/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/25/#ubuntu.txt

Dr_willis	Changelog "Fixed spelling mistakes in source..." :)	00:00
nicholas	Thank you. :)	00:00
Hydrargyrum	Hi gents. Got a n00bish question for you. I've got a computer here with two identical hard disks, except one is blank and one is full of precious, precious data. I want to install Ubuntu on the blank disk. When I get into the partition editor stage of install, it lists hda and hdb as my choices of disk. How can I tell which of hda and hdb is mapped to the default "disk", and which is mapped to "disk-1"?	00:01
arash	lol,I messed up bad, now the installed programs still are visible in applications -> wine, but not the wine things!! (brose C:\ and wineffg)	00:01
hyperb0lix	arash: OHH	00:01
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hyperb0lix	arash: Are you talking about menu entries?	00:02
hyperb0lix	arash: I had some trouble removing those at first, too	00:02
arash	hyperb0lix: yea, that too	00:02
GHOST	wine is kinda complicated :s	00:02
Ward_	Thor: Thanks. I will take alook at it	00:02
hyperb0lix	arash: .config and .local	00:02
hyperb0lix	arash: HOld on A SEC	00:02
FishFace1	Hydrargyrum: How about you disconnect the non-blank drive, then hook it back up after your install?	00:02
Dr_willis	Hydrargyrum, you could mount each one and see what one has data	00:03
hyperb0lix	arash: ./.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/Sierra/Homeworld	00:03
Dr_willis	or use 'sudo fdisk -l' and see what disk has partitions on it	00:03
hyperb0lix	That's one entry...	00:03
Pulshion	does anyone know if there is a way to check temperatures for ati card and check fan speed, like atitools for windows	00:03
grunch0	hiii!!	00:03
hyperb0lix	arash: So you could do rm -rf ~/.local/share/applications/wine	00:03
Zikiti	How come no one here?	00:04
arash	hyperb0lix: :D	00:04
hyperb0lix	arash: And rm -rf ~/.config/menus/applications-merged/wine-*	00:04
Pulshion	does anyone know if there is a way to check temperatures for ati card and check fan speed, like atitools for windows	00:04
hyperb0lix	arash: Whoops, no need for the r on second one	00:04
hyperb0lix	arash: Bad habit :X	00:04
arash	hyperb0lix: Dont you worry, it's already fixed with the first command	00:05
Hydrargyrum	Dr_willis: looking in the Computer browser, it lists both volumes. I mount the second one, which gets assigned the name "disk-1" - that contains all the data. So far, so good. But looking through the properties of the mounted volume, it doesn't seem to say whether it's hda or hdb. Should I use a command line mount so that I can specify whether I'm interested in hda or hdb?	00:05
Dr_willis	Zikiti, thers 1086 people here.	00:05
Dr_willis	Hydrargyrum, use 'sudo fdisk -l' see what disk is hda and what one is hdb	00:05
hyperb0lix	arash: That _should_ take care of everything, since I had problems getting rid of Wine, too	00:05
Dr_willis	Hydrargyrum, command line is our friend. :)	00:05
Hydrargyrum	Dr_willis: thanks, will check it out	00:05
hyperb0lix	Command line is indeed!	00:05
arash	hyperb0lix: well, I was msot intrested in reinstall	00:05
GigaClon	anyone know where I get shell scripting help?	00:06
hyperb0lix	arash: Hmm, you should be able to install Wine after that and it'll be a clean install	00:06
hyperb0lix	GigaClon: There's a good tut online, hold on	00:06
GigaClon	well i know the basics	00:07
Dr_willis	!abs	00:07
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about abs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:07
arash	hyperb0lix: actually, I had it isntalled when I typed 'rm -rf ~/.local/share/applications/wine' , fixed it well!	00:07
hyperb0lix	GigaClon: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/	00:07
Luigi	Hello! I appear to be having a slight problem: GRUB can't find my kerenl. If nobody her can help me, I'll just patiently freak out here in the background until someone does. Thaks!	00:07
Dr_willis	the "abs" guide is in the repos also. GigaClon	00:07
Dr_willis	!find abs	00:07
ubotu	Found: abuse-frabs, libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl, libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl, libdbix-abstract-perl, libemail-abstract-perl (and 3 others)	00:07
wazupwhere	Merry Christmas to all those serving in Iraq! My family is praying for your safe return!	00:07
Zikiti	What about us in Cuba?	00:07
Luigi	kernel* here* thanks*	00:07
arash	!offtopic	00:08
ubotu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	00:08
wazupwhere	u too	00:08
GigaClon	yeah i want to strip out newline from a file so they are all on the same line	00:08
wazupwhere	:o)	00:08
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JordanC-Dynamics	wazupwhere: This isn't a general chat channel	00:08
Dr_willis	GigaClon, that should be a rather simple, perl, or bash, or sed, script.	00:08
Dr_willis	awk even. :)	00:08
GHOST	!libdvdcss	00:08
ciperlone	merry xmas to you all!!!	00:08
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	00:08
Zikiti	Come on that was like a one liner live a little	00:09
GHOST	yea MERRY X MAS	00:09
Luigi	Is SystemRescueCD an adequate solution?	00:09
hyperb0lix	Happy holidays!	00:09
GHOST	:)	00:09
Dr_willis	Luigi, i always keep a copy of that cd in my PC toolbox. :)	00:09
GHOST	lol me too	00:09
Luigi	Please, people, stop chattering about holidays...	00:09
Hydrargyrum	Hmm. fdisk -l tells me basically that I have two identical hard disks, both formatted as W95 FAT32. Argh. I think I might go with fishface's suggestion and disconnect the disk full of data	00:09
hyperb0lix	Luigi: Happy holidays!	00:09
GHOST	lol	00:10
Hydrargyrum	Would that make it harder to set up a dual boot?	00:10
GHOST	no school!	00:10
JordanC-Dynamics	Happy 25 December :)	00:10
hyperb0lix	w00t	00:10
GHOST	woot WOOT!	00:10
hyperb0lix	Happy 24th!	00:10
GHOST	OW santa clse	00:10
jgoo	Happy n time!	00:10
hyperb0lix	Is n an integer?	00:10
askand	How do I see if ubuntu sees my computers ir?	00:11
Dr_willis	Hydrargyrum, under windows. You could just delete the partitions on the empty one.. making it all unallocated..	00:11
Zikiti	!offtopic	00:11
ubotu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	00:11
GHOST	kool!	00:11
nicholas	Would you recommend ClanLib?	00:11
jgoo	hyperb0lix: n is a null vlaue, one dimensional non-integer imaginary number, sometimes called time!	00:11
Ric84	hello	00:11
jgoo	*value	00:11
Dr_willis	Hydrargyrum, or mount both of them and check the 'mount' command to see what one is mounted as what device	00:11
wazupwhere	askand... ifconfig -a	00:11
GHOST	hullo!	00:11
hyperb0lix	lol	00:11
GHOST	lol	00:11
Hydrargyrum	Dr_willis: thanks, I am currently RTF man mount :)	00:11
Ric84	can i save the state of a partition?	00:12
wazupwhere	also check cat /proc/networks	00:12
Ric84	i'd like to backup a windows partition	00:12
GHOST	am i the only fresh french around here?	00:12
Ric84	(with linux of course)	00:12
askand	wazupwhere: thanks..now I just need to get it working	00:12
wazupwhere	:o)	00:12
Dr_willis	!find ntfstools	00:12
nickrud	GHOST, probably some stale ones as well	00:12
GHOST	:D	00:12
ubotu	Package/file ntfstools does not exist in gutsy	00:12
GHOST	hey!	00:12
nickrud	:)O	00:13
hs1	someone can help me with mondorestore?	00:13
GHOST	lol	00:13
arash	for what reason isn't my CD recently put in not automounteed, another CD just put in worked fine	00:13
Dr_willis	Hmm.. I know thers some sort of ntfs partitioning/backup tools out there...	00:13
nickrud	ntfsprogs , Dr_willis	00:13
Hydrargyrum	Dr_willis: Ah, there we go! hda = "disk", hdb = "disk-1". Thanks for the help.	00:13
Dr_willis	Hydrargyrum, :) of course you do know.. that if your data is that UBER critical.. you should have backups?	00:14
Dr_willis	:P	00:14
jgoo	heh, actually, Dr_willis - good point, what is the most carefree, simple 'backup my entire linux system snapshot' application out there?	00:15
Dr_willis	jgoo, i cheat and use a redundant stack of exteranal usb hard drives...	00:15
hyperb0lix	Dr_willis: How many?	00:15
jgoo	let's say I want to export all partitions on a physical disk to a single easily recoverable image onto another disk...	00:15
Dr_willis	lets see.. right now on my desk is 3 usb hd's ranging from 500 to 40gb in size. :)	00:15
hyperb0lix	XD	00:15
Ric84	ntfsclone... thank you :-)	00:16
jgoo	Dr_willis: that requires maintaining a RAID though... and you backup / real time mirror any mistakes	00:16
jgoo	I'd like a snapshot, I can go back to :-)	00:16
GHOST_	wow thre some many people in offtopic that xchzt crash :s	00:16
Dr_willis	jgoo, I dont have the raided.. i just cp over the imporntant data..	00:16
jgoo	a system restore point as it were	00:16
jgoo	no real data...just system (apps, install, setup, tweaks etc)	00:16
Ric84	btw... how do i solve the usplash wrong resolution bug?	00:16
Dr_willis	I dont mess with system backups Thats easy to reinstall for me.. its the large amounts of data that i have - thats so much space.	00:16
jgoo	my data lives in the cloud anyway	00:16
Ric84	i read usplash.conf has a wrong resolution	00:16
Dr_willis	I also backup stuff the stuff to dvd. :)	00:16
Ric84	i can fix it... then what?	00:16
Dr_willis	I wish DL dvd disks would get cheaper.	00:17
hyperb0lix	Ric84: I think it can be fixed in menu.lst in /boot somewhere	00:17
nickrud	Ric84, if I read your question right , sudo update-initiramfs -c	00:17
nickrud	Ric84, erm sudo update-initramfs -c (typo)	00:18
Ric84	ok	00:18
Luigi	Ok, I'm burning SystemRescueCD on an Evil Empire computer, how can I fix... GRUB not knowing where any of my kernels are?	00:18
Ric84	i'm reading update-initramfs man page	00:18
Ric84	it says -c creates a new initramfs	00:18
Ric84	how do i replace the old one?	00:19
Ric84	never did this... i never touched an initramfs	00:19
hyperb0lix	Ric84: Touch it	00:19
arash	How do i mount my CD. for some very strange reason its not automatically mounted	00:19
nickrud	Ric84, it'll overwrite the current one, works fine.	00:20
Falados	Hello Everyone! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays/Winter for everyone else =D	00:20
Ric84	duh... -u	00:20
Ric84	what about -u?	00:20
nickrud	Ric84, works too :)	00:20
thor	Luigi I will pastebin some notes I have on restoring grub.....give me a sec	00:20
hyperb0lix	arash: mount /media/cdrom?	00:20
Falados	Except for the southern Hemisphere... I guess its sort of summer there.	00:21
GHOST_	?	00:21
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hyperb0lix	¿	00:21
thor	Luigi here are the notes...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49503/...but no guarantees	00:21
GHOST	0.o	00:21
Falados	O.O!	00:21
hyperb0lix	o.0	00:21
GHOST	lol	00:21
mcquaid	join #avidemux	00:21
arash	hyperb0lix: yay :p	00:22
nickrud	thanks, mcquaid , but no :)	00:22
GHOST	gonna stak my crystmas cake!	00:22
mcquaid	doh	00:22
thor	Luigi the first entry in that list...the first 7 steps...might help youout	00:22
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eugman	Is geany supposed to be able to edit .pl files?	00:22
mcquaid	i need to encode a vcd fast, avidemux took over an hour on my box for one disc	00:22
hyperb0lix	mcquaid: I installed tovid recently	00:23
mcquaid	don't really see anything i can tweak. anyone know of a fast vcd encoder	00:23
mcquaid	was it fast?	00:23
hyperb0lix	mcquaid: No lol	00:23
mcquaid	heh	00:23
hyperb0lix	mcquaid: Took about an hour for a 50-min vid	00:24
Bakefy	I did a bad stupid thing... I could use some help... i installed ubuntu, and forgot the username and password	00:24
hyperb0lix	Bakefy: :O	00:24
mcquaid	ya that's way too long. i remember back in the day i used tmpgenc and got about the same time with my pii 400	00:24
Bakefy	hyperb0lix is there a way I can just create a new account?	00:24
Dr_willis	Bakefy, boot live cd, chroot to installed system, look in home for user name, then set the password	00:24
mcquaid	if i could do almost realtime encoding with a pii 400, it should fly now	00:24
hyperb0lix	Bakefy: You're using Linux now?	00:25
mcquaid	first time i've tried making a vcd in years	00:25
bascule	Bakefy: edit /etc/shadow from a live boot disc	00:25
Bakefy	thanks all I will try this	00:25
Evolution2	when I boot up right before the filling kubuntu bar gets to the part where it mounts the partitions it gives me that it's the wrong uuid for kubuntu. so kubuntu is trying to mount itself on top of its old uuid. what's the command that lists the uuid of the partitions	00:25
Falados	I love my free Ubuntu CDs =D, so handy	00:25
sourcemaker	are there kernel hackers here?	00:25
bascule	Bakefy: lots if tutorials out there on how to do it	00:26
MrChips	whats a good console based mp3 player apart from moc and mp3blaster?	00:26
robdig	Evolution2: blkid	00:26
Evolution2	robdig: thanks	00:27
robdig	Evolution2: np	00:27
hyperb0lix	Fermat's Last Theorem!	00:27
GHOST	how	00:27
hyperb0lix	woh	00:27
sourcemaker	who can answer kernel based questions? (No, do not send me the >>kernel<< answer)	00:27
GHOST	lol	00:27
Falados	Wow so many updates... 149 updates total X_X	00:27
GHOST	hey ist down here!	00:27
Bakefy	bascule, im booting to the live dvd now...	00:28
Evolution2	robdig: so to fix my problem where do I stick this uuid in fstab or grub menu	00:28
wols	Evolution2: both	00:29
sourcemaker	how can I install the last vanilla kernel with nvidia support in kubuntu/ubuntu?	00:29
hyperb0lix	Bakefy: Make sure you add an entry in /etc/passwd, too	00:29
GHOST	!chocolate kernel	00:29
robdig	Evolution2: agree with wols	00:29
mimilus	happy new year, hoops sorry	00:29
Evolution2	wols: the leading grub install is using my ubuntu partition	00:29
GHOST	lol	00:29
Evolution2	so on grub/fstab kubuntu + grub ubuntu?	00:30
elyas	How paltalk be installed?	00:30
mimilus	do you know a program for create cd cover ?	00:30
GHOST	mimilus bonnes vacances ;)	00:30
bascule	Bakefy: ok, kenny:!:13755:0:99999:7:: <--edit the $1$<random chars> to the colon to mimic that	00:31
elyas	How paltalk be installed?	00:31
hyperb0lix	bascule: He needs to add an entry to passwd, too, eh?	00:31
Dr_willis	!find paltalk	00:31
Bakefy	bascule, i might have some questions once I actually attempt this.	00:31
ubotu	Package/file paltalk does not exist in gutsy	00:31
Luigi	ummm... I know how GNU/Linux works, but how do I get SystemRescueCD and lynx to... work like they did in Ubuntu with my simple Ethernet connection?	00:31
bascule	hyperb0lix: well if shadow is enabled password field is set as :x:, so no	00:32
GHOST	is ubotu intelligent :s	00:32
Luigi	And where will the rest of my harddisk be found in SystemRescueCD anyway?	00:32
hyperb0lix	bascule: Oh, wait, is he adding a user or resetting the passwd?	00:32
bascule	hyperb0lix: well username will be listed at the end so let's just blank it	00:32
Dr_willis	Luigi, a lot of those live cds have network setup tools you run.	00:33
elyas	I know it does not exist, but there is only way to install?	00:33
Luigi	OK	00:33
elyas	heloo	00:34
elyas	?	00:34
hyperb0lix	ooleh?	00:34
elyas	I know it does not exist, but there is only way to install?	00:34
bascule	hyperb0lix: though removing the x from the :s in passwd will do no harm	00:34
hyperb0lix	Aye	00:34
bascule	Bakefy: you could also chroot to the ubuntu install and go from there	00:34
hyperb0lix	bascule: chroot+passwd?	00:35
bascule	yes	00:35
hyperb0lix	k	00:35
bascule	or useradd then passwd	00:35
elyas	please...	00:35
hyperb0lix	elyas: I could only find Paltalk for Windows	00:36
bascule	spytalk	00:36
Bakefy	bascule, i have the shadow document open...	00:36
LimCore	elyas: if it is a windows only program, then perhaps run it under wine in ubuntu	00:36
IndyGunFreak	elyas: whats paltalk?	00:36
hyperb0lix	I don't know...	00:36
hyperb0lix	Some sort of chat thingy	00:36
IndyGunFreak	oh ok.	00:36
LimCore	elyas: or better yet, ask the developers will they do a linux version, or use software that have linux version	00:36
Bakefy	bascule, i see this "ubuntu:U6oaksdfoak:1231:123123:123113 (those are random) is that what I edit?	00:37
bascule	Bakefy: ok the last line will be the last added user, it goes username:<random chars>:..other bits, we ned to remove all chars from between the first 2 colons ::	00:37
bascule	Bakefy: yeah	00:37
elyas	Wine is operated by well-managed after fixation	00:37
Bakefy	bascule, what should i do from here?	00:37
bascule	soit looks like ubuntu::<numbers>	00:38
bascule	Bakefy: and this is the /etc/shadow from the partition not the live cd	00:38
elyas	Thank you very much for each of attempted assistance	00:38
bascule	so /media/mountpoint/etc/shadow	00:38
elyas	But there is a question regarding the version 6.06 Is there a security threat to use?	00:39
nicholas	Could someone please recommend a RAD C++ IDE for Ubuntu 7.10?	00:40
Bakefy	bascule that is correct.	00:40
Falados	nicholas: RAD? I've always used Anjuta for C++	00:40
hyperb0lix	elyas: I would switch to Gutsy, since the programs are more up-to-date	00:40
bascule	Bakefy: so if you have ubuntu::<numbers>:0:999999:7 or such save it	00:41
IndyGunFreak	the LTS versions are over rated in my opinion, unless you're supporting a bunch of computers, a network, etc.	00:41
IndyGunFreak	or are paying for support	00:41
hyperb0lix	IndyGunFreak: I concur :)	00:41
dagon^	I'm never installing a .10-version again	00:41
elyas	Could I of this depends organ during installation	00:41
IndyGunFreak	dagon^: lol, why?	00:42
Falados	Change is slow in corporate, for that type of environment you almost need something like LTS	00:42
hyperb0lix	dagon^: So you won't install October versions?	00:42
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dagon^	IndyGunFreak; hmm, Gutsy fucked up my computer :D	00:42
IndyGunFreak	i dobut it was gutsy, it was likely a user malfunction	00:42
bascule	IndyGunFreak: people are so accustomed to ms release cycles that it fraks them out to change every 18 months :	00:42
bascule	)	00:42
IndyGunFreak	bascule: every 18?... lol, i change every 6	00:42
bascule	me too	00:42
Falados	Same, but we run desktops, not Enterprise server clusters	00:43
Bakefy	bascule okay, done.	00:43
dagon^	hmm, I changed from Win2k to Feisty :O	00:43
bascule	Bakefy: in /etc/passwd delete the x between the first 2 colons of user ubuntu	00:43
nicholas	Thank you.	00:43
nicholas	Anjuta looks good.	00:43
nicholas	I'm downloading it.	00:43
IndyGunFreak	i can understand using LTS in a network situation, where you have to keep track of numerous computers, etc, but for the average user, just keep use the most recent version	00:43
sulle	I apt-get installed a txt file... but i dont know where it was downloaded to. Where can i look / search for it?.	00:43
IndyGunFreak	nicholas: whats anjuta?	00:43
Falados	nicholas: Great =) I hope you like it	00:43
elyas	All new versions of other distributions determine what Uday ubuntu, however, I prefer the old to the rest of distributions	00:43
IndyGunFreak	!info anjuta	00:43
nicholas	Anjuta is a C++ RAD IDE.	00:44
bascule	c/c++ ide	00:44
soldats	sulle, desktop	00:44
ubotu	anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.2.0-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1782 kB, installed size 4324 kB	00:44
nicholas	Thank you Falados. :)	00:44
Luigi	anyone know how I can send 40GB of data as a single data strean?	00:44
IndyGunFreak	lol, 40gig?	00:44
Luigi	to another computer on my network?	00:44
bascule	bottorrent? :))	00:44
sulle	soldats: nope its not there.	00:44
Bakefy	bascule leave the :: ?	00:44
bascule	yes	00:44
soldats	:)) == double chin	00:44
sulle	i have tryed #whereis *file*	00:45
soldats	sulle, did yousownload in firefox	00:45
sulle	no i apt-get installed it.	00:45
fsanlu	hey everyone! im a new UBUNTU user and currently loving it!	00:45
hyperb0lix	sulle: ?	00:45
dagon^	fsanlu; great :D	00:45
IndyGunFreak	sulle: uh, Places/Search for files?	00:45
sulle	fsanlu: Great :D	00:45
hyperb0lix	sulle: You could use the find command	00:45
hyperb0lix	sulle: Or locate	00:45
Falados	Anyone here have a Geforce 8 series using the binary drivers?	00:45
bascule	sulle: what was it?	00:45
IndyGunFreak	hmm, i'm not sure.....lol,	00:46
sulle	c++-annotation-txt	00:46
IndyGunFreak	how do you know if you have the binary driver?	00:46
sulle	hyperb0lix: find command?. tell me some more about it :P	00:46
bascule	IndyGunFreak: lsmod \| grep nvidia	00:46
Falados	your xorg has the nvidia driver, not the nv driver	00:46
hyperb0lix	sulle: find / -type f -name "c++-annotation-txt"	00:46
hyperb0lix	sulle: Or locate "c++-annotation-txt"	00:46
bascule	after updatedb	00:46
hyperb0lix	sulle: You may need to run updatedb for the second one, thouygh	00:46
IndyGunFreak	bascule: ok, and how should that tell me?	00:47
sulle	Ok =)	00:47
bascule	cause there is a kernel modle called nvidia that is loaded if you are running it	00:47
IndyGunFreak	the info it kicked out doesn't make sense	00:47
hyperb0lix	gg bascule	00:47
hyperb0lix	:)	00:47
bascule	IndyGunFreak: or glxinfo \| grep render	00:48
sulle	thn xalot hyperb0lix =)	00:48
fsanlu	i have a small question people: well ive been reading the docs.. and found out how some extensions arent native to linux. when using firefox... how do i install those "multiverse" things to get flash support and what not. i cant seem to find where to do it. thank you :D	00:48
Falados	IndyGunFreak: Do you have it working? I just want to know I'm not alone before I install it XD	00:48
soldats	!flash	00:48
ubotu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	00:48
ubotu	The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.	00:48
sulle	fsanlu: go and install getautomatix2 from getautomatix.com	00:48
IndyGunFreak	Falados: i don't know..lol	00:48
bascule	!restricted \| fsanlu	00:48
ubotu	fsanlu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	00:48
sulle	That program will help you =)	00:48
soldats	!automatix	00:49
ubotu	automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »	00:49
IndyGunFreak	mine is a 7 series anyways..lol	00:49
Falados	Ah darn	00:49
sulle	soldats: =S . i have never had problems with it.	00:49
hyperb0lix	Anyone have usplash issues?	00:49
fsanlu	thank you thank you. i shall read up on these :] happy holidays people btw!	00:49
Falados	Gutsy didn't auto-detect it, so I'm slightly worried	00:49
IndyGunFreak	but i've got dual screens and a tuner card setup perfectly, its awesome-o..lol	00:49
Falados	I'm fairly certain it won't be a problem	00:49
soldats	!worksforme \| sulle	00:49
ubotu	sulle: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/	00:49
bascule	sulle: if you ever dist-upgrade versions it will break your machine	00:49
dagon^	hey guys, I just installed Anjuta as you adviced someone else, it looks good :)	00:50
IndyGunFreak	pastebin is broken	00:50
sulle	Oh. I have never heard it was "dangerous" before. But thnx for the heads up. =)	00:50
Milotin	Can someone tell me why i can't run from terminat ? everything i try to run i get -sh: No such file or directory	00:50
hyperb0lix	IndyGunFreak: ?	00:50
Falados	bascule: What breaks your machine?	00:50
IndyGunFreak	sulle: there's a lot of other things that are really wrong w/ Automatix...	00:50
bascule	Falados: automatix	00:50
soldats	pastebin is fine	00:50
sulle	okok.	00:50
Falados	Automatrix is a horrible piece of software XD	00:50
IndyGunFreak	hyperb0lix: i can't get to the page.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org	00:50
hyperb0lix	IndyGunFreak: I use pastebin.ca for a general pastebin	00:51
soldats	IndyGunFreak, www.pastebin.com	00:51
Falados	Synaptic has gotten so much better that you don't really even need Automatix anymore	00:51
IndyGunFreak	hmm, i'll keep that one handy hyperb0lix, thanks	00:51
hyperb0lix	IndyGunFreak: A friend recommended the .ca one over the .com one, since it had more options	00:51
basti	how can I get the free disk space?	00:51
IndyGunFreak	Falados: i totally agree...	00:51
bascule	basti: df -h if you lke shells	00:52
IndyGunFreak	automatix is for the braindead, who refuse to read even one sentence of an FAQ	00:52
IndyGunFreak	and the risks it imposes, far outweighs any benefits	00:52
basti	thx bascule	00:52
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Luigi	Ok, Ubuntu LiveCD says I still have everything from my harddisk, GRUB just refuses to hit the kernel... how could I check why this is happening?	00:52
sulle	How do i remove automatix ? :P	00:52
bascule	basti: welcome, it stands for disk free and th e -h says human readable, if you care	00:53
IndyGunFreak	sulle: hope.	00:53
sulle	done :P	00:53
turdy	hi all	00:53
Falados	Its a gigantic hack though. It seems to me like it was a quick fix that never got polished so it just got worse and worse XD	00:53
Milotin	Can someone tell me why i can't run from terminal ? everything i try to run i get -sh: No such file or directory	00:53
IndyGunFreak	sulle: problem is, when you remove it, it has hosed more than one system.	00:53
turdy	this is probably not the place to ask but I dont' seem to be able to get an answer anywhere else	00:53
soldats	sudo apt-get remove automatix	00:53
hyperb0lix	Falados: No matter how much you polish a turd......	00:53
Falados	haha	00:53
bascule	Milotin: echo $PATH, what does it say?	00:53
IndyGunFreak	sulle: if its working ok.. i would let it be, and when you upgrade.. do a clean install, and don't reinstall automatix.	00:53
sulle	hyperb0lix: hahaha n1	00:53
basti	bascule, thank you, it's kind of you to explain :)	00:53
bascule	basti: I enjoy it sometimes :)	00:54
sulle	IndyGunFreak: Okok. thnx for your advice.	00:54
IndyGunFreak	sulle: or if you start to have a problem, reinstall, and don't reinstall automatix.	00:54
hyperb0lix	gj bascule! :D	00:54
basti	:P	00:54
Milotin	bascule : /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games	00:54
turdy	I have a analogue tv tuner card (Yuan PG600), Ubuntu installed the IVTV driver for me	00:54
turdy	so that's all good	00:54
bascule	Milotin: looks god	00:54
Fezzler	Sound not working in Flash?	00:54
turdy	but for some strange reason, the card is on mute and no matter what I do, I can't unmute it	00:54
hyperb0lix	Fezzler: I had that problem with older Flash	00:54
* sulle brb to teh internets		00:54
turdy	I can see video though	00:54
turdy	can anyone offer me any advice?	00:54
bascule	Milotin: so say ls in a shell, does it respond?	00:54
IndyGunFreak	turdy: some tv cards are easy, some are hard...	00:54
IndyGunFreak	mine was pretty easy	00:55
wers	I was going to send a group merry christmas message to my contacts on pidgin. any idea on how I could do it? :)	00:55
turdy	I was just oging to buy a new one but its god damn expensive for an analogue tv card	00:55
Milotin	bascule : yes , everything else works fine	00:55
turdy	and aI'm not even entirely sure if its the drivers fault	00:55
Fezzler	I use Road Runner. Video sound and all other sound work. Just not flash on their online radio?	00:55
bascule	Milotin: which command fails?	00:55
Falados	turdy: Did you try the sound controller? You probably need to view all of the sliders so that you can unmute them	00:55
turdy	tried that	00:56
bqmassey	if i've navigated to a folder with the File Browser,.. is there a way to open open a terminal thats already at that location?	00:56
turdy	didn't work	00:56
turdy	I checked using the vl4ctl tool	00:56
Falados	turdy: Are you sure you selected the right device?	00:56
turdy	and it says the audio is muted	00:56
Milotin	bascule : ./httpd ; ./ircd	00:56
tacone	sigh, I like mono, but mono doesn't like me.	00:56
turdy	I can hear music and everything	00:56
turdy	just the freaking tv tuner card decides to produce no audio	00:56
turdy	(as you can imagine, tv without sound isn't much fun)	00:56
biouser	what is the channel for open office questions?	00:56
thor	bqmassey in xfce if you right click on the folder there is a menu item for Open Terminal Here	00:56
bascule	Milotin: cause you need to be in the directory those files reside, hence the ./	00:56
Falados	If it's a huge problem, you can probably get a cable to go from your Tuner's audio out to your sound card's line-in	00:57
Milotin	bascule the point is i am there	00:57
nickrud_	bqmassey, install nautilus-open-terminal , it'll be in your context menu	00:57
turdy	Falados: The tuner doesn't have an audio out	00:57
bascule	Milotin: ?? weird	00:57
Falados	turdy: Ah, darn	00:57
turdy	It sucks!	00:57
turdy	everything works, just the stupid audio	00:57
bqmassey	thanks nickrud_	00:57
Falados	turdy: I had a 10$ tuner, isnt' worth the silicon its printed on	00:57
arash	biouser - #openoffice.org	00:58
biouser	I am inputing data into the spreadsheet and I would like to be able to see the first entry in the column	00:58
turdy	hehehehe...	00:58
biouser	arash, thx	00:58
turdy	I've been waiting for someone to respond in ivtv-dev channel	00:58
turdy	but they're all in holiday mode or something	00:58
bascule	turdy: what card, there may be parameters required for the module	00:58
hyperb0lix	HOLIDAY MODE WOOOO	00:58
arash	biouser: feel free for wild guesses pal, simply #openoffice redirects to openoffice.org	00:58
steini	turdy: youcan't get the ALSA working?	00:58
turdy	ALSA works	00:59
turdy	I can play mp3s and everything	00:59
steini	ah ok	00:59
FishFace1	Just wondering turdy, who makes the TV card?	00:59
turdy	its a Yuan PG600	00:59
turdy	its also rebranded as a Diamond PG550 I believe	01:00
bascule	turdy: what chit bt878?	01:00
bascule	chip	01:00
turdy	its a ct something or rather	01:00
IndyGunFreak	if its a bt878, it shoudln't need ivtv.. just install TVTime, or KDETV, or whatever, and it should work fine.	01:00
sterling	I am wondering...	01:00
IndyGunFreak	sterling: well, we aren't mind readers	01:01
sterling	What is the best windows emulator, that runs the fastest and runs COD 4 on it?	01:01
sterling	anyone kno?	01:01
hyperb0lix	sterling: I just use VMware Player	01:01
dagon^	does anyone have a Hauppage WinTV TV-card?	01:01
sterling	Does that playu COD 4?	01:01
IndyGunFreak	dagon^: i have a PVR-150	01:01
hyperb0lix	sterling: I have no idea what COD 4 is	01:01
IndyGunFreak	i think thats a hauppage	01:01
hyperb0lix	CALL OF DUTY	01:01
hyperb0lix	nvm	01:01
sterling	Call of Duty 4	01:02
bascule	turdy: lspci -v should show the chip number as well as the vendor string	01:02
hyperb0lix	Erm, vmware might be slow	01:02
Dr_willis	COD4 is so new.. I would be suprised if it runs with wine/cedega	01:02
dagon^	IndyGunFreak; so do I, does it work smoothly?	01:02
tacone	dagon^: me	01:02
Dr_willis	vmware is not for 3d games. :)	01:02
IndyGunFreak	i have no probs with it at all, owrked out of the box.	01:02
hyperb0lix	Dr_willis: Yeah :P	01:02
dagon^	:D	01:02
dagon^	sweet	01:02
sterling	what does Indy?	01:02
turdy	IndyGunFreak: But that card is expensive	01:02
Dr_willis	Theres the 3d game aspect.. then thers the 'uber copy protection' these new titles have on them that also mess with wine/cedega	01:02
bqmassey	nickrud_: do i have to restart ubuntu?	01:02
dagon^	what card is expensive?	01:02
IndyGunFreak	turdy: i think i paid like 40-50 for mine, i don't know.	01:02
turdy	where from?	01:03
Dr_willis	I got a PVR150 card also.	01:03
turdy	cause that's the thing, I'm thinking of just buying that card	01:03
dagon^	I paid about 1000SEK for my PVR150	01:03
turdy	and throw out that freaking Yuan PG600	01:03
Dr_willis	got it and a remote last year on sale for like $100 or less. - rebates	01:03
sterling	I know I have the the hardwar to run COD 4, but need a windows client that works with it.	01:03
tacone	IndyGunFreak: I cannot make my hauppage work. what model do you have ?	01:03
IndyGunFreak	Dr_willis: i never got the remote to work.	01:03
IndyGunFreak	tacone: pvr150	01:03
Dr_willis	IndyGunFreak, i got it working with mYthtv - but its sluggish.. so i just use a wireless keyboard	01:03
IndyGunFreak	Dr_willis: i use VLC and terminal to change channels, works awesome.	01:04
tacone	I see. I have hvr 1200, which simply don't work.	01:04
dagon^	I hope I can get my PVT150 to work without troubles	01:04
IndyGunFreak	PVT 150?.. never heard of that one, don't know.	01:04
turdy	dagon^: Most ppl seem to have no problems with it	01:04
dagon^	good	01:05
dagon^	thinking of making a TV-computer with Ubuntu as OS :)	01:05
turdy	so no-one has any experience with ivtv doing weird stuff?	01:05
Dr_willis	IndyGunFreak, I just use it with Mythtv. :) i rarely watch live tv withit	01:05
IndyGunFreak	dagon^: thats pretty much what i have.	01:05
bascule	tacone: there are a lot of modprobe options on bt878 see kernel docs	01:05
turdy	dagon^: I spent the whole week doing that	01:05
IndyGunFreak	Dr_willis: all i watch is live TV..lol	01:05
turdy	got everything going except for TV	01:05
dagon^	IndyGunFreak; sweet :D	01:05
turdy	I have TV with NO FREAKING AUDIO	01:05
tacone	bascule: can you give me any link ?	01:05
Dr_willis	IndyGunFreak, with MythTV i can record the live tv.. and zap out comercials...	01:06
tacone	bascule: I tried a lot of things. now I am hoping with some kind of compatibility with hvr1600.	01:06
bascule	/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20/Documentation/video4linux/bttv	01:06
dagon^	IndyGunFreak; does it work with regular videos and such, I mean, can you skip to next video and such?	01:06
IndyGunFreak	Dr_willis: i don't generally record, i figure if i can't watch it live, i don't need to watch it.	01:06
the_darkside_986	hey everyone... how can i convert a CD into mp3's? yes i would militantly defend ogg vorbis, but this is for my mom whose mp3 player doesn't like that format. any ideas?	01:06
dagon^	lot's of such there -,-	01:06
hyperb0lix	the_darkside_986: You could use Grip to rip the CD	01:06
Dr_willis	IndyGunFreak, with that logic.. i wouldent even need a tv. :) i work 2nd shift..	01:06
IndyGunFreak	dagon^: i don't use it to record live TV, so i couldn't tell you, i just use it like a normal television	01:06
grody	the_darkside_986, grip+lame	01:06
IndyGunFreak	Dr_willis: info-mercials are awesome-o..lol	01:07
the_darkside_986	lame keeps saying that the wave is not in 32 bit format. i'm trying to perform lame on wav files...	01:07
dagon^	IndyGunFreak; aha, I'll try myself then :D	01:07
the_darkside_986	actually, the message all mp3 encoders give me is: "<file> is not in 32, 44.1 or 48 kHz!" but i'll try the Grip program thanks	01:07
bascule	the_darkside_986: file some.wav, what does the report	01:07
grody	the_darkside_986, you have to extract the digital audio into .wav format	01:07
tacone	bascule: I don't have that file	01:07
hyperb0lix	the_darkside_986: Grip utilizes lame if you want MP3 encoding	01:07
bascule	tacone: it's in kernel source	01:08
fsanlu	i have a small question guys: ive just actually recently fixed my wifi to get online (it was disabled) but now that i get online it drops off the connection from time to time id say a ~10 minute lifespan. i really dont know what can be doing it. some info about my stuff: im using the restricted firmware to get my wireless card working. and to connect to the router its a WPA.. im not sure what makes me drop off :(	01:08
the_darkside_986	i ripped the wavs with serpentine. serpentine utterly refuses to let me select a mp3 "profile"	01:08
bascule	tacone: linux-source-2.6.22	01:08
Lunar_Lamp	fsanlu, that sounds to me like unclear signal.	01:08
tacone	I don't have in my generic kernel	01:08
fsanlu	Lunar_Lamp: it wouldnt make sense, for none of the other computers running windows drop off :\	01:08
hyperb0lix	the_darkside_986: lame isn't encoding the wavs as mp3s?	01:09
racarter	i have a toshiba satellite A135-S4467, i believe it is 64 bit but im not sure, should i install ubuntu 7.10 with the standard distro or the 64bit AMD and Intel distro?	01:09
Lunar_Lamp	Do they have the same wireless card?	01:09
Lunar_Lamp	And are they in the same place?	01:09
tacone	bascule, I don't have it.	01:09
EdwardXP	I have some major concrens about ubuntu	01:09
EdwardXP	well just 2 actually	01:09
grody	shoot	01:09
pvl1	fsanlu: are the restricteds the only way u can get it working?	01:09
fsanlu	Lunar_Lamp: i have another laptop just like this. so yes, im right next to it	01:09
Lunar_Lamp	fsanlu, ok	01:09
tacone	I've got Documentation, but not video4linux	01:09
IndyGunFreak	EdwardXP: and those are?	01:09
grody	fsanlu, how have you configured the wifi card?	01:09
the_darkside_986	i've been trying to apply lame to *.wav from the commandline but now i will try a real GUI tool like Grip	01:09
EdwardXP	IndyGunFreak, wwhen you install a .sh file' is there a record of where those files are going, so u don't lose tract?	01:10
IndyGunFreak	EdwardXP: i don't know the answer to that, sorry	01:10
grody	EdwardXP, in the .sh file itself	01:10
tacone	bascule: how do I get that on gutsy ?	01:10
racarter	i have a toshiba satellite A135-S4467, i believe it is 64 bit but im not sure, should i install ubuntu 7.10 with the standard distro or the 64bit AMD and Intel distro?	01:10
turdy	how much space do i need to give for the ubuntu installation	01:10
racarter	sorry to repeat, any advice on that question though?	01:10
boo	hey uh can i get some holiday help with booting? it involves (although isnt totally a problem involving) windows, grub, and MBRs, all that good stuff. can anyone help?	01:10
IndyGunFreak	racarter: if you have to ask, start w/ the standard 32bit version	01:10
fsanlu	grody: well i was looking at the docs and i found that my card was disabled. so what i did was i installed the bcm43xx-wcutter package and downloaded the .o file firmware to let it enable.. then boom my wireless card suddenly turned on	01:10
grody	Turdy, as much as you can, but a gig would suffice	01:10
turdy	I only have 30 gig hardisk and windows is taking	01:11
EdwardXP	grody, when you install a program a .sh file it installs and the command works, but it doesn't show up in the applications menu	01:11
racarter	i had actually installed the 64 bit version successfully before	01:11
bascule	tacone: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.22	01:11
IndyGunFreak	racarter: 64bit requires some hoop jumping that frustrates newbies(like web plugins, etc..)	01:11
FishFace1	fsanlu: Only guessing here. Have you tried a different USB port? And are you using a USB hub by chance? How about trying a different port?	01:11
arash	grody, are you saying 1 GB ise nought for Ubuntu?	01:11
hyperb0lix	racarter: Then best you stick with 64	01:11
grody	ahh fsanlu, you need to configure the card to associate, authenticate & connect to it	01:11
EdwardXP	grody, no where in there, and just for any reason, how do u uninstall a .sh file	01:11
racarter	but i wasn't able to get some stuff to work	01:11
bascule	tacone: was away trying to find it online, not easy	01:11
hyperb0lix	racarter: nvm	01:11
hyperb0lix	:P	01:11
fsanlu	FishFacel: im not sure what you mean	01:11
FishFace1	fsanlu: Its a USB wirless adapter?	01:11
fsanlu	grody: how would i be able to do that? its a built in ethernet card	01:12
grody	EdwardXP, the .sh should give you the option, but all the places where files are stored have to put into the .sh	01:12
racarter	ok, next question about ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop.. is there any special precautions i should take since i have vista installed on the first partition?	01:12
tacone	bascule, I am doing	01:12
grody	fsanlu, you mean an internal wifi card?	01:12
nicholas	NICK Nikobee	01:12
hyperb0lix	racarter: Yeah, take extra special precaution with Vista	01:12
fsanlu	grody: yes	01:12
nicholas	NICK <Nikobee>	01:12
grody	fsanlu, man wpa_supplicant :)	01:12
racarter	thanks.. um, any particular precautions?	01:12
dagon^	IndyGunFreak; any experience with bluetooth usb-adapter?	01:12
grody	if you run kde, knetworkmanager	01:12
intelikey	i have an nvidia riva128 agp card, which seems to act strangly in this dell box. it worked flawlessly in another box tho. (same os, same driver 'nv') thoughts ?	01:12
racarter	is it ok to use grub with vista?	01:12
hyperb0lix	racarter: It has been known to make your laptop implode spontaneously	01:12
grody	for gnome, network-manager, but im not sure it deals with WPA	01:12
fiXXXerMet	Wondering if anyone here has any experience with installing Linux/Ubuntu on an IBM XSeries 225, specifically with a LSI53C1030 raid controller?	01:12
racarter	yeah serious hyperb0lix, my computer stopped booting at some point with vista	01:13
fsanlu	grody: man wpa_supplicant?	01:13
racarter	alright, i will install grub and assume everything will boot normally then..	01:13
ciphercast	fiXXXerMet: whats the problem?	01:13
tacone	bascule, I installed. it's a tgz	01:13
grody	yes fsanlu, you will need that if you're running a WPA router	01:13
EdwardXP	grody, can i send you the file	01:13
grody	man is just the man page to it	01:13
fsanlu	grody: hmm can i just take the easy way and make the router WEP? acuse i can do that	01:13
x_or	Can anyone recommend a simple mail server? I simply want to accept mail from any address, and then process the mail using a procmail filter. I'd prefer something that has a curses or web based configuration tool so I don't have to learn a configuration format syntax.	01:14
grody	EdwardXP, what is it?	01:14
tyrone		01:14
EdwardXP	crossover	01:14
grody	fsanlu, you could.. but you would need to enter the WEP key into ifconfig or iwconfig	01:14
grody	EdwardXP, it gives you an option where to store the files	01:14
fiXXXerMet	ciphercast: Two things. 1: I don't know how to tell the integrated RAID hardware software to let me do a software raid through Ubuntu (mdadm). But more importantly, when I start to install ubuntu, it doesn't detect the disks or the controller and prompts me for a drive.	01:14
fiXXXerMet	driver*	01:14
intelikey	x_or define simple. simple in it's codebase or simple in it's configuration ?	01:15
grody	all files that are extracted are normally put in /tmp	01:15
bascule	tacone: sudo tar zxvf the.tgz	01:15
fsanlu	grody: okay ill just play around with this then :] btw just curious when u type to me it flashes (im using x-chat) am i doing it right by typing ur name and adding a colon? hehehe.	01:15
grody	fsanlu, colon, comma, whatever :P	01:15
x_or	intelikey: simple in the configuration. I don't care about the language it is written in, just want something that does not require a lot of reading to get up to speed. I admit up front I am ignorant of mail servers and the protocols.	01:16
grody	mine flashes too fsanlu, its usually when someone says your name	01:16
EdwardXP	nothing	01:16
x_or	I just want to receive all mail on my host and process using a procmail filter.	01:16
fsanlu	grody ohhhhhh hahahahahaa its like magic alright ill play around with this for awhile :] thanks for the input	01:16
_6StringKng_	where in the Configuration Editor is the option to show mounted drives on the desktop? I changed it a while back but want it so I can see a thumb drive on the desktop	01:16
tacone	bascule: ok, I extracted only video4linux	01:16
grody	EdwardXP, what exactly are you trying to do.. because when you run xover, it asks you where to install too	01:16
ciphercast	fiXXXerMet: can do go into the bios and turn off the raid controller?	01:16
grody	yw fsanlu	01:16
x_or	intelikey: Thanks for your response and input, btw.	01:17
bascule	tacone: well go from there in the dir are a lot of text files with explanations of things to try	01:17
intelikey	x_or fetchmail but even it requires some reading so... not really.	01:17
ciphercast	I'm only familiar with aftermarket integrated raid controllers	01:17
fiXXXerMet	ciphercast: I looked, and couldn't find it. There is a bios update out that I am going to install shortly.	01:17
_6StringKng_	help, anyone? I changed it to where I can'	01:17
x_or	intelikey: Is there anything that has a web configuration front end that you know of?	01:17
_6StringKng_	t	01:17
_6StringKng_	see the drives mounted on the desktop	01:17
rainwalker	are there any common ways to get webcams to work?	01:17
jinxed-	hey	01:17
_6StringKng_	in the configuration editor, I forgoty what I changed, lol, now I want it back	01:17
x_or	intelikey: I think postfix might be the right one to use.	01:17
bascule	rainwalker: plug and pray :)	01:17
intelikey	x_or hmmm/// let me think.	01:18
dagon^	rainwalker; hmm, for msn?	01:18
rainwalker	bascule: atheist =(	01:18
bascule	:)	01:18
rainwalker	dagon^: amsn	01:18
EdwardXP	grody, just a secc...	01:18
dagon^	rainwalker; yeah, that's what I meant :P just plug and play	01:18
arash	bascule, good one ;), often jsut the solution is jsut to plug the device in	01:18
tacone	bascule: how do I know which chipset my card uses ?	01:18
rainwalker	dagon^: and if that doesn't work?	01:18
bascule	works for me	01:18
dagon^	rainwalker; it will	01:18
jinxed-	I just updated from 7.04 to 7.10 and now my resolution is all messed up and it takes a long time to boot up. Also I had a dual boot between 7.04 and XP and now I have XP along with like 6 different versions of 7.10	01:18
bascule	tacone: lspci -v	01:19
rainwalker	dagon^: it doesn't	01:19
ciphercast	fiXXXerMet: otherwise, you'll probably need to configure the raid using the controller menu system	01:19
jewbilee	What file do I modify to change which partitions are mounted on startup?	01:19
bascule	tacone: also lsmod and dmesg to see what was/is detected	01:19
Jack_Sparrow	fstab	01:19
grody	x_or, you want a gui frontend to configure a mail server?	01:19
fiXXXerMet	jewbilee: /etc/fstab	01:19
rainwalker	dagon^: when I try to set it up, it recognizes the model and everything, but it gets some error	01:19
the_darkside_986	Grip seems to be working. Thanks everyone for the help. Maybe someday ogg vorbis will rule the world. until then... :(	01:19
dagon^	rainwalker; in amsn, start a conversation, click the webcam down by the field where you type, and it works :)	01:19
fsanlu	what i like is.. how this community is just so helpful with one another. its like refreshing to know its not a bunch of snobs that hate on you. haha one day i shall know a lot about this stuff to help others too	01:19
jewbilee	fiXXXerMet: thanks	01:19
dagon^	rainwalker; oh	01:19
dagon^	rainwalker; is it a very old webcam?	01:19
rainwalker	dagon^: I don't know	01:20
rainwalker	a year or two?	01:20
dagon^	hmm	01:20
dagon^	should be no problems then	01:20
rainwalker	dagon^: hang on, I'll do it again and tell you what it says	01:20
dagon^	ok	01:20
bascule	fsanlu: walk in the light side you will	01:20
tacone	bascule: Conexant Unknown device 8852 (rev 02) ... (unknown ?!)	01:21
fiXXXerMet	Another question. Let's say that I get the driver for my controller and install Ubuntu on it, using raid 1. The server supports hot swapping drives.. Nee dI do anything special to make this work in Ubuntu?	01:21
intelikey	x_or ssmtp "might" i don't really recall but fetchmailconf is a gui that helps you setup fetchmail makes it "newbe friendly"	01:21
rainwalker	dagon^: sent request to send webcam	01:21
rainwalker	dagon^: the only problem is that the person isn't there to accept	01:21
bascule	not neccessarily, could be a modem, but if so, no driver by the looks, dump lspci -v to pastebin for me	01:21
dagon^	rainwalker; then it's ok my friend	01:21
bascule	tacone: ^^	01:21
rainwalker	no, it doesn't work when they accept	01:21
x_or	intelikey: Is fetchmail an equivalent to postfix? I used postfix long in the past.	01:21
rainwalker	dagon^: I just can't remember what it says	01:21
grody	fetchmail is a cli pop mail fetcher	01:22
dagon^	rainwalker; it doesn't? hmm, weird	01:22
rainwalker	dagon^: something like "grabber not available" I think	01:22
grody	x_or *	01:22
Phophos	Hey, I've lost all sound from ALSA, I have no idea what the problem is: Can someone offer some support?	01:22
fabio	!Pt	01:22
ubotu	Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	01:22
arash	jinxed- , resetting the xorg.conf file perhaps culd help?	01:22
dagon^	rainwalker; oh, that has never appeared to me	01:22
x_or	grody: Sorry?	01:22
tacone	bascule: ok, I promised myself not even looking into this before the new year. going to get some cigarettes :-)	01:22
intelikey	gordy fetchmail is cli but fetchmailconf is a gui configurator for it.	01:22
x_or	grody: Oh, got it	01:22
tacone	thank you !	01:22
rainwalker	dagon^: ahhh I have the worst luck with gadgets lately	01:22
bascule	tacone: cool	01:22
fsanlu	so just a question how many of you are majoring in computer science or something related per chance?	01:22
=== fabio is now known as fabio_miguel
grody	x_or, if you want a simple way to configure postfix or sendmail, try out webmin :)	01:23
rainwalker	dagon^: do you have msn? so I could show you what it's saying?	01:23
dagon^	rainwalker; just chill man, everything will work out just fine eventually :)	01:23
arash	fsanlu, all of us. Isn't that obvious?	01:23
x_or	grody, intelikey: I think I would still need postfix or another MTA, in addition to fetchmail, right?	01:23
intelikey	yeah webmin. i should have thought of that.	01:23
Phophos	Hey, I've lost all sound from ALSA, I have no idea what the problem is: Can someone offer some support?	01:23
bascule	x_or: only to send mail	01:23
intelikey	x_or sendmail :)	01:23
bascule	yeah, easy config	01:24
grody	x_or, they can be used in tandom.. i used to, fetcmail to grab mail from isp & then deliver it into my local mail system which i then pick up at home	01:24
fsanlu	arash: i guess that would be.. hahaha.	01:24
bascule	lmao	01:24
rainwalker	Phophos: just a chance, but have you checked to make sure nothing is muted?	01:24
x_or	bascule: grody, intelikey: webmin is not in the standard repository, is it in a non-std repo, or do I need to download and install myself. Neither is a problem.	01:24
x_or	bascule: I need to receive mail, not send.	01:24
Jack_Sparrow	fsanlu: While your enthusiasm is appreciated. The off topic chat will get you booted on a normal busy day in here	01:24
grody	ahh, you'll need to go to the website.. they have a .deb package :)	01:24
intelikey	!info webmin	01:24
Phophos	rainwalker: I'll check one last time ... Nothing except microphone is muted.	01:24
x_or	grody: I want to receive mail on my DSL connection, persistent host, my ISP does not receive mail for me.	01:24
ubotu	Package webmin does not exist in gutsy	01:25
grody	x_or, http://www.webmin.com	01:25
bascule	x_or: you need postfix of qmail	01:25
intelikey	x_or nope no package in the repos	01:25
grody	x_or, why not use a mail forwarder or something, like use webmail & have all your mail sent there?	01:25
grody	if you want to send mail from home, just setup a local postfix & use that	01:26
jcg42	If I'm about to install Ubuntu should I hook up all of my hardware (Extra Monitor, Printer, etc.) before or after installing and setting up?	01:26
bascule	x_or: and you might find the isp blocks 25 and 80	01:26
nicholas	Could someone recommend a C++ Audio library?	01:26
grody	jcg42, no harm in whilst the install	01:26
x_or	grody: I want to receive email on my host so I can use a procmail filter to process it as it comes in. I don't need to read in any other fashion.	01:26
matrix_	hi,everyone	01:27
bascule	hi	01:27
jcg42	grody, huh?	01:27
grody	x_or, fetchmail to grab it, postfix to process it & store it	01:27
matrix_	why cannot i halt my computer?	01:27
grody	jcg42, before the install (during)	01:27
grody	matrix_, are you root?	01:27
jcg42	grody, Thank you	01:27
matrix_	every time i halt my computer,it said system halted,but just stopped there	01:27
grody	ahh	01:27
grody	it does	01:27
bascule	doesn't like psu/mobo	01:28
matrix_	yes, i installed the system	01:28
IndyGunFreak	jcg42: what type of dual monitors card do you have?	01:28
bascule	very rare these days	01:28
grody	matrix_, possible you have a buggy ACPI/APM bios	01:28
matrix_	grody: what do you mean	01:28
matrix_	so ho to?	01:29
matrix_	grody: it said system halted,but cannot halt,cannot off my computer	01:29
grody	matrix_, try 'sudo shutdown -P now'	01:29
x_or	intelikey, bascule, grody: Wow, webmin is freaking awesome.	01:29
grody	that /should/ do it	01:29
BHSPitMonkey	Anyone know what causes the fade-out effect when the screen saver kicks in?	01:30
grody	x_or, just be careful to firewall it or make it listen only on loopback :)	01:30
grody	BHSPitMonkey, i think that's xscreensaver that does it	01:30
bascule	yeah, can fade in and out, xscreensaver-demo to launch the config util	01:31
rainwalker	BHSPitMonkey: I always thought that was compiz fusion doing that...	01:31
BHSPitMonkey	rainwalker, heh, even in dapper and edgy and feisty?	01:31
bascule	nah, done that for years	01:31
rainwalker	BHSPitMonkey: it faded in those?	01:31
BHSPitMonkey	yeah	01:31
rainwalker	oh	01:31
intelikey	i have an nvidia riva128 agp card, which seems to act strangly in this dell box. it worked flawlessly in another box tho. (same os, same driver 'nv') thoughts ?	01:31
bascule	adjustable in and out	01:31
grody	lol	01:31
rainwalker	never noticed	01:31
bascule	rainwalker: gnome and kde don't, xscreensaver its self does	01:32
intelikey	anyone ?	01:32
rainwalker	so I'm guessing Logitech doesn't have the best linux support does it?	01:32
BHSPitMonkey	intelikey, strangely how?	01:32
dagon^	rainwalker; it works just fine	01:32
dagon^	my webcam is logitech	01:32
BHSPitMonkey	rainwalker, not across the board	01:32
bascule	rainwalker: there webcams mostly work	01:32
rainwalker	dagon^: what do you have?	01:32
intelikey	staticy lines scroll down the screen sometimes BHSPitMonkey	01:32
dagon^	rainwalker; some older Logitech	01:32
BHSPitMonkey	my logitech webcam sort of works. It works in ubuntu on my laptop, but on my desktop it causes kernel panics.	01:32
rainwalker	bascule: well for some reason mine won't	01:32
BHSPitMonkey	I even changed motherboards and it does the same.	01:33
rainwalker	dagon^: mines older too...this is so unfair	01:33
dagon^	:p	01:33
BHSPitMonkey	intelikey, odd; sure it's not the display dying?	01:33
dagon^	life is unfair	01:33
bascule	i know almost nothing of webcams	01:33
intelikey	BHSPitMonkey it's not constant. but it is frequent and very annoying	01:33
rainwalker	the weird thing is that i used some app called cheese that connected to it fine, but amsn won't	01:33
intelikey	BHSPitMonkey what do you mean ?	01:33
bascule	heh, get the same on windows all the time	01:33
BHSPitMonkey	rainwalker, then it's amsn's fault	01:34
bascule	some apps work, others don't	01:34
BHSPitMonkey	intelikey, are you sure it's not the monitor	01:34
rainwalker	BHSPitMonkey: I figured	01:34
dagon^	rainwalker; try the latest version of amsn	01:34
rainwalker	dagon^: I installed via synaptic	01:34
intelikey	BHSPitMonkey the card ? oh monitor..... no.	01:34
Pelo	!enter \| bascule	01:34
ubotu	bascule: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	01:34
intelikey	BHSPitMonkey i can swap the monitor out and prove that tho.	01:34
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: 6# girl.....	01:35
bascule	bit harsh Pelo	01:35
nickrud_	Jack_Sparrow, congrats	01:35
nickrud_	Jack_Sparrow, or more better, your niece	01:35
Jack_Sparrow	yep...	01:35
intelikey	BHSPitMonkey also it only does it in graphics mode	01:35
Pelo	is one of you two gonna bring me into the loop on this little OT ?	01:35
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: Niece just had her baby	01:36
Rufus_	when i try to add a user through the terminal, it says only root can add a user. How can i add one through my account?	01:36
Pelo	Jack_Sparrow, congrats I guess, weight ?	01:36
Jack_Sparrow	yep	01:36
BHSPitMonkey	Pelo, all of his messages were complete thoughts	01:36
intelikey	rufus you can't.	01:36
Pelo	Rufus_, use sudo before the command	01:37
nickrud_	Rufus_, sudo adduser <user> , you need to use sudo to get yourself root (admin) privs	01:37
Rufus_	thanks	01:37
AimLXJ	Hi I need help about Grub.	01:37
intelikey	Rufus_ only root can. sudo is an app that lets you use your user password to gain root access.	01:37
Pelo	AimLXJ, what is your issue ?	01:37
AimLXJ	I cannot boot into Windows XP nor Windows VIsta, I have tried (hd0,0)-(hd0,5)	01:38
AimLXJ	Through the menu.lst	01:38
Pelo	AimLXJ, what is the devtree of the xp partiton ?	01:38
dagon^	AimLXJ; did you install windows first?	01:38
Rufus_	Thank YOu	01:38
mic21_	I have a lot of error in my dmesg file like : RPC: failed to contact local rpcbind server (errno 5). I use Ubuntu server and I sometimes need to restart the NFS server 'cause of time out ...	01:38
AimLXJ	Yes I installed WIndows first.	01:38
dagon^	then that's right	01:38
Pelo	AimLXJ, can you paste bin your /boot/grub/menu.lst file so we can have a look	01:38
mic21_	"lockd_up: makesock failed, error=-5" and "rpcbind: server localhost not responding, timed out"	01:39
nickrud_	!pastebin \| AimLXJ (just in case)	01:39
ubotu	AimLXJ (just in case): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	01:39
AimLXJ	Pelo: Okay	01:39
Jack_Sparrow	dagon^: You can install windows second and make it work, but agreed it is much easier the other way around	01:39
dagon^	Jack_Sparrow; well, I learned to install windows first :) I'm just a noob :P	01:39
AimLXJ	Pelo: Do you want me to paste it right here?	01:39
Pelo	AimLXJ, no	01:40
Jack_Sparrow	dagon^: That is the recommended and easier way	01:40
Pelo	!pastebin \| AimLXJ	01:40
ubotu	AimLXJ: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	01:40
Jack_Sparrow	AimLXJ: no	01:40
dagon^	Jack_Sparrow; so a friend told me	01:40
nickrud_	dagon^, you have a good friend there,feed him candy	01:40
dagon^	nickrud_; lol :P	01:40
redd0t	is anybody having a problem with artifacts appearing in the window border in gnome while using advanced desktop effects	01:40
Pelo	dagon^, if you instal windows first , the ubuntu installer sees that there is more then ubuntu on the comp and makes an extra menu entry for windows,	01:40
dagon^	yeees	01:41
nickrud_	redd0t, with ati ?	01:41
boo	hey whats a hex viewer for ubunut?	01:41
AimLXJ	Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49515/	01:41
bascule	boo: hexedit	01:41
Pelo	redd0t, that might happen if your card is borderline	01:41
dagon^	and windows don't try to rape the boot	01:41
Pelo	AimLXJ, hold on	01:41
redd0t	nickrud: no, thats whats weird i have an nvidia 5600	01:41
redd0t	Pelo: i didnt have the problem in kde though.	01:41
dagon^	haha	01:41
dagon^	Kaka in albanian means poo	01:41
Pelo	redd0t, same issue	01:41
redd0t	Pelo: i did a reinstall and just decided to wait to install kde until kde4	01:42
black_helicopter	unny	01:42
redd0t	Pelo: oh. okay	01:42
black_helicopter	funny	01:42
bascule	redd0t: long wail	01:42
redd0t	bascule: jan 18	01:42
chad	hey	01:42
Pelo	redd0t, dekstop manager you use is unrelated to the problem	01:42
bascule	redd0t: in terms of ubuntu one after hardy, so october 2008	01:42
redd0t	bascule: it will still be in teh repos though	01:43
nickrud_	bascule, no, I read on nixternal's blog that kde4 will be available in hardy	01:43
chad	hey every1	01:43
Pelo	AimLXJ, , can you tell me the /dev/hd*** add of the windows xp partiton ?	01:43
SAVVYDK1	help, all my sound is skipping all over the place, sounds like a cd with a million scratches on it	01:43
redd0t	Pelo: but why in gnome and not in kde. i had no problems with artifacts before the reinstall	01:43
SAVVYDK1	how do i make it go away???	01:43
chad	so..	01:43
bascule	redd0t: maybe unofficial ones, but official I doubt it, could .. thanks nickrud_	01:43
virza	.dal.net	01:43
Pelo	redd0t, no idea, mabe the ppl in #compiz have a clue	01:44
AimLXJ	Pelo: It's a sda2	01:44
redd0t	okay, thanks	01:44
chad	im new to all this	01:44
Pelo	SAVVYDK1, reboot, make sure you don'T have so much stuff using your cpu that you don'T have any mem or cpu left and try it	01:44
Pelo	AimLXJ, and the vista one ?	01:44
AimLXJ	Pelo: sda5	01:45
SAVVYDK1	i'll try it, I know i have memory and cpu to plare, tho	01:45
SAVVYDK1	bb	01:45
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: I am thinking he may have a recovery partition on there.. maybe fdisk -l	01:45
Rufus_	in x-chat, how can i have two networks open at the same time?	01:45
intelikey	"that you don'T have any mem left" ? heh.	01:45
redd0t	Pelo: the problem happens when im not doing anything. my pc is a pos, but my friends is fairly new and his has same issue	01:45
GHOST	lol why is xchat is running when a log in my session?	01:45
Pelo	AimLXJ, ok line 157 should read root (hd0,1) and line 166 should read root (hd0,4)	01:45
Rufus_	i found it	01:45
GHOST	why is xchat is running when a log in my session?	01:46
dagon^	GHOST; nice english there :)	01:46
Pelo	Jack_Sparrow, we don'T want to boot the recovery partiton anyway , I'M not sure waht fdisk -L would do	01:46
intelikey	GHOST you closed the session with it running ?	01:47
GHOST	intelikey i just reboot my pc	01:47
ironfoot	I had so trouble with phpmy admin that I removed it and now I'm reinstalling it is there a good way to reinstall it?	01:47
GHOST	intelikey yes ho isee lol	01:47
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: Tell us if it had one or not... Sorry, kinda exhausted here...	01:47
tacone	ubotu: get a life	01:47
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about get a life - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	01:47
rainwalker	dagon^: do you want to know the error that amsn is giving me?	01:47
dagon^	rainwalker; sure	01:47
Jack_Sparrow	tacone: Behave	01:47
AimLXJ	Pelo: Okay I'm going to reboot the computer, I'll come back if I have any more problems, thanks!	01:48
dagon^	rainwalker; I hope I can help you too :)	01:48
rainwalker	dagon^: what's pastebin's url?	01:48
intelikey	GHOST i'm not very familear with gnome, but kde would remember what was running and restart it for you "per default settings"	01:48
Pelo	GHOST, cause you have saved the session with xchat opened, close xchat leave only the progs you want to autostart open and go to menu > system > prefs > session , 3rd tab , save session, do not autosave	01:48
dagon^	!paste	01:48
rainwalker	!paste	01:48
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	01:48
tacone	Sorry Jack_Sparrow	01:48
rainwalker	(haha I beat you)	01:48
dagon^	:)	01:48
GHOST	Pelo ok ty	01:48
Jack_Sparrow	tacone: np but you are yelling at a bot...	01:48
turdy	hmmm, I'm installing ubuntu, it just froze at "Detecting Hardware, please wait..."	01:48
GHOST	better go to sleep	01:48
turdy	what should I do?	01:48
Pelo	Jack_Sparrow, don't worry about it , your comment was just over my head, remember I'm a pretty nooby helper	01:48
rainwalker	dagon^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49516/	01:48
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: you do great..	01:49
Phophos	How would one change from GDM to KDE, by the by?	01:49
GHOST	hey! merry xmas	01:49
* Pelo needs to stay up until at least 3AM, he's got a 20h to 4h shift tomorrow		01:49
bascule	Phophos: remove gdm and install kdm	01:49
GHOST	wtf!	01:49
rainwalker	Phophos: GDM and KDE are different	01:49
turdy	anyone?	01:49
turdy	what should I do	01:49
sksol	hey guys, i got a weird problem. i dont see window borders (the top bar with the exit and maximize buttons). and also my terminal window is completely white	01:49
sksol	what could it be?	01:50
Phophos	rainwalker: Yeah, I know they are :D Is it really that simple?	01:50
Jack_Sparrow	Phophos: install the second desktop and switch between them at the options section of you login screen	01:50
rainwalker	Phophos: I mean KDE and GDM have nothing to do with each other	01:50
GHOST	sksol ur window manager must closed	01:50
turdy	does ubuntu have a resume install function?	01:50
=== angel is now known as cosmos81
* bascule assumes Phophos meant kdm and not kde, perhaps wrongly		01:50
sksol	ghost, how can i turn it on?	01:50
rainwalker	Phophos: do you mean KDM?	01:51
GHOST	sksol if its gnome install metacity	01:51
sidewalk	i want a transparent terminal, but not gnome-terminal (cause it doesnt work with the font called "fixed")... which one do you guys recommend?	01:51
sksol	i got compiz...	01:51
Phophos	rainwalker: Erm. I thought I meant KDE. I'm talking about different window managers, correct?	01:51
sksol	yea, it is gnome, but i have compiz installed	01:51
bascule	sidewalk: opinions abound, Eterm is nice for me	01:51
GHOST	sksol sry i dont no compiz :s	01:51
rainwalker	Phophos: do you mean KDE vs GNOME?	01:51
nickrud_	oh, eterm is still around?	01:51
GHOST	gnome is k0.ol	01:51
bascule	sksol: try alt+f2 'nautilus --replace'	01:52
sidewalk	bascule: but Eterm isn't really transparent.. it shows the backgroundimage, but not other windows when the terminal is "on top" of them	01:52
GHOST	yep	01:52
dagon^	rainwalker; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam	01:52
rainwalker	Phophos: GDM is the login thing	01:52
dagon^	rainwalker; take a peak there, it might help	01:52
crimsun	sidewalk: sure it does. You just need to tell fontconfig (via ~/.fonts.conf and dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config) to use bitmap fonts by default.	01:52
bascule	sidewalk: you need compiz for that trickery	01:52
nickrud_	sidewalk, really, none of the transparent terminals do that without compiz	01:52
Pelo	sksol, you need to install and use emerald to use some themes, go and ask in #compiz-fusion they can tell you how to fix this quickly	01:52
rainwalker	dagon^: clicks	01:52
sksol	ok, thanks pelo! ill try that	01:52
sksol	:)	01:52
sidewalk	bascule: im using compiz	01:52
AimLXJ	Pelo: It didn't work	01:53
Phophos	rainwalker: Yep, I meant GNOME. Whoops.	01:53
Phophos	rainwalker: KDE vs GNOME :)	01:53
sidewalk	crimsun: say what?	01:53
rainwalker	dagon^: should I try easycam before easycam2?	01:53
Pelo	AimLXJ, paste bin the result of blkid please	01:53
rainwalker	Phophos: ok, that makes sense. so what are you trying to do?	01:53
* nickrud_ wonders why anyone really wants fixed anymore, anyway		01:53
bascule	sidewalk: hold down alt and spin the mousewheel	01:53
=== nickrud_ is now known as nickrud
dagon^	rainwalker; woah, I don't know... since I've never had problems with my cam.. but try numero uno first	01:53
AimLXJ	Pelo: Where do I get that?	01:53
Pelo	AimLXJ, just type blkid in the terminal	01:53
Phophos	rainwalker: I don't like GNOME, I reckon KDE's better, I want to change. Is it going to be impossible?	01:53
intelikey	nickrud sorry, fixed what ?	01:53
Pelo	Phophos, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop	01:54
rainwalker	Phophos: not at all! what are you running?	01:54
GHOST	sksol g0.od luck	01:54
nickrud	intelikey, fixed font, it's a bitmapped font, rather than a ttf font	01:54
Pelo	Phophos, I can get you a link to remove all the gnome packages if you want to	01:54
intelikey	ah yeah.	01:54
Phophos	Pelo: Thanks, as easy as that?	01:54
Phophos	rainwalker: I'm running 7.10 at the minute.	01:54
Jack_Sparrow	yep	01:55
Pelo	Phophos, restart x and chose a kubuntu session	01:55
AimLXJ	Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49517/	01:55
sidewalk	didn't like the alt+scrollwheel sollution	01:55
sidewalk	crimsun: what about .fonts.conf?	01:55
bascule	sidewalk: you probably need to enable some plugins I have forgotten about, #comiz will know	01:55
Phophos	Pelo, rainwalker: Thanks, I might try that when I get more crucial things working :D (Y)	01:55
bascule	sidewalk: cause that works here	01:55
Pelo	AimLXJ, what is on the first partition on your computer ?	01:55
skywalking	hello , what is the RDP server ?	01:56
Thingus	I'm trying to get wireless working on a CLI install of Feisty. I'm using a BCM4318 and I have installed ndiswrapper from source. I can see wlan0 as my wireless card, and can see my access point with iwlist. How can I connect to it?	01:56
AimLXJ	Pelo: I believe it's the system recovery	01:56
sidewalk	bascule: oh oh oh	01:56
AimLXJ	Pelo: Because (hd0,0) started the system recovery but not Windows XP.	01:56
AimLXJ	Pelo: I mean (hd0,1)	01:56
crimsun	sidewalk: see http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2007/12/12/search-for-a-crisp-monospace-true-type-font/	01:57
Jack_Sparrow	pelo :)	01:57
rainwalker	"Please insert the disk labeled: Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016) in drive /cdrom/"	01:57
rainwalker	why?	01:57
Pelo	AimLXJ, fyi , sda1 = hd0,0 , sda2 = hd0,1, sda5 = hd0,4 , etc	01:57
Pelo	Jack_Sparrow, I ddin't doubt you, I just didnT' think it was pertinent	01:57
Thingus	rainwalker: Because there are packages on the Ubuntu CD.	01:57
skywalking	hello , what is the RDP server ?	01:58
Pelo	rainwalker, cause you have your install cd listed as a repos	01:58
ThePub	rainwalker: you have the CD listed as a source in /etc/apt/sources.list	01:58
Thingus	rainwalker: It saves bandwidth to have the files on CD rather than downloading again.	01:58
dagon^	rainwalker; try this, read the last post -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205782	01:58
AimLXJ	Pelo: That's strange.	01:58
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: Intuition.... no one could have known	01:58
Pelo	AimLXJ, no that 's just the way grub lists the partitions	01:58
Pelo	Jack_Sparrow, still doesn't solve the problem	01:58
sidewalk	crimsun: ill read that	01:59
AimLXJ	Pelo: The system recovery is (hd0,0) but when I try to boot (hd0,1) it boots up the system recovery.	01:59
rainwalker	Thingus: why do I have to insert the cd when I'm installing via synaptic	01:59
Pelo	AimLXJ, ok at this point I guess you are gonna have to do a trial and error fix	02:00
Thingus	rainwalker: You have the CD listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list	02:00
bazhang	rainwalker: just disable it a source in synaptic repos	02:00
rainwalker	ThePub: how do I change it so that it's not a source	02:00
Jack_Sparrow	Pelo: have him post output from fdisk -l to the pastebin	02:00
Thingus	The CD acts as sort of a mini-repository containing packages that aren't installed with the default Ubuntu install.	02:00
AimLXJ	Pelo: Okay, how do I do that?	02:00
bazhang	rainwalker: open synaptic, go to repositories, uncheck the cd as a source, reload, bingo	02:01
rainwalker	ok I got it	02:01
Thingus	On another note, I think Ubuntu should have an "Advanced Installation Method." That allows you to tune some extra features right from the installer.	02:01
bazhang	yes like a default /home	02:01
Thingus	However, one thing at a time.	02:01
Pelo	AimLXJ, when you get to the grub menu and the entry does not work , go back to the menu, select the entry again and hit E for edit, select the root line and hit E for edit , change it to (hd0,2) and enter to dave , then B to boot, , if that doesn'T work , go back to the menu and try hd0,3 and so one , until you get one that works, those changes are not permanent and you will need to boot ubuntu and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst manualy t	02:01
Pelo	o make them permanent	02:01
Pelo	AimLXJ, any questions ?	02:01
Thingus	I'm trying to get wireless working on a CLI install of Feisty. I'm using a BCM4318 and I have installed ndiswrapper from source. I can see wlan0 as my wireless card, and can see my access point with iwlist. How can I connect to it?	02:02
AimLXJ	Pelo: I have tried that up to (hd0,5) and didn't seem to work	02:02
Pelo	AimLXJ, join me in #grub please	02:02
bazhang	Thingus: open AP?	02:02
Thingus	bazhang: WEP	02:02
Thingus	Should I open it up?	02:02
AimLXJ	Pelo: Okay	02:02
bazhang	Thingus: not really necessary--you want to do this via cli or gui	02:03
Thingus	CLI, I don't have a DE on the machine in question.	02:03
obnockshus	hello	02:03
sterling	hey	02:03
sterling	I gots another question, I cant get the flashplayer-installer to work...	02:03
sidewalk	crimsun: seems like alot to do, just to change a font	02:03
bazhang	thingus, just a minute let me get you a link	02:03
sterling	whats up with that?	02:03
Jack_Sparrow	sterling: see topic	02:04
bascule	sterling: /topic	02:04
zarac-	hmm =D	02:04
zarac-	i accidently pressed del key in nautilus =D	02:04
zarac-	is it thrown to the trash then?	02:04
zarac-	i've always shift+deleted and get the popup =D	02:04
ThePub	I have http://pastebin.ca/831542 that setup in /etc/network/interfaces but it doesn't work. Is there more I should need to do to get it up and running? If I enter everything in by hand using iwconfig, ifconfig and route things work fine.. but not using interfaces. Can someone suggest a place to look for further information on how to make it work properly?	02:04
Powaqqatsi	Hi everyone. I'm messing with EasyBCD to set up ubuntu on the Vista bootloader (for dual boot). Followed a few different instruction sets I've found online but it still won't boot. Anyone familiar with this?	02:05
dagon^	oh, I love snus <3	02:05
fsanlu	argh this is getting so annoyin to a point where i wanna stab my computer in multiple places at once. i keep dropping off the internet! nothing ive tried has worked. i cant even update the comptuer cause it keeps dropping off.. sigh sorry for the rant	02:05
Thingus	fsanlu: do 'lspci \| grep Network'	02:06
Khisanth	you're sure it's not your ISP? :)	02:06
GarulfoUnix	hi everybody	02:07
dagon^	snus is like the greatest thing after linux :>	02:07
bazhang	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo Thingus this should do it scroll down a bit	02:07
sterling	I downloaded the package....	02:08
ironfoot	is there a way to restall 7.10	02:08
thor	ThePub take down the interface, then bring it back up so it is all configured via interfaces. Then check 'route -n' and make sure that the routes are being defined per interfaces. Also, check iwconfig and ifconfig and make sure all that info is being passed properly as well. If it works when you define it manually, then it is just a matter of figuring out what isn't being auto-defined	02:08
ironfoot	reinstall	02:08
sterling	I downloaded the package, but cant figure out how to search for it in ADD/REMOVE	02:08
dagon^	ironfoot; if you got the CD then no problems	02:08
bazhang	ironfoot: you have the live cd?	02:08
magicrobotmonkey	anyine else having problems getting a new ipod nano to work ?	02:08
ThePub	thor: which is the oddball. it all LOOKS the same :)	02:08
bazhang	magicrobotmonkey: currently does not work with linux	02:08
mic21_	I have a NFS mount point and I would like to have a king of common trash. Is it possible ? I also would like that user who write on this directory have automaticly the RW-RW---- permissions but always RW-- --- --- in their home. Is it possible to have a different umask depending of the place where they write their files ?	02:09
magicrobotmonkey	no hacks for it?	02:09
Jack_Sparrow	fsanlu: You may try this in your browser.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529698	02:09
bazhang	magicrobotmonkey: as of yet no	02:09
thor	ThePub the only other possible data that might not be defined correctly is in /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf...check those as well.	02:09
ironfoot	yes I do but for some reason it would not let me do it?	02:09
ThePub	thor: those have nothing to do with routing though.	02:09
magicrobotmonkey	ok, thanks, bazhang	02:09
bazhang	ironfoot: describe in more detail please	02:09
bazhang	magicrobotmonkey: no worries	02:10
ironfoot	bazhang:I s there some command that I missed?	02:10
fsanlu_	Thingus what was that command? sorry i dropped off again	02:10
Jack_Sparrow	fsanlu: You may want to try this in your browser.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=529698	02:10
thor	ThePub well...yes and no. If resolv.conf is not being defined correctly then there will be no dns lookup...which could appear to be a routing issue	02:10
bazhang	ironfoot: you have the livecd in and running, and then hit install?	02:10
Wolvenhaven	i removed my windows drive(it had grub on it) and no i cannot load my ubuntu drive, it says "OS failed to load", how do i fix this?	02:10
Wolvenhaven	now*	02:10
bazhang	!grub	02:10
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	02:10
bazhang	see above Wolvenhaven	02:10
thor	ThePub and checking /etc/hosts is just something I always do since I am there checking resolv.conf anyway <smile>	02:10
ironfoot	Well when I put in the CD IT asked do I want to install and I said yes then It asked for the time zone and it wouldn't go any farther.	02:11
sterling	I downloaded the package for Adobe, but cant figure out how to search for it in ADD/REMOVE	02:11
ThePub	thor: nah, that's name lookup. using interfaces I'm unable to ping the gateway. I'm able to by hand and they appear the same. I'm not even worried about looking up names atm.	02:11
dagon^	ironfoot; maybe you burned the CD too fast?	02:11
fsanlu_	hey Thingus what was that lpsci command you wanted me to try?	02:11
Jack_Sparrow	sterling: It doesnt work like that	02:11
ironfoot	it possible I guess what is a good speed?	02:11
bazhang	ironfoot: the cd may have been damaged try burning a new one	02:11
thor	ThePub ah ok...didn't catch the reference to pinging the gw	02:11
ironfoot	ok	02:11
ironfoot	thanx	02:12
obnockshus	anyone got a sec? I'm new to linux and am curious about IRC alternatives.	02:12
bazhang	ironfoot: also check the md5 sum	02:12
bazhang	!forums	02:12
ubotu	The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.	02:12
bazhang	see above obnockshus	02:12
Lunks	!xmas	02:12
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about xmas - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:12
thor	ThePub when it fails, if you 'watch ifconfig' and in a second terminal try the ping, you should see the outgoing packet count increment...if it is sending out the ping	02:12
obnockshus	ty baz	02:12
Thingus	fsanlu: 'lspci \| grep Network'	02:12
bazhang	np obnockshus	02:13
Jack_Sparrow	obnockshus: There are several, xchat, xchat-gnome, konversation	02:13
Khisanth	irssi for those less graphically inclined :)	02:13
xtknight	any linux software that supports ipod nano (gen 3) yet? { rhythmbox/standard ipod libs on ubuntu dont support it }	02:13
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bazhang	xtknight: the latest you mean?	02:14
xtknight	bazhang, latest nano? i think. latest ubuntu? gutsy here	02:14
fsanlu	Thingus: okay i ran that and it just said network controller: broadcam copr bcm94311 wlan mini-PCI	02:14
Jack_Sparrow	xtknight: Careful hacking the ipods, I would hate to see you brick it	02:14
bazhang	xtknight: latest nano? not right now	02:14
Lunks	How do I burn VCDs from .mpg files?	02:14
xtknight	Jack_Sparrow, well last thing i tried i ended up Resetting via iTunes on the authorized windows machine and it was ifne	02:14
Thingus	fsanlu: Do you use the wireless or wired network?	02:15
Jack_Sparrow	xtknight: Just wanted to give a word of caution on doing that.	02:15
bazhang	xtknight: locked out for now	02:15
xtknight	bazhang, ahh	02:15
fsanlu	Thingus: the wireless.. it gets me connected for awhile.. then bam it disconnects and sometimes it reconnects but sometimes it doesnt	02:15
xtknight	Jack_Sparrow, ya i might just hook it up to my VM thru usb	02:15
obnockshus	I'm looking for something/someone that can help with Xchat or point me to a better irc. any tips?	02:15
xtknight	maybe this'll work better	02:15
fsanlu	Thingus: i dont know if this helps but when i installed ubuntu the card was disabled and i had to enbale the restricted firmware to get it to run	02:16
thor	Lunks found a number of links to howtos and such...google 'create vcd from avi in linux'	02:16
RequinB4	!pidgin \| obnockshus	02:16
ubotu	obnockshus: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It is available in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), but not previous versions. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info. To install Pidgin please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallPidgin2.0	02:16
magicrobotmonkey	is there a quick way to share an internet connection?	02:16
xtknight	bazhang, have they had good luck hacking previous ones? reasonable to expect linux hack in a few months or is there some completely new scheme?	02:16
sterling	Jack_sparrow, see PM please	02:17
obnockshus	will pidgin run on feisty?	02:17
Jack_Sparrow	obnockshus: You are looking for irc clients right.	02:17
Jack_Sparrow	sterling: sure.. briefly	02:17
mic21_	is it possible to have different umask depending the place where we write on the file system ?	02:17
Lunks	thor: it's from an mpg (even less work), but I'd like to know if there's any tool which can do it nicely, like k3b	02:17
obnockshus	yes, sparrow	02:17
Lunks	looks like a package is missing	02:17
Khisanth	fsanlu: what sort of signal strength are you getting?	02:17
tony_math	Lunks: you can try Tovid	02:17
phantomlord	irc://	02:17
RequinB4	obnockshus - gaim may be pre-installed on feisty, pidgin is the new name. Yes, it should be fine	02:17
fsanlu	~60%	02:17
thor	Lunks http://muhdzamri.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-to-make-vcd-with-k3b-using-linux.html	02:17
Khisanth	Lunks: you can use vcdimager to create an iso and k3b would definitely be able to burn that :)	02:18
zaxius	how do you hibernate?	02:18
bazhang	xtknight: the vm fix is best for now--surely there will be a workaround eventually--btw I use my mini with no problems at all--the new nano has special features to lock non-itunes (read linux) out of it	02:18
sterling	Jack_Sparrow see pm please.	02:18
obnockshus	gaim seems to be an IM. I'm looking for IRC	02:18
phantomlord	irc://66.252.27.217/crimelifeonline	02:18
Jack_Sparrow	RequinB4: What does IM have to do with his question on IRC CLients	02:18
thor	Lunks I think ffmpeg will also do mpeg input files	02:18
Khisanth	obnockshus: it does that and other things	02:18
xtknight	bazhang, ahh cool	02:18
Jack_Sparrow	sterling: I dont see it	02:18
Thingus	xtknight: Are you have iPod issues?	02:18
fsanlu	khisanth: what the weird thing is... the other laptops and dekstops dont get cut off (they are in windows) and i have another laptop almost identical to this one in vista that doesnt get dc'ed so im surei ts not the router/isp its me	02:18
RequinB4	Jack_Sparrow obnockshus you can IRC with it	02:18
Jack_Sparrow	sterling: Ask in channel	02:18
xtknight	Thingus, with linux? yeah. linux doesnt support the ipod nano 3rd gen yet	02:18
Lunks	Khisanth: that should be vcd imager. :) thank you	02:18
Lunks	thor: thank you, too!	02:19
obnockshus	really? Does it act like an actual IRC?	02:19
Khisanth	fsanlu: I doubt you have all those stacked on top of each other and even then ... :)	02:19
Lunks	And merry xmas everyone!	02:19
zaxius	can you hibernate in ubuntu?	02:19
sterling	I was wondering how I open the package that I downloaded	02:19
xtknight	i was thinking maybe some experimental libipod would support it or something	02:19
jatt	I have two .iso files: test1.iso and test2.iso. How do I burn this isos in _one_ dvd?	02:19
xtknight	but i dont want to destroy it :\	02:19
RequinB4	zaxius - Hit the green guy running	02:19
Thingus	I thought that there was a patch for libgpod, or something like that...	02:19
sterling	since you said I could not open it.	02:19
xtknight	Thingus, ya i saw it too	02:19
xtknight	im afraid of breaking it though	02:19
zaxius	RequinB4, is that a joke?	02:19
fsanlu	khisanth: haha but yah.. its just me that always gets dropped off every ~10 minutes or so.. im not sure what it is	02:19
chrometiger	my desktop applets are broke, wont load, and when i logon to gnome my background and desktop icons are gone i have to alt+f2 and run nautilus to get it back how can i fix this ?	02:19
RequinB4	zaxius - no	02:19
Jack_Sparrow	RequinB4: Thanks, I have used pidgin, but never seen it used for irc.. I will check it out.. thanks	02:19
zaxius	RequinB4, i don't know what you mean then	02:19
obnockshus	applications says "gaim internet messenger"	02:20
Jack_Sparrow	sterling: Are you trying to manually install flash?	02:20
RequinB4	zaxius - what version do you have	02:20
zaxius	RequinB4, feisty	02:20
sterling	I downloaded the package... so yah	02:20
RequinB4	zaxius - go to the button on the far right that looks like a door iirc (on gutsy its a green guy)	02:20
Jack_Sparrow	sterling: /j #Voyager I will give you the easy way.. you are using Firefox right.. not opera or another?	02:20
bazhang	devede for creating vcds from mpeg Lunks	02:21
xtknight	bazhang, i actually did have luck downloading my songs and playing them on the pc though	02:21
RequinB4	zaxius - it should give you unboot options ie hibernate, suspend, shut down, restart	02:21
bazhang	xtknight: from the nano?	02:21
xtknight	bazhang, correct , thru rhythmbox	02:21
zaxius	i'm not running gnome	02:21
fsanlu	is it possible im dropping off cause im using WPA? juts a thought.	02:21
zaxius	i'm running...xgl?	02:21
xtknight	it's uploading that probably doesnt work. and somehow my ipod got wiped after my experiments	02:21
zaxius	what's it called	02:22
xtknight	i think i syncd it blank	02:22
Phophos	Okay, so ALSA can play sound through my speakers, but for some reason no programmes that want to use ALSA can.	02:22
RequinB4	zaxius - -.- have you tried pressing the power button	02:22
sterling	/j #Voyager	02:22
bazhang	xtknight: then that would be earlier than the newest nano--just dont update the firmware and you should be okay--I use mine with amarok no problem	02:22
judgement	networking problems, i need help	02:22
zaxius	RequinB4, no but how would i know if it's hibernating or suspended?	02:22
Joelito	Hi everyone :)	02:22
xtknight	Phophos, how do you figure this?	02:22
xtknight	bazhang, ahh so it's the FW that matters	02:22
Joelito	this is my first test drive on Linux	02:22
xtknight	no idea what this one is	02:22
RequinB4	Hello Joelito, welcome to ubuntu	02:23
aro	Joelito: welcome	02:23
dagon^	welcome Joelito	02:23
RequinB4	zaxius - i'm sorry, i'm confused as to what your question is and where you are, my bad O.o	02:23
Joelito	thanks thanks :)	02:23
judgement	i have a comcast connection w/one network link... i bought a router and want to know how to connect it	02:23
bazhang	xtknight: if it is blank, then it's not really, but that is the new hash sum reporting it is to prevent us non itunes-ers from doing I dont know what	02:23
Joelito	I have a fews questions about it, anyone have a little spare time?	02:23
krimezz	Hi, I am trying to install ubuntu on a raid 1 system and I'm having a problem. On the prepare disk space I click manual then I see 4 options /dev/sda /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdc1 <-this one is not my raid drive and I'm not sure what the other three are.	02:23
zaxius	RequinB4, i'm on a laptop, hibernate = save state to memory and completely power off, suspend/standby = low power state.	02:23
zaxius	RequinB4, but i'll give that a shot	02:23
dagon^	Joelito; shoot :)	02:24
obnockshus	judgement is it a wireless router?	02:24
Phophos	xtknight: It will play sounds through aplay, but if I try any GUIs like Totem or amaroK it will play, but no sound will come out	02:24
xtknight	bazhang, well actually it was blank when i turned on the ipod (ipod itself saw nothing). either that or the hash was broken/invlaidated. something happened though that preventing me from syncing	02:24
AimLXJ	Hey I was curious, I can boot Ubuntu with Windows Vista bootloader correct?	02:24
Phophos	xtknight: Oh, and thanks for helping out (Y)	02:24
kust3r	anyone got the Shadowfire server info?	02:24
ThePub	Solved it. Removed the tabs from the file.]	02:24
xtknight	Phophos, both of those use gstreamer, not necessarily alsa. checked gstreamer options?	02:24
bazhang	xtknight: yeah, google new nano linux and you will see what is up with that	02:24
amerio	hey... need 2 ask , is unmount Hard disk do the same as safe remove?	02:24
RequinB4	zaxius - Yes, i am on a laptop as well. You can acess the GUI hybernate by going to your shut down menu. For me, i press the button that looks like a log out or a guy running or something. Or, i can press the power button.	02:24
judgement	obnockshus: no.. it is just a regular router w/4 connectors + printer connections	02:25
Phophos	xtknight: Yep, how?	02:25
xtknight	amerio, yes exactly	02:25
xtknight	amerio, unmount syncs to disk	02:25
zaxius	k thanks man, i'll give it a shot.	02:25
boo	hey, i have a hidden partition, its fat 32, how do i mount it?	02:25
xtknight	amerio, unmount is "eject" in nautilus	02:25
NKen	judgement, ask comcast	02:25
ThePub	I dont' remember who I was going back and forth with. Whomever you were, the interfaces man isn't right apparently :(	02:25
NKen	judgement, you are paying them	02:25
soldats	unmount is eject in BASH	02:25
amerio	xtknight: but in windows remove safe , my hdd turns off , but when I make unmount here it doesnt turn off	02:25
obnockshus	judgement, it didn't connect after loading linux?	02:26
bazhang	http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/14/new-ipods-reengineer.html xtknight	02:26
xtknight	Phophos, gksu gstreamer-properties	02:26
RequinB4	boo - to mount a hard drive just go to nautlius and right click mount	02:26
xtknight	bazhang, thx	02:26
bazhang	no worries :}	02:26
obnockshus	I use comcast and am having zero issues	02:26
xtknight	amerio, hmm that's a little odd. not sure exactly what is going on there	02:26
Evolution2	boo: mount -a	02:27
boo	thanks	02:27
xtknight	amerio, maybe safe remove in windows is actually removing it from usb node	02:27
xtknight	didnt tihnk it did that	02:27
judgement	obnockshus: i have to connect the comcast router to this new router b/c there is no cable connectors on this router	02:27
xtknight	it makes sense though	02:27
amerio	xtknight: but there is no turn off button on my HDD , suppose 2 turn off auto.	02:27
Rufus_	whats a good music program?	02:27
Phophos	xtknight: Right, that ... worked, I think.	02:27
xtknight	amerio, well usb is a source of power	02:27
Phophos	Rufus_: amaroK	02:27
krimezz	does raid work with ubuntu?	02:27
xtknight	amerio, im not sure how to tell linux to remove power	02:28
xtknight	i guess unmounting is not th same	02:28
Rufus_	is kaffiene good?	02:28
judgement	there is only one connector on the comcast router. i don't know why that is tho	02:28
dagon^	Rufus_; xmms	02:28
bazhang	Rufus_: yes	02:28
amerio	xtknight : unmount is 100% safe?	02:28
obnockshus	that's a comcast wall you're dealing with. you will need their direction	02:28
NKen	krimezz, yes with problems though	02:28
xtknight	amerio, data-wise? yes. it synchronizes buffer to disk	02:28
xtknight	Phophos, test "Default Output" here	02:28
amerio	xtknight: well thanx =) if my hdd got burnt u'll get me a new one :)	02:29
xtknight	amerio, hehe certainly	02:29
NKen	judgement, ask comcast, after all, you are paying them	02:29
amerio	xtknight: thanx , merry christmas	02:29
xtknight	same ^	02:29
amerio	good night all and merry christmas	02:29
krimezz	so would I be better off installing to a non raid drive or try a different distro?	02:29
obnockshus	Judgement, NKen is right. Let comcast deal with it.	02:29
Phophos	xtknight: It crashed. I clicked the input thing and it didn't like it.	02:29
judgement	NKen: okay, anyways ubuntu rocks!	02:29
chrometiger	my desktop applets are broke, wont load, and when i logon to gnome my background and desktop icons are gone i have to alt+f2 and run nautilus to get it back how can i fix this ?	02:30
xtknight	Phophos, it crashed upon testing Output, or upon testing Input ?	02:30
judgement	lemme see if comcast have a chatline	02:30
obnockshus	lol judgement. Yes it does	02:30
J_Laptop	they do - it's web-based	02:30
NKen	krimezz, i would take one of those options	02:30
Phophos	xtknight: On Input. I think I expected that, that's probably an unrelated problem at the minute. What's it's friendly process name?	02:30
* obnockshus is never going back to windows		02:30
krimezz	do you know a good distro that plays well with raid?	02:30
Jack_Sparrow	!raid	02:30
ubotu	Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	02:30
krimezz	thanks btw	02:30
NKen	krimezz, ubuntu will work but you have to read the forums. try searching for your specific problem.	02:31
bazhang	krimezz: fakeraid?	02:31
xtknight	Phophos, sudo killall gstreamer-properties	02:31
boo	I have a hidden partition, how can I unhide it	02:31
xtknight	boo, gksu gparted	02:31
krimezz	bazhang: fakeraid?	02:31
bazhang	krimezz: software raid	02:31
xtknight	hmm	02:31
xtknight	i thought fakeraid was the pseudo-HW controllers?	02:32
Phophos	xtknight: Default Output is now making a stuttering beeping noise	02:32
krimezz	its 2 raptor hd's and the raid is on the motherboard	02:32
boo	xtknight, i can't do it from there	02:32
obnockshus	ok... how difficult is it to run mirc in linux through wine?	02:32
bazhang	krimezz: ahh hardware then --real raid :}	02:32
Phophos	obnockshus: Do you really need to, or can you use XChat?	02:32
Rufus_	when i try to install amarok, it asks for a cd?	02:32
xtknight	boo, manage flags on the partition	02:33
craigbass1976	how do I play wmv in ubuntu? I've tried apt-getting a couple apps I read about, but they're not in the repos. There's got to be one... or a codec for something I already have?	02:33
xtknight	boo, uncheck Hidden	02:33
Rufus_	why?	02:33
chickendinnerwin	is there a tutorial on how to boot an iso image located on my hd?	02:33
Phophos	Rufus_: Did you install from the Gutsy CD?	02:33
Riddick	I have a question that I have read about on some ubuntu blogs. when i log into my ubuntu box my delete/backspace key does not delete backwards when i launch Irssi. it works normally until then. does anyone know of a fix for this? it is really annoying.	02:33
NKen	obnockshus, why run mirc? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90073	02:33
xtknight	boo, right click->manage flags	02:33
Jack_Sparrow	krimezz: Many onboard raid are fakeraid....	02:33
Rufus_	phophos, no, i got from add/remove programs	02:33
bazhang	Rufus_: open synaptic and disable cd as software source	02:33
dagon^	craigbass1976; VLC	02:33
xtknight	Phophos, it didnt do this before? what changeD	02:33
obnockshus	I'm using Xchat now. Can't figure out how to make it run like my mirc ran. Alias, remotes etc...	02:33
Phophos	Rufus_: Sorry, didn't clarify. Did you install Ubuntu from CD?	02:33
Rufus_	yes	02:34
craigbass1976	chickendinnerwin, look in /etc/fstab and make a line that looks like one of the booting ones there. /dev/xxx will be different, and the filesystem type will be iso9660 or some such, I think	02:34
Rufus_	test-installation	02:34
krimezz	jack_sparrow: how do I find out what I am	02:34
xtknight	craigbass1976, vlc (VideoLan CLIENT) or mplayer	02:34
NKen	obnockshus, read manuals	02:34
boo	xtknight, its not hidden in gparted, but it is elsewhere	02:34
NKen	obnockshus, its easy	02:34
boo	and what does lba mean?	02:34
Phophos	xtknight: It wasn't making any noise before, this is a good sign. I don't think anything changed but I changed the stuff in the drop down menu from Auto to Default to Auto again	02:34
xtknight	craigbass1976, i think for WMA3 audio you may need w32codecs	02:34
Jack_Sparrow	krimezz: read that link and identify for hardware	02:34
obnockshus	where are the manuals?	02:34
xtknight	boo, large block addressing	02:34
xtknight	boo, not really sure other than that ;)	02:34
x-X-x	can i theme the bars at the top and bottom of my desktop?	02:34
obnockshus	ub=nder "help"?	02:35
Rufus_	so, what do i do?	02:35
xtknight	boo, you can right click the partition in GPARTED, click Manage Flags, and uncheck hidden , right?	02:35
craigbass1976	Criminy... I wish my wife's friends would wise up and send open format video attachments...	02:35
chickendinnerwin	craigbass1976, im a beginner so i dont think ill be able to figure it out like that	02:35
Phophos	xtknight: Sorry, not Defalt but ALSA	02:35
bazhang	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=447913 x-X-x	02:35
NKen	http://forum.xchat.org/	02:35
xtknight	Phophos, so it works now?	02:35
chickendinnerwin	i was curious if there was a tutorial or a discussion on the internet i could read along with	02:35
obnockshus	*under	02:35
zaxius	RequinB4, didn't work, maybe cuz i'm running wubi.	02:35
nickrud	x-X-x, sorta, right click and select properties	02:35
Phophos	Rufus_: System > Administration > Software Sources	02:35
zaxius	RequinB4, it just hung with a flashing cursor in the corner of the screen.	02:35
NKen	obnockshus, http://forum.xchat.org/	02:35
xtknight	Phophos, probably a bug, i dont know.	02:35
Rufus_	yes?	02:35
NKen	search	02:35
obnockshus	lol. I keep thinking .com	02:35
boo	ok i have an odd recovery type partition, how can i tell if its bootable?	02:35
Phophos	Rufus_: Uncheck CDROM	02:35
craigbass1976	chickendinnerwin, Stop it. go to rafb.net/paste and paste the contents of /etc/fstab there I'll see if I can give you a hand. I've never booted off an iso located off the hard drive though, but it should be the same as booting off a cd	02:36
Rufus_	okay	02:36
Phophos	xtknight: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's working now, Kopete is making irritating noises	02:36
xtknight	boo, dump the boot sector ?	02:36
craigbass1976	chickendinnerwin, your days of "I can't do it" are OVER dude. In Linux, you CAN!!!	02:36
xtknight	boo, sudo dd if=/dev/hdx \| strings \| less	02:36
Phophos	xtknight: And now amaroK is playing, erm, definitely not Korn, so all is good	02:36
xtknight	boo, then if you see boot code/error msg strings in the first few lines probably	02:37
xtknight	boo, make sure it's "dd if" not "dd of"...	02:37
xtknight	"of" is output, that can overwrite stuff	02:37
chickendinnerwin	craigbass1976, i dont have ubuntu up and running yet. im still on xp and i dont have any blank discs lying around right now	02:37
craigbass1976	chickendinnerwin, it is Christmas eve though, so I'll be switching between breaks from wrapping and helping you :)	02:37
chickendinnerwin	so i dont have an fstab	02:37
boo	haha, i have no idea what that means. im having problems booting windows, i think a hidden partition was initially flagged as boot, but grub changed it. im trying to tell by the files within the drive if its bootable	02:38
craigbass1976	chickendinnerwin, Ahh, then you might be out of luck. I have no idea how to tell windows to boot of something other than windows. I don't think windows allows it really; probably why GRUB needs to be installed.	02:38
Khisanth	you can check the partition table for that	02:38
craigbass1976	chickendinnerwin, you think you're getting some cds for XMAS?	02:38
Phophos	Right. Now for a completely unrelated problem. Why doesn't my microphone work?	02:38
xtknight	Phophos, this can be more tough to get working	02:38
craigbass1976	Phophos, and now for something completely different... is that Monty Python?	02:39
xtknight	Phophos, might need to mess with Switches in the GNOME mixer applet. but they are labeled differently for every sound card!!	02:39
sidewalk	wheei, works fine now	02:39
chickendinnerwin	craigbass1976, ive done it before with another distro (sidux) you just need a working grub (ie any live cd with grub on it)	02:39
Phophos	xtknight: Tell me about it. I think I broke my sound when I tried to fix my mic. Yes, that's Monty Python already.	02:39
chickendinnerwin	but certain things i imagine require a different setting or two	02:39
boo	xtknight, how do i tell if its boot code?	02:40
craigbass1976	chickendinnerwin, Ahh, not sure. I didn't mess around too much. Played with a couple live cds, then switched over when Fedora1 came out	02:40
xtknight	boo, do you know the block device?	02:40
xtknight	boo, /dev/sda1 or etc..	02:40
boo	yeah, its /dev/sda6	02:40
boo	oddly, i don't have a /dev/sda4 though	02:41
xtknight	boo, probably extended partition	02:41
Phophos	xtknight: I'll try playing with the switches, but when I tried Default Input on gstreamer-properties it crashed horribly	02:41
boo	no, extended is 3	02:41
boo	but within that is 5 and 6	02:41
xtknight	hmm	02:41
boo	this is in gparted	02:41
xtknight	boo, "sudo dd if=/dev/sda6 \| strings \| less"	02:41
boo	but when i do fdisk -l, i see 4 and 6 as the same	02:41
xtknight	boo, this should allow you to see some text. if you see error message strings then it probably has a boot sector	02:42
RequinB4	!wordpress	02:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about wordpress - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:42
xtknight	boo, like "BOOTMGR is missing" or anything with "boot" in it. it just dumps the contents of the whole boot program	02:42
boo	xtknight, nothing comes up	02:42
xtknight	boo, hmm	02:42
chickendinnerwin	craigbass1976, ill play around. in sidux i need to have two files in the same directory as the iso. vmlinuz and initrd. any idea if i need those too?	02:42
xtknight	boo, "sudo dd if=/dev/sda6 count=512 bs=1 \| strings"	02:43
boo	xtknight, my mbr/partition table has taken some serious beating	02:43
tofaffy	When I plug my SD memory card into my pc, If I try and delete pics, I'll unplug the card and put it back on and they are still there. I don't know if they are actually deleted and ubuntu is still showing them or what...any ideas?	02:43
boo	ok	02:44
boo	i see "boot disk failure" as the last line	02:44
judgement	good thing comcast did help... no bots like microsoft chat help! lol!	02:44
xtknight	boo, pretty sure it prolly has a boot sector on it	02:44
xtknight	u just chainloader it from grub i think	02:44
boo	ok	02:44
boo	wait	02:44
xtknight	sda6 is (hd0,5) in grub	02:44
boo	do i flag that partition as boot in gparted, or do i set it to boot in grub	02:45
xtknight	i dont think boot even matters actually	02:45
xtknight	i dont know though	02:45
boo	i tried hd0,5 in grub and nothing happened	02:45
xtknight	boo, chainload and all?	02:45
boo	yeah	02:45
xtknight	hmm	02:45
boo	at least i think i did, i could try again	02:45
boo	this is a uni laptop, so there was preloaded stuff (like this partition	02:46
xtknight	boo, i'd just google recovery partition and grub	02:46
xtknight	might need special cmds	02:46
Phophos	xtknight: Thanks for your help with gstreamer, is there anything else you could suggest for my microphone?	02:46
xtknight	boo, at least this is for thinkpads maybe http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-46088.html	02:46
xtknight	boo, has some helpful grub info	02:47
xtknight	boo, maybe grub recognizes sda6 not as hd0,5 but something else? i dont know why it would though	02:47
Jack_Sparrow	boo: Also look at booting your Windows cd / recovery mode and fixmbr to get back into windows, then you can always fix grub to see ubuntu	02:47
skso1	hey guys, how do i map my media keys on my laptop to do custom commands?	02:47
boo	fixmbr and fixboot doesnt do anything	02:47
Jack_Sparrow	boo: Also look at uuid in your grub	02:48
boo	ive tried	02:48
RequinB4	This has nothing to do with relating to everything, but i hate services that assume you have windows and don't tell you until you get the .exe file! [/rant]	02:48
boo	whats uuid	02:48
xtknight	skso1, system preferences keybaord shortcuts allows u to do some. otherwise, gconf-editor can do custom commands	02:48
Jack_Sparrow	!uuid	02:48
ubotu	To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)	02:48
xtknight	skso1, you'll have to find the gconf key if you want to do custom ones	02:48
skso1	i have the keys	02:48
xtknight	Phophos, hmm	02:48
Jon__	Whats the pro screenshot program	02:48
xtknight	Phophos, well open the gnome mixer applet	02:48
Jon__	terminal based	02:48
boo	oh wow this might work	02:48
skso1	so is it a built in package? the gconf-editor?	02:48
xtknight	skso1, yea	02:49
boo	hiding hd0,0 and unhiding hd0,5	02:49
xtknight	skso1, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/assign-custom-shortcut-keys-on-ubuntu-linux/	02:49
Phophos	xtknight: I killed that when I was fixing ALSA, how do I invoke it?	02:49
Jack_Sparrow	goodnight all	02:49
bazhang	gnight Jack_Sparrow	02:49
skso1	heh, thanks	02:49
xtknight	Phophos, gnome-volume-control	02:49
RequinB4	Jack_Sparrow - good night, and merry christmas	02:50
fsanlu	i installed automatix.. and i tried installing the flash-plugin and it didnt work.. how do i uninstall automatix?	02:50
* xtknight got coal for xmas		02:50
Pelo	xtknight, how lucky you can barbecue now	02:50
fsanlu	because it doesnt show upi n the add/remove place	02:50
Phophos	xtknight: Okay, got it	02:50
xtknight	mmm :)	02:50
bazhang	fsanlu: then you are in deep trouble--automatix breaks things and is not supported here	02:50
phlux	Anyone using fluxbox on ubuntu?	02:50
fsanlu	bazhang: i wanna delete it! how do i uninstall it?	02:51
bazhang	phlux: used it	02:51
* Pelo is in an out making pork stew atm		02:51
* RequinB4 steals some of Pelo's stew		02:51
phlux	bazhang: So it IS possible to install other WMs on Ubuntu?	02:51
bazhang	fsanlu: ask in their channel	02:51
xtknight	Phophos, all i can suggest is Edit->Preferences, enable all the options, then mess with them	02:51
Pelo	phlux, I know several ppl do , but that's all	02:51
Khisanth	phlux: not currently but I was up until a week ago :)	02:51
bazhang	phlux: oh yes :}	02:51
phlux	pft	02:51
* Pelo thinks RequinB4 is gonna have indigestions from the half cooked stew		02:51
xtknight	Phophos, in edit preferences you just enable their visibility. then click OK and mess with the options that later appear in the applet thru the tabs	02:51
phlux	My brother was telling me that if you used ubuntu you HAD to use Gnome	02:52
xtknight	phlux, false	02:52
bazhang	Pelo: haha	02:52
phlux	I'm swapping from FreeBSD to Linux on my new laptop...so I'm a new Linux user here...technically.	02:52
xtknight	you can even use KDE on ubuntu without having Kubuntu	02:52
Phophos	xtknight: Thanks. They were all enabled already because I always have trouble on a new installation with this soundcard.	02:52
bazhang	phlux: ever heard of gOS?	02:52
Pelo	phlux, ubuntu comes with gnome, kubuntu comes with kde, xubuntu with xfce , and blubuntu with bluebox	02:52
phlux	I've got Vista on here as a primary partition. Will that be a problem?	02:52
RequinB4	Pelo - It's ok, i've had worse	02:52
phlux	bazhang: Nope..what's that?	02:52
xtknight	phlux, no problem	02:52
xtknight	phlux, i had vista also	02:52
bazhang	phlux: enlightenment on top of ubuntu	02:53
aro	phlux: works for me	02:53
Pelo	xtknight, sorry to hear about that, is there anything the doctors can do ?	02:53
phlux	e17 would be nice	02:53
Pelo	phlux, sudo apt-get install enlightenment	02:53
bazhang	!bug#1	02:53
ubotu	For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	02:53
xtknight	Pelo, hmm ?	02:54
xtknight	oh	02:54
xtknight	:)	02:54
RequinB4	Pelo, sudo apt-get install life	02:54
Joelito	what p2p do you recommend to use?	02:54
xtknight	yes, i wiped it shortly thereafter	02:54
xtknight	now i have a broken vista bootloader and xp	02:54
Pelo	RequinB4, errors no package found	02:54
rainwalker	dagon^: you still here?	02:54
dagon^	yup	02:54
RequinB4	Pelo - try connecting your computer to the internet	02:55
rainwalker	dagon^: made some progress	02:55
dagon^	rainwalker; nice :)	02:55
rainwalker	dagon^: I know my webcam works because other apps have been able to use it	02:55
fsanlu	whew i deleted it.. thank God	02:55
rainwalker	dagon^: and there's something with amsn about being firewalled	02:56
dagon^	rainwalker; aha	02:56
RequinB4	:D	02:56
bazhang	fsanlu: the damage will still be there though	02:56
rainwalker	dagon^: don't know what to do about it though	02:56
xtknight	Phophos, any luck?	02:56
fsanlu	bazhang: i dont think i damged anything... it doesnt seem like anything is wrong for now so its not that bad	02:56
wayniwoo	ML r u here???	02:56
bazhang	fsanlu: back up all your stuff	02:57
gumpo	I could use some help... After i installed the restricted nvidia (new) drivers, my sound stopped working. (Audigy 4, worked fine until i restarted after enabling the nvidia driver)	02:57
Mistylady	I'm jere	02:57
Phophos	xtknight: Not yet. I've been given a walkthough by #alsa	02:57
bazhang	!u \| wayniwoo	02:57
ubotu	wayniwoo: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..	02:57
xtknight	sudo apt-get install life gives me dependency errors. it says i need Kaffeine :)	02:57
dagon^	rainwalker; check your preferences on amsn	02:57
dagon^	rainwalker; connections tab	02:57
rainwalker	dagon^: I am, but I have no idea what this port stuff is all about	02:57
Mistylady	wayni are u there?	02:57
fsanlu	bazhang: this is just a fresh intsall of ubuntu... im just setting things up.. so i odnt have any data here	02:58
dagon^	rainwalker; mine is set to standard	02:58
terraNova	hi there, can someone help me out with a wine issue?	02:58
rainwalker	dagon^: what is standard?	02:58
bazhang	fsanlu: tread very carefully; it likely has compromised your system	02:58
dagon^	rainwalker; no idea but it works for me =/	02:58
terraNova	I'm trying to install office 2003, and it gives me an error, saying that office isn't installed for the current user.	02:58
Mistylady	Hey wayni	02:59
Pelo	terraNova, depends on the issue the channel for wine is #winehq, if your issues has nothing to do with ubuntu, but try asking here anyway	02:59
bazhang	Mistylady: please cut it out	02:59
rainwalker	dagon^: what port?	02:59
wayniwoo	Misty, lets go back...	02:59
terraNova	I did consult the wine site and it said that it is a normal error, and to downgrade wine to 0.9.37 then upgrade, and it'll work	02:59
Mistylady	ok	02:59
bazhang	fsanlu: may as well do a fresh install without automatix--not needed at all anymore	02:59
terraNova	but I can't downgrade it to below 0.9.42	02:59
terraNova	and that doesn't fix it	02:59
dagon^	rainwalker; standard is 1863	03:00
krimezz	is it a good idea to create seperate partitions for /boot /root and /swap .. also thanks jack_sparrow.. I'm getting closer	03:00
Pelo	terraNova, I would ask in #winehq	03:00
terraNova	okay	03:00
terraNova	thanks	03:00
bazhang	krimezz: dont forget /home :}	03:00
krimezz	(logical partitions)	03:00
krimezz	bazhang:I have a 10gb partition any suggestions on how to devide them?	03:01
ugarit	I have 7.04 installed and I have the 7.10 cd is there a way to upgrade via the cd?	03:01
Pelo	ugarit, if you ahve the dvd or the alternate intall cd, yes	03:01
Pelo	!upgrade > ugarit check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu	03:01
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borndeer	Hey , I installed Java 6 through the Synaptic Package Manager , but when I started to use java , an error occurred like this : <java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory>. Any idea ?	03:02
bazhang	krimezz: the advantage to /home is you can then install again and data is not lost	03:02
boo	xtknight, I managed to boot into the recovery partition	03:02
boo	is it possible that I would need chainloader +2?	03:02
jing_	i have a problem	03:02
bazhang	ask away jing_	03:02
Pelo	jing_, we need a question	03:03
jing_	after I type "export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0"	03:03
boo	hey Pelo I booted into the recovery partition.	03:03
RequinB4	I have a semi-ubuntu related question(bash me if i'm too off topic). I'm thinking of a web site that will work like google docs to share/edit text files, then be able to compile them in various languages. Would this be something I could do on a third party hosting system or would i need my own apache server?	03:03
Pelo	boo, if that is the case that might be the answer aimxl needed	03:03
jing_	and then I type xhost +	03:03
jing_	"xterm" can not display in my computer "192.168.0.101"	03:04
jing_	is there anybody know why?	03:04
Pelo	jing_, I think the syntax is export DISPLAY=:192.168.0.101	03:04
bascule	RequinB4: well some hosting will allow root access to a machine so go for your life, others won't, depends on the hosting service you can hire really	03:04
krimezz	bazhang: so what kind of space should /home /boot /root and /swap have allocated for them?	03:04
Pelo	!enter \| jing_	03:05
ubotu	jing_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	03:05
jing_	to Pelo, thanks , i am trying....	03:05
toni_	et	03:05
ugarit	where is the alternate cd?	03:05
RequinB4	bascule - so i definitly need root access?	03:05
toni_	ce_imoet	03:05
RequinB4	I'm in the conceptural phase	03:05
Pelo	ugarit, you can get it on the ubuntu site, jsut select as you would for your regular cd and check the alternate cd box just bellow the download now button	03:06
boo	Pelo, do you know if chainloader +2 might help?	03:06
Pelo	boo, no idea	03:06
Khisanth	RequinB4: only if you need complete control over everything	03:06
bascule	RequinB4: it al depends, but I have never developed a web app, so not the best placed to advise, many things can be done wothout root	03:06
Pelo	boo, try it, it can'T hurt any	03:06
bazhang	krimezz: the swap question is a hotly contested one; some say twice ram, others disagree--most for /home and enough for the install plus whatever packages you want to install for / and /boot can be very small iirc	03:06
jing_	to Pelo, I use the command "export DISPLAY=:192.168.0.101", and I still have a wrong result "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :192.168.0.101"	03:06
RequinB4	Khisanth bascule - well, hopefully i wouldn't have to write the back-end stuff myself, just organize it all into a page and get rid of the human element that is currently needed	03:07
Khisanth	at some point 2x RAM stops making sense	03:07
Pelo	jing_, where is this suppose to display to ? and why are you using an ip ?	03:07
bascule	Khisanth: agreed, above 2gb swap is pointless, unless you are doing huge images	03:07
bazhang	Khisanth: so 6GB for swap is overkill?	03:07
Dr_willis	6gb swap is way overkill. :)	03:08
bascule	bazhang: ludicrous	03:08
Khisanth	6GB is overkill no matter how much RAM you have	03:08
kyu_flux	bazhang: we had this discussion earlier - I have 8 GB and I was told it was too much =)	03:08
Dr_willis	of course dosetn the suspend feature - use the swap partition?	03:08
bazhang	bascule: I thought so--but too late now haha	03:08
Phophos	bazhang: 6GB is a lot of swap, alright!	03:08
cua0	is there an x app to monitor hardware? temps and such..	03:08
bazhang	kyu_flux: ah so :}	03:08
bazhang	Phophos: hotly contested desu-ka? :}	03:09
boo	hey, could a partition being primary/boot/logical affect its ability to be booted?	03:09
Dr_willis	boo, ive seenit affect windows.. but not linux.	03:09
bascule	Dr_willis: a good point, maybe have 1.25*ram on one swap and a sensible amount for usual swap on another	03:09
Pelo	boo, that is what I was starting to think earlier but it's realy over my head	03:09
bazhang	cua0: sensors	03:09
boo	Dr_willis, my problem is with windows, can you tell me anything about it?	03:09
bascule	boo: not by grub	03:09
Khisanth	if it gets to the point where you are using more than 1GB of swapp and probably before that, in most cases your system won't be very usable anyway	03:09
Dr_willis	I have never understood how a system can suspend and use swap to suspend to.. what if swap was being used.. where did it suspend to...	03:10
bascule	Khisanth: I saw a solaris machine with >1000 days uptime, 512MB and 3GB swapped out	03:10
krimezz	I have 2gb ram so 2gb swap should be more than enough?	03:10
boo	alright, originally, my computer booted straight to windows, but there was a 2 sec thing that said (to boot recovery partition, press f11), then when i installed ubuntu, i couldn't boot windows	03:10
bazhang	sorry for launching this offtopic-fest!	03:10
Nilbus	Hello. I'm running Xgl [Xgl :3 -accel xv:pbuffer -accel glx:pbuffer -nolisten tcp -fullscreen -br +xinerama	03:10
Nilbus	and Xgl segfaults when I run something like glxgears	03:10
bascule	Khisanth: averaged 30 logged in users	03:11
Khisanth	bazhang: was that a desktop? :)	03:11
Nilbus	X dies and restarts	03:11
bazhang	Khisanth: it is a desktop! :}	03:11
Gurby	hi	03:11
Nilbus	any ideas on how I might fix this problem?	03:11
bazhang	hi gurby	03:11
RequinB4	hello gurby	03:11
bazhang	boo: windows cannot be booted? grub problem?	03:11
boo	yeah	03:12
bazhang	boo yeah to both?	03:12
boo	its a grub problem but no one in #grub knows how to help (or noone is therE)	03:12
boo	yeah to both	03:12
bazhang	boo which was installed first?	03:12
Gurby	hello	03:12
bazhang	boo want a link?	03:12
boo	windows came preinstalled with its own recovery partition	03:12
boo	sure	03:12
bazhang	http://apcmag.com/6101/dualboot_windows_xp_and_ubuntu boo	03:13
nickrud	Dr_willis, that's why swap needs to be BIG	03:13
boo	this isn't a normal problem	03:13
bazhang	gurby we need a question to help you	03:13
boo	is telling grub to boot a partition and setting the partition as bootable the same thing?	03:14
bazhang	boo none of them are; thus the moniker 'problem' :}	03:14
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boo	:P	03:14
bazhang	boo is windows listed in grub menu?	03:15
ce_imoet	hi	03:15
boo	yes	03:15
bazhang	hi ce_imoet	03:15
RequinB4	hi ce_imoet	03:15
ce_imoet	hi	03:15
boo	originally, i booted to windows and got a BSOD	03:15
bazhang	boo and it refuses to boot?	03:15
boo	then i did fixboot/fixmbr and igot NTLDR is missing	03:15
jing_	To Pelo, I use the "putty" to connect an UNIX(HPUX) from an PC(Ubuntu 7.10) via network, andnow i want to display the xterm in my PC, so ,i type "export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0" in the UNIX, type "xhost + " in my PC, and then type "xterm &" in UNIX(HPUX), however it can not work, My PC's IP is 192.168.0.101, and i am sure that i do not type the incorrect word, i don't know why it can't work in Ubuntu, it work very well in RedHat and Mandriva	03:15
bascule	what	03:15
boo	now i just get a blinking underscore	03:15
ce_imoet	what are you doing?	03:15
bascule	boo: what file, ntfs.sys? (on that bsod)	03:15
bazhang	boo hmm problem with windows,, that is something new I think	03:16
bazhang	ce_imoet: this is a support channel	03:16
boo	i could read the bsod, it was too fast	03:16
crimsun	jing_: did you explicitly enable trusted X forwarding in putty?	03:16
bascule	boo: download a boot util known as gag and burn the cd, boot it and read the instructions, reckon it will rescue you	03:17
Khisanth	and a X server running on your PC :)	03:17
ce_imoet	whatever	03:17
boo	thanks	03:17
masticator	Is there a good DVD burning software for Ubuntu for burning an AVI to a DVD as a Video Disk?	03:17
bascule	boo: well ot's past that now, but you can tap F8 and say disable automatic restart on failure	03:17
bazhang	devede masticator	03:17
RequinB4	!devede	03:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about devede - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:17
jing_	to crimsun, i am sure that the X forwarding's enable in putty	03:17
ce_imoet	hjk	03:17
masticator	bazhang thanks a lot!	03:18
amerio	does anybody know how 2 add a sound card to alsa ?	03:18
crimsun	jing_: not just X forwarding.	03:18
bazhang	!ot \| ce_imoet	03:18
ubotu	ce_imoet: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	03:18
bazhang	masticator: no worries :}	03:18
jing_	because, when i try the DISPLAY in my PC, it's still wrong	03:18
crimsun	jing_: note: trusted X forwarding.	03:18
Phophos	xtknight: I'm back. The command 'arecord' doesn't give me a volume meter in the terminal, and it also won't play back any recorded sound (assuming there is one)	03:19
crimsun	Phophos: it shouldn't give you a meter.	03:19
Phophos	xtknight: Oh, and I'm following this help page: http://home.cfl.rr.com/infofiles/record.html	03:19
boo	is telling grub to boot a partition and setting the partition as bootable the same thing?	03:19
jing_	I start two "gnome-terminal", and in the first terminal type "xhost +", in the second terminal type "export DISPLAY=192.168.0.101:0" "xterm &", it don't work	03:20
Condoulo	ok, I already have Ubuntu install. But I want to install XP on my second hard drive. How does this sound. Disabling the drive with Ubuntu on it, then installing XP on the second hard drive, and then re-enable the ubuntu drive, and edit GRUB to recognize the XP drive.	03:20
amerio	does anybody know how 2 add a sound card to alsa ?	03:20
boo	sounds good to me, Condoulo , but i'm having lots of boot problems right now ^_^	03:20
bazhang	Condoulo: do you know how to do that?	03:20
Phophos	crimsun: I'm a little confused then ... How to test if my microphone is working?	03:21
Condoulo	bazhang- ummm.. the GRUB part I am still lacking in knowledge of. But I know I can go into BIOS and enable/disable drives.	03:21
crimsun	Phophos: System> Preferences> Sound	03:21
bazhang	Condoulo: then prepare to learn! :} want a factoid?	03:21
bascule	boo: no bootable partitions are legacy ms boot loader only technology	03:21
Condoulo	bazhang- sure.	03:22
masticator	Is there a command when doing an apt-get to tell it to go ahead and nistall ALL the reommended and suggested packages as well?	03:22
bazhang	!grub \| Condoulo	03:22
ubotu	Condoulo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	03:22
redd0t	use aptitude instead of apt-get masticator	03:22
redd0t	masticator: e.g. sudo aptitude install <package name>	03:23
wy	What's going on with the vim installed with ubuntu 7.10? It seems that nothing in VIM works by default, even if I turn off the compat mode	03:23
Phophos	crimsun: Okay, thanks :) I got the following error message: Failed to construct test pipeline for 'gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat'	03:23
Condoulo	bazhang- wouldn't I be able to just go by my plan though and then add windows XP to GRUB by editing the file that has it.	03:23
crimsun	masticator: Recommends are done by default. -o APT::Install-Suggests=True	03:23
masticator	nice, thanks a lot!	03:24
musashi	anyone know how to change a file type? i have a torrent file that claims it's a text file and won't open.	03:24
bazhang	Condoulo: seems possible, though I never use windows :}	03:24
bazhang	musashi: re download it	03:24
Dr_willis	musashi, you could just drag it to the torrent client.. most will load it that way.	03:24
Condoulo	bazhang- Ah. Well I have had an recent itch to game, so I have been wanting to re-install XP home.	03:24
musashi	bazhang, will try again	03:24
Dr_willis	musashi, its also possible the torrent file is currupted..	03:24
Phophos	crimsun: And, to add insult to injury, gnome-sound-properties crashed.	03:24
musashi	Dr_willis, opening with deluge crashes it	03:24
bazhang	Condoulo: get a wii! :}	03:24
Condoulo	bazhang- but at the same time, keep my favorite Ubuntu. :)	03:24
Nilbus	I see on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompizFeedback that my video card (Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller) has the bug "3d crashes X". It also says "Runs only with XGL, can run without it but it have the bug of no XV in video and you blacklisted it", which I don't really understand. Is there a workaround so I can use 3d apps?	03:25
Dr_willis	musashi, sounds more like a bad torrent file to me :)	03:25
bazhang	Condoulo: of course! :}	03:25
Condoulo	Bazhang- Well I have Half-life2 Death Match on my steam account. And have been itching to play that.	03:25
bazhang	Condoulo: you are forgiven :}	03:25
musashi	Dr_willis, if i can find it again i'll try redownloading it. thanks	03:25
theremper	hello does anyone know the terminal command to get to my desktop	03:25
Nilbus	theremper, cd ~/Desktop ?	03:25
bazhang	theremper: the graphical desktop?	03:25
Phophos	theremper: Can you be more specific?	03:26
theremper	no terminal desktop	03:26
crimsun	Phophos: what is the default source set to?	03:26
rainwalker	theremper: cd /path/to/desktop (replace that with the actual path)	03:26
crimsun	Phophos: using `gstreamer-properties`	03:26
theremper	ok thanks	03:26
SignallerFDC	hi all	03:26
ublender	Merry Christmas All	03:26
SignallerFDC	i am new	03:26
SignallerFDC	i am from singapore	03:27
musashi	Dr_willis, well, it must be corrupted on the site 'casue each time i download it it's a text file	03:27
Phophos	crimsun: Plugin: ALSA, Device: Default	03:27
bazhang	SignallerFDC: this is a support channel	03:27
theremper	thanks that worked	03:27
SignallerFDC	sorry	03:27
musashi	Dr_willis, thanks anyway.	03:27
Dr_willis	musashi, open it in a text editor and see. :)	03:27
musashi	Dr_willis, it won't. says it can't open it.	03:28
boo	bascule, that didn't work	03:28
boo	same blinking cursor	03:28
musashi	Dr_willis, The filename "35_Christmas_albums.torrent" indicates that this file is of type "BitTorrent seed file". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain text document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.	03:28
bazhang	musashi: come to #ubuntu-offtopic	03:28
Dr_willis	musashi, fire up gedit. tell it to open it?	03:28
theremper	i know this is an ubuntu form but I was wondering if anyone knows of a distro that is lite and easy to use also support for flash 9	03:28
bazhang	theremper: go to #linuxhelp	03:29
crimsun	Phophos: tried something other than alsa for the source, like oss?	03:29
theremper	ok thanks	03:29
Phophos	crimsun: It failed to construct a test pipeline for that, too ...	03:30
crimsun	Phophos: make sure you close everything using the audio device	03:30
Phophos	crimsun: Nothing is, as far as I know. Is there a v. quick way to check?	03:30
theremper	does anyone else have a problem with flash loading very very slow	03:31
crimsun	Phophos: record something to a file. Try audacity.	03:31
redd0t	theremper: flash in linux sucks. adobe is the antichrist	03:31
bascule	boo: what happened?	03:32
theremper	reddot that is sad I need flash	03:32
Phophos	crimsun: It's not crashing it anymore :S	03:32
redd0t	theremper: i mean i still use adobes flash, but it does suck.	03:32
bazhang	redd0t: perhaps but way offtopic	03:32
boo	bascule, i told it to boot windows and i still just see this blinking cursor	03:33
theremper	I have one windows machine left in my house that is for flash only. If I could fix flash then windows would be out of my house	03:33
boo	im almost positive something is wrong with my partition table, boot sector or mbr	03:33
bascule	boo: but how, did you save gag to the mbr?	03:33
bazhang	theremper: flash is broken right now--not an ubuntu issue but one with adobe	03:33
boo	i installed gag, but when i rebooted, it went to grub	03:34
theremper	could I install flash in wine and firefox in wine and use windows flash	03:34
redd0t	theremper: yes	03:34
* Condoulo hates Adobe		03:35
redd0t	Condoulo: me too	03:35
theremper	I am starting to hate adobe	03:35
Phophos	crimsun: I don't have Audacity and apt-get doesn't want to install it for some reason - can't connect to the archives.	03:35
Zoo	How can I make a file to have read and write access?	03:35
Zoo	chmod but what else with it?	03:35
theremper	would that solve my flash problem?	03:35
bazhang	theremper: talk about slow--that will be molasses	03:35
Condoulo	I love Adobe, but at the same time, I hate them with a Passion.	03:35
theremper	any suggestions or just keep the windows machine	03:36
redd0t	theremper: idk. i have never wined ff+flash. the problem is there aren't any good alternatives to flash and its a huge part of the internet now	03:36
Phophos	What	03:36
bazhang	theremper: you have to have the fix at this moment? there is a workaround for flash	03:36
Phophos	What's that open-source alternative to Adobe Flash called? It's a plugin for Firefox?	03:36
bazhang	gnash	03:36
theremper	yes but does gnash support flash9	03:37
nickrud	Phophos, gnash , but it's still a work in progress, doesn't work on youtube for example	03:37
nickrud	!flash \| theremper	03:37
ubotu	theremper: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	03:37
ubotu	The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.	03:37
redd0t	i thought gnash wasnt really ready yet	03:37
Phophos	nickrud: Yeah. Doesn't work on most video sites. But it's got a cute name.	03:37
bazhang	the only reason to use flash youtube and it does not support it sorry for the offtopic	03:37
theremper	I have flash 9 installed its just really slow	03:37
nickrud	Phophos, heh. for some reason open source developers like silly names :)	03:38
Mr_Sonoma	Zoo, chmod a+rw filename	03:38
redd0t	how slow	03:38
* Phophos grins wildly.		03:38
bazhang	theremper: then it may be a hardware issue--flash is no problem here	03:38
Zoo	Mr_Sonoma: Ty	03:38
bazhang	theremper: what computer how much ram etc	03:38
theremper	perhaps but on my previous os the same machine flash was fine?	03:38
Phophos	Can anyone get a response from archive.ubuntu.com?	03:39
Zoo	Mr_Sonoma: Hmm. Didn't work	03:39
Zoo	Mr_Sonoma: Still belongs to root, I cant modify it	03:39
bazhang	theremper: you want to try to fix it or chat about it?	03:39
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theremper	fix it	03:39
Zoo	Mr_Sonoma: nvm	03:39
Mr_Sonoma	ah, ok then use sudo chmod a+rw filename	03:39
bazhang	theremper: then answer my question how much ram what computer etc	03:39
Zoo	Mr_Sonoma: And how can I make it not executable	03:40
theremper	ok here are my small specs 384 megs ram 1 ghz proc	03:40
bazhang	Phophos: yeah but real slow	03:40
NixPanther	Hi guys, I recently put a different DVD drive and a CD RW into my machine and I can'r get them to work in Ubuntu. Any idea's?	03:40
Dark-Magician	My sister got on the computer and made the titlebars on windows disapper and i have no idea how she did, anyone know?	03:40
xtknight	Phophos, sorry ive been away what's up/	03:40
Phophos	xtknight: It's okay, thanks for your continuing support.	03:40
Mr_Sonoma	Zoo, sudo chmod a-x filename should do it	03:40
bazhang	theremper: the ram is the issue I believe--that is bare bones as it is	03:40
xtknight	Phophos, i havent really ever recoded audio before so all i could suggest is messing w/ mixer	03:41
Phophos	xtknight: I'm trying to make a recording, but nothing wants to have anything to do with the microphone.	03:41
bazhang	Dark-Magician: did you ask her?	03:41
theremper	so more ram would solve the problem	03:41
Dark-Magician	shes 2 an a half..	03:41
crimsun	Phophos: pastebin your amixer output.	03:41
Zoo	Mr_Sonoma: Thanks a lot	03:41
bazhang	theremper: how old is this computer	03:41
Mr_Sonoma	Zoo, man chmod for more detail on how that command works	03:41
bazhang	Dark-Magician: okay, you lost the panels?	03:41
theremper	I don't know each part is different built it from trash	03:42
Zoo	Mr_Sonoma: Ok	03:42
Dark-Magician	just the title bar with like close window ect	03:42
chaosrl	does anyone know if virtualbox and vmware-player read the same .vmdk files?	03:42
bazhang	chaosrl: as in interoperable?	03:42
chaosrl	yeah	03:42
theremper	runs ubuntu overall great just a flash problem	03:42
bazhang	theremper: five years plus?	03:42
bazhang	chaosrl: then no	03:43
chaosrl	bazhang, ok, thanks	03:43
theremper	the motherboard and processor yes the video card 4 years the hd 2 years the ram 1 year	03:43
turdy	hi	03:43
Phophos	crimsun: Am doing ... My interwebs is being inexplicably slow	03:43
turdy	just installed ubuntu via live cd... Now when I boot it, no display shows up (worked when using livecd)	03:44
chaosrl	then, i have another general question: can anyone help with installing and configuring vmware-(player/server)? i've tried installing both multiple times, with no luck	03:44
bazhang	theremper: the internet is getting ever more demanding in video terms--upgrading the ram at least should help though the video card might also be a suspect	03:44
turdy	any tips on what is going on?	03:44
chaosrl	!virtualbox	03:44
ubotu	VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox	03:44
theremper	ok thanks	03:44
bazhang	chaosrl: go to #vbox for virtual box, not sure about vmware though they do have forums	03:44
upintilldawn	well updating this to 7.10 fixed the wireless	03:45
chaosrl	my vmware installations always go smoothly until i try to start the program, then i just get the "Starting VMware" in my task bar and then it dissappears	03:45
upintilldawn	but still can not get java to load on any web sites	03:45
magicrobotmonkey	hey bazhanf, do you knoiw if this is supposed to work for the new nano: http://www.niceguyuk.ukshells.co.uk/2007/09/making-new-ipods-work-with-linux.php	03:45
chaosrl	bazhang: i'll try #vbox, thanks	03:45
turdy	anyone with any ideas?	03:45
theneb	Hi all, I've got a few issues with my radeon Xpress 200m. Trying to get fglrx to work but now glxgears crashes X	03:46
bazhang	magicrobotmonkey: you have to do that every time you add music though--bit of a headache imo	03:46
NixPanther	!wait	03:46
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about wait - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:46
Dr_willis	Heh - i have a x200m. it aint hardly got enough power to run glxgears..	03:46
Dr_willis	:)	03:46
jewbilee	!patience	03:47
ubotu	The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	03:47
bazhang	upintilldawn: install ubuntu-restricted-extras	03:47
theneb	Dr_willis: ever got anything 3d to work with it?	03:47
Dr_willis	I just used the 'restricted-manager' tool to install the fglrs drivers.	03:47
upintilldawn	did that	03:47
Dr_willis	theneb, it can do some things.. cant do compiz.	03:47
NixPanther	thats the one! THanks Jewbilee	03:47
upintilldawn	still not working	03:47
theneb	Dr_willis: mine does compiz	03:47
jewbilee	;)	03:47
theneb	well .. did	03:47
bazhang	turdy: you need to give more info	03:47
upintilldawn	may just wait and try again after i get the new cds in a few weeks	03:47
nickrud	lol, theneb you installed the ati drivers, and I bet you used the ati installer	03:47
Dr_willis	theneb, i dident even try installing the xgl X thing for compiz.. dident want to mess with it.	03:47
bazhang	upintilldawn: you just need to install the codecs	03:48
Dr_willis	I even removed compiz :)	03:48
theneb	nickrud: had been using the ubuntu, of which didn't load up 3d. Now used envy and things are worse :S	03:48
tyler2435	http://danny.oz.au/danny/humour/green-eggs-linux.html	03:48
* Dr_willis marks one up for Envy!		03:48
Dr_willis	:)	03:48
bazhang	upintilldawn: the flash sites are waiting for the fix from adobe	03:48
nickrud	theneb, oh, the envy story. The factoid used to say than anyone who used envy would envy those who didn't	03:48
upintilldawn	i am wanting java	03:49
upintilldawn	not flash	03:49
upintilldawn	can care less for flash lol	03:49
bazhang	upintilldawn: what is the exact error	03:49
theneb	nickrud: so it's all a false front. Envy doesn't work that well as promised?	03:49
jewbilee	is there an expected time for flashplugin-nonfree to be working again?	03:50
magicrobotmonkey	bazhang, yea i just want to temporarily unbreak my wifes new ipod...	03:50
upintilldawn	well when i head to a web site that uses java all i see is a gray box where the java should be	03:50
bazhang	magicrobotmonkey: lots of unbreaking in the future haha	03:50
nickrud	theneb, you could probably recover by reinstalling libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri and ligl1-mesa-glx and xorg-driver-fglrx and the restricted modules	03:50
magicrobotmonkey	heh	03:50
bazhang	upintilldawn: like what exactly?	03:51
nickrud	theneb, for many it does, for many it doesn't	03:51
Dr_willis	upintilldawn, install the ubuntu-restricted-extras that should grab java and a lot of other packages you proberly want.	03:51
bazhang	upintilldawn: just saying it doesnt work wont get you much help here--need to give more precise info see !doesntwork	03:51
nickrud	theneb, then if you really want the latest ati, go to http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide	03:52
amerio	can any1 help me concerning alsa drivers pleaaaaase?	03:52
upintilldawn	ok i hav opened the synaptic package manager	03:52
upintilldawn	and that rpogram is check and installed	03:52
nickrud	theneb, at least with that, you can recover fairly gracefully	03:52
Dark-Magician	note to self, never let sister near computers again...	03:52
upintilldawn	bazhang when i got to a site like runescape	03:52
theneb	reinstall syntax with apt?	03:53
bazhang	Dark-Magician: it all fixed? you can lock the screen you know	03:53
upintilldawn	witch uses java for the game it will not load. the window just urns grey	03:53
nickrud	theneb, sudo aptitude reinstall libgl1-mesa libgl1-mesa-dri ligl1-mesa-glx xorg-driver-fglrx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) . No promises, however ;)	03:53
Dark-Magician	no its still not fixed and f11 didnt fix it	03:53
bazhang	upintilldawn: web address?	03:53
upintilldawn	www.runescape.com	03:54
Dark-Magician	i get file and the buttons and all just the title saying whats the program and close window buttons are gone	03:54
bazhang	Dark-Magician: you want to readd the top panel and the icons on it?	03:54
upintilldawn	man i am too new to irc.. can not find out how to soa privete send lol	03:54
Dark-Magician	sounds right..	03:54
Dark-Magician	depending on the version a /query nickhere works	03:55
nickrud	Dark-Magician, try alt-f2 metacity --replace	03:55
bazhang	upintilldawn: what am I looking for on that site?	03:55
upintilldawn	head to any game try to go to a game world	03:56
nickrud	Dark-Magician, don't blame your sister for this one	03:56
bazhang	upintilldawn: I need to be a member?	03:56
reimorster	hi, merry xmas for everybody	03:56
upintilldawn	not to just load the game window	03:56
NixPanther	bah humbug	03:56
Dark-Magician	nickrud: tysvm	03:56
upintilldawn	that is how i am testing my java	03:56
bazhang	load game window? where is that upintilldawn?	03:57
Dark-Magician	no you dont need to be a member to load the game window	03:57
Dark-Magician	just to log into the game fully	03:57
upintilldawn	ok give me a min	03:57
bazhang	what is the link for that?	03:57
Dark-Magician	just hit the buttons to play, random world, and low quality	03:57
Dark-Magician	off the RS main page	03:57
upintilldawn	click play runescape	03:57
upintilldawn	then i say low detail	03:58
Dr_willis	Testing out RUnescape now..	03:58
Dark-Magician	its a good java test, and again tyvm	03:58
upintilldawn	just click choose best world	03:58
Dr_willis	well it seems to be working.. its updating somthing. playing some muzak	03:58
upintilldawn	darn	03:58
upintilldawn	then why is it not working here	03:58
upintilldawn	grr	03:59
upintilldawn	i talled the icetea java when it asked for it	03:59
bazhang	wow it is slow loading	03:59
upintilldawn	have that program group installed	03:59
upintilldawn	lol	04:00
upintilldawn	never said it was fats	04:00
upintilldawn	fast	04:00
Jack_Sparrow	!enter > upintilldawn	04:00
Dr_willis	Well i can say that Runescape seems to be working for me fine - under Kubuntu	04:00
upintilldawn	i am using ubuntu 7.10	04:01
upintilldawn	maybe will just wipe and reinstall	04:01
upintilldawn	thinking something may ed rightnot have install	04:01
Jack_Sparrow	!enter > upintilldawn	04:01
upintilldawn	grr	04:01
Jack_Sparrow	upintilldawn: Then stop	04:01
nickrud	upintilldawn, did you install sun-java6-plugin ?	04:01
upintilldawn	hate the laptop mouse	04:01
gazuk	hello everyone	04:01
bazhang	runescrape is ok here, just really slow loading upintilldawn	04:01
Dr_willis	upintilldawn, you did instal the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package to get java and other things?	04:02
upintilldawn	sun-java6-plugin was installed once	04:02
upintilldawn	yes dr willis i have	04:02
bazhang	do you have java disabled in firefox? upintilldawn	04:03
upintilldawn	no first thing i checked	04:03
Dr_willis	Well it looks like an ok game.. but the Huge banner at at the top saying "Are you a Good Kisser" is goingto get me in trouble with the wife. :)	04:03
nickrud	upintilldawn, you running the 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu	04:03
upintilldawn	64 bit	04:03
bazhang	upintilldawn: was firefox running when you installed java? upintilldawn	04:03
nickrud	tada!!	04:03
upintilldawn	no	04:03
bazhang	Dr_willis: haha	04:03
Jack_Sparrow	nickrud: Ding, ding, ding	04:03
IdleOne	I setup a second user couple months back on my system but I dont remember the pass how do I change it or find out what it is?	04:04
Dr_willis	i really have to wonder about some of the thought going into these banner ads	04:04
gazuk	I got a question i have a dual boot ubuntu and windows reinstalled windows so i reinstalled grub but now i cannot access windows it is a different disk i use windows for gaming	04:04
bazhang	64 bit java is the problem then upintilldawn?	04:04
nickrud	upintilldawn, 64bit doesn't have a working java plugin	04:04
bazhang	gazuk: want a grub factoid?	04:04
upintilldawn	guess i will have to use the 32 bit on a 64 bit computer then	04:04
IdleOne	!grub \| gazuk	04:05
ubotu	gazuk: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	04:05
bazhang	happy to help upintilldawn	04:05
Phophos	upintilldawn: You can get Firefox32. There's a very good install script on the official Ubuntu forums. This comes with awesome plugins for Java and Flash and something I forget.	04:05
upintilldawn	know of any groups in the stockton cali area lol	04:05
the_darkside_986	!openssl	04:05
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about openssl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:05
nickrud	upintilldawn, that's what I was running it in, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174435 has a howto	04:06
_alf_	!flash	04:06
ubotu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	04:06
ubotu	The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.	04:06
upintilldawn	phophos i will look into it after i reinstall this to wipe out any mess ups	04:06
the_darkside_986	does anyone know where the source INCLUDE folder for openssl is in Ubuntu? i have no idea where to find it	04:06
Phophos	(Y) @ upintilldawn	04:06
Ttech	Where do I find whre custom themes are in ubuntu?	04:06
bigmoe	1st i have to say that gusty is pretty cool man..	04:06
bazhang	Ttech: themes for what?	04:07
Ttech	like display themes?	04:07
upintilldawn	because i also think i installed something wrong	04:07
the_darkside_986	Preferences > Appearance for themes	04:07
Ttech	bazhang, GTK	04:07
bazhang	Ttech: gnome-look.org	04:07
the_darkside_986	under *System i mean	04:07
cua0	anyone know what the package name for the ident daemon is?	04:07
bazhang	identd?	04:07
Phophos	Thanks for everyone's help!	04:07
Ttech	No! no no... :P I mean I need to find where they are i nthe my user forlder, because I need to restore them to my new system	04:07
upintilldawn	ok brb going to check this site out	04:08
nushto	does anyone know if there's a way to set per-access-point wireless settings?	04:08
Ttech	bazhang, don't get me started on gnome-look.org! :P	04:08
tarelerulz	What is good program for making charts ? something that has columns and you can name the columns and you could input number and it would calculate?	04:08
nushto	like if associating with AP x, make static ip, if not, use dhcp?	04:08
amerio	anybody can help me with alsa driver?	04:08
bigmoe	i just wanted to ask if anyone know how to put the cpu temperature thingy and ram percentage icon on toolbar	04:08
fsanlu	MERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! and if u dont celebrate christmas.. well HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY SEASON BECAUSE WE ALL DESERVE IT! hugs for everyone.	04:08
Ttech	fsanlu, nicely said	04:08
bazhang	caps fsanlu haha	04:08
cua0	fsanlu: same to you :)	04:09
Ttech	Anyone? :(	04:09
fsanlu	hahaha :] its such a wonderful time!	04:09
bazhang	Ttech: where did you store them? I keep mine in documents...	04:09
Jack_Sparrow	!find msgfmt	04:09
ubotu	File msgfmt found in gettext, libgettext-ruby-util, xviewg-dev	04:09
nushto	ok does anyone know what I should google to get per-access point network settings? this was trivial in gentoo, but I can't seem to find anything like it for ubuntu	04:10
the_darkside_986	i am trying to do #include <openssl/somefile.h> but i can't figure out where openssl folder is so i can put it in my INCLUDE path. any ideas?	04:10
bazhang	nushto: the settings for AP? as in the starbucks, home, etc?	04:10
Ttech	bazhang, thats what I'm asking. Here do themes go when you save them?	04:11
nushto	bazhang: yes, I want static IP at home, and DHCP elsewhere	04:11
amerio	bazhang: have any idea about alsa?	04:11
bazhang	amerio: want a factoid?	04:11
kenan	hi, how come whenever i add a launcher to simdock, when i log out and log back in, the launchers dont show anymore? the dock loads up but it shows that i have no launchers, how do i fix this?	04:11
amerio	bazhang: my soundcard isnt detected	04:12
Jack_Sparrow	!find glib	04:12
ubotu	Found: libarts1-mpeglib, libavahi-glib-dev, libavahi-glib1, libdbus-glib-1-2, libdbus-glib-1-dev (and 55 others)	04:12
nushto	the_darkside_986: have you tried: locate somefile.h \| grep -i openssl	04:12
bazhang	nushto: so you want roaming and fixed at the same time? how was that done in gentoo?	04:12
Ttech	bazhang, I found it. ITs in .themes.	04:12
Ttech	:/	04:12
the_darkside_986	@nushto what directory do i run that command from? home?	04:12
bazhang	Ttech: aha :}	04:12
nushto	doesn't matter	04:12
nushto	any dir	04:12
the_darkside_986	oh ok thanks	04:13
bazhang	amerio: what does lspci say about that card (tell me dont paste here)	04:13
upintilldawn	nickrud ty for the link trying to install it now going to see how it works	04:13
bazhang	:{	04:13
imyousuf	Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam	04:13
the_darkside_986	oh wait i didn't have ssldev installed, oops. it seems to work now. thanks everyone	04:13
amerio	bazhang: it only shows the on board card , but the card i wanna use isnt showing	04:14
imyousuf	similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint	04:14
nushto	bazhang: basically once you specify some specific access point in the wireless file, you can just prefix any command with essid_ (essid_config, essid_route, etc)	04:14
bazhang	nushto: ah. the cli command?	04:15
alphonse	deuce	04:15
nushto	bazhang: in the /etc/wireless file, yes,	04:15
nushto	bazhang: for example, from the gentoo docs: config_ESSID1=( "192.168.0.3/24 brd 192.168.0.255" )	04:16
kriel	Hello. Is there any way I can get a list of software that I've installed on this computer? I'm about to do a fresh install (for example purposes, mostly) but I want to have a log somewhere of what software I've added after the initial install.	04:16
kriel	Oh, and I'm using 7.10	04:17
bazhang	http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-485280.html nushto like this?	04:17
bazhang	dpkg -l kriel	04:17
nickrud	!clone \| kriel	04:17
kriel	bazhang: Thanks!	04:17
ubotu	kriel: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate	04:17
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nushto	bazhang: hm, no because that's just setting wireless settings, not IP settings	04:18
bazhang	alphonse this is a support channel	04:18
imyousuf	Hi, my laptop has a USB WebCam built it which uses V4L2 driver. Ekiga can detect and use the webcam, but Adobe Flash (YoutTube Quick Capture) can not detect the webcam. Similarly if I do gqcam -v /dev/video0 it also can not capture from the webcam, can someone give me any hint. Also the Ubuntu's MM System Selector can also detect it. I would really like to use it in conjunction with YouTube or Java Media Framework (JMF); please help	04:18
nushto	bazhang: oh I didn't realize that network manager would ... ignore those settings anyways	04:18
nushto	I kind of assumed they would try to integrate those together	04:19
Romes	merry christmas ladies and gentlemen :)	04:19
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RequinB4	merry christmas Romes	04:20
bazhang	nushto: network-manager is a pita imo	04:20
nushto	bazhang: agreed	04:20
bazhang	amerio: what does aplay -l say (tell me dont paste here)	04:20
nushto	I read this thing a while back how NM is supposed to be the greatest thing ever, I find it always gets in my way though	04:20
bazhang	nushto: yup, the cli is way better and faster too :}	04:21
nickrud	for a wireless illiterate like me, nm-applet was a savior	04:21
bazhang	nickrud: hard to believe haha	04:21
amerio	bazhang : card0 intel and card0 intel	04:21
nickrud	bazhang, my skills are narrow and shallow :)	04:22
bazhang	amerio: what about lspci -v (again dont paste just tell me)	04:22
jinxed-	hey	04:22
nushto	sup	04: