| sourcemaker | ardchoille: I have 2 GB ram :-) | 00:00 |
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| Olof[M] | Um. question not regarding linux or ubuntu. | 00:02 |
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| ardchoille | sourcemaker: Not sure about that, but you might look into cutting down on unnecessary services | 00:02 |
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| Olof[M] | Is it bad to have your monitor next to a TV? Mine is flickering alot.. | 00:02 |
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| sourcemaker | ardchoille: ok thanks | 00:02 |
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| Artimus | Olof[M]: I'm not sure, but in any case, it's always annoyed me enough to find a way to separate them. | 00:02 |
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| Olof[M] | Artimus: so it's a given fact the monitor won't work good next to a tv? | 00:03 |
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| sourcemaker | Artimus: my pc is working fine... next to the tv | 00:03 |
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| Olof[M] | not the pc. the monitor | 00:04 |
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| Olof[M] | side to side, old CRT ones. | 00:04 |
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| Artimus | Depends on the frequency of both the monitor and TV. Basically, I'd recommend moving it because it's annoying to have the picture flicker... No idea if it's actual damage. | 00:05 |
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| Olof[M] | ok | 00:05 |
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| Artimus | I'm not a fan of things dancing around on my desktop. Compiz annoys me for this reason... Flicker does the same thing... | 00:05 |
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| Olof[M] | I'm a fan of having things dancing around my desktop.. | 00:07 |
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| Thingus | Compiz can be very elegant if you spend the time configuring it. | 00:07 |
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| Thingus | I have a rather professional-looking desktop for my PC, right now. | 00:07 |
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| Artimus | I've come to a set of settings that I like... They will not change until Kde4, probably | 00:08 |
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| Coldwar55 | Does anyone know if the Open Source Radeon drivers runs Compiz/AIGLX decently? | 00:10 |
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| * tolecnal throws kde and keytouch out the window and realises that he has to do this manually | 00:11 |
| DeadJones | anyone else having problems with mountconfig? | 00:11 |
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| DeadJones | i cant load the disk and file systems module / mountconfig | 00:11 |
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| pros922 | how do I get a list of all ubuntu channels on freenode? | 00:12 |
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| tehm0nk | how can i easily find a file that i know the name of but not where it is? | 00:21 |
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| DaSkreech | tehm0nk: Search :) | 00:21 |
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| DaSkreech | PriceChild: sounds painful | 00:22 |
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| tehm0nk | DaSkreech: i was hoping for a terminal command? | 00:22 |
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| DaSkreech | tehm0nk: you want to locate something ? | 00:22 |
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| DaSkreech | tehm0nk: try locate :) | 00:25 |
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| x_link | Hi! | 00:27 |
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| DaSkreech | !Hi | 00:27 |
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| ubotu | Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! | 00:27 |
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| x_link | I just upgraded my nvidia-version, the kernel was upgraded to I think. | 00:28 |
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| x_link | DaSkreech: Thanks =) | 00:28 |
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| x_link | But now my sound doesn't work. | 00:28 |
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| x_link | I use a onboard soundcard. | 00:28 |
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| x_link | Can somebody please help me with this+ | 00:28 |
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| x_link | ? | 00:28 |
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| tolecnal | as frustrating this is, I guess I'll be able to live with this minor annoyance | 00:29 |
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| x_link | Can somebody please help me? | 00:29 |
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| tehm0nk | x_link: nforce motherboard? | 00:29 |
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| biovore | probably intel HD sound :-) | 00:29 |
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| tehm0nk | probably Nforce HD sound :-P | 00:30 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 00:30 |
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| biovore | I noticed that the generic kernel on amd64 dosn't ahve the intel HD sound driver compile from some reason.. | 00:30 |
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| tehm0nk | i wonder if ... his volumn is just turned down like mine was... | 00:30 |
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| x_link | tehm0nk: Yes. | 00:30 |
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| x_link | tehm0nk: Abit KN9S nForce 550 AM2. | 00:30 |
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| DaSkreech | !sound | 00:30 |
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| ubotu | If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 | 00:30 |
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| DaSkreech | tolecnal: Problems? | 00:31 |
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| x_link | DaSkreech: It's not that. | 00:32 |
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| tolecnal | DaSkreech: short version; special keys (multimedia), dell keyboard. adjusts master volume, rather than PCM. can't find where to change the default KDE behaviour, tried with keytouch too, which does nothing (not even with a manual amixer command, and a custom defined keyboard using keytouch-editor). | 00:32 |
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| x_link | I have a red thing over my speaker next to the clock. | 00:32 |
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| DaSkreech | tolecnal: Ah I had that problem till just before gutsy went final and something fixed it and apprently broke multimedia keys for everyone else :( | 00:33 |
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| DaSkreech | x_link: Mute? | 00:33 |
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| x_link | http://www.speedyshare.com/137373901.html | 00:33 |
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| x_link | DaSkreech: Not that either. | 00:33 |
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| x_link | I tried that. | 00:33 |
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| DaSkreech | k | 00:33 |
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| x_link | =/ | 00:33 |
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| tolecnal | DaSkreech: you know what causes it? and is there a workaround? I hate such minor issues, when I know the cause, but not the solution | 00:34 |
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| DaSkreech | tolecnal: No but #ubuntu-devel might shed some light they would be the packagers | 00:35 |
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| DaSkreech | Oh wait no it's KDE keys | 00:35 |
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| === DeadJones is now known as \dEAD |
| \dEAD | the module disk and file systems could not be loaded ... ive searched everywhere for a fix to this. seems lots of ppl have this problem, yet no fix | 00:35 |
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| x_link | So nobody can help me with my sound-problem? | 00:37 |
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| === webvicti1 is now known as webvictim |
| tehm0nk | x_link: i can't remember the command to check sound settings | 00:39 |
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| Coldwar55 | Has ANYONE used the 7.12 Drivers? | 00:39 |
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| x_link | Okej | 00:40 |
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| DaSkreech | tehm0nk: alsamixer | 00:43 |
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| tehm0nk | DaSkreech: he left... | 00:44 |
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| DaSkreech | tehm0nk: Ah well :) at least now you know | 00:44 |
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| DaSkreech | tehm0nk: Still online though I could message him .... | 00:45 |
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| DaSkreech | I have to run though | 00:45 |
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| tehm0nk | but it wasn't that that i was thinking about either | 00:45 |
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| tehm0nk | there is something that you can type in terminal | 00:45 |
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| tehm0nk | to show sound settings or something | 00:45 |
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| tehm0nk | not a mixer | 00:46 |
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| === tehm0nk is now known as tehm0nk-f00d |
| firecrotch | tehm0nk-f00d: amixer ? | 00:50 |
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| dettoaltrimenti | i installed the flash-nonfree package, but youtube videos still won't play. what am I doing wrong? | 00:58 |
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| crimsun | are you using gutsy or hardy? | 01:00 |
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| dettoaltrimenti | gutsy | 01:00 |
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| \dEAD | i found it! finally! | 01:01 |
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| crimsun | dettoaltrimenti: that's likely due to the md5sum mismatch. Use the hardy package. | 01:01 |
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| \dEAD | if you get the error for Disk & File systems that some 3rd party crap, that it cant run, .. do you have an ipod connected? disconnect it and VIOLA it works again | 01:01 |
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| crimsun | dettoaltrimenti: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb | 01:02 |
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| dettoaltrimenti | thanks crimsun | 01:02 |
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| dettoaltrimenti | can i install that straight from the command line? sudo apt-get install http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_i386.deb ?? | 01:02 |
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| \dEAD | u dont know how happy i am. was thinking i was gonna have to reisntall from scratch. | 01:02 |
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| DaSkreech | Very few reasons to do that | 01:03 |
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| DaSkreech | There is one though | 01:03 |
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| DaSkreech | KDE4! :) | 01:03 |
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| * DaSkreech dances | 01:03 |
| Dr_willis | dettoaltrimenti, apt-get dosent work that way. You could grab the file with wget, then use dpkg -i thepackage.deb | 01:07 |
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| Dr_willis | dettoaltrimenti, but i think that package actually downloads the actual file. | 01:08 |
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| tolecnal | Okay, I've tried now with both keytocuh and klineakconfig/lineakd to get my keyboard special keys to function, but they they "fail" to work. Meaning, KDE takes control over the keys and their use. They keys are not defined in xmodmap, so I'm at a real loss as to where KDE configures these keys as I can't find them under keyboard layout in kcontrol either. | 01:13 |
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| DaSkreech | crimsun: Quick question about that | 01:14 |
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| crimsun | DaSkreech: "that" being? | 01:14 |
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| DaSkreech | crimsun: What binds the multimedia keys to a channel in the mixer | 01:15 |
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| crimsun | DaSkreech: depends. It can be exposed via acpi or directly in the driver. | 01:15 |
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| DaSkreech | for a while in the Gutsy run up when I pressed the multimedia vol Up/Dn buttons it was moving something other than my master and I couldn't figure how to bind them back to the master chan | 01:15 |
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| hydrogen | right click on kmix | 01:16 |
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| hydrogen | choose set master channel | 01:16 |
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| DaSkreech | hydrogen: that worked for the mousewheel but not the keys | 01:16 |
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| DaSkreech | the keys still moved whatever channel | 01:16 |
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| tolecnal | hydrogen: in my case, that doesn't work. it still uses master channel, even if I set it to 'PCM' | 01:16 |
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| hydrogen | check out kmilo then | 01:17 |
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| DaSkreech | it suddenly flipped back to correct a week before gutsy shipped but I never got what made them do that | 01:17 |
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| tolecnal | hydrogen: after I stopped kmilo, it worked (had to restart KDE though, since stopping kmilo also effectivly stopped the keyboard for some reason) | 01:27 |
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| tolecnal | hydrogen: you are officially my hero of the day.. thanks, and thanks to the others who beared with me | 01:27 |
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| === administrator is now known as administrator_ |
| === administrator_ is now known as administrator |
| tehm0nk-f00d | is there a way to only show the buttons on the taskbar of the windows on THAT desktop only? | 01:30 |
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| intelikey | yes | 01:31 |
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| intelikey | right click and configure kicker | 01:31 |
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| Dr_willis | you have to right click in the right place to get the right config menu. :) i recall... | 01:31 |
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| intelikey | the 'show windows from all desktops' box, detic it. | 01:31 |
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| Dr_willis | Configure Panel --> Taskbar --> at the bottom | 01:32 |
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| Dr_willis | Oh wait thats not it.. where was it | 01:32 |
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| Dr_willis | X box's at the top. :) | 01:32 |
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| Dr_willis | Aha! thats where you enable that window list button! :) | 01:33 |
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| markus__ | max | 01:33 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | ? | 01:34 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | no that isn't what i mean... | 01:34 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | i mean... i have 4 virtual desktops... | 01:34 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | if i switch to other desktops... the same buttons are there | 01:34 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | it makes almost no sense to me why the buttons would be there... | 01:35 |
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| * intelikey wonders what a button is | 01:35 |
| Dr_willis | I perfer it that way. | 01:35 |
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| Dr_willis | Same buttons? you are refering to the 'buttons' showing the running apps? | 01:36 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | Yes. | 01:37 |
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| Dr_willis | I have 2 desktops. one has xchat, and firefox, #2 has vi amd a terminal. | 01:37 |
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| Dr_willis | with that Check box at the top iof the settings. I ONLY see the vi/term buttons when i am on desktop 2 | 01:37 |
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| Dr_willis | i see xchat and others on desktop 1 when i am on #1 | 01:37 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | and you click them to switch | 01:37 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | nifty... | 01:37 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | whats the point in that. | 01:37 |
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| Dr_willis | to change to vi from xchat i have to go to desktop #2, Then click on the vi button. | 01:38 |
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| Dr_willis | which i dont like. | 01:38 |
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| Dr_willis | I have the panel thing show them all. :) | 01:38 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | to me... if you have 1 desktop with multiple things on there | 01:38 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | that are maximized | 01:38 |
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| * intelikey wonders how that is in any way better than just running them in one desktop... | 01:38 |
| tehm0nk-f00d | haveing 1 desktop with all the icons on it, it LITERALLY the same as 4 desktops with all them maximized on each... | 01:39 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | i mean you could even Alt tab easier | 01:39 |
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| tehm0nk-f00d | with 1 desktop | 01:39 |
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| === tehm0nk-f00d is now known as tehm0nk |
| Dr_willis | I tend to use all my apps maxamized anyway. so the only time i make use a 2nd dekstop is if i have sevral terms, or file manager windows laied out in a way i want to keep | 01:39 |
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| Dr_willis | so #1 has all my maxed apps. #2 has like 2 terms side by side, and a file manager. | 01:40 |
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| tehm0nk | i would like to be able to use differant virtual desktops to do differant sets of things... | 01:40 |
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| Dr_willis | just getting people to Maxamize their apps seems like a THing i am Constantly Hammerign into 'beginners' when i teach them the desktop basics... | 01:40 |
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| tehm0nk | like web windows/text stuff/wine for stuff i'm doing on one thing... and on a differant desktop whatever else like chatting programs or whatnot | 01:40 |
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| Dr_willis | they are looking/scrolling this ittby window all the time.. im like wanting to slap them in the head.. 'use the max button fool!' :) | 01:41 |
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| tehm0nk | but the deal is... having all the running application buttons on the taskbar just creats clutter. | 01:41 |
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| Dr_willis | Then set it to not show them. | 01:41 |
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| Dr_willis | I want them seen. so i can switch easier. You dont.. theres a setting that makes us both happy | 01:41 |
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| * intelikey doesn't do desktops. | 01:42 |
| tehm0nk | Dr_willis: appearantly LOTS of mac folks dont really minimize they're apps | 01:42 |
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| tehm0nk | and right now... konversation isn't maximized either lol | 01:42 |
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| Dr_willis | lots of mac folks are... well.. we wont go there.. | 01:42 |
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| tehm0nk | intelikey: why not? | 01:42 |
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| tehm0nk | yeah well i agree there tho Dr_willis | 01:42 |
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| Dr_willis | With 2 wide screen monitors. I dont use virtual desktops much any more these days' | 01:42 |
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| Dr_willis | I got conky running on monitor #2. and a terminal . and thats about all. :) other monitor is my main workspace. | 01:43 |
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| Dr_willis | then i got MythTV on the tv out. | 01:43 |
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| Dr_willis | Oh wait. thats 3 monitors.. | 01:43 |
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| tehm0nk | wind0ws >linux > mac (Until, they figure out direct rendering and whatnot so things like Photoshop... etc) | 01:43 |
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| intelikey | tehm0nk i just grew away from the gui. | 01:43 |
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| Dr_willis | I cant say that i have a need for Photoshop.. sorry. | 01:44 |
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| tehm0nk | yeah i have 2 monitors 2 | 01:44 |
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| tehm0nk | too | 01:44 |
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| Dr_willis | This years Must have thing/app/tool is next years... 'i rember using that ages ago'.. :) | 01:44 |
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| intelikey | !dualhead | 01:44 |
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| ubotu | Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama | 01:44 |
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| Dr_willis | I rember when Mac's 'hypercard' was the big deal. | 01:44 |
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| tehm0nk | well there is a million things linux *can not* do that i would like it to... | 01:45 |
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| Dr_willis | Then there was the Desktop Publishing stuff.. | 01:45 |
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| tehm0nk | Autodesk Inventor | 01:45 |
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| intelikey | Dr_willis ^5 :) | 01:45 |
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| mrtimbo | hi | 01:45 |
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| tehm0nk | would be one | 01:45 |
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| tehm0nk | and Mastercam, not sure if that would run either | 01:45 |
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| Dr_willis | it could do it. IF the companies would write the software.. thats not linux's fault.. but this discussion is heading to a pointless argument.. so. Im going to go play with the grandson. :) | 01:45 |
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| Dr_willis | Get him all hyped up on cookies befor he has to go home. | 01:45 |
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| tehm0nk | there is tons of things in my life that hold me from full linux-ization :-P | 01:46 |
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| intelikey | mrtimbo just jump right in. these guys will get back on topic if you ask a question | 01:46 |
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| mrtimbo | im just here to listen, its been a while since i have been in here | 01:46 |
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| Dr_willis | Hay mrtimbo | 01:46 |
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| mrtimbo | hey | 01:46 |
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| Dr_willis | Same old stuff. :) | 01:47 |
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| mrtimbo | kool | 01:47 |
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| Dr_willis | whats the latest Kubuntu.ubuntu news.. lets see.. flash ahs been causing people fits... | 01:47 |
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| tehm0nk | LOL thats hilarious about the grandson | 01:47 |
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| mrtimbo | what is flash doing? | 01:47 |
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| Dr_willis | and wasent there somthing screwy with the last batch of updates? somthing with grub breaking? | 01:47 |
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| mrtimbo | works fine here | 01:47 |
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| tehm0nk | ahs? | 01:47 |
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| tehm0nk | and flash movies ? | 01:47 |
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| tehm0nk | FLV? | 01:47 |
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| Dr_willis | mrtimbo, they updated, and i think they dident fix the md5 file. so that confused the installer. | 01:47 |
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| mrtimbo | ahh | 01:48 |
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| Dr_willis | but it hasent affected me. so havent paid attentioon. :() | 01:48 |
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| mrtimbo | so how is the second alpha release ? | 01:48 |
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| mrtimbo | i seen it on distrowatch | 01:48 |
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| tolecnal | yup, that's the problem. easy to fix, though, what I find funny is that even though the installer fails, apt still sees the package as installed :) | 01:48 |
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| Dr_willis | I also saw some news that the New Dell Linux machines come with Ubuntu that has the Nvidia drivers, and dvd playback allready installed/included | 01:49 |
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| intelikey | tolecnal nothing odd about that. as far as apt is concerned it is. | 01:49 |
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| intelikey | tolecnal all apt is installing is a script. the script is there. | 01:49 |
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| Smurf-Slayer | If my desktop configuration shows I'm at 1024x768, and the bar won't go to the right, how do I know that ubuntu knows that is as high as it will go? I'm sure it will go higher? | 01:50 |
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| tolecnal | intelikey: well, I can see your point. but you would think there would be some error check involved :) | 01:50 |
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| intelikey | one might say that apt installs the flash installer. | 01:50 |
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| tehm0nk | wait... | 01:50 |
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| tehm0nk | dell sells linux boxes? | 01:50 |
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| intelikey | tehm0nk yes | 01:50 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, yes. :) have for like.. 6 mo? | 01:51 |
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| Dr_willis | they recently started releasing Gutsy Based ones. | 01:51 |
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| tehm0nk | which means they support linux? as in customer support? | 01:51 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, i belive so.. | 01:51 |
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| mrtimbo | yeah | 01:51 |
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| Dr_willis | Not that i can understand what 'support' ever actually does. :P | 01:51 |
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| tehm0nk | must be nice to learn linuz with uber support? | 01:51 |
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| Dr_willis | You dont call up dell and ask how to mount your ipod do ya? :) | 01:51 |
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| Smurf-Slayer | Hi Dr Willis | 01:51 |
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| mrtimbo | support = please restart your computer and refer to manual | 01:51 |
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| intelikey | Dr_willis that's the guy that points you to this channel isn't it ? | 01:51 |
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| tehm0nk | uhm... sometimes you really need someones attention to really get a problem fixed | 01:52 |
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| tehm0nk | and i hate to say it | 01:52 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, also news check out the 400+ Page FREE ubuntu book at --------> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training | 01:52 |
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| tehm0nk | but i'm on Kubuntu cause... #ubuntu was just NUTS. | 01:52 |
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| Dr_willis | intelikey, I think so. :) | 01:52 |
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| Dr_willis | I tend to RTFM. :) and google and read... | 01:52 |
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| * intelikey pets his dell pinguin | 01:52 |
| Dr_willis | Step #1 - learn how to learn, and research the problems. | 01:52 |
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| Dr_willis | I may get a Dell laptop for my next laptop. | 01:53 |
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| Dr_willis | but my current one is doing ok. | 01:53 |
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| downix | Dr_willis: I wouldn't. We bought one, it had the power regulator die | 01:53 |
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| Dr_willis | I hate to buy a laptop with out actually see/feeling it in the store. | 01:53 |
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| tehm0nk | i try to read as much as possible i'm not that bad with computers actually... | 01:53 |
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| downix | $400 for the part, which is not covered under warranty | 01:53 |
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| tehm0nk | built the last 4 that i've owned, the last one was twin loop water cooled... | 01:53 |
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| Dr_willis | downix, given how complex pc's are these days.. im suprused any of them last more then a month. | 01:53 |
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| mrtimbo | I have an acer that i bought at walmart for 700, it had vista home premium, I dual booted for a while and when gusty came out i just erased it and only have kubuntu now | 01:54 |
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| downix | Dr_willis: And yet, my Amiga and Commodore are still chugging.... | 01:54 |
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| Dr_willis | for every company that makes anything.. you can proberly find a few lemons... | 01:54 |
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| Dr_willis | downix, i have a few of those as well. :) | 01:54 |
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| tehm0nk | but my recent problems, even google was spitting garbage about dual videocard setups | 01:54 |
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| Dr_willis | dual video cards? or a single card with 2 video outs? :) 2 video outs is easy. | 01:54 |
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| === johnnyb is now known as cyborjohn |
| downix | Dr_willis: I'm trying to get AROS onto a SPARC, to see what the SPARCmiga would have felt like. (Sun tried to license the Amiga in 1990) | 01:54 |
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| intelikey | mrtimbo yeah shame you can't get your 300 back that went to the vesta license | 01:55 |
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| tehm0nk | yeah 2 8600GTs | 01:55 |
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| Dr_willis | downix, i think everone tried to do everything to the amiga back then.. and well.. lets say that i still cry at times over it all. :) | 01:55 |
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| mrtimbo | no kidding | 01:55 |
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| tehm0nk | and heh i had fun figuring out to NOT use the nvidia-glx drivers... but the -new ones... | 01:55 |
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| === zakame_ is now known as zakame |
| downix | Dr_willis: Indeed. Sun, DEC and HP to name 3 I know off the top of my head. | 01:56 |
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| Dr_willis | using 2 8600's with a monitor on each? Or trying 2 monitors on each? dont they have dual dvi outs? | 01:56 |
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| Dr_willis | downix, and every so often you hear of the amiga revival.. and .. well. it never happens. | 01:56 |
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| downix | Dr_willis: The Amiga community has given up on corporate revivals. The OS is cloned, and now the hardware is too. | 01:57 |
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| tehm0nk | yes | 01:57 |
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| tehm0nk | dual outs | 01:57 |
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| tehm0nk | but... | 01:57 |
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| Dr_willis | downix, i do recall some "OS" that was a lot like the amiga OS. but ran on top of a primary OS. But i can never rember its name. :) it even had things like diskname: and stuff: and lib: | 01:57 |
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| tehm0nk | 1 on each | 01:57 |
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| tehm0nk | i *could* quad monitor... but uh nty | 01:57 |
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| downix | Dr_willis: AROS, and it's now native on x86 and PowerPC. | 01:58 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, what are you doing that actually needs that much video card? :) | 01:58 |
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| tehm0nk | actually.... | 01:58 |
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| Dr_willis | downix, it used to be non-native? perhaps tahts what im thinking of. | 01:58 |
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| tehm0nk | Dual monitor setups and gaming SUCK unless you dual card... | 01:58 |
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| tehm0nk | i Doubled my FPS in wow by putting in the second and putting the other screen on it... | 01:58 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, im trying to think of any games that actually support dial moniotrs.. but then again. I dont do MMORPGS.. | 01:59 |
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| tehm0nk | (i actually bought it to do SLI until i found you CANT SLI + dual monitor) | 01:59 |
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| downix | Dr_willis: Yes, it still can run hosted on Linux as well. A lot of people run it that way for compiling. http://www.aros.org | 01:59 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 01:59 |
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| tehm0nk | the point isn't have dual monitors for the GAME | 01:59 |
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| === cyborjohn is now known as johnnyb |
| downix | I loved my triple monitor Doom setup | 01:59 |
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| tehm0nk | but ... one monitor for stuff like thottbot.com to look up quests and stuff haha | 01:59 |
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| === johnnyb is now known as cyborjohn |
| tehm0nk | wth triple doom? | 02:00 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, Hmm thotbot.. an stuff.. I rember why i quit wow now. | 02:00 |
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| intelikey | triple doom 3D ? | 02:00 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, I do know a lot of people that have a 2nd pc just for that stuff. :) | 02:00 |
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| tehm0nk | why's that? | 02:00 |
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| downix | tehm0nk: You could network 3 systems together, and have each of them running the same game, but one looking forward, one right and one left, gave you a 270 degree field of view. | 02:00 |
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| Dr_willis | everquest addicts with 5 pc's in one room. | 02:00 |
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| tehm0nk | yeah my buddy said... "I'm gonna but a really cheap lap-top and name it 'Thottbot'" | 02:01 |
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| tehm0nk | i about died laughing... | 02:01 |
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| intelikey | Dr_willis i resemble that remark ! | 02:01 |
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| downix | Um.... | 02:01 |
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| * downix looks at his setup | 02:01 |
| downix | 2 PC's, 2 SPARCs and a C64..... | 02:01 |
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| intelikey | downix yeah. you hold him and i'll kick him. | 02:02 |
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| downix | hehehe | 02:02 |
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| downix | not counting the 3rd PC I use as a DVD player | 02:02 |
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| intelikey | or the gateway that serves as a router | 02:03 |
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| downix | forgot that one | 02:03 |
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| haskear | why does firefox lock up so often? :( | 02:03 |
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| * intelikey was talking about his own... | 02:03 |
| downix | hehe | 02:03 |
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| intelikey | haskear cause it's junk ? | 02:04 |
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| Alchera | g'day ... started receiving an interesting message when i run ksystemlog >> You do not have sufficient permissions to read '/var/log/syslog' | 02:04 |
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| Alchera | was ok until last night | 02:04 |
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| haskear | intelikey it never does it on xp | 02:04 |
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| intelikey | haskear no it's xp that crashes insteed. | 02:05 |
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| intelikey | no i really don't know. | 02:05 |
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| cyberlounge | ??? | 02:06 |
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| intelikey | Alchera did you update any software sense ? | 02:06 |
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| cyberlounge | hay alguien? | 02:06 |
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| Alchera | installed NUT is that's any help .. a nighmare as well lol | 02:06 |
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| ardchoille | !es | cyberlounge | 02:06 |
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| ubotu | cyberlounge: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. | 02:06 |
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| Alchera | but nothing should really have caused it | 02:07 |
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| Alchera | currently perms etc are root:root -rw-r | 02:08 |
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| intelikey | Alchera -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 519637 Dec 14 20:36 /mnt/hda2/var/log/syslog <<< looks like it's naturally readable. what's yours ? | 02:08 |
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| intelikey | Alchera you mean -rw-r----- ? | 02:09 |
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| LjL | intelikey: -rw-r----- is what it ought to be | 02:10 |
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| intelikey | LjL i haven't altered that one. | 02:10 |
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| intelikey | that's ubuntu default | 02:10 |
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| LjL | intelikey: well, it's like that here | 02:10 |
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| intelikey | dapper release | 02:10 |
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| LjL | intelikey: mine is an upgrade from Edgy though | 02:10 |
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| LjL | ah. uhm | 02:10 |
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| ardchoille | Mine is a Guts install (no upgrade) -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 2.9K 2007-12-22 17:53 /var/log/syslog | 02:11 |
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| ardchoille | *Gutsy | 02:11 |
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| Alchera | mine allows owner & group to read | 02:11 |
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| intelikey | LjL and judging by his complaint. i'd say his was -rw-r--r-- until yesterday | 02:11 |
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| intelikey | Alchera wait. look at the ownership. ardchoille's example. | 02:12 |
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| intelikey | that would let adm group read it. | 02:12 |
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| Alchera | syslog adm | 02:13 |
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| intelikey | check your groups | 02:13 |
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| Alchera | am using fiesty | 02:13 |
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| Alchera | i have root & adm in my list of thingies | 02:13 |
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| intelikey | "list of thingies" ? groups ? | 02:14 |
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| Alchera | groups lol | 02:14 |
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| Alchera | sorry .. that was meant for dalnet | 02:14 |
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| intelikey | oh it's a dalnet thang i C++ | 02:15 |
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| Dr_willis | dalnet people cant handle the high-tech-terms. :) | 02:15 |
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| Alchera | adm:x:4:alchera admin:x:118:alchera root:x:0:alchera | 02:15 |
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| Alchera | i use "thingie" a lot on there lol | 02:15 |
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| * intelikey refers to the pointy clicky thingy some times... | 02:16 |
| Alchera | hahaha | 02:16 |
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| ardchoille | Alchera: Why are you in root's group? | 02:17 |
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| Dr_willis | PC 101 Class: 'use the Mouse thinngie with your hand thinggie. and your finger thinggie to thinggye the mouse' | 02:17 |
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| Alchera | i actually have no idea LOL | 02:17 |
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| ardchoille | Dr_willis: You missed a "whatsit" | 02:17 |
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| Alchera | i am assuming something screwed when adding nut group user to myself and root | 02:17 |
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| intelikey | yep | 02:18 |
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| * Dr_willis puts the mouse on the floor and uses it as a Pedal. | 02:18 |
| Dr_willis | :) | 02:18 |
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| ardchoille | Alchera: What was the exact comand you used for that? | 02:18 |
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| Alchera | adduser root nut | 02:18 |
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| intelikey | sure it wasn't addgroup ? | 02:19 |
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| Alchera | finding an enlightened how-to for that program was a dead end | 02:19 |
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| Alchera | i'll check | 02:19 |
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| intelikey | grep root ~/.bash_history | 02:19 |
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| Dr_willis | !info nut | 02:20 |
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| ubotu | nut: The core system of the nut - Network UPS Tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.5-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1066 kB, installed size 2584 kB | 02:20 |
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| intelikey | that assumes bash but in ubuntu it's a fairly safe assumption | 02:20 |
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| Alchera | adduser root nut | 02:20 |
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| Alchera | i never picked that up | 02:20 |
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| Alchera | i just checked the page i followed .. same >> adduser | 02:21 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as ubuntu_ |
| Alchera | but i then started again using the official docs ... and it seems i may not have undone a couple of things | 02:23 |
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| intelikey | if i'm understanding the man page "adduser root nut" would add the root user with the nut group ! ( adduser [options] user group ) | 02:23 |
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| Alchera | yup | 02:24 |
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| intelikey | which is not what you wan't. root already existed | 02:24 |
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| Alchera | tell me about it lol | 02:24 |
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| happytiger | which channel do I ask kde4 kubuntu related questions?? | 02:24 |
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| intelikey | happytiger this one prolly. but not me. | 02:25 |
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| happytiger | lol | 02:25 |
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| happytiger | Oki | 02:25 |
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| happytiger | So here we go | 02:25 |
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| Alchera | ok ... i do need the nut user & group .. and have added the nut group to myself | 02:25 |
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| happytiger | In KDE4 rc2 kubuntu i use nvidia-settings to change the resolution of my screen to 1600x1200 but it is stuck at 1280x1024. If i switch it using nvidia-settings it changes resolution but only the 12080x1034 part of the screen has the desktop the rest of the areas is grey and when I drag windoiws there they garble | 02:27 |
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| intelikey | i have always just used useradd which predates adduser and is standardized | 02:28 |
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| Alchera | k.. just removed root from me (not sure how that got there anyway) | 02:28 |
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| happytiger | Even saving asking nvidia-setttings to save /etc/X11/org.conf and reboot renders me back in 1280x1024 | 02:28 |
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| intelikey | you don't typo as much when actually doing the configurating do you ? if so then that's the problem. | 02:29 |
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| intelikey | @ happytiger | 02:29 |
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| happytiger | lol | 02:30 |
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| intelikey | 12080x1034 two there... /etc/X11/org.conf one there... | 02:30 |
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| intelikey | there are more. | 02:30 |
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| * intelikey is or at least was typo king in here. | 02:31 |
| happytiger | i removed all other resolutions other than 1600x1200 from my xorg.conf | 02:31 |
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| intelikey | i'll have to abdocate if you stay... | 02:31 |
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| happytiger | and rebootet | 02:31 |
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| intelikey | ^ | 02:31 |
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| happytiger | lol | 02:31 |
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| intelikey | happytiger and the results were ? | 02:32 |
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| happytiger | 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 | 02:33 |
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| intelikey | LjL or Dr_willis you guys help this fellow. | 02:34 |
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| intelikey | i'm way to out of date with the LTS to help on a gutsy | 02:34 |
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| happytiger | Also one other thing bugs me. I fuxored the colour settings of my good old kde 3.5.8 gutsy ... So if I want clean slate on it for my user can I just delte ~/.kde dir completly to get rid of all old setting? And then login again and kde will generate new .kde with standard settings????? | 02:34 |
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| intelikey | happytiger yes and no. you need to nuke ~/.kderc also i think | 02:35 |
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| Alchera | think it's all solved ... set syslog (and its archives) >> -rw-r--r-- root root | 02:35 |
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| uoaphys | wtf i wonder why they didn't put all of it in ~/.etc | 02:35 |
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| happytiger | oki so kille those to and it will generate all new default when I login again? | 02:36 |
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| intelikey | Alchera that's what dappers was naturally | 02:36 |
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| happytiger | to = two | 02:36 |
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| intelikey | Alchera so it shouldn't cause any problem. | 02:36 |
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| Alchera | unless it develops a mind of its' own lol | 02:36 |
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| intelikey | happytiger yes. | 02:36 |
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| happytiger | :-) lol thx | 02:36 |
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| intelikey | Alchera that's called "just works" in the ubuntu realmn | 02:37 |
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| Alchera | :) | 02:37 |
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| Alchera | and dmesg | tail shows that i (apparently) have NUT setup properly | 02:38 |
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| Alchera | [18382.780000] usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 | 02:38 |
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| Alchera | [18382.960000] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice | 02:38 |
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| Alchera | [20207.688000] usb 1-2: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usbfs while 'bcmxcp_usb' sets config #1 | 02:38 |
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| happytiger | So how soon does one dare to switch to Kubuntu Hardy Alpha 2 does it still crash daily or far along is it? | 02:38 |
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| intelikey | crap. shots fired. | 02:39 |
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| BluesKaj | 'evening all | 02:40 |
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| happytiger | :-) | 02:40 |
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| mrtimbo | i think they have a live disk happytiger | 02:40 |
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| ctothej | I want to set up a RAID 1 volume for Media that can be read/written to in a multi-boot environment. Is this possible with software based RAID? Is fakeRAID the way to go? I have RAID capability in my mobo (not full hardware managed RAID though). | 02:46 |
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| === soulrider_ is now known as soulrider |
| clintc_home | When I start konqueror, I get two blank tabs... anyone know how to get back to the default behavior? | 03:07 |
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| purpleposeidon | hallo, how do I change what command is run when my laptop runs out of battery? | 03:07 |
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| sfears | where do i set up display thru my svideo cable? | 03:10 |
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| BluesKaj | sfears, in or out ? | 03:10 |
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| sfears | out | 03:11 |
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| sfears | tv display | 03:11 |
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| purpleposeidon | sfears: have you looked in system settings? | 03:11 |
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| Alchera | clintc_home: tried resetting your view? | 03:12 |
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| sfears | which system setting? | 03:12 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: no...how do I go about doing that? | 03:13 |
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| Alchera | you don't have a menu at the top ? | 03:13 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: yes, there is a menu at the top | 03:13 |
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| Alchera | click on View | 03:14 |
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| giuseppe | Hi, can I use kopete to connect myself with msn contacts???? | 03:14 |
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| Alchera | yes | 03:14 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: ok, what next | 03:15 |
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| Alchera | try view mode clintc_home .. fiddle and see what happens | 03:15 |
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| sparr | since installing the mythbuntu packages (which i never managed to get working), i have mythbuntu startup and shutdown and login screens. how can i get my kubuntu stuff back? | 03:15 |
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| Alchera | if all that fails just simply delete .kde/share/apps/konqueror | 03:15 |
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| giuseppe | Alchera: I have a problem when I try to connect with my msn profile | 03:16 |
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| Alchera | and restart konqueror | 03:16 |
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| sparr | giuseppe: yes | 03:16 |
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| Alchera | i use Kopete with msn & icq .. no dramas | 03:16 |
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| giuseppe | sparr: can you help me? | 03:16 |
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| sparr | giuseppe: tools, settings, accounts, new, MSN Messenger, your msn account info | 03:17 |
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| giuseppe | sparr: already done, but when I try to launch kopete appears a form | 03:17 |
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| giuseppe | sparr: The application 'kopete' has requested access to the open wallet 'kdewallet'. | 03:17 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: we are on to something here... when trying to view with khtml I get an error message that says: Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol ". | 03:18 |
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| giuseppe | sparr: what does it means? | 03:18 |
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| sparr | giuseppe: it means your msn password was stored in your kde wallet. most kde apps store passwords there. its probably asking for the wallet password? | 03:18 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: given that do you still recommend the delete | 03:18 |
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| tl2686 | hey all | 03:19 |
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| se7en | somebody know how i can check if the build in bluetooth on my laptop is realy started because i can't see my nokia phone with bluetooth2 | 03:19 |
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| Alchera | i think it might be an idea clintc_home ... you're not deleting konqueror itself | 03:19 |
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| tl2686 | googled this question with no luck: | 03:19 |
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| sfears | is there an nvidia system setting somewhere to change svideo settings? | 03:20 |
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| sparr | se7en: id start with lspci and lsusb | 03:20 |
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| giuseppe | sparr: I see. But then appears: the KDE crash handler | 03:20 |
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| se7en | sparr: i used lspci | grep blue* with no luck | 03:20 |
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| tl2686 | If I back up files from a virus infected windoze box (pics, music, word files...) and then install kubuntu on said box and copy those files over.... | 03:21 |
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| sparr | giuseppe: thats bad. try searching ubuntu bugs on kopete, then try kde's own bug tracker, then id suggest #kde | 03:21 |
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| giuseppe | sparr: the application kopete crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV | 03:21 |
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| tl2686 | am I risking damage to the external or the linux box? | 03:21 |
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| sparr | tl2686: no | 03:21 |
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| sparr | tl2686: afaik, no non-executable virus forms on windows are a danger on linux | 03:22 |
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| tl2686 | sparr: Sweet! Thanks! I'm setting up a buntu box for my father. FINALLY convinced him to try *nix... | 03:24 |
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| sparr | cool | 03:25 |
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| se7en | why do i get d-kined or k-lined in allmost all chat rooms including #kubuntu when i connect my laptop with my moblie phone using it as a gprs modem | 03:25 |
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| sparr | se7en: you don't get "d-lined" or "k-lined" from rooms. those terms apply to whole servers. and you should read the messages. | 03:25 |
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| BluesKaj | se7en, you may be flooding the server with unwanted data thet is seen as spam | 03:27 |
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| Alchera | there's actually a reason for that se7en which escapes me atm .. chat to an ircop | 03:27 |
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| se7en | sparr yes sorry server the massage is you are d-lined trying to reconect and that goes on for ever ... no problem here with adsl | 03:27 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: ok, I can see this is a settings directory for konq... when you say delete it do you mean the whole directory or the contents of the directory 'konqueror' | 03:28 |
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| se7en | Alchera: where would i find a ircop for this kubuntu | 03:29 |
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| BluesKaj | delete konq and you delete kubuntu-desktop | 03:29 |
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| BluesKaj | it all goes | 03:29 |
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| purpleposeidon | se7en: #freenode | 03:29 |
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| Alchera | se7en: freenode ircop | 03:29 |
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| purpleposeidon | se7en: be nice. :P | 03:29 |
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| se7en | :) | 03:30 |
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| Alchera | it's possibly something to do with identd .. you should read the message | 03:30 |
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| sparr | se7en: its possible the entire isp is blocked. probable, even | 03:30 |
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| clintc_home | BluesKaj: we are talking about deleting .kde/share/apps/konqueror not konq itself | 03:30 |
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| Alchera | clintc_home: it's only a data folder .. just close konqueror .. delete that directory and reload | 03:31 |
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| BluesKaj | clintc_home, good | 03:31 |
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| Alchera | it then should be ok | 03:31 |
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| BluesKaj | just checking | 03:31 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: ok... here goes | 03:31 |
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| Alchera | i have to do it with amarok when it screws up .. and tbird | 03:31 |
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| sparr | Alchera: i havent had to delete a settings folder in over 2 years, using kubuntu and before that debian+kde... you should look into why they are getting screwed up | 03:32 |
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| Alchera | amarok once (so far) and it's apparently not abnormal ... tbird soon as it does have dramas according to what i have read | 03:33 |
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| sparr | ive had a similar problem with tbird on windows, but never on linux | 03:33 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: that did fix it.. one other thing that I was hoping would get fixed along with this but did not... when I click a link in konversation I get a bouncing konq icon, processor maxes out, konq eventually dies | 03:34 |
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| === nightfire is now known as nitefire |
| Alchera | current "problem" is it crashes when doing a hyperlink in an email | 03:34 |
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| Alchera | i don't use konversation clintc_home .. so i really have no idea | 03:34 |
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| clintc_home | I think this would be links from anywhere but I'm not sure | 03:35 |
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| Alchera | maybe make sure that another instance isn't still running ? | 03:35 |
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| nitefire | . | 03:35 |
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| inaety | hello, for some reason amaroK started saying that my sound device is busy and there are xine parameters. how can i fix this without rebooting | 03:35 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: no.. this works fine on my computer at work... seems to be a problem handing the link to konq | 03:36 |
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| clintc_home | and I usually have several konq processes going there | 03:36 |
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| Alchera | okies clintc_home .... i don't use it so really cannot help with that | 03:36 |
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| BluesKaj | clintc_home, you've tried setting the default browser : sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser | 03:37 |
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| Alchera | is it still doing it now that you have fixed the other? | 03:37 |
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| clintc_home | BluesKaj: have not tried that | 03:37 |
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| clintc_home | Alchera: yes | 03:37 |
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| Alchera | BluesKaj seems to have the answer :) | 03:37 |
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| clintc_home | BluesKaj: trying now | 03:37 |
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| Alchera | i only use konqueror for drive browsing | 03:38 |
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| Alchera | sparr: we've had the odd power failure and always in the middle of my doing something .. ungraceful exists definitely cause dramas .. which is why i finally got a UPS last thursday | 03:39 |
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| nitefire | anybody here using Open Office with a Conexant HSF Fax Modem to do faxing ? | 03:39 |
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| BluesKaj | that command sets the browser globally...well usually :) | 03:39 |
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| clintc_home | BluesKaj: ok, done.. selected konq... I'm going to have to kill x to get out of this hang | 03:40 |
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| clintc_home | bbim | 03:41 |
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| clintc_home | BluesKaj: unfortunately, that did not fix the problem | 03:43 |
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| BluesKaj | dunno. maybe you have to config konq , not sure | 03:44 |
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| clintc_home | to recp: click link in konversation, mouse becomes rapid bounce konq icon, xorg pegs cpu at 100 percent | 03:44 |
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| BluesKaj | I'm nodding off here , sorry , gonna hit the sack...won't be much help anyway , nite all | 03:45 |
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| clintc_home | BluesKaj: thank you | 03:45 |
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| kirk | hello? | 03:46 |
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| wangwentao | 有人么 | 03:56 |
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| bazhang | !cn | wangwentao | 03:57 |
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| ubotu | wangwentao: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk | 03:57 |
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| bazhang | !hi | kirk | 03:57 |
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| ubotu | kirk: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! | 03:57 |
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| wangwentao | 呵呵 终于有人了 | 03:58 |
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| bazhang | wangwentao: this is an English channel | 03:58 |
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| Hirvinen | !ch | wangwentao | 03:59 |
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| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 03:59 |
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| wangwentao | oh i am sorry | 03:59 |
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| bazhang | no worries | 04:00 |
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| Hirvinen | !cn | wangwentao | 04:00 |
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| ubotu | wangwentao: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk | 04:00 |
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| wangwentao | thank you | 04:00 |
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| Hirvinen | Grrt. Too few rows visible on the Nokia 9500 screen. Sorry. | 04:01 |
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| Olde | how do I make the icons in Thunar all pretty instead of bland | 04:02 |
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| Olde | they still look like they did in Gnome | 04:03 |
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| bazhang | thunar with Kubuntu? | 04:03 |
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| Olde | yes | 04:03 |
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| Olde | isn't thunar the default file manager for kubuntu? | 04:04 |
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| hydrogen | no | 04:05 |
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| Olde | k, which one is | 04:05 |
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| hydrogen | dolphin | 04:05 |
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| Olde | ok so how do I set the default to dolphin | 04:05 |
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| ardchoille | dolphin - kde, nautilus - gnome, thunar - xfce | 04:05 |
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| ardchoille | !dolphin | 04:05 |
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| ubotu | Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin. | 04:05 |
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| Olde | weird, ok | 04:07 |
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| Olde | thanks | 04:07 |
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| se7en | how can i check if my on board bluetooth is working | 04:08 |
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| Dr_willis | try connecting to your cell phone? | 04:09 |
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| se7en | Dr_willis: :) that's exactly what i try to do and can't ... | 04:10 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: are u there? | 04:10 |
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| se7en | so i was guessing either kubuntu has problems with bluetooth2 or my laptops on board bluetooth is not working Dr_willis | 04:11 |
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| Dr_willis | I havent messed with the bluetooth stuff in ages. | 04:12 |
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| Dr_willis | I do recall editing some pin file in /etc/ ages ago | 04:12 |
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| Dr_willis | !bluetooth | 04:12 |
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| ubotu | For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup | 04:12 |
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| se7en | Dr_willis: lspci | grep blue* should find my bluetooth device or? | 04:13 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: I am | 04:13 |
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| Dr_willis | No idea. I dont have one to test.. and the ones i did have were USB based. so not sure if they show on lspci or not. | 04:14 |
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| BrOSs | which is the page for the kubuntu/ubunty forum? | 04:15 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: Ubuntu forums? | 04:15 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: yeah | 04:15 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: http://ubuntuforums.org | 04:15 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: some day before u gave me a page | 04:15 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: let me see if that is the one | 04:16 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: The kubuntu forums are at a different location, tho | 04:16 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: that was the page I was looking for, tks man | 04:19 |
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| ardchoille | yw | 04:20 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: man.. i got a big mess, 3 days ago I posted my question in the forum, but just one guy tried to help me and didn't work | 04:27 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: What's the problem? | 04:28 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: i'm gonna try to explain myself, my english is not the best.. so, pls waitme | 04:29 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: I'm English.. and my English isn't the best :) | 04:29 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: when I boot the system.. there are like 6 different option to choose | 04:30 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: What are the choices? | 04:31 |
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| BrOSs | 4 are kubuntu 7.10 with their respective recovery mode | 04:32 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: one is kubuntu 7.10 also but spanish version | 04:32 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: finally, is windows vista recovery | 04:32 |
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| ardchoille | That does sound like a mess. | 04:32 |
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| BrOSs | =/ | 04:32 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: it is man.. | 04:33 |
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| sfears | do i need to play with my xorg.conf file to get video out on svideo.. or is there a gui panel i can play with? | 04:33 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: the sony vaio recovery boot isn't working | 04:33 |
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| ardchoille | Unfortunately, I don't know how to help with that. Al of my computers have only one OS on them. | 04:33 |
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| ardchoille | *all | 04:33 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: it says that the partition is gone | 04:33 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: i want to do this.. format every partition, erase all the kubuntu versions and install winxp, then install kubuntu 7.10 again over winxp | 04:35 |
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| ardchoille | !dualboot | 04:36 |
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| ubotu | Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot | 04:36 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: ^^ | 04:36 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: zup? | 04:36 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: See the dualboot post by ubotu, that is the info you need for setting up a Win/Kubuntu system | 04:37 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: haha I'm dany | 04:37 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: do u remember? | 04:37 |
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| ardchoille | BrOSs: yes | 04:37 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: x) thks 4tha help.. | 04:38 |
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| ardchoille | yw :) | 04:38 |
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| BrOSs | ardchoille: by the way.. where're u from? | 04:38 |
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| sundar | need help with ktorrent... | 04:41 |
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| sundar | it does not seem to be seeding at all!! though upload happens for torrents that are downloading...there is no upload while seeding....not sure what the problem is... | 04:42 |
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| Dr_willis | Hmm.. That sounds like that ISP Blocking Torrent thing i heard about a few weeks ago | 04:50 |
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| Dr_willis | actually that sounds EXACTLY like what i rember | 04:51 |
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| awag22 | comcast? | 04:51 |
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| Dr_willis | as a test - you could try some other torrent client to see if it also works. | 04:51 |
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| Dr_willis | I think insight here. is now owned by comcast also.. that will suck. | 04:51 |
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| Dr_willis | Yep. GOt a letter in the mail. Insight is soon to be owned by comcast. :( | 04:52 |
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| surgy | has anyone here ever used innotek virtual box? or is there a seperate channel for it? | 04:57 |
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| Dr_willis | Ive used it befor. | 04:58 |
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| Dr_willis | and Yes. theres proberly its own channel here some where. :) | 04:59 |
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| surgy | well im having a few driver difficulties | 04:59 |
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| surgy | :) | 04:59 |
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| surgy | then i will not talk off topic here if it bothers you guys, but i do need help | 04:59 |
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| Thingus | Okay, so this is annoying. | 05:00 |
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| Thingus | I'm trying to watch videos on Stage6.com, a video sharing site similar to YouTube. It says, "For Linux support try Mplayer." I have mozilla-mplayer installed, but Firefox still tells me I'm missing a plugin. Any ideas? | 05:01 |
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| === scott_ is now known as Sylphid |
| tehm0nk | !compiz | 05:02 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 05:02 |
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| Dr_willis | I use stage6 all the time. :) | 05:02 |
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| Dr_willis | you need hmm.. let me check. | 05:02 |
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| Dr_willis | totem-plugin-viewer - is what i seem to be using | 05:03 |
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| Sylphid | how can i use the output of a command in the syntax of another command on the same line? | 05:03 |
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| Dr_willis | and of course I proberly got the w32codec stuff installed.. not sure what else | 05:03 |
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| Dr_willis | command1 | commandd2 | 05:03 |
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| Sylphid | thats not quite what im looking for | 05:03 |
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| ardchoille | Sylphid: That's called piping | 05:03 |
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| Dr_willis | or ya mean command1 $(commmd2) | 05:03 |
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| Dr_willis | echo $(ls) | 05:04 |
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| Dr_willis | I think i got that rught. | 05:04 |
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| Sylphid | kk ill try that ty | 05:04 |
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| Dr_willis | the $() is also seen as using the BACKTICK. ` ` ` ` :) but thats not as readable | 05:04 |
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| Dr_willis | But a lot of older docs/guides use the backtick. | 05:04 |
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| Dr_willis | or backquote, or whatever ya want to call it. | 05:05 |
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| Sylphid | that did the trick Dr_willis ty much | 05:05 |
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| Dr_willis | Bash Basics 101 :) | 05:06 |
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| Thingus | BACKTICK is supposed to be depreciated by a lot of shells, anyway. | 05:06 |
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| Dr_willis | Yea - its really easy to missread and books often missprint it. | 05:06 |
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| Dr_willis | Hmm.. the 6 yr old - is beating all the adults at Bowling on the Wii.... :) | 05:10 |
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| Dr_willis | Except for the remote he tossed behind the tv.. hes doing real good. | 05:10 |
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| ganjamaniac | high | 05:15 |
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| ganjamaniac | i need a traffic shaper with 0conf | 05:15 |
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| Dr_willis | Both are things ive never messed with.. sorry. | 05:18 |
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| dsmith_ | lol Dr Willis | 05:19 |
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| Dr_willis | I sort of. kind of,, almost. know wht zeroconf does. :) | 05:19 |
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| Dr_willis | I just dont think i have anything that actually uses it. :) | 05:20 |
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| dsmith_ | I was laughing at tossing the wii | 05:20 |
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| Dr_willis | dsmith_, :) yep.. darn kid. tossed the remote right over, behind the tv | 05:20 |
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| maduser | hehe | 05:20 |
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| Dr_willis | he was small enough he could go get it. I gotta go buy some of those rubber bumpper things for it tomorrow | 05:20 |
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| maduser | strap broke? | 05:20 |
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| Dr_willis | IS there a better game then Bowling> | 05:20 |
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| Dr_willis | Strap..! bah! who needs that.. :) Well.. he does.. | 05:21 |
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| Dr_willis | then the wife almost gives me a black eye.. she had the strap on at least. | 05:21 |
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| maduser | oh god what did she do? | 05:21 |
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| ardchoille | !ot | 05:22 |
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| ubotu | #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! | 05:22 |
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| dsmith_ | ok no more wii talk | 05:22 |
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| dsmith_ | ;p; | 05:22 |
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| * maduser sighs | 05:23 |
| Dr_willis | like i said.. she swung and about knocked me out. :) Hmm IS the wii actually using Linux? I seem to recall that rumor.. | 05:23 |
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| maduser | But no ones on the offtopic channel | 05:23 |
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| Dr_willis | Or was that just a 'wii linux' project? | 05:23 |
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| dsmith_ | wii linux hmmm | 05:23 |
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| maduser | ipod liunx | 05:23 |
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| Thingus | There is a Wii Linux project, that I've heard of. | 05:24 |
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| Thingus | www.wiili.org is one such site. | 05:24 |
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| ganjamaniac | yeah so you can see a marlino | 05:24 |
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| ganjamaniac | and a luigix | 05:24 |
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| === Kubuntu is now known as BoBaFeTT |
| Dr_willis | People ask at work. whats so impressive about Linux.. the sort of get baffled when i tell them that it can run on a Nintendo DS, and Wii and PS3 and PS2.. and.... :) | 05:25 |
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| ganjamaniac | legends of zeltux | 05:25 |
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| Dr_willis | well at least you can get the basics of it to run. :) | 05:25 |
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| dsmith_ | I tell them it gives you full control over your system | 05:25 |
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| dsmith_ | dont like the way something looks, change it | 05:26 |
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| maduser | don't mess with xorg.conf | 05:26 |
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| dsmith_ | haha duh | 05:26 |
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| maduser | they would have to block it in the wii | 05:27 |
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| maduser | or they would get alot of complaints | 05:27 |
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| dsmith_ | my system still locks up if I am away from it after like 45-mins | 05:28 |
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| dsmith_ | the window titlebar disappears.. and then you cannot click on anything | 05:28 |
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| dsmith_ | *shrug* | 05:28 |
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| Dr_willis | Using compiz? | 05:29 |
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| dsmith_ | no | 05:29 |
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| dsmith_ | I did try to implement that sometime ago, but to my memory it was doing it before I tried installing it | 05:29 |
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| Dr_willis | sort of sounds like a video card driver issue. | 05:29 |
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| dsmith_ | could be | 05:29 |
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| dsmith_ | its an oldr laptop I am not that worried about it.. | 05:30 |
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| dsmith_ | ati 9200 | 05:30 |
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| dsmith_ | i set it to start in verbose as it would just have a blank screen, no splash | 05:30 |
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| Dr_willis | if its doing it on a regular (testable) basis you could try like the vesa or some other driver. | 05:30 |
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| dsmith_ | everything else works out of box. I am not complaining | 05:30 |
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| Dr_willis | that would let ya prove its some how ati related. | 05:31 |
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| dsmith_ | yea, after ~45 mins it locks up when I step away from it | 05:31 |
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| dsmith_ | hmmm | 05:31 |
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| Dr_willis | could be some sort of pic/apci/ sort of issue also. | 05:31 |
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| Dr_willis | step away - a interesting clue. | 05:31 |
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| dsmith_ | someone mentioned the apci issue beforehand | 05:31 |
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| Dr_willis | as long as you twiddle with it.. it works.. you leave it alone - locks up. | 05:31 |
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| Dr_willis | That does sound like a powersaving thing, or similer. | 05:32 |
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| dsmith_ | thats what I was thinking | 05:32 |
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| dsmith_ | I have powersaving turned off | 05:32 |
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| Dr_willis | could be something in the laptop bios, could also try the noapci, kernel optuiion | 05:32 |
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| Dr_willis | that will really really hurt your battery life i bet. | 05:32 |
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| dsmith_ | i can run this for about 4 hours | 05:33 |
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| Dr_willis | thats impressive. | 05:33 |
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| dsmith_ | at least I can adjust the screen brightness | 05:33 |
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| dsmith_ | yea | 05:33 |
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| dsmith_ | and wireless works | 05:33 |
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| Dr_willis | those new Asus EEE's i think only get 2 or so hrs. | 05:33 |
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| dsmith_ | I could care less if it acts funcky a bit | 05:33 |
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| dsmith_ | heh, I saw that | 05:34 |
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| dsmith_ | I intend to replace this drive with a ssd | 05:34 |
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| dsmith_ | mtron makes the fastest | 05:34 |
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| dsmith_ | thier not cheap though | 05:34 |
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| Dr_willis | Yep. the fact they are getting affordable is a good sign. :) | 05:34 |
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| dsmith_ | I'll wait another year | 05:35 |
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| Dr_willis | I need a new HD for my laptop.. but its not worth the $100 or so investment r for my needs | 05:35 |
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| ganjamaniac | ok what should i try to install? | 05:35 |
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| dsmith_ | its fun taking a P3 machine and install *buntu and giving it back to someone to use | 05:35 |
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| ganjamaniac | shapermeow? | 05:35 |
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| dsmith_ | ganjamaniac: ? | 05:35 |
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| ganjamaniac | or shaperwuff? | 05:35 |
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| dsmith_ | shaperchirp | 05:36 |
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| Dr_willis | shapermoo ! | 05:36 |
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| ganjamaniac | a traffic shaper, it just needs to shape ack's | 05:36 |
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| Dr_willis | :) | 05:36 |
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| dsmith_ | lol | 05:36 |
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| tehm0nk | sup people | 05:36 |
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| dsmith_ | ACK, thats like Invaders from Mars speak | 05:36 |
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| dsmith_ | sup | 05:36 |
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| ganjamaniac | acknowledgments , at first priority | 05:37 |
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| Dr_willis | Awk Awk! Sed! ... Grep grep! | 05:37 |
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| tehm0nk | so are any of you traders and on ubuntu? | 05:37 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 05:37 |
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| Dr_willis | Traders? | 05:37 |
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| ganjamaniac | blah | 05:37 |
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| tehm0nk | *traitors | 05:37 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 05:37 |
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| Invertigo | lol | 05:37 |
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| dsmith_ | im on many *buntu's | 05:37 |
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| Invertigo | I like my KDE... :P | 05:37 |
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| tehm0nk | dsmith_: how good are you with ubuntu? | 05:38 |
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| dsmith_ | I prefer kde | 05:38 |
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| tehm0nk | i wanted to try out avant.... | 05:38 |
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| dsmith_ | I deployed over 50+ machines | 05:38 |
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| Dr_willis | If i install Kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, geubuntu-desktop, geos-dfeskttop and MythBuntu - does that count as 1 or 5? | 05:38 |
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| Dr_willis | or was it 6? :) | 05:38 |
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| dsmith_ | geos yuck | 05:38 |
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| tehm0nk | dsmith_: were any of those dual video card + dual monitor? | 05:38 |
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| dsmith_ | geubuntu *shrug* | 05:38 |
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| dsmith_ | no | 05:38 |
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| Dr_willis | or whatever they call that GoS thang. :) | 05:38 |
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| tehm0nk | MythBuntu? | 05:38 |
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| tehm0nk | wtf? | 05:38 |
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| dsmith_ | need a dual head card | 05:38 |
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| dsmith_ | and edit your xorg | 05:39 |
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| Dr_willis | Mythtv=ubuntu | 05:39 |
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| Dr_willis | Mythtv+ubuntu | 05:39 |
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| Dr_willis | :) i mean | 05:39 |
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| dsmith_ | one of these days I will do that | 05:39 |
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| tehm0nk | dsmith_: i have 2 dual head cards, and 2 monitors | 05:39 |
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| tehm0nk | dual-heading on one monitor = performance LOSS | 05:39 |
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| dsmith_ | you should only need one card | 05:39 |
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| tehm0nk | i dont know why that doesn't sink in to people. | 05:39 |
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| dsmith_ | howcome? | 05:40 |
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| dsmith_ | hmmm nm I thinkI understand now | 05:40 |
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| tehm0nk | if you throw a Graphic intense app on one screen | 05:40 |
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| tehm0nk | the other will lag | 05:40 |
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| tehm0nk | with two cards... | 05:40 |
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| tehm0nk | that wont happen | 05:40 |
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| dsmith_ | yea, that makes sense now I am thinking about it | 05:40 |
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| Dr_willis | The things people bend over backwards to do.. :) | 05:40 |
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| dsmith_ | lol | 05:40 |
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| tehm0nk | in windows i can run WoW @ 45 fps (with all the uber settings) and have the other monitor open browsing the net :-P | 05:41 |
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| Dr_willis | Ive seen way too many arguments about sli/dual card/montitors and so forth. to even want to get this started | 05:41 |
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| dsmith_ | hmmm I have seena few dual haed cards on windows pc, those never lagged | 05:41 |
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| dsmith_ | but thats another OS | 05:41 |
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| tehm0nk | before i put my second video card in, that was like 14-20 fps... | 05:41 |
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| dsmith_ | you can run triple sli now | 05:41 |
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| tehm0nk | triple SLI? | 05:41 |
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| dsmith_ | yea | 05:42 |
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| tehm0nk | i hadn't even heard of dual | 05:42 |
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| dsmith_ | three cards in parallel | 05:42 |
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| tehm0nk | ? | 05:42 |
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| tehm0nk | weird... | 05:42 |
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| dsmith_ | heh | 05:42 |
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| tehm0nk | i've heard you can SLI + optional extra monitor... | 05:42 |
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| Dr_willis | the latest attempt to get more $$ from rich gammers. :) | 05:43 |
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| dsmith_ | well with SSD drives coming to fruition it will spead things up | 05:43 |
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| tehm0nk | my motherboard can do that i think | 05:43 |
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| tehm0nk | but... i think that is just rediculous... | 05:43 |
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| tehm0nk | to buy 3 videocards... | 05:43 |
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| Dr_willis | I dont think the 3 sli mb's are even out yet. | 05:43 |
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| tehm0nk | i mean yeah i bought 2 but it DOUBLES my perfomance.. | 05:43 |
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| dsmith_ | i caught that last week, I am not a serious gamer but I thought it was interesting | 05:43 |
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| tehm0nk | Dr_willis: Agreed. | 05:43 |
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| tehm0nk | hence no Dual monitors in SLI | 05:43 |
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| tehm0nk | all about $$$ lol | 05:44 |
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| tehm0nk | "shhhh dont tell them we're never gonna even TRY to do that... cause then we'd lose money!" | 05:44 |
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| tehm0nk | Anyways here's the deal | 05:44 |
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| dsmith_ | I read about a report last night that a group ran (6) mtron ssd drives in raid 0 that had I/O of ~650mb/s | 05:44 |
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| Dr_willis | Info i saw said 3 cards in sli = 280% increase | 05:44 |
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| dsmith_ | lol | 05:44 |
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| tehm0nk | i had a bit of an issue with this in Kubuntu as well tho | 05:44 |
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| dsmith_ | Dr_willis: yea, thats it | 05:44 |
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| Dr_willis | Of course.. a lot of the SLI/Power stuff dont matter much at the common res that a lot of people use | 05:45 |
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| tehm0nk | if i Try to enable Compiz screen loses bars | 05:45 |
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| Dr_willis | But the price of these higher res/24+ inch monitors are getting better. | 05:45 |
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| dsmith_ | sli = serious gamers.. | 05:45 |
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| Dr_willis | sli = people with more $$ then sence. :P | 05:45 |
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| Dr_willis | vodka = Serious Drinkers. | 05:45 |
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| tehm0nk | lol not even | 05:45 |
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| dsmith_ | lol | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | my video cards are now like 120 bucks? | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | each... | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | that is Nothing | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | and you know it lol | 05:46 |
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| Dr_willis | Actually compiz uses opengl.. that could use SLI. Hmm | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | 8600 GT | 05:46 |
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| dsmith_ | yea I just bought one for the gf | 05:46 |
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| Dr_willis | ya could take your 2 cards out.. toss thm out.. buy a newer card thats faster then the 2 combined. :) | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | Times 2 right? | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 05:46 |
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| Dr_willis | Or just turn off some eye candy. | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | and put it in SLI mode... | 05:46 |
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| tehm0nk | and throw away one monitor | 05:47 |
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| tehm0nk | and CONFORM | 05:47 |
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| tehm0nk | no. | 05:47 |
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| tehm0nk | :-P | 05:47 |
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| * Dr_willis dosent want to start the argument about why a MMORPG needs such high FPS... | 05:47 |
| tehm0nk | because you can see page flipping at less than 30 FPS? | 05:47 |
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| Dr_willis | does it matter.. You are just mindlessly bashing macro keys anyway.. :P | 05:48 |
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| tehm0nk | and when there is 40 players on your screen at once you better have the right rig or either you die, or you get to kill more... | 05:48 |
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| tehm0nk | no? | 05:48 |
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| tehm0nk | LoL | 05:48 |
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| Dr_willis | look down at the ground.. and just watch your party health bars.. | 05:48 |
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| tehm0nk | every class can't be macro'd :-P | 05:48 |
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| Dr_willis | You get the impression i play healers a lot? :) | 05:48 |
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| tehm0nk | i have a 70 priest :-P | 05:48 |
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| tehm0nk | dropped healing at 60 | 05:48 |
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| tehm0nk | never went back | 05:48 |
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| Dr_willis | My G15 Keyboard - that i DO have working under linux - can even show the health bars ion its lec.. :) | 05:49 |
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| tehm0nk | played for a long time before the BC patch | 05:49 |
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| Dr_willis | lcd. | 05:49 |
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| tehm0nk | yeah i heard about them things | 05:49 |
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| tehm0nk | i trust my micro. natural 4000 and my mx rev... | 05:49 |
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| tehm0nk | wonder for Cs too heh | 05:49 |
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| tehm0nk | this compiz thing is killing me again | 05:49 |
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| Dr_willis | I dumpped WoW. and dont care for most MMORPGs any more. so have fun. :P | 05:49 |
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| tehm0nk | i just dont get it | 05:50 |
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| tehm0nk | maybe my dri is messed up or something? | 05:50 |
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| maduser | compiz...... | 05:50 |
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| tehm0nk | ? | 05:50 |
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| Dr_willis | compiz is still very much a work in progress at times. | 05:50 |
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| maduser | Its a beach | 05:50 |
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| tehm0nk | right but i just had it working sweet on kubuntu, now in ubuntu i can't do the same thing to make it work right... | 05:50 |
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| Dr_willis | of coruse that can also be said for the state of nvidia and ati drivers under linux - sadly | 05:50 |
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| maduser | I have it working fine i just never use ot | 05:51 |
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| tehm0nk | mad... why? | 05:51 |
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| maduser | Its good to show off to friends | 05:51 |
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| tehm0nk | the cube is nice to me, just in general | 05:51 |
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| maduser | When you wan to do a full screen youtube video in compiz | 05:51 |
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| maduser | you can't | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | aww darn? | 05:52 |
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| maduser | yeah | 05:52 |
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| maduser | no fox | 05:52 |
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| Dr_willis | I find the cube proberly one of the most useless features of compiz. :) | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | like it doesn't get jacked up fullscreen anyways... | 05:52 |
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| maduser | no fix | 05:52 |
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| Dr_willis | Even the fire is more a more usefull gimmic! :) | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | LOL how is the fire useful? | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | i mean | 05:52 |
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| Dr_willis | Draw on the screen... "Dont Touch Me!" | 05:52 |
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| tehm0nk | only if you're bored | 05:53 |
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| maduser | cool | 05:53 |
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| Dr_willis | and it scares people off. | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | AHAHAHA | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | thats pretty good actually | 05:53 |
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| maduser | I just run a shell program | 05:53 |
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| Dr_willis | Had someone in here who accidently enabled fire.. and couldent turn it off. | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | pfft | 05:53 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 05:53 |
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| maduser | that makes a scrart image pop up if they type the wronf password | 05:53 |
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| maduser | that makes a scrary image pop up if they type the wrong password | 05:53 |
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| Dr_willis | Only compiz things i regually use is that "show a preview/mini window' in the taskbar, and the zoom | 05:53 |
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| maduser | Its great | 05:54 |
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| maduser | me too | 05:54 |
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| maduser | Can you run frets on fire in compiz? | 05:54 |
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| maduser | .......... | 05:55 |
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| Dr_willis | try it and see i guess. | 05:55 |
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| Dr_willis | proberly can. :) | 05:55 |
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| maduser | I fear the images will be all messed up | 05:56 |
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| maduser | who here has tried puppy? | 05:56 |
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| tehm0nk | Dr_willis: it's too nutty in #ubuntu | 05:56 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, never noticed.. | 05:56 |
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| awag22 | i think it is generally a good idea to quit compiz before running a game | 05:56 |
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| Dr_willis | I hang out in there all the time | 05:56 |
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| maduser | thats my idea | 05:57 |
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| Gast258 | moin allerseits | 05:57 |
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| Gast258 | irgendjemand da? | 05:57 |
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| tehm0nk | it's hard to get help there | 05:57 |
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| maduser | is that german? | 05:57 |
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| surgy | when i plug in my mp3 player it doesnt automount, it shows the icon on the desktop like it should be mounted, but it doesnt actually mount untill i click on the icon, the same thing happens when i put a cd in the cd rom | 05:57 |
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| surgy | is there a fix? | 05:57 |
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| tehm0nk | you guys here have helped me a LOT more than they could have | 05:57 |
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| Gast258 | yes it is | 05:58 |
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| maduser | cool | 05:58 |
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| tehm0nk | this time is the FIRST time i've been acknoledged in there | 05:58 |
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| Gast258 | where is the german help chat ? | 05:58 |
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| awag22 | !de | 05:58 |
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| ubotu | Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de | 05:58 |
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| maduser | wow the ubuntu channel is chaotic | 05:58 |
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| Gast258 | thx | 05:58 |
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| Dr_willis | it helps to ask good questions. :) | 05:59 |
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| tehm0nk | Dr_willis: you got any ideas why my stuff could be screwy? i'll post my xorg real fast... | 05:59 |
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| tehm0nk | !paste | 05:59 |
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| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 05:59 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, im not even sure what your problem actually is. | 05:59 |
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| maduser | never mess with xorg | 05:59 |
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| tehm0nk | never mess with xorg huh... | 05:59 |
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| maduser | do you have the defult? | 05:59 |
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| tehm0nk | i have to Just to make the live CD boot | 05:59 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 05:59 |
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| tehm0nk | and i have to to make my monitors work right ... | 06:00 |
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| tehm0nk | At all even | 06:00 |
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| maduser | you could replace it with the defult | 06:00 |
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| tehm0nk | lol if i replaced it with default i'd lost 1 monitor... | 06:00 |
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| maduser | my advice chmod 600 xorg | 06:00 |
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| tehm0nk | and when i would turn on my pc, it would start to boot on one monitor... | 06:01 |
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| tehm0nk | and then ask me to login on the other... | 06:01 |
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| tehm0nk | :-P | 06:01 |
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| maduser | hmmmm | 06:01 |
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| tehm0nk | yeah | 06:01 |
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| tehm0nk | there is a seriously problem there... | 06:01 |
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| Dr_willis | Thats from the twinview/dual screens not agreeing on what monuitor was primary | 06:01 |
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| Dr_willis | which is a bit of a issue with the nvidia driver also making it a hassle. | 06:01 |
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| tehm0nk | arggh | 06:02 |
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| Dr_willis | Want more fun? enable a single monitor nvidia system.. Power down.. plug in a tv to the svideo up.. DONT turn on the tv.. | 06:02 |
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| Dr_willis | when you boot up - some of my nvidia systems default to the TV out.. with No Monitor output once X starts. | 06:02 |
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| Dr_willis | I saw the pc boot.. saw the messages.. heard gnome start sounds.. then blank | 06:03 |
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| maduser | ouch | 06:03 |
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| Dr_willis | However... same setup.. No pc moniotr.. i had to do nothing to get tv out working. | 06:03 |
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| Dr_willis | I could even install ubuntu , without a pc monitor. just a tv. | 06:03 |
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| Dr_willis | This Does seem to depend on what card you have also. | 06:03 |
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| tehm0nk | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49387/ | 06:04 |
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| maduser | do you have a repalce ment or defult? | 06:04 |
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| maduser | like xorg-defult.conf? | 06:04 |
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| tehm0nk | do i have a backup? | 06:04 |
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| maduser | yeah | 06:04 |
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| tehm0nk | yes | 06:04 |
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| tehm0nk | but... THAT would break my PC | 06:04 |
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| maduser | ? | 06:05 |
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| tehm0nk | before i rebooted from installing i EDITED it to make it work... | 06:05 |
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| tehm0nk | if i booted again | 06:05 |
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| tehm0nk | it'd cry and say something like oh no! no screen found! | 06:05 |
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| tehm0nk | the default does that to me... on a Clean install :-P | 06:05 |
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| === ghost is now known as SteamMachine |
| maduser | it would boot into console | 06:05 |
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| tehm0nk | exactly | 06:05 |
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| maduser | I hate that | 06:05 |
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| tehm0nk | and i'd have to refix it :-P | 06:05 |
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| SteamMachine | Hi all. | 06:06 |
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| SteamMachine | I wish to disable kde wallet. | 06:06 |
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| SteamMachine | It's rather annoying and I don't need it. | 06:06 |
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| SteamMachine | I'm not sure how to though. | 06:06 |
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| SteamMachine | I've actually uninstalled it and it still ... appears. O_O | 06:06 |
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| maduser | what is it used for? | 06:06 |
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| maduser | passwords, wep? | 06:07 |
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| SteamMachine | Passwords. | 06:07 |
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| SteamMachine | For kopete mostly. | 06:07 |
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| maduser | If you did not have it you would have to retype the passwords every time | 06:07 |
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| Dr_willis | My xorg.conf for tv out :) and dual screen - http://pastebin.ca/829497 | 06:08 |
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| Dr_willis | if anyone wants to look. | 06:08 |
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| tehm0nk | Dr_willis: in kubuntu it uses Emerald to theme it or something... someone had me put "emerald --replace" in the command option of window decoration in CCSM | 06:08 |
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| SteamMachine | maduser: i just told kopete to remember the password. >_> | 06:08 |
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| Dr_willis | emerald can be used to get the window decoration, | 06:08 |
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| Dr_willis | or you can use the KDE window decoration thing, or even the gnome one. | 06:08 |
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| tehm0nk | and then i ran "compiz --replace" and it worked... | 06:08 |
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| tehm0nk | what is the gnome one? | 06:09 |
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| Dr_willis | i forget its name. Its mentioned at the compiz-fusion homepage. :) | 06:09 |
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| SteamMachine | Also, I wondered if there were any plans to make a more... kde-compatible firefox? | 06:10 |
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| Dr_willis | gtk-window-decorator --replace, | 06:10 |
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| Dr_willis | kde-window-decorator --replace, or | 06:10 |
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| Dr_willis | emerald --replace | 06:10 |
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| Dr_willis | SteamMachine, none that i have heard of. I think a few people have started.. but got very little done. | 06:10 |
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| SteamMachine | Mm. It seems like that. What with Konquefox and the like. | 06:11 |
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| SteamMachine | A shame really. I adore firefox - but the gnominess of it bugs me. | 06:11 |
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| SteamMachine | still, there's enough tweaks to make it bearable. | 06:12 |
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| Dr_willis | never noticed really.... | 06:12 |
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| Dr_willis | I just put in the few extensions i like.. and surf away | 06:12 |
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| Dr_willis | :) | 06:12 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 06:13 |
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| tehm0nk | now they're broke in Both screens lol | 06:13 |
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| maduser | when you mess with xorg | 06:15 |
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| maduser | ......... | 06:15 |
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| biovore | it bites back.. :-) | 06:16 |
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| maduser | worse | 06:16 |
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| maduser | it messes with your head | 06:16 |
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| maduser | like the DMV | 06:16 |
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| tehm0nk | no... | 06:17 |
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| tehm0nk | i didn't change my xorg. | 06:17 |
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| tehm0nk | all i didn was run metacity --replace and compiz --replace a couple times lol | 06:17 |
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| maduser | what did you do? | 06:17 |
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| tehm0nk | can i install that emerald theme manager thing on ubuntu as well? | 06:19 |
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| maduser | dunno | 06:20 |
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| tehm0nk | Dr_willis: do you know? | 06:20 |
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| Dr_willis | !compiz | 06:21 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 06:21 |
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| Dr_willis | Yes.. that page details it all. :) | 06:21 |
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| tehm0nk | compiz is actually not engaging at alll... | 06:21 |
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| Dr_willis | And that page is proerly the full extent of my compiz knowledge. :() | 06:21 |
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| tehm0nk | cause you're a lucky one | 06:22 |
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| tehm0nk | lol ok i installed emerald... | 06:24 |
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| tehm0nk | and got window decration.... | 06:24 |
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| Dr_willis | install some emerald themes also to play with. :) | 06:24 |
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| tehm0nk | it just happened to be on the one i wanted already haha | 06:24 |
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| tehm0nk | and compiz is now working... | 06:25 |
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| tehm0nk | odd. | 06:25 |
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| maninder | whats the super button? | 06:25 |
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| tehm0nk | windows key | 06:26 |
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| tehm0nk | took me a while to figure that one out... | 06:26 |
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| maninder | the button next to crt | 06:26 |
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| maninder | and alt | 06:26 |
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| tehm0nk | AKA Start | 06:26 |
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| tehm0nk | it's got the windows logo normally | 06:27 |
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| maninder | got ya | 06:27 |
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| maninder | thanks | 06:27 |
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| maninder | the water effect is so usless yet fun to watch | 06:27 |
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| tehm0nk | yeah | 06:28 |
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| tehm0nk | same with fire | 06:28 |
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| Dr_willis | Tidal Wave! | 06:30 |
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| Dr_willis | :) | 06:30 |
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| === rob1 is now known as rob |
| tehm0nk | never tried that | 06:31 |
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| maninder | lol | 06:31 |
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| maninder | i have like multiple bugs on my linux | 06:31 |
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| maninder | i just feel like doing a new installation | 06:32 |
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| sparr | are there any projects that bring newer packages to existing ubuntu releases? i moved from debian to ubuntu, and having to wait 6 months for new versions of things is my biggest complaint. | 06:32 |
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| crimsun | well, yes, the MOTU "project" works on the latest development branch and caring for security errata and bugfixes for the currently supported stable packages in universe. | 06:33 |
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| ardchoille | sparr: You can always compile | 06:33 |
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| tehm0nk | anyone know how to make the cube transparent always? | 06:34 |
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| sparr | tehm0nk: even when youre looking at a 2d desktop? | 06:34 |
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| tehm0nk | yes | 06:35 |
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| tehm0nk | i had it like that before | 06:35 |
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| Dr_willis | the backports repos may have updates also. | 06:46 |
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| === FunnyHat is now known as FunnyLookinHat |
| tehm0nk | http://picpaste.com/gears_1.jpg | 06:48 |
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| tehm0nk | sparr like that | 06:48 |
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| tehm0nk | but that was on kubuntu | 06:48 |
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| sparr | freaky | 06:49 |
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| sparr | but doable, i think | 06:49 |
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| sparr | isnt there a checkbox "always render cube"? | 06:50 |
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| sparr | or "only render when rotating" (which you would uncheck) | 06:50 |
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| tehm0nk | there we go | 06:52 |
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| tehm0nk | got it | 06:52 |
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| voidmage | does anyone know the default font for amarok's osd? | 06:53 |
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| tehm0nk | wow | 06:56 |
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| tehm0nk | this is weird... i set a setting | 06:56 |
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| tehm0nk | then click back then go back to the setting and it's back to default | 06:56 |
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| tehm0nk | GRR | 06:56 |
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| LinkCanabico | hi can someone point me in the right direction to create a livecd that boots directly into a game i am programming | 06:56 |
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| sexy_noob | could anyone help with some pretty straight forward monitor problems? I accidently changed my monitor model to digital when it was set as analog and now starting x leads to a black screen. :( How do i change it back with the command line? | 06:57 |
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| Dr_willis | !fixres | 06:57 |
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| ubotu | The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto | 06:57 |
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| Dr_willis | lets see... | 06:57 |
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| Dr_willis | Thats not it.. Hmmm.. | 06:57 |
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| ardchoille | !xconfig | 06:58 |
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| ubotu | To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes | 06:58 |
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| Dr_willis | thats it. :) | 06:58 |
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| ardchoille | :) | 06:58 |
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| LinkCanabico | sexy_noob in grub set the kernel option to init 3 | 06:58 |
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| Dr_willis | actually if X is borked.. and booting him to the console.. he can just login, use the sudo command. then test with 'startx' I think | 06:59 |
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| sexy_noob | i just need to change the monitor model setting back? i dont think x is broken | 06:59 |
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| ardchoille | Yeah, or just ctrl+alt+f1 and log in there | 06:59 |
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| LinkCanabico | ardchoille is right | 06:59 |
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| Dr_willis | Yea. He may be getting X started.. it sjust not usign the right settings | 06:59 |
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| ardchoille | Dr_willis: Isn't that type of setting kept somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config ? | 07:00 |
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| Dr_willis | Then theres the 'rescue/recovery' entry in grub. :) | 07:00 |
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| Dr_willis | I dont think the monitor settings hes referign to are. the user keeps their modes, and res. But not the model. | 07:00 |
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| Dr_willis | plus if its killing kdm. then its been set in the xorg.conf wrongly. | 07:01 |
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| Dr_willis | thats My logic at least. | 07:01 |
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| LinkCanabico | also gdm and kdm are not configured by the user | 07:01 |
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| ardchoille | sexy_noob: Did you use sudo (admin) to change that? | 07:01 |
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| tehm0nk | Dr_willis: is it possible to get the same screenshot thing as in Kubuntu? | 07:01 |
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| sexy_noob | one sec i had to start | 07:01 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, what screenshot thing? :) proberly is possible... | 07:02 |
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| tehm0nk | are you on kubuntu right now? | 07:02 |
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| Dr_willis | yes | 07:02 |
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| tehm0nk | press printscreen | 07:02 |
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| tehm0nk | lol | 07:02 |
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| Dr_willis | On Kubuntu. :) | 07:02 |
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| tehm0nk | the one in Ubuntu Sucks. | 07:02 |
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| Dr_willis | tehm0nk, ok.. You are asking how to use the KUBUNTU screenshot tool. in Ubuntu... | 07:03 |
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| Dr_willis | Thats a little more clear then. :) | 07:03 |
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| tehm0nk | what is it's name | 07:03 |
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| ardchoille | Dr_willis: PM? | 07:03 |
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| LinkCanabico | wich tool Ksnapshot? | 07:03 |
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| tehm0nk | i'll see if it's in the install thing | 07:03 |
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| ardchoille | tehm0nk: ksnapshot | 07:03 |
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| Dr_willis | ksnapshot seems to be its name. :) yes. | 07:04 |
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| Dr_willis | !find ksnapshot | 07:04 |
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| ubotu | Found: ksnapshot | 07:04 |
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| Dr_willis | There it is. | 07:04 |
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| ardchoille | lol | 07:04 |
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| Dr_willis | well its 2 am.. and i am going to ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz......... | 07:04 |
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| Dr_willis | night all. | 07:04 |
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| ardchoille | Good night | 07:04 |
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| LinkCanabico | night | 07:04 |
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| sexy_noob | yay! something worked! | 07:05 |
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| LinkCanabico | sexy_noob thats a start | 07:06 |
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| sexy_noob | the gamma settings are blinding me but as long as it turns on | 07:06 |
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| Gidean | Just inherited an amd64 'puter. Should I run the 64bit OS or stick to i386? I just want it to work as soon as possible and be my net/media workhorse... | 07:08 |
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| Gidean | opinions? | 07:08 |
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| ardchoille | I'd stick to i386 if I wanted it to work in the quickest time and with the least amount of work | 07:08 |
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| LinkCanabico | net/media use i386 | 07:09 |
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| ubuntu | how do I set the root password? | 07:09 |
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| ardchoille | ubuntu: You don't, use sudo | 07:10 |
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| ardchoille | !sudo | ubuntu | 07:10 |
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| ubotu | ubuntu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | 07:10 |
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| ubuntu | yes I do need to | 07:10 |
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| ubuntu | I need to be loged in as root to do some of the work I need to do in the terminal | 07:10 |
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| ubuntu | sudo won't cut it | 07:10 |
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| ardchoille | ubuntu: Sudo can do anyting root can do | 07:10 |
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| ubuntu | ya | 07:10 |
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| ubuntu | but it asks for a root password | 07:10 |
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| ardchoille | What asks for root passwd? | 07:10 |
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| ubuntu | I put in sudo alsaconf | 07:10 |
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| Gidean | that's what I figured...On a different note: I use 6.06 LTS on my lappie and am very happy. Is there an advantage to 7.10? | 07:11 |
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| ubuntu | and it asks for the root password | 07:11 |
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| ardchoille | it's asking for your user passwd | 07:11 |
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| ananth123 | ubuntu: try the user password | 07:11 |
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| ubuntu | I did | 07:11 |
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| ubuntu | it rejected it | 07:11 |
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| ubuntu | :( | 07:11 |
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| ardchoille | Then you mistyped or something | 07:11 |
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| ubuntu | but like I was originally asking how do I change my root password? | 07:11 |
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| ardchoille | ubuntu: You don't, use sudo | 07:11 |
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| Gidean | passwd | 07:11 |
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| ubuntu | Thanks Gidean | 07:11 |
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| LinkCanabico | well you can try sudo passwd | 07:12 |
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| jinx | how do i install my 3d accelerated video card drivers ati | 07:12 |
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| ardchoille | Please do not teach people how to enable root. | 07:12 |
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| ardchoille | It's neither necessary nor supported | 07:12 |
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| ubuntu | Thats pretty restricting | 07:12 |
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| Gidean | it's knowledge... | 07:12 |
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| se7en | somebody know a good and easy terminal mail client? | 07:12 |
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| ubuntu | Gidean when I put in passwd it says current UNIX Password: | 07:13 |
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| ananth123 | ubuntu: its a feature, by design to protect newbies from doing silly things... most experienced users can work around the default settings to even add a root acc | 07:13 |
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| LinkCanabico | ardchoille its part of the philosophy "You decide what you want to do on your PC" | 07:13 |
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| ardchoille | ubuntu: If you feel that is restive, then you really should read the sudo wiki page and learn about sudo | 07:13 |
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| ardchoille | LinkCanabico: yes, but this is an official support channel and we follow the recommended methods here. | 07:13 |
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| ubuntu | recommended methods? | 07:14 |
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| ananth123 | or try some other distro | 07:14 |
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| ubuntu | oh so there are more advanced distros? | 07:14 |
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| LinkCanabico | yes | 07:14 |
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| ananth123 | its not more advanced (or less).... its what suits your taste! | 07:14 |
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| ubuntu | How about Ultumix? Some people have told me it's great. | 07:14 |
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| ananth123 | try it out. | 07:14 |
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| ananth123 | whats good for me may (or not) be good for you | 07:15 |
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| se7en | somebody know a good and easy terminal mail client? | 07:15 |
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| ananth123 | pine... mutt | 07:15 |
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| se7en | thanks ananth123 ...checking | 07:16 |
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| ubuntu | Gidean I can't PM you | 07:16 |
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| ubuntu | It says I need to register | 07:16 |
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| ubuntu | I'm registered | 07:16 |
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| ardchoille | !register | 07:16 |
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| ubotu | By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration | 07:16 |
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| ubuntu | how do I change my user name | 07:17 |
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| ardchoille | oh, sorry | 07:17 |
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| ardchoille | ubuntu: /nick newnick | 07:17 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as newnick |
| ardchoille | lol | 07:17 |
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| LinkCanabico | :) | 07:17 |
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| Gidean | rofl | 07:17 |
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| ananth123 | LOL | 07:17 |
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| Gidean | any current 6.06 users? | 07:18 |
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| newnick | I'm trying to install LinuxMCE :) I found that their download for Kubuntu is not working right | 07:19 |
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| newnick | So I got the same version from the mirrors on the Kubuntu site | 07:19 |
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| newnick | Works much better now | 07:19 |
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| ananth123 | Gidean: yeah | 07:20 |
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| foibles | hi there, im using teamspeak in linux and my sound won't go through | 07:20 |
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| newnick | Hopefully after I update Kubuntu and install the Linux MCE disks it will recognise my TV card | 07:20 |
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| foibles | its using OSS by default, but thats the problem | 07:20 |
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| newnick | MythTV seems very TVCard unfriendly | 07:20 |
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| newnick | I have a TV2000 XP Expert WinFast TV card | 07:21 |
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| newnick | It works with other TV Tuner Card Programs | 07:21 |
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| newnick | I don't get it | 07:21 |
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| ananth123 | under linux ? | 07:21 |
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| newnick | yep | 07:21 |
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| ananth123 | which program ? | 07:22 |
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| newnick | Well Any of them in the repo exept MythTV | 07:22 |
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| newnick | MythTV just goes crazy | 07:22 |
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| foibles | can anyone help me out? | 07:22 |
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| newnick | and freaks out | 07:22 |
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| foibles | anyone used teamspeak before? | 07:22 |
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| newnick | well gota reboot | 07:22 |
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| Gidean | BTW: Is the 'sudo' protocol a *buntu invention or didi t start in debian? | 07:25 |
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| crimsun | it started back in OpenBSD. | 07:25 |
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| Gidean | wow | 07:25 |
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| ananth123 | Gidean: its probably a few decades old iirc | 07:26 |
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| ardchoille | I've been using sudo for years and never had to enable root. I love it. | 07:27 |
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| Gidean | Don't get me wrong, I have no problem using sudo... | 07:27 |
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| Gidean | big fan.. | 07:27 |
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| justin__ | Back after the reboot | 07:27 |
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| justin__ | I survived | 07:28 |
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| Gidean | just thinking... | 07:28 |
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| Gidean | question: the idea is that your everyday use is done a a user and when needed you can execute commands as root using sudo, correct? | 07:29 |
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| ananth123 | yes | 07:29 |
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| ardchoille | Well, there are some definite advantages to using sudo, one being that you can't brute force a locked root account and you can't brute force user accounts if you don't know the usernames | 07:29 |
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| justin__ | YES | 07:29 |
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| justin__ | Thats not an advantage | 07:29 |
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| justin__ | to me | 07:29 |
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| Gidean | les risk of muck things about when you don't wield ultimate power... | 07:29 |
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| Gidean | heh | 07:29 |
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| Gidean | maybe not an advantage but a nice precaution.. | 07:30 |
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| ardchoille | Indeed | 07:30 |
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| Gidean | I know I've been saved a few times thinking back | 07:30 |
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| justin__ | I've never ran into a problem using root when I should not have | 07:31 |
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| justin__ | just lucky I guess | 07:31 |
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| justin__ | Evil_DuDe is scarry. He hasn't droped his connection since 12/15/2007. I think he has his eyes on us! | 07:33 |
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| Gidean | EF! think Opera was resposible for making my sys unresposnsive...had to restart X | 07:35 |
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| justin__ | ./join #Ultumix | 07:36 |
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| justin__ | woops | 07:36 |
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| Gidean | So again, I ask humbly for opinions: is 7.10 worth upgrading to? I'm happy with 6.06 but just inherited a desktop.... | 07:37 |
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| justin__ | I think so | 07:37 |
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| Gidean | and why is that? | 07:37 |
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| ananth123 | its better to do a fresh install of 7.10 on the laptop than an upgrade | 07:37 |
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| ananth123 | for one, the latest version of the packages would have fixed some bugs | 07:38 |
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| ardchoille | Gidean: I installed 7.10 (coming from Dapper) and I have loved it enough to get rid of my Dapper images. | 07:38 |
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| Gidean | It would be for my desktop but that brings up another question: versions don't share repositries? | 07:38 |
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| ardchoille | It's not good to mix repos like that, no | 07:39 |
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| Gidean | I see, I see... | 07:40 |
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| ardchoille | Gidean: Is this a system that will be upgraded to Gutsy from Dapper? | 07:41 |
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| anakin_ | when i try to login to the location with a valid username and passwd into smb://hostname, i keep getting the authentication message over and over | 07:42 |
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| anakin_ | Is this something to do with the authentication protocol in smb.conf? | 07:42 |
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| ardchoille | anakin_: I get that sometimes and I found it's always on a folder that isn't shared | 07:43 |
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| Gidean | Thank you all....happy holidays | 07:43 |
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| jessy_james | ardchoille™ take the dapper ,no upgraded to Gutsy,counsel o advice form the 7.04 | 07:46 |
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| ardchoille | jessy_james: I didn't quite understand that | 07:47 |
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| jessy_james | the 7.10 is not stable | 07:47 |
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| ardchoille | jessy_james: 7.10 is the current stable release, yes | 07:48 |
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| jessy_james | experience | 07:48 |
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| jessy_james | the 7.04 is stable | 07:49 |
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| ardchoille | jessy_james: It's been stable for me on 11 machines, but I guess it depends on many factors. | 07:49 |
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| jessy_james | fortune, | 07:50 |
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| jessy_james | the software for the 7.04 is goof | 07:51 |
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| jessy_james | *good | 07:51 |
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| ardchoille | lol | 07:53 |
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| jessy_james | experience say :) | 07:56 |
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| === Katze is now known as Shely |
| Qhestion | hi. i want to install kubuntu from dvd. when i boot from it, it starts up normal, but then the kde startup progress window (dont know how its called) is shown. 5 seconds later my monitor gets turned off. is this normal? | 08:01 |
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| Qhestion | when i hit [ctrl][f7] afterwards, i get a "normal" display, but it is set to 640x480 | 08:02 |
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| Qhestion | now, what do i do? | 08:02 |
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| Jeroi | Qhestionyes it is normal | 08:03 |
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| Qhestion | WHAT ? how can that be normal? | 08:03 |
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| Jeroi | just wait when kde starts it brings your dekstop view right a way | 08:03 |
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| Qhestion | no it does not. | 08:04 |
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| Qhestion | i did wait ~10 minutes | 08:04 |
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| Jeroi | dosent show you the text in the monitor like windows does | 08:04 |
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| Jeroi | tho windows uses some progress bar | 08:04 |
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| Qhestion | yes, but i cant see that because my monitor gets disablde | 08:04 |
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| Jeroi | ah | 08:05 |
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| Qhestion | not only for ~2 seconds | 08:05 |
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| Jeroi | so you get kde loading stage? | 08:05 |
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| Qhestion | yes | 08:05 |
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| Jeroi | and? | 08:05 |
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| Qhestion | quote: ""but then the kde startup progress window (dont know how its called) is shown. 5 seconds later my monitor gets turned off. is this normal?"" | 08:05 |
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| Jeroi | thats not normal | 08:05 |
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| Qhestion | also, what i did afterwards: "when i hit [ctrl][f7] afterwards, i get a "normal" display, but it is set to 640x480" | 08:05 |
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| Qhestion | and i cant change it to higher resolutions | 08:05 |
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| Jeroi | I tought you meant at first when bios loads after that monitor goes balack and off | 08:06 |
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| Qhestion | nah | 08:06 |
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| Jeroi | ok | 08:06 |
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| Jeroi | you got weard prob | 08:06 |
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| Qhestion | yep. | 08:06 |
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| Jeroi | is you gfx properly setuped? | 08:06 |
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| Qhestion | ehm | 08:06 |
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| Qhestion | i am installing. | 08:06 |
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| Qhestion | from the dvd. | 08:06 |
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| Qhestion | i did nothing! | 08:06 |
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| Jeroi | yes | 08:06 |
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| Jeroi | did you isntall your kubuntu already? | 08:07 |
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| Qhestion | no | 08:07 |
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| Jeroi | so why do you need bigger resolution? | 08:07 |
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| Qhestion | turn computer on -> boot from dvd -> wait -> wait -> crap | 08:07 |
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| Qhestion | well, i am a little bit frightened | 08:07 |
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| Jeroi | Imo I would install in textmode | 08:07 |
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| Jeroi | not going to kde at all | 08:08 |
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| Qhestion | i dont want to install kubuntu just to see that it cant run higher than 640x480 | 08:08 |
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| Qhestion | hmm | 08:08 |
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| Jeroi | faster, quite easy too. | 08:08 |
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| Jeroi | what gfx card you use? | 08:08 |
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| Qhestion | ehm | 08:08 |
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| Qhestion | geforce 8600 gt | 08:08 |
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| Jeroi | same than me :) | 08:08 |
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| Jeroi | I fought with it alot | 08:08 |
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| Qhestion | dammit | 08:09 |
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| ananth123 | try passing video res as boot parameter... | 08:09 |
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| Jeroi | the best way is, to go k-menu->system settings | 08:09 |
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| Qhestion | nay. | 08:09 |
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| Jeroi | then to advanced tab | 08:09 |
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| Qhestion | it only shows "640x480" as availbale resolutions | 08:09 |
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| Jeroi | there is restricetd drivers | 08:09 |
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| Qhestion | ehh uhh... ok | 08:09 |
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| Jeroi | then install nvidia-glx-nev as dialog shows you | 08:10 |
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| Jeroi | new* | 08:10 |
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| Jeroi | then you should get your resolution after you edit your config | 08:10 |
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| Jeroi | the best way to edit is typing nvidia-settings into console | 08:10 |
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| Jeroi | you get gui program from nvidia | 08:11 |
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| Qhestion | ok | 08:11 |
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| Jeroi | it is kind of same looking than in windows | 08:11 |
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| Qhestion | well, i am coming from opensuse ;) | 08:11 |
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| Jeroi | hmm, yes good choice toi try kubuntu | 08:12 |
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| Qhestion | i thought so too, but in opensuse "it just works", while kubuntu seems not to like me | 08:12 |
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| Qhestion | well, i will try it | 08:13 |
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| Jeroi | Qhestion, ubuntu dont install any restricted drivers at all | 08:13 |
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| Jeroi | this means, drivers that some companies have rights in them | 08:13 |
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| Jeroi | so ubuntu is legal distribution | 08:13 |
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| Qhestion | yes. | 08:14 |
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| Jeroi | ubuntu tho dont cotrol what users install into it | 08:14 |
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| Jeroi | so you get all working just fine | 08:14 |
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| Qhestion | ok i will try it then | 08:14 |
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| Jeroi | altho it needs a bit fixing this and that and meanwhile you get bored without help | 08:14 |
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| Jeroi | but in end of the day, it gives good warm when you sugges in something | 08:15 |
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| Qhestion | hmm | 08:15 |
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| Jeroi | ? | 08:15 |
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| Qhestion | yes, but i prefer not learning while i install an os | 08:16 |
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| Jeroi | I feel you | 08:16 |
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| Qhestion | afterwards ok, but that is a damned critical phase | 08:16 |
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| Jeroi | but some times things just arent like windows | 08:16 |
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| Jeroi | windows install with like singel button and typing your name etc | 08:16 |
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| Qhestion | they should be better... but they are not | 08:16 |
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| Jeroi | but then again: the real compete comes when installing some codecs and programs | 08:17 |
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| Qhestion | i think that one is fairly easy | 08:17 |
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| Jeroi | and indeed apt-get is nice piece of software in debian based systemsa | 08:17 |
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| Jeroi | Qhestion btw | 08:18 |
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| Qhestion | that was the main reason i wanted to try kubuntu. | 08:18 |
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| Qhestion | i just dont trust yast anymore | 08:18 |
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| Jeroi | you dont get to dl anything from net wihtout editin your sources list | 08:18 |
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| Qhestion | yes? | 08:18 |
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| Qhestion | is it like in opensuse? | 08:18 |
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| Jeroi | main reason to this, is that you are using live cd | 08:19 |
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| Jeroi | so you sources are your cd | 08:19 |
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| Jeroi | you need to disable cd sources from /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:19 |
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| Jeroi | and enable internet sources | 08:19 |
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| Jeroi | sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list should do the trick | 08:20 |
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| Qhestion | yes | 08:20 |
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| Jeroi | if kubuntu asks password just hit enter | 08:20 |
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| Qhestion | yes | 08:21 |
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| Qhestion | good that i get to know this *before* i go into runlevel 2 or so... | 08:21 |
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| Qhestion | it is what happened with opensuse | 08:21 |
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| Jeroi | yeah | 08:21 |
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| Qhestion | and there i was, not knowing any texteditor besides vim | 08:21 |
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| Jeroi | I'we used kubuntu now 3 weeks fulltime | 08:21 |
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| ganjamaniac | heh | 08:22 |
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| Qhestion | and unfortunately, all i knew about vim was that you can exit it with :q! | 08:22 |
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| Jeroi | before gutsy, I installed edgy | 08:22 |
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| ganjamaniac | how can i run this firefox flash plugin? | 08:22 |
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| ganjamaniac | because its weirianistic | 08:22 |
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| Jeroi | but when upgraded to feisty I managed to destroy my kde somehow | 08:22 |
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| Jeroi | ganjamaniac I have made fix for that | 08:22 |
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| Qhestion | ok am now off, trying "it" | 08:23 |
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| Jeroi | it has md5 checksum error | 08:23 |
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| Jeroi | because aplle has new plugin giving wrong md5 | 08:23 |
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| ganjamaniac | cool | 08:23 |
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| ganjamaniac | apple? | 08:23 |
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| ganjamaniac | did apple aquire adobe? | 08:23 |
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| ganjamaniac | whatever | 08:24 |
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| Jeroi | you using 32bit? | 08:24 |
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| Jeroi | or 64? | 08:24 |
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| ganjamaniac | no i use 64 bit | 08:24 |
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| Jeroi | good | 08:24 |
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| ganjamaniac | and i use 8bit | 08:24 |
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| ganjamaniac | so do i have to get the fix in your repo? | 08:25 |
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| Jeroi | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10804892/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.115.0ubuntu2_amd64.deb | 08:26 |
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| Jeroi | install that ganjamaniac | 08:26 |
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| ganjamaniac | ty | 08:26 |
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| Jeroi | just download it to desktop | 08:27 |
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| Jeroi | and run with packet installer | 08:27 |
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| pag | ganjamaniac, Jeroi; just FYI - that update will break Konqueror's and Opera's Flash support | 08:28 |
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| Jeroi | yup | 08:28 |
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| Jeroi | but flash wont work even with firefox, or konguereor when you first install kubuntu | 08:28 |
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| Jeroi | that is the only way for amd64 kubuntu firsttime users to anable fashsuport atleast for firefox | 08:29 |
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| ganjamaniac | ndiswrapper whatever | 08:29 |
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| pag | Jeroi, you can download older version and install it manually... | 08:30 |
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| ganjamaniac | i hope such crap like flash didn't continue | 08:30 |
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| Jeroi | maybe | 08:30 |
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| Jeroi | Then again I dont use konqueror | 08:30 |
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| Jeroi | so I dont bother | 08:30 |
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| Jeroi | when the apt version of that comes, I wil then download that | 08:31 |
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| === gryc_ is now known as gryc |
| Jeroi | and your konqueror is happy | 08:31 |
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| mempman | does anybody know how i can reload specific modules,.....i try using rmmod "mod_name" but i keep getting module is busy error | 08:34 |
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| ganjamaniac | depmod or something | 08:34 |
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| mempman | let me give that a shot | 08:34 |
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| mempman | ganjamania: that won't do it | 08:35 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: insmod module_name | 08:36 |
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| mempman | ill try that | 08:36 |
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| mempman | LInux_Galore: im not tyring to install a module | 08:37 |
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| mempman | im trying to stop the current module, then restart it | 08:37 |
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| mempman | stopping is the problem right now | 08:37 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: rmmod then insmod | 08:37 |
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| mempman | LInux_Galore: i have tried rmmod but i keep gettin "device busy" error | 08:38 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: lsmod will list the modules loaded | 08:38 |
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| mempman | Linux_Galore: yes it will, and i can see the loaded modules | 08:38 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: then something is using it | 08:38 |
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| mempman | how do i stop it | 08:38 |
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| mempman | there is no playback | 08:38 |
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| mempman | nothing is playin anything | 08:39 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: stop the process that is using the driver/hardware | 08:39 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: sudo ksysguard | 08:39 |
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| Jeroi | After installing the flash plugin, you have to tell Konqueror. Go to configure konqueror > plugins > 'scan for plugins', or you can check the box ' scan..startup'. Make sure the '/usr/lib/firefox/plugins' is in the list of directories to scan. | 08:40 |
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| Jeroi | so there | 08:40 |
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| Jeroi | your kongueror is happy | 08:40 |
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| mempman | adnan@adnanslaptop:~$ rmmod soundcore | 08:41 |
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| ganjamaniac | i use knome | 08:41 |
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| mempman | ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd | 08:41 |
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| mempman | adnan@adnanslaptop:~$ rmmod snd | 08:41 |
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| ganjamaniac | a gnome based on kde | 08:41 |
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| Linux_Galore | if you install the adobe flash package you dont have to do anything | 08:41 |
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| Jeroi | was not that bad to fix kongueror flash after that update | 08:41 |
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| mempman | ERROR: Module snd is in use by snd_hda_intel,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device | 08:41 |
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| mempman | adnan@adnanslaptop:~$ rmmod -f soundcore | 08:41 |
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| mempman | ERROR: Removing 'soundcore': Operation not permitted | 08:41 |
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| mempman | adnan@adnanslaptop:~$ sudo rmmod -f soundcore | 08:41 |
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| mempman | [sudo] password for adnan: | 08:41 |
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| mempman | ERROR: Removing 'soundcore': Resource temporarily unavailable | 08:41 |
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| mempman | adnan@adnanslaptop:~$ | 08:41 |
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| mempman | whoops sorry | 08:41 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: eeer sudo | 08:41 |
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| Jeroi | mempman nopaste for long pastes I think is recommended | 08:42 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: a user cant change a system process, use sudo | 08:42 |
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| mempman | sorry bout that | 08:42 |
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| Jeroi | maybe 4 lines of pasting to irc is proper paste thump rule | 08:42 |
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| mempman | adnan@adnanslaptop:~$ sudo rmmod soundcore | 08:42 |
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| mempman | ERROR: Module soundcore is in use by snd | 08:42 |
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| mempman | jeroi: sorry bro | 08:42 |
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| Jeroi | dont mind tho | 08:42 |
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| Linux_Galore | udo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop | 08:43 |
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| Linux_Galore | oops | 08:43 |
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| Linux_Galore | sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop | 08:43 |
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| Linux_Galore | or sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset | 08:44 |
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| mempman | Linux_Galore, i will try that | 08:44 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: sounds like the sound server crashed | 08:45 |
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| mempman | maybe ... | 08:45 |
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| INFOEXCLUDED | pulse audio | 08:45 |
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| Linux_Galore | meh, phonon | 08:46 |
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| mempman | im sleepy | 08:47 |
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| Linux_Galore | mempman: if sound is jammed it usually means a process is stuck, oft not the sound server but an application, ksysguard will show all the running processes and allow you to kill the one that is crashed | 08:48 |
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| mempman | let me give that a shot...... | 08:49 |
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| mempman | LInux_Galore, | 08:49 |
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| mempman | what exactly is PCM in mixer setting? | 08:49 |
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| Jeroi | hopely qhuestion dit use ctrl-alt-delete to restart x | 08:49 |
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| Jeroi | not restart whole livecd | 08:49 |
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| Jeroi | as then his settings get deleted | 08:49 |
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| Jeroi | hey anyone knows here about amarok? | 08:50 |
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| INFOEXCLUDED | use top to see what processes is hogging the computer and kill it | 08:50 |
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| Jeroi | my amarok dont remember my settings | 08:50 |
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| Jeroi | I mean lists | 08:50 |
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| Jeroi | playlists | 08:50 |
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| Jeroi | I want after reboot that amarok should play my last playlist before reboot | 08:51 |
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| Jeroi | saving playlist dont help neither | 08:51 |
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| Jeroi | I need to scan my playlist from media, to load it back to playlists | 08:51 |
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| Jeroi | it is really frustrating | 08:52 |
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| bazhang | Jeroi: did you tell amarok where to scan for music? that does the trick for me | 08:52 |
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| INFOEXCLUDED | a friend of mine tells me RIAA has dosnnted alot of money to amarok | 08:52 |
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| Jeroi | ? | 08:52 |
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| Jeroi | from where? | 08:52 |
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| Jeroi | settings? | 08:52 |
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| Jeroi | problem may be, that my music is on ntfs partition | 08:53 |
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| Jeroi | I have 5 ntfs partitions | 08:53 |
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| Jeroi | 1 ext3 | 08:53 |
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| Linux_Galore | INFOEXCLUDED = troll | 08:54 |
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| === suriel is now known as Bicubic |
| Jeroi | but windows dosend have any problems if you isntall ext3.dll | 08:54 |
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| bazhang | sure is | 08:54 |
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| Jeroi | it sees ext3 disks like normal windows partitions | 08:54 |
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| Jeroi | or was it ext2.dll | 08:54 |
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| Jeroi | dont remeber | 08:55 |
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| Bicubic | um. How do I get kubuntu to actually restart and not reopen previous apps? | 08:55 |
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| Jeroi | Bicubic | 08:55 |
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| Jeroi | system settingsd | 08:55 |
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| bazhang | Jeroi: do you have read and write permisiions to those ntfs partititions? | 08:55 |
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| Jeroi | there is kde session handling | 08:55 |
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| Jeroi | option, dont load last session on startup | 08:55 |
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| Linux_Galore | Bicubic: log out properly ie log out of the session and in the login screen select shutdown | 08:55 |
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| bdgraue | im trying to file a bug in klettres-kde4 but i don't find any project in launchpad that matches :( | 08:55 |
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| Bicubic | okay thank you | 08:55 |
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| Jeroi | bazhang yes | 08:59 |
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| Linux_Galore | http://bugs.kde.org/ | 08:59 |
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| Jeroi | I do | 08:59 |
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| Jeroi | but ftp program cant login users, if users have ntfs partiton home folder | 08:59 |
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| Jeroi | id says: cannot give anonymous privlidges | 09:00 |
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| Jeroi | and you cannot chmod ntfs drives? | 09:00 |
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| Jeroi | or does ntfs partitions use somekind of chmod ruling? | 09:00 |
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| Jeroi | if set ext3 folder | 09:01 |
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| Jeroi | then I can chmod 7777 it | 09:01 |
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| Jeroi | and then my users can login | 09:01 |
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| tmske | does anyone have a working Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02)? I found tutorials but they only seem to work for rev 01 | 09:01 |
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| Linux_Galore | wtf, why are you using NTFS in Linux | 09:02 |
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| Jeroi | because I have windows also | 09:02 |
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| Jeroi | An dused windows like 12 years | 09:02 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: yes so, Linux doesnt need to be NTFS | 09:02 |
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| Jeroi | from 3.1 in school do xp | 09:02 |
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| Jeroi | to* | 09:02 |
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| Jeroi | Linux_Galore my linux is on ext3 drive | 09:02 |
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| Jeroi | but my storage drives are ntfs | 09:03 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: ok fine | 09:03 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: aaah yeah the drive permissions have been set | 09:03 |
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| Linux_Galore | have not* | 09:03 |
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| Jeroi | can I give permissions to ntfs drive? | 09:04 |
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| === sivaji is now known as ksivaji |
| Jeroi | with chmod command and chown | 09:04 |
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| Linux_Galore | sudo konqueror then just go the /media click on the right click on the driver -> properties then set the permissions | 09:04 |
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| Linux_Galore | oops | 09:04 |
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| Linux_Galore | sudo konqueror then just go the /media directory then right click on the drive -> properties then set the permissions | 09:05 |
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| Jeroi | My other problem is taht ftp server dont allow my local users password, if they have group anime-fan, but it allows if my users have group ftp | 09:05 |
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| LimCore | how to run COMPIZ? with compiz-fussion the kde is running on top of it or what? and how to have the 3d cube desktops and other stuff | 09:05 |
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| Linux_Galore | !compiz | 09:06 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 09:06 |
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| Jeroi | so | 09:06 |
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| Jeroi | If I keep group in ftp, I should be ok | 09:06 |
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| Linux_Galore | LimCore: should wait for KDE 4 that has a compiz-fusion manager | 09:06 |
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| Jeroi | as ftp program sets homefolder anyway | 09:06 |
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| Jeroi | for that partical local user | 09:06 |
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| Jeroi | and restricts their right | 09:07 |
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| Jeroi | +s | 09:07 |
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| LimCore | Linux_Galore: and before that? | 09:07 |
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| Linux_Galore | LimCore: before then you have allot of stuffing around | 09:07 |
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| sigra | anyone know how to install xine..I using adept package manager in kde but xine is greyed out so i can not select it for install? | 09:07 |
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| Jeroi | whats good in compizfusion? | 09:08 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: have you got a decent video card for starters | 09:08 |
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| Jeroi | 8600GT | 09:08 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: just use normal Ubuntu then | 09:08 |
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| se7en | LimCore: it works fine even in kde3 | 09:08 |
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| Jeroi | yeah | 09:08 |
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| Jeroi | Bought this because it is cheap, but can manage htcp signals better than 8800 | 09:09 |
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| LimCore | se7en: hmm so howto...? | 09:09 |
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| sigra | anyone else have xine working on kde 4 | 09:09 |
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| se7en | !compiz | 09:09 |
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| ubotu | Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 09:09 |
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| ubuntu_ | There is any alpha / beta with kde4 ? | 09:09 |
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| sigra | KDE 4 is at rc 2 | 09:09 |
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| Linux_Galore | I think there is a Kubuntu hardie image with kde 4 | 09:09 |
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| Jeroi | as I watch alot videos thrue my compt to lcd | 09:10 |
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| ubuntu_ | I use this image now, but here is 3.5.8 | 09:10 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: you dont need compiz for video | 09:10 |
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| Jeroi | I know | 09:10 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: in fact it slows it down | 09:10 |
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| Jeroi | I used that beryl with edgy | 09:10 |
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| Jeroi | but it freesed alot of normal using | 09:10 |
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| Jeroi | so it sucked totally | 09:11 |
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| sigra | I have KDE 4 RC2 on kubuntu 7.10 but i cannot get flash or xine work with it. | 09:11 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: compiz-fussion is beryl | 09:11 |
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| Jeroi | ok | 09:11 |
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| Linux_Galore | Ive already tried compiz-fussion, cpu runs hot and UI is unstable | 09:12 |
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| sigra | compiz-fussion runs excellent on my machine | 09:12 |
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| Jeroi | well I dont need that much eye candy | 09:13 |
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| * ksivaji | 09:13 |
| Jeroi | I ust need working gui for starters | 09:13 |
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| Jeroi | just | 09:13 |
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| Linux_Galore | Im happy to wait for kde 4.1 with better compiz/plasma integration | 09:13 |
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| Jeroi | that said, I hope that kde4 brings not laggy window moving, not laggy firefox scrollbar starting to move | 09:14 |
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| Linux_Galore | I remember kde 2.0 and kde 3.0 releases, train wrecks | 09:14 |
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| se7en | LimCore: if your graphic card driver is working just sudo apt-get install compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extracompizconfig-settings-manager emerald librsvg2-common and than compiz --replace | 09:14 |
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| awag22 | anyone ever had firefox suddenly stop letting you restore sessions after a crash? | 09:15 |
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| awag22 | i have the option enabled in settings | 09:15 |
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| awag22 | to restore on start | 09:15 |
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| Linux_Galore | awag22: yes, run killall -9 firefox-bin | 09:15 |
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| awag22 | what does the -9 do? | 09:16 |
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| Jeroi | or go to kde system settings | 09:16 |
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| Linux_Galore | awag22: kills the process without being nice about it | 09:16 |
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| Jeroi | if you use kde | 09:16 |
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| awag22 | yes i use kde | 09:16 |
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| Jeroi | But that command is faster | 09:16 |
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| awag22 | and after i do this i should be able to restore my previous session? | 09:17 |
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| Linux_Galore | every now and again firefox jams up on me and wont restart so I use the killall -9 firefox-bin command | 09:17 |
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| Linux_Galore | awag22: it will ask you if you want to restore the last session - yes | 09:18 |
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| se7en | Jeroi: just to understand what would he do in kde system settings? | 09:18 |
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| awag22 | ok i'll try it in a minute, but why will this suddenly make firefox want to let me restore sessions again? i can start firefox no problem after it crashes, it just automatically goes to a blank page, with no prompt for session restore | 09:20 |
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| awag22 | even though i have restore on start enabled | 09:20 |
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| Jeroi | awag22 | 09:21 |
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| Jeroi | because you already have firefox session | 09:21 |
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| Jeroi | that is crashed | 09:22 |
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| Jeroi | firefox assumes that you just open new window to that session | 09:22 |
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| Jeroi | or that is what I believe | 09:22 |
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| awag22 | ah, that makes sense | 09:22 |
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| Jeroi | when you kill all firefox, then open firefox, it should ask to open last session | 09:22 |
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| Jeroi | if you lost your session | 09:23 |
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| Linux_Galore | awag22: if it doesnt ask to open your last session it means the old session is still running and broken | 09:23 |
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| Jeroi | firefox wont ask it | 09:23 |
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| Jeroi | until you have colsed firefox next time with sites on tabs | 09:24 |
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| awag22 | thanks guys, i'll try this as soon as a finish using my current firefox session | 09:24 |
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| awag22 | and i guess since kdm saves my kde sessions | 09:24 |
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| awag22 | i keep having that rouge firefox session running in the background even when i restart? | 09:24 |
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| Jeroi | I removed session loading from kde | 09:24 |
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| Linux_Galore | awag22: no | 09:24 |
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| Jeroi | I truly hated that | 09:25 |
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| Jeroi | like 5 programs starts on startup suddenly when I want to open texteditor just to take phonenumber to textfile | 09:25 |
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| Linux_Galore | awag22: it will start firefox yes but a new session on a restart | 09:25 |
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| awag22 | hmm, shouldn't that new session give me the option to restore the session that was there when i restarted ? | 09:26 |
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| Jeroi | no | 09:26 |
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| Pennycook | I've got a BASH question; is there any nice way to go through all the files in a directory and rename them if they meet a certain criteria? I've tried using for i in $( ls ) ; do, but some of the file names have spaces in | 09:26 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: heh, I wrote a script that open a little QT query window noting what i still running and do i want to kill it | 09:26 |
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| Linux_Galore | opens* | 09:26 |
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| kub^ | awag22: i think what you need for that is an addon called tab mix | 09:27 |
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| llutz | Pennycook: use find + xargs | 09:27 |
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| Jeroi | really? | 09:27 |
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| Jeroi | I want that too | 09:27 |
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| Jeroi | but does kde have servicehandling? | 09:27 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: windows 95 had it I cant understand why kde hasnt got it | 09:27 |
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| Jeroi | one thing about kde tho | 09:28 |
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| llutz | Pennycook: if you use" for i in ..." then use "$i" to work with spaces in names | 09:28 |
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| Jeroi | the sessiond handling dosent remeber some of the program closings | 09:28 |
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| Jeroi | if in this session I close 1 program, kde opens taht program on reboot anyways | 09:28 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: only if you dont log out | 09:28 |
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| Jeroi | ah | 09:29 |
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| Pennycook | I'll try that. Thanks llutz | 09:29 |
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| Jeroi | I shut always from l-menu-logout, reboot | 09:29 |
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| Jeroi | k-menu | 09:29 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: shutdown in KDE is really poorly implimented | 09:29 |
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| Jeroi | nice | 09:29 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: you can actually tell kde not to start certain apps | 09:30 |
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| Linux_Galore | to work around it | 09:30 |
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| Jeroi | lol | 09:30 |
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| Linux_Galore | it in kcontrol | 09:30 |
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| Linux_Galore | its* | 09:30 |
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| Jeroi | well | 09:30 |
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| Jeroi | I shutdown the session handling from kde | 09:30 |
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| Jeroi | it helped a lot | 09:31 |
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| Linux_Galore | I have a long list of stuff noted not to be automatically started by kde | 09:31 |
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| Jeroi | :D | 09:31 |
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| Linux_Galore | its very easy to setup | 09:31 |
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| Jeroi | I am happy that some command that I typed to save alsa settings worked | 09:32 |
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| Jeroi | I just noticed that spdif works after reboot | 09:32 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: yeah, another thing I dont like is the lack of a good scanner config tool and what is available makes BeOS look good | 09:33 |
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| Jeroi | it is most stupid thing to have alsa-mixer, that dont save your settings when you close it | 09:33 |
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| llutz | Jeroi: use alsactl store to save it | 09:33 |
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| Jeroi | yes | 09:33 |
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| Jeroi | that command it was | 09:33 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: I ended up writing my own program to manage a few network scanners I have | 09:33 |
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| Jeroi | lol | 09:34 |
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| Jeroi | Why dont you publicy them? | 09:34 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: because they are hacks and centric to my hardware setup ie I dont offer much in the way of configuration | 09:35 |
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| Linux_Galore | imagine hacking the code to define the hardware parameters | 09:35 |
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| Jeroi | Linux_Galore do you knoiw what was huge problem to me with kubuntu install? | 09:36 |
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| Linux_Galore | I cant see a normal user doing that | 09:36 |
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| Pennycook | llutz: for file in $( find /music );... with an echo $file still gives me broken filenames at spaces; am I missing an argument to find? | 09:36 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: what | 09:36 |
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| Jeroi | 1. 1 ata133 disk | 09:36 |
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| Jeroi | 2. 2 x SATA2 drives | 09:36 |
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| llutz | Pennycook: echo "$file" | 09:36 |
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| Jeroi | myt mobo presumes default that ata133 drives are primary | 09:37 |
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| Jeroi | sata2 drives come secundary | 09:37 |
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| Jeroi | so | 09:37 |
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| llutz | Pennycook: find /music -name abc* -exec rm {} \; | 09:37 |
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| Jeroi | at insatller, installer presume that my windows is on disk0 | 09:37 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: yeah, heard about that | 09:37 |
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| Jeroi | withc not true | 09:37 |
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| Jeroi | as my windows is disk1.0 | 09:38 |
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| Jeroi | so grub is installed into disk0 | 09:38 |
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| Jeroi | but | 09:38 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: unplug the drive | 09:38 |
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| Pennycook | llutz: Sorry, that was a typo on my part, with "" it doesn't work either. | 09:38 |
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| Jeroi | right after operating system starts to use disks | 09:38 |
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| Jeroi | mobo starts to use sata2 primary | 09:38 |
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| Jeroi | then ata133 secundary | 09:39 |
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| Jeroi | then when I am at grub | 09:39 |
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| Jeroi | I must edit the grub to sotart linux from 0,4 | 09:39 |
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| Jeroi | not 1.4 | 09:39 |
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| Jeroi | thats a evil thing | 09:39 |
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| Jeroi | an evil | 09:39 |
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| Jeroi | well | 09:40 |
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| Linux_Galore | Jeroi: I never dual boot' | 09:40 |
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| Pennycook | llutz: Problem with using -exec rm is that I only want to delete the .mp3 file if a .wma file already exists. soundKonverter messed up and I've got 5300 .mp3 files floating around with no sound | 09:40 |
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| Jeroi | I am buying my 3rd sata2 drive soon | 09:40 |
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| Linux_Galore | PC's are cheap why bother | 09:41 |
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| Jeroi | so I unplug my ata133 drive then | 09:41 |
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| Jeroi | I should not have problems anymore | 09:41 |
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| dsmith_ | hello room I have an issue: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock | 09:43 |
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| dsmith_ | I copied the fstab lines verbatim fromone machine to the other | 09:43 |
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| dsmith_ | i keep getting an error | 09:43 |
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| dsmith_ | here is a line from my fstab: 192.168.0.152:/export/Disk-1/ /media/DawnNAS2 nfs rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,rw,user,auto 0 0 | 09:44 |
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| kristjan_ | how to recover "$HOME/.bashrc file"? | 09:44 |
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| dsmith_ | look ok? | 09:44 |
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| bazhang | !night | 09:47 |
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| ubotu | It's the middle of the night in the US and Europe, and surrounds. This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question. Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake. This is particularly true in the quieter channels. | 09:47 |
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| dsmith_ | bazhang, and your point being? lol | 09:48 |
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| dsmith_ | sup man | 09:48 |
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| bazhang | dsmith_: surely someone will help you as soon as they get up | 09:48 |
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| dsmith_ | i'll figure it out in time | 09:49 |
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| dsmith_ | :) | 09:49 |
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| Lynoure | bazhang: heh, "US and Europe and surroundings" is most of the globe | 09:49 |
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| bazhang | dsmith_: sorry but that is way above my knowledge level :} | 09:49 |
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| dsmith_ | how long you been using linux now? | 09:49 |
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| bazhang | Lynoure: true dat | 09:49 |
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| bazhang | dsmith me? | 09:49 |
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| dsmith_ | yes u | 09:49 |
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| bazhang | year plus | 09:50 |
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| dsmith_ | aren't you new in here? | 09:50 |
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| bazhang | not really--just mostly hang in #ubuntu--lots easier over there :} | 09:50 |
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| dsmith_ | :) | 09:51 |
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| pag | dsmith_, do you have nfs-common installed? | 09:51 |
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| dsmith_ | hmmm | 09:51 |
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| dsmith_ | let me check | 09:51 |
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| dsmith_ | that may explain | 09:51 |
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| dsmith_ | heh nope | 09:51 |
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| dsmith_ | :) | 09:51 |
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| dsmith_ | been awhile since I poked with nfs and a server | 09:52 |
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| dsmith_ | no wonder....duh | 09:52 |
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| dsmith_ | pag: thx alot man | 09:53 |
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| pag | dsmith_, np :) | 09:53 |
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| dsmith_ | see,if I am not actively using something. I tend to forget about it | 09:53 |
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| dsmith_ | i hooked up my Gf's NAS and copied over her fstab files to my lappy | 09:54 |
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| dsmith_ | I was like wtf.. is going on | 09:54 |
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| dsmith_ | again thx again and MErry Xmas | 09:54 |
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| bazhang | nice! | 09:56 |
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| Pennycook | Is there any way to make a bash script wait? I think it's running my awk on a partially complete file | 09:56 |
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| NickPresta | Pennycook, `man sleep` | 09:57 |
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| se7en | i need some help with kmobiletools ... i get a signal level an a battery level and thats about it phone book doesen't work and nothing else | 09:59 |
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| Pennycook | Thanks NickPresta | 10:00 |
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| gaps | hi an alle | 10:00 |
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| bazhang | hi gaps | 10:02 |
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| Pennycook | Something keeps going wrong. >.< Whenever I run my awk command it gets rid of most of the file: awk '{gsub("wma", "mp3", $0); print>FILENAME}' wmas.lst | 10:05 |
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| se7en | anyone use kmobiletools | 10:05 |
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| cj_ | hi | 10:13 |
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| cj_ | how do i install video codecs on kubuntu | 10:14 |
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| cj_ | and also where are the desktop effects? | 10:14 |
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| pag | cj_, open konsole and type " sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras " | 10:15 |
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| pag | !compiz | cj_ | 10:15 |
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| ubotu | cj_: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion | 10:15 |
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| cj_ | is kubuntu lagging behind ubuntu? | 10:15 |
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| stdin | no, compiz just doesn't work that well with kde | 10:16 |
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| cj_ | how about kde 4? | 10:16 |
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| pag | cj_, kde4 will have effect of its own | 10:16 |
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| stdin | and nice ones too :) | 10:17 |
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| cj_ | how safe is it to install the packages in the /topic? last time i tried using it after installing from a beta gutsy install cd it hosed apt | 10:18 |
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| stdin | safe, as long as you *read* the instructions ;) | 10:18 |
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| cj_ | stdin, that i did | 10:19 |
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| bazhang | haha | 10:19 |
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| === dread_ is now known as DreadKnight |
| cj_ | file collisons, perhaps the install cd had files in different places | 10:19 |
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| stdin | there are only file collisions if you don't remove the old packages first (which it says to do in the instructions) | 10:20 |
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| cj_ | so, kubuntu ships with kde4 libs already? | 10:20 |
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| stdin | no | 10:21 |
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| cj_ | i only never uninstalled as i had never previously tried kde4 on this system | 10:21 |
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| stdin | as long as you do what the instructions say, you won't get errors | 10:21 |
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| cj_ | i'll give it another go. cheers for the inspiration stdin | 10:22 |
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| DreadKnight | is anyone using hardy with kde4 allready? | 10:23 |
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| stdin | DreadKnight: yes (but hardy discussion in #ubuntu+1 ) | 10:23 |
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| DreadKnight | stdin: ok, thanks :0 | 10:23 |
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| ehamberg | If I add a new repository and install package foo (newer version than the one in the default repositories) and then remove that repo, how can I downgrade to kubuntu's version? | 10:24 |
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| llutz | aptitude install package=version.number | 10:25 |
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| stdin | find what version kubuntu has "apt-cache policy foo" and then install it with "sudo apt-get install foo=old-version" | 10:25 |
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| ehamberg | stdin, llutz: worked like a charm. Thanks | 10:27 |
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| === small_stripes is now known as tytons |
| anakin_ | why am i getting this message "tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME" when i try smbclient -L hostname? | 10:37 |
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| heksa | any idea what codec i'm missing in kubuntu, because none of the players (vlc,mplayer, xine) wont play standard xvid file. it only shows rainbow colors. but the file still works in unbuntu-desktop in my friends computer. i have installed w32codecs and kubuntu-restricted-extras. still no go :/ | 10:38 |
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| pag | heksa, try installing libxvidcore4 | 10:39 |
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| tid-wave | hello. after upgrading some packages, arts got broken and amarok failed to start whenever the kde sound system was active. If I go to the system settings and re-enable the sound system it says "Starting sound system" and the dialog never closes. | 10:40 |
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| tid-wave | the progress bar goes from 0 to 100% again and again .. any ideas about how can I fix this? | 10:41 |
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| === schiste__ is now known as schiste |
| heksa | pag: installed allready | 10:42 |
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| heksa | just strange that never the less i have all the needed codecs installed, still it shows rainbow colors. even reinstalled players, no go | 10:44 |
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| Futt | Anyone tested KDE4rc2 on Gutsy? | 10:48 |
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| Dekans | Futt: I did | 10:49 |
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| Futt | OK, work out OK for you? | 10:51 |
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| === desti_T2 is now known as desti |
| Futt | Been having some weird issues, like missing icons and just a gray bar instead of the "kicker" | 10:52 |
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| Dekans | kicker was almost working | 10:52 |
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| Futt | Screenshot: http://bayimg.com/JaIEJaabG | 10:52 |
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| Dekans | I had a K menu \o/ | 10:52 |
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| Futt | Heh yeah me too, K menu and a clock | 10:52 |
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| Futt | But the rest was just a huge dark gray slab covering 1/6 of the screen or something | 10:53 |
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| Dekans | but I did not managed to use corrrectly the widgets | 10:53 |
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| Futt | No can't get widgets to dock in kicker, just on the desktop | 10:53 |
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| Dekans | with the first alpha I could move the clock from desktop to systray | 10:54 |
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| Dekans | and vice-versa | 10:54 |
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| Futt | No 3D accel on this puter thou (old IBM laptop with a Savage gfx card) - could be plasma barfing or something | 10:54 |
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| Futt | If I turn on desktop effects it goes completely wonky | 10:54 |
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| Dekans | with 3D accel, openGL is very slow | 10:55 |
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| Dekans | and Xrander is a minefield | 10:55 |
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| Dekans | and I don't have all the activated effects | 10:56 |
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| Dekans | like thumbnails | 10:56 |
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| Futt | No I turned off all effects, kicker still doesn't work thou | 10:56 |
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| Futt | Widgets seem fine, except they wont dock in what should probably be the kicker... | 10:56 |
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| Dekans | waiting for KDE 4.1 :p | 10:57 |
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| Futt | Hehe yeah - bring on SP1 :P | 10:57 |
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| Dekans | I don't know if plasma wil be ready in 3 weeks | 10:57 |
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| Futt | No things seem pretty shaky for a release candidate if you ask me... | 10:58 |
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| Futt | Looks like they adopted the Microsoft terminology.. RC=alpha, release=beta, SP1=RC, SP2=release etc | 10:59 |
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| Futt | ;) | 10:59 |
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| Futt | Also - could be because of the other issues - but why is everyting so friggin huge? | 11:00 |
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| Dekans | I think 4.1 will be a complete release | 11:00 |
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| Dekans | but it looks like vista yes XD | 11:00 |
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| Futt | Guessing the kicker isnt supposed to take up 1/6 of the screen but still | 11:00 |
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| vbgunz | anybody install the latest nvidia driver from nvidia? 169.07? | 11:01 |
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| Futt | Fisher-Price "My First GUI" :P | 11:01 |
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| Xcell | lol | 11:01 |
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| vbgunz | has it destroyed your games e.g., warsow, foobilliard, etc? | 11:01 |
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| vbgunz | did you fix it somehow, how? | 11:02 |
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| Xcell | coleco was my 1rst | 11:02 |
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| Futt | Parents bought a C= 64 sometime in the mid 80s... When was the Coleco out? | 11:03 |
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| Xcell | 75 | 11:03 |
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| Futt | Heh I was 1 year old then :P | 11:03 |
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| Xcell | ping pong | 11:03 |
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| Xcell | 1 was 15 | 11:03 |
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| freitasx | hallo | 11:03 |
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| Xcell | im still 39 | 11:04 |
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| Dekans | I was -10 :p | 11:04 |
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| Futt | Yeah I'm 29 :P | 11:05 |
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| Futt | Still love my C= games too | 11:06 |
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| freitasx | yeah | 11:06 |
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| Futt | Though I must say I felt pretty stupid playing Frogger on my XBox 360 heh | 11:06 |
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| Futt | And got me a GP2X just to run Frodo | 11:07 |
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| Futt | Good times | 11:07 |
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| Futt | What's the new "kicker" called anyway? Apparently not kicker ;) Is it just another widget? | 11:09 |
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| risto | what text editor you guys use ??? | 11:11 |
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| Futt | Kwrite | 11:12 |
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| Futt | or vim if console | 11:12 |
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| cj_ | whats the best way of uninstalling all the kde4 packages in the /topic? | 11:14 |
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| Futt | apt-get remove the manually installed ones | 11:15 |
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| Futt | then do an apt-get autoremove to nuke unused dependencies | 11:15 |
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| cj_ | cheers Futt. sure beats grep install /var/log/dpkg.log | sed -n '3181,3468p' | cut -d' ' -f5 | xargs apt-get remove | 11:16 |
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| Futt | I dunno, personally I am a big fan of overcomplicating things :P | 11:18 |
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| travkin | Is there users, who use Kubuntu 8.04 alpha 2? | 11:19 |
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| travkin | I have problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=648099 | 11:19 |
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| travkin | GTK isnt working, no theme using :/ | 11:20 |
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| cj_ | Futt, still seems to be lots of cruft | 11:20 |
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| Lynoure | travkin: try #ubuntu+1 | 11:20 |
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| Lynoure | travkin: that's the support channel for the upcoming release | 11:20 |
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| travkin | Okay, thank you. | 11:20 |
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| Futt | cj_: hm what's left? | 11:22 |
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| Pennycook | bazhang: Was it you that recommended qtparted to me yesterday? | 11:27 |
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| eshat | hey all,... my notebook hotkeys doesn't work properly,... if i press FN+Up or FN+Down i only see this symbol saying, that i switch volume between 0% and 11% but that does affect volume at all... mute and unmute works,... any ideas? | 11:28 |
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| Pennycook | Anybody else at all experienced with qtparted? | 11:32 |
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| pag | Pennycook, I've used it couple of years ago.. | 11:33 |
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| gaps | kennt jemand ein gutes freebook von apache 2.2 | 11:35 |
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| gaps | hauptsächlich konfiguration | 11:35 |
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| Pennycook | pag: Okay. I've got a 250GB HDD with several partitions; one is my /swap, one is my / and another is an ntfs partition mounted at /media/sda6. I wanted to format sda6 as ext3 but qtparted says I have to unmount the entire drive before I can partition it | 11:36 |
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| Lynoure | gaps: if you have a configuration problem, there are plenty of people that can help you, if you can ask in English | 11:36 |
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| Lynoure | gaps: then there is also #kubuntu-de and #ubuntu-de, for German. | 11:36 |
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| gaps | oh sorry | 11:37 |
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| gaps | im change the channel | 11:37 |
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| pag | Pennycook, sounds reasonable. just start you computer with LiveCD | 11:37 |
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| * Pennycook facepalm. | 11:38 |
| ax1s | anyone else here having a problem changing the default webcam port with Kopete | 11:38 |
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| Pennycook | Of course. Thanks | 11:38 |
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| ax1s | please check out the bug i filed and see if we can get this rolling | 11:38 |
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| === ax1s is now known as gr1dlocked |
| Lynoure | 8.04 Kubuntu will not be LTS? | 11:40 |
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| pag | Lynoure, afaik no it won't | 11:40 |
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| Lynoure | and the next LTS version is when? | 11:41 |
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| gr1dlocked | isnt 6.06 supported till 2010 | 11:41 |
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| pag | Lynoure, erm.. 9.04 maybe? :\ | 11:41 |
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| Lynoure | There are some systems that were supposed to go from LTS to LTS, and waiting till 2010 for the next one is quite long... | 11:42 |
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| gr1dlocked | !info pinning | 11:42 |
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| ubotu | Package pinning does not exist in gutsy | 11:42 |
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| gr1dlocked | ??????????? | 11:43 |
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| Lynoure | gr1dlocked: supported yes, horribly ancienty by then, unfortunately yes, too | 11:43 |
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| Lynoure | gr1dlocked: it's a technique, not a package | 11:43 |
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| Lynoure | !pinning | 11:43 |
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| ubotu | pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto | 11:43 |
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| gr1dlocked | thx | 11:43 |
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| gr1dlocked | i think gutsy is using SVN release of kopete | 11:43 |
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| gr1dlocked | and 0.12.7 breaks changing incomming webcam port | 11:43 |
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| gr1dlocked | also anyone know what i should select when the package update breaks on libqt3-mt | 11:44 |
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| gr1dlocked | yes/no/default | 11:45 |
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| gr1dlocked | Lynoure: Is 6.06 still using the old firefox? | 11:46 |
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| dreamcoder | should i use 64bit kubuntu or 32bit? | 11:47 |
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| pag | gr1dlocked, 1.5.x, iirc. | 11:47 |
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| gr1dlocked | dreamcoder: how much ram do you have | 11:47 |
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| gr1dlocked | 1.5 .. :/ | 11:47 |
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| dreamcoder | 1gb at mo i kno i wont be getting more than 4gb for a while | 11:47 |
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| gr1dlocked | use 32 for now IMO | 11:48 |
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| dreamcoder | okie | 11:48 |
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| pag | dreamcoder, if you do not *need* 64bit, then you'll be better off with 32bit | 11:48 |
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| Lynoure | gr1dlocked: old being how old? :) | 11:48 |
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| gr1dlocked | less hassles, plus i've looked up benchmarks and haven't seen any gains | 11:48 |
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| dreamcoder | i was going to use 64bit just because i encode videos alot and wondered if it wud be a speed increase | 11:48 |
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| gr1dlocked | Lynoure: Well you couldn't download half the themes on firefox.org :/ | 11:48 |
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| Lynoure | gr1dlocked: I would not recommend LTS -> LTS paths for people wanting to theme a lot of stuff :) | 11:49 |
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| gr1dlocked | dreamcoder: Lookup benchmarks, but from my research I haven't seen any real gains | 11:49 |
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| dreamcoder | okie thanks | 11:49 |
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| gr1dlocked | Lynoure: True.. | 11:50 |
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| dreamcoder | i have been using 64bit for a while now... only thing that was annoying me is cant get frostwire to work | 11:50 |
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| gr1dlocked | dreamcoder: If you can get a 64 bit system up and running, that would be great, put more pressure on developers to start moving to64 | 11:51 |
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| dreamcoder | i have it all ready n working apart from the frostwire java problem | 11:51 |
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| dreamcoder | and thus was going to go back to 32bit | 11:52 |
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| gr1dlocked | i'm not familiar with how, but can't you emu 32 bit web browser/java | 11:52 |
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| dreamcoder | yes i have a 32bit browser installed | 11:52 |
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| dreamcoder | swifteasel | 11:53 |
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| jackcy | hi there, anybody who can help me with python tutorial? | 11:53 |
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| dreamcoder | but frostwire is just really annoying lol i have chose the 1.4 java sun and it still refuses to see my java.... | 11:53 |
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| eshat | hey all,... my notebook hotkeys doesn't work properly,... if i press FN+Up or FN+Down i only see this symbol saying, that i switch volume between 0% and 11% but that does affect volume at all... mute and unmute works,... any ideas? | 11:54 |
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| gr1dlocked | dreamcoder: what is frostwire for? i think p2p but what network | 11:54 |
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| gr1dlocked | limewire eh | 11:54 |
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| posingaspopular | gr1dlocked: limewire | 11:55 |
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| dreamcoder | yea | 11:55 |
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| posingaspopular | jackcy: i know a little python, i can try | 11:55 |
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| gr1dlocked | dreamcoder: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-477363.html <-- looks like sambehera fixed it | 11:57 |
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| dreamcoder | i have just fixed it myself hahaha eee thanks though! | 11:57 |
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| gr1dlocked | nice one brotha | 11:58 |
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| gr1dlocked | =D | 11:58 |
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| dreamcoder | i tried using 32bit java and it worked a treat ! | 11:58 |
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| dreamcoder | from java 1.7 isnt that supposed to be 64bit compliant? | 11:58 |
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| gr1dlocked | not sure %P | 11:59 |
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| gr1dlocked | i am waiting for official java 64 | 11:59 |
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| eshat | i ll try the hardy alpha now ,... :D | 11:59 |
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| dreamcoder | when is that due for releasE? | 11:59 |
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| eshat | is there a way to blacklist a module with kernel parameters ? | 11:59 |
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| gr1dlocked | is there any point in registering bugs for release or should i just try the lates beta | 12:01 |
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| gr1dlocked | releases* | 12:01 |
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| posingaspopular | gr1dlocked: register the bugs | 12:02 |
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| posingaspopular | but helping test teh alpha/betas is great too | 12:02 |
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| gr1dlocked | cool | 12:02 |
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| gr1dlocked | anyone here using the latest alpha/beta for kubuntu ? do you know which version of kopete it includes | 12:04 |
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| gr1dlocked | offhand | 12:04 |
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| ebaad | hello, need help with gallery2 please | 12:05 |
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| noaXess | hi all | 12:05 |
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| ebaad | can somebody help me with gallery2 seeetup | 12:05 |
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| pag | gr1dlocked, " Version 4:3.5.8-1ubuntu3 (hardy) " | 12:05 |
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| noaXess | can't watch a dvd in my dvd drive.. have tried kaffeine and vlc.. | 12:05 |
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| gr1dlocked | pag: but which kopete version is that | 12:06 |
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| noaXess | kaffeine means source seems encrypted | 12:06 |
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| gr1dlocked | pag: 0.12.# | 12:06 |
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| noaXess | !dvd | 12:06 |
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| ubotu | For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs | 12:06 |
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| gr1dlocked | !info kopete | 12:06 |
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| pag | gr1dlocked, hmm.. probably .7? | 12:06 |
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| ubotu | kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 7140 kB, installed size 19708 kB | 12:06 |
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| ebaad | I'm running latest kubuntu and just tried to install galler2 but could not bring up the index.php configure window | 12:07 |
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| jackcy | libdvdcss2 for dvd support can easily be installes with: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh | 12:07 |
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| gr1dlocked | pag: have you tried to receive any webcam stuff? | 12:07 |
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| Kopfgeldjaeger | hello | 12:07 |
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| Kopfgeldjaeger | where can i set the bitrate for my mp3 files (want to rip them from an audio cd) in k3b? | 12:08 |
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| pag | gr1dlocked, I'm on gutsy... last time I did try, it worked fine... but it's been a while since I did, so I'm not even sure which Kopete version I was running then | 12:08 |
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| gr1dlocked | pag: well changing the default webcam port has worked fine in all previous versions .. just seems like its stuck at 6891 on 0.12.7 | 12:09 |
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| gr1dlocked | i am waitinf for ppl with webcams on my list to wake up so i can see if reverting to 0.12.4 fixes | 12:10 |
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| === wiktor is now known as witkro |
| === witkro is now known as wiktor |
| === wiktor is now known as wiktor[PL] |
| gr1dlocked | reverting to an older version didn't fix.. gonna re install feisty and see if the issue persists | 12:16 |
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| gr1dlocked | uhg | 12:16 |
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| === mike__ is now known as Mike32 |
| voonte | What's the recommended way to install KDE4 (latest trunk) in Kubuntu (hardy alpha)? | 12:28 |
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| chris19 | halloooo =) | 12:32 |
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| chris19 | spricht zufällig jemand deutsch hier? | 12:32 |
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| === miguel_ is now known as Qaldune |
| chris19 | anyone who speaks german? | 12:34 |
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| Hamra | i havea question about the kde 4 live cd mentioned in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php , can way install kde4 from it, or just try it? | 12:44 |
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| Hamra | we* | 12:45 |
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| FSHero | Hello everybody; I used to use Xubuntu (Feisty), and whenever I used apt-get to install packages or download updates it used to ask me before downloading. How can I get the same behaviour in Kubuntu (Feisty)? | 12:48 |
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| gr1dlocked | amsn freezes when logging in | 12:53 |
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| gr1dlocked | sweet | 12:53 |
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| gr1dlocked | why did gutsy break msn | 12:53 |
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| gr1dlocked | gutsy.. taking 2 steps forward, 3 steps back | 12:56 |
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| gr1dlocked | 4 steps back even | 12:56 |
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| === comp11 is now known as silvia_18 |
| === comp11 is now known as silvia_18 |
| risto | is there pacage for eclipse to install PDT? | 13:10 |
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| kadargo | hy folks | 13:16 |
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| kadargo | i got a small problem with ubuntu gusty...... its about libqt3-mt... | 13:17 |
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| gr1dlocked | yeah i'd like to know too | 13:17 |
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| gr1dlocked | i filed a bug | 13:17 |
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| gr1dlocked | seems pretty wack for a release to have that happen eh | 13:18 |
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| kadargo | yes ;) | 13:18 |
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| gr1dlocked | i'm starting to wonder if they even test before releasing anymore | 13:18 |
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| gr1dlocked | also gutsy breaks changing default webcam port.. ?????? .. uhg | 13:18 |
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| kadargo | i think yes... debian users seem to have the same prob | 13:18 |
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| gr1dlocked | really | 13:18 |
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| gr1dlocked | hrm | 13:19 |
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| kadargo | BUT: why cant i find a solution on the net ??? i hate those kinds of problems | 13:19 |
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| gr1dlocked | yeah.. i can't find anything | 13:19 |
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| gr1dlocked | and everybody is playing with kde 4 and Hardy | 13:19 |
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| gr1dlocked | like fix the release first | 13:19 |
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| kadargo | <--- wonders why nobody response with a solution... ;) | 13:20 |
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| gr1dlocked | same | 13:20 |
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| gr1dlocked | i might revert to feisty | 13:21 |
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| gr1dlocked | :/ | 13:21 |
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| kadargo | does it work with feisty ? | 13:21 |
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| gr1dlocked | yah, beautifully | 13:21 |
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| kadargo | big deal | 13:21 |
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| gr1dlocked | i've also removed this version, and installed the old version... | 13:21 |
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| gr1dlocked | of kopete.. and that did not help | 13:21 |
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| gr1dlocked | i think it relates to the qt3 issue | 13:21 |
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| jpatrick | gr1dlocked: that bug is fixed in gutsy-updates | 13:21 |
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| gr1dlocked | jpatrick: kopete not changing port, or qt3 | 13:22 |
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| kadargo | hy jpatrick.. you know a solution for the libqt3-mt update issue ? | 13:22 |
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| jpatrick | gr1dlocked: ah, I thought it was the kopete crashing bug | 13:22 |
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| jpatrick | kadargo: nop, haven't had a problem with libqt3-mt | 13:22 |
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| gr1dlocked | jpatrick: have you installed a fresh install of gutsy? | 13:23 |
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| gr1dlocked | and tried to update? | 13:23 |
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| jpatrick | gr1dlocked: I upgraded from feisty | 13:23 |
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| gr1dlocked | yeah | 13:23 |
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| gr1dlocked | if you install fresh it bugs out | 13:23 |
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| gr1dlocked | the sources.list get messed up and everything | 13:24 |
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| jpatrick | :| weird.. | 13:24 |
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| kadargo | great.. update works.. but a clean fresh install not ;) | 13:24 |
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| gr1dlocked | lol | 13:24 |
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| gr1dlocked | so weird | 13:24 |
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| kadargo | yes | 13:24 |
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| kadargo | and nobody here who knows something about it | 13:25 |
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| gr1dlocked | have you tried hardy? | 13:25 |
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| kadargo | nope | 13:25 |
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| jpatrick | nop | 13:25 |
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| gr1dlocked | i wonder if the same thing happens with that | 13:25 |
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| gr1dlocked | i don't have many blank cds tho | 13:25 |
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| gr1dlocked | i'm running out of options %P | 13:25 |
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| kadargo | its alpha2... i have to work with my machine ;) | 13:25 |
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| gr1dlocked | i bet the kopete issue is still there, but i wonder if the libqt3mt thing is still there | 13:26 |
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| kadargo | whats the kopete issue ? what happens ? | 13:26 |
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| gr1dlocked | kadargo: did you get passed it through console? | 13:26 |
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| gr1dlocked | kadargo: You know where you can change the default webcam port? | 13:26 |
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| gr1dlocked | kadargo: Well you can change it, but for some reason kopete INSISTS on using 6891 | 13:26 |
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| kadargo | i tried some howtos i find on the net... but nothing worked | 13:26 |
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| gr1dlocked | kadargo fix your sources.list --> /etc/apt/sources.list | 13:27 |
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| gr1dlocked | then just upgrade again from console sudo apt-get upgrade | 13:27 |
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| gr1dlocked | after updating | 13:27 |
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| gr1dlocked | it'll go through, but you have to put in YES or nO | 13:27 |
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| kadargo | i dream of a world where i can install linux without handwork ;) | 13:28 |
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| gr1dlocked | :/ i know.. buntu was SO CLOSE | 13:28 |
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| kadargo | 6.06 was close ;) | 13:28 |
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| gr1dlocked | :/ | 13:28 |
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| risto | is there pacage for eclipse to install PDT? | 13:28 |
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| gr1dlocked | i don't know what eclipse or pdt is | 13:28 |
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| gr1dlocked | mercury msn is nice, but it won't detect my webcam at all :/ | 13:29 |
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| gr1dlocked | and amsn just freezes trying to connect | 13:29 |
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| gr1dlocked | to server | 13:30 |
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| gr1dlocked | yeah 6.06 uses less power too .. feisty makes my hard drive click | 13:31 |
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| gr1dlocked | i think i'm going back to 6.06 | 13:31 |
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| gr1dlocked | UHG | 13:31 |
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| gabbah | hello folks. I want to create an img of my linux installation, and put it on another partition. How can i do that? | 13:31 |
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| gr1dlocked | unless i can get someone to show me how to install gentoo :) | 13:31 |
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| kadargo | gentoo is easy now ;) | 13:32 |
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| kadargo | they got livecds ;) otherwise try sabayon ;) | 13:32 |
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| gr1dlocked | hmm | 13:32 |
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| kadargo | sabayonlinux is gentoo based | 13:32 |
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| kadargo | and well preconfigured ;) | 13:32 |
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| gr1dlocked | then how come you are still working with buntu ;D | 13:33 |
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| gr1dlocked | (just outta curiousity) | 13:33 |
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| kadargo | gentoo is.....bleeding edge......... i have to trust my system ;) | 13:33 |
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| gr1dlocked | oh right | 13:33 |
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| gr1dlocked | that is what any non lts release feels like tho | 13:33 |
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| gr1dlocked | :/ | 13:34 |
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| kadargo | maybe i try (hmpf) opensuse 10.3........ my last suse ver was 7.00 ;) | 13:34 |
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| gr1dlocked | fedora? | 13:34 |
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| gr1dlocked | yah | 13:34 |
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| gr1dlocked | hahaha | 13:34 |
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| kadargo | fedora got quite some long boot times | 13:34 |
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| gr1dlocked | what about opensuse ? you lieked it? | 13:34 |
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| voonte | Gentoo isn't that bleeding-edge if you don't use ~ARCH | 13:35 |
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| gr1dlocked | i went from freebsd/openBSD to slackware, to redhat, to madrake, to buntu | 13:35 |
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| kadargo | the old one... yes... but till 10.2 the boot time was very long... but now with 10.3 they said its much faster ;) | 13:35 |
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| gr1dlocked | hrmm | 13:35 |
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| kadargo | mandrake is cool... i like metisse ;) | 13:35 |
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| gr1dlocked | well it was mandrive when i used it | 13:35 |
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| gr1dlocked | mandriva* | 13:36 |
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| gr1dlocked | long time ago | 13:36 |
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| kadargo | yeah...ok .... mandriva | 13:36 |
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| gr1dlocked | lol | 13:36 |
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| kadargo | mandrake was the old name | 13:36 |
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| gr1dlocked | see i already forget | 13:36 |
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| kadargo | before merging with connectiva | 13:36 |
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| gr1dlocked | riiight | 13:36 |
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| gr1dlocked | ;D | 13:36 |
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| gr1dlocked | hrmm.. i am going to try open suse | 13:36 |
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| === harry is now known as harry_ |
| kadargo | be carefull... new artwork is green ;) | 13:37 |
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| gr1dlocked | i like green | 13:37 |
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| gr1dlocked | :D | 13:37 |
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| kadargo | gooodo | 13:37 |
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| kadargo | goood | 13:37 |
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| gr1dlocked | green like the special herb | 13:37 |
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| gr1dlocked | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/iso/cd/openSUSE-10.3-GM-KDE-Live-i386.iso | 13:38 |
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| kadargo | i dont know what you mean (roll eyes...cough cough ;)) | 13:38 |
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| gr1dlocked | hehehehhe | 13:38 |
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| kadargo | yes.. try live ;) | 13:38 |
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| gr1dlocked | well i think i'm gonna play some nexuiz while this downloads | 13:38 |
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| kadargo | i will log out now.... trying 10.3..... nice to met you ;) | 13:39 |
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| gr1dlocked | u 2 man .. see you round :) | 13:39 |
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| fudus | I managed to uninstall the updater :P | 13:39 |
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| fudus | go me | 13:39 |
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| gr1dlocked | hahhahaha | 13:40 |
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| fudus | how do i get it back? :P | 13:40 |
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| gr1dlocked | nice one | 13:40 |
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| fudus | i also uninstalled libc | 13:40 |
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| fudus | that was fun | 13:40 |
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| fudus | lesson: purge is bad | 13:40 |
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| gr1dlocked | what was it called .. did you uninstall it via terminal or the gui | 13:40 |
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| fudus | purged cupsys | 13:40 |
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| gr1dlocked | :/ | 13:40 |
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| fudus | ended up removing everything | 13:40 |
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| fudus | libc adept udpater :P | 13:40 |
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| gr1dlocked | eek | 13:40 |
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| gr1dlocked | *goes back to game of nexuiz | 13:41 |
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| gr1dlocked | :P | 13:41 |
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| gr1dlocked | gl | 13:41 |
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| romunov | haha, check out the xmess card: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wrhcard.jpg | 13:44 |
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| fudus | going to stay in add/remove progs now like a good linux newb :( | 13:44 |
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| fudus | how do i stop join/quit showing up in kopete? | 13:49 |
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| posingaspopular | hey all i installed some program to monitor my traffic in and out on my computer, but i cant remember what it's called. it's not wireshark, but can anyone guess? | 13:51 |
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| FSHero | posingaspopular: I don't know if this is what you need... but I use bmon. It's a command line based monitor of network interfaces. | 14:00 |
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| FSHero | I use it to monitor my wireless network speeds and the data transferred. | 14:01 |
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| posingaspopular | hmm | 14:09 |
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| posingaspopular | works for me | 14:09 |
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| posingaspopular | thanks FSHero | 14:09 |
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| virtual | how can you set it so that the mouse wheel scroll always goes one page down? | 14:09 |
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| virtual | All i can do is set it to 12 maximum, and i'd like it to scroll a page down always | 14:09 |
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| posingaspopular | virtual: you mean for desktops? | 14:09 |
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| FSHero | posingaspopular: np; glad I could help! | 14:10 |
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| virtual | i mean like in windows control panel/mouse/wheel there is an option to set wheel to "one screen at a time" | 14:10 |
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| virtual | all i can do in kubuntu is set it to 12 max | 14:10 |
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| FSHero | virtual: I don't know about pages: but I bet you could change some sort of configuration file. Which one I don't know, however. Sorry. | 14:11 |
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| virtual | how can i add kcontrol to the kde menu? | 14:12 |
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| virtual | i don't like settings in kubuntu | 14:12 |
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| FSHero | virtual: I guess that you could right-click the K-menu, click Menu Editor, then choose a category on the LHS into which you want to place the shortcut... | 14:13 |
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| FSHero | ... then click File --> New Item --> Type a name e.g. "KControl", then click next... | 14:13 |
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| FSHero | ... In the command box for the newly-created item, type kcontrol and finally click File --> Save. | 14:14 |
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| FSHero | Does anyone know how to change the 'sensitivity' of the mouse? Not the acceleration factor (I turned acceleration off anyway), but how much the pointer moves for a given mouse movement. | 14:15 |
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| === root_ is now known as farooq_m23 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all : ) | 14:15 |
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| FSHero | Hi BluesKaj | 14:15 |
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| FSHero | Say... you're a clever Kubuntu dude aren't you...? | 14:16 |
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| BluesKaj | good news for nVidia owners http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html | 14:16 |
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| usr002 | Heya mates | 14:16 |
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| usr002 | merry xmas | 14:16 |
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| FSHero | BluesKaj: you mean for (rich) Geforce 8800 owners ;) | 14:16 |
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| usr002 | to all | 14:16 |
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| BluesKaj | well, i wouldn't use that word FSHero | 14:16 |
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| FSHero | Christmas... oh yeah, forgot about that! Merry XMas | 14:16 |
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| FSHero | BluesKaj: which one? "clever" or "rich"? | 14:17 |
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| FSHero | BluesKaj: I kid, I kid! | 14:17 |
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| FSHero | Okay, question time: Does anyone know how to change the 'sensitivity' of the mouse? Not the acceleration factor (I turned acceleration off anyway), but how much the pointer moves for a given mouse movement. | 14:17 |
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| BluesKaj | yeah Merry Christmas To All ! | 14:17 |
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| bazhang | you too! | 14:18 |
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| usr002 | Well mates after trying to install ati proprietary drivers for my radeon hd 2400 hd | 14:18 |
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| BluesKaj | FSHero, ... both , I'm an old retired guy on fixed income so i belong to the ATI onboard graphics club , no fancy schmancy stuff for this guy :) | 14:19 |
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| usr002 | and reading the forums and wiki and i don't know what | 14:19 |
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| usr002 | more | 14:19 |
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| BluesKaj | what isn't working , usr002 ? | 14:20 |
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| usr002 | ati | 14:20 |
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| usr002 | lol | 14:20 |
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| virtual | how can i run as sudo all the time so i don't get any prompts anymore? | 14:21 |
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| blizzzek | hi | 14:21 |
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| llutz | virtual: you don't want to do that | 14:21 |
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| llutz | virtual: if, sudo -s | 14:22 |
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| === virtual is now known as fudus |
| farooq_m23 | hi | 14:23 |
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| lightman | hi room, anyone know what error 2 is for the grub loader | 14:24 |
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| posingaspopular | hi farooq_m23 | 14:24 |
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| hannes_ | how can I gain root rights in desktop mode? I mean if i want to edit config files or something like that | 14:24 |
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| === ghost is now known as SteamMachine |
| BluesKaj | AMD releases Catalyst 7.12 drivers, but only for Redhat and Suse | 14:24 |
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| posingaspopular | !sudo | hannes_ | 14:24 |
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| ubotu | hannes_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. | 14:25 |
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| pag | hannes_, for configfiles: kdesu kate /path/to/file | 14:25 |
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| pag | !kdesudo | 14:25 |
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| ubotu | In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) | 14:25 |
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| hannes_ | so I can only do it in terminal or what? | 14:25 |
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| lightman | anyone know how to fix grub loader for dual boot system, i get error 2 on boot up... | 14:26 |
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| hannes_ | if I browse to the files in dolphin there's no way of opening them by double clicking and then editing it? | 14:26 |
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| bazhang | lightman: want a factoid on that? | 14:28 |
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| pag | hannes_, if your dolphin is opened as root user (which it shouldn't ever be) then (double?)clicking will open in root editor - otherwise kdesudo kate is probably one of the easiest ways | 14:28 |
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| lightman | whats that bazhang | 14:28 |
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| bazhang | !grub | lightman | 14:28 |
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| ubotu | lightman: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 14:28 |
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| hannes_ | okay, thanks | 14:29 |
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| lightman | ok thanks will have a read... | 14:29 |
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| pag | hannes_, in konqueror, if you right click on text file, there is "edit as root" option in Actions.. maybe Dolphin supports that as well.. | 14:29 |
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| DreadKnight | yes, dolphin has edit as root action | 14:31 |
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| hannes_ | I don't think dolphin has that feature | 14:31 |
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| hannes_ | it has? | 14:31 |
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| DreadKnight | yup, use it all the time | 14:31 |
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| hannes_ | but I don't see it by right clicking on files | 14:31 |
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| Hamra | i have a question about the kde 4 live cd mentioned in http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php , can we install kde4 from it, or just try it? | 14:31 |
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| fudus | in konqueror how can i do sesssion restore like firefox? | 14:31 |
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| Jeroi | lol | 14:32 |
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| hannes_ | oh, my bad, it's there alright :) | 14:32 |
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| DreadKnight | fudus: well, in kde4 konqueror has the undo close tab feature.. | 14:32 |
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| Jeroi | why peeps want to use kde4 so hard? | 14:32 |
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| Jeroi | Wwwhy cant wait for the official package | 14:32 |
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| Jeroi | ? | 14:32 |
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| DreadKnight | Jeroi: because people suffer from the "quiet desktop syndrome" | 14:32 |
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| fudus | I'm enjoying kubuntu much more than ubuntu so far :P | 14:33 |
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| DreadKnight | fudus: me 2... made the switch a while ago | 14:33 |
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| Jeroi | :) | 14:33 |
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| Jeroi | fudus | 14:34 |
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| Jeroi | you enjoy kde then not gnome | 14:34 |
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| DreadKnight | Jeroi: thinking myself to get hardy and kde4 actually xD | 14:34 |
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| Jeroi | I will upgrade to hardy when apt will inform mee distro update | 14:34 |
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| DreadKnight | xD | 14:34 |
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| Jeroi | then it will be official update | 14:35 |
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| Jeroi | I just wonder how much programs will be better with kde4 or does they get developed at all | 14:36 |
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| Pennycook | Okay, really need help as I've gotten myself into a huge mess. I deleted /home/john, but had updated /etc/passwd to point at my new home folder. I can log into the console no problem, but trying to startkde results in an error telling me to check my installation. Help? | 14:36 |
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| Jeroi | kde has alot to do in my opinion, before it starts to compete explorer | 14:37 |
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| === votan is now known as VotaN |
| DreadKnight | well, hope kubuntu will still have amarok.. juk is nice.. but i prefer amarok.. | 14:37 |
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| Jeroi | :D | 14:37 |
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| Jeroi | ofcourse | 14:37 |
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| Jeroi | they are making amarok2 | 14:37 |
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| Jeroi | I thinks | 14:37 |
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| DreadKnight | which will be cross platform | 14:37 |
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| Jeroi | yes | 14:37 |
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| DreadKnight | but not sure if amarok will be in the kde-multimedia package.. | 14:38 |
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| VotaN | бгг | 14:38 |
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| === thunder is now known as alcothunder |
| Jeroi | I think no time when you install it yourself | 14:38 |
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| VotaN | есть тут хоть один БЛЯ русский?!!!! | 14:38 |
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| Jeroi | I just want virtualdub clone into linux | 14:38 |
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| Jeroi | and avisynth | 14:38 |
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| Jeroi | avisynth would be fantastic tbh to port into linux | 14:39 |
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| jpatrick | !ru | VotaN | 14:39 |
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| ubotu | VotaN: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke | 14:39 |
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| Hamra | !ru | votan | 14:39 |
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| ubotu | votan: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke | 14:39 |
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| VotaN | esty tut hoty odin kto govorit po 4elove4essky???? | 14:39 |
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| Jeroi | omg | 14:39 |
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| Jeroi | they are making it | 14:39 |
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| VotaN | TY BOT??? | 14:39 |
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| Jeroi | http://avisynth.org/AviSynth30 | 14:39 |
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| Jeroi | avisynth 3.0 | 14:39 |
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| DreadKnight | :)) | 14:40 |
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| Jeroi | for win and linux | 14:40 |
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| DreadKnight | Jeroi: never used avisynth before... | 14:41 |
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| DreadKnight | just hope they will use QT not GTK for the gui xD | 14:42 |
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| Jeroi | DreadKnight | 14:43 |
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| Hamra | hi, what is avisynth? | 14:43 |
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| Jeroi | avisynth has never got gui | 14:43 |
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| Jeroi | it is framserver | 14:43 |
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| Jeroi | frameserver | 14:43 |
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| Jeroi | you can gut, join to efects add subtiltes to video via textfile | 14:43 |
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| tolecnal | damn kde + firefox + flash + compiz.. those four don't mix too well :/ | 14:44 |
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| Jeroi | you then open this textfile as "videofile" to mediaplayer | 14:44 |
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| Hamra | ok | 14:44 |
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| virtual | how do i get the winkey to open the kde menu? | 14:44 |
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| Jeroi | and mediaplayer plays that textfile like it was real avi file | 14:44 |
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| DreadKnight | hmm.. would be nice for the winkey to open katapult (alt+space) | 14:45 |
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| Jeroi | and that new texfile is like 0.01kt where can be joined 3 movies, removed adds, added some text like tranlsations of some japanese signs | 14:45 |
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| DreadKnight | Jeroi: sound neat :) | 14:46 |
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| Jeroi | yes | 14:46 |
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| Jeroi | I love it | 14:46 |
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| Jeroi | it is very usefull in encoding | 14:46 |
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| Jeroi | you build your own videofile with avisynth script, then open that script to encoder and encode it to myfile.avi | 14:46 |
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| jpatrick | DreadKnight: I tried that but qt doesn't support Winkey alone | 14:46 |
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| DreadKnight | jpatrick: that's... too bad... i need to clean the key to get rid of the "win" logo xD | 14:48 |
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| DreadKnight | Jeroi: I'm looking more into it :) | 14:48 |
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| Hamra | is there keyboards designed for linux? :P no winkey, maybe some other key(s) ? would be nice :D | 14:50 |
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| === mistagee is now known as MistaGee |
| llutz | Hamra: check cherry-keyboards, they offer a linux-one | 14:51 |
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| DreadKnight | Hamra: i've seen people blogging about ubuntu-keyboards | 14:52 |
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| Jeroi | :D | 14:53 |
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| Jeroi | why cant windows keyborad fit with *buntus's? | 14:54 |
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| DreadKnight | that key should just be called "super" and should have "spr" on it ... same principle as ctrl, alt, shift.. | 14:55 |
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| Jeroi | DreadKnight if just, MY main reason for sticking with windows was encoding, it is really hard in linux, as it misses avisynth. | 14:55 |
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| Jeroi | but when avisynth comes, it helps encoding alot. | 14:56 |
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| DreadKnight | Jeroi: well, on linux i'm pretty much using mencoder | 14:56 |
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| Jeroi | yeah, but wait when you get hands on avisynth | 14:56 |
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| Jeroi | you just need a encoder then | 14:56 |
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| Jeroi | avisynth does the rest | 14:56 |
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