| _Sebulba_ | i had no end of probs with adept | 00:00 |
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| cloneyin_ | hello | 00:00 |
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| david__ | For example I just change a title, saved and everything was fine. | 00:00 |
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| _Sebulba_ | I use synaptic because it works | 00:00 |
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| david__ | Don't like adept either I also use synaptic but update uses adept. | 00:00 |
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| _Sebulba_ | it dont need to | 00:00 |
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| _Sebulba_ | u can use synaptic | 00:00 |
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| david__ | how? | 00:01 |
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| _Sebulba_ | run synaptic, and do an update | 00:01 |
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| cloneyin_ | -!- | 00:01 |
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| _Sebulba_ | it'll give u an error | 00:01 |
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| limac | vzduch: it says: The source can't be read. | 00:01 |
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| limac | Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.) | 00:01 |
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| david__ | no I mean auto update | 00:01 |
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| _Sebulba_ | it'll give u a dpg command | 00:01 |
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| drbobb | damn, it looks like flash in konqueror is bound to stay broken for the foreseeable future:( | 00:01 |
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| _Sebulba_ | i know, u need to do a couple of things first | 00:02 |
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| david__ | drbobb I just went through they same thing. Had to switch to firefox. | 00:02 |
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| _Sebulba_ | copy and paste that dpg command into a terminal with sudo in front of it | 00:02 |
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| drbobb | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3162 | 00:02 |
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| _Sebulba_ | that unlocks the packages from adept I belive | 00:02 |
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| _Sebulba_ | after that, run synaptic again and update | 00:03 |
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| vzduch | limac: did it pop up a window as,before you tried to play it? | 00:03 |
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| _Sebulba_ | it'll now have access to the database | 00:03 |
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| vzduch | *asking you what to do with it | 00:03 |
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| limac | vzduch: yes | 00:03 |
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| vzduch | do you have libdvdcss installed? | 00:03 |
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| drbobb | downgrading to an older version of the flash plugin is probably still an option, though | 00:03 |
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| david__ | _Sebulba_ I don't see the cmd? | 00:03 |
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| limac | hold on let me see | 00:03 |
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| limac | vzduch ^ | 00:03 |
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| _Sebulba_ | u just need to remember when u see a "you have updates" icon in your system tray, dont click on it as it';; open adept, instead open synaptic and let it handle it | 00:04 |
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| _Sebulba_ | u get an error message from synaptic? | 00:04 |
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| david__ | _Sebulba_ I don't see an update option in synaptic gui. You mean cmd line? | 00:05 |
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| limac | vzduch: from adept? | 00:05 |
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| _Sebulba_ | i cant remember the command offhand, it's a one off thing thats not needed after its run | 00:05 |
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| _Sebulba_ | the synaptic gui ....look for reload | 00:06 |
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| _Sebulba_ | that syncs your packages with the repositries | 00:06 |
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| vzduch | limac: it's available e.g. in the Medibuntu repo | 00:06 |
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| vzduch | but beware, you might break the law by installing it if you're in the US | 00:06 |
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| limac | I am in th US | 00:07 |
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| david__ | _Sebulba_ I did a synaptic --update-at-startup. no error. | 00:07 |
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| _Sebulba_ | it may give an error first time since adept has control of the package database and synaptic wants to control it | 00:07 |
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| _Sebulba_ | so it reloads ok then | 00:07 |
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| david__ | yes | 00:07 |
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| _Sebulba_ | k, now click mark all upgrades | 00:07 |
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| david__ | yes, but what about automatic updates? | 00:08 |
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| david__ | update notifier | 00:08 |
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| _Sebulba_ | the list down the left column, theres one called upgradable | 00:08 |
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| david__ | at the moment my system is complete up to date. | 00:08 |
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| drbobb | goddammit flash should die | 00:09 |
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| _Sebulba_ | I'm not sure how to tell it u want synaptic to handle the auto updates, but all clicking the update icon does is jump forward a couple of steps | 00:09 |
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| _Sebulba_ | with adept | 00:09 |
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| _Sebulba_ | what I'm getting at is using synaptic instead of adept for updates, but it does involve a couple of extra steps | 00:10 |
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| _Sebulba_ | when u see the "updates are avalable" open synaptic, reload, then mark all upgrades | 00:10 |
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| david__ | I use it for manual updates already ;) | 00:10 |
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| _Sebulba_ | after u do, the "updates are available" icon disappears, because it tracks they have been updated | 00:11 |
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| BluesKaj | _Sebulba_, synaptic has a fix broken pkgs option , which adept/apt lack | 00:11 |
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| _Sebulba_ | it does | 00:11 |
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| Rudd-O | hi guise | 00:12 |
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| OilR0ck | apt-get install -f fixes packages. and adept works fine imo | 00:12 |
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| giuseppe | hi to everyone | 00:12 |
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| giuseppe | can I ask for a question? | 00:12 |
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| Rudd-O | sure | 00:12 |
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| Rudd-O | go ahead | 00:12 |
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| david__ | ok, back to my original problem. why isn't kmenuedit saving my changes? | 00:12 |
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| BluesKaj | adept reads the first letters in the search whereas synaptic looks at the wholw word/phrase and spits out more options | 00:13 |
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| Rudd-O | uhmmm... hmmmm | 00:13 |
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| david__ | AFTER I press save | 00:13 |
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| giuseppe | well, I'm a new user of Linux | 00:13 |
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| Rudd-O | BluesKaj: in the search? i thought adept searched in the whole package name | 00:13 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: welcome to the wonderful world of linux then | 00:13 |
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| limac | vzduch: so wat can i do to play the dvd?? | 00:13 |
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| giuseppe | oh, thanks | 00:13 |
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| giuseppe | well | 00:13 |
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| OilR0ck | david__: can you write to your homedirectory? if you create a new user and login to kde with that user, does kmenu work? | 00:13 |
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| giuseppe | so I was successfull to connect my mobile phone to internet | 00:13 |
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| giuseppe | ok? | 00:13 |
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| vzduch | limac: if you want to comply w/ the law, use a DVD player | 00:14 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: yes, please create a new user, just for testing, and try to use kmenuedit there, to see if we can separate your user configuration from kmenuedit bugs | 00:14 |
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| david__ | yes I can write to my own home dir. Where is kmenu saved OilR0ck | 00:14 |
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| Rudd-O | I know it's a tall order to try that crap out, but it certainly helps in identify ing the cause | 00:14 |
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| giuseppe | well, ok | 00:14 |
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| vzduch | we in Europe don't have these problems | 00:14 |
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| giuseppe | but I try to explain my problem | 00:14 |
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| BluesKaj | Rudd-O, try the first 3-4 letters of an app and see what comes up in adept vs synaptic | 00:14 |
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| giuseppe | be patience | 00:14 |
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| giuseppe | :-) | 00:14 |
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| Rudd-O | BluesKaj: thanks for the tip | 00:14 |
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| limac | vzduch: so i can't play the dvd using my computer! | 00:14 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: we'll try ;-) | 00:14 |
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| giuseppe | now I'm connected here using my mobile phone | 00:15 |
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| limac | ? | 00:15 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: awesome | 00:15 |
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| giuseppe | so, I'm sure it's working | 00:15 |
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| vzduch | afaik that's not allowed over there | 00:15 |
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| giuseppe | ok? | 00:15 |
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| limac | but with vista I could play dvd's | 00:15 |
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| JuJuBee | I just upgraded to 7.10 and have onboard audio (VIA 8237), but only get sound out of 1 speaker. The speakers are fine, they both work under windows. Any suggestions? | 00:15 |
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| limac | ! and not with linux? | 00:15 |
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| giuseppe | the problem is that when I launch konqueror web vrowser, I'm not able to surf on internet | 00:16 |
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| giuseppe | was I just clear about my problem? | 00:16 |
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| _Sebulba_ | limac, its licencing with codecs, with vista part of the cost went to the licnece | 00:16 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: what error do you geT? | 00:16 |
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| _Sebulba_ | u can play dvds in linux, it's just kinda illegal in most countries | 00:16 |
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| giuseppe | for example | 00:16 |
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| limac | all right then | 00:16 |
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| Rudd-O | JuJuBee: one speaker? maybe you have connected the gear to the wrong output, because that usually happens when you connect it to the center one | 00:16 |
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| giuseppe | when I try to connect to www.google.it | 00:17 |
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| giuseppe | it says: Could not connect to host http://www.google.it/. | 00:17 |
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| _Sebulba_ | if u wanna stay legal the short answer is you cant play dvds in linux | 00:17 |
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| JuJuBee | No, only have one output on audio card. | 00:17 |
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| Rudd-O | could not connect? | 00:17 |
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| Rudd-O | but it doesnt say unknown host ? | 00:17 |
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| Rudd-O | then you probably need to talk to your cell phone company ask them why you can't connect | 00:17 |
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| _Sebulba_ | chances are it's not going to be checked, so if u wanna risk it then you can | 00:17 |
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| giuseppe | correct | 00:17 |
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| giuseppe | it only says: | 00:18 |
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| giuseppe | An error occurred while loading http://www.google.it/: | 00:18 |
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| giuseppe | Could not connect to host http://www.google.it/. | 00:18 |
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| giuseppe | so, I have no idea | 00:18 |
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| giuseppe | I'm trying for many hours | 00:18 |
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| Rudd-O | try from a console the follwoing command | 00:18 |
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| _Sebulba_ | its libdvdcss I believe | 00:18 |
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| Rudd-O | ping www.google.it | 00:18 |
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| giuseppe | :-( | 00:18 |
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| Rudd-O | see if there is any response | 00:18 |
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| giuseppe | just a second | 00:18 |
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| _Sebulba_ | libdvdcss | 00:18 |
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| giuseppe | yes, I see many responses | 00:19 |
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| limac | _Sebulba: libdvdcss is not avaible in adept, i can't find it! | 00:20 |
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| giuseppe | something like this | 00:20 |
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| giuseppe | 64 bytes from nf-........................google.com (xxxxxxxxxxxxx)....................64ms | 00:20 |
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| giuseppe | ok? | 00:20 |
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| Rudd-O | oh, its ok | 00:21 |
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| Rudd-O | now try telnet www.google.it | 00:21 |
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| giuseppe | then I ran ctrc+c | 00:21 |
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| Rudd-O | if it doesn't connect, then you need to talk to your isp | 00:21 |
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| giuseppe | to stop it | 00:21 |
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| giuseppe | I wrote your suggested command | 00:22 |
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| giuseppe | it says: trying 64.233.183.104 | 00:22 |
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| giuseppe | ... | 00:22 |
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| _Sebulba_ | I'm not sure where to get libdvdcss sorry | 00:22 |
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| _Sebulba_ | google it | 00:22 |
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| vzduch | !medibuntu | _Sebulba_, limac | 00:23 |
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| ubotu | _Sebulba_, limac: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org | 00:23 |
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| JuJuBee | Rudd-O : only 1 port to connect speakers to (green jack). Other is blue and other is red. | 00:23 |
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| Rudd-O | check the balance in the mixer? | 00:23 |
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| _Sebulba_ | ubotu the bot just explained why its not in the repos | 00:23 |
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| Rudd-O | tweak it? | 00:23 |
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| JuJuBee | I did, the right channel is down | 00:24 |
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| giuseppe | So Rudd-0 any idea? | 00:24 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: you probably need a proxy from your ISP | 00:24 |
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| JuJuBee | When I go to right side, nothing, in center and left OK | 00:24 |
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| drbobb | oops, it's not very easy to locate an older version of the linux flash plugin | 00:24 |
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| Rudd-O | because the host is responsive but the ISP is blocking connections to the web server | 00:24 |
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| giuseppe | excuse me for my ignorance | 00:24 |
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| giuseppe | but what have I to do? | 00:24 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: you od not need to excuse yourself | 00:24 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: talk to your cellphone company | 00:24 |
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| Rudd-O | they will probably know what to do | 00:24 |
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| giuseppe | so, what I have to ask for? | 00:25 |
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| vzduch | DNS server, I suppose | 00:26 |
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| drbobb | hey maybe one of you guys has a flash plugin old enough to still work under konqueror? | 00:26 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: proxy server address | 00:26 |
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| vzduch | drbobb: the 9.0.48.0 works | 00:26 |
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| JuJuBee | Rudd-O : just played with the levels in kmix, raised one up then down now I have both channels. Weird.. | 00:26 |
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| Rudd-O | JuJuBee: jujuuuuu! | 00:26 |
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| Rudd-O | ;:-) | 00:26 |
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| drbobb | that would be the case if you hadn't upgraded since late november, roughly | 00:27 |
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| JuJuBee | Was the PCM | 00:27 |
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| Rudd-O | PCM: Pulse Crap modulation | 00:27 |
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| giuseppe | well, but I have to say that I selected direct connection without proxy server in konqueror | 00:27 |
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| drbobb | vzduch: knowing the numbers doesn't help | 00:27 |
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| JuJuBee | Nice ;) | 00:27 |
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| flaccid | my flash plugin works in konq and i have the latest | 00:27 |
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| giuseppe | can be it the problem? | 00:27 |
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| flaccid | well apparently | 00:27 |
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| vzduch | drbobb: I had the 9.0.115.0 myself, but downgraded because it didn't work | 00:27 |
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| JuJuBee | Glad to have both channels back, music was crappy with only 1. | 00:27 |
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| drbobb | question is where do you find a copy of the old one | 00:28 |
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| vzduch | no idea | 00:28 |
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| flaccid | what is the package installed currently for flash plugin? | 00:28 |
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| vzduch | I fetched mine from Adobe directly (Fedora 8) | 00:28 |
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| Rudd-O | JuJuBee: indeed | 00:28 |
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| drbobb | the adobe installer not having a version number in the filename doesn't help | 00:28 |
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| flaccid | i have this in my system and flash works in konq fine: ii flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12 Adobe Flash Player plugin installer | 00:29 |
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| drbobb | adobe apparently provides the current version only | 00:29 |
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| JuJuBee | Well, gotta fly, Nigh all... | 00:29 |
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| vzduch | flaccid: apt-cache showpkg flashplugin-nonfree | 00:29 |
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| vzduch | should tell you where it came from | 00:29 |
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| flaccid | isn't there a switch to ignore the mismatch | 00:29 |
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| drbobb | flaccid: then you could help me | 00:29 |
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| flaccid | can you paste the error please | 00:30 |
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| vzduch | flaccid: there's no pasting errors afaik.. nspluginwrapper crashes & no playing of local swf files | 00:31 |
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| giuseppe | Rudd-0: thanks a lot for your availability | 00:31 |
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| drbobb | you probably have adobe's package in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/ | 00:31 |
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| flaccid | oh ok so its installed | 00:31 |
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| drbobb | the version that still works | 00:31 |
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| flaccid | but you played with 3rd party install so you probably borked it | 00:31 |
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| giuseppe | I will ask to my company... by the way I hope to find you another time because don't think they will be able to halp me | 00:31 |
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| giuseppe | :) | 00:32 |
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| flaccid | i have this: http://pastebin.ca/827787 | 00:32 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: sorry i missed it, what was the problem | 00:32 |
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| === cheguevara_ is now known as CheGuevara |
| giuseppe | where I wrote to Root-0, by the way I can ask you the same | 00:33 |
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| giuseppe | I'm connected here using my mobile phone | 00:33 |
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| Rudd-O | they must be able to help you | 00:33 |
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| david_ | ok update on my kmenu problem. I think I've been here before this seems vaguely familiar. I can delete and reorder no problem but I can't add a new item | 00:33 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: but I'm not able to surf using konqueror | 00:33 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: another browser works? | 00:34 |
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| drbobb | flaccid: the flash issue is adobe's fault afaik | 00:34 |
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| david_ | can someone just walk through quick short steps of adding a item to the menu? | 00:34 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: I just install kubuntu | 00:34 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: im trying to work out what the flash issue actually is... | 00:34 |
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| drbobb | their most recent release breaks in konq & opera | 00:34 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: so I didn't try... | 00:34 |
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| flaccid | david_: right click the k and goto menu editor | 00:34 |
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| david_ | ype | 00:35 |
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| david_ | yep | 00:35 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: try another browser and come back | 00:35 |
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| _Sebulba_ | right click on the group u want to add something into, then add item | 00:35 |
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| OilR0ck | david_: I _think_ your menu edits should be stored in ~/.config/menus | 00:35 |
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| david_ | btw drbobb: the flash problem is a known problem. Adobe changed the way 9.0.x works. | 00:35 |
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| david_ | OilR0ck I found that. | 00:36 |
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| fernando_ | ls | 00:36 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: sorry can you help me about installation of another browser? | 00:36 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: it's not the browser | 00:36 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: we confimed that with TELNET | 00:36 |
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| drbobb | david_: yes i know, i already discovered that. knowing it does not help much. | 00:36 |
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| drbobb | Rudd-O: what did you do w/telnet, i missed that | 00:37 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: rudd-0 says the problem is proxy server address | 00:37 |
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| david_ | I understand. but unless you are a programmer (which you could be, I don't know) you can't do anything to make that work. You can still use previous versions but of course you'll have problems with 9.x swf's | 00:37 |
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| Rudd-O | giuseppe: it does not connect to the server | 00:37 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: he was very able to check it | 00:37 |
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| === asa is now known as asacan |
| david_ | drbobb ^ | 00:38 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: do you require a proxy server with your isp? | 00:38 |
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| drbobb | david_: earlier releases of 9.x did work, so i'm looking for a copy of an earlier release | 00:38 |
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| giuseppe | Rudd-O: yes you are right, but flaccid seemed to know my problem :-) | 00:38 |
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| _Sebulba_ | gotta go | 00:38 |
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| flaccid | i don't know anything yet | 00:38 |
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| giuseppe | sorry, but ISP is? | 00:39 |
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| flaccid | the people that give your internet account | 00:39 |
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| drbobb | david_: telnet www.google.it would not work no matter what | 00:39 |
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| drbobb | you wanted 'telnet www.google.it 80' | 00:40 |
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| david_ | ? | 00:40 |
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| Rudd-O | drbobb: telnet to port 23 would never work | 00:40 |
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| david_ | someone else. My problem is with the menu | 00:40 |
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| Rudd-O | they dont run telnet daemons | 00:40 |
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| OilR0ck | so what happens when you add a menu item | 00:41 |
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| drbobb | telnet defaults to port 23 | 00:41 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: well, I can say that when I use "windows" and firefox I use direct connection without proxy server... | 00:41 |
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| OilR0ck | can you touch ~/.config/menus/test | 00:41 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: test another browser then come back | 00:41 |
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| david_ | drbobb. Just in case you don't already know. You just need the .so file | 00:41 |
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| flaccid | david_: did you try the menu editor as advised? | 00:41 |
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| david_ | ? | 00:41 |
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| david_ | yes | 00:41 |
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| goplay\linOzor91 | WRAARRRR!!! I'm the Tomato Monstahhhhh! WRAARRRR!!! | 00:42 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: thanks, I used telnet www.google.it 80 | 00:42 |
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| drbobb | david_: yes i know that. which makes little difference as long as i don;t have it | 00:42 |
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| david_ | I can delete, move existing items fine. | 00:42 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: it says: | 00:42 |
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| giuseppe | Connected to www.l.google.com. | 00:42 |
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| giuseppe | Escape character is '^]'. | 00:42 |
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| giuseppe | Connection closed by foreign host. | 00:42 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: any more idea? | 00:42 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: how did you go with testing a different browser | 00:43 |
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| david_ | drbobb. just trying to make life a little easier. try googling "index of" flash(whatever).so | 00:43 |
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| flaccid | i can only help if you listen | 00:43 |
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| OilR0ck | do you have .config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu | 00:43 |
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| david_ | look for an old date. | 00:43 |
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| drbobb | giuseppe: does it close the connection right away, without you doing anything? | 00:43 |
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| david_ | flaccid is that meant for me? | 00:43 |
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| flaccid | nah giuseppe | 00:43 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: correct | 00:43 |
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| david_ | ok | 00:43 |
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| * flaccid waits for people to do things | 00:44 |
| giuseppe | flaccid: I would try another browser... but how to install for example mozilla? | 00:44 |
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| drbobb | well all i can say is that's wrong, it's not what sould happen | 00:44 |
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| david_ | giuseppe that is all that will happen when you telnet into a website. | 00:44 |
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| drbobb | should even | 00:44 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: install the package mozilla with your favourite package editor | 00:44 |
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| david_ | flaccid ;) | 00:45 |
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| flaccid | you can telnet anything... | 00:45 |
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| flaccid | well nearly anything, it does raw ascii through the terminal | 00:45 |
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| david_ | flaccid while your wait. humour by walking one step at a time at adding a menu item to kmenu. you stopped at right click edit menu | 00:45 |
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| maxidesqac | Hi, i am new and i have a problem | 00:45 |
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| Downix | Hi new!! | 00:45 |
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| maxidesqac | There isn t sound!!! | 00:46 |
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| OilR0ck | david_: do you have .config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu ? If not, create it and then try | 00:46 |
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| david_ | yes | 00:46 |
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| flaccid | david_: this is not a holding hand service. im sure you can work it out from there, menu editor could be used by a 6 year old | 00:46 |
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| david_ | ;) | 00:46 |
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| OilR0ck | then remove it and recreate it and try | 00:46 |
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| david_ | Listen. Just looking for something missing from system like an apply button or something. | 00:46 |
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| drbobb | giuseppe: after the telnet the connection should hang around for a while | 00:47 |
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| drbobb | giving you enough time to type in something like | 00:47 |
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| maxidesqac | I need sound on my kubuntu | 00:47 |
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| david_ | I've been using linux for over a year. Please humour me. | 00:47 |
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| drbobb | HEAD / HTTP/1.0 | 00:47 |
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| drbobb | (+ hit enter twice) | 00:47 |
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| david_ | I know that kde has problems with sudo so I just wonder if that is my problem. | 00:47 |
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| drbobb | that ought to get a response | 00:48 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: well I wrote "ciao" | 00:48 |
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| flaccid | david_: i thought i did :) | 00:48 |
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| drbobb | ah so | 00:48 |
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| OilR0ck | sudo has nothing to do with kmenuedit. you are editing for your user,, not all users | 00:48 |
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| flaccid | why are you using sudo, sorry i don't know what your problem actually is | 00:48 |
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| drbobb | i guess your net connection is working correctly then | 00:48 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: and then appear many chars and connection closed by foreignhost | 00:48 |
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| david_ | OilR0ck grovey!!! a helpful piece of info. | 00:48 |
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| david_ | not using sudo | 00:48 |
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| maxidesqac | Guys, I have a problem, I have no sound | 00:49 |
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| flaccid | are you trolling david_? it sounds like it | 00:49 |
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| david_ | no. | 00:49 |
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| david_ | I really want to fix this. | 00:49 |
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| OilR0ck | please do what i suggested, remove applications-kmenuedit.menu as your user and then try | 00:49 |
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| david_ | I just went back to kde today after one year on gnome/ubuntu | 00:49 |
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| flaccid | david_: so what is your actual problem with the kmenu? | 00:49 |
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| maxidesqac | <OilR0ck> for me' | 00:49 |
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| maxidesqac | ? | 00:49 |
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| OilR0ck | maxidesqac: no sorry | 00:50 |
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| david_ | OilR0ck I did, it didn't make any difference | 00:50 |
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| maxidesqac | Ok | 00:50 |
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| vzduch | david_: the menu editor has a menu where you can choose 'File → Save' | 00:50 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: so...? | 00:50 |
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| OilR0ck | david_: so if you remove it, then try to edit the menu, does that file get created? | 00:50 |
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| flaccid | lol | 00:50 |
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| david_ | Ok once again... I can delete items and the go away, I can reorder items and that saves. I can't add. | 00:50 |
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| flaccid | so when you go to add in menu editor what happens david_ | 00:51 |
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| OilR0ck | its likely a permission issue | 00:51 |
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| david_ | vzduch I tried file>save and the save icon. | 00:51 |
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| flaccid | david_: so a sudo chown -R `whoami` ~/.kde | 00:51 |
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| tehm0nk | whats with my sound... it worked in the live cd but not now | 00:51 |
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| david_ | OilR0ck no | 00:51 |
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| drbobb | giuseppe: sorry i wasn't following your problem from the start | 00:51 |
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| OilR0ck | no just ~/.kde, ~/.config | 00:51 |
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| flaccid | david_: and what happens when you try to save...... | 00:51 |
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| drbobb | is it that you can't browse the web? | 00:52 |
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| tehm0nk | Does Xinerama break DRI? | 00:52 |
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| OilR0ck | .config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu is the file that kmenuedit modifies | 00:52 |
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| vzduch | david_: yes, you can --> File → New element | 00:52 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: correct | 00:52 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: instead of continuing to go on about it, can you please try another browser... | 00:52 |
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| david_ | vzduch yes I did that file - New Item. | 00:52 |
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| drbobb | konqueror can't connect to any site? | 00:52 |
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| giuseppe | any site | 00:53 |
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| david_ | vzduch it asks for an item name | 00:53 |
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| david_ | flaccid I did the chmod | 00:53 |
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| flaccid | hmm | 00:53 |
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| david_ | but that wasn't it. | 00:53 |
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| vzduch | david_: then give it one | 00:53 |
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| OilR0ck | did you do it for ~/.config? | 00:53 |
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| flaccid | david_: you are yet to explain any actual behavour. sounds like a troller | 00:53 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: the problem is that I'm not able to install immediataly another browser | 00:53 |
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| flaccid | !doesntwork | 00:54 |
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| ubotu | Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. | 00:54 |
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| flaccid | please read above | 00:54 |
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| david_ | vzduch it's now sitting with a blank entry. | 00:54 |
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| giuseppe | drbobb: and then Robb-O told me the problem is ISP and not web browser | 00:54 |
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| flaccid | we need a specific problem as telepathy is not available | 00:54 |
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| drbobb | giuseppe: will your connection get dropped if you log out and log back in? | 00:54 |
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| david_ | (flaccid) sorry I'm going to have to ignore you for a minute. | 00:54 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: we are yet to work that out because you won't try another browser | 00:54 |
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| OilR0ck | giuseppe: at a command prompt type: sudo apt-get install firefox | 00:54 |
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| flaccid | everyone ignore david_ | 00:54 |
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| david_ | vzduch... can you please continue? | 00:54 |
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| david_ | vzduch what is the min I need to enter now. | 00:55 |
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| david_ | just a name and a command? | 00:55 |
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| flaccid | i thought you had been using linux for over a year now | 00:55 |
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| david_ | flaccid I know you think I'm kidding around but I'm really not. | 00:55 |
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| === Katze is now known as Shely |
| flaccid | well you speak many contradictions, so its hard to believe you | 00:56 |
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| vzduch | this thing is rather self-explanatory | 00:56 |
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| david_ | I'm sitting at a blank entry for a new item. | 00:56 |
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| === Shely is now known as Katze |
| david_ | listen it we walk through to the end I'm sure it will become clear what is wrong. | 00:56 |
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| vzduch | you still have the mask as a guide, even if it's grayed out | 00:56 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: what I have to download to install firefox? | 00:56 |
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| flaccid | david_: press f1 in menu editor all the help is there for this process | 00:57 |
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| tehm0nk | any dualhead gurus around? | 00:57 |
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| OilR0ck | giuseppe: at a command prompt type: sudo apt-get install firefox | 00:57 |
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| OilR0ck | do you guys not read | 00:57 |
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| drbobb | yeah most don;t | 00:57 |
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| drbobb | don't even | 00:57 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: [11:57] <OilR0ck> giuseppe: at a command prompt type: sudo apt-get install firefox . please listen | 00:57 |
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| giuseppe | flaccid: done, but it says "no package" | 00:58 |
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| flaccid | sometimes its like you are talking to a brick wall lol | 00:58 |
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| david_ | flaccid just looked it's very basic not step by step just what the options are | 00:58 |
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| flaccid | giuseppe: learn package management first | 00:58 |
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| flaccid | !info firefox | giuseppe | 00:58 |
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| ubotu | giuseppe: firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.11+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10 (gutsy), package size 8969 kB, installed size 26024 kB | 00:58 |
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| flaccid | !adept | giuseppe | 00:58 |
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| ubotu | giuseppe: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto | 00:58 |
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| OilR0ck | lol | 00:59 |
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| flaccid | david_: ah well sorry. i guess nobody wants to hold your hand. | 00:59 |
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| drbobb | like when i was asking for help with the flash plugin issue | 00:59 |
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| flaccid | when need a specific error/unexpected behaviour othewise we can't really help | 00:59 |
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| drbobb | several folks said things that are true, and known to me, but completely unhelpful | 00:59 |
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| flaccid | i think im still waiting for your error, drbobb | 00:59 |
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| drbobb | flaccid: it is well known what the error is | 01:00 |
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| flaccid | well know by who? | 01:00 |
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| drbobb | and the only workaround that can be used today is reverting to an older flash plugin | 01:00 |
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| david_ | vzduch - I have filed in Name, Description, and Command - now when I press the save icon (which I haven't done yet) it says saving and then doesn't save. | 01:01 |
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| flaccid | david_: try #kde | 01:01 |
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| drbobb | known to kde devs for instance, they have blogged about it | 01:01 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: then there is nothing else we can do for you. | 01:01 |
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| === litbang is now known as riefzu |
| OilR0ck | what is the error? I'm using flashplugin-nonfree 9.0.48.0.2+really0ubuntu12, seems to work fine.. | 01:01 |
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| flaccid | OilR0ck: apparently its well known | 01:01 |
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| flaccid | lol | 01:02 |
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| drbobb | well that't what i meant about folks not reading | 01:02 |
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| drbobb | that's | 01:02 |
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| flaccid | if i missed your error im sorry, but i cannot find it in my log | 01:02 |
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| limac | whenever i switch from one videos to another and then another and so on, but after a while, the firefox window gets frozen and i have to terminate it and that's how it goes, it only happens in the cases of games and youtube vidoes? what's wrong? | 01:02 |
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| drbobb | OilR0ck: as soon as you upgrade it will stop working | 01:02 |
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| tim | hi | 01:03 |
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| tim | I cant isntall NVidia driver on kubuntu 8.04 ? can u plz help me? | 01:03 |
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| drbobb | you are just lucky to still have an out of date version | 01:03 |
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| david_ | flaccid _ i just put up a request but just one more thing. after I have enter the info is there something I should do before I press the save icon (the first icon) | 01:03 |
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| flaccid | limac: i've had that a lot, not sure what it is, not really something easilty worked out. you could submit a !bugs | 01:03 |
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| OilR0ck | its is the version in the kubuntu repos... | 01:03 |
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| OilR0ck | so you could try reverting to that | 01:03 |
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| drbobb | no it does not work that way | 01:03 |
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| limac | flaccid: can it be because i have a celeron proc essor? | 01:04 |
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| drbobb | the flashplugin package does not contain the flash plugin | 01:04 |
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| tim | Can i plz help me to isntall nvidia for Kubutnu 8.04 ? | 01:04 |
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| flaccid | david_: not according to the help file walk-through | 01:04 |
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| OilR0ck | yeah, you download it, so there is a new version that gets downloaded is what your are saying? | 01:04 |
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| david_ | ? | 01:04 |
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| flaccid | limac: doubt it. more likely the problem is flash or the flash object | 01:04 |
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| drbobb | it's a script that downloads the plugin from adobe and installs it on your system | 01:04 |
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| limac | tim: kubuntu 8.04 isn't at all stable yet | 01:04 |
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| tehm0nk | anyone know about nvidia onboard sound drivers? | 01:05 |
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| tim | limac: Exactly so how do i isntall nvidia ? | 01:05 |
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| drbobb | and the version currently provided by adobe does not work with konq or opera | 01:05 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: please pastebin the error from apt-get install . i might be able to find a switch to allow it to install... | 01:05 |
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| limac | tim: try envy | 01:05 |
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| drbobb | flaccid: there is no error from apt-get install | 01:05 |
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| tim | limac it does not work on Kubuntu | 01:05 |
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| OilR0ck | drbobb: i get it, thats sucks | 01:05 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: well until you let me know exactly what happens... | 01:06 |
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| drbobb | i described the issue quite precisely above, just read | 01:06 |
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| tim | limac: envy does not work in Kubuntu at leat not in 8.04 | 01:06 |
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| limac | tim: but it works in 7.10 | 01:06 |
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| limac | hmmmmmm | 01:06 |
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| david_ | flaccid - ok I just found the walkthrough in ch 2. | 01:06 |
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| drbobb | nspluginviewer segfaults on any page that contains flash | 01:06 |
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| OilR0ck | i'd look at filing or check bug reports on that, as a specific version is specified in the kubuntu package. if you are downloading a different one, at the very least the package version should be changed | 01:06 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: so are you saying it installs successfully? | 01:06 |
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| drbobb | if that helps you | 01:06 |
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| tim | And when i try to isntall it from the reepos it gives me message giving the lsit of confilicted repos and saying that i need to delete kubuntu-desktop before isntalling nvidia-glx | 01:06 |
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| limac | tim ; what graphics card do u have | 01:06 |
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| limac | ? | 01:06 |
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| tim | limac: Geforce 5700Le | 01:07 |
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| flaccid | hoooray, i know what happens now! can't help with a segfault but you could try to find an older version as you said. repeating in here won't help | 01:07 |
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| flaccid | tim: install the package kubuntu-desktop | 01:07 |
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| DarkJimmy | hello | 01:07 |
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| limac | tim: so u are trying to installing the nvidia drivers | 01:07 |
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| limac | ? | 01:07 |
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| flaccid | then install the package restricted-manager-kde to install the nv driver | 01:07 |
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| tim | it says that i need to unisntall it , in order to isntall nvidia driver | 01:08 |
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| tim | limac: yes | 01:08 |
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| flaccid | tim: pastebin the whole output | 01:08 |
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| limac | tim: are your restricted drivers enabled? | 01:08 |
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| david_ | flaccid - ok here is something interesting. I am doing exactly what is shown. But after I enter firefox and press enter everything is blank including the new entry. | 01:08 |
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| drbobb | ok forget it. no help to be found here. | 01:08 |
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| limac | all of them? | 01:08 |
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| david_ | flaccid (2nd step) | 01:09 |
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| flaccid | david_: yeah i don't know what is causing your bug if the perms are fine on the config file(s).. | 01:09 |
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| david_ | k | 01:09 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: users can't help segfaults only developers | 01:09 |
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| flaccid | kubuntu has many bugs :) | 01:10 |
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| drbobb | boy are you bright | 01:10 |
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| drbobb | when did i say i was asking someone to debug a segfault | 01:10 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: and you are sarcastic. | 01:10 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: how did you expect us to help with a segfault sorry? | 01:10 |
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| drbobb | i asked a couple of times for help with locating an older version | 01:10 |
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| tim | I am getting this message when it try to install nvidia-glx in Kubuntu http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1iu9.png | 01:10 |
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| david_ | drbobb !!! I just remembered. My wife's computer has kubuntu fiesty on it. I think I have the older .so. brb | 01:11 |
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| drbobb | which many people here still happen to have on their systems | 01:11 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: yeah and i don't know where to get that | 01:11 |
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| flaccid | you want my pkg drbobb? | 01:11 |
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| drbobb | yeah i expect that would work. | 01:11 |
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| limac | flaccid: people before me are working on them | 01:12 |
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| drbobb | as you know libflashplayer.so is enough | 01:12 |
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| flaccid | limac: working on what sorry? | 01:12 |
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| tim | flaccid: do u know what to do? | 01:12 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz this will do ? | 01:12 |
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| flaccid | tim: with what | 01:13 |
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| flaccid | oh sorry looking now tim | 01:13 |
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| tim | I am getting this message when it try to install nvidia-glx in http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1iu9.png | 01:13 |
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| drbobb | now to explain myself in full, the problem with googling for it is that every one of a hundred or so versions of this file released by adobe/macromedia has the exact same file name | 01:13 |
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| david_ | drbobb this is your lucky day it's v 9.0r48 | 01:13 |
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| david_ | I'll zip it up if you want | 01:13 |
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| drbobb | no need to it's already compressed | 01:13 |
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| flaccid | am i sending or is david_? | 01:14 |
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| limac | flaccid: other people already REPORTED that bug before me! :D | 01:14 |
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| drbobb | i'll be happy to have it, it's dr.bobik@gmail.com | 01:14 |
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| flaccid | limac: i don't know what you are talking about ah well | 01:14 |
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| tim | So does any one know how to install ? nvidia-glx ? | 01:14 |
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| david_ | sorry I must have missed something I've been back and forth between two machines brb | 01:14 |
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| limac | flaccid: you know the firefox crashing bugs | 01:16 |
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| flaccid | tim: do what it says. kubuntu-desktop is only a meta package, but it worries me that it wan'ts to remove xorg.... you might wanna check your repos. also we don't support synaptic here. | 01:16 |
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| dor0 | hello guys, any reasons why "nosplash" is working and "spalsh" isnt in grub? | 01:16 |
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| flaccid | limac: oh there are hundreds of those. we all suffer it | 01:16 |
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| tim | flaccid: should I do what it says? | 01:16 |
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| flaccid | tim: if you are on gutsy just do what i said before... | 01:16 |
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| flaccid | tim: like i said before use restricted-manager-kde | 01:17 |
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| tim | should i try to downlaod it now? | 01:17 |
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| fsckr | tim, just enable it :) | 01:17 |
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| flaccid | tim: just install the package restricted-manager-kde and then run kdesu restricted-manager-kde and then enable the nv restricted driver and reboot | 01:17 |
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| flaccid | i don't know why synaptic wants to remove xorg and i don't know what you requested in synaptic to do that.. | 01:18 |
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| fsckr | oops sorry flaccid i jumped in that | 01:18 |
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| OrionFyre | <- Newbie with a backup question | 01:18 |
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| tim | flaccid: I think last time i tried to do this in kubuntu 8.04 it gave me message that some dependecies can not be resolved tyhefore can not be installed | 01:18 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as jojojo |
| flaccid | well one can only try | 01:19 |
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| nitro4ce | is there a way to check a password i stored in kwallet? | 01:19 |
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| nitro4ce | i completely forgot t | 01:19 |
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| === cheguevara is now known as CheGuevara |
| flaccid | tim: which version of ubuntu are you doing this on? | 01:20 |
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| OrionFyre | before installing Kubuntu i want to back up a 1:1 of my hard drive should i decide in the rare chance i want to return to vistacrap | 01:20 |
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| tim | flaccid: kubuntu 8.04 | 01:20 |
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| fsckr | 8.04? | 01:21 |
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| flaccid | tim: is that the next ubuntu ? because thats supported in #ubuntu+1 not here | 01:21 |
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| fsckr | is that the alpha? | 01:21 |
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| david_ | drbobb ok. there is actually 2 files so I gz'd them together. Originally it was installed to /lib/flashplugin-nonfree with symlinks to the plugins /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins dir and other plugins dirs. | 01:22 |
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| david_ | drobobb the question is what is the best way to send it to you? | 01:22 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: email sent | 01:22 |
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| tim | yes alpha 2 | 01:22 |
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| flaccid | tim: goto #ubuntu+1 . we can't support that here sorry | 01:23 |
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| skarface | do I need to add apt sources for kde4 as the website says? it looks like kde4base is there already. | 01:23 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as katibi |
| DarkJimmy | hello all, I've installed kubuntu on my laptop and when I close the screen it messes up | 01:24 |
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| DarkJimmy | http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1513/22122007002cv2.jpg [hi-res] | 01:24 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: which card and driver for video are you using? | 01:25 |
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| DarkJimmy | er, help! | 01:25 |
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| DarkJimmy | nvidia geforce 4 go | 01:25 |
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| DarkJimmy | default driver | 01:26 |
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| flaccid | and which driver? | 01:26 |
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| flaccid | ok is this on gutsy? | 01:26 |
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| OilR0ck | skarface: yes you do | 01:26 |
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| DarkJimmy | havn't installed any | 01:26 |
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| tehm0nk | it dumbfounds me that non of you are on Nforce onboard sound... | 01:26 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: change to the nv restricted driver via restricted-manager-kde | 01:26 |
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| DarkJimmy | can you translate to linux-noob speak, please? | 01:27 |
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| flaccid | i got an m audio firewire 410 pro sound card, pitty no linux driver :( | 01:27 |
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| OrionFyre | can someone point me in the direction of how to back up my drive pre-install? thx | 01:27 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: install the package restricted-manager-kde and then run kdesudo restricted-manager-kde | 01:27 |
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| flaccid | what is a drive pre-install ? | 01:28 |
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| fsckr | flaccid, its already installed | 01:28 |
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| flaccid | fsckr: what is? | 01:28 |
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| fsckr | DarkJimmy, click on the k bottom left | 01:28 |
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| fsckr | yea | 01:28 |
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| OilR0ck | OrionFyre: where do you plan on backing it up to? | 01:28 |
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| fsckr | system settings | 01:28 |
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| OrionFyre | flaccid: i want ot back up my drive before i install kubuntu | 01:28 |
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| fsckr | then the advanced tab | 01:28 |
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| OrionFyre | i have a USB drive | 01:28 |
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| flaccid | !backup | OrionFyre | 01:29 |
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| ubotu | OrionFyre: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning | 01:29 |
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| DarkJimmy | thanks, fsckr | 01:29 |
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| fsckr | yw | 01:29 |
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| flaccid | fsckr: you don't need to install the optional package to get it in the system settings? | 01:29 |
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| fsckr | no | 01:29 |
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| fsckr | you just have to enable it via system settings then reboot | 01:29 |
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| flaccid | that doesn't make sense are they the same program. is this a duplication ? | 01:29 |
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| veraxus | I am trying to get the desktop cube in kbuntu...can someone help me? | 01:29 |
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| fsckr | you can't just restart x either | 01:29 |
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| fsckr | same thing | 01:30 |
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| DarkJimmy | now I just check the components? | 01:30 |
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| fsckr | works for me all the time | 01:30 |
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| fsckr | DarkJimmy, it should tell you to restart after you enable it | 01:30 |
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| veraxus | I am up to having the "Advanced Desktop Effects" in my menu and I have desktop cube checked but it doesn't seem to be working. | 01:30 |
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| flaccid | then they have duplicated in the distro, not a good thing | 01:30 |
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| flaccid | unless the restricted-manager-kde is just a wrapper for a kcmshell call.. | 01:30 |
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| OilR0ck | OrionFyre: you could use the 'dd' command, do a search on its usage. Your better off just backing up your docs and stuff, and reinstalling windows if you want to go back | 01:31 |
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| veraxus | wants a reboot, brb. | 01:31 |
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| flaccid | veraxus: #ubuntu-effects | 01:31 |
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| veraxus | Thanks. :) | 01:31 |
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| DarkJimmy | I get an error after enabling the driver.. | 01:31 |
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| DarkJimmy | nvidia-glx is not enabled | 01:31 |
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| OrionFyre | flaccid: your help is much appreciated, thank you kindly. | 01:31 |
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| OrionFyre | thank OilRock | 01:31 |
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| flaccid | np | 01:31 |
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| flaccid | after you enable the driver it requires a reboot | 01:31 |
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| DarkJimmy | reboot's on its way | 01:32 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: im not sure if this helps at all either http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 or http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ignore+md5sum+mismatch+apt&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | 01:33 |
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| drbobb | thanks, the workaround is working for me | 01:33 |
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| flaccid | cool. we can blame adobe on this right? :) | 01:33 |
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| flaccid | i mean it would help if they realised that people on linux want to use their product lol | 01:34 |
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| drbobb | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3162 | 01:34 |
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| OilR0ck | i totally blame adobe | 01:34 |
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| drbobb | they have made progress though | 01:34 |
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| DarkJimmy | flaccid: rebooted, drivers are still not in use | 01:34 |
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| drbobb | they seem to care about linux users | 01:34 |
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| tim | What driver i download for geforce fx5700le driver ?? | 01:35 |
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| OilR0ck | they do? | 01:35 |
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| ardchoille | !nvidia | tim | 01:35 |
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| ubotu | tim: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 01:35 |
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| drbobb | but only as long as they use 32 bit mozilla / firefox | 01:35 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and we see what they did. also dpkg -l | grep nvidia | 01:35 |
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| Downix | drbobb: on x86 | 01:35 |
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| Downix | drbobb: leaving us SPARC folk in the lurch.... | 01:35 |
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| flaccid | drbobb: yeah but they don't give a shiz about us bsd users... :( | 01:35 |
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| drbobb | amd64? konqueror? opera? sparc? --> out of luck | 01:35 |
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| DarkJimmy | flaccid: totally confused just there | 01:36 |
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| flaccid | freebsd user totally out of luck | 01:36 |
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| tim | How do i install package NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run ? | 01:36 |
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| flaccid | !pastebin | DarkJimmy | 01:36 |
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| ubotu | DarkJimmy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 01:36 |
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| Downix | GIVE ME OPEN SOURCED CPU'S OR GIVE ME.... ooo pie! 8) | 01:36 |
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| flaccid | tim: if you really want to do that then you should do a chmod +x ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run; ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run | 01:36 |
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| flaccid | pie please | 01:36 |
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| drbobb | well too bad 99% or so of embedded video content on webpages is currently flash video | 01:38 |
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| drbobb | but at least it's not drm'ed wmv | 01:39 |
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| hdevalence | drbobb: what is keeping them from releasing for amd64? | 01:39 |
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| flaccid | yeah that doesn't really mean much. its not a standard so yeah.... most people use IE and windows so hehe yeah | 01:39 |
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| drbobb | dunno, ask them | 01:39 |
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| tehm0nk | !nforce | 01:40 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about nforce - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 01:40 |
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| tehm0nk | !nvidia | 01:40 |
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| ubotu | To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 01:40 |
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| hdevalence | drbobb: is it really that much effort to recompile? | 01:40 |
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| flaccid | probably skills and care | 01:40 |
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| drbobb | loads of people have asked i'm sure | 01:40 |
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| drbobb | hdevalence: how would i know | 01:40 |
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| drbobb | but it's usually much more than a matter of recompiling | 01:40 |
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| teinituhero | why does kubuntu crash 24/7 and ubuntu doesn't | 01:40 |
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| cstratto | #porn | 01:41 |
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| drbobb | (assuming the software is not very well written) | 01:41 |
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| cstratto | exit | 01:41 |
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| flaccid | teinituhero: it drinks a lot more | 01:41 |
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| teinituhero | .... | 01:41 |
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| teinituhero | wow | 01:41 |
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| drbobb | teinituhero: the kubuntu box in my office runs 24/7 | 01:41 |
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| flaccid | i mean if it was crashing for everyone, we would'nt be using it would we | 01:41 |
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| drbobb | i don't think it has crashed more than once in the past year | 01:41 |
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| flaccid | i certainly wouldn't be using it if it crashed more than gnome lol | 01:42 |
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| drbobb | btw that was a pretty weird crash and i have no idea why it happens | 01:42 |
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| DarkJimmy | flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49237/ | 01:43 |
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| teinituhero | well i've been running ubuntu on my pc and now i installed kubuntu on my sister's pc just to test it and well...i'd definately go with ubuntu with gnome | 01:43 |
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| drbobb | teinituhero: so do that if it suits you | 01:43 |
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| drbobb | i don't think anyone will mind | 01:43 |
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| kub^ | whatever floats yer boat teinituhero | 01:43 |
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| flaccid | choice is um choice :) | 01:43 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: that looks fine to me. i would probably uncomment the refresh rates if you still have a problem and if you still have a problem maybe the monitor is the issue or something, hard to work out. you could check the log /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues | 01:45 |
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| drbobb | (cool youtube works again, ;-) | 01:45 |
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| flaccid | sweet. i have to wait till 24th to be unshaped to watch youtube dang | 01:45 |
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| teinituhero | have u watched 2girls1cup :D | 01:45 |
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| flaccid | negative but sounds interesting | 01:46 |
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| teinituhero | hahaha 2girls1cup.com | 01:46 |
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| teinituhero | enjoy :D | 01:46 |
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| DarkJimmy | flaccid: thanks for your help | 01:47 |
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| flaccid | np | 01:48 |
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| drbobb | ok, c.u. | 01:48 |
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| flaccid | cia0 | 01:48 |
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| uoaphys | hey guys | 01:50 |
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| uoaphys | anyone having DHCP problems in clean installs of kubuntu 7.10? | 01:51 |
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| uoaphys | knetworkmanager reports no network after i manually ifup ifdown my eth0 interface | 01:51 |
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| uoaphys | and thats the only way that the network works | 01:51 |
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| uoaphys | by default, the check box for "activate on startup" was disabled, and DHCP mode was not selected.. that seems like a weird default setting as well | 01:52 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces | 01:52 |
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| uoaphys | oh man I don't have the system with me.. I'll come back when I get back to that computer | 01:54 |
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| uoaphys | it had eth0 and lo were the only 2 i saw tho | 01:54 |
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| uoaphys | i just found out about this channel | 01:54 |
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| flaccid | well generally knetworkmanager only likes localhost in the interfaces file so it can do wired or wireless via user in knetworkmanager | 01:55 |
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| flaccid | so thats what i would do first | 01:55 |
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| flaccid | i only have 3 stanzas in mine which are for localhost. nothing else. | 01:55 |
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| tehm0nk | Is anyone good with nforce drivers? | 01:55 |
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| uoaphys | right on | 01:55 |
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| tehm0nk | specifically for sound...? | 01:56 |
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| uoaphys | flaccid: is it worth reporting the problems to the kubuntu bug racker? i thought it was rather silly that a supported system did not dhcp by default | 01:56 |
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| tehm0nk | i'm getting burnt on this linux stuff .... all i do is try to fix it | 01:56 |
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| uoaphys | shouldn't need network configuration unless dhcp is not used | 01:56 |
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| tehm0nk | and i fix one thing then the next goes | 01:56 |
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| uoaphys | tehm0nk: yea man, thats what i run into | 01:57 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: we have not identified any problems yet...you need a POC for that | 01:58 |
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| uoaphys | what is a POC? | 01:58 |
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| tim | What was the beta channel ubuntu-1?? | 01:58 |
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| flaccid | proof of concept | 01:58 |
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| flaccid | tim: as i said before #ubuntu+1 | 01:58 |
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| uoaphys | POC just for DHCP to be enabled by deafult? on the GNOME version of ubuntu dhcp works on first bootup no configuration | 01:59 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: you have not even looked at logs. the problem could still be the user at this point. we have not pinpointed anything yet you are just guessing | 02:00 |
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| uoaphys | I'm glad I know about this chan tho so i can come back in here when im in front of the system | 02:00 |
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| uoaphys | i spent all day on forums before and didn't get anywhere | 02:00 |
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| flaccid | the problem could be the dhcp server and then we would be wasting the devs time in launchpad | 02:00 |
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| uoaphys | I see ok sounds good man | 02:01 |
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| flaccid | there are some pretty savvy people here | 02:01 |
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| hamadooo | hey | 02:01 |
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| david_ | very interesting. I fixed my problem with kmenu flaccid just to show you I was trolling. | 02:01 |
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| david_ | sorry I mean wasn't trolling | 02:01 |
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| flaccid | david_: what was the problem? | 02:01 |
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| hamadooo | my laptop fans woek all the time .. how can i control them | 02:01 |
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| hamadooo | work* | 02:02 |
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| gonzalo | i have problems installing my sound card drivers | 02:02 |
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| david_ | It was my fault thought didn't think. I made a change in kmenuedit with sudo and it changed permissions | 02:02 |
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| david_ | on .local/share/applications. | 02:02 |
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| david_ | in my home which is kinda wierd. | 02:03 |
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| flaccid | david_: yeah as we advised from the *start* you do not run kmenuedit under sudo, its for the current user :) | 02:03 |
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| david_ | but at least I know what happend. | 02:03 |
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| flaccid | yep sweet :) | 02:03 |
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| david_ | Yes but by that time the damage was done | 02:03 |
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| flaccid | which is why i advised the chown to fix it at the start as well :) | 02:03 |
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| david_ | I think it only would happen the first time. | 02:03 |
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| david_ | yes but wrong dir. | 02:03 |
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| david_ | ;) | 02:04 |
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| flaccid | no correct dir | 02:04 |
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| flaccid | how was it wrong? | 02:04 |
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| david_ | no | 02:04 |
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| david_ | ~/.local/share/application. | 02:04 |
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| david_ | no ~/.kde | 02:04 |
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| david_ | not | 02:04 |
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| flaccid | oh the generic menu | 02:04 |
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| david_ | but anyway thanks for the help | 02:04 |
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| flaccid | that as well... | 02:04 |
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| david_ | ;) | 02:04 |
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| david_ | no he says. | 02:04 |
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| david_ | now | 02:04 |
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| flaccid | my bad on that i didn't know why yo used sudo to begin with | 02:04 |
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| * tehm0nk dies. | 02:05 |
| flaccid | hey its not our fault if you use sudo for no reason | 02:05 |
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| OilR0ck | yeah you advised .kde, and i advised .config . Anyway, knew it was a permission problem | 02:05 |
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| david_ | I wanted to make global menu changes | 02:05 |
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| david_ | but doesn't work like that. | 02:05 |
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| OilR0ck | game time, go oilers | 02:05 |
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| flaccid | well david_ it all depends on what you stuff up with sudo my friend | 02:05 |
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| flaccid | OilR0ck: yeah both were advised by us :) | 02:06 |
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| david_ | I thought so as well but it was driving me nuts. I only found it by ctl-alt-f6 and renaming my home dir and creating another. | 02:06 |
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| david_ | ;) go on have a good laugh at my expense! ;) | 02:06 |
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| flaccid | well not really | 02:06 |
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| david_ | That's also how you learn as well. | 02:06 |
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| flaccid | im not like that | 02:06 |
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| limac | what's you guys' views on intel vs amd processors? | 02:06 |
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| david_ | I've actually been using linux off and on for over 15 years. | 02:07 |
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| david_ | started with Red Hat 4.0 | 02:07 |
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| === paulj1 is now known as pauljw_ |
| uoaphys | flaccid: do you know of a package/configurator/wizard for kubuntu or ubuntu that lets you configure people to login using ldap or windows domains? | 02:07 |
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| uoaphys | so users on the domain can login to the system just like they do with windows | 02:07 |
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| limac | intel vs amd? | 02:07 |
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| david_ | Microsoft doesn't like amd limac but I not so with linux | 02:07 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: nothing off the shelf. i do that stuff manually as its a sysadmin's job. | 02:08 |
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| flaccid | creating a domain controller in mixed environment is not simple job | 02:08 |
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| flaccid | you can google that uoaphys im sure | 02:09 |
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| uoaphys | yea | 02:09 |
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| gbolahan | :) | 02:09 |
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| flaccid | like you can hook it up to samba which acts as a domain controller and also can integrate into ldap | 02:09 |
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| david_ | did drbobb get his flash fixed? | 02:09 |
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| flaccid | there is lots on google and even the ubuntu wiki and forums on this | 02:10 |
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| flaccid | david_: yeah | 02:10 |
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| david_ | good I'm off to bed. It's 3am where I live. | 02:10 |
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| david_ | cyall | 02:10 |
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| uoaphys | flaccid: we have a domain here at my uni and we all join our personal systems to the domain so we can use our domain ID's to login to our systems, just wondered if that were easy to do on a linux machine | 02:10 |
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| uoaphys | in windows you just tell it which domain to join and click reboot and it auto-joins | 02:11 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: yeah its easy to do, but i don't have time to walk you through it. there does seem to be some decent articles out there if you search | 02:11 |
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| flaccid | !find ebox | 02:12 |
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| ubotu | Found: ebox, ebox-all, ebox-ca, ebox-firewall, ebox-network (and 7 others) | 02:12 |
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| flaccid | !info ebox | 02:12 |
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| ubotu | ebox: eBox - Base framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-0ubuntu9 (gutsy), package size 127 kB, installed size 1220 kB | 02:12 |
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| uoaphys | flaccid: right on man, thx | 02:12 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: np. the links here might help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-322608.html | 02:13 |
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| uoaphys | flaccid: is it supported using KDM login screen? | 02:13 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: a search like this: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+authenticate+against+windows+server&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 | 02:13 |
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| flaccid | uoaphys: yeah you can use any login manager iirc, well at least kdm and gdm | 02:13 |
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| === pauljw_ is now known as pauljw |
| tehm0nk | ok this is driving me Crazy | 02:15 |
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| tehm0nk | the sound worked on the live CD now it Doesn't | 02:15 |
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| tehm0nk | Someone please help me figure this out? | 02:16 |
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| flaccid | hmm wish i could tehm0nk, not my forte :( | 02:16 |
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| tehm0nk | it's drivers tho :( | 02:16 |
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| tehm0nk | i mean | 02:16 |
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| tehm0nk | where would settings for sound card drivers be? | 02:16 |
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| tehm0nk | like where it says hey this is there and this is there... | 02:16 |
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| tehm0nk | i mean the xorg.conf file doesn't have stuff like that and i can't find anything on adept, and yeah right if i'm gonna try to compile drivers | 02:17 |
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| tehm0nk | and kill everything | 02:17 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 02:17 |
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| flaccid | well things were simple in the days of OSS and then ALSA and ARTS came along and stuffed it all up. on systems like freebsd you just load the kernel mod and be done with it. linux has poor sound doco etc. | 02:18 |
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| tehm0nk | well | 02:18 |
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| flaccid | so is your driver a kernel mod? | 02:18 |
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| tehm0nk | Probably or something but the deal is it WORKED on the live cd | 02:19 |
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| tehm0nk | why didn't it just throw those same settings agh | 02:19 |
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| flaccid | yeah not sure | 02:19 |
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| flaccid | tried killing or restart artsd ? | 02:19 |
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| tehm0nk | artsd? | 02:19 |
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| flaccid | also what does aplay -l return ? | 02:19 |
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| tehm0nk | and i mean i've rebooted... and all kinds of stuff for days | 02:20 |
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| flaccid | yeah like killall artsd or check in ps aux | grep arts | 02:20 |
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| flaccid | anyway what does aplay -l return | 02:20 |
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| tehm0nk | thats interesting | 02:21 |
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| tehm0nk | !paste | 02:22 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 02:22 |
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| tehm0nk | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49240/ | 02:22 |
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| tehm0nk | ok so it sees it now why isn't it using it right? | 02:22 |
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| flaccid | ok what does aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Side_Left.wav return and does it play the file ? | 02:23 |
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| tehm0nk | Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Side_Left.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono | 02:24 |
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| tehm0nk | and no sound | 02:24 |
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| tehm0nk | yes everything is plugged in. | 02:24 |
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| flaccid | ok check alsamixer and make sure the channels are turned up and not muted | 02:24 |
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| flaccid | tehm0nk: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=385257 and http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=AD198x+Analog+ubuntu&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 <-- could be of help | 02:25 |
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| neville | This is probably the wrong place to ask, but is it possible to have kooldock sitting at the bottom constantly, without it disappearing? | 02:25 |
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| neville | Oh, nevermind | 02:26 |
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| neville | Found it | 02:26 |
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| tehm0nk | There we go lol | 02:26 |
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| flaccid | tehm0nk: is this gutsy? | 02:26 |
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| flaccid | you fix? | 02:26 |
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| tehm0nk | i think it is gutsy | 02:26 |
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| flaccid | or you talking bout neville? | 02:26 |
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| Minataku | flaccid: ALSA is wonderful. | 02:27 |
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| Minataku | It also provides OSS emulation. | 02:27 |
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| Minataku | It's the abstractions that suck | 02:27 |
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| flaccid | Minataku: it also is linux centric only | 02:27 |
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| gonzalo | i have troubles installing my sound card drivers | 02:27 |
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| flaccid | im a freebsd user... | 02:27 |
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| gonzalo | i got a copy off the error | 02:27 |
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| Minataku | Well of course, but as I said, it provides an emulation layer for OSS | 02:27 |
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| flaccid | maybe alsa could make some decent doco so people can use it or troubleshoot | 02:27 |
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| Minataku | So if you develop across platforms, just use OSS instead | 02:28 |
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| flaccid | Minataku: yeah i know what it provides. im an OSS guy, there is no reason for alsa even though they will argue it was started because of licensing restrictions.. | 02:28 |
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| flaccid | yeah exactly .. | 02:28 |
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| Minataku | I've never had a problem with it | 02:29 |
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| flaccid | so that means no other users would ever have a problem right ? | 02:29 |
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| Minataku | Don't put words in my mouth | 02:29 |
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| flaccid | well those statements are not great to hear | 02:29 |
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| daniele | #anime | 02:30 |
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| Minataku | There's an anime channel here? | 02:30 |
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| flaccid | and yeah i always have locks on the card with alsa kind of defeats the point | 02:30 |
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| daniele | just trying........................................... | 02:31 |
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| Minataku | lol | 02:31 |
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| Minataku | Actually, I'd like to know, now | 02:31 |
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| Minataku | XD | 02:31 |
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| Minataku | It may be a fun place to visit | 02:31 |
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| Minataku | :D | 02:31 |
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| alaskan | Greets, everyone... | 02:33 |
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| tim | hi | 02:34 |
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| alaskan | Anyone have any experience fixing wireless issues with an Intel chipset? It completely stopped working with the latest kernel upgrade. I already tried downgrading the kernel, no joy. | 02:34 |
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| flaccid | alaskan: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please | 02:34 |
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| tim | Can u pgrade kernel in Ubuntu 7.08 ?? | 02:35 |
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| flaccid | brb | 02:35 |
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| alaskan | http://www.pastebin.ca/827905 | 02:36 |
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| stdin | tim: 7.08? | 02:36 |
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| tim | u mean the latest stable one | 02:37 |
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| stdin | then 7.10 | 02:38 |
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| tim | yeah | 02:38 |
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| tim | how do u upgrade kernel in it? | 02:38 |
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| stdin | just keep updated with adept to get all the updates available | 02:38 |
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| alaskan | It upgrades with everything else automatically. | 02:38 |
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| tim | what version does it give u? | 02:38 |
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| alaskan | 2.6.22-14.47 | 02:39 |
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| tim | after u update? | 02:39 |
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| stdin | 2.6.22-14-generic | 02:39 |
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| tim | how do u upgrade to 2.6.24 ? | 02:39 |
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| uoaphys | i read to uninstall adept and install synaptic, even if using kubuntu | 02:39 |
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| tim | why? | 02:39 |
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| stdin | uoaphys: don't be silly | 02:39 |
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| tim | or why can't u keeo both of em? | 02:39 |
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| alaskan | stdin: ? | 02:39 |
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| alaskan | Synaptic >> Adept | 02:39 |
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| stdin | tim: 2.6.24 isn't in 7.10, it will be in 8.04 | 02:39 |
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| stdin | alaskan: in _your_ opinion | 02:40 |
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| tim | No way u can make it ibn 7.10 ? | 02:40 |
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| maybeway36 | Adept is ok | 02:40 |
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| maybeway36 | but I like aptitude (i'm geeky) | 02:40 |
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| alaskan | stdin: In everyone's opinion that I've talked to about it. :-) | 02:40 |
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| === serge is now known as sea4ever |
| stdin | alaskan: and that means that you "need to uninstall adept and install synaptic"? | 02:41 |
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| maybeway36 | i actually prefer adept over synaptic | 02:41 |
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| alaskan | Who said anything about *needing* to? | 02:41 |
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| maybeway36 | dont ask me why | 02:41 |
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| stdin | tim: you could add the deb-src line from hardy to your sources.list, then "sudo apt-get -b source linux-source-2.6.24" | 02:41 |
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| alaskan | uoaphys: Install Synaptic and see how you like it. If you prefer it over Adept, get rid of Adept. | 02:41 |
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| tim | but is it safe??? | 02:42 |
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| maybeway36 | ditto alaskan | 02:42 |
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| stdin | tim: it will make some .debs, so you can always remove the packages if it doesn't work | 02:42 |
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| tim | but usually is it safe? | 02:43 |
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| Minataku | Depending on what OS I'm using, I prefer either Portage or pkg_add | 02:43 |
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| Minataku | But I use Gentoo and NetBSD | 02:43 |
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| Minataku | lol | 02:43 |
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| tim | in ubuntu | 02:43 |
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| stdin | tim: safe enough, it won't remove the kernel you have now just add another entry to the grub list | 02:43 |
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| Tomi-idle | meh, anyone else noticing the kubuntu kde4 rc packages are not quite there? | 02:44 |
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| tim | will new kernel be faster ?? | 02:44 |
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| stdin | Tomi-idle: describe "aren't quite there" | 02:44 |
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| Tomi-idle | tim: depends on a lot of things, maybe :D | 02:44 |
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| stdin | tim: maybe, you can't tell unless you try | 02:44 |
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| tim | hmm..... | 02:44 |
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| Tomi-idle | stdin: the packages seem to get the configs sorted in a shape no human could possibly fix | 02:45 |
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| Tomi-idle | stdin: a bit overexaggerated | 02:45 |
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| flaccid | alaskan: remove everything below netmask 255.0.0.0 then do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart then restart knetworkmanager then you should be right | 02:45 |
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| maybeway36 | i'll go get a dog | 02:45 |
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| stdin | Tomi-idle: what do you mean exactly? | 02:45 |
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| alaskan | flaccid: I think I already tried that, but I'll give it another shot. BRB | 02:47 |
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| Tomi-idle | stdin: the way the plasma desktop handles isn't really a pleasure, nothing gets docked on the dock-widget, when rotating/scaling widgets everything loses their coordinates on desktops space | 02:47 |
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| alaskan | flaccid: And you mean "comment out", not "remove", right? :-P | 02:47 |
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| stdin | Tomi-idle: that's nothing to do with the packages, that upstream | 02:48 |
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| Tomi-idle | stdin: and a few really weird problems.. i'll try it on 32bit when 8.04 is released and see if things are improved. :) | 02:48 |
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| flaccid | alaskan: i would remove myself as the implementation is to let users control network ad hoc | 02:48 |
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| Tomi-idle | stdin: what's the latest on whether to have LTS or kde4? | 02:49 |
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| stdin | Tomi-idle: there will be no kubuntu LTS | 02:49 |
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| flaccid | Tomi-idle: http://blog.nixternal.com/2007.12.20/kubuntu-804-featuring-kde-4/ | 02:50 |
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| tim | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=945&num=1 | 02:50 |
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| flaccid | lts was a load of &&^* in the first place heh | 02:50 |
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| tehm0nk | lol installing wow to see how it'll run on linux :-x | 02:50 |
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| flaccid | its a marketing term is you ask me | 02:50 |
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| flaccid | like the ironic thing is say a corp stays on dapper for LTS, they call support find out their problem is dapper and the solution is to upgrade release/version. thats irony... | 02:52 |
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| Tomi-idle | stdin: flaccid: thx :D | 02:52 |
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| flaccid | because bugs are fixed in the next release, LTS is security related and relies on devs to fix things | 02:52 |
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| flaccid | hehe | 02:52 |
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| alaskan | flaccid: No dice, thanks anyway though | 02:53 |
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| flaccid | alaskan: are you trying wired or wireless interface? | 02:53 |
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| alaskan | http://www.pastebin.ca/827922 After that, no connection at all. | 02:53 |
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| flaccid | um yes you restart knetworkmanager and select the connection there. there will be no connection by default. | 02:53 |
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| flaccid | if you are using wired only you could see if the dhcp server responds by doing a sudo dhclient eth0 | 02:54 |
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| alaskan | agh... one sec... | 02:54 |
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| flaccid | lol 8.04 is indexed in google as LTS heh | 02:55 |
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| === dac_ is now known as _da61_ |
| alaskan_ | Brilliant. My mistake, flaccid. Thanks a lot. :-) | 02:57 |
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| alaskan_ | I'm off. Thanks again. Peace. | 02:58 |
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| flaccid | np my friend | 03:00 |
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| arrrghhh | hey all, i can't get alsamixer to save my settings... i've tried the alsactl restore on startup to no effect. every time i restart the machine (or window manager) i have to re-run alsamixer and crank the volume back up. | 03:01 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: use kmix and right click on it and assign the master channel to pcm. select the desired volume. log out then log back in to test. if kmix doesn't keep the sound level and master channel could be a perm problem | 03:03 |
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| flaccid | perms i mean | 03:03 |
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| arrrghhh | kmix? ok. | 03:04 |
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| arrrghhh | ERROR: Communication problem with kmix, it probably crashed. | 03:04 |
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| arrrghhh | i've never used kmix before... | 03:05 |
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| arrrghhh | brb, i'm gonna test something | 03:06 |
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| flaccid | sounds like something is a miss | 03:06 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: i was trying to run kmix from the terminal, that was probably the issue... but everything i've seen suggested hasn't worked for me thus far | 03:08 |
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| flaccid | well kmix should work if it doesn't something is wrong | 03:09 |
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| flaccid | its the speaker icon in the tray | 03:10 |
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| arrrghhh | yea, i got it open | 03:10 |
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| flaccid | have you assigned the master channel via right click | 03:10 |
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| arrrghhh | uh, no... but i'm not sure what to do i already have a master volume slider | 03:11 |
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| flaccid | so right click select master channel | 03:11 |
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| arrrghhh | ok | 03:11 |
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| flaccid | if you have it on master and when you reduce the master from the icon , it doesn't reduce volume then you need to assign it to pcm channel | 03:12 |
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| Zabulus | ok, need some help with getting side mouse buttons to work | 03:12 |
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| arrrghhh | Zabulus: unless there's drivers for linux for the mouse, i doubt it | 03:13 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: i'm confused, how do i assign the pcm channel as the master? | 03:13 |
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| flaccid | Zabulus: you can do that with xmodmap iirc | 03:14 |
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| flaccid | right click kmix and select master channel with kmix, arrrghhh | 03:14 |
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| arrrghhh | oh i was trying to right click in the program itself... d'oh. | 03:15 |
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| DarkJimmy | is synaptics in kubuntu 7.10? | 03:15 |
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| flaccid | Zabulus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto | 03:15 |
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| arrrghhh | ok let's see how this works | 03:15 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: no, but adept package manager is | 03:15 |
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| arrrghhh | DarkJimmy: kde uses adept | 03:15 |
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| flaccid | !find synaptics | 03:15 |
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| ubotu | Found: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev, libsynaptics0 (and 2 others) | 03:15 |
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| flaccid | !info ksynaptics | DarkJimmy | 03:15 |
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| ubotu | darkjimmy: ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 228 kB, installed size 1156 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc) | 03:15 |
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| hypernewbie | rofl | 03:15 |
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| flaccid | i guess you mean the package manager, DarkJimmy | 03:15 |
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| arrrghhh | er | 03:16 |
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| DarkJimmy | for some reason adept won't allow downloading new drivers because they are propietary.. | 03:16 |
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| arrrghhh | yea i was referring to the package manager | 03:16 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: could be blacklisted | 03:16 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: or try download these in System Settings | 03:16 |
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| DarkJimmy | :< | 03:16 |
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| arrrghhh | curious, what driver DarkJimmy? | 03:16 |
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| hypernewbie | K->system settings->advanced->restricted drivers | 03:16 |
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| DarkJimmy | hypernewbie that's where I'm trying | 03:17 |
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| DarkJimmy | arrrghhh: for nvidia geforce 4 go | 03:17 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: juse use what hypernewbie suggested and adept for packages normally | 03:17 |
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| arrrghhh | DarkJimmy: i'd recommend downloading drivers directly from nvidia and compiling from source. | 03:17 |
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| flaccid | restricted manager is all that is needed for restricted drivers such as nvidia and ati | 03:18 |
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| arrrghhh | that's how i had to do to get my nvidia card. the restricted drivers manager didn't work at all. | 03:18 |
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| arrrghhh | brb | 03:18 |
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| DarkJimmy | flaccid: doesn't work | 03:18 |
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| hypernewbie | restricted drivers manager worked for me | 03:18 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: whats wrong? does it complain when downloading? | 03:18 |
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| flaccid | what exactly does it say DarkJimmy | 03:18 |
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| DarkJimmy | when I enable the driver: The software source for the package nvidia-glx is not enabled | 03:19 |
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| flaccid | !info nvidia-glx | 03:19 |
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| ubotu | nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1:1.0.9639+2.6.22.4-14.10 (gutsy), package size 4387 kB, installed size 13352 kB | 03:19 |
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| flaccid | need to enable restricted | 03:19 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: so that was easy... sheesh. | 03:19 |
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| flaccid | goto manage repos in menu and enable | 03:19 |
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| DarkJimmy | what menu? | 03:20 |
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| flaccid | in adept_manager DarkJimmy | 03:20 |
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| flaccid | !adept | DarkJimmy | 03:20 |
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| ubotu | DarkJimmy: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto | 03:20 |
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| flaccid | um synaptic is available in gutsy, but kubuntu uses adept and it is what we support here | 03:20 |
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| arrrghhh | you can use synaptic in kubuntu... i use it because i prefer it to adept | 03:21 |
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| flaccid | its a gnome application and not part of kubuntu base. most of use are used to adept. | 03:21 |
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| flaccid | choise is great but | 03:22 |
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| flaccid | err choice | 03:22 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: true, but i personnally (and others i'm sure too) prefer it to adept. | 03:22 |
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| arrrghhh | i don't really like adept, but i use it to update the system because as you said it's what kde uses. | 03:22 |
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| flaccid | which is totally cool, a lot of us just don't know it very well | 03:22 |
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| arrrghhh | yea, true. | 03:22 |
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| flaccid | its simple, i mean people say they don't like it but never give a reason why.. | 03:22 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: u need to enable repositories, K->System->Adept Manager->Adept(menu item)->MAnage repositories->Download from the internet->tick everything but source code->close-> | 03:23 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: close adept -> go to restricted manager thing->try again | 03:23 |
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| hypernewbie | sorry | 03:23 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: i honestly don't like how it looks when you start it up... searching seems easier in synaptic... but i'm probably biased coming from xfce which has a lot of gnome apps (like synaptic) | 03:23 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: close adept->open terminal->type in apt-get update->close terminal ->restricted manager thing->download the restricted | 03:23 |
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| DarkJimmy | flaccid: what do I enable? | 03:24 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: maybe. it looks fine to me and it has a search box that works dynamically. ah well :) | 03:24 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: read ^ | 03:24 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: as per hypernewbie's advice | 03:24 |
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| DarkJimmy | restricted was already enabled | 03:24 |
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| DarkJimmy | that's the problem | 03:24 |
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| flaccid | restricted needs to be enabled. then fetch updates then search and request install on the package then apply | 03:25 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: yea, it's probably just my bias... it's what i started with, and it's familiar. | 03:25 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: i'd love it if there was qt version :) | 03:25 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: did u go sudo apt-get update? | 03:25 |
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| arrrghhh | yea | 03:25 |
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| DarkJimmy | hypernewbie: yes, but it did not update | 03:26 |
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| flaccid | why did it not update? | 03:26 |
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| arrrghhh | i didn't find any drivers for the geforce 4 go on nvidia website... that sucks. | 03:26 |
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| DarkJimmy | arrrghhh: you won't find them | 03:26 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: why did it not update? | 03:26 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: you install via restricted-manager not nvidia website | 03:26 |
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| DarkJimmy | hypernewbie: I don't know.. | 03:26 |
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| arrrghhh | why won't i find them? | 03:26 |
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| DarkJimmy | arrrghhh: well, those cards usualy ship with laptops | 03:27 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: restricted-manager wouldn't work... i HAD to compile the nvidia drivers off their website (only after closing any wm.) | 03:27 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: do the sudo apt-get update command from konsole and pastebin output | 03:27 |
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| arrrghhh | yea i know, i have a geforce 6 go. | 03:27 |
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| DarkJimmy | it's the manufacturer's job to make those drivers | 03:27 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: why did it not work | 03:27 |
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| DarkJimmy | nvidia doesn't give a crap after that so... | 03:27 |
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| DarkJimmy | no more updated drivers | 03:27 |
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| arrrghhh | DarkJimmy: be glad you don't have an ati card then... | 03:28 |
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| DarkJimmy | I hate ati | 03:28 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: it wouldn't recognize my 2nd monitor, and the screen resolution wouldn't go full. | 03:28 |
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| flaccid | im on ati and nvidia and i can usually solve all problems, but we need to see the problem to be able to identify and solve | 03:28 |
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| DarkJimmy | www.guru3d.com ftw! | 03:28 |
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| arrrghhh | but after i dled the official nvidia drivers, it worked. | 03:28 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: did you use xrandr ? | 03:28 |
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| arrrghhh | no.. never heard of it. | 03:28 |
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| flaccid | yes and the official drivers are done via restricted-manager / ubuntu repos not nvidia's site | 03:29 |
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| deadsouls | how can i have a text_field that when submitted doesn't actually submit anything, but runs a javascript function? | 03:29 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: thats what you use... | 03:29 |
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| DarkJimmy | I had to get hacked windows drivers for my gf4 go | 03:29 |
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| flaccid | deadsouls: maybe try #web | 03:29 |
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| DarkJimmy | they worked better than the digitally signed ones | 03:29 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: wow, nvidia drivers sound promising :P | 03:30 |
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| arrrghhh | well after i did a ctrl-alt-f1, stopped all window managers and ran the nvidia official installer, and restarted the window manager | 03:30 |
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| DarkJimmy | hypernewbie: I think they suck, but they are the ones that suck less that the rest.. | 03:30 |
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| flaccid | what you do is look at the log and startx manually after killing kdm. this is how you find out what the actual problem is... | 03:30 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: ati is perfectly fine until u get openGL'ed | 03:31 |
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| deadsouls | flaccid, oops wrong channel :) | 03:31 |
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| arrrghhh | it worked... recognized my 2nd monitor (at 1920x1080) and my first (at 1280x1024) and the restricted drivers manager didn't do shit... although i've never tried the restricted driver manager in kde... | 03:31 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: anyway can u paste the output of apt-get update? | 03:31 |
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| flaccid | restricted manager is not going to help you set up multiple displays... | 03:31 |
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| DarkJimmy | YES! it works!! | 03:31 |
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| * flaccid beats himself in the head | 03:31 |
| DarkJimmy | always the damn stupid defaults | 03:32 |
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| DarkJimmy | .. | 03:32 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: i didn't expect it to... i just wanted it to let me configure it. the only time it worked is when i did the official installer, trust me. it took for freakin ever to get that damned video card to work in linux. it was almost a deal-breaker. | 03:32 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: it worked? | 03:33 |
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| flaccid | there is zero configuration with restricted manager. still you have no idea why it wasn't working because you didn't check logs. | 03:33 |
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| DarkJimmy | hypernewbie: let me boot it up | 03:33 |
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| flaccid | anybody got a new problem | 03:33 |
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| DarkJimmy | a whole pile | 03:33 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: huh? | 03:34 |
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| DarkJimmy | well, next up is grub | 03:34 |
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| DarkJimmy | don't even know where to start | 03:34 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: what do you mean? | 03:34 |
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| DarkJimmy | well forget about grub | 03:35 |
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| DarkJimmy | new and more important problem | 03:35 |
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| hypernewbie | :S | 03:35 |
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| DarkJimmy | i can't see anything | 03:35 |
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| arrrghhh | flaccid: yea, how about a Malformed URL error | 03:35 |
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| hypernewbie | did nvidia drivers install | 03:35 |
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| dthacker | Hi any recommendations for an ogg encoder to work with kaudiocreator? | 03:35 |
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| DarkJimmy | hypernewbie: yes | 03:36 |
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| DarkJimmy | asked for a reboot | 03:36 |
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| DarkJimmy | said yes | 03:36 |
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| DarkJimmy | and.. | 03:36 |
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| hypernewbie | u rebooted and now u cant see a thing | 03:36 |
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| hypernewbie | is the hd working | 03:36 |
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| DarkJimmy | exactly | 03:36 |
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| hypernewbie | wait a while | 03:36 |
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| hypernewbie | is that a laptop by any chance | 03:37 |
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| DarkJimmy | it is | 03:37 |
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| hypernewbie | k | 03:37 |
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| hypernewbie | wait a while, see of the hd light is working | 03:37 |
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| DarkJimmy | it is | 03:37 |
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| hypernewbie | if you see your login screen, then its an easy fix from that on | 03:37 |
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| hypernewbie | if you can't see your login screen and your comp has been idle for ages, then i'm outta ideas :( | 03:38 |
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| DarkJimmy | no login screen :< | 03:38 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: yeah that one is the kde profile. #kde would help better with that. thats a pain | 03:38 |
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| hypernewbie | :( | 03:38 |
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| hypernewbie | is hd light wokring | 03:38 |
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| DarkJimmy | yeah | 03:38 |
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| hypernewbie | let it do random stuff then | 03:38 |
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| DarkJimmy | sound works too | 03:38 |
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| hypernewbie | huh | 03:38 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: goto a tty and kill kdm by sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop | 03:39 |
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| hypernewbie | sounds working? | 03:39 |
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| flaccid | then run startx manual to see what the problem is. this is if its booted but no X.. | 03:39 |
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| arrrghhh | this came outta nowhere... sometimes linux pisses me off. i didn't do anything that should've caused this, it just happened. | 03:39 |
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| hypernewbie | flaccid: thats if his tty shows | 03:39 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: i've had your problem about 5 times. i agree with you entirely | 03:39 |
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| tim | GUYS!! plz tell me how to upgrade to 2.6.24 kernel ? | 03:39 |
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| hypernewbie | arrrghhh: lol, at least ubuntu doesnt randomly show up in 320x200 16 colors anymore :P | 03:40 |
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| arrrghhh | hypernewbie: true that. just reminds me of being microshafted when stuff changes like that | 03:40 |
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| flaccid | !kernel | tim | 03:40 |
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| ubotu | tim: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages | 03:40 |
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| flaccid | you are on +1 tim, if so #ubuntu+1 | 03:41 |
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| arrrghhh | tim: that's not stable, isn't it? | 03:41 |
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| tim | My question is how to upgrade to it? | 03:41 |
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| flaccid | tim: simply via adept if its in your repos.. | 03:41 |
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| flaccid | or apt-get update | 03:41 |
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| tim | it is not I have add a line | 03:41 |
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| flaccid | i mean sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; | 03:41 |
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| tim | I have to add a line to my repos to upgrde to it | 03:41 |
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| tim | what line ? | 03:42 |
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| arrrghhh | if it's not stable, then you probably have to compile it yourself tim | 03:42 |
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| tim | sombody jsut told me that but i fogot | 03:42 |
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| flaccid | no tim, the kernel must be in your repos | 03:42 |
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| arrrghhh | am i wrong? | 03:42 |
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| flaccid | in one of the sources | 03:42 |
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| tim | it is allready compiled | 03:42 |
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| tim | i just need to install it | 03:42 |
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| tim | tell me plz how to do it | 03:42 |
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| flaccid | i already have tim | 03:42 |
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| arrrghhh | oh | 03:42 |
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| arrrghhh | use google? | 03:43 |
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| flaccid | you might wanna check the latest kernel in the repos | 03:43 |
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| biovore | how to build a kernel on ubuntu http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu | 03:43 |
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| tim | it is not | 03:43 |
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| * DarkJimmy cries in vain | 03:43 |
| flaccid | tim: you can't upgrade a kernel if its not available. we support the current version of kubuntu here | 03:43 |
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| tim | flaccid, plz tell me how do i get it? | 03:43 |
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| flaccid | tim: already have man. quit it | 03:43 |
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| alesan | what is the preferred way to set that when I click a link in konversation it must open it with firefox? | 03:44 |
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| tim | it is ok jsut tell me how do upgrade it u dont have to support it for me | 03:44 |
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| arrrghhh | tim: what's wrong with the stable kernel? | 03:44 |
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| tim | just tell me how do i get it? | 03:44 |
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| flaccid | you could download the .deb for the kernel and install manual, but i have not used ubuntu+1 | 03:44 |
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| hydrogen | tim: google kernel upgrade ubuntu | 03:44 |
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| sterilegenie | if you want the latest kernel go to kernel.org and roll your own? | 03:44 |
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| alesan | not that I don't like konqueror but I prefer to have firefox for this | 03:44 |
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| hydrogen | theres a "ubuntu way" to make your own kernel | 03:44 |
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| tim | nothing wrong jsut simply tell me what line to I add to get a newer kerenl | 03:44 |
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| flaccid | !commonsense | 03:44 |
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| ubotu | Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. | 03:44 |
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| hydrogen | tim: google it. | 03:44 |
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| tim | i tried can't find it | 03:44 |
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| biovore | ubuntu way to make a kernel -> http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu | 03:44 |
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| tim | all i need is to find what line do i get | 03:44 |
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| arrrghhh | tim: it's there... guaranteed. | 03:44 |
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| flaccid | tim: try listening to what i say | 03:44 |
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| DarkJimmy | how can I revert my graphics driver to its previous state? | 03:45 |
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| tim | it is not their | 03:45 |
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| flaccid | tim: incorrect there is no line. we don't know the repos if there is a dedicated one for the kernel.. | 03:45 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: whats wrong | 03:45 |
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| hydrogen | !kernel | 03:45 |
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| ubotu | The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages | 03:45 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: do you get a console screen at all | 03:45 |
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| tim | plz help me to find the dedicated one for it? | 03:45 |
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| hydrogen | tim: there isn't one. | 03:45 |
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| DarkJimmy | hypernewbie: yeah | 03:45 |
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| flaccid | tim: stop it. | 03:45 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: yes to console screen? | 03:45 |
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| DarkJimmy | yes | 03:45 |
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| sterilegenie | sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 03:45 |
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| DarkJimmy | stopped kdm | 03:46 |
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| biovore | tim: what are you changing from the stock kernel.. what you need thats not in it? | 03:46 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: now type startx and give us the error it spits | 03:46 |
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| DarkJimmy | started it too, and still blank | 03:46 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: oh | 03:46 |
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| arrrghhh | does anyone happen to know where system menu stores the links to those items? | 03:46 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: would a dpg-reconfigure work here guys? i'm a bit flat here | 03:46 |
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| biovore | DarkJimmy: apt-get install xterm and then run xterm and see what it complains about.. | 03:46 |
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| tim | i just wanna try it | 03:46 |
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| hydrogen | /usr/share/services is aplace to start arrrghhh | 03:46 |
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| sterilegenie | darkjimmy........... sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 03:46 |
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| tim | plz help me to find what line do I add to the repos ? | 03:47 |
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| arrrghhh | thanks hydrogen | 03:47 |
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| flaccid | um can we please see the output, no need to edit a config yet for DArkj | 03:47 |
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| arrrghhh | hypernewbie: yes, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver -phigh | 03:47 |
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| arrrghhh | i think... | 03:47 |
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| flaccid | arrrghhh: ~/.local/share/application and there is one for kde somewhere in ~/.kde | 03:47 |
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| hypernewbie | yeah but will it help... | 03:47 |
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| arrrghhh | it's been a while since i had to fiddle with my vid card. | 03:47 |
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| flaccid | why reconfigure when we don't know the problem to begin with. always find the problem first. don't assume | 03:48 |
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| hypernewbie | true | 03:48 |
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| tim | can u plz help me with it? | 03:48 |
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| tim | or no? | 03:48 |
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| hypernewbie | well, u can open xorg.conf and see if its trying to set your res to like 1600x1200 or something | 03:48 |
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| tim | and why not? | 03:48 |
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| tim | if yes plz help me | 03:48 |
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| flaccid | tim: no. we don't support the next version of ubuntu here, period. | 03:48 |
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| hydrogen | tim: asked and answered. | 03:48 |
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| hydrogen | and mixing two versions of ubuntu isn't supported *anywhere* | 03:49 |
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| flaccid | we gave all the additional info you require dtim | 03:49 |
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| tim | i am not trying to get a next verson of Ubuntu all i ask is what line do i add? | 03:49 |
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| tim | can u plz help me with that? | 03:49 |
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| hypernewbie | tim: u dont add anything | 03:49 |
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| arrrghhh | tim: it's stupid to support unstable stuff. | 03:49 |
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| sterilegenie | what do i need to install to have quicktime playback in fireefox | 03:49 |
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| hypernewbie | tim: you uncomment deb http://whatever lines | 03:49 |
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| arrrghhh | i don't see what the problem with stable. | 03:49 |
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| arrrghhh | is | 03:49 |
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| hydrogen | err | 03:49 |
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| hydrogen | I'd suggest not giving him any suggestions | 03:50 |
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| hydrogen | everything thus far | 03:50 |
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| DarkJimmy | I need to let the laptop cool of for a while.. | 03:50 |
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| tim | can u plz tell me what axact lines? | 03:50 |
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| hydrogen | is going to lead to a pretty unreliable system | 03:50 |
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| flaccid | can someone tell tim to stop or leave | 03:50 |
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| hydrogen | tim: we've already told you the "proper way" to make your own 2.6.24 kernel for gutsy | 03:50 |
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| hydrogen | thats the only smart thing you can do | 03:50 |
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| flaccid | hes not on gutsy.. | 03:50 |
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| hydrogen | and even thats of questionable merit | 03:50 |
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| hydrogen | yes he is | 03:51 |
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| hydrogen | he wants 2.6.24 for "stable kubuntu" | 03:51 |
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| tim | It is all ready made. all i need to do is to find it and download it | 03:51 |
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| flaccid | is he well thats even worse | 03:51 |
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| hydrogen | which is gutsy | 03:51 |
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| flaccid | my gutsy is | 03:51 |
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| tim | just plz help me to find it | 03:51 |
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| hydrogen | tim: no, you need to make it. there is no 2.6.24 kernel for gutsy | 03:51 |
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| flaccid | 2.6.22-14-generic | 03:51 |
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| tim | yes there is | 03:51 |
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| tim | just need to find it | 03:51 |
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| flaccid | tim: then where is it? | 03:51 |
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| biovore | tim: make modules install? | 03:51 |
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| flaccid | hahahah there isn't its not in the repos | 03:51 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: yeah, it could be nvidia drivers completely owned up ur x server, it could be just something much mroe trivial | 03:51 |
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| biovore | but your kernel needs initrd probably.. | 03:51 |
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| hypernewbie | DarkJimmy: like it trying to go to a resolution ur monitor doesnt have | 03:52 |
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| * hydrogen has a 2.6.23 for gutsy but its been customized for his system | 03:52 |
| tim | it is not int he repos but u can add it | 03:52 |
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| flaccid | !info linux-generic | 03:52 |
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| ubotu | linux-generic: Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.22.14.21 (gutsy), package size 24 kB, installed size 52 kB | 03:52 |
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| sterilegenie | tim why dont you look for it with the whereis command | 03:52 |
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| flaccid | see tim.. | 03:52 |
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| arrrghhh | tim i'm on gutsy, and it's 2.6.22-14 | 03:52 |
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| biovore | yup | 03:52 |
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| tim | u can add a line to ur repos and upgrade to 2.6.24 | 03:52 |
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| tim | all u need to know is what line | 03:53 |
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| hydrogen | then do it. | 03:53 |
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| tim | thats it | 03:53 |
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| biovore | 2.6.24 dosn't exsist | 03:53 |
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| flaccid | tim: we don't suppor that. | 03:53 |
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| tim | i am not asking u to support it .. just plz tell me what line do i add | 03:53 |
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| biovore | 2.6.24 you have to build from source and install manualy | 03:53 |
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| arrrghhh | tim: we're not going to help you. google is your friend. end of story. | 03:53 |
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| biovore | its not a repo | 03:53 |
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| flaccid | so please lay the topic to rest tim | 03:53 |
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| flaccid | tim: no. do you understand that? | 03:53 |
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| hydrogen | there is no line you can add to get a 2.6.24 for gutsy | 03:53 |
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| arrrghhh | DarkJimmy: did you try that dpkg-reconfigure command? | 03:53 |
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| sterilegenie | tim linux is a bit of work stop expecting everyoone to do it for you | 03:53 |
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| hydrogen | anyways | 03:53 |
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| hydrogen | lets move on | 03:53 |
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| tim | hydrogen, yes there is one... | 03:53 |
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| arrrghhh | i had to use it a lot when i had problems with my vid card. | 03:53 |
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| hydrogen | this horse has some fairly large gashes in it | 03:54 |
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| hydrogen | and has been dead for a while | 03:54 |
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| flaccid | hehe | 03:54 |
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| hypernewbie | arrrghhh: nah, dont reconfigure, might stuff him up more | 03:54 |
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| flaccid | m00 | 03:54 |
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| DarkJimmy | ace_suares | 03:54 |
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| DarkJimmy | dammit | 03:54 |
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| DarkJimmy | ignora that :P | 03:54 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: how did you go pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log or at least looking at it | 03:54 |
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| DarkJimmy | my laptop is like an oven right now, needs to cool down a bit | 03:55 |
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| DarkJimmy | old pentium 4's are like that | 03:55 |
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| sterilegenie | TIM------- go here --->>>> http://www.kernel.org/ | 03:55 |
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| sterilegenie | theres your kernel | 03:55 |
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| hypernewbie | sounds overclocked | 03:55 |
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| DarkJimmy | not at all | 03:55 |
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| DarkJimmy | just.. old | 03:55 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: i would check to see whats going hectic, otherwise maybe tis the vid card doing the heat | 03:56 |
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| arrrghhh | yea my p4 3.06 ghz laptop from 2003 ran REAL hot. | 03:56 |
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| flaccid | then again p4 is a desktop chip in a notebook that requires a lot of cooling | 03:56 |
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| DarkJimmy | it's completely normal | 03:56 |
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| flaccid | no processes going 100% in top | 03:56 |
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| flaccid | p4 notebook = hot pot | 03:57 |
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| hypernewbie | heh, sitting here with lappy amp sempron | 03:57 |
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| hypernewbie | cool as ice :P | 03:57 |
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| hypernewbie | amd* | 03:57 |
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| flaccid | interesting. im on a pentium m 1.7 - asus w1000na n/b | 03:58 |
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| arrrghhh | it's a sempron, that's why lol | 03:58 |
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| DarkJimmy | yeah let's brag! | 03:58 |
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| flaccid | mine is probably older than yours heh | 03:58 |
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| arrrghhh | sweet. i use a 286. | 03:59 |
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| hypernewbie | yeah lets brag, i have Windows Vista muhahhahaa-no i dont | 03:59 |
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| tim | i think i found it http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ | 03:59 |
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| arrrghhh | it's a router that browses the web lol. | 03:59 |
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| tim | on google | 03:59 |
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| Zabulus | im just getting confused trying to get my side buttons working right for firefox | 03:59 |
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| arrrghhh | tim: i thought it didn't exist? | 03:59 |
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| flaccid | tim: good luck | 04:00 |
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| hypernewbie | tim: good luck then, playing russian roulette with ur installation :P | 04:00 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 04:00 |
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| tim | i gonna reboot and try it | 04:00 |
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| hydrogen | so | 04:01 |
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| hydrogen | who wants to help tim reinstall ? | 04:01 |
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| flaccid | kernel and userland go together and future kernel for an older userland probably not stable | 04:01 |
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| flaccid | hehe yeah | 04:01 |
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| hydrogen | well | 04:01 |
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| DarkJimmy | tim, http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com should have been your first try before asking here.. | 04:01 |
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| hydrogen | the userland is actually a lot separate from the kernel | 04:01 |
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| hydrogen | you can upgrade one without the other | 04:01 |
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| hydrogen | but there are a number of kernel-esque packages | 04:01 |
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| hydrogen | ubuntu breaks modules out fex | 04:01 |
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| ardchoille | !language | DarkJimmy | 04:01 |
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| ubotu | DarkJimmy: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 04:01 |
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| flaccid | yeah but changes in kernel for userland code thats specific to kernel.. | 04:02 |
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| DarkJimmy | ardchoille: that's actually an url | 04:02 |
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| flaccid | im not sure if what i said made sense but yeah | 04:02 |
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| hydrogen | most of it goes through glibc | 04:02 |
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| hydrogen | and the kernel is backwards compatabile | 04:02 |
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| hydrogen | it shouldn't be a problem | 04:02 |
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| ardchoille | DarkJimmy: But the language is not acceptable here. | 04:02 |
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| tim | i though i are more proffesional and can google it better | 04:03 |
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| DarkJimmy | understood | 04:03 |
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| flaccid | we are forgetting about bug fixes in kernel and userlands | 04:03 |
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| hydrogen | huh? | 04:03 |
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| flaccid | different if you have a reason to upgrade kernel to address something like a bug | 04:03 |
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| hydrogen | its still backwards compatabile | 04:03 |
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| hydrogen | you can upgrade your kernel and kernel modules without affecting the rest of your system | 04:04 |
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| hydrogen | obviously packages that ship with kernel modules (vm software fex) will break if you don't build the modules against the new version | 04:04 |
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| flaccid | yes but we both know in the programming world a change of variables. when things are designed backwards compatible doesn't guarantee | 04:04 |
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| hydrogen | that still doesn't change the fact | 04:04 |
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| hydrogen | that you can upgrade your kernel | 04:04 |
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| hydrogen | and your userland will not break | 04:05 |
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| flaccid | it won't break. it will run, im say its not ideal although in theory it is | 04:05 |
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| hydrogen | the only thing you might miss out on is new features in the new kernel | 04:05 |
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| hydrogen | that aid userland apps | 04:05 |
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| hydrogen | inotify fex | 04:05 |
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| flaccid | a lot can be the fault of the developers of the application in userland with their kernel specific code if any | 04:06 |
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| hydrogen | you are not making any sense | 04:06 |
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| flaccid | this happened more in the past and prior to generic kernels | 04:06 |
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| flaccid | yeah im not really, im not great at explaining. would be easier if i find an example | 04:06 |
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| hypernewbie | ironic this argument is taking place in a kubuntu irc channel of all linux places | 04:07 |
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| flaccid | not really an argument im in agreeance, just can't explain this one | 04:07 |
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| flaccid | not sure how to search on google for this one. anyway i'll let you know if i can find something | 04:08 |
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| hypernewbie | heh, tim won't be back for at least 55 mins, 10 mins to realise hes stuffed up, 45 to reinstall | 04:09 |
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| ardchoille | lol | 04:10 |
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| flaccid | yeah and in that time i will try to find something for hydrogen so i don't look like a wang | 04:10 |
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| xehnida | excuse me, what can i do to fix segmentation fault for firefox | 04:10 |
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| * hydrogen doesn't answer that | 04:11 |
| ardchoille | hehe | 04:11 |
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| flaccid | who me hydrogen? | 04:11 |
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| flaccid | anyway i bbs | 04:12 |
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| tim | ok i just installed the new kernel and booted into it | 04:13 |
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| tim | and it works fine | 04:13 |
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| flaccid | sweet as | 04:14 |
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| tim | u can find it at http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ | 04:14 |
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| tim | u still have option to choose between ur old kernel during the boot up? | 04:14 |
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| flaccid | did you recompile all your kernel dependent mods | 04:14 |
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| flaccid | yeah if you put it in grub | 04:14 |
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| tim | not i just cliked with kpackage on deb and installed it | 04:15 |
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| tim | and it was put to grub automaticl;y | 04:16 |
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| flaccid | yeah its separate | 04:16 |
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| tim | yes of course it is separate | 04:16 |
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| tim | don't feel anything different though | 04:18 |
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| arrrghhh | food time. keep it real kubuntu kids. | 04:18 |
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| flaccid | i dont' see how you would feel anything different | 04:18 |
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| tim | I told it exists ..... And u told me it does not exist ! | 04:19 |
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| flaccid | its a point release of the linux kernel | 04:19 |
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| flaccid | not within the scope of the support | 04:19 |
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| hydrogen | no one told you it didn't exist | 04:19 |
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| hydrogen | we told you there was no one line for you to add | 04:19 |
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| flaccid | of course linux kernels exist for download you gave you many links for that. the one you used is one archive | 04:19 |
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| tim | i bet there is a line if u look for it... | 04:19 |
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| tim | u can find anything on google | 04:19 |
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| flaccid | tim: you can make your own line from that URL.. | 04:19 |
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| tim | yep | 04:20 |
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| flaccid | still the question remains why you needed to upgrade the kernel | 04:20 |
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| tim | just of having nothign else to do | 04:21 |
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| flaccid | i think you mentioned something about stability before , not testing | 04:21 |
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| ganjamaniac | high | 04:27 |
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| Zabulus | can someone help me figure out how to get the side buttons on my mouse to work for going back/forward web pages in firefox? | 04:29 |
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| misslissa_ | in amarok i get an error message that there is no suitable dumax program | 04:32 |
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| misslissa_ | and no decoder | 04:32 |
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| misslissa_ | what should i do | 04:32 |
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| nixternal | Zabulus: http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix-mac/193927-faq-getting-mouse-side-buttons-work.html | 04:32 |
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| nixternal | Zabulus: that worked for one of my mice, but not another iirc | 04:32 |
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| nixternal | misslissa_: are you trying to play a stream? | 04:32 |
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| misslissa_ | radio station | 04:33 |
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| misslissa_ | is that stream? :) | 04:33 |
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| nixternal | which radio station, see if it happens to me | 04:33 |
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| nixternal | misslissa_: that would be a stream, yet :) | 04:33 |
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| nixternal | err, yes :) | 04:33 |
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| misslissa_ | DnbRadio [Drum and Bass]\ | 04:33 |
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| nixternal | I can spell, really I can | 04:33 |
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| misslissa_ | lol | 04:33 |
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| * nixternal looks | 04:33 |
| misslissa_ | kinda new | 04:33 |
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| misslissa_ | very teachable | 04:33 |
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| misslissa_ | I am a IT student 1 year into my AA for Computer Support Specialist | 04:34 |
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| nixternal | ok, it is working for me...so you are probably missing a codec | 04:34 |
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| misslissa_ | probably | 04:34 |
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| misslissa_ | I just downloaded kubuntu as a dual boot | 04:34 |
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| nixternal | misslissa_: did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras | 04:34 |
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| misslissa_ | doin updates right now maybe it will catch it | 04:34 |
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| misslissa_ | ooohhh | 04:34 |
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| misslissa_ | no yet | 04:35 |
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| nixternal | if not, try that and restart amarok, that should help you out | 04:35 |
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| misslissa_ | do you remember the apt-get command for restricted drivers possible | 04:35 |
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| nixternal | sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras | 04:35 |
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| misslissa_ | thanks you have been very helpfull | 04:35 |
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| misslissa_ | I really apprecieate you takin the time | 04:36 |
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| nixternal | no problem, glad I could help | 04:36 |
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| misslissa_ | I have thousands of questions all the time | 04:36 |
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| misslissa_ | I want to learn a little bit of this and that | 04:36 |
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| nixternal | well, as long as someone is around, we try to answer them all | 04:36 |
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| misslissa_ | AWSOME | 04:36 |
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| nixternal | and before you know it, you will be answering others :) | 04:36 |
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| nixternal | it is one big happy circle | 04:37 |
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| misslissa_ | thats my goal | 04:37 |
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| misslissa_ | career wise | 04:37 |
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| nixternal | groovy | 04:37 |
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| misslissa_ | but got to gain knowledge first | 04:37 |
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| misslissa_ | :) | 04:37 |
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| misslissa_ | right now im working on file sharing | 04:37 |
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| misslissa_ | between windows and kubuntu | 04:37 |
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| misslissa_ | I tried wine thinkin samba will work better | 04:38 |
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| nixternal | that one either works with no problems, or causes you to rip out hair | 04:38 |
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| nixternal | samba is the way to go on that one | 04:38 |
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| nixternal | once you have samba setup, you pretty much share your files/directories the same way you do in Windows | 04:38 |
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| nixternal | !samba | 04:38 |
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| ubotu | samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT | 04:38 |
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| nixternal | there you go, that should help you out as well with samba | 04:39 |
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| misslissa_ | deffinately | 04:39 |
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| misslissa_ | I cant tell you how much it means to me to finally get some answers | 04:39 |
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| misslissa_ | some of the IRC stations people are so mean | 04:39 |
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| nixternal | we can be mean too, but it is the holidays :) | 04:39 |
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| misslissa_ | they keep telling me to go some where else like im not good enough for there site | 04:39 |
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| nixternal | just kidding, only a few of us are mean | 04:39 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 04:39 |
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| misslissa_ | lol | 04:39 |
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| === gerson is now known as PrinceDhampir |
| flaccid | misslissa_: that is a bug in xine. if you keep pressing play it should eventually work as long as the codec is installed | 04:45 |
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| flaccid | as in the amarok no demux problem | 04:46 |
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| flaccid | gone heh | 04:46 |
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| flake | can anyone recommend a good somewhat cheap usb power backup | 04:49 |
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| flake | oops not usb but UPS | 04:51 |
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| flake | tripplite is namebrand | 04:51 |
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| cameron_ | hello um well this is a pretty simple question i found amsn in adept manager and i clicked request install but how do i actually get it to start installing?? | 04:55 |
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| stdin | click apply | 04:55 |
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| cameron_ | apply changes is greyed out | 04:56 |
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| stdin | then make sure you have selected "request install" on the package | 04:56 |
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| DarkJimmy | ok, got my laptop running again | 04:57 |
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| cameron_ | i did it says package amsn status not installed request install ?? | 04:57 |
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| DarkJimmy | did a sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf, it is empty | 04:57 |
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| cameron_ | well stdin wat u think? | 04:58 |
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| cameron_ | maybe im not root? | 04:58 |
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| cameron_ | how do i check if im running it as root? | 04:58 |
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| === rob1 is now known as rob |
| stdin | cameron_: it should have told you that you wern't root when you started adept | 05:00 |
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| cameron_ | i just run it threw system then adept | 05:00 |
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| stdin | did it ask for your password? | 05:01 |
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| W1ZrD | Could someone help me with: http://pastebin.com/d62010154 ? | 05:01 |
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| cameron_ | no | 05:01 |
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| cameron_ | it didnt | 05:01 |
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| cameron_ | ok um | 05:01 |
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| cameron_ | i dunno but i re ran and now its working sorry | 05:01 |
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| W1ZrD | fglrx messing about | 05:02 |
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| cameron_ | how do i get it so it only shows the app that are on the workspace i am currently in? | 05:03 |
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| stdin | W1ZrD: you need to remove fglrx-6-8-0 first | 05:03 |
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| cameron_ | ?? | 05:04 |
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| stdin | cameron_: right click kicker -> configure panel -> taskbar, 1st option | 05:04 |
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| W1ZrD | and it would be enough to simply remove it from /usr/bin, or is there something else? | 05:05 |
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| stdin | no, you need to remove it with apt or dpkg | 05:05 |
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| cameron_ | thx | 05:05 |
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| W1ZrD | oh.. | 05:05 |
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| W1ZrD | that I have forgotten since long how to do :) | 05:06 |
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| stdin | "sudo apt-get remove fglrx-6-8-0" or "dpkg --remove fglrx-6-8-0" | 05:06 |
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| W1ZrD | lol | 05:06 |
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| stdin | erm, with "sudo" before "dpkg" | 05:06 |
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| W1ZrD | yea | 05:06 |
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| W1ZrD | thanks, I'll give it a go | 05:06 |
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| W1ZrD | does it matter that I did depmod -a before? | 05:07 |
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| W1ZrD | (during the installation that failed) | 05:07 |
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| stdin | shouldn't matter | 05:08 |
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| DarkJimmy | how can I go back on a driver change? | 05:08 |
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| W1ZrD | should I purge after remove, or just leave it? | 05:10 |
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| stdin | W1ZrD: no need to purge | 05:11 |
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| Zabulus | ok, still need help with extra mouse buttons, for some reason it seeing the button that should be up the same as the right button | 05:12 |
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| Zabulus | similar problem with what should be the page back, its acting the same as scrollwheel button | 05:13 |
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| biovore | Zabulus: what mouse you have? | 05:14 |
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| flaccid | DarkJimmy: its case sensitive /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 05:15 |
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| Zabulus | logitech mx400 | 05:15 |
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| biovore | in your xorg.conf in the mouse section... | 05:16 |
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| biovore | Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" | 05:16 |
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| Zabulus | did that | 05:16 |
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| biovore | Option "Buttons" "7" | 05:16 |
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| biovore | Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" | 05:16 |
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| biovore | Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 6 7 8" | 05:17 |
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| biovore | Option "Emulate3Buttons" "false" <-- may or maynot want that one.. | 05:17 |
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| K`zan | Hi Folks, got a problem with nfs mounts not mounting at boot, but can mount them manually with no problem. Anyone see anything wrong with these fstab entries: | 05:17 |
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| K`zan | NimitzIP:/home/vw/ /home/vw/zvsh nfs defaults 0 0 | 05:17 |
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| K`zan | NimitzIP:/nettmp /nettmp nfs defaults 0 0 | 05:17 |
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| Zabulus | dont bother trying to get the tilt buttons to work? | 05:17 |
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| spawn57 | K'zan, lemme check my fstab, one sec | 05:18 |
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| K`zan | Thanks! | 05:18 |
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| K`zan | spawn57: Thanks | 05:18 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as Tokmol |
| spawn57 | I didn't use defaults, I used #kishore:/home/share /media/share nfs rw,mountvers=3,nfsvers=3,hard,intr 0 0 | 05:19 |
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| K`zan | spawn57: THanks, will give that a go and see what happens. FWIW, those worked fine in gentoo and fedora ?!? | 05:21 |
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| spawn57 | i used ubuntu and debian here.. | 05:21 |
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| spawn57 | didja check dmesg for errors? | 05:21 |
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| K`zan | spawn57: I am getting smarter :-). | 05:21 |
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| spawn57 | you and me both brutha lol | 05:22 |
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| K`zan | spawn57: Err, duhh, no I didn't <blush> too busy running around in circles ATM :-(. | 05:22 |
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| Zabulus | changing from 9 to 7 didnt work | 05:22 |
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| K`zan | Still not sure about ubuntu, but deb stuff is kind of ancient for some things :-/. | 05:22 |
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| nixternal | ey? how is it ancient? it is well aged, like a great wine :) | 05:23 |
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| Zabulus | its aging like milk | 05:24 |
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| K`zan | nixternal: No arguments there, just some apps are a bit creaky for my needs :) | 05:24 |
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| Zabulus | sorry, was just watching jeff dunham | 05:24 |
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| K`zan | Decided to try fedora, over that in reasonably short order :-). | 05:24 |
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| nixternal | ok, the packages are a bit creaky or the package managers are? | 05:24 |
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| K`zan | Last ubuntu I tried had LOTS of USB problems here, but this version doesn't have those. | 05:25 |
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| nixternal | because rpm is not better than deb by a long shot | 05:25 |
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| spawn57 | yeah? | 05:25 |
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| nixternal | well that isn't a .deb issue, that is your fault :p | 05:25 |
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| K`zan | nixternal: No arguments about rpms, rech :-) | 05:25 |
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| nixternal | hehe | 05:25 |
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| DarkJimmy | flaccid: ok, got it | 05:25 |
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| spawn57 | K`zan: I didn't have many problems at all | 05:25 |
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| K`zan | nixternal: Possibly, I guess there are more current respositories, I was just leary of mixing and matching. | 05:26 |
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| DarkJimmy | mode is at 1024x768 | 05:26 |
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| nixternal | ya, I don't blame you there | 05:26 |
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| K`zan | I sure did, I think it has to do with this not quite so common motherboard. | 05:26 |
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| K`zan | I was quite pleased that the n800 is running a version of deb :-)! | 05:26 |
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| DarkJimmy | will dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf revert the configuration back to how it was? | 05:28 |
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| K`zan | Gonna try rebooting and see what happens, bbiaf. | 05:29 |
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| Tokmol | j ilocos | 05:29 |
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| === Tokmol is now known as damadenoche |
| flaccid | DarkJimmy: do an ls -l /etc/X11 | grep xorg.conf and see the last file you used you have to rename it to xorg.conf | 05:32 |
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| === ubiq__ is now known as lucid |
| === rob1 is now known as rob |
| DarkJimmy | it's xorg.conf already.. | 05:34 |
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| K`zan | nixternal: Nope, still not mounting and only thing out of dmesg related to nfs seems to be: | 05:36 |
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| K`zan | [ 26.648000] Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 okir@monad.swb.de). | 05:36 |
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| K`zan | [ 26.760000] NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFSv4 state recovery directory | 05:36 |
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| K`zan | [ 26.768000] NFSD: starting 90-second grace period | 05:36 |
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| nixternal | hrmm, you sure you meant me on that one :) | 05:37 |
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| K`zan | Ah, yes :-). Everything before ( all HD parts) and after those mount fine. | 05:38 |
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| K`zan | Aha! Manual mount no longer works, get: mount.nfs: mount to NFS server 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xx' failed: RPC Error: Program/version mismatch | 05:40 |
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| K`zan | Take this out: mountvers=3,nfsvers=3, and I can manually mount. Lemme reboot again and see what happens. | 05:41 |
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| Vagarock | Just so I'm absolutely sure on this: If I install KDE4 (per http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php), and have no previous KDE4 installation sitting around, there's no known case for me breaking things? | 05:43 |
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| Vagarock | I know it's supposed to install to it's separate dir and theoretically not break anything, but experience tells me it's better to ask someone who's tried. | 05:44 |
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| K`zan | Nope, sigh.... | 05:44 |
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| K`zan | Guess I'll need to put something in rc.local to do it. | 05:45 |
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| K`zan | The plot thickens, putting it in rc.local and executing it tells me it is mounted, but it doesn't show up in df. | 05:47 |
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| * K`zan puzzled. | 05:47 |
| K`zan | {~} $ /etc/rc.local | 05:48 |
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| K`zan | mount.nfs: /nettmp is already mounted or busy | 05:48 |
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| K`zan | nfs is mounted, but not the other one. WTF?!?!? | 05:48 |
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| K`zan | err, /nettmp is mounted, but not the other one. WTF?!?!? | 05:50 |
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| tehm0nk | !compiz | 05:51 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 05:51 |
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| tehm0nk | in the command window | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | metacity --replace | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | dont close that window tho... | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | then alt+f2 | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | enable window decoration | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | crap | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | alt-f2 CCDM | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | omg can't type | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | CCSM | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | then click window decoration | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | and in command put "emerald --replace" | 05:53 |
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| K`zan | nope, not mounting from rc.local either. Guess I'll just have to do it manually. | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | enable it | 05:53 |
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| K`zan | Sure would be nice if the whole boot process was logged, guess I'd need to get a hardcopy terminal to do that. | 05:54 |
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| tehm0nk | then open another alt+f2, then close your terminal | 05:54 |
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| tehm0nk | and in the alt+f2 do a "compiz --replace" | 05:54 |
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| tehm0nk | that worked for me | 05:54 |
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| K`zan | /nettmp seems to be mounted but it doesn't show up in df. I'm really confused. | 05:55 |
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| K`zan | but still had to manually mount the other... | 05:55 |
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| K`zan | Out of ideas. | 05:55 |
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| DarkJimmy | bye all, thanks for the help | 05:56 |
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| OilR0ck | Vagarock: its really not worth install kde4 yet. it tries not to break things, but sometimes a url in a kde3 app will try to open the kde4 counterpart | 05:58 |
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| OilR0ck | not really a rc release imo... and the kubuntu packages for it aren't great.. I'd suggest you try a livecd first | 05:58 |
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| K`zan | Seems that it is a ubuntu bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/45842 | 05:59 |
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| K`zan | Oh well :-). | 05:59 |
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| Vagarock | Yeah, I was considering it, but I'm out of RW-cds and hate to waste them for something I'll only use once :/ | 05:59 |
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| Vagarock | Thanks, though. | 05:59 |
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| OilR0ck | metacity.. emerald replace? this is kubuntu. it should be compiz --replace and kwin --replace only | 06:00 |
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| naknomik | Where is the KDE Control Center? | 06:00 |
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| OilR0ck | yes, compiz comes with kubuntu.. outdated bot? | 06:00 |
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| ganjamaniac | heh | 06:01 |
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| ganjamaniac | someone has tried to patch the kernel with 6pack.diff ? | 06:01 |
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| OilR0ck | naknomik: systemsettings | 06:01 |
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| ganjamaniac | i got a TNC2 on SERIAL Port | 06:01 |
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| Vagarock | naknomik: Or invoke it manually with 'kcontrol' | 06:01 |
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| OilR0ck | and get used to it, cuz kde4 has switched to systemsettings | 06:01 |
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| === felix is now known as felix_ |
| === felix_ is now known as felix__ |
| naknomik | humm... is KDE4 RC2 usable on kubuntu 7.10? | 06:02 |
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| OilR0ck | no, not really | 06:02 |
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| OilR0ck | plan on close to a year to replace your kde3 functionality | 06:03 |
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| naknomik | hummm. Is compiz available for Kubuntu? | 06:04 |
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| OilR0ck | yes | 06:04 |
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| Dr_willis_ | !compiz | 06:04 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 06:04 |
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| OilR0ck | apt-cache search compiz | 06:04 |
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| OilR0ck | or put compiz in the adept search | 06:04 |
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| naknomik | I started with Ubuntu system, then did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get to kde. I'm happy with KDE and I want to get rid of Gnome, is that possible? | 06:05 |
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| Dr_willis_ | id say keep gnome. thers a lot of nice gnome tools | 06:05 |
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| Dr_willis_ | and its a hassle removing all the bits. :) | 06:05 |
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| Dr_willis_ | Unless You are really really short o hd space. | 06:06 |
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| naknomik | But my menus are all clutterred now. | 06:06 |
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| naknomik | Dr_willis_: nah, not short of HDD, I've 300G | 06:06 |
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| felix__ | hello all. how do i fix my apt-get update , i get a error saying Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1) | 06:06 |
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| Dr_willis_ | somehoe you got apt set to use a proxy it seems. | 06:07 |
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| word | i'm trying to compile gmediaserver from source and it's saying "configure: error: libmagic library or magic_open function not found" even though i have libmagic-dev and libmagic1 installed..any ideas? | 06:07 |
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| felix__ | can i fix it... | 06:07 |
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| naknomik | I got this machine upgraded to support Vista (which I got for free!), and just for fun tried Ubuntu, now I haven't logged into Vista for a month. | 06:07 |
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| OilR0ck | why does the bot say compix isn't shipped with kubuntu when it is in the kubuntu repos for gutsy? | 06:08 |
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| OilR0ck | compiz | 06:08 |
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| word | i think its saying it isn't installed by default OilR0ck | 06:09 |
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| OilR0ck | ah | 06:09 |
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| OilR0ck | naknomik: great to hear ;) | 06:10 |
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| Bicubic | Hi. I downloaded the kubuntu 7.10 dvd today. When it boots, my screen goes all garbled. I think its an issue with the graphics card (nv geforce 6600 agp). What can I do about it? | 06:11 |
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| naknomik | I got really addicted to the compiz eyecandy in Gnome desktop, but I don't like Gnome, it's too dumbed down. I am a former FVWM user and I like power :-D | 06:12 |
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| kory | Bicubic: you try booting into safe graphics mode? | 06:12 |
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| Bicubic | how would I do that? | 06:12 |
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| Bicubic | I don't get any prompts or anything | 06:12 |
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| Dr_willis_ | You may want to try the alternative install ce. the nvidia cards should be very well supported | 06:13 |
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| Bicubic | from some googling I found this to be an issue http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72490 | 06:14 |
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| Bicubic | I'm just not sure how to follow any of those instructions as I can't get in at all | 06:14 |
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| K`zan | df | 06:14 |
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| OilR0ck | naknomik: for compiz i have this installed: compiz-core,compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main, compiz-kde, compiz-plugins, compizconfig-settings-manager,emarld, libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig, libcompizconfig0,libdecoration0,libemeraldengine0,python-compizconfig | 06:15 |
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| OilR0ck | at that point, assuming you have nvidia and aiglx, you should be able to run compiz --replace and then ccsm | 06:16 |
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| hydrogen | you don't need aiglx with nvidia | 06:16 |
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| OilR0ck | because aiglx is in the nvidia driver? | 06:17 |
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| OilR0ck | what you don't want is glx | 06:17 |
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| hydrogen | the nvidia-drivers come with their own extensions | 06:18 |
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| OilR0ck | yeah | 06:18 |
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| hydrogen | that make aiglx unnecessary | 06:18 |
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| * hydrogen just uses kwin from kde4 and is happy | 06:18 |
| hydrogen | but i'll sleep | 06:19 |
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| OilR0ck | kde4 kwin was very slow for me... and not as much eyecandy | 06:19 |
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| hydrogen | its gotten a whole lot faster | 06:19 |
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| hydrogen | and I'm more impressed with the funcionality than the eyecandy | 06:20 |
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| hydrogen | but thats just me! | 06:20 |
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| OilR0ck | i mean unix/linux is about separate programs doing their thing. why is kde reinventing the wheel here when compiz is much farther ahead | 06:20 |
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| OilR0ck | and i tried kde4 rc2 kwin | 06:20 |
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| OilR0ck | imo, they would be better server devoting that time to kde, not copy catting what compiz is doing | 06:21 |
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| zeno | how do i disable touchpad click | 06:25 |
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| Dr_willis_ | !find gsynaptics | 06:25 |
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| ubotu | Found: gsynaptics | 06:25 |
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| fignew | ksynaptics!!!! | 06:25 |
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| Dr_willis_ | !info ksynaptics | 06:25 |
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| ubotu | ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.3-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 228 kB, installed size 1156 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb armel hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc) | 06:25 |
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| Dr_willis_ | Thats one way. | 06:25 |
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| zeno | ty | 06:26 |
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| fignew | g nonesense ;) | 06:26 |
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| felix__ | any idea how to fix my apt-get | 06:26 |
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| === philip is now known as phipster |
| Dr_willis_ | felix__, if its trying to access 127.0.0.1 port 4100 - Some how you enavbled the proxy settings for it. | 06:27 |
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| Dr_willis_ | I saw some other guy that had that issue befor.. but i am not sure how he did that. | 06:27 |
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| felix__ | yes its got me stuffed... i checked the network setting , it is set to direct conection... | 06:28 |
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| Dr_willis_ | You dident install any proxys lately? | 06:29 |
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| Dr_willis_ | I would say check the kubuntu/ubuntu forums. | 06:29 |
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| felix__ | not that i know of... | 06:29 |
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| etfb | Just found a show-stopper bug in FireFTP, the Firefox extension that I use for FTP. Wondering if anyone can suggest a good FTP or SFTP GUI client in KDE? | 06:29 |
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| Dr_willis_ | I never did find that setting, or how it was getting enabled. | 06:29 |
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| surgy | how do i unpack an alchohol 120% clone in kubuntu? | 06:29 |
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| Dr_willis_ | The kde file manager can do ftp. and i think theres also a sftp kioslave | 06:30 |
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| Dr_willis_ | !find mdf | 06:30 |
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| ubotu | Found: mdf2iso | 06:30 |
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| Dr_willis_ | if its mdf you can convert it to iso. but dont expect copyprotected games to work | 06:30 |
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| etfb | Dr_willis: the KDE file manager? You mean Konqueror? | 06:30 |
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| surgy | Dr_willis_: but the image seams to be compressed into like 46 parts per image, do i have to uncompress every image? | 06:30 |
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| Dr_willis_ | surgy, whats the exact file name? a bunch of rars ? | 06:31 |
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| Dr_willis_ | etfb, dolphin may also have that feature, or ya can use mc. or any of a dozen other ftp clients. :) depends on your needs. | 06:31 |
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| fignew | Konq. does it | 06:31 |
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| surgy | Dr_willis_: the first cd is a series of "pic1.001" "pic1.002" and so on, | 06:32 |
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| surgy | the second cd is "pic2.001" etc | 06:32 |
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| Dr_willis_ | surgy, never seen/heard of alchol 120 doing it that way.. may be some funky format only they use | 06:32 |
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| Dr_willis_ | could do a 'file whatever.001' and see what file sayx it is. | 06:33 |
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| naknomik | What's the keystroke to switch between keyboard layouts? | 06:33 |
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| surgy | Dr_willis_: but dolphin is identifying them as rar archives, so it must be like pic1.001.rar right? | 06:33 |
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| Dr_willis_ | surgy, that would be my guess. | 06:34 |
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| Dr_willis_ | try unraring the first one and see if it works. | 06:34 |
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| surgy | and it has a weird file for each cd called "pic.sfv" and it has everypart listed with a number that looks like an offset to me | 06:34 |
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| etfb | Dr_willis_: I've used a few FTP clients in KDE before and hated them all. Unless Konq is considerably better than plain Firefox, it's not what I need either. I'd love something like Filezilla, but it's Windows only (the Linux port is woefully underpowered and bugridden). | 06:35 |
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| surgy | "pic1.001 b286d85d" | 06:35 |
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| naknomik | अरे काय चाल्लाय काय ते तरी सांगा मला. | 06:35 |
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| Dr_willis_ | etfb, No idea. I dont mess with ftp much any more. You may want to test out the ftp fuse tools. | 06:35 |
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| naknomik | oops wrong window. | 06:35 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | i use the linux filezilla. works perfectly 4me | 06:36 |
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| sonoftheclayr | Hey guys, I'm having some trouble loading glx. When i run 'startx' it tries to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so I think it is the double slash that is the problem. Does anybody have any solutions? | 06:36 |
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| etfb | Dr_willis_: What do you use instead of FTP? | 06:36 |
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| Dr_willis_ | naknomik, soo purty.. :) | 06:36 |
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| naknomik | What is the shortcut to change keyboard layouts. | 06:36 |
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| Dr_willis_ | etfb, i never need to ftp stuff around. I use ssh/scp to copy things from one machine to others. | 06:36 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: It's awfully clunky, though. Not a patch on the original Windows version, and I don't say something like that often. | 06:36 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | does anyone here know xrandr pretty well? | 06:37 |
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| etfb | Dr_willis_: OK, I'll look into scp, because my host supports and recommends ssh and scp over ftp. | 06:37 |
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| etfb | BTW: Thanks for the tip about kioslaves. This article <http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=76> looks very interesting! | 06:37 |
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| surgy | !virtual cd | 06:38 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual cd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 06:38 |
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| surgy | !virtual cdrom | 06:38 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual cdrom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 06:38 |
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| surgy | Dr_willis_: any suggestions on a virtual cd rom ? | 06:38 |
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| fignew | sigma_kubuntu: what's up? | 06:38 |
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| surgy | !virtual | 06:39 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about virtual - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 06:39 |
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| etfb | sonoftheclayr: I'm guessing theres a config file containing <<something_or_other=/usr/lib/.../modules/>> when it should contain <<something_or_other=/usr/lib/.../modules>>. Stupid problem - programmers should be more careful than that | 06:39 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | etfb: yeah but thats because its a gtk app. the only thing it did weird 4me was reupload a few files dat were already uploaded successfuly da first time. but the windows version was worse. it used to half upload files and not tell me | 06:39 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: I can't remember why I hated it, but hate it I did, and I'm not going back until the Linux port is well out of beta. | 06:40 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | fignew: how do u move the screen a bit to the left? im outputing to a tv and the screen is a bit too to the right- the trash can gets cut off | 06:41 |
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| sonoftheclayr | etfb: that's what i'm thinking. I just have to find it. Would it be an X or nvidia config problem? | 06:41 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | etfb: it would help if it was in the qt language | 06:42 |
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| etfb | sonoftheclayr: I think the trick is to look in any file with the name [thing]rc or [thing].conf, including invisible files, and search for that string. | 06:43 |
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| etfb | Anyone know the find syntax for egrepping inside multiple files? I always forget, and the man page is a pain... | 06:43 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: qt language??? | 06:43 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | etfb: what kde is programmed in. gnome uses gtk | 06:45 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: Oh, ok - not so much a language as a library. Gotcha. But I think the problem I encountered was general lack of testing, and lots of missing features. Menus that did nothing, overrideable defaults that didn't save, stuff like that. Too irritating for more than casual use. | 06:47 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | i didnt know openoffice was gtk :( | 06:50 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | i wish koffice was as good as it because then id switch | 06:51 |
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| etfb | Dr_willis_: SUCCESS! The trick is: type fish://USERNAME@SFTPSERVER into Konqy or the Alt+F2 dialog, put in your password and Voila! Remote file manager, no worries. Thanks for the tip! This'll probably change how I work with Linux. | 06:51 |
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| flaccid | you can always google grep tutorials there are many | 06:51 |
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| flaccid | etfb: checkout krusader :) | 06:51 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: Use MS Word for something beyond writing a suicide note and you'll quickly discover how good OOo is. | 06:51 |
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| Xcell | lol | 06:52 |
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| naknomik | I have compiz, and set to use cube, but I only got 2 desktops, instead of 4, how? | 06:52 |
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| etfb | flaccid: Yeah, I know - I was hoping to save time by wasting someone else's. Isn't that what IRC is for? | 06:52 |
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| etfb | flaccid: I'll look at Krusader, but the solution Dr_willis helped me find is surprising useful, so I'll check it out first. | 06:52 |
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| etfb | naknomik: This is just a guess, but: do you have your system set up to have four desktops? I believe the Gutsy default is now two. That might be why you're not seeing the others: they're not there! | 06:53 |
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| naknomik | oh. | 06:54 |
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| etfb | naknomik: Go to settings:/Desktop/ and click on Multiple Desktops | 06:54 |
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| naknomik | It shows, I have single desktop. | 06:55 |
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| naknomik | But in the Pager I see 1 and 2 | 06:55 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | etfb: i use openoffice. but u can feel that its slower on kde. i think theres way too much java in it | 06:55 |
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| etfb | naknomik: What happens if you set the number of desktops to 4? | 06:57 |
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| naknomik | I get 8 | 06:57 |
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| etfb | naknomik: Congratulations: that is officially WEIRD. | 06:57 |
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| naknomik | hee hee... and no solution to my weird desktop? | 06:57 |
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| etfb | naknomik: I've never touched compiz, so I can't help you there. | 06:58 |
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| etfb | I'm tempted to try Compiz,but I have a 1.6GHz Toshiba with 1.5Gb RAM and a Centrino Duo (pretend dual-core) processor. Will it run like a slug? | 06:59 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as Bicubic |
| Bicubic | woo, I'm in the preinstall livecd | 06:59 |
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| Bicubic | is there a partition manager I can use? | 06:59 |
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| * etfb is frightened to think that the above specs could constitute "insufficiently powerful". My first PC had 32K and an 80 col green screen! | 06:59 |
| sigma_kubuntu | i think u can use the one in the installer | 07:00 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: Yeah, Java is a dog, but processor power is improving all the time. It's due to become minimally usable in about 2030, if you can wait... | 07:01 |
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| Bicubic | its not really a manager. About all it allows to do is delete, sigma_kubuntu | 07:01 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | etfb: lol duno if im that patient | 07:02 |
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| Bicubic | java is a terror | 07:02 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | Bicubic: theres a manager in the ubuntu cd | 07:02 |
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| Bicubic | after being forced to use it for 6 months, I'm more certain than ever | 07:02 |
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| Bicubic | sigma_kubuntu, name? | 07:03 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | why did that have to go java! well does anyone know when openoffice 3 wil b out? | 07:03 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | Bicubic: think its gparted. its on one of the menus | 07:04 |
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| OilR0ck | etfb: lol, that was funny | 07:04 |
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| OilR0ck | and so true | 07:04 |
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| larry | hi, i need help to configure a ethernet image scanner, someone can help me? | 07:04 |
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| flaccid | etfb: irc is for what google can't provide. was just showing you a nice file manager that is more powerful than konqueror :) | 07:05 |
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| OilR0ck | larry: ethernet image scanner? | 07:05 |
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| OilR0ck | ethernet scanner = wireshark | 07:06 |
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| larry | hi OilROck | 07:06 |
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| larry | I have a multifunction epson CX5400 | 07:06 |
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| OilR0ck | ah | 07:07 |
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| larry | i connectec it to a multifunction printers server | 07:07 |
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| OilR0ck | sorry then, the best help I can give is: http://www.sane-project.org/ | 07:07 |
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| larry | the printer work but kooda don't see the scanner | 07:08 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | gee they sure did fix alot in kde4 rc2. i like the how the taskbar isnt the full width of the screen | 07:08 |
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| larry | thank, they send me to the #sane channel | 07:08 |
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| noobuntu | is the next kubuntu going to have kde4? | 07:09 |
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| OilR0ck | noobuntu: i believe it will be an option to use 3 or 4 | 07:09 |
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| larry | but | 07:09 |
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| larry | I did not have answers from anyone | 07:09 |
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| etfb | flaccid: The fish:// kioslave is pretty clever though - streets ahead of what I'm used to. But I'll give Krusader a look-over too, since I seem to recall you haven't steered me wrong yet... | 07:10 |
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| noobuntu | OilR0ck: why do you believe that | 07:10 |
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| OilR0ck | i read a wikki entry i think... saying they will both be supported, 3 default, 4 an option | 07:10 |
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| etfb | OilR0ck: I'd heard KDE4 would be standard, but it makes sense to give people the option. It's a very Debianish thing to do, making allowances for luddi^H^H^H^H^H people who are cautious. | 07:11 |
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| OilR0ck | myself, i think 4 will be hard pressed to deliver the same functionality as 3 for the next release | 07:11 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | i heard it will be a seperate cd :( | 07:12 |
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| OilR0ck | it will be awesome, but has a long way to go | 07:12 |
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| etfb | OilR0ck: Why? It's evolution, not revolution. Have they scrapped THAT much of KDE3? | 07:12 |
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| OilR0ck | yes | 07:12 |
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| OilR0ck | they have | 07:12 |
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| etfb | OilR0ck: You're sure you're not just seeing the beta versions with some functionality deliberately switched off while they debug? | 07:12 |
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| OilR0ck | yes, i'm sure | 07:13 |
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| OilR0ck | its a whole new ball game | 07:13 |
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| etfb | OilR0ck: Disturbing. Got any pointers to reviews/analyses? | 07:13 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | they stold our system settings menu. lol. i stil prefer kcontrol tho | 07:13 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: That's why God^H^H^HMark Shuttleworth gave us Alt+F2! | 07:14 |
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| OilR0ck | its not disturbing, because the break/change is good imo. just gonna take awhile | 07:14 |
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| kristjan_ | how to release shell in konsole? (e.g. if you run kwin --replace in konsole it won't give you a chance to type there anything else) | 07:14 |
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| Dr_willis_ | Bash job controll basics.. | 07:14 |
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| Dr_willis_ | use ctrl-z then the 'bg' command | 07:14 |
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| OilR0ck | they basically replaced kicker, pannels, desktop with superkaramabe | 07:14 |
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| etfb | OilR0ck: I'd only heard good things about KDE4, but any time you throw out good code you run risks. Ask Joel Spolsky. | 07:14 |
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| OilR0ck | well i don't know.. but they say it wasn't good code they threw out | 07:15 |
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| OilR0ck | it was apparently cryptic, unreadable, unmaintable | 07:15 |
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| etfb | kristjan_: If you know you'll be suffering that, run <<myprogram &>> instead of <<myprogram>> and it will run in the background. (The << >> are quote marks; don't type them!) | 07:15 |
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| OilR0ck | but i'm not a kde devel, so | 07:15 |
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| sigma_kubuntu | etfb: yeah i know that but will kcontrol even exist in kde 4 | 07:15 |
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| etfb | OilR0ck: Yeah, but every programmer says that. Maintenance is 1000x harder than writing new stuff. | 07:16 |
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| OilR0ck | :) | 07:16 |
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| etfb | sigma_kubuntu: Good point... | 07:16 |
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| kristjan_ | Dr_willis: pressing ctrl-z freezed my kde | 07:16 |
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| etfb | kristjan_: Within the konsole? | 07:16 |
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| OilR0ck | i wish they would have touted kde4.0 as a tech preview , which it is, but add that to the naming | 07:17 |
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| kristjan_ | etfb: yes, I pressed it after I run "kwin --replace" | 07:17 |
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| OilR0ck | because ppl will get pumped on kde4.0 when really kde4.0 should be a year away | 07:17 |
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| OilR0ck | which they'll call 4.1 | 07:17 |
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| OilR0ck | and i'm a huge kde fanboy... just think they could have gone about it in a better way | 07:17 |
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| kristjan_ | !fanboy | 07:18 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about fanboy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 07:18 |
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| OilR0ck | and i get the whole, release early, often, get devel working on it | 07:18 |
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| etfb | kristjan_: I guess backgrounding a window manager isn't the way to go then. Sorry, I know nothing more. | 07:18 |
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| kristjan_ | such a stupid word | 07:18 |
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| etfb | kristjan_: Be glad you're not among science fiction fans, some of whom insist that the plural of "fan" is "fen", and get huffy if you get it wrong... | 07:19 |
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| Dr_willis_ | kristjan_, or run the commands with & after them | 07:19 |
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| kristjan_ | Dr_willis_: like "kwin -- replace &&"? | 07:19 |
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| Dr_willis_ | you just need 1 | 07:20 |
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| Dr_willis_ | Bash Job controll basics, :) | 07:20 |
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| etfb | Anyhow, I only came here to ask one question, and got sidetracked (surprise, surprise!). Better get back to work... | 07:20 |
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| kristjan_ | Dr_willis_: this won't work either, now I got no window decorations | 07:20 |
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| Dr_willis_ | I dont mess with compiz. You have follwed the !compiz wiki page? | 07:21 |
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| Dr_willis_ | !compiz | 07:21 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 07:21 |
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| === tehm0nk is now known as tehm0nk-g0ne |
| MilhousePunkRock | Hello everyone! Is there an easy way to get Amarok 1.4.8 on Feisty? | 07:37 |
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| voidmage | use the kubuntu repos? | 07:37 |
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| voidmage | MilhousePunkRock: actually, it's in backports | 07:38 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | voidmage: Well, for Feisty there is only 1.4.7, the newest release is only in the Gutsy backports... | 07:38 |
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| voidmage | oh, feisty. | 07:38 |
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| voidmage | durr. | 07:38 |
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| sigma_ | what does "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" mean for a dvd writer? | 07:38 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | voidmage: Yes, my desktop, which is the music listening machine, is still on Feisty, because I am in the middle of my thesis and I can not risk anything going wrong with the update... | 07:39 |
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| voidmage | anything change that much with 1.4.8? | 07:39 |
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| voidmage | because i can't find any way to get it on feisty | 07:39 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | voidmage: Well... No really drastic changes, I was suprised they released a new version before 2.0 anyway, but I still like to be bleeding edge in some respects... | 07:40 |
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| === tehm0nk_ is now known as tehm0nk |
| voidmage | if you REALLY want to you could compile | 07:41 |
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| voidmage | it | 07:41 |
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| voidmage | but other than that i can't see any way to do it in feisty | 07:42 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | voidmage: Actually I am considering doing that... Because there is a patch that is probably not included which interests me a lot | 07:42 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | voidmage: On the other hand, I could as well use the holidays to update to Gutsy... The newer kernel tempts me, I could finally use hibernate on my desktop... | 07:46 |
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| jtmoney | strange problem: i created a simple script that contains lines such as this: mount -t smbfs //zeus/C$ /mnt/zeus/c -o username=James,password=somepassword ... whenever i run the script (with sudo), it gives me this error: 15835: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) ... but if run that command manually, from within a shell, it mounts the windows share without problem | 07:48 |
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| OilR0ck | MilhousePunkRock: i might be missing something, but why use hibernate on a desktop? | 07:49 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | OilR0ck: Resumes faster than a fresh boot. I love it so much on my laptop, that I can continue from where I left. And it saves energy to not have the pc running when I don't use it | 07:50 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | OilR0ck: Suspend will also be nice, when I leave the computer for a short while. | 07:51 |
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| OilR0ck | oh, i totally see it on a laptop. for a desktop, mine never turns off | 07:51 |
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| snarkster | can anyone suggest a trancoder to change wmv to something more linux friendly. | 07:52 |
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| snarkster | im trying to look at a Eve Online movie and I just get sound | 07:52 |
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| flake | instead of using an audio switch or splitter between my windows and ubuntu pc, can i run ubuntu as an audio server to play any windows sounds through it, so it acts like a mixer? | 07:53 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | OilR0ck: We only have a two room appartment, so the desktop is in the bedroom. As it's nowhere near being silent, it has to be turned off... | 07:54 |
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| OilR0ck | snarkster: there is mencoder and ffmpeg, and a gui: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567016&highlight=convertit | 07:55 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | OilR0ck: Since you are northern american in the widest sense, I see you don't care about saving energy ;) | 07:55 |
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| OilR0ck | lol | 07:55 |
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| OilR0ck | :) | 07:56 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | My point of view is, when the PC is idle, it does not have to be running. But I am too lazy to shut it down and boot it up again all the time, that's where suspend and hibernate come into play... | 07:56 |
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| OilR0ck | yeah, thats cool, just never tried it myself... | 07:58 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | it will only work properly with a kernel newer than feisty's... In fact I have another desktop which runs mythbuntu gutsy and it hibernates fine (after some tweaking) | 07:59 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | feisty will come back up with dead usb, which is pretty bad if you have a usb mouse like I do... | 07:59 |
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| OilR0ck | so just upgrade to gutsy | 08:00 |
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| OilR0ck | it will be fine ;) | 08:00 |
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| jtmoney | can someone explain uid/gid to me, or find me a web site that does? :) | 08:00 |
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| OilR0ck | user id and group id | 08:01 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | I am actually considering doing this now that hardy will not be LTS anyway | 08:01 |
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| OilR0ck | oh, i thought the next release was LTS? | 08:01 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | OilR0ck: Not for Kubuntu, since they will focus on KDE 4... According to a discussion on kubuntu-devel https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2007-December/002066.html | 08:03 |
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| OilR0ck | jtmoney: what do you need to know? | 08:03 |
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| jtmoney | i have no what idea what they mean, except that UID=0? | 08:03 |
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| jtmoney | so, i'm not sure what UID=1000 means? | 08:03 |
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| snarkster | that your users id number | 08:04 |
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| jtmoney | all users can read/write to mounted shares if i specify that as part of the options for a mount command? | 08:04 |
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| OilR0ck | uid=0 is root | 08:04 |
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| OilR0ck | uid=1000, is a particular user id | 08:04 |
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| jtmoney | ahh | 08:04 |
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| stdin | each user has a user ID (a number) assigned to it | 08:04 |
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| jtmoney | 1000 = my user id | 08:04 |
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| jtmoney | according to /etc/passwd | 08:04 |
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| OilR0ck | yes | 08:04 |
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| OilR0ck | and you'll prob see 1000:1000 | 08:04 |
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| jtmoney | so, basically, only i have read/write permissions? | 08:04 |
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| jtmoney | yes | 08:04 |
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| OilR0ck | the second is your group it | 08:04 |
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| OilR0ck | cat /etc/group | 08:04 |
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| jtmoney | okay, thus the g in gid? :) | 08:05 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | jtmoney: Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_identifier_(Unix) | 08:05 |
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| jtmoney | beautiful | 08:05 |
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| OilR0ck | yep | 08:05 |
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| stdin | "id -u" shows your user id and "id -g" shows group id | 08:05 |
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| jtmoney | thanks, guys | 08:05 |
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| snarkster | it is a beautiful thing | 08:05 |
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| jtmoney | out of curiosity, where is the unshadowed password file in ubuntu? | 08:06 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | jtmoney: And, who would have guessed it, GUID is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_identifier_(Unix) | 08:06 |
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| jtmoney | ahh, /etc/shadow | 08:07 |
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| jtmoney | can i just say, i bought this toshiba on sale for $550 | 08:08 |
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| jtmoney | came with vista basic, and it ran like absolute crap | 08:08 |
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| jtmoney | doubled the memory... still ran like absolute crap | 08:08 |
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| jtmoney | threw kubuntu on here and i never looked back | 08:08 |
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| jtmoney | it would have taken more time (if possible at all) to locate all the appropriate drivers for this lappy under xp | 08:08 |
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| jtmoney | ubuntu is so solid | 08:08 |
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| jtmoney | i think i'm going to move my mom over to it | 08:09 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | jtmoney: I tried that too, her printer does not work in Linux... :/ | 08:09 |
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| jtmoney | "all i need is the web and email" and she already users firefox and thunderbird... i don't see why i shouldn't | 08:09 |
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| jtmoney | ohh, hahahaha forgot about that | 08:10 |
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| romunov | i managed to get compiz working on kubuntu 7.10 | 08:10 |
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| jtmoney | except the mfc she has is a brother which generally have good linux support from what i recal | 08:10 |
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| romunov | the trick is to not use the glx version :) | 08:10 |
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| jtmoney | romunov: what kind of video card do you have? | 08:10 |
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| OilR0ck | yes, you don't want glx with nvidia | 08:10 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | jtmoney: That's what she gets for not asking advice when shopping for a new printer... Now she'll get Windows 98 and I will get a T-Shirt saying "No, I will not fix your Windows" | 08:10 |
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| jtmoney | MilhousePunkRock: hahahaha those shirts are money | 08:11 |
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| jtmoney | actually, i bought it for her on a whim on black friday | 08:11 |
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| jtmoney | i've been through epsons, hps, lexmarks, etc. | 08:11 |
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| jtmoney | the only one i thought was truly solid was a brother | 08:11 |
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| jtmoney | or, as i like to call them, "mah niggas" :-X | 08:11 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | jtmoney: We'ce had a Lexmark before, that worked pretty well. Was on Gentoo though | 08:11 |
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| OilR0ck | yeah my brother mfc works good | 08:11 |
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| OilR0ck | now anyway | 08:12 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | lexmark is possibly the worst printer manufacturer ever. their printers are almost literally disposable, as it's almost cheaper to buy a new printer than ink for the old one. | 08:12 |
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| jtmoney | okay, now i wish there was a way to congfigure knetworkmanager to launch the little script i wrote to mount windows shares when it connects to the wireless network in my house (and not, say, whenever i'm on campus... don't really feel secure sending out l/p requests in a classroom full of CS nerds) | 08:13 |
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| jtmoney | Daisuke_Ido: yeah, if i had more room, i would just buy a laser printer and keep the brother for scanning/color printing | 08:13 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | if i buy a laser, it'll be an HP | 08:14 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | probably | 08:14 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | not sure what brother's reliability is like for laser printers | 08:14 |
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| OilR0ck | what i need is AVCHD support | 08:14 |
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| jtmoney | Daisuke_Ido: at my old job, we had lots of HP lasers... they were absolute tanks | 08:15 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | the old ones are, yeah, but the new ones... not so much, from what i've heard | 08:15 |
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| jtmoney | yeah, this was five years ago or so... and they had them when i started working there | 08:16 |
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| jtmoney | i'll give brother a go | 08:16 |
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| jtmoney | teh sexy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113165 | 08:17 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | jtmoney: I have a Samsung ML-2010 now, it's been really cheap and prints like it should. Hooked up to Debian NSLU2 even my girlfriend can print from her Windows laptop | 08:19 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | that is pretty nice | 08:19 |
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| OilR0ck | maybe check here before you buy: http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi | 08:20 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828113212 <- i'd spring the extra for that one just for duplexing alone | 08:21 |
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| jtmoney | yeah, i think having a network interface is where it's at | 08:23 |
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| MilhousePunkRock | jtmoney: Mine is networked without a NIC | 08:25 |
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| Daisuke_Ido | from the reviews i'm seeing the construction is lightweight and there's a lot of page curl... maybe i'll go with an HP after all | 08:26 |
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| jtmoney | blah, now i just have to get c&c generals working with wine or cedega | 08:32 |
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| === jo_ is now known as sexy_noob |
| dsmith_ | how about cnc 3 | 08:36 |
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| snarkster | need to make sure you have opengl to play cnc Gens | 08:54 |
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| snarkster | I could really use mach64 DRI but kubuntu doesnt have it anymore | 08:55 |
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| snarkster | when i run glxgears the gears hardly move. | 08:55 |
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| snarkster | when i have mach64 DRI installed then move just fine | 08:56 |
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| === sorin is now known as sorin32 |
| sorin | hi all | 09:01 |
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| sonoftheclayr | What does everybody think about using envy to install the nvidia drivers? | 09:02 |
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| stdin | !envy | 09:03 |
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| ubotu | envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » | 09:03 |
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| stdin | that's what I think ^ | 09:03 |
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| sonoftheclayr | Oh yeah. What if the driver that the restriced manager installs won't load glx? | 09:03 |
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| stdin | if the packaged version doesn't, then it's not likely the version envy pulls will | 09:05 |
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| sonoftheclayr | Damn | 09:05 |
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| snarkster | where would I find the kde restricted mangar gui | 09:08 |
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| snarkster | i thought system but not there | 09:08 |
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| snarkster | or what is the command to start it? | 09:09 |
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| snarkster | oh another thing my control center is empty as well as my info center, how do i put things from lost and found in the right on the kmenu | 09:11 |
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| berkes | is anyone else experiencing problems with nspluginviewer on konqueror qfter recent upgrades (last week) | 09:13 |
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| berkes | ? | 09:13 |
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| snarkster | yes | 09:13 |
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| jussi01 | !flashissues | berkes | 09:13 |
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| ubotu | berkes: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. | 09:13 |
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| jussi01 | berkes: also see /topic -you should read it every time you come in here | 09:14 |
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| berkes | jussi01: I ususally do. sorry | 09:14 |
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| jussi01 | :) | 09:14 |
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| berkes | I have been looking for the launchpad entry on this today. Do you have an issue number or url? | 09:15 |
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| poison-- | mornin guys | 09:16 |
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| snarkster | WB poison | 09:16 |
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| poison-- | :D | 09:18 |
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| sigma_ | guys i think something has attacked my pc, the name of the trash can in kontact has changed from "trash" to "Deleted Items" and when i click on the trash can in the taskbar it says "Empty Deleted Items folder" instead of "Empty Trash Bin" - any idea how i can change it back? | 09:20 |
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| snarkster | attacked?? come on man your in a tank.. | 09:21 |
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| snarkster | the penguin tank | 09:21 |
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| snarkster | did you install a theme? | 09:21 |
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| poison-- | pretty sure he did | 09:22 |
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| snarkster | oh bit of news.. if you install rc2 live cd and decide to go back to 3.5.8 dont forget to install kubuntu-desktop or some things wont work right | 09:22 |
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| sigma_ | lol ok thats a bit of a over reaction, nope didnt change the theme, i did change the locale from USA to south africa | 09:22 |
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| stdin | sigma_: that's why then | 09:22 |
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| snarkster | hmm could that have changed the name of trach can | 09:23 |
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| stdin | different locals have different names for ir | 09:23 |
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| stdin | *it | 09:23 |
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| snarkster | i dont even have a trashcan on my desktop | 09:23 |
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| snarkster | how do you make one? | 09:23 |
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| stdin | make a link to url, and have the url as "trash:/" | 09:23 |
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| snarkster | thank you very much | 09:24 |
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| sigma_ | ah that solved it, was a bit worried there for a moment! | 09:24 |
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| sigma_ | you can install kde 4 rc2 from the live cd as a seperate installation? | 09:25 |
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| snarkster | anyone know anything about superkaramba | 09:25 |
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| snarkster | nah I dumped the whole computer | 09:25 |
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| sigma_ | kind of, what do u wanna know? | 09:25 |
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| snarkster | Im trying to use the Yahoo Avatar theme for superkaramba but it does nothing | 09:25 |
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| snarkster | very little documentation about that theme | 09:26 |
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| sigma_ | ok wouldn't know about that but alot of the themes don't work for some reason | 09:26 |
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| snarkster | would you mind giving it a try? | 09:27 |
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| snarkster | if you have a yahoo account i mean | 09:27 |
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| snarkster | nah nv.. to invasive.. | 09:27 |
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| snarkster | sorry | 09:27 |
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| sigma_ | nope dont have one, im a google supporter:) | 09:27 |
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| romunov_ | has anyone got a good tutorial on how to install a nice docker? | 09:28 |
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| max__ | does anyone know how to use gtalk on kubuntu KDE 7.0 | 09:28 |
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| jtmoney | romunov_: like awn? | 09:28 |
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| sigma_ | kde7.0? | 09:28 |
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| jussi01 | ??? | 09:29 |
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| romunov_ | jtmoney: anything will do | 09:29 |
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| max__ | thats d desktop i am using | 09:29 |
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| berkes | timewarped from the future? | 09:29 |
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| jussi01 | romunov_: go google avant window navigator - there is a good tutorial on their site | 09:30 |
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| stdin | max__: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support | 09:30 |
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| max__ | avant k................thnx dude | 09:30 |
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| berkes | oh, max_ prolly means he's running kubuntu 7.0 (and not KDE 7.0). | 09:30 |
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| jussi01 | berkes: there is no 7.0 | 09:30 |
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| Pants | um ... I need help setting up my screen. before, I'd had no problem getting a good resolution with a generic "Plug and Play" monitor driver, but then I installed a whole bunch of updates and now my only choices are 800 by 600 and 640 by 480 | 09:30 |
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| sigma_ | will kubuntu hardy work properly with 5.1 creative sound cards? i found a script to make it work but it only works sometimes and jams alsa completely other times | 09:31 |
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| jussi01 | berkes: 7.04 and 7.10 | 09:31 |
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| romunov_ | jussi01: thanks, i'll do that | 09:31 |
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| jussi01 | romunov_: :) | 09:31 |
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| berkes | jussi01: sorry, type, I wanted to type 7.10 =) | 09:31 |
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| jussi01 | berkes: ;) | 09:31 |
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| max__ | its working with my philips 5.1 | 09:31 |
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| jussi01 | Pants: nvidia pr ati graphics? | 09:31 |
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| jussi01 | or* | 09:31 |
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| sigma_ | stdin: is there any way to move my screen slightly to the left? when i output to the tv its a bit too much to the right (gets cut off) | 09:32 |
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| Pants | jussi01, nvidia | 09:32 |
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| stdin | sigma_: I wouldn't know, I never use TV output | 09:32 |
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| sigma_ | max__: which version of kubuntu does it work on? | 09:32 |
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| jussi01 | Pants: just go and reinstall the nvidia driver | 09:32 |
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| jussi01 | !nvidia | Pants | 09:32 |
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| ubotu | Pants: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | 09:32 |
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| === romunov_ is now known as romunov |
| === ubuntu_ is now known as Bicubic |
| max__ | i am using 7 | 09:33 |
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| sigma_ | stdin: well do you know of any command for a monitor in general, windows has that gui where you click the arrows but theres nothing like that in linux | 09:33 |
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| Pants | thank you, jussi01! | 09:33 |
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| Bicubic | uh.. I'm installing right now and the process seems to have hung at configuring apt "scanning the mirror". What the shi? | 09:34 |
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| jtmoney | Pants: i would recommend using envy | 09:34 |
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| jtmoney | lest headache that way | 09:34 |
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| stdin | sigma_: not really, no | 09:34 |
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| Pants | what's envy? | 09:34 |
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| Pants | !envy | 09:34 |
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| ubotu | envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » | 09:34 |
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| Pants | ... | 09:35 |
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| === icewater1an is now known as icewaterman |
| jussi01 | jtmoney: no need for ewnvy | 09:35 |
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| sigma_ | which version of kde is on the hardy alpha2 cd? | 09:36 |
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| stdin | same as in gutsy | 09:36 |
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| jussi01 | sigma_: #ubuntu+1 for hardy q's | 09:37 |
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| romunov | hum, do i really need glx to run awn? | 09:37 |
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| romunov | i've had really bad experience with it | 09:37 |
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| jussi01 | romunov: to run awn you need compiz | 09:38 |
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| sigma_ | is that kde 4 rc2 cd on the kubuntu site just a live cd or also a installer cd? | 09:38 |
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| snarkster | both | 09:39 |
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| snarkster | smoke break | 09:39 |
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| romunov | jussi01: check! | 09:39 |
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| jussi01 | romunov: ?? | 09:39 |
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| jtmoney | romunov: which video card do you have? | 09:39 |
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| sigma_ | its rather small though, are alot of the apps missing? | 09:39 |
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| romunov | i use radeon 9600SE | 09:41 |
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| romunov | i have compiz running (with emerald) | 09:42 |
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| jtmoney | romunov: i installed the latest ati binary and it allows for compiz to run without xgl | 09:42 |
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| jtmoney | well, i updated to 8.4.3 and now it doens't work, heh | 09:43 |
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| jtmoney | but it worked for 8.4.2 | 09:43 |
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| romunov | i have compiz running on "defaults" | 09:44 |
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| romunov | i did a fresh install yesterday (i somehow managed to wreck the system) and installed compiz+emerald over that | 09:44 |
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| jtmoney | romunov: i usually don't install emerald... i just use kde-window-decorator | 09:45 |
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| jtmoney | brb, gotta reboot | 09:45 |
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| jtmoney | fux0ring with envy as we speak | 09:46 |
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| snarkster | where do I send request for xorg-driver-mach to? | 09:46 |
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| romunov | well, i gotta run to the store and hit the showers before a friend arrives | 09:47 |
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| snarkster | enjoy | 09:48 |
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| Pants | I'm reconfiguring the xserver-xorg package ... do I need the framebuffer device interface enabled? | 09:48 |
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| Pants | !framebuffer | 09:48 |
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| ubotu | Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub | 09:48 |
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| snarkster | !xorg-driver-mach | 09:48 |
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| vzduch | Pants: framebuffer is for mostly mobile devices that don't run on a regular X server | 09:49 |
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| romunov | snarkster: you don't have to be so snarkastric :) | 09:50 |
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| snarkster | LOL | 09:50 |
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| Pants | okay, thanks, vzduch | 09:50 |
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| snarkster | well its almost 3am here.. | 09:50 |
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| vzduch | well, it's almost 11 a.m. here | 09:50 |
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| romunov | is there a way to "save" my current settings and everything - so i can revert to this at a latter time? | 09:51 |
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| vzduch | the nicest sunshine, but shivery cold | 09:51 |
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| sivaji | is there any tool to check my speaker and mic status ? | 09:51 |
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| vzduch | romunov: what settings? | 09:51 |
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| romunov | my kubuntu *.* | 09:51 |
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| romunov | everything... if you know what i mean | 09:51 |
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| vzduch | !backup | 09:52 |
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| ubotu | There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning | 09:52 |
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| sivaji | !recorder | 09:52 |
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| romunov | if i mess anything up, i can revert to this setting... | 09:52 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about recorder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 09:52 |
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| romunov | thanks | 09:52 |
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| sivaji | !sound | 09:52 |
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| ubotu | If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 09:52 |
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| sivaji | is there any tool to check my speaker and mic working condition ? | 09:53 |
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| === desti_T2 is now known as desti |
| snarkster | !driver requests | 09:55 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about driver requests - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 09:55 |
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| stdin | snarkster: file a bug report for it | 09:56 |
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| snarkster | bug report for what a new driver? | 09:56 |
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| snarkster | ive never ever done a bug report. Have no clue as to what to put or where to go | 09:57 |
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| stdin | if it exists, then request it to be packaged | 09:57 |
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| stdin | !bug | 09:57 |
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| ubotu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots | 09:57 |
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| snarkster | it does exist and where do i go to post such a request. | 09:57 |
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| stdin | snarkster: the 1st link ubotu posted | 09:57 |
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| snarkster | thank you | 09:57 |
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| stdin | then click the big red "Report a bug" button | 09:58 |
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| sivaji | stdin is there any tool to check my speaker and mic working condition ? | 09:58 |
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| stdin | speakers: system settings -> sound system -> test sound | 09:59 |
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| stdin | for mic I guess you can try plugging it in and turning up the volume in kmix | 09:59 |
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| desti | http://www.garagegames.com/products/29/ | 10:15 |
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| jpatrick | !ot > desti | 10:16 |
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| desti | k | 10:18 |
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| * membrive saluda | 10:40 |
| jpatrick | membrive: wrong channel / canal incorrecto ;) | 10:41 |
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| romunov | is anyone experiencing compiz/openoffice-presentation conflicts? | 10:41 |
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| romunov | make that openoffice-*.* | 10:42 |
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| membrive | jpatrick, was just an /ame ;) | 10:43 |
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| phenix | hello all | 10:44 |
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| pag | hey phenix :) | 10:44 |
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| phenix | mmm how many nixoidow | 10:45 |
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| risto | is there any vim like in mac ? | 10:49 |
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| blackflag | I want to use ntpdate in a script | 10:51 |
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| blackflag | but ntpdate is executable by root | 10:51 |
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| blackflag | how can I execute ntpdate in a script? | 10:52 |
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| blackflag | can someone help? | 10:52 |
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| kingoftheroots | sudo the script | 10:52 |
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| blackflag | yes okay, but I want to execute it via cron | 10:53 |
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| sigma_ | How do i reset my firewall to the default settings? | 10:53 |
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| kingoftheroots | so put it in roots cron tab | 10:53 |
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| kingoftheroots | kcron | 10:53 |
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| blackflag | ahh,okay :) | 10:53 |
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| dhude | can I install mce on ubuntu? | 10:56 |
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| romunov | dhude: have you tried a package manager? | 10:59 |
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| Riddell | ** Kubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 10:59 |
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| sigma_ | Riddell: right now? | 11:00 |
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| dhude | romunov: I tried synaptic | 11:00 |
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| Riddell | sigma_: yes | 11:00 |
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| romunov | still having trouble with compiz and title bars... | 11:00 |
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| romunov | Riddell: what's the meeting about? can anyone participate? | 11:00 |
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| snarkster | wow getting a different drm to work is hard. | 11:00 |
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| girolamo | !italiano | 11:02 |
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| ubotu | Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! | 11:02 |
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| Riddell | romunov: about kubuntu, all welcome | 11:03 |
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| snarkster | ood night | 11:04 |
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| davf | Anyone here? | 11:12 |
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| bjwebb | hi | 11:14 |
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| bjwebb | anyone konw if its possible to get a keyboard volume control working with linux | 11:16 |
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| bjwebb | and how? | 11:16 |
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| risto | any quanta pros here ? | 11:16 |
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| risto | how i get my main toolbar back if i lost it ??? | 11:17 |
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| se7en_ | sombody use kmobiletool and know what kmobile (returning error) >>>AT+CPMS=MT means | 11:23 |
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| Hamra | a week ago, i did a clean install of gutsy, but i had problems on startup with fsck, iyt kept hanging on "checking filesystems", so i booted the liveCD and opened fstab, and put zeroes in the last column of my drives, does that remove them from the bad shutdown check as well ? | 11:27 |
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| olivier | Bonjour à tous | 11:27 |
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| Hamra | !fr | olivier | 11:27 |
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| ubotu | olivier: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. | 11:27 |
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| eshat | hey,.. flashplayer on x64 does not work anymore ,... | 11:33 |
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| JohnFlux | mark shuttleworth is on bbc news now! | 11:36 |
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| bjwebb | o rly? | 11:36 |
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| bjwebb | which channel | 11:36 |
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| eshat | BBC | 11:37 |
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| JohnFlux | dunno, i'm watching it online :-D | 11:37 |
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| JohnFlux | he's gone now heh | 11:37 |
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| JohnFlux | they are talking about connecting villages that are around 2KM apart | 11:37 |
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| bjwebb | yeah, click | 11:38 |
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| bjwebb | its bestof | 11:38 |
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| bjwebb | so i think i saw that interview | 11:38 |
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| === bjwebb_ is now known as bjwebb |
| eshat | WHY doesn't my FlashPlayer work anymore,... i am on x64 | 11:42 |
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| Dekans | how did you manager it to work ? | 11:43 |
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| Dekans | managed* | 11:43 |
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| eshat | when i try to reinstall i get a " | 11:44 |
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| eshat | md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz | 11:44 |
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| eshat | The Flash plugin is NOT installed. | 11:44 |
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| eshat | retrying doesn't solve this | 11:45 |
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| Dekans | flashfplugin is a "é bits binary | 11:45 |
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| eshat | i found the soloution in ubuntu forums | 11:46 |
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| vzduch | !flashissues | 11:46 |
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| ubotu | The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. | 11:46 |
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| eshat | reason is that adobe updated there flash player but the md5 mismatches with ubuntu reps | 11:46 |
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| bjwebb | hi | 11:47 |
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| jussi01 | !broadcom | 11:48 |
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| ubotu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx | 11:48 |
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| andy_123 | hi all | 11:54 |
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| lufthanza | how do I get the rss feed applet in kubuntu? | 11:54 |
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| crazy_bus | something strange has happened. Everything seems to be working except for 2 things. One nothing appears in my dvd drives folder. And two kaffeine doesn't open and leaves no error message. Any ideas why? | 11:54 |
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| lufthanza | andy_123: hi | 11:54 |
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| andy_123 | can anyone tell me where to download kernel packages? in need to downgrade, last update killed some drivers :-( | 11:54 |
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| lufthanza | crazy_bus: have you tried opening kaffeine through the command line? | 11:55 |
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| crazy_bus | lufthanza: yes. It outputs nothing. It just goes back to the commandline without doing anything | 11:55 |
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| lufthanza | andy_123: what drivers? | 11:55 |
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| lufthanza | crazy_bus: that's very strane | 11:55 |
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| crazy_bus | I also reinstalled while keeping my home directory and it didn't fix the problem | 11:56 |
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| eshat | what are good programs to pimp my kde desktop | 11:57 |
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| lufthanza | crazy_bus: I dunno if this will help, but have you tried "sudo apt-get remove kaffeine --purge" | 11:57 |
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| lufthanza | eshat: yakuake | 11:58 |
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| lufthanza | eshat: also, knewsticker | 12:01 |
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| eshat | yakuake looks great | 12:09 |
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| eshat | are there any other programs ,... for example to show sysinfos on kde desktop ? | 12:10 |
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