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ivan_que pedo raza!00:03
LaoziSailorwhere do I place screencaps? in http://imgur.com ??00:05
`{^v^}in the upper right corner is a green button that says new post00:08
`{^v^}thats left  >_<00:09
* `{^v^} still has trouble with differentiating left from right00:09
jwintermis it just me or is the ubuntu software center flaky af in 16.04?00:11
jwintermlike it will just show loading circle forever sometimes00:11
jwintermor it will load applications but not show their pictures or names or descriptions00:11
jwintermfor like 5 minutes00:12
jwintermthen they come up00:12
`{^v^}use synaptic?00:12
jwintermI can just use apt, but it's just weird00:13
Caluser2000LaoziSailor: it's quite easy http://imgur.com/upload00:13
jwintermsuper, super slow, sometimes never loading00:13
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tomreynjwinterm: and apt-get update is quick?00:13
jwintermyes00:13
`{^v^}in my experience it's always been like that jwinterm00:13
`{^v^}having an SSD helps00:13
jwintermI've never experienced this level of flaky slowness/non-loading in previous versions00:14
jwintermI have / mounted on ssd00:14
jwintermhome is on a spinny disk00:14
tomreyni never use software center, so can't really comment on whether this is unusual / unexpected00:15
tomreyn5 minutes definitely sounds wrong00:15
jwintermwas just checking what games and graphics apps are listed by default nowadays00:15
Caluser2000Synaptic might be a better option.00:16
jwintermteeworlds and pingus still hanging in there00:17
LaoziSailorCaluser2000: thanks, I'll get an account :)00:17
Caluser2000account?00:18
Caluser2000sudo apt-get install synaptic00:19
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`{^v^}LaoziSailor, you dont need an account for imagur, just click new post00:23
ubuntu-mateHello. need help in rebuilding grub. I do:00:26
ubuntu-matesudo mount / dev / sda7 / mnt00:26
ubuntu-matesudo mount --bind / dev / mnt / dev00:26
ubuntu-matesudo mount --bind / proc / mnt / proc00:26
ubuntu-matesudo mount --bind / sys / mnt / sys00:26
ubuntu-matesudo chroot /mnt00:26
ubuntu-mategrub-install /dev/sda00:26
tomreynyour spacing is wrong00:27
tomreynnot / dev / sda7 / mnt00:27
tomreynbut /dev/sda7 /mnt00:28
ubuntu-matebut after the update-grub is only windows00:28
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ubuntu-mateyes. sorry00:28
ubuntu-matethere are no gaps00:28
ubuntu-matewhat am I doing wrong?00:29
transhuman_could someone please do me a favor and execute the following command sudo ip addr  ---and tell me if it shows a primary and secondary eth0 address?00:29
tomreynwhat makes you think you're doing something wrong?00:29
ubuntu-matebecause it does not boot ubuntu00:30
ubuntu-mateand OS list contains only windows00:31
tomreynthe OS list the bios generates? or the one grub shows? how far do you get during the boot process?00:32
tomreyntranshuman_:  only one ipv4 per nic for me00:33
jwintermtranshuman_: no need to use sudo here00:33
tomreyntranshuman_: as expected, since i di not configure multiple00:33
Bashing-omtranshuman_: Maybe not much help, My output : http://termbin.com/ruua - where eth1 is presently the active interface ( 14.04 upstart ) .00:33
transhuman_so let me clarify the command does not show a primary and secondary  ip addr ?00:33
ubuntu-mateIt generates by grub00:34
jwintermI see loopback, eth, and wifi00:34
jwinterm1, 2, 300:34
jwintermusing wifi00:34
transhuman_ok cause my server is showing a primary and secondary ip address even though a secondary isnt in any of the config files i find00:35
transhuman_every document i find says to look in /etc/sysctrl  which doesnt apply to ubuntu00:35
jwintermI see ipv4 and ipv6, but no primary and secondary00:36
transhuman_i used the ip command to delete it but it comes back on reboot00:36
transhuman_bb later00:37
tomreynwhats the network it belongs to (if you dont want to disclose the unexpected ipv4 address)?00:37
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randall_Hey guys remember me01:32
randall_After 5 years of Bans I am back!!!!01:32
Caluser2000No sorry.01:33
`{^v^}lol01:37
bitcycleplot twist, randall is banned again for being too enthusiastic.01:38
Caluser2000Was he famous or something?01:38
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bitcycleCaluser2000: no idea.  just thought it was funny, albeit off-topic.01:40
helpwithbbHi, I am using Ubuntu Gnome 16.10, which I dual-boot with Windows 10. After booting into windows today, I restarted and then went back into ubuntu.  I saw the ubuntu gnome symbol as usual, but after that it dropped to a command line called "busybox." It has done the same thing after multiple reboots. What is causing this problem and how can I fix i02:20
helpwithbbt?02:20
helpwithbbIs anyone online currently?02:21
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lordcirth_helpsterTee, yes02:23
allizomshe's gone02:23
lordcirth_oops02:23
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kLOsAnyone can tell me how i can tell the source of available upgrade packages on the command line02:43
kLOse.g. The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic mysql-server-5.702:43
kLOs  mysql-server-core-5.702:43
kLOsi would like to know from which repository these are coming02:44
kLOsespecially the mysql02:44
lordcirth_kLOs, apt show mysql-server-core-5.702:45
kLOsgreat thanks lordcirth_ !02:46
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jkljklhello?03:09
lordcirth_jkljkl, hi03:09
DJRWolf1I just installed 16.04 with a A10-6800k system, I have two external HDD's plugged in, I can see the 3 TB drive but not the 5 TB drive03:16
jkljkltry unplugging it and plugging it back in.  it works for the internet03:17
DJRWolf1already did that03:17
jkljklrun dmesg03:18
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tmusI'm intermittently seeing "Buffer I/O/ error on device nvme0n1p2, logical block xxxxx" in dmesg, followed up by system meltdown (no access to storage meaning only my running shells work). Anyone else seeing this? It's a Samsung NVMe storage device in a Skylake thinkpad03:22
DJRWolf1jkljkl http://pastebin.com/n8gMVrp603:26
lordcirth_tmus, install smartmontools and check smartctl03:28
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Guest62549I vaguely remember using mIRC back in college.03:29
Guest62549This is interesting.03:29
Guest62549What do we do here in IRC chat?03:30
lordcirth_Guest62549, well, #ubuntu channel in particular is the Ubuntu support channel.03:30
FlannelGuest62549: This is a technical support channel for Ubuntu.  If you want a social chatroom, join #ubuntu-offtopic03:30
RonWhoCaresI am getting the error when trying to burn a DVD:  "SCSI error on write(),16) [4 09 01] Drive error. Tracking serve failure."  Any ideas03:30
`{^v^}the burner is dead03:30
`{^v^}time to get a new one03:31
DJRWolf1DVD burners are dirt cheep these days03:31
Guest62549Thanks for your recommendations. What about if I want to contribute to ubuntu dev?03:31
Flannel!contribute | Guest6254903:32
ubottuGuest62549: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu03:32
Guest62549Thanks so much! :)03:32
FlannelGuest62549: That page (the second one) has a lot of information on how to get into one of the variety of ways03:32
Guest62549!contribute03:32
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu03:32
FlannelGuest62549: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu  <-- that webpage03:33
Guest62549this is kinda fun - IRC... what other channels are good? (sorry I know this is offtopic from ubuntu help)03:36
tmuslordcirth_, anything to check in particular?03:36
tmusbrand new thinkpad and works well after poweroff/poweron03:37
GuestieAnyone recommend any antivirus/malware software for Ubuntu Desktop TLS 16.04? Do I really need antivirus/malware for my machine?03:37
Caluser2000Guest62549: #oldx86hardware  #linux  #classiccmp  ##windows03:38
LaoziSailorand so my voyage continues..., I was at Ubuntu Studio 8 and wanted to install Wine..., it didn't work and the upgrade path was tortuous so I installed both Studio 16 LTS  and Ubuntu 16 LTS only to find out that my laptop would get stuck at 640x480.03:38
LaoziSailorChange the sails on my boat and go back to what google searches hinted at the best to be Ubuntu 10 LTS to support a version of Wine AND still have the HARD specifications of the different screen resolutions03:38
LaoziSailorhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23367736/03:38
Guest62549thanks #Caluser200003:39
RonWhoCaresI just mail ordered a DVD03:40
RonWhoCaresI have one other question: Can Ubuntu act as an answering machine with outgoing audio only?03:40
Caluser2000yw Guest6254903:40
LaoziSailorSo still no wine :( I just finished downloading "ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-i386.iso" and will report back tomorrow after I try that, I need some REAL wine now to get some sleep LOL03:43
Caluser2000LaoziSailor: why such an old version?03:44
`{^v^}RonWhoCares,  yes03:45
LaoziSailorCaluser2000: the latest won't allow screen resolution to be set03:45
siva_machinaLaoziSailor, hen what about 14.04/03:46
RonWhoCares`{^v^} what software?03:46
siva_machina?03:46
LaoziSailorCaluser2000: https://askubuntu.com/questions/839343/copy-the-files-that-make-a-good-environment-to-a-nas AND https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234066503:47
xv3g4sa03:47
`{^v^}siva_machina, LaoziSailor will experience that on 14.04 as well03:47
LaoziSailor<`{^v^}>: thank you03:48
`{^v^}LaoziSailor, you will need a custom static xorg.conf03:49
_stump_junkman_any ideas of a way that installing ubuntu-mate-deskop would disable a wireless usb mouse without it showing up again after plugging it back in?03:49
_stump_junkman_the usb receiver shows up under lsusb, but not getting why it's not working on the desktop03:51
siva_machina_stump_junkman_,  Is it bluetooth or does it require a dongle to be in your computer/03:51
siva_machinanevermind03:51
siva_machinayou already answered03:51
lofitapefolkwhen dragging a ubuntu window to expand (ie this irc window) the grab-point is always on 1 pixel... it is super hard to pull a window bigger or smaller because I have to get my mouse pointer exactly on that 1px spot. Is there a fix for this? 1st world problems*03:52
BarnabasDKlofitapefolk, try another skin - depending on your desktop manager (I assume unity) I think this lies within03:54
`{^v^}can anybody help me and Laozi with setting up xorg.conf? (our screens native res isnt showing up in xrandr or arandr03:55
lofitapefolkBarnabasDK thanks for that info. I'll try something different.03:56
siva_machina`{^v^}, if no one answers...maybe try #xorg04:03
LaoziSailorCaluser2000: with 10 there are some really interesting "features" for screen real estate -> http://imgur.com/a/qg13H <- I know it's a bit confusing but the laptop is at "real" space  and the resolution on realVNC -> http://imgur.com/a/ly9mn04:05
Caluser2000LaoziSailor: nice04:07
Caluser2000I'm using an even older distro for day to day stuff.04:08
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LaoziSailorCaluser2000: the actual laptop display was captured with my iPhone and only after did I realize why I wasn't seeing the whole screen :)04:14
BarnabasDK`{^v^} maybe your handle has something to do with your lack of answers - hard to auto complete04:15
`{^v^}its just 2 buttons  >_<04:16
`{^v^}and one is on top of the other04:16
BarnabasDK<`{^v^}> pls output off : lspci | grep VGA && glxinfo | grep vendor && glxinfo | grep direct04:16
`{^v^}http://paste.ubuntu.com/23367856/ BarnabasDK04:17
BarnabasDK<`{^v^}> I know oss drivers are preferable but have you tried the closed source ?04:19
`{^v^}in software updater -> additional drivers -> it says im using the proprietary driver  BarnabasDK04:21
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LaoziSailorBarnabasDK: I jumped on the traincar as well -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23367860/04:21
BarnabasDKLaoziSailor, if you have the same hw as <`{^v^}> then probably same fix - otherwise you need to install mesa-utils04:22
BarnabasDKas the output states04:23
`{^v^}fix? what fix? im confused04:23
BarnabasDK<`{^v^}> do you have same hw04:23
`{^v^}no04:23
BarnabasDKok two different incidents then - you said to help you and LaoziSailor - you first then04:24
BarnabasDKbut LaoziSailor still needs mesa-utils04:24
`{^v^}i have AMD Radeon Mobility HD4250 (and according to software updater im using the proprietary driver)04:24
BarnabasDK<`{^v^}> have you tried the oss one then?04:25
`{^v^}yes04:25
BarnabasDKand you are sure the monitor has the native res you expect?04:25
BarnabasDKor - what is the name and make of the montior04:26
`{^v^}it happens on all of my external LCD screens. all of my screens have a native res of 1280x1024 and dont send EDID04:27
Guy1524hey guys, w/ intel graphics, how do I enable DRI3, and how do I make sure it is enabled once I enable it?04:30
Guy1524I heard vulkan applications only work w/ DRI304:30
Guy1524so I guess ill try that out04:30
BarnabasDKx uses edid to find the correct modeset for your monitor - can you turn it on ? or is it not supported04:31
`{^v^}cant. cheap GEMstar GM-170b  <-- current LCD04:32
BarnabasDKso if you have a current xorg.conf, could you ubuntu pastebin that too04:36
BarnabasDKbtw I think xorg.conf is no longer supported by ubuntu, someone correct me if I am wrong04:37
BarnabasDKi think it may be deleted upon boot today04:37
Guy1524nvm04:39
`{^v^}okay im not finding an xorg.conf file04:42
BarnabasDKin /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists04:42
BarnabasDKjust note I think this will be nuked upon reboot04:42
schonehello04:42
`{^v^}BarnabasDK,  nope no xorg.conf04:43
`{^v^}so yeah...04:43
BarnabasDKas it should be04:43
BarnabasDKit is legacy for ubuntu04:43
schonemight be a newbie question but on ubuntu 16.04 server…. why does adding dns-nameservers to my /etc/network/interfaces file doesnt change anything in resolv.conf? i get my dns-search domains but not nameservers… its stuck on 127.0.0.1....04:43
BarnabasDKor for X / Wayland04:43
schonedoes not havinga  gateway for my particular interface makes a diff?04:44
BarnabasDKI am afraid I do not have any hw with a ATI type gpu so I cannot validate anything I suggest here - but see to it you load the closed source driver per this https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary04:48
BarnabasDKand combine it with a monitor section in xorg.conf, that includes the modeset you want04:48
BarnabasDKYou could then probably do a sudo pkill X, and force the ubuntu system to reload the xorg.conf you wrote04:48
BarnabasDKif it survives a real reboot I do not know04:49
BarnabasDKbasically if anyone with an ATI gpu type is here please fill in, I use nvidia / intel04:49
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BarnabasDKthat does not change the fact that ubuntu has discontinued the xorg.conf way of doing xorg ..04:50
BarnabasDKfor better and worse - good for new hw and bad for the old stuff04:52
BarnabasDKLaoziSailor, your hw seems to utilize a via vga adaptor, so you need to ensure you have the correct drivers installed and then recheck per my command line05:01
GuestieI had my computer freeze up on me when I was using my web browser. I have an expensive gaming computer, so I know it's not because I have crappy hardware. How can I read the system logs to see why it was freezing up on me?05:02
GuestieWhat things do I look for in the system log?05:02
BarnabasDKGuestie, overclocked?05:02
GuestieNo overclocking.05:03
BarnabasDKGuestie, then try memtest8605:03
BarnabasDKfirst of all05:03
GuestieIt's a custom build, so that's a layer of difficulty.05:03
BarnabasDKto ensure it is not a bad mem block05:03
GuestieBarnabasDK, how do I do that?05:04
GuestieI tried "memtest86" in terminal.05:04
BarnabasDKGuestie, on ubuntu it should be a boot option still if I recollect - correct me here if I am wrong05:04
BarnabasDKper grub05:05
Guestiehow do I install the grub boot loader?05:05
BarnabasDKif you are running ubuntu you should already use it05:05
BarnabasDKhave you tried booting your pc while keeping shift depressed05:05
GuestieBarnabasDK, aparently, it didn't isntall. I don't see it when I boot up.05:05
Guestielet me try that.05:06
GuestieCya, need to restart.05:06
BarnabasDKyeah05:06
GuestieBarnabasDK, I tried both lshift and rshift, and neither started grub.05:11
BarnabasDKyou need to keep them pressed through boot ?05:11
GuestieBarnabasDK, I did.05:11
BarnabasDKGuestie, will this help ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/668049/grub-menu-at-boot-time-holding-shift-not-working05:13
BarnabasDKand then a grub update of cause05:13
BarnabasDKthen reboot05:13
`{^v^}hmm... I downloaded AMD's Catalyst 13.1 driver and installed it but still my screen res is stuck at 1024x76805:14
Bashing-omGuestie: EFI system ? It Is then the escape key (spammed) grub looks for .. and there is no memtest for EFI by default intalled for a EFI system .05:15
BarnabasDKBashing-om, did no know that .. important info05:16
BarnabasDKhave no EFI stuff05:16
Bashing-omBarnabasDK: hey .. is a constantly changing target is ubuntu . ever evolving .05:17
Bashing-omGuest1952: Then as BarnabasDK adised, holding a shift key as soon as the bios screen clears should invoke the grub boot menu .05:18
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jaamihi, got myself slipped into a big trouble. help me with command to stop sync of date. i removed ntpdate but still it takes few secondsmfor ubuntu to set back the old date. used root05:18
jaamihow to stop sync and set my own date on my ubuntu05:19
LaoziSailorBarnabasDK: so the apt-get for mesa gives me a "is only available from another source" and it is also doing that for apt-get update, I lost the pastebin after I posted it here ealier.05:19
LaoziSailorI tried https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/mesa-utils/05:19
LaoziSailorand it takes me to the download for Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS05:19
LaoziSailorI'm calling it a night before my wife totally stops talking to me :D05:19
LaoziSailorThank for the help!05:19
`{^v^}night05:20
BarnabasDKold hw is a journey ..05:20
jaamitell me how to stop sync of date please05:21
jaamii am in big hurry05:21
GuestieBarnabasDK, now I'm just getting pissed off.05:21
`{^v^}jaami, right clck the clock -> properties -> date and time settings05:21
jaamithat does not work my dear05:22
jaamithat was first thing btw05:22
GuestieBarnabasDK, not at you, of course.05:22
jaamigive me your best trick05:23
BarnabasDKGuestie, well hw oss systems have a way of doing that05:23
jaamihate that sync thung05:23
BarnabasDKon the other hand no closed source oss system have an online support body like this one?05:24
jaamihello excuse me05:24
Bashing-omjaami: Have you reset the hardware clock ; NTP guide: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239089 .05:24
jaamii have to go to,washroom, plz tell me how to stop,sync05:24
jaamioh, reset hardware clock05:25
jaamiyes, bios battery is dead.05:25
BarnabasDKhardware clock in linux != software clock05:25
BarnabasDKas opposed to windows05:25
jaamiand at boot time i did not set correct time05:25
`{^v^}jaami, be patient. i dont have an answer for you but if some one does, they will chime in ( like Bashing-om just did)05:25
Electrom_Hey all, trying to install ubuntu from fedora, during the install when creating my partitions it is not letting me remove some fedora "mappings"05:26
BarnabasDKsometimes coming up with a qualified answer just takes a while ..05:26
Electrom_How can I just drop them?05:26
`{^v^}jaami,  did you click the link?05:27
Jordan_UGuestie: You can either boot memtest86+ via CSM (BIOS), use the userland memtester, or use the proprietary memtest which supports UEFI.05:27
jaamiBarnabasDK , thanks a lot for responding. really , isnt there anyway to set date time against the bios?05:27
Bashing-omElectrom_: Is not Fedora LVM ? may have to learn logical volume management .05:27
`{^v^}Electrom_, have you tried using gparted?05:27
jaamioh ok05:28
Electrom_`{^v^} Bashing-om Been awhile since I have used gparted. I think it is fedora LVM05:28
Electrom_I just want to wipe the disks05:28
BarnabasDKjaami, i think hwclock cmd can?05:28
Electrom_But the installer for ubuntu isn't allowing me to do so05:28
BarnabasDKas superuser though05:28
Bashing-omElectrom_: Out of my depth to deal with LVM . But I do not think GParted is the right tool in this situation .05:29
BarnabasDKwhipe disk is best done with dd05:30
BarnabasDKbut be carefull05:30
Electrom_So there is no way to just drop partitions in the installer?05:30
Jordan_UElectrom_: There is normally an option to wipe the disk and install. Can you provide a screenshot of the error message you're seeing?05:30
BarnabasDKso05:31
Electrom_Jordan_U: No error message, it just says the drives are unknown and will not let remove the fedora LVMs05:31
BarnabasDKsudo dd if=/dev/randrom of=/dev/<whatyouwanttonuke> bs=819605:31
BarnabasDKwill take a while05:31
BarnabasDKbut will whipe the disk completely05:32
BarnabasDKtake care to name the correct devices05:32
BarnabasDKno safety net here05:32
LaoziSailorg'nite ya'll fair winds !05:32
Electrom_"In use by LVM volume group fedora"05:32
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GuestieI am using my phone. I'm now in the Grub loader, but I don't see memtest86 option.05:42
GuestieDo I use Ubuntu recovery or upstart mode?05:42
Bashing-omGuestie: What do you see in the sub menu "advanced " ?05:43
GuestieCan you PM me? I can't scroll on this thing!05:44
BarnabasDKand if started xmem86 will take quite a while to finish ..05:44
BarnabasDKjust a hint05:44
BarnabasDKxfree86 is not a remedy to all things hw malfunction either, but it will give you more to go on05:46
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FireStrikerHey guys need a little bit of help, which irc chat is the best to chill out in if I need help, ask questions, and just chat about stuff related to ubuntu like sofwate support and what not.06:28
FireStrikerI am new to Linux btw06:29
Electrom_this one should work fine06:30
FireStrikerOk06:31
Bashing-omFireStriker: There is also the #ubuntu-offtopic channel .06:32
FireStrikerI can't join it for some reason06:32
ducasse!register | FireStriker06:33
ubottuFireStriker: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode06:33
FireStrikerI am wanting to do a duel boot with win 7 ( know how to do it did it early) win7 needs 6-10 hours to search for updates should I install after the updates are installed or can I install it now?06:33
mwdmaybe microsoft can help you with windows questions..06:34
guivercFireStriker: either way will work;  just ensure you backup. unlikely anything will happen; but far better safe than sorry. also ensure you shutdown win7, and don't hibernate (which leaves files open etc)06:35
FireStrikerMicrosoft has helped me with the why is it taking forever to update06:35
FireStrikerOh I left out some thing lol06:36
FireStrikerShould I install lubuntu or wait for the updates to be done06:37
nlionhi06:38
nlionhow can i install .snap packages offline?06:39
guivercFireStriker: your choice.. either way gets the same result; so you decide.06:39
nlion?no idea?06:40
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guivercnlion: me no, others who could answer are probably busy.  be patient.06:41
nlionok06:44
varazirhi, i like to setup autoinstalltion of security patches each day, on Thursday all updates and reboot.06:44
varaziranyone that can point me to howto please06:45
pablouanyone know where to get help to networking problems?06:45
guivercvarazir: i'd put apt update|dist-upgrade on bash job (+x); and have cron run it.   man (manual pages) for info?06:46
varazirok06:46
FireStrikerOk doing the duel boot now06:47
SuperSeriousCatvarazir, security updates are installed daily automatic if you picked that option at install06:47
guivercvarazir: there are probably tons of other ways.. that's just my first thought.06:47
varazirSuperSeriousCat: ya i use to select that option. then i guess its the all other and reboot that i need to setup06:48
varazirguiverc: thanks ill look into that06:51
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FireStrikerDo I need to boot from the USB or can I boot the USB within windows06:54
ducasseFireStriker: you need to boot from it.06:56
guivercFireStriker: if you want to install into a partition or bare-metal (so it runs directly) you need to boot from BIOS or directly. if you want to install into a file inside a VM then you can boot from within windows only.06:56
FireStrikerOk thought so06:56
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ram555tes06:57
FireStrikerCan I srink partitions inside of gparted on the live cd06:57
guivercFireStriker: yes you can shrink partitions from gparted; reminder: ensure you backup.06:57
FireStrikerOk nothing is on the computer ATM06:58
ram555come on talk somethink06:58
guivercFireStriker: yes from a LIVE cd too.  some smaller live cd's may not include gparted (I think most have it; but in case they don't all); at worst you just install then run it.  most ubuntu i think come with gparted installed.06:59
FireStrikerI have a 148gb hard drive what's the best partition size for it?07:00
FireStrikerThinking 20gb07:00
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FireStrikerMy live cd has gparted07:02
guivercFireStriker: there is no best size; it'll depend upon your usage.  myself i'd have / & /home in different partitions; so you can re-install OS without loosing data; but if you install lots of apps; 20gb can be limiting (esp. if data there also)07:02
FireStrikerIk07:02
FireStrikerCan I set up a data partition that is shared between both os's07:03
xsmltxHi, anyone please have any clues for http://superuser.com/questions/1137973/gnome-terminal-doesnt-start-any-more-after-auto-login-to-x ? I appreciate...07:03
guivercas you've noted:  gparted will allow you to resize parts; buts its a pain to do so (being safe requires backups always before.. taking time)...  you'll know what you want to do, and best be able to pick sizes.07:03
guivercFireStriker: yes but you may have problems; do you mean w7 & ubuntu; or two gnu/linuxes; gnu/linux & bsd or what?07:04
FireStrikerWin 7 and lubuntu07:04
cyber-gumtes07:05
FireStrikerMight settle at 60gb that would be enough right07:05
cyber-gumi think that enough07:06
guivercyes you can. it'll have to be NTFS unless you have an enterprise windows that can support linux partitions; yes its possible, but i'd not recommend it; instead opting for a lubuntu /home; and a NTFS partition where you store common files.  this can be a problem with limited disk space though. you decide.07:06
guivercFireStriker: note: my thoughts are MY opinions. others may have different experiences.07:07
FireStrikerTrue07:08
`{^v^}you could also use FAT3207:08
`{^v^}but FAT32 has many limitations07:08
himanshub16I wanted to have some discussion on Unity. Is this the right channel?07:08
FireStrikerik07:08
ducassehimanshub16: no, try #ubuntu-offtopic07:09
cfhowletthimanshub16, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.  tech support questions here07:09
himanshub16Not tech support. I wanted to have discussion regarding Unity 8. Wanted to share some thoughts and know ubuntu developer's perspective on the same07:12
yotkaSorry for the repetition.. Is anybody around who could help me troubleshooting this wireless problem I have? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1566987/comments/12 It's been months now and it's driving me crazy..07:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1566987 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No internet connection through WLAN although connected to network" [Undecided,New]07:21
`{^v^}yotka, i saw that a lot with the wireless routers comcast provides its customers07:23
guivercyotka: reading the launchpad link.07:24
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himanshub16Hey, I wanted to know is Unity 8 stable enough for a switch?07:25
Guest33098hello07:25
cfhowletthimanshub16, "switch"?07:25
himanshub16sorry.. use it daily07:25
cfhowletthimanshub16, yes07:25
Guest33098hacker?07:25
cfhowlettGuest33098, no.  wrong channel.07:26
himanshub16I gave it a try, on a VM, felt really weird. Was it Unity's issue or due to VM07:27
Guest33098nothing07:27
cfhowletthimanshub16, could be your preferences and style07:27
auronandacehimanshub16: performance would be better on bare metal rather than a VM07:28
Guest33098Are you playing a virtual machine?07:28
Guest33098ok ok07:29
himanshub16Will Ubuntu continue to support the current variant of Unity as long as 16.04 is supported or is planning to make transition to Unity 8 by the launch of next LTS.07:30
FireStrikerCan't remember them what's the package for chrome and gparted07:30
FireStrikerAlso what software should I install07:30
Guest33098Where do you come from?07:30
auronandaceFireStriker: chromium-browser is in the repos, chrome is not07:30
FireStrikerYep07:31
himanshub16auronandace: download google-chrome from google's website and install the deb file.07:31
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Rarrikinshimanshub16: 16.04 will probably stay the same. One of the non-LTS versions might upgrade.07:31
auronandacehimanshub16: i know about that, i was informing FireStriker chrome is not in the repos07:31
FireStrikerChromium is the same as chrome right?07:32
RarrikinsFireStriker: No, it lacks the PDF plugin and Widevine. Maybe Flash as well.07:32
auronandaceFireStriker: chrome is based on chromium, chrome just has extra proprietry bits from google07:32
himanshub16FireStriker: No, Chromium is the base project, and chrome is some additions to it, say them Google's proprietary components, and Flash.07:32
FireStrikerSo no flash07:32
FireStrikerIs chrome better?07:33
guivercyotka: sorry i can't help ...07:33
himanshub16Rarrikins: Are there customisations available for Unity 8? It gives feel like a mobile platform, not a desktop.07:33
auronandaceFireStriker: depends on your definition of better, i like chromium because it is open source - to me at is better07:33
Rarrikinshimanshub16: I don't use Unity, so I'm unsure.07:34
guivercFireStriker: i prefer chromium myself.. there are some things that chrome is better with; but I trust chromium more.07:34
himanshub16Rarrikins: What do you use?07:34
FireStrikerIt feels nice07:34
yotkaguiverc: Thanks anyway!07:34
RarrikinsFireStriker: Widevine is also missing, so you won't have Netflix without Chrome.07:34
FireStrikerI would like to stick with chromium07:34
Rarrikinshimanshub16: Xubuntu07:34
FireStrikerOh that's a hit lol, can you install them as plugins?07:35
Guest33098Liunx Kail how do you feel?07:36
himanshub16FireStriker: No. If you are not much concerned about "open-source essence", go with Google Chrome. Google sponsors chromium to convert it to chrome.07:36
auronandaceGuest33098: Kali is not supported here07:36
RarrikinsFireStriker: I don't think so, but I'm not sure.07:36
himanshub16FireStriker: Chrome is superset of chromium. If you use Google Chrome, you support Chromium, upon which it is built. See the chrome://help, it acknowledges chromium project, even in Google Chrome.07:38
FireStrikerIt will do the trick07:39
FireStrikerI do have win7 as a duel boot07:39
auronandaceFireStriker: they fight a lot? or did you mean dual?07:39
himanshub16Unity 7 is based on GNOME, what will Unity 8 be based on?07:39
FireStrikerDual lol07:40
guiverchimanshub16: Unity uses GTK or the Gimp|Gnome toolkit... this is not the same as GNOME itself.07:40
himanshub16guiverc: Does Unity 8 uses GTK?07:41
FireStrikerIt's sudo get apt right07:43
auronandaceFireStriker: sudo apt-get install packagename07:43
guivercFireStriker:    "sudo apt-get [command]"  or "sudo apt [command]"  (apt has fewer options)07:43
FireStrikerThanks07:44
FireStrikerWhat's the package name for gparted07:45
FireStrikerAnd what should I install07:45
auronandaceFireStriker: you just said it07:45
guiverchimanshub16: i don't know enough to answer;  originally yes.07:45
FireStrikerOk07:45
auronandace!info gparted | FireStriker07:45
ubottuFireStriker: gparted (source: gparted): GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.25.0-1 (yakkety), package size 419 kB, installed size 1924 kB07:45
guivercFireStriker:   to install gparted "sudo apt install gparted"   (sudo apt install gparted would work too)07:47
auronandaceFireStriker: synaptic is available in the repos if you prefer a graphical package manager that is much more efficient and verbose than the ubuntu software center07:47
itay2_Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?07:48
Maimsteritay2_ Are you install on a system wth a nVidia card?07:49
FireStrikerI am alright doing the commands want to learn the code07:49
itay2_Maimster : yes07:49
Maimsteritay2_ Are you getting an error?07:50
itay2_Maimster: no, nothing happens at all when i press F6.07:51
Maimsteritay2_ I've installed onto nVidia systems and the installer just went through. What kind of motherboard?07:51
FireStrikerOk where do I move if I want to talk about games07:52
itay2_Maimster: I think it's gigabyte ga-z68x-ud3-b307:52
cfhowlettFireStriker, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic07:52
Maimsteritay2_ Are you trying to use Linux for games?07:52
auronandaceitay2_: doesn't the install media use nouveaux by default?07:53
Maimsteritay2_ I game on Linux also through Steam.07:54
itay2_Maimster: no but I need CUDA for deep learning07:54
Maimsteritay2_ Mining?07:54
`{^v^}AI and neural nets?07:54
itay2_auronandace: yeah, I don't have the thing to write when I press F6 on the spot, but nacc told me to disable the nouveau driver because it's causing problems, or something like that. I need to press F6 and to write something to disable it. But when i press F6 in the main menu of choosing whether to try ubuntu or to install it, nothing happens at all.07:55
itay2_when i press "help" it says I can press F6 for "configuration for special computers", when I press F6 nothing happens.07:56
FireStrikerHey guys how do you change the time format?07:57
auronandaceFireStriker: if you are in unity open the settings and there is a date and time section07:58
FireStrikerLubuntu no unity here (well I don't think there is)07:58
FatSpitfirehi guys :)07:59
cfhowlettFireStriker, rightclick on the lock?07:59
cfhowlettclock07:59
FireStrikerI have07:59
FireStrikerClock format: %R Tooltip Format: %A%x08:00
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Guest11094008:01
FireStrikerHow do I manage audio?08:14
RarrikinsFireStriker: There should be an indicator icon for that.08:14
cfhowlettFireStriker, IIRC lubuntu has a menu search app.  search it for audio or sound08:15
FireStrikerI see the icon but I can't get into the sound settings08:16
theyesmanright click08:16
xsmltxhttp://superuser.com/questions/1137973/gnome-terminal-doesnt-start-any-more-after-auto-login-to-x08:17
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itay2_Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to disable/set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?08:19
guivercyotka: have you tried manual routing; instead of letting dhcp do everything?08:19
FireStrikerFound it08:20
guivercyotka: (realize my response is out of nowhere; time passed as I was doing other things)08:20
EriC^^itay2_: try fn + f608:20
yotkaguiverc: You mean static IPs?08:21
guivercyeah guess so.  primarily I meant "route add default..." commands to route traffic...08:21
guivercyotka: i also assume you've checked obvious stuff; ie. IP address not conflicting with another machine; or if in busy environment; MAC address not used by another device (someone trying to steal your internet & sniffed your mac; pretending to be you etc)08:23
wdnaHey ... I have python project that has dependencies that needs to be compiled with GCC-4.7 ... I installed this version on my Ubuntu 16.10, now I actually have 3 of them 4.7,5,6 ... but default symlinks still link to version 6 ... there's any official way to change them?08:28
wdna(thinking about eselect style tool...)08:28
guivercyotka: when you have problems; can you ping (icmp echo) your router?   if yes; a quick dirty fix may be to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf with a version which contains "nameserver 8.8.8.8" (where 8.8.8.8 can be your dns etc)... just a DIRTY thought.08:29
guivercyotka: (note: i hate wireless; avoid it when possible so not the best person to offer suggestions anyway) regardless...   you noted @ 06-05 17:46 that there are possible busy-bandwidth clashes; are you in flats or somwehere busy & lots of folks using wireless; or near microwave oven/fridges etc?08:32
guivercyotka: my date/time is from your bugzilla bug report.08:33
guivercyotka: would it be more helpful if I put my thoughts in launchpad bug report? rather than here?  note: i do NOT have a fix; my thoughts are only work-arounds; dirty ones at that...08:37
theyesmansometimes workarounds are perfect until an actual 'fix' can be found08:39
guiverctheyesman: :)08:40
LondonAppDevHey, I just installed an application using the Ubuntu Software manager. Any ideas why it would pin to my launcher but not appear in the "Search This Computer" panel?08:40
theyesmanLondonAppDev, sometimes logging out of unity and then log in again fixes this08:41
theyesmanassuming you're using unity08:41
LondonAppDevtheyesman: yes I am using Unity on Ubuntu 16.0408:41
theyesmanLondonAppDev, try logging out08:42
LondonAppDevtheyesman: Ok I will try that. Thank you.08:44
itay2_EriC^^: I don't have FN button, I'm using an external keyboard and without laptop08:51
itay2_EriC^^: It's a desktop computer08:52
LondonAppDevtheyesman: unfortunately logging out/in didn't work :(08:52
theyesmanLondonAppDev, what application is it?08:54
LondonAppDevtheyesman: my bad, I didn't realize only some filters were set when searhcing...08:58
LondonAppDevtheyesman: That's why they weren't coming up...08:58
theyesmanLondonAppDev, no probs. glad you figured it out anyway08:58
LondonAppDevtheyesman: thanks mate.08:58
G3nka1hey guys is it safe to upgrade to ubuntu 16.10 ?08:59
G3nka1does it have a lot of bugs ??08:59
cfhowlettG3nka1, no08:59
cfhowlettbut why do you NEED 16.10?08:59
LondonAppDevG3nka1: So I literally switched from Windows to Ubuntu last week... I donwloaded it as a torrent, and didn't realize I had been using 16.10 instead of 16.04.09:00
G3nka1I dont know I just hit upgrade and it finished downloading and its unpacking now, but I am afraid if it'll fuck up my existing applications !? cfhowlett09:00
LondonAppDevG3nka1: This weekend I did a clean install of 16.04, and it is noticably more reliable.09:00
G3nka1LondonAppDev, oh damn, I use ubuntu form past 2-3 years09:01
G3nka1off course moved from windows09:01
LondonAppDevNice09:01
xorox90whenever I set hostname to ubuntu.local, I can connect ubuntu.local in my windows desktop, what makes it possible? how can my desktop know ubuntu.local hostname?09:01
G3nka1cfhowlett, so its safe I presume ?09:02
cfhowlettG3nka1, yes09:02
G3nka1well if it really goes wrong I am removing ubuntu completely and installing arch09:02
C2H5OHhello all, is anybody NOT using Unity with Xenial?  I'm trying to make gnome-settings-damon work, but the mediakeys plugin does not seem to be functioning.  It used to work fine in 12.04.09:03
LondonAppDevG3nka1: The main issues I had with 16.10 were: When I restarted the machine, it was saying a "serious error" occured. Sometimes it would hang and I would need to hold the power button in to turn off... The second issue was whenever I locked and then unlocked the computer, the system tray icons would disappear (it would be a red circle with a line through it, like a file not found)... Other than that it seemed fine.09:03
C2H5OH(well, to be precise, most of the plugins are not working: power, mouse, etc; and yes, they are configured to be activated, checked with "gsettings list-recursively")09:04
akikxorox90: it's the zeroconf/mdns system which in ubuntu is handled by avahi09:04
LondonAppDevG3nka1: Another noticeable difference was that Chrome was really unstable on 16.10. If I was using Skype web on one tab it would lag badly... I don't have the same issue on 16.0309:04
itay2_Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to disable/set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?09:05
xorox90Thx akik what is best practice for setting hostname, should it be my Internet domain name?09:05
cfhowlettitay2_, 1.  are you booting from the USB/CDrom or is this installed to HDD09:05
itay2_cfhowlett: USB09:06
cfhowlettitay2_, so when you say "booting to main menu" I assume you actually mean booting the USB?09:06
itay2_cfhowlett: yes09:06
akikxorox90: if you have a static ip, use that. otherwise look into /etc/hosts how the setup configured it. also /etc/hostname09:07
cfhowlettitay2_, and you have a wireless Keyboard?09:07
itay2_cfhowlett: no09:07
OSryxHi, what does the channel #ubuntu-MOTU stands for please ?09:07
cfhowlettOSryx, Master of the Universe09:07
xorox90thx again akik! I have to go to read both : )09:08
OSryx@cfhowlett hahaha thank you09:08
LondonAppDevDoes anyone use KeePass2 on Ubuntu with plugins? I am getting this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/840577/using-plugins-with-keepass209:11
darwin__hol09:11
darwin__hola09:12
cfhowlett!es | darwin__09:12
ubottudarwin__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.09:12
darwin__gracias09:14
meldronhey guys whats the difference between gnome and ubuntu-gnome-desktop packages?09:15
cfhowlettmeldron, ubuntu-gnome-desktop are the desktop environment and ubuntu-gnome apps.  gnome is the DE only09:16
meldronis there a list what apps are included?09:17
cfhowlettmeldron, apt-get install -s ubuntu-gnome-desktop        will list it all but not install09:17
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meldroncfhowlett: imo is the package listing a little bit noisy, with all the libraries and stuff09:20
meldroncfhowlett: but I get what you mean, thanks a lot09:20
cfhowletthappy2help!09:20
amincdHi, I remember using a program called Dracula(?) a few years ago where I could enter text documents, and could easily search through them. Sound familiar?09:21
amincdI'm trying to find the program, or something like it, to install it09:22
C2H5OHok, using upstart-settings-daemon instead of gnome-settings-daemon seems to work better09:23
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C2H5OHis there a sound volume applet for the system tray (I'm not looking for indicator plugins, but systray applets)09:23
ppfC2H5OH: what DE are you using?09:24
C2H5OHnone, I'm just using a window manager: i3 in this case09:24
OSryx@ppf Desktop Environment09:24
ppfOSryx: ?09:24
ppfC2H5OH: k09:24
OSryxsorry09:25
OSryx@ppf I tought you were saying what is DE09:25
ppfC2H5OH: i'm on awesome and i've been using volumeicon09:26
ppf!info volumenicon-alsa xenial09:26
ubottuPackage volumenicon-alsa does not exist in xenial09:26
C2H5OHwhat package is that?09:26
latemushey09:26
ppf!info volumeicon-alsa xenial09:26
ubottuvolumeicon-alsa (source: volumeicon): systray volume icon for alsa. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6-2.2 (xenial), package size 33 kB, installed size 185 kB (Only available for linux-any)09:26
ppf!info volumeicon-alsa yakkety09:26
ubottuvolumeicon-alsa (source: volumeicon): systray volume icon for alsa. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6-2.2 (yakkety), package size 33 kB, installed size 185 kB (Only available for linux-any)09:26
latemus!info kernel09:26
ubottuPackage kernel does not exist in yakkety09:26
C2H5OHppf: xenial09:27
latemus!info release09:27
ubottuPackage release does not exist in yakkety09:27
ppfC2H5OH: either way, the package is in both09:27
latemus!info systemd09:27
ubottusystemd (source: systemd): system and service manager. In component main, is important. Version 231-9git1 (yakkety), package size 2269 kB, installed size 9376 kB (Only available for linux-any)09:27
latemus!info bloatware09:27
ubottuPackage bloatware does not exist in yakkety09:27
latemus!info spyware09:27
ubottuPackage spyware does not exist in yakkety09:27
latemus!info cannonical09:27
ubottuPackage cannonical does not exist in yakkety09:27
cfhowlettlatemus, do that in private: /msg ubottu bloatware09:27
MonkeyDustlatemus  stop. use /msg ubottu instead09:27
ppfC2H5OH: it's not very impressive, it's a little icon that shows if you're muted and will tell you the volume as a tooltip09:28
ppfand it can open alsamixer09:28
C2H5OHppf: mmm, I was looking to use PulseAudio,  I'm not very fond of it but headphone detection works pretty well09:28
ppf(if you're using alsa, obviously)09:28
C2H5OHppf: by the way, are you running *-settings-daemon also?  To make media-keys work (and suspension, fwiw)09:29
ppfno09:29
ppfmy keyboard has four media keys and i hard-config'ed them09:29
C2H5OH:-(09:31
eagleeyesDoes Ubuntu market have an app compatible with osmand map data?09:32
MonkeyDusteagleeyes  depends on what osmand map is09:32
C2H5OHppf: by the way, I just found pasystray that seems like a workable replacement in case you want to use PulseAudio09:33
C2H5OHppf: seems to be related to pavucontrol09:33
eagleeyesmonkeydust hello :)09:33
eagleeyesopen street maps09:34
MonkeyDusteagleeyes  i read here, it's for ubuntu phone09:34
MonkeyDust!phone | eagleeyes09:34
ubottueagleeyes: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch09:34
eagleeyesI want to divide the map into quadrants and paste the key on my face in the mirror.09:34
eagleeyesmonkeydust this isn't for a phone ubunu runs on my laptop09:35
eagleeyesis there anything you will have me do for you?09:36
Flanneleagleeyes: navit09:37
kamisamaWhat can I do to improve battery in ubuntu besides installing tlp?09:37
eagleeyesflannel navit is compatible with osm data?09:37
Flanneleagleeyes: navit can use data from OpenStreetMap09:38
eagleeyesIt is possible I can use Google map data I don't see how Google can hide it , by using the temp files.09:38
eagleeyesif Google map data is any better09:38
FlannelI have no idea.  Navit can get data from commercial GPS stuff too.  I have no idea if google is also a valid source.09:39
eagleeyesis Google data any better than osm?09:39
cfhowletteagleeyes, nothing to do with ubuntu. suggest you find a mapping or googlemaps or openmap channel09:40
cfhowlettopenstreetmaps09:40
eagleeyesUbuntu runs surprisingly slow on a 2.5ghz penryn09:40
MonkeyDusteagleeyes  is that a mac?09:41
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eagleeyesthe purpose of doing this on Ubuntu is for the higher CPU power but the GUI isn't any more responsive on a 2.5 GHz CPU than the GUI on my phone09:42
eagleeyesdoes it need be plugged into a 'cloud'09:42
eagleeyessome of the cloud tool app suggestions suggest it09:43
eagleeyesis trusty a cloud node kernel?09:44
cfhowlettcloud or not cloud will not effect GPU speed09:44
FireStrikerHey how do you set up dual monitors?09:45
stevlarFireStriker, just plug them09:49
itay2_Hello, I have a problem where I'm loading the ubuntu 16.04.1 main menu, and pressing F6 to disable/set noeaveu driver, but when I press F6 nothing happens. what should I do?09:57
kernellohello everyone, is there a different key combination for visual keyboards that works the same way as 'AltGr+key'?09:58
kernellobecause there is no AltGr key09:58
kernelloon visual keyboards09:58
kernellovisual=virtual09:58
eagleeyesanybody able to create a Medusa plugin?09:58
`{^v^}kernello, use onboard it has altgr10:00
`{^v^}kernello,  in onboard click the button that looks like a mouse pointer10:01
kernello`{^v^} I dont know what onboard is, but I have nowhere a button like a mouse pointer10:03
`{^v^}kernello, onboard is a virtual onscreen keyboard10:03
kernelloby the way, your nick rocks :)10:03
kernelloyes, that's what I have. but I dont see it10:04
`{^v^}kernello, http://i.imgur.com/Yu4mDOq.png  <-- thats what mine looks like10:06
xorox90Is it possible to upgrade non-lts to lts?10:09
`{^v^}yes10:09
`{^v^}if your distro is too far out of date it will take more than 1 upgrade10:10
MonkeyDustxorox90  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue10:10
kernello`{^v^} yours is way more advanced than mine here, but I found out that the problem was not related to the keyboard, but lying somewhere else, and just fixed it..thank you very much, all the same :)10:11
xorox90MonkeyDust I'm planning to use yakety yak(16.10) and if possible, I will update 17.0410:11
MonkeyDustxorox90  ok, but what's the output of   cat /etc/issue10:12
kernellociao everyone, have a good sunday :)10:12
MonkeyDustxorox90  in a terminal10:12
xorox90I don't know I didn't install ubuntu 16.10 yet and I'm planning to install 16.10 if upgrade from 16.10 -> 17.04 possible10:14
jattit will upgrade10:14
`{^v^}that it will10:14
* MrCodeDev hi :)10:14
`{^v^}hi10:14
MonkeyDustxorox90  17.04 isnt in alpha yet, that's a bit early10:15
GourlayI have a computer set up to a TV-screen and the date changes from time to time and sometimes my wifi isn't recognized. What does this depend upon? If I restart I can get everything right, but do not want to restart.10:15
`{^v^}but it will be and when it is it will upgrade just fine10:15
ppfC2H5OH: nice, thanks for the hint10:16
MonkeyDusthttp://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-17-04-to-be-dubbed-zesty-zapus-will-launch-on-april-2017-509371.shtml10:18
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`{^v^}yup as per the numbering scheme 16.10 came out on 2016 on the 10th month10:19
xorox90I mean.. when after 17.04 released , can I upgrade from 16.10 to 17.0410:19
`{^v^}yes you can10:20
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eagleeyesmonkeydust you don't have to upgrade do you?10:20
xorox90I'm not asking about now but asking about future, anyway thanks `{^v^}  and MonkeyDust10:21
eagleeyesI care believe it or not.10:21
PCdudewhen I type "lxc list" it goes to the next line but stays there. no change or error. How can I see more of what the command is trying to do?10:22
guardianL:-(10:25
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Guest5701hola10:51
tomreynhi Guest570110:51
FireStrikerHey guys how do i see what version I have?10:54
tomreynlsb_release -d10:55
yotkaguiver-c: Sorry, I was afk. I'll respond to your questions in the issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/156698710:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1566987 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No internet connection through WLAN although connected to network" [Undecided,New]10:55
yotkaguiver-c: Thank you!10:55
cfhowlettFireStriker,terminal: lsb_release -a10:56
FireStrikerThanks I am trying to install Skype10:56
charlatanusKK10:57
FireStrikerI have 16.10 I download 12.04 right10:58
cfhowlettthat makes no sense10:58
FireStrikerik Go to Skype and have a look10:58
cfhowlettskype is in the repos.10:58
tomreynFireStriker: skype is available from the canonical "partner" repository.10:58
cfhowlettno need to to go skype10:58
FireStrikerOk how do I do that10:59
FireStrikerWhat's the package?10:59
MonkeyDust!skype11:00
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga11:00
no!Ekiga11:00
ubottuekiga is an Internet telephony application included with Ubuntu, which supports the SIP and H323 protocols. Information and help at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ekiga11:00
noyo11:03
latemushai gais11:05
latemushow do i upgrade coreutils11:06
latemuson ubuntu desktop11:06
kang0Hello11:06
latemushi kang011:06
kang0Don't upgrade11:06
ppflatemus: apt full-upgrade11:06
kang0You ll soon expire11:06
latemusppf i get an error whin i run that command11:06
ppflatemus: paste please11:06
latemusppf: ok11:06
latemussec11:06
ppfkang0: what are you on about?11:07
kang0Ppf just trolling11:07
FireStrikerI am having some problems what do I type11:07
tomreynFireStriker: read what you just wrote, and now think about how anyone could help you based on this statement?11:08
latemusokay ppf http://pastebin.com/raw/hM1MYL5K11:08
FireStrikerTrue11:08
ppflatemus: gg11:09
latemuslol11:09
FireStrikerI am trying to install Skype11:09
latemuswhats gg11:09
latemusthats the error11:09
latemushow do i resolve? pls advise11:09
tomreynFireStriker: so try to explain better: what have you tried to do, how did you expect it to work, how do you know it did not work the way you expected?11:09
latemussu -c 'apt-get update all'11:10
latemusgives the error11:10
FireStrikerMalformed entry 53 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (Component)11:11
FireStrikerThe list of sources could not be read11:11
latemusim sorry i shitposted11:11
latemusforgive me11:11
latemusit was wrong im sorry11:11
latemusdont view the link it was a troll11:12
latemusbut its ok im sorry11:12
latemusi wont do it again okay cannonicals?11:12
MonkeyDustlatemus  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too11:12
FireStriker!skype11:12
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga11:12
latemusMonkeyDust: you're not wrong11:12
FireStrikerI can't seem to add the repo11:13
tomreynFireStriker: please post /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin11:13
FireStrikerOk11:13
tomreyn!pastebin | FireStriker11:13
ubottuFireStriker: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:13
FireStrikerOk done now what?11:15
eagleeyesshakalaka have you visions of Lockheed martin?11:16
eagleeyeshim locked himself in11:17
eagleeyesby programming adonikam11:17
eagleeyesHim11:17
FireStrikerHelp11:17
eagleeyesfire striker what do you need?11:18
FireStrikerHey eagle how are you11:18
MonkeyDusteagleeyes  are you a bot?11:18
eagleeyesto test your vision shakalaka how did he pass?11:18
eagleeyesno11:18
FireStrikerI am trying to install Skype and I am new, I am being push around atm.11:18
eagleeyesno monkeydust11:18
eagleeyesfirestryker ask Skype they like to put Skype on ubuntu11:19
eagleeyesshakalaka I had this recurring vision and feeling11:20
FireStrikerHow do you check repos?11:20
tomreynFireStriker: we're waiting for you to post your source.list to a pastebin and provide us with the url11:20
FireStrikerOk11:20
FireStriker!pastebin11:20
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:20
eagleeyeshow does Him handle the snow?11:20
Guest41526how do you open up Python?11:22
tomreyneagleeyes: please limit the chat in here to ubuntu support. other chat related to ubuntu can go to #ubuntu-offtopic.11:22
Guest41526it says its installed but i dont know how to open it11:22
eagleeyesif the weapons really depend on the darpanet11:22
eagleeyesthis vision can be a reality11:22
tomreyneagleeyes: stop11:22
tomreynGuest41526: what do you mean by "open up python"? are you saying you want to run python itself, or a python script?11:23
eagleeyesguest41526 I write a code and run it using py code.py11:23
FireStrikerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/23369037/plain/11:24
FireStrikerHere you go11:25
FireStrikerHow do I check repos11:26
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FireStrikertomreyn http://paste.ubuntu.com/23369037/plain/11:26
tomreynFireStriker: what you just did was to post the error message you received on the pastebin. what i suggested you'd do is to post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin.11:27
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Snowmanx11Is there any way to automatically mount my windows shared drive now?11:29
MonkeyDustSnowmanx11  explore gigolo, it's the name of the tool11:29
Snowmanx11OK, thanks11:29
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FireStrikerI am new to Linux11:30
MonkeyDustFireStriker  as windows and mac are the mainstream, we all were11:31
FireStrikerCan you just tell me how to get it to tell me how to get the console to show the repos11:31
EriC^^FireStriker: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 999911:33
EriC^^it'll give you a link back, paste it here11:33
FireStrikerWhat's the line?11:36
EriC^^what line?11:36
EriC^^the whole sentence above is the command11:36
EriC^^does it give multiple pastes?11:37
EriC^^nope11:37
FireStrikerYea ik I am asking about the line after nc11:38
EriC^^you have to specific :P11:38
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EriC^^anyways that's a site that uses nc to put your paste and return a link11:38
FireStrikerNc before tempbin11:38
FireStrikerIs it a I ?11:39
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EriC^^ah11:39
EriC^^it's a shift + \11:39
EriC^^it's a pipe11:39
FireStrikerOk11:39
FireStrikerNo such file or directory11:41
MonkeyDustFireStriker  simply copy the line and paste it in a terminal11:41
MonkeyDustFireStriker  then hit enter11:41
FireStrikerI do it does a wierd v thing11:42
EriC^^try shift+ctrl+v11:42
FireStrikerJust a moment need to move to the computer I am on my phone11:43
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FireStrikerok i am back whats the command11:44
EriC^^FireStriker: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 999911:45
EriC^^what's your initial problem anyways?11:45
MonkeyDustFireStriker  that doesnt include your name11:45
FireStrikerhavign a problem trying ot add a repo to download skype11:46
FireStrikerno such file or directory still11:46
MonkeyDustFireStriker  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue11:46
EriC^^what have you tried so far?11:46
FireStrikeri have tryed to add it with nothing poping up to say i have added it11:47
FireStrikerand it error when i try to download and install skype11:47
FireStrikerbecuase it cant find the repo i11:47
FireStrikeri think11:47
EriC^^did you follow the steps here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype11:48
FireStrikeryep11:48
MonkeyDustFireStriker  in the system settings > sources11:48
FireStrikersystem settings11:48
FireStrikerwhere do i find that lol11:49
FireStrikeralso lubuntu11:49
MonkeyDustFireStriker  first play around a bit, find out what's where11:50
MonkeyDustmake yourself familiar with the new interface11:51
FireStrikerfound system info11:53
csst0111last night I did an apt-get  update followed by an upgrade. this morning I opened my pc but : a) cant move mouse and b) resolution is like 400x300 and c) i dont think its connected to the net11:54
FireStrikerbut i cant a system settings11:54
AngelXenialsorry you can restore IMEI  in bq aquaris 4.5 ubuntu ?11:54
MonkeyDust!phone | AngelXenial11:54
ubottuAngelXenial: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch11:54
AngelXenialyes MonkeyDust11:55
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csst0111from grub menu > ubuntu advanced options > choose previously version (3.13.0.96  I think )  and now its ok. Should i remove the one with the problem ? I? think its 3.13.0.100 how can I remove it ?11:59
EriC^^!info linux-image-generic trusty12:01
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.100.108 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB12:01
EriC^^csst0111: type grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 999912:02
EriC^^csst0111: the easy way would be to purge it, and not upgrade the linux-image-generic metapackage until a new kernel is released12:02
BluesKajHiyas all12:03
FatSpitfirehey dudes , anyone from the ubuntu team here ?12:03
EriC^^you can also set grub to always boot it and remove that later when a newer kernel comes out12:03
MonkeyDustFatSpitfire  simply ask your question12:03
FatSpitfireI want to contribute . Wait that`s not a real question :D12:04
FatSpitfirehow to become a part of the ubuntu team than >12:04
MonkeyDust!contribute > FatSpitfire12:04
ubottuFatSpitfire, please see my private message12:04
FatSpitfire?12:04
jattsure. shuttleworth is a regular12:04
csst0111thnx EriC^^12:05
EriC^^csst0111: no problem12:07
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codfectionwhich terminal emulator should I use if gnome-terminal is buggy for me?12:21
MonkeyDust!find terminal | codfection12:23
ubottucodfection: Found: gnome-terminal, gnome-terminal-data, ubuntu-terminal-app, xterm, aterm, aterm-ml, caja-open-terminal, eterm, evilvte, fte-terminal (and 45 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=terminal&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all12:23
codfectionMonkeyDust: I have installed termite but I cant open right click menu12:23
MonkeyDustcodfection  find a different one in the software center12:23
MonkeyDustcodfection  find out which terminal suits you12:24
codfectionk12:24
jattcodfection: which gnome-terminal bug?12:25
strkSetting up libvirt-bin (1.3.1-1ubuntu10.5) ...12:27
strkJob for libvirt-bin.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status libvirt-bin.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.12:27
ram545ano tutuya ?12:27
strkshould I report those kind of errors to package maitainer ?12:27
strk( Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com> )12:28
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ram545quit12:30
Sleepmoderok12:30
bigmanI'm having trouble setting up external hardrive for storage, i can chmod 777 the mounted directory in /media, but whenever i disconnect the hardrive, and replug it in, i cant save any files, I also tried editing the fstab file with the UUID for the drive, but then the drive completly fails to mount if i connect it, any one to help with this?12:33
Sleepmodewhat email-program do you use for ubuntu?12:36
cfhowlettthunderbird works well Sleepmode12:36
Sleepmodethanks12:36
PanosAsproulis[mI use Evolution on ubuntu GNOME12:36
SimooonSleepmode, there has been a lot of hype about N1, havent tried it, but it looks nice from the screenshots I've seen12:38
SimooonSleepmode, I don't think it is in the repositories though.12:38
Sleepmodeok thx i will take a look :)12:39
PanosAsproulis[mN1 requires you to use their own server for collecting your e-mail.12:39
PanosAsproulis[mAlso, it is still quite primitive.12:40
SimooonPanosAsproulis[m, Oh, that seems like an annoying "feature"12:40
PanosAsproulis[mYou can install and use your own server but then you have more complications and work12:41
ppfSleepmode: claws-mail12:41
SimooonPanosAsproulis[m, So you can't just connect it to a gmail or whatever account?12:41
ppfthunderbird is horribly slow and a dead project12:42
HexadesuGeary12:42
ppfand i've had it delete all my emails12:42
MonkeyDusti use it too12:42
PanosAsproulis[mclaws-mail is good but the problem with all other e-mail clients except Thunderbird and Evolution is the fact that they do not have calendar support12:42
ppfclaws mail has a calendar plugin12:42
PanosAsproulis[mDoes it?12:42
ppfyes12:43
PanosAsproulis[mI'll have a look at that.12:43
SimooonDid they entirely discontinue development on thunderbird?12:43
ppfSimooon: yes12:43
Simooonbut why?12:43
ppfmozilla still provides security updates, but no new features12:43
ppfshrinking user base. everyone uses gmail and outlook.com these days12:44
Simooontalking about communnications applications, what IRC clients do you use, I used to use plain XChat, but now it has been replaced by XChat-gnome in the repos, and that version is confusing and weird, so I'm looking to change.12:45
cfhowlettSimooon, bad idea12:45
cfhowlettxchat is well and truly dead.  use hexchat instead12:45
MonkeyDustirssi <312:45
Hexadesuweechat12:46
SimooonWill look into those, thanks. Tried haxchat before, perhaps I'll give it an other go.12:48
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Simooonoh the irssi one is the cli one, tried that one before, cool, but I think I'l go for one that is not a CLI based12:49
cyber-arcsss12:52
mikubuntuomg. i've been afraid to do updates on this laptop because about 2 mos or so ago i did updates on my other one and it failed after the updates (black screen of death). so this has been getting buggier and buggier until this morning was getting fail on boot something like 'disk tmp is not present or ready' and neither chrome, maxthon, nor firefox would even launch. opera launched, and i'm on it now.12:52
cyber-arcl12:53
cfhowlettmikubuntu, clean install 16.0412:53
cfhowlettif updates are failing, this will refresh your system12:53
mikubuntucfhowlett: i wonder if i can even get a disk copied. but i can try. why not 16.10?12:54
cfhowlettmikubuntu, LTS12:54
XenomorphCmputini wait for zoophilic zebra 17.0412:55
cfhowlettXenomorphCmputin, don't spread disinformation please.  zesty zarus is the next release12:56
mikubuntucfhowlett: i haven't tried to do updates because i was afraid the whole thing would crash, naturally i don't have any of my files backed up. i'm a candidate in an election, and i really need to make sure i have access to my files.12:56
XenomorphCmputincfhowlett, thank you forgot the name of the successor12:56
mikubuntuwell, guess i should back up everything i can before i mess with the system.12:56
cfhowlettmikubuntu, immediately back up your files then12:56
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  backup is alwys a good idea12:56
mikubuntucfhowlett: yup.12:56
mikubuntui think someone mentioned that somewhere along the way .. lol.12:57
XenomorphCmputinwhats the name of upcoming releases? maybe trees instead of animals?12:57
cfhowlett!zesty | XenomorphCmputin12:57
ubottuXenomorphCmputin: Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) will be the 26th release of Ubuntu.  It is due to be released in April 2017. Discussion in #ubuntu+112:57
Simooonwooohoo, I'm back, now on hexchat, seems a lot more comfortable than that XChat-gnome thing :-)12:57
jattxchat blows12:58
Simooondamn12:58
Simooonthat was my favorite client12:58
jatt😸12:58
MonkeyDustcoming of age, Simooon12:58
MonkeyDust(joke)12:58
Simooonhehe12:59
XenomorphCmputinjatt, use telnet12:59
FatSpitfireand what to do if my county doesn`t have a LoCo team ?13:00
XenomorphCmputini used a telnet gateway to irc over packet radio back in the 90's13:00
MonkeyDustFatSpitfire  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic13:00
FatSpitfireok :) thanks13:00
xXEoflaOEXxhi13:01
mikubuntucfhowlett: what's the commandline if you don't mind to determine what version i have installed?13:01
abdullahAziz ne yaptınız kardeşim13:02
jk^excuse me, how to cancel an entry on http://paste.ubuntu.com/ I enter a text much time ago, but it's still there, i don't want that... how to cancel that? http://paste.ubuntu.com/ don't give possibility to timer or countdown text pasted :| (excuse for my english)13:02
mikubuntucan i store my backup and a bootable .iso on the same usb?13:03
zackychanHi everybody , I ran apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic to install latest kernel , but how can I make them be effective ?13:04
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zackychanshould I rebbot?13:05
xXEoflaOEXxI just installed xscreensaver 5.36 and its extras using hda-me's PPA, When I go to it it does not give me new screensavers like CubeStack13:06
jattzackychan: yes you need to restart13:08
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  yes, if you have more than one partitoin on the usb stick13:10
zackychanthank you jatt13:10
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: ok i wonder if i'm capable of setting that up ... lol13:11
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: figured out i'm running 14.04.03 lubuntu right now13:12
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  gparted does the trick13:12
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: but i'm not sure of the configuration to set up? just two fat32 partitions?13:13
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  ext4 for ubuntu, the other doesnt matter, i guess13:13
xXEoflaOEXxI just installed xscreensaver 5.36 and its extras using hda-me's PPA, When I go to it it does not give me new screensavers like CubeStack13:15
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , what you need two partitions in one USB anyways ?13:16
zackychanjatt should I run update-grub before rebooting ?13:16
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: how do i know if i should install 32b or 64b? i seem to remember having some kind of pae related problem on original install of this thing13:16
FatSpitfirewhy*13:16
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: to store my backup, and a bootable image for install13:16
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  sudo dmidecode --413:17
FatSpitfiremikubuntu make them both ext4 than13:17
nuno_nunesFatSpitfire, two partions on pen drive usb in fat32 is detected in windows is a not detected :)13:18
nuno_nunesdetected in linux13:18
nuno_nunes:d13:18
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  sudo dmidecode --type 413:18
FatSpitfireuse Puppy`s Grub4Dos - I use it all the time - better than Grub13:18
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: unrecognized option '--4'13:19
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  that was a typo, it's --type 413:20
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  what's the very last line13:20
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: " unrecognized option '--4'13:21
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  that was a typo, it's --type 413:21
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  sudo dmidecode --type 413:21
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: ok lemme try13:21
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: last line '64 bit capable'13:23
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  \o/13:23
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: should i pastebin all the other output?13:23
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  no13:23
MonkeyDustmikubuntu> MonkeyDust: how do i know if i should install 32b or 64b?13:24
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: k lemme see if i can fine lub 16.04 64bit image13:24
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: ok, downloading lub 64bit 16.04.0113:25
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MonkeyDustmikubuntu  great, good luck13:32
iambatmanhi guys, I sometimes need to print my code on a windows machine by manually copying the files from a linux machine through a USB13:33
XenomorphCmputini started with Dapper Drake13:33
VN7 anyone here who can guide me on converting pdf to odt?13:33
XenomorphCmputinbefore ubuntu was quite unusable13:33
iambatmanI see that when I open the files using notepad the lines are all messed up due to the way linux line endings work I think13:33
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: trust me, i'll let you know .. lol13:33
iambatmanhow can I fix it?13:34
XenomorphCmputini want a skunklock case for my son13:36
XenomorphCmputinif he opens the computer, he has to barf13:36
MonkeyDustXenomorphCmputin  use this to convert pdf to Word, you can then convert to .odt ... i didnt find another way13:37
MonkeyDustXenomorphCmputin  https://www.pdftoword.com/13:37
xXEoflaOEXxWhen I run ./configure in xscreensaver 5.36 directory I see so many lines and then it says: configure: error: Couldn't find X11 headers/libs.  Try `./configure --help'.13:37
MonkeyDustVN7  ^^^^13:38
XenomorphCmputinMonkeyDust, i need it as dbase13:38
mikubuntuif i want to backup all files on the system to i want to grab the 'home folder' or the 'username' folder?13:38
antifahey ! any one here ? I just upgraded my ubuntu and wanted to select a new imput language but the only 2 active languages are english and english us or something like that, the other languages are blured and can't be selected any ideas ?13:38
lordcirth_mikubuntu, /home shouldn't be much bigger so you may as well13:38
mikubuntulordcirth_: ok thx13:39
VN7MonkeyDust, i USED this, but it doesn't give me all the right types of table of content, headlines and so on.13:40
VN7MonkeyDust, this: http://filehippo.com/download_free_pdf_to_word_doc_converter/download/f5a10043e12eab9fb55aee2eb998c47f/.13:40
mikubuntuso to recap, i have a 16gb usb, and i want to store my backup AND put the bootable .iso of lub 64bit 16.04 on it -- i should gpart two partitions? one ext4 and what other one to receive the backup files?13:41
MonkeyDustVN7  that's a .exe, for windows13:41
VN7MonkeyDust, Yes, I use Windows at this computer, but Ubuntu on my other.13:42
VN7MonkeyDust, I test the site you gave and see if I get the headlines, table of context more accurate this time.13:42
MonkeyDustVN7  ok, hope it's useful13:43
zackychanHi, I installed new kernel with  apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic , but after reboot they are not loaded. what should I do ?13:43
VN7MonkeyDust, thanks, have a nice one.13:43
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FatSpitfireMonkeyDust , have you configured Bind9 DNS ?13:45
antifahey ! any one here ? I just upgraded my ubuntu and wanted to select a new imput language but the only 2 active languages are english and english us or something like that, the other languages are blured and can't be selected any ideas ?13:46
superguest!theme13:47
ubottuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy13:47
superguestYou know someone ought to update !theme, it's so outdated it's not even funny13:47
antifahey ! any one here ? I just upgraded my ubuntu and wanted to select a new imput language but the only 2 active languages are english and english us or something like that, the other languages are blured and can't be selected any ideas ?13:50
lanoxxit seems my php installation on Ubuntu 16.04 is broken, when I execute a simple php script such as phpinfo() I see the following error message: handle($request); $response->send(); $kernel->terminate($request, $response); I am thinking that this is broken since I upgraded from Ubuntu 14.04 to Ubuntu 16.04 since I have not used php or apache since then13:51
lanoxxHas anybody previously encountered this problem and can suggest a fix?13:51
lanoxxcurrently I am not even sure how to debug this13:51
mikubuntuis there a commandline way to save at least a list of all my apps, browsers, programs etc?13:51
xXEoflaOEXxWhen I run ./configure in xscreensaver 5.36 directory I see so many lines and then it says: configure: error: Couldn't find X11 headers/libs.  Try `./configure --help'.13:51
XenomorphCmputinantiaff: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/prefs-language-install.html13:52
lordcirth_mikubuntu, when you install the iso, it's usually not as a partition - you should be able to set that up but it won't be the normal way.13:52
lordcirth_mikubuntu, actually, you could format it all ext4, put the iso on as a file, and then custom-configure Grub on the USB to boot the ISO.  Tricky though.13:52
mikubuntulordcirth_: so it's preferable to use one usb for my backup and another for the .iso?13:52
lordcirth_mikubuntu, that would be simplest, yes13:52
mikubuntulordcirth_: ok, time to go search for a usb .. lol13:53
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FatSpitfirelanoxx , reinstall php bro - sudo apt-get install -reinstall php513:54
mikubuntulordcirth_: and the .iso usb i format with gpart as ext4 or fat32?13:54
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lordcirth_mikubuntu, when you dd the iso over, it overwrites everything.13:54
nolaifhey13:54
lordcirth_nolaif, hi13:55
mikubuntulordcirth_: but i have to format the stick right?13:55
VN7Anyone here who can say why my ubuntu 16.04 miss wifi connection and have wrong time on upstart, but this is fixed when I restart computer?13:55
mikubuntulordcirth_: i'm about to erase everything on it13:55
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , depends if you want you windows7 to see the partition ? do you dual boot ?13:55
lordcirth_mikubuntu, normally you just dd the iso onto it.  which would overwrite everything13:56
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: nope, just gonna be lub13:56
lordcirth_so a filesystem would be pointless13:56
mikubuntulordcirth_: forgive my ignorance, i just really don't understand more than a 1rst grader of this even tho i've been around since 7.04 lol13:57
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , I suggest installing ubuntu server , than lubuntu-desktop13:57
lordcirth_FatSpitfire, why?13:58
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: that sounds like it's over my pay-grade13:58
FatSpitfireubuntu server is more stable13:58
lanoxxFatSpitfire, done that, it installed php php7.0 php7.0-fpm after that I also manuall installed libapache2-mod-php but I am still getting the same issue13:58
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: i don't know anything about running a server tho13:58
lordcirth_mikubuntu, the ISO contains it's own bootloader and filesystem inside.  So you just overwrite the drive with it raw, and it's formatted how you want13:58
ikoniano it's not FatSpitfire13:58
lordcirth_FatSpitfire, how is it more stable if you install the same packages?13:58
ikoniaFatSpitfire: I suggest you stop  saying nonsense things please13:59
mikubuntulord13:59
ikoniamikubuntu: lubuntu is just fine, it's the same core OS as the server OS, hence why FatSpitfire is incorrect13:59
mikubuntulordcirth_: ok13:59
FatSpitfirelanoxx , damn - where are you getting that error ? on your server ?13:59
mikubuntuikonia: ok13:59
lanoxxFatSpitfire, on my local machine13:59
ikonialanoxx: that is not "broken"13:59
mikubuntuso i'm gonna go ahead and erase my usb14:00
ikonialanoxx: which php version are you currently using ?14:00
FatSpitfireikonia , wow - I guess you`re right :D you must be a dev or smth14:00
ikoniaFatSpitfire: no14:00
mikubuntuto install the .iso (right after i save the /home folder to another usb)14:00
lanoxxFatSpitfire, ikonia $php --version14:00
lanoxxPHP 7.0.8-0ubuntu0.16.04.3 (cli) ( NTS )14:00
ikonialanoxx: ok - so you've moved from php 5 on 14.04 to 7 on 16.0414:00
ikonialanoxx: what does the web server log show on that request ?14:01
mikubuntuooops, nother question -- for the backup of /home what kind of formatting?14:01
lanoxxikonia, yes I think so, that most likely happend automatically during the upgrade14:01
ikonialanoxx: correct, it's expected14:01
lanoxxikonia, the log seems to show nothing, which is really surprising me14:01
ikonialanoxx: which log are you looking at14:01
lanoxxikonia, /var/log/apache2/error.log, and also /var/log/apache2/mysite.log (which I have setup through sites-available and sites-enabled in /etc/apache214:02
ikonialanoxx: so do you see the hit in the site access log /14:03
lanoxxikonia, does not seem so14:03
ikonialanoxx: then what is it hitting ?14:03
ikonialanoxx: thats the first question you've got to find14:03
mikubuntugood god, i guess this box doesn't even have gparted on it -- should i install via synaptic, software center, or commandline?14:04
Iwan-wHi I'm trying to connect to my vpn using openvpn, the problem is name resolution doesn't work when I'm connected, I can ping to ips but domain resolve doesn't work any suggestions?14:04
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  yes, you can install it14:04
ikoniamikubuntu: lets step back, what is it you're actually trying to achieve here14:04
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , whatever is easier bro14:04
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , btw installing ubuntu server is almost as easy as the desktop version14:05
mikubuntui guess i installed with sudo apt-get install gparted14:05
FatSpitfiremikubuntu nice :)14:06
lanoxxikonia, I have setup an new entry in /etc/hosts pointing mysite.local to 127.0.1.1, so it should be accessing the local apache installation14:06
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: yes seems to have installed14:06
zackychan Hi, I installed new kernel with  apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-utopic , but after reboot they are not loaded. what should I do ?14:06
ikonialanoxx: but you just said it's not14:06
ikoniazackychan: "not loaded" what do you mean14:06
zackychanafter reboot I still get old kernel version14:06
ikoniazackychan: is this a physical machine or vps14:07
zackychanikonia physical dedicated server14:07
ikoniazackychan: what does the grub config show the default kernel as14:07
zackychanikonia , what command should I enter ?14:08
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , now play around a bit - you can do almost anything with Gparted14:09
SircleHi14:09
SircleI am using 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [Quadro NVS 420]. I do not get the second display. I only get one (the first) display. I tried to swap the leds to check if everything was in order. It was. I am trying to setup a multi seat as a note. Any one has a clue on what might be wrong?14:09
VN7anyone here have some knowledge why my wifi not start and time is wrong on my ubuntu machine, but it corrects on restart?14:10
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  it's fot partitioning your usb drive, right? make sure you don't accidentally partition the wrong drive14:10
MonkeyDustor disk14:10
zackychanikonia: what command should I enter to see that ?14:10
FatSpitfireSircle , must be the display drivers14:10
lanoxxikonia, now its suddenly working, I guess most likely is that FatSpitfire's suggestion to reinstall php7 actually resolved the problem and firefox was just serving me stupid cached files14:11
FatSpitfireMonkeyDust , so do you do Bind9 configs ?14:11
SircleFatSpitfire:  display drivers? I am geting the first display. I swapped LCDs. Both work. But not at the same time.14:11
SircleFatSpitfire:  the xrandr says disconnected to 3 our of 414:12
mikubuntumonkey -- i just erased a usb that had an old iso on it, then i closed gparted, then i removed the stick, and then returned it to port -- doesn't that supposed to automagically mount/format it?14:12
FatSpitfireSircle , hm ... you have to find an app called Aditional Drivers in start menu14:12
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: -- i just erased a usb that had an old iso on it, then i closed gparted, then i removed the stick, and then returned it to port -- doesn't that supposed to automagically mount/format it?14:12
ppfSircle: can you paste the xrandr output?14:13
FatSpitfiremikubuntu it`s not like in windows :)14:13
EriC^^mikubuntu: formating is making a filesystem on it, mounting it mounting is mounting the filesystem under a dir14:13
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: wondering if i'm ready to backup my /home file to it14:13
SircleFatSpitfire:  ok, it says nvidia 340  340.96 recommended14:13
EriC^^mikubuntu: to see the disk and any partitions and filesystems try sudo parted -l14:14
mikubuntuEriC^^: just wondering if its ready to receive my backup of /home?14:14
EriC^^mikubuntu: try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999914:14
EriC^^and paste the link it gives you here14:14
Sircleppf: DP-0 connected primary 1680x1050+0+0,  DP-1 disconnected (same for DP-2,3)14:15
Shaan7Funny, I get this when trying to access termbin.com - "Your requested URL has been blocked as per the directions received from Department of Telecommunications, Government of India. Please contact administrator for more information."14:16
Shaan7Clap clap governments -_-14:16
ikoniaShaan7: what do you want us to do about that ?14:16
cfhowlettShaan7, try pastebinit14:16
Shaan7@ikonia nothing, was just sharing it :)14:17
Shaan7thanks @cfhowlett14:17
ikoniaShaan7: not really for this channel, if you need to share a paste, try one of the other pastebin services, eg: pastebin.ubuntu.com14:17
cfhowlettShaan7, happy2help!14:17
FatSpitfireShaan7 , guess you have to use VPN , Tor or smth :D lucky you don`t live in Belize14:17
anthonyb921'14:18
mikubuntuEriC^^:  https://imagebin.ca/v/2zT8RHCVkmVe14:18
ikoniathere is no need for tor or vpns14:18
ikoniathere are many other paste services available14:19
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , not ready yet14:19
SircleFatSpitfire: ppf the nvidia 340 was already selected in drivers (and was also marked as recommended)14:19
FatSpitfireikonia , true - but in Belize they don`t get skype even :D14:19
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: ok, what next :)14:20
opal 👌  /-current/ctopic ! IT'S BACK: gnaa.tech +6697 #gnaa  😂14:20
FatSpitfireSircle , look for a ubuntu driver for your video card from NVidia`s site14:20
ikoniaFatSpitfire: what has that got to do with anything14:20
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , go back to Gparted and place a boot flag on the second partition14:21
ikoniayou don't need a boot flag14:21
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: i'm just going to backup my /home folder on this one14:22
FatSpitfireSircle , that meant that the driver chosen by ubuntu is an old one that`s compatible with yours14:22
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: going to use another to put the .iso14:22
SircleFatSpitfire:  ok, w So I should change it to something else?14:23
FatSpitfiremikubuntu  , you have to format it and place a boot flag if you place your backup iso there - no flag if smth else14:24
marisiajoin #ubuntu14:24
cfhowlettmarisia, you are already in #ubuntu. what is your question14:24
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: no, not a backup .iso, just a backup of my files14:24
marisiasorry, i was just testing this application14:24
FatSpitfireSircle , I suggest trying to find the right driver for your video - I had the same problem long ago - ubuntu doesn`t support Nvidia much14:25
SircleFatSpitfire:  http://imgur.com/a/yRQKk which one to use?14:25
MuriiAnyone here using a chromebook with linux on it besides chromeos?14:25
Murii I made the seabios to boot but the system can't see the usb14:25
FatSpitfiremarisia , use /join14:25
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: uh - oh -- how do i check for MY video card?14:26
marisiaok14:26
FatSpitfireSircle , hm ... stick with the recommended one for now14:27
ppfSircle: how are your displays connected?14:28
FatSpitfireSircle , google if someone had the same problem and how it resolved - I never fixed my problem14:28
Sircleppf:  via dvi port14:29
ikoniaFatSpitfire: ubuntu has strong nvidia support14:29
ikoniaFatSpitfire: and you don't need the boot flag14:29
ikoniacould you please stop giving miss-informaiton out14:29
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , same - additional drivers in start menu14:29
FatSpitfireikonia , yes , yes - and piggs fly :D so maybe they don`t have good ATI support than ?14:30
ppfSircle: your xrandr paste says DP14:30
mikubuntuikonia: FatSpitfire  i'm getting a little worried about FatSpitfire info14:30
ikoniaFatSpitfire: ATI support depends on a lot of things,14:30
mikubuntuikonia i'm just wondering if you think my stick is ready to accept a backup of my files (/home?) https://imagebin.ca/v/2zT8RHCVkmVe14:31
FatSpitfireikonia , yeah ? - go back in #ubuntu-devel than14:31
C2H5OHI don't get it, the media-keys plugin of unity-settings-daemon seems to be running, but it doesn't respond when keys are hit14:31
ikoniaFatSpitfire: what ?14:31
mikubuntuikonia: i'm just wondering if you think my stick is ready to accept a backup of my files (/home?) https://imagebin.ca/v/2zT8RHCVkmVe14:31
SircleFatSpitfire:  ppf  I just searched nvidea site and its showinga little newer download name that I have http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/107868/en-us     (340.98) and the popup of upbunto has 340.96. Should I use the new one?14:31
FatSpitfireikonia , you seem to know a lot of ubuntu`s support , but no real help to the guy14:32
ikoniamikubuntu: I'm not sure what you're asking, to backup your files you just need a partition with a file system on it14:32
ppfSircle: let me understand your problem first before you're rushing to point to nvidia drivers14:32
ppfexplain your setup, please14:32
SircleFatSpitfire:  ppf  should I also checkbox the "using processor microcode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode?14:32
mikubuntuikonia: i just want to back up my files (mostly pics and docs) so i can blast this OS to kingdom come14:33
Sircleppf FatSpitfire  I think these are properiety dirvers14:33
ikoniamikubuntu: dead easy, create a file system on the stick, mount it, copy the files you want to keep onto it14:33
FatSpitfireSircle , better not - let`s get back on the original question . post it again please so everyone can see it14:33
ikoniathats all you need14:33
ppfSircle: yes nvidia drivers are proprietary14:33
ppfyour installed drivers are all right14:33
Sircleppf:  2 LCD/LEDs, once pc,14:33
poopiehow do I purge a thingy I don't want in the system? rm -R /etc/20_16/hill4ry still leaves some old crap =/14:33
insy@mikbuntu put them in cloud14:33
ppfSircle: connected how?14:34
Sircleppf:  dvi14:34
Mathisenpoopie, rm -rf /folder14:34
ikoniappf: -rf14:34
ikoniaoops, sorry ppf14:34
mikubuntuikonia: i just want to save everything wholesale, not pick and choose through folders and directories14:34
ikoniapoopie: -rf14:34
ppftwo dvi ports?14:34
ikoniamikubuntu: what exactly are you trying to achieve here14:34
ikoniamikubuntu: are you trying to take an "image" of your OS14:34
ppfon one gpu?14:34
poopieppf thx that got all of the hill4ry junk out of the system!14:34
ikoniamikubuntu: or backup files/folders14:34
mikubuntuikonia: backup files/folders14:34
Sircleppf:  FatSpitfire  pasting again as you said14:35
SircleI am using 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98 [Quadro NVS 420]. I do not get the second display. I only get one (the14:35
Sircle                first) display. I tried to swap the leds to check if everything was in order. It was. I am trying to setup a multi seat14:35
Sircle                as a note. Any one has a clue on what might be wrong?14:35
ikoniamikubuntu: so what files/folders do you want to save ?14:35
mikubuntuthen install lubuntu 16.0414:35
Sircleppf: I have 4 ports with teh card. Using only 214:35
ppfSircle: okay that answers the one gpu question14:35
mikubuntuikonia: like all standard ones pictures documents downloads etc that i can fit on 16gb14:36
ppfDVI you say14:36
ppfxrandr says DP thoough14:36
ppfhow is that?14:36
ikoniamikubuntu: so basically your home directory ?14:36
mikubuntuikonia: yes i guess14:36
Sircleppf:  that I dont know14:36
mikubuntuikonia: so i just want to know if the stick is ready to receive it?14:37
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , at least format the other partition with ext4 - that will be good14:37
ikoniamikubuntu: so if you put a file system on that pen drive, it will automatically mount, then from your file manage copy and paste your home directory onto that pen drives mount point14:37
ppfSircle: paste the entire output of xrandr please14:37
ikoniamikubuntu: according to that screen shot there is no partition on your pen drive14:37
cfhowlettFatSpitfire, false.  standard format for USB backup is ntfs14:37
ikoniamikubuntu: is that where you are expecting to be14:37
plutoniumyo14:38
mikubuntucfhowlett: so ntfs = fat32, right?14:38
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ikoniano14:38
Sircleppf:  FatSpitfire https://pastebin.mozilla.org/892130014:38
ikoniamikubuntu: lets focus on getting you a backup here, you have a pen drive with no partitions on - is that where you think you are ?14:38
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , goddamn it - am I the only one who opened your .jpg file :D do it - just open gparted and format14:38
ikoniamikubuntu: ignore FatSpitfire14:39
mikubuntuikonia: yes as seen in screenshot14:39
ikoniaFatSpitfire: enough - there is no partition on the pen drive - so telling him to format will cause problems14:39
ikoniamikubuntu: ok, great, so you need to create a partition14:39
ikoniamikubuntu: so lets just do this clean and simple14:39
ikoniamikubuntu: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb14:39
mikubuntuikonia: ok14:39
ikoniamikubuntu: then press "n" for new partition14:39
ikoniamikubuntu: then press "p" for primary partition14:39
ikoniamikubuntu: then accept the defaults and press "w" to write and save the new partition table14:40
ppfSircle: the quadro card has a weird connector14:40
ppfwhat kind of adapter are you using?14:40
Sircleppf: FatSpitfire question: should I  check the checkbox? http://imgur.com/a/yRQKk   b) should I download latest driver from nvideio 340.98 or stick with what ubuntu provided me 340.96?14:40
EriC^^mikubuntu: just saw your paste, follow what ikonia's saying14:40
poopiehow do I build a wall up to protect my stuff? Is there a way to see if it is up?14:40
Sircleppf:  adapter? what do you meant, I am using 420 model with simple dvi cables14:40
cfhowlettpoopie, wall?  what?14:41
ppf Sircle for get about the driver14:41
ppffor the moment at least14:41
Sircleppf:  ok..14:41
ikoniacfhowlett: I suspect this is a troll, hillary "junk" and trump "wall to protect"14:41
ppfSircle: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_420_us.html14:41
mikubuntuikonia: how do i 'accept the defaults'14:41
Sircleppf:  ahan14:41
ikoniamikubuntu: just hit enter14:41
cfhowlettikonia, oh.  thanks.  added to /ignore14:41
ppfthat your card?14:42
guzzlefryDo most external bluray burners work out of the box in Ubuntu 16.04?14:42
ikoniaguzzlefry: as a device, yes14:42
Sircleppf:  yes14:42
guzzlefryI feel a 'but' coming on.14:42
ikoniaguzzlefry: nope14:42
guzzlefryoh, good :)14:42
mikubuntuikonia: then, first sector enter 'w' ?14:42
Sircleppf:  and these cables https://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/images2500x2500/PNY_Technologies_030_0230_000_VHDCI_to_4x_DVI_D_625342.jpg14:42
ikoniamikubuntu: no, just hit enter,14:43
cfhowlettguzzlefry, most not all.  best you research the specific model you want before purchase to verify linux support14:43
ikoniamikubuntu: at the end of all the settings you will go back to the main menu, hit "w" to save and quit14:43
EriC^^mikubuntu: if it asks you for type, choose "07"14:43
FatSpitfireSircle , shame you can`t use its full potencial14:44
SircleFatSpitfire:  am?14:44
SircleFatSpitfire:  I didnt got you well. Do you mean this is a something great to have this card?14:44
FatSpitfireSircle , yeah , the card is really good - shame you can`t use it as it should14:45
ikoniaFatSpitfire: why can't he use it ?14:45
SircleFatSpitfire:  so thats only because of drivers?14:45
mikubuntuikonia: EriC^^  i am here :: https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTGq3XftRkZ14:46
FatSpitfireSircle , not sure14:46
Sircleppf:  there?14:46
ikoniaFatSpitfire: why can't he use it to it's full potential ?14:46
FatSpitfireask him not me :)14:47
ikoniamikubuntu: hit "w"14:47
SircleFatSpitfire:  how about buying a 450? http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_nvs_450_us.html14:47
FatSpitfireikonia , pls scroll a bit up , where you can see his question14:47
ikoniaFatSpitfire: I see him saying it needs configuring to use the second screen14:48
ikoniabut nothing about it not being able to use it to it's full potential14:48
FatSpitfirewell configure him than !14:48
ppfSircle: have you tried all the ports?14:48
ppfboth displays on all the ports?14:49
ppfboth in dual and single mode14:49
Sircleppf: ports have numbers in them. 1,2,3,4 Going  from 2 to 3 or 4 might not work (shop keeper said)14:49
Sircleppf:  let me try if you say14:49
mikubuntuok ikonia i am here: https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTHtccZMZit14:50
ikoniamikubuntu: ok, now you need to put a file system on /dev/sdb114:50
ikoniamikubuntu: you can put whatever file system you feel best on it and use whatever tool you feel comfortable with14:51
cansurfer2Anyone have any luck running 16.10 in Virtualbox on a Windows host?  I have the issue mentioned here, and none of the proposed fixes there have worked.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/800858/unable-to-resize-launcher-icon-in-ubuntu-16-0414:51
mikubuntuthat IS the usb right?14:51
EriC^^mikubuntu: yeah, sudo parted -l should now show you a partition below the usb info14:51
EriC^^mikubuntu: sudo mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb1 makes a ntfs filesystem , sudo mkfs.fat /dev/sdb1 makes a fat32 filesystem14:52
mikubuntuikonia: i don't feel comfortable with ANYTHING .. lol.14:52
EriC^^fat32 can't have bigger than 4gb files on it14:53
ikoniamikubuntu: ok, sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb114:53
ikoniamikubuntu: that will put ext4 on it14:53
ikoniamikubuntu: which means any linux box should be able to read it as a device14:53
EriC^^he won't be able to use it on windows out of the box though14:54
Sircleppf:  FatSpitfire  I just got display on both lcds.... I plugged dvi cable in port#1 and #314:54
Sircleppf:  FatSpitfire  I just got display on both lcds.... I plugged dvi cable in port#1 and #4 *14:54
ppfgreat14:54
mikubuntuikonia: EriC^^ so do i want ntfs, fat32, or ext4?14:54
mikubuntui'm losing oxygen to the brain14:55
ppfdo you want the stick to work on windows too?14:55
ppfthen ntfs14:55
Sircleppf:  FatSpitfire  I wondwer wh why why the port#2 was not working14:55
ppfno idea14:55
ppfbroken cable?14:55
EriC^^mikubuntu: ntfs would be a good choice to use it on windows linux or other devices14:55
mikubuntuno windows, #neverwindows14:55
EriC^^mikubuntu: fat32 would be better for compatibility like if you want to use it on a tv or car stereo etc14:55
Sircleppf:  FatSpitfire  is there a sqeuence of empty / fill ports?14:55
ppfno idea14:56
FatSpitfireSircle , weird indeed bro :)14:56
EriC^^mikubuntu: you never know though, maybe you need to get a file off your friend or something14:56
ppfdepends how the adapter is built14:56
FatSpitfireSircle at least its working14:56
mikubuntuEriC^^: i see the advantage to ntfs if i have to read it at the library or some other public box huh?14:57
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , I agree with Eric - make the second partition fat3214:57
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: I don't think i want any second partition particularly14:57
ikoniaFatSpitfire: there is no second partition14:58
ikoniaFatSpitfire: there is only 1 partition on the usb device14:58
FatSpitfireso instead of letting the guy (mikubuntu) do it by himself with Gparted - you made him confuse himself with parted ? is that right ?14:58
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: well i mean i don't NEED any second partition14:58
poopiewhat kernel is ubuntu using atm?14:58
ikoniapoopie: depends on the version14:58
EriC^^mikubuntu: yeah14:58
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: but you just told me to make second partition fat3214:58
ppf!kernel14:58
poopieif you do uname -a14:58
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)14:58
SircleFatSpitfire:  ppf  thanks!. Maybe broken card as well and not the cable? secondly I hope I can set multiseat with it?14:58
poopieFreeBSD god 10.3-STABLE FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE #0 r295946+9bbba48(9.10-STABLE)14:59
EriC^^poopie: /msg ubottu !info linux-generic <distro release name>14:59
ikoniapoopie: we are not interested in this14:59
ikoniapoopie: if you have an ubuntu question, just ask14:59
FatSpitfireyeah ? and did he say he wanted to partition another one for backups ? or am I the only one who reads14:59
poopiewas just wondering if it was on 4.8 or more14:59
ikoniaFatSpitfire: on the usb - he's created a partiion on the usb stick for backups, he does not need a second one14:59
ikoniapoopie: no current ubuntu version is 4.814:59
poopieso what is the current one?15:00
FatSpitfireSircle , happy for you dude - keep us posted :)15:00
ikoniapoopie: which one 16.04 or 16.1015:00
EriC^^!Info linux-generic > poopie15:00
poopie16.1015:00
ikoniacheck the pm the bot (ubottu) has just sent you poopie15:00
mikubuntuEriC^^: ikonia so:  sudo mkfs.ntfs -f /dev/sdb1  ?15:01
EriC^^!info linux-generic > poopie15:01
FatSpitfireikonia , oh really ? wow I guess I want looking like you did - good job15:01
ikoniamikubuntu: why do you want ntfs15:01
ikoniamikubuntu: is this backup to be used by a windows machine at all ?15:01
mikubuntuikonia: prolly not, but someone suggested it is versatile that it could be if needed15:02
ikoniamikubuntu: just use the ext4 command I gave you, lets keep it simple15:02
mikubuntui just want to access it on my new 16.04 OS if i ever get it installed!! lol15:02
ikoniamikubuntu: use the command I gave you then15:02
mikubuntuikonia: ok, would u mind repeating it?15:03
EriC^^what a tool15:03
EriC^^that mkfs15:03
ikoniamikubuntu: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb115:03
mikubuntusudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1 ... ok ikonia15:04
IranyHey guys15:06
poopieyou guys try the "ubuntu" that is baked into Windows 10 yet? It is actually kind of good. Try something like  watch -n1 'grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo |sort -k4rn'15:06
poopielol proc is there and works15:06
mikubuntuikonia: i am here -- https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTNDwsN8NDx15:07
ikoniapoopie: we know15:07
poopiedoes that count as ubuntu talk?15:07
ikoniapoopie: do you actually have a question regarding ubuntu ?15:07
cfhowlettpoopie, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic, please15:08
ikoniamikubuntu: looks good, if you open your file manager, you should see that usb device listed now as a target for you to copy files onto15:08
IranyEvery time i start my computer, my audio settings reset and my i need to activate swap again.15:08
IranySomeone knows how to fix that?15:09
linux_useranyone here familiar with vi syntax coloring?15:10
linux_userdon’t everyone answer at one time now! :)15:11
poopievi is a real pain. Use emacs with solarize =)15:13
poopieemacs > vi ... oh nooes15:14
hggdhpoopie: again: if you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic15:15
mikubuntuikonia: so i just drag and drop /home into it?15:18
mikubuntuikonia: sorry if i have to confirm every little move15:18
ikoniamikubuntu: /home/$username15:19
ikoniamikubuntu: no problem with asking, it's better to ask if you're not sure15:20
mikubuntuikonia: so ur saying do command instead of drag and drop?15:20
mikubuntuikonia: is that going to drop all user files (different users on system)?15:21
IranyI'd be annoying if i copy paste my question again since it's so up?15:21
FatSpitfiredo it :)15:22
mikubuntuIrany: you can just scroll up in the comment line to find your previous question15:22
ikoniamikubuntu: no, drag and drop is fine15:22
ikoniamikubuntu: just take your home direct, not "the" home folder15:22
mikubuntuikonia: ok drag and drop it is15:23
mikubuntuikonia: uh-oh -- now you confused me15:23
ikoniamikubuntu: how many users are on your system ?15:23
mikubuntuikonia: what's the diff between home direct and home folder?15:23
mikubuntuikonia: two users15:24
FatSpitfireIrany , post it again bro15:24
IranyI can see my question mikubuntu, but i think that nobody would scroll up looking for questions.15:24
ikoniamikubuntu: then copy the home folder so it includes both users15:25
IranyEvery time i start my computer, my audio settings reset and my i need to activate swap again.15:25
IranySomeone knows how to fix that?15:25
mikubuntuikonia: ok15:25
ikoniaIrany: pastebin your fstab15:25
IranyOk15:25
mikubuntuIrany: i think the rule is you wait 5 mins between posting questions, unless you already have an identified helper15:25
mikubuntuIrany: or 10 mins, an op will have to tell you15:26
IranyHmm, that rule is interesting.15:26
vinnie92Hi there15:26
linux_userI am disinterested in emacs15:26
mikubuntuIrany: i think just to keep things orderly15:26
linux_userso now, back to vi, the comments are dark purple, I now know how to set them to a different color, just curious what colors people liked15:27
IranyAnd i've thought that fstab was just 'fstab' on terminal, what's fstab ikonia?15:27
mikubuntuIrany: helpers are volunteers, and sometimes busy with multiple users15:27
vinnie92I'm using ubuntu 16.04 and I'm facing some issues concerning the wifi connection. The connection speed is slow (compared to the one I get usig windows)15:27
vinnie92The network card I'm using is the tp link wdn480015:28
mikubuntuikonia: ok, drag and drop not working15:29
poopiesudo modprobe ath9k not sure if it is built into the ubuntu kernel15:30
vinnie92these are the information on my network card http://dpaste.com/0MGYATF15:30
IranyAnd  what's the command?15:30
mikubuntuikonia: maybe a function of this 14.04 general bugginess15:30
ikoniamikubuntu: define "not working"15:30
vltHello. Why can root read (and even write to) a file that has 000 permissions?15:30
vinnie92poopie: the OS detects correctly the card15:31
ikoniaIrany: it's a file, in /etc, so /etc/fstab15:31
IranyOk15:31
vinnie92so I guess that the driver was loaded by the system15:31
mikubuntuikonia: i mean i try to grab the /home and it doesn't grab to move and drop15:31
poopievinnie92, what does lsmod |grep -i ath  show?15:31
ikoniamikubuntu: right click on it15:32
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vinnie92poopie: did you see this? http://dpaste.com/0MGYATF15:32
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , I know what`s the problem15:32
mikubuntuFatSpitfire: i bet ikonia disagrees with you, but shoot15:32
Iranyhttp://pastebin.com/x7AwenSK15:33
FatSpitfiremikubuntu , you don`t  have privileges - just do it as root -    sudo su and sudo pcmanfm for root fime manager15:33
vinnie92Kernel driver in use: ath9k15:33
ikoniayeah ignore FatSpitfire15:33
poopievinnie92, ok you have it that looks like it should. Do you have iw installed?15:33
ikoniasudo su should never be used15:33
vinnie92poopie: no, what it is?15:33
ikoniayou may have write problems due to file system permissions, but not read problems15:33
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vinnie92I'm running a stock version of ubuntu 16.04. I haven't installed anything yet15:34
ikoniawe can do this easier from the shell15:34
FatSpitfireok do what you want15:34
HydrogrowHello!15:34
ikoniamikubuntu: can you pastebin the output of the command "mount" please15:34
poopieiw is a network tool that makes life easy on GNU/Linux15:34
mikubuntuikonia: right click offers me to open in new tab, new window, or new terminal15:34
FatSpitfirei can tell you the same from shell - but its the same15:34
FatSpitfirehe has to be root !!! that`s all15:34
poopieikonia, you dont use sudo with GNU/Linux Ubuntu?15:34
HydrogrowMan, its been a longtime since I last used IRC.! how are yall?!15:34
ikoniapoopie: you do15:34
poopiek15:35
ikoniaFatSpitfire: he probably can't write to the pen drive as we've not changed the permissions yet15:35
ikoniabut he should be able to read his own home directory15:35
Iranyikonia http://pastebin.com/x7AwenSK15:35
FatSpitfireread it yes , but not to copy unless he`s sudo su15:35
ikoniaFatSpitfire: you don't use sudo su15:36
ikoniaFatSpitfire: and you only need read permissions to be able to copy15:36
ikoniacopy = read15:36
mikubuntuikonia: https://imagebin.ca/v/2zTW0lkKXro615:36
FatSpitfireanyways - usb permisions ? forgot about them :D15:36
poopieif he is in that group but I guess that is all set up. Last I use Ubuntu was when it was using the old Gnome. BTW you know me as Onryo ikonia =P15:36
FatSpitfireyour home folder ? ok do it and upload a pic please15:36
vinnie92poopie: so I have to install iw? Then what I should do?15:37
ikoniaIrany: you have to activate swap each time as there is no swap partition defined in the fstab file15:37
FatSpitfiredon`t just tell me over and over15:37
FatSpitfireI`ll be back in an hour to see - promise ! :D15:37
vinnie92good15:37
vinnie92anyone else can help me?15:37
IranyOh..how i define?15:37
ikoniaIrany: look at the example thats there15:38
ikoniamikubuntu: lets do this simple15:38
ikoniamikubuntu: "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt'"15:38
ikoniamikubuntu: "sudo cp -Rp /home /mnt"15:38
mikubuntuikonia: sequentially, right? one, then the other?15:39
ikoniamikubuntu: correct15:39
existensilUbuntu 16.10. Trying to figure out where my PATH is getting setup. Put echo statements at the top of ~/.bashrc and /etc/bash.bashrc and can see it already has ~/bin and ~/.local/bin but can't figure out from where.15:40
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existensilFull PATH in case that's useful. This is the full path even before /etc/bash.bashrc executes: /home/carl/bin:/home/carl/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin15:42
kerminiLiterally Hitler™ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I63o4cJKnjw "Trump is Literally Hitler™ for wanting to put America First."15:43
existensilI'd like to understand how the bash environment get's loaded. According to old docs the PATH shouldn't really be setup this early. Anyone know what might load before /etc/bash.bashrc in 100% stock 16.10 install using gnome-terminal+bash?15:44
mikubuntuikonia: uh-oh -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370178/15:44
mikubuntuikonia: and i couldn't use imagebin because it wouldn't let me copy my screenshot, said i only have read permission15:45
ikoniamikubuntu: thats fine15:45
ikoniamikubuntu: what happens if you do "sudo touch /mnt/test"15:45
__gengar__hey i'm playing around with unetbootin and I'm having trouble burning to a usbdrive.. it says its connected /dev/sdb2 and when I try to make it says i need to mount it first....15:45
LostSoulHi15:48
LostSoulI'm having trouble with making working lxc container using non-standard bridge15:49
LostSoulI mean, I've setup brigde, configure container to use it but I can access it from for example my laptop15:49
MonkeyDustLostSoul  there's also #lxcontainers15:49
ducasseLostSoul: how did you set up the bridge?15:50
LostSoulducasse: Sending  paste of config15:51
mikubuntuikonia: do i open another term for 'sudo touch /mnt/test' as i don't have command prompt in that term i just posted?15:51
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  ctrl-shift t for a new tab15:52
LostSoulducasse: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/17e0fe97/15:52
ikoniamikubuntu: just do it in the same terminal15:52
LostSoulMonkeyDust: Yeah, I know but I guess catching up with them is much harder15:52
mikubuntuikonia: the way MonkeyDust just said?15:52
LostSoulAs #ubuntu is one of themsot active15:53
LostSoulI've set up VM in VB on ubuntu 14.0415:53
LostSoulI want to make LXC container (alpine)15:53
ducasseLostSoul: you need to setup gateway on that bridge15:53
LostSoulLOL my bad ducasse15:54
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: i don't really understand how to do that, you don't mean i enter 'ctrl-shift t' as a command i don't think?15:54
LostSoulStrange thing, this VM (without brigde) is accessible from my laptop but container is not15:54
LostSoulwait,what I've just written15:55
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  no, on your keyboard15:55
LostSoulStrange thing, this VM (without gateway set) is accessible from my laptop but container is not15:55
MonkeyDustmikubuntu  the keys ctrl-shift-t15:56
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: ikonia : marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory15:56
agopoHi, I'm trying to install the internet radio app gradio via flatpak. The install seems to be fine, but when I try to run it with "flatpak run de.haeckerfelix.gradio" it gives me the error: "runtime/org.gnome.Platform/x86_64/3.22 is not installed." Anyone know how I can fix this?15:57
LostSoulducasse: Still nothing15:57
VN7anyone can say why my ubuntu 16.04 have wrong time and no wifi on upstart, but this is fixed on reboot?15:57
ducasseLostSoul: try setting bridge_stp off15:58
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ducasseLostSoul: if that doesn't work, please pastebin the lxc.network.* entries for the container16:01
mikubuntuMonkeyDust: ikonia : marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory16:02
IranyThank you ikonia16:06
LostSoulducasse: Ok, I will paste  it16:06
LostSoulducasse: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4aa6df9f/16:06
ducasseLostSoul: you have a lot of duplicated entries there, delete or comment out the first four16:08
LostSoulducasse: http://paste.debian.net/889022/ - also apline (maybe problem is here)16:09
LostSoulducasse: Is there other way to setup 2 interfaces on LXC?16:10
thor_Im not allow to do this: chsh -s /usr/bin/fish. I get som chsh: PAM: error. Sudo doenst help much. What to do??16:10
mikubuntuikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory16:11
hfpHi! I have a server currently running Debian 7. It's running a few VM using libvirt and QEMU. This is getting old and I'd like to upgrade. I was thinking to setup a Ubuntu 16.04 system in a VM, get it all up and running and then somehow switch it to metal. What would the best way be? Is it even possible at all? How would I transfer all the VMs currently running on the Debian host?16:11
ducasseLostSoul: not sure, try #ubuntu-server16:12
hfpAlso, is 16.04 stable enough or should I stick to 14.04? I know it's not very stable on a laptop I own, and the LiveCD has weird issues when I run it in a VM: it eventually gets stuck and blinks the screen white.16:12
hfpThe server is not the newest, it's a Xeon with 2 cores and 8GB RAM16:13
EriC^^hfp: sure why wouldn't it be16:13
EriC^^hfp: maybe run it as a vm, then when it's working transfer the install using rsync16:15
MuriiI need an app that will run everytime and show me all the stats of the pc16:15
Muriilike cpu usage/ram/usage of ssd etc16:15
LostSoulThanks ducasse16:15
Muriido you guys know one ?16:16
hfpEriC^^: So you mean I rsync the VM over to the running Debian? Not sure what do you mean exactly16:16
thor_okay. Maybe my question was too stupid. I just dont understand the PAM auth thing. Seems strange im not allowed to change default shell from bash to fish.16:16
EriC^^hfp: rsync the files to the bare metal machine/filesystems16:17
EriC^^and chroot from a live usb and fix grub and fstab and whatnot then boot it16:17
mikubuntuikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ sudo touch /mnt/test [sudo] password for marybuntu:  sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory16:17
ikoniamikubuntu: so what else have you done16:17
mikubuntuikonia: nothing just the command you asked for16:18
ikoniamikubuntu: as that wasn't the error you got earlier and now it's having problems with /var/lib that you shouldn't have touched16:18
ikoniamikubuntu: can you do "sudo ls"16:18
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hfpEriC^^: I see, thanks16:18
hfpAlso, this is a video of what happens when 16.04 install fails: https://d.pr/i/4TsB16:19
mikubuntuikonia: sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/5: No such file or directory Desktop    DownloadsMusic  Public     Videos Documents  MIKESIGNREVISION.psPictures  Templates marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$16:19
ikoniamikubuntu: so it appears ls is working but sudo is no longer working16:20
mikubuntuikonia: that doesn't look good16:20
ikoniawhich means you have touched something as sudo was working before16:20
ikoniamikubuntu: to remove problems I suggest you do this from a livecd16:20
mikubuntuikonia: u know i double check every move with you .. lol16:20
mikubuntuikonia: not sure i understand16:21
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Guest92347Hello16:21
mikubuntuikonia: u mean we can't do the backup?16:21
mikubuntuomg16:22
FromAscalonAnyone for a quick chrome related question?16:22
__gengar__FromAscalon, don't ask to ask16:23
mikubuntuikonia: can i install the .iso to the usb and run live and backup onto the same stick?16:23
ikoniamikubuntu: ls -la /var/lib/sudo16:23
vltducasse: (in case you didn’t already read it): I got the solution to my usb re-plug problem: It’s not a udevadm trigger or scsi rescan. It’s a simple `modprobe usb_storage` :-)  Thanks for your help yesterday.16:23
ikoniamikubuntu: you can do run the media from the same USB, but thats going to be over complicated16:23
vltHello. Why can root read (and even write to) a file that has 000 permissions?16:23
ikoniavlt: because it's root with a uid 0 which is speciali16:23
ikoniaspecial16:24
__gengar__vlt because it does wha tit wants16:24
Guest92347root user is god16:24
vltOk, got it :-D16:24
ducassevlt: great :)16:24
mikubuntuikonia: ls -la /var/lib/sudo16:24
vinnie92I'm trying to install formware-atheros package but I can't find it throught apt-get16:24
FromAscalonSo. In chromium stuff works like remembering logins to sites and such. But in chrome it resets with every computer restart. Any clue why?16:24
Guest92347try rm -rf /16:24
mikubuntuikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ ls -la /var/lib/sudo ls: cannot open directory /var/lib/sudo: Permission denied16:24
vinnie92I'm trying to do this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/443842/installing-tp-link-tl-wdn4800-adapter-with-ath9k16:25
ikoniamikubuntu: sudo l s-la /var/lib/sudo16:25
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__gengar__lol16:25
mikubuntuikonia: sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/0: No such file or directory sudo: l: command not found16:26
ikoniamikubuntu: I think you made a typo "sudo ls -la /var/lib/sudo"16:26
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Guest92347anybody who knows GreatFireWall?16:27
stefan__Hi16:27
ikoniaGuest92347: depends if you're going to do more silly and problematic things like "try rm -rf /"16:27
mikubuntuikonia: sudo: unable to open /var/lib/sudo/marybuntu/0: No such file or directory total 12 drwx------  3 root root      4096 Jan 30  2016 . drwxr-xr-x 62 root root      4096 Sep 27 02:48 .. drwx------  2 root marybuntu 4096 Oct 23 09:18 marybuntu16:27
ikoniaGuest92347: before any more discussion I'd like you to read the channels guidelines and rules in the topic (the links are in the topic)16:28
ioriait's a read only fs, i think16:28
ikoniaioria: ahhh, interesting thought, not considered that16:28
iorianot sure16:28
ikoniaioria: no, it's a good suggestion16:28
ikoniaas it was working before16:28
ikoniaso something has changed16:28
ikoniamikubuntu: can you do touch /var/lib/test16:29
ioriamaybe some issue with the target16:29
ikoniaioria: don't think it's the target, if you look at that error, it's /var/lib it's complaining about16:29
ioriaoh16:29
Sirclecan anyone refer multiseatx official guide for kubuntu 16.04.1 LTS?16:30
ikoniarefer it ?16:30
Guest92347how to install and config openvpn client on ubuntu?16:31
ikoniathere is a version in the repo, there is a version built into network manager, and there is the package provided from openvpn direct16:31
ikoniaGuest92347: did you read the rules/links I asked you to ?16:32
Guest92347thank you I16:33
mikubuntuikonia: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ touch /var/lib/test touch: cannot touch ‘/var/lib/test’: Read-only file system16:33
ikoniamikubuntu: there we go16:33
ikoniaioria: 10 points, great spot16:33
ikoniamikubuntu: lets do a reboot,16:33
ioria16:33
mikubuntuikonia: reboot machine?16:34
ikoniamikubuntu: yup, unless you have a reason not to16:34
mikubuntuikonia: just hope i make it back here .. lol16:34
mikubuntuikonia: brb *i think*16:34
mikubuntu_ikonia: i'm baaaaaaack16:39
Sirclewhat is the display manager of kubuntu 16 LTS?16:40
mikubuntu_ikonia: why does freenode say i quit16:40
ikoniamikubuntu_: because you did16:41
ikoniamikubuntu_: you rebooted your host which quits freenode16:41
mikubuntu_ikonia: oh because of reboot?16:41
mikubuntu_got it16:41
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mikubuntu_ikonia: ok capitan. standing by for orders.16:42
bencevansPlease can anyone give a pointer as to why my machine isn't booting? https://postimg.org/image/z1wied661/16:44
ikoniamikubuntu_: repeat the test earlier16:46
SircleI guess no pakcage / app for multi seat eatehr16:46
Sircleeither*16:46
mikubuntu_ikonia: i lost the command because of reboot16:49
ikoniamikubuntu_: lets just try a simple test first "sudo ls -la /var/lib"16:50
vltHoly cow! I just found out that the dirty cow vulnerability also applies to files on read-only mounted file systems!16:51
mikubuntu_ikonia: hope this is good news -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370576/16:51
ikoniamikubuntu_: ok, so "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"16:52
ikoniamikubuntu_: "sudo cp -Rp /home /mnt"16:52
mikubuntu_ikonia: still no prompt showing after this output: cp: error reading ‘/home/marybuntu/.config/google-chrome/Safe Browsing Download’: Input/output error cp: failed to extend ‘/mnt/home/marybuntu/.config/google-chrome/Safe Browsing Download’: Input/output error16:55
ikonialet it run16:56
mikubuntu_ikonia: you mean me let it run?16:57
ikoniamikubuntu_: has it returned a prompt yet16:57
mikubuntu_ikonia: nope -- it whirs on and off but mostly silent, and no prompt16:57
ikoniamikubuntu_: then it's stil working, so let it run16:58
mikubuntu_ikonia: populating various errors as it runs16:58
ikoniasuch as ?16:58
mikubuntu_ikonia: brb16:59
LostSoulIn case you are interested17:02
LostSoulPromiscuous mode was not turned on...17:02
filovitchelp17:04
mikubuntu_ikonia: still no prompt17:05
mikubuntu_ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370642/17:06
mikubuntu_ikonia: still no more output, still no prompt -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23370642/17:11
ikoniamikubuntu_: thats ok - it's just your chome cache and stuff17:13
ikoniamikubuntu_: let it run, it will take a while17:13
ikoniaI have to go for a run now, should be 35 minutes,17:13
mikubuntu_ikonia: so it's just copying to usb?17:14
mikubuntu_ikonia: sure seems like a long time to copy, huh17:17
mikubuntu_ikonia: but it is at least 2 years of files17:18
mikubuntu_ikonia: not that much gigs tho -- between 3 and 4 maybe17:18
mure_is xubuntu more demanding on battery than other ubuntu based distros?17:19
mure_version 1617:20
mure_also I'm not able to start gvim for some reason17:20
Jordan_Umure_: It shouldn't be, but it's always possible that you're hitting a particular bug. For example, if some infinite loop bug is eating CPU that would certainly use more power, as could something more subtle like a process triggereing just often enough to not allow the CPU or other components to go into deeper sleep states.17:22
Jordan_Umure_: What happens when you try to start gvim?17:22
mure_noting17:22
mure_nothing*17:22
streulmawhat is a good photo manager in Ubuntu like iPhoto in OSX? Shotwell?17:22
mure_also I know that certain apps/code can make your battery go dry but I just want to pick the lightest version of ubuntu because I care a lot about battery life17:23
mikubuntu_ikonia: starting to get worried, could it really take this long?17:23
YY_BozhinskyПонятно.17:24
YY_BozhinskySorry, ppl!17:24
ioriamure_, from terminal ?17:25
mure_I ran it from my app launcher17:25
mure_also I tried vim-gtk17:26
ioriamure_, try from terminal17:26
mure_it works17:27
ioriamure_,  app icon issue then , look in /usr/share/applications/vim-* .desktop  or similar17:28
EmranEbHI every one!17:39
inrahello everyone, how can I find out the extension of a video that I'd like to download from a website?17:40
codfectionhow to use itunes in ubuntu17:40
codfectionI use iphone17:40
Jordan_Uinra: I don't understand the question. Could you rephrase it? An example video (if it's appropriate) might help explain what you're trying to do.17:41
Swierczewski_hi i'm currently trying to get ubuntu running on a Lenovo Ideapad Miix 310 10 ICR, and im having problems with wifi, sound, screentilt and turning it on/off17:41
codfectionSwierczewski_: what kernel?17:41
Swierczewski_i'm kind of a noob to this but it is ubuntu 16.0417:42
EmranEbwhos speak Persian/Farsi ?17:42
EmranEbسلام کسی اینجا فارسی بلده‌؟17:43
EmranEb:)17:43
codfection:)17:43
codfection!topic17:43
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inraJordan_U, there is some footage that I'd like to download.17:44
HydrogrowHello ! how are you today17:44
EmranEbenyone ?17:44
HydrogrowHello/17:45
EmranEbanyone Iranain ?17:45
Hydrogrowno I don't speak that sorry17:45
EmranEbdont be17:45
EmranEbim new here17:45
EmranEbjust boot it17:46
EmranEb!!!!!17:46
Jordan_Uinra: OK. How are you trying to download it? Where are you trying to download it from? What problem are you running into?17:46
inraJordan_U, I am trying to download it via wget, and I need to define the file extension to be downloaded. I try to download it from some video host.17:47
inrathe problem is I dont know where to find this extension17:47
inraI tried ctrl+u but couldnt see it17:47
Jordan_Uinra: How are you figuring out every part of the URL other than the extension?17:48
inraJordan_U, from the address bar17:49
inraso that's the page location, not the file17:49
Jordan_Uinra: How do you know that just appending a file extension to that will get you the video?17:49
inraJordan_U, I don't. I have minimal experience with wget so far. I wanted to try it17:50
mikubuntu_ikonia: wow -- command prompt17:50
inrathe command had worked with text17:50
Jordan_Uinra: If it would work with wget then it would work simply entering the same address into the browser.17:51
Jordan_Uinra: Try "youtube-dl URL_OF_PAGE" .17:51
parlasCan someone help me understand my partitions? I am looking at gparted...I have Xubuntu installed and am using it now...also have Elementary installed. Not sure what is what and want to remove elementary.17:51
Jordan_U!bootinfo | parlas17:52
ubottuparlas: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Please run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then !pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us to use to help diagnose your problem.17:52
mikubuntu_ikonia: appears to have loaded everything on stick --- thx soooOOO000OOOooo much17:52
mikubuntu_hiya Jordan_U17:52
inraJordan_U, installing youtube-dl first :)17:52
parlasI don't have a boot problem really...it boots fine. I am just trying to understand the partitioning as I am noobish.17:52
parlasDo I still need to run the bootinfo command?17:53
inraJordan_U, youtube-dl returns unsupported url error17:54
mikubuntu_ikonia: is there any way to check compatibility of my machine with lubuntu 16.04 -- i seem to remember some issue two years ago where i installed and then had no screen. i think tj or Jordan_U bailed me out but it was a real pain17:55
mikubuntu_ikonia: i guess what i'm saying is i'm askeered.17:56
parlasThis is what I see in gparted17:56
parlasOops sorry....http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png17:56
ioriainra, in my exp, it really depends on that page and how the video has been embedded17:56
parlasIs sda1 The Elementary install since it was the first?17:57
snkcldi was in the process of moving a filesystem from one location to another, but ran out of space. so i i had to control-c, delete some stuff, but now i want to resume17:57
snkcldhow do i do a mv, and have it continue where it left off?17:57
snkcldwould i just rerun the same command?17:57
Swierczewski_i sent a friend my bootlog and he says that the startup problem is with the sound and graphics card but it's a bit beyond him17:58
DinosaurioHas anybody tried canonical's kernel live patching?18:00
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parlasHow do I determine what partition is what? http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png18:01
parlasI have Xubuntu and Elementary installed...Elementary was first and I never use it.18:01
EriC^^parlas: it looks like xubuntu18:02
EriC^^it says its mounted at "/" are you in the xubuntu install?18:02
inraok, I think it is mvi format18:02
ioriaparlas, maybe sudo os-prober     can tell you18:02
parlasEirc yes I am in Xubuntu18:02
inrahow can I download a video of mvi format from a web page?18:02
parlasdoes that mean sda6 is Xubuntu?18:02
EriC^^parlas: yeah18:03
aothi, how could i make sure my perl program is kept running "on the backgorund" in ubuntu?18:03
aoteven after crashed it would be started automatically18:03
parlasEric so what is sda2? Why would Xubuntu be under it?18:03
EriC^^parlas: sda2 is an extended partition, it's like a container for other partitions18:04
ioriaparlas, it's an extended, your disk has 2 partitions: 1 primary, 1 logical18:04
parlasioria: it only output sda1 as Elementary but none of the other partitions. Is there a different command to see all partitions?18:04
parlasioria: I don't know the difference. I jsut chose default installer settings.18:04
Jordan_Uinra: It depends on how that site decides to organize their content. There is no universal answer. There's not even really even a set of common patterns.18:04
ioriaparlas, sudo parted -l   but it does not say you about OS installed18:05
EriC^^parlas: sudo parted -l18:05
parlasYeah parted l just repeated what the gparted screenshot says18:05
parlasparted -l sorry18:05
EriC^^parlas: what partitions do you mean?18:05
ioriaparlas, well, it's good because (if you use msdos PT) you can make anothe 2 partitions18:05
uebera||Dinosaurio: I installed it, but it seems like they still need to implement a feature or two: https://twitter.com/m_ueberall/status/78978235072925286518:05
Jordan_Uparlas: Please run Boot Info Scrip which will clearly tell you what OS is on each partition.18:05
parlashttp://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png shows my drive..."parted -l" just put this in terminal....no more info18:06
ioriaparlas, ^ Jordan_U18:06
parlasHow do I remove Elementary and have Xubuntu as primary install without ruining things?18:06
Dinosauriouebera||: Heh, ty18:06
parlasok looking at how to run that script...not good at this18:06
EriC^^parlas: why do you think there are other partitions?18:08
EriC^^how big is the disk?18:08
parlas250gb...I think there are other partitions because I can see them on gparted18:09
EriC^^the boot info script is a little redundant right now18:09
EriC^^parlas: gparted shows 3, sda1 and sda6 and swap18:09
parlascant seem to run bootinfo...it says "command not found" when I follow the directions above18:09
parlasI downloaded it and extracted into Downloads as per instructions18:10
EriC^^what are the partitions for?18:10
parlasok didn't see you say it was redundant...sorry18:10
parlasEriC^^: I installed Elemetary...default settings. I then installed Xubuntu...default settings. I didn't manually create any partitions18:11
parlasall is as the installers made it default18:11
mikubuntu_why would a brand new lexar usb be showing 4 mb used?18:11
EriC^^parlas: ok, so what are the partitions you are referring to?18:11
budzhey guys I am totally new to linux and ubuntu. I was planning to install 16.04 a while ago but I kept putting it off and now I am seeing 16.10 is up. i thought the new version comes out every 2 years?18:11
parlashttp://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png18:11
mikubuntu_and when i first put it in the box -- i got an error saying read-only something18:12
mikubuntu_that's never happened before with a new stick18:12
lordcirth_budz, releases come out every 6 mo, every 2 years is a Long Term Support release.18:12
BluesKajbudz, you're thinking of LTS18:12
EriC^^parlas: those are sda1 elementary, sda2 the extended partition that contains sda6 xubuntu and sda5 swap18:12
BluesKaj!LTS18:12
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1)18:12
budzlordcirth_: so do i now download and install 16.10? i had 16.04 loaded on a flash drive already18:13
parlasEriC^^: so why is Elementary all its own in sda1 but Xubuntu is nested under sda 2 along with swap?18:13
budzBluesKaj: so should i now use 16.10?18:13
parlasis that just how the installer chose or is there some reason?18:13
ikoniaparlas: show us your partition table please18:13
ikoniamikubuntu_: hows it going now ?18:13
lordcirth_budz, up to you.  Do you want the latest all the time, updating every 6mo, or do you want to install and leave it alone for 4 years?18:14
parlasikonia how? I have this http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png18:14
parlasi didnt consciously choose this arrangement...it was installer defaults18:14
mikubuntu_ikonia: all data saved on the stick, now i have a new stick trying to get the .iso on it, but when i first plugged it in it said read-only18:14
budzlordcirth_: i would prefer to have the latest all the time. but since i am a beginner would you suggest 16.04?18:14
EriC^^parlas: elementary is on a primary partition, there always has to be 1 primary partition, (you can have 4 in total) then the installer created an extended one and put xubuntu and swap in it18:14
BluesKajbudz, there' isn't alot of difference between 16.04 and 16.10 yet ...16.04 being LTS is more stable atm ...try it out for a while and then decide18:15
budzlordcirth_: i also don't understand the difference entirely. what is different if i update every 6 months compared to every two years?18:15
ioriaparlas, it's not bad, the bad is that now you want get rid of Elementary ... :þ18:15
budzBluesKaj: okay so as a beginner is it better to install 16.04?18:15
EriC^^parlas: extended is a sort of trick to get more partitions on the hdd, you can have 4 primaries or 3 primaries (or at least 1), and extended that contains many partitions18:15
aotis systemd default option in 14.04 and 12.04?18:15
mikubuntu_ikonia: i just 'cleaned' it with gparted, and need to know what kind of partition to set up for the .iso, and ONE question, is this .iso able to run live? (lub 16.04 64bit)?18:15
lordcirth_budz, well, the whole point of LTS is that you can install it, and just leave it with only minor updates, so nothing really changes.  for example companies almost always run LTS.18:16
parlasSo since I want to reclaim sda1 (elementary) space and use only Xubuntu can I do this without reinstalling?18:16
parlassince elementary is the primary partitions?18:16
BluesKajbudz, yes, that's my opinion, others may differ  :-)18:16
EriC^^parlas: yeah you can delete lubuntu and move xubuntu to the start and extend it18:17
mikubuntu_ikonia: i'm a little nervous about doing the install. the reason i hadn't done any updates to this box in so long is that when i did updates several months ago to my other laptop, it bricked, and i haven't had time to work on it (oh, ya -- that's coming after election day)18:17
parlaslubuntu?18:17
EriC^^parlas: sorry i meant elementary18:17
EriC^^:D18:17
budzlordcirth_: okay i see. so i should probably just 16.04. but just to be clear, there will be 17.04, 17.10, and then 18.04 will be the next LTS?18:17
parlasHow do I do that? And what risk for me to break everything?18:17
lordcirth_budz, yeah18:17
mikubuntu_ikonia: so i'm really really nervous about it. don't have another functioning pc at all.18:18
budzthanks BluesKaj lordcirth_18:18
EriC^^parlas: there's always a risk, how you do it is delete the elementary one first then try to move xubuntu (right click on it and choose move) and put the start of the disk18:18
parlasioria: you said it's a problem to remove Elementary...what is problem?18:18
BluesKajbudz, enjoy linux and ubuntru -)18:19
mikubuntu_ikonia: do i need to format at all to put the .iso on the new stick?18:19
parlasEriC^^: But deleting sda1 means deleting primary partition right? does sda2 somehow become primary automatically?18:19
EriC^^parlas: yeah that's true, i have no idea how gparted would handle that stuff, maybe if you move it it will fix stuff18:19
ioriaparlas,  it can be done, though18:19
EriC^^if you just delete it and save it might say it can't be done i guess18:20
parlasI am not smart enough with linux to trust "maybe"18:20
aothow can i find out what "init system" there is in my ubuntu 14.04?18:20
parlasI need a sure way18:20
Jordan_Uaot: It's upstart by default. Do you have reason to expect anything else?18:20
EriC^^parlas: no problem, try to delete it, it won't actually delete anything yet, then choose to move xubuntu and see what happens18:20
aotJordan_U: and how about 12.04?18:20
EriC^^parlas: really it's a matter of how smart gparted is18:20
Jordan_Uaot: Same.18:20
parlasEriC^^: this feels it can bork entire disk...no?18:21
EriC^^you could do the whole thing manually if you wanted, as ioria said it is technically doable18:21
parlasif it doesnt work18:21
EriC^^parlas: back up your stuff18:21
ioriaparlas,  oh, yeah Backup18:21
parlasI have data backed up but don't have means right now to back up system18:21
parlasid rather not destroy xubuntu install18:21
parlasif its a real risk I will just not do it18:21
EriC^^parlas: you could use the elementary partition on xubuntu as a mountpoint for media and other stuff if you wanted18:22
ioriaparlas,  someone uses Testdisk18:22
aotJordan_U: ok, thanks, i just have few esrvers at work and i need to set up a 24/7 running service for them (needs to be started autom. after crash), bun in upstart there should be this kind of feature. btw doesn't it mean that it's not upstart if there is path /etc/init.d/ ..18:22
EriC^^it's always a risk to play with partition stuff and backups are obviously needed18:22
ioriaparlas, and flips L tp P18:23
ioria*to18:23
EriC^^ioria: aha18:23
ioria^_^18:23
EriC^^so use testdisk to convert, then gparted to delete elementary and move it back18:23
Jordan_Uaot: No, upstart still has compatability with sysv style scripts, and in fact many (most?) services weren't ever actually updated to be native upstart services.18:23
ioriatoo messy for me18:24
parlashow do I use testdisk?18:24
SchrodingersScat!man18:24
ubottuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/18:24
ioriapass18:24
EriC^^parlas: testdisk can't actually move anything18:24
EriC^^ioria: lol18:24
EriC^^you started this18:24
EriC^^:P18:24
ioriasorry18:24
aoti thought sysv was still in use at least in 12.0418:24
parlasso nobody can say for sure how to do it for a noob then? its all "maybe" and comlicated messy risks?18:25
EriC^^parlas: anything with partitions is risky, we can't really guarantee anything18:25
EriC^^if you want an easy solution without messing anything up, use elementary as a mountpoint and when you have your backup at hand try to use gparted to see how it would go18:26
ikoniamikubuntu_: you don't setup a partition for the ISO18:26
ikoniamikubuntu_: it's a block level copy you need18:26
parlashow do I use elementary as a mountpoint? does that mean boot into it?18:27
ikoniaparlas: what are you trying to do18:27
Jordan_Uaot: Ubuntu switched to upstart in 9.10.18:27
pezdispenserHi i've struggled to find an application that lets me steam webcam to multiple sources,  like manycam would allow running in windows or mac,   does anyone know how to do this ?18:27
parlasikonia: I am trying to remove Elementary OS which is installed in sda1 here: http://i.imgur.com/IiFG1Cy.png and have sda6 Xubuntu install as primary...or maybe it should be sda2 as primary since sda6 is under it?18:28
aotJordan_U: do you see it's hard to set up a service (perl script)that is autostarted after crash?18:29
parlasso I can get that sda1 space back since I dont use Elementary18:29
ikoniaparlas: ok - so sda6 is your ubuntu drive - this is what you want18:29
EriC^^pezdispenser: obs project maybe?18:29
ikoniaparlas: the first thing you need to make sure is that ubuntu is the OS that controls grub18:29
ikoniaparlas: so re-apply grub to the MBR from ubuntu18:29
mikubuntu_ikonia: not sure i know what you mean -- so i just try to load the .iso right to the clean stick?18:29
pezdispenserEriC^^:  couldn't figure that out, seems outdated etc18:29
ikoniamikubuntu_: you have a clean stick yes ?18:29
mikubuntu_ikonia: right now it just says 'unallocated' in gparted18:30
pezdispenseryou would think this would be something you can do easily enough on linux18:30
EriC^^ikonia: maybe at the end? they want to move xubuntu to be the first partition on the disk18:30
ikoniaEriC^^: maybe, he didn't say that so I can only assume18:30
parlasI dont know how to do that18:30
EriC^^ikonia: they want to make xubuntu the only os18:30
ikoniamikubuntu_: ok so "sudo dd if=path/to/the/iso/image of=/dev/sdb"18:30
EriC^^ikonia: also they dont have backups at hand and want risk-free18:31
parlasI just want to get rid of Elementary and only use Xubunutu...but Elementary is the primary partition18:31
ikoniaEriC^^: right, so they can only do that once grub is under ubuntu control18:31
parlasI DO have data backups...not settings/system backup18:31
ikoniaparlas: the primary partition doesn't matter, once you have ubuntu controlling grub, you can delete the other partition18:31
mikubuntu_ikonia: i wouldn't know how to describe the path18:31
parlasso id rather not risk destruction if not required18:31
ikoniamikubuntu_: where is the iso18:31
EriC^^parlas: you said you couldn't have xubuntu getting messed up right now..18:31
mikubuntu_ikonia: downloads i think lemme look again18:32
mikubuntu_ikonia: /home/marybuntu/Downloads18:32
parlasIkonia it autoboots into Xubuntu...so that means ubuntu is in control right?18:32
ikoniamikubuntu_: ok so if=home/marybuntu/downloads/name-of-iso.iso18:33
ikoniaparlas: no18:33
EriC^^ikonia: yeah my point was that maybe leave that til the end, i thought they're in a live usb but they're in the actual install18:33
parlasso I need to reboot and when grub screen comes up change something?18:33
ikoniaEriC^^: lack of clear info18:33
ikoniaparlas: no,18:33
EriC^^parlas: type sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda && sudo update-grub18:33
EriC^^parlas: you can't actually do anything from the xubuntu session, you need a live usb to move the partition and whatnot18:34
parlasEriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/Zfor3nM.png18:35
EriC^^parlas: ok, do you have a live usb?18:36
parlashave but not with me atm18:36
mikubuntu_ikonia:      so ..   sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso .. ?18:36
parlasso I need to boot to live usb and then what?18:36
ikoniamikubuntu_: come on - pay attention, I gave you the exact command18:37
mikubuntu_sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso18:37
ikoniamikubuntu_: where is the of section I gave you18:37
mikubuntu_ikonia: i don't know if i'm describing it right :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso18:38
mikubuntu_ikonia: is that the entire command to copy it?18:38
ikoniamikubuntu_: where is the "of" section I told you earlier18:38
ikoniamikubuntu_: no18:38
ikoniamikubuntu_: you're not paying attention to detail18:38
ikoniamikubuntu_: where is the first command I gave you18:38
mikubuntu_ikonia: i don't know if i'm describing it right :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb ?18:40
ikoniamikubuntu_: why /image ?18:40
ikoniamikubuntu_: where has that come from ?18:40
EriC^^parlas: i already explained about gparted and stuff18:40
mikubuntu_from what you gave me :: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb18:41
ikoniamikubuntu_: I didn't give you anything with /image18:41
mikubuntu_ikonia: look back, i think you did .. lol18:41
ioriaEriC^^, can he dd his xubuntu on /dev/sda1  and reinstall grub after ?18:41
ikoniamikubuntu_: no, I didn't18:41
ikoniamikubuntu_: you want the path to the iso file18:41
mikubuntu_ikonia: clearly i have a comprehension problem with these pathways and commands, should i just use the startup disk creator?18:43
ikoniamikubuntu_: no18:43
mikubuntu_ikonia: so what part of it did i get wrong? sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/image of=/dev/sdb18:44
VN7anyone can give me some advice on deleting footer in libreoffice?18:44
EriC^^ioria: i guess so, people usually say it's a bad idea to dd a running session though18:44
ikoniamikubuntu_: you need the path to the iso file18:44
ikoniamikubuntu_: the iso file has no /image on the end18:44
ioriaEriC^^, right, no livecd at hand18:45
parlasIf I just backup my home directory it will save all settings for apps I have installed but not those apps right?18:45
EriC^^ioria: yeah, it's still a good idea though18:45
mikubuntu_ikonia: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso/ of=/dev/sdb ??18:46
EriC^^maybe just rsync the stuff over though so it doesn't take too long18:46
ikoniamikubuntu_: no /18:46
ioriayeah18:46
EriC^^then chroot from current session and done18:46
mikubuntu_ikonia: sudo dd if=/home/marybuntu/Downloads/lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb ??18:46
ikoniamikubuntu_: better18:47
mikubuntu_ikonia: but is it best?18:47
ikoniamikubuntu_: its correct18:47
mikubuntu_ikonia: i know it has to be perfect18:47
mikubuntu_lol18:47
transhuman_ok, so I have a question, where does one configure a global secondary eth0 ip address? For me this address shows up with  sudo ip addr18:47
mikubuntu_ikonia: so that's the whole copy process?18:47
ikoniatranshuman_: that would be in the interfaces files normally or the interfaces.d directory18:48
ikoniamikubuntu_: yes18:48
mikubuntu_ikonia: ok i try18:48
ikoniatranshuman_: however network manager can also have an impact18:48
transhuman_interfaces.d directory ok...let me look for that folder18:48
transhuman_network manager isnt installed18:48
ikoniatranshuman_: is this still the same problem from yesterday ?18:48
EriC^^parlas: honestly i'd just make it a extra mountpoint and call it a day until you have a live usb18:48
transhuman_yes18:48
EriC^^parlas: and yeah about your home dir18:49
parlasEriC^^: I will deal with that part later. I sm trying to figure out backups now18:49
parlasIf I backup /home it takes with it settings but not apps right?18:49
EriC^^parlas: just backup your home dir and maybe the apps list18:49
EriC^^so you dont have to reinstall them one by one or guess what you had18:49
parlaswhere is apps list?18:50
mikubuntu_ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371171/18:50
EriC^^parlas: this gets a pretty short list "comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)"18:50
ikoniamikubuntu_: your file system has gone read only again18:51
ikoniamikubuntu_: I'd suggest your hard disk is possibly failing18:51
mikubuntu_ikonia: you feel me?18:51
mikubuntu_lol18:51
parlasEriC^^:  so how do I use that list to reinstall? or its just a manual list?18:51
EriC^^parlas: just run it and put > ~/installedpackages at the end so it saves the list there18:51
mikubuntu_ikonia: but WHY does it keep doing that18:51
ikoniamikubuntu_: I'd suggest your hard disk is possibly failing18:51
EriC^^to reinstall you do xargs -a ~/installedpackages sudo apt-get -y install18:52
mikubuntu_ikonia: well that's not very good news18:52
EriC^^i think that works, when you have the list it's no problem you can figure it out later18:52
mikubuntu_i just need it to work at least another two weeks, then i can deal with the hd if thats the problem18:53
onixionhi18:53
parlascan I just copy and paste home folder to USB drive to backup or it has to be imaged or something?18:53
mikubuntu_ikonia: it's been running 24/7 for months18:54
EriC^^parlas: yeah you can copy it over, it'll lose the permissions if you have special ones you've set18:54
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EriC^^if you copy it to a ntfs or fat etc.18:54
mikubuntu_ikonia: so is there a path forward?18:54
parlasso what is best way to back things up?18:55
mikubuntu_ikonia: reboot? hammer?18:55
parlasI have data just copied to HDD....but how to best backup system?18:55
EriC^^parlas: if you dont have any special permissions then copy them to a usb18:55
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mikubuntu_ikonia: are you wore out with me18:59
mikubuntu_is there a way to call up and condense dialogue that i'm tagged in19:01
mikubuntu_to save help sessions19:02
bazhangmikubuntu_, from irc?19:02
mikubuntu_bazhang: yes19:02
lordcirth_Someone showed me something like that but I can't remember it19:03
mikubuntu_bazhang: from these sessions here19:03
bazhang!1984 | mikubuntu_19:03
ubottumikubuntu_: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meeting logs from meetingology at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/19:03
bazhanguse the find feature on your browser mikubuntu_19:03
lordcirth_Yeah, you can look through the logs for your name19:03
mikubuntu_bazhang: but i dont' want the whole logs, just sections that i experienced19:03
lordcirth_Someone showed me an IRC command that printed everything with my name in it..19:04
mikubuntu_need a script for that, from one of you smart whippersnaps19:04
bazhangcheck the html version mikubuntu_ and use the find feature with your nick19:05
mikubuntu_right now, i guess ikonia is on well deserved break, but i have to figure out how to copy this .iso to stick, and the box has gone read-only on me19:05
bazhangmikubuntu_, please ask the channel and not for just one individual19:06
ioriamikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/22/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mynick ciccio    change the day19:07
mikubuntu_i am asking the channel .. lol. all these guys have been helping me since about 9 this morning, and it's 3pm already.19:08
ioriamikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu_  ciccio19:09
mikubuntu_ioria: thx but it's greek to me19:09
ioriamikubuntu_,  just run it in terminal19:09
mikubuntu_ioria: starting with "curl ... ?19:10
ioriamikubuntu_,  yep19:10
transhuman_well looks like my /etc/network/interfaces.d is empty as well19:10
ioriamikubuntu_,  remember  that you were using mikubuntu and not mikubuntu_    so use mikubuntu19:12
ioriamikubuntu_, curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu  ciccio19:12
lost1nfoundhey guys, im having problems with 16.04's new _apt user for dropping apt-get privileges. i use certificate auth with a private apt repo, and i keep getting "error reading X.509 key or certificate file: Error while reading file."19:13
mikubuntu_its not working getting error: marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$ curl https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/10/23/%23ubuntu.txt > ciccio && grep mikubuntu_  ciccio bash: ciccio: Read-only file system marybuntu@marybuntu-NV59C:~$19:13
nysobuntuhi there, is there no way to make use of my AMD 8870M in my Samsung Notebook? Cause "Additional Drivers" doesn't show anything19:13
lost1nfoundso, i added an ssl-cert group and made _apt the only member of it, and gave group ownership of all of /etc/ssl to _apt. but that still didnt help19:13
ioriamikubuntu_, it's not working for another reason, i'am afraid19:13
ikoniamikubuntu_: just reboot your box again19:14
ikoniamikubuntu_: just be aware it's possible your hard disk is failing19:14
nysobuntuahh ubuntu 16.1019:14
mikubuntu_ikonia: ok19:14
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mikubuntu_ikonia: i'm going to lose the whole command again when i reboot ... argh19:20
yao_ziyuanin ubuntu 16.10, when i remove files from a mobile hard disk in nautilus, the removed files won't show up in the Trash can.19:20
lordcirth_yao_ziyuan, removeable drives don't use the Trash, I think.19:20
yao_ziyuanso i resort to dolphin, but dolphin lacks icons for files and folders. which package will install kde icons?19:20
yao_ziyuanlordcirth_: they used to in previous ubuntu versions.19:21
snkcldis it possibel to resize a corestorage volume with gparted?19:21
yao_ziyuanit seems dolphin would store files from a mobile hard disk in Trash (of course, KDE's Trash).19:22
yao_ziyuanmaybe ubuntu 16.10's Nautilus is premature.19:23
parlasis there a channel for general linux?19:23
SuperSeriousCat##linux19:23
SuperSeriousCatWell hidden19:24
ioriayao_ziyuan, look on your usb device if there is a  .Trash-1000 folder19:24
yao_ziyuanioria: yes19:24
ioriayao_ziyuan, that should be your trash19:25
yao_ziyuanioria: but how do i access it graphically?19:25
parlasI cant seem to speak on ##linux19:25
ioriayao_ziyuan,  make hidden visible ctrl +H19:25
parlasit says "cannot send"...does it require registration or something?19:25
ioriaparlas, you need to register19:25
parlasugh19:25
ioria!register19:25
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode19:25
yao_ziyuanioria: but they won't show up in THE Trash, right?19:25
master_gihi19:25
parlasnot interested in registering anywhere.....figures19:26
ioriayao_ziyuan,  idk19:26
ninguif I want a couple commands to run at system startup, can I put them in /etc/rc.local?19:26
ninguthis is a temporary debugging measure19:26
ioriaparlas, registering on Freenode is GOOD !19:26
parlasi prefer anonymity and not having to give emails etc19:27
ioriaok19:27
ikoniathen you pay the price for that and can't use the channel19:27
parlasright...why I said ugh19:27
mikubuntuikonia: back, and going in for the kill19:28
yao_ziyuanwhat's the package that provides KDE system icons?19:28
yao_ziyuani think i'd go with Dolphin for now.19:28
mikubuntugeeeeesh -- what now? :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371346/19:32
lost1nfoundanyone know anything about getting ssl client auth working with apt-get in 16.04?19:33
ioriamikubuntu, your disk is gone19:33
lordcirth_mikubuntu, 'dmesg | tail -n 30 ' to see the error better19:34
lordcirth_But probably your disk is dead, yeah19:34
yao_ziyuanwhat's a good file manager besides nautilus and dolphin?19:35
daeheehi19:35
MonkeyDustyao_ziyuan  find any filemanager in the softwarecenter, find out which suits your needs19:36
lordcirth_yao_ziyuan, thunar is nice.19:36
ioriayao_ziyuan,   you can try pcmanfm19:36
mikubuntulordcirth_: lemme try19:36
yao_ziyuanusers of ubuntu 16.10, when you remove a file from a mobile hard disk, does it show up in your Trash?19:37
yao_ziyuanif not, i think this is a serious regression.19:37
mikubuntulordcirth_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23371381/19:38
ioriamikubuntu,  Remounting filesystem read-only19:38
lordcirth_mikubuntu, "Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed" - drive's toast19:38
ioriamikubuntu, there is a reason why it remount ro, and for avoiding other damage19:39
mikubuntuioria: lordcirth_ why does it work at all? how am i on here?19:39
ioriamikubuntu,  a philosophical question ?19:40
mikubuntuioria: no, i mean like, why is the box working at all if the drive is fried?19:40
lordcirth_mikubuntu, because drives frequently don't fail all at once. Get any data you need off of it, if you haven't already, then get a new one.19:40
ioriamikubuntu,  try to save a file19:41
lordcirth_mikubuntu, enough of it is failed that it's causing problems.  The problems will get worse and then it won't boot anymore.  Backup first19:41
mikubuntujust did, was working on it all day long from 9a - 3p by the time we got it19:41
ioriamikubuntu,  but not now19:41
rolontlossBash on windows = <319:42
Yiotarolontloss yup19:43
Yiotajust got the subsystem19:43
rolontlossI am using xming to output xserver with xchat19:43
mikubuntuok i've got a 500 gb drive that i've used 3% of in 2 years -- would it make sense to get a much smaller solid state drive? does ssd play nice with lubuntu?19:43
lordcirth_Note that support for Ubuntu on Windows is not on-topic here.19:43
lordcirth_mikubuntu, SSD's are amazing19:43
lordcirth_Double-check the model you're going to buy, but it should work fine.19:44
rolontlossgomen19:44
rolontlossIs there #ubuntu-chat?19:44
mikubuntulordcirth_: i can't afford much, but i've seen smaller ones pretty cheap online -- would you trust them?19:44
lordcirth_rolontloss, #ubuntu-offtopic19:44
ioriamikubuntu,  ssd are very good , but not necessary19:45
lordcirth_mikubuntu, look up reviews.  However, you should never trust any 1 drive to never fail.  Always have backups.19:45
mikubuntuyes of course that makes sense19:45
ubuntutt19:45
kastorjooj?19:46
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mikubuntui wonder if i can keep this working long enough to get my other box running. it failed right after an update several months ago.19:46
Guest45745okk19:46
ioriamikubuntu,  nope, ext4 is very sensible (permis, etc.) maybe you can use that disk as ntfs store, but i'am against that19:48
daeheeif im using linux 3.15 on ubuntu12.04, what happens if I update with 'distro update'?, does the kernel downgraded?19:49
MishariSalam ubuntuers19:55
MonkeyDustdaehee  try with -s     for simulate, see what happens19:55
sarekWhat are the numbers for '-rw-r--r--'?20:05
sarek644?20:05
lordcirth_sarek, correct.20:06
sarekthanks20:06
ouroumov_sarek, yes20:06
lordcirth_4 is read, write 2, exec 120:06
Theotophi all !20:09
Theotopsomebodyu can help me install composer on ubuntu ?20:10
SchrodingersScat!info composer20:11
lordcirth_Theotop, composer for php?20:11
ubottucomposer (source: composer): dependency manager for PHP. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.3-1 (yakkety), package size 279 kB, installed size 1665 kB20:12
Theotopye sfor php ;)20:12
SchrodingersScatsudo apt install composer20:12
Theotopno it's not working that way :)20:13
Theotop:)20:13
SchrodingersScatTheotop: would you like to elaborate?20:15
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Theotopi'd like to tst laravel20:19
SchrodingersScat!info laravel20:19
ubottuPackage laravel does not exist in yakkety20:19
junaidnaseer2has anyone ever tried connecting to some BBS from the PCManX software from Ubuntu?20:24
Theotopi've found a solution guys when moving the file to bin directory20:24
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MonkeyDust!info pcmanx-gtk220:27
ubottupcmanx-gtk2 (source: pcmanx-gtk2): user-friendly telnet client mainly targets BBS users. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-1 (yakkety), package size 272 kB, installed size 1513 kB20:27
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SchrodingersScatUptime: 102 days(!)  #htop added the (!), should I be concerned?20:33
SchrodingersScator is htop really excited for me?20:33
SpecSchrodingersScat: you should be concerned20:33
Specbecause it implies you are running a 102 day-old security-hole-ridden kernel and associated packages20:34
SchrodingersScatI may reboot then...20:34
rocket__hi20:34
rocket__i have a problem with ubuntu under virtual box20:34
rocket__in windows 1020:34
rocket__i can't install it20:35
SchrodingersScatSpec: I'll do a quick backup then risk it.20:35
SchrodingersScatrocket__: what seems to be the issue?20:35
rocket__hard to say it seems that virtual box is not working right20:35
rocket__last issue was a kernel panic20:35
rocket__other issues were that the installation has not finished20:36
rocket__it seems to be a problem with the virtual hard disk20:36
lordcirth_rocket__, has Virtualbox thrown any errors?20:37
rocket__no20:37
SchrodingersScatYou went through the install wizard for the vhd? is your real hdd ok?20:37
rocket__the errors are in ubuntu20:37
rocket__yes no the hdd is ok20:38
rocket__its new20:38
rocket__i went through the wizard20:38
lordcirth_What version of Ubuntu and Vbox?20:38
SchrodingersScatwhat exactly does it mention about the disk?20:38
rocket__newest20:39
rocket__version20:39
rocket__i tried ubuntu and ubuntu20:39
rocket__xubnuntu20:39
rocket__xubuntu20:39
rocket__both are failing20:39
lordcirth_16.10?20:39
willpwrlul20:39
lordcirth_Well yeah, they aren't that different20:39
rocket__yes20:39
SchrodingersScatrocket__: so you're mounting the iso as a livecd in virtualbox? are you sure the iso is good?20:40
Gourlaycould someone explain why I must reboot to get my wifi and time to work?20:40
rocket__i have both iso files from the official sites20:40
rocket__i could try an older version20:41
lordcirth_rocket__, did you see any error messages?20:41
rocket__yes20:41
SchrodingersScatcan you give us the full line if available? can use a pastebin site if it's multi line20:42
SchrodingersScatSpec: ok, rebooting, It's been a while, I'm scared, hold me?20:42
rocket__yes one moment20:42
rocket__https://www.google.at/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=kernel+panic+-+not+syncing+vfs+unable+to+mount+root+fs+on+unknown-block(0+0)&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=0yANWOaQO-Pa8AfVsqugAg20:43
rocket__kernel panic - not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0 0)20:43
rocket__sorry20:43
rocket__and one time it was installing20:43
rocket__and after install it only booted into grub20:43
rocket__terminal line20:44
rocket__pretty strange20:44
Bray90820tomreyn: You around?20:46
Bray90820It turned out my bios was the latest20:47
rocket__so any idea?20:47
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SchrodingersScatSpec: it worked, htop is appeased for now.20:49
Guest74860how to configure google talk call on ubuntu20:49
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Bray90820Guest74860: Google talk doesn't exist anymore it's been changed to hangouts20:50
patadasAlHigadoanyone with 16.20? working well? I am thinking about updating it20:50
Bray90820patadasAlHigado: Did you mean 16.1020:51
EriC^^rocket__: did you checksum the isos20:51
EriC^^?20:51
rocket__no20:52
patadasAlHigadoyes, 16.1020:52
EriC^^did you use torrent20:52
EriC^^?20:52
rocket__EriC^^: no20:52
SchrodingersScatpatadasAlHigado: I haven't seen many complaints, I may upgrade today myself.20:52
Bray90820In my opinion it works much better than 16,04 unless your using it on a surface20:52
rocket__EriC^^: i used http download20:52
Bray90820patadasAlHigado:20:52
EriC^^!checksum | rocket__20:52
ubotturocket__: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM20:52
SchrodingersScat!backups | patadasAlHigado20:52
ubottupatadasAlHigado: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning20:52
mjjmhi20:53
obo_Hello I have a question about boot.img (GRUB2)20:53
obo_ I am trying to find this binary on my system with dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr bs=512 skip=N20:53
obo_But no matter the value of N20:53
obo_the MD5 value differ20:53
obo_What I am doing wrong ?20:54
EriC^^obo_: for starters 512 is the whole mbr20:55
EriC^^including the partition table20:55
mjjmI look find french irc, how do I do?20:55
SchrodingersScat!fr | mjjm20:55
EriC^^mjjm: /join #ubuntu-fr20:55
ubottumjjm: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.20:55
hfpHi, I'm struggling with NFS permissions... I have an export that belongs to nobody:nogroup. When I `sudo -u nobody touch foo` from the NFS server, i works fine. If i go on a client and `touch foo`, I have permission denied. I can however read files that belong to nobody:nogroup from the client. What am I missing? How to configure NFS properly to get id of non matching UID/GID?20:56
rocket__EriC^^: ok, i have downloaded 2 different iso20:56
rocket__xubuntu and ubuntu20:56
obo_EriC^^: but the boot.img is 51220:56
SchrodingersScatrocket__: and you checksumed them?20:56
rocket__don't think both of them are damaged20:56
rocket__no i didn't20:56
mjjmok thank you I m trying20:56
EriC^^obo_: what's your end goal20:56
obo_Just understand GRUB20:57
EriC^^obo_: i'd read the arch wiki20:57
rocket__EriC^^: why should i checksum them i downloaded it from the official site20:58
SchrodingersScatto make certain that the download went smoothly20:58
EriC^^it's like checking you have fuel before starting to test other stuff in a car20:59
EriC^^just common sense20:59
rocket__ok but i don't think thats the issue21:00
rocket__rather its my pc21:00
rocket__and virtualization doesn't work right21:00
rocket__or its vbox21:00
EriC^^it's very easy to check..21:00
rocket__and windows 1021:00
rocket__which i suspect21:00
rocket__i will checksum it21:00
SchrodingersScatI run a xubuntu vm in win10, my hardware is pretty basic though21:01
rocket__i have some i521:01
EriC^^rocket__: run a smart test for the hdd21:01
rocket__ok21:01
rocket__i think the hdd is ok21:01
rocket__i haven't had any problems so far21:01
EriC^^my money's on it's dying21:02
rocket__its 2 weeks old21:02
NircoHi! Can someone help me to install Ubunto in a Laptop with Nvidia GTX?21:02
SchrodingersScatnot all hdd truly liv21:02
EriC^^lol21:02
rocket__EriC^^: its 2 weeks old and its an ssd21:02
EriC^^well really it's either a bad hdd or bad iso (almost certainly one of them)21:02
rocket__ok21:03
SchrodingersScathave you reseated the ram?21:03
EriC^^and i've seen that error many times with people who put a good iso on a bad usb21:03
rocket__no i haven't SchrodingersScat the whole computer is brand new21:04
rocket__about 2 weeks old21:04
ELQEYNNHi everybody. I'm disenchanted with SuSE. I heard that there is good support given for ubuntu.21:05
dishwasheron irc?21:05
ELQEYNNon irc or other places21:05
ELQEYNNDoes ubuntu use  GNOME-3 ?21:06
dishwasheryeah it's better than other distros21:06
ELQEYNNin what way is it better?21:06
ELQEYNNeasier to use?21:06
dishwasherno, I mean the support21:06
ppfthe distros are all the same21:06
ppfyou can install gnome-3 on ubuntu21:06
ELQEYNNWhere do you find the support?21:07
ppfhere21:07
SchrodingersScat!gnome | ELQEYNN21:07
ubottuELQEYNN: GNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome21:07
SchrodingersScat!ubuntu-gnome21:07
ubottuUbuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage21:07
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ELQEYNNI heard that there is a window manager called cinnamon, which is not most poular.21:08
SchrodingersScat!mate21:08
ubottuUbuntu MATE is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses MATE as the default desktop environment. It functions similarly to older versions of GNOME. For more information, see https://ubuntu-mate.org/21:08
neytiridoes anyone know why my gui crashes when i have both my graphcs cards enabled and running 2 monitors a peace (crashes at login)21:08
SchrodingersScat!cinnamon21:08
ELQEYNNWhat is cinnamon, then?21:09
nicomachus!bot abuse > SchrodingersScat21:09
ubottuSchrodingersScat, please see my private message21:09
SchrodingersScatthat seemed relevant, but ok21:10
lordcirth_ELQEYNN, cinnamon is a DE similar to MATE, meant to succeed it.21:10
nicomachus:D21:10
nicomachus<3 you SchrodingersScat21:10
SchrodingersScatlordcirth_: how did that go? is cinnamon in the land of wind and ghosts?21:10
dishwasherisn't it the DE you get with Mint21:10
dishwasherthey started it i think21:11
ELQEYNNCan you use the   software developed for the KDE project? or the GNOME project, with MATE or  cinnamon?21:11
SchrodingersScatnicomachus: :)21:11
nicomachusdishwasher: yes.21:11
Ben64ELQEYNN: yes21:11
SchrodingersScatoh, it's in repos21:11
ELQEYNNIs there a chess game for ubuntu?21:11
Ben64yes21:12
ELQEYNNWhat kind of email package is used for ubuntu?21:12
nicomachus!info dreamchess > ELQEYNN21:12
Ben64kind?21:12
lordcirth_ELQEYNN, whatever you like.  I think Evolution is default.21:12
nicomachusthunderbird, isn't it?21:13
Ben64theres web browsers, and standalone email clients21:13
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ELQEYNNAnd the web browser?21:13
tr1f3anybody ever had problems connecting to efnet21:13
lordcirth_ELQEYNN, firefox by default, like most21:13
ppf!help > ppf21:13
ubottuppf, please see my private message21:13
ppfTIL21:14
ELQEYNNIs Opera available?21:14
lordcirth_ppf, if you're going to send to yourself, why not query?21:14
nicomachusI'm curious what he learned.21:14
nicomachusELQEYNN: yes.21:14
ppfnicomachus: the > operator21:14
nicomachusah21:14
ppf:)21:14
nicomachusyea it's useful for not clogging the channel with long factoids.21:15
ppfya21:15
nicomachuseven better is /msg ubottu !factoid21:15
ppfif i were to factoid myself, sure21:15
ELQEYNNIs the Opera browser available for ubuntu?21:15
SchrodingersScatELQEYNN: yes21:15
ppfELQEYNN: yes21:15
ppfthough vivalde is more like the future (tm)21:16
ELQEYNNvivalde?21:16
ppfvivaldi21:16
lordcirth_Vivaldi seems nice, but no tree-style tabs yet :)21:16
ELQEYNNIs that another browser?21:16
ELQEYNNWhat about LibreOffice?21:16
ELQEYNNWhat kind of package management system?21:17
ppfELQEYNN: you can get every software on ubuntu21:17
ppfand if you can't there's an equivalent21:17
ppfubuntus package manager is apt21:17
nicomachusyea... idk about EVERY software. haha21:17
dishwasherlordcirth_: do you use a firefox extension for that?21:17
nicomachusbut most. and a lot more that you CAN'T get on windows or mac.21:17
Ben64coming from suse, probably have everything on ubuntu as well. especially the big stuff21:18
ELQEYNNHow does the package manager work?21:18
ppf!apt21:19
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)21:19
lordcirth_dishwasher, yes, it's literally called 'tree style tabs' and it's great21:19
nicomachusI can 2nd that21:19
ELQEYNNdishwasher?21:19
nicomachuschromium has them too.21:19
dishwasherELQEYNN: ?21:19
lordcirth_I was using tab groups, but this is better21:19
ELQEYNNchromium, the browser?21:20
nicomachusI like the firefox add-on better than the chrome extension, though.21:20
nicomachusyes, ELQEYNN21:20
dishwasheroh wow it's nice21:21
dishwasheri tried one before but it was just a proof of concept21:22
ArrghusELQEYNN: Ubuntu Software Center is a graphical interface to a searchable database of commonly used ubuntu software, complete with descriptions and reviews and stuff. Makes it easy to install things for people not willing to get their hands dirty with terminal nonsense.21:22
nicomachusbasically, an app store.21:23
ArrghusBasically an app store, yeah.21:24
porcupine97can anyone tell me the current status of ubuntu touch? I heard the project was stopped, but I keep getting references to it while browsing around21:24
ArrghusBut with less 'store' and more 'free stuff'. Not all free, but more free.21:24
nicomachusmostly free.21:25
nicomachusporcupine97: #ubuntu-touch21:25
porcupine97nicomachus, tks21:25
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insydoes anyone know a theme for ubuntu 16.05 that can make the menubars etc like seethrough glasslike21:28
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insymeant 16.0421:28
nicomachusinsy: maybe try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/224865/how-to-change-menu-opacity#22929221:29
unknowre21:31
raymondilloHi all. Can anyone give me a definitive pointer (url) to enabling the hibernate function on 16.04. I have googled a couple of hours and tried 3 or 4 suggestions, with no joy so far. I'm on a Dell Inspiron 15 3558. It's a fresh install. Thanks Ray.21:32
anonymous_hello21:33
unknow:D21:33
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anonymous_ufff, real people xD21:33
nicomachusraymondillo: can you please open a terminal and run "sudo pm-hibernate" and let me know what the output says?21:34
unknow^^21:34
anonymous_please, anyone of you could help me?21:34
porcupine97raymondillo, I think you will have to mess with ACPI/APIC stuff - it depends on your BIOS setup21:34
EriC^^anonymous_: ask21:34
nicomachusporcupine97: nah, not really.21:35
anonymous_i am trying to force xchat work through tor network...21:35
nicomachusraymondillo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/768136/how-can-i-hibernate-on-ubuntu-16-04#81989121:35
nicomachusisn't xchat dead?21:35
anonymous_using it right now...21:36
nicomachusyea but it's not being updated is it?21:36
porcupine97nicomachus, xchat...21:36
raymondillonicomachus: Thanks but no output at all. I had tried that. I have 8GB Ram and a large enough swap space.21:36
jatt!info xchat21:36
ubottuPackage xchat does not exist in yakkety21:36
jatt!info xchat-gnome21:36
ubottuPackage xchat-gnome does not exist in yakkety21:36
jattdammit21:36
nicomachusheh. do NOT google xchat...21:36
rocket__now it works EriC^^21:36
rocket__i took another version21:36
anonymous_xchat-gnome, sorry21:37
rocket__16.10 instead of 16.421:37
porcupine97nicomachus, I know bitchx is :)21:37
nicomachusyea, no updates since 2010 for xchat. the new fork is Hexchat21:37
EriC^^rocket__: cool21:37
rocket__i have to say i dont like the unity look21:37
DFarmerTXHexchat works like a champ, for m.21:37
DFarmerTXe21:37
rocket__why do i have to register to download software21:37
nicomachusrocket__: then use a different DE. That's the gloriousness of linux.21:37
rocket__i can do it from the terminal21:37
nicomachusand you don't have to register...21:37
anonymous_okay, so I have instaled hexchat too...21:37
rocket__i will21:37
porcupine97wow! mine is from 2010! lol21:38
rocket__i liked xcfe21:38
rocket__i will install it21:38
nicomachusanonymous_: then ask in #hexchat about torifying it21:38
anonymous_never used irc, how to go #hexchat21:38
nicomachustype "/join #hexchat"21:38
`{^v^}click on #hexchat <-21:39
anonymous_thanks you guys21:39
techno2900_hello ! I would like to know how can I know if a PPA is totally free (without contrib and non free)21:39
nicomachustechno2900_: gotta check their release site.21:39
techno2900_but I don't know the release site21:39
techno2900_I know it's avcon21:39
techno2900_or something like that21:40
nicomachusavcon is non-free, because it has plugins for MP3 and other filetypes that are non-free.21:40
techno2900_okay21:40
nicomachusmp3, mp4, etc.21:40
techno2900_so a alternative to avcon exist ?21:40
techno2900_or not?21:40
raymondillonicomachus: I had tried your above url but hadn't noticed that bit  at the end after the btrfs section. Off for some more reading. Thanks.21:41
techno2900_because I use youtube-dl and without avcon, I have no video only the sound21:41
nicomachustechno2900_: It's free as in there's no cost, but it's not free as in freedom.21:41
inrahello everyone, I didn't run any update but firefox popped up a notice out of the blue, saying that I should restart firefox to apply updates???!21:41
techno2900_i know21:41
`{^v^}MP# is now part of the public domain21:41
`{^v^}MP321:41
techno2900_but a alternative to avcon exist ?21:41
nicomachustechno2900_: and since you're downloading from YouTube, you're already non-free. might as well use avconv21:42
techno2900_okay but it's the name of program, i don't download from youtube21:42
`{^v^}VLC can do a lot of what avconv does21:43
techno2900_i can but I notadeveloper21:43
techno2900_sorry keyboard21:43
techno2900_i don't download from youtube21:43
`{^v^}what are you wantng to do with it?21:43
nicomachustechno2900_: check the manpage from youtube-dl and make sure you're downloading hte correct formats. MKV is good for video.21:44
techno2900_download french tv video (im a canadian)21:44
techno2900_okay21:44
nicomachusmkv is also open/free.21:44
techno2900_or I convert mp4 to mkv21:44
techno2900_but for my problem of avcon with youtube-dl ?21:44
rocket__it always wants me to connect to ubuntu121:45
rocket__i should register21:45
nicomachusrocket__: what version of ubuntu? I thought UbuntuOne was dead...21:45
rocket__16.1021:45
rocket__64bit21:45
rocket__when i trz to install21:46
snkcldwhen i installed dnsmasq, it looks like my /etc/resolv.conf is automatically set to use 127.0.0.1, and my dhcp resolver is no longer in there21:46
rocket__i cant21:46
rocket__it wants me to register21:46
snkcldhow do i get it so that the original /etc/resolv.conf settings are back?21:46
techno2900_for avcon I make what ?21:46
rocket__it says to install and remove snaps you need ubuntu121:47
rocket__ubuntu single sign on21:48
rocket__account21:48
rocket__man arrgg21:48
rocket__thats like spam21:48
patadasAlHigadois ubuntu phone still alive?21:49
nicomachuspatadasAlHigado: yes. #ubuntu-touch21:49
patadasAlHigadoare new terminals going to appear?21:49
techno2900_nicomachus: so for avcon, a solution exist ?21:49
nicomachustechno2900_: not that I can find.21:50
techno2900_nicomachus : okay thank you for your help :)21:50
sashptaHey can someone pls help me with my vpn ?21:51
nicomachus!details | sashpta21:51
ubottusashpta: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.21:51
rocket__but well doesnt look that bad21:52
sashptai got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location :S21:52
jespersonHey guys, do you know of any specific teamspeak channel? Or might it be fine for me to ask my question here?21:53
nicomachus!alis > jesperson21:53
ubottujesperson, please see my private message21:53
insy@ nicomachus  tnx for the idea but it seems not doable that way21:53
techno2900_nicomachus  : oh and I have one last question. ffmpeg is free or not ?21:54
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nicomachustechno2900_: same as avconv21:55
nicomachusubuntu used avconv for a few releases, then went back to ffmpeg. They do the same thing.21:55
techno2900_okay thanks21:55
kk4ewttechno2900_, no it is not free21:56
techno2900_kk4ewt : do you know a alternative ?21:56
insyas it seems , to customize the opacity of it, you need to customize the theme.21:56
kk4ewtogg or flac21:57
kk4ewthttp://www.webopedia.com/TERM/M/MPEG.html21:57
dishwashertechno2900_: what are you trying to do?21:59
nicomachusdishwasher: he's trying to find a free/free audio converter to use with youtube-dl21:59
dishwashernicomachus: to which format though?21:59
rocket__nicomachus, works all fine now22:00
jespersonThere doesn't seem to be any more specific than #teamspeak and there's only 1 guy in there22:00
nicomachusidk. I told him to just download it as .mkv22:00
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rocket__i dont use the software center22:00
nicomachusme neither.22:00
rocket__ubuntu looks not bad22:00
rocket__now i have windows and using ubuntu in a vm22:01
nicomachusrocket__: there's a reason it's the most popular linux distro for new users ATM22:01
rocket__when i have much more time i will have linux and windows in a vm22:01
rocket__i wanted to use arch linux later22:01
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bit101Arch is great fun to mess with and great for learning22:02
bit101but at some point you just want a system that works without constant tweaking22:02
dishwasherbut the AUR22:03
dishwasherit was so annoying honestly22:03
sashpta i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location and real ip :/22:04
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nightwalkerkgIs it possible to use compiz manager in Ubuntu 16.10 ?22:10
insynot sure but i cannot find a way to change the opacity for menus etc22:11
nightwalkerkgI am trying to remove the shadow from the unity launcher22:12
nightwalkerkgAnd customize it.22:12
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insyu meant that uber tiny line22:14
nightwalkerkginsy: yes but also there is a shadow on top near the top and on the right side.22:15
insyi got so only have that tily lil line my lacher at the bottom22:17
rocket__is there a lot of bloatware in ubuntu22:17
rocket__they have some amazon app preinstalled22:17
tyrogrocket__: What do you consider bloatware? It's very user-dependant22:19
unknowxxx22:19
rocket__lol and there it goes22:20
rocket__ubuntu has experienced an internal error22:21
unknowyep22:21
unknow:D22:21
rocket__i hope i can reboot22:21
rocket__otherwise i have done all this work for nothing22:21
dishwasherlibreoffice is bloatware22:21
dishwasherit parses docx22:21
bit101when i install ubuntu, i remove libreoffice, thunderbird and all the games. frees up a bunch of space22:22
bit101the games don't take up much, but i'll never use them22:23
bit101libre and thunderbird are large though. i get rid of them right off22:23
rocket__webcontainer crashed22:23
rocket__what does that mean?22:23
rocket__browser?22:23
dishwasherrocket__: was the browser open?22:24
rocket__yes22:25
rocket__was open22:25
dishwasheroh22:25
dishwasherthen I have no idea22:26
dishwasheryour setup seems a bit broken22:26
dishwasherthough22:26
sashpta i got ubuntu 16.04, and nordVPN, i used nordvpns tutorial for the vpn setup but somehow google and some other sites can still find my location :S22:27
rocket__the software center sucks22:29
rocket__it doesnt work at all22:29
Caluser2000Install synaptic.22:30
rocket__ok i do22:31
rocket__Caluser2000, yes that one is far better22:32
step1step2is there any way to access a fat32 partition on Ubuntu? the partition has to be fat32 cause of mac os. I've tried using a symbolic link on windows but it didn't work out. I'm running windows if you might wonder22:36
kk4ewtmount it22:36
weedbox722:38
step1step2http://i.imgur.com/dam1N9S.png22:39
Caleb--hi22:40
Caleb--i have just installed an nvidia gtx 1070 graphics card and i'm experiencing some slowness with ubuntu. previously i was using an intel igpu22:40
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Caleb--using the proprietary nvidia drivers22:41
Caleb--system startup and shutdown have become slower22:41
Caleb--and when having many chrome tabs open, the whole of unity becomes sluggish22:41
th0rstep1step2, check if that hostname is in /etc/hosts, and if it shows as response to 'hostname'22:41
Caleb--does this sound familiar to anyone?22:41
Bashing-omCaleb--: What version driver did you install and from where ?22:42
th0rstep1step2, bash.exe?22:44
step1step2th0r: http://i.imgur.com/dxzC4mX.png https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/about22:44
step1step2it works like a vm afaik22:45
th0rstep1step2, but it isn't ubuntu, why are you asking here?22:45
step1step2because I'm using zsh22:46
Caleb--Bashing-om, i installed nvidia-370 from the graphics-drivers PPA. Also tried nvidia-367 and nouveau.22:46
needssomehelphey everyone. I was planning to sell a hard disk but I then read that people can retrieve my files from it even if I have formatted it. Is there some way to prevent that?22:46
th0rneedssomehelp, wipe it22:46
needssomehelpth0r, what do you mean?22:47
th0rneedssomehelp, sudo apt install wipe && man wipe22:47
Caleb--Bashing-om, i wonder if i need to make any changes after moving from the intel igpu. i only disabled it in the BIOS.22:47
Bashing-omCaleb--: Great . that is all I know to do . That is the end of my skill set .22:47
Caleb--:-(22:48
MaimsterAnyone use Acronis? I was wondering does Linux have a way to read the *.tib files?22:48
Bashing-omCaleb--: Hybrid graphics ? or just added the Nvidia card ?22:48
Caleb--Bashing-om, just added the nvidia card.22:48
MaimsterIt isn't a life or death thing, just nosey.22:48
needssomehelpok thanks th0r i will try that!22:49
Bashing-omCaleb--: I would read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, see what X has to say .22:49
Caleb--Bashing-om, shutdown takes suspiciously longer now, and the ubuntu logo appears different from how it was when i had the intel. also, i cannot hit ESC or TAB to see shutdown progress/logs.22:49
Ben64needssomehelp: in reality, all you need to do is "dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=<hard drive device>"22:51
needssomehelpBen64, could you please explain to me what the bs=1M parameter does?22:53
zoraelIs pepperflashplugin-nonfree broken in 16.10 multiverse? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23372126/22:53
needssomehelpor in general the command's structure22:54
Ben64needssomehelp: from "man dd" bs=BYTES              read and write up to BYTES bytes at a time22:54
needssomehelpBen64, ok. Why do you think 1M bytes at a time is a good option?22:56
th0rneedssomehelp, if you are writing small files and set bs=1M, each file will tie up 1MB on the drive.22:56
th0rneedssomehelp, on the other hand, if you are writing files that are 1GB each, a bs of 1M will speed things up considerably22:56
needssomehelpth0r, 1G?22:57
Ben64needssomehelp: writes 1MB at a time, good for most drives22:57
th0rneedssomehelp, large files22:57
needssomehelpoh ok22:57
porcupine97Ben64, I was reading your posts: if=/dev/random is more effective than /dev/zero?23:06
Ben64porcupine97: no23:08
lee1Question about Acer Aspire 4520 i'm on ubuntu 16.04.1 and on kernel 4.4.0-43 and using a nvidia geforce 7000 series with the drivers 304.131. So my issue is it doesn't recognize my wifi (meaning I can't select no SSID as if it doesn't detect a wireless device) as well as my sound there none. Any help?23:08
Caleb--Bashing-om, this is the reason why the ubuntu splash screen is in low-resolution: http://www.binarytides.com/ubuntu-fix-nvidia-graphics/23:08
Bashing-omCaleb--: reading .23:09
Bashing-omCaleb--: valid instructions .. but are they effective in your situation ?23:12
Caleb--Bashing-om, i will try them out soon23:15
Caleb--i was just going through the systemd journal in search of potential problems, and some nvidia warnings led me to that page23:16
bumbumzumzumMy disk's partition table is full, so I don't have room to add one for Ubuntu. Any guidance?23:19
Ben64remove something23:20
Bashing-omCaleb--: As the authod says, only tested in 14.04 (upstart) . I see no issue with the grub edit ( I use it myself ) .. but making up /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/splash and expecting systemd to use it; maybe a horse of a different color .23:20
bumbumzumzumWell, those partitions contain factory installed software, so I'm reluctant to remove them. For example, Windows 7 restore is on one, HP utilities is on another.23:21
bumbumzumzumI thought Wubi might be an option, but from what I've read it is unmaintained. Are there other options?23:22
Ben64get a new drive?23:22
bumbumzumzumI'm not thrilled with the idea of swapping hard drives every time I want to boot Windows though ...23:23
Ben64why would you have to swap23:24
petisnnakeHello, I'm trying to start 2 uwsgi's on system boot, so in rc.local I've put:  sudo uwsgi --ini /home/myuser/Projects/schedule/uwsgi.ini --chmod-socket=666, followed by sudo uwsgi --ini /home/myuser/Projects/schedule_staging/uwsgi.ini --chmod-socket=666 one line below. Problem is that only the first call creates a socket. Any ideas why?23:24
bumbumzumzumBecause the computer is an HP notebook and only has one hard disk in it.23:24
Ben64well you have to pick an option23:24
Jordan_Ubumbumzumzum: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".23:25
petisnnakeIf I swap the order, the first call creates the socket properly and the second doesnt23:25
ShayBoxanyone know why my /home is randomly un-mounting or disabling read/write access...?23:26
ShayBoxits a seperate HDD mounted as /home23:26
grymaybe hard drive failure, start with backing things up23:27
gryis it a usb23:27
ShayBoxnah, 128gb ssd as / and 1tb hdd as /home23:27
bigpreshThat in no way precludes impending drive failure.23:28
bigpreshAnything interesting in syslog/dmesg when it happens?23:28
lordcirth_ShayBox, look at 'dmesg' output when it fails23:28
ShayBoxBoth Sata II (6)23:28
lordcirth_'-o remount,ro' is the standard response to a critical filesystem failure23:29
ShayBoxalright, its not failed right now, it just happens randomly and kde will close because of it23:29
bumbumzumzumJordan_U: https://paste.ubuntu.com/2337222423:29
Ben64ShayBox: that happens when there's a problem23:30
ShayBoxsmartctl shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/23372239/ right now23:33
ShayBoxany of that bad?23:33
rocket__hmm how to speed up graphics in virtual box?23:35
lordcirth_ShayBox, nothing obvious23:35
lordcirth_rocket__, there's a checkbox for 3D accel23:35
rocket__ok23:36
rocket__3d23:36
lordcirth_Other than that, I usually use light DE's or WM's in Vbox23:36
rocket__#ubuntu23:37
rocket__re23:37
rocket__works well23:37
rocket__thanks23:37
rocket__now im done23:37
rocket__nice i like ubuntu23:37
rocket__the design looks good23:37
rocket__virtual spaces23:40
rocket__dont work23:40
rocket__really23:40
rocket__will deactivate them23:40
rocket__seems to be pretty buggy23:40
Ben64do you have a support question?23:40
rocket__it hangs23:40
rocket__Ben64, i think its some vm stuff23:44
rocket__it hangs sometimes23:44
bumbumzumzumBen64: I appreciate that I may end up forced to delete a partition. I just want to know what other options exist before I resort to something so extreme.23:47
Ben64bum23:47
Ben64bumbumzumzum: extreme?23:47
bumbumzumzumDeleting Windows or the utility software installed at the factory would qualify as "extreme" IMHO, yes.23:48
rocket__another question23:49
rocket__is it hard to use qemu and gpu pass on nvidia23:49
Ben64bumbumzumzum: could back up the 4th partition and then delete23:49
bumbumzumzumBen64: Why would you have me delete /dev/sda4 instead of one of the partitions adjacent to the largest partition?23:53
bumbumzumzumBen64: I don't think 100MB is enough space for an Ubuntu install.23:55
Ben64you can resize the other stuff23:56
gryuse a disk usage analyzer to remove files you don't need23:57
grywindirstat for windows, ncdu for linux23:57
bumbumzumzumgry:  That doesn't solve the problem of the partition table being full.23:57
Bashing-ombumbumzumzum: Reason why there is that 4 primary partition limit : https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .23:58
gryoh, sorry, I didn't know of that limit :) thanks for the link23:58
DFarmerTXWait, can't you just put all of Ubuntu under a single extended partition?23:58
bumbumzumzumDFarmerTX: I don't have room in the partition table for an extended partition. I'd have to delete a primary partition first.23:59

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