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hamadooookik i will try00:00
sd132is there a list of bot commands anywhere?00:01
mempmani have hp laptop, are there any good programs out there to change touchpad sensitivty settings?00:01
steveireandreas__: What is the problem you're having? Is it just configuration?00:01
andreas__about what?00:01
andreas__the brightness?00:02
NickPresta!bot > sd13200:02
sd132NickPresta: thanks00:02
posingaspopularhey all, im having trouble importing my signed CoC into LP. it gives me 'no data' every single time00:02
tekteenposingaspopular: coc?00:03
cheguevara_not really kubuntu related that00:03
steveireandreas__: Using your p2p00:03
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cheguevara_code of conduct00:03
tekteenwhat is a coc00:03
tekteenok00:03
Squeezedhi00:04
andreas__i have installed dc_gui but i can't get it to connect to dchub://toffe1.the-internationals.com:133700:04
staceyi have the following dependancey error, what should i do  smbclient: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2) but 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 is installed.00:04
cheguevara_posingaspopular: #launchpad00:04
Squeezedi have a grat problem with kubuntu00:04
Squeezedwith konqueror00:04
Squeezedand kopete00:05
Squeezedi'm connected with a 56k modem now00:05
posingaspopularthanks all00:05
bluemanwhy do i keep getting booted out of here periodically?00:05
bluemanit is sooo frustrating00:05
Squeezedbut i can't surf the web with konqueror00:05
NickPrestablueman, what message are you kicked with?00:06
Squeezedcan someone help me?00:06
steveireDoes anyone have qt demos installed or want to be really helpful and apt-get install libqt4-doc?00:06
bluemannick: it just says connection timed out00:06
NickPrestablueman, then you aren't being booted out of here. Your connection is timing out =)00:07
ardchoilleblueman: You weren't kicked, your connection timed out.. nothing we can do about that00:07
tehm0nksup people00:07
steveireAnyone?00:08
hamadoooblueman .. i think you can adjuste the brightness with ctrl and F600:08
hamadoootry it00:08
Squeezedi don't know how to help you00:08
cheguevara_steveire, yeah i'll do it00:08
andreas__i am using Apollon right now and it is taking so long to connect!!00:09
andreas__actually it can NOT connect00:09
steveirecheguevara_: Cool.00:09
Squeezedis someone using a 56k here?00:09
steveireActually, apt-get source qt4-dev instead.00:09
hamadoooi have a question now ... i have to languages in ubuntu how can i swich between them by using ctrl and alt just like the windows00:09
tehm0nkany gamers here?00:10
cheguevara_probably got qt4-dev already00:10
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cheguevara_what are the steps to reproduce00:10
steveirecheguevara_: Yeah, but if you apt-get source libqt4-dev you get some demo applications :)00:10
cheguevara_oh source00:11
hamadooohelp00:11
cheguevara_didn't notice that00:11
hamadoooi have a question now ... i have to languages in ubuntu how can i swich between them by using ctrl and alt just like the windows00:11
hamadoootow00:11
cheguevara_hamadooo, its in kde's control panel soewhere00:11
steveirecheguevara_: Yeah, sorry I'm being confusing i know. That stops now.00:11
steveire:)00:11
hamadooowell im using ubuntu00:11
hamadooowhere i can find this control panel00:11
cheguevara_hamadooo, ubuntu or kubuntu?00:12
hamadoooubuntu00:12
cheguevara_steveire, give me 5 minutes to get the source00:12
cheguevara_hamadooo, so why are you asking your questions in a kubuntu support channel00:12
hamadooothey don't help me there00:12
hamadooono one asnswers me00:13
cheguevara_well we don't have gnome to help you :P00:13
jack12hamadoo: what is your question00:13
ardchoillehamadooo: This channel is for Kubuntu support, many of the apps used by these folks won't be available in gnome unless you install them.00:13
hamadoooi have tow languages in my ubuntu .. i want to swich between them by ctrl and alt just like the windows00:13
jack12if my connection times out one more time, i am gonna flllliiippp00:14
hamadooook ardchille00:14
hamadoooi think there are almost the same .. ubuntu and kubuntu00:14
hamadooothat's why i asked here00:14
bazhangwhat languages hamadooo00:15
cheguevara_hamadooo, the core is the same but the GUI is not00:15
hamadoooi have arabic and english and i want to swich between them via keyboard00:15
andreas__Hello? I am having troubles with Apollon.. Anybody to help00:15
andreas__?00:15
jack12y is it that some programs (i.e. wmbattery) install into /usr/bin and also in /usr/bin/X1100:15
bazhangskim hamadooo read up on it, then go to #ubuntu00:15
hamadooowhat skim means00:16
cheguevara_hamadooo, try  System -> Preferences -> Input languages00:16
cheguevara_or something along those lines00:16
bazhangskim hamadooo read up on it--did you do that already?00:16
hamadooono00:16
hamadooowhere can i read about it00:16
bazhangthen first do so hamadooo--are you familiar with any search engines?00:17
hamadoooyes google00:17
bazhangthere you go00:17
hamadooobut let me use what cheguevara sayid first00:17
cheguevara_System (top 3rd place)00:17
cheguevara_Preferences (top in list)00:17
cheguevara_Keyboard (5th in list)00:17
cheguevara_Layouts (2nd tab)00:17
cheguevara_try that00:17
hamadooook00:17
hamadoooyes i did that .. and i already have the tow language in my ubuntu .. but i can swich between them with my keyboard like i always do in windows00:18
hamadoooctrl + alt00:18
ardchoillehamadooo: are you using gnome or kde?00:19
hamadooognome00:19
jack12maybe i should switch from kubuntu and ubuntu.....?00:19
jack12perhaps...any thoughts?00:19
bazhanghamadooo: I already answered that: skim--read about it, then go to #ubuntu00:19
cheguevara_hamadooo, there where i told u to go00:19
cheguevara_will be options00:19
hamadooook guy's just don't be angry00:19
cheguevara_to set the keys to switch00:19
hamadoooi will00:19
cheguevara_just look harder00:19
bazhangharder heh00:19
hamadooook i don't need this now ... i have another question00:20
hamadooowhat is the best msn client00:20
cheguevara_go on :P00:20
bazhangjack12: no idea--the support for other distros is not very good00:20
cheguevara_amsn00:20
hamadoooi want it to be like the windows00:20
bazhanghamadooo: then go to ##windows00:20
hamadoooamsn good but doesnt support arabic .. only english00:20
cheguevara_why switch to linux if you want things to be like windows :P00:21
cheguevara_especially to a gnome distro :P00:21
hamadooocuz last night i got virus un my windows00:21
hamadoooi hate it ;/00:21
tekteenhamadooo: try kubuntu00:21
cheguevara_amsn doesn't only supports english00:21
tekteenhamadooo: it is "more like windows"00:21
cheguevara_i am not entirely sure about arabic00:21
bazhanghamadooo: listen to tekteen :} then we can help you00:21
cheguevara_steveire, got the source00:22
steveirecheguevara_: Great cd qt4-x11-4.3.2/demos/textedit00:22
hamadoooi don't have the cd for kubuntu .. and ubuntu looks better cuz its the first one of them00:22
steveireor use konqi. Doesn't matter00:22
cheguevara_i prefer terminal :P00:22
ardchoillehamadooo: Please go to #ubuntu for gnome support. This channel is for Kubuntu support.00:22
cheguevara_hamadooo, then seek support in #ubuntu00:22
bazhangthen go to the correct channel hamadooo00:23
steveirecool, then ./textedit00:23
hamadooono help there00:23
hamadoooi went there and no one talks to me00:23
cheguevara_hamadooo, then forums or come back later00:23
bazhangno help for that here00:23
tekteenhamadooo: I found the fonts00:23
steveireselect a word, like widget or something, and click ctrl+u00:23
cheguevara_steveire, need to compile it first right00:23
hamadoooyou guy's look helpful00:23
hamadooowht fonts00:23
steveirecheguevara_: Oh yeah.00:23
cheguevara_hamadooo, but we can't help you with something we don't use00:23
tekteenhamadooo: sudo apt-get install ttf-arabeyes00:23
cheguevara_steveire, remind me the comand00:24
steveirecheguevara_: cd demos00:24
tekteenthat is arabic fonts00:24
steveirethen qmake -project; qmake; make00:24
hamadoooi have arabic fonts .. but amsn doesn't suport arabic not ubuntu00:24
hamadoooi can right arabic here00:24
tekteenoh00:24
hamadooowrite00:24
tekteensorry00:24
hamadoooanyways it's ok00:24
hamadoooi fine without msn :P00:24
hamadooonow plz let's talk about mirc00:25
hamadoooi use xchat00:25
ardchoillehamadooo: Please go to #ubuntu for gnome support. This channel is for Kubuntu support. This is your last warning.00:25
hamadoooit seems good .. but i hate the colors00:25
cheguevara_steveire, your sure thats the comand00:25
cheguevara_i get an error00:25
tekteenhamadooo: want to get kubuntu?00:25
hamadooosorry00:25
andreas__hamadoo00:25
hamadoooi leave now00:25
hamadoooyes00:25
andreas__Konversation is a very good client00:25
steveirecheguevara_: Could you pastebin the error?00:26
andreas__it came with Kubuntu00:26
steveirecheguevara_:00:26
tekteenhamadooo: in the terminal type00:26
steveireqmake-qt4; make00:26
steveiretry that instead00:26
hamadooocan i download it in ubuntu00:26
tekteenhamadooo: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop00:26
andreas__well you might find in in adept manager00:26
hamadoootakteen i don't want kubuntu i like ubuntu00:26
tekteenok00:26
hamadooook andreas thanx00:26
hamadooothanx all of u for help00:27
tehm0nkwhat do i need to install to see FLV videos? like youtube?00:27
ardchoillehamadooo: You can install kubuntu as tekteen suggested or you can download it from here: http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php00:27
hamadoooi will leave now before they kick me out00:27
cheguevara_cheguevara@cheguevara-laptop:~/del/qt4-x11-4.3.3/demos$ qmake-qt4 -project00:27
cheguevara_Failure to open file: /home/cheguevara/del/qt4-x11-4.3.3/demos//demos.pro00:27
hamadooook thanx00:27
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: hey... hows the monitors going?00:27
hamadooobye00:27
jack12does anybody know of any good programs for laptop touchpad sensitivity controls??00:27
tehm0nkthey're okay00:27
tekteentehm0nk: flash00:27
wimpiesHI all, my firefox does not want to load flash 9 although it is installed00:27
tehm0nkkinda weird tho00:27
tehm0nktekteen: do you know the package name?00:27
nosrednaekimjack12: ksynaptics00:27
steveirecheguevara_: OK, forget the -project switch for the minute and just do qmake-qt400:27
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: but they are both finally workning?00:28
tekteentehm0nk: 64 bit or 32?00:28
tehm0nk3200:28
cheguevara_steveire, i know that won't work 'cause there's no Makefile :P00:28
tehm0nkyeah both are working but it's weird00:28
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: flashplugin-nonfree00:28
jack12nosrednaekim: does that work for hp laptops or anything?00:28
steveirecheguevara_: Try it00:28
nosrednaekim!info flashplugin-nonfree00:28
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 156 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)00:28
nosrednaekimcheguevara_: is it cmake?00:28
tekteennosrednaekim: it does not work00:28
tekteennosrednaekim: it gives an error00:28
nosrednaekimtekteen: ah... thats right.. I forgot.00:29
cheguevara_steveire, Failure to open file: /home/cheguevara/del/qt4-x11-4.3.3/demos/Makefile00:29
tekteenI will give u a link00:29
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cheguevara_nosrednaekim, nah its uk it doesn't use cmake00:29
Xbehaveon a toshiba laptop i only get sound though my headphones00:29
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: never mind me.. are you using konqueror or firefox?00:29
tekteenhttp://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz00:30
nosrednaekimcheguevara_: does it have a README or INSTALL file?00:30
wimpiesnosrednaekim : I have that (even a higher) version installed : 9.0.115.0ubuntu2 and the libs.  It also seems firefox is loading them (lsof shows lib) but when I enter a site with flash 9 I get the request to download the flash 900:30
steveirecheguevara_: I'm having some network issues. I'll be back in a minute. have a look at ownership and permissions on those files.00:30
tehm0nkfirefoc00:30
cheguevara_ah acutally you are right00:30
nosrednaekimwimpies: try it in konqueror.00:30
cheguevara_i fetched the files as root00:30
cheguevara_duuuh00:30
wimpiesnosrednaekim : same problem00:30
Pete_^It seems they've changed the flash plugin00:30
steveirecheguevara_: :)00:30
tekteennew update :-D00:31
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: then visit any site that has flash and it should prompt you to install the plugin.00:31
Pete_^flashplugin-nonfree is broken, along with konqueror auto install00:31
Pete_^nosrednaekim: Its broken there too.00:31
nosrednaekimPete_^: Adobe changed it?00:31
tekteenyep00:31
tehm0nkok got it00:31
nosrednaekimoh... wow.00:31
wimpiesPete_^ : indeed I downloaded the tar.gz version extracted the lib, copied all to no avail00:31
ardchoilleflashplugin-nonfree is not broken for me in Gutsy00:32
wimpiesI run feisty00:32
Pete_^nosrednaekim: I believe so00:32
tekteenThey need to update it00:32
tekteenI will find a bug on it00:32
Pete_^ardchoille: not sure what you are doing ;)00:32
ardchoillePete_^: Oh, you mean for new installs?00:33
steveirecheguevara_: sudo chown -R cheguevara_:cheguevara_ qt4-x11-4.3.3 so00:33
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: seems flash is kinda broken, you may not want to install right now... if you can wait a few days it should be fixed.00:33
Pete_^the md5sum of the file has changed, pretty simple. Unless the package has been updated really recently00:33
ardchoilleAh, ok00:33
Pete_^ardchoille: Yes00:33
cheguevara_yeah steveire i know that :P00:33
nosrednaekimcheguevara_: what are you doing that for? its in the repositories..00:33
steveire:-) cool. Is it working this time?00:34
cheguevara_nosrednaekim: yeah I know, steveire wants to show me some bug though :P00:34
wimpiesnosrednaekim : I find it strange since the lib *is* there (I used the tar.gz file at adobe's) but even that does not work.  So is the Adobe version broken ?00:34
cheguevara_steveire, yeah got textedit started00:34
cheguevara_whats the bug then00:34
Pete_^They've changed the version they are hosting recently00:34
nosrednaekimcheguevara_: oh00:34
nosrednaekimwimpies: that seems to be the case00:34
wimpiesnosrednaekim : and will that be fixed in a few days ?00:35
cheguevara_nosrednaekim: never compiled qt or any qt project by hand before, so sound n00b lol00:35
nosrednaekimwimpies: hopefully00:35
steveirecheguevara_: select a word and ctrl+u to toggle underline a few times. The bug is that the first time it underlines the word without toggling the button, second time it toggles the button, and third time it toggles off normally.00:35
nosrednaekimcheguevara_: heh00:36
cheguevara_unlikely that flash will be fixed soon00:36
cheguevara_the patch is not ready yet and the size of it is not stable material00:36
billybobomy boot screen isn't working anymore00:36
nosrednaekimbillybobo: what about it is not working.00:37
cheguevara_steveire, toggled for me from the first time00:37
billybobowhen i buut it used to read, "Kubuntu", and had a progress bar.  Now its just black00:37
billybobo\\when i *boot*...00:37
nosrednaekimbillybobo: did you just swap videocards?00:37
billybobonope00:37
billybobointel card00:37
nosrednaekimor from onboard to PCI-X?00:38
billyboboi've tried dpkg-reconfigure usplash and tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg00:38
steveirecheguevara_: Hmmm... That's interesting. It must mean something's wrong with my box. Bad for me, but probably means kjots4 is ok.00:38
billybobonope same card00:38
steveirecheguevara_: Have a look at the qt tutorial and examples while you have it. Qt's powerful and easy.00:38
nosrednaekimbillybobo: odd, the people who most often report that is those who either have two monitor outputs, or two video cards00:38
billybobonope.00:39
Pete_^for people wondering about flash : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/17389000:39
cheguevara_steveire, which qt version you got?00:39
Pete_^I believe its the same in Gusty too00:39
cheguevara_steveire, qt might be easy C++ is not :P00:39
* nosrednaekim <3 QT00:39
billyboboany suggestions on how to fix it?00:39
steveirecheguevara_: 4.3.2 from kubuntu repos00:39
cheguevara_mine is 4.3.300:39
nosrednaekimpyqt! :D00:39
cheguevara_might be something there00:39
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steveirecheguevara_: Are you sure? Is that what it says in help > about QT?00:40
cheguevara_nosrednaekim, phpqt, FTW :P00:40
steveirecheguevara_: Where did you get it from? A PPA?00:40
andreas__is kubuntu a kind of Debian?00:40
nosrednaekim4.3.2 from gutsy repos..00:40
ardchoille!away > grycAFK00:40
cheguevara_steveire, hardy :P00:40
nosrednaekimlol00:40
steveirecheguevara_: Ah right00:40
nosrednaekimandreas__: yes, it is based on debian00:41
steveirenosrednaekim: Any chance you have qt demos or kde4 installed?00:41
billyboboi've also lost all of my screensavers in KDE!! :(00:41
steveire(And using gutsy :))00:41
andreas__so why do people stick to kubuntu/ubuntu instead of debian?00:41
nosrednaekimsteveire: using KDE4, yes00:42
nosrednaekimbillybobo: yeah, look at the bugs, I heard about that one before00:42
nosrednaekimandreas__: because its simpler and easier00:42
steveirenosrednaekim: Could you check out kjots from svn and confirm a bug for me?00:42
andreas__so it just took the philosophy of debian and made it more approachable00:43
andreas__right?00:43
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billybobook but nothing on the usplash during startup or shutdown?00:43
nosrednaekimsteveire: probably not... i'm on dial-up,and i'd have to get the -dev's as well00:43
steveirenosrednaekim: Ah right00:43
steveirecheers00:43
nosrednaekimbillybobo: not that I kow of... you could try booting a different kernel00:43
billybobothis computer is a gift, to be given tonight... and Kubuntu is falling apart on me :(00:44
nosrednaekimsteveire: sorry...00:44
billybobothere is no other kernel listed, even though it installed a new one this morning00:44
nosrednaekimsteveire: is this a kde bug?00:44
nosrednaekimbillybobo: ok, well, nothing seems to be seriously broken, a missing splash is really nothing to be worried about.00:45
tekteenbillybobo: u may want to reinstall00:45
billyboboeh, but a black screen for 45 seconds isn't promising00:45
nosrednaekimbut the screensavers..... hmm00:45
steveirenosrednaekim: It's from qt, but I don't know if it's something wrong with my box's config/qt4.3.2 bug/kubuntu packages... Trying to track it down00:45
billyboboi've spent hours getting it to this state, not going to do that before tonight... aka in 30m00:45
tekteenbillybobo: click alt+F1 during boot00:45
nosrednaekimbillybobo: take "splash" off the grub line and see text instead :D00:45
billybobohmmm00:45
nosrednaekimsteveire: oh ok... don't want to look dumb when you report it as a bug? :D00:46
tehm0nkhow do i kill a program that isn't responding?00:46
tehm0nkadept manager freaked out on me...00:46
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: "ctrl+esc"00:47
Pete_^tehm0nk: Ksysguard ctrl-etc00:47
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: use synaptic... its generally stabler00:47
steveirenosrednaekim: If it's fixed in4.3.3 I don't think it's worth reporting :)00:47
Pete_^Xkill is good too ;)00:47
Pete_^You have to take more care with that though.00:47
nosrednaekimsteveire: well, it is, because kde4 depends on >=4.3.2 right now, so they will probably want to be aware of it00:47
tehm0nk"Insufficient permissions to kill process #"00:47
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Pete_^tehm0nk: be careful, press ctrl-alt-esc and click on the locked window00:48
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: heh, run this on the command line then "sudo killall -9 adept_manager"00:48
nosrednaekimand then you will have to run a !adeptfix00:48
nosrednaekim!adeptfix00:48
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:48
tehm0nkok all better00:50
tehm0nkwhere does synaptic install to?00:51
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: what do you mean?00:51
tehm0nki can't find it in my menu00:51
nosrednaekimoh... system I think.00:51
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: or "kdesudo synaptic" on the command line'00:52
tehm0nkare any of you gamers?00:53
tehm0nkor better yet, play wow?00:53
bazhangyeah00:53
tehm0nkdid you install wow in kubuntu?00:53
bazhangnot wow--wii00:53
Pete_^I just built a new gaming machine yesterday, but I don't play WoW.00:53
tehm0nkbah, just wondered if i should install wow in vista or here00:54
* nosrednaekim playes Bzflag... and thats about it00:54
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: its possible to do it within wine00:54
nosrednaekimand its been done many many times00:54
tehm0nkand is it better to have an extended to 2nd screen setup with dual monitors or 2 X screens?00:55
nosrednaekim!WoW00:55
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php00:55
bazhangvery good under wine iirc tehm0nk00:55
Pete_^tehm0nk: Depends what you want to do00:55
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: extended is harder to set up usually00:55
tehm0nkso is dual X screens00:55
tehm0nkfor some reason the second one is like... weird00:55
nosrednaekimlike how?00:55
tehm0nkthe menubar is super basic00:55
tehm0nkdoesn't look like the other one00:56
nosrednaekimmenubar for what.00:56
Pete_^I remember that00:56
tehm0nkand my other one lost stuff00:56
tehm0nknosrednaekim: at the bottom of the screen00:56
tehm0nkthe taskbar i guess00:56
Pete_^I personally prefer twinview or xinerama00:56
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: oh.... kicker and two desktops...00:56
tehm0nkif you maximize something does it go BOTH screens or just the one?00:56
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: yeah, i've never messed with dual monitors.. projector is as far as I've gotten.00:57
tehm0nk(pete)00:57
Pete_^tehm0nk: Depends how you set it up00:57
Pete_^I like it to maximise to one screen00:57
tehm0nkright same with me00:57
tehm0nkbut i dont know what to do to make it setup right...00:57
nosrednaekim!dualhead00:57
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama00:57
tehm0nki'd Like to be able to drag things to the other screen00:57
Pete_^Twinview is good if you have one nvidia card outputting to two screens, xinerama is good if you have a more complicated setup but 3d acceleration across multiple screens isn't such of an issue00:58
nosrednaekimso its really running two whole xservers?00:58
tehm0nknosrednaekim: Duh been there :-P00:58
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: figures ;)00:58
tehm0nkwell i have 2 videocards :-x00:58
Pete_^I don't know if theres an ATI driver based solution00:58
tehm0nk1 monitor on each00:58
tehm0nkPete_^: you good witht he xorg.conf file?00:59
Pete_^tehm0nk: I wouldn't say good, but if needed I can have a look I suppose00:59
tehm0nki could pastebin mine and you tell me what to change to make it the way i'd like?00:59
Pete_^tehm0nk: I'll give it a shot01:00
tehm0nkok cool01:00
tehm0nklemme get the current one and pastebin...01:00
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: have you tried messing in the monitor and display section of systemsettings?01:00
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tehm0nkcan i do something like "sudo kate blabblah" to open it01:00
Pete_^if you are reading kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf will do fine01:01
tehm0nknosrednaekim: that for my setup is what cause SO many problems01:01
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: ah...01:01
tehm0nki use "kdesudo nvidia-settings"01:01
Pete_^to write use kdesudo01:01
tehm0nk!pastebin01:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:01
tehm0nkArgh if i click a link...01:02
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tehm0nkit just sits there and does nothing.01:02
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nosrednaekimtehm0nk: what just sits there.01:02
tehm0nkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48960/01:02
tehm0nkit opens a window that says "loading progress"01:03
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: oh.....01:03
Pete_^So you have two 8600 gt's?01:03
tehm0nkyup01:03
tehm0nkand 2 of the same LCD monitors01:03
nosrednaekimthat makes things easier I would think01:04
Pete_^It helps I suppose, but it doesn't really matter01:04
Pete_^Just a question, are these cards in a SLi configuration?01:05
tehm0nkthe connector is connected but no it's not enabled01:05
nosrednaekimyou can do SLI and dualhead at the same time?01:05
tehm0nkthat is enabled through drivers anyways01:05
Pete_^I don't think so?01:05
tehm0nknosrednaekim: No.01:05
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: I'd remve the cable....01:06
tehm0nki didn't know that till i had installed it...01:06
Pete_^sadly you can't use twinview (so thats proper acceleration down the drain..)01:06
tehm0nknosrednaekim: dont need to, Drivers enable it01:06
tehm0nkpete what do you mean?01:06
tehm0nkif i use xinerama can i still?01:06
Pete_^twinview works with the binary nvidia driver, and one card01:06
tehm0nkright01:06
Pete_^You can with xinerama, but performance is degraded01:07
tehm0nkbut i mean compiz works on the other monitor too01:07
tehm0nkbut the biggest thing is i'd like to be able to Drag things to the other monitor01:07
Pete_^You will be able to with xinerama01:08
tehm0nkbut if i lose all kinds of performance... i'll just open the other stuff over there lol01:08
tehm0nkpete do you use that kdesudo nvidia-settings method?01:10
Pete_^tehm0nk: I have a pretty complicated setup, two graphics cards, three monitors, so no.01:11
Pete_^Try this config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48963/01:11
Pete_^make sure to have a copy of the working one01:11
Pete_^sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.working01:11
Pete_^in a terminal01:11
tehm0nkright i have a copy already01:11
tehm0nkquestion01:12
tehm0nkis that extra monitor in there neccessary?01:12
tehm0nk"Generic Monitor"01:12
tehm0nkand "Default Screen"01:12
Pete_^I think you could remove the monitor identifed by "Generic Monitor", although I think you may be missing a section Screen001:13
Pete_^Infact I'm talking rubbish01:14
Pete_^Its there, I just didn't see it for some reason01:14
tehm0nkok lemme restart X01:14
Pete_^remember how to fix it if X doesn't start01:14
Pete_^too late..01:14
Downix_SPARCanyone familiar with adding new options to a configure script?01:15
nosrednaekimPete_^: uhh oh.... taking a while...01:16
nosrednaekim<_<01:17
Pete_^I was thinking the same01:17
Pete_^I should have explained how to copy it BACK too01:17
Pete_^hopefully he has another machine at his disposal01:17
nosrednaekimmmhm01:17
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nosrednaekimPete_^: I think he does from my previous experience w/him01:18
Pete_^Thats something atleast01:18
Pete_^tehm0nk: I take it that didn't work.01:19
tehm0nkit worked01:20
tehm0nkbut01:20
tehm0nki dont know what you changed? lol01:20
tehm0nkand i have this weird thing happening...01:20
tehm0nkhttp://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v191/iRm0nk/?action=view&current=whatthe.jpg01:20
tehm0nkthere is this weird adept updater thing popping up sorta when i login01:20
Pete_^are your windows meant to have that funky boarder?01:21
tehm0nkthat icon is Normally on the taskbar on the bottom right...01:21
Pete_^shadow kinda thing.01:21
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: you using compiz?01:21
* nosrednaekim didn't look at the SS01:21
Pete_^Sure looks like it to me01:21
tehm0nki dont know if it's supposed to be Blue like that completely01:21
tehm0nkyes Compiz01:21
Pete_^I didn't even know Compiz was working with Xinerama yet, last I checked it totally died01:22
tehm0nkhmm01:22
Pete_^It did work a long long time ago01:22
tehm0nkright now xinerama is enabled01:22
tehm0nkbut...01:22
tehm0nki've got two x screens still...01:22
Pete_^and you are unable to move stuff between them?01:22
tehm0nknope lol01:23
tehm0nkOh but i'm still lost on that adept notifier, and why it's there...01:23
tehm0nknot on the bar...01:23
Pete_^I think Compiz is to blame01:24
Downix_SPARCATI or nVidia?01:24
nosrednaekimyeah... thats certain;y a compoz problem01:24
tehm0nk!compiz01:24
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion01:24
Pete_^Nvidia01:24
sub[t]rnltry restarting the kicker01:24
sub[t]rnlto fix those icons01:24
Pete_^Do you have a Wacom tablet or am I free to remove them?01:24
Downix_SPARCit looks like the same error I got with an older ATI driver01:25
Pete_^"dcop kicker kicker restart" for reference01:25
Downix_SPARCwas a mix-up between the driver and DRI turned out01:25
sub[t]rnlalso I've noticed if you start another app that uses the system tray, when its icon pops up, the others will go in place01:25
tehm0nkremove them01:25
sub[t]rnllike kwalletmanager or something01:25
Pete_^(I do have a Wacom tablet, so they came in handy infact ;) )01:25
tehm0nki just turned Off Compiz :(01:25
tehm0nkhow do i make it Not startup with login tho?01:26
sub[t]rnlcompiz? remove it from the ~/.kde/Autostart/ directory01:27
tehm0nksub[t]rnl: where is that?01:28
tehm0nklol01:28
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: onless you messed with your .xsession01:28
Pete_^Another revision01:28
Pete_^http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48965/01:28
nosrednaekimtehm0nk: how did you get it to autostart?01:28
sub[t]rnltehm0nk➜ your home dir01:28
sub[t]rnlcd ~/.kde/Autostart/01:28
sub[t]rnlthat is if you created a startup script in there01:29
sub[t]rnlif your session is just reloading it, go to system settings -> advanced -> session manager and turn it off01:29
tehm0nkwhats the command to delete something?01:30
Pete_^rm01:30
sub[t]rnlrm01:30
sigmahas anyone here used filezilla in kubuntu?01:30
tehm0nkok got that gone lemme paste that pastebin lol01:30
Pete_^remember, if you get stuck hit ctrl-alt-f1, login, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.working /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:31
blizzzekgn801:31
Pete_^I just got worried last time ;)01:31
tehm0nkbrb01:33
tehm0nksame thing01:34
tehm0nkbut it fixed that stupid adept notifier thing01:34
tehm0nkmaybe cause compiz is gone but still01:34
Pete_^My cpu seems to sit around 30-35°C with just a case fan, with a fan on the cooler it drops to around 20°C, I can't decide if its worth it. It would let me run the case fan a bit slower..01:34
Pete_^Yes, it will be because compiz is gone01:34
tehm0nkwhich i think that problem is fixable01:35
tehm0nkbut still can't drag things across screen01:35
Pete_^It should be01:35
nosrednaekimPete_^: what CPU us that?01:35
nosrednaekimvia?01:35
sigmaPete_^: the cooler the better:)01:35
tehm0nktwo servers still01:35
sigmaPete_^: yeah what cpu is that, its extremely cool01:36
Pete_^can you pastebin your Xorg.0.log please, its un /var/log/.01:36
Pete_^Intel Q6600.01:36
Pete_^;)01:36
nosrednaekimPete_^: underclocked?01:36
Pete_^Nope01:36
Pete_^Just a massive cooler01:36
nosrednaekimwow!01:36
sigmaPete_^: is that new or old?01:36
nosrednaekimsigma: very new01:37
Pete_^New(ish), 2.4ghz quad core01:37
Pete_^New to me, yesterday01:37
lovedeatmin terminal i typed in mount /media/sda1 /dev/sda/ and i get specify filesystem type how do i do this properly?01:37
Pete_^lovedeatm: -t filesystem01:37
sigmaPete_^: how on earth did u manage that temperature!01:37
tehm0nk!pastebin01:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:37
nosrednaekimlovedeatm: #1... you have the two options witched01:37
sigmaintels are known for overheating01:37
nosrednaekimlovedeatm: #2, you have to say "/dev/sda2"01:37
tehm0nkhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48966/01:37
Pete_^sigma: with one of these : thermaltake ifx-1401:38
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nosrednaekimsigma: I think you are thinking of pentium fours01:38
lovedeatmpete_^, could you show me how to type it peroperly01:38
sigmayeah but whats the diff with the new ones?01:38
nosrednaekimsigma: big difference.01:38
Pete_^lovedeatm: mount -t xxxx /dev/sda1 /mount/point01:38
Pete_^what format is the disk you are trying to mount? Is it windows?01:39
sigmatime for me to go to another intel conference, seems alot has changed01:39
lovedeatmpete_^, xxx being the file type01:39
Pete_^Huge difference with core 201:39
lovedeatmntfs...01:39
nosrednaekimPete_^: probably no need for the -t stuff, he had the options in the wrong order, and wasn't pointing to an actual partition01:39
Pete_^well, more core01:39
sigmaPete_^: but do the quad cores work properly in kubuntu?01:39
nosrednaekimsigma: course!01:40
Pete_^mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mount/point  to create the mountpoint do sudo mkdir /mount/point -p   (Where the mount point is where you wish to create it!)01:40
Pete_^As said, you might not need -t ntfs01:40
Pete_^Yes, it seems to be working fine01:40
Pete_^I'd rather have gone for one of the Phenoms, but with the TLB bug I had to pass sadly01:41
Pete_^(As I was not waiting any longer for a new system)01:41
sigma4 proc's in one, thats just too tempting! a bit out of my price range though, suppose my amd64 will have to do for now01:41
nosrednaekimPete_^: just need a patched kernel ;)01:41
sigmaPete_^: Phenoms?01:41
nosrednaekimsigma: quad-core AMDs01:41
tehm0nkbrb again...01:42
Pete_^sigma: The new AMD processors, not on performance par with the latest intels, but the 9600 is with the q6600, and its a true quad core01:42
tehm0nkis there a command for terminal to restart X?01:42
Pete_^tehm0nk: /etc/init.d/kdm restart01:42
sigmanosrednaekim: yea i heard about them, apparently amd changed the socket completely01:42
Pete_^although that won't work if the terminal is inside X01:42
Jay-Oh-Ennosrednaekim: i saw one online for 4000 what a rip! i could build my own for cheaper01:42
nosrednaekimsigma: nope, still AM201:42
Pete_^AM2+ processors will work in AM2 motherboards, just not to their full extent01:43
nosrednaekimJay-Oh-En: yeah... high end gaming is best home-built01:43
sigmanosrednaekim: yea that one, i thought they were still on 93901:43
Jay-Oh-Ennosrednaekim: thats what i do :[ but not anymore since i run linux01:43
Pete_^I just made a big mistake with the motherboard01:43
Jay-Oh-Ensigma: thats the chipset01:44
sigmabut amd always has been winning the heat war and especially where i live its important to have a cool cpu01:44
Pete_^Haha, look at the latest FX CPU;s01:44
sigmaPete_^: What did u do?01:44
Pete_^CPU's01:44
Pete_^sigma: I got a P35 chipset'd board, I hadn't realised you needed a nforce chipset board to do SLi..01:45
tehm0nkOK... got xinerama working01:45
tehm0nkand one big desktop01:45
EroickHow do I get my widescreen working and the res higher in KDE? I think taht the vesa driver isnt cutting it. my card is an ATI Radion Xpress 20001:45
tehm0nkbut theyre backwards! lol01:45
Pete_^tehm0nk: Great! What did you change?01:45
nosrednaekimhaha... FX's :D01:45
Jay-Oh-EnEroick: your on a compaq?01:45
EroickJay-Oh-En: acer.01:45
Pete_^tehm0nk: Change the line like "Screen0" leftOf "Screen1"01:45
nosrednaekimPete_^: supposedly nuveau will allow you to do SLI on any chipset01:45
Jay-Oh-EnEroick: oh ok01:45
Pete_^to either be the other way round, or change leftOf to rightOf01:46
EroickJay-Oh-En: is compaq even around anymore?01:46
Jay-Oh-Enyeah01:46
Pete_^nosrednaekim: I'll have to take a look01:46
nosrednaekimEroick: what model?01:46
nosrednaekimEroick: I have an acer.01:46
Eroicknosrednaekim: Of acer? Aspire something01:46
nosrednaekimPete_^: well, it can't do it yet. but its planned.01:46
tehm0nkbrb again lol01:47
nosrednaekimEroick: ok, well, you will probably need the fglrx driver, get it with the restricted-manager tool01:47
Pete_^I have to use the nvidia beta driver anyway, the G92's aren't supported under the latest stable yet01:47
Pete_^nosrednaekim: Ah, ok.01:47
tehm0nktadaaaa!01:48
tehm0nkOK must go get food with gf01:48
tehm0nkdont ever get between women and food...01:48
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nosrednaekimtehm0nk: so its working?01:48
tehm0nk-g0nelolyeah01:49
tehm0nk-g0neit's working jus fine01:49
tehm0nk-g0nenow01:49
tehm0nk-g0nebrb tho01:49
nosrednaekim!helpersnack | Pete_^01:49
ubotuPete_^: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!01:49
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Pete_^Hurray01:49
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Pete_^I will have to keep an eye on nouveau01:49
Eroickwhy doesn't kubuntu have the Restricted Driver manager built in?01:51
ardchoilleEroick: Are you running Gutsy?01:51
EroickFiesty01:51
Pete_^It does, but only in Gusty01:51
ardchoilleEroick: It's new in Gutsy01:51
Eroickah01:52
Eroickwhich is 8.?01:52
Pete_^7.1001:52
nosrednaekimEroick: get the ubuntu version, works fine "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager"01:52
ardchoilleno, 7.1001:52
Pete_^Curent stable release01:52
Pete_^Current*01:52
ardchoillePete_^: It comes with a spellchecker too01:52
* ardchoille ducks01:52
Eroickah, this was installed with Wubi01:53
Pete_^Its turned off by default in Kopete though, and breaks if you turn it on as it tries to replace the html code ;)01:53
Eroickanyway, ive gotta restart x now, bye01:54
BluesKajRestricted Driver Manger can be found in Add Remove Programs01:55
BluesKajerr Manager ...guess i've got Christmas Nativity scenes on my mind :)01:56
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Eroickanyway, i tried that driver01:57
Pete_^http://www.thermalright.com/a_images/pic/ifx-14.jpg there is the CPU cooler if anyone is interested01:57
Eroickbut it creates a black screen with some black bars (slightly brighter) that jump around01:57
Eroickand i have to CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE out01:58
Jay-Oh-Ensub[t]rnl: !!!!01:58
Pete_^(So its not thermaltake as I said earlier, its thermalright, thermaltake makes thermal paste, my bad.)01:58
Pete_^I'm still wrong there01:59
Eroickok, now i get a crosshatching patter01:59
Pete_^Thermaltake made my last cpu cooler, just ignore me.01:59
nosrednaekimEroick: ok... no kde though?02:00
Eroicknope02:00
nosrednaekimEroick: did you reboot?02:00
Eroicknope.02:01
Eroickjust did an x restart02:01
Eroickah, its a kernel thing02:01
Eroickbrb....02:01
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sMonkIs there a way to install RealPlayer?02:20
ardchoille!realplayer | sMonk02:22
ubotusMonk: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:22
BluesKajsMonk, at the realplayer site there's a download for linux02:22
Tm_Tgood morning/day/evening ardchoille BluesKaj and others02:24
nosrednaekimhey Tm_T02:24
sMonkyeah, it's a .bin .. I never have luck installing them02:25
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sMonkIf I could get some help installing the .bin file, then that'd be ok02:27
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bazhangsMonk: there are instructions at the site02:28
sMonkoh02:29
sMonkok02:29
BluesKajhi Tm_T...sorry was getting some juice02:32
BluesKajsMonk,in the terminal , cd to the file dir , then ./filename.bin02:34
Downix_SPARCdoes anyone know what bin format Ubuntu SPARC is in?02:34
Downix_SPARCELF?02:35
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sMonkBluesKaj: Yeah I did that once, and it put the install dir on my Desktop02:42
BluesKajsMonk, normally installs go to your /home/yourusername dir if you leave it as default02:46
BluesKajerr downloads , not installs02:47
deroHow do you cut something out with the path tool in gimp?02:49
deroAnyone in here?02:49
Downix_SPARCyup02:51
DDRWe're here, we just have no idea how to do what you want to do.02:59
Downix_SPARCI'm just trying to figure out how to add another CPU target to a configure script03:01
bazhanghttp://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Drawing_Shapes/ dero03:01
sMonkOK, I installed the .bin file for RealPayer, AKA Helix, but every time I try to play a movie, it tells me a "Bad Transport" error03:01
flaccidthink deror went to get some methyl03:01
flaccidsMonk: did you google that error?03:02
bazhangoops03:02
bazhangjoins/exits not visible here ;}03:02
flacciddang03:02
Downix_SPARCthis is perplexing03:04
Downix_SPARCI've mirrored the other CPU's in the list, yet it still cannot figure out a SPARC03:05
flaccidnot sure if anyone here can help on that Downix_SPARC03:05
flaccideven i don't compile much03:05
Downix_SPARCnot enough apps compiled for SPARC, so need to roll my own03:06
flaccidwhat sort of device is it, a desktop computer?03:07
CrankymonkyWhat is a good CPU speed and temp applet for KDE?03:07
nosrednaekimCrankymonky: ksysgaurd will do it fine03:07
Downix_SPARCflaccid:  low level workstation.03:08
Crankymonkynosrednaekim, Thanks03:08
Downix_SPARCflaccid: also have a desktop and a server model handy as well, but using the ws for the port03:08
nosrednaekimCrankymonky: cept' a spelled that wrong03:08
sMonkhow do I make sure that FireFox is trying to use the correct plugin?03:09
sMonkfor RealPlayer03:09
nosrednaekimabout:config03:09
sMonkI went through something sim with MPlayer,03:09
flaccidcooolio. i bbs03:10
Crankymonkynosrednaekim: that's cool.  Any good dictionary applet for KDE?  That was by far the coolest thing ever in gnome.03:10
nosrednaekimCrankymonky: probably.03:11
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Downix_SPARC./configure: line 8604: syntax error near unexpected token `('03:12
Downix_SPARC./configure: line 8604: `  echo $ECHO_N "(cached) $ECHO_C" >&6'03:12
Downix_SPARCThe line:03:13
Downix_SPARC./configure: line 8604: syntax error near unexpected token `('03:13
Downix_SPARC./configure: line 8604: `  echo $ECHO_N "(cached) $ECHO_C" >&6'03:13
Downix_SPARCgrr03:13
Downix_SPARCThe line:  { echo "$as_me:$LINENO: result: $MMAKE" >&503:13
nosrednaekimDownix_SPARC: people at #linux might know more03:13
Downix_SPARCgood point03:13
Xbehaveive installed through wubi, and only about half my boots leave me in a workable enviroment, the rest leave me with a useless x and ttys that die if i switch out of them03:13
Tm_TXbehave: wubi?03:14
cloneyinhello03:15
nosrednaekimXbehave: yeah, well, Wubi isn't officialy supported AFAIK03:15
cloneyinI have a question03:15
nosrednaekimTm_T: installation from within windows03:15
nosrednaekimcloneyin: ask :D03:15
Tm_TI thought so03:15
cloneyinthanks03:15
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: it isn't supported03:15
Xbehaveonce im in kubuntu its like a kubuntu system tho. how do i go about finding the cause of problems?03:17
cloneyinI have HD,its a sata and the filesystem is Fat 32 but no OS installed just data and movies I ripped, the hard drive is from WD and the eclosure i got for it is called Nexstar 3 and able to just pkug in the system on USB ports, but when iplug it in my ubuntu system ,italunches the pop-up window to open in another windows but it never does, do i need filesystem uspport for it installed support for fat3203:18
cloneyin?03:18
Tm_Tit's supported03:18
cloneyinthe window never comes up03:19
cloneyinlike my sony 4gb flash drive03:19
cloneyin i plug into the usb port, it works03:19
Tm_Tcloneyin: open konqueror and go media:/03:19
cloneyinbut never does with the hard drive03:19
cloneyinok, let me try that03:19
cloneyinthanks03:19
Tm_Tnp03:19
alcorhelp!!! use eeePC???03:20
Tm_T!helpme | alcor03:20
ubotualcor: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience03:20
cloneyinnothing in the media, only cdrom003:20
sMonkThanks all, got RealPlayer workign03:20
nosrednaekimgreat sMonk!03:20
Tm_Tcloneyin: and HD is plugged in?03:20
cloneyinyeah , the HD is plugged in03:21
Tm_Tcloneyin: interesting03:21
cloneyinon usb port03:21
alcorPlease,help me03:21
sMonkI found my problem.. I didn't sudo ./RealPlayer I just ./RealPayer.. so I needed to install as root03:21
Tm_Tcloneyin: unplug, open Konsole, plugin and run dmesg03:21
nosrednaekimcloneyin: what does "dmesg tail 10" say?03:21
cloneyinI tell you, it launches the pop-up window saying eopn it onanother window andafew other choices03:21
cloneyinok,let me try that03:21
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: heh, like to "take him" ?03:21
Crankymonkynosrednaekim: Is there an option I'm missing that let's the CPU temp be shown in the applet of ksysguard03:21
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: I'm bit busy03:21
nosrednaekimTm_T: fo shizzle03:22
hydrogenthats not englishizzle03:22
nosrednaekim!sensors | Crankymonky03:22
ubotuCrankymonky: You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto03:22
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: I take that as yes, soo, thanks ;)03:22
nosrednaekim:D03:22
alcorPlease,help me how to use KDE4 RC2 .iso03:22
Crankymonkynosrednaekim: Much appreciated03:22
cloneyinwhen IM pkug into the usb port, it ask me to open in new window or open with digikam or do nothing03:22
Crankymonkyalcor, burn the iso03:23
nosrednaekimalcor: on a eeepc? do you have an external cd drive?03:23
Tm_Talcor: don't yell "help me", just state your issue clearly, and wait.03:23
Crankymonkyburn the image contained in the iso03:23
nosrednaekimcloneyin: and what do you say?03:23
alcori en not good!03:23
cloneyinhttp://rapidshare.com/files/77656667/The.Invasion.PROPER.DVDRip.XviD-iMBT.part6.rar03:23
cloneyinsorry03:24
cloneyin[ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)03:24
cloneyinI get that on dmesg03:24
alcornosrednaekim, i not cd drive03:24
cloneyin[ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)03:24
nosrednaekimalcor: then its going to be very very difficult03:24
ardchoillealcor: What is your native language?03:24
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cloneyinTm_T, that is what I got03:24
cloneyinshould i mount it?03:24
hamadooobacj03:24
BluesKajsacktime , nite all03:24
hamadoooback03:24
cloneyinor its mounted already03:24
alcorardchoille, i use cn03:24
ardchoille!cn03:25
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk03:25
nosrednaekimcloneyin: thats it?nothing above that... no its not mounted if thats all.03:25
hdevalencecloneyin: if dmesg is giving you rapidshare URLS there's something wrong with your computer :P03:25
nosrednaekimhaha03:25
ardchoillelol03:25
hamadoooguy's in windows i used to use a program calls ares for downloading files and songs03:25
hamadoooi want to do that in ubuntu is there any program like that plz03:25
alcorubotu, that nobody use KDE403:25
cloneyinhd, sorry the one I pasted was myprevious thing in the clipboard03:25
ardchoille!bot | alcor03:25
ubotualcor: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:25
cloneyin[ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)03:26
ardchoillehamadooo: kget is a nice download manager03:26
hamadoooard .. download manger like kaza and ares ????03:26
nosrednaekimhamadooo: are you talking torrents?03:26
Tm_T...03:26
Tm_T!warez03:26
ubotupiracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o03:26
hamadooono no .... ares and kaza are different from torrent03:26
ardchoillehamadooo: You need to remember, this is Linux, it's a whole different world. You may need to change some of the things you've done in the past.03:26
alcorardchoille, i want run iso bat install it03:27
ardchoillealcor: You need to burn the iso file as an image to a blank cd then boot fro it.03:27
hamadoooyeah i know ard .. but it must be any program like that03:27
cloneyin[ 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)03:27
dsmithWhere is a good place to start for whle disk encryption for Linux?03:27
hamadooodownloading like kaza03:27
Tm_Thamadooo: see what ubotu said03:27
cloneyinhow do i mount this?03:27
dsmith*whole03:27
hamadooothey ignore me all the time03:27
hdevalencealcor: since the eeePC has no CD drive, you need to use a USB key03:27
Tm_T!warez | hamadooo03:28
ubotuhamadooo: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o03:28
hamadoooi did change the brightness of my laptop and that's cool03:28
cloneyin[ 4147.925693] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb03:28
cloneyin[ 4147.925753] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 003:28
hamadooooh ok03:28
hamadooosorry03:28
Tm_Tnp03:28
nosrednaekimcloneyin: could you pastebin the last 100 or so lines of dmesg?03:28
ardchoillehamadooo: How long did it take you to install kubuntu?03:28
cloneyinhow can i mount this?03:28
Tm_Tcloneyin: no need to repeat :-P03:28
cloneyinsorry03:29
hamadoooi didn't download kubuntu i still use ubuntu03:29
ardchoillehamadooo: Then you really need to be in #ubuntu03:29
alcorhdevalence, yes i have one 1G usb key.but i not how to do!03:29
Theverantanyone here Avidemux?  I want to import multiple images and I need a way to do many at once, instead of one at a time.  Any ideas?03:29
hamadoooi don't know what's wrong with them they keep ignore me03:29
hamadoooanyways thanx03:29
flaccidcloneyin: hal should pop up and ask you03:30
flaccidotherwise do sudo fdisk -l to see the device name for the partition in questin and then see !fstab and !ntfs on how to mount manually03:30
cloneyinit does,I chose Open inNew         window  but it never opens it03:30
cloneyinI amstill waiting03:30
hdevalencealcor: let me look into it03:30
flaccidmight be something wrong with that part/fs. see if it is mounted in mount03:30
nosrednaekimcloneyin: pastebin your dmesg please..03:31
cloneyin  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System03:31
cloneyin/dev/sdb1               1       60801   488384001    7  HPFS/NTFS03:31
cloneyinit sees it03:31
cloneyinhmmm03:31
cloneyindmesg03:31
cloneyin 4147.908487] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)03:32
flaccidpastebin | cloneyin03:32
cloneyin[ 4147.910734] sdb: Write Protect is off03:32
cloneyin[ 4147.910740] sdb: Mode Sense: 38 00 00 0003:32
cloneyin[ 4147.910744] sdb: assuming drive cache: write through03:32
flaccid!pastebin > cloneyin03:32
hdevalencealcor: http://trenteee.blogspot.com/2007/12/howto-install-ubuntu-on-eee-pc-with_10.html03:32
cloneyin[ 4147.911733] SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)03:32
flaccidplease learn pastebin first cloneyin03:32
flacciddanke03:32
alcorhdevalence, i can open it03:33
alcorhdevalence, i can't open it03:33
XbehaveTm_T: torrent and kaza arnt neciserilly warez they can be used to exchange data thatslegl too03:37
alcorhdevalence, i can't open http://trenteee.blogspot.com/2007/12/howto-install-ubuntu-on-eee-pc-with_10.html03:37
Tm_TXbehave: I know03:37
Tm_TXbehave: I didn't say he is talking about anything illegal, did I?03:37
hitmanWillykubu does releases via torrents03:38
hdevalencealcor:it works for me. are you in mainland china?03:38
alcorhdevalence, mainlan china?03:39
flaccidi wonder what those eee are like. is that the asus one is it?03:39
Tm_Tasus yes03:40
hdevalencealcor: is it possible it could be blocked by the chinese government?03:40
alcorhdevalence, what is mainland china?03:40
flaccidsweet03:40
Kubuntu_Mhello!!!03:40
Kubuntu_Manybody?03:40
Kubuntu_Mneed help here03:40
flaccidanybody what03:41
Tm_T!helpme | Kubuntu_M03:41
ubotuKubuntu_M: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience03:41
hdevalencealcor: all of china except for hong kong03:41
Tm_T!patience | Kubuntu_M03:41
ubotuKubuntu_M: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:41
cloneyinok I already pastebin the dmesg03:41
cloneyincan someone please check03:41
cloneyinthanks03:41
flaccidthats not what i asked cloneyin03:41
somekoolHi there.03:41
somekoolI am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg03:41
nosrednaekimcloneyin: sorry! I have to go!03:42
Kubuntu_Mwhat apt can you suggest to record a video online?03:42
flaccidcheck mount and see if its mounted or not03:42
Kubuntu_Mthat works like a snapshot03:42
alcorhdevalence, maybe03:43
cloneyin ityped mount and it does not show sdb03:43
hdevalencealcor: the chinese government blocks stuff like blogs. maybe that is why it does not open03:43
Kubuntu_Mcloneyin: try using ntfs-3g03:44
Kubuntu_M!repeat03:44
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience03:44
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Kubuntu_Mwhat apt can you suggest to record a playing video that works like a snapshot?03:45
alcorhdevalence, how to do whit me?03:45
Tm_TKubuntu_M: you are repeating, you notice?03:46
flaccidcloneyin: i don't know what your problem is. mount it manual.03:46
Kubuntu_Mim sorry03:46
cloneyinhow to mount it03:46
flaccidi showed you before03:47
flaccid[14:30] <flaccid> otherwise do sudo fdisk -l to see the device name for the partition in questin and then see !fstab and !ntfs on how to mount manually03:47
cloneyinit sees the drive by fdisk03:47
flaccidyou can read the guides to learn how to mount in fstab03:47
Kubuntu_M!fstab03:48
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions03:48
flaccid!ntfs03:48
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE03:48
flaccidthats a better guide03:48
cloneyinthanks03:49
hdevalencealcor: I can email you the instructions03:49
flaccidnp03:49
alcorhdevalence, my email :alcor_yy@hoymail.com03:54
sMonkOk, how do I chage FireFox to use the mplayer instead of VLC?03:58
hdevalencealcor: did you get the email03:59
alcorhdevalence, seeing04:00
hdevalencealcor: I have to go, sorry. I hope the thing I gave you helps.04:03
OseIn Dolphin I keep getting "Unable to save bookmarks... Permission denied" Says most likely cause is a full HD but I have plenty of free space.04:05
sub[t]rnlhrm04:06
FatalErrormaybe the permissions/ownership are wrong on your config files/directory?04:06
OseWhen I first got the error, it was completely full, if that makes a difference.04:06
sub[t]rnlOse➜ try sudo chown yourusername .kde/shares/apss/d3lphin/bookmarks04:07
sub[t]rnltry sudo chown yourusername .kde/shares/apss/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml04:07
sub[t]rnleven04:07
OseYay! Thanks.04:08
flaccidor sudo chown -R `whoami` ~/.kde/shares/apps/d3lphin04:09
OseAh I know who I am :P Not *that* new.04:09
flaccidhehe. i guess it just makes it a nice generic command :p04:09
OseMm. How about transparency.. Is it supposed to only show the background through the window?04:10
hydrogenits supposed to make the window transparent04:12
hydrogenallowing anything behind it to show through04:12
OseThat's what I thought.. It just shows the background. Windows are hidden.04:13
hydrogenare the windows behind it or are they minimized?04:13
OseThey're straight behind it.04:14
cloneyinflaccid, from konqueror  desktop ,  i clicked on /mnt folder it says i  have no permission04:16
cloneyinIsuccessfully mounted it04:16
cloneyinbut not allowing sudo04:16
cloneyinonly root04:16
cloneyinso i did su04:16
cloneyinthen go to /mnt04:16
cloneyinand I can access the hd but only interminal04:17
cloneyinhow can I change to root from konquesror04:17
flacciddid you read the doc properly. show me your fstab entry04:18
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wwbwwbhello04:25
wwbwwb大家好04:25
snowdonkeyHi.  How can I see the make and model of my motherboard and video card?04:25
wwbwwb啊哈哈04:25
alcorwwbwwb, 你好!04:26
wwbwwb你好,没想到还有懂中文的 呵呵04:26
bazhang!cn | wwbwwb04:27
ubotuwwbwwb: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道: #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk04:27
wwbwwbthanks ubotu04:28
bazhangsnowdonkey: lspci for video card04:28
cloneyinflaccid, it does not show on fstab04:31
cloneyinhowever i did mtab andit shows there04:32
sub[t]rnlsnowdonkey➜ maybe kinfocenter in the kmenu for your motherboard04:32
sub[t]rnlsnowdonkey➜ or sudo dmidecode04:32
snowdonkeybazhang: Thanks, I found it that way.04:32
flaccidcloneyin: read the guide!!04:32
cloneyinflaccid, on mtab /dev/sdb /mnt ntfs rw 0 004:32
flaccidit tells you how to do it in fstab04:32
flaccidyeah sdb is the drive not the partition...04:33
snowdonkeysub[t]rnl: Ok, looking through dmidecode now04:33
flaccidso maybe you want /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mountpoint ntfs rw 0 004:33
flaccidyou don't want to mount to /mnt either...04:33
flaccidyou need to create a mount point04:33
flaccidyou might also want user mount. /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mountpoint ntfs user,rw 0 004:34
cloneyinalso shows this /dev/sdb /mnt/sdb1 ntfs rw 0 004:34
flaccidthats not going to work either. delete them.04:34
cloneyinon mtab04:34
cloneyinbut I can connect to it as su04:34
flacciddelete them from mtab and do it properly in fstab as per the guides and what i said04:34
cloneyinI am copying movies now04:34
flaccidthats because you need the user option, cloneyin to do user mounts.. also the mountpoint needs perms suffice for the user04:35
snowdonkeysub[t]rnl: Would the motherboard be "Base Board Information"?04:35
flaccidlearning to user mount is far better than just doing root.04:35
cloneyinok, need to elarn this one04:35
sub[t]rnlsnowdonkey➜ yup04:35
cloneyinlearn*04:35
snowdonkeysub[t]rnl: Awesome, thanks a lot.04:35
cloneyincat /etc/fstab04:36
se7eni need help how do i fix this ... kdebase-runtime-bin: Depends: kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 (= 4:3.97.0-1ubuntu5~gutsy1~ppa1) but it is not installed04:39
se7ensomebody know how to fix unmet dependencies04:41
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install -f04:42
se7ensub[t]rnl: i tried that ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)04:45
sub[t]rnlse7en: sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get install -f04:46
se7enthanks sub[t]rnl that worked04:46
sub[t]rnlnp04:50
Xbehavei have a blacklisted ati driver should i try using compiz anyway?04:52
dr_willisI would say No.04:53
dr_willis:)04:53
sub[t]rnlhehe, you can un blacklist it04:54
sub[t]rnland try04:54
Xbehaveis it that bad worse than beryl days?04:54
sub[t]rnlnot sure what you mean by bad worse04:55
sub[t]rnledit /usr/bin/compiz and add ati to WHITELIST=04:55
lukosanthroposHi04:57
sub[t]rnlGreetings lukosanthropos, Welcome to #Kubuntu04:57
lukosanthroposI was wondering if anyone could tell me where i can go to set file associations04:57
Tm_TKonqueror has them in its settings04:57
Tm_Tother place is kcontrol atleast04:58
sub[t]rnlkcontrol -> KDE components -> file association04:58
lukosanthroposcool04:58
lukosanthroposThanks04:58
sub[t]rnlor as Tm_T said, settings:/ in konq04:58
Xbehavehow do i find out my driver version?05:01
lukosanthroposI prefer the kcontrol method I knew it was there i couldnt remember its name coz its 5am05:01
lordofthepigshello! Is there any way to install ubuntu on a machine that has no CD player, no floppy drive, cannot boot from USB, has no network adapter but already has windows on it?05:02
lordofthepigsIt sound a bit hard to me, but I was wondering anyway05:02
devinusis there a kde ogg theora converter?05:02
lordofthepigsI was thinking of not using the ntloader but rather something like grub4dos05:03
alcorhdevalence, r u here?05:03
hdevalencealcor: yeah, but I have to go to bed in about 5 minutes.05:05
dr_willis!install05:07
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate05:07
sparrim trying to run an app with mono, its complaining about System.Drawing being missing, then throwing a sigsegv.  I have libgdiplus installed.  Help?05:07
hdevalenceis there a kubuntu netinst cd?05:08
alcorhdevalence, now?05:08
dr_willishdevalence:  i think there is.  But ive never really looked into it. :)05:08
alcorhdevalence, i send email to you05:08
hdevalencealcor: Can I help you tomorrow?05:09
alcorhdevalence, ok! you can send email to me05:10
Crankymonky!sensors | Crankymonky05:10
hdevalencealcor:thanks, I have to go to bed.05:10
cloneyinhow can I initiate my fstab without a reboot?05:16
sub[t]rnlsudo mount -a05:17
cloneyinI just modified my fstab and need to test it without a reboot05:18
cloneyinis that it?05:18
sub[t]rnlyup05:18
cloneyinthanks05:19
cloneyin I still do not have access rights to which I  mounted05:19
cloneyinshoud I include uams ot fstab?05:20
cloneyinumask05:20
sub[t]rnlmake sure you have rights to the mount points05:20
flaccidyou want to user mount05:21
flaccidso its just mount /mnt/point05:21
flaccidif you get an error, show me05:21
cloneyini used /home/cloneyin as my mount point05:21
cloneyinis that bad?05:21
flaccidas i said make sure you have ownership/rights on the mount point05:21
flaccidno its not bad05:21
flaccidso when you do mount /home/cloneyin05:22
flaccidwhat is the result05:22
cloneyinactially /home/cloneyin/Desktop05:22
flaccidand also show me the fstab entry for that mount point05:22
cloneyinIsee theusb icon05:22
cloneyinonthe desktop05:22
flacciddo not mount to your desktop!05:22
cloneyinbut it is licked05:22
cloneyinlocked05:22
cloneyinok05:22
cloneyinsorry05:22
cloneyinlet me try again05:22
cloneyinso with desktop is bad05:23
flaccidthe icon on your desktop is usually a shortcut..05:23
cloneyinok, let me do it again05:23
flaccidyes you create a mount point and change its perms as i advised earlier05:23
cloneyindamn I am actually learnign fstab now05:23
cloneyinthansk to you flaccid05:23
cloneyinthanks05:23
flaccidits important, because linux/hal is still not reliable and user mounts are only done by hal in that respect by default05:23
dr_willisfstab and how things mount - is a top 10 to learn item :)05:24
dr_willisI still need to make that list.. someday05:24
dr_willisGrub, Mounting items,  lets see what else.. how to manully check filesystems..05:25
flaccidyeah and in my opinion there should be frontends to these in the distro05:25
flaccidthere still isn't05:25
cloneyini see05:25
flaccidnothing that is smoothly integrated/in base05:26
dr_willisactually i thought there was one.. but i always edit my fstab with vi.  So its no matter to me.05:26
cloneyinyou are also right flaccid05:26
cloneyinI clicked on that usb icon, it just shows my desktop with konqueror05:26
cloneyinit became a shortcut after I unmonted it05:27
flaccidhal attempts most of it but is not consistant i guess05:27
flaccidcloneyin: you might wanna do what i suggested05:27
flaccidthat usually helps05:27
sub[t]rnlfstab is the front end!05:27
flaccidfstab is the configuration file. a frontend abstracts the user from it05:28
sub[t]rnlconfiguration files = linux05:28
flaccidnah05:28
flaccidunix05:28
staceyhow do i completly disable the system buser05:28
sub[t]rnl:>05:28
flaccidstacey: what is the system buser?05:28
flaccid:p05:29
sub[t]rnlhe's the fat guy who picks up and drops off processes05:29
sub[t]rnland is always late05:29
flaccidoh that dude05:29
sub[t]rnllol05:29
sub[t]rnl+1 bad joke05:29
dr_willisI thought he cleard the tables and picked up the tips.05:29
flaccidhes pretty fat05:29
flaccidlol05:29
sub[t]rnldr_willis➜ lol, +2 for you05:30
flaccidnah thats called a pissed dbadmin05:30
staceyerm the beep noise that gets triggerd by system bell (i disabled it in kde but compiz likes using it)05:31
flaccidis this in konsole, stacey?05:31
staceyno compiz uses it whenever you do something wrong05:32
flaccidif so goto settings | bell and choose your desired option05:32
flaccidoh really05:32
flaccidum. in that case perhaps you can mute it in kmix or alsamixer. not sure why its doing that. is it pc speaker or the soundcard?05:32
flaccidyou can change sound/schemes in kcontrol if its the scheme doing it with a wav05:33
staceyits the internal speaker not anythng alsa uses05:33
staceynvm kde had changed a setting but left a checkbox unticked05:35
flaccidok cool05:37
dr_willisxset b 0 0 0      - will also kill off a lot of  beeps in xterm, and other apps.05:38
dr_willisthere may be some other xset command that does the same thing. :) i jsut rember 0 0 0 because its 3 #'s that set the freq/duration/Pitch or somthing.. of the bell. :)05:39
staceythx thats what i was looking for05:39
TerminalVelocityi've just upgraded to kubuntu 7.10 and really like what i see...however, i'm trying to change the hostname of my box and running into some trouble05:41
TerminalVelocityi'm unable to change the hostname of the box without kde freezing up on me during initialization...i think it has to do with my Nvidia card settings05:42
TerminalVelocityanybody had this problem?05:42
cloneyinflaccid, i did it with umask=000005:51
cloneyinas an option on fstab05:51
cloneyinthanks05:51
cloneyinflaccid, thanks05:52
cloneyinso when mounting a hd, you need to mount the partition or depends on mtab after you connect the hd on usb05:53
cloneyinand I can use konqueror to open it05:55
cloneyindamn this is awesome05:55
cloneyinwhat's next?05:56
cloneyinwhat is the command line to monitor cpu usage?06:05
XceIIhtop06:05
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XceIIbehaves06:08
* genii sips06:10
XceIIhey gen06:10
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Xbehavewhy is ccsm being awkward with my super key06:10
Tm_Thi genii and XceII06:11
XceIIhey T06:11
geniiHi XceII and Tm_t06:11
geniisorry to sip n run but need reboot :)06:13
OseI broke Amarok.. It'll open and play the current playlist, but if I try to restore it (To see it) it'll crash.06:18
cumulusDoes anyone know what would cause my sound to not work?06:20
cumulusI have just installed Kubunt 7.10 Gutsy Giben, with the CD, but my sound is not working06:20
posingaspopular!sound | cumulus06:20
ubotucumulus: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:20
cumulusIt was working on the LiveCD though06:20
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posingaspopularcloneyin: top06:21
posingaspopularor htop06:21
OseCumulus: If that doesn't work, install alsa-utils.06:21
posingaspopularfor cpu usage06:21
cloneyinthanks06:22
cumulusI should read the websites first? (sound system is checked)06:22
cloneyinposingaspopular, thanks06:23
cloneyinhtop is better than top06:23
zenobiusany reason why servicemenus are only providing said menu for the actual desktop file that defines said service menu ?06:23
cloneyinthanks Xcell06:23
cloneyinI apprecite the help06:23
cloneyin# kubuntu rocks!!!06:24
zenobiusi am referring to the service menu on kdelook for encfs06:24
ardchoilleHow do I open a new tab in konsole from the keyboard?06:24
zenobiussame thing is happening with the ffmpeg conversion service menu....infact any custom service menu i define in ~/.kde/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/06:25
posingaspopularardchoille: ctrl+shift N06:25
zenobiusctrl + t06:25
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ardchoilleposingaspopular , zenobius Neither of those work here06:25
sub[t]rnlfn + right arrow?06:26
sub[t]rnlnot sure if mine is custom06:26
zenobiusits actuallydefines in yiour shortcuts dialoge for konsole06:26
zenobiusalt + ctrl + n06:26
ardchoillesub[t]rnl: fn?06:26
sub[t]rnlthe "window" key thing06:26
ardchoillealt + ctrl + n did it, thank you zenobius06:27
zenobiusardchoille: you can change it in the menus there06:27
ardchoillesub[t]rnl: Tore that silly thing off my kb long ago :)06:27
zenobiusi used tuprs on it06:27
sub[t]rnlhehe06:27
zenobiusturps*06:27
sub[t]rnlardchoille➜ its usefull as hell, another key to map shortcuts too, without using a two key combination06:27
sub[t]rnlardchoille➜ plus, compiz uses it everywhere06:28
zenobiusso anyone been able to make custom service menus that *work*06:28
ardchoillezenobius: D'oh, I feel stoopid now, it's in Settings > Configure Shortcuts06:28
sub[t]rnlnewp! but I installed some customs that work nice06:28
ardchoilleDon't get me started on compiz, lol06:29
zenobiusthe ones im dropping in ~/.kde/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ will only show up in my right click menu if i right click on the actual .desktop file that defines the service menu06:29
ardchoillezenobius: I write service menus06:29
ardchoillezenobius: pastebin the service menu and I'll take a look.06:31
ardchoille!paste06:31
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:31
cumulusWoohoo, It is solve now, thank you Ose and posingaspopular06:32
cumulussolved*06:32
zenobiusima using pastebinit from the repos06:32
posingaspopularnp cumulus06:33
posingaspopularenjoy your kubuntu install06:33
sub[t]rnlhttp://subtrnl.homelinux.com/convert.desktop06:33
sub[t]rnlreal handy if you like to burn dvd's06:33
cumulusI'll enjoy even more my sound :D06:33
posingaspopularardchoille: in konsole? i tried it and that that worked06:33
ardchoilleposingaspopular: Tried what?06:34
zenobiusardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/82490606:35
ardchoillesub[t]rnl: Did you write that yourself?06:36
sub[t]rnlnegative06:36
sub[t]rnlnot sure where it came from, I've had it for a while06:36
* sub[t]rnl sucks on his teeth06:37
ardchoillezenobius: pastebin.ca won't open06:37
zenobiusardchoille: ahh ctrl shift n just made me a new console session ....very odd06:37
OseAmarok keeps crashing the moment I load it (Only after I added my large collection)06:37
zenobiusose: proly some file is not standard format06:37
zenobiusose : which may be causing it to trip over06:38
zenobiusose: just awild guess06:38
Osezenobius: It's handled these before. I added them all, had it organize them, and moved them. Then changed the collection directory and.. This.06:38
zenobiusose: not sure, im very keen on listen06:39
ardchoillezenobius: You have ServiceTypes=inode/directory so that should only work on directories06:39
zenobiusthis is what i want06:39
zenobiusardchoille: but tit doesnt even do that06:39
Osezenobius: Hmm. I'll try to get foobarclone working again. Never liked it much, anyway.06:39
zenobiusose: i just like using folders to organise my stuff, rather tahn double handling with itunes style dbase and metadata tags06:40
ardchoillezenobius: So it doesn't show up when you right click a directory?06:40
zenobiusardchoille: npe06:40
zenobiusoddly, it only appears in the right click menu on the tat one file..06:40
Osezenobius: I had that, but accidentally partitioned over these. When recovered they all had number-names.. Thankfully my ID3 tags allowed me to resort them.06:40
zenobiusardchoille: here is the servicemenu for my ffmpeg too,, same problems06:41
zenobiushttp://paste.stgraber.org/06:41
zenobiusgah06:41
zenobiusardchoille:  http://pastebin.ca/82491106:41
ardchoillezenobius: Try taking out the submenu instruction and try.. some service menu items don't play well with X-KDE-Submenu=blah06:42
zenobiusokies06:42
Xbehaveemerald came with no themes :(06:43
zenobiusXbehave: its in another package mon06:43
zenobiusXbehave: most proly emerald-themes06:43
zenobiusXbehave: can grab heaps more from gnome-look.org or kdelook.org06:44
zenobiusardchoille: removing that submenu bit didnt changes things06:44
Xbehavein gutsy there is no emerald-themes06:45
zenobiusthe submenu did work when i  right click on the .desktop file but now  that i have removed the submenu definition line, as expected the submenu is not there anymore, and the two subitems are now on the top level action tier06:46
ardchoillezenobius: Try adding this line just above the Submenu line:  X-KDE-Priority=TopLevel06:46
zenobiusbut this only occurs on the desktop file that defnies the entry for encfs06:46
ardchoillezenobius: iirc, if you use Submenu you have to also use X-KDE-Priority=TopLevel06:46
zenobiusstill nothing06:48
ardchoille:(06:48
zenobiusany packages i might have missed maybe?06:48
zenobiusthis was a gnome desktop to start with then i apt-get install kdedesktop06:49
ardchoilleNot if your other service menus work06:49
intelikey!emerald06:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about emerald - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi06:49
zenobiusnone of my customs ones do06:49
posingaspopularardchoille: i was refering to alt+shift+n for konsole06:49
ardchoillezenobius: Wait, you installed kdedesktop and not kubuntu-desktop?06:49
intelikey!theme06:49
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:49
zenobiusardchoille: mmmm maybe it needs to go in the dolphin folder too?06:49
ardchoilleposingaspopular: only ctrl+alt+n works here.. weird06:50
ardchoillezenobius: Are you using dolphin?06:50
zenobiusardchoille: i used the all encompassing meta package06:50
sub[t]rnl!info emerald-themes06:50
ubotuPackage emerald-themes does not exist in gutsy06:50
sub[t]rnl!find emerald-themes06:50
ardchoillezenobius: That was kubuntu-desktop06:50
ubotuPackage/file emerald-themes does not exist in gutsy06:50
zenobiusardchoille: just konqueror at the momento06:50
stdinsub[t]rnl: it's not in ubuntu, you have to get it via svn06:50
sub[t]rnlhrm, well its in my repo's06:50
zenobiusardchoille: so im good with packages and all06:50
ardchoillezenobius: What is the path to your custom service menus?06:51
zenobiusardchoille: /home/zenobius/.kde/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/06:51
zenobiusardchoille: in there i have two files, ffmpeg-convert.desktop & 57086-encfs.desktop06:52
ardchoillezenobius: That's not the correct path, they should be in /home/zenobius/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus  you've left out the "share"06:52
cloneyini have 4gb of memory installed, does ati radeon X800 256M accumulating my memory?06:52
zenobiusardchoille: well... this maybe easier than i thought06:53
ardchoillecloneyin: It should be using the memory on the vid card itself06:53
cloneyin damn about 1gb?06:53
ardchoillecloneyin: That's the point of drivers, to take the load off the CPU06:53
cloneyinis htop just new?06:53
zenobiusno06:53
zenobiusbeen round loooong time06:53
cloneyini remember top is what I use06:53
cloneyinreally06:53
romunovi've installed compiz and open office is causing "problems" :/06:53
zenobiusyurp06:53
cloneyini like htop better than top06:54
romunovhas anyone had any experience with compiz/emerald?06:54
zenobiusi use screen then i run jnettop and htop and bmon06:54
cloneyinnot I should use this06:54
cloneyinif i have 16-way, it will show 16 procs,right?06:54
XceIIwhat is jnettop06:54
zenobiusi use screen becuase those others are run on remote server, i only wnat to ssh once06:54
ardchoille!compiz | romunov06:54
uboturomunov: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion06:54
zenobiusits like htop but for net traffic06:54
cloneyinnow quad-core isout06:54
cloneyinit shoudl show 32 procs06:55
XceIIah think ill take a look/ tx06:55
cloneyinXcell, looking06:56
cloneyinactually fetching it from the server now06:56
XceIIme 206:56
intelikeycloneyin the memory usage is probably not what you think.      actual used memory      free | grep -- -/+ | cut -b20-3006:56
XceIIbrb06:56
ardchoillezenobius: They working now?06:56
zenobiusmost excellent06:56
* zenobius does a jig06:56
cloneyinjnettop, you need the hwaddress06:56
zenobiussudo jnettop -i eth006:57
cloneyinok06:57
cloneyinlet me try that06:57
zenobiusi like cli for monitoring apps that also feed out data logs i can use with timeplot from mit06:57
cloneyinguys, jnettop is kool06:57
cloneyinthanks zenobius06:58
ardchoilleNow you got me interested in jnettop06:58
cloneyindoes red hat distro or fedora or centos or even suse have this utility?06:58
zenobiusif your suing it on remote machines, aka via ssh...have a look at using screen...its like workspaces for the cli without having to login mulitple times06:58
zenobiususing*06:58
XceIINow thats cool.06:59
cloneyinyeah!06:59
ardchoillecloneyin: Most likely06:59
cloneyindamn, does not even know this06:59
cloneyinI am getting into linux06:59
zenobiusjnettop has been round since warty i think06:59
XceIIthx Z06:59
ardchoillezenobius: screen+irssi+mutt+elinks+mc rocks06:59
cloneyinbeen playing around with rhl4 as 64-bit06:59
cloneyinand suse 9es 64-bit06:59
cloneyinmy employer sell barebone stuff and wants me to engage in linux07:00
XceIIdo it07:00
XceIIRob bill gates07:00
cloneyinso now i am trying to learn openmpi07:00
zenobiusif anyone like rtorrent, and wants a script to read the session data into a status html page, then rtorstats is the way to go07:00
cloneyinwell we sell HPC systems07:00
cloneyinand univ and gov usually the biggest customer07:01
cloneyinso  I learned linapck,HPLbenchmark07:01
cloneyingaussian07:01
zenobiusbill has xbox, so even if weindows goes under....07:01
lufthanzacan anyone help me with flash in konqueror?07:01
cloneyincharmm07:01
cloneyinand all the good benchmarks07:01
XceIIDont forget the key loggers on the govs stuff07:01
cloneyinyeah07:01
ardchoilleXceII: lol07:01
cloneyinwell my job is to make sure the system runs those07:01
zenobiuslufthanza: have you installed any flash player yet?07:01
cloneyinbig problems are ths amd architectures and bios07:02
lufthanzazenobius: I installed flashplayer manually, and it runs in firefox07:02
zenobiuslufthanza: ok, at this point you want to open the config for konqueror07:02
intelikeydoes gparted do ntfs ?   i mean can you create ntfs with it ?07:02
cloneyini did flash intallation manually through firefox laso07:02
zenobiusintelikey: you would not want to count on it07:02
zenobiuslufthanza: then got tplugins07:03
lufthanzaproblem is, in konqueror, nsplugin will crash and burn when it comes into contact with swf content07:03
intelikeyzenobius but it can make ntfs ?07:03
zenobiuslufthanza: and click the 'scan for plugins' button07:03
cloneyinamd architecture for HPC so far, the manufacturer implimentations are two so far07:03
zenobiusintelikey: proly, but i think you will want ntfs-3g package07:03
cloneyineither ladder design or cross design07:03
* LimCore bitchalps kde for making annoying sounds07:03
cloneyinand bios is hard to map the nodes and the apic support07:04
zenobiuslufthanza: oh, sorry my ability ends here07:04
lufthanzazenobius: well, thanks anyway07:04
cloneyinso sometimes, when  i run linpack, it only assign jobs to certain nodes07:04
cloneyinthen customer complains07:04
cloneyinso .....07:04
XceIIeek07:04
cloneyinnow i am damn learning linux07:05
XceIIYou will be better off07:05
cloneyinI can give you ssh access to the machine07:05
cloneyinI have to set it up07:05
cloneyinits an 8-way mahchine but installed dual-cores so total of 32 cores07:06
XceIIcool07:06
cloneyinand supports 256Gb of memory07:06
cloneyinits a cool mchine07:06
XceIII want 1..07:06
XceIIno 207:06
cloneyinbut mostly tax apyers buys them like University07:06
cloneyinhehe07:06
cloneyinits selling for 5k but re-seller install or config it with so much max out config and sell it for 45k07:07
XceIIwow07:07
cloneyinbasrebone is 5k price07:07
cloneyinif you are re-seller07:07
lufthanzaflash spits out this error when trying to load stuff in konqueror: "Adobe Flash Player: gtk_clipboard_get(GDK_SELECTION_PRIMARY); failed. Trying to call gtk_init(0,0);"07:07
cloneyinyou can configure it with quad-cores, highest speed available ,4 Gb modules per slot total of 256, SAS and infiniband07:08
cloneyinyou can sell it for 55k tops07:08
cloneyinand configure linux with vmware installed07:08
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cloneyintaht is it,customer just install thier apps07:09
LimCoreis ubuntu by nerds for nerds?  or do we aim to make user friendly system?07:09
cloneyinlike Gaussian or X-Riemann or charmm07:09
cloneyinirhgt now we are developing 4 boards, dual-socket Intel07:10
cloneyintotal of 32 cores also07:10
cloneyinall SMP through software07:10
cloneyinconnected on infiniband internal switch board07:10
ere4si!ot | cloneyin07:10
ubotucloneyin: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!07:10
cloneyinthanks07:10
cloneyinsorry about  that07:11
cloneyingot carried away07:11
ere4sik07:11
lufthanzais there a way to pull an older version of a package from apt? or can you only get the newest version?07:14
cloneyinwhich is the best linux utility to monitor the io of hard drives?07:14
cloneyinthe b/w actually07:15
stdinlufthanza: "sudo apt-get install <package>=version"07:15
LimCorecloneyin: well  xmon something works07:15
intelikeylufthanza you can specify the version in the name07:15
lufthanzastdin: thanks07:15
LimCoreor was it  xos07:15
LimCorexosview?07:15
cloneyinlet me check07:15
* intelikey tips hat to stdin07:15
ardchoillecloneyin: I use gkrellm for that07:15
cloneyinthanks LimCore07:15
* stdin waves back to intelikey07:15
cloneyinthanks ardchoille07:15
LimCorecloneyin: that app is primitive;  but u can also check the sources07:15
cloneyinthanks LimCore07:16
lufthanzastdin: how do I list the available package versions?07:17
Xbehavecompiz-fusion isnt using my super key shortcuts, any ideas how to fix this|07:17
stdinlufthanza: you can have a look at "apt-cache policy <package>" but that only shows versions from different repositories. other than that you'll just have to look in the archive (http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu )07:18
ardchoillecloneyin: http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gkrellmdz8.png07:18
cloneyinardchoille, never version I suppose07:23
cloneyinthanks07:23
ardchoillecloneyin: never version?07:23
cloneyinnewer07:23
cloneyinsorry07:23
fsckrwhat is in the DVD version of Kubuntu?07:23
ardchoilleAh, it';s the one from the gutsy repos07:23
ardchoillefsckr: the dvd is a compilation of the alternate install cd, the desktop live cd and the server cd07:24
Xbehavedont suppose anybody knows where i can get snow textures for compiz-fussion07:24
fsckroh ok thx ardchoille07:24
fsckrXbehave, i found some by searching the ubuntuforums.org07:24
zenobiuscloneyin: nice graphing thing for use in webpages : http://simile.mit.edu/timeplot/docs/07:25
fsckrim going back to bed have a good night07:25
XceIInite07:25
ardchoilleXbehave: http://gnome-look.org/  has a nice compiz theme section07:25
cloneyinzenobius, this is nice07:25
cloneyinthanks07:25
cloneyinXcell, goodnight07:26
cloneyinsee ya soon07:26
zenobiushaving used gnomes metacity for while, then aso compiz..i was quite surprised at waht kwin can do with out compositing07:26
XceIInot me  fsckr.lll07:26
XceIIlol07:26
cloneyinoh fsckr, goodnight07:27
cloneyinsorry about that07:27
cloneyinI like the timeplot though07:27
zenobiusjust need to start sorting out some cronjobs that output compatibale data logs07:27
ardchoillezenobius: You need to have a website and put all your tips & tricks there07:27
posingaspopularhow do I remove the chan. topic from the top of konversation?07:27
XceIII vote 4 that.07:27
ardchoilleposingaspopular: drag it up07:28
ardchoilleI only know that because I did it accidentally once, lol07:28
zenobiusahh it drags up to the last line then 'resists' till about 10px from the line07:29
zenobiusre: chan topic in knoversation07:29
ardchoilleyeah07:29
zenobiusneat07:29
zenobiustimeplot with kdewebdesktop would be the way to go i think07:30
zenobiusas an alternative to grellkrem...07:31
zenobiusnot as nice on cpu though07:31
ardchoilleThe thing I like about gkrellm is I rarely see my desktop, too many windows open, and you can drag gkrellm around07:32
zenobiusyeah lightwieght impact is the highest priority07:32
zenobiusnothing like monitoring the weight of an ant whilst standing on the scales07:33
intelikeyspeaking of.   how to get thermal to work on a pentium coper mine ?07:33
ardchoillehehe07:33
cloneyintrying to install real player and it outputs to this07:34
cloneyin./realplay-10.0.9.809-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:34
cloneyinintelikey, what do u mean thermal?07:34
cloneyinshould I install glibc-devel?07:35
intelikeycloneyin the core temp info.  the kenrel module "thermal" is inserted but the info is not in /proc07:35
intelikeycat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature: No such file or directory <<<07:36
cloneyincoretemp module07:36
unix_infidelcan anyone point me to the path of least resistance for using 2 screens with an ATI card without having to setup ATI drivers?07:36
intelikeyhmm looks like acpi is the missing dir07:36
intelikeyi'm going to guess i need acpi support07:37
cloneyincould be07:37
zenobiusunix_infidel:  it really depends on your video card07:38
zenobiusunix_infidel: mine is a ati radeon 9600, rv35007:38
unix_infidelzenobius: it's an ati card.07:38
unix_infidelits a 9600 mobile.07:38
zenobiusunix_infidel: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please07:39
cloneyinwhich package do I need to install Real player07:39
cloneyin./realplay-10.0.9.809-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:39
zenobiusunix_infidel: and the results of : lspci07:39
unix_infidelzenobius: i'm not on that box right now.07:39
ardchoille!realplayer | cloneyin07:39
ubotucloneyin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:39
zenobiusunix_infidel: k, i'll dig up the wiki page i used07:40
zenobiusunix_infidel: and i m using fesity not gutsy07:40
unix_infidelzenobius: how long did it take, from t007:40
unix_infidelzenobius: i'm guessing their going to be similar.07:40
zenobiusunix_infidel: waht you will be doing is duplicating the device, screen, monitor sections to define your second output chain07:41
zenobiusand inserting some flags theat turn on the xinerama abilities of our cards07:41
zenobiusunix_infidel: and im not using binary drivers either ....at least im pretty sure im not07:42
unix_infidelzenobius: so about an hour :-P07:42
zenobiusunix_infidel: on the outside, if things dont get exotic07:43
zenobiusunix_infidel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo07:43
intelikeycan a coper mine even report the temp ?07:45
intelikeycopper07:45
ardchoilleintelikey: Perhaps google would know?07:46
intelikeyardchoille i'd try it if i had too   ;/07:46
* intelikey grumbles and opens another console "sense nobody knows"...07:46
intelikeyhmmm i've inserted everything in the acpi coloumn and still /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ is empty07:58
wesleyhello need to fix adept08:04
komputernerdwhats wrong with it?08:04
wesleydatabase closef08:04
wesleyclosed08:04
emilsedgh!adeptfix | wesley08:04
ubotuwesley: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:04
komputernerdnice08:04
komputernerdcheck out the big brain on brad08:04
posingaspopularhey all im trying to install virtualbox in kubuntu gutsy and I keep getting this error in my /var/log/virtualbox-install.log file about a kernel module not compiling correctly: Makefile:68: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again..  Stop.08:07
komputernerdcurious .. why virtualbox over vmware?08:07
posingaspopularvmware was a pain to install08:07
wesleywheres compiz fusion to?08:07
intelikeyinstall the kernel source   or at least the kernel headers08:07
posingaspopularbut then again, so was virtualbox08:08
posingaspopularintelikey: the linux source 2.6.22?08:08
intelikeyyep08:08
posingaspopulari already did08:08
intelikeyheaders ?08:08
posingaspopularthat im not so sure08:08
posingaspopularone sec while i check08:09
cowlikkcan anyone help me08:10
intelikeybuild-essential should pull in the linux-headers   but it may not.     "should is an openion"08:10
intelikeycowlikk yes  the restroom is >>> over there08:10
sigmahas anyone tried the asus eee pc on kubuntu?08:10
komputernerdreally .. i always thought vmware was easy to install08:10
komputernerdwell .. unless you were on x86_6408:11
komputernerdthen it was a pain until you knew what you were doing08:11
cowlikki cant get my resolution to change after installing nvidia driver08:11
posingaspopularyea he headers are installed. build-essential is also installed08:11
cowlikkanyone up for the challenge08:11
komputernerdsudo nvidia-settings08:11
wesleycan someone tell me where compiz fusion is ? its not more in adept08:11
intelikeyposingaspopular hmmm.    you did untar the linux source didn't you ?   check in /usr/src and see08:12
intelikey!find compiz08:13
ubotuFound: compiz-bcop, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-fusion-plugins-main, libcompizconfig-backend-gconf, libcompizconfig0 (and 15 others)08:13
posingaspopularhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48998/08:13
cowlikk640x480 is still as high as it will go08:14
intelikeysudo tar -xjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22.tar.bz208:15
sub[t]rnlcowlikk➜ tried using nvidia-settings?08:17
sub[t]rnlcowlikk➜ or sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg08:17
sub[t]rnlbe sure to backup your /etc/xorg.conf08:17
posingaspopularokay now it's just kind of sitting in the terminal, not doing anything08:17
cowlikki still will have the nvidia driver right cause i want the 3d effects is the whole reason behind all this08:18
sub[t]rnlcowlikk➜ yes, the -phigh just sets resolutions in your xorg.conf, it wont query you to change anything else08:18
posingaspopularokay right intelikey, now the file is untarred08:18
intelikeyposingaspopular so run the "make" again like it sujested08:20
intelikeysub[t]rnl -phigh doesn't restrict what the command does.  it restricts the priority of question the user is trubbled with.08:22
intelikeyi.e.  -plow will ask the user many questions and -phigh will ask few  but both will adjust all the settings.08:23
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ ah, thanks08:23
sub[t]rnlI thought it simply set resolutions, thats it08:23
intelikeynope.08:23
TheFallenOnei am having some trouble with my wifi on Kubuntu 7.10. I can see the network and connect but i cannot access any web pages. I have a Linksys WMP54G wifi card (chipset RaLink RT2561/RT61)08:23
TheFallenOnecan anyone help08:23
posingaspopularwell... Makefile:68: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again..  Stop.08:24
TheFallenOneI have taken some screen shots of the browser and ifconfig as well as the interfaces file08:24
TheFallenOneto help08:24
posingaspopularTheFallenOne: what have you done after you connect?08:24
posingaspopularjust ifconfig?08:24
posingaspopulartry 'sudo dhclient'08:24
TheFallenOneok08:24
posingaspopularthat's usually what i do when im having connection issues08:24
cowlikkstill cant get higher than 640x48008:25
intelikeyposingaspopular hmmm  try telling it the dir you unpacked in ?    but i thought that /usr/src was about as default as you could get in linux....         you might look more closely at the output and make sure that something else is not failing first     i have seen that happen a few times.    with not so well written makefiles08:26
ActionParsniphi all08:26
sub[t]rnlcowlikk➜ pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:26
sub[t]rnlgreets AP08:26
posingaspopularhey ActionParsnip08:26
cowlikkhaha how do i do that08:27
ActionParsniphey sub[t]rnl posingaspopular08:27
sub[t]rnl!paste08:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:27
TheFallenOnehey! ActionParsnip08:28
ActionParsniphey TheFallenOne08:28
intelikeyif i want to delete the files in a dir that is too full,  what would be the "easy way" ?08:30
AzAelheres one..... i just aquired one of those dell usb hub keyboards however my usb key is ignored when i plug it in. lsusb lists the device but fstab -l does not08:30
posingaspopularhmm intelikey, you're talking above my pay grade ;p08:30
ActionParsnipintelikey, do you want to delete the entire folder?08:30
posingaspopularrf the directory i think08:31
sub[t]rnlrm -r dir/ will remove the directory and all the files in it.08:31
posingaspopularbut I that's a dangerous command08:31
intelikeyActionParsnip no just the normal files   not subdirs08:31
intelikeysub[t]rnl not subdirs08:31
ActionParsnipintelikey, you can use sudo rm <folder name>08:31
cowlikkmaybee i need to restart08:31
cowlikki pasted it08:32
intelikeyif it wasn't to full i'd just use   rm /path/*08:32
ActionParsnipintelikey, it wil remove the files and leave the folder structure08:32
AzAelso is dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda.....dangerous command that is08:32
intelikeyActionParsnip no it's too full08:32
posingaspopularokay hmmm08:32
intelikeybash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long08:32
posingaspopularim going to try just rebooting and see if that changes my VM in any way, shape or form08:32
ActionParsnipintelikey, you could use sudo rm -rf <folder>; mkdir <folder>08:32
intelikeyAzAel not if you intend to wipe the hard drive08:32
AzAellol08:33
sub[t]rnlintelikey➜ rm -r removes subdirectories too08:33
TheFallenOneok i'm still having the wifi issues. i've tried adding auto wlan0 to the interfaces and restarting but no go.08:33
ActionParsnipintelikey, remove, recursive and force. it will also remove the folder08:33
intelikeyActionParsnip that would lose the subdirs and their content08:33
ActionParsnipintelikey, so recreate afterwards08:33
TheFallenOnemakes no since why i can connect to the router with 80% siganl but can't get to the web08:33
AzAelintelikey: the poor kid that wanted to wipe his usbkey and wiped his hdd08:33
ActionParsnipintelikey, you could always use konqueror08:33
TheFallenOnemy buddy right next to me is on his laptop and accessing the net through wifi just fine (windows xp for him)08:34
intelikeyActionParsnip not desirable.   the content of the subdirs stays.08:34
ardchoilleAzAel: ouch!08:34
TheFallenOneno firewalls or any security on router so i'm stumped08:34
ActionParsnipintelikey, so you want to keep the folders but not the files?08:34
AzAelsda, sdb.....whatever LOL08:34
intelikeyActionParsnip that's what i first specified08:34
ActionParsnipintelikey, just clarifying. rm -r * should be fine. you can always create a seperate folder and use touch to create some files08:35
ActionParsnipintelikey, then try the command08:35
ActionParsnipintelikey, ;)08:35
AzAelanyways how can i mount a usb storage device if its not detected by fstab -l08:36
AzAelbut detected by lsusb08:36
ActionParsnipAzAel, what do you get from fdisk -l08:36
intelikeyActionParsnip lol   create empty files to replace 3g of data  no thanks.08:37
AzAelonly output relating to internal sata and ide drives08:37
ActionParsnipintelikey, you misunderstand08:37
ActionParsnipintelikey, if you create a folder with subfolders and some files in all the folders (create using touch)08:37
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ActionParsnipintelikey, you can run any commands you like to test08:38
ActionParsnipintelikey, once you are happy with what is happening you can execute it on the actual folder08:38
intelikey"rm -r * should be fine"  will remove data i don't want removed.   nothing to misunderstand about that.08:38
ActionParsnipintelikey, think of it like a test08:38
AzAelintelikey:  usbkey automounts when plugged into any other port except for the ones on this KB08:39
AzAeloops08:39
ActionParsnipintelikey, just a suggestion :)08:39
AzAelthat was directed at ActionParsnip08:39
ActionParsnipAzAel, pastebin your fdisk -l please08:40
intelikeywell the easy answer seems to be a loop   for Q in /path/* ;do rm $Q ;done       in that loop bash is not limited like the rm command to a shortened commandline  and it will do what    rm /path/*    can't.08:40
intelikeyif anyone wants to take notes  ^08:41
AzAelActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49000/08:42
AzAelnice number hehehe08:42
intelikeytwo pata disks ?08:44
AzAel1xpata 1xsata08:44
intelikeyhmmm and scsi emulation08:44
AzAeli believe my problem has to do with the dell usb hub keyboard :(08:45
intelikeywhat does unpluging and repluging the usb drive say in dmesg ?08:45
ActionParsnipAzAel, yeah i'd go with that too08:45
ActionParsnipAzAel, what model is the keyboard08:45
posingaspopularhmm im still getting this error: Makefile:68: *** Error: unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel. Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again..  Stop.08:46
posingaspopularhow would i run Make again?08:47
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, sudo apt-get install kernel-source08:47
intelikeyhow did you run it that time ?08:47
AzAelActionParsnip: sk-8135 and this is in dmesg ->>> 1210.322805] usb 2-1.2: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power08:47
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-1008:47
intelikeyAzAel ah  ha.   you is correct08:48
ActionParsnipAzAel, do you have it plugged in via usb or PS/2?08:48
intelikeyAzAel system says  'no sir'  at the new usb device.08:48
posingaspopularsudo aptitute install virtualbox-> setup VM with iso for hardy-> launch vm-> get error telling me that the vm module isn't compiled.-> nano /var/log/vbox-install.log08:49
posingaspopularwhich gives me that error08:49
intelikeysudo dpkg --configure -a08:50
intelikeyshould rerun it then08:50
posingaspopularrerun what now?08:50
AzAelActionParsnip: kb is plugged into usb sunshine......usbkey plugged into kb.....and i can remember how to tail dmesg properly08:51
posingaspopularkernel source and linux-headers-2.6.12-10 as packages are not found when i try to apt-get them08:51
ActionParsnipAzAel, cat /proc/bus/input/devices <- can we have a paste of that with the key in and out08:51
intelikeyposingaspopular the preinst or postinst script in /var/lib/dpbk/info/ for that package is running the make on the software.     WOW 2.6.12 ???08:52
intelikeyis that a typo ?08:52
intelikeyuname -r08:52
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intelikeyi'm thinking you mean  2.6.21*08:53
* intelikey wonders is posingaspopular's dislexia just caught up wif him08:54
AzAelActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49001/08:54
posingaspopular12? ah darnit08:54
intelikey;/08:55
posingaspopularE: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.21-1008:55
AzAelIdentical08:55
ActionParsnipAzAel, got another pc to test it on?08:56
posingaspopularintelikey: dpbk?08:56
posingaspopularif i try to nano that file, it shows up empty08:56
AzAellaptop brb08:57
ActionParsnipintelikey, can you suggest for AzAel?08:57
intelikeydrop the -1008:57
intelikeylet me look08:57
cowlikkcan someone help me with when i log out and log back in i just get a peach screen and nothing ever loads. i have to reboot08:58
ActionParsnipintelikey, there appears to be 2 entries for the keyboard which is weird08:58
ActionParsnipintelikey, lines 34 to 5208:58
posingaspopularE: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.2108:59
posingaspopularstill not working08:59
intelikeyAzAel if possable plug the drive into another port dirrectly on the box.08:59
intelikeyActionParsnip yea i saw that08:59
intelikeyposingaspopular when in doubt    apt-cache search linux-headers09:00
AzAelintelikey: the challenge is to get the usb key working on the builtin ports on the kb, specificly the reason why i got this particular keyboard09:00
ActionParsnipintelikey, it works in a normal usb port (not on the keyboard). Ive got him plugging it into another system to see if its the keyboard thats faulty09:00
AzAel[ 3407.577619] usb 2-1.3: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power................There is my problem09:01
intelikeyAzAel ok.  then you'll have to boost the power to the keyboard09:01
AzAelnot enough cheese in the tube09:01
intelikeyright09:01
posingaspopularokay well it seems that i already havet he linux-headers-2.6.22-14 installed09:01
ActionParsnipintelikey, ooh do tell how09:01
* ActionParsnip listens intently09:01
posingaspopulari just have no idea what im supposed to be doing to fix this VM09:01
intelikeyActionParsnip i didn't say i could do that.    but without boosting the power that isn't going to work.09:02
ActionParsnipAzAel, how does the keyboard connect to the system? Is there a usb hub involved?09:03
intelikeyposingaspopular normally the error messages "when not viewed as criptic" are very helpful in trubbleshooting a problem.09:03
intelikeya powered hub would be good.    but i don't recall ever seeing one.09:04
intelikeyposingaspopular do a uname -r for me please09:04
ActionParsnipAzAel, do you have a powered usb hub?09:05
posingaspopularummm sure if you can give the exact command. im wayy in over my head here ;p09:05
intelikeyuname -r09:06
intelikeyto list the running kernel version09:06
intelikeyto make sure it matches   2.6.22-1409:06
AzAelthis bizarre i tried a differnt usb storage device and it didnt work however on one occasion it picked it up and mounted it automagicly09:07
intelikeywell  2.6.22-14* to be exact09:07
intelikeyAzAel it would every time if the power lever was a little higher at the port your are plugging into09:07
posingaspopular2.6.17-12-generic09:08
posingaspopularwhich doesn't match ;/09:08
intelikeyposingaspopular there you go   and that's where all your problem has been09:08
intelikeyyou need the 2.6.17-12 headers09:08
posingaspopularbah09:08
intelikeyand possably the  source09:09
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, id sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade09:09
AzAelActionParsnip: intelikey: connections attempted, kb plugged into onboard usb, unpowered usb hub and alternate usb ports on mobo only had success once with an alternate storage device09:09
posingaspopularupgrade? im already in gutsy09:09
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, it'll upgrade individual packages from the sources09:10
intelikeyupgrade for the newer kernel version, yes.   and changing kernels will require a reboot too.09:10
intelikeyor install the kernel headers for that kernel and go09:10
cowlikkwhy when i log out and back in it wont load anything but a peach color screen09:11
ActionParsnipAzAel, unpowered usb hub will not give juice to your keyboard which it needs09:11
intelikeycowlikk drop to a console and see what's hanging it up09:11
cowlikk:-D im not that smart intelikey09:12
AzAelActionParsnip: only tried it because i had forgotten id lost the powersupply09:12
posingaspopularhmm how do i get the source and headers for 2.6.17-1209:12
cowlikkthis is like my first 5 hours on linux09:12
AzAelhaving fun yet cowlikk??09:12
cowlikkand it aint been a good 5 hours09:13
cowlikklots of freakin thinking09:13
ActionParsnipAzAel, so got a different usb key to work or was it a hdd with external power?09:13
cowlikkand typing09:13
cowlikkmy fingers are sore09:13
ActionParsnipcowlikk, indeed for now. soon it will work beautifully :)09:13
AzAelActionParsnip: cheap generic mp3 player09:13
cowlikki know that is why i keep at it09:13
ActionParsnipAzAel, with batteries in ?09:14
AzAelcowlikk: you will look back on it fondly one day09:14
cowlikki used to think i was very good with computers.... well thats windows i guess09:14
AzAelActionParsnip: no batteries09:14
intelikeycowlikk ok let me explain how to switch tty's in linux   first of all the default tty for the xserver is tty7   now to switch ttys you press ctrl+alt+f# where the # is the tty number you want.  normally 1 through 6 are login tty's    you can login and run         ps ax       the last few lines of info will be the last processes to start up.  one will be your login shell.  but just above that should be the last thing that x st09:14
posingaspopularcowlikk: that's a whole different ballgame. ;p09:14
ActionParsnipAzAel, well it will have some form of power source09:14
cowlikkyeah im learning that09:14
AzAelonly worked temporarily09:15
cowlikkso how do i figure out why it wont log back in after loging out09:15
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posingaspopulari wish i knew how to install those header files/source :(09:15
ActionParsnipAzAel, id borrow or steal a powered usb hub and try that. it should work from your onboard though which is weird09:15
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, get the updates09:15
intelikeycowlikk you find what is hanging it and ask in here probably.09:15
TheFallenOnei think i've run out of options09:15
cowlikkhow do i find what is hanging it though09:16
AzAelthe usb key does work onboard it also works in the unpowered usb hub09:16
ActionParsnipTheFallenOne, get googling sir09:16
posingaspopulari did09:16
intelikeycowlikk read my long post again  ^09:16
cowlikkahh it sliped by me thanks09:16
ActionParsnipAzAel, does the keyboard work wih the usb key when its plugged into the onboard?09:16
mariachat spain¿09:17
TheFallenOnelol the only thing else i know to do that was suggested was dowloading seamonkey drivers but since i can't put a lan line on that box anytime soon i can't just update it and use the packages09:17
AzAelkeyboard always works09:17
TheFallenOneand manual install is a killer with dependencies09:17
TheFallenOneso i guess i'll just wait till i can get a hard line on it09:17
AzAelwhere ever i plug it09:17
ActionParsnipAzAel, indeed. but thats not the issue right now09:17
ActionParsnipAzAel, is the kb plugged into the usb hub?09:18
AzAeljust cant get a usb storage device to work off the kb09:18
AzAelActionParsnip: now...no only plugged it in there to test09:18
AzAelhrmmmm09:18
TheFallenOnewell thanks for everyones help. later.09:19
ActionParsnipAzAel, ok let me google a bit.09:19
ActionParsnipAzAel, got anything else usb?09:20
ActionParsnipAzAel, like a bluetooth dongle etc09:20
intelikeyAzAel it's like the little boy sitting on the sidewalk and sturing in a pile of dung, when the sargent walked by and asked him. "son what are you doing?" he said "im making a privet" the sargent asked "why don't you make a sargent?" he replied "cause i don't have enough shit for that"     that's the problem you are having with the key.  not enough ....09:20
posingaspopularActionParsnip: what do i do after i get the updates/09:20
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, reboot is a good choice09:21
intelikeyno09:22
intelikeyafter the upgrade   not the update09:22
posingaspopularafter i sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?09:22
intelikeyyes after both09:22
intelikeyor should i say when you have dont both of them.09:22
* intelikey hates to point at the reset button any more than need be.09:23
intelikeyah man sounds like a fire fight.    gota go.09:24
krautmoin09:28
AzAelActionParsnip: ha ha09:29
andrea_hello guys, i just installed ubuntu on my desktop09:29
andrea_but I am not getting any audio..09:29
andrea_Usually audio worked smoothly09:29
jussi01!sound09:29
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:29
andrea_can somebody tell me what should I try out?09:29
AzAelActionParsnip: i have also been googleing but all i get is stuff about the volume knob09:29
cowlikkintelikey still here?09:30
posingaspopularokay rebooted09:30
posingaspopular!sound | andrea_09:30
ubotuandrea_: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:30
cowlikkanyone help me with login probs09:30
cowlikkhanging on gnome-screensaver09:30
ActionParsnipcowlikk, wassup09:30
andrea_thanks, I will check it09:31
cowlikkafter logging off then back on  i just get a peach screen09:31
posingaspopularokay ActionParsnip, i got the upgrade, update and reboot down09:31
posingaspopularnow what do i do to get the relevant heard/source files?09:31
cowlikkso intelikey said to see the last ps ax stuff and the last one was gnome-screensaver09:32
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, sudo apt-get install linux-hea <press tab>09:32
ActionParsnipcowlikk, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20712309:33
ActionParsnipcowlikk, i'm not the best person to hel pas I disabled mine and I just turn off my monitor :)09:34
ActionParsnippower saver > screen saver09:34
posingaspopularActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49004/09:34
posingaspopulari think i need the source first?09:35
cowlikkhaha thanks for the link i will try what they say brb to let you know09:35
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, try using adept and search for source09:35
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XceIIThirsts.09:39
posingaspopularim seeing the linux source for 2.6.22-1409:43
posingaspopularand that's it09:43
AzAelheheheh ok forget that for now, im off to load puppy dsl and hirens on my usb key oh and parted magic09:45
mosiacanyone here know much about the restricted video drivers for nvidia cards?09:45
cowlikkcomputer hangs on -bash anyone help me?09:45
AzAelcowlikk start from scratch ???09:47
cowlikkwhat09:48
cowlikkwhys that09:48
XceIItry booting cd..let run take cd out reboot09:50
AzAeli was asking if it was an option?09:51
XceIIah09:52
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posingaspopularActionParsnip: you still around?09:56
TimS!dvd10:03
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:03
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, sorry10:04
posingaspopulari did, and all i found was the linux-source for 2.6.2210:04
ubuntuhello! I'm on the livecd gutsy amd64 and the installation program won't move after I've selected the keyboard layout10:07
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ActionParsnipposingaspopular, what kernel you on?10:07
posingaspopular2.6.17-12 generic10:07
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1710:08
wesleywhere do in get compiz fusion icon?10:08
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/linux-source-2.6.1710:08
posingaspopularE: Package linux-source-2.6.17 has no installation candidate10:10
posingaspopularshould i check my sources.list? i think the edgy source are commented our10:10
posingaspopularout*10:10
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, i'd try find some additional gutsy repos :)10:11
posingaspopulari give up and and im going to try vmware again10:12
posingaspopularthanks for all the help attempts ActionParsnip ;p10:14
ratpoisonhello! If I install ATI 's new fglrx drivers w/ AIGLX support, will I have problems in gutsy?10:16
ratpoisonsorry, badly formed question10:17
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, if you get some more repositorys added to your sources.list10:17
ratpoisonhello! If I install ATI 's new fglrx drivers w/ AIGLX support, will I have problems upgrading from gutsy to hardy?10:17
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, you might be able to get the headers10:17
ratpoisonsame question applies for KDE 410:17
posingaspopularim not sure which repos though10:18
posingaspopulari can show you my sources.list10:18
wesleycan someone give me the adept fix10:18
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, I'll get you some more repos10:18
wesleyadept is crased and repo is closed please help10:20
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, here is a world of repos. some have links to their authentication keys too :)10:21
ActionParsnipposingaspopular, http://graymalkin.wordpress.com/2007/09/25/gutsy-repository/10:21
wesley adept is crased and repo is closed please help10:21
ActionParsnipwesley, if you do ps -ef | grep adept do you get anything?10:22
wesleydont know that not the commando i usual get10:22
Stevethepirate!rae10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rae - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi10:23
wesley adept is crased and repo is closed please help10:23
ActionParsnipwesley, you need to type that in the console10:23
wesleybut i get from ubotu always a other code10:24
ActionParsnipwesley, the command i told you will see if adept is still running so we can kill it if it is10:24
ActionParsnipwesley, what output do you get?10:26
wesleydont know10:27
ActionParsnipwesley, well did you type it in console and hit enter?10:27
wesleyi need the code that uboyu always gives if adept is crased10:27
ActionParsnip!adeptcrash10:28
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »10:28
ActionParsnip!adeptcrash | wesley10:28
ubotuwesley: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »10:28
wesleythanks again XD10:29
ActionParsnipwesley, np, you can do those yourself if you know the words to put after the !10:29
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Riddell** testers needed of amarok in  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu {hardy,gutsy} main10:46
Oleanderhelp: am creating new parition on free space on my hdd for kunbuntu install. what do i pick for location od the new partition (beginning or end?) and use as: ??   mount point: ???10:54
christianp_hi all10:55
posingaspopulardoes anyone have a clue as to which directory the C header files for the gcc compiler in kubuntu gutsy are located?10:56
christianp_i'm a newbye with kde; i'm used to have ubuntu and this is my first kubuntu experience10:56
posingaspopularhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49007/ this msg in vmware in particular10:56
christianp_is there an applet to mount/unmount devices (i used it in ubuntu)?10:58
posingaspopularchristianp_: i think the storage media applet might do it10:59
posingaspopularnot too sure though10:59
christianp_thenks posingaspopular... it's not in the default's one?10:59
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posingaspopularumm well it should do it automiatically..11:00
posingaspopularim not sure what applet you are refering to in ubuntu specifically11:01
OleanderAm in kubuntu installation - partition.   it says no root file system is defined. i dont see where i define this. anyone lend me a hand ?11:03
rabby_heho11:04
rabby_was könnte ich dazu verwenden, ein video vom screen zu "drehen"?11:04
rabby_oh, english chan...11:05
sivajiOleander if you are not sure about these thing then i will suggest you to go for automatic partition11:05
rabby_which app may i use to capture screen (X)?11:05
sivajirabby_ press print screen key11:05
rabby_want to make a little video, not only a screenshot11:05
sivajirabby_ then use istanbul11:06
sivaji!istanbul11:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi11:06
rabby_thx11:06
Oleandersivaji: ok i'll do that. under guided i selected 30.3gb so does that mean it automatically put linux on that size parition or on the remaindeR?11:07
sivajiyes i will create a root partition of size 30GB11:08
sivajiit*11:08
Oleanderok thanks11:08
sivajiOleander do you have any other OS11:08
sivajiin your HD11:08
Oleanderyeh windows11:10
Oleanderon separate hdd11:10
sivajiOleander ok fine but in future dont install windows after installed linux11:10
sivajiOleander if such situation comes11:11
Oleanderwhy>11:11
sivajiOleander because windows bootstrap loader will remove grub loader11:12
Oleanderokies11:13
Oleandereven tho the two os's are on two physically separate hdds?11:13
kde4input problem on kubuntu gusty, the keyboad sometimes freezes for some windows, that is cannot input in the firefox address bar while ok in konsole.11:16
kde4and sometimes ok in firefox  but not in konsole and dolphin.11:17
INFOEXCLUDEDhow do i make an usb pen kde4 install ?11:18
Mabogiorno11:23
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Mabo81ciao a tutti, vorrei registrare il nick mabo ma è occupato ed in disuso chi posso contattare?11:27
posingaspopular!it11:28
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:28
posingaspopular!register | Mabo8111:28
ubotuMabo81: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration11:28
somekoolI am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg11:29
przychodnia1Hi11:35
przychodnia1anyone from poland here ?11:35
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jussi01!pl | przychodnia111:35
ubotuprzychodnia1: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl11:35
przychodnia1thx11:36
jussi01:)11:36
Maboho i pallini della connessione che continuaano a girare, come li fermo?11:42
Oleanderhelp: just installed kubuntu, got the end of install and it said restart and take out Live cd, so restarted took out cd and nothing it happening. am getting like 4 loud beeps with nothing on screen...any idea whats the problem?11:42
visofis firefox better than konqueror??11:49
podr0znikheh11:49
podr0znikof all websites I regularly use, 50% doesn't open properly in Konqueror11:50
podr0znikso basically I didn't see a worse browser than Konqueror in a looooong time :)11:50
pagof all websites I regularly use 95% work perfectly in Konq. ;)11:51
pagsome of Web2.0 stuff doesn't work though.11:51
visofvote11:52
visofevery one vote11:52
visofhahaha11:52
podr0znikwell, for me nothing goes above ff, but obviously other people have other experiences/opinions :)11:56
podr0znikand that is good, because then those poor people are not making browsers for nothing ;)11:57
stdinif the site doesn't work in konqueror, then the site is broken11:57
stdinkonqueror is 100% standards compliant (unlike most websites)11:58
Oleanderstdin: can u help me please, just installed kubuntu, got the end of install and it said restart and take out Live cd, so restarted took out cd and nothing it happening. am getting like 4 loud beeps with nothing on screen...any idea whats the problem?11:58
stdindo you see the grub screen?11:59
Oleanderi see nothing complete black on screen, even lcd is on standby (orange light)11:59
podr0znikI had also sth "funny" here12:03
podr0znikkubuntu suggested me yesterday to update some components - fine, I thought, let's do it12:03
Oleanderstdin any ideas?12:04
podr0znikthen I tried to reboot: "Kernel panic, root cannot be mounted... bla bla" something like that12:04
podr0znikso... /me did a clean install of kubuntu again12:04
podr0znikOleander, if your monitor is not going from standby, it could be something with bios I suppose12:04
stdinOleander: well if grub doesn't even show it looks like it wasn't installed right12:05
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Xbehavehmm ive been trying to get a systme setup for a friend for 12hrs now so sorry if ive missed something really simple but, how do i get compiz to start early or fix all the apps jumping out of the system tray12:06
somekoolI am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg12:07
ActionParsniphi all12:07
stdinXbehave: if there isn't a X server running on :0, then remove /tmp/.X0-lock and /tmp/.X11-unix/X012:09
Oleanderhey ActionParsnip12:09
* Jucato redirects stdin to somekool12:09
stdinwoah, Jucato's here!12:09
stdin:)12:10
Jucatono I'm not. please ignore :)12:10
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podr0znikdoes anybody have problems here with the auto update function of kubuntu 7.10?12:11
emilsedghguess who's back! Jucato !12:11
Oleanderstdin: got it to show startup screen, but saying primary drive not found. went into bios and in my boot sequence the C drive is number 1, and i cant seem to change it to my linux drive. by the way c drive isnt plugged in to mobo12:11
Jucatoemilsedgh: who?12:12
Jucato:)12:12
Jucatoanyway... gone again :P12:12
Oleanderstdin: in bios under drive config primary master drive is being regonizsed as the linux drive tho12:12
podr0znikOleander, if C drive is not plugged in to mobo, it cannot be found in BIOS12:12
stdinOleander: then you need to boot into the live CD and reinstall grub12:12
PoliticianNEWa general question: is it possible to "halt" Programs so that they do NOT exit but just do nothing (no input, no output, no internal processing of anything) - like they would not get any cpu any longer for a certain period12:13
stdin!grub12:13
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:13
stdinOleander: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:13
Oleanderthanks12:13
stdinPoliticianNEW: with apps started from the command line yes, you press Ctrl-Z12:13
stdinPoliticianNEW: or "kill -STOP (PID)" (I think it's STOP)12:14
stdinuse kill -CONT to restart it12:14
emilsedghJucato: you ;)12:14
stdinand "fg" for command line apps you stopped12:15
posingaspopularJucato: YOU!12:15
JucatoPoliticianNEW: you can right-click on the process in the ProcessTable (Ctrl+Esc) and send the signals that stdin mentioned (SIGSTOP and SIGCONT)12:15
Jucato(if those are the right ones)12:15
Jucatohheeh hi emilsedgh, hi posingaspopular. (congrats posingaspopular)12:16
Jucatobut gtg :P12:16
emilsedghJucato: come back soon12:16
Jucatoyeah, just going to scavenge for some mt.dew-induced sanity. I'll be back :)12:16
posingaspopularIf i have 3 applications open on the panel, and want to send ALL of them to a different desktop, can I do that? if so, how/12:18
Oleanderstdin: got it to work damn dell mobo peice of crap12:18
OleanderActionParsnip: i finally installed kubuntu. yay12:22
ActionParsnipOleander, sweet move dude12:25
ActionParsnipOleander, is it firing on all cylinders?12:25
Oleandernot yet i wanna get the beryl thing u were talking about the other day12:26
ActionParsnipOleander, thats good fun12:26
podr0znikif a normal system update (recommended by Adept updater) is making my system crash completely, is this then a hardware compatibility problem? (what I cannot imagine actually)12:27
Oleanderdamn...i partitioned my 120gb hdd in the install to 30gb thinking thats what the linux would install on but its installed on the remaining 86gb12:28
ActionParsnipOleander, http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59158012:28
ActionParsnipOleander, easiest way is to leave the space unpartitioned at install time12:28
podr0znikor let me rephrase my question12:29
Oleanderi tried doing it the manual way but someone on here suggested doing it the guided way.12:30
podr0znikafter a clean install, there are immediately 76 updated packages available12:30
podr0znikI guess it should be normally safe to follow those suggestions and to install them?12:30
OleanderActionParsnip: what do u recommend berly or compiz?12:31
ActionParsnipOleander, guided is best but if the space is unpartitioned the installer will see it and offer to use it for the system drives12:32
ActionParsnipOleander, I use beryl personally but others prefer compiz12:32
ActionParsnippodr0znik, I'd get them12:32
podr0znikActionParsnip, ok, but yesterday evening my system completely crashed after doing so (not booting anymore, some error about "Kernel panic")12:33
podr0znikso I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong and how to do it better ;)12:33
somekoolJucato: ???12:35
somekoolI am now getting this error on boot... anyone have any idea why ... http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg12:35
jussi01Oleander: beryl doesnt exist anymore - it merged with compiz...12:35
Oleanderoh ok12:36
jussi01Oleander: so unless you are using feisty or older...12:36
jussi01!compiz | Oleander12:36
ubotuOleander: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:36
ActionParsnip!!12:40
podr0znikActionParsnip, any idea about that error?12:41
ActionParsnippodr0znik, what packages need updating?12:41
podr0znikwell, I must admit that usually I don't look at that12:42
podr0znikwhen Adept suggest an update, I just execute it12:42
podr0znikthe same yesterday evening, but then it didn't boot anymore and was complaining about Kernel panic, that root couldn't mounted or sth like that12:42
ActionParsnipsth?12:43
podr0znikI didn't write down the complete error12:43
ActionParsnipiexecute the updates too12:43
podr0znikthen I have no idea what I'm doing wrong12:44
ActionParsniphmm12:44
ActionParsniplet me google12:44
ActionParsnipwhat kernel you on at the moment?12:44
ActionParsnipuname -r12:44
podr0znik2.6.22-14-generic12:45
podr0znikthe one supplied with 7.1012:45
podr0znik'cause I did clean install12:45
podr0znikand no updates yet12:45
TimSAnyone here use AcidRip? It always gives me a file where the audio is arround 20ms out from the video, how could I fix this?12:46
akramtest12:47
akramhow to install compiz?12:47
Stevethepirate!compiz12:47
ubotuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion12:47
akramthx^12:48
ActionParsnippodr0znik, you could try updating just the kernel (?)12:49
ActionParsnippodr0znik, or update individual things and reboot inbetween12:50
ActionParsnippodr0znik, see whats making it die12:50
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etfbpodr0znik: did you say that -14 is the latest kernel?  There's a discussion on #ubuntu right now that touches on that.  Wasn't there an upgrade a day or so ago?12:56
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etfbI just noticed: Ctrl+Shift+W doesn't close Firefox any more - it used to, but it hasn't since I upgraded to Gutsy.  Has something changed?13:00
etfb!ping13:01
ubotupong13:01
posingaspopularalt+f4 closes firefox...13:05
FatalErroretfb, isn't it usually just ctrl+w ?13:05
posingaspopularctrl+w closes the tab...13:05
Pete_^etfb: Not sure why its changed, but if I hit ctrl-w with only one tab open, it quits13:05
Pete_^ctrl-w quits the last one too.13:05
Pete_^(With Konqueror I'm used to ctrl-q for quit, and ctrl-w to close tabs)13:06
Stevethepiratelol13:06
etfbPete_^: I hated that option, so I switched it off13:07
ActionParsnipPete_^, thats cos you closed ALL thetabs. It does it on mine too13:08
lucky_lucasHi any qt4 libs is needed for a proper kubuntu ?13:13
lucky_lucasOr can I remove libqt4-core without any trouble13:13
Jucatolucky_lucas: I think only the Kubuntu Hardware Database and/or Speedcrunch depend on qt413:14
lucky_lucasJucato: arf I don't want to mess up the current default install of qt413:15
ActionParsniplucky_lucas, kde4 uses it too :D13:15
moofoohello, i've configured a luks with cryptosetup, but /etc/init.d/cryptdisks does not ask for a password on startup (i tried the patch from 62751 though I'm running gutsy but this still don't help) any idea why this does not work? one remark: the drive is attached via usb... and manually starting cryptdisks from console later on works fine13:15
JucatoActionParsnip: but that hardly qualifies as "proper Kubuntu" :D13:15
lucky_lucasI want to use the qt-copy for building kde4 from svn13:15
Jucatolucky_lucas: sure no problem w/ that13:16
Jucatolucky_lucas: following the guide on techbase.kde.org, it won't mess w/ any system installed packages (qt3/4 or kde3)... but using qt-copy would be redundant13:16
lucky_lucasYes but while building kdesdk, cmake take my libqtxml from /usr/lib instead of home kde-devel qt-copy13:16
lucky_lucasJucato: the guide on techbase isn't that up to date about the mess about qt413:17
Jucatolucky_lucas: which mess?13:17
lucky_lucasCmake would take the unpatched packages version of qt4 instead of using qt-copy13:18
Jucatolucky_lucas: theoretically, kde4 should be able to build with no problem using a vanilla qt 4.3.2... if it doesn't, that's a major bug. so it really shouldn't matter which qt4 you use13:18
Jucatohm... that's strange...13:18
tattersI have lost my toolbar somehow ,,what do I need to type in" run " to bring up the preferences so I can un-check auto hide13:19
Jucatotatters: kcontrol13:19
Jucatothen go to Desktop -> Panels13:19
lucky_lucasmy $qtdir env  points to home kde-devel but while building kdesdk, cmake complains about /usr/whatever libqtxml13:19
Jucatoif by "toolbar" you mean "panel"13:19
lucky_lucasinstead of the qt-copy one13:20
tattersk,thnx , yes it the panel that contains kmenu and systray13:20
Jucatotatters: yep. then kcontrol it is13:21
Jucatolucky_lucas: hm... strange indeed... can you try asking in #kde4-devel about this?13:21
tattersJucato: thans that did the trick13:21
lucky_lucasOk it's for sure a mess in my env since i cleaned qt several time etc... but I will go there13:22
Jucatolucky_lucas: it might also be specific to kdesdk only13:22
Jucatohm... gtg...13:22
lucky_lucasJucato: runing cmakekde on kdesdk tells me  Found Qt-Version 4.3.3 (using /home/kde-devel/qt-copy/bin/qmake)13:23
lucky_lucasIt tells me it tries to build /usr/lib/libqtxml.so, but there is no target13:24
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[ExCluSiVe_v2]Êòî ïîäñêàæåò êàê íàñòðîèòü SOCKS13:27
jussi01!en | [ExCluSiVe_v2]13:28
ubotu[ExCluSiVe_v2]: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat13:28
tattersIn remote places / samba shares I get error  "cannot find any groups maybe because a firewall is enabled" however if I use konqueror and type smb://192.etc.etc I can see all the shares, I would have thought they both sing from the same hymn sheet?13:31
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peter_!nvidia13:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto13:39
sigmathe repo versions are easier to install13:39
LopinAnyone know how to do updates on a PC that's not on the internet?13:44
zakameapt-cacher, etc?13:46
sigmai never update personally, too scared it will break something13:47
LopinI'm trying to work on a computer for one of my cousins, but my aunt refuses to have internet access, so how would I update/ install new packages while offline?13:47
sigmai think it would be a mission because ul have to download all the packages13:48
ActionParsnipLopin, do it at your place every now and again13:50
FatalErrorsounds like a job for RFC 114913:51
LopinI'm only here temporarily...  I'm here for about a month, so I'm using th neighbors wifi to get on the internet as is...13:51
tattersI built a vm with diskless remote boot linux  installs ubuntu using pxe it also caches latest packages using apt-cacher so basically I can plug the ethernet into any pxe capable network card and it automatically installs latest ubuntu + updates13:52
ActionParsnipLopin, just get them to do it whenever they can13:52
LopinThe computer I'm working on is older, and doesn't have a wireless card...13:52
Lopintatters: What?13:52
tattersthe target pc requires no internet13:52
ActionParsnipLopin, you can buy them for real cheap13:52
LopinPurchasing Hardware is out of the question...13:52
Lopintatters: You'll have to explain this to me...13:53
tatterslook into DRBL13:53
Lopintatters: Like, how to pull it off...13:53
LopinDRBL?13:53
ActionParsnipLopin, if you are there only a month how are future updates going occur?13:53
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ActionParsnipLopin, USB wifi is about 10 quid13:53
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proud_kubuntuhello peoples...13:54
ActionParsniphi proud_kubuntu13:54
proud_kubuntuyou're all KDE user's?13:54
ActionParsnipproud_kubuntu, I do yes13:54
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tattersLopin http://drbl.sourceforge.net/13:55
kroatiahow 'r' u13:55
ActionParsnipkroatia, not too bad, you ok?13:55
kroatiayes13:55
kroatiausing Konversaation for the first time...13:56
kroatia*Konversation13:56
kroatiaand i like it13:56
ScottGI'm an Xchat fan myself..13:57
kroatiawell, i just installed Kubuntu (not the first time), didn't get time to install it13:58
ScottGI see.. yeah.. I've used Xchat on every Linux distro up to now so it's one of the first things I add..13:58
ActionParsniphydrairc for my XP lappy at work. Konversation for me too13:58
ScottGI like Kubuntu.. the first sign that everything works is getting bored with it, which I am..13:59
ActionParsnipScottG, i'm like that]13:59
kroatianah, I first install important updates from my CD (i don't want to download 300mb every 12 days :))13:59
ScottGadded ubuntu-desktop last night just to play with it..13:59
tattersThat like saying you getting bored with the plate your food is served on14:00
sigmahey isn't the next beta of hardy due out tomorrow?14:00
kroatiai've been on Ubuntu 4 a long time, but  when i saw the functions of Kubuntu, i switched immediately14:00
kroatiai like Edit KDE Menu best14:01
ScottGtatters: more like getting bored with the surroundings while eating.. the amiance maybe?14:01
ScottGambiance14:01
neville__ambience =]14:02
kroatiai have that weird habit, i just like installing OS over and over (habit from XP)14:02
neville__=/14:02
neville__i was like that14:03
ScottGwell.. I turned off spell check in xchat.. I'm normally great at spelling but I don't use the word ambience much :)14:03
neville__so i just made another computer with which to do it =]14:03
kroatiaso, any of you guys from Balkan?14:03
ScottGyeah.. I have PCLinuxOS and Kubuntu on this main PC, that's it..14:03
ScottGI'm in the US.14:03
tattersVm took care of that addiction for me14:03
ActionParsnipkroatia, I used to do slipstream installs and use nlite. see how far i could hack it. but with kubuntu i can just work14:03
ScottGI use virtualbox for some things like testing hardy..14:04
kroatiai live in Croatia, but i really like hanging out on english forums/blogs/chats ect.14:04
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ScottGso how is the weather in Croatia this time of year?14:05
kroatiacold14:05
kroatiait's very cold14:05
kroatiait's so cold, that i have a cold :)14:05
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ScottGit's about -2 C here14:06
jussi01!ot | kroatia  ScottG14:06
ubotukroatia  ScottG: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!14:06
ActionParsnipis there a plugin for autocomplete in firefox so I don't have to have the googletoolbar showing?14:06
kroatiawow... -2?14:06
ScottGok.. was not aware of the off topic channel..14:06
kroatiaanyway, which browser do u use on Kubuntu?14:07
ScottGFirefox14:07
kroatiai'm pretty much satisfied with konqueror, but i don't nov how to enlarge f'ckin photos14:07
kroatia*know14:07
jussi01kroatia: please dont swear - even with the '14:08
kroatia'k, wont do it again, sorry14:08
jussi01:)14:08
kroatiaafter using ubuntu for few HOURS my friend was like "HEY, THIS ISN'T WINDOWS! I CAN'T PLAY NFS:PRO STREET ON THIS THING!"14:10
kroatiahe just liked the effects14:11
ScottGsome people (who play games) are meant for dual boot or Windows..14:11
Zombiekroatia: Did he consider trying to run it under Wine?14:11
ActionParsnipkroatia, if you got a little cash, cedega is a great gaming platform app :D