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Jack_SparrowalexbOrsova: I saw that.. great...   now write it up so we know what you did00:00
bruce89Ahmuck: I doubt it00:00
runemaste644how do i get it to run nvidia.ko? the error says no such device00:00
Jack_SparrowAhmuck: what exactly are you trying to do00:00
alexbOrsovaJack_Sparrow: right...00:00
Tux_TuXhola alguien sabe de algun editor para formulas es que con el que trae integrado el openofice me estoy tardando años gracias00:00
bruce89Ahmuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy00:00
Tux_TuXsoory00:00
FluxDIs there any other tool to mess with cellphones other than bitpim?00:01
FluxD!cellphone00:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:01
soccer_hawk10FluxD: what's wrong with bitpim00:01
FluxD!mobile00:01
ubotuLearn more about Ubuntu Mobile at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded00:01
EaglerayAhmuck: syslinux can probably do it00:01
FluxDsoccer_hawk10: doesnt support my phone00:01
EaglerayAhmuck: although why you'd want to....00:01
soccer_hawk10fluxd: ah, that would be a problem, yes :)00:01
FluxD:)00:01
nickrud!bluetooth00:02
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup00:02
bruce89!phone00:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:02
FluxDand no bluetooth support :)00:02
runemaste644how do i get it to run nvidia.ko? the error says no such device00:02
soccer_hawk10is it an old phone?00:02
bruce89runemaste644: what do you mean by run, it's a kernel module00:02
FluxDsoccer_hawk10: not really the features in it are really not that great00:02
vishal_hi, can someone help me please00:02
runemaste644yes, but it says no such device00:03
bruce89!question00:03
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)00:03
eugene1Is there a brainf*ck compiler? I can only find interpreters so far.00:03
FluxD!language | eugene100:03
ubotueugene1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.00:03
incognitohello00:03
bruce89it's a language, not swearing00:03
incognitoI love ubuntu00:03
osxdude|desktopand /ame should be used very sparingly, especially if you're in more than a two channels.00:04
soundrayeugene1: I think it's an interpreted language. No compilers that I know of.00:04
vishal_hi, can someone help me please, im trying to give a vmware machine my second HD but it doesnt take it00:04
eugene1Well I used an asterisk. How many is necessary to nto be swearing?00:04
eugene1soundray: ah ok00:04
Jack_Sparrowvishal_: try in #vmware00:04
bruce89eugene1: indeed00:05
vishal_Jack_Sparrow: thanks00:05
Eaglerayeugene1: it's an interpreted language - iirc the wikipedia entry for it is rather useful, although I've not looked at it for a while00:05
Jack_Sparrowvishal_: They will know more than we do00:05
seqizzhi, can i emulate leopard in linux (by qemu) , i have a legal way but i should know is wemu capable?00:05
crush_groovehow do I apply an emerald theme ?00:05
runemaste644can someone please help me with nvidia.ko00:05
runemaste644it complains about no such device00:05
mularusing sdparm --set=SCT = what number would I put in to make it spin down every 1 if not active?00:06
seqizzwemu = qemu00:06
slugonehow can  i find out my default network interface name00:06
soccer_hawk10can someone help me find the cause of ubuntu 7.10 randomly freezing? i don't know where to start00:06
runemaste644do i need to make it use the nvidia_new00:06
bruce89slugone: ifconfig00:06
EaglerayI am trying to enable SHMConfig for my touchpad, but it's not working. The entry in xorg.conf is correct. How can I enable this?00:06
seqizzbys :D everybody has problems.. no answer :D00:06
soundraymular: to spin down your hard disk(s), you should configure laptop-mode-tools00:06
slugoneu rule red typing ppl00:07
Jack_Sparrowsoccer_hawk10: Have you used NON-ubuntu repos...  what all have you installed.. is this a laptop or desktop etc00:07
maddashEagleray: confirm that your entry is working by checking out /var/log/Xorg.0.log00:07
soundraymular: edit /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf00:07
RancidLMhey all can some one help me with a problem with mouseemu, i have a touchpad on my dell inspron1420 and when i install mouseemu my touchpad stops working.. the buttons work but no motion off the touchpad..any ideas any one?00:07
Jack_Sparrow!clone | jac00:07
ubotujac: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate00:07
mularsoundray, see I have a my book premium and it is set to spin down defaultly every 10mins00:07
osxdude|desktopand /ame should be used very sparingly, especially if you're in more than a two channels.00:07
mularI want to make it an hour.. I just don't know what the timer is with sdparm --set=SCT00:07
soccer_hawk10jack_sparrow: as far as i know, everything i've installed is from ubuntu's repos... i feel like compiz is causing it but i don't know why i get this feeling.  this is a desktop pc00:08
mular-S <n>00:08
mular--set SCT=<m>00:08
mularStandby condition timer, <n> has 5 second units (roughly) while <m> has 100 ms units thats from the how to00:08
runemaste644how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko?00:08
mularbut I don't know what that means lol00:08
vishal_Jack_Sparrow: there is no-one replying there, I think its something to do with the permissions or something, can you help?00:08
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Jack_Sparrowsoccer_hawk10: have you tried turning off effects?00:08
ozzloyhey, if you get jinxed, are you still allowed  to type?00:08
Jack_Sparrowvishal_: no.. sorry I cant help with v-anything00:09
Eagleraymaddash: interesting - it's loading, but seems to think there is no synaptics touchpad in this laptop00:09
ozzloybecause it's still talking, kinda00:09
osxdudeUh...um..uh sorry...about that...um amsg that was of no use...um...yeah...ok...thats enugh of that00:09
Eagleraymaddash: then it unloads the module again00:09
runemaste644ozzloy: i guess so00:09
eugene1ozzloy: well I'm pretty sure you are allowed to write stuff.00:09
soccer_hawk10Jack_Sparrow: well, the trouble with that is that i can't guess when these things will freeze00:09
soundraymular: what's a "my book premium"?00:09
michael_alexb0rsova: no dice.  with and without noapic+rghb in recovery mode, running /etc/init.d/gdm start or just startx turns the screen permanently black (and i can't get the error msgs because i'm in runlevel S.)00:09
Eagleraymaddash: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -i synaptic" was the command00:09
rsfriendshow do i get AWN on, and how?00:09
Jack_Sparrowsoccer_hawk10: Worth your time to turn it off and wait then..00:09
ozzloyrunemaste644: eugene1 thanks!00:09
vishal_can anybody help me assign an entire disk to a vmware machine please?00:09
maddashEagleray: then you ought to change your "Driver ' synaptics ' " entry00:09
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maddashEagleray: er, try grepping -i for shm00:10
soccer_hawk10Jack_Sparrow: well, the thing is, i never had trouble until i changed my screen resolution...00:10
mularsoundray: its an external hard drive ;)00:10
mularusb connect00:10
soccer_hawk10Jack_Sparrow: i don't know if that's what caused it or what... and i really love compiz, i'd kill me to remove it00:10
Eagleraymaddash: change to what, it's a synaptics touchpad00:11
Jack_Sparrowsoccer_hawk10: those "Cute Effects" can cause a multitude of problems...00:11
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soccer_hawk10Jack_Sparrow: do you use them?00:11
anathematichow do i go about removing apache2 off my ubuntu server?00:11
Eagleraymaddash: it's also complaining about the event device not existing (I don't have it compiled into this kernel), yet the touchpad works just fine00:11
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AceazzaAnyone get an aircard working with Gutsy?00:11
runemaste644how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko?00:11
Jack_Sparrowsoccer_hawk10: Then I cant help you.. turn off the effects long enough to see if that is the problem...   But I seem to remember looking at your sources page and you have installed things from outside the repos00:11
Eagleraymaddash: grepping for shm says it's loading fine and has no problems00:11
soundraymular: you can't influence the spindown timer on those with sdparm.00:12
soccer_hawk10Jack_Sparrow: i don't think you've seen my sources page since i've never posted it...00:12
bruce89anathematic: sudo aptitude remove apache2 surely00:12
AceazzaLooks like the device is recognized. I just don't know where to go after I plug it in.00:12
Jack_Sparrowsoccer_hawk10: Must have been a similar nick..00:12
nettow0822_ Does gusty nfs default to udp or tcp?00:12
mularread on google that people have? hrm00:12
anathematicbruce89: what if it was complied from source?00:12
mularjust they wanted the spin down lowered =/00:12
bruce89ah00:12
maddashEagleray: then your shmconfig is working and something else is wrong. if you're curious as to what driver you have, look in /sys/class/input/00:12
ddaddahey00:13
runemaste644how do i make xorg use nvidia_new.ko instead of nvidia.ko?00:13
ddaddaany1 asleep ?00:13
bruce89anathematic: sudo make uninstall00:13
ddaddaneed help :)00:13
hueyhow do i actually boot into the os00:13
Jack_Sparrowsoccer_hawk10: with tens of thousands of lines in here per day... I sometimes get confused..00:13
maddashrunemaste644: do a 'mv' switcheroo?00:13
anathematicbruce89: sorry, where do i preform t hat command?00:13
bruce89hopefully you still have the source00:13
soccer_hawk10Jack_Sparrow: don't sweat it, i know you're just trying to help00:13
maddashoh dear.00:13
spideymanhas anyone had any success with sonix sn9c325 chipset usb webcam?00:13
bruce89anathematic: in the apache2's source directory00:13
* nickrud thought sparrows had excellent eyesight00:14
runemaste644maddash: not a good idea00:14
michael_hi, running gdm turns the monitor permanently black, i can no longer switch to tty1.  can still ssh, etc.  anyone know how to get graphics running?00:14
soundraymular: the scheme is described in man hdparm. You probably want to set 24200:14
Eagleraymaddash: doesn't tell me - I have entries for input0...input7, mice, mouse0 and mouse100:14
maddashrunemaste644: because...?00:14
anathematicbruce89: so /etc/apache2/ right? (sorry not too familiar with this)00:14
Eagleraymaddash: but nothing to indicate which driver it's trying to use00:14
biouserdoes anyone know what .xpt file is and what I might be able to open it with?00:14
Jack_Sparrownickrud: but poor memory.. so it seems00:14
soundraymular: but like I said, I'd be surprised if it works...00:14
runemaste644it could really screw stuff up00:14
bruce89anathematic: I assume you installed it with sudo make install00:14
Stormx2michael_: Checked the xorg log?00:14
Ahmucki want to create a boot floppy to boot ubuntu JeOS00:14
maddashEagleray: because you're not looking hard enough. Hint: 'cat driver' in the subfolders.00:14
nickrudmichael_, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg for a default setup00:14
ddaddaI installed devilspie  . what i want to do is when i open the gnome terminal it should always open at workspace 2 ! but there is a prob ! it says Warning workspace number 2 does not exist !00:15
michael_Stormx2: where's it located, please?00:15
anathematicbruce89: yes but a while ago00:15
Flare183!grub | Ahmuck00:15
ubotuAhmuck: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:15
bruce89anathematic: and I assume you still have the apache2 source00:15
maddashrunemaste644: then stop trying to use nvidia_new.ko.00:15
anathematicbruce89: probably not00:15
bruce89anathematic: if not, it's probably not possible00:15
anathematic:<00:15
Eagleraymaddash: oh... I'm an idiot, I assumed they were files... *bashes head on nearest brick wall*00:15
AhmuckFlare183: i have not lost grub00:15
ddaddaany solution to my prob?00:15
anathematicthanks =)00:15
bruce89anathematic: unless you redownload it00:15
biouserhttp://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/major/nhanes/nhanes2005-2006/demo_d.xpt00:15
Ahmuckdoes ubuntu have a directory where you can write a boot image for install?00:15
Flare183grub:> you can make boot floppy for grub00:15
biouserI think that it is a SAS file00:15
runemaste644maddash: thats like saying "well then stop trying to get xorg to work"00:15
Stormx2michael_, /var/log/Xorg.0.log00:15
bruce89anathematic: I've hardly compiled from source though, so I don't really know00:15
maddashLjL: a rogue op?00:15
* Flare183 says sorry00:15
uttywhats a good program to convert my mp3s on my ipod to a supported file type00:16
soundrayddadda: maybe it's called "Desk 2". Right click the workspace switcher, select Preferences and check00:16
michael_nickrud: i just installed gutsy gibbon and have this problem (had to do alternate install) - would your command still be of use?00:16
nickrudmichael_, what video card?00:16
michael_Stormx2: cat Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)':00:16
ddaddasoundray i will thnx00:16
LjLmaddash: sorry, had to test something00:16
michael_Stormx2: (EE) intel(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (3)00:16
anathematicbruce89: it's no problem, i might just see if i can enable these modules not without compiling from source again00:16
nickrudmichael_, and to answer your question, probably not :)00:16
michael_Stormx2: (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable00:16
varsendaggerhey i downloaded the new sunbird calener from moz and it is a compiled binary... how do i install it so i can make a launcher...   i have a older version of sunbird installed allready sunbird installed allready...00:16
Stormx2michael_: This happened after you enabled restricted drivers I assume?00:16
maddashrunemaste644: that's like saying, "Don't expect to get anywhere without moving your legs."00:16
michael_nickrud: inherited this computer, has an aftermarket card probably for gaming (8 years ago), not sure what model or how to find out.00:16
Jack_Sparrowvarsendagger: I can help with that..00:17
Jack_Sparrowvarsendagger: one second please...00:17
Flare183I have no idea00:17
nickrudmichael_, lspci | grep -i vga should tell you something00:17
soundrayutty: mp3 is supported. You may have to install a codec for some programs to play mp3s.00:17
Eagleraymaddash: "2007-12-19 09:02 device -> ../../../../devices/platform/i8042/serio1" - I'm guessing that means it's using a serial driver?00:17
michael_Stormx2: no, i don't know what restricvted  drivers means.  I just installed with alternate CD since couldn't run graphical installer.00:17
Flare183!mp300:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:17
biouseranyone got any idea about .xpt?00:17
biouserhttp://www.cdc.gov/nchs/about/major/nhanes/nhanes2005-2006/demo_d.xpt00:17
Flare183biouser:> i have no idea00:17
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michael_nickrud: Thanks!  3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01)00:17
soundrayvarsendagger: probably put it in /usr/local/bin/00:17
maddashEagleray: did I tell you to 'cat device'? i meant 'cat driver'00:17
SonicChao!xp00:17
ubotuXP, or "eXtreme Programming" is a style of programming, for more information see: http://www.extremeprogramming.org/00:17
SonicChao!xpt00:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xpt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:17
nickrudmichael_, ah, I know that one well, ran it for several years.00:17
bruce89biouser: firefox extension surely00:17
kitchebiouser: I think it deals with firefox00:18
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Jack_Sparrowvarsendagger: HEre is how I did that..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48782/00:18
SonicChaoIsn't that XPI, bruce89 and kitche?00:18
uttyyeah i want to play them on rythembox00:18
biouserit is an 'open with?' link00:18
bruce89oop00:18
Stormx2michael_: what does restricted-manager -l show?00:18
ddaddastill nothing ! i dont know what to do ! :(00:18
maddashEagleray: oh, I did tell you to 'cat driver'. the "device -> ...." just means that 'device' is a symlink -- don't worry about that.00:18
varsendaggercool thanks00:18
uttygot xmms it works fine00:18
Eagleraymaddash: you did say driver, but I have no 'driver' entry00:18
Stormx2yuk, xmms00:18
Jack_Sparrowvarsendagger: Let me know if you get stuck00:18
Eagleraymaddash: and yeah I know it's a symlink, as it's a device I can00:19
ifireballmichael_: it seems that xorg trying to use a video mode that is unsuitable to your monitor00:19
Eagleraymaddash: 't cat it and get any useful info00:19
Flare183biouser:> see this: http://filext.com/file-extension/xpt00:19
bruce89that file seems to be a load of text00:19
soundrayddadda: maybe change the workspace names to something that doesn't contain spaces00:19
maddashEagleray: for instance, cat event*/device/driver/description00:19
nickrudmichael_,  sudo nano /etc/11/xorg.conf , find the section "Device" , and change Driver to "tdfx"00:19
michael_Stormx2: about 10 lines of what look like a python trace... important-sounding line is: GDK_IS_SCREEN(screen) failed00:19
biouserSAS.XportTransportFile.701 %ProgramFiles%\SAS\SAS9~1.1\CORE\SASEXE\SASOACT.EXE action00:19
bruce89some kind of database00:19
biouserthat is the one00:20
maddashEagleray: cat /sys/class/input/event*/device/driver/description00:20
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runemaste644i tried using 'nvidia_new' as the driver but it failed00:20
nickrudStormx2, the voodoo 3 is way too old for restricted manager00:20
Eagleraymaddash: possibly I'm being incredibly stupud here, but can you tell me *exactly* which file to cat (the touchpad is mouse0)00:20
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biouserI have SAS remotely through citrix, Flare18300:20
bruce89XP_PRO is one of the things in that file00:20
Eagleraymaddash: I don't have the event input type compiled into my kernel00:20
ddaddasoundray cant change the name of the workspaces00:20
Stormx2nickrud: I figured it might be too new, not up to speed with this.00:20
Flare183biouser:> wow00:20
kitchebiouser: try opening it up in openoffice00:20
michael_ifireball: thanks, how did you infer that? (so i can learn)00:20
Stormx2michael_, I really don't know, sorry00:20
maddashEagleray: oh, sorry. mouse0/device/driver/description, possibly?00:20
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michael_nickrud: made the change to that one line: do i need to reboot to try it out, since my screen is black on the computer?00:21
ifireballmichael_: experience :P00:21
soundrayddadda: why not?00:21
bruce89kitche: ain't going to work00:21
michael_Stormx2: thanks anyway for your help!00:21
michael_ifireball: eww :)00:21
ddaddachecked in preferences dont have anything except to put more or less collumns00:21
michael_nickrud: or can i just run startx from this ssh window and hope for the best?00:21
soundrayddadda: in the lower part of the dialog, does it say "Workspace names" and give you a list?00:21
Eagleraymaddash: much more like it ;-D - it's a PS/2 mouse driver according to that file00:21
maddashEagleray: the /sys directory makes for an interesting theme park with obvious filenames00:21
nickrudmichael_, run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart from ssh00:22
ddaddano00:22
michael_nickrud: doing now00:22
soundrayddadda: are you using dekstop effects?00:22
runemaste644and nv as the driver complains about a nonexistent tablet00:22
ddaddayes00:22
Eagleraymaddash: so I see... I don't normally have anything to do with /sys, have never really needed to go there before00:22
ifireballmichael_: essentially since non of the fallback mechanisms activates it means that xorg thinks everything is ok, because its not getting status from the screen correctly... you're using arather old CRT maybe?00:22
michael_nickrud: this caused my tty1 to suddenly show up!  and then every 2 seconds blink to black screen, then back again; about 5 times, then just showing the tty1 screen.00:22
michael_tty7 just has a blinking cursor.00:23
ddaddashould i try disabling them ?00:23
Eagleraymaddash: now that I know it's using a PS/2 driver, what exactly should I do with this info?00:23
ZPAnyone has any idea on how to recover (all or part of) the files in a reformated (fdisk), partially overwritten (8%), SATA disk ?00:23
nickrudmichael_, ok, next step is setting up your monitor for X correctly, I'll give you a link00:23
michael_ifireball: likely; it's an emachines that is similarly very old00:23
nickrud!fixres | michael_00:23
ubotumichael_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto00:23
michael_nickrud: thanks!00:23
soundrayddadda: in that case I can't help you. I'm not even sure devilspie is compatible with desktop effects.00:23
maddashEagleray: it's dubious that your touchpad is using the ps/2 driver. try another folder.00:23
ddaddaahm ok thnx anyway00:23
nickrudmichael_, you need to define the horizontal and vertical refresh rates. If you want 3d accel, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Voodoo3doesnotdo3d00:24
slugonehmm...how do i run a GUI program as Admin?00:24
slugoneroot00:24
DelvienAnyone running Feisty fawn here? i need something from your lists00:24
soundrayddadda: disabling effects is an option, of course00:24
michael_nickrud: thanks very much, i'll look at both links.00:24
Flare183!root | slugone00:24
ubotuslugone: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:24
ddaddaill try it  !00:24
ifireballmichael_: yeah the failsafe stuff in hardy is unfortunately not good with old hardware...00:24
Flare183!sudo | slugone00:24
ubotuslugone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.00:24
outofrangeHow do I configure ssh-askpass to run when I log into my Gnome session?00:24
Flare183sorry00:24
Eagleraymaddash: maddash only other mouse is mouse1, and that's registering as a USB HID device, which means it's the USB mouse I also have plugged in00:24
nickrudmichael_, it was a nice card in it's time, and will work great for you in 2d00:24
runemaste644how do i make it use nvidia new as the driver?00:25
michael_ifireball: i'm in gutsy, if it helps at all :D00:25
maddashslugone: try gksudo [gui cmd]00:25
DelvienNeed a user running feisty fawn pls00:25
Eagleraymaddash: so mouse0 has got to be the touchpad00:25
DelvienI need a pastebin of your sources.list00:25
maddashEagleray: ls -l /sys/class/input00:25
soundray!easysource | Delvien00:25
ubotuDelvien: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic00:25
ifireballmichael_: I meant gusty... my bad00:25
michael_all: thank you for your help and support - this channel is great!  i plan to donate my own time [once i get the $@*% system up] to helping others here.00:25
slugone10-4 soo when i make the launcher i type.......!root | Wireshark & ??????? or just !root | wireshark00:25
c-masterhello00:25
c-masterhow can i type "|" on ubuntu :(00:26
maddashslugone: geez. didn't you get my msg? gksudo.00:26
maddashslugone: gksudo wireshark00:26
slugoneloll i got 2 messages :P thx00:26
ddaddasoundray man thnks a lot00:26
soundrayc-master: do you have a non-US keyboard?00:26
ddaddathe problem was the effects00:26
ddadda;)00:26
ddaddau rock00:26
Eagleraymaddash: http://pastebin.org/1210500:26
kitchec-master: if you have a us standard keyboard it's by the enter key00:27
c-mastersoundray: i have00:27
c-masterUTF-800:27
Delviensoundray hope that has the file my friend needs, helping him install and get compiz running :P00:27
maddashEagleray: like I said, /sys is a theme park. go exploring in input*00:27
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ddaddagn00:27
soundrayc-master: I mean the keyboard layout00:27
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c-masterTR00:28
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TheMusicGuyWhy doesn't ubuntu have the arch command00:28
TheMusicGuy?00:28
c-masteri couldn't do "glxinfo | grep rendering"00:28
LjLTheMusicGuy: the what?00:28
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TheMusicGuythe "arch" command00:28
Flare183c-master:> why not00:28
TheMusicGuyXAMPP needs it00:28
Eagleraymaddash: have already done so - mouse0 is a symlink to input5. cat input5/name gives me "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad"00:29
slugoneWoOT U guys are Super Ultra Mega Moocho Grande HelpFull thanks00:29
Flare183c-master:> you have to do that in the terminal00:29
Eagleraymaddash: so I'd say it's a fair bet that mouse0 is in fact the touchpad00:29
maddashEagleray: congrats.00:29
mularits funny I am on google looking for a way to stop my drive from spinning down and theres website after website explaining how to prevent it from not spinning down =/00:29
c-masterFlare183:00:29
LjLTheMusicGuy: never heard of it honestly00:29
Eagleraymaddash: apologies for being a bit slow here00:29
c-masteri try but00:29
fabio_hi people00:29
daryl_hey guys, how do I disable compiz and enable metacity?00:29
ianmcorvidaeTheMusicGuy: It's equivalent to 'uname -m'00:29
mularhello00:29
c-masteri couldn't type on terminal00:29
V99_is_GIUSEPPEhi!00:29
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fabio_room emulator any one knows one better than xmame???00:30
c-masterin windows i use ctrl + alt + - keys00:30
TheMusicGuyIs it safe then to put a script in /usr/bin that runs uname -m?00:30
kitcheTheMusicGuy: I m pretty sure that is not a command00:30
LjLTheMusicGuy: better put it in /usr/local/bin00:30
Flare183daryl_:> metacity --replace00:30
Flare183c-master:> it's the "\" key00:30
daryl_Flare183, thats it?00:31
fabio_room emulator any one knows ??00:31
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ianmcorvidaeWhat's interesting is that I have that command on my feisty system; I'm wondering what provided it.00:31
Flare183daryl_:> yep00:31
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fabio_i want to plat jolly card00:31
ifireballTheMusicGuy: if it does so little you might wanna look into making it an alias00:31
nickrudmular, have you checked out hdparm -S option? Set to 0, I believe00:31
``..00:31
fabio_room emulator any one knows one better than xmame???00:31
anathematichow do i find out if apache2 was compiled from source or not on ubuntu server 7.04?00:31
Flare183c-master:> just press shift and then "\"00:31
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mularyeah hdparm doesn't work tells me invalid argument00:31
mularfrom what I read sdparm will work but I don't know how to read the timer00:32
TheMusicGuywhat would be the benefit of that over a script?00:32
soundraymular: try sdparm with 24200:32
Eagleraymaddash: so now that I know the touchpad is mouse0, what should I be doing to get shared mem working?00:32
TheMusicGuyother than one less file on my system :)00:32
maddashfabio_: firstly, the correct term is, "ROM," not, "room." secondly, posting repeatedly inside of two minutes won't help your situation.00:32
slugoneoh man if vista came with help like this lol............................................maybe it would only suck half as much00:32
PriceChildanathematic, it has to have been?00:32
livingdaylightanyone know how to restore Applications Menu?00:32
mularhow many minutes does that equal?00:32
PriceChildanathematic, binary's don't really just appear :/00:32
soundraymular: 6000:32
nickrudmular, sudo hdparm -S 0 /dev/hda worked just fine here00:33
Demonho-brhello, im sharing a folder , and when i try to open this shared folder Windows ask me for login, but i never typed any user name and password, what login could i try ?00:33
soccer_hawk10anybody know any eyecandy other than kibadock or avant?00:33
maddashEagleray: depends on whether there is a shm construct for your driver, and what you want to do with it.00:33
biouserSAS seems to be headlong against linux00:33
soccer_hawk10and of course, other than compiz/beryl00:33
slugonewindows?00:33
nickrudmular, oh, sata, never mind me then00:33
soundraynickrud: mular has an external USB disk00:33
ifireballlivingdaylight: restore from what?00:33
soccer_hawk10jack_sparrow: i think i figured it out00:33
nickrudsoundray, picked up on that. slowly00:33
Eagleraymaddash: I'm wanting to be able to mess with my touchpad settings without restarting Xoeg every time, using something like ksynaptics00:33
mularya that works on my internal drive00:33
livingdaylightifireball, i've broken it addring the geubuntu packages00:33
fabio_maddash: Thanks a lot -.-00:34
soundrayc-master: still trying...00:34
livingdaylightmy applications menu is empty now00:34
Eagleraymaddash: the synaptic driver does support shared memory00:34
soccer_hawk10Jack_Sparrow: in my xorg.conf i didn't have the option "aiglx" "true" in there under serverlayout00:34
Flare183soundray:> he can't find the | key on his laptoo00:34
Flare183latop00:34
Flare183laptop00:34
daryl_hey guys, how do I disable compiz and enable metacity? I removed all the compiz packages but now metacity doesn't launch when I start gnome00:34
soccer_hawk10daryl_: alt+f2 metacity --replace00:34
Eagleraymaddash: but as seen in the log before, for whatever reason Xorg is deciding that there is no synaptics touchpad and unloading the driver00:34
ifireballlivingdaylight: well, 1st you need to figure out if its broken just for your user or for the entire system, try making a new user and logging into it00:34
Flare183daryl_:> i told you00:34
c-mastersoundray:00:35
c-masteri try00:35
soccer_hawk10Flare183: what does the > do?00:35
ifireballTheMusicGuy: it can also work ever so slightly faster00:35
livingdaylightifireball, its entire system bro00:35
c-masterbut always showing / or \ not |00:35
Flare183nothing00:35
JosieCan anyone tell me how to mount smb shares?00:35
hueyim in text mode, whats the command to boot into the visual os00:35
daryl_Flare183, didn't work permenently00:35
soundrayc-master: hold down Ctrl-Alt, then press u c 700:35
ifireballlivingdaylight: you tested with another user?00:35
mularwell it didn't give me an error message00:35
Flare183daryl_: remove compiz00:35
Josielike I wanna mount \\server\share to \home\usr\share00:35
soundrayc-master: sorry, u 7 c00:36
daryl_Flare183, I did00:36
rgdhello00:36
Flare183weird00:36
maddashEagleray: I don't really know what to do if Xorg is haphazardly ignoring SHMConfig; let me see your xorg.conf00:36
ifireballlivingdaylight: have you got .desktop files in "/usr/share/applications/" ?00:36
Flare183daryl_: emerald too?00:36
TheMusicGuytrue, but I think I'll use a script anyway; their slightly easier to maintain00:36
TheMusicGuy*they're00:36
acetechi am attempting to install ubuntu on my machine with a 8600 GTS Nvidia video card.... Once X starts it will go to a blank screen.  Is there a paramater I need to pass for booting?00:37
c-mastersoundray: it effects as enter00:37
TheMusicGuyit worked...XAMPP isn't complaining anymore.00:37
TheMusicGuythanks! :D00:37
soundrayc-master: sorry, I made a mistake. It's Shift-Ctrl- u 7 c00:37
ifireballTheMusicGuy: your choice, but I think its a matter of taste, I rather have most such stuff concentrated in one .aliases file..00:37
daryl_Flare183, It launches metacity but when I kill X its disabled again00:37
JosieCan anyone help me with smb shares?00:37
Flare183daryl_: can't fix that00:37
varsendaggerOMG   i Created a symbolic link from  a file to /usr/bin/00:38
Flare183!samba00:38
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT00:38
anathematichow do i check which modules are enabled on apache2 for ubuntu server 7.04?00:38
Flare183!omg | varsendagger00:38
ubotuvarsendagger: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.00:38
FluxD!grub00:38
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:38
Eagleraymaddash: http://pastebin.org/1210700:38
livingdaylightifireball, /usr/share/application only has icons in it00:38
woxiguilin有会中文的吗00:38
Flare183!jp00:38
ubotu日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい00:38
varsendagger!!!   i Created a symbolic link from  a file to /usr/bin/00:38
varsendaggeris that bad00:39
c-mastersoundray: it ' s ok00:39
c-masterbut is not there any short cut00:39
doorknob60hey, i need help. My gnome won't start, just makes me glad I installed KDE a few days ago00:39
kitchevarsendagger: no not really just have to remember that you made that symlink :)00:39
Demonho-brFlannel, that is chinese00:39
acetechi am attempting to install ubuntu on my machine with a 8600 GTS Nvidia video card.... Once X starts it will go to a blank screen.  Is there a paramater I need to pass for booting?00:39
soundrayc-master: I think there is, but I wouldn't know where on a TR keyboard.00:40
c-masteri do shift + ctrl + (fn) + u 7 c00:40
varsendaggerkitche:  can i not delete that file?00:40
Flare183!tr00:40
c-masterfor only |`00:40
kitcheDemonho-br: Flannel hasn't said anything for hours :)00:40
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.00:40
Flare183try that00:40
Demonho-brFlare183,  that is chinese00:40
Demonho-brkitche, ;)00:40
kitchevarsendagger: well when you delete the file that symlink won't work anymore00:40
Flare183tr is ?00:40
olpc`oxlaptop mofo00:41
S4N3 /msg nickserv set unfiltered on00:41
olpc`tinykeys weeeeeeee00:41
soundrayc-master: maybe the people in #ubuntu-tr will know.00:41
c-mastersoundray:00:41
c-mastereverybody is sleeping now :D00:41
woxiguilin有会中文的吗00:41
c-masternow here is midnight :)00:41
Flare183better run00:42
AutoMatriXhi folks, does someone know here if it si possible to stick different resolutions to different destktops ?00:42
r4wMUnt34qcan anyone help me please ?00:42
Flare183c-master: it's 7:42 pm here00:42
Flare183!ask | r4wMUnt34q00:42
ubotur4wMUnt34q: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)00:42
Fyda!cn | woxiguilin00:42
ubotuwoxiguilin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk00:42
maddashEagleray: it looks fine00:42
FydaFlare183: That was not Japanese, that was Chinese :P00:42
maddashwhat about your Xorg.0.log?00:42
Flare183sorry00:42
Eagleraymaddash: hang on, I'll pastebin it00:43
maddashEagleray: before you do that, what happens wheen you run qsynaptics?00:43
ifireballAutoMatriX: you mean to different virtual desktops or to different screens?00:43
billeniumhow can i get the latest libc?00:44
c-master!ask | |00:44
ubotu|: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)00:44
c-master:p00:44
livingdaylightifireball, sorry00:44
AutoMatriXifireball, I mean having 640*800 on desktop 1, 1204*768 on desktop 2 and 1400*1050 on the third one00:44
livingdaylight/usr/share/applications doens't have .desktop00:45
Eagleraymaddash: http://pastebin.org/1210800:45
soundraybillenium: that question does not make sense on Ubuntu. Get a distribution that lets you be on the bleeding edge, like Debian Sid00:45
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AutoMatriXifireball, IRC, 2 is normal use and 3 is gps and other 'car' software00:45
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r4wMUnt34qSo, I was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable00:45
c-mastersoundray: what about paste's short cut :(00:45
j1solutionsall00:46
r4wMUnt34qi can login only by memorying what ive done and what i wrote00:46
j1solutionshello all00:46
Eagleraymaddash: if I run ksynaptics (iirc the same program as a kcm shell) it gives me an error telling me to add the SHMConfig line to Xorg.conf - which I have already done00:46
soundrayc-master: sorry?00:46
DILis elementary, but How do i view the content of a file from the terminal ?00:46
j1solutionshas anyone had really flaky intermittent connectivity with both a hardwireed NIC and wireless adaptor in gutsy on a compaq laptop?00:46
ifireballAutoMatriX: I don't think you can do that, closest thing I can think of is running several X servers on the same machine with different configs00:46
c-masterctrl +v = paste in windows what about in ubuntu00:46
soundrayDIL: cat file00:46
kitcheDIL: either with cat or a n editor00:46
DILthanks00:46
j1solutionsi'm hearing of issues with network-manager00:47
soundrayc-master: use the middle mouse button00:47
ifireballlivingdaylight: I meant files with a .desktop extension00:47
biouserI am going to try to wine MS IE unfortunately00:47
r4wMUnt34qso my question is, can I set resolution or something related to it in recovery mode as root ?00:47
nettow0822_Does gusty nfs version 3 default to tcp?00:47
soundray!ies4linux | biouser00:47
ubotubiouser: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!00:47
sysdefr4wMUnt34q: are you sure you don't typed your password into the nickname field?00:47
michael_Hi again, bad news - the screenres fixes still didn't get graphics up and running.  each restart of gdm still leaves the Alt-F7 screen with a blinking cursor.00:47
AutoMatriXifireball, that's somethng worth to check, but how does one swhitch servers ??? with a shortuct ?00:48
michael_at which i'm able to type, to no effect.00:48
kitchewow ion3 is a very old version00:48
soundraymichael_: try Alt-F900:48
biousersoundray, biouser@biouser-laptop:~/ies4linux-2.99.0$ ./ies4linux00:48
biouserYou need to install cabextract first!00:48
biouserDownload it here: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php00:48
michael_the latest xorg log had an error that no screen with appropriate settings could be found.00:48
soundraybiouser: 'sudo apt-get install cabextract'00:48
michael_soundray: alt-f9 had the last two bootup OKs on it - Battery and one other.00:48
r4wMUnt34qsysdef: No, I logged in, my background changed00:48
zerovsioni'm trying to install the tundradraw ansi editor in ubuntu gutsy but when i type sudo dpkg --install tundradraw-0.5b1-1_i386.deb i get the error cannot access archive: No such file or directory, is there a software source i need to add somewhere?00:48
Flare183!paste | biouser00:48
michael_soundray: no i take that back, that was F800:48
ubotubiouser: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)00:48
michael_soundray: F9 was blank.00:48
qu1et_ubuHello00:48
Netham45http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200185464950 < is this good RAM?00:48
biousersoundray, thanks man00:48
sysdefr4wMUnt34q: kk ;)00:49
ifireballAutoMatriX: essentially you run them on different virtual terminals, so you switch with ctrl+alt+fX00:49
biouserFlare183, ok00:49
soundraymichael_: sorry, was worth a try00:49
Flare183no problem00:49
Josiesmb4K is so much easier than editing fstab. I highly suggest that for anyone who wants to mount smb shares00:49
michael_soundray: sure, np00:49
RancidLMhow would i disable mouseemu from start up its in /etc/init.d   is there a way to disable it so i have to start it manually?00:49
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kitche!offtopic | Netham4500:49
ubotuNetham45: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!00:49
Netham45=/00:49
Netham45sorry...00:49
Doricoo00:49
r4wMUnt34qsysdef: i made a topic in the forum where it is more explained00:49
AutoMatriXifireball, that's not gonna to be easy with a stylus on a tablet-pc00:49
Eagleraymaddash: have just installed and tried qsynaptics, and it tells me to enable SHMConfig in Xorg.conf and install the synaptics driver00:49
michael_the specific error is: '(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.00:49
michael_'00:49
livingdaylightifireball, sorry, i don't see any(had another look)00:49
Eagleraymaddash: however clearly the synaptics driver is already installed (as Xorg is loading it) and SHMConfig is already enabled in Xorg.conf00:50
qu1et_ubuFirst time ubuntu user here...00:50
michael_oh, and still: (EE) VESO(0): V_BIOS address 0x56a0 out of range00:50
r4wMUnt34qsysdef: Im glad I have a dualboot with XP, because by now my NTBK would be useless, though I like ubuntu a lot more00:50
qu1et_ubu...having trouble getting my installation to connect to the internet00:50
michael_anybody got ideas?00:50
ifireballlivingdaylight: you looking with a terminal or with some gui? (I gotta ask...)00:50
qu1et_ubuI checked the help documentation, and ifconfig eth1 fails00:51
ifireballAutoMatriX: indeed...00:51
silvertip257When using qemu to test a CD image, I get this message:  Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated00:51
r4wMUnt34qI was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable. My question is, if I can do it as root in recovery mode somehow or I need to reinstall ubuntu :(00:51
livingdaylightifireball, with some gui00:51
qu1et_ububut ifconfig eth0 worked00:51
AutoMatriXifireball, thanks for ideas, anyway, it did no harm :D00:52
ifireballlivingdaylight: do it with the terminal: "ls /usr/share/applications"00:52
michael_ifireball: any other ideas for attacking my graphics issues, since the fixres documents didn't work?00:52
maddashEagleray: you compiled your kernel without events, right? does that mean that lsmod|grep evdev gives nothing?00:52
maddashEagleray: because I think you might need the evdev module00:52
vishal_hi, how do i add myself to the disk group?00:53
ifireballmichael_: do you have your screen's documentation by any chance?00:53
Eagleraymaddash: maddash I don't use modules - the only module loaded is the nvidia one, everything else is compiled into the kernel00:53
Eagleraymaddash: isis:/sys/class/input/input5# lsmod00:53
EaglerayModule                  Size  Used by00:53
Eagleraynvidia               7005796  2600:53
biouserui/pygtk/python-gtk.sh: line 6:  6761 Aborted00:53
michael_ifireball: nope, except that it's an eMachines eView 15w200:53
livingdaylightifireball, oh, yea! lots!00:53
qu1et_ubuhmmmmm....  Anyone interested in helping out a newbie?00:53
aehgtswhat can we do for you?00:53
r4wMUnt34qI was trying data projector. Then I tried different resolutions and tried to setup a secondary screen, but it always changed my primary also. And since I once restarted my pc, after ubuntu loads, the login screen and everything after is unreadable00:54
maddashEagleray: wow.00:54
Eagleraymaddash: I'll try recompiling with the events interface added, and see if that helps00:54
maddashEagleray: why do you do that?00:54
qu1et_ubuhaving trouble connecting to the internet00:54
vishal_can someone help please, how do i add myself to the disk group?00:54
Eagleraymaddash: I do it for speed and convenience00:54
ifireballlivingdaylight: as it should be, then its not what I thought...00:54
michael_qu1et_ubu: i'll try my best, any details?00:54
sub[t]rnlvishal_: sudo addgroup username groupname00:54
livingdaylightifireball, does that mean you can't help me restore Applications menu?00:55
qu1et_ubumichael - ifconfig eth1 fails00:55
Sparkizzyi downloaded and burned a ubuntu image. when i boot from it i get installation options, but i don't want to install it (yet). how can i use it without installing?00:55
vishal_sub[t]rnl: ty00:55
Eagleraymaddash: as I am starting from allnoconfig anyway, I may as well compile them in and avoid the overhead of module communication00:55
qu1et_ubumichael - but ifconfig eth0 works00:55
qu1et_ubumichael - ping fails00:55
michael_qu1et_ubu: do you have a second card?  or a wireless?00:55
qu1et_ubuno, just one card00:55
Eagleraymaddash: current kernel is vanilla 2.6.24-rc5, configured for this laptop from an allnoconfig00:55
ifireballmichael_: I think what you need to do is adjust the "Horizsync" and "Vertrefresh" in xorg.conf, try websearching to see what they need to be for your monitor00:55
r4wMUnt34qSparkizzy: Click on Run or install or whatever the first option is00:56
bastianHello00:56
r4wMUnt34qthe system will load into your RAM00:56
bastianShort question00:56
Sparkizzyah00:56
ifireballmichael_: or you can do some trial and error, lowering the values00:56
bastiani added a new partition in /etc/fstab00:56
michael_ifireball: i tried this (it was in the help.ubuntu.org/community/video-problems page.00:56
Eagleraymaddash: anything else you suggest I add, seeing as I'm recompiling with event anyway?00:56
Sparkizzykthnx r4wMUnt34q00:56
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michael_ifireball: no difference.  also tried all the other suggestions on that page.00:56
vishal_sub[t]rnl: do you know why i get permission denied on this : dd if=/dev/sdb of=windowsxp.mbr bs=512 count=6300:56
bastianNow i've got autmatically an Icon on my desk00:56
r4wMUnt34qyou can install it when it is loaded if you want00:56
bastianhow can i prevent this00:56
maddashEagleray: nope.00:56
livingdaylightifireball, is that a no?00:57
michael_qu1et_ubu: that is, what does eth1 represent that you're trying to get up?00:57
r4wMUnt34qnp00:57
ifireballmichael_: did that page also tell you how to disable the EDID registers?00:57
michael_ifireball: hmm, don't recall that, let me go look00:57
ifireballlivingdaylight: well, not without some research, I'm afraid I can't do it currently00:57
Eagleraymaddash: then I'll be back in 15-20 mins or so after recompile/reboot and recompiling the nvidia module00:57
aehgtsbastian: the icon usually appears when you don't have an entry in fstab. For me, once I added my partitions in and restarted the icons were gone.00:57
livingdaylightifireball, ok00:57
qu1et_ubumichael - The only reason I tried eth1, is b/c that's what the help documentation suggested00:57
bastiank, i'll try another restart thanks00:58
michael_ifireball: the only mention of edid on that page is when dealing with nvidia drivers which i'm not using - Option "UseEdidFreqs" False00:58
michael_qu1et_ubu: but you said eth0 works, correct?  can you get to the internet via eth0?00:58
qu1et_ubumichael - When that failed, I decided the try eth0 to see what happened00:58
aehgtsbastian: try ctrl-alt-backspace to restart gnome first00:58
qu1et_ubumichael - How do I configure linux to use eth0 ?00:59
ifireballmichael_: try that, I think it may be ignoring the manual "Horizsync" and "Vertrefresh" if EDID values are available00:59
aehgtsbastian: that'll log you out too though00:59
qu1et_ubuargh (phone)00:59
michael_qu1et_ubu: sorry, i thought that you had said that eth0 worked fine.  i don't know how to manually tell it what name to use for your network card.00:59
ifireballmichael_: also, try commenting out and ModeLines...00:59
woxiguilin Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend!00:59
woxiguilin Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend!00:59
pike_qu1et_ubu: gksu gedit /etc/mtab  perhaps00:59
woxiguilin Hello! I come from China! Makes a friend!01:00
Flare183!repeat | woxiguilin01:00
ubotuwoxiguilin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:00
michael_ifireball: do i use UseEdid, or UseEdidFreq, or something else?01:00
livingdaylightanyone help fix my Applicataions Menu?01:00
pike_qu1et_ubu: wait01:00
r4wMUnt34qNow, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on.01:00
bastianok01:00
ifireballmichael_: try setting useEdid to false01:00
SpookyETHas anyone used fuse with sshfs or fusesmb? Is it supposed to be ungodly slow?01:00
woxiguilinOK01:01
r4wMUnt34qNow, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the terminal ?01:01
michael_ifireball: just to make sure - my HorizSync and VertRefresh settings were added to the "MOnitor" section, but I should put "UseEdid false" into the "Screen" section - right?01:01
AquilaiI've accidentally mucked up my graphics driver thing so now I can only use the text interface instead of gnome gui.  The internet is also not connected in the CLI. How do I get that to connect?01:02
AquilaiI might need it to install my graphics driver again01:02
gribouillehi01:02
michael_Aquilai: does "sudo ifup eth0" work?01:02
gribouilledoes ubuntu use NetworkManager ?01:03
AquilaiI haven't tried because I'm new to linux :/01:03
ifireballmichael_: I think you put it in your device section, also comment out the "Option "DPMS"" line01:03
Aquilaibut presumably that's to connect to my network card then01:03
michael_Aquilai: no problem, try it and then type "ifconfig" and see if eth0 says UP or DOWN in its pile of information01:03
livingdaylightDoes someone know how to fix Applications Menu?01:03
fsckris OSS better than ALSA?  I have never used OSS01:03
michael_Aquilai: yes, sudo means "run this as root (administrator)", ifup means "turn on this interface", and "eth0" is usually the name of your wired internet card.01:03
gribouilledoes ubuntu use NetworkManager ?01:04
michael_ifireball: will put it in Device section; I saw nothing about ModeLines, which you mentioned above; and I'll comment out DPMS as well.01:04
Aquilaiokay cheers. also is there a text based IRC so that once I get the net working I can still ask for help?01:04
dadehooglivingdaylight: what's wrong with the Applications menu ?01:04
livingdaylightdadehoog, its empty01:04
Fjodorfsckr: OSS belong to the olden days. ALSA is it's successor01:05
ifireballmichael_: you don't have any "ModeLine" lines in your xorg.conf?01:05
dadehooglivingdaylight: what is in System->Preferences->Main Menu ?01:05
SonicChao!alsa01:05
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:05
livingdaylightdadehoog, i was messing with geubuntu; added the packages but it didn't work out. coming back to gnome i find Applications Menu empty01:05
michael_ifireball: correct.01:05
DigitalNinjais there an easy way to download youtube videos?01:05
Aquilaiokay I'll just give it a try01:06
ifireballmichael_: well, one less thing to worry about... ;)01:06
michael_ifireball: with DPMS commented out and UseEdid=false in "Device" section, I restarted gdm; and now Alt-F7 gives me a blinking cursor instead of giving me nothing at all.01:06
fsckri think sound support is the only thing lacking in linux these days. You just about have to pull teeth in order to get 5.1 working and if you get it working its not true 5.1 :_01:06
michael_[nothing at all = refusing to switch from whatever tty i'm currently at.]01:06
livingdaylightdadehoog, like nothing01:06
FjodorDigitalNinja: Try freshmeat.net. Look for youtube-dl01:06
dadehooglivingdaylight: ok, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" - that should put your system back to what it was when you first installed it01:06
DigitalNinjaFjodor: got it01:06
michael_ifireball: '(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration'01:07
dadehoogany new programs/config that you've done should be retained, but you'll have all the default stuff back again too01:07
mallockilxI have a server that just ran out of memmory. I have console access through a kvm, but i can't turn off the power reset it. What can I do? I have tried ctr-alt-delete a million times while it complains about having run out of memmory..01:07
liquidfirewohoo, finnaly i got oracle xe and oracle sql dev running o/01:07
michael_ifireball: even more helpful: '(WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:11:0) found'01:07
livingdaylightdadehoog, this is what it looks like http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotgp8.png01:07
ifireballmichael_: hmm... can you paste the whole file to pastebin01:07
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dadehooglivingdaylight: what is alacarte-made ?01:08
michael_ifireball: sorry, what's pastebin?  and, do you mean the Xorg log or xorg.conf?01:08
livingdaylightdadehoog, no idea01:08
ifireballmichael_: log01:08
NetLarIrvineI am on Ubuntu website, it says that requirments for Ubuntu desktop is 256 mg ram, that is right?01:08
ifireball!pastebin | michael_01:08
ubotumichael_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:08
NetLarIrvinehttp://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition01:08
biouserThe program 'ies4linux-gtk.py' received an X Window System error.01:08
TeslaDaveI have a question, I was hoping someone can help me, its with regard to ssh and X forwarding, but using a windows X client and accessing from windows (32bit) my (64bit) ubuntu Gusty machine01:08
biouserdo y'all think it will still work?01:08
Amaranthdadehoog: it means alacarte made it but someone removed the metadata for it that shows the real name01:08
qu1et_ubumichael, pike -- OK, I'm back01:09
dadehooglivingdaylight, Amaranth, indeed01:09
r4wMUnt34qNow, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the terminal ?01:09
jack_what is the best program to copy dvds?01:09
qu1et_ubuI'm probably not understanding correctly:01:09
techqbertmy power supply only has two SATA connectors.  how mcuh do more adapters cost?01:09
michael_qu1et_ubu: work with pike, please - i'm attacking my own prob at the minute (and probably not able to help you anyway :( )01:09
pike_qu1et_ubu: i dont know where that config file went in gutsy if youre in feisty you should be able to edit it to associate mac with device01:09
livingdaylightdadehoog, anyway to restore to default?01:09
dadehooglivingdaylight: as I suggested above, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" - that should bring the menu back to the default arrangement01:09
r4wMUnt34qNow, when Ubuntu is done loading, the logging screen has a unreadabla graphics, I cant recognize my mouse, only the vertical position, and I can log in, but I still cant recognize whats on the screen without remembering what I have done and so on. Is it repairable in the recovery mode ?01:09
Fjodorjack_: dd01:09
ifireballmichael_: also if you have "busid" line in your "Device" section you can disable it (assuming you only have one gfx card) and make sure you got the right driver01:10
livingdaylightdadehoog, ok, did that but it hasn't01:10
livingdaylightdadehoog, do i need to reboot?01:10
dadehooglivingdaylight: log out, and log in again01:10
jack_Fjodor: thanks :)01:10
livingdaylightdadehoog, Places and System is fine - its just the Applications Menu01:10
qu1et_ubupike_ OK01:10
TeslaDaveI am having problems getting X to forward to my windows machine when using a X client01:10
michael_ifireball: there's the old video card which seems to do nothing, even in win98 which i blew away, and then the new voodoo card... not sure if this matters.01:10
dadehooglivingdaylight: log out and log in again01:10
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michael_ifireball: no idea how to check if i have the right driver; all i know is that "intel" didn't work, but "tdfx" at least gives me a cursor!01:11
Fjodorjack_: dd if=/dev/dvd of=some-file-name.iso bs=819201:11
fairhonanthhey guys01:11
drew_chicagoanyone know of a easier way to whitelist senders in Evolution using spamassassin?01:11
fairhonanthwhat's01:11
fairhonanthup01:11
fairhonanth????01:11
livingdaylightAmaranth, i tried geubuntu but had troubles with applications menu in it and they at #geubuntu tried to help me and must have in the process removed the metadata01:11
ifireballmichael_: no that cursor is no good, it means X isn't loading01:11
dadehoogdrew_chicago: how are you doing it at the moment ?01:11
qu1et_ubupike_ Just to be clear:  ifconfig eth0 does work ... but apparently my network connection is configured to use eth101:11
drew_chicagodadehoog, I edit the userprefs01:11
michael_ifireball: i've commented out the BusID line.  What driver do you recommend I use, if not tdfx?01:11
michael_ifireball: or how to find out what to use?01:12
pike_qu1et_ubu: well you can change that by gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces01:12
qu1et_ubuok cool01:12
dadehoogdrew_chicago: "Mark as Junk" not linked to spamassassin ?01:12
pike_qu1et_ubu: or in the gui but im not familiar with it01:12
qu1et_ubuThanks!01:12
_wretchedThe title bars are ultra small and I can barely hit the 'close' or 'maximize' buttons, how do I change the size in gnome?01:12
pike_np01:12
qu1et_ubuI prefer command line01:12
ifireballfind the card you want to use with lspci, make sure the numbers in the beginning of the ones are the same as in the busid line, don't comment it01:13
liquidfireewhatś the command to see the channel list with x-chat01:13
liquidfiree?01:13
dadehoogdrew_chicago: you've got the Evolution spamassassin plug-in installed ?01:13
drew_chicagodadehoog, I have been marking them as Not Junk and it moves that one email to the infolder but next time I get another from that sender it goes to junk01:13
drew_chicagodadehoog, I do believe I have the plugin installed01:14
dadehoogdrew_chicago: ok, so spamassassin isn't learning from your input ?01:14
ifireballmichael_:  find the card you want to use with lspci, make sure the numbers in the beginning of the ones are the same as in the busid line, don't comment it01:14
drew_chicagodadehoog, right it doesn't learn01:14
ifireballmichael_: if its is a 3dfx card then you should use the tdfx driver, not sure the vesa driver will even work with it01:15
DIL!less01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about less - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:15
michael_ifireball: ah, i get you.  ok, lspci shows 2 cards, and the important one is 01:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01).01:15
michael_so i should have BusID "01:0b.0" under "Device"?01:15
ifireballmichael_: I think so01:15
ifireballmichael_: w801:15
michael_ifireball: or rather, PCI:01:0b.0 i'd guess01:15
livingdaylightdadehoog, no cigar01:16
michael_ifireball: waiting01:16
ifireballmichael_: yeah the 2nd one01:16
dadehooglivingdaylight: sorry, no more ideas from me ...01:16
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michael_ifireball: ok, now trying gdm restart01:16
gribouilledoes anyone know anything about NetworkManager ?01:16
livingdaylightAnyone else got any ideas on how to fix Applications Menu01:16
dadehoogdrew_chicago: ok, seems that evolution spam filtering is less than perfect ... quite a few bugs reported, I'm just having a look at them in Launchpad01:17
livingdaylightAmaranth, you seemed to know what is up01:17
fenrishi01:17
michael_ifireball: i'm not getting any movement on Alt-F7 or F9, except for 1 short blackout followed by returning to the old blinking cursor screen.01:17
michael_ifireball: (after doing a gdm restart)01:17
michael_ifireball: anyway, now trying to figure out how to copy text into paste.ubuntu-nl.org from a Cygwin sshd window :)01:17
ifireballmichael_: take a look in the log file again, also paste it please01:17
drew_chicagodadehoog, I also can't find ANY gui interface for spamassassin. I know the plugin is installed but the configure button doesn't do anything01:18
ifireballmichael_: you might wanna try putty01:18
michael_ifireball: yes, thanks01:18
michael_ifireball: don't have it on this machine because cygwin feels even more like linux :)01:18
dadehoogdrew_chicago: could you try closing Evolution, then opening a terminal, and running "evolution" ? That way we'll get some extra information about what is and isn't happening ?01:18
drew_chicagodadehoog, will do01:19
ifireballmichael_: it doesn't mean you need to suffer that silly featureless cmd window... run an xterm in cygwin maybe?01:19
gribouillehey, are you sleeping or what ?01:19
drew_chicagodadehoog, ok I started it from terminal01:19
dadehoogdadehoog: okeydoke, now try an set something as Junk or Not Junk ... is there anything in the terminal ?01:20
michael_ifireball: ooh, that's a thought... although don't i have to have X running on my linux box in order to attach a remote xterm to it?01:20
ifireballmichael_: iv you've got cygwin you can run X on windows...01:21
michael_ifireball: oh sweet, i had no idea.01:21
michael_ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48790/01:21
Eaglerayifireball: XMing is a better solution though - it runs faster, and you don't need cygwin installed for it01:21
HoNgOuRuhi01:22
dadehoogdrew_chicago: okeydoke, now try an set something as Junk or Not Junk ... is there anything in the terminal ? Also, try and use the "configure" button for spamassassin ?01:22
michael_ifireball: holy crap, X was just two keystrokes away and i hadn't known :)01:22
drew_chicagodadehoog, ok hold on01:22
livingdaylightAnyone know how to fix an Applications Menu?01:22
ifireballEagleray: no argument, but he already has cygwin...01:22
biouseris IE 6 in the XP era?01:23
dorwardvi have a bluetooth network adapter, a wireless network adapter and a PCI netword adapter.  each of these adapters connect to different network with different privileges, some websites are block when using one but not on the others, is there anyway to choose which connection i would like to be active without disabling other devices?01:23
michael_ifireball: i assume you saw the URL pasted for my Xorg.0.log output01:23
HoNgOuRuI am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found?????01:23
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HoNgOuRuI did chroot /media/ubuntu01:24
michael_biouser: yep01:24
drew_chicagodadehoog, first I flagged an amazon email as junk terminal posted "report junk?? Amazon.com"01:24
HoNgOuRuplseas help01:24
ifireballmichael_: yeah, it seems you're still using "vesa"01:24
dadehoogdrew_chicago: ok, that _sounds_ good ... but ..?01:24
HoNgOuRuI am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found?????01:25
HoNgOuRuplseas help01:25
drew_chicagodadehoog, next I tried configure the spamassassin plugin and that didn't do anything01:25
dadehoogdrew_chicago: right, nothing on the terminal at all ?01:25
fenrisi am trying to configure wlan on my new gutsy install, but i dont get any connection, and it keeps deleting my network key from the configuration dialog, whats wrong?01:25
HoNgOuRuneither sda or hda ---.....help please01:25
ifireballmichael_: lets do some cleanup, make sure you don't have any gdm org X processes running, then delete the logfile and try again01:25
drew_chicagoright nothing about the configure attempt in terminal at all01:25
michael_ifireball: got it01:25
HoNgOuRuI am reinstalling grub from the live cd, why is that when doing "grub-install /dev/sda" sda is not found?????01:25
drew_chicagodadehoog right nothing about the configure attempt in terminal at all01:25
livingdaylightCan someone give me their applications.menu in  /etc/xdg/menus please?01:26
HoNgOuRuneither sda or hda ---.....help please01:26
ifireballmichael_: e.g. gdm _or_ X processes01:26
dadehoogdrew_chicago: odd, hang on I'm just installing spamassassin here ...01:26
michael_ifireball: can i just do a ps gax | grep -i x, and look for things suspicious?01:26
michael_ifireball: or is there a better was?01:26
biousermichael_, I am having to do wine -age to do some things for work without using windows itself.... so i was wondering: if i am wine-ing IE6 I should get the XP version of plug-ins01:26
dadehoogdrew_chicago: does evolution report "Loading Spamassasin as the default junk plugin" when it is first started ?01:26
biouser?01:27
ifireballmichael_: thats ok, I use ps -ef though, but thats just an old IRIX habit...01:27
michael_biouser: sorry, out of my depth.  haven't used wine in years.01:27
drew_chicagodadehoog, never noticed that01:27
livingdaylightcan someone cd and tellme what their /etc/xdg/menus holds?01:27
abstraktI'm getting /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) when trying to boot this Vostro 1500 with Ubuntu Feisty 7.x01:27
michael_ifireball: ok, i did /etc/init.d/gdm stop and ther seems to be nothing related to gdm or x in ps.  now cleaning the log.01:27
abstraktwhat gives?01:27
livingdaylightmy /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu  gnomecc.menu  gnome-screensavers.menu  kde-applications.menu  preferences.menu  settings.menu01:27
livingdaylightcan someone tell me what i am missing and what is surplus?01:28
dadehoogdrew_chicago: ok, close evolution and re-open it (through the terminal again) and check that the message about SpamAssassin is there ...01:28
drew_chicagodadehoog, ok just restarted Evolution and yes it mentiions starting spamassassin01:28
michael_ifireball: log's clean, now running /etc/init.d/gdm start01:28
dadehoogdrew_chicago: good - 1 sec01:28
ifireballmichael_: it it still doesn't work paste both the log and the xorg.conf files please01:29
michael_ifireball: didn't work, will do.  thanks so much for the cycles you're putting into this!01:29
_3mend0re all01:29
EdwardXPI really wan to figure out how to detect my own devices,01:30
EdwardXPand update drivers on ubuntu01:30
ifireballmichael_: I just can't help thinking its one tiny thing we're missing here01:30
MasterShrekEdwardXP: what hardware? most, if not all, should be auto-detected01:30
dadehoogdrew_chicago: ok, I've tracked the issue down to a bug report ... it would appear that the Evolution plug-in isn't able to alter the spamassassin whitelist01:31
dadehoogdrew_chicago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution/+bug/17243401:31
michael_ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48792/ is error log01:31
dadehoogdrew_chicago: but ultimately, it's an issue with Evolution, which the GNOME developers are working on ...01:31
_3mend0sorry, doesn anybody knows how to restar sun java ?? I can't run mercury ... return the follow error: " axel@axel-laptop:~$ mercury01:31
_3mend0Mercury does not run on Blackdown Java.01:31
_3mend0Please, make sure to have the Sun Java version 1.5 or later installed.01:31
_3mend0axel@axel-laptop:~$01:31
_3mend0"01:31
_3mend0what I can do ?01:31
drew_chicagodadehoog, ok so not much I can do then but keep editing the whitelist manually01:31
ader10Does anybody know how to install a current partition of windows on virtual box?01:31
livingdaylightCan someone help me with applications menu please!?01:31
michael_ifireball: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48793/ is xorg.conf01:31
livingdaylightdadehoog, can you tell me what you have in /etc/xdg/menus?01:32
michael_ifireball: i sure would love it if it were one tiny thing.  yessir.01:32
drew_chicagodadehoog, thanks for your help01:32
Soskelhello01:32
_3mend0!mercury sun-java01:32
livingdaylightmy /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu  gnomecc.menu  gnome-screensavers.menu  kde-applications.menu  preferences.menu  settings.menu01:32
dadehoogdrew_chicago: pretty much ... it may be possible to convince Evolution to output a list of your address book in the format required for spamassassin ....01:33
ProN00bcan ubuntu feisty (64bit) write to hfs+ ?01:33
backgenis it me or is facebook a lot slower on gibbon with firefox?01:33
dadehoogdrew_chicago: no worries - hope it helped ..01:33
drew_chicagodadehoog, thats a good idea. I'll investigate that. it'll save me some typing if nothing else01:34
livingdaylightdadehoog, can you help me bro?01:34
gribouilledoes anyone know anything about NetworkManager ?01:34
alex__hello... I need some help installing Ubuntu jeos 7.10 on vmware 601:34
backgenok so i know that windows is good for games...macs are good for video editing and graphics design...what is linux famous for?01:34
dadehooglivingdaylight: I've done what I can ...01:34
ader10Does anybody know how to install a current partition of windows on virtual box?01:34
winkmanbackgen: being free01:34
atoponceProN00b: yes, if you don't use journaling01:35
dadehooglivingdaylight: sorry01:35
livingdaylightbackgen, it is good for surfing the web01:35
atoponceiirc01:35
backgenlol01:35
EdwardXPwhats the command to see your open ports again?01:35
livingdaylightdadehoog, ok, then just continue to ignore me01:35
kelsinbackgen: those are all stereotypes that are rapidly changing01:35
livingdaylightdadehoog, seriously, you can't tell me what you have in /etc/xdg/menus?01:35
EdwardXPim tryin gto find out which port to allow in the router01:35
alex__Linux is famous for being good at anything and everything at the same time01:35
abstraktbackgen: yeah none of those stereotypes are really true any more01:35
Eyemeanhi does any one know why some fonts dont print properly in ubuntu01:35
ifireballmichael_: almost there: "PCI:*(1:11:0) 3Dfx Interactive, Inc..." so it seems you need to use decimal in xorg.conf rather then hex...01:35
ProN00batoponce, how do i turn that off ?01:36
brent1I need help getting ubuntu to work with my wiriless and ethernet cards01:36
Batma8is it normal to have a slight vertical tearing when you use your cube?01:36
ifireballmichael_:  so it should be BusID"PCI:01:11:0"01:36
atoponceProN00b: just mount the fs as hfs and not hfs+01:36
abstraktbackgen: the "stereotype" for linux though is being "good at running servers"01:36
ProN00batoponce, -t hfs ?01:36
backgenis there a kind of manual for ubuntu gutsy gibbon?01:36
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abstraktbackgen: the whole "macs are good for graphics/audio/video" is bullshit though01:36
alex__Excuse me, again: Linux is famous for being good at everything and nothing at the same time01:36
MasterShrekbackgen: ubuntuguide.org01:36
michael_ifireball: ok, i'm willing to try it :)01:36
abstraktbackgen: "windows is good for games" has a little merit though01:36
alex__ok...01:36
alex__anyone here has experience with Ubuntu 7.10 JeOS?01:37
cr4how do I surf in my share folder with nfs ?01:37
kelsinbackgen: there is an official ubuntu book that canical publishes. There is also many websites, and of course since ubuntu is made up of all open source software, the websites and books and manuals of the pieces of the system01:37
atoponceProN00b: yes. actually, it looks like 'hfsplus' is supported, so give that a try01:37
michael_ifireball: note that i had used PCI:01:0b.0, with a dot, not :0 with a colon.  shoudl i in fact use a colon?01:37
livingdaylightabstrakt, macs are excellent at video and graphics stuff, that's no bs01:37
Eyemeanthe lucida handwritng fonts just looks normal in openoffce01:37
brent1I have a dell inspiron 6000 and installed ubuntu onto it....sadly it refuses to use my wireless card and my ethernet port01:37
brent1any ideas?01:37
rewtorare there any "upgrades" to apps in LTS?01:37
ifireballmichael_: I think so01:37
winkmanbackgen: the official ubuntu book is very good, it's sitting right next to me... and will get you on your feet in no time!01:37
ProN00bdoes the live cd have any kinds of hard restrictions on writing to disks ?01:37
kelsinabstrakt: that's only cause developers love DirectX, if more games were programmed properly (like wow, warcraftIII, quake, unreal) linux would be more popular01:37
atoponceProN00b: nope. it's full fledged01:38
livingdaylightifireball, couldn't you check your /etc/xdg/menus?01:38
ProN00batoponce, well, if hfsplus is supported, why didn't it work when i tried01:38
ZiRo`i'm getting frustrated01:38
ZiRo`i thought linux was meant to wrok01:38
atoponceProN00b: what did you try?01:38
backgendoes anyone know how i can get my hands on the official ubuntu book?01:38
ZiRo`gftp doesnt01:38
cr4how do I surf in my share folder with nfs ?01:38
livingdaylightwinkman, that book is sooo outdated. i have it too and donated it to my library coz it's just obsolete01:38
ZiRo`it sucks, transfers "stall" without reason, the only way to recover is to restart the app01:38
winkmanbackgen: From a local library, or through the ubuntu store perhaps?01:38
michael_ifireball: k, i changed it, wiped the log, and am restarting gdm... cross your fingers.  F7 screen is currently blinking cursor plus some garbage i typed on it.01:38
ifireballlivingdaylight: it contains a bunch of *.menu files01:38
ZiRo`but there arent enough decent ftp clients out there accessible01:39
livingdaylightifireball, my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu  gnomecc.menu  gnome-screensavers.menu  kde-applications.menu  preferences.menu  settings.menu01:39
ProN00b"mkdir /media/sda1;mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1" could read and list files correctly01:39
backgenahhh thanks01:39
winkmanlivingdaylight: Really? I"ve got the second edition... and it still seems pretty good01:39
ifireballlivingdaylight: hmm... I also got applications.menu...01:39
livingdaylightwinkman, ahhh.. you didn't say that. i got the first edition01:39
atoponceProN00b: well, that's you're problem. why are you trying to create a device?01:39
backgenalthough i doubt my library will have a book that talks about gibbon...but were there any breakthrough changes that came with it?01:39
livingdaylightifireball, yea, that's the one i need!01:39
ProN00batoponce, i even tried with -w, and mtab showed "rw"01:39
michael_ifireball: oh good, got a parse error, UseEdid not valid in "Device".  I'll try in "Screen".01:39
ProN00batoponce, trying to create a device ?01:39
ifireballmichael_: just comment it for no01:40
atoponceProN00b: mkdir /dev/sda1?01:40
livingdaylightifireball, can you paste that for me? so i can add it01:40
michael_ifireball: ok01:40
dadehoogZiRo`: why are you using gedit ? If you run Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client and set up FTP connections as if they were local filesystems ...01:40
ProN00batoponce, read again01:40
winkmanbackgen: I'm not too sure, i think the second editiion only deals with 6.0601:40
atoponceheh01:40
atoponcemy bad01:40
ifireballlivingdaylight: try reinstalling the "gnome-menus" package01:40
dadehoog*gftp01:40
ProN00batoponce, any idea what else could be wrong ?01:40
std!mp301:40
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:40
atoponceProN00b: you're sure that the hfs+ device is /dev/sda1?01:40
livingdaylightifireball, ok, will try that first and see what impact it has on /etc/xdg/menus01:40
ProN00byes, files show correctly01:40
ProN00bjust giving me a file system is read only error01:41
std!rpl01:41
ifireballlivingdaylight: that's the package where the file came from01:41
atoponceProN00b: mount -t hfs /dev/sda1 /mnt01:41
atoponceProN00b: ^^ work?01:41
std!rpl01:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rpl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:41
kitcheProN00b: is it hfs+ or just hfs?01:41
ProN00batoponce, yeah, going to try this when i reboot, anything else i could try in case this fails ?01:41
michael_ifireball: hm, a couple lines from end of log (it failed again btw) is '(WW) TDFX: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:11:0) found'01:41
stdhow do I ripl-boot ubuntu01:42
atoponcekitche: hfs+01:42
michael_want the whole log pasted?01:42
ProN00bkitche, its hfs+, but i don't think it matters if i just need a file deleted quickly+01:42
Eyemeanif i have problems with openoffice not showing fonts properly is there another room i can go to?01:42
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atoponceProN00b: specify the type. hfs for no journaling, hfsplus for journaling: mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda1 /mnt01:42
livingdaylightifireball, how about the others. Any of them extrenuous?01:42
stdhow do i ripl linux01:42
ifireballmichael_: lets try without the busid line01:42
atoponceProN00b: /mnt is a great tmp point for mounting devices01:42
livingdaylightifireball, my /etc/xdg/menus holds debian-menu.menu  gnomecc.menu  gnome-screensavers.menu  kde-applications.menu  preferences.menu  settings.menu01:42
dadehoogmichael_: "(WW)" means it's a warning, but not fatal to the execution. Look for "(EE)". That means error and failed to execute.01:43
backgenanybody have a link to some cool ubuntu backgrounds?01:43
livingdaylightifireball, all the others are there in your list too or should i eliminate any of them?01:43
michael_ifireball: erm, i seem to have used ".0" instead of ":0" in the xorg.conf BusID line.  Let's try this again, with :0...01:43
realshivahi guys, i want to resend my mails with fetchmail and sendmail, to an 3rd mailserver do someone know how to do this?01:43
stdhow do i ripl linux01:43
michael_dadehoog: yeah, i figured that, but it certainly pointed to a problem as I hadn't seen that before.  thanks.01:43
atoponcestd: what is 'rip1 linux'?01:43
ifireballlivingdaylight: I got all off those01:43
SonicChao!rip101:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rip1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:43
dadehoogrealshiva: a third mailserver ? or an mx host ?01:43
SonicChao!ripl01:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ripl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:43
SonicChaostd: what is ripl Linux?01:44
atoponcei don't either01:44
* michael_ hands ifireball a six pack of beer01:44
x9kriits pretty cool here now :)01:44
stdatoponce: Remote Initial Program Load01:44
livingdaylightifireball, having installed gnome-menus my /etc/xdg/menus is still missing applications menu... could you paste it so i can manually add it?01:44
* michael_ dances around the channel a bit01:44
realshivadadehoog mails are on googlemail.com. serv1.hostA.tdl fetches the mails and should resend it to yahoo.com01:44
atoponcestd: never heard of it. what does it do?01:45
dadehoogrealshiva: OK, BRB01:45
SonicChaostd, do you mean how do you start a program when you log in? Or how you make another user on your network launch a program?01:45
michael_ifireball: after a flash of garbage and i could swear seeing half of a "gentoo" graphic, it loaded just fine.01:45
stdatoponce: it is like pxe, but I tried pxelinux01:45
michael_ifireball: thank you SO MUCH for your help.  so, the only thing changed from the default Gutsy install was the BusID and the driver=tdfx?01:45
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atoponcestd: so, you're trying to boot and install a machine via pxe?01:46
michael_ifireball: i can't remember all the steps tried :/01:46
stdatoponec: no01:46
ricaneliteI have steam already installed with Counter Strike on my Windows Partition how do I get it on my Ubuntu linux Partition?01:46
backgenok so now i know it's not a question...but does anyone have any links to some cool Ubuntu themed Wallpapers?01:46
Agiofwshow do i see the special graphics effects in ubutu 7.1001:46
calmHow safe is it to enable the "gutsy-propsed" repository?01:46
Agiofws?01:46
LjLcalm: not very01:46
Agiofwsis there any menu or something ?01:46
stdatoponce: no ripl is diffrent01:47
Lunar_Lampbackgen, try looking on www.gnome-look.org - there will be some there :-)01:47
NumBeastAgiofws: right click on the desktop, select properties01:47
calmLjL: What exactly goes in there?01:47
Agiofwswhats the key combination for the cube ?01:47
ifireballmichael_: essentially is was the busid and tdfx, since it kept trying to use the wrong card and driver...01:47
NumBeastAgiofws click the desktop effects tab01:47
atoponcestd: then i can't help you. for pxe, however, you may want to check out ubuntuforums.org or ubuntu-tutorials.com. both have help with pxe01:47
AgiofwsNumBeast,  where is that ?01:47
atoponcedon't know about ripl01:47
kitchecalm: it's fixes and such that need tested before they are moved to the main repo01:47
Agiofwsno properties option01:47
marioMi laptop gets stucked and I can't hit any key, not even ctrl alt f2 or f3. Help, please.01:47
calmkitche: Ah, thanks.01:47
fannagogannaare you using pxe to boot from the net?01:47
NumBeastAgiofws, sorry right click desktop, then select change background01:47
michael_ifireball: got it.  thanks again.01:48
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calmI'm learning new things every day. =)01:48
LjLcalm: packages with bugfixes that, if they don't show any problems during a testing period, eventually end up in gutsy-updates. if they *do* show problems though... sometimes they're serious problems.01:48
drgebwhat is steam ?01:48
NumBeastAgiofws then select visual effects tab01:48
livingdaylightifireball, ?01:48
SonicChaomario, sounds like a hardware problem.01:48
twobitsexcuse me, is there a webpage where I can see the hash codes for the various ubuntu installs01:48
ifireballmichael_: cheers, have a nice ubuntuing...01:48
AgiofwsNumBeast,  that only has 3 options01:48
fannagogannatwobits, you mean md5 sums?01:48
NumBeastAgoifws then you can choose what level of effects you want01:48
ifireballlivingdaylight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48795/ good luck!01:48
stdcan anyone else help me with ripling linux01:48
twobitsyeah01:48
Agiofwsi need  to know the key combinations or what it does01:48
mariosonicchao: I don't think so01:48
backgenlunar lamp: thanks!01:49
NumBeastAgiofws if you want more options, install the compiz settings package01:49
SonicChaomario, Did it happen right after an Ubuntu install?01:49
shisohanxyb3r: welcome to #ubuntu01:49
mariosonicchao:how do I find the problem01:49
x9krihas code is not md501:49
NumBeastAgiofws: the cube is Ctrl+Alt+Left mouse button01:49
std 01:49
backgenhey does anyone know if i can download a program that rotates my wallpapers kind of like the setting you can put on Macs?01:49
std   01:49
std\01:49
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SonicChaomario, wait, it freezes /while/ you're using the computer or /as soon as you turn it on?01:49
twobitswell whatever code is applicable01:49
SonicChao!repeat | std01:49
ubotustd: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:49
NumBeaststd: stop spamming01:49
twobitsi have hashtabs open right now01:49
mariosinchchao: yes, before I had vista and never happened something like that01:49
livingdaylightifireball, when you said 'good luck' i suddenly got scared :)01:49
mariosonicchao: when I am using it01:50
shisohangsr: welcome to #ubuntu01:50
AgiofwsNumBeast,  youhave to have compiz ? to gethe cube effect ?01:50
atoponce!tab01:50
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.01:50
michael_backgen: there's a cmd line program to set your wallpaper, so it's very easy to write a script to do this [if you can't find one on the internet], if you're into that kind of thing.01:50
mariosonichchao: specially when Im gettin some files from my home network01:50
ifireballlivingdaylight: well, its a matter of trust then... you are taking a file from a stranger :P01:50
x9krii have the answer whait01:50
shisohanmaster_o1_master: welcome to #ubuntu01:50
shisohanbobbob1016: welcome to #ubuntu01:50
michael_backgen: sort of a while [ 1 ]: sleep a random amount, then pick a file from this directory and set it as wallpaper01:50
shisohanBlank_: welcome to #ubuntu01:50
dadehoogrealshiva: ok ... sorry, can you explain what you're trying to do ..? pull mail from Gmail to your local machine, and forward it automatically to your Yahoo account ?01:50
mariosonicchao: it is pretty weird and unpredictable01:50
NumBeastAgiofws, yes, you have to have compiz. But it comes default with 7.10, so you probably already have it01:50
backgenmicheal: eeek, i have no clue how to script write :(01:50
shisohananubis1337: welcome to #ubuntu01:50
anubis1337hello01:51
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NumBeastAgiofws: but you need to install compiz-settings to get the control panel01:51
SonicChaomario, hmm...how long has this been happening?01:51
stdcan anyone help me with ripling linux?01:51
SonicChaoDid you update your linux-image or another component before?01:51
michael_backgen: ok, then: i don't know of a program but i'd imagine a few minutes google searching for things like [ubuntu rotate wallpaper] will do it01:51
twobitsanother thing i'm curious about, is there any good, free backup software out there. For windows? (I want to back up before I install ubuntu). I'm wondering what other people have used to back up things like drivers etc.01:51
backgenmicheal: hmm alright i could give it a try....i guess it couldn't really screw up my computer if i mess up could it?01:51
shisohanjmdwyer: welcome to #ubuntu01:51
backgenmicheal: thanks01:51
michael_backgen: nope, it could not.01:51
shisohanreZo: welcome to #ubuntu01:51
livingdaylightifireball, i'm just not sure how to cp that into /etc/xdg/menus now? :s can you help me01:51
mariosonicchao, no, my computer is 3 months old and happens only in ubuntu01:51
michael_backgen: no problem, let me know if you find one, i'll use it too :)01:52
SonicChaoWhy is shisohan welcoming everyone? Is this really necessary?01:52
x9kriNumBeast: http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qxvTJksyuk01:52
Agiofwsok NumBeast  whats my  def.  window manager01:52
bobbob1016I just installed a new drive, I'm creating a partition and one option is "round to cylinders" that just means round the partitions to an even number of cylinders, right?01:52
Agiofwsi just killed it ?01:52
reZoshisohan: despite the fact i've been here for a few months, thank you hehe01:52
michael_backgen: hah- first hit on google:01:52
shisohanericvw: welcome to #ubuntu01:52
michael_http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/01/random-wallpaper-in-gnome/01:52
SonicChaomario, so you didn't update ubuntu before it started happening.01:52
reZoyour a bot?01:52
dadehoogmario and SonicChao: I've had similar problems, but they vanished when I disabled compiz effects ...01:52
Blank__i'd hate to be another person asking questions, but my friend's also had this problem: the bar at the top of every window is tiny...01:52
anubis1337im having some problems booting Ubuntu 7.10 so when someone gets a chance let me know and ill describe my problem01:52
NumBeastAgiofws: t's metacity, why01:52
SonicChaoreZo, it's a bot and I don't get what it's purpose is :|01:52
kitchereZo: shisohan is a bot it's doesn't look official though01:52
reZothought so hehe01:52
SonicChaomario, and dadehoog; I have to go. >: Good luck!01:52
mariodadehoog, thanks for the advice01:52
brent1i just installed ubuntu and it refuses to acknowledge my nic and wireless card.  they are both there though....any advice?01:53
mariosonicchao, thanks anyway01:53
mariodadehoog, what happened to you?01:53
slimjimflimdoes anyone know how set up ssl for apache on gutsy?01:53
ifireballlivingdaylight: download as text file, then use "sudo" and "cp" to copy it to the right place and don't forget to set the right permissions with "chmod", I really gtg for now01:53
AgiofwsReading state information... Done01:53
AgiofwsE: Couldn't find package compiz-settings01:53
std:)01:53
crdlb!ccsm | Agiofws01:54
anubis1337has anyone here every experienced problems with ubuntu hanging up once gnome is started?01:54
dadehoogmario: no worries, it's not an awesome solution ... but ... System-> Preferences -> Appearance, click on the "Visual Effects" tab, and select "None".01:54
michael_anubis1337: yep01:54
anubis1337it just leaves a full-screen display of fading colors01:54
anubis1337i would really like to know what to do01:54
x9kriAgiofws: look at my mive  http://youtube.com/watch?v=2qxvTJksyuk01:54
michael_anubis1337: although mine was a blank screen01:54
SoskelCan I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package?01:54
livingdaylightifireball, can i not first create a text file applications.menu and then open it with gedit and past it in?01:54
Tm_Tshisohan: ping01:54
bobbob1016brent1, The nic should be auto-detected, but what is your wireless card, try googling "(wifi card name) ubuntu", such as "bcm4300 ubuntu"01:54
michael_anubis1337: can you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get to a login prompt?01:54
std:-[01:55
anubis1337no01:55
anubis1337tried01:55
livingdaylightcan someone tell me how to create a text file?01:55
dadehoogmario: I had random hard locks where I couldn't do anything, and they appeared to be video related - because they got a whole lot worse when I started using dual screens01:55
stdbye01:55
Soskellivingdaylight: gedit01:55
michael_anubis1337: if you boot in recovery mode, can you get to a prompt?01:55
staceyhow do i get a atheros card working on gutsy? t worked on fietsy01:55
anubis1337it just stops accessing the live cd altogether01:55
livingdaylightSoskel, say more?01:55
ubotuAgiofws: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion01:55
pike_brent1: lspci -v will tell you the chipset of ether nic and wireless card id then suggest searching ubuntuforums.org for someone who had similar problem01:55
michael_anubis1337: ah, so you don't actually have it installed yet?01:55
NemesisDanyone know of a way in linux to tell if I have a vector PDF file or just a standard one?01:55
anubis1337no01:55
drew_chicagodadehoog, just a quick update on my spamassassin trouble. apparently you HAVE to LEAVE junk mail in the folder. If you empty it you lose all the learning. so I'll try that and see if it makes any difference01:55
anubis1337i want to get it working w/ the live cd before i go ahead and install01:55
Soskellivingdaylight: open terminal and type in 'gedit' without qutoes01:55
michael_anubis1337: luckily i *just* went thru this over the last 48 hours.  i'll be happy to give you some pointers.01:55
anubis1337i dont want a useless installation01:55
livingdaylightSoskel, ok01:55
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anubis1337ok thanks id appreciate it01:56
* Tm_T slaps amidaniel|away 01:56
SoskelCan I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package?01:56
dadehoogdrew_chicago: ah right ... that's odd ... does that mean that spamassassin runs through that Junk Mail directory _every time_ it runs ?01:56
pike_stacey: normally just works maybe sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)01:56
NumBeastAgiofws: sorry, that's not the real name, but in synaptic to name/description search for compiz settings01:56
calmHow do I downgrade packages? "Force Version" in synaptic doesn't always seem to work.01:56
backgenmicheal: ok so i think i've found a script to change my backgrounds...is the command prompt i enter it into just Terminal?01:56
drew_chicagodadehoog, thats my guess01:56
michael_anubis1337: well, you won't even be able to install if you can't get to the GUI; so what you'll have to do is get the Alternate Install CD, and use the text-only installer.  once that's done, you'll be able to log in and fix your xorg.conf file (which controls your graphics).01:56
livingdaylightSoskel, sweet...and when i hit save it will ask me where i want it saved?01:56
Soskellivingdaylight: yes01:56
mariodadehoog, how did you disable compiz, because that's what you did, right?01:56
staceylivingday go to cosole and use cat > filename.txt or nano or use gedit kate01:56
dadehoogdrew_chicago: that would likely be a bit of a performance hit ... but it's worth a try01:57
michael_backgen: what's the name of the script?01:57
michael_backgen (wondering if it's a python script, bash script, or executable, or what)01:57
backgenGnome background changer01:57
anubis1337just to make sure, does this have anything to do with what architecture ISO im using?01:57
drew_chicagodadehoog, I was manually clearing the junk folder because it was a pain to check for false junk when it had a bunch of emails. anyway its worth a try01:57
SoskelCan I mirror a specific ISO, or must I mirror the entire package?01:57
anubis1337cause i treid both the 64 bit and 32 bit one01:57
dadehoogmario: As I said earlier  dadehoog: mario: no worries, it's not an awesome solution ... but ... System-> Preferences -> Appearance, click on the "Visual Effects" tab, and select "None".01:57
ericvw!group01:57
anubis1337both produce exact same results01:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about group - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi01:57
Konamhey, i can't set a network between the pcs in my network01:57
dadehoogdrew_chicago: yeah, let me know how it goes eh ?01:58
mariodadehoog, i already have none there, but thanks01:58
Konamneither using samba or nfs01:58
Konamwith no aparent reason01:58
drew_chicagodadehoog, will do. thanks again01:58
michael_anubis1337: no, it doesn't.  when you download the image to burn form ubuntu.org, check the "I need the alternate install version" checkbox.01:58
Agiofwsdo i have to run compiz ?01:58
michael_anubis1337: you'll likely use the 32-bit i386 version.01:58
Agiofwsthats what i did and it killed metacity01:58
Agiofwswhats the compiz package settings name ?01:58
dadehoogdrew_chicago: no worries, good luck01:58
nickrudAgiofws, no you do not01:58
anubis1337ok thats what i thought as well01:58
marioHELP01:58
Agiofwscompizconfig-settings-manager - Compiz configuration settings manager01:58
Agiofws?01:58
crdlbAgiofws: yes01:58
anubis1337ok ill try the alternate install then01:58
anubis1337thank you01:58
dadehoogmario: and you're still getting hard lock-ups ?01:58
michael_backgen: ok, normally i would set this up manually to make it run at every startup,01:58
hdevalencei need to burn a 167 MB netinst cd but i only have dvds01:58
Agiofws?01:58
michael_anubis1337: no problem, and good luck01:58
NumBeastAgiofws: compizconfig-settings-manager01:58
hdevalenceis that a waste?01:59
Agiofwsok NumBeast  no what ?01:59
mariodadehoog, sometimes01:59
backgenmicheal: ok so how do i do that?01:59
NumBeastAgiofwsL install it01:59
mariodadehoog, as i said is unpredictable01:59
nickrudAgiofws, if you don't want compiz, just system->prefs->appearance visual effects tab, and select none01:59
Agiofwsi installed it01:59
michael_backgen: but the blog i mentioned to you talks about using Gnome's session management instead.01:59
dadehoogmario: have you installed any restricted-drivers ? eg. nvidia, ati, etc ?01:59
NumBeastAgiofws: so exactly what do you want?01:59
michael_backgen: as it sounds like you're more comfortable with the GUI, i'd look into using that to control the file instead.01:59
michael_backgen: lemme go look into it - you do so as well and see if you find out how to use "Gnome Session Management" to make that script run when you start gnome.01:59
mariodadehoog, yes, my wireless02:00
nickrudmichael_, system->prefs->session , startup tab02:00
michael_nickrud: thanks :)02:00
mariodadehoog, but that's not the graphic stuff02:00
michael_backgen: you catch that?02:00
dadehoogmario: yeah, what is your wireless card/nic ? and what did you have to install ?02:00
backgenmicheal: eek not really, hahah i know this sounds pathetic but i don't even know where my Gnome is!02:01
michael_backgen: no problem.02:01
mariodadehoog, no i did not install that, is an intel prowireless 394502:01
michael_backgen: are you in a graphical environment that looks kinda like windows?  with a red power button icon at the top right?02:01
backgenmicheal: yep02:01
Agiofwsdo i have to restart X NumBeast  how do i set some effects ?02:02
michael_backgen: great.  THAT environment is "Gnome".  it's the name of the graphical window manager that you're running.02:02
backgenmicheal: ah....ok i see02:02
michael_backgen: it starts up when you turn on the computer.  So: click on the "System" menu at the top left, then Preferences, then Sessions02:02
NumBeastAgiofws: in the visual effects tab, have you tried selecting one?02:02
michael_go to the Startup tab, click "Add" to add a new program to run on startup of Gnome, and browse to find the file you downloaded.02:02
backgenmicheal: ok got it02:02
unitheorygnome is the desktop environment, not window manager02:03
michael_backgen: and apparently, this will start it up next time you log in.02:03
michael_unitheory: i've always been a little hazy on the distinction; is X the window manager, then?  and if so, what's an alternative?02:03
livingdaylightifireball, that worked!02:03
unitheorymichael_, probably compiz or metacity is the window manager depending on whether effects are enabled02:03
backgenmicheal: ok so do i add it as a startup program?02:03
michael_backgen: yep.02:04
kitchemichael_: X is the server that the graphical programs run on02:04
michael_unitheory: if i've just installed Gutsy, would metacity be the manager?02:04
Jack_Sparrowunitheory: gnome and kde are generally called window managers02:04
unitheorymichael_, yes, if you dont have effects enabled02:04
michael_kitche: ok, so if metacity is the Window Manager, and Gnome is the Desktop, what is X called?02:04
kitchemichael_: X02:04
nickrudmichael_, the window manager draws the borders and title bar, provides the mechanism that allows you to move them with the mouse02:04
michael_kitche: lol, right02:04
kitchemichael_: it's just the graphical server you can say02:05
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michael_nickrud: thanks for the clarification.  While the desktop environment provides the menus, panels, desktop, trash, etc?02:05
backgenalrighty...so i just copy paste the entire script into the command line?02:05
nickrudmichael_, exactly02:05
michael_backgen: no, not quite02:05
unitheoryJack_Sparrow, so are desktop environment and window manager the same?02:05
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unitheoryi didnt think so02:06
backgenmicheal: haha thank god, that seemed a bit insane02:06
kitchemichael_: well a window manager can do panels and menus some can at least02:06
michael_backgen: have you downloaded the Gnome Background Changer script (or whatever it's called) as a file to your Desktop?02:06
Jack_SparrowYou are splitting hairs..02:06
michael_kitche/Jack_Sparrow: good enough description for me.02:06
backgenmicheal: yup02:07
nickrudis it dead, or lag?02:07
stacey!wifi02:08
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:08
marioi don't want to have the ubuntu help every time i start ubuntu02:08
marioHELP, please02:08
michael_backgen: ok. the Gnome Background Changer webpage says to now put that program somewhere permanent.  I'd suggest putting it in /usr/local/bin, which is a folder.  if you have a command line available,02:08
arcnewussany good open source gui to recommend for postgresql02:08
staceypike u dont have internet, is there a way to do that from windows?02:08
nickrudJack_Sparrow, it is important to separate out the window manager, emerald vs metacity for exampel02:08
arcnewussi found pdaccess to be decent for my needs but cant find any doc02:09
michael_backgen: which you can get via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal,02:09
michael_backgen: you can type:02:09
yalemant02:09
kitchenickrud: emerald is not a window manager anyways it's just a window decorator02:09
Jack_Sparrownickrud: agreed...   but in general people misuse the term... wm for Desktop02:09
michael_sudo mv "~/Desktop/whateverTheFileWasNamed" /usr/local/bin02:09
nickrudkitche, then compiz is providing the window manager function as well as the compositing?02:10
yamanhello every one02:10
yamanplease i need help i keep gettin an error message saying that there is No space left on device when trying to use the make command, im using live cd on 7.0402:10
michael_this means "move the file into the /usr/local/bin directory, and since that directory is owned by the Administrator, i used "sudo" to gain Administrator priveleges for a minute.02:10
kitchenickrud: yeah02:10
mariohey guys, I know you can help me, how can I disable the ubuntu helo everytime i start the desktop?02:10
yamanand i cant make the install of ubuntu becausei need to update my graphics drivers so that im able to press the next buttons in the install02:10
nickrudkitche, ah, my first new thing for the night, thanks02:10
MasterShrekyaman: you might have better luck using the alternate installer cd02:10
backgenmicheal: ok let me give that a try02:10
MasterShrek!alternate | yaman02:11
ubotuyaman: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal02:11
unitheorymario, you mean when you start firefox?02:11
mariounitheory, no, I mean when i log into ubuntu02:11
Jack_Sparrowmario: You want it to not ask for user name and pass when you boot up?02:11
MasterShrekyaman: also, if you hold alt and click and move your mouse, it should move the window around, so u should be able to get at the next buttons02:11
Billyahh!!!02:11
yamanlol02:12
mariojack_sparrow, no, i already have that, thanks, I mean when i get to see the desktop the help just pops up02:12
drgebI have a strange blinking square on top left hand corner of my desktop how can I determine what program this is ??02:12
yamanMasterShrek: thank02:12
Jack_Sparrowmario: That doesnt happen for most of us so trying to figure out what is happeneing there02:12
michael_drgeb: a messy way is to do a ps output of all running programs then run 'xkill', click on the icon to kill it, then run ps again, and do a diff on the two outputs to see what has changed.02:13
michael_ps gax > fileOne02:13
backgenmicheal: hmm it says it's not recognizing the command02:13
michael_xkill [click on square]02:13
michael_ps gax > fileTwo02:13
michael_diff fileOne fileTwo02:13
ProN00batoponce, hfs mounting doesn't work02:13
mariojack_sparrow, I know is not big deal but i dont know how to stop it02:13
michael_backgen: which command?02:13
michael_backgen: sudo? mv?02:13
frostyhola02:13
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el_tipico_chilenhola02:13
el_tipico_chilenalguien habla español02:14
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pike_drg!es | el_tipico_chilen welcome :)02:14
arcnewussare there any gui recommend to run postgresql?02:14
unbeatablis SAS just a better version of SATA Harddrives?02:14
pike_lol02:14
marioYO02:14
michael_el_tipico_chilen: hay otros channels en que se hablan espanol, este es solo para ingles02:14
tipical_chileanahora si02:14
Jack_Sparrowmario: You get the ubuntu help center every time you login?02:14
tipical_chileanquien habla español02:14
tipical_chileanmichael_02:14
Jack_Sparrow!es | tipical_chilean02:14
ubotutipical_chilean: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.02:14
tipical_chileansuck my dick02:14
atoponceProN00b: have you tried hfsplus?02:14
mariojack_sparrow, yes, man that is the name02:14
backgenmicheal: i think its mv, because it asked me for my password for sudo02:14
mariojack_sparrow, how can i stop it?02:15
nickrud!language | tipical_chilean02:15
ubotutipical_chilean: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.02:15
michael_backgen: jfj!02:15
michael_backgen: i mean, "huh!"... sorry02:15
backgenhahaha02:15
backgenwell i type the command in02:15
voltHeirhi: i've been searching the forum for a half hour to no avail.  how do I install the PEAR package?  i already have installed apache2/php5 with apt...  thanks in advance!02:15
backgenmicheal: then terminal says [sudo] password for (username)02:16
Jack_Sparrowmario: how long has it done this.. what was the last thing you installed when it started etc.02:16
michael_ok, um so you typed sudo mv "~/Desktop/gbchange" /usr/local/bin, and it prompted you for your password, and then it gave you an error?02:16
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nickrudvoltHeir, I believe you're looking for php-pear02:16
voltHeir=/02:17
voltHeirok lemme try02:17
voltHeirnickrud: thanks!02:17
nickrudvoltHeir, take a look at it's description, many of the pear modules are already packaged02:17
mariojack_sparrow, i think since i installed it02:17
voltHeirnickrud: will do.  is there a synaptic package listing somewhere?02:17
nickrudvoltHeir, yes, you'll find it under php-pear :)02:17
backgenmicheal: yup except thats not the name of the file though...wait where did you get your script from?02:17
mariojack_sparrow, i think since i installed......i dont remember02:18
mariojack_sparrow, how can i tell02:18
michael_backgen: i assuemd you were using the one off the blogt that i sent you to.02:18
michael_can you copy and paste what you typed and what error it gave you?02:18
voltHeirnickrud: i mean more generally - like the name of packages that i can use apt to get, so i don't have to come to IRC to find the answer 'php-pear' :D02:18
backgenoooh02:18
Jack_Sparrowmario: If that is true you have a bad install as that is NOT what the rest of us have..  What about installing from repos other than Ubuntu official ones?02:18
backgenmicheal: i think i may have gone to a different one by mistake, can you send me the blog again please?02:18
countxhelp! me02:18
Museyou help me too02:19
countxok ok02:19
countxgo go go02:19
michael_backgen: sure.  and, my mistake - i just tried to run the command i todl you to run and i got an error as well.  stupid me.02:19
nickrudvoltHeir, lol, do aptitude search php5-* in a terminal, I think that will list them all02:19
dadehoogvoltHeir: it depends - on which repositories you have enabled - but for your setup, it should be listed in Synaptic (there's a search function, etc.)02:19
mariojack_sparrow, that didn't happen02:19
michael_anyway, here's the link:02:19
michael_http://www.tu-harburg.de/~vkv/gbgchange/02:19
countxMuse: u first02:19
mariojack_sparrow, I install everything from the synaptic02:19
michael_but if you found another one, we can work with that one instead!02:19
countxMuse: i am guy02:19
Museok, help me wit something02:20
voltHeirnickrud, dadehoog - i am an ubuntu noob.  thanks to both of you!02:20
backgenmicheal: well thats strange...thats the same blog post i was using actually02:20
voltHeir also debian noob :)02:20
countxMuse: what?02:20
Jack_Sparrowmario: Good choice... but needed to ask..  as long as you dint alter or add special repos we can rule that out02:20
mariojack_sparrow, I know is not complicated to fix but how to find out? i'm rather a newbie here02:20
askandWhen I scan a port with ubuntu network tools it tells me the port is open, but when I check it with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ it seems to be closed..why?02:20
countxMuse: u go first then u help me02:20
Musecountx: I'm having problems with my external hard-disk... it doesn't show in windows or linux or any other system.. everytime it says "Cannot recognize this device"02:20
backgenwait how did you download the script then?02:20
michael_sorry backgen, disappeared for a second02:20
countxMuse: u try format?02:21
michael_backgen: what were you asking?02:21
Musecountx: computer doesn't see it. how can i format it02:21
eugohey has anyone used squirrelmail?!02:21
Musecountx: also there is good data in it, like 160gig of data, i dont want to loose those.02:21
countxMuse: in windoze there is 'computer management'02:21
backgenmicheal: how did you download the script then? because when i press on the download link at the bottom of the blog it brings me to another webpage with the entire script there02:21
nickrudvoltHeir, you really gotta get up on the apt commands, then, a fair start is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto02:21
voltHeirthank you sir :)02:21
Musecountx: no usb device there.. i tried from different pcs. external hdd doesnt seem to work...02:22
livingdaylightguys how does one remove a directory?02:22
Jack_Sparrowmario: I dont have an answer...  have not seen that before and it is not part of the standard install..  You are not running inside any vm or anything right, normal hard drive install etc?02:22
countxMuse: it is new?02:22
michael_backgen: if you're using Firefox, right click the link and choose "Save File As".02:22
livingdaylighti have a uselss directory Thunar and Xfce4 in my /etc/xdg  but sudo rm wont' do it02:22
stunatralivingdaylight, "rmdir"02:22
voltHeirlivingdaylight rmdir02:22
livingdaylightthx guys02:22
michael_backgen: save it to your desktop as "gbchange".02:22
backgenmicheal: ok got it02:22
stunatralivingdaylight, make sure the directory is empty.02:22
countxMuse: maybe u are under warranty?02:23
backgenmicheal: i'll try the command prompt again then02:23
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michael_backgen: please spell my name "michael", as it will then be highlighted in my screen for easier finding your comments :)02:23
voltHeirlivingdaylight 'rm <your dir> -r' will work too.02:23
dadehoogis anyone aware of a good vocab testing tool and verb form testing tool ? ideally for french ... that _isn't_ reliant on KDE/Qt ?02:23
mariojack_sparrow, the only thing is i have been cpying files from another pc02:23
Museanyway, countx . you shoot02:23
backgenmichael: oh woops sorry02:23
livingdaylightstunatra, exactly, its just told me the directory is not empty... is ther not a way of just deleting it anyways?02:23
michael_backgen: the command i gave you earlier was crap, unfortunately - you'll need to do this instead:02:23
countxMuse: i broke my internet02:23
stunatralivingdaylight, I'm not sure. You could try deleting each file one by one.02:24
Jack_Sparrowmario: What files...  and have you been using root access to do it?02:24
Museok02:24
countxMuse: laptop with gutsy cant connect to wired or wireless02:24
Musewhy02:24
countxMuse: was working just a second ago, i tried restart...nothing02:24
michael_backgen: do this instead, at the terminal:02:24
mariojack_sparrow, no, i dont think so, just mp3s and documents and pictures02:24
michael_backgen: cd Desktop02:24
realshivadadehoog sry, yes i want to grap the mails from gmail and put it into yahoo account02:24
Jack_Sparrowmario: You also didnt answer my other question.. this is a regular hard drive install.. not vm, not wubi none of that..02:24
michael_backgen: sudo mv gbchange /usr/local/bin02:24
michael_backgen: that should work without errors :)02:25
livingdaylightstunatra, voltHeir 's method 'rm <your dir> -r takes care of it all at once02:25
livingdaylightvoltHeir, thx02:25
Musecountx: you need to pick the wireless router brand in the linux02:25
dadehoogrealshiva: can't you add a forward in your gmail web interface to forward to your yahoo email ?02:25
voltHeirnp02:25
mariojack_sparrow, sorry, no no VMs02:25
stunatraGood to know, voltHeir, thanks.02:25
backgenmichael: ok let me try that right now02:25
Musecountx: in linux you dont have to restart to fix stuff, its not windows man. lol02:25
Musein linux you need to configure & fix, instead of restarting..02:26
countxMuse: when i click manual config, it opens a window with nothing in it but a white box02:26
Jack_Sparrowmario: I dont have an answer...02:26
livingdaylightstunatra, imagine having a directory with hundreds of stuff in it... having to delte one by one just so one can delete the directoy would be too much work02:27
countxMuse: ok after like 2 mins it just came up02:27
backgenmichael: ah ha...new problem now it says No such file or Directory02:27
Musecountx: there is somewhere I remember to pick the "Type" of wireless connection you got... and back then i picked one of them that worked for me, the other options didn't make my internet up.... That what i remember, now you go and ask an expert. i'm just a newbie hehe02:27
countxMuse: its acting very slow and everything is greyed out02:27
stunatralivingdaylight, Yeah I know. I was sure there was a command to delete all of the files and the dir, but wasn't sure what it was.02:27
michael_backgen: awesome :)  firefox may have saved it as "gbchange.htm" instead of "gbchange" just to be ornery.02:27
livingdaylightvoltHeir, why does the -r after dir name remove dire + all its contents02:27
michael_if you click on "Places -> Desktop", do you see any files in the window that comes up?02:28
countxMuse: i would use wired preferbly if it worked :(02:28
stunatralivingdaylight, thanks to voltHeir we both know :)02:28
realshivadadehoog thats not that what i want to do :-)02:28
michael_[the Gnome "Places" menu at the top of the screen]02:28
backgenmichael: yeh but i tried the .htm too and it told me the same thing02:28
livingdaylightstunatra, :D its great learning stuff eh!?02:28
realshivai took gmail and yahoo to explain you what i want to do02:28
stunatralivingdaylight, it sure is!02:28
michael_backgen: copy and paste this and see if it works:02:29
michael_cd02:29
michael_cd Desktop02:29
michael_mv *gbchange* gbchange02:29
voltHeirstunatra, livingdaylight: the -r means 'recursive' - it will delete the directory's subcontents (including subdirectories and their contents), then the directory itself02:29
michael_sudo mv gbchange /usr/local/bin02:29
michael_[that's all]02:29
mariocesar_boHello all, I had some issues sharing a printer from fesity to gutsy. On gutsy I can see the printer on the feisty machine when I try to create a new printer, but when I check the conection I get a No Conection error.02:29
bobbob1016I have a new drive, and I formatted it via GParted.  I found the UUID, and I put it in my fstab, and no luck.  I added /dev/sdc1 which is it's location, is there anything I'm missing that way?02:29
stunatraahh voltHeir, thanks again. I will put that in my notes.02:29
voltHeirlivingdaylight, stunatra: you can add a '-f' to not get the delete prompt for each subcontent, but this is very *VERY* dangerous02:29
wacd-andydoes anyone know when is the Flash plugin going to be alright again...?02:30
michael_backgen: this is renaming the file to "gbchange" first, assuming it's got the word "gbchange" somewhere in the name currently.02:30
livingdaylightvoltHeir, recursive, right, good word, that will help me remember the command for future reference, thx bro02:30
voltHeirnp02:30
countxMuse: having no internet on my laptop scares me02:30
Musecountx: haha.02:30
countxMuse: i upload new songs and internet break :((((02:31
ere4sibobbob1016, have you given it a mount point?02:31
Musecountx: live with it, or see what might cause the problem really... you can't go and say "My internet isn't working" You need to be more specific of what might cause this problem... sorry i couldn't be much of a help, but hopefuly an expert here will help you.02:31
Musecountx: as I said before, i'm just a newbie like you! :p02:31
countxMuse: waa D:02:31
backgenmicheal argh!!! it's still not working02:31
michael_backgen: ok, we'll figure it out.  what's the error?02:31
Jack_Sparrow!doesntwork02:32
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.02:32
backgenmichael: ok so i type in cd and cd Desktop and thats fine02:32
backgenmichael: but then i type in mv *gbgchange*gbgchange (and i've tried every version of the file name...with .htm and not)02:32
slugoneokay im installing GWF ..... the widget factory....i unpacked the tarball........im root right now .....and i type ./comfigure and it goes thro some stuff then says c compiler works, NO..... error creating executables02:32
bobbob1016ere4si, I gave it /media/HD3.  It doesn't show on the desktop though.02:32
askandWhen I scan a port with ubuntu network tools it tells me the port is open, but when I check it with http://www.canyouseeme.org/ it seems to be closed..why?02:33
voltHeirlivingdaylight, stunatra: "man rm" in the terminal ;)  this helps too =)02:33
michael_backgen: was there a space between the second star and the secfond "gbchange", like "*gbgchange* gbgchange"?02:33
stunatrathanks, voltHeir :)02:33
backgenmichael: and then it says "missing destination file operand after 'gbgchange*gbgchange'02:33
ere4sibobbob1016, try in terminal    sudo mount -v /media/HD302:33
livingdaylightvoltHeir, LOL i was just doing a 'man' on eclair but didn't have anything... gonna try man rm now02:33
dadehoogaskand: some ports will be open on the 127.0.0.0, and 192.168.0.0 interfaces - but closed on others ...02:34
voltHeir:) man rocks da house02:34
backgenmichael: no...uh oh was there supposed to be?02:34
dadehoogaskand: and routers/firewalls in the interim may well be blocking the external access02:34
michael_backgen: yep.  what "mv *x* y" does is "move anything containing 'x' to be called 'y' instead."02:34
michael_however, backgen, i have some more bad news...02:34
ere4sibobbob1016,  that should have been   sudo mount -v /dev/sdc1 /media/HD302:34
michael_backgen: i am doing this concurrently with you to make sure things make sense, and i got a few steps ahead and the script is giving an error.  it looks like the author didn't test it very well.02:34
askanddadehoog: hrm ok... the strange thing is I opened two ports in my router..one for torrents and one for direct connect...the torrentport works but the direct connect port wont :/02:35
Ar3sHey02:35
backgenoh no!!!02:35
bobbob1016ere4si, It mounts, I just don't see it on the desktop02:35
Ar3sIs any one alive ?02:35
Musecountx: aww02:35
michael_backgen: it just might work for you, but to save you time, how about instead:02:35
livingdaylightdadehoog, bro... i got my applications menu back... figured it out bro!02:35
backgenmichael: haha and i just typed in the full command with sudo and i think it worked too...02:35
dadehoogaskand: when you say "opened in your router" you mean enabled port forwarding to your Ubuntu machine ?02:35
michael_backgen: ok, well why not try the last couple steps and see if you get an error :)02:36
dadehooglivingdaylight: well done, what was the problem, and the solution ?02:36
askanddadehoog:  yes02:36
backgenmichael: alrighty then so what are those?02:36
michael_backgen: type this: sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/gbchange [or whatever youc alled it!]02:36
jimmygoonIs libmtp integrated into gnome/nautilus?02:36
dadehoogaskand: what's "direct connect" exactly ?02:36
michael_this means "as Administrator, I want to say that gbchange is a program that can be run, not just a filel that can be read."02:36
jimmygoonbecasue somehow ubuntu is talking to my libmtp-only device02:36
countxMuse: no suggestion?02:36
livingdaylightdadehoog, /etc/xdg/menus was missing a applications.menu script Got someone to give /paste me their copy which i added and presto, bob's your uncle02:37
backgenmichael: ok just did, and it seems fine, no error messages02:37
countxMuse: it is still now working02:37
Ar3sIf anyone can help me, I am a student and I got to interview any one working in computers for a damn project a teacher gave me02:37
michael_backgen: great.  last thing to type is just: gbchange02:37
askanddadehoog: hmm in this case it is the linux dc++ client02:37
ere4sibobbob1016,  in config editor there is an option to show volumes on the desktop - is that checked?02:37
michael_backgen: likely it will vomit an error message02:37
backgenmichael: and how right you are...02:37
bobbob1016ere4si, I'd assume so, my other drives show up on the desktop.02:37
bobbob1016ere4si, I remember setting it a while ago.02:37
dadehoogaskand: right, you've double-checked your router configuration ?02:37
michael_backgen: ok, great :)  at least you've learned a little about the command line!  here's what i suggest:02:37
netdemonhow do you log into root?02:38
backgenmichael: Can;t locate Gnome 2 bla bla bla...02:38
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macogwhey who has *just* installed and not changed anything that has to do with synaptic or software sources or anything like that?02:38
Himehello all02:38
backgenindeed i did!!! thanks alot02:38
michael_backgen: i'll go find one that DOES work, you sit tight, and i'll come back and walk you thru the install.  sound good?02:38
marioI don't want the Ubuntu help center to start everytime i log into ubuntu! Help, please02:38
macogwi want to know what a certain file looks like by default02:38
michael_backgen: (yeah that's the error I got too.)02:38
ere4sibobbob1016,  add the mount point to the /etc/fstab entry for the volume then02:38
backgenmichael: oh my goodness thank you so much!!!02:38
dadehoogaskand: what ports appear to be open (when coming from the external interface) ?02:38
askanddadehoog: yep..cant understand why it doesnt work..someone told me the isp might have blocked that port but I have tried several differen..02:38
michael_backgen: sure, i just got a ton of help from somebody else on this channel, it'll be good karma :)02:38
bobbob1016ere4si, It's already there02:38
Ar3sHelp me please :'(02:38
michael_backgen: sit tight, be right back02:38
Himeanyone how i can get the wireless internet working on my laptop?02:38
NeT_DeMoNhow do you log into root???02:38
backgenmichael: do you think if we suggest this to some people develloping the next upgrade for Ubuntu they'll intergrate it?02:39
dadehoogaskand: it's possible ...02:39
askanddadehoog: the port that appear ro be open is the port for deluge 688102:39
dadehoog!sudo02:39
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:39
robdigNeT_DeMoN: you don't, use sudo instead02:39
NeT_DeMoNok02:39
dadehoogNeT_DeMoN: !sudo02:39
livingdaylightdadehoog, the fun with linux is if  you break it yoiu can fix it... although they do say if it aint' broke don't fix it, heh?02:39
Ar3sDoes AnyOne have some time to spend answering a few questions  about is job in computers ...02:39
mariohime: i have an hp pavilion, if you have that laptop maybe i can help you02:39
ere4sibobbob1016,  does the volume show up when you browse to it using nautilus?02:39
michael_backgen: maybe - anything to make the desktop experience more pleasant is a good candidate for getting included :)02:39
macogwNeT_DeMoN: ubuntu locks the root account.  cant brute force a computer without knowing the user's username too if the root account is locked :)02:39
Himemario: aww i have a acer02:39
macogwAr3s: whats up?  this isnt really the channel for that02:39
marioI don't want the Ubuntu help center to start everytime i log into ubuntu! Help, please!02:39
livingdaylightAr3s, is english your first language?02:40
dadehoogaskand: right, and is the service on the other port runnign ?02:40
countxMuse: im still getting nothing :(02:40
mariohime:sorry and good luck02:40
Ar3sWhich channel should I use ?02:40
livingdaylightmacogw, he's doing market research?02:40
Himemario: well can you tell me what you did on yours?02:40
bobbob1016ere4si, Yes, if I go to /media/HD3 manually, I can see it, add files and whatever.  It isn't on the desktop or sidebar though.02:40
atoponceAr3s: #ubuntu-offtopic02:40
macogwAr3s: ubuntu-offtopic02:40
askanddadehoog:  yep02:40
Ar3sty all ^^02:40
nickrudmario, set up the desktop the way you want it to boot, then system->prefs->session, sessions option tab02:40
mariohime: it was pretty simple02:40
macogwlivingdaylight: *shrug*02:40
ere4sibobbob1016,  brb02:40
Ar3sand sorry for bothering02:40
mariohime: i did not have to do anything02:40
dadehoogaskand: can you run a "netstat -a" from the terminal on your ubuntu machine and post the output to pastebin ?02:40
Himemario: oh :|02:41
macogwhas anyone here just installed and not changed anything in their system > administration > software sources yet?02:41
macogwi want to know what a certain config file looks like by default02:41
countxanyone help? i cant connect to the internet or LAN or my wireless on ubuntu gutsy02:41
livingdaylightAr3s, didn't bother me, but they're very strict about this and other matters in here.... purely business here my friend you know?02:41
bimmacogw: no, but I have a fair idea of what sources.list looks like before fiddling. What's your question?02:41
marionickrud: the ubuntu help center does not appear there to be unchecked02:41
reya276Does anyone know how to fix a user permissions on cedega, I can't install any games due to admin rights02:41
nickrudmario, like I said, set up the desktop the way you want it to start (ie, close the help center) then save the session02:42
Himeis there a program that can automatically detect wireless networks?02:42
moon_hay02:42
moon_helo02:42
askanddadehoog: http://pastebin.com/d77c2452f02:42
Ar3sYeah I understand no problem ^^02:42
macogwbim: well that's not the file i'm wondering about ;)  it's just that when popularity contest gets turned on, it's through there.  im wondering if the /etc/popularity-contest.conf 1) exists by default and 2) has the PARTICIPATE="no" line in by default02:42
bimhime: the network manager will do that by default.02:42
livingdaylightmacogw, which sources list?02:42
Ar3sBye all02:42
bimmacogw: oh, well, I fail that test.02:42
ubuntuTrying to get wireless going on an HP laptop with the Intel 4965 chipset. So far, no love02:42
marionickrud, that's the best idea i have heard about it, THANKS a lot, i should have guessed02:43
NeT_DeMoNcan any one help me with my sound driver problems????02:43
bimexcept that I doubt that I've changed mine ...02:43
livingdaylightmacogw, lol02:43
ere4sibobbob1016,  did you  chmod 777 /media/HD3   ?02:43
FezzlerAny ever chain one 4-port router to another with the first being connected to cable modem?  My laptop will not find IP for VPN when plugged into second router02:43
macogwbim: i know there's a default config in another dir, and then /etc/popularity-contest.conf overrides it, but i dont know if that file is *created* when you check the box, or if it already exists and just agrees with the default "no"02:43
livingdaylightLOL @ /etc/popularity-contest.conf02:43
bimmacocg: looks like the answers are 'yes' and 'yes'.02:43
askanddadehoog:  hrm it doesnt tell me the port is closed really..i get "I could not see your service, connection timed out"02:43
dadehoogaskand: sorry, it scrolled off your buffer ... could you do "netstat -tul" for me ?02:43
macogwbim: so before checking the box it exists and says no?02:44
dadehoogaskand: that should be a shorter output for pastebin02:44
bimright. I've never checked the box, and my file exists, and says no.02:44
macogwbim: thank you02:44
marionickrud, see ya dude, greetings from colombia02:44
bimmacogw: no problem. How can anyone follow a conversation in all this traffic?02:44
bobbob1016ere4si, Didn't work, I chmoded it, and no luck.02:44
* NeT_DeMoN stabs sound card with a virtual knife :P02:45
nickrudmario, greets from LA :)02:45
askanddadehoog: here it is, thanks for helping! http://pastebin.com/d280cdd8002:45
ere4sibobbob1016,  sudo chmod?02:45
bobbob1016ere4si, Yes.02:45
dadehoogaskand: no worries, right ... so which port is the second service supposed to be listening on ?02:45
r3n0chey random question, are there any other built in things like "fortune"02:45
biouserI'm going to install R and use it, anyone know how to?  or where?02:45
askanddadehoog: 444402:45
r3n0cya know how you can type "fortune" into terminal and it outputs a random saying02:45
r3n0care there any other hidden type things?02:46
ere4sibobbob1016,  try with sudo chmod -v   to find out why it doesn't work02:46
dadehoogaskand: well, it certainly seems to be listening on port 4444 (tcp) on all interfaces ...02:46
nickrudbim, what chat client are you running? If it's pidgin, replace it with irssi or xchat. They help a lot02:46
CThoI'm trying to compile something with -static, but it complains "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXaw"02:46
kitcher3n0c: hmm nope fortune is a program though not built into the shell02:46
bobbob1016ere4si, I mean it isn't working as in nothing on the desktop.  The chmod was fine.02:46
CThoit works if I leave out -static02:46
kaycekind of a wierd problem, more annoying then anything.. but, every time i restart my pc, my panels seem to always rearrange the icons to completely different then how i set them..  any idea how i can stop it?02:46
[Billy]how do u find a list of ur hardware through the terminal, ie graphics card (linux noob)02:46
ximpulr3n0c: ddate ;)02:46
r3n0clol02:46
capouaishi, noob question.  I know this is possible.  when I'm ssh'ed into a gutsy server (from a feisty desktop), how can I edit a file with gedit (for example)?  I don't know what terms to search for to figure it out on my own02:46
LjL[Billy]: lshw02:46
r3n0care there any other things that come packaged with ubuntu 7.10 like fortune?02:47
[Billy]thanks02:47
ere4sibobbob1016,  is it listed under places?02:47
dadehoogaskand: can you telnet to port 4444 from the ubuntu machine using the network interface ? eg. "telnet 192.168.0.2 4444"02:47
NeT_DeMoNbilly: lspci02:47
kitchecapouais: you can't check out nano though unless you setup X tunneling02:47
SpookyETWhy is ssh faster than SMB and FTP?02:47
ximpul[Billy]: try lspci02:47
roots_hello my friend's! (Y)02:47
bobbob1016ere4si, No.02:47
LjLNeT_DeMoN, ximpul: that just lists what's on the pci bus though. try lshw02:47
NeT_DeMoNljl: ok02:47
roots_this is ubuntu brasil?02:47
askanddadehoog:  that gets me connected02:47
LjL!br | roots_02:48
capouaiskitche: do I need to install X on the server for tunneling?02:48
uboturoots_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.02:48
kitchecapouais: yeah02:48
michael_backgen: still looking...02:48
dadehoogdadehoog: ok ... it's looking more and more like a router/firewall issue02:48
roots_ok! thank's dude... greatz!02:48
roots_muito obrigado..02:48
dadehoogaskand: what's your network / internet setup look like ?02:48
livingdaylightdadehoog, you're welcome02:48
capouaiskitche: thanks, I'll do some research on tunneling02:48
biouseranyone help get me started with R statistical software in ubuntu02:48
biouser?02:48
askanddadehoog: laptop to a wireless router with adsl02:48
ximpulLjL: oh look at that, seems like my age is getting to me ;) tx02:48
backgenmichael: ok i'm looking to add the idea to the ideapool right now02:48
kitchecapouais: yeha you will have to anyways iscne I don't know how to do it myself without using freenx02:49
ere4sibobbob1016,  your fstab entry looks something like  /dev/sdc /media/HD3 ext3 defaults 0 0  ?02:49
LjLximpul: well, it's pretty ubuntu specific i think, while lspci is certainly to be found on most other distributions as well02:49
dadehoogaskand: yeah ... ubuntu seems correctly configured. It looks most likely to be an issue with your router ...02:49
bobbob1016ere4si, Yes.02:49
askanddadehoog: yep : /02:49
Sonjai'm considering making the switch from winxp to ubuntu, but i need programs for these tasks: convert an avi or other video file to a normal video dvd (like Nero), also need a good equivalent for Dreamweaver with a good code view, and also an equivalent of Winamp and mIrc02:50
ere4sibobbob1016,  I'm going of this  -  http://www.smorgasbord.net/2007/06/29/how-to-install-second-hard-drive-in-ubuntu-linux/02:50
dadehoogaskand: you've tried ports other than 4444 ?02:50
Sonjaso basically what's the best linux equivalent of Nero, Dreamweaver, winamp and mIrc?02:50
askanddadehoog: yea..can I have ports with 5 numbers in?02:50
askandlike 23412?02:50
kitcheSonja: xmms audiacous is pretty close to winamp as your going to get really02:50
LjL!equivalents > Sonja    (Sonja, see the private message from Ubotu)02:50
SpookyETis it possible to copy a file from one director to another, interrupt the process then resume?02:50
dadehoogaskand: yep, as long as they're less than around 6500002:51
alteregolioamarok/ or something02:51
CThohow can i build or install a static version of libxaw?02:51
NeT_DeMoNwhats the sudo command for the lshw command sudo | lshw???02:51
askanddadehoog:  ah ok...but if I would try to open another port, what would you recommend it to be? Or it doesnt matter?02:51
marx2kIs there no decent alternative to KLibido??02:51
LjLSonja: Nero, gnomebaker or something is what's installed by default, i believe. dreamweaver, check out kompozer. winamp, well there are many players, ask ubotu about !players. mirc... aren't you on it right now? ;) x-chat is pretty full featured02:51
dadehoogaskand: be selective in the port numbers you select, because 4444 is known as a likely trojan port - so ISPs may well filter traffic on some ports known to be potentially nasty02:52
ere4siSpookyET,  use "diff" in terminal02:52
dadehoogaskand: use the port recommended by the server program ... otherwise 8888 should be ok ...02:52
bobbob1016ere4si, Not working.  I tried on ubuntuguide.org, and that didn't work, which is why I asked here.02:52
askanddadehoog: oh ok.. ill try02:52
LjLmarx2k: pimppa?02:52
marx2kpimppa, eh? Let me search for that...02:52
LjL!info pimppa02:53
ubotupimppa: powerful tool to loot binaries from newsgroups smartly. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.8-0.1 (gutsy), package size 187 kB, installed size 800 kB02:53
dorwardvi have a bluetooth network adapter, a wireless network adapter and a PCI netword adapter.  each of these adapters connect to different network with different privileges, some websites are block when using one but not on the others, is there anyway to choose which connection i would like to be active without disabling other devices?02:53
KiD_ChAoShey guys what application opens .rar again?02:53
SpookyETere4si: diff?02:53
LjL!rar > KiD_ChAoS    (KiD_ChAoS, see the private message from Ubotu)02:53
ere4sibobbob1016,  can you in terminal   fdisk -l   and paste the result?02:53
marx2kLjL have you tried it and like it?02:53
LjLmarx2k: no, it's just the only one i can see for GNOME/GTK02:53
ere4siSpookyET,  type man diff in a terminal02:53
SpookyETdiff is or comparing 2 files02:53
SpookyETI want to resume a copy02:54
marx2koh ok hehehe (Im in KDE, but that's fine... Ill try it out. THanks!)02:54
zylmakhello, how do we change the screen resolution in ubuntu?02:54
LjLmarx2k: oh. i thought you were asking for an alternative to klibido as in, a non-kde equivalent02:54
askanddadehoog: in thedirectconnect client..it wants me to fill in three ports; TCP, UDP and TLS02:54
askanddadehoog: what would tls be?02:55
marx2kLjL: Well, Im asking for a KDE or Gnome KLibido equivalent that might have the features I am looking for02:55
xe4wv2the graphics redendered on my machine is pretty poor02:55
xe4wv2I am using fiesty..02:55
dadehoogTLS is a secure TCP equivalent02:55
xe4wv2Intel 865 chipset02:55
bobbob1016ere4si, sudo fdisk -l gives me http://pastebin.ca/823030 fdisk -l gives me nothing02:56
Filled-voidHi all Im going to install Ubuntu and Windows XP on my system again the problem s I have one IDE drive and one SATA drive could anyone recommend what would be the proper way to do this? Do I need a /boot partition?02:56
|_ockeok so i have my fglrx drivers working, but compiz says i have no composite extension, how can i fix that02:56
LjLmarx2k: well there aren't that many choices anyway, "apt-cache search newsgroup binar" will list them all. nzb is qt402:57
nickrud|_ocke, sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl, log out and back in02:57
ere4sibobbob1016,  where did you get the uuid for the volume?02:58
x9kristupids02:58
cafuegoblkid will tell you the uuid.02:58
bobbob1016ere4si, sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdc102:58
Murdoc650im new to linux in general and I need some help02:58
ere4sik02:58
bobbob1016ere4si, sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdc gives me nothing02:58
cafuegobobbob1016: `blkid'02:59
LjLMurdoc650: ask02:59
Murdoc650just installed ubuntu 7.10 but everytime i install my graphics drivers and restart it wont boot02:59
marx2kLjL: pimppa does not start on my machine. crashes with a MySQL error :/02:59
Murdoc650it makes me reinstall everything all over again02:59
nickrudbobbob1016, ls /dev/disk-* , choose your poisong02:59
ere4sibobbob1016,  sdc is the disk - sdc1 is the partition02:59
nickrudbobbob1016, erm, that is, ls /dev/disk/by-*03:00
bobbob1016cafuego, The disk doesn't show up in the list when I do blkid03:00
LjLMurdoc650, how are you trying to install your graphics drivers?03:00
bobbob1016ere4si, I know sdc vs sdc1, sdc doesn't give me a UUID03:00
ere4sibobbob1016,  just saying you want to mount partitions not disks03:01
LjLMurdoc650: which card do you have and which packages did you attempt installing from synaptic?03:01
cafuegobobbob1016: Correct.03:01
nerbsi'm having trouble installing ubuntu 7.10 - the installer gets to where it's copying files (with the percent bar) and then it suddenly disappears off the screen without an error message03:01
marx2kheh nzb seems REALLY light03:01
marx2kIt seems like klibido is the best of them03:01
bobbob1016ere4si, I know, I am mounting sdc1, not sdc.  I said sdc didn't give me a result in the vol_id, sdc1 did.  I wasn't sure what you were asking.03:01
ere4sik03:02
nerbslike it just quits copying.  it has happened anywhere from 30% to 90%03:02
nickrudnerbs, have you run the disk check routine in the start menu?03:02
ere4sibobbob1016,  does ls /media/HD3 give a result?03:03
backgenmichael: alright just added the idea to the idea pool forum...i hope it gets some support and we might just see it in heron!03:03
nerbsyeah.  it says it's okay.  i've tried re-burning it and using different media.  i checked the md5 sum of the iso matches the website.03:03
LjLMurdoc650, please speak in the channel... i might not be able to help, but other people might. so you're saying that you install the driver for your nvidia 7900GTX card from Synaptic, but when you reboot, you don't see a screen? One thing: why from Synaptic? shouldn't you be using the Restricted Drivers Manager?03:03
michael_backgen: great03:03
bobbob1016ere4si, Yes.  The drive mounts fine.  I can't get it to show on the desktop.03:03
michael_backgen: i spent 15 minutes tailoring a  script that turned out didn't work either...03:04
michael_still looking.03:04
nickrudnerbs, you might try the alternate cd, it seems to install on more hardware (I do hope that's not the one you're using :)03:04
Murdoc650as I said I'm new to linux in general03:04
Himehello03:04
Himei had one more question03:04
bobbob1016ere4si, I think it isn't showing up as a drive to Ubuntu, do you know why that would happen?03:04
ere4sibobbob1016,  if it mounted fine it would show in places03:04
theNewMehi all anyone know a current source for w32codec ?03:04
LjLMurdoc650: i'm trying to understand what's going on. as far as i know, you should be prompted automatically by the Restricted Manager to install drivers, without a need to use Synaptic03:05
LjL!medibuntu > theNewMe    (theNewMe, see the private message from Ubotu)03:05
ere4sibobbob1016,  what is the free space in /media/HD3?03:05
bobbob1016ere4si, I mean it mounted fine as in I can see it, and read/write it, I just can't see it on the desktop or anything.03:05
ogrei need to kill bonobo-activation-server how would i go about doing that?03:05
nerbsnickrud, does the alternate cd install everything the normal cd installs?03:05
friedtofuhelp with the application title bar  --- i enabled emerald theme - and when it enters, the Title is really small font - after using alt + ctrl + backspace, it becomes larger - img here http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l105/reachthroughmist/image.png03:05
LjLnerbs: yes03:05
ere4sibobbob1016,  you could be just writing to a file in ubuntu03:05
nickrudnerbs, yes, it just doesn't have a live cd mode03:05
Himehow can i partition my haddrive so that half has ubuntu and half windows? and then choose at boot screen which i want to run03:05
Murdoc650it does if I try and change something with my desktop, but other then that it doesn't03:05
LjL!dualboot > Hime    (Hime, see the private message from Ubotu)03:06
nerbsthanks, i'll give it a try03:06
bobbob1016ere4si, The freespace is what it should be, it is a 500gig drive, and it is 435, my main drive has 3gig left, so I know this is the new drive.03:06
backgenmichael: you know what i think we should give up for now03:06
Hime!dualboot03:06
ubotuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot03:06
LjLMurdoc650: and if you just don't touch anything at all... what's wrong with the driver you get by default?03:06
michael_backgen: no we should not!  i just found "drapes", a Gnome progra mthat replaces the wallpaper controller but lets you rotate wallpaper.03:06
backgenmichael: hopefully, with any luck, the idea will be taken in and will be in the next upgrade!!03:06
HimeLjL: thanks :)03:06
michael_and best yet, it's installed with a single command.03:07
backgenmichael: oh ho!!! sounds promising...is it a download or scripting again?03:07
ubuntuTrying to dual boot. Installer insists on using the entire HD (VISTA). How can I change that?03:07
keith80403How many CD's does the 7.10 release use?  Is there a way to download all the ISO's for a complete 7.10 release so that a network is not needed?03:07
Murdoc650nothing anymore, but when I first intstalled it the screen was offset03:07
ere4sibobbob1016,  ok - it mounts - I'm a long way away and can't see properly from here :)03:07
ogrekeith80403,  it just uses 103:07
michael_give me another minute to verify, and i'll let you know.  it's a one line installation using a program called "apt-get" which Gnome uses to suck down and install packages for you.03:07
Murdoc650The problem really isn't drivers at this point03:07
csc`Question03:08
csc`Does ndiswrapper use wlan0 as the device name by default in ubuntu?03:08
LjLMurdoc650: if it's a CRT screen, then you should simply adjust the controls03:08
t0ny.03:08
keith80403ogre, So, one CD to get a basic system, and everything not on the install CD has to be downloaded, right?03:08
ere4sibobbob1016,  can you post your fstab pls03:08
ere4si*paste03:08
Murdoc650the big problem is that when I turn off my comp and reboot it wont boot from disk and so it goes to the CD and then reinstalls Ubuntu03:08
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LjLMurdoc650... even if you remove the CD?03:09
DG19075keith80403, there is also a DVD image of Ubuntu...03:09
ogrekeith80403,  well its the complete system seperate packages can be downloaded as you need them03:09
Murdoc650yes03:09
nickrudkeith80403, there's a dvd release has most stuff http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/03:09
michael_backgen: it works!  hooray!03:09
LjLMurdoc650: well, if it removes the CD, it can't go to the CD. so what happens exactly if you remove the CD and then reboot?03:09
backgenmichael: MARVELOUS!!03:09
keith80403ogre, DG19075, nickrud, OK thanks for the info, guys.03:09
csc`=S03:09
csc`no answer?03:09
nickrudkeith80403, but be aware, a lot of packages have been updated, you'll still need a net to be up to date03:09
backgenmichael: ok i've found drapes, downloaded and extracted it...what next meistro?03:10
Murdoc650nothing. it will stay at my preboot screen asking me to put in the CD03:10
bobbob1016ere4si, http://pastebin.ca/823037 I've tried 0 0 and 0 2 and 0 1, none worked.03:10
keith80403nickrud, Got it - thanks.03:10
osxdudesee yalls03:10
Murdoc650I've set my boot priority to Hard Disk but it doesn't read anything on it03:10
robdigcsc`: what is your question?03:10
osxdudei'mma go now03:10
osxdudeawaty03:10
csc`<csc`> Does ndiswrapper use wlan0 as the device name by default in ubuntu?03:10
ogrenautilus is crshed on me i need to kill bonobo-activation-server how do i do that via terminal?03:10
michael_backgen: hah, you took the long route!  do this instead:03:11
michael_click on Applications -> Add/Remove.03:11
csc`ogre: kill -903:11
osxdudecsc`. No.03:11
michael_In the top right corner, choose Show: All available Applications.03:11
mafiaboyexit03:11
nickrudogre, killall bonobo-etc03:11
csc`that works too03:11
michael_backgen: then type "drapes" into the search box.  it should come up as the only hit.03:11
michael_backgen: good so far?03:11
nickrudone less step, no pid to discover03:11
csc`osxdude: that to me for the question i asked?03:11
ogrenickrud,  tyvm03:11
osxdudecsc`, if it's internal it'll use eth0 or something03:11
LjLMurdoc650, this might be a stupid question, but you *did* install Ubuntu? when you said "and then reinstalls Ubuntu"... you're aware that just putting the CD in the drive and then waiting until a desktop comes up does *not* mean Ubuntu is installed, right?03:12
osxdudeyes csc`03:12
backgenfantastic i'll do that just now03:12
csc`osxdude: so when ndiswrapper is installed, an alias isnt created to always make it wlan0, correct?03:12
backgenmichael: i'm in love with the add/remove thing in ubuntu03:12
Murdoc650yeah, I went through the install,03:12
ogrenickrud,  no luck03:12
cr4how do I mount nfs share folders ? I'm doing this but it doesn't works "192.168.123.28:/home/p47 /media/lp47 nfs rw,hard,intr00"03:12
ere4sibobbob1016,  your cd is /dev/sdc - your new disk will have to be /dev/sdd03:12
cr4why ?03:12
osxdudeI don't believe so, csc`03:12
michael_backgen: yeah, tell me about it.  it's the frontend to the command line "apt-get" which is FINALLY an easy-to-use linux installer :)03:13
osxdudeOk I gtg....see yalls03:13
osxdude:P03:13
nickrudogre, you didnt't type bonobo-etc , right :)03:13
csc`osxdude: well that just overcomplicates things :|03:13
bobbob1016ere4si, How would I change it to /dev/sdd?03:13
evan_i have some applications that just repeatedly crash03:13
backgenmichael: finally?? which version of Ubuntu did it come in?03:13
ere4sibobbob1016, I don't know - let me check03:13
ghostcubehi anyone frim with nvidia03:13
ghostcube?03:13
nickrudogre, ogre if it's still running after killall  bonobo-activation-server , try killall -1503:13
ghostcubegot gf 5700 le and a question03:13
michael_backgen: i've been playing with linux for several years; before apt-get, "rpm" (red hat package manager) was popular.  but it had issues.03:14
ghostcubeis the one working with 100xx dribver or only by 9xxx03:14
ogrenickrud, killall bonobo-etc03:14
michael_and then there was some other one starting with a "y" which i've tried to forget, i can't remember.  anyway, apt-get Just Works, which is great!03:14
nickrudogre, the etc was a placeholder for the full name, I didn't want to type the whole thing out ;03:14
OseIs there a way to mass delete files?03:14
ogreahh thanks03:15
LjLMurdoc650: it's really time to go to bed for me, and we'd need a pretty lengthy troubleshooting session i fear, as this seems a weird problem. remember though the question you really want to ask is: i have installed Ubuntu, but on rebooting, the BIOS refuses to boot from the HD, and just goes on trying to boot from CD. <- better way to phrase your question03:15
nickrudOse, rm *03:15
backgenmichael: hmm except in this case! the installation and everthing went fine but then i go to appplications - Graphics - Drapes and click on it nothing happens!03:15
LjLwhich you luck, you'll find me here again tomorrow03:15
bobbob1016ere4si, I think it might be that I have sata, is it possible the fstab is outdated?03:15
Murdoc650ok, thanks LjL03:15
michael_backgen: i thoguth so too at first - but is there a little screen icon near the top right corner of your monitor?03:15
michael_next to your clock?03:15
OseNickrud: So to remove all text files in a directory (And directories within it) rm /home/ose/*.txt?03:15
backgenmichael: no wait...erase what i just said it does!!!03:15
backgenmichael: haha yeh i just found it03:15
|_ockeok, so i have a ati radeon xpress 200, i've installed fglrx, and done all sorts of stuff to my xorg.conf following help on the web, and when i run compiz.real i get "compiz.real (core) - Fatal: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing", but glxinfo | grep "GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap" shows it to be there03:16
michael_backgen: great!  now right click it and choose Preferences, and tell it to start every time, and tell it where to find your files, and yo'ure set!03:16
|_ockeany ideas?03:16
ader10I logged in and all of my gnome menu bar applets will not load. Is this common?03:16
nickrudOse, that would get files, but not directories ending in *.txt . To get any dir, you would do rm -r *.txt  (-r means recursive)03:16
backgenmichael: hmm that's what i'm doing but the darn thing won't load my pictures...is it working for you?03:16
OseNickrud: I want to keep the directories. It's the files within the directories I want to remove.03:17
bobbob1016ere4si, I thought sdc1 was different than scd0 and scd103:17
ader10The error returned was "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet". Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?03:17
ghostcube|_ocke: #compiz-fusion03:17
dadehoogaskand/askan1: any luck ?03:17
|_ockek03:17
ere4sibobbob1016, just saw that03:17
nickrud|_ocke, i run that chip (crap) , how did you install fglrx ?03:17
michael_backgen: hm, not yet, though i don't have any pictures of my own.  gimme a sec.03:17
askan1dadehoog: yes! it is working now! dont know why really..:)03:17
backgenmichael: hmm it's working for one picture...but why not for the rest?03:17
dadehoogaskan1: which port did you end up using ?03:18
michael_backgen: like, it only displays one picture, and when you click the Drapes icon it doesn't change?03:18
ere4sibobbob1016,  add to fstab line -   utf8,umask=007,gid=4603:18
backgenno in the drapes thing when i click on add, it simply won't add my pictures into the little window...03:18
RioCunliffeHi, i hveing a huge problem, i accidently stoped my user from being admin (its my only user) is there a way i can change it back (as sudo wont let me)03:18
backgendo they need to be JPEG?03:18
askan1dadehoog: 8888 seemed to do the trick03:18
larson9999the office is great03:19
ader10I logged in and all of my gnome menu bar applets will not load. How do I fix it?03:19
dadehoogaskan1: yeah, it sounds as though 4444 was being blocked by your ISP ... 8888 is often used for proxies and webservers, so it's likely to be allowed.03:19
Tore676anyone here own a blackjack2?03:19
dadehoogGlad it's fixed.03:19
askan1dadehoog: thankyou :)03:19
dadehoogaskan1: no worries03:19
backgenmichael: i think thats the problem...they may need to be Jpegs...do you know how to convert pictures into JPG format?03:19
michael_backgen: not on Ubuntu yet, no03:20
|_ockenickrud, i just did sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-fglrx or whatever it was03:20
michael_backgen: i can't even get jpegs to work. did you just point Drapes to your pictures folder, and then click on Drapes and it worked?03:20
wyI want to unintall package A, and I remember when I installed it, I also installed lots of packages that A depends on. So now I want to remove them because they might not be needed by other pacakges. Is there a way to uninstall those packages together with A?03:20
RioCunliffebackgen: open them up with sothing like gimp, then save as jpeg03:20
|_ockein fact, the restricted manager installed it03:20
backgenmichael: hahaha this is so silly!03:20
nickrud|_ocke, then you logged out, and fglrinfo said you were running ati drivers, not mesa?03:21
michael_backgen: you'll find that a lot in Linux is...03:21
michael_:)03:21
|_ockenickrud, yeah03:21
backgenmichael: all the images are JPEG's but since i renamed them they lost the .jpg at the end...03:21
|_ockefglrx-info shows it03:21
countxhow can i increase the size of my ubuntu partion, im out of space on the partition i installed ubuntu to and weird stuff is happening03:21
backgenmichael: all i had to do was rename them to add the .jpg and it's working fine now03:21
michael_backgen: hah!  good for you.03:21
nickrud|_ocke, then all you have to do is install xserver-xgl , and log back out and in. The ubuntu fglrx doesn't have aiglx, so you have to run that special server03:21
speeveswy: you could try something like : apt-cache showpkg links03:21
d|vanybody know what changed in the kernel from 2.6.22-14-generic to 2.6.20-16 with the latest kernel speed stepping is disabled with centrino dotham processors03:22
backgenmichael: well my quest is done....thank you so much for all your help michael03:22
michael_backgen: by the way, did you "Add" them via the main preferences tab, or did you choose "Monitor this folder" on the second prefercenees tab?03:22
RioCunliffeHi, im having a huge problem, i accidently stopped my user from being admin (its my only user) is there a way i can change it back (as sudo wont let me)03:22
DG19075got drapes working here too..awesome!!!!03:22
michael_backgen: you're very welcome, glad to help!03:22
nickrud|_ocke, then install compizconfig-settings-manager  and  emerald and you're good to go03:22
backgenmichael: are you a programmer or something?03:22
wyspeeves:  Can't this be automated?03:22
bobbob1016ere4si, It says wrong FS type, although it is ext3 in gparted03:22
backgenmichael: i added via the main one03:22
michael_backgen: how'd you guess ;)03:22
|_ockei have to run xgl too? oh, all these pages were saying that i shouldnt have to install xgl and that if i did it would negate the benefits of using fglrx03:23
backgenmichael: hahaha, do you code exclusively for linux or mac and windows too?03:23
FullMon-TAnybody know what dwhelper is?03:23
|_ockeis that way offbase?03:23
nickrud|_ocke, get rid of all those extra settings in xorg.conf, the glx , composite , overlay stuff03:23
michael_backgen: i worked for Google a couple jobs back, which you'd think would make me better at Linux... but at my last job it was Windows, so my linux is a little rusty.03:23
michael_I haven't done any Mac, though.03:23
|_ockeget rid of glx?03:23
|_ockek03:23
Tore676can anyone get the blackjack2 modem to work with a laptop03:23
nickrud|_ocke, ubuntu runs 8.37 , I bet you were reading 8.42 or 8.43 driver instructions03:23
ere4sibobbob1016,  what says it is wrong file system type?03:23
|_ockeyeah i have 8.4203:24
|_ockeor something03:24
|_ockeor maybe i dont03:24
nickrud|_ocke, then you didn't install it from ubuntu03:24
|_ockei did install through ubuntu03:24
d|vsomething in the latest kernel killed stepping with the intel centrino dotham processors03:24
bobbob1016ere4si, When I mount the drive.03:24
d|vanybody know what was changed03:24
backgenmichael: Google?! wow, that's impressive!03:24
crdlbfglrx 8.42 is not in the repos03:24
nickrud|_ocke, fglrxinfo will tell you for certain03:24
michael_backgen: thank you! :)03:24
ere4sibobbob1016,  in fstab cal it ext2 and see if that works03:24
michael_backgen: what do you do?03:24
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|_ockenickrud, it doesnt tell me a version03:25
RioCunliffeHi, im having a huge problem, i accidently stopped my user from being admin (its my only user) is there a way i can change it back (as sudo wont let me)03:25
backgenmichael: ah i'm a measly student at the moment03:25
speeveswy: there probably is, but I don't know it off the top of my head03:25
|_ockek now xgl will be started automatically on next login apparently03:25
nickrud|_ocke, I get OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series, OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)03:25
werswow. kernel upgrade :)03:25
tritiumbackgen, michael_: can you please stay on topic?  You can /query or /j #ubuntu-offtopic to continue03:25
michael_tritium: good point, thanks for the reprimand!03:26
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michael_backgen: it's been lovely playing with you.  have a nice night :)03:26
backgentritium: alright my apologises03:26
tritiummichael_: no, it's a kind reminder. Thanks!  :)03:26
tritiumno worries, backgen03:26
sllinessanyone here know how to clear a disc on module?03:26
michael_tritium: yep, no problem!03:26
backgenmichael: same to you micheal03:26
|_ockeoh lemme see03:26
d|vRio03:26
d|vtry sudo su03:26
d|vto give yourself root access03:26
bobbob1016ere4si, "wrong fs type, bad superblock" when I do mount -a, which is how I understand it is done on boot, but mount /dev/sdc1 /media/HD3 works fine, nothing on the desktop though03:26
* nickrud notices no one messes with unstable hydrogen03:26
d|vthen change the user settings03:27
Filled-voidI need to install WIndows XP and Ubuntu on an IDE and SATA drive respect