| tpanarch1st | hello, i'm having an absolute nightmare with Linux Mint's upgrader and I have a broken system and there seems to be very little support or knowledge. I appreciate Ubuntu's close relationship to Mint, 1. Are the problems with upgrading Linux Mint widely known amongst the Ubuntu Community? 2. Please could somebody point me in the right direction of getting this upgraded or 3. Please could somebody warn me if it just gets worse and worse (and then | 00:14 |
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| tpanarch1st | i'll seriously entertain jumping directly to Ubuntu) | 00:14 |
| sarnold | tpanarch1st: while there's certainly some overlap in packages between mint and ubuntu they've changed so much that it's pretty hard to give any good advice for mint. | 00:20 |
| sarnold | tpanarch1st: my all-purpose troubleshooting is to look for the logs in a variety of places: dmesg, journalctl, syslog, /var/log/, stderr, stdout, other virtual consoles.. | 00:20 |
| sarnold | tpanarch1st: and try to figure out what's unique about your system vs the usual 'average' case | 00:21 |
| tpanarch1st | thanks sarnold - the problem immediately in front of me is that the mint upgrader tool (presumably based on an Ubuntu Upgrader tool) tries to create a timeshift backup, then decides that it needs to fix timeshift backups and then hanfs | 00:21 |
| tpanarch1st | hangs** | 00:22 |
| sarnold | tpanarch1st: heh, I don't think I've even heard of timeshift before .. if their updated is based on ubuntu's, it's diverged a fair bit :) | 00:23 |
| sarnold | I think the only place for mint help is their web forums https://forums.linuxmint.com/ | 00:23 |
| tpanarch1st | sounds like I need to rethink my distro choice! | 00:25 |
| sarnold | well, there's a lot that goes into selecting your distro | 00:25 |
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| irategrump79 | Hello, I'm new to Linux as a whole, and I have a few questions. The first would be about AMD drivers; I'm coming from Windows, and I'm used to having to manually install them. As far as I can tell, there seems to be some sort of kernel driver on Ubuntu that was automatically put in use? I'm using Ubuntu 24.04.1, and the GPU is a "Sapphire Radeon HD | 01:38 |
| irategrump79 | 6950", which is from 2010, so I'm wondering if I need to do anything specific in case this kernel driver thing is too modern. | 01:38 |
| toddc | irategrump79: you are all set done | 01:40 |
| toddc | AMD drivers are opensourced so they can be included with a basic install and are --- lastest stable anyways so you should be ready | 01:41 |
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| irategrump79 | Oh, alright. I'm honestly surprised they're still actively supporting hardware this old. Thank you. | 01:42 |
| toddc | some hardware has been dropped IE 32bit but generaly old is supported | 01:45 |
| irategrump79 | The next thing I guess I wanted to ask would be about general performance. So far, things do appear to be running rather well once they're actually open and running, but I do have significant loading times when opening them. Whilst I understand it can be easily blamed on my old hardware, I didn't have these load times on Windows 7; things were | 01:47 |
| irategrump79 | snappy and I rarely had to wait. Is this just the difference in trying to run modern software on old hardware? Or is there something I can do about it? | 01:47 |
| irategrump79 | I have an "Intel Core2 Quad Q9650", and the HDD is a Western Digital SATA II from 2012 or so? | 01:48 |
| brutex | Problem: 1: This request will break your system! nothing provides the requested 'glibc' Have you enabled all the required repositories? | 01:49 |
| brutex | and etc. | 01:49 |
| brutex | when i try to download it and install it with sh scripting | 01:49 |
| brutex | in fedora it'sa libcompatx32 or something and runs thi is on ubuntu i have not been in pc 6 years healthy problems, who can helps | 01:49 |
| brutex | Problem: 2: nothing provides '/bin/sh' needed by the to be installed metasploit-framework-6.4.55~20250326102723~1rapid7-1.el6.x86_64 | 01:50 |
| toddc | irategrump79: with out diving into details and testing I guess compared to windows 7 it would be modern software things have grown but still nuch faster than compared to windows 11 | 01:50 |
| brutex | Solution 1: ignore the warning of a broken system (requires:glibc) | 01:50 |
| irategrump79 | Well, I did try installing Windows 10, and Windows 11 on this prior to Ubuntu. Unfortunately, neither made it past boot, and were in an infinite crash boot-loop. So, I was kind of forced to learn Ubuntu since support for Windows 7 keeps being dropped by everything. Thank you for helping me toddc, I guess I'll just have to learn to get used to the | 01:57 |
| irategrump79 | slower loading times. | 01:57 |
| Vecchio | irategrump79, out of curiosity, have you tried other distributions other than Ubuntu? | 01:58 |
| leftyfb | brutex: please start by explaining what release of ubuntu you're running, the kernel you're on and what software you are trying to install or what command you ran to get the output from "Problem: 1" | 01:59 |
| irategrump79 | Yeah Vecchio, I tried Xbuntu, and Lubuntu. For some reason though, neither of them were able to detect the Ethernet driver(?) so I couldn't even access the internet to download it to resolve it. | 01:59 |
| irategrump79 | Ubuntu works like a charm, though. | 02:00 |
| Vecchio | irategrump79, well thos are still ubuntu with different DE's | 02:00 |
| Vecchio | irategrump79, ok :) | 02:00 |
| brutex | leftyfb: yes, Ubuntu 25.04 custom compiled kernel worked perfectly like original 6.14.4 on default kernel it's the same error, and i am trying to install metasploit-framework i am running, curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/rapid7/metasploit-omnibus/master/config/templates/metasploit-framework-wrappers/msfupdate.erb > msfinstall && chmod 755 msfinstall && ./msfinstall and i got these errors | 02:01 |
| brutex | its some missed library | 02:02 |
| brutex | connected with glibc | 02:02 |
| leftyfb | brutex: feel free to contact Rapid7 for support | 02:02 |
| brutex | where is that | 02:02 |
| leftyfb | brutex: you're running a "custom compiled kernel" and messing with metasploit from Rapid7 and don't know how to find Rapid7 support methods? | 02:03 |
| brutex | which channels are | 02:04 |
| Vecchio | https://www.rapid7.com/for-customers/ | 02:04 |
| leftyfb | brutex: Rapid7 doesn't provide support on IRC | 02:05 |
| Vecchio | oi https://help.rapid7.com/metasploit/Content/home-page/join-irc-channel.html | 02:07 |
| abdul | hi, i am trying to install my vpn via terminal, but no luck\ | 02:36 |
| abdul | can anybody give some advice? | 02:36 |
| abdul | i can give the comman i tried while using the terminal | 02:37 |
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| BOB432Ill | hello | 02:57 |
| BOB432Ill | what is [ECB] on hexchat | 02:58 |
| lolok | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cipher_Block_Chaining#Electronic_codebook_.28ECB.29 | 04:12 |
| wolf73 | hi | 06:25 |
| wolf73 | anyone? | 06:25 |
| CosmicDJ | wolf73: depends | 06:34 |
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| itai | Is there a command line tool to check grammar? I have aspell for orthograph. But, I wasn't able to find anything for grammar checks. | 10:05 |
| moo3 | not that i know of. you might want to use ai for that. | 10:06 |
| itai | moo3: thnaks | 10:21 |
| tomreyn | there's https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool | 10:21 |
| tomreyn | which provides a "commandline" and a "server" mode | 10:21 |
| itai | languagetool send the text to their server I guess. | 10:22 |
| moo3 | looks like its a set of rules actually - https://dev.languagetool.org/development-overview | 10:35 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:29 |
| moo3 | hi BluesKaj | 11:32 |
| nomicon | hi | 11:35 |
| BluesKaj | hi moo3 | 11:51 |
| moo3 | hi BluesKaj do you have a question? | 11:56 |
| BluesKaj | no, do you? :-) | 11:58 |
| moo3 | i dont, thanks. | 12:00 |
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| stef64 | Hello! I have a problem with setting at-boot kernel parameters on a hardware level encrypted laptop running ubuntu 25. after editing /etc/default/grub, I tried running sudo update-grub, but it said that no such command was found. I installed grub2-common package and ran update-grub, after which my aystem wouldn't boot at all. I reinstalled ubuntu | 13:52 |
| stef64 | with hardware level encryption and I tried setting params from the grub menu (pressing esc repeatedly at boot, holding left shift did not work), but the entry to boot normally has no "linux" line to which I can add parameters. I am quite lost, since I installed ubuntu without hardware level encryption before and had none of these issues, I don't | 13:52 |
| stef64 | understand why or how the installations differ. | 13:52 |
| tomreyn | stef64: by "hardware level encryption", are you referring to OPAL (disk firmware based) disk encryption, or TPM-backed software-based disk encryption? the latter is an option on the desktop installer. | 14:00 |
| stef64 | tpm-backed | 14:01 |
| stef64 | thank you for answering! | 14:01 |
| stef64 | and hello again :)))) | 14:01 |
| tomreyn | hi again! | 14:01 |
| tomreyn | i think the tpm-backed disk encryption uses systemd-boot as a bootloader, not grub | 14:01 |
| tomreyn | which is probably why you didn't have the command installed | 14:02 |
| stef64 | ah I read something about that, but I was not sure | 14:02 |
| stef64 | Then I will go and read up on that and come back if I hit another wall | 14:02 |
| tomreyn | i guess i pointed you to outdated docs which don't take this option into account, yet | 14:02 |
| stef64 | you did? what do you mean | 14:03 |
| tomreyn | !cmdline | 14:03 |
| ubottu | To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters | 14:03 |
| tomreyn | this wiki page doesn't discuss systemd-boot, because this was only introduced later | 14:03 |
| stef64 | wait are you the guy who answered my bug report? | 14:03 |
| tomreyn | i don't think so, no, but i think i pointed you to this url yesterday | 14:04 |
| stef64 | nono, you didn't. Yesterday I was running ubuntu without any encryption | 14:04 |
| stef64 | Just to test things out, but now I want to install it with tpm backed encrypt. I'll read up on systemd-boot and come back | 14:05 |
| stef64 | Thank you! | 14:05 |
| tomreyn | https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2025/04/30/%23ubuntu.html#t23:09 is where i pointed you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters | 14:08 |
| tomreyn | anyways, it won't apply like this if you're using TPM-backed disk encryption due to that using systemd-boot, not grub | 14:09 |
| nikolam | Why installing (X)Ubuntu on Btrfs subvolume ( /@ ) and home ( /@home ) is removed from (X)Ubuntu installer ? | 14:09 |
| tomreyn | i don't know how to modify the kernel cmdline during boot when using systemd-boot | 14:10 |
| nikolam | I am on 22.04 and I am thinking of installing 24.04 and now this. | 14:10 |
| stef64 | I do have one question, I seem to barely find documentation about systemd-boot, does an older version of ubuntu perhaps use grub2 for tpm-backed encryption booting? Is that an option? | 14:10 |
| ogra | the TPM based encryption uses grub2 | 14:11 |
| tomreyn | nikolam: #xubuntu might be a better place to ask about decisions taken by the xubuntu developers. if you take a guess, it might be due to the "new" desktop installer, not providing full feature parity to the old one. | 14:11 |
| tomreyn | ogra: oh, thanks for correcting me there | 14:11 |
| ogra | but it comes from Ubuntu Core so it also uses a snap based kernel which you can not modify (not even the cmdline) by design | 14:11 |
| ogra | since it was designed originally for unattended IoT devices that you want 100% tinkerproof | 14:12 |
| stef64 | how could I set a kernel parameter then? Is it possible? | 14:12 |
| nikolam | tomreyn, Do you maybe know if newer iterations of the "new" desktop installer, in releases after 24.04 include feature parity with having subvolumes on Btrfs during install ? | 14:14 |
| tomreyn | stef64: if i'm getting ogra right then he's saying you cannot modify the kernel commandline, neither during boot, or while preparing to do the next boot, while using TPM based disk encryption. | 14:14 |
| tomreyn | at least not in the way it is currentl ydesigned/implemented | 14:15 |
| ogra | yes | 14:15 |
| stef64 | haha I suppose it's experimental for a reason | 14:15 |
| ogra | the cmdline lives in the gadget snap which you can not easily re-build or replace | 14:15 |
| ogra | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/full-disk-encryption/19871 | 14:15 |
| stef64 | Alright, I'll try other encryption methods. Thank you! | 14:15 |
| ogra | here is a design description of how it was implemented on Ubuntu Core | 14:16 |
| tomreyn | nikolam: i'm afraid i do not know. you cuold use the server installer, though, which is more flexible. | 14:16 |
| ogra | the desktop variant is supposed to be enhanced to allow such stuff but it is still not there yet | 14:16 |
| ogra | (will likely be ready in 26.04 LTS) | 14:16 |
| ogra | this is also why the installer still marks it "experimental" | 14:16 |
| tomreyn | "ubuntu core" being an alternative ubuntu distribution than "ubuntu desktop" | 14:17 |
| ogra | right | 14:17 |
| stef64 | I see. Then I'll be eagerly waiting for 26 LTS! | 14:17 |
| ogra | in todays implementation you can also not install nvidia drivers easily ... due to the kernel being a snap (and thus read-only) | 14:18 |
| tomreyn | stef64: if you'll use dmcrypt-LUKS software-based disk encryption, you'll be able to modify the kernel cmdline | 14:18 |
| stef64 | ah, I did try that and it failed. I understand why now | 14:18 |
| stef64 | tomreyn Ok! Perfect | 14:19 |
| esv | hey folks, I am using an UGreen 9-1 docking station with Ubuntu 24.04 with the latest patches, but the wired network adapter is just kicking my rear end. Upon reboot, the adapter gets an IP address from the dhcp server but I can't connect anywhere, only when I switch to wireless I can proceed to connect anywhere. | 14:20 |
| esv | here is some troubleshooting info I've collected: https://bpa.st/L36A | 14:20 |
| esv | I am using X11 on my Gnome desktop, sometimes it takes 2,3 reboots to work successfully and it is usually when I experience a 3-5 minute delay when logging in for the 1st time after reboot. | 14:23 |
| tomreyn | "ip-config -> failed (reason 'ip-config-unavailable', sys-iface-state: 'managed')" seems to indicate that no dhcp response / lease was received before timeout. if you're saying it works occasionally but not always then i'm guessing that your dhcp server is just slow. | 14:26 |
| tomreyn | "a 3-5 minute delay when logging in for the 1st time after reboot" also sounds like it should not be happening, and might be an indication that it's actually your own system causing the dhcp timeout. | 14:27 |
| esv | strange enough is the same one for the wireless one, also, it gets an IP. | 14:27 |
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| esv | I believe there is a bug when using X11 that causes the delay. | 14:28 |
| esv | the delay's been happening since 20.04 | 14:29 |
| tomreyn | yes, good point about it not happening for wireless. if you can connect the docking station to a different (usb?) connector, give that a try. | 14:29 |
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| esv | let's try | 14:35 |
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| esv | that did it. interesting. | 14:44 |
| esv | thanks for the suggestion, guess now I need to find out about the usb port. | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | nice | 14:48 |
| plainduck67 | HELLO | 15:26 |
| plainduck67 | DOES ANYBODY USE THIS | 15:26 |
| lotuspsychje | yes | 15:26 |
| plainduck67 | cool | 15:26 |
| lotuspsychje | !ask | plainduck67 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | plainduck67: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 15:26 |
| tomreyn | cps lock? no, i don't use caps lock | 15:26 |
| plainduck67 | what do yall chat about | 15:27 |
| tomreyn | ubuntu support, exclusively on *this* channel. but there are many others, ask alis | 15:27 |
| plainduck67 | hel;o???????????????? | 15:27 |
| tomreyn | !alis | 15:27 |
| ubottu | Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http» | 15:27 |
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| tacomaster | I have a few questions about snap firefox and password managers. I was reading in ubuntu 22.04 there was a way to get some of them to work. The only ones I saw required stopping a lot of the protections and also turning off apparmor for firefox snap. Is this still required in ubuntu 25.04 and does anyone have a recommendation that will connect to | 17:36 |
| tacomaster | snap version of firefox with out much issues? | 17:36 |
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| tacomaster | Nvm I think I found the answer in this omg ubuntu forum saying now I just need the right version of keypassxc and run a sudo snap connect command | 18:02 |
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| laine | hello, I have Ubuntu 24.04 installed on my Lenovo laptop, and I'm getting the white screen of death ("oh no...contact a system administrator" etc.) I am able to get into the command line and wonder if anyone can help me troubleshoot. when I searched online for support options, after failing to make any progress with forum posts, I was suggested to contact this channel. | 19:17 |
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| irategrump79 | Hello, would anyone in here happen to have experience with playing RuneScape on Ubuntu 24.04.1? I'm attempting to figure out what (if anything) I can do to mitigate my extremely severe performance issues. RuneScape does not officially support Linux in any form, and instead just links people off to various GitHub repositories. So far, I've only | 19:42 |
| irategrump79 | tried two things - through Steam via Proton, and through the `USA-RedDragon/jagex-launcher-linux-flatpak` GitHub repository. Steam was much worse performance-wise but stable, whereas the Flatpak has inconsistent spikes of very high CPU usage that turns it into a slideshow until closed and reopened. | 19:42 |
| irategrump79 | My hardware is to blame for this for the most part, which is an Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 and an AMD Radeon HD 6950. | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | !wine | irategrump79 | 19:43 |
| ubottu | irategrump79: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | irategrump79: you'll need to seek support from the game developer or the 3rd party maintainer of of the packages | 19:44 |
| leftyfb | irategrump79: this is an issue if trying to shoe-horn a game to work in an unsupported environment. Not really an Ubuntu support issue | 19:45 |
| tomreyn | laine: reboot, hit escape after a few seconds to bring up the grub menu, select "Advanced" and select the 2nd highest numbered record without parentheses, this should boot ubuntu with the previous kernel image. this may also fail, but there is a chance it won't. | 19:46 |
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| tomreyn | laine: if this also fails with the white screen, repeat the process until you reach the "Advanced" menu and select the topmost "(recovery mode)" option. this should boot to a text menu where you can choose from further recovery options. | 19:48 |
| irategrump79 | Well, thank you for the response, leftyfb. Unfortunately, the game developer does not offer support for Linux users. The third-party maintainers of the Linux RuneScape launcher prefer use of Discord for contact, which isn't an option for me. Would the Wine IRC channel you linked in that bot command be somewhere I could request help? | 19:49 |
| tomreyn | laine: once you reach the recovery menu, try the "clean", "dpkg" and "fsck" options, then "resume". if you run into the same issue again, repeat again till you reach the recovery menu, then select the "grub" option and, once it's done, press ctrl-alt-del to reboot. | 19:51 |
| tomreyn | irclogs | laine: you can re-read these suggestions here later | 19:51 |
| tomreyn | !irclogs | laine: you can re-read these suggestions here later | 19:51 |
| ubottu | laine: you can re-read these suggestions here later: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ | 19:51 |
| tomreyn | laine: i will be gone, soon, so make sure you point someone else to these suggestions in case you'll try then and then need further support - so they'll know what has already been tried. | 19:52 |
| tomreyn | i meant to write: in case you try *this* and then... | 19:53 |
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| Glen | hi everyone. I wish to develop mobile anonymous chat app that utilizes IRC network. Is there already such App available out there? | 20:09 |
| leftyfb | Glen: not that I know. I'm not sure why you would bother when others already exist that don't rely on irc | 20:12 |
| tomreyn | Glen: i'm afraid this channel is limited to ubuntu support (see /topic), so unless you're meaning to run unmodified ubuntu on a mobile device which is capable of this, you'll be better off looking for a more suitable forum elsewhere. | 20:13 |
| Glen | @tomreyn sorry | 20:15 |
| laine | thanks tomreyn ! | 20:16 |
| tomreyn | Glen: no worries | 20:16 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome laine, good luck | 20:16 |
| leftyfb | Glen: please do not PM | 20:17 |
| tomreyn | !alis | Glen | 20:18 |
| ubottu | Glen: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see «/msg Alis help list» or ask in #libera - Example usage: «/msg Alis list http» | 20:18 |
| laine | tomreyn: I tried hitting escape but just got some information about my system. | 20:18 |
| laine | I'm able to log into the system using the terminal, can't I do something from there? I'm e.g. looking at system logs | 20:18 |
| tomreyn | laine: this was too early then. you need to wait until the system has completed the power-on self-test. it's not easy to time it right. | 20:19 |
| tomreyn | laine: yes, you can try to debug it from a terminal. the approach i discussed above should help you cover the most common root causes. | 20:20 |
| laine | oops, I mean I pressed "shift" during startup I believe... sorry I'm not so experienced! :} | 20:22 |
| laine | I meant to say I.pressed shift during startup and got to a menu where I ran a hardware check. everything passed | 20:23 |
| laine | (sorry, I'm on my phone, it's tricky to type and read) | 20:23 |
| laine | oh, I got grub! I timed the escape press successfully | 20:24 |
| tomreyn | laine: i'm sorry, i have to leave it there for now, for the night. if you'll be looking for more support later, i recommend to also discuss whether this is a new installation, whether you introduced any changes which may have caused the graphical desktop to start up properly (which is why you got the white screen initially). this could be related to graphics drivers, to running things as root without good guidance amongst other. | 20:29 |
| vlt | Hello. What tool can I use to read QR codes (like zbar-tools) but that will tell me more about the code itself? Where in the analysed image is the code? What version (size) and error correction level was used or a dump of the raw bits, for example? | 20:32 |
| laine | the previous kernel image boot failed. in topmost recovery mode I did clean, dpkg, and fsck (which had to abort at some point). then I resumed normal boot, and it's stuck on a black screen (fan running, etc) | 20:33 |
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| laine | thanks tomreyn , I appreciate it! | 20:33 |
| laine | good news! after REISUBing from that black screen, I'm back in to the graphical user interface and everything looks good! | 20:37 |
| laine | thanks, this is great! I'm so glad you guys are on here! ubuntu is great! | 20:38 |
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| Guest10 | sudo iptables -I INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT | 21:53 |
| Guest10 | sudo iptables -P INPUT DROP | 21:53 |
| Guest10 | is this valid? | 21:53 |
| Guest10 | btw I not use ubuntu anymore I switched to a niche linux not even arch or gentoo or nixos... lol I am on a os which is called like a hot drink. mocaccinoos | 21:54 |
| Guest10 | xd | 21:54 |
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| irategrump79 | Hello again, I'm following up on the problem I asked for help with earlier about RuneScape performance. (Just in case anyone else happens to come in here with a similar issue, in the future.) There is another third-party launcher called "Bolt Launcher", found at the GitHub repository `adamcake/Bolt`, which has acceptably resolved my performance | 23:28 |
| irategrump79 | complaints. I do still get an intermittent near-hang, but it resolves itself in around ten seconds. This is a significant improvement, as before on the other Flatpak I would have to close and re-open every single time it started happening. | 23:28 |
| sarnold | I wonder what the launcher is doing? o_O | 23:35 |
| Deihmos | what is the purpose of ubuntu live patch? I thought it could update the kernel without a reboot. I see there is a kernel update but I am sure it will require a reboot | 23:44 |
| sarnold | Deihmos: livepatches don't upgrade the entire kernel, they just address specific security flaws | 23:45 |
| sarnold | Deihmos: some companies care so much about uptime of their computers that they'd rather livepatch specific problems to reduce their risks without requiring the reboot to get the fixes | 23:46 |
| Deihmos | linux-generic/noble-updates 6.8.0-59.61 amd64 [upgradable from: 6.8.0-58.60] | 23:47 |
| Deihmos | aren't all stable updates security patches | 23:47 |
| sarnold | pretty much | 23:48 |
| sarnold | once upon a time we would release kernelupdates without security fixes | 23:48 |
| sarnold | or, maybe better said, without *known* security fixes | 23:48 |
| sarnold | but people have been putting way more effort into finding and fixing security issues, and the upstream kernel community now labels basically all fixes "security" fixes because they want to be petulant about it ;) | 23:48 |
| sarnold | so now every kernel update comes with security fixes, and we try to livepatch a lot of them | 23:49 |
| Deihmos | ok thanks | 23:50 |
| Deihmos | Strange, I did the update but no reboot is required. | 23:52 |
| sarnold | did you actually get new kernel packages installed? | 23:53 |
| Deihmos | it did install. On Debian it says a reboot is required. I believe a reboot is also required but no notification | 23:54 |
| sarnold | we've got so many different pieces of the puzzle that I don't nkow what exactly I would expect to see | 23:55 |
| Deihmos | and it reboots automatically based on a set time in unattended upgrades | 23:56 |
| sarnold | I found all those things so obnoxious I've disabled osme of them, and since I run a weird X11 config without all the usual stuff, I don't even know what the notifications should look like in the desktop | 23:56 |
| Bashing-om | Deihmos: My check: ' ls -al /var/run/reboot-required ' | 23:58 |
| Deihmos | was just about to check | 23:58 |
| Deihmos | No reboot needed | 23:59 |
| Deihmos | so how do I begin using the new kernel if a reboot isn't required | 23:59 |
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