesnt really like usb	01:29
ikonia	amitprakash: not without a lot of effort	01:29
Pelo	flamsmark ,, boot the live cd , mount the hdd with ubuntu on i and browse to /boot/grub/ see if you find a file called menu.lst	01:29
theZoMBiE	panels or whatever..	01:29
LinuxEzGer8	Slart, how long do I let the gears turn? Is there anything else they do?	01:29
fungos	Im having probelm with hitachi scsi hdd on boot... it hangs when trying to prepare sda from sg0 thing	01:29
amitprakash	ikonia, can u point me to something i can refer to and make that effort?	01:29
flamsmark	pelo, okay then, brb	01:29
ikonia	amitprakash: not really, its just a knowledge experience thing	01:29
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: nope.. nothing more.. just that pretty image.. .. you got 2000 fps?.. that's a bit low I think.. is it the same if you make the window bigger?	01:30
kbrooks	NullName, hello	01:30
NullName	hey kbrooks	01:30
theZoMBiE	actually what im asking is how can i switch between workspaces using my keyboard? is there any shortcut?	01:30
flamsmark	thezombie ctrl+alt+arrows	01:30
LinuxEzGer8	I made the window very large and it dropped down to 1000 fps	01:30
Emmy	hey !	01:31
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: what kind of graphics card do you have?	01:31
LinuxEzGer8	I'm running GeForce 8400GS 512MB	01:31
kbrooks	NullName, well, you are not safe	01:31
NullName	kbrooks: what can I do?	01:31
Emmy	r u real peole or computers?	01:31
ikonia	Emmy: real	01:31
flamsmark	emmy, neither	01:31
fungos	it keeps crashing at this line: sd 4:0:0:0 Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0	01:31
Pelo	Emmy, we are real ppl with computers	01:31
NullName	I must use linux..and this wireless adaptor cost me 80 bucks..it's really cool	01:31
LinuxEzGer8	I am a real computer with peoples	01:31
kbrooks	NullName, i don't mean with the encryption. the questionable way that you are attempting to secure your network...	01:32
Emmy	r u humans?	01:32
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: hmm.. what does "glxgears -info \| grep GL_VERSION" tell you?	01:32
flamsmark	i'm not real, but i know some nice computers	01:32
flamsmark	some of us are	01:32
ikonia	Emmy: yes, this is a support channel for the ubuntu operating system, do you have a question	01:32
Emmy	is anyone a human?	01:32
kbrooks	NullName, or wait - is this a network?	01:32
Pelo	Emmy, this is a support channel , if you have an ubuntu related question to ask please ask it , if not, please stop messing about	01:32
Fezzler	How do I create a GNOME icon for a program normally run from Terminal, ircssi specifically?	01:32
ikonia	Emmy: you've had that answered. Do you ahve an ubuntu question	01:32
flamsmark	yes, we use linux for human beings	01:32
ikonia	flamsmark: stop feedinghim	01:32
Pelo	flamsmark, donT' feed the troll	01:33
Emmy	u r just robot's then. right?	01:33
flamsmark	:( sorry	01:33
Pelo	!ops \| Emmy	01:33
ubotu	Emmy: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!	01:33
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Nothing	01:33
kbrooks	NullName, ok, i missed what you said. um, due to mac addresses, no you are not safe	01:33
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: It didn't do anything when I typed it in the terminal	01:33
fungos	boot keeps crashing at this line: sd 4:0:0:0 Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0	01:33
kbrooks	NullName, i'll explain...	01:33
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: No gears or anything	01:33
Emmy	r u guys hot?	01:33
ovid	anyone not helping someone that would like to?	01:33
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: you sure you typed it in correctly? cut and paste if you can	01:33
MikeH	can someone please tell me what causes screen output to go black after 15-20 minutes? I've tried changing screensaver settings to no avail?	01:33
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Pelo	ovid, just ask a question and hpe for the best	01:34
MikeH	*20 minutes of no mouse/keyboard input	01:34
LinuxEzGer8	sudo glxgears - info \| grep GL_VERSION	01:34
Pelo	MikeH, suspend mode ?	01:34
ovid	yea, i feel like im using by just showing up and spewing questions..but ok ;)	01:34
ovid	ubuntu install locks up 3/4 during load, ive tried safe graphics, and checked the cd...when it loads it says "cannot allocate resource 0 of 000:00:000" or something	01:34
kbrooks	NullName, you say routed the majority of your apps thru ssh, but did you check to make sure DNS does not leak?	01:34
haymaker	can anyone give me an idea of what to look at to make a usb drive bootable and be able to boot and install Ubuntu from it? I have a great laptop with no cd drive...	01:34
amitprakash	Slart, ikonia is it possible to find out what all do i have installed on this screwed up system?	01:34
NullName	kbrooks: Its just me and my roomate on the network	01:34
MikeH	Pelo, No, it's basically a blank screensaver	01:34
Pelo	MikeH, power saving feature	01:34
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: where did you get sudo from? drop that	01:34
MikeH	Pelo, But adjusting screensaver settings	01:34
NullName	kbrooks: no ports are open	01:34
MikeH	Pelo, If it is, I can't find it	01:34
LinuxEzGer8	oh, oops. Thought i had to do that before all commands	01:35
NullName	kbrooks: how do I check to see if my DNS is leaking?	01:35
Pelo	MikeH, check the power savingmanagement stuff in the prefs menu	01:35
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Same result. Nothing.	01:35
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Slart	LinuxEzGer8: nope.. just stuff that has to be run as root.. things that change computer configuration and such	01:35
MikeH	Pelo, set to Never by default.	01:35
kbrooks	NullName, an attacker can use your wireless network fast enough to skirt your mechanism and monitor what you are sending that is not encrypted	01:35
MikeH	But it's not putting the screen into power save mode anyway Pelo :o	01:36
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: ahh.. no space between - and info.. glxgears -info \| grep GL_VERSION	01:36
Fezzler	Is it possible to create a GNOME icon to launch a program normally run from the Terminal (ircssi)?	01:36
kbrooks	NullName, other than DNS, the MAC addresses are not encrypted. so i can fake your MAC address from the monitor	01:36
wasme	Fezzler: yes	01:36
Pelo	MikeH, bios settings, some have power saving options to turn off monitor signal	01:37
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Wheels are spinning and it says "GL_VERSION = 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19"	01:37
wasme	Fezzler: although I haven't done it for a while ... let me test it here ...	01:37
kbrooks	NullName, i am not saying you can solve that with encrypting your MAC address.	01:37
Fezzler	wasme: Okay, you got me. How?	01:37
flamsmark	pelo, having trouble using the rescue mode, going to make a livecd	01:37
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: ok.. then you're using the binary driver.. and you've got 3d acceleration	01:37
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Is that good?	01:37
MikeH	Pelo, Monitor signal isn't being turned off.	01:37
Pelo	MikeH, then I don'T know	01:38
ovid	will ubuntu detect my raid from the install cd?	01:38
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Forgive my ignorance. Day two of my Linux adventure.	01:38
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: well.. I would say so, yes	01:38
wasme	Fezzler: where are you trying to add it? to the panel?	01:38
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: What would you attribute to the slow fps? I have 2GB ram on a 5.2GHz dual	01:38
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: nothing to forgive..we've all been new to this... 3d acceleration is what makes games and such go faster and look nicer	01:38
kbrooks	NullName, there are settings for each app that you might check to make sure its set to socks5 and that from a scan of your own computer, your app is not resolving externally	01:38
amitprakash	LinuxEzGer8, 5.2G?	01:39
Veljko	hi gyz! tryin' to install ubuntu 7.1, but install doesn't find my partitions... One drive, 5 partition setup, 3 ntfs, 1 ext3, 1 swap. All on WD 200gb. bote systems working, Windows bit unstable lately, linux bit slow lately. Any software that would find/solve problem? yeah... some errors found on partition table. THANX	01:39
kbrooks	NullName, i mean resolving DNS externally	01:39
Fezzler	wasme: I like the clean look of using just the Applications menu, but I could live with Desktop	01:39
cyrano	hi. i just installed gutsy 7.10 but nm-applet isnt showing wireless networks options. still i am connected to the internet	01:39
LinuxEzGer8	2x2.8GHz. Was told it runs about 5.2Ghz	01:39
cyrano	why?	01:39
cyrano	i need to choose another network than the one i am on	01:39
kbrooks	NullName, that is what i mean by a DNS leak	01:39
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: that little program (glxgears) isn't a good program to see if your computer is fast or slow.. it doesn't really measure real world performance.. I get about 10000 fps with a NVIDIA 8800 GTX..	01:39
NullName	kbrooks: what do you mean "app is not resolving"??	01:40
ovid	will ubuntu detect my raid from the install cd?	01:40
kbrooks	NullName, i just corrected what i said	01:40
Pelo	ovid, possibly but no garrantie	01:40
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Thanks for your help. I'm hoping you can help get my sound working too. :D	01:40
Pelo	ovid, actualy no , you need to use the alt install cd and take a few extra steps	01:40
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: let's give it a try.. what kind of soundcard do you have?	01:40
Pelo	!raid \| ovid	01:40
ubotu	ovid: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	01:40
foso	hey all, i have the tar.gz for avant window navigator but dont know what to do now, im a noob, can you help?	01:40
kbrooks	NullName, resolve means to turn a domain name into an IP address	01:40
kbrooks	NullName, via DNS	01:41
IndyGunFreak	foso: well, 1... you shouldn't need to compile it, i'm pretty sure its in the repositories.	01:41
NullName	kbrooks: I saw, sorry..but I thought that everything that I'm doing is through ssh which uses RSA encryption...I even recreate my keys with PGP	01:41
ikonia	guys - this isn't a secuirty channel	01:41
doorknob60	foso, extract the tar.gz and read the readme file in it	01:41
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Creative Sound Blaster XFi	01:41
ikonia	any chance you can take it to offtopic?	01:41
doorknob60	i dont think its in reps	01:41
cyrano	after a fresh gutsy install nm-applet will not show a list of wireless connections even though its in fact connected to one	01:41
kbrooks	!offtopic	01:41
ubotu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	01:41
cyrano	how can i solve this	01:41
stoneCold_	hi all, I just tried to install ubuntu 7.10 and the install hang at "Loading hardware drivers..." after removing "quiet splash" from the boot options, the following lines appear before the install hangs ... http://rafb.net/p/LX6eNn23.html ... anyone an idea?	01:41
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: hmm.. I'm not sure if that soundcard is supported under linux..	01:41
r3n0c	anybody have experience with thinkfinger? to get fingerprint scanners to work	01:41
ovid	ubotu: thanks.... even if you are a bot	01:41
kbrooks	NullName, #ubuntu-offtopic please	01:41
NullName	k	01:42
Slart	!botsnack	01:42
ubotu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	01:42
wasme	Fezzler: ok	01:42
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: I'm pretty sure there is a beta driver on the Creative Website. I saw it earlier today but didn't know what to do with it. I'm scared to try and install it.	01:42
Fezzler	wasme: Stumped?	01:42
Fezzler	Hurray	01:42
wasme	Fezzler: right click on the desktop	01:42
wasme	Fezzler: select 'create launcher'	01:42
foso	doorknob60 it doesnt say how to install	01:42
theZoMBiE	how can i see my ubuntu in like a cube.. when switching from one workspace to another?	01:42
Fezzler	ok	01:42
andrea	ciaoooooooooo	01:42
amitprakash	Slart, yay.. recoving linux stepwise :D	01:42
r3n0c	anybody? ever setup a fingerprint scanner	01:43
Pelo	theZoMBiE, you need to enable it in compiz, ask in #compiz-fusion	01:43
r3n0c	i'm hav'n some problems with it	01:43
wasme	Fezzler: fill in the name and comment with whatever you want ... for command type in "gnome-terminal -e <command you want here>"	01:43
indiepunc	compiz is so cool	01:43
flamsmark	r3n0c, nope, but i'll be impressed if you	01:43
doorknob60	foso: open a terminal and go to the folder that it exctracted and type ./configure	01:43
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: it doesn't look very good http://www.google.com/search?q=creative+x-fi+ubuntu	01:43
flamsmark	r3n0c *you do	01:43
r3n0c	flamsmark, lol, well it works.... but there is a problem with startx after i load it	01:43
Slart	amitprakash: you're getting it fixed? nice	01:44
cyrano	an yone can help me with network manager? it doesnt display wireless networks	01:44
Veljko	HI,all... Installer of ubuntu doesn't find my partitions... software to check/repair the problem? thanks	01:44
amitprakash	^	01:44
amitprakash	^^	01:44
flamsmark	pelo, nope, there's no menu.lst	01:44
ikonia	flamsmark: that is what errror 15 is complaining about	01:44
flamsmark	r3n0c, on what computer	01:44
Pelo	flamsmark, you checked in the mounted hdd , not in the filetree from the live cd right ?	01:44
wasme	cyrano: is your wifi card working?	01:44
foso	doorknob60 sorry im a noob, could you give me more in depth instructions? thanks	01:44
flamsmark	ikonia, anyway to repair it?	01:44
ari_stress	speaking of grub, is menu.lst and grub.conf the same thing?	01:44
cyrano	wasme:yes	01:44
r3n0c	flamsmark, ubuntu 7.10, toshiba a200	01:44
ikonia	flamsmark: create a menu.list	01:44
flamsmark	pelo i ebieve so	01:44
Slart	ari_stress: no	01:44
ikonia	menu.lst	01:45
Fezzler	wasme: "There was an error in creating the child process for this terminal" error	01:45
cyrano	i am in fact connected to a wireless network	01:45
wasme	cyrano: In ubuntu?	01:45
doorknob60	foso i messaged u in irc can u see it?	01:45
flamsmark	pelo, there's a /boot/grub, but it doesn't contain menu.lst	01:45
cyrano	yes	01:45
eboyjr	How do I make symbolic links in Ubuntu? I am trying to do what this page is doing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195039	01:45
cyrano	but it will not display any	01:45
wasme	Fezzler: what did you put in as the command?	01:45
Slart	eboyjr: ln -s I think	01:45
flamsmark	r3n0c, does that have an oss driver for the reader?	01:45
foso	doorknob60 yes	01:45
ovid	ubuntu install: "cannot allocate resource 0 of 000:00:000" or something and the install locks up 3/4 through install load bar	01:45
freenet	hi	01:45
doorknob60	k good ill tell u in there	01:45
flamsmark	iknoia, and what do i put in it?	01:45
ovid	if someone can help! :D	01:45
eric	ln -s	01:45
Pelo	flamsmark, grub did not get installed properly, I can't realy tell you how to make one from scratch, and I don'T know how you would go about generating one automaticaly, I suggest you clean install ubuntu again , seeif that helps	01:45
bobhugga	i just bought a new dual core amd x2. it will be in on wednesday. my question is right now i have an amd athlon xp and i just did a new fresh install of gutsy. will i be able to simply plug the harddrive into the new board and have it work, or should i just reinstall it?	01:45
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: I think I found something. Mind checking it out and giving me your insight?	01:45
cyrano	wasme: and right click on nm-applet does not show enable wireless option	01:45
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: sure	01:45
ikonia	!grub > fflamsmark	01:45
Pelo	flamsmark, you did say it was a fresh install right ?	01:46
ikonia	!grub > flamsmark	01:46
sethk	ovid, that's a PCI bus designation.	01:46
LinuxEzGer8	http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi	01:46
ikonia	flamsmark: what happened to that file from the install ?	01:46
cyrano	wasme: i need to change to a faster network...	01:46
flamsmark	iknoia, i don't know	01:46
amitprakash	Slart, lol some 20 errors thrown on login	01:46
flamsmark	it only had about ten seconds to get lost	01:46
ovid	sethk is that what's mussing with the install? would the text only install help?	01:46
wasme	cyrano: ifconfig shows the wireless device?	01:46
LinuxEzGer8	A guy on the forum you linked said he used this and it detected his sound card (exact same one as mine) as a SoundBlaster 7.1 or something, but it works fine	01:46
Fezzler	wasme: Got it! Cool! Now, can I change the icon?	01:46
eboyjr	Thank you, Slart	01:46
ikonia	flamsmark: do you have /boot on a seperate partition	01:46
extrexm_	net	01:46
flamsmark	iknoia, isn't the syntax !grub \| somebody ?	01:46
flamsmark	ikonia, yes i do	01:47
ikonia	flamsmark: no	01:47
ikonia	flamsmark: ahhhh	01:47
r3n0c	flamsmark, well it appears to load correctly from tty mode when i login, but when i type startx, or gdm, it doesn't load to X	01:47
wasme	Fezzler: right click and select 'Properties' ... then click on the icon box thingy	01:47
ikonia	flamsmark: your menu.lst should be on your /boot partition	01:47
ikonia	flamsmark: ahh you able to verify that	01:47
flamsmark	i'm looking on my /boot partiton	01:47
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: I would not use that.. not unless you find someone that does use it and thinks it's good	01:47
cyrano	wasme: i think so	01:48
hallo	hi,i have ext3 on /dev/hdb8,if i enter fixmbr in windows recovery console,will it recover widows's mbr ,boot windows automatically?	01:48
Fezzler	wasme: Cool. Is there a path to standard icons provided by GNOME or Ubuntu?	01:48
cyrano	wasme: it shows eth0 and eth1...	01:48
doorknob60	foso u still there?	01:48
Fyda	Fezzler: /usr/share/pixmaps/	01:48
flamsmark	ikonia there's nothing in the /boot of my / partition, and there's plenty (but no /boot/grub/menu.lst) in my /boot partition	01:48
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: there will probably be drivers available sooner or later... or write nasty letters to creative and tell them you'll never touch another creative product if they don't fix this =)	01:48
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overlord	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609608 <- This is my problem. Need help.	01:49
bjbdrgn	slight problem, I accidentally removed some packages via synaptic.. now I can't seem to install them with either synaptic,adept,apt-get, or aptitude	01:49
flamsmark	and i've tried fresh-installing a few times	01:49
LinuxEzGer8	They said in April that they would be available Q3 of this year. I swear to Santa Claus I saw one earlier today	01:49
Nostahl	hi all	01:49
hallo	hi,i have ext3 on /dev/hdb8,if i enter fixmbr in windows recovery console,will it recover widows's mbr ,boot windows automatically?	01:49
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Nostahl	i have just started ubuntu live cd	01:49
Nostahl	booted up	01:49
wasme	cyrano: hmmm, sorry, I don't really know what the problem is then.	01:50
Nostahl	typed lsusb and it recognizes my netgear in that	01:50
foso	doorknob 60	01:50
Nostahl	how do i set it up	01:50
Pelo	!enter \| Nostahl	01:50
ubotu	Nostahl: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	01:50
bjbdrgn	anyone know if totally removing packages makes it very difficult to restore them?	01:50
Nostahl	so i can connect wirelessly	01:50
flamsmark	ikonia, isn't there a grub config app of some sort somewhere about?	01:50
foso	doorknob60 yeah, havent got anything from you since ' did you extract'	01:50
Pelo	!wifi \| Nostahl	01:50
ubotu	Nostahl: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:50
hallo	hi,i have ext3 on /dev/hdb8,if i enter fixmbr in windows recovery console,will it recover widows's mbr ,boot windows automatically?	01:50
bjbdrgn	right nwo all that matches beryl is libberyldecoration0 and libberylsettings0	01:50
bjbdrgn	*now	01:50
hallo	no one knows?	01:50
doorknob60	ok, but did you extract it to desktop?	01:50
r3n0c	anybody know a good gps device/ gps drivign software that i could get?	01:50
doorknob60	or somewhere else?	01:50
ovid	ubuntu install: "cannot allocate resource 0 of 000:00:000" or something and the install locks up 3/4 through install load bar <- what can i do to fix? MUST LOSE WINDOWS! :D	01:51
foso	doorknob60 yeah	01:51
doorknob60	ok	01:51
Pelo	hallo, it should, but you won't be able to boot ubuntu anymore, why not just change the default os to boot in the grub menu	01:51
cyrano	wasme: fixed it	01:51
LinuxEzGer8	craptastic	01:51
wasme	cyrano: mind if I ask what you did?	01:51
LinuxEzGer8	Sorry, no Creative updates are available for the selected query.	01:51
doorknob60	so open a terminal by clicking applications->accesories->terminal	01:51
cyrano	wasme: ive never had to enable roaming mode manually before... i think	01:51
Fezzler	wasme: Thanks. I have a few apps I was trying to write undev for	01:51
foso	ok	01:51
overlord	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609608 <- This is my problem. Need help.	01:51
flamsmark	anyone know if there's an app to configure grub?	01:52
Fyda	bjbdrgn: If you no longer have the repo enabled, or those packages no longer exist on the repo, then that may happen.	01:52
Pelo	g'night folks	01:52
wease\|	hello people	01:52
hallo	i will download a grub to boot ubuntu instead	01:52
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: What version of Linux is Ubuntu and what's the worst that could happen if I tried the one the other guy linked?	01:52
cyrano	wasme: manual configuration - wireless properties - and then enable roaming mode	01:52
doorknob60	now type cd ~/Desktop/ (whatever the folder on your desktop is called)	01:52
Pelo	!fixgrub \| flamsmark	01:52
ubotu	flamsmark: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	01:52
bjbdrgn	Fyda: oh. perhaps that's why it's bugged out ever since i upgraded to gutsy	01:52
wasme	cyrano: ah, ok. Good to know if the issue ever comes up again. Thanks.	01:52
Fezzler	wasme: so Ubuntu recognizes them when plugged in. But it was too hard. I'll just launch with GNOME Icon	01:52
Fyda	bjbdrgn: In any case, are you trying to install Beryl? And if so, is there a reason you want to use it instead of Compiz (which ships with Gutsy)?	01:52
Pelo	flamsmark, or ask in #grub but be vary patient	01:52
Pelo	g'night folks	01:52
Fezzler	wasme: after the command do you think I can pass variables?	01:53
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: you can see your version by running uname -a.. worst case.. you'll have to reinstall ubuntu.. but that's a very bad case	01:53
bjbdrgn	Fyda: i was using beryl, thought that was the more well-known fork	01:53
Fyda	bjbdrgn: Ahh, remember that the dist-upgrader in Ubuntu will disable all your 3rd party repos.	01:53
hallo	so what does this error mean: grub load error:15	01:53
foso	ok	01:53
doorknob60	now type ./configure	01:53
wasme	Fezzler: you could write a shell script to do something like that. I'm not the best person to ask about shell scripting.	01:53
Fyda	bjbdrgn: Well, I don't know if you've already heard, but Beryl's discontinued and all the work is going into Compiz and Compiz Fusion. Check in at #compiz-fusion if you have any more questions on this. :)	01:53
flamsmark	hmn	01:53
bjbdrgn	Fyda: I don't have third party ones, but I do have all the restricted/universe/multiverse	01:53
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: I found it!!	01:53
juano__	hello all	01:53
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html	01:53
madman91	hey guys	01:54
overlord	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609608 <- That's my problem. Kindly help.	01:54
ovid	hallo: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml i dont know if that helps =/	01:54
madman91	is there a good universal linux audio converter? cli or gui whatever	01:54
Slart	hallo: try googling for just that "grub load error: 15"	01:54
hallo	thank you,i will see that	01:54
Fezzler	wasme: Can I now get the icon off desktop and into Applications/Internet?	01:54
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foso	doorknob60 it says it cant find the python headers	01:54
juano__	madman91: audacious has a filewriter output plugin that converts almost any format... i recommend	01:54
bjbdrgn	Fyda: hopefully compiz has the handy fullscreen thing	01:54
doorknob60	hmm.....	01:54
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: that's the site I found earlier. Problem I see is that I have the Xtreme Audio Xfi which does not appear to on that list.	01:55
r3n0c	anybody get their webcam to work?	01:55
r3n0c	ubuntu 7.10, toshiba a200	01:55
doorknob60	it has dependencies but idk what the packages are, i dloaded avant window manager last week might still have readme	01:55
madman91	are there any audio-converter specific program you know of juano__ ?	01:55
juano__	madman91: or you have "soundconverter" but i don't think it supports much formats	01:55
wasme	Fezzler: you need a menu editor ...	01:55
bjbdrgn	Fyda: alt-enter and most apps would toggle (was a setting in beryl's config)	01:55
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Any thoughts?	01:55
juano__	madman91: soundconverter , try that one	01:55
brophat	how big should I make /	01:55
wasme	Fezzler: I think ther emight be one installed by default ... hmmm looks for it	01:56
Fyda	Fezzler: Right-click on the main menu icon and go to Edit Menu... and see if you can add a custom launcher that way.	01:56
r3n0c	anybody get their webcam to work? i tried installing easycam but it didn't work	01:56
Fyda	wasme: Yes, that'd be Alacarte I believe.	01:56
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: well.. they warn you that only "experience users install this driver".. if you feel up to the task, go ahead	01:56
juano__	madman91: i suggest you see the preferences before converting... for bitrate, quality , etc	01:56
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: I have you!	01:56
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: :D	01:56
wasme	Fyda: ah, k, thanks	01:56
ovid	brophat: are you dualbooting?	01:56
brophat	ovid no	01:57
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: I'm off to bed in about 10 minutes =)	01:57
wasme	Fezzler: do what fyda said ... then you can just drag and drop your new desktop icon into the menu	01:57
ovid	brophat: then i think you can use all available...whatever numbers default when it asks	01:57
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: and I'm not sure I could guide you through it.. I've never used that driver	01:57
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: So I have 10 minutes to try... :D	01:57
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: sure.. go ahead	01:57
Fezzler	wasme: Fyda: I love Linux/Ubuntu. Done!!	01:57
brophat	ovid sorry, I am also having a /home	01:58
LinuxEzGer8	Okay, so I've DLed it	01:58
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Fezzler	Dragged and dropped	01:58
LinuxEzGer8	It's in a tar file.	01:58
flamsmark	okay, slightly different plan - can i install some of the server bits (and the kernel, preferably) from the desktop livecd?	01:58
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brophat	i have / and /home, how big should / be?	01:58
LinuxEzGer8	I've extracted it to desktop	01:58
Fezzler	Is there a tv tuner card that works with Ubuntu?	01:59
bjbdrgn	flamsmark: not sure, but the kernel sort of has to be installed, right?	01:59
LinuxEzGer8	If I go into terminal, can I just do a "sh" on it?	01:59
flamsmark	well, a kernel	01:59
flamsmark	but not neccesarily the one i want, bjbdrgn	01:59
wasme	Fezzler: tv tuner cards are a little hit and miss for linux support. I'd suggest searching google with the exact make and model number your looking for.	02:00
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: didn't they have instructions on the creative site?	02:00
sethk	ovid, try the text mode install on the alternate cd	02:00
bjbdrgn	flamsmark: not sure if it's on the cd, but the linux packages probably have it	02:00
Pir8	this might be a silly question, but is there a way to find out the date on which I installed linux on my system ?	02:00
Fyda	bjbdrgn: That fullscreen toggling action is now in a plugin called "extrawm" (Extra WM Actions), which is inside compiz-fusion-plugins-extra.	02:00
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: In the readme it says I need to have the fully configured source for ALSA and my Linux Kernal	02:00
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, yes, but it's the same as just running it in the terminal without the sh	02:01
madman91	Pir8: if you get an answer, please let me know, I'm interested in this as well	02:01
Pir8	maddler, ok :)	02:01
bjbdrgn	Fyda: ahh, downloading everything that matched compiz right now	02:01
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: How do you run something in terminal without sh?	02:01
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, running it under sh is the default. As long as the script is marked executable (as in chmod +x) the sh isn't needed, although it doesn't hurt.	02:01
brophat	I have / and /home, how big should I make / ??	02:01
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, you simply type in the name	02:01
LinuxEzGer8	sethk: thanks!	02:01
doorknob60	hmm foso go to System->administration->synaptic package manager	02:01
Slart	LinuxEzGer8: I can't really help you with the alsa source.. I've never messed with that	02:01
flamsmark	bjbdrgn, but will it mess things about to install them later?	02:01
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, if you were to say sh xyz it's the same as just typing xyz	02:01
Fyda	bjbdrgn: If you used the standard dist-upgrader I think compiz would have been auto-installed already... maybe not plugins-extra though.	02:01
bjbdrgn	flamsmark: not sure, I installed Kubuntu from a server install	02:02
flamsmark	bjbdrgn what did you do, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?	02:02
LinuxEzGer8	Slart: Thanks anyway! And thanks for all your help. I think Seth wants to take a bite. :D Sethk: How do I know if I have "configured source for the Linux kernel and ALSA which you want to use for this device driver"?	02:02
sethk	flamsmark, no impact on anything later	02:02
doorknob60	foso?	02:03
bjbdrgn	flamsmark: yeah, and turned off services except for ssh	02:03
overlord_	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=609608 <- This is my problem. Kindly help. Anyone!	02:03
foso	doorknob60 i did, and i got the python files listed in the readme	02:03
doorknob60	oh u did	02:03
mular	hey everyone, I accidently set the wrong partition as a linux swap, corrected it but for some reason my windows install is still seeing it oddly can't assign it a drive letter	02:03
lucian	what is the proper way to mount an external hd? Im doing sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sdf1 ./book and it still wont let me write to it without sudo	02:03
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, obviously if you installed them, then you know they are present. You can use the synaptic package manager to view what's installed and what isn't.	02:03
mular	anyone know how I can fix that, short of formatting?	02:03
foso	doorknob60 yeah im installing right now	02:03
doorknob60	so install the pythin files then try ./configure again	02:03
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, by default the kernel headers are installed. By default the compiler is not, so you'll need: sudo apt-get install build-essential	02:03
foso	ok thanks!	02:03
doorknob60	then hopefully it wont give any errors	02:03
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: I am pretty sure I'm gtg on the Linux (7.10 ubuntu) but the ALSA has me worried.	02:04
flamsmark	bjbdrgn, so if i really want a something that works as a server, but i can run a local x usefully on too, would you recommend that?	02:04
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: ah	02:04
Pir8	madman91, check for the timestamp on your /etc/fstab file.	02:04
sethk	mular, both the windows install and the linux install will see all partitions. Windows doesn't necessarily understand the type of a linux partition. Linux is smarter and understands the types of all windows partitions.	02:04
alfermp	hey guys can u recomen some aplication for send and recived fax. I have Ubuntu	02:05
mular	sethk, is there anyway I can get it to read / write on that odd partition?	02:05
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, you may have to install some or all of alsa, but it's not difficult to do.	02:05
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: is ALSA standard?	02:05
sethk	mular, you mean windows?	02:05
mular	yup	02:05
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, yes, on the desktop install	02:05
hallo	sethk, not really,try total commander	02:05
mular	I know this is ubuntu but started here lol	02:05
lucian	what is the proper way to mount an external hd? Im doing sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sdf1 ./book and it still wont let me write to it without sudo	02:05
sethk	mular, you can format it as a windows partition, but then of course, linux won't use it for swap	02:05
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Sorry to ask stupid questions, but how do I know how much ALSA I have installed?	02:05
flamsmark	!alsa	02:05
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	02:05
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, easiest way is to use synaptic, the gui front end of the package manager. Installed things have a solid green box on the left, installed things have an empty box (that you can check to install)	02:06
ConstyXIV	are there any apps in ubuntu to use your webcam as a security camera?	02:06
foso	doorknob60, sending a message	02:06
mular	aye I see so no way to "change" it back.. ubuntu still see's it as NTFS and so does windows.. but its partition magic that tells me its a linux swap lol bugger	02:06
bjbdrgn	Fyda: thanks, worked fine, and i'm upgraded properly	02:06
mular	have so much data on it don't want to format ;(	02:06
sethk	mular, if you made it linux swap, the data is most likely already gone	02:06
sethk	mular, sounds as if perhaps you didn't actually save the partition change to make it linux swap.	02:07
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Should I just install everything ALSA?	02:07
fat_rat	--help	02:07
sethk	mular, do fdisk -l on the disk, see what it thinks the partitions are	02:07
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, if you have plenty of disk space, then sure.	02:07
mular	says ntfs	02:07
mular	err wait	02:07
mular	/dev/sdb1 1 54426 437176813+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris	02:08
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sethk	mular, ok, windows will see that as unused space.	02:08
mular	windows says ntfs - the datas still all there but windows can't see it.. it did at one time but I just formatted and reinstalled windows after a bad idea of just using virtualbox	02:08
foso	doorknob60 did you get it?	02:08
doorknob60	nope	02:08
fat_rat	is there bitchx aviable for ubuntu?	02:08
sethk	fat_rat, yes	02:08
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: I built this machine to just run WoW	02:08
kitche	fat_rat: yep	02:08
mular	since the reinstall, windows sees it as NTFS unknown file system.. no way to fix that then?	02:08
robdig	lucian: for fat filesystem, it defaults the ownership and group to the process...since you're using sudo then i guess it is setting it to root...ls -l would verify. there is an option to set the user and group id for fat...	02:09
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: So space is not a problem	02:09
flamsmark	fat_rat apt-cache search bitchx	02:09
fat_rat	sethk: apt-get?	02:09
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, ok, then just check all of them, make your life easier.	02:09
sethk	fat_rat, search in synaptic; I don't remember the exact package name.	02:09
lucian	robdig: what is that option. . because i cant use mount without sudo	02:09
flamsmark	fine, ignore me	02:09
brophat	anyone know how big I should make / if I also have /home ??	02:09
LinuxEzGer8	Sehtk: Done. Should I go ahead and install the driver for my sound card?	02:09
sethk	flamsmark, hey, you have to type faster. :)	02:09
fat_rat	sethk: thx	02:10
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, if it isn't already installed, yes.	02:10
doorknob60	brophat: 10-15 gb should do	02:10
flamsmark	sethk but i was in there :(	02:10
foso	doorknob60, now?	02:10
sethk	flamsmark, :)	02:10
doorknob60	nothing	02:10
Synx_hm	Ack utorrent is stuck in the system tray and i cant get it out, ive tried restarting it and even rebooting, an ideas?	02:10
brophat	doorknob60 isn't that kind of large? I thought 500 megs	02:10
doorknob60	idk...	02:10
robdig	lucian: uid=<value>,gid=<value>	02:10
LinuxEzGer8	"This product will only support 64-bit Operating Systems"	02:10
bluejay	can someone help me out on installing icecast & mpd?	02:10
doorknob60	a lot of programs dont install into home	02:10
doorknob60	und in like /usr and stuff	02:11
doorknob60	idk	02:11
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, that's a binary, then. A 32 bit version must also be available	02:11
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, which card/driver?	02:11
doorknob60	more than 500mb though	02:11
T1m0thy	Does anyone know of an unstable repo for Ubuntu or at least one that keeps an up to date version of Pidgin?	02:11
lucian	so sudo mount -t vfat -o rw,uid=myusername,gid=myusername /dev/sdf1 ./book ?	02:11
foso	doorknob60 im seeing yours but i dont think youre getting mine	02:11
doorknob60	weird cuz im not getting yours	02:11
sethk	brophat, well, it depends on what you want to install. You can get the o/s with console support running in about 128 meg, but that's not what most people want.	02:11
LinuxEzGer8	Sound Blaster Xfi Xtreme Audio	02:11
Vadi	What's the command to re-create the xorg.conf file? Without the questions part.	02:12
brophat	sethk if I was gonna do that I would not need this channel haha	02:12
foso	doorknob60, basically i was gonna send you the whole error, but it says i dont have libwnck1.0	02:12
robdig	lucian: think so, checking to see if they want numeric values (surely they wouldn't...)	02:12
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, I've heard of many cases where 32 bit is available but not 64, but never the reverse. The 32 bit driver is out there, somewhere.	02:12
lucian	robdig: i hope not because i dont know what my numeric value is or how to get it	02:12
doorknob60	sudo apt-get install libwnck1.0 type that in terminal	02:12
sethk	brophat, seriously, tell us what you want to install and we can comment more specifically on space.	02:12
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: What morons. They did precisely that.	02:13
sethk	lucian, robdig, you only need numeric values if you want to use IDs that aren't defined within linux.	02:13
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Appears it's only available for 64-bit	02:13
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, url? That would be more than just moronic	02:13
brophat	sethk I have an 80 gig hd and a 120 gig hd, I want to put / and /home on the 80 and make the 120 one huge partition and call it /home/stuff	02:13
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, this I have to see.	02:13
robdig	sethk: ah, thanks...then lucian you should be good to go	02:13
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/27/creative-sound-blaster-x-fi-linux-driver/	02:14
mats_	problem: When I try to start sound recorder, it says: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the multimedia settings."...why?	02:14
sethk	brophat, that's certainly more than sufficient.	02:14
lucian	sethk,robdig: thanks	02:14
sethk	brophat, I prefer /usr2, but that's entirely asthetic and has no basis in logic. :)	02:14
brophat	sethk ok now for the big question: how big should I make / ??	02:15
LinuxEzGer8	There's posts around of people able to get theirs working	02:15
amitprakash	sethk, hey,.. thanks a lot..i fixed the uuids and now i can boot in.. tho i think most of my permissions are messed up	02:15
foso	doorknob60 unable to lock the administration directory	02:15
amitprakash	sethk, have reversed most of the damage tho	02:15
T1m0thy	Why are some images appearing smaller than they're supposed to in Firefox?	02:15
sethk	brophat, make the 80 gig drive one partition, and the 120 one partition.	02:15
lucian	yay!	02:15
LinuxEzGer8	Is it possible to install the factory ones from the CD using CrossOver?	02:15
lucian	works	02:15
doorknob60	foso never seen that one before, and idk what it means either	02:15
brophat	sethk you are saying make the 80 gig like / and the 120 say /stuff ??	02:16
bjbdrgn	Fyda: know where compiz settings are stored, for Ring Switcher? I can't seem to set the key macro in Actions	02:16
foso	doorknob60 i have libwnck 22	02:16
sethk	brophat, yes, that is what I would do.	02:16
brophat	hmm ok	02:16
foso	it said something about renaming something	02:16
doorknob60	foso did it give that error when you tried to do ./configure?	02:16
sharsa	ok, i need soundcard help. Intel ALC883 Analog, it is setup, not mute, yet nada, no sound	02:16
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: How do people get their devices working without the exact driver?	02:17
Fyda	bjbdrgn: For Compiz-specific questions I would recommend that you ask in #compiz-fusion	02:17
IndyGunFreak	!intelhda \| sharsa	02:17
ubotu	sharsa: For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto	02:17
sharsa	thx	02:17
foso	doorknob60 yeah, then it said the other thing about unable to lock when i tried to get it	02:17
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, in general, they don't, unless the hardware emulates some other more common hardware.	02:17
amitprakash	sethk, is it possible to get a list of all the stuff installed on my ubuntu installation	02:17
doorknob60	hmmmmm try again? :P idk	02:17
sethk	amitprakash, dpkg can list installed packages, yes. synaptic will show you in a nice UI	02:18
kst-	gn.	02:18
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: And I can't run the 64-bit one? Is there a way to change to 64-bit mode?	02:18
amitprakash	sethk, dpkg -l?	02:18
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, if you have a 64 bit processor, you can install all 64 bit software.	02:18
sethk	amitprakash, right	02:19
wardrich	hey	02:19
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, a 64 bit installation can run 32 bit programs, but it won't work the other way around.	02:19
amitprakash	sethk, i would like to get only the package names so that after a clean install i can just do a sudo aptitude install list and get away with it.. is that possible?	02:19
foso	doorknob60 thanks for your help, ill keep messing	02:20
doorknob60	kk	02:20
sethk	amitprakash, yes, it's possible to script it.	02:20
Tripfx	anyone have problems installing limewire?	02:20
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Just scoured the documentation that came with my chip. Can't find anything about bits. How can I check what bits I have?	02:21
KI4IKL	I installed kubuntu-desktop to kinda try it out, and then decided I didn't like it so I apt-get removed kubunu-desktop...yet all the kde apps are still installed	02:21
amitprakash	sethk, will try.. thanks	02:21
IndyGunFreak	Tripfx: try frostwire, but most likely the problem is you don't have java installed.	02:21
fat_rat	Tripfx: nope	02:21
wardrich	Tripfx: why not use GiFT?	02:21
monstermike234	join #math	02:21
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, it's not the chip, it's the installed software and it's the processor on the mother board. To run 64 bit, you need a 64 bit processor; AMD is the most frequently used one.	02:21
fat_rat	Tripfx: check dependences...	02:22
Tripfx	yest thats what it says but I have installed java. I will try frostwire or gift. Thanks everyone	02:22
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, if you have a 64 bit processor, you can install the 64 bit version of ubuntu, and then use the 64 bit driver.	02:22
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: System Monitor says: Processor: AMD Athlon (tm) 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 5600+	02:22
wardrich	Gift will run in a terminal window	02:22
wardrich	it's pretty light weight, but it does the rick	02:22
wardrich	*trick	02:22
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, ok, good, so it's 64 bit dual core, which is very powerful	02:22
LinuxEzGer8	SNAP SON!	02:22
IndyGunFreak	Tripfx: most likely if limnewire isn't working, frostwire won't..., yu probably don't have the proper java environment installed.	02:22
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, but you need to install 64 bit ubuntu to take advantage of it.	02:22
LinuxEzGer8	How do I set everything to 64-bittles?	02:22
LinuxEzGer8	crap	02:22
Tripfx	is gift as easy as limewire?	02:23
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, sorry about that, but you install one or the other.	02:23
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: How do I go about doing that?	02:23
wardrich	it's pretty straight forward	02:23
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, an ubuntu install doesn't really take all that long. Besides, you'll do it much better the second time.	02:23
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, you download the 64 bit cd	02:23
IndyGunFreak	Tripfx: its a CLI program if i recall... so you make the decision	02:23
wardrich	run giftd -d, then run giFTcurs	02:23
wardrich	http://www.nongnu.org/giftcurs/	02:23
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: If I have no cd to write to, what would you suggest? I have LiveCD for 7.04	02:24
Tripfx	let me try. I'll check back if I have a problem.	02:24
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Also, I'm assuming I will need to redo the video card driver?	02:24
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, 7.04, and 7.10, are both available in 32 bit and 64 bit versions.	02:24
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, well, once you reinstall the o/s, it will stop complaining that it needs the 64 bit o/s. You have to reinstall _everything_	02:25
flamsmark	so, i'm using a gigabyte n680-sli dq6 motherboard which has an onboard sata raid controller. to this are attached three large hard drives (the system drive is separate, on another sata controler on the mobo) and in the first sata raid controller mentioned's portion of the bios, it's set to use these three drives as a single beautiful raid-5'd volume. why then, do i perennially see the drives as three separate objects in the	02:25
flamsmark	os?	02:25
flamsmark	seriously? os gets truncated?	02:25
flamsmark	fine, be that way	02:25
T1m0thy	Does anyone know of an unstable repo for Ubuntu or at least one that keeps an up to date version of Pidgin?	02:25
sethk	flamsmark, you need to configure the kernel to recognize the RAID 5 setup.	02:25
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Okay, so I have LiveCD 7.04. How do I tell it to install the 64-bit version and subsequently update to 7.10 64-bit? Also, do you know if the nvidia drivers that I currently have are supported in 64-bit? And lastly.... Thank you so much. You are my hero. :D	02:26
KI4IKL	I installed kubuntu-desktop to kinda try it out, and then decided I didn't like it so I apt-get removed kubunu-desktop...yet all the kde apps are still installed	02:26
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, as far as I know, you don't tell it, you simply use the 64 bit cd to install 64 bit, and the 32 bit cd to install 32 bit. You'll have to burn that cd somewhere.	02:26
amitprakash	#join #ubuntu-india	02:26
IndyGunFreak	KI4IKL: lol, you're gonnna spend a LONG time uninstalling those apps..	02:27
sethk	amitprakash, /join, not #join	02:27
doorknob60	if u need to just remove them individually	02:27
amitprakash	yeah :X	02:27
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Can I download it to my HDD, say on the desktop, and run it from there?	02:27
KI4IKL	IndyGunFreak, but why wont kubuntu-desktop unstall them all?	02:27
doorknob60	idk...	02:27
KI4IKL	thats kinda BS	02:27
IndyGunFreak	KI4IKL: well, if you'd used aptitude instead of apt-get, it would have..	02:27
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, you can do that with packages, but not with the initial install.	02:27
doorknob60	idk if this will do anything but try sudo apt-get autoremove	02:27
* Peregrino says Hi!		02:27
IndyGunFreak	KI4IKL: it is..., but its the way apt-get is designed.	02:27
Nostahl	how do i get ndisgtk in ubuntu	02:27
doorknob60	might take em off	02:27
KI4IKL	IndyGunFreak, what aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop?	02:27
Nostahl	i dont see it in synaptic	02:27
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, you can set up a 32 bit/64 bit cross compiler and rebuilt the kernel in 64 bit mode, and then install all the 64 bit packages.	02:27
dany	alguien puede hablar bien carjo jajaja seguro ni me entienden	02:28
nickrud	KI4IKL, you can get rid of the great majority with apt-get remove libqt3-mt	02:28
IndyGunFreak	KI4IKL: won't work at this point, because you didn't aptitude install kubuntu-desktop	02:28
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, it's a bit tricky to set up if you haven't worked with gcc in cross compilation configuration.	02:28
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LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Just flew that one over my head	02:28
Peregrino	Is there anybody willing to help? ^_^	02:28
flamsmark	sethk - shouldn't my hardware be presenting itself as a single volume?	02:28
IndyGunFreak	nickrud: thats a good idea, didn't think of that.	02:28
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, it's not difficult, it's just buzzwords.	02:28
sethk	flamsmark, not always.	02:28
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Can you guide me, or is it pretty involved?	02:28
Fyda	!es dany	02:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about es dany - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:28
robdig	Peregrino: maybe...what's your question	02:29
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, I can try to guide you. It's hard to say whether we would succeed because I don't know how much you already know and how brave you are.	02:29
Peregrino	regarding user passwords ion Ubuntu 7.10	02:29
flamsmark	sethk - your suggestion, would that make the kernel see the volume, or are you suggesting a software raid setup?	02:29
wardrich	Anybody here know much about wireless? I'm on a dell Inspiron 1501, and I've gotten as far as getting the Wifi light to turn on... and it can find the SSID's, but I can't for the life of me get it to connect... is there something I can try typing in the CLI? All I've really been able to try is the networking app that came with Ubuntu	02:29
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Very brave, very unknowledgable	02:29
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, seriously, it's not dangerous, because if you mess up, you reinstall.	02:29
ricanelite_	anyone here plays Urban terror?	02:29
sethk	flamsmark, no, not software raid.	02:29
IndyGunFreak	!ask \| Peregrino	02:29
ubotu	Peregrino: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	02:29
sethk	flamsmark, there are RAID controllers that do the right thing (that is, present the thing as if it were one physical disk), but not all of them do so.	02:30
theRealBall\|away	hi is anyone good with accounting 101 ? i need help please PM me	02:30
T1m0thy	Why are some images appearing smaller than they're supposed to in Firefox?	02:30
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: I am putty in your hands.	02:30
sethk	flamsmark, what can happen is that the o/s uses a fallback driver with very basic IDE (or SATA, in this case) functionality.	02:30
flamsmark	sethk - so you suggest that there's some way for me to persuade my kernel to see the full volume, say like installing a driver for the full volume?	02:30
theRealBall\|away	help out a fellow linux user eh	02:30
Nostahl	what is the root password for ubuntu 7.10	02:30
T1m0thy	Whatever you set it to.	02:30
Peregrino	okey! Well, I would like to remove the password for my user account on Ubuntu 7.10 (or at least remove the propts for it), but I don't have the least Idea how to do it :S	02:30
Zok\|	guys, I need lil help .. I got new, fresh installed Kubuntu distribution, and I can't compile :/ .. I got error message: Can't find X libraries .. anyone who can help me please ?	02:30
robdig	Nostahl: there isn't one	02:30
sethk	flamsmark, right, by installing a driver that is aware of the chipset your board is using to implement raid.	02:31
IndyGunFreak	!root \| Nostahl	02:31
ubotu	Nostahl: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	02:31
sethk	flamsmark, if you tell us the chipset we can be more specific.	02:31
flamsmark	n680sli	02:31
Nostahl	what package do i download to get ndisgtk	02:31
amitprakash	sethk, how do i run gnome network applet from konsole?	02:31
IndyGunFreak	Zok\|: for kubuntu help, join #kubuntu	02:31
brophat	sethk would there be any benefit to having it in the /home dir?	02:31
flamsmark	sethk n680sli, and i'm checking nvidia's site	02:31
IndyGunFreak	Peregrino: you're not going to find anyone here that will tell you how to do that.	02:32
flamsmark	sethk though i did mention the chipset initially	02:32
sethk	amitprakash, generally speaking, you don't. I think there is an adapter to do so with kde, but not at the CLI.	02:32
flamsmark	sethk :p	02:32
amitprakash	okay :)	02:32
sethk	flamsmark, well, I'm getting old and forgetful. Plus this channel has about 200 messages a second (or so it sometimes seems)	02:32
ricanelite_	anyone plays games on linux?	02:32
T1m0thy	Does anyone know of an unstable repo for Ubuntu or at least one that keeps an up to date version of Pidgin?	02:32
leviatan	hi! I have a question: how can I have mp3 archives reviews with nautilus? i can preview just ogg and wav files	02:32
doorknob60	i play some games on linux	02:32
IndyGunFreak	T1m0thy: just compile it, it doesn't take long	02:32
flamsmark	sethk i concur	02:32
T1m0thy	I don't, ricanlite_, I do use Steam on my desktop.	02:32
Peregrino	IndyGunFreak: Why? Forgiveme if that's not legal :S I'm just bored of entering my pass over and over again	02:32
sethk	LinuxEzGer8, I don't think we can do it in traffic. Join #temp102. anyone else who may be interested can also join.	02:33
T1m0thy	IndyGunFreak: I've had problems with compiling Pidgin.	02:33
IndyGunFreak	Peregrino: its not that its illegal, its a security issue	02:33
IndyGunFreak	T1m0thy: like what?	02:33
gradin	what is that damned runlevel update command in debian?	02:33
T1m0thy	IndyGunFreak: Like, not having the tray image or no sound when im-ing.	02:33
flamsmark	sethk, and from the nvidia site, where, as soon as i select nforce, it jusmps to my chip, and linux, responds with 'No downloads were found for your configuration.'	02:34
IndyGunFreak	T1m0thy: those sound like settings sisues, not compiling issues.... i've compiled pidgin many times with no such issues.	02:34
Ttech	Hi, I need help, I want to play dvd's I innstalled the libdvdcss2 lib but it still won't play.	02:34
Ttech		02:34
T1m0thy	IndyGunFreak: Okay.. Well, should I sudo apt-get remove the current Pidgin before compiling the new one?	02:34
sethk	flamsmark, I had a machine last week where I had to use the driver from nvidia's web site because of a very new card. The distro is always a bit behind, because they have to take nvidia's driver, turn it into a package, test it, etc.	02:34
Peregrino	IndyGunFreak: But isn't there a setting like "don't propmt for passord" or a setting in witch I enter my pass only one and Ubuntu takes care anytime it needs a password?	02:35
doorknob60	timothy: wouldnt be a bad idea	02:35
IndyGunFreak	T1m0thy: here's what i would do, sudo apt-get remove pidgin... let that finish, then sudo apt-get build-dep gaim install all that crap,	02:35
IndyGunFreak	then compile	02:35
IndyGunFreak	Peregrino: no	02:35
flamsmark	sethk - though it seems like i'm out of luck	02:35
T1m0thy	IndyGunFreak: Thanks. :)	02:35
foso	doorknob60 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you	02:35
foso	installed software in a non-standard prefix.	02:35
IndyGunFreak	T1m0thy: np, it should compile pretty easily after you do those two commands..	02:35
foso	doorknob60 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you	02:35
foso	installed software in a non-standard prefix.	02:35
doorknob60	foso idk what that means either lol	02:36
foso	crap	02:36
sethk	flamsmark, possibly. I would try installing the most recent nvidia driver regardless of what it claims to support. It may work. The one from the repos would probably work also, if you could convince the installer to use it.	02:36
amitprakash	if my nm-applet is unable to get a hold of my nics.. what permissions are missing?	02:36
ricanelite_	im having a pretty hard time wondering why i can't get urban terror or enemy territory running right	02:36
foso	anyone know what the error i just pasted mean?	02:36
Peregrino	IndyGunFreak: Geez, I think I'll have to get used to type my password over and over again :P But in the LiveCD you don't have to enter any Password :/	02:36
leviatan	how can I preview mp3 files? someone could tell me pls?	02:36
sethk	flamsmark, you can also use the nv driver (the open source, 2d driver) until the 3d driver is updated.	02:36
doorknob60	oooh do sudo apt-get install build-essentials is u havent already foso	02:36
IndyGunFreak	Peregrino: sounds like it.	02:36
ricanelite_	like when i use the mouse to look around it locks up for a second and then it is fine and when im looking around again it locks up again	02:37
sethk	Peregrino, you can set it up to not have to use the password.	02:37
flamsmark	sethk - but was we recall, this is not a graphics but a raid driver	02:37
sethk	flamsmark, oh, yes, sorry, got confused.	02:37
Peregrino	sethk: how?	02:37
sethk	flamsmark, let me check that chipset.	02:37
flamsmark	wahoo! i have bootage, or booty, or what-have-you. it looks like my other hard drives were right royally confusing the grub installer	02:37
flamsmark	sethk - yes sir	02:37
foso	doorknob60 couldnt find the package	02:37
novas0x2a	how do i change a package's status from installed to auto-installed?	02:37
sethk	Peregrino, what are you doing specifically where you need to type the password?	02:37
foso	doorknob60 should it be in the desktop/avant in the terminal?	02:37
doorknob60	tthat command doesnt really matter	02:38
leviatan	I think I need a library to preview mp3 files, but I don't know wich one.... someone can helpp me pls?	02:38
nickrud	Peregrino, you can set the timeout of your password , visudo and add the line timestamp_timeout <num> 15 is the default	02:38
doorknob60	levi: what do u mean by preview them?	02:38
Peregrino	sethk: Mhhh, Let's se... today I installed Ubuntu, and I was prompted at least 6 times for it...	02:39
leviatan	doorknob60 If I put the cursor over a ogg i can heard the file, but I can't do it with mps files	02:39
sethk	flamsmark, take a look at http://hardware4linux.info/system/1423/	02:39
doorknob60	hmm i didnt even know you could do that with any files....	02:39
doorknob60	idk	02:39
sethk	Peregrino, if you can't be specific, I can't tell you how to turn off the password requirement	02:39
IndyGunFreak	Peregrino: what you're asking to do is 1. not-safe, 2. stupid.. and i would caution you about following the advice of anyone that tells you how to do it.	02:40
doorknob60	well i gotta go eat dinner be back later	02:40
leviatan	yes you can hehe but i don't know how to do it with mp3 files	02:40
leviatan	doorknob60 ok	02:40
hallo	if isp locked the port 6667,what port i should use? i mean irc	02:40
mats_	how come i can't record in sound recorder? I can hear what I play from my speakers...(guitar)?	02:40
flamsmark	sehtk - ok, brb	02:40
wardrich	Anybody here know much about wireless? I'm on a dell Inspiron 1501, and I've gotten as far as getting the Wifi light to turn on... and it can find the SSID's, but I can't for the life of me get it to connect... is there something I can try typing in the CLI? All I've really been able to try is the networking app that came with Ubuntu	02:40
Peregrino	IndyGunFreak: Okey, You know, this wquestion came up to me just a few minutes ago, and I was doing just some research before really doing anything ;)	02:40
IndyGunFreak	Peregrino: well, google is your friend..	02:41
leviatan	how can I preview mp3 files? someone knows?	02:41
flamsmark	sethk - that looks pretty decent	02:41
flamsmark	sethk - though abunch of other things are plaing up now :(	02:41
sethk	flamsmark, definitely encouraging	02:41
Peregrino	IndyGunFreak: Yeah! You can be sure about it, but sometimes I like some human feedback :P	02:41
leviatan	how can I preview mp3 files with nautilus? someone knows?	02:42
* nickrud feels IndyGunFreak 's slap (rubs cheek)		02:42
IndyGunFreak	nickrud: lol	02:42
Zombie	Ubuntu locks up if it cannot find my Domain Controller.	02:43
Highlife	hey guys I'm trying to ssh into an xubuntu machine on my network but I keep getting: RSA host key for 192.168.0.104 has changed and you have requested strict checking. Host key verification failed.	02:43
mats_	how come i can't record in sound recorder? I can hear what I play from my speakers...(guitar)? No matter what source I choose to record from, I still get no recorded sound...	02:43
Zombie	This is probably why my initial upgrade failed.	02:43
flamsmark	sethk - so that site lists the hardware on the system, and those individual pages list the modules needed to run that hardware?	02:43
Highlife	anyone know how i can fix that?	02:44
leviatan	how can I preview mp3 files? :(	02:44
remote_matrix	hey sethk are u there?\	02:44
Highlife	leviatan: Its in the ubuntu guide	02:44
Highlife	leviatan: ubuntuguide.org	02:45
leviatan	ok thanks Highlife	02:45
sethk	remote_matrix, yes ...	02:45
sethk	remote_matrix, well, in body at least.	02:45
dryrot	i can't find truecrypt in the repos, am i retarded ?	02:45
Highlife	So can anyone answer my ssh Question?	02:45
ticked	hey all, has anyone here heard anything about Super Grub Disk	02:46
IndyGunFreak	ticked: yes.	02:46
Xacarith	Does any one know where linux programs store their settings so that you can transfer then instead of having to set up programs like even Xchat again and again	02:46
ticked	indyGunFreak....good news or bad???	02:46
ivan	Xacarith: your home directory	02:46
crispexi	Xacarith, probably in your ~/	02:46
ivan	the hidden .dot files	02:46
crispexi	for xchat its ~/.xchat	02:46
IndyGunFreak	ticked: well, i've used it 3x, 1x it worked, 2x it didn't.. but i don't think it was the programs fault.	02:46
remote_matrix	sethk buddy u remember the fan problem i was having (cpu fan) not coming on?	02:47
IndyGunFreak	ticked: what do you need it for?	02:47
ticked	IndGunFreak, i have windows on a harddrive and linux on a harddrive,k windows is on C: I think i am gonna have to format windows soon and i am worried about killin Grub	02:47
FLUxXxX	hello! i've removed splash and quiet from grub's kernel line so i only have text. now i'm trying to get a proper resolution (1280x800 would be perfect) but i don;t know how to do this. While googleing i found something about framebuffer but i don't know if that's what i need or how to use it. help?	02:48
IndyGunFreak	ticked: yeah, you'll definitely kill grub if you do that.	02:48
ticked	yeah i was hopin Super Grub Disk would be able to save my bacon	02:48
IndyGunFreak	ticked: it might, but there are ways to reinstall grub from the Ubuntu Live CD's, although I'm not real familiar with it.	02:49
gaurdro	ticked: when you reinstall windows unplug the other drive and the SGD should repair things for you.	02:49
Dr_willis	!framebuffer	02:49
ubotu	If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer	02:49
ticked	guardro SGD?	02:49
gaurdro	super grub disk	02:49
ticked	ahhhh	02:49
ticked	cool	02:49
Dr_willis	FLUxXxX, its neabled by default you can use 'vga=ask' in the kernel options to test out the different res's at boot time.	02:50
tony_math	Highlife: Check your ssh configuration file /etc/ssh/ssh_config and make sure that StrictHostKeyChecking is commented out.	02:50
ticked	guardo, so i am guesing i should unplug drive with ubuntu, do what i gotta do with windows, then plug the drive back in and use sgd?	02:50
gaurdro	the important thing is make sure you're linux disk is unplugged when you install windows again. if windows is feeling cranky i've seen it annihilate both boot records. and/or format the linux dirve	02:50
sethk	remote_matrix, yes	02:51
sethk	remote_matrix, what's the answer?	02:51
AFDerrick	Question for those of you out there. I am new to Ubuntu and wanting to give back to the community (code), any suggestions where I can go to start with this?	02:51
Highlife	tony_math: Yes it's checked out	02:52
ticked	gaurdro thats what ubuntu did to me first time i tried partitioning c: and installing windows on c and ubuntu on d: thus the second drive	02:52
ovid	ubunut install locks up on hardware config, earlier the error message was: "cannot allocate resource 0 on 000:00:000	02:52
Highlife	anyone else good with ssh?	02:52
doorknob60	im back!	02:52
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robdig	AFDerrick: motu is a good place to start, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU	02:53
gaurdro	what do you need with ssh highlife?	02:53
AFDerrick	Robdig: Thanks.	02:53
robdig	AFDerrick: np	02:53
amitprakash	sethk, if my network isnt working.. any ideas what permissions got changed during the copy?	02:53
IndyGunFreak	tofaffy: did you get your prob w/ limewire worked out?	02:53
remote_matrix	sethk well sir, no answer yet... i kinda got more clues was wondering if u could help?	02:53
Highlife	guardo: I'm getting: RSA host key for 192.168.0.104 has changed and you have requested strict checking.Host key verification failed.	02:53
tofaffy	IndyGunFreak, yeah	02:54
Highlife	everytime i try to connect to an xubuntu machine on my network	02:54
sethk	amitprakash, that's really very hard. See if there is any useful info in the logs. try /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog.	02:54
tofaffy	IndyGunFreak, you have good memory, it's been a long time since that problem	02:54
amitprakash	Highlife,either somenes done an attack,, or the server chaged his key	02:54
tony_math	Highlife: As a last resort, you can delete your .ssh folder in your home directory. rm ~/.ssh. You should be prompted to accept all keys again.	02:54
sethk	remote_matrix, ok, but give me a few moments to finish up a phone call.	02:54
IndyGunFreak	tofaffy: it was just like 10-15min ago wasn't it?..lol..	02:54
Xacarith	Does any one know where linux programs save their settings?	02:54
gaurdro	highlife: have you connected to it when it was running another opperating system.	02:54
tony_math	Highlife: that should have been rm -rf ~/.ssh	02:54
Highlife	no	02:54
amitprakash	Highlife, remove ~/.ssh/known_hosts	02:54
Highlife	well yes	02:55
sethk	tony_math, he might be able to get away with deleting only ~/.ssh/known_hosts. If that doesn't work, he can always delete the rest.	02:55
Highlife	and it worked	02:55
tony_math	That's true sethk.	02:55
Xacarith	Already tried copying the home folder over...	02:55
remote_matrix	sethk take ur time lemmie know when ur done	02:55
gaurdro	each operating system will generate it's own set of keys so change in operating system=keys change error	02:55
Highlife	amitprakash and tony_math remove these from the computer im trying to connect to	02:56
Highlife	or the one im using to connect?	02:56
Ganjistus	i install Sidbuntu	02:56
Ganjistus	i hope it works	02:56
amitprakash	Highlife, the one u are using to connect	02:56
tony_math	Highlife: remove the .ssh folder from the computer you're using to connect. The computer where you're typing "ssh...."	02:56
source	time	02:56
nickrud	sidbuntu?	02:56
Ganjistus	yeah debian sid sources on ubuntu	02:56
nickrud	what's the point?	02:57
Ganjistus	i have no clue what i do	02:57
Ganjistus	i just do that to gain experiences	02:57
nickrud	that's a good point :)	02:57
doorknob60	brb -.-	02:57
sethk	Ganjistus, not necessarily a bad idea, if you don't mind reinstalling in case you need a stable box.	02:58
IndyGunFreak	don't think i've ever heard of it.	02:58
Highlife	thank you tony_math and amitprakash	02:58
Highlife	it works now	02:58
amitprakash	sethk, wow.. there are like a million entries there ^^	02:58
sethk	amitprakash, always. search for error (case insignificant)	02:58
Ganjistus	i think i can manualy "downgrade" to stable packets	02:58
flamsmark	sethk - what are these 'modules' of which they speak	02:58
amitprakash	sethk, found the error already :D and fixing it	02:59
tony_math	Glad to help Highlife!	02:59
IndyGunFreak	Ganjistus: i would find that pretty unlikely	02:59
sethk	flamsmark, a module is a piece of the kernel that can be loaded after boot.	02:59
amitprakash	sethk, btw how many years of linux exp do u have?	02:59
sethk	amitprakash, I had 20 years of unix experience before linux existed, so a lot.	02:59
Ganjistus	try and error or something	02:59
amitprakash	sethk, wow	02:59
nickrud	ah, another old man	02:59
Xacarith	As much as I like linux, this is one of my issues with it, that programs install parts in so many places... The other is permissions. It's bad when you can't change sub folders in folders you own...	02:59
Ganjistus	sethk are you a unix developer so?	03:00
sethk	Ganjistus, yes.	03:00
LinuxEzGer8	Sethk: Still around?	03:10
LinuxEzGer8	What's a nick collision	03:13
LinuxEzGer8	?	03:13
winkman	HI... i've just installed FIrefox 2.0.0.11 and now my keyboard is acting up in firefox only... any ideas?	03:13
jepler	can someone point me at a good explanation of why my PATA IDE hard disk and cdrom have been recognized as scsi devices in ubuntu gutsy?	03:14
xzased	help. I rebooted my laptop and now it takes a while to load and says x server could not start	03:14
WACD	well I can't open my screens and graphics	03:14
WACD	i'm using ubuntu gutsy...	03:14
Fezzler	Worked like a charm	03:14
WACD	it works normally before...	03:14
nickrud	jepler, that's the new libata , it does that.	03:15
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winkman	any ideas?	03:15
IndyGunFreak	!xserver \| xzased	03:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:15
Fezzler	any irssi users? Favorite theme? I'm using clean. I prefer a white background	03:15
IndyGunFreak	xzased: what were you doing before you restarted?	03:16
remote_matrix	Ganjistus y would seti@home help me ?	03:16
WACD	can anyone help me... please...? i really need my second monitor working...	03:16
Fezzler	Is irssi worth the time to learn vs Pidgin?	03:16
xzased	I was passing some files to an external drive	03:16
xzased	I didnt ownload any updates	03:17
IndyGunFreak	Fezzler: two different beasts.. Pidgin is a great IM program, but a horrible irc client, look at xchat, xchat-gnome, irssie, kvirc, or several others for irssi.	03:17
ryantmer	Fezzler: Pidgin is nice, as it also has other IM clients built in	03:17
nickrud	Fezzler, anything is better than pidgin for irc, check out ircssi and xchat as well (not xchat-gnome)	03:17
IndyGunFreak	xzased: hmm, thats it?... that doesn't make any sense.	03:17
flamsmark	how can i get the sata_nv module?	03:17
ryantmer	But I use XChat myself	03:17
xzased	I know, its weird	03:17
jepler	aha, this is the explanation I was looking for: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks	03:17
jepler	thanks nickrud	03:18
nickrud	*irssi, shouldn't watch movies while I type	03:18
jepler	that helped me find the search term I needed..	03:18
Fezzler	nickrud: Is ircssi different from irssi	03:18
nickrud	Fezzler, typo	03:18
xzased	is there any way to restart the x server?	03:19
Fezzler	nickrud: typo - by me or u	03:19
nickrud	Fezzler, me, ircssi was supposed to be irssi	03:19
* IndyGunFreak shutters at irssi.. ;)		03:19
Fezzler	someone said irssi and "screen" and a powerful combo. What does "screen" provide?	03:19
Fezzler	IndyCar: Why?	03:20
IndyGunFreak	i need a GUI.., but thats just me..	03:20
WACD	hi...	03:20
WACD	I need help with my monitors	03:20
nickrud	Fezzler, I don't use screen, although I've played with it. It gives you several terminals in one, you can leave something running in it, close the terminal, and reconnect later for example.	03:20
IndyGunFreak	WACD: ask..	03:20
Fezzler	Brickyard: Ah, I like to play and learn with my Ubuntu PC	03:20
Fezzler	nickrud: Is irssi more than an IRC agent?	03:21
Highlife	Does anyone know how I could mask myself on a wireless network?	03:21
amitprakash	nickrud, message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 forsub-path eth0.dbus.get.reason .any ideas??	03:21
albertolempira	hey guys i have a problem with my Toshiba laptop and the RT kernel, it won't boot from the RealTime Kernel... it gets stuck trying to load it....	03:22
matsss	Hey, how come linux is so great in so many aspects, but can't even manage to record sounds? :/	03:22
matsss	this is annoying me...	03:23
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scguy318	!alsa \| matsss	03:23
ubotu	matsss: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	03:23
scguy318	matsss: probably related to ALSA	03:23
Fezzler	last irssi question as it is a bit OT. So to begin, is the comment /connect freenode?	03:24
matsss	scguy318: Ok, hm...	03:24
dryrot	Fezzler: /network list	03:24
dryrot	Fezzler: if you have a network defined as 'freenode', sure!	03:24
amitprakash	is there a way to forcefully reinstall all the packages i have on my system now?	03:26
doorknob60	foso? u there?	03:26
nickrud	amitprakash, nope, what version of ubuntu are you running	03:26
Boohbah	dorknoob60: yes?	03:26
Fezzler	dryrot: I better spend time at irssi.org before I start	03:26
doorknob60	lol i just got the lock error that u got	03:26
cua0	what's the default x config for ubuntu? is it /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?	03:27
notgod	hello. I am going to go get a wireless card for my desktop. best buy. anyone have a recommendation for a reliable model/vendor?	03:28
notgod	whoa.	03:30
WACD	sorry...	03:32
WACD	I went AFK...	03:32
WACD	I need help with my monitors...	03:33
WACD	I can't open my "Screens and Graphics" application...	03:33
WACD	a.k.a displayconfig-gtk	03:33
WACD	I need help with my monitors...	03:33
WACD	I can't open my "Screens and Graphics" application...	03:33
WACD	a.k.a displayconfig-gtk	03:33
crush_groove	I think so crdbl .. does it auto start once you have dled all the packages and emerald ?	03:34
Madpilot	whee, big netsplit	03:34
Ttech	Oh NO! Netsplit!	03:34
* Ttech dies in the netsplit		03:34
IndyGunFreak	yeah i think those are the netsplits, not nick collisions	03:34
* nickrud never sees them anymore, too much information		03:34
SpookyET	i can't get desktop effects to work	03:34
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crdlb	crush_groove: on Ubuntu, yes it's preinstalled and running by default on supported video cards	03:34
SpookyET	xgl is installed ati driver installed	03:34
crush_groove	sheesh	03:34
SpookyET	i don't know what else it wants	03:34
crdlb	SpookyET: did you log out after installing xserver-xgl ?	03:34
WACD	nope...	03:35
WACD	i use two monitors	03:35
nickrud	SpookyET, and sudo modprobe fglrx ?	03:35
WACD	n i don't use any desktop effects...	03:35
SpookyET	crdlb: wrong channel. it works in ubuntu	03:35
staykovmarin	is it normal not to be able to format to ntfs, or is it something i am doing? i am using gparted, and the ntfs choice is grayed out	03:35
SpookyET	i'm trying to make it work in fedora	03:35
WACD	n then yesterday...	03:35
crush_groove	crdlb is this why my xchat window and everything else cant be moved ?	03:35
crdlb	ah hehe	03:35
WACD	n then the secondary monitor always act as an extenxion...	03:36
WACD	but yesterday i need to use it as mirror	03:36
crdlb	crush_groove: open System > Preferences > Advanced Desktop Effects Settings	03:36
WACD	i mirrored.... log out...	03:36
WACD	n then came back in...	03:36
WACD	from that second on...	03:36
crush_groove	done	03:36
crdlb	crush_groove: and make sure that 'Place Windows' is checked	03:36
amitprakash	crdlb, help please :( i ended up changing permissions/ownership to my / recursively.. is there a way out w/o reinstall	03:36
WACD	my secondary monitor just gos to sleep..	03:36
scguy318	I've a question. I'm trying to get a Plustek Opticpro 4831p parallel port scanner to work, SANE says it's fully supported, but when I press the scan button in XSane, I get failed to start scanner: invalid argument message.	03:36
IndyGunFreak	!enter \| WACD	03:36
ubotu	WACD: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	03:36
cua0	what's the default x config for ubuntu? is it /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?	03:37
scguy318	cua0: I believe that's the case	03:37
speeddemon8803	yes cua0	03:37
IndyGunFreak	yup.	03:37
crdlb	amitprakash: not that I can think of	03:37
crush_groove	crdlb, place windows is checked and set at "smart" .. another thing is my windows dont seem to have borders	03:38
amitprakash	crdlb, how abt apt-get --reinstall install <pkg list from dpkg -l> ?	03:38
MokonaSan	does anyone know if it is possible to dual boot with Ubuntu on a PowerPC Mac?	03:38
hwilde	ever seen the loopback address just disappear?	03:38
cua0	MokonaSan: you should be able to, just be sure to download the ppc version	03:38
* Ttech didn't know apt-get had reinstall		03:38
speeddemon8803	mokonasan, I assume so because you can dual boot with windows ;)	03:38
crdlb	crush_groove: oh it sounds like there's no window manager running at all	03:39
foso	what is the shortcut for the switch shifter? like the deck of cards sort of thing	03:39
crdlb	crush_groove: run 'compiz --replace' in a terminal and pastebin the output	03:39
MokonaSan	ah cool. I figured as much. I might be getting an old iMac, and so I wondered :)	03:39
WACD	There is something wrong with my "Screens and Graphics" a.k.a displayconfig-gtk... I have two monitors and no desktop effect... I used to use my secondary monitor as an extension...however yesterday I need to use it as a mirror...so I open "screens and graphics" i changed the settings...	03:39
crdlb	foso: Windows key + Tab	03:39
foso	crdlb that is the sort of band that pops up	03:39
ogre	hey guys, what is the name of the app that is used to connect wirelessly (the one on the panel) and how can I add it to my <applications folder	03:39
crush_groove	!pastebin	03:39
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	03:39
amitprakash	crdlb, only problem is how do i get output from dpkg -l to a format i can paste to the command	03:40
LinuxEzGer8	Hello!	03:40
foso	crdlb my bad that is the ring switcher	03:40
crdlb	amitprakash: I really don't think that would work	03:40
staykovmarin	is it normal not to be able to format to ntfs, or is it something i am doing? i am using gparted, and the ntfs choice is grayed out	03:40
scguy318	ogre: Network Manager, but you really can't add it to the Apps menu	03:40
crdlb	foso: then turn off Ring Switcher, and Enable Shift Switcher. They use the same bindings by default	03:40
foso	oh	03:40
LinuxEzGer8	So I burned the 64-bit version of 7.10 to a CD, and when I try to boot off the CD, it locks at the menu screen. Please advise.	03:40
scguy318	I've a question. I'm trying to get a Plustek Opticpro 4831p parallel port scanner to work, SANE says it's fully supported, but when I press the scan button in XSane, I get failed to start scanner: invalid argument message.	03:40
foso	crdlb can i change the shortcut and use either?	03:40
WACD	and then after that i log out... restarted X... but when I log in...my secondary screen went to sleep n will never work after that... no matter how many time i restart my computer "screens and graphics" will not work...n few mins ago I just opened in terminal n at the end it tells me index error...	03:40
crdlb	foso: yes	03:40
darklordveynom	how do i set my runlevel to 3 and kill X so i can install my nvidia drivers	03:41
WACD	so can anyone help me please...?	03:41
scguy318	LinuxEzGer8: burn your CD slower	03:41
scguy318	LinuxEzGer8: might be a bad burn	03:41
robdig	ogre: think it is nm-applet	03:41
foso	crdlb can you show me how?	03:41
foso	*tell	03:41
crdlb	foso: join #compiz-fusion	03:41
hwilde	ever seen the loopback address just disappear?	03:41
hwilde	ever seen the loopback address just disappear?	03:41
amitprakash	crdlb, T_T is there a way to make a list of packages i need on my next install to mirror how my old installation was?	03:41
foso	crdlb thanks!	03:41
speeddemon8803	!repeat	03:41
LinuxEzGer8	Man, it just took me 20 minutes to burn it. :(	03:41
ubotu	Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience	03:41
scguy318	darklordveynom: what instructions are you follwing? Ubuntu technically doesn't have the concept of a runlevel	03:41
winkman	darklordveynom: just a sec	03:41
nickrud	darklordveynom, run levels 2-5 are all identical, not redhatisms here, log into a console and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop	03:41
crdlb	!clone \| amitprakash