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Artimus	Tonren: You know nothing about Microsoft	00:00
Artimus	At all	00:00
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Schuenemann	bug free? ha ha ha...	00:00
Schuenemann	typical FUD going on	00:00
Artimus	Ever hear someone apologize for Vista? "Can I burn a DVD in Nero on your box?" "No, Vista doesn't work with Nero yet...". You release a product that's good enough to not drive your customers away. If it's easier for them to stick with your software than switch to someone else's, you keep them as a customer.	00:01
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BluesKaj	Balmer is threatening the open source community with lawsuits again...c'mon steve put yer money where yer mouth is !	00:02
Schuenemann_away	jack balmer?	00:02
Tonren	Artimus: Look, I'm not saying that closed source is inherently superior or any nonsense like that. I'm just saying that open & closed source both have their own pros and cons.	00:02
ardchoille	!ot	00:02
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	00:02
BluesKaj	steve balmer	00:04
BluesKaj	MS head honcho	00:04
Artimus	BluesKaj: This isn't Kubuntu related, ardchoille is correct... Discussion should be taken to #kubuntu-offtopic	00:04
Artimus	Although I'm not seeing a whole lot of questions at the moment. Someone ask something...	00:05
BluesKaj	oops ...my apologies...got carried away :)	00:05
ardchoille	The absence of support questions is irrelevent, ot is ot.	00:06
BluesKaj	geez, it's christmas....	00:06
hydrogen	christianity is off topic	00:07
hydrogen	.	00:07
paperfunk	haha	00:08
BluesKaj	Jesus would use linux...absolutely !	00:08
paperfunk	there is no one in kubuntu offtopic	00:08
paperfunk	jesus is open source	00:08
hydrogen	and what in the world does that have to do with kubuntu support?	00:09
hydrogen	unless you want help installing jesus on your machine	00:09
hagabaka	how do I do that?	00:10
Tonren	"Bless this thy kernel, father"	00:10
BluesKaj	tried the opera bowser but it's not doing java sites too well, and I've done all the tutorial stuff that's relavent ...i think	00:11
numpy	LOL	00:11
BluesKaj	java-heavy	00:11
Artimus	ardchoille: Correct, it is offtopic. But I hate seeing a dead channel. In abscence of OT, someone should ask something to give us something to do...	00:12
numpy	..install Jesus	00:12
numpy	haha	00:12
numpy	sorry.. that was great	00:12
BluesKaj	until the flashplugin is fixed for firefox I 'm not bothering with it ... konq is the one for now	00:12
paperfunk	how do you toggle to a terminal?	00:12
paperfunk	like complete terminal mode, not in x	00:13
numpy	cntl-alt Fx paperfunk	00:13
paperfunk	doesnt work	00:13
ardchoille	paperfunk: ctrl+alt+f1	00:13
BluesKaj	ctrl+alt+F2	00:13
Artimus	I'm guessing that worked	00:13
Artimus	So, did you guys think to tell him how to get BACK?	00:14
BluesKaj	f2 works fer me	00:14
BluesKaj	he din't ask	00:14
Artimus	...	00:14
Artimus	I hope he at least tries "Ctrl+Alt+Del" instead of using the power button...	00:14
ardchoille	Artimus: I didn't think of that, I'll have to remember that in the future	00:14
Artimus	His filesystem shouldn't have to suffer...	00:14
hydrogen	chvt 7	00:14
numpy	yeah good point	00:14
hydrogen	chvt 1	00:15
Artimus	hydrogen: I get more satisfaction from using the keys, personally	00:15
BluesKaj	paperfunk, to get back to the desktop ,ctrl+alt+F7	00:15
hydrogen	apparently you need to be root to do that however	00:15
hydrogen	thats kind of unexpected..	00:15
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ueila	hii	00:16
Artimus	hydrogen: X runs as root... You're messing with the box, not just your "session"	00:16
hydrogen	right	00:16
hydrogen	but its still unexpected	00:16
hydrogen	that you need root	00:16
hydrogen	to change between virtual terminals	00:16
BluesKaj	I assume paperfunk is using a terminal/TTY irc client like irssi	00:16
ardchoille	hydrogen: You don't need to be root to change tty's	00:17
numpy	welp looks like paperfunk got lost..	00:17
hydrogen	ardchoille: yes, you do	00:17
hydrogen	try it	00:17
hydrogen	chvt 1	00:17
hydrogen	as a user	00:17
ardchoille	hydrogen: Just tried it works fine as a user.	00:17
hydrogen	ardchoille: how did you try it?	00:17
hydrogen	you tried chvt or the keys?	00:17
ardchoille	ctrl+alt+f1	00:17
Artimus	I get "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console"	00:17
hydrogen	right	00:18
Artimus	...	00:18
hydrogen	ardchoille: thats because the x server runs as root	00:18
Artimus	ardchoille: That's run as root	00:18
ardchoille	That's word play. Any normal user can switch tty's	00:18
Artimus	BluesKaj: If someone can't switch virtual terminals, there's a low chance they'd use irssi...	00:18
hydrogen	no	00:18
hydrogen	users can't switch ttys	00:18
hydrogen	you need root privledges	00:18
Artimus	ardchoille: No. Anyone sitting at a keyboard can	00:18
BluesKaj	hmm my Xserver sucks ..it flickers like mad	00:18
hydrogen	to switch between virtual terminals	00:19
hydrogen	and I'm surprised at that	00:19
BluesKaj	on the TTY that is	00:19
hydrogen	but it doesn't change the fact	00:19
hydrogen	that you do	00:19
Artimus	BluesKaj: Gutsy, I'm guessing?	00:19
BluesKaj	yup	00:19
Artimus	I've had some issues with it too...	00:19
Artimus	Can't remember what I did, probably some ugly hack to fix it...	00:20
Artimus	Well, editing files. Kind of ugly in the sense of "not user friendly, I wouldn't want to share this as practical advice"	00:20
BluesKaj	Artimus, well what did you do, just for curiosity's sake	00:21
TuxMan	I'm Back! that was some gooood homemade chili	00:21
Artimus	BluesKaj: I think I set vga=normal when I boot... I tried another value, but there's ANOTHER Gutsy bug when setting vga= that will cause blank tty's	00:22
TuxMan	dinner is always yummy at my house :-P	00:22
Artimus	I turned off the splash and quiet in grub as well..	00:22
BluesKaj	ok, NM :)	00:22
Artimus	yeah...	00:22
Artimus	Pretty ugly	00:22
BluesKaj	splash and quiet eh ..hmm , gonna check	00:22
Artimus	Gets rid of the pretty Kubuntu boot screen, though	00:23
Artimus	Have to on my laptop... 333mhz, oh yeah...	00:23
Artimus	Anyway, I've heard of a new kernel feature that lets you only give certain root priviledges to programs. So, ping won't have to be suid root anymore... Hopefully that'll help out X as well...	00:23
hydrogen	interesting	00:24
Artimus	Right now, all of ping runs as root because it needs one little root feature. So now, it will only get permission to do that.	00:25
ardchoille	Artimus: Isn't that similar to what apparmor does?	00:25
BluesKaj	checking this out	00:26
Artimus	no idea	00:26
Artimus	I've got it from the mailing lists, let me look...	00:26
TuxMan	... I HATE compiling QT	00:26
TuxMan	weighing down my comp for hours now	00:26
Artimus	yup	00:26
Artimus	"Removing SUID on binaries that don't need it"	00:26
Artimus	https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2007-October/thread.html	00:28
TuxMan	Ooo	00:28
TuxMan	<><	00:29
TuxMan	ah! paperfunk is back!	00:29
TuxMan	>.<	00:29
paperfunk	bows	00:29
harry	anyone know where the kde sound settings configuration file is?	00:30
Artimus	paperfunk: Please tell me you didn't have to hard power cycle your box...	00:30
TuxMan	/sound/sound/sound.config	00:30
paperfunk	yeah, guilty	00:30
BluesKaj	harry, or system settings/soundsystem	00:30
Artimus	Lesson of the day: If you're going to tell someone how to switch to a virtual terminal, tell them that Ctrl+Alt+F7 switches back to X	00:30
paperfunk	i couldnt get back into x, haha	00:30
TuxMan	:-P	00:30
paperfunk	hahaha	00:30
ardchoille	Artimus: Noted	00:30
Artimus	(Alt+F7 might do it, actually...)	00:31
BluesKaj	ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop, paperfunk	00:31
Artimus	You need Ctrl+Alt to go from X to Terminal, but only Alt to get back	00:31
TuxMan	!automake	00:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:31
ardchoille	paperfunk: My appologies, I neglected to tell you to ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x	00:31
Artimus	Just to nitpick	00:31
paperfunk	its not your fault	00:31
hydrogen	you can use ctrl though :)	00:31
Artimus	hydrogen is correct, an extra control won't hurt it...	00:31
TuxMan	ha dumb bot doesnt know automake!	00:31
paperfunk	yeah, i hate running bx in a term window	00:31
hydrogen	better to have more control if you know what i mean!	00:31
paperfunk	but i have that ironed out now	00:31
Artimus	paperfunk: Why, if I may ask?	00:32
BluesKaj	well, commenting out splash and quiet wasn't enuff to stop the flickering :(	00:32
TuxMan	!xephyr	00:32
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about xephyr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:32
ardchoille	!info automake \| TuxMan	00:32
ubotu	tuxman: automake: A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.10+nogfdl-1 (gutsy), package size 360 kB, installed size 1460 kB	00:32
harry	BluesKaj: the kde sound syste settings	00:32
paperfunk	im not real sure, its sorta hard to read	00:32
hydrogen	autohell--	00:32
Artimus	BluesKaj: hmm... nvidia card by any chance?	00:32
paperfunk	i need to change all my konsole settings and ill probablyh like it better	00:32
Artimus	yeah, you can increase the font somewhere I'm sure	00:32
BluesKaj	yes harry . kmenu/system settings/soundsystem	00:32
paperfunk	yeah	00:33
harry	BluesKaj: no, i mean the file where the sttings are kept	00:33
BluesKaj	Artimus, no...ATI junky onboard X200G	00:33
harry	BluesKaj: somewhere in .kde	00:33
BluesKaj	asoundrc?	00:34
Artimus	BluesKaj: It's probably the same issue... You've probably got a little 2D framebuffer driver loaded that conflicts... On my nvidia card, I used to blacklist nvidiafb (the 2D nvidia framebuffer driver)	00:34
Artimus	BluesKaj: Just for laughs... "lsmod \| grep fb"	00:34
BluesKaj	no output , Artimus	00:35
Artimus	BluesKaj: I tried... Nevermind then, I've got nothing, sorry	00:35
BluesKaj	Artimus, it's ok , i'm just happy that the restricted driver runs google earth , altho very slow and clunky	00:36
TuxMan	who died?	00:36
Artimus	I recently switched boxes, I've got an old Nvidia FX5200... Works great in Google Earth. I'm really a fan of the restricted driver manager, one of the best things I've seen in a while.	00:36
TuxMan	nVidia GeForce FX 5200?	00:37
TuxMan	thats same as mine :-D	00:37
TuxMan	:-D	00:37
Artimus	Cheap card, but it's worked pretty well for me so far...	00:37
TuxMan	yeah, not too pricey, but works fine with GL	00:38
BluesKaj	yeah, the so called new proprietary advanced ati 8.43linux driver does do anything on my setup, no fgl_glxgears or DRI , nothing like Feisty	00:38
BluesKaj	err doesn't	00:39
Artimus	BluesKaj: I just ran regular glxgears on an ATI box, worked ok...	00:39
Artimus	Any idea what the difference is?	00:39
BluesKaj	yup, it works on this one , with the restricted default driver	00:39
BluesKaj	8.37 ati	00:40
BluesKaj	I get the spinning 3D cube with fgl_glxgears , so I know the driver is almost there but not quire	00:41
Artimus	The bitterness between KDE and Kubuntu is kind of a bummer... The KDE guys seem really unhappy with all of the non-core changes that Kubuntu makes... I guess it makes sense, they probably get a lot of Kubuntu specific questions. I guess it's too optimistic to hope for better relations between the two projects...	00:41
Artimus	BluesKaj: What happens when you run regular glxgears with the later driver?	00:41
BluesKaj	Artimus, dunno	00:41
BluesKaj	if I recall , it does work	00:42
Artimus	I got 2500fps on an ATI card with the restricted drivers in Gutsy... Same as my 5200	00:42
Artimus	Too bad the ATI card is a heck of a lot newer than my FX card	00:42
BluesKaj	getting only 1100 fps with glxgears here	00:44
Funkydan5	I hear you can use this place for help on Dell and such..?	00:44
BluesKaj	Dell Linux/kubuntu ?	00:44
Artimus	BluesKaj: This was a brand new PCI Express card...	00:44
Artimus	I thought Dell sold regular Ubuntu...	00:45
BluesKaj	oooh	00:45
Funkydan5	Well... They said Linux but I am not, because there is no Dell IRC Chat	00:45
Funkydan5	And it is rather important someone helps if anyone is knowledgable in the XP area	00:45
Artimus	Funkydan5: You'd want the channel #Ubuntu	00:45
Funkydan5	K awesome ty ty ^^	00:45
Artimus	Good luck	00:46
Funkydan5	ty	00:46
BluesKaj	Funkydan5, try #windows	00:46
* genii pours some eggnog in his coffee and sips		00:46
Artimus	BluesKaj: I'm guessing it's a dual boot issue, he'll want #Ubuntu first	00:46
angelsofdust	http://www.cybertown.com/cgi-bin/jail/place?plc=jail&ac=place&ID=0000000000000033&force=s	00:47
artur_	A common PC has a battery that cares of the clock. In a Laptop, the same happens. Is the battery for both cases the same?	00:47
* BluesKaj wonders how genii sleeps at night :)		00:47
genii	BluesKaj: Not much last night for sure...boxing day	00:47
BluesKaj	get any deals , genii ?	00:48
genii	BluesKaj: 1Tb external $199	00:48
BluesKaj	oooh	00:48
TuxMan	aw, cmon! I killed compiz fusion to make my comp faster and now the panel is gone!	00:49
TuxMan	and the window dekoration	00:49
genii	BluesKaj: But I get oftopic :)	00:49
Artimus	artur_: Well, it depends, not all desktops have the little watch battery looking things anymore. No guarantee a laptop will either.	00:49
BluesKaj	network server genii ?	00:49
genii	*offtopic	00:49
genii	BluesKaj: Streaming media for pvr	00:50
BluesKaj	right	00:50
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whiteflame74	hello	00:51
genii	TuxMan: Did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker ?	00:52
artur_	Artimus: hmm...i see!	00:52
Artimus	artur_: Why, did your's die?	00:52
artur_	so i'm gonna check,,,	00:52
m1k3	I need help, when ever I install wine the .wine directory never gets put there	00:53
Artimus	m1k3: winecfg	00:53
Artimus	m1k3: It would also automatically create one the first time you run a program...	00:53
artur_	no, my sister's laptop is always with the watch changed....	00:53
m1k3	Artimus, it freezes when I try any executable or winecfg	00:53
TuxMan	I cant do anything that will slow comp down. im compiling QT4 for KDE4	00:53
Artimus	m1k3: What's it say?	00:53
m1k3	Artumus, nothing	00:54
Artimus	artur_: It loses time?	00:54
m1k3	Artimus, it locks up	00:54
Artimus	Are you sure, it takes a while to run...	00:54
artur_	Artimus: yes...	00:54
Artimus	It should say something like "Creating .wine directory..." When you're back at a prompt again, it should be good.	00:54
m1k3	Arimus, Yes I'm positive it just stays there	00:54
MilitantPotato	artur_: http://repair4laptop.org/notebook_battery.html	00:55
m1k3	Artimus, as soon as it says that, it freezes	00:55
* unix_lappy is at an open ap hacking a mac.		00:55
artur_	Artimus: the same happens with the Date	00:55
MilitantPotato	artur_: changing that will void your warrenty probably.	00:55
Artimus	artur_: You might want to look into NTP. It'll sync the clock with the internet. Kind of nice on boxes where the battery can't be replaced.	00:55
Artimus	m1k3: How long did you let it sit there?	00:55
m1k3	Artimus, a long time	00:57
m1k3	Artimus, I know it's locked up because the mouse doesn't move and no response from keyboard	00:57
Artimus	m1k3: That's a bad sign... Sounds like hardware	00:57
m1k3	Artimus, well it was working until I installed new RAM and a DVD burner	00:58
Artimus	winecfg creates a bunch of files... That is not going to lock up Linux... Unless you've got a kernel bug that doesn't handle harddrive access...	00:58
artur_	Artimus: hmmm...indeed. I'm gonna try! Thanks very much. Now i'm going! Bye!	00:58
Ankthepot	i need some advice to decide btw 64bit or 32bit	00:58
m1k3	Watch when I try	00:58
m1k3	IT's gonna freeze	00:58
Artimus	m1k3: stop	00:58
Artimus	m1k3: Reboot your box, hit escape when it says "Press Escape to view the GRUB Menu"	00:58
Artimus	You should see a choice called "memtest86"	00:59
Artimus	Select that. If you see any red lines, your memory is bad	00:59
Artimus	I believe it's escape to reboot again.	00:59
Artimus	Leave it run for maybe 10 minutes or until you see red lines.	00:59
m1k3	Artimus, it said "CReateing wine configureation "home/m1k3/.wine" then it froze	01:01
m1k3	Artimus, I had to restart	01:02
Artimus	m1k3: You didn't get my messages then	01:02
Artimus	[18:58] <Artimus> m1k3: Reboot your box, hit escape when it says "Press Escape to view the GRUB Menu"	01:02
Artimus	[18:59] <Artimus> You should see a choice called "memtest86"	01:02
Artimus	[18:59] <Artimus> Select that. If you see any red lines, your memory is bad	01:02
Artimus	[18:59] <Artimus> I believe it's escape to reboot again.	01:02
Artimus	[18:59] <Artimus> Leave it run for maybe 10 minutes or until you see red lines.	01:02
m1k3	Ok	01:03
m1k3	What do I do if my memory is bad?	01:03
kye	Anyone know of a fast and easy to use AVI to DVD converter?	01:03
paperfunk	is cedega less of a ram hog than wine for gaming?	01:03
Artimus	m1k3: How many sticks of RAM do you have?	01:03
m1k3	2	01:03
m1k3	1 gig and a 256	01:03
Artimus	paperfunk: Shouldn't make a difference	01:03
paperfunk	ok, i guess its not working paying for then	01:04
Artimus	m1k3: Try it, if you see red lines, let me know, we'll go from there. If I should have to disconnect, let someone else know what's going on, tell them your memory is bad and you want to find out which stick is bad. They'll know how to help you.	01:04
m1k3	ok	01:04
MilitantPotato	Mixing ram modules is generally a bad idea isn't it?	01:04
Artimus	MilitantPotato: Not really... If you want Dual Channel, you need the same speed. Otherwise, no big deal	01:05
Artimus	Speed and size...	01:05
Ankthepot	Artimus: i'm using intel core 2 duo t5600 cpu, is kubuntu...amd64.iso the one i'm lookin for?	01:05
MilitantPotato	nah	01:06
Artimus	Ankthepot: Sure. But i386 would work too.	01:06
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Artimus	AMD64 if you want your OS to be 64-bit	01:06
MilitantPotato	unless you have a specific need for the 64bit version, the i386 will save you a lot of headaches.	01:06
Ankthepot	Artimus: ok thanks alot	01:06
Artimus	I haven't had an issue either way. i386 is easier. Your call. People can generally help you if there are any specific 64-bit issues	01:07
Ankthepot	MilitantPotato: ah, not a real need but just want to give it a try...	01:07
MilitantPotato	True, I managed to get 64bit working well, firefox was the biggest hassle	01:07
MilitantPotato	firefox with flash*	01:07
Artimus	Ankthepot: Flash might take a little extra work, that's all.	01:07
Ankthepot	hmm, so it's nothing impossible, just a bit work then?	01:08
MilitantPotato	if you're half way decent with linux it's worth a shot	01:08
CheGuevara	java	01:08
Ankthepot	but anyway, if it won't worth that work (in terms of performance) i will go with i386	01:08
MilitantPotato	won't gain much other then the ability to use over 4gb of System Memory	01:08
Ankthepot	i'm not experienced on any kinds of ubuntu	01:09
whiteflame74	can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong with samba	01:09
Artimus	Ankthepot: I'd go i386 if you can...	01:09
MilitantPotato	Ankthepot: maybe .5%-1%, in a few things.	01:09
tekteen	whiteflame74: sure	01:09
Ankthepot	oh well, then i'm goin for i386 :)	01:09
tekteen	whiteflame74: what is the problem?	01:09
MilitantPotato	Did the same :P	01:09
MilitantPotato	weird.	01:10
Ankthepot	MilitantPotato: hehe :)	01:10
MilitantPotato	winecfg gave me the error: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".	01:10
Artimus	whiteflame74: Go ahead and ask.	01:10
MilitantPotato	Is that from lack of direct rendering?	01:10
Artimus	MilitantPotato: Does glxgears work on your box?	01:10
MilitantPotato	yep.	01:10
Artimus	Maybe...	01:10
Artimus	hmm... Let me quick look at my xorg.conf	01:11
Artimus	One second, I'm lagging a bit... I tried to load two virtual machines up in vmware at once... Swapping, horribly...	01:11
tekteen	whiteflame74: u here?	01:11
Artimus	MilitantPotato: Can you open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Look at the problem for a section called DRI. It probably says something like Mode 0666. Is that in there?	01:12
whiteflame74	yeah, I'm here. I've set up Samba, and all and on the windows machine I can see the workgroup, I can see this machine, and I can see the folders but when I click on them I get a network path not found error	01:12
TuxMan	the stuff that works... works.	01:12
W8TAH	good evening folks -- having a few little oddities in my kubuntu box -- earlier today, while running Pidgin, Konversation, and adjusting the clock, ARTS Crashed reporting a CPU overload -- second or third time this has happened in the last several days, can anyone provide input on troubleshooting or repairs?	01:12
MilitantPotato	Artimus: nah, I'm using the ATI drivers w/o AIGLX	01:12
TuxMan	W8TAH: don't multitask as heavily?	01:13
Artimus	MilitantPotato: But you have 3D support? Like a Radeon 9500ish card?	01:13
MilitantPotato	yes	01:13
MilitantPotato	glxgears is working fine, 16000fps	01:13
Artimus	W8TAH: Saw that before, I disabled ARTS in the KDE control panel. I unchecked Enable Soundsystem.	01:13
tekteen	whiteflame74: r u sure u have the path for the share correct?	01:13
W8TAH	TuxMan: on a 2ghz P4 Laptop with 1gb memory -- that shouldnt be heavy	01:14
whiteflame74	yeah..	01:14
W8TAH	Artimus: doesnt that cause sound to fail?	01:14
Artimus	MilitantPotato: You should have that DRI line in there. It's using the built in DRI drivers, you still need the DRI line, I believe.	01:14
W8TAH	i need sound in both Pidgin and Konversation	01:14
Artimus	W8TAH: Nope, you might have trouble with running 2 or more sound applications on an older computer, though...	01:14
MilitantPotato	oh	01:14
MilitantPotato	network path error	01:14
tekteen	whiteflame74: can u pastebin the smb.conf file	01:14
MilitantPotato	I had that...give me a few to see if I can remember what I did to fix it.	01:14
MilitantPotato	whiteflame74: have you tried using gsambad?	01:15
W8TAH	Artimus: where does sound come from then, ALSA?	01:15
Artimus	W8TAH: Correct	01:15
MilitantPotato	Makes configuring samba a lot simpler	01:15
Artimus	Here's what your box looks like now	01:15
Artimus	Kopete -> Arts -> Alsa -> Speakers (basically)	01:15
Artimus	If you turn arts off, it goes Kopete -> Alsa -> Speakers	01:15
* tekteen edits samba the old fashion way		01:15
Artimus	The problem is, if you've got an older soundcard, only one application can work with alsa at once...	01:16
MilitantPotato	whiteflame74: any chance your linux box is blocking the SMB ports?	01:16
tekteen	MilitantPotato: no	01:16
W8TAH	Artimus: thanks - -lemme look up what the card is	01:16
tekteen	MilitantPotato: he can see the shares	01:16
Artimus	MilitantPotato: By the way, I've got a really easy answer for your video issue	01:16
Artimus	MilitantPotato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292642	01:16
TuxMan	yes, my comp can only use one program with ALSA at a time	01:16
W8TAH	00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)	01:16
Artimus	My Onboard AC97 works fine with multiple audio sources.	01:17
tekteen	whiteflame74: have u pastebined the /etc/samba/smb.conf file	01:17
W8TAH	outstanding	01:17
W8TAH	Artimus: thanks a bunch	01:17
whiteflame74	tekteen um... where do you want me to past it without flooding the channel	01:17
Artimus	W8TAH: You can try turning off the soundsystem. If it doesn't work, turn it back on and ask in here again... Tell them turning off the soundsystem didn't help..	01:17
Artimus	MilitantPotato: Hope you aren't using the Composite junk...	01:17
tekteen	!pastebin \| whiteflame74	01:17
ubotu	whiteflame74: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	01:17
W8TAH	kewl	01:17
W8TAH	will do	01:18
MilitantPotato	tekteen: i had a share that wasn't set to browsable and I got that error, aswell as firestarting blocking things.	01:18
Artimus	W8TAH: You might have to reboot, I'm not sure if ARTS will turn itself off	01:18
W8TAH	ok	01:18
tekteen	whiteflame74: look at MilitantPotato's post ^	01:18
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Artimus	MilitantPotato: You get the link I sent?	01:19
MilitantPotato	Could also be a lack of an active Samba User account	01:19
whiteflame74	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49641/	01:19
MilitantPotato	Gsambad made samba so much easier to deal with.	01:20
tekteen	whiteflame74: do they ALL not work?	01:20
tekteen	If not which ones don't?	01:21
whiteflame74	yes none of the folders work	01:21
TuxMan	you know those flash drives that say Windows-only or Mac-only?	01:21
dr_willis_	Those U3 ones?	01:21
TuxMan	once I plugged one into Fedora 8 and it actually didn't work. it melted in the drive...	01:21
whiteflame74	If linux was blocking the samba port windows shouldn't know what the folders names are right?	01:22
tekteen	whiteflame74: add 'browseable = yes' to each	01:22
TuxMan	the plastic literally melted.	01:22
tekteen	whiteflame74: yep	01:22
Artimus	Gutsy bug: Konversation should not crash while I'm in the middle of a rant	01:22
dr_willis_	also you may need to give the users samba passwords.	01:22
D-MAN	any one know how to get wireless card working on kubuntu?	01:23
Artimus	TuxMan: Generally, the "Windows/Mac only" is for the encryption software. Every flash drive I've seen has worked fine. What kind of drive, if I may ask?	01:23
whiteflame74	I set up samba passwords.	01:23
TuxMan	one of the Sony new ones.	01:23
Artimus	Haven't tried one of those, sorry... Must be a heck of a buggy drive	01:23
tekteen	D-MAN: Which card?	01:24
Artimus	Wouldn't recommend buying one again :P	01:24
TuxMan	... yeah	01:24
Artimus	I have no idea what I even have. I got some 4GB drive for $30 from best buy	01:24
D-MAN	WMP54G	01:24
D-MAN	kynksys	01:24
D-MAN	lynksys	01:24
whiteflame74	ok, let me try the browseable yes thing, thanks for all the help...... I just let kde set it all up for me... still learning the scripting stuff.	01:24
tekteen	D-MAN: did you just install it?	01:25
D-MAN	yes	01:25
dr_willis_	The Useing samba book - is in the repos in the samba-doc pacakge - ITs worth installing and reading	01:25
Artimus	WMP54G should be an ndiswrapper card...	01:25
TuxMan	omg.. did my konsole just close?	01:25
TuxMan	nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOO!	01:25
W8TAH	Artimus: i rebooted and i now have NO sound	01:26
tekteen	D-MAN: first try to see if there is a restricted driver	01:26
W8TAH	:(	01:26
MilitantPotato	whiteflame74: this is how my folder shares look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49642/	01:26
D-MAN	no clue how to install ndiswrapper	01:26
TuxMan	i was compiling Qt4 and konsole just crashed.	01:26
Artimus	W8TAH: Yeah... Looks like your card only supports one source. Bummer... Let me check the settings to see if there's something that might help. Do you remember what the error message was? CPU something	01:26
tekteen	D-MAN: download ndiswrapper from sourceforge.net	01:26
Artimus	...	01:26
Artimus	There has to be Ubuntu packages for ndiswrapper	01:26
W8TAH	Artimus: CPU Overload	01:26
D-MAN	i downloaded it yesterday	01:26
TuxMan	no wait, it didnt!	01:26
tekteen	Artimus: they never work for me	01:27
D-MAN	but no clue how to install	01:27
tekteen	Artimus: I download the latest one	01:27
tekteen	D-MAN: ok	01:27
D-MAN	very nice to actually talk to someone though	01:27
tekteen	D-MAN: open a konsole	01:27
D-MAN	wats konsole?	01:28
tekteen	D-MAN: type sudo apt-get install build-essential	01:28
Artimus	W8TAH: Let me check some bugs... I'll get back to you in a minute or two hopefully	01:28
tekteen	ok	01:28
W8TAH	Artimus: np -- thanks for the assist	01:28
BluesKaj	strange , I did a totally clean gutsy install , installed samba, then ran the network printer wizard..,smb:/ connected in konq without any other configuring	01:28
tekteen	this will be fun :-)	01:28
D-MAN	never used linux before	01:28
D-MAN	ya	01:28
D-MAN	can never figure it out	01:29
tekteen	D-MAN: click alt+f2	01:29
BluesKaj	well, gents a buddy needs an old monitor power cord ...bbl	01:29
tekteen	then type konsole	01:29
whiteflame74	ok... I'm back. was I supposed to restart samba after changing the conf?	01:29
tekteen	then run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"	01:29
D-MAN	im in xp right now couse cant get wirelessd to work	01:29
MilitantPotato	yes white	01:29
Artimus	W8TAH: What sound card driver are you using again? "lsmod \| grep snd" should list it, amoung other things...	01:30
whiteflame74	ok... me = idiot still learning sometimes.	01:30
W8TAH	Artimus: one moment	01:30
Artimus	Might be hda_intel	01:30
tekteen	D-MAN: do u have a way to connect the linux machine to the internet?	01:30
W8TAH	Artimus: theres a bout a dozen entries - -what would it be classified as?	01:31
tekteen	D-MAN: without wireless?	01:31
D-MAN	yes if i carry my pc to other room	01:31
Artimus	W8TAH: How about this. "lsmod \| grep hda_intel". Does that list something?	01:31
tekteen	D-MAN: please do that :-)	01:31
D-MAN	kk	01:31
W8TAH	artimus nothing lists	01:32
Artimus	W8TAH: "lsmod \| grep via" ???	01:32
D-MAN	then how do i find this place again	01:32
tekteen	D-MAN: what do u mean?	01:32
W8TAH	Artimus: nada	01:32
D-MAN	took 2 days to actually find someone to talk to	01:32
tekteen	D-MAN: just come back to this chat room	01:33
W8TAH	D-MAN: lotta good people here	01:33
tekteen	#kubuntu	01:33
D-MAN	is that the site?	01:33
nosrednaekim	its the channel	01:34
tekteen	D-MAN: how did u get here?!	01:34
D-MAN	by luck i guess	01:34
W8TAH	tekteen: im guessin hes in on the java client	01:34
D-MAN	yes	01:34
tekteen	D-MAN: what java client?	01:34
Artimus	W8TAH: How about lspci? What does it list for Multimedia audio controllers?	01:34
Artimus	(Sound, audio, whatever it calls it)	01:34
W8TAH	00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)	01:35
nosrednaekim	AC'97? should work fine!	01:35
D-MAN	how can i tell	01:35
tekteen	W8TAH: what java client?	01:35
D-MAN	freenode	01:35
W8TAH	i came across one some time ago - one moment lemme google	01:35
tekteen	D-MAN: r u in a web browser?	01:35
W8TAH	artimus -- i keep seeing a box pop up saying starting sound system	01:36
D-MAN	yes	01:36
tekteen	D-MAN: what website r u at?	01:36
whiteflame74	ok, this is getting flustrating, I still can't get samba working....	01:36
W8TAH	tekteen: http://java.freenode.net/	01:36
D-MAN	irc.netslit.de	01:36
nosrednaekim	D-MAN: if you are running kubuntu, there is an application under "internet" called konversation that will bring you here.	01:37
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: what driver do i need for it? the restricted one?	01:37
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nosrednaekim	W8TAH: you shouldn't need any special driver.	01:37
W8TAH	humm - im getting some sound	01:37
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: no sound works at all?	01:37
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: i restarted the sound system and im gettin sound	01:38
D-MAN	cool thats good to know	01:38
W8TAH	but i still had that crash last night	01:38
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: great....	01:38
W8TAH	that im trying to avoid	01:38
tekteen	D-MAN: r u at a desktop now?	01:38
D-MAN	brb	01:38
Artimus	nosrednaekim: There's a bug... ARTS freaks out. I found some bug reports, but they only apply to VIA audio.	01:38
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: oops - -i meant this afternoon	01:38
D-MAN	movin to other room	01:38
tekteen	ok	01:38
Artimus	nosrednaekim: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bug/66982 if you're interested. Won't help here.	01:38
W8TAH	artimus - reboot to solve or ????	01:38
Artimus	W8TAH: Does sound work at all right now?	01:39
W8TAH	one moment lemme see	01:39
W8TAH	Artimus: im getting what appears to be full sound in konversation and partial sound in pidgin	01:39
Artimus	W8TAH: "ps aux \| grep esd"	01:42
Artimus	I'm out of ideas after this...	01:42
W8TAH	its running	01:42
W8TAH	wait	01:42
W8TAH	no its not	01:42
W8TAH	sorry	01:42
Artimus	bummer	01:42
W8TAH	might not be installed - i dont know --	01:42
nosrednaekim	so the sound driver is alsa, correct?	01:43
W8TAH	right now i think arts	01:43
W8TAH	when i turned arts off i got no sound	01:43
cuking_1	Anybody get samba to perform well? I am getting about 1/10 the speed of nfs-kernel-server..	01:43
tekteen	cuking_1: preform well?	01:44
Artimus	W8TAH: How many soundcards does your box have in it? Whether or not you use them, do you have more than 1?	01:44
tekteen	perform*	01:44
MilitantPotato	very well here	01:44
MilitantPotato	maxes out at my discs speed	01:44
W8TAH	Artimus: only one	01:44
Artimus	darn	01:44
cuking_1	well I would like hmm about 4 mb/sec on a 100 network .. I get 10~11 mb/sec with nfs	01:44
cuking_1	I can't seem to pass over about 1.2 mb/sec	01:44
W8TAH	Artimus: im on gusty if that matters	01:45
Artimus	I'm reading a German Message board at the moment, this is an exercise in futility	01:45
W8TAH	ok	01:45
Artimus	Some obscure kernel issue... I wish I knew what to tell you	01:45
W8TAH	artimus - lemme ask this -- if it happens again -- how do i restart arts?	01:45
W8TAH	/etc/init.d/artsd restart????	01:46
cuking_1	tekteen any ideas?	01:46
Artimus	W8TAH: "killall -9 artsd && artsd&"	01:46
W8TAH	Artimus: cool	01:46
W8TAH	thanks	01:46
tekteen	cuking_1: I have no idea	01:46
Artimus	W8TAH: Wait a second... Open up kcontrol and go to the Sound settings.	01:46
W8TAH	ok	01:46
tekteen	cuking_1: never seen the problem	01:46
Artimus	W8TAH: Then to the little Sound System section. Click on the Hardware tab.	01:47
W8TAH	done	01:47
cuking_1	hmm what speeds do you normally get with samba?	01:47
Artimus	W8TAH: It's set to Autodetect, right?	01:47
W8TAH	yes	01:47
nosrednaekim	set that to alsa....	01:47
W8TAH	ok	01:47
tekteen	cuking_1: more then the network hardware supports	01:47
W8TAH	any other changes?	01:47
Artimus	W8TAH: Not yet...	01:48
Artimus	W8TAH: Install the alsa-oss package...	01:48
W8TAH	ok	01:48
cuking_1	tekteen what did you do to /etc/smb.conf?	01:48
Artimus	If it crashes again, go back in there and switch it to Open Sound System...	01:48
W8TAH	ok	01:48
Artimus	Otherwise, leave it on alsa	01:48
tekteen	cuking_1: nothing	01:48
W8TAH	Artimus: just that package?	01:48
Artimus	W8TAH: yup	01:48
Artimus	nosrednaekim: Random thought. Pidgin isn't trying to go through ARTS...	01:49
cuking_1	tekteen ... how long would it take to transfer say a 800 mb file?	01:49
nosrednaekim	Artimus: and....	01:49
W8TAH	Artimus: probably	01:49
tekteen	cuking_1: no idea	01:49
W8TAH	ok the install is done -- lemme reboot	01:49
tekteen	cuking_1: not long though	01:49
nosrednaekim	no need to reboot	01:49
Artimus	nosrednaekim: Think about it. His card doesn't support multiple audio sources. Pidgin is trying to directly access the card while arts is running...	01:49
tekteen	cuking_1: under 10 min	01:49
david__	tekteen im on its me D-MAN	01:49
nosrednaekim	Artimus: hmm true,thats why you generally want to run alsa	01:50
tekteen	hey david__	01:50
W8TAH	i keep getting the restarting sound system box	01:50
david__	BOY DOES THIS MONITOR SUCK	01:50
cuking_1	tekteen ... I am getting 823 mb in 1min 34 sec with nfs	01:50
nosrednaekim	david__: hey	01:50
Artimus	nosrednaekim: ALSA won't help you run more than one program at once if the card can't support it	01:50
cuking_1	tekteen ... I was just wondering if I did something wrong when I got about 10 min with samba	01:51
nosrednaekim	Artimus: most can though.	01:51
david__	theres anewb kid in town	01:51
tekteen	cuking_1: I do not know. I do not have that prob.	01:51
tekteen	david__: have u downloaded ndiswrapper	01:51
tekteen	?	01:51
Artimus	nosrednaekim: I've seen many that can't, and I'm guessing if he has no sound after reboot, that means that his card can't	01:51
david__	yes	01:51
tekteen	cuking_1: no idea. it does not sound right though.	01:51
tekteen	cuking_1: can	01:51
Artimus	nosrednaekim: I had him turn off ARTS, he had no sound at all. That means something is grabbing the soundcard, so the others wouldn't play sounds	01:51
cuking_1	tekteen I don't need ndiswrapper but thanks.	01:51
tekteen	I help david	01:51
W8TAH	be right back guys	01:51
tekteen	cuking_1: can I help david?	01:52
cuking_1	tekteen sure.	01:52
tekteen	david__: open a konsole	01:52
tekteen	david__: K menu > system > konsole	01:52
david__	weres thaaaaaaaaaaaaaa	01:52
somekool	who is making KDE4 package for Kubuntu? I wish I could installed .deb file that contains compiled source with .o and everything I need to start development on KDE from freshly installed Kubuntu system	01:52
tekteen	k menu=start menu	01:53
nosrednaekim	somekool: stdin	01:53
Artimus	somekool: There's some for Gutsy... You'll need some other development packages to compile stuff, of course	01:53
tekteen	david__: then type in the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential" (press enter after each command)	01:54
david__	black screen	01:54
david__	llike dos	01:54
tekteen	david__: sounds right :-)	01:54
Artimus	nosrednaekim: If I'm not around withW8TAH comes back, have him go into the Pidgin settings and set the Sound Method to ARTS.	01:54
nosrednaekim	ok	01:54
W8TAH	Artimus: im back	01:55
W8TAH	and i'll check it	01:55
Artimus	W8TAH: Did you just see the message I sent about Pidgin, then?	01:55
tekteen	david__: it is a lot like dos	01:55
somekool	gusty is 7.10 right?	01:55
W8TAH	yes	01:55
david__	kk	01:55
BluesKaj	somekool, yes	01:55
tekteen	david__: type the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential"	01:55
W8TAH	Artimus: ARTS is not an option in pidgin	01:56
Artimus	O_o	01:56
W8TAH	its currently set to automatic	01:56
tekteen	david__: u there?	01:56
Artimus	W8TAH: What other choices were there? It's a dropdown box...	01:56
W8TAH	console beep, ALSA, Automatic, ESD,command and no sounds	01:57
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somekool	BluesKaj: yes what?	01:57
somekool	BluesKaj: oh yes thanks	01:57
BluesKaj	gutsy is 7.10	01:58
tekteen	david__ ?	01:58
Artimus	hmm... You might have to turn sounds off in Pidgin. Is there a reason you use both Pidgin and Kopete?	01:58
W8TAH	i dont	01:58
david__	tekteen command not found	01:58
W8TAH	i use pidgin and konversation	01:58
Artimus	W8TAH: Could you use Kopete instead of Pidgin?	01:58
david__	do i use parenthisis	01:58
W8TAH	no- - its very very tempermental	01:58
tekteen	do not include the ""	01:58
Artimus	W8TAH: What do you mean?	01:58
W8TAH	crashes routinely	01:59
tekteen	david__: no	01:59
Artimus	W8TAH: On MSN? They fixed that	01:59
david__	kk	01:59
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W8TAH	on any and all	01:59
* BluesKaj doesn't understand using pidgin for irc ...but i'm an old skool type		01:59
nosrednaekim	yeah.. kopete is kinda buggy sometimes	01:59
* W8TAH doesnt either		01:59
Artimus	I haven't had Kopete ever crash. Konversation, however, crashes all the time.	01:59
W8TAH	pidgin is for Yahoo, google,msn etc	01:59
tekteen	david__: then type "y" then enter	01:59
W8TAH	konversation is everything else	01:59
W8TAH	oops	02:00
W8TAH	konversation is irc	02:00
BluesKaj	konversation , is fine here	02:00
W8TAH	ya - -works great -- just wish they would make a better notify system	02:00
smk_running_kde4	konversation never crashes here... but anyway	02:00
nosrednaekim	yeah wish they had konversation for kde4	02:00
BluesKaj	those IMs are more difficult to get right in many ways than an irc client	02:00
david__	tekteen password	02:01
tekteen	david__: yes	02:01
nosrednaekim	david__: your user passowrd.	02:01
tekteen	type in your pass	02:01
tekteen	david__: then type y then enter	02:02
david__	now were cookin	02:02
david__	tekteen think it stopped	02:03
tekteen	david__: where did u save the ndiswrapper -VERSION INFO.tar.gz file?	02:03
david__	desktop	02:03
tekteen	ok	02:03
tekteen	I am a slow typer :-)	02:04
W8TAH	ya	02:04
tekteen	david__: type "tar -xvzf Desktop/ndiswrapper*"	02:04
tekteen	david__: then "cd ndiswrapper*"	02:05
tekteen	now tell me what it says when u type "pwd"	02:05
tekteen	david__: note: press enter after each command	02:06
tekteen	david__: what happened when u typed "pwd"?	02:07
david__	tekteen no luck on first command	02:07
tekteen	ok	02:07
tekteen	what is the file called?	02:07
Neonix	Guys I am getting this error	02:08
david__	no luck on first command line	02:08
tekteen	david__: what is the file called?	02:08
Neonix	Couldn't open audio : Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard	02:08
nosrednaekim	Neonix: system settings->sound system->hardware-> change the device driver to alsa and hit apply	02:09
david__	tekteen how do i tell	02:09
nosrednaekim	david__: do "cd Desktop" and then type "ls"	02:09
david__	there r actually three files on my desktop	02:09
nosrednaekim	without the quotes of course	02:09
mrtimbo	hola	02:11
* tekteen wishes he could ssh to him		02:11
tekteen	:-D	02:11
tekteen	david__: do u know what the pastebin is?	02:12
david__	tekteen i downloade the file to desktop then i extracted it	02:12
tekteen	david__: ok	02:12
tekteen	david__: type "cd Desktop/ndiswapper*"	02:12
nosrednaekim	tekteen: you can't do stars with cd... tab is better	02:13
tekteen	ok	02:13
nosrednaekim	david__: do "cd Desktop/ndi<pres tab here>"	02:13
Neonix	Under Hardware there is no option device driver but under Midi Device it does says Midi Through Midi Through Port-0 ALSA device, how to find Device Driver section?	02:13
tekteen	nosrednaekim: ty	02:14
tekteen	nosrednaekim: I know ndiswrapper but not how to teach bash	02:14
nosrednaekim	Neonix: sorry, the field is "select audio device"	02:14
nosrednaekim	tekteen: :)	02:14
david__	no go	02:15
Xcell	My brothere kubuntu starts in text prompting for pw and such, how can he get back to gui?	02:15
Xcell	brother	02:15
tekteen	david__: why	02:15
nosrednaekim	david__: paste the results of "ls Desktop"	02:15
nosrednaekim	david__: and of "pwd"	02:16
david__	tekteen i dont know y none of the commands r working	02:16
tekteen	nosrednaekim: thanks again	02:16
nosrednaekim	tekteen: btw, I didn't know of that command "pwd" before you just did it, pretty sweet :D	02:16
Neonix	ALSA = Advance Linux Sound Architecture. Don't have to reply if this is correct.	02:16
W8TAH	guys the error im getting in the debug window of pidgen when i try to play sounds is:	02:16
nosrednaekim	Neonix: thats right.	02:16
tekteen	nosrednaekim: lol	02:16
W8TAH	(21:16:21) gstreamer: Resource busy or not available.	02:17
Neonix	Sbkh,	02:17
nosrednaekim	gstreamer? hmmm why don't you get pidgin to do comsole beeps?	02:17
Neonix	Should I reboot, sorry about the above line?	02:17
nosrednaekim	Xcell: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"	02:17
tekteen	david__: what does the konsole say when u type "cd ~;ls Desktop"	02:17
Xcell	nice thanks.	02:17
nosrednaekim	after logging in of course	02:18
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: lemme try it	02:18
Neonix	It worked, thanks.	02:18
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: nothing happens	02:19
tekteen	david__: I am sorry but I am currently blind since I am not at your computer	02:19
tekteen	david__: have u tried that command?	02:19
david__	tekteen does desktop have to have caps at beginning	02:20
tekteen	david__: yes	02:21
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: hmm	02:22
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: does normal music work?	02:22
W8TAH	ummm - not sure really	02:22
W8TAH	i dont play music from this box	02:22
W8TAH	ive got a cd -- lemme try	02:22
david__	tekteen is that is or ls	02:23
Schuenemann	why don't you copy and paste?	02:24
tekteen	lower case L	02:24
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=== Arno is now known as ArNo
tekteen	david__: lower case L	02:25
david__	tekteen no such file or directory	02:25
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: NO - audio output unavailabe: the device is busy -- Xine Parameters:	02:26
nosrednaekim	what the heck? do a "pwd" david__	02:26
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: thats weird... I wonder what is using the sound .... oh! go to systemsettings->sound system and set the kde timeout to 0	02:27
W8TAH	okies	02:27
david__	wat is pwd	02:27
tekteen	david__: pwd is a command	02:27
nosrednaekim	its a command... run it	02:27
ardchoille	david__: it means "Print Working Directory"	02:27
david__	k i did that	02:28
tekteen	david__: what did it say?	02:28
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: kde timeout = Auto suspend?	02:28
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: yeah XD	02:28
nosrednaekim	sorry, I don't have a system settings window here ;)	02:28
W8TAH	np	02:28
W8TAH	its resetting the sound sytem now	02:29
tekteen	david__: after u typed pwd, what came back?	02:29
david__	tekteen it says /home/david	02:30
tekteen	david__: ok	02:30
tekteen	david__: type "ls Desktop"	02:30
tekteen	david__: what comes back?	02:31
david__	k i see ndiswrapper	02:31
tekteen	ok	02:31
tekteen	david__: is it colored blue?	02:31
W8TAH	nosrednaekim: that got it i think!!!!	02:31
david__	yes	02:32
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: w00t	02:32
W8TAH	ya - NO DOUBT	02:32
W8TAH	thanks to all	02:32
nosrednaekim	W8TAH: yeah.. thats a nasty little "feature"	02:32
tekteen	david__: type "cd Desktop/FOLDER-U-Found"	02:32
W8TAH	ya -- i can see that	02:32
tekteen	david__: replace FOLDER-U-Found with the folder	02:33
david__	tekteen didnt work	02:35
tekteen	david__: what was the error	02:36
tekteen	?	02:36
david__	no such file or directory	02:36
tekteen	david__: type "cd Desktop"	02:36
david__	k	02:37
david__	did nothing	02:37
tekteen	david__: ok	02:37
tekteen	david__: type: ls	02:37
tekteen	david__: what does it say?	02:37
david__	tekteen now i see it in blue	02:38
tekteen	ok	02:38
tekteen	david__: type "ls FOLDER-U-FOUND-IN-BLUE"	02:38
tekteen	david__: anything in caps needs to be replaced by u	02:39
=== Che is now known as CheGuevara
nosrednaekim	tekteen: just to let you know (not that is really important or anything) its general practice to enclose anything that needs to be replaced by a user in <> signs..	02:40
tekteen	nosrednaekim: ok	02:40
tekteen	david__: Anything in <> needs to be replaced by u	02:40
tekteen	nosrednaekim: thanks :-)	02:41
david__	TEKTEEN WAT DO U MEAN	02:41
david__	sry caps	02:42
arrrghhh	can someone tell me what's wrong with this code? "sudo wget http://apt.mediatomb.cc/key.asc -O- -q \| sudo apt-key add -"	02:42
arrrghhh	oops sorry i should've pastebinned....	02:42
nosrednaekim	tekteen: no...I mean in your original command	02:42
nosrednaekim	arrrghhh: no, tats ok	02:42
arrrghhh	well it asks for my password 2x in the same line...	02:43
arrrghhh	i put it in a pastebin anyways, http://pastebin.com/d1f3f38e6	02:43
tekteen	david__: type "ls <folder>" note: anything in <needs to be replaced>	02:43
tekteen	note: anything in <> needs to be replaced	02:43
nosrednaekim	and without the signs..	02:43
Neonix	Sound worked but after two songs, again the same error of sound card. I did the same solution but no result?	02:44
arrrghhh	david__: or quotes lol	02:44
arrrghhh	nosrednaekim: so there's nothing wrong with that code? it gives me a pw prompt 2x in the same line, and after i input my pw once successfully it just sits there but doesn't let me enter my pw again...	02:45
tekteen	david__: do u know how to use dos?	02:45
arrrghhh	screw it, i'll just run it as root. duh.	02:45
david__	TEK TEEN IM LOST	02:45
tekteen	david__: I know	02:45
nosrednaekim	haha	02:45
arrrghhh	david__: turn off the caps...	02:45
tekteen	david__: do u know dos?	02:45
david__	kinda	02:45
tekteen	david__: u know the command dir?	02:46
david__	yes	02:46
tekteen	david__: in linux it is ls	02:46
david__	ah	02:46
tekteen	and cd is cd	02:46
tekteen	david__: that is all I know of dos :-D	02:47
david__	hlaf the problem i dont know all theese weird names for stuf	02:47
david__	y would i type cd?	02:47
tekteen	david__: cd to the ndiswrapper dir	02:47
nosrednaekim	david__: and in addition, the tab key will coplete things for you.	02:47
tekteen	david__: we are trying to teach both the command line and ndiswrapper	02:48
tekteen	:-D	02:48
david__	kk	02:48
tekteen	david__: what does pwd say?	02:49
david__	just want my wireless to work	02:49
tekteen	now	02:49
kye	Anyone know of a fast and easy to use AVI to DVD converter?	02:50
nosrednaekim	!tovid	02:50
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:50
tekteen	kye: devede	02:50
david__	tekteen pwd says/home/david/desktop	02:50
nosrednaekim	!info tovid	02:50
ubotu	Package tovid does not exist in gutsy	02:50
kye	Devede is really slow for me.	02:50
nosrednaekim	david__: desktop is, no dount, capitalized?	02:51
david__	yes	02:51
tekteen	david__: cd to the ndiswrapper dir	02:51
BluesKaj	kye, what do you mean slow ...transcoding ?	02:51
kye	Yes	02:51
david__	tekteen how do i do that?	02:51
kye	Transcoding.	02:52
tekteen	david__: u know dos?	02:52
tekteen	david__: cd <folder>	02:52
BluesKaj	well, it takes a good 60-90 mins to transcode and author a full length movie from avi oe whatever codec to dvd mpeg	02:52
david__	no clue confusing me	02:53
tekteen	david__: what is the ndiswrapper folder called?	02:53
david__	ndiswrapper-1.51	02:54
tekteen	ok	02:54
tekteen	type "cd ndiswrapper-1.51"	02:54
tekteen	david__: next type "sudo make uninstall"	02:55
tekteen	david__: then type "make"	02:56
bazhang	http://www.ss64.com/bash/ david__	02:56
tekteen	bazhang: we do not need more confusion! :-)	02:56
bazhang	tekteen: sorry! :}	02:56
tekteen	bazhang: np	02:56
david__	wont let me type password	02:57
tekteen	david__: the pass is not shown	02:57
tekteen	david__: it is still there though	02:57
david__	ah	02:57
tekteen	david__: it is for security	02:57
david__	kk	02:58
david__	cool	02:58
tekteen	david__: have u done "sudo make uninstall" then "make" then "sudo make install"	02:58
david__	no	02:59
david__	just uninstall	02:59
tekteen	david__: each is a separate command	02:59
tekteen	david__: do them all	02:59
david__	kk	02:59
tekteen	david__: u have now (once u r done) compiled your first program! :-D	03:00
* CheGuevara claps		03:00
david__	tekteen u knew how to do this long time ago didnt u?	03:01
tekteen	david__: what do u mean. There is not much "long time." I am only 14	03:02
david__	its kool ive learned a bit about commands in linux	03:02
tekteen	david__: I have used linux since I was 8	03:02
mrtimbo	i was 14 in 92 lol	03:02
david__	ive used kubuntu for 2 days	03:03
smk_running_kde4	hey, I am using uim-anthy for typing japanese but it does not work in KDE applications. ??? Skype either... only GTK apps works with japanese... why ???	03:03
david__	lol	03:03
david__	did sudo install	03:03
nosrednaekim	smk_running_kde4: you probably need another tool for kde apps	03:03
tekteen	david__: once u are done go online and find the windows xp driver for the wireless	03:04
david__	i have disk that came with it	03:04
tekteen	david__: put in the disk	03:05
david__	kk 1second	03:05
tekteen	david__: then type "cd /cdrom"	03:05
=== ubuntu is now known as dandielionous
nosrednaekim	/media/cdrom?	03:07
dandielionous	stupid computer	03:07
dandielionous	hehehe	03:07
tekteen	nosrednaekim: both work	03:07
dandielionous	or maybe ot	03:07
dandielionous	s ,e	03:07
dandielionous	or maybe it's me	03:07
david__	tekteen wat was it supposed to do	03:08
nosrednaekim	dandielionous: PEBAK?	03:08
dandielionous	PEBAK????	03:08
tekteen	david__: get u ready for the following commands	03:08
tekteen	david__: do u know what the pastebin is	03:09
nosrednaekim	dandielionous: problem between brain and keyboard ;)	03:09
dandielionous	are you talking to me?	03:09
dandielionous	sorry	03:09
david__	lol nope	03:09
dandielionous	friend was asking me what this room was	03:09
tekteen	!pastebin \| david__	03:09
ubotu	david__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	03:09
dandielionous	Showing a friend what kubuntu can do.	03:09
nosrednaekim	dandielionous: yeah :D	03:10
tekteen	david__: nm	03:10
nosrednaekim	dandielionous: this is the support channel in case your freind didn't know ;)	03:10
tekteen	david__: type "ls"	03:10
david__	no clue wat that means	03:10
tekteen	david__: nm=never mind	03:10
dandielionous	Thank-you right.	03:10
dandielionous	He just said he could deal with chat rooms like this. :)	03:10
tekteen	david__: is the a file that is a ".inf"	03:11
BluesKaj	there are chat rooms on windows as well :)	03:11
nosrednaekim	hehe	03:11
nosrednaekim	BluesKaj: not like this one ;)	03:11
Ertain	Hello everyone. I'm trying to make my computer a router so that I can use my Xbox 360. So far nothing has worked. I've tried using Firestarter, installing libUPnP, and setting up the internal connection for it, but it still won't work. Any ideas?	03:11
Ertain	I can give the logs of the information coming from the 360.	03:11
dandielionous	I wonder why my dell that I was fixing for a friend would load kubuntu but would not load knoppix.	03:12
BluesKaj	I've been in here on windows - xchat	03:12
dsmith_	kubuntu has better hardware support?	03:12
dandielionous	Kubuntu has better library of drivers :)	03:12
dsmith_	same thing :)	03:13
nosrednaekim	!internetsharing	03:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about internetsharing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:13
nosrednaekim	!network	03:13
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	03:13
tekteen	Ertain: just to give u some quick help, u want to NAT and masquerade	03:13
dandielionous	yep yep got that right dsmith	03:13
tekteen	!nat	03:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:13
BluesKaj	:- )	03:13
dsmith_	I so hate gnats..	03:13
dsmith_	oh...your talking about NAT's	03:13
dandielionous	I could get damn small linux, puppy, kubuntu to load on this dell but not knoppix. Only the knoppix rescue disk.	03:14
dsmith_	i had that happen with knoppix before	03:14
dsmith_	oh well :(	03:14
dandielionous	I kind of like knoppix.	03:14
dsmith_	you like flux?	03:14
dandielionous	Don't think I've tried flux.	03:15
dsmith_	or e17 windowmanager?	03:15
dsmith_	btw	03:15
tekteen	david__: u here?	03:15
dandielionous	But I've tried mandriva and mandrrake	03:15
dsmith_	!ot	03:15
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	03:15
dandielionous	ty ubotu you are so correct :)	03:15
dsmith_	I have to remind myself	03:15
tekteen	david__: u here?	03:16
freddy	epa	03:16
freddy	eded	03:17
=== dsmith_ is now known as distrohapper
=== distrohapper is now known as distroh0pper
_CitizenKane_	hello all, i was wondering if it was possible to connect to an openVPN server with knetworkmanager, i do have network-manager openvpn module installed	03:18
tekteen	CitizenKane: there is a module?	03:18
_CitizenKane_	tekteen, maybe i shouldn't say module, a plugin maybe, let me double check	03:20
D-MAN	tekteen u ther	03:20
tekteen	D-MAN: yep	03:20
D-MAN	am i close to getting this working	03:20
tekteen	D-MAN: yes	03:20
tekteen	D-MAN: we now need to install the windows xp driver	03:21
D-MAN	i have my cd rom	03:21
_CitizenKane_	tekteen, alright, it's the open vpn plugin for network manager and it does exist	03:21
tekteen	D-MAN: is it in the comp.?	03:21
D-MAN	yes	03:21
tekteen	D-MAN: type "cd /cdrom"	03:22
D-MAN	no such file or directory	03:22
tekteen	D-MAN: type "cd /media/cdrom"	03:23
D-MAN	same message	03:23
Gidean	Hello everyone...	03:23
D-MAN	hello	03:24
nosrednaekim	D-MAN: cd /media/cdrom0	03:24
tekteen	nosrednaekim: thanks	03:24
nosrednaekim	hey... we don't know if it works yet ;)	03:24
D-MAN	no luck	03:25
arrrghhh	so what's the best method to get a program to run at startup? like mediatomb, knotes...	03:25
nosrednaekim	!autostart	03:25
ubotu	To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.	03:25
arrrghhh	hrm... is there a handy way to tell me what a kcontrol item is?	03:26
nosrednaekim	arrrghhh: its a module for kcontrol, which you can run by typing "kcontrol" lol	03:26
arrrghhh	uh	03:26
_CitizenKane_	arrrghhh, kcontrol is the KDE configuration program	03:26
arrrghhh	oh... der. thanks lol	03:26
J23	ardchoille: are u there?	03:26
tekteen	D-MAN: is there a pic. of a cd on the desktop	03:26
_CitizenKane_	arrrghhh, you can hit alt-f2 and then type "kcontrol"	03:26
Gidean	I just installed an AGP Video card in my desktop, switched up the bios to uses it and rebooted. Unfortunatly now the screen goes black (and eventually to sleep) after running the "local boot scripts". I hear the Ubuntu login sound but no visual. Any ideas?	03:27
arrrghhh	yea i did, i feel stupid now.	03:27
_CitizenKane_	meh, it's fine, there are always too many names in the open source world	03:27
D-MAN	dont see one	03:27
tekteen	D-MAN: take out and put back the cd	03:28
D-MAN	kk i did	03:28
D-MAN	asks wat i want to do	03:29
_CitizenKane_	Gidean, i'm guessing X on your system is dying because of the new video card	03:29
tekteen	D-MAN: open in file manager	03:29
ardchoille	J23: I'm here	03:29
J23	ardchoille: u r always here.. haha	03:29
J23	ardchoille: I'm dany man =)	03:30
D-MAN	how do i do that	03:30
Gidean	citizenKane, I booted in recovery mode and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it recognized the new card....	03:30
ardchoille	J23: :)	03:30
Gidean	I'm stumped...	03:30
oem	woah	03:30
tekteen	D-MAN: now in the konsole type "cd /media/cdrom0"	03:30
_CitizenKane_	Gidean, what kind of video card is it?	03:30
D-MAN	how do i open in file mamnager	03:31
Gidean	this may be a dumb question but: I plugged the monitor into the card's port not the old one. this is correct, right?	03:31
_CitizenKane_	Gidean, ya that's right	03:31
tekteen	D-MAN: nm that	03:31
_CitizenKane_	Gidean, maybe you don't have the xserver driver package for your card installed?	03:31
Gidean	nvidia nv34 geforce fx 5200	03:32
D-MAN	so cancel opening it	03:32
arrrghhh	would i have to restart my machine for that kcontrol-autostart package to take it's effect on kcontrol? i restarted it... nothing (and i was confused because it's normally called "KInfoCenter"...)	03:32
tekteen	D-MAN: yes	03:32
_CitizenKane_	arrrghhh, let me check	03:32
tekteen	D-MAN: then type (in the konsole) "cd /media/cdrom0"	03:33
D-MAN	no such file or directory	03:33
BluesKaj	KInfoCenter and kcontrol are 2 different things	03:33
_CitizenKane_	arrrghhh, in kcontrol it was there immediately after i installed it	03:33
arrrghhh	BluesKaj: they are?	03:33
tekteen	D-MAN: click the cd pic on the desktop	03:34
arrrghhh	oh der they are. what is it called then?	03:34
D-MAN	dont see one	03:34
tekteen	D-MAN: ok	03:34
_CitizenKane_	arrrghhh, the module is called autostart manager, it's under KDE Components in kcontrol	03:35
tekteen	D-MAN: get the driver online	03:35
D-MAN	kk	03:35
D-MAN	download to desktop	03:35
tekteen	yes	03:35
somekool	after each apt-get install I get this error, could any else HELP please ? http://www.pastebin.ca/833324	03:35
Gidean	brb	03:36
D-MAN	do i get drivers from lynksys	03:36
tekteen	D-MAN: there website	03:37
_CitizenKane_	somekool, well that error doesn't help much, you can check the system log which is at /var/log/syslog	03:37
tekteen	what is the model of the wireless	03:38
J23	ardchoille: did u get my msg?	03:38
se7en	somekool: try sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	03:38
tekteen	D-MAN: what is the model of the wireless	03:38
BluesKaj	tekteen, arrrghhh , another way to add or delete apps from auto start is copy and paste them here : kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart	03:38
tekteen	BluesKaj: y r u talking to me?	03:39
_CitizenKane_	tekteen, i'm guessing his mis-tabbed ;)	03:40
tekteen	yep	03:40
BluesKaj	oops	03:40
tekteen	I did not know tab did that	03:40
D-MAN	WMP54G LINKSYS	03:40
tekteen	ok	03:41
_CitizenKane_	tekteen, that is could mis-tab or that it auto-completed names?	03:41
D-MAN	SAYS I NEED SOME FLASHPLAYER	03:41
BluesKaj	anyway getting tired i reckon...better hit the sack	03:41
D-MAN	sry caps	03:41
tekteen	D-MAN: what does?	03:41
D-MAN	there website	03:41
tekteen	ok	03:41
tekteen	I found the driver	03:42
D-MAN	how	03:42
tekteen	D-MAN: what is the revision?	03:42
somekool	se7en: http://www.pastebin.ca/833328 <-- getting an error anyway	03:43
tekteen	D-MAN: 1? 2? 4? 4.1?	03:43
D-MAN	wat number is that?	03:43
D-MAN	4.1	03:43
tekteen	D-MAN: ok	03:43
somekool	cat /var/log/syslog ... does not show a thing about apt or kdm	03:43
_CitizenKane_	somekool, anything about dpkg?	03:44
cuking_1	D-MAN I simply use the flashplugin-nonfree package	03:44
tekteen	cuking_1: it does not work	03:44
somekool	_CitizenKane_: no	03:44
D-MAN	wre do u obtain this	03:44
cuking_1	tekteen it works for me.	03:44
tekteen	cuking_1: it broke	03:44
somekool	there is a dpkg.log though	03:44
cuking_1	okay	03:44
_CitizenKane_	somekool, well, i suppose that would help :P	03:45
tekteen	D-MAN: go to http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859843981&packedargs=sku%3D1150490054358&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4398154358B03&displaypage=download#versiondetail	03:45
somekool	2007-12-26 22:40:11 startup packages configure	03:46
somekool	2007-12-26 22:40:11 configure kdm 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1	03:46
somekool	2007-12-26 22:40:11 status half-configured kdm 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1	03:46
somekool	three lines only	03:46
_CitizenKane_	somekool, there a log file for apt?	03:47
D-MAN	wich driver do i need?	03:47
se7en	somekool: what doese df -h say	03:47
tekteen	D-MAN: at that site u want the link that says "Driver"	03:48
somekool	df -h ? it says I need a new harddrive	03:48
D-MAN	below the vists driver?	03:48
tekteen	yes	03:49
arrrghhh	ok time to test by restartin...	03:49
se7en	somekool: :) the error could show up when your boot drive is at 100%	03:49
tekteen	D-MAN: did u download it?	03:49
somekool	still got at least a 1GB on every partitions	03:50
se7en	if that is not the case try apt-get -f install	03:50
D-MAN	yes	03:50
tekteen	D-MAN: type "cd .."	03:50
tekteen	that is 2 dots at the end	03:50
D-MAN	k	03:50
somekool	se7en: thing is ... kdm is installed and it works fine ... I use it everytime I turn on my computer ;) it just apt-get that complains about it ...	03:51
D-MAN	then	03:51
somekool	and also the fact it feels like its trying to launch a second X on a separate tty	03:51
tekteen	now type "sudo apt-get install cabextract"	03:51
somekool	http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg	03:52
tekteen	D-MAN: then type "cabextract WMP54Gv4.1_20051117"	03:52
tekteen	D-MAN: no	03:53
se7en	somekool: try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error	03:53
tekteen	D-MAN; I messed up	03:53
tekteen	D-MAN; type "mkdir driver"	03:53
tekteen	then cd driver	03:53
tekteen	"cd driver"	03:53
D-MAN	wen i typed sudo cabextract says another process is using it	03:55
somekool	se7en: i just did it , and it did the same thing...	03:55
somekool	i dont really want to remove it and reinstall it ...	03:55
tekteen	D-MAN: not sure why	03:55
D-MAN	unable to lock admiin directory	03:56
tekteen	D-MAN: what is your im?	03:56
D-MAN	updater is running	03:57
tekteen	D-MAN: ok	03:57
D-MAN	is that y	03:57
tekteen	D-MAN: yes	03:57
tekteen	u can not run two installing programs at the same time	03:57
somekool	too late !! going to bed !!! thanks all, have a good night	03:58
tekteen	D-MAN: have u installed cabextract?	03:59
D-MAN	no	03:59
tekteen	can u stop the updater?	03:59
D-MAN	its done	04:00
tekteen	ok	04:00
crxyem	is there any program that will install or convert a mac osx .pkg installer package to something usable by linux ?	04:00
tekteen	D-MAN: then "mkdir driver"	04:01
tekteen	"mv WMP54Gv4.1_20051117.exe driver/"	04:01
tekteen	cd driver	04:02
tekteen	cabextract WMP54Gv4.1_20051117.exe	04:02
tekteen	tell me when u have done those commands	04:03
D-MAN	try mv help for more info	04:03
crxyem	looks like someone is trying to get WPA working	04:04
crxyem	well, drivers for your wireless at least	04:04
sfears	hello	04:04
tekteen	D-MAN: Can u give me your email address. My mom says I need to go to sleep. :-P	04:05
D-MAN	mv missing destination file operand	04:05
etfb	crxyem: I'm given to understand that trying to mix different package systems (deb, yum, rpm, etc) is a dangerous pastime. Not sure if you're n00b or Linus in disguise, but be careful.	04:05
D-MAN	sunroofdave@yahoo.com	04:05
tekteen	D-MAN: thanks	04:06
D-MAN	thnx for your help	04:06
sfears	is there a gui to configure multiple monitors.. specifically thru an nvidia card with an svideo cable to my tv?	04:06
etfb	D-MAN: Probably should have said /msg tekteen [your message] there...	04:06
tekteen	etfb: D-MAN is not registered	04:06
tekteen	etfb: would not work	04:07
tekteen	D-MAN: bye	04:07
etfb	tekteen: Ah! Well, you just need /msg nickserv identify [some password], but I guess it's not like there are spambots harvesting #kubuntu for addresses they can't get a million other places.	04:07
Evolution2	I keep getting this "cannot mount external drive error. and appearently I have to force it because it seems to be in generic mode. I don't have windows to do a safely remove. help please	04:08
etfb	Evolution2: Do you see any informative errors if you try dmesg in a konsole?	04:08
etfb	Evolution2: ... or cat .xsession-errors	04:08
Evolution2	yes sir	04:08
Evolution2	hold on	04:08
Evolution2	its this	04:08
eagles051387	flaccid: i made a back up of xorg once i reinstalled for safte purposes	04:09
etfb	!pastebin \| Evolution2	04:09
ubotu	Evolution2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	04:09
eagles051387	world of warcraft is working like a charm	04:09
arrrghhh	sweet, that autostart control worked... thanks!	04:09
crxyem	etfb: then there exists a way to do it , I've used alian to convert yum and rpm packages to .deb, but this is a mac osx package insaller	04:10
etfb	crxyem: Then you're more experienced than me. I was going to try using alien for something but the warnings scared me off. Not sure what distro Darwin is based on -- hang on, it's BSD, isn't it?	04:10
arrrghhh	although, is there a general one for linux? or at least ubuntu... like /usr/share/autostart would be better huh.	04:11
Thingus	eagles051387: Wine?	04:11
arrrghhh	can you just make symbolic links to that directory?	04:12
michal_	hi people, is normal that my kubuntu is taking above 500MB of memory after start?	04:13
arrrghhh	michal_: it swaps a lot...	04:13
michal_	it's not..	04:13
arrrghhh	like caches to ram.	04:13
michal_	Mem: 1035124k total, 474300k used, 560824k free, 7144k buffers	04:13
michal_	Swap: 2000084k total, 34784k used, 1965300k free, 228056k cached	04:13
arrrghhh	it uses ram instead of swap	04:14
eagles051387	Thingus: what bout wine	04:14
Dragnslcr	michal_- depending on what you have running, 500 MB is fairly reasonable	04:14
Evolution2	etfb: http://pastebin.com/m6b1760fe	04:14
arrrghhh	i prefers ram to swap because it's quicker... it uses swap when it absolutely necessary (unless you configure it.)	04:14
se7en	MemTotal: 2074792 kB	04:15
se7en	MemFree: 113588 kB	04:15
etfb	Evolution2: You or the OS will need to create the directory /media/[name of disk] before you can mount the drive manually	04:15
etfb	Evolution2: Back when I was having trouble with my USB drive, I did that and it was fine. Didn't need -o force either.	04:16
Dragnslcr	I have 1.5 GB used right now, but about half of that is cached	04:16
Thingus	eagles051387: Using WINE to run WoW?	04:16
Evolution2	etfb: ok. but I have plugged in	04:16
etfb	Evolution2: But it might be worth copying stuff off and reformatting the drive, because Ubuntu got a lot fussier about broken formatting as of 7.04	04:16
Dr_willis_	I think someone needs to make a WowUbuntu Just to set up Wine and Wow Automaticially.... :)	04:16
bazhang	wowbuntu	04:17
crxyem	etfb yes, osx/darwin is a bsd based distro	04:17
michal_	who's trying run wiw?	04:17
Evolution2	etfb: so I just unplug this and create it?	04:17
michal_	*wow	04:17
bazhang	everyone?	04:18
etfb	Evolution2: Yes.	04:18
Evolution2	etfb: ok	04:18
arrrghhh	have fun supporting wowbuntu with all those different h/w configurations...	04:18
neville	erm, is it just me, or does gparted keep closing on its own?	04:18
etfb	Evolution2: Remember to make it generally readable, at least at first while you're fiddling with it:	04:18
etfb	Evolution2: mkdir /media/nameofdisk	04:18
etfb	Evolution2: sudo chmod 777 /media/nameofdisk	04:18
Evolution2	etfb: I was going to do mkdir /media/nameofdisk	04:19
etfb	neville: Confucius say: when your partition editor starts crashing, consider updating your backups quick smart.	04:19
distroh0pper	lol	04:20
neville	i have nothing to backup	04:20
neville	it's just incredibly annoying	04:20
etfb	neville: Alternatively, try qtparted, the KDE-specific port.	04:20
neville	ahh, okay	04:20
neville	thanks	04:20
etfb	neville: Or cfdisk if you prefer the konsole.	04:21
eagles051387	Thingus: yes i do	04:21
eagles051387	Thingus: u play wow	04:21
eagles051387	lol Dr_willis_ ill gett stareted on ur suggestion immediatley:p	04:21
Thingus	eagles051387: I thought about buying it today.	04:25
Thingus	But, decided not to. :/	04:25
eagles051387	Thingus: what held ya back	04:25
eagles051387	u need to start asap cuz they coming out with new expansion	04:26
eagles051387	in april or may	04:26
michal_	probably stupid question .), but does anyone here know what is difference in karamba script in memory showing using %fmb or just %fm with %fmb it show used something about 200 and with %fm 500. second one is right by top	04:26
crxyem	michal, maybe bit vs byte	04:27
Thingus	eagles051387: I'm not much into MMOs. I tried Guild Wars a bit back...	04:28
Evolution2	etfb: thanks a lot, that was weird I never had to deal with that before	04:28
eagles051387	Thingus: i have it too	04:28
eagles051387	Thingus: is quake 4 linux naitve as well	04:28
root	c	04:28
Thingus	There are periods where I might grind for a week, and then stop playing for an entire month or longer.	04:28
eagles051387	i know unreal 2k4 is	04:28
Thingus	eagles051387: Yeah.	04:28
etfb	Evolution2: What distro? I started getting odd behaviour with Feisty that never happened with Edgy.	04:28
eagles051387	kool i need to get em installed	04:28
etfb	Evolution2: It stopped when I reformatted the offending drive.	04:28
Thingus	eagles051387: http://zerowing.idsoftware.org -- That's the link for the Quake 4 installer.	04:29
eagles051387	kool ty	04:29
michal_	crxyem would the difference be 8x ?	04:29
bazhang	open arena on the eeepc haha	04:29
Thingus	eagles051387: Oh... Sorry...	04:29
Thingus	eagles051387: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com *	04:29
Thingus	That's the right one.	04:29
eagles051387	sweet i have doom 3 and expansion	04:29
Evolution2	etfb: I am on ubuntu studio right now running gnome. I also have ubuntu and kubuntu on the same harddrive along with Gentoo	04:29
etfb	!ot	04:29
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	04:29
eagles051387	night guys	04:30
etfb	Evolution2: Which version, I meant to ask.	04:30
Evolution2	etfb: gutsy	04:30
Evolution2	and some hardy	04:30
neville	okay, thanks for all your help	04:31
etfb	Evolution2: Oh well, you probably ran into the same problem. Your hard disk is probably a tiny bit flaky.	04:31
neville	back after formatting	04:31
Evolution2	oh	04:31
etfb	Evolution2: Not enough to cause problems, but enough to confuse Ubuntu.	04:32
Evolution2	indeed	04:32
Mr_Sonoma	i've added a second hard disk (a 20 gig with windows xp home) and have jumpered to be a slave, but when the system powers up it boots directly into windows, no grub bootloader at all, shouldnt i be able to see grub since grub is loaded on the linux disk, witch is jumpered to be the master drive?	04:33
Mr_Sonoma	or did i miss something?	04:34
etfb	Mr_Sonoma: Is your BIOS overriding the jumpers? Can happen with some recent ones.	04:34
Mr_Sonoma	hmmmm havent thought that direction	04:34
Mr_Sonoma	could be	04:35
etfb	Mr_Sonoma: BIOS makers keep fiddling with things to make it "easier". Trust noone!	04:35
Mr_Sonoma	MSI ms6340 main board not real recent	04:35
crxyem	michal, the differnce between bit and byte is 8x, but it's the only thing that seems logical, as 500 is not 8x larger then 200	04:36
sigma_123	we need a linux bios 2go mainstream!	04:36
SJrX	Hmmmm who do I ask KDE 4 RC2 Gutsy Questions too?	04:36
sigma_123	might as wel ask them here	04:36
SJrX	well actually problem one is that for some reason my screen resolution starts at some wierd value that is incorrect	04:37
SJrX	Problem to is that I installed the packages but none of the KDE 4 applications appear to be there	04:37
SJrX	i.e. System Settings, KRandrTray KDE4	04:38
sigma_123	why not try the livecd? installing it manually can b harder	04:39
sigma_123	not to mention riskier	04:39
SJrX	hmmmm	04:40
SJrX	already installed it	04:40
SJrX	and this is a VMWare Machine, so I'm not too concerned	04:40
SJrX	as well I'm a hardened veteran.	04:40
mrtimbo	how do i move that trash bin onto the desktop	04:42
SJrX	Next question is what is the KDE4 equivilant of kicker. It seems to crash when I use KDE 3 krandrtray.	04:43
NickPresta	On the nvidia website for the latest binary driver (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html), it shows version 169.07. When I open `nvidia-settings`, I see version: 100.14.19. How does this version number compare to that on the nvidia website? I assume the nvidia driver released on Dec. 20th, isn't available in the repos yet.	04:44
NickPresta	hey ardchoille	04:44
ardchoille	hi NickPresta :)	04:45
sigma_123	i dont get y people use kicker. its such a mission	04:47
SJrX	mission?	04:47
bazhang	kbfx is far superior	04:47
kye	In order to change the "K" button do i need a icon theme?	04:47
SJrX	is that even kde?	04:47
sigma_123	kbfx is the alternative kmenu hey?	04:48
bazhang	in the repos so yes if you mean does it work with kde--replacement for kmenu	04:48
sigma_123	i find it a mission because i find using actual shortcuts easier	04:49
SJrX	hmmmm I generally use konsole	04:49
sigma_123	btt i gues it depends on wat u use it 4	04:50
bazhang	true; useless mostly	04:50
sigma_123	lol	04:50
sigma_123	i remember kicker. took me about a month2figure out wat it did	04:51
bmk789	how do i configure katapult?	04:51
bmk789	!katapult	04:52
ubotu	katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.	04:52
sigma_123	oops i was talking bout katapult. nt kicker	04:52
sigma_123	!kicker	04:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:53
sigma_123	what is kicker?	04:54
bazhang	http://www.kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy#Katapult_Configurations bmk789	04:54
kye	In order to change the "K" button do i need a icon theme?	04:54
sigma_123	katapult is wat i found 2b utterly useless	04:55
sigma_123	i think the k button is one icon. im sure u can change it seperately	04:56
bazhang	http://www.kde-look.org/ kye	04:56
kye	but im not sure on how to change the icon...	04:56
weijianhua	hello	04:56
ardchoille	kye: iirc, it's kmenu.png , search for that image and change it	04:57
sigma_123	yeah look there. those icons wil hav instructions but whats wrong with the k menu button?	04:57
bazhang	kye: do you have access to a prominent search engine? it took me 2 seconds to find that link :}	04:58
sigma_123	looks beta that someones start button. lol:)	04:58
sigma_123	i wonder how developed kde will be by the time the next microsoft release comes out	05:01
bazhang	2012? probably pretty far along	05:01
kye	thank you	05:01
sigma_123	it seems 2b catching up in leaps and strides	05:01
sigma_123	actually in some aspects its already way ahead of da game	05:02
sigma_123	at least it can run on more pcs than windows vista can:)	05:04
bmk789	bazhang: thanks	05:07
bazhang	no worries bmk789	05:08
bmk789	is anyone else using an intel X3100?	05:09
paperfunk	nope	05:13
bazhang	issues bmk789?	05:15
bmk789	bazhang: none yet, just wondering if its worth trying compiz fusion on it	05:16
bazhang	bmk789: why not? that seems to be the uber card these days :}	05:17
bmk789	i guess ill go for it	05:17
bmk789	"Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2a02' found" doesnt want to run	05:20
bmk789	ok now im impressed	05:21
bmk789	that was extremely easy	05:21
bmk789	and works very smoothly	05:21
bmk789	might drop my 6-7 hour battery life though	05:21
kkathman	greetings - in File management mode for Konqueror in Gutsy, where is the "Windows" menu option that allows you to split panes vertically and horizontally and thus add panes ?	05:27
kkathman	did this go away ?	05:27
bazhang	bmk789: haha on the battery life; but likely true	05:29
se7en	kkathman: view>split view or ctrl+shif+L	05:29
kkathman	se7en: In previous versions there was an option to split vertical or horizontal	05:32
kkathman	se7en: for instance if I wanted 4 panes in a 2 x 2 grid I could split left right, then split each pane top/bottom	05:32
kkathman	oh wait its under the view now??	05:32
kkathman	hmm	05:33
kkathman	but not available in dolphin :(	05:33
se7en	kkathman: dolphin only split into left and right konqueror as often as you like	05:34
kkathman	right	05:34
momal	Anyone here set up 5.1 before? I can't seem to get my center speaker working. Speaker is pluged in and does work in windows(or if i plug it into another slot) center is turned up in alsa mixer. doesn't work playing mp3s (amarok set in 5.1) or playing dvds that are 5.1 audio. rest of speakers are fine (except rear left/right when playing mp3s)	05:36
slim_	hello everyone, I'm having some problems with apache2 on kubuntu.... first one is: I can't seem to get apache to execute .cgi scripts, it just shows it as plain text	05:43
slim_	my other problem involves mysql only running once then having a problem restarting... any help on either issue would be appreciated	05:46
slim_	I am using 7.10 if that helps	05:47
slim_	am I communicating correctly in here?	05:50
NickPresta	slim_, yeah but there appears to be no one around who can help you with apache related questions. You might want to try pastebin'ing your whole question and asking it later	05:52
slim_	ok thank you, I wasn't sure if my messages were making it through	05:54
ardchoille	slim_: And there's always http://ubuntuforums.org	05:54
se7en	what does that error in kmail mean Recipient Rejected: Relay not allowed	05:55
slim_	...and google too, right?	05:56
NickPresta	slim_, as for the CGI problem, make sure you have: "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" directive (as well as ExecCGI to the Options directive). Aside from that, I don't know much about the Apache package in the repos.	05:56
* NickPresta sighs		05:56
Yurivilca	http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t	06:31
Yurivilca	Check out Mike Huckabee's latest psychotic utterance!	06:31
WaY	hi	06:40
Xplicit	hey	06:40
WaY	i dont have my system button on my kbuntu	06:41
WaY	how can i access here?	06:41
WaY	System -> Preferences -> Appearance	06:41
xbehave_	[06:43] <Xplicit> well im not100% as i use a system settings menu from pannel instead but my system settings (windows style 1) is under the command ' systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m ' way	06:47
shashai	hi there can any one help me plz how to remove network manager ?	06:57
shashai	i want to install wicd	06:57
xbehave_	does it conflict?	07:01
Greenery	how to make kate render the japanese text properly?	07:09
Greenery	nvm found it	07:11
adamonline46	Hello. I can't rip a DVD for the life of, doesn anyone have a suggestion that might help me out?	07:13
SJrX	don't commit felonies	07:13
adamonline46	Hah, I just want to choose which machine I want to watch it on, and store the DVD itself somwhere out of the kids reach	07:14
SJrX	hmmm	07:15
SJrX	but you live in America. You elected a government which does not believe in Fair Use Rights.	07:15
ardchoille	SJrX: That's ot, please take it elsewhere	07:15
SJrX	hmmmm	07:15
adamonline46	The funny thing about an election is that 49% of folk can disagree with the 'majority', and still be ruled by a government that's humiliated me.	07:16
adamonline46	er, something to that effect. I just want to copy a damn DVD so _I_ can watch it. If you can help me, please do 8)	07:16
ardchoille	!dvd	07:17
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	07:17
ardchoille	adamonline46: k9copy does a good job of copying dvd's	07:17
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SJrX	KDE changes my screen size when I log in. Where do I change this?	07:18
hypernewbie	kcontrol	07:19
adamonline46	ardchoille: Dang, yeah... That's what I'm using. It seems to work, but I only get sound and freezing/long-term screenshots when I try to play the ripped AVI's. Other than that, I can see it ripping, and it doesn't throw any errors. I'm going on a couple months with this issue, it just resurfaced. If anyone (or you, ardchoille) might be willing to help me beyond Ubotu calls, I'd be ever grateful 8)	07:19
SJrX	hypernewbie that doesn't seem to save ever.	07:20
SJrX	and shudder um, this is KDE 4	07:20
ardchoille	adamonline46: I know acidrip can rip a dvd into a nice avi, maybe check out acidrip	07:20
hypernewbie	SJrX: wierd	07:21
adamonline46	SJrX: You can look under /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and delete any screen resolutions that aren't what you want... I suspect that will 'force' a proper resolution for ya...	07:21
adamonline46	ardchoille: I shall, thank you :)	07:21
SJrX	hmmmmm that won't work either as I need the other resolution	07:21
ardchoille	adamonline46: yw	07:22
SJrX	KDE 4 seems to render 1280x1024 backwards.	07:22
SJrX	as in it renders 1024x1280	07:22
SJrX	and when I resize it, the Kbar doesn't move.	07:22
SJrX	which is all but useless.	07:22
adamonline46	ardchoille: Well, it seems to be working about as much as k9copy so far... I'll let you know, if you don't mind helpin me out, should this fail 8)	07:26
ardchoille	adamonline46: I'm not much at copying dvd's, I have copied one once or twice and I know k9copy and acidrip can do it. Beyond, that I'm afraid I won't be much help.	07:27
adamonline46	ardchoille: Very well, I appreciate it... I've got about as much experience as you :) I think I only own like 8 or so DVDs, I just decided I'd rather not have to hunt through the 'massive' pile to play the one I want; I'm a file kinda guy 8) Happy holidays, etc; thanks again 8)	07:30
ardchoille	yw :)	07:32
adamonline46	ardchoille: <3 finally! :D	07:36
ardchoille	adamonline46: Did acidrip do it?	07:41
adamonline46	I think so. It seems to have only ripped one episode (got family guy DVDs for xmas), but it works! I'm gonna play with it some more and make sure it's the acidrip rip that's functional, I'm almost positive it is 8) Thank again!	07:45
ardchoille	Glad it's working, play with it and you might figure out more :)	07:47
adamonline46	Yeah, definitely... It's still actin' weird, but at least I got some video out of it... Well, I've got to put it off til tomorrow... Gnight 8)	07:52
sigra	How do you set ubuntu to auto login	08:01
sigra	on bootup	08:01
gryc	sigra: http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg35t03.htm	08:03
gryc	and with that, anyone know if there's an applet like Kxkb but for languages instead of keyboard layouts?	08:04
sigra	i dont have a login manager and not sure which package gives it..when search for it on add/remove program	08:05
jussi01	sigra: you are on kubuntu?	08:06
sigra	yes but i installed gnome on it..and using gnome	08:07
jussi01	sigra: it should be under system settings -> advanced -> sessions	08:07
sigra	with kdm on boot	08:07
jussi01	sigra: #ubuntu for gnome help ;)	08:07
kraut	moin	08:16
sigra	I have question. I am only one with login to my system but when i went log out..it showed another login on the kdm...sabayon-admin?	08:17
ardchoille	sigra: sabayon? Are you using kubuntu or sabayon?	08:21
sigra	I am using kubuntu	08:21
ardchoille	sigra: At the command prompt, type: who	08:21
ardchoille	That should tell you who is logged in	08:21
sigra	i rebooted just shows me now but when i go to login window. it shows a user named sabayon-admin with a home directory of /var/run/sabayon-admin	08:22
sigra	when I do who	08:22
rbb	hi everyone	08:26
sigra	wierd. not having to give a password to open up add/remove program now either.	08:27
ardchoille	sigra: Did you happen to enable the root account?	08:28
rbb	i've got a problem. I was messing with xgl, but it didn't work and now i cannot logon. I get the kdm prompt, enter my username and then it doesnt do anything. I just get my background and nothing else	08:28
rbb	i also tried to install kde 4 rc	08:28
sigra	root dont work on my computer for somereason	08:28
sigra	never has	08:29
noaXess	!suspend	08:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	08:29
ardchoille	sigra: That's good, that is the way it's supposed to be	08:29
ardchoille	!xgl \| rbb	08:29
ubotu	rbb: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	08:29
sigra	but its not asking me for password now..when i enter alot packages it used ask for	08:29
rbb	how do I delete that shit	08:30
sigra	and I have a user showing up on my list now that i have no ideal who it is	08:30
ardchoille	sigra: If you've recently input the password, it won't ask you again for a short time, the admin passwd gets cached	08:30
sigra	yeah but i rebooted and just click it and went right on in	08:30
ardchoille	rbb: Perhaps someone in #compiz-fusion can help you with xgl stuff.	08:30
ardchoille	sigra: Weird	08:30
sigra	how do i check to see if root is enabled or not?	08:31
rbb	but i DON'T need it. It has to be REMOVED. My GPU isn't supported	08:31
rbb	i can start kde manually...	08:32
rbb	(failsafe, startkde), but if it's ready, my session is closed and i get another logon prompt	08:33
ardchoille	sigra: You can do "sudo cat /etc/shadow" and the root account should be listed with a "!", (example: root:!:) instead of a "*" at the top of that file. That means the root account is locked.	08:33
rbb	how do i force xorg to start kde by default? I just installed kde 4 rc2	08:34
yesdup	Hi all. does anyone know how to use kgpg to encrypt files. At the moment all it seems to be doing is creating an encryted copy and leaving the original free to be opened???	08:35
sigra	there is no ! in the root string	08:36
ardchoille	yesdup: In the kgpg options, there is a setting to Shred source files and you can find that in the encrypted section of the kgpg options	08:36
ardchoille	sigra: Does it show up as "root:*:" instead?	08:37
rbb	when i do "startx" i only get a black&wite back wih an x in the middle	08:37
sigra	yes	08:38
sigra	hey i figured out why i got sabayon-admin as a user	08:38
sigra	its part of that user profile i installed i think lol	08:38
sigra	gonna remove that dont need it	08:39
ardchoille	sigra: Maybe you set that as the host when you installed?	08:39
sigra	no. I know about root..i was using fedora but jsut switch to this..I never mess with it..i use sudo	08:39
ardchoille	ok	08:40
sigra	I been using sudo	08:40
sigra	how do i turn root off?	08:40
rbb	ok , i could start KDE, but not the new 4, but the old 3.5	08:41
ardchoille	sigra: To lock the root account: sudo passwd -l root	08:41
sigra	says password changed	08:42
ardchoille	yes	08:42
rbb	where can i find kde in my filesystem?	08:42
crazy_bus	I have a weird problem in kaffeine. When I´m watching a dvd and alt+tab to another program and come back everything inside the windows starts to shake while playing. It also continues when I pause. It sometimes stops after a few seconds and other times doesn´t is there any way to fix it?	08:42
sigra	thank you ard..now it has that mark !	08:43
ardchoille	sigra: Good job :)	08:43
rbb	anyone?	08:43
rbb	where can i find the kde dir on my filesystem?	08:43
yesdup	Now does anyone know why i cant connect to gmail chat using jabber. i've double checked password and user name, also tried without firewall (gaurddog) i have jabber and irc ports open. Kopete says "cannot contect as service is not allowed" ???	08:43
sigra	now figure out why amarok which was workign great..is now saying i have no plug ins and other errors. i been googling ..seems there is very bad bug with it	08:44
ardchoille	rbb: find / -type d kde	08:44
ardchoille	yesdup: I didn't know you could use jabber to connect to gmail	08:45
dhq	is there any finger print software for linux	08:45
ardchoille	yesdup: gmail is an email protocol, jabber is a chat protocol, I could be wrong, but I don't think they can connect to each other	08:46
yesdup	Opps did i read wrong some where :-(	08:46
ardchoille	yesdup: Maybe you did, or maybe you confused gmail with google talk?	08:47
yesdup	Yes i meant google talk. but i use my gmail account to access	08:47
ardchoille	yesdup: I don't think jabber can do that	08:48
yesdup	http://www.asinen.org/info/kopetetalk/ just found this quickly.	08:49
rbb	found it	08:49
rbb	bye	08:49
ardchoille	yesdup: I stand corrected. And thank you, that is information I didn't previously have.	08:50
patrick_	Hallo! I have an ATI Mobility X1400. When I updated to the december driver release of ATI my resolution sucks. I don't get my 1600 which i had previously... any idea what could be the problem?	08:52
yesdup	Just for info. finnally connected to google talk. all connection options must be checked	09:02
yesdup	also the server is talk.google.com not gmail.com	09:02
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rioner	hello	09:23
jussi01	!hi	09:23
ubotu	Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	09:23
rioner	any one know how to comprees file with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?	09:24
rioner	any one know how to comprees file using KONSOLE with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?	09:24
arturo	=S	09:28
arturo	hola?	09:28
ardchoille	Hi arturo	09:30
jussi01	!es \| ardchoille	09:30
ubotu	ardchoille: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	09:30
jussi01	!es \| arturo	09:30
ubotu	arturo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	09:30
arturo	=O thank's =)	09:31
* ardchoille blinks		09:31
rioner	any one know how to comprees file using KONSOLE with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?	09:31
ardchoille	rioner: I can only point you to the manpage for tar, I think tar can do that.	09:32
jussi01	!tar	09:32
ubotu	Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression	09:32
rioner	<ardchoille> rioner: I can only point you to the manpage for tar, I think tar can do that. <<< How and where the main page ?	09:35
llutz	rioner: "man tar" in a console	09:36
jussi01	rioner: type man tar	09:36
jussi01	!man	09:36
ubotu	The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	09:36
corporeal	aaaah finally home in my dear kubuntu	09:42
corporeal	how i missed you	09:42
* corporeal swears never to put vista on this thing again		09:42
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sarve	hi	09:51
jussi01	!hi \| sarve	09:51
ubotu	sarve: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	09:51
sarve	is it possible to have both kde and gnome	09:52
corporeal	sarve: of course.	09:52
sarve	?	09:52
corporeal	sarve: i personally install ubuntu-desktop and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on top of it. i get both kde3 and whatever gnome version comes with ubuntu	09:52
corporeal	sarve: if you wanna get real crazy, get ubuntu-server and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop, then kubuntu-desktop. :-p	09:53
sarve	I know that i can find these information by searching google. but its fun to chat about it	09:53
corporeal	:-p	09:53
sarve	my monitor is kind of low, I'm now downloading alternate cd of ubuntu 7.10, is it possible to install kde on ubuntu later too?	09:55
sarve	i'm totally newbie on linux(kubuntu 7.04), i'm trying to learn more and then install it on my laptop	09:55
corporeal	sarve: of course it is. hehe	09:56
emilsedgh	sarve: yes its possible	09:56
corporeal	sarve: doing things on linux as far as software installation and removal, is such a far cry from what you're probably used to (on windows?) it'll blow your mind	09:56
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sarve	tell me about it, I used to work with corel linux on my pentium II but those days it seems like a hobby. but switching completely to linux is another story. although its really difficult to install a sotware whish is not listed in add/remove.	09:59
unix	a low ha	10:02
unix	any body here	10:03
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pag	unix, 297 nicks at the moment ;)	10:03
unix_	later	10:03
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sarve	i really miss itunes on linux. specially cover flow option. is there any clone for linux?	10:06
Lynoure	What is the cover flow option?	10:06
sarve	i dont need to work with ipod. i just miss the apple design	10:06
sarve	cover flow, when you see album artwork in a row with refelction	10:07
Lynoure	you can see album artwork in amarok, too, but not in that variant of eyecandy	10:07
sarve	for moree info: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5c/ITunes_7.5.png/800px-ITunes_7.5.png	10:08
sarve	yes i know. why apple doesn't want to make a linux version	10:09
sarve	I remeber a link on digg.com but it doesn't convince me	10:09
Lynoure	sarve: you could write them and ask.	10:10
Lynoure	Probably one reason they don't make a linux version is that most people do not ask for one	10:11
sarve	which OS has more user? OSX or Linux?	10:12
ardchoille	!ot \| sarve	10:13
ubotu	sarve: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	10:13
sarve	oh thank you. sorry	10:13
noobuntu	i have this problem. how can it be solved? wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device	10:15
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milestone	hi all	10:48
milestone	is it possible within kmail to convert an existing imap account to a disconnected imap account?	10:48
crazy_bus	I'm trying to view a dvd on my old computer. But when-ever their cpu activity it's extremly jittery. Feisty and previous versions never had this problem. Is there anyway to fix it?	10:50
ardchoille	!dma \| crazy_bus	10:54
ubotu	crazy_bus: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA	10:54
crazy_bus	ardchoille: it seems I have dma enabled	11:04
poison	mornin guys	11:05
jpatrick	moin	11:06
poison	im havin a TK error with aMSN whilke trying to access any users log	11:06
poison	while*	11:06
jpatrick	well, I've always used Kopete	11:07
michael	Good morning	11:09
michael	what makes USB ports stop working?	11:09
michael	they all have power, but they are not running my printer/flash drive/ipod or anything	11:10
michael	once in a while they will work, but the next day they wont	11:10
michael	it started happening after a fresh install of 7.10	11:11
michael	weird	11:11
Thecks	Is it possible to upgrade to KDE4 RC2 without overwriting my KDE install?	11:15
Thecks	For instance, I was on Gnome (Ubuntu), Installed KDE via apt and now I can select both from the login menu	11:15
Thecks	Can I do the same for KDE 4?	11:15
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Jucato	Thecks: yep. that's the way it's set up right now	11:17
Jucato	KDE4 RC2 will install in a different directory	11:17
Thecks	Awesome, do I get it via apt?	11:17
Thecks	I can see how to get it and build via SVN but... =p	11:18
pag	Thecks, consider reading the topic ;)	11:19
Thecks	I'll consider it =P ty	11:19
Thecks	FAQs?	11:20
pag	" KDE 4.0 RC2 Package & LiveCD http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php " ;)	11:20
michael	what makes USB ports stop working?	11:22
michael	it started happening after a fresh install of 7.10	11:23
michael	once in a while they will work, but the next day they wont	11:23
michael	they all have power, but they are not running my printer/flash drive/ipod or anything	11:23
Thecks	Thanks.. lots of downloading to do now =p	11:25
foibles	whoa, has anyone tried elive yet?	11:27
foibles	im on it right now, and its awesome	11:27
Thecks	I've tried it, wasn't too impressed to be honest =[	11:27
foibles	the way they put it together is excellent	11:27
foibles	Thecks, why not?	11:27
Thecks	Too many things didn't work as I wanted	11:28
Thecks	E.g. SD card readers and such	11:28
foibles	Thecks, its all working out nicely for me	11:28
foibles	even recognized my legacy video drivers	11:28
foibles	which most distros miss the mark on	11:28
michael	love the OSX look	11:33
sarve	i download firefox 3 beta and unzip it. but i don't know how to istall it. I searched on the internet but i can't found out.	11:34
sarve	thers is "run-mozilla.sh" file, but i can not run it with "sh" command	11:36
Ubuntubruger3	Hello there. I'm new to Linux and recently installed Ubuntu. Yesterday I added the Kubuntu-desktop. How do I active the compiz-fusion in Kubuntu? (it already works in Ubuntu)	11:39
emilsedgh	!compiz \| Ubuntubruger3	11:40
ubotu	Ubuntubruger3: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	11:40
Ubuntubruger3	thx	11:41
Ubuntubruger3	!compiz	11:41
ciao	hi	11:41
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	11:41
sarve	how can i install firefox beta on linux. I already download the zip(bz2) file	11:42
stdin	Ubuntubruger3: make sure you install "compiz-kde" and the press Alt-F2 and put in "compiz --replace"	11:42
ciao	would it work with 512 mb ram?	11:43
bazhang	sarve: it is in the repos if you want to try	11:43
stdin	ciao: kubuntu? yeah 512 is fine	11:43
ciao	compiz	11:43
bazhang	!info firefox-3.0	11:43
ubotu	firefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB	11:44
stdin	ciao: depends on what graphics card	11:44
ciao	I'm already in kubuntu finally....after messing around with vista and xp	11:44
ciao	I think 5400	11:44
stdin	ciao: nvidia or ati or what?	11:44
ciao	nvidia	11:44
stdin	ciao: as long as you install the nvidia driver, it should work fine	11:44
ciao	just installed on kubuntu	11:44
ciao	oooooook so I'll try thx	11:45
sarve	bazhang: even the beta version?	11:45
Thecks	uhmm..	11:45
Thecks	Install the updated kdebase-bin	11:45
Thecks	Install kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime, note that PPAs aren't authenticated so you will likely get a warning when installing	11:45
etfb	My Alt+Tab behaviour changed after I installed (and uninstalled) Compiz. It doesn't display the icons and titles in a window, just swaps immediately to the next task even when I hold the keys down. Any idea how to get the default behaviour back?	11:45
bazhang	sarve: apparently not	11:45
Thecks	I did that, yet I don't see any new apps, and I don't see any new option in the session menu for KDE 4..	11:45
stdin	ciao: if you installed 7.10 (gutsy), just go to System Settings -> Advanced (tab) -> Restricted Drivers and activate the driver :)	11:45
ciao	ok I'll do it	11:46
stdin	Thecks: you installed all the packages yet?	11:46
Thecks	stdin yup	11:47
Thecks	I did: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin	11:47
Thecks	And the same for kdebase-workspace, kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime	11:47
stdin	Thecks: have you tried logging out and seeing what sessions are available? (or switching user and starting a new session)	11:49
Thecks	I restarted X, checked.. nothing	11:49
Thecks	Restarted system, checked.. nothing	11:49
stdin	does /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop exist on your system?	11:49
Thecks	No	11:50
Thecks	@venus:/usr/share/xsessions$ ls	11:50
Thecks	gnome.desktop kde.desktop	11:50
etfb	Has anyone got compiz to work in KDE? It messed my system up completely when I tried, and I still have symptoms after removing it. Any positive experiences?	11:50
stdin	Thecks: try this "sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime" and see if it wants to install anything else?	11:51
Thecks	ok	11:51
Thecks	Nope.. nothing	11:52
Thecks	Reading state information... Done	11:52
Thecks	kdebase-workspace is already the newest version.	11:52
Thecks	kdebase-kde4 is already the newest version.	11:52
Thecks	kdebase-runtime is already the newest version.	11:52
Thecks	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.	11:52
stdin	Thecks: check if kdebase-workspace-data is installed	11:52
ciao	it won't let me modify ..I click on modify as root but nothing happens	11:53
Thecks	kdebase-workspace-data is already the newest version.	11:53
Thecks	kdebase-workspace-data set to manual installed.	11:53
stdin	Thecks: /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop is in kdebase-workspace-data	11:54
Thecks	Then that's weird	11:54
stdin	ciao: what won't?	11:54
Thecks	It says that it is installed and is the newest version	11:54
stdin	Thecks: what version is that package?	11:55
Thecks	How do I check?	11:55
ciao	in system settings advance restricted drivers....you can tick on the drivers but only if you are root....there's a botton that says become root but it doesnt wor	11:55
ciao	k	11:55
stdin	Thecks: "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace-data"	11:55
stdin	ciao: that's odd, try closing that down and running it directly as root by pressing Alt-F2 and putting in "kdesu systemsettings"	11:56
Thecks	Thanks	11:56
Thecks	Installed: 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1	11:56
Thecks	Candidate: 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1	11:56
Thecks	*** 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1 0	11:56
Thecks	500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-backports/universe Packages	11:56
Thecks	100 /var/lib/dpkg/status	11:56
Thecks	3.94.0-0ubuntu2 0	11:56
Thecks	500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages	11:56
stdin	Thecks: that's RC1, not RC2	11:57
Thecks	huh..	11:57
Thecks	I followed the instructions on here..	11:57
stdin	Thecks: make sure you added the http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu repo	11:57
Thecks	http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php	11:57
Thecks	I added http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main	11:57
stdin	Thecks: and you ran "sudo apt-get update" before installing the packages?	11:57
ciao	there's an error it says control that dcopserver is installed	11:57
Thecks	stdin: No.. no I didnt :s	11:58
* Thecks hides		11:58
stdin	Thecks: well, that's why :p, make sure you remove those old packages before installing the new ones or you'll have trouble	11:58
stdin	ciao: what's the exact error that pops up?	11:58
Thecks	So, what do I do from here?	11:59
Thecks	I've run update	11:59
ciao	it's in italian lol...so I'm translating it	11:59
Thecks	Do I reinstall the KDE 4 packages?	11:59
ciao	ok	11:59
ciao	I did it	11:59
ciao	thanks ...it was in the right down corner	11:59
stdin	Thecks: after removing the old ones (it says how on the instructions) you just install the packages again	11:59
ciao	restricted driver icon I pressed it and ticked it	11:59
Thecks	Ok	12:00
stdin	ciao: ok, it'll install the driver then ask you to reboot. after that it should be ready to go and you can get compiz on it	12:00
ciao	I installed the driver manually first	12:00
Thecks	Thank you stdin	12:00
* Thecks gives stdin several cookies		12:01
stdin	Thecks: no problem :)	12:01
ciao	sudo sh nvidia-blabla.run	12:01
ciao	stopping the kdm and all that	12:01
stdin	ciao: ah, well that's not the best way to do it, you'll have to reinstall the driver if there's ever a kernel update. but if it's all installed and working you can go ahead and install compiz	12:02
ciao	ok I didn't know that ..now I should wait for the next error	12:02
ciao	I'll try to install compiz...what's the easiest way?	12:03
stdin	!compiz \| ciao, follow this guide	12:03
ubotu	ciao, follow this guide: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	12:03
ciao	ok thank youuuuuu	12:04
stdin	:)	12:04
rbb	i've got a problem with kde 4	12:14
rbb	I hit kde4 in the KDM and it doesn't do anything	12:15
rbb	after a while, i get a new login prompt	12:15
rbb	anyone?	12:16
rbb	sorry, the systemcrashed	12:20
rbb	my system crashes every time I run startkde of kde4	12:20
rbb	and kdm doesnt do anything usefull	12:21
rbb	please ehelp	12:21
rbb	my sysyem does't do anything	12:21
rbb	srry, system	12:21
SSJ_GZ	rbb: It's still pre-release software, I'm afraid - crashing is still quite likely :/	12:22
Pici	KDE4 is beta. Expect issues. Plus this channel doesn't seem particularly active at this time, so be patient.	12:22
rbb	Anow the whole system is messed up	12:23
Thecks	Yeah, I've got problems	12:23
Thecks	Just updated and now Adept keeps saying the database is in use	12:23
Pici	!adeptfix	12:23
ubotu	If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	12:23
rbb	on the console, there are -'-s flickering all over the screens	12:23
hussain	f	12:23
Thecks	Awesome	12:24
rbb	and kde3 is also messed up	12:24
rbb	and kdm doesn't do anything anymore	12:24
rbb	kdm only runs "failsafe"	12:24
ueila	!compiz	12:25
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	12:25
taime1	what is the name of the window decoration in kubuntu?	12:29
bazhang	kwin taime1	12:29
taime1	its named after the window manager?	12:29
bazhang	kde is the desktop environment	12:30
taime1	you didnt understand my question	12:30
taime1	what is the name of the decoration?	12:30
taime1	the default decoration	12:31
pag	taime1, default decoration is called 'crystal' iirc	12:31
bazhang	taime1: me?	12:31
taime1	ah thanks	12:31
zipper	I have a logitech mx518 usb mouse. It has a "+" and "-" button for DPI increase/decrease. I want to remap these buttons to pageUP and pageDOWN. Every other button works with Device evdev in xorg.conf. What to do?	12:32
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=== ueila is now known as ciao
ciao	I have dual boot...give me some reasons to get rid of xp...I want to do it but I'm afraid	12:37
Lynoure	ciao: What are you afraid of?	12:37
ciao	I dk...I have tools and things that I'm used to...like visual web developer (i know everyone will hate me)..and actually I never tried to search the equivalent for linux	12:38
Lynoure	ciao: You could keep it until you only use it less than once a month. At that time you'll have to install upgrades to it every time, and that is pretty motivating for removing it :)	12:38
ciao	or devC++, but eclipse rules and I use it here	12:38
ciao	oooooook so from now on I'll do this	12:39
ubuntu_	ya quelqu'un ?	12:40
jpatrick	!fr \| ubuntu_	12:40
ubotu	ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	12:40
ciao	oui	12:41
ubuntu_	c'est bon là ?	12:41
ubuntu_	ah oui ^	12:41
ubuntu_	bonjour	12:41
ciao	moi j'essayerais a aller en italien	12:41
Pici	!it	12:41
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	12:41
ubuntu_	euh...ya unnn français ?	12:42
jpatrick	ubuntu_: /join #ubuntu-fr	12:42
ubuntu_	là c'est bon ?	12:42
ubuntu_	ya un français ?	12:43
herr_weltschaft	firefox: lesezeichen>lesezeichen-manager>exportieren funktioniet nicht so, wie es soll. in der so gespeicherten datei "bookmarks.html" steht dann nur ein einziges meiner lesezeichen	12:43
jpatrick	!de \| herr_weltschaft	12:43
ubotu	herr_weltschaft: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	12:43
herr_weltschaft	oh sorry	12:43
ueila	in some forums I saw that kubuntu is slower than ubuntu....but I didn't notice that much...actually in some things kubuntu is faster	12:45
ueila	is that right?	12:45
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bazhang	not much difference	12:45
=== KennethP_ is now known as KennethP
zipper	ueila: i think gnome might be a tad bit faster than gnome, although that should change when KDE4 is released	12:49
bazhang	gnome faster than gnome? perhaps :}	12:51
zipper	eh	12:52
zipper	gnome fastert than kde =)	12:52
zipper	i'm really on a roll today	12:53
zipper	faster*	12:53
bazhang	hehe	12:53
Thecks	KDE 4 is.... big...	12:55
jpatrick	Thecks: some consider it faster than 3	12:56
Thecks	Oh Speed it's nice	12:56
Thecks	I'm talking about the huge task bar at the bottom	12:56
Thecks	Trying to work out how to resize it	12:57
dm	Hello. I have a usb webcam 0c45:602c which is supported by the ubuntu included gspca driver. When plugging it in the driver is loaded (say dmesg and lsmod) and /dev/video0 is created. But I get error messages when trying to use it: xawtv says "X Error of failed request: XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode", camorama "Could not connect to /dev/video0". It's an ATI video card (if that matters). Any idea?	12:57
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Thecks	uhmm.. I'm not sure I like the look of KDE 5	13:07
Thecks	KDE 4*	13:08
=== NetersLandreau_ is now known as NetersLandreau
ueila	is there a way to chat directly in terminal and not irc? I'm using irssi now....I mean like inserting the ip or something	13:10
kalorin	ueila: not really	13:11
Dragnslcr	You can telnet to the IRC server if you want to	13:11
kalorin	it'd be like asking if there's a way to surf the web in a terminal, in any case you need a client even if it's a text mode client	13:11
ueila	=( that would be awsome	13:11
Dragnslcr	It'd be a complete pain, but you're welcome to try	13:11
kalorin	its' more about the protocols than anything else	13:12
kalorin	you'd have to know how to preface joins adn parts and nick changes and all the other stuff that IRC clients do for you	13:12
ueila	it would be shell messenger :D	13:12
ueila	yes I imagine the suffering	13:12
antixpaul	!lynx	13:16
ubotu	Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)	13:16
ueila	damir	13:22
ueila	sei damir di lugano?	13:22
damir	hi!	13:23
damir	english?	13:23
ueila	ok no it's not you :D	13:23
pawan	hi	13:24
damir	I have a little trouble installing ubuntu 7.10 :\	13:27
damir	the installer hangs when 'scanning partitions', thats about 15% progress	13:28
zipper	How do one use mono? I have a .net 2.0 application i want to see run in linux	13:28
dm	When I run `xawtv -hwscan` I get "/dev/video0: OK \n type: v4l2 \n name: SN9C1xx PC Camera \n flags: capture" but when I can't start xawtv and get "X Error of failed request: XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode". What's the problem here?	13:30
noaXess	hi all	13:36
noaXess	i put some own apps to my home folder to the subfolder apps..	13:36
noaXess	if i want run this apps over command line and want only put in the executable from the app, without the whole path, where can i define this PATH variable?	13:37
Pici	noaXess: add PATH=$PATH:/home/user/apps to your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile	13:38
Sanne	noaXess: I would make a link to your executable in /usr/local/bin	13:38
Sanne	or what Pici said :)	13:38
Pici	iirc, ~/bin/ is aleady in the path, whether it exists or not.	13:39
Sanne	noaXess: you can check your current PATH by typing: echo $PATH	13:40
Baldrun	hi all	13:41
Baldrun	I am trying to use nfs in combination with acl under kubuntu, unfortunately I can't find any info on how to set up acl fpr kubuntu, could anyone give me a hint or an idea? google results were not helpful so far	13:42
noaXess	Pici: thanks...	13:43
Tonren	I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10. My splash graphic is not appearing on boot-up, so I can't see how far into the boot process I am. (Also it's disconcerting to see absolutely nothing happening on the screen). How do I enable my boot splash?	13:47
damir	you probably need to change x display settings	13:48
Tonren	damir: How do I do that?	13:48
damir	well, you could edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you need to know what you're doing	13:49
Tonren	damir: I tend to know, but I don't know what I should change in xorg.conf to enable bootsplash.	13:49
Tonren	damir: I have a crappy integrated ATI 300Mobile graphics card, for which the restricted drivers have been enabled. Could the problem be there?	13:49
damir	hm.. possibly. did you see a bootsplash on 1st boot-up?	13:50
damir	and, does login screen look ok?	13:50
Tonren	damir: Unfortunately, I can't remember if I saw a bootsplash before they were enabled. THe login screen looks just fine, though.	13:50
Tonren	damir: My graphics driver is set to "fglrx", which I've heard awful things about. Should I try changing it to ATI?	13:51
damir	do you see a progress screen on system shut-down?	13:51
Tonren	damir: No.	13:51
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damir	yeah, try setting to 'ati'. but make a copy of xorg.conf before you do that. it could mess up your display	13:52
Tonren	damir: Don't worry, I know how to log in on the command line and edit xorg.conf without a GUI. No need for a backup.	13:52
Tonren	damir: Should I just restart X or completely shut down? The problem areas seemed to be with startup & shutdown, but it's kind of a hassle.	13:52
damir	for start, just restart x-server and see if your login screen is ok	13:53
damir	after setting to ati	13:53
Tonren	damir: Okey doke. Here goes.	13:53
damir	one more think	13:53
damir	thing	13:53
damir	will you know how to revert changes if your screen is messed up or your x-server doesn't wake up?	13:53
Tonren	damir: Okay, my login screen is fine.	13:54
damir	cool :)	13:55
Tonren	damir: I'm IRC'ing on a screen'd irssi session on Ctrl + Alt + F1's terminal right now. :-P	13:55
Tonren	damir: I guess I'll try restarting now.	13:55
damir	k, good luck	13:55
Tonren	Thanks! I'll be back to bellyache if it doesn't work. :D	13:55
Tonren	damir: No dice. :-\	14:02
Sanne	Tonren: you could disable it altogether and at least get the normal text boot messages	14:02
damir	try setting driver to 'vesa' just to see if it's really a driver issue	14:02
Tonren	Sanne: Naw, I'd rather figure out what's wrong and get the shiny boot splash.	14:03
Tonren	damir: Good idea. A moment, though; I'm going to Google for a second, and check the logs too.	14:03
Sanne	Tonren: ok, good hunt :)	14:03
fairman	Hi, i need support for right settings resolutions and frequency on my monitor. Corresponding part of xorg.conf is here - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49682/. I can use only the resolution 800x600 ... why? When i set the "driver" to "nv" instead of "nvidia" it is ok, but i can not use openGL support	14:04
noaXess	is there a kde mounting tool, that really mounts the networkshare ot any given mount.point? so i can access it over different app?	14:05
Sanne	Tonren: two bugs, might be related, might want to look over them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/90242	14:05
Sanne	https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/156225	14:05
Tonren	Sanne: Oh god... The "ati" driver's performance is AWFUL compared to "fglrx".	14:05
noaXess	i can manually mount a windows share to any mount point, eg. /home/user/server/share-name.. but a gui will be nice?	14:05
Tonren	Sanne: Dear god... the fix might be a CUSTOM KERNEL?!	14:06
Sanne	Tonren: dunno, just found those bugs and thought they might help you in some way :)	14:07
Tonren	Sanne: Haha, thanks. I sure hope I don't need to compile my own kernel.	14:07
Tonren	Maybe if I just reinstall or reconfigure the bootsplash package...	14:07
Sanne	Tonren: before doing that I really would just turn the splash off ;)	14:07
Sanne	Tonren: before compiling a kernel, I mean	14:08
Tonren	Sanne: Didn't your grampa tell you to never give up? ;P	14:08
Baldrun	has anyone acl working under kubuntu?	14:08
Sanne	Tonren: haha... I turned that darn thing off right away, I want to see the boot messages ;)	14:09
Tonren	Sanne: I used to feel that way, but I prefer the terse, shiny startup screen now. If something goes wrong, I just check the logs.	14:09
Sanne	Tonren: in that case, I wouldn't give up either, but if it's a known bug and you got bitten by it, you might need to build a kernel. So there ;)	14:10
Tonren	Sanne: True, true.	14:11
Sanne	:)	14:11
noaXess	any idea? a gui for handling mount points and add diffrent mount point like a network share?	14:12
jpatrick	noaXess: Filesystems in System Settings?	14:13
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noaXess	jpatrick: aha.. i see, there i can also add shares.. not only physical mounts :) thanks	14:15
risto	php's room is down ?	14:19
stdin	risto: you need to be identified to join it	14:19
noaXess	jpatrick: i don't know why... but i can configure all to connection to a win share but if i click ok, nothing happens..	14:23
noaXess	adding a network share over dolphin works, with the same settings.. but then no mount point will be created..	14:23
Tonren	Damn.	14:24
Tonren	Arrgh! How could this really need a custom-compiled kernel!?	14:33
Sanne	Because it's a bug?	14:34
Tonren	For some reason, every Ubuntu update breaks something on my laptop.	14:34
Tonren	On 6.10, my scanner GUIs stopped working. 7.04? Compiz crapped out. (though that's not really surprising.) Now, my bootsplash is gone.	14:35
axe	ciao	14:37
axe	ho bisogno di aiuto per ubuntu qualcuno mi puo aiutare ?	14:38
Jucato	!it \| axe	14:39
ubotu	axe: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	14:39
axe	ok	14:39
axe	grazie	14:39
Jeroi	!fi \| Jeroi	14:40
Karti	Hi all, anyone recommend software for mobile phones so I can put data to Kontact etc	14:41
zipper	What is the keyboard shortcut to "Show Desktop" - like win + d in windows xp	14:41
Jeroi	Karti does thunderbird have mobilephone support in addons?	14:41
Jeroi	zipper you need only one mouse klick	14:42
Jeroi	2nd image from left oh K-menu	14:42
Jeroi	*of	14:42
zipper	Jeroi: i dont want 1 mouse click =/	14:42
zipper	i want a keyboard shortcut	14:42
Jeroi	:)	14:42
* Tm_T slaps Jeroi		14:43
Karti	Jeroi: I was looking at the equivalent of the nokia pc suite type of thing	14:43
Tm_T	Karti: gammu & wammu ?	14:43
damir	zipper: what system version and what desktop manager?	14:43
Sanne	zipper: alt+ctrl+d here (it's customizable)	14:44
Tm_T	Jeroi: -fi is the key btw	14:44
damir	yay almost completed! i'm updating my 7.04 kubuntu. it's like, 550M of updates	14:44
zipper	damir: kubuntu 7.10, guess that means kde3.55	14:44
damir	zipper: like Sanne said :)	14:45
zipper	Sanne: ah, that works, thanks. Cant find it in keyboard & mouse settings though?	14:45
zipper	ah nvm	14:45
Sanne	zipper: I found it in Regional&Accessibility (Kubuntu Dapper)	14:45
zipper	i'm blind, found it	14:45
zipper	thanks	14:45
Sanne	:)	14:45
* Sanne would expect it in keyboard & mouse also		14:46
Karti	Tm_T: Many thnks will look at those Cheers	14:46
TheGateKeeper	!fstab	14:47
ubotu	The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	14:47
infosys	Buona sera a tutti	15:11
BluesKaj	Howdy all : -)	15:11
infosys	server italiano?	15:11
BluesKaj	!it \| infosys	15:11
ubotu	infosys: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	15:11
nightf0x	hi, i am running kubuntu 7.10 and it does not want to shutdown. wihtout splash screen it seems to hang at line that says something like "running local boot scripts"	15:12
nightf0x	the only way to pwer it down from that is to kill power	15:13
nightf0x	anyone know how to fix this?	15:13
BluesKaj	nightf0x: 'til you find what script is hanging the powerdown , try ctrl+alt+backspace, then use the login menu to shutdown . I had the same problem at one time and an update of some sort fixed it.	15:17
okkiopallato	pescara	15:18
stdin	!it \| okkiopallato	15:18
ubotu	okkiopallato: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	15:19
tekteen	D-MAN: r u here?	15:19
jussi01	!u \| tekteen	15:19
ubotu	tekteen: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..	15:19
tekteen	jussi01: ok	15:19
jussi01	:)	15:19
tekteen	jussi01: I am a slow typer	15:20
tekteen	:-)	15:20
vivek_	how to install firefox in kUBUNTU??	15:21
tekteen	vivek_: open a konsole	15:21
trappist	sudo apt-get install firefox	15:22
jussi01	vivek_: go to adept -> search firefox - > click install	15:22
tekteen	vivek_: and type "sudo apt-get install firefox"	15:22
tekteen	trappist: wow... I am a slow typer	15:22
vivek_	I HAVE ALREADY DOWNLOADED firefox-2.0.0.6.tar.gz	15:22
tekteen	vivek_: u do not need it	15:23
jussi01	tekteen: you...	15:23
dpreacher	hello. what is the package that comes installed with kubuntu gutsy to enable Fn-x key combos in laptop? are there separate packages for separate laptop models or one unified generic package?	15:23
vivek_	NOW HOW TO INSTALL FROM .TAR.GZ ??	15:23
Jucato	!caps \| vivek_	15:23
ubotu	vivek_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.	15:23
jussi01	vivek_: dont.	15:23
vivek_	SORRY	15:23
vivek_	sorry	15:23
dpreacher	:)	15:23
tekteen	vivek_: do i have a reason to install the .tar.gz?	15:24
Jucato	dpreacher: afaik, no you don't need anything for enabling Fn-x key combos. at least I didn't	15:24
dpreacher	firefox has a binary gui installer isn't it?	15:24
tekteen	vivek_: we suggest you use the package manager	15:24
BluesKaj	vivek, you came for advice , and your being advised to the package manager adept or apt to install the stable version of firefox	15:24
vivek_	thanx	15:25
dpreacher	BluesKaj: perhaps he should've mentioned he downloaded the tar first	15:25
vivek_	let me use the suggested method	15:25
dpreacher	i mean we get such slow speeds	15:25
dpreacher	to ask to redownload...sad sad thing	15:25
emilsedgh	after upgrading to gutsy i cannot change the brightness with Fn Up/Down :(, also bluetooth is broken, any idea?	15:26
vivek_	ye ....u r right dpreacher	15:26
BluesKaj	!tar \| viveki	15:26
ubotu	viveki: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression	15:26
tekteen	emilsedgh: click on the power manager	15:26
padey	!katapult	15:26
ubotu	katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.	15:26
tekteen	emilsedgh: that controls the brightness	15:27
dpreacher	Jucato: if i could know the package i could get em working in another distro. since ubuntu n family has it working readily. is there some way to find out from the installed software database i found fn-fx which is made for toshiba...	15:27
emilsedgh	tekteen: i know, that guidance, i want to control it with Fn keys	15:28
Jucato	emilsedgh: known Gutsy bug afaik	15:28
Jucato	dpreacher: sorry, no idea on that one...	15:28
tekteen	emilsedgh: ok. I do not know. sorry :-(	15:28
emilsedgh	Jucato: what about bluetooth?	15:29
Jucato	that I don't know :)	15:29
dpreacher	what isthe preferred way of setting up broadcom 4311 rev 01 wifi with kubuntu? ndiswrapper or bcm43xx?	15:30
Jucato	!broadcom	15:31
ubotu	Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx	15:31
Jucato	dpreacher: ^^^^	15:31
dpreacher	!ubotu	15:32
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	15:32
dpreacher	aha	15:32
dpreacher	didn't know about that	15:32
dpreacher	Jucato: thank you. will ask bot next time	15:33
Jucato	lol :)	15:33
dpreacher	can it take a phrase with spaces?	15:33
Jucato	it actually depends on whether it has the factoid in its database	15:33
Jucato	(yes it can, depending on the factoid)	15:33
Jucato	it's not Google :)	15:34
dpreacher	who can contribute to the factoid?	15:34
BluesKaj	short subject lines are always best , basically one or 2 words, dpreacher	15:34
jpatrick	dpreacher: anyone	15:34
sarve	install firefox beta kubuntu	15:35
sarve	?	15:35
Jucato	well, anyone can contribute/suggest. but those get redirected to the ops channel	15:35
dpreacher	i noticed. n thankfully, no 2 million results in 0.02 seconds	15:35
bazhang	haha	15:35
Jucato	(and only a handful can add/edit)	15:35
Pici	Where we strike them down with extreme prejudice, er, or accept them, of course.	15:35
Jucato	or we laugh at them in private :D	15:35
dpreacher	u mean approve n enter submissions into actual db	15:35
* Jucato twiddles thumbs innocently		15:36
BluesKaj	pici or picky ? :)	15:36
dpreacher	:)	15:36
Jucato	yes. we don't automatically add anything and everything. that would be utter chaos :)	15:36
bazhang	wikipedibot!	15:36
dpreacher	spot the bot!	15:37
dpreacher	wikipedibot... is that for real?	15:38
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BluesKaj	this new opers browser seems pretty cool, however the xineplugin doesn't seem to work, altho it appears to be part of the pkg. I especially like the integrated chat options	15:39
BluesKaj	opera	15:39
PriceChild	./cs access #ubuntu list	15:39
beermatt	;-)	15:40
sourcemaker	How can I update amarok from the unsupported repository... and amarok anly... not more packages...?	15:40
DarkTan	is there anyone in here who can give me a hand?	15:41
trappist	sourcemaker: sudo apt-get install amarok - if you've got that repo set up right, it will upgrade amarok and any dependencies	15:41
vivek_	how to enhance the audio quality....the quality was better when i was using Windows XP SP2	15:41
jpatrick	!ask \| DarkTan	15:41
ubotu	DarkTan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	15:41
sourcemaker	trappist: but when I settup the repository right... it will also update all unsupported software packages available... not just my amarok	15:42
DarkTan	ok, kubuntu was reccomended to be as a good choice for my first linux os, i have a IMB Netfinity server that i run as a normal desktop with a 5 HDD scsi array, i can't get the DVD to load on boot tho	15:42
trappist	sourcemaker: setting up the repository won't update any packages.	15:42
DarkTan	anyone know what i need to do to boot it?	15:42
trappist	DarkTan: it's probably a bios setting	15:42
sourcemaker	trappist: all right	15:43
DarkTan	well i can boot my windows XP disk, but not the kubuntu disk	15:43
trappist	DarkTan: oh, that sounds like a bad burn, then	15:43
=== dos_ is now known as _dos_
trappist	how did you burn the cd?	15:43
vivek_	how to enhance the audio quality....the quality was better when i was using Windows XP SP2	15:44
=== _dos_ is now known as _dos
DarkTan	i don't know, i checked that too, i can load the disk under windows and access the root of the disk, the folders and the other lopen source on it	15:44
=== _dos is now known as _dos_
dpreacher	DarkTan: checked the md5 of the image?	15:44
trappist	vivek_: what audio, in what app, and what sound card do you have	15:44
DarkTan	i used Acohol 120 to burn it	15:44
DarkTan	md5?	15:44
dpreacher	!md5	15:44
ubotu	To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	15:44
dpreacher	DarkTan: take a look	15:45
vivek_	trappist: In windows i was using Vinyl Audio Deck and mediamonkey.....in Kubuntu i use Amarok	15:45
Xcell	Mornin.	15:46
dpreacher	if you copy disc to disc and want to verify the md5. can you do it without storing an image on hard disc	15:46
Dr_willis	'burn at once' is a decent free tool under windows to burn iso image files.	15:49
stdin	dpreacher: you only need to store the md5sum on the disk, then check the md5sum of the burnt disk against the one in the file	15:49
Dr_willis	Not sure if it can check md5sums - that would be a nice feature. I do recall a md5sum tool for windows that put 'check sum' on the context menu.	15:49
usuario	wonder fulll love	15:49
DT	i have the iso on the HDD from when i d/l it so that's not a problem	15:49
DT	it spat out a pile of god only knows what and it beeping at me	15:50
BluesKaj	imgburn is another free image file burning app	15:50
BluesKaj	in windows	15:50
bazhang	isorecorder2 is okay as well	15:50
dpreacher	stdin: hmm...reminds me of fedora's test media option. is it there on kubuntu disk?	15:51
Dr_willis	The freeones are often MUCH better then the comercial ones.. Heh.	15:51
dpreacher	infrarecorder	15:51
Dr_willis	dpreacher, i dont recall seeing such an option. It would be nice..	15:51
dpreacher	works from pen drive/usb drive	15:51
Dr_willis	but perhaps i overlooked it.	15:51
stdin	dpreacher: yeah, it's one of the options at boot on the disk	15:51
stdin	it's either the last one, or one before last	15:52
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DT	hmm md5sum seems to have frozen under DOS	15:53
philipp_	wie kann ich die Felstplatte /mnt/hda1 von lese auf schreib-lesezugriff ummounten?	15:53
DT	interesting	15:53
jpatrick	!de \| philipp_	15:53
ubotu	philipp_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	15:53
=== philipp_ is now known as hufi
DT	here's what i get: http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/RollingD34th/md5sum.jpg	15:53
DT	oh wait, i just changed	15:53
dpreacher	hmm..that's ok. i was wondering if i'd to finally compel myself to learn some commands to verify an md5 of a disk manually. like what if the lug wants to distribute kubuntu cd's and we could preferably test the media's md5 before handing out copies.	15:53
dos	!pl \| dos	15:53
DT	failed open or read when trying the md5sum on the iso file	15:54
hufi	how i can remount a harddisk from reat to write reade mode?	15:54
jussi01	!md5 \| dpreacher	15:54
ubotu	dpreacher: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	15:54
DT	that dosen't make sense tho	15:54
=== alex_ is now known as Selfarian
DT	acohol 120 and daemon tools could load the iso to a virutal drive	15:55
DT	i can view the burnd files on the DVD too	15:55
=== hufi is now known as _hufi_
dpreacher	jussi01: i just queries md5 already. and i had the answer from people here before. i just wrote an example situation. but thanks for being so generous :D	15:55
jussi01	:)'	15:55
kye	Im having a little issue with my compiz.. i have to move the mouse all the way tp the top in order to see mey borders then all the way back down to see my taskbar any ideas? I have also tried changing my res but that doesnt have any effect at all?	15:56
_hufi_	how i can remount a harddisk from reat only mode to read and write mode?	15:56
xbehave_	Is there a cpu-z equivelent for linux?	15:56
Jucato	xbehave_: try KInfoCenter	15:57
Pici	sudo lshw also shows a lot of information that you probably dont actually want.	15:58
* genii sips a coffee		15:59
Dr_willis	_hufi_, mount has a remount option, check the mount man pages. IF the disk was read/write , and suddnely became read only. The system may of detected an errior on the disk and forced it to be read only - untill it can get checked.	15:59
Sanne	xbehave_: this might also help: cat /proc/cpuinfo	15:59
DT	dpreacher, I can't PM	15:59
Jucato	hello genii :)	15:59
genii	Hi Jucato :)	16:00
Jucato	Sanne, xbehave_: cat /proc/meminfo (for RAM) too	16:00
* genii puts a pot of coffee on		16:00
Sanne	nice one, Jucato, didn't know that, thanks :)	16:00
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* BluesKaj passes coffee and tea around to all who imbibe :)		16:01
dpreacher	DT: whats the windows xp theme that you used in that photobucket screenshot?	16:01
* Dr_willis gets hypped up on sugar and caffine and starts bouncing around the channel.		16:01
Sanne	:)	16:01
Dr_willis	:) - but now i gotta run.. bbl.	16:01
BluesKaj	mornin' genii, Jucato, Dr_willis	16:01
BluesKaj	& jpatrick	16:02
genii	BluesKaj: Thanks :)	16:02
jpatrick	BluesKaj: pardon?	16:02
BluesKaj	'mornin'	16:02
Jucato	hi BluesKaj	16:02
jpatrick	afternoon BluesKaj	16:02
BluesKaj	:)	16:03
dpreacher	night	16:03
* genii sips		16:03
xbehave_	Jucato: cat /proc/meminfo only gives my usage info i need to know what ram to replace it with	16:05
Jucato	oh	16:05
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Jucato	xbehave_: you can use cpu-z in wine... I tried it before. not sure how reliable that would be though...	16:06
xbehave_	ahh good idea thx	16:07
bazhang	xbehave_: how old is the computer? less than two years old? more?	16:07
xbehave_	dont know its a laptop, id guess around two years	16:07
bazhang	ddr2 667 then xbehave--why not just crack it open and look?	16:08
DarkTan_	hmmm....i wonder if this will do anything	16:08
* DarkTan_ unplugs other CD drive		16:08
xbehave_	i did but it had some korean make on and i couldnt make out any details	16:09
bazhang	xbehave_: less than two years should be the ddr2 667, perhaps slightly slower though	16:10
vivek	how to configure Gmail in Kontact??	16:14
Selfarian	hi there.	16:16
Selfarian	I have following problem: i want to download a file and it doesnt work :-()	16:16
tekteen	Selfarian: is there a error?	16:16
Selfarian	no	16:17
mdasilva	is there a way to mount a directory via ssh?	16:17
Selfarian	http://projects.blender.org/frs/download.php/268/blend2cs-0.2.5.tar.gz <--- this is the link	16:17
tekteen	!sshfs	16:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sshfs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	16:17
tekteen	!info sshfs	16:17
ubotu	sshfs: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7-2.1 (gutsy), package size 34 kB, installed size 120 kB	16:17
Pici	Selfarian: Doesn't work here either.	16:17
tekteen	mdasilva: u want sshfs	16:17
Pici	Its not jsut you.	16:17
Selfarian	hm.... damn it	16:18
Selfarian	ah ok... was the wrong link ... damn it... thank you ;)	16:20
mdasilva	how do you initialize a FS ssh mount in kubuntu?	16:20
tekteen	mdasilva: have u installed sshfs?	16:21
mdasilva	installing now	16:21
mdasilva	strange, i thought it would already be available	16:21
mdasilva	this is a ubuntu distro that i downloaded the kbuntu-desktop package	16:21
tekteen	mdasilva: do u need it to be in the file system or just the file manager	16:22
mdasilva	both	16:22
tekteen	mdasilva: ok	16:22
mdasilva	but if the file manager has it built in that would be useful as well	16:22
tekteen	mdasilva: in konqueror fish://user@host/ is ssh	16:22
mdasilva	i see	16:23
=== jpatrick_ is now known as jpatrick
mdasilva	neat, thanks tekteen	16:23
tekteen	np	16:23
mdasilva	i haven't touched kde in a long time	16:24
tekteen	mdasilva: ok	16:24
llutz	!ntfs-3g	16:32
ubotu	ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions	16:32
vivek	how to configure Gmail in Kmail	16:33
trappist	vivek: you'll set it up as a pop3 account. you can get the settings from the gmail site.	16:34
Jucato	http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/setting-up-gmail-in-kmailkontact/ looks good	16:35
FOAD	When I boot (cq log in to the graphical system), my USB drives won't show on the desktop, and they are not mounted either. Same problem when I ctrl-alt-backspace out of X and back again. Currently I unplug/plug a device, and then all devices show up on my desktop (but still unmounted). How can I ensure that 1) the devices show up on logging in and 2) get mounted straightaway? I don't want to put things in fstab, because not all devices may be present.	16:35
vivek	what to mention in the host field??	16:35
=== NetersLandreau_ is now known as NetersLandreau
FOAD	Anyone? Bueller?	16:46
BluesKaj	hmmm, what's the command for removing/uninstalling compiled apps ?	16:52
jpatrick	BluesKaj: make uninstall from the build dir	16:53
Jucato	make uninstall	16:53
Jucato	pft	16:53
Dragnslcr	Usually make uni	16:53
Dragnslcr	Blah	16:53
Pici	BluesKaj: also you may want to use checkinstall to make removing easier.	16:53
* jpatrick wins		16:53
Pici	!checkinstall \| BluesKaj	16:53
ubotu	BluesKaj: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!	16:53
Pici	In the future that is.	16:53
genii	BluesKaj: If there is no uninstall in the makefile, try instead make clean or make dist-clean	16:58
=== yerkorn is now known as YerKorn
BluesKaj	ok thx gents, appreciate it :)	16:59
FOAD	When I boot (cq log in to the graphical system), my USB drives won't show on the desktop, and they are not mounted either. Same problem when I ctrl-alt-backspace out of X and back again. Currently I unplug/plug a device, and then all devices show up on my desktop (but still unmounted). How can I ensure that 1) the devices show up on logging in and 2) get mounted straightaway? I don't want to put things in fstab, because not all devices may be present.	16:59
jhutchins_wk	FOAD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions	17:01
jhutchins_wk	FOAD: That's more for auto-mounting windows partitions, but since usb devices are usually FAT32 it should apply. Tells you how to set 'em up in fstab.	17:01
FOAD	jhutchins_wk: thanks for the pointer. Reading it now.	17:02
vivek	quit	17:04
vivek	!quit	17:04
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about quit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	17:04
vivek	!exit	17:04
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	17:04
FOAD	Try /quit.	17:04
FOAD	I helpeded!	17:04
kkathman	lol	17:04
FOAD	jhutchins_wk: sadly it's all about editing fstab, which is exactly what I am not after...	17:07
kkathman	FOAD I assume your USB drives are windows/FAT drives ?	17:10
kkathman	because if they are linux drives they WILL automatically mount	17:10
FOAD	No, ext3.	17:10
FOAD	kkathman: well, obviously you are wrong.	17:10
kkathman	then you are doing something wrong, because I have one that I mount everyday	17:10
FOAD	Because they WON'T.	17:11
kkathman	no Im not I	17:11
FOAD	Fine, I'm doing something.	17:11
FOAD	But what?	17:11
FOAD	This is a fresh 7.10 install.	17:11
FOAD	Of Kubuntu.	17:11
FOAD	Something wrong, that is.	17:11
kkathman	yes, because this one does not a problem whatsoever	17:11
FOAD	Ok, we've established that you have no problem.	17:11
kkathman	now windows ones will not	17:11
FOAD	However I do.	17:11
FOAD	And again, if I do unplug/plug a device once in the desktop, they all show up.	17:12
kkathman	now I will say that under ubuntu/kubuntu they auto-mount, but on my openSUSE system they do not - I have to manually issue a mount command	17:12
FOAD	Not mounted though.	17:13
kkathman	if you can see them using fdisk -l usually they show up as sdb or sdc or something	17:13
kkathman	then just issue the mount command on it	17:13
sourcemaker	are there any logs for the last kernel panic?	17:13
FOAD	Disk /dev/sdb: 1000.2 GB, 1000215724032 bytes	17:14<